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No wiki pages found.

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[little tree]

tools are bustyed

[orchid hearth]

is it a good idea to invest on ss ships

[sharp socket]

for w14+ yes its helpful though not strictly necessary

[orchid hearth]

[stark quiver]

it in fact is, unless you want your w14+ experience to be painful

[sharp socket]

the accessible sub fleet is u96, u37 and any other KMS sub

[sly robin]

These won't get reset every 3 days?

[eager mulch]

no

[sly robin]

Monthly now?

[eager mulch]

yes

[sly robin]

Okay ty

[eager mulch]

ok

[sharp socket]

u96 from medal shop, u37 from merit shop and u410 from perma mini event for example is probably serviceable

[orchid hearth]

im still at w13

[sharp socket]

ideally gold KMS sub for the 3rd one though

[orchid hearth]

but thanks! ill consider making one

[digital vault]

Shinano beach skin will comeback at the same time with new Musashi skin right?

[strong tartan]

Yes

[digital vault]

Time to spend my f2p saved gems

[digital vault]

And hoooly, W fearnot

[versed swift]

Is it worth to buy the battlepass?

[stark quiver]

if u like the skin

[versed swift]

Oh is the skin the only buy reason?

[coarse heron]

...battlepass?

[sharp socket]

cruise pass

[coarse heron]

oh that yeah sure if you want
it's one of the better value things in the game

[inner delta]

skin is the main thing from it, everything else is a bonus

[versed swift]

I maxed ut out and i was wondering

[inner delta]

if you aren't going for the skin i kinda see no value since most of the other stuff you can just get from normally playing

and gem value is worse than just buying the 2x gem pack

[stark quiver]

essentially

[versed swift]

Ahh ok then, i don't even know who the skin is for😂 thanks guys

[coarse heron]

You get all this for $10 assuming you finish the Cruise Missions
effectively it's a skin and you get all that for free

[inner delta]

again, if you aren't going for the skin all those can just be gotten through normal play without paying 10$

[stark quiver]

ill say this, the only intriguing thing on that image is the dev bps,
and else youd get it for the skin

[inner delta]

not worth paying 10$ for extra 20 dev bp

that's barely anything

[stark quiver]

eh i know some people who giga minmax, but yea its as you say, not worth

[coarse heron]

it's not worth it from an objective standpoint yeah

but ultimately it's their money to spend

[stark quiver]

and the very nice things that com from it is the free UR bulin

[inner delta]

UR bulin is from the free one

[stark quiver]

yea

thats what i meant

[coarse heron]

maybe if the PR prints were for latest season it'd be more compelling
right now they're for PR5

[plain saffron]

Uhh wut

[slow fox]

no one pinged me its toolkit + iph

[topaz smelt]

Slow bot, your API needs correcting

[slow fox]

What is API? Am Provedhydraul Icrudder?

[topaz smelt]

Accelerated PDF Index

[woeful spade]

how does lecture hall work? (new acc bought lvl70 packge )

[topaz smelt]

use lv100+ ships -> get exp books

you can just completely ignore it until its relevant

[mint flint]

xp gained by level 100+ ships turns into proficiency, proficiency -> xp books

[woeful spade]

thanks , got it

[coarse heron]

The ? in top right on the UI also tells you more, but in a more confusing manner

[woeful spade]

btw can i use taihou with this unit or no?

[coarse heron]

Taihou is a decent enough beginner CV. Nothing special but not terrible.

[woeful spade]

who should i replace if i wanna use her

[coarse heron]

Saratoga gets a lot better once you retrofit her, so you could replace Saratoga for now (but keep working on her)

and Unicorn is one of the strongest CVs in the game once retrofitted so keep her

[woeful spade]

noted! , thanks

[remote yarrow]

I don't see any reaason to use Taihou right now when Saratoga and Uni are already leveled just retrofit them, better save your Bulins for a better candidate like Enterprise and/or Hood

If you wanna know who you should retro first
Uni > Portland > Laffey > Sara

If you are in Little Enterprise server you can get Enterprise from medal shop

[woeful spade]

well i just wanna use her coz i like her design

[topaz smelt]

you can use whatever you like, you can take just about anything thru most of the game

[remote yarrow]

Yeah if you wanna use her go ahead, I'm just giving a suggestion though do not replace Unicorn

[woeful spade]

noted! ,thanks

also who should i focus on tactical first

[keen sable]

uni + everyone else except portland

[coarse heron]

You can level Portland’s blue skill if you want but it’s super low priority and you’ll be replacing her medium term anyway

under no circumstances waste any books on Portland's red skill

[inner delta]

doing blue one is also waste

[coarse heron]

wait why did I said blue when it's clearly yellow

[inner delta]

just dont need to lv any portland skill

[atomic abyss]

They're all just meh yeah

Port is red and yellow iirc

Buff FP with Indy and Defence Order iirc

[woeful spade]

noted

[plain saffron]

Are there maint today?

[coarse heron]

Yes

[keen sable]

don't forget to collect your zuihou

[eternal basalt]

Every thursday in September

[plain saffron]

Fuck

[eternal basalt]

The wiki just didn't update stuff

[coarse heron]

I;ve been bamboozled

[keen sable]

should be safe to change it to something like current season?

[atomic abyss]

Yeah

Except for medal shop ofc

[eternal basalt]

It usually takes a while for them to update to current season (PR2 XP. packs lasted very long)

[plain saffron]

Rip mask aux skin

[stark quiver]

Oh piss

[plain saffron]

I'm at 3/7

[stark quiver]

fuck forgot to claim my shit

[eternal basalt]

Of what, Zuihou has no mask

[keen sable]

easy. you know you want to cancel those amagii books

[eternal basalt]

It's not 2 Oct

[pulsar hornet]

Event is 3 weeks long right?

[eternal basalt]

Week 2 today

[shell willow]

even on 3/7 cant you just rush all tasks because they are unlocked?

[plain saffron]

Prelude event

[eternal basalt]

3/7

[keen sable]

mask says until 10/2

[plain saffron]

Wait does that stays until next week
I'm saved

[eternal basalt]

Till 10/2

[sweet merlin]

Why is there maint today?

[plain saffron]

More skins

[shell willow]

to add skins

[robust onyx]

Adding skins

[stark quiver]

Adding skins

[eternal basalt]

Sirius emoji

[stark quiver]

oh yea the new skins

[sweet merlin]

...

[plain saffron]

Appending skins list

[stark quiver]

Don’t we get apologems

[sweet merlin]

Time to grind gems it seems

[plain saffron]

How do you grind gems

[shell willow]

irl

[stark quiver]

to hell with the skins, I get my free 10 dock space

[sweet merlin]

I have 4 chapters woth of backlog in gems

[stark quiver]

Ah the new gens, I got all my gems, so it’s 💳 for the rest of my career

[eternal basalt]

Or a whole lot of fuck ups

[zenith locust]

How good is this?

[stark quiver]

secretly praying manjuu messes up

[stark quiver]

It’s good

[robust onyx]

Comparable to Ryusei

[zenith locust]

Should I equip it to enterprise?

[stark quiver]

It’s a sidegrade to ryuusei and saiun Kai in terms of timing

[stark quiver]

Depends what you are gonna do with her

[sweet merlin]

Is the hellcat good?

[shell willow]

its converging, so if you are bossing, sure

[zenith locust]

Ok thx

[stark quiver]

Well it it’s dexeby

[sweet merlin]

Wdym

[stark quiver]

wtf, well its decent
My English isn’t it today

It’s worse than the flapjack and its side grades, but it’s a good placeholder

[coarse heron]

Hellcat is worth doing +10 if that’s what you mean

[sweet merlin]

Any one better than the flapjack

[coarse heron]

Not that I know of

[sweet merlin]

Tenerai vs wyern: which is more expensive?

[woeful spade]

what time mainte today?

[coarse heron]

Technically the Tenrai is free

[atomic abyss]

Technically you can't compare them
Tenrai is from research, wyverns are from gear lab

They're expensive in different ways

Well at least till tenrai enters the gear lab

[coarse heron]

Tenrai costs time, Wyvern costs loads of money

[atomic abyss]

Both do tbh

Tenrai costs either protocores or loads of plates and time and rng

[plain saffron]

Usual time 0000 utc-7

[sweet merlin]

Tenerai also Involves me grinding those core data

Does amagi have xfleet effect?

[atomic abyss]

Not code data
Protocore

Yes she has a cross fleet

[keen sable]

wyvern more expensive because you can make like 20 of them but only 5 or 6 tenrai

[coarse heron]

Well if you somehow had the foresight to never spend any of your free protocores the Tenrai is technically free

[sweet merlin]

What is the effect

[vale spindle]

barrage 15s in or something, nothing much

[atomic abyss]

As with almost every other crossfleet, it's just a barrage

[sweet delta]

Did you try reading #event-faq

Or wiki or game

[shell willow]

or datamine

[light flax]

So um why is there server maintenance

[keen sable]

cash grab new skins

[sweet merlin]

Manjuu getting greedy with skins

[light flax]

Love ru collab?

[gaunt dagger]

does anyone know when the preliminaries for the ratings will be released for event ships?

[coarse heron]

remove old events, new skins

[keen sable]

also need to take zuihou away

[light flax]

Ohh i see

[coarse heron]

The usual reasons

[sweet merlin]

When the testers gt ships with lcl 10 skills

[keen sable]

technically zuihou will end on it's own. events have never needed maintenance to end.

[sweet merlin]

Wait the event is ending already

[coarse heron]

#game-news message

[eternal basalt]

End november

[coarse heron]

Also Taco secretary story

[eternal basalt]

Doesn't need maint for that

[gaunt dagger]

ah ok

also whta ways r there to get skill books

[eternal basalt]

2 more weeks

[gaunt dagger]

im running really low on support ones

[sweet merlin]

Grind raids

[shell willow]

2 more weeks of useless ryusei 😩

[gaunt dagger]

what raids?

[eternal basalt]

Dailies

[keen sable]

sell your third and fourth slot

[gaunt dagger]

oh yeah im already doing that

[keen sable]

get lots of metas

[gaunt dagger]

i dont have those tho. I just recently added 6 new ships that all need to have skill levled

im so confused at how useless defense books are tho. Like why is DEFENSE order a support

[sweet merlin]

Ugh... I have finished opsi... But i am still short of 10 mats to get the wyvern. How to get lab mats fast

[atomic abyss]

Not sure how that's useless but ok

[keen sable]

good thing it's useless

[gaunt dagger]

oh. im leveling it rn

[eternal basalt]

Do it again next month. No fast

[keen sable]

you can stop

[atomic abyss]

You're never finished with opsi tho
If you're fine with all the hiddens , abyssals, strongholds and the arbiters then waste your AP on safe mode

[gaunt dagger]

could you let me know which eugen, san diego, jean d’arc, saratoga, nelson, and amagicv skills are worth leveling?

[shell willow]

very easily obtainable elsewhere

[topaz smelt]

not eugen

[atomic abyss]

Eugen is shit so you can stop upgrading her
Everything else is worth maxing if you actually use them

[plain saffron]

Wdym

Nvm figured it out

[atomic abyss]

The only other way you're getting ryuuseis easily is research anyways

[gaunt dagger]

alright

[atomic abyss]

Unless you're grinding vdir archives for some reason

[plain saffron]

Does box drops them

[atomic abyss]

No

[gaunt dagger]

would swapping eugen with portland be a good choice for boss fleet or does it not matter

[topaz smelt]

i wouldnt bother with eugen

[keen sable]

nelson s1 and all of amagii are probably the highest priority

[plain saffron]

How raised are your eugen

[gaunt dagger]

alright

[gaunt dagger]

its level 90somethinf max limit break rn

[plain saffron]

Tbh at that point i would keep her

[gaunt dagger]

well im keeping regardless

im just wondering if portland would be better for boss fleet

[plain saffron]

Keep her boss, port mob

[gaunt dagger]

okay

ty mr cat with googly eyes

[keen sable]

swap them around so you have two tanks not one

[gaunt dagger]

wdym

[keen sable]

boss fleets don't get a lot of xp and eugen is at 90 right?

[gaunt dagger]

like 95

im just using for event d4 rn tho to level them up

so they can action function in boss fleet

[keen sable]

yeah so portland will reach 120 and eugen will still be L96 if you don't swap them periodically

[gaunt dagger]

also are drop rates actually worse when u have a lot of cubes?

[gaunt dagger]

well portland’s already 118 so

but its fine cuz im using eugen anyways

[gaunt dagger]

ik it’d make no sense but alot of people agree so idk

[keen sable]

i don't agree

[eternal basalt]

What weirdo's do you keep contact with?

[gaunt dagger]

just talking about youtube comments 😅

[atomic abyss]

It's confirmation bias

[gaunt dagger]

i see.

also are the cube commissions the best?

[eternal basalt]

Never unless you have 1k+

[gaunt dagger]

i mean like the commissions that give you cubes

[keen sable]

they're fine

[wind hazel]

gem>cube>oil

[eternal basalt]

Yeah, take those

[gaunt dagger]

how about the speed up and the skill book ones?

[wind hazel]

skill book ones are probably lowest value

[livid vine]

It says attempts 0 is there a reward to claim? I don’t see where to tap to claim it

[shell willow]

its bugged

[plain saffron]

Unless they show spreadsheet full of data don't believe too easily

[eternal basalt]

chips>gem>cube>oil

[gaunt dagger]

i mean i agree with it considering my experience with drawing so far but confirmation bias and also maybe just dumb luck

also ty yall for the consistent fast support

[plain saffron]

It sounds so painful to implement

[gaunt dagger]

lol thats true

[coarse heron]

Japanese Bogdanoff be like “he’s got cubes nerf his drop rate”

[gaunt dagger]

it makes sense from a dev perspective

[coarse heron]

wtf no it doesn’t

[eternal basalt]

~~2k cubes, never UR pity ~~

[slow fox]

18k cubes, I lose ships when rolling

[topaz smelt]

200 cubes, always pity

[remote yarrow]

Why would it make sense? Its not like AL's main income is from people buying cubes and coins for pulls

[atomic abyss]

after the gbf incident way back then, devs can't really scam players out of drop rates

[fervent hearth]

Imagine doing 600 pulls and not get the ship u want rates where

[eternal basalt]

Perma banner that can happen

[scenic mesa]

Should I pick Kazagumo or Tashkent? I'm building Nakhimov rn

[atomic abyss]

depends, do you have soyuz or voroshilov?

[humble perch]

So this technically means the -1 plane actually doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

(Amagi CV)

[atomic abyss]

the efficiency "sum" is rather misleading all things considered
but yes, the -1 does not really matter

[topaz smelt]

for the most part no

just more overkilling in mobs is about it

[cobalt rapids]

gumo if u dont have her

[topaz smelt]

shit theres maint?

[humble perch]

Has Amagi CV power crept anything notable? Has she found a niche?

[topaz smelt]

rip 400 oil comm

[atomic abyss]

she will likely replace hakuryuu in impla haku nano comps

[shell willow]

200 oil comm*

[vale spindle]

amagi powercrept every single not rainbow damage oriented cv, some of which could be considered pretty notable

[topaz smelt]

we just sync to mog from now on

[pseudo stream]

me who started trying to get hakuryuu as soon as i got amagi...

[topaz smelt]

You'll still prob want haku

[humble perch]

still useful to have haku for opsi if you need good backline

[atomic abyss]

unless you have every other UR CV in the game, you will still definitely find use for haku

even if you DO have every other UR CV - haku will still find use

[topaz smelt]

Any update on amagi fixes?

[pseudo stream]

yeah, doubles with leveling amagi and I just got 150 bp from catchup for her

[remote yarrow]

What is there to fix? I'm curious

[humble perch]

I have sovetsky, kron, and amagi cv unbuilt currently, sounds like amagi is getting those UR bulins

[eternal basalt]

Eeeeh, Amagi no bp

[woeful spade]

is there a guide of what first (prio) UR u should get?

[topaz smelt]

Distance buff is broken

[remote yarrow]

I see

[boreal wagon]

i think the latest patch might have fixed it but i didnt dig deep enough

[remote yarrow]

From where? Permanent Pity? Most likely Shinano

[topaz smelt]

I'll prob check in the morning. forgot to check and crawled into bed

[atomic abyss]

to be clear - its not that haku is worse than nano - usually the opposite

[woeful spade]

tnx , what about for events? do they rerun?

[atomic abyss]

it's more that nano benefits from amagi more

[remote yarrow]

Most events eventually rerun after 2 years or so, after that it takes like a year before they get added to permanent pools

[pseudo stream]

maint. notes don't mention anything about it

[woeful spade]

damn too long haha

[thin haven]

I hope for Guam

[boreal wagon]

maint notes almost never mention most bugs being fixed (especially for EN)

[coarse heron]

Even Japan notes don’t mention which bugs

[topaz smelt]

Bugs don't exist

[boreal wagon]

JP sometimes does but also rather rarely

[remote yarrow]

Right now you should try to get Amagi and eventually MLB her (save 4 UR Bulins before doing so)

[coarse heron]

It has to be a pretty major big for them to mention it doesn’t it

[woeful spade]

how often they do event gacha the (200 pity)

[thin haven]

Next UR is Yamato

[plain saffron]

Huh are they getting rid of scrolling boss name

[boreal wagon]

probably, they did mention a lot of UI optimisations are coming

[topaz smelt]

You mean breaking them again?

[coarse heron]

It’ll scroll faster instead

[atomic abyss]

Ah, where did you get that information from

[ember totem]

We're already in maintenance shitposting mode?

[topaz smelt]

When are we not in shit posting mode

[plain saffron]

It'll not scroll but overlap with level and go beyond the HP bar instead for EN

[eternal basalt]

Still sucks. Hope they fixed breakibg the old

[boreal wagon]

im sorry the game isnt made for you

[topaz smelt]

Can't wait for text to go off screen

[remote yarrow]

All UR events have pity, we get 4 new UR events every year and about 3~4 Reruns

[plain saffron]

Well not just him when ALL skill names are broken on ALL theme

[boreal wagon]

i meant them disliking the new ui but yes

[plain saffron]

Skill activation
Nion damage con

[woeful spade]

thanks

[thin haven]

They should add a new game model kinda tired of the same thing over again.

[remote yarrow]

#game-feedback

[eternal basalt]

They failed last time.

[topaz smelt]

and the time before that

[plain saffron]

I read that as breaking old UI, not disliking new UI but

[faint cloud]

Amagi's bug fixed now

[eternal basalt]

I do dislike the new UI

[plain saffron]

6 emoji huh

[ember totem]

Amagi had a bug?

[humble perch]

If the boss doesn't move too much, we now have 3 UR IJN carriers. 🤔

[eternal basalt]

~~Better than skin ~~

[remote yarrow]

Riceist said distance buff is/was bugged

[ember totem]

Oh I see

[scenic mesa]

I have Soyuz

[atomic abyss]

Definitely kazagumo

[scenic mesa]

No need for Tashkent? Thanks

[eternal basalt]

Tashkent is pretty sweet with her aug

[cobalt rapids]

not sweeter than having kazagumo

u can doubt me but kaza is the best vang ara
while tash is a good dmg dd but outside of being an activator for nahki ( and even then shes not the best one ) she doesnt do anything special outside of that that other ships dont do better

[late flame]

i'll ignore trashkent until she astarts appearing in meta fleets kek

[topaz smelt]

I can prob make that happen

[raven marsh]

is there a resource available for regularly updated meta fleets + gear for opsi, i think i can only find tierlists for individual ships

[topaz smelt]

Opsi fleets don't really change once you get one that works. Meta fights no

[thin haven]

Bro l got Amagi(CV) in my other alts and my main account got nothing😭

[raven marsh]

I guess since I'm not at the meta yet in terms of ships or gear, something like that could be useful for my prioritization

[sharp socket]

for opsi if it works it works, and theres always failsafe if you dont clear stuff like leaving stronghold to heal

[remote yarrow]

If you don't have most or many options there's no real reason to give you a list of comps to use, better to ask recommendations based on your dock for the content you are trying to do/beat

[raven marsh]

oh that's totally fair, I was just wondering why in AL i often see tierlists for individual ships when in other gachas there are often resources for not only best units but also their best teams (just out of curiosity, I know AL is a different game and may not be comparable)

[cobalt rapids]

because teams change based on content

theres no endgame catch-all team

[sleek spade]

what's the new update about?

[cobalt rapids]

skins batch 2

[sleek spade]

just cosmetic event?

[atomic abyss]

more skins

[cobalt rapids]

2nd batch of skins and a gear skin mini event

[sleek spade]

I see. ty

[atomic abyss]

#game-news message

like, patch notes exist for a reason

[sleek spade]

btw isn't there like 2 more SR events b4 musashi?

[cobalt rapids]

roma and brunhilde yes, if it follows the order

[remote yarrow]

And in some other games, like BA for example, there's weakness/strenght systems tied to certain units, where in AL you gear up your ships depending on the content you are trying to beat rather than them being tied to certain comp or content

[sleek spade]

ah so it'll be in November then

[raven marsh]

so I guess the only way newer players can learn about the best teams for each content is just by posting their docks here and asking every time? I guess if it works it works

[cobalt rapids]

don't know 🔮

[atomic abyss]

but we have a collab

[sleek spade]

o I forgot abt that too lol

[atomic abyss]

so it's not as straightforward as it seems

[sleek spade]

is Roma event worth rolling or just collection?

[plain saffron]

You could try asking about what each ship does and try using that knowledge to make your team if you want

[cobalt rapids]

that is one approach yes, the other is to learn about team building and ships role, then use the various tierlists as reference point for strengths then study the content and its requirements and make the team urself

[remote yarrow]

There's a learning curve, a year ago I knew dog water about team comps, but I slowly learned by looking at what people recommended and taking notes on which ships fit certain content

I still have stuff to learn but I know way more about the game than I did back then

[raven marsh]

I mean fair, if the playerbase is small-ish then maybe there is not enough manpower to maintain a resource for every content

[remote yarrow]

You can lurk in here or in threads when people ask for help and try to learn from there

[raven marsh]

Like even the slaimuda tierlist has max 2 sentences for each ship

[remote yarrow]

Well yeah because like you said, the community isn't as big as other games and most guides and tierlist are community driven

[cobalt rapids]

well that plus the fact that the game is easy and theres alot of flexibility that goes into teambuilding

some1 recommending a best team for X content will just invite controversy

[plain saffron]

I recommend every best team have Saratoga

[ember totem]

joining a guild may help make you less lonely in your journey too totally not a guild advertisement

[plain saffron]

Mod ban pls

[raven marsh]

idk, memes aside isn't there like a calculated most optimized team for X content or is this game that flexible where its super close regardless of who you choose

[remote yarrow]

outside of opsi comps not really and even then you got some sort of flexibility

[plain saffron]

Usually people test the specific teams againts specific boss

[atomic abyss]

rather than fixed teams
you have fixed foles

and you usually have multiple ships that fulfill said fixed roles

some ships can even fill multiple roles

[raven marsh]

hmm.. then a resource for ship roles would be super useful right

[plain saffron]

Unless it's META/CM fight where you look at boss gimmick instead

[ember totem]

buy Unicorn from Guild Shop and you got parts of most optimized late game mob team sorted out

[remote yarrow]

This doesn't have every ship in the game, but gives good examples https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

[ember totem]

i believe sam's website does have a ship roles thing?

[remote yarrow]

Above you

[plain saffron]

Like even for roles sometimes you ditch them for more cursed things for minmax

[raven marsh]

Oh sweet nice

[ember totem]

cursed things like saratoga

[plain saffron]

I'll get rid of the curse

[cobalt rapids]

most optimized teams also vary depending on ur investments ( tech, oath, +13 gear ) so while pure theoretical teams could be done they always need to be adapted to practical use which means rating close enough stuff as sidegrades instead of BiS
well there are teams like that that get pushed for specific hard content like showdown oneshots here in this channel if ure interested in that but their replicability always varies
theres also the /w15 guide which includes the best teams for the hardest campaign stage

[raven marsh]

Damn I should start lurking here more

[deft wraith]

I don't know what Equipment is the best for Peter Strasser? Or for Weser.

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment check this guide

[deft wraith]

Thank you

[polar lion]

So how to get JunyouM and HiyouM?

[cobalt rapids]

cruise pass metas have nto rerun yet

[polar lion]

When does cruise pass ships rerun usually?

[cobalt rapids]

they haven't yet

[boreal wagon]

they have never rerun so we dont know we just know they will eventually

[cobalt rapids]

jp strim did say cruise pass rerun is in plan but as for when its 🔮

[boreal wagon]

we dont even know how they will rerun

[polar lion]

[cobalt rapids]

just sell 2 battle passes at the same time

[eternal basalt]

Prob shop, but that's speculatiion

[deft wraith]

I'm out of wisdom cube

It's hard to get news ships.

[faint cloud]

Actually they mentioned it 3(4?) times since last year's cn anniv, already 1.5 years
cope

[eternal basalt]

Since this anni, not last

[plain saffron]

Do they

[faint cloud]

i checked, they did mentioned it last year
the seconed one (

[ebon verge]

im trying to build a w15 fleet can someone help me rate this

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4RgBjBWSBoDMkAcE4BZbrQTlgNjQCZ1s4jpU00AiAdgBMBDF1mjAXTmARxwkKIiCQdFLF8ktGDqCSZSAihFajFg2ZN26LuDCoVcMElQYwYQf3yGZg42VWamm7R13g%2BEBaTt10hoik0BEo0ZFNHVjZObiVYCGD0JWIiQIlCNAy4a2o4egYAI3VmV24VQl4jOhFiZGx0m3EMGrhIqK1OLjB3YCJPaBSiU0wSdLkm21z85kKSmJ4IJH5EJENMMDI8C2IJ2SnGDSjS4HR%2BtFJ6jAGFfF3RBNa8tXbXdxU6CA%2Bq-2k-ALqHhsyLwHE8nNEdNxUAMlEZMA8EKkyIEsjlsg9HOCOpDwJ9IL8fkYcMlvo0yMhDJFNHMdF0ehBdAzuAy3nibH8Cf8NtIJk1VMgWBAIbp3uZzh9TDJLkNuXDvKD6AKmEKWMd3otxRBJX4HjL5TyFc8Vdi3EYeigBMRoCSKCSkF5gmBDFRHor2ibuBbTLbddaEZBgU6whinshDsLuDgJVArTa-Y6HYgg3AXfzw6rOuQ3ABCCAAOk%2B2YApmAAGaLOg4IA

[deft wraith]

The server is down since when it's gonna open again?.

[atomic abyss]

down for 1.5h, will open in about 4.5h

[deft wraith]

Awh that's too long. But alright. I guess I have to wait.

[cobalt rapids]

except kear in mob and yk2 skyraider its fine
u may also want to replace blackshells for radars
and bulge aegir

[ebon verge]

would it be better using a 2nd healer (zuiho) over kearsarge?

[crimson glacier]

imo kear kinda just sucks in w15

[woeful spade]

do they give compen when mainte? (1st mainte for me)

[atomic abyss]

coins and oil

[ebon verge]

i dont have aquila so zuiho should be fine?

[atomic abyss]

well lacking aquila, volga would be better

but if you lack both, zuihou ye

[sleek spade]

is Zuihou cope?

Im kinda hesitant to level her skills and such but I also don't have Aquilla and Volga

[atomic abyss]

not at all

[forest palm]

Zuihou is just +2 hit imo

[wet prairie]

Anything new that they’re adding outside of cosmetics?

[atomic abyss]

takao memory is the only other thing really

[light flax]

Hopefully i get alot of oil and coins

[willow dock]

How to get lots of golden plates?

[atomic abyss]

operation siren

[inland shoal]

Also 20 per week from guild shop

[willow dock]

Let me rephrase

On average, how long does it take to 13+ UR gear?

[inland shoal]

I think expected is somewhere from 2 to 4 montsh

[willow dock]

Man.

[lofty zodiac]

Like 3 click long?

[storm heron]

mainly waiting for the gear itself

[lofty zodiac]

[storm heron]

is it normal to get only blue gear prints and some gold from the 1h rigging analysis?

[crimson glacier]

yes

[frank pulsar]

even if its 2-4 months, you get to +13 like 2 or 3 of them since you get different types of plates

it not that bad, and ur gear just expensive anyway
it like 3x cost to +13 compared to gold gear

[thin haven]

What's the best bulid for Shinano?

[atomic abyss]

depends on where you're using her

[thin haven]

Could l use her as a mob fleet?

[atomic abyss]

if it's for opsi bosses, tb/db/tb
campaign fighter/db/tb

for mobbing, flapjack, tenrai, wyvern would be ideal

[thin haven]

Alright ty!

[half plover]

is the first plygun good to +13 or should I leave it at +10?

[wind hazel]

focus on bb guns first

but yeah eventually you want a +13 for plymouth at least

[half plover]

so after 3x +13 champys I would want to +13 a 457 first?

[wind hazel]

if pushing w14 w15 yeah

[half plover]

ty, I still have no idea if upping a bf109g to +13 is valid since getting la9 would take forever in my case

[atomic abyss]

it's not like you'll have 6 LA-9s anytime soon

[half plover]

so it's gonna be fine to up 1-2 to +13

[rapid grail]

yep, even with La-9s some other CV would want those e.g. opsi mob fleet CV/Ls

[lament zodiac]

Is sub fleet worth investing? Granted i only have 1 ssr sub (the rest is sr) and didnt equip it with high end stuff, so the damage when they torpedo the enemy fleet is like very minimal

But do they like.. can tip the scale of the combat later?

[half plover]

They become like an accessory in w14 and w15

[lament zodiac]

Oh lol

[half plover]

they make your life easier

but forget about them for now

[lament zodiac]

Yeah w14 is still looong way for me

[atomic abyss]

what yuu said

as such, better to wait till you have the right subs

[sharp socket]

you can get a decent sub fleet with u96 from medal shop, u37 from merit shop and any other KMS sub, preferably gold rarity

[whole crypt]

La-9s are really slow so I'm not exactly convinced of the 6 La-9 loadout right now, 2lso needs carriers that don't flex in fighter slot

also gold plates die

in practice it's probably closer to 3-5 La-9s

[ebon verge]

do you need asw gear in w15 boss fleet?

[whole crypt]

no

[atomic abyss]

no for 15-3/4 mob only

[whole crypt]

yeh La-9 is realistically 3 at most on anti-heavy fleet and 4 for a Nakhimov medium setup

[woeful spade]

which is better get shinano as 1st UR or save pulls for upcoming new/rerun UR banner

[whole crypt]

looks like the initial estimates of 5 with Kearsarge is dead

[whole crypt]

don't pull perm URs

[woeful spade]

alrigjt

[whole crypt]

if you're done with Amagi just do 1 light daily, it still counts for the perm pity counter

[eager mulch]

[polar lion]

Prolly just gonna farm for 5 and get 6th from shop and then farm moar Plyguns till PR8 release

[lofty zodiac]

New coinable ship when...

[versed swift]

Is the event over?

[lofty zodiac]

Not even at the middle of it

[eternal basalt]

October, Tempesta

[atomic abyss]

2 more weeks

[eternal basalt]

Or Roma if rerun

[versed swift]

For what is the server maintenance?

[eternal basalt]

#game-news (dumb # )

[atomic abyss]

skins, #game-news message

[versed swift]

Thank you ♥️

[plain saffron]

6 or 8 tday

[eternal basalt]

6

[plain saffron]

thanks

[spring bolt]

||sirius new skin is so good||
they also fixed amagi skill 2 bug

[hollow gust]

That's a lot of damage for Amagi

[versed swift]

I want alsace so bad, do i really have to wait 2 years? Will be there no christmas event or soemthing?

[hollow gust]

Yep, no other way to get her

[atomic abyss]

yes, 2 years

[spring bolt]

devs is Chinese, Christmas means nothing to them
no other way

[atomic abyss]

events dont rerun for about 2 years, or slightly more

[eternal basalt]

x-mas is our black friday for cn, so yes, they care

[latent dagger]

When is main up?

[cobalt rapids]

in about 3 min

[eternal basalt]

(Unless extended)

[lament zodiac]

How long until maintenance over?

Nvm didnt see the text above

[eager mulch]

how long until maintenance is over? (I did see the texts above)

[atomic abyss]

over

[wind hazel]

is there any data on cat reroll chance on getting x or y talent?

[cobalt rapids]

not that i know

[wind hazel]

damn imma reroll a single cat to 2025 at this rate

[eager mulch]

90% of gamblers quit before they hit it big

[wind hazel]

im the 10% (trust)

[hollow gust]

Well fuck , that's a big difference

Haku who? Lmao

[whole crypt]

poggies

[polar lion]

Bench time

[wind hazel]

is this the 2nd setup?

[hollow gust]

Yeah , I can't afford the 1st setup yet

[whole crypt]

Shinano surprisingly low though

[wind hazel]

3rd +13 tenrai?

[hollow gust]

Nah shinano has the weakest db slot so she gets the +10

[whole crypt]

I tried last night with Amagi with s2 at lv5 and still managed a oneshot

oathed but not 200 yet

[hollow gust]

[silk helm]

do you think she is a must pull ?

[finite crag]

all urs are

[whole crypt]

[hollow gust]

All UR gatchas are

[cobalt rapids]

all gacha URs are must pulls for meta

[atomic abyss]

all limited URs are

[silk helm]

okok

[eager mulch]

+12 plane, bro fell off

[whole crypt]

Shinano's VIT is +10 because I'm out of plates

[whole crypt]

blame La-9

[polar lion]

What load time is that setup?

[eager mulch]

can i blame renhex instead?

[whole crypt]

sure

[cobalt rapids]

no

[hollow gust]

I only have enough for 1 la-9 rn, that included all my blank prints

[whole crypt]

as it turns out it's not even doing anything

but yeh I'm having reservations with La-9 now, at least you won't need more than 4

[wind hazel]

baited by shiny

[jaunty glade]

is this considired good for general? any reason why you wouldn't use 2 catapults?

[whole crypt]

can probably go back to PR5 after 4th La-9

[cobalt rapids]

theres no general setup, and beacon and manjuu are for timing

[wind hazel]

that setup is specific for current meta showdown

[hollow gust]

Catapults are used for 99% of the time , those gears would be pretty bad general setups

[whole crypt]

we were talking about 5 La-9s for Kearsarge setups but as it turns out now with Soyuz/Nakhimov there's just no reason to use more than 4

[eager mulch]

4 for the enty/kear/yt2 setup

[cobalt rapids]

i wanna se the med content that wants 5 +13 la-9

[polar lion]

Strength

[eager mulch]

W17 trust

[jaunty glade]

that augment is good for general?

[whole crypt]

even Strength I'd rather use Soyuz/Nakhimov with 3-4 of them

[hollow gust]

Augment is good

[spring bolt]

cope for 5 AD-1 setup

[hollow gust]

Sakura for heavy , nahkimov for medium , eagle for light

[whole crypt]

the only reason you'd take 5 is if you cope your light fleet for medium with plane swaps

[cobalt rapids]

if were talking opsi ill cope my sakura fleet for medium and light with no plane swaps

[whole crypt]

if anything I'm dropping light fleet because it has the least crossfleet and Temperance is sad

well unless we get a new rotation for CM the only thing that'll matter next is another med META with not shitty gimmicks

[cobalt rapids]

yea and new arbiter

[opaque gate]

i got another amagi, tf should i do with it

[polar lion]

Lb

[cobalt rapids]

limit break the original

[silk helm]

limit break

[whole crypt]

OS Pacific

[opaque gate]

my amagi is alr mlb

[eager mulch]

keep or kill it

[cobalt rapids]

keep her as trophy

[silk helm]

kill??

[spring bolt]

skin display

[eager mulch]

[opaque gate]

noooooooo

after pulling for amagi, should i still pull for watarase? ill just get disappointed if i get another amagi lol. or should i just save

[silk helm]

how many cubes do you have?

[opaque gate]

1 lol

[wind hazel]

lol

[spring bolt]

do you care about collection? if not forget about wata

[opaque gate]

can i still get watarase even without the event? if ever

[polar lion]

2 years

[spring bolt]

when event reruns, yes

[opaque gate]

i see, zamn shouldve just saved

[polar lion]

Wuts the tech we get from this event again?

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

well ig they are on wiki now aswell

[opaque gate]

hiei meta worth building?

[cobalt rapids]

building as in ?

[opaque gate]

lvling jp

[cobalt rapids]

not rly

[opaque gate]

thanks!

[soft dagger]

Is int rld affected by homing beacon?

[spring bolt]

ayase cl hit +1 on acquiring, wata cl hit +1 at lv120
rest are not important

[cobalt rapids]

amagi avi on lv120

[silk helm]

u can get hiei outside the gacha

[lone knoll]

Hi! is ayanami worth to raise?

[undone plover]

for future reference if u are still pulling event dont use UR bulins in case a situation like this happens

[eager mulch]

no

[cobalt rapids]

it is applied at the end yes if thats what u mean

[inland shoal]

Not really tbh

[eager mulch]

intercept rof?

[cobalt rapids]

oh intercept

[soft dagger]

For example, the interception timer has accelerated due to the reload buff, is what i meant

[cobalt rapids]

i thought u meant airstrike mb

reload buffs as in stuff that affects RLD do affect it but beacon is an %airstrike cd reduction so it doesnt

[soft dagger]

Thanks

[hollow gust]

Okay so yeah , Amagi will have a really good oneshot rate . I managed to kill even with mogador dying before last strike

[plain saffron]

How much dmg the bug fixes does

[eager mulch]

skill 2 dmg buff wasnt applying properlu

[whole crypt]

that part is RNG, it depends on whether you flush the last round which is what mogs is there to help but even if she was up it's not 100% reliable

[atomic abyss]

2 things
one, they changed the skill description to mention she only buffs torp/torp bomber/sub torp from sakura ships
two, they fixed the Increases this ship's DMG dealt to the enemy the further away they are from her (up to 18% more DMG). to work properly (it wasnt working at all)

[cobalt rapids]

sakura part was hotfixed patched before

[atomic abyss]

yes i know that

[hollow gust]

From my runs so far , as long as mogador lives my CVs are hitting all the torps

[plain saffron]

In terms of dmg, only distance one changed

The torp buff is text bug, nothing changed

[patent pivot]

zamn

[hollow gust]

Night before and today

[plain saffron]

But we got 200 gems so that's a win

Why is it getting lower

[undone plover]

how did ppl even find out that part was bugged

[hollow gust]

Left is the new one , mb

[plain saffron]

Test or mine

[stuck stirrup]

for some people, doing math is the game

[forest kiln]

Guys where can I get this!?

[eager mulch]

10 full courses

[plain saffron]

iron blood tech packs

[hollow gust]

Ironblood purple boxes

[forest kiln]

Really!?

[plain saffron]

Yes no cap

[hollow gust]

RNG isn't a 50k difference

Either way , substantial difference

[cobalt rapids]

could be rng yea

[hollow gust]

[plain saffron]

but important question did they fix the skill desc cut off

what nerf

[eager mulch]

it was a buff?

[patent pivot]

my procrastination to run the new set of amagi tests was actually a smart move since they actually fixed that

[plain saffron]

there's clearly a dmg increase

[eager mulch]

she does more the further away they are what are you smoking

[whole crypt]

"UR more broek than before ruins my game therefore is a nerf"

[plain saffron]

also we it's fixed to match the description so not a nerf/buff technically

[forest kiln]

I'm trying to get this one

[cobalt rapids]

good to have two of these in ur depot

[whole crypt]

it's literally fixing a broken portion that reduced her damage

[eager mulch]

i have one is my account bricked?

[hollow gust]

Tf happen

[forest kiln]

Bruhh

[eager mulch]

[plain saffron]

oh no how dare devs make her as strong as she should

[cobalt rapids]

rng

[whole crypt]

firstly inappropriate reaction pic
secondly do you even know what the patch did?

[hollow gust]

From your current messages , you are wearing the full makeup

[wind hazel]

did you craft the tier1 and 2 boxes as well?

[viscid swift]

before this patch Amagi's skill was basing the distance of her PLANE's from the enemy not the actual ship

therefore the damage increase based on her distance from the enemy was basically non functional

[forest kiln]

Ohh

[undone plover]

nothing changed about amagi
she was bugged and there was a text in her skill that was wrong
now she is not bugged and the text was corrected

[plain saffron]

her skill increase dmg based on her and enemy distance
more distance = more dmg
before: it use her plane and enemy distance, so lower distance than it should
after: it actually uses her distance

[wind hazel]

yeah craft them up to tier3, then open again, good luck

[hollow gust]

Clown aside , prefix CVs was doing around 28-30 bars, now I see them doing 35+ bars a strike

[whole crypt]

before today's fix it wasn't even buffing damage based on distance from target, which was fixed this patch so Amagi literally just bumped damage by up to 18%

[plain saffron]

technically it does, but low bcs plane is close to enemy

[eager mulch]

[hollow gust]

As long as mogador doesn't pull her suicide , it should be a pretty consistent oneshot

[forest kiln]

Good thing I grind this alot

[plain saffron]

please read right below it

[whole crypt]

the pic that does less damage was before fix

[eager mulch]

except he didnt, he just put the new pic first

[finite crag]

reading comprehension is not your strong suit im guessing

[left cedar]

idk how much its 28-30 bears, but for sure i cant handle 1 in 1x1, so i guess its ALOT

[undone plover]

should double check the screenshot
she does more

[wind hazel]

clown moment?

[hollow gust]

CVs feel a lot more impactful

[finite crag]

doubling down? very bold i like it

[atomic abyss]

sigh

[viscid swift]

anyway, what was your set up?

[plain saffron]

bro i'm begging you pls read

[whole crypt]

I can contextually understand what was being presented and grey also added a line after

[plain saffron]

i even SENT THE SCREENSHOT PLS

[hollow gust]

I gave nano a +10 tenrai , cause I'm broke

[plain saffron]

lmao

[whole crypt]

how about you pay more attention to what was being said

[viscid swift]

riceist said 17 CV reload yes?

[whole crypt]

16-17

[hollow gust]

Ricest used 16 but I prefer 17-18

[viscid swift]

time to adjust it for none oath then

[whole crypt]

I assume the timings are going to be roughly there regardless

it's mostly for the last strike anyway

[cobalt rapids]

not if ure trying to fit 3 cv in mog

[hollow gust]

You should also look at Nagami's SS

[wind hazel]

cheeky my saviour please ping me if you cook anything

[whole crypt]

if no oath is probably just adding another 10 RLD or something

[viscid swift]

maybe my timing was off or RNG said fu but I tried it today and it didn't get results

[wind hazel]

how far is your amagi

oh you exp book her

[hollow gust]

The first 2 strikes is against a stationary target so no need for mog , I prefer 17 cause it sync the torp hitting to the perfect time mog latches

[viscid swift]

she's 125 cause I get impatient, skills are 10/9/6

[hollow gust]

125 200 9/10/6

[cobalt rapids]

how did u get her 200 alr

[hollow gust]

I got her done last week lmao

[whole crypt]

200 is not hard

[eager mulch]

he played the game

[wind hazel]

he's filthy 2-1 spammer

[hollow gust]

It takes like 3 day to oath and 200

[whole crypt]

mine is just 134 because didn't bother with her for like 5 days

[cobalt rapids]

makes sense

[hollow gust]

Nah D3

[wind hazel]

close enough

[cobalt rapids]

[plain saffron]

they fix boss name cutoff but not the mob

[hollow gust]

I minmaxed her speed so she always MVP

[whole crypt]

I left Amagi in dorm for about 4-5 days before sending her to D3 so

[edgy steeple]

Hello, if i'm farming OPSI and everything is explored already do i just farm lv 6 secured areas repeatedly?

[eager mulch]

c5

[cobalt rapids]

c3 or c5

[whole crypt]

(was busy with Nagato META anyway)

[forest kiln]

My build for shinano

[hollow gust]

I oathed an hour after day 1 unfortunately 😭. The first day of grind sucked

[whole crypt]

yeh carriers suck you can't 1-1C

[hollow gust]

But day 2 and 3 were easy since post oath Amagi is fast asf

[cobalt rapids]

depends on timings but at the very least the idea is right if fighting heavy single target

[whole crypt]

it also took me like a day to oath Nagato META because maintenance got in the way

[noble tulip]

2 CV reload, pretty hard overkill

[torn latch]

getting double +13 rainbow torp aux worth it or not

[plain saffron]

what da hell

[whole crypt]

usually no

[hollow gust]

Tf happen to your Amagi damage

[forest kiln]

Anyway thanks for the help guyss

[noble tulip]

launches last, didn't get to hit the boss

[hollow gust]

Makes more sense

[viscid swift]

Not really seeing the overkill here

[hollow gust]

Well oath vs Unoathed

[wind hazel]

p2w game

[vale halo]

w8 what happened to amagi(cv)

[whole crypt]

time to start paying for the game cheeky

[cobalt rapids]

i dont think theres a consistent kill fleet with mamagi even

[hollow gust]

It was down to like 20 bars for me already before last airstrike

[cobalt rapids]

also isnt ur mog dying ?

[noble tulip]

My problem with mogador tank is dying tbf

[viscid swift]

nope, I bit the bullet and +13ed her auxes

[hollow gust]

Towel +13 fixes it 95% of the time

[cobalt rapids]

[hollow gust]

Towel is a good investment so it's worth +13 anyway

[left cedar]

isnt easy to say Ama², cuz type Amagi CV its totally out of chance way to giant text

[silk helm]

Can someone help with Opsi + what ships to raise next?

[eager mulch]

mamagii

[hollow gust]

Just say Amagi, ain't no one using the BC

[cobalt rapids]

ama ama

[noble tulip]

I guess I'll +13 towel and see how it goes

[left cedar]

seens like get the same if not bigger than Amagi CV

[plain saffron]

Amagi CV
Amagi
Magi
mamagii
ama ama
||Amogus||

[hollow gust]

My prefer setup is towel and goldburn

[noble tulip]

I'm using goldburn on kaza

I run rpg + towel on mogador

[hollow gust]

RPG isn't preferred

[vale halo]

w8 amagi got nerfed wheres the inc dmg base on the distance

[hollow gust]

Now

[viscid swift]

bruh

[eager mulch]

i better not get called a clown this time

no, she did not get nerfed, they fixed one of her skills that did not work properly

[hollow gust]

Ofc it's the EN moment comment u read first

[vale halo]

are you referring to me? cuz i just literally just saw it in news ingame and i dunno why they changed it

[hollow gust]

Her 18% distance buff wasn't working , they fixed it this patch , so she technically she got a 18% damage buff

[eager mulch]

its not a nerf, it applied the distance from the plane and not amagi herself, she should be doing more damage now

[cobalt rapids]

she got buffed instead

[plain saffron]

Before it use plane to enemy distance
Now it use amagi to enemy distance
Which means now it's more distance which means more dmg

[vale halo]

im kinda confuse why they did that

[eager mulch]

because it didnt work properly before

[keen sable]

i don't see anything in game...you mean the apologems email?

[vale halo]

w8 ive read the wrong skill lmao i though they remove it

[spring bolt]

clown proof: it was a bug and her rockets/bombs/torps get 1%-2% damage increase from skill 2, now it's fixed and she gets up to 18%

[vale halo]

am i dumbed??? i read all the skill description of From Plains Laid, Eternity Arrayed and i dont see the skill description says it use amagi to enemy distance???

[hollow gust]

That's a different problem

They forgot to add only ijn torps get buffed , not all

[keen sable]

yes. that's s2

[vale halo]

my god so the in game mail have incorrect message

[keen sable]

no it's correct

[hollow gust]

She has two problems , a skill description issue and a skill implementation problem

[vale halo]

still confusing ngl so in short there still skill description after mainte?

[hollow gust]

how is EN so bad at reading

[vale halo]

BRUH I TRIED LMAO

[finite crag]

did you

[keen sable]

maintenance is over and of course there is still a skill description?

[hushed dawn]

Anything I can improve on this comp that can help one shot Nagato META?

[frank pulsar]

tldr shit that was broken is fixed
she didnt lose any skills, she didnt gain any skills
descriptions are still there

[cobalt rapids]

why is musashi on autoloader

also u have no support for 3rd strike

[hollow gust]

The first problem is that her skill description is wrong , they fixed it and gave us gems for it

The 2nd problem is her skill wasn't working correctly, they fixed that

[hushed dawn]

Following a CN comp.

[vale halo]

okay so the description is different problem

[cobalt rapids]

idk what they are cooking

[reef flume]

W comp

[eager mulch]

skill description fix was for skill 1 right?

[spring bolt]

which CN comp, i will roast this guy

[hushed dawn]

Anything?

[frank pulsar]

they fixed that too
i said shit that was broken is fixed

[reef flume]

Ig to slow down slightly the rld of the 460mm

[keen sable]

~~i'm being ignored ~~

[hushed dawn]

Comp in question. ^

[eager mulch]

hello being ignored, im stage 4 amagi-chan brainrot

[keen sable]

yes there is absolutely nothing official in en about s2

[whole crypt]

well we have amagi now so

[cobalt rapids]

yea just use a support for ur 3rd strike like implac/mog/eldridge and remove sushi autoloader it does nothing but lose u dmg

[viscid swift]

no, here's what happened was
"From Plans Laid, Eternity Arrayed" had an error in the way it was worded in the game but was working as intended in the code, so they just fixed the description.

"From Advantage Seized, Victory Bequeathed" had the correct wording, but they coded it in a way that did not work as intended and basically nerfed her from her actual intended performance. So they fixed the coding, so now it does work as intended, and she's buffed compared to before this patch.

[hollow gust]

They forgot to add ijn to it , EN skill description said that it buffed all torpedo damage regardless of faction which was wrong , they basically added 1 word

[cobalt rapids]

cant believe theres a 10min convo about a skill description being wrong

[hushed dawn]

Who should I replace if I were to use Mogador?

[spring bolt]

nvm, this is probably JP, nothing i can do

[cobalt rapids]

ply or unzen

[hollow gust]

EN moment

[torn latch]

wait I thought Bismarck oath skin come today

[eager mulch]

26th

[hollow gust]

Next Thursday

[hasty night]

Why is Muashi's BiS gun the 410mm Kai instead of the rainbow 460mm?

[torn latch]

bruh

[cobalt rapids]

if ure using amagi or no bb then ply

[eager mulch]

becase rainbow 460 is slow

[frank pulsar]

how to know when mk35 torp is worth using

[keen sable]

it's not?

[torn latch]

very slow, unless you know what you are doing with timing

[vale halo]

ok now it make sense to me now cuz i dont remember the original skill description on amagi thats why i got confuse

[hollow gust]

Tf?

[cobalt rapids]

when boss is stationary during torp launches and the ship doesnt have the tight spread mod

[hollow gust]

No point of ply without a bb

[cobalt rapids]

yes it was who gets replaced grey smh

[wind hazel]

classic en moment

[cobalt rapids]

truly

[hollow gust]

[plain saffron]

where do i get that many helena

[eager mulch]

guild shop

[plain saffron]

all server have wrong one

[reef flume]

410mm kai is for general use, 460mm is for max damage but it's slow

[frank pulsar]

460 only used in niche setup
twin 410 for light and mobbing
izumo gun and daisen gun for med/heavy

[hollow gust]

~~Maybe they originally intended for her to buff everyone but figured it was too busted ~~

[eager mulch]

nyak too stronk

[viscid swift]

I has hoping she'd get used this fight

[reef flume]

If one doesn't play a specific comp or doesn't care about timing or sync, then it is not niche anymore

[eager mulch]

[cobalt rapids]

i hoped not, coz im not even halfway done with her

[spring bolt]

actually CN's was correct so we got 0 apolo gem

[hollow gust]

If you don't give a fuck about timing and syncing then you will use 410kai cause it's better

[keen sable]

only en is wrong. the cn datamine is clearly correct well maybe jp too but who cares about jp

[vale halo]

also i apologize for getting confused in the patch notes i tried to read and understand it its just confusing men dunno maybe cuz EN is not my 1st lang

[frank pulsar]

its slow as hell, you might not even get one salvo off in mobbing for example
low uptime is also an issue for higher campaign stages

[eager mulch]

460 is the last gun id use for general use musashi

[faint cloud]

jp also wrong

[plain saffron]

so we blame JP

[keen sable]

jif is saved

[eager mulch]

can I blame renhex instead?

[viscid swift]

anyway, From Plans Laid, Eternity Arrayed, originally said it buffed Torpedos from all factions not just IJN

[hollow gust]

We should get a pin for it , for a week

[hushed dawn]

Is this a better comp? Anything worth changing?

[viscid swift]

for Nagato META?

[hushed dawn]

CV timings are untested, and yes.

[eager mulch]

but then we'd have to direct people to pins and they'd still misinterpret it

[hushed dawn]

Aight I'm just gonna copy this.

[hollow gust]

CVs need to be full oath and that should be 22 rld tech

[cobalt rapids]

when i said implac/eldr/mog i meant only one but yea just copy grey's

[hushed dawn]

Fack. The RLD I can deal with but not the rings.

[viscid swift]

200 affinity is about 7 reload more for Shinano compared to non oath

[hollow gust]

Or you can just use Eldridge instead of mogador and not give a fuck about rld tech or oath

[silk helm]

can someone explain why u use haku over amagi for that comp

[cobalt rapids]

make ur fastest cv 22.8 on gear screen then the others should closely follow

[hushed dawn]

Eldridge is... not up to speed atm so I can't consider her as an option.

[viscid swift]

that was cooked before Amagi dropped

[hollow gust]

That was a earlier comp , right now Amagi haku nano looks like the best

[undone plover]

alsace would help mog survive if that is a concern right?
so alsace/amagi/nano could also work?

[cobalt rapids]

alot of stuff works, most consistent one is pending tbd

[plain saffron]

i trust renhex

[silk helm]

i trust renhex

[eager mulch]

me too

[frank pulsar]

me too

[hushed dawn]

Why Anti-EM Commands?

[hollow gust]

it technically works as a better toolbox , but most gold hp auxes work

[hushed dawn]

So... Goldburn then (I have two copies) would be a better choice.

[whole crypt]

most consistent oneshot is probably the new amagi CV comps but obviously the reqs are quite high

[hushed dawn]

Close enough.

[civic crag]

Is this making it past 13-4 hard

[hollow gust]

Solo fleet? Nah

[civic crag]

Damn

What do I need to change

[spring topaz]

I keep pulling gold out of my mail storage to fund research and shipyard activities ... should I be saving this until my economy is a little more stabilized or I just know better what's worth spending gold on?

[hollow gust]

Well you just don't solo fleet w13-4H

[atomic abyss]

how far are you campaign wise?

[spring topaz]

W9

I'm at 32k for the event currency

[atomic abyss]

dont sink so much resources into research then, esp if youre gonna run out of coins

[spring topaz]

pretty much the only thing I've been working on since returning

[atomic abyss]

you may want to push into w12 after clearing out what you need from the event shop

[ebon verge]

what does the first command do?

[opaque hill]

Who should I build

[civic crag]

Well excluding boss fleet

[wind hazel]

minus like i think 10(?)% hp from the fleet on area you select

[soft raft]

It uh

Well it launches a airstrike on the enemy
If you mean tactical isolation, you can physically move an enemy by like 1-2 squares in any dirrction

[ebon verge]

oh i should save it for the boss then

[atomic abyss]

yorktown 2, then alsace

[keen sable]

neither works on boss

[civic crag]

What’s a good vanguard for 13-4H that doesn’t use sandykai and Laffii

[keen sable]

guam

[civic crag]

I don’t have Guam lmao

[keen sable]

shimanto

[soft raft]

Cheshire

[civic crag]

I see

[soft raft]

Tho fr, surely you would have Sandy retrofitted by the time you can consider doing W13H

[civic crag]

Is beating 13-4H with a year of progress normal or should I not be worrying about it yet

[civic crag]

No im saying that because Laffii and sandykai are in my other fleet so I’m not sure who to put in my second vanguard

[silk helm]

why yorktown 2 over alsace?

[wind hazel]

unless you want the retroprint, you can chill at 13-1 to 13-3, same core #

[atomic abyss]

closer to mlb

and he already has enough BBs for a BB fleet (BZ, Vanny, Sushi)

[silk helm]

ty

[civic crag]

Is there any reason to do 13-4H over 12-4H other than the 2 extra cores per clear

[atomic abyss]

bunker hill farm

[civic crag]

Maybe I’ll come back to 13-4H in a year or so then lololol

How do people beat the large carrier nodes without getting absolutely dunked on

[wind hazel]

have good ships that dunk on them before they dunk on you

[whole crypt]

use higher level ships, have better AA

[atomic abyss]

what i like to do, is to avoid large carrier nodes, or only do them with full ammo bonus

[plain saffron]

do 13-1 for easier time

[left cedar]

iirc avoid them make ur life shittier, cuz more planes in normal fights

[plain saffron]

13hm not 15

[lost folio]

I’ve been charged twice on my card because of an error, what do I do?

[left cedar]

Oops, ENed, its W13, not 15

[plain saffron]

wait a bit longer

[lost folio]

On the 2024 lucky bag

[plain saffron]

and contact customer service for double charge

[lost folio]

Ok thanks

[plain saffron]

it'll probably auto correct but contact them anyway to be safe

[civic crag]

Like the last 2 ships that launch probably the entire US Air Force, do I just have to sink them before they launch

[ebon lion]

whats the best plane loadout for Amagi?

[atomic abyss]

it depends on where you're using her

[civic crag]

Also indep is super good, but is there any reason to use her over amagi cv

[wind hazel]

shoot down most of the plane and you'd be fine

[atomic abyss]

yes - she always has a faster first airstrike

and in campaign - desyncing is ideal

[wind hazel]

use indep on mob, amagi on boss

[civic crag]

Bro sandy Kai barely scratches the planes once they launch I don’t get it bruh

[wind hazel]

run triple CV on mob

[atomic abyss]

you are using 125 ships?

[civic crag]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

this the mob fleet?

[civic crag]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

gear issue then

[civic crag]

Oh wait indep is level 105

[atomic abyss]

i used alsace instead of bis zwei - shouldnt have changed things too much

...BRUH

[civic crag]

Okay does it really matter that much

[wind hazel]

you really want 125 for 13-4H

[atomic abyss]

yes

[haughty dust]

has it been determined yet if Amagi (CV) is any good?

[civic crag]

It’s only one of them

[ebon lion]

Let's say just in general. Should I use the same loadout as Hakuryuu?

[atomic abyss]

20 levels under means 40% less damage dealt by her and 40% more damage taken

[atomic abyss]

you can go fighter db tb for general use, same as haku sure

[civic crag]

Is agir any good for 13-4H

[atomic abyss]

yeah, ofc she is
you do need a tank

[lament bay]

is azuma burn dmg good? does it combo with amagi CV

[fervent hearth]

whats the link for the current nagato meta fleets?

[atomic abyss]

azuma's burn isn't anything special no

[keen sable]

no and no

[civic crag]

Is anchorage the best SR tank

[hollow gust]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

solo, yes

[civic crag]

Which non UR banner limited CA is the best

[atomic abyss]

napoli - if we talking about tanks

[left cedar]

CA non UR exist ?
OMEGALUL

except Ancho, i dont think they exist

[keen sable]

hindy isn't banner...

[atomic abyss]

san fran

[civic crag]

Bruh I missed Unzen and Guam like bruh

[atomic abyss]

guam isnt even a CA

[viscid swift]

Freidrich Carl is an SR CA that exists

[civic crag]

Like overall including damage and aa and skills

[left cedar]

isnt much more than Hein

[viscid swift]

She's much much better

I'd argue She's at least on par with Azuma