gameplay-help

[twin spoke]

I got research running 24/7 and sometimes days pass without getting 1 part

[hollow gust]

It's just your selection that sucks

[sweet delta]

"people here" don't care about ship bps, which new players who actually need tenrais should be caring about

[sharp socket]

it took me 4-5 months for one on gear focusing

[twin spoke]

Nopes

[ocean coyote]

Maybe it's more reasonable

[sweet delta]

That's even worse

[viscid swift]

.....

[ocean coyote]

😭

[stark quiver]

what researchs do you guys take for gear focus, like the order from best to worst

[sweet delta]

Why do you insist on putting converging TBs and zero interception on a campaign load out

[viscid swift]

Cookie cutter not poverty leveling build

[hollow gust]

If it takes more then 3 months then yeah it's on u

[twin spoke]

Nah, just bad luck

[pseudo hearth]

So Maryland Retro

Thoughts?

[viscid swift]

she's mid

[sweet delta]

About as mid as the other big seven retros

[sharp socket]

rainbow > rigging analysis UL > ship UL > rigging analysis purple > blue > ship purple/blue > ship gold > coin > others

[hollow gust]

Theres bad luck and there is just bad selection ,

[pseudo hearth]

Nelson?

[viscid swift]

I would not use her over Nelson

[pseudo hearth]

I meant Nelson was not mid

[twin spoke]

The latter of which doesn't apply sooo yeh

[sweet delta]

Nelson is better mobber, the USS ones are better triple BB bossers

[pseudo hearth]

Yes, but I wouldn't call Nelson mid really

[sweet delta]

Do you have rainbow BBs?

Or any new SR event BBs from the past year?

[hollow gust]

I see no point arguing with you , feel free to post your current research selection and it's probably shot

[ocean pilot]

do we always have new UR each year? if yes, how many?
im trying to save cubes

[viscid swift]

4 new UR events each year is the current rate

plus any number of reruns

[ocean pilot]

and UR always 2 cubes/pull amirite?

[pseudo hearth]

I've been playing since EN practically launched

[viscid swift]

all events barring lunar new year are 2 cubes per pull

[sweet delta]

Yeah so Nelson is mid

[pseudo hearth]

She's great. She's just not a UR

[ocean pilot]

ah so i need around 1,6k cubes each year. thanks

[pseudo hearth]

She's still one of the best non-UR mobbers as far as I'm aware

[sweet delta]

Yeah she can go through 14

[viscid swift]

to gurantee pity which you shouldn't there's of course gonna be almost double the number of none UR events per year plus UR reruns

[soft raft]

that's only assuming you get majorly unluck as shit and have to hit pity on every UR banner

And you've only taken into account new URs, not any possible UR reruns that could happen in the year

[sweet delta]

But she's not one of the best, and theres a gap between the best gold BBs and the next best gold BBs

[sinful escarp]

so far i only had 3 UR events that needed pity

[eager mulch]

or any other events

[ocean pilot]

since shimakaze shinano NJ alr on general pull(?). i can just ignore them

[ocean pilot]

dw, i only need maybe implacable and musashi , so add more 800

[sharp socket]

is renhex fleet tool plane timings accurate

[sweet delta]

Not for avp and not if you use cats, beacon, or manjuu

[stark quiver]

you gotta adjust stuff urself

[sinful escarp]

for those in the general pull, just do 1 build daily and you should eventually get enough points to just trade them in

[sharp socket]

well shit alr

[stark quiver]

like tech n stuff

[sweet delta]

Just multiply avp by 0.97

[viscid swift]

AvP isn't using an IB plane there so her reload buff isn't activated

[sweet delta]

[ocean coyote]

[runic bluff]

surely collab is not after this event??

[viscid swift]

Shouldn't be until late November

[sweet delta]

It is after , unlikely to be right after

[eager mulch]

gn gph

[sinful escarp]

we will probably get a week or 2 of downtime at the very least

[sharp socket]

so itll sync?

[viscid swift]

it should

[sharp socket]

even if i have rld tech itll still sync or no

[stark quiver]

it should since all cv

[viscid swift]

reload tech would bring the timings closer together

[sharp socket]

guess i can set it to 0 and not deal with it

[viscid swift]

That's not a bad thing

[sweet delta]

Instead of making assumptions and sounding like a dick by accusing you of skill issue, what good gameplay helpers should do is ask how many gold PR4 gear blueprints (saiun, twin 90, bf109g, SAP 406, agir gun) vs how many tenrai blueprints you've gotten from research, excluding shops. That would provide some measure of how bad your luck is

[twin spoke]

I've built multiple of each golden PR 4 thing, with the exception of Ägir gun which I only have one of

[stark quiver]

what researches have you been picking?

[twin spoke]

I haven't always gear focused tho, I focused haku blueprints whenever I could for a long time

[sweet delta]

I mean the number youve built multiplied by 25, and then add what's left in your depot craft

[twin spoke]

Would have to check

[weary gust]

In my experience you get about 50 of the UR BPs for every time you collect enough of the ship BPs to dev 30 the entire series.

[twin spoke]

That'd be a bit too crazy haha

[signal pollen]

Helena radar scan plus with sg radar starts makes her debuff work at 16 seconds first right? I don’t know if I’m visually seeing it wrong but there isn’t a reason for my vanguard build to sync with it right? I do see her fire a volley immediately after nj with a fire control radar

[twin spoke]

Buuut I'm at a bit over 30 Tenrai parts from research in the timeframe I've gotten 450 Haku and 200 Ägir BPs

[mighty axle]

"sortie with kaga or akagi" does that stacks?

[viscid swift]

no, and it's not worth taking advantage of anyway

[twin spoke]

I think they only put that in there for story reasons

[stark quiver]

what is this for?
also sg radar isnt the fire control radar if thats what yore asking

[twin spoke]

Amagi seems bonkers enough without it

[mighty axle]

I see ok

[viscid swift]

Vanguard buffs her own very high reload stat for a BB by 20%
also please replace that SG radar for a black shell

[eager mulch]

I’ve farmed 76 tenrai prints compared to 211 saiun kai, 160 agir gun prints, 153 bfgs, 189 aa guns, 167 mp gun prints am i doing something wrong?

[sweet delta]

In my experience I get two UR gear at around the same time as dev 30 DR ships. The moral of the story is that ships and gear aren't comparable because different people focus different projects

[signal pollen]

I know sg isn’t fire control radar. I just spot it in for the copium

[twin spoke]

Have the tryhards out there playtested enough to see where Amagi ranks among the UR CVs by now?

[signal pollen]

Oh that explains a lot. Does it mean a fire control radar will make her fire too fast for Helena?

[true solstice]

Is there a fleet that can complete battles in less than 9-10 seconds? I want to complete them quicker

[sweet delta]

Yes, but where and at what cost?

[viscid swift]

Still waiting

[hollow gust]

No one has her skill done

[true solstice]

No PR and DR ships, the time it takes to get them makes it kinda pointless

[stark quiver]

well spam preloads

[sweet delta]

I mean what are you fighting, like chapter 15 mobs aren't going to roll over in 10 seconds, but opsi c5 mobs can

[true solstice]

The event D3

[twin spoke]

Are those Spearfish?

[viscid swift]

yes

[twin spoke]

Heckin expency

[sharp socket]

i got 175 CBgun, 165 bf109, 190 AAgun, 193 SAPgun, 182 saiun and 79 tenrai print in 6 month of pr4, while mostly gear focus, is that unlucky amount

[eager mulch]

fellow spearfish enjoyer

[twin spoke]

Siren grind really puts me off x.x still workin on my first wyvern

[hollow gust]

No oath

[eager mulch]

i was supposed to be going to bed

[viscid swift]

I can't afford to oath for stats

[sweet delta]

I would recommend putting ships who need exp in your D3 fleet, but if you must go fast, then put preloads and semipreloads as im new said

[sharp socket]

wait no i cant math, 64 tenrai print

[twin spoke]

Oath the floof not only for her stats!

[eager mulch]

he’s f2p

[sharp socket]

cheeky is f2p player

[sweet delta]

Why's everyone so low on tenrai compared to gold pr4

[viscid swift]

let me check mine

[twin spoke]

It just be like that

As much as I'd like a 3rd, I'm close to finishing my 2nd and I honestly don't wanna go through that again

Especially since all the other PR4 gold gear becomes kinda useless once ya have a bunch of it

Tf am I gonna do with 5 SAP 406s

[sharp socket]

wait no i still cant math, i have 50 + 14 + 15 so 79 tenrai prints

[sweet delta]

Then you're average

[twin spoke]

Saiun also pretty underwhelming since Ryusei exists, honestly would've been cool if they gave Amagi an event plane

[sweet delta]

I use saiun more than ryuusei

[elfin hollow]

What are the high priority things to get from this event?

[stark quiver]

saiun and the rest are timing sidegrades

[sharp socket]

saiun ryusei and ju87 are timing sidegrades

iirc their bombs are the same apparently not

[elfin hollow]

Pins, gotcha. How do I check pins again?

[twin spoke]

Ju 87 torps do less damage than Ryusei

Timing I got no idea, too meta for me haha

[signal pollen]

Will a fire control radar Vanguard sync with a radar scanner plus Helena with sg radar

[viscid swift]

Quad 152mm: 222
Vit-2: 451
Su-2: 406
Brest Gun: 447
Harbin Gun: 457
30mm AA Gun: 470

[stark quiver]

depends

[elfin hollow]

Found it. Thanks. New UI confuses me.

[stark quiver]

how long did u stay in pr5 for

[signal pollen]

What does it depend on?

[viscid swift]

honestley lost count

[sweet delta]

I have transcended bps and speak in whole copies:
18 saiuns, 20 agirs, 18.5 bfg's, 19.5 Marcos, 20.5 twin90, 5 tenrai
So basically very slightly more than 1 tenrai BP per 2 of each gold bps

[stark quiver]

the gun and timing

and looking at that vanguard build no, wont make it to 16s

[twin spoke]

O_o

[sharp socket]

i suppose the longer you do it for the more average it will become

[sweet delta]

Except for Gerat58 that one's half the others for some reason as cheeky data agrees with

[signal pollen]

Ok. Thank you. How do I manually do the math for timing?

[stark quiver]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/battleship/

[signal pollen]

Thank you

[sweet delta]

Actually no it's not, I got baited by cheeky thinking it's pr5

[little tree]

Is the XSB3C-1 worth Craftring in gear labs?

[sharp socket]

goldiver not really

craft other things instead

[sweet delta]

Not at all unless you legit have some cursed timing that needs the 0.02s difference from helldiver

[stark quiver]

mfw boss procs 100% dmg increase in 0.02

[viscid swift]

In my defense, both are crap AA guns with no redeeming qualities....

[eager mulch]

In* my defense, both are crap AA guns with no* redeeming qualities….

[viscid swift]

Right, where's my St Vincent, I have a few cruisers to dev strike.....

[strong tartan]

next year ™️

[rugged summit]

Is the resources u use on gearlabs from opsi scarce or is it only when ur just starting?

[sweet delta]

clearing 95% of opsi in one month gives more materials than clearing 50% of opsi in each of two (maybe even three) months

[stark quiver]

when youre starting + when you still need to get a lot of gear

[sweet delta]

basically, it's slow when youre a new player who can't win much

[stark quiver]

when youre settled for gear/need less, then they start to build up

[storm heron]

So normal rainbow weapon bp is half the amount of the average of gold weapon bps

[spring bolt]

lol not sure if you guys heard about this but amagi second skill is bugged
rockets, bombs, torps only gets 1%-2% damage buff as the distance is not enemy to amagi but enemy to the plane that launched the payloads lol. barrage bullets not affected as they are lunched from the ship
devs are working on a fix now

[sweet delta]

didnt hear

i did find it surprising though that CN failed to datamine until today that it deducts 35 units, and they just put amagi flag assuming she'd get the full 18%

[spring bolt]

deducts 35 units? means she gets full 18% at 90+35 units? or 90-35?

[muted ember]

is Watarase and Suzunami good?

[sweet delta]

90+35

[spring bolt]

[soft raft]

Watarase most likely at least "Good but better options exist"
Suzunami is a event elite and 99% of the time they're outside of when they give good fleet tech bonuses

[sweet delta]

no it's 75+35?

yeah it's 75+35 not 90+35, they thought it was 75

[spring bolt]

can you pm me the code fragment? i will let them know and check if it's a bug for feature

[storm heron]

watarase is not top5 cl?

[muted ember]

mostly considering building them cause I wanna hone in on Amagi CV's reload buff with each JP ship

[sweet delta]

it is feature and makes sense as a feature

[spring bolt]

alright

[sweet delta]

because if it's 75 then it'll literally always be at max 18% unless hitting a kagerou prod

[spring bolt]

well that's still reasonable for a UR tbh...

[soft raft]

[Insert "Faction fleet bad" statement here]
Yes the reload buff is nice, but that does not justify building faction fleets at all

Alot of the time, faction related buffs are mostly treated as convient self buffs

[keen sable]

so amagii going to slaughter magato when fixed

[forest palm]

doubt she is

[spring bolt]

most likely, just not as hard as CN expected, like 3-5% less hard

[solar orchid]

Can anyone help me with OPSI fleet setup? I wanna faction fleets

[little tree]

You know faction fleets are terrible?

[solar orchid]

I know but theyre cool

[stark quiver]

nice well make thread and post dock

[spring topaz]

Is independence still good for my account worth buying from core data shop? https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1277338732361678950

[sweet delta]

how many white and black shells do you have?

[spring topaz]

2 / 2

[muted ember]

how good is my fleet

[topaz smelt]

it was def purposely in there, we had it in our datamines

[sweet delta]

get third white and then consider independence

[stark quiver]

aside from the non mlb amagi and nagato its fine

[solar orchid]

nice well make thread and post dock

[sweet delta]

and besides, you need to retrofit unicorn before independence, and independence sucks without retro

[muted ember]

I'm working on MLB-ing Amagi,and what's wrong with Nagato?

[topaz smelt]

shes kinda shit

[sweet delta]

not much, it's fine through chapter 12

[muted ember]

she's been my go-to Flagship

mostly cause I don't have many other options

[topaz smelt]

anything will work thru early campaign with levels and half decent gear, she falls off hard later

[hollow gust]

You def have better options

[topaz smelt]

just push to 12 and level better things

[sharp socket]

since this is your boss, put your best BB there

[muted ember]

she is my best BB

[sharp socket]

where hood

[topaz smelt]

theres plenty of purple shitters better than her

[sharp socket]

or nelson retro

[sweet delta]

hood is on mob fleet

[muted ember]

Nelson not retro on rn

[hollow gust]

Did u not grab Indiana

[muted ember]

nope

got all except Indiana on that banner

[sweet delta]

your current boss fleet is fine through chapter 12 or event D3, and chapter 12 or event D3 is where you can efficiently level up replacement ships

[muted ember]

might as well post my decent BBs

or what I think is decent-

[sweet delta]

Hiei META would end up as your best, but her skills take a long time to level

[muted ember]

working on getting Hiei

[silk helm]

isnt izumo with her aug good?

[soft raft]

well she's currently doing jack shit at pre D30

[sweet delta]

yeah but takes a long time to coin

[muted ember]

although yes faction skills are trash,with the fact that all of my good back line ships are JP ships Nagato's JP Ship buff is nice

[sweet delta]

and hiei meta will still be at least as good as izumo when both are maxed

nagato and izumo can't be used together effectively at all

[crisp estuary]

[muted ember]

actually isn't Musashi an off flag ship BB?

[viscid swift]

not really

[topaz smelt]

She soft prefers flag

[bold cove]

How about newest meta, is she good at max?

[spring topaz]

how do people generally go about leveling up freshly pulled new unit they want to build?

[bold cove]

Use some book, but em in full fleet and sorti?

[viscid swift]

book them to level 70 and then throw them in the leveling fleet farming 12-1

[sharp socket]

xpbook until 70, mlb
xpbook until 90
gear them
send to 12-1/D3 until 120

[muted ember]

is 10-1 a good farming lvl for peeps who don't have 12-1?

[spring topaz]

what if you don't have enough books

[bold cove]

If you can do 10-1, i think you can do D3

[viscid swift]

good no, esepcially with an event ongoing

[stark quiver]

then you farm for a bit to get books

[sharp socket]

dorm and wait until they can live in farming

[wind hazel]

opsi is free level too

[bold cove]

Im just finish 9-3 and try to levling some tpd on D1, when i unlock D3 im all in that hole

[muted ember]

the 10 hour commision is also something to get the grind to lvl 70 right-

[sharp socket]

opsi c1 farming if you have lots of time

[sharp socket]

bad, just farm

[muted ember]

got it

[bold cove]

Year, that fine, before youre go to bed

10 hours cubes is delicious

[sharp socket]

its way more efficient to spend oil in oilcap map

[wind hazel]

unless you're extremely inactive, it's a bad value commission

[eternal pendant]

Hey is there a guide I can follow for a beginner?

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[eternal pendant]

Thank you so much!

[wet badge]

• coins n gear

[sharp socket]

irrelevant, 12-4 has 6.7 oil to coin ratio

10hr comm needs to give you 8k coin to be about equal to 12-4

[wet badge]

What level of ship do i need for 1:1 grind on 12-4 (do i also need cross fleet spam)

[sweet delta]

you need to not do 1:1 grind on 12-4

[sharp socket]

its oilcap just full fleet

lv90s mlb with uni can do it

[wet badge]

O so i 1:1 on non oilcap?

[soft raft]

no he's saying that there's zero reason to do 1:1 grind on 12-4 when oil cap is a thing

and you frankly shouldnt be farming anything below W9 unless you're specifically farming for map drop exclusive ships

[queen jackal]

how many chapters does opsi have

[spring topaz]

what is opsi

[frank pulsar]

operation siren

[spring topaz]

what do you do or farm there?

[frank pulsar]

you kill literally everything in there for gear lab materials

*its also your only source of gear lab materials

gear lab is one of your main ways to get good equipment, the other being research

[spring topaz]

got it, ty

[vale spindle]

is that why we get 200 gems?

[spring bolt]

wut? you got 200 gems?

[strong tartan]

they announced it

theyre fixing something about her thats bugged and im assuming its that

[rain bobcat]

[vale spindle]

#game-news message even though this tweet says the skill description was wrong i think they are lying and its due to some code issues

[strong tartan]

we get 200 gems after maint this thurs

[azure terrace]

is event worht farming besides d3

[coarse heron]

that's how you farm all events yes

[spring bolt]

no i think that's another issue, this one was just found

[vale spindle]

400 gems plz

[coarse heron]

200 Apolorings pls

[rain bobcat]

a full ring pls

[spring bolt]

yongshi coder will be working overtime during holiday confirmed

[eternal moth]

Right now I'm running Haku/Nano/Imp/Sirius/Helena/Kaza, but I haven't quite been able to one-shot Nagato. I don't have Naka finished, but have pretty much anyone else. Thoughts on how I could change this comp?

I'd probably kill it if I got a triple Helena proc, but I don't want to rely on that

[spring bolt]

i did it with musa haku shinano ply kaza mog, but not consistent, i heard using alsace instead of musa will slightly increase one shot rate

[vale spindle]

is mog better than unzen

*for this one fight ofc

i thought unzen would be the best dps option for that slot

im running shinano haku implac agir kaza unzen and getting 1.1 mil

[eternal moth]

What was the gear? Seems like that'd be a scuffed setup

[eternal moth]

You could try replacing Agir with Sirius for more damage from the CVs

[vale spindle]

yea

[eternal moth]

I might try that.

[spring bolt]

16 cv rld, 17 bb rld

[sweet delta]

it requires max (non-rld) tech and gear, you won't make it

[stark quiver]

whats the rld time for alsace there

[spring bolt]

mog isn't there for the dps, she will shortly stop boss from moving in the third turn so torps will land

dps wise unzen does 40k more than mog iirc

[spring bolt]

24.81 in dock

[eternal moth]

Why does Mog have an SG radar there, more hit?

[rain bobcat]

im pretty sure most of those cut it close even with max tech

[spring bolt]

anyway we will need to wait for maxed amagi to get consistent one shot

[grizzled sundial]

Among all Amagi CV skill , which one should i raise to lv 10 first ? Barrage is tempting

[topaz smelt]

i dont think you need a fully maxed one

[gray sphinx]

do you only get two strongholds per reset in opsi?

[plain saffron]

2 on reset 1 per monday

all stacks but only 3 shows in map at a time

[gray sphinx]

oh okay so it doesn't matter how often you clear opsi as long as you clear them all before reset?

[plain saffron]

yeahg

[civic crag]

Is it worth using akagi or kaga for amagi 20% first airstrike reload buff

[plain saffron]

50% and nope

[errant wing]

out of the UR ships thats not max limit broken yet i have Soyuz, Laffey II, Amagi CV who should i max next?

[civic crag]

Depends on your dock

Do you have a lot of good vgd? Do you need bb? Need cv?

[errant wing]

I need better vgd yeah

[gray sphinx]

you're sleeping hard on laffey II then

[stark quiver]

send a SS of all URs and how much UR bulins do you have/can get

[civic crag]

Then Laffii

Small bonus Laffii is also very good In pvp

[gray sphinx]

and very very good for W15

[errant wing]

Ill do laffey then actually. ty for the advice

[gray sphinx]

the combination of laffey II and guam makes W15 a comfy run rather than a sweaty one

[errant wing]

yea got guam maxed i think laffey best choice for me

[grizzled sundial]

Do Kaga BB trigger Amagi CV fast reload on first airstrike ?

[civic crag]

Is 13-4 or normal arbiter more difficult

[stark quiver]

both are completely different and requires different fleets

[sharp socket]

for narbiter you can leave to heal and hit it over and over until it dies

[civic crag]

Ok I guess I’ll just try 13-4

[spring bolt]

should be but no one is bothered to test it

[sinful elk]

Chat does this skill count for BBs

[stark quiver]

yea according to the game cannon means main guns from ships

[hollow gust]

It does , tested it just incase

[plain saffron]

cannon dmg is anything that scale of FP

[exotic wren]

Who? Is this Halford?

[sinful elk]

Also does mog gun works well on her too

[gusty olive]

Plymouth for 3 georgia Gun BB's (Halford basically)

[peak plume]

im assuming perma stats works for Campaign , Events , EX but not for PvP right?

[stark quiver]

tech does not work

[peak plume]

so everything else aside from PvP it should apply

[stark quiver]

pvp counts ships, gear enhances, and oaths

[elfin hollow]

Is the Hiei crystals only available in the event shop or are there other ways to get it?

[forest palm]

post event they go into the Meta Shop iirc

no real reason to skip them though

[rain bobcat]

ur supposed to farm 55k anyway

[forest palm]

I go to 60k

really depends on if you want to save a bulin

[near moat]

is watarase a build only ship, or can i get her from drops? that is the only ship im missing and i only have done 84 pulls so far, but i ran out of quick finisher drills

[elfin hollow]

how many do you need? it seems I got one from somewhere already

[forest palm]

it's like bulins just 4 to MLB

they show up in your depot, you'll find a crystal with a small portrait of the ship in the center

[elfin hollow]

Awesome. Thanks.

[elfin hollow]

I don't have the oil for that

[forest palm]

Watarase is build only, but she's not exactly a must have, so unless you're going for collection, just chill this event is 3 weeks long

[remote yarrow]

Well you have a lil bit over 2 weeks left to grind so no need to worry

[elfin hollow]

i still dont have the oil for that

[remote yarrow]

Explain? Cuz I think you'll get more than enough oil in 2 weeks to farm 55k points

[topaz smelt]

dorm food enjoyer

[blazing shale]

Not me with over 500x 5k exp

[narrow storm]

Guys, is there any beginner mistakes I should avoid?

[forest palm]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

there's a lot of newbie traps, refer to the guide

[thick venture]

careful with what you spend gems on
just focus on progressing

[narrow storm]

Should I retrofit my laffey first or portland first?

[hollow gust]

Unicorn

[forest palm]

Portland

[narrow storm]

Ah I'll get that soon

[forest palm]

of those 2, definitely Portland

[narrow storm]

[hollow gust]

Unicorn is really easy to get , her retrofit is priority , then you can get Portland done . You should read through the whole guide

[topaz smelt]

you kinda work on both at the same time, if you have been keeping up with 3 stars youll have more than enough mats for both

[forest palm]

they only share what 2, or so common mats for retrofit, otherwise they shouldn't conflict

the only thing I hope they aren't doing is running Indianapolis

[thick venture]

how long is the current event?

[forest palm]

3 weeks

[thick venture]

thankies

[forest palm]

so like 16 days left

[polar lion]

CVagi can use OGmagi skins, right?

[inland shoal]

Wrong

[forest palm]

nope

says it on the tin

[polar lion]

Ooof, that sucks

[runic bluff]

what do I craft in gear lab............like how many UR gears I should have before crafting whenever I want?

[inner delta]

you craft as you need them like wyvern is mostly max 3

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[inner delta]

theres also this

[clever lance]

Should I use data packs to accelerate combat data collection exp?

[finite crag]

no

convert it to prototype cores

[clever lance]

What are prototype cores used for?

[finite crag]

for research gear in the protocore shop

combat data collection is the easiest part of research so dont waste your combat data packs on that

[vital phoenix]

Whose preload airstrike deal more dmg? Unicorn or Perseus?

[vale spindle]

unicorn retrofit

1 extra plane + higher efficiencies, so its a big jump

[inland shoal]

Perseus launches 2 airstrikes in exchange

[vale spindle]

oh right percy has 2 preloads

[vital phoenix]

Yea that's what I want to know. If Perseus 2 preload deals more damage than unicorn 1 preload

[vale spindle]

technically yes but in practice the 2 preloads clear the same amount of enemies as the 1 preload, since the 2nd preload overkills enemies weakened by the first preload

also after the preload unicorn has significantly more damage due to 1 extra plane and higher efficiencies

[inland shoal]

And not having 90% cd increase

[subtle cloud]

would it be worth running new Amagi over Taihou in my main fleet? Not sure who’s better

[vale spindle]

probably yes

but you would need a max limit break amagi cv to replace taihou

[inland shoal]

As long as your Amagi is MLB she is better

[subtle cloud]

yea I figured

ok thanks

[queen jackal]

should i use a purple tenzan over gold barracuda on enty? is the avi stat more valuable than hitting more torps with a converging plane

[wind hazel]

depends on where you use her. if campaign then stick to barracuda

[queen jackal]

i use her everywhere right now for my boss fleet

[sinful elk]

Chat is Jervis worth to lvling to 125

[wind hazel]

if you don't have better options for w14

personally i don't think she's that worth the 125

[clever lance]

Are any of the planes in the monthly shop good for amagi or shinobi

[sinful elk]

aside from kron and anchorage i dont think i have any other tanking ship so i'll just go ahead

[wind hazel]

plymouth?

[elfin hollow]

Is the new Amagi any good and should she take priority over the other URs?

im very behind, i havent levelling many of my URs yet, i took an extended break of 6 or so months

[signal leaf]

Can someone tell me the line for when you have like literally zero affinity, like for example: "X wants to know you better"

im very curious

[rain bobcat]

which URs are you behind on exactly

[rain bobcat]

its just the disappointed line

[compact gulch]

so i got to the 400 set ur exchange which of the 3 should i get?

[rain bobcat]

nano

[signal leaf]

no like the diamond showing your affinity level next to the ship profile

[fading plinth]

is watarase any good

[elfin hollow]

yes.

[atomic abyss]

We don't know, come back in a week

[fading plinth]

okay but

[rain bobcat]

wtf you mean yes

[fading plinth]

why does 1.2% seem really low when it comes to azur lane

[wind hazel]

because 1.2 is low

[remote yarrow]

Cuz it's an UR

[atomic abyss]

It's just how percentages work really

[fading plinth]

eh

[signal leaf]

1.2 is the usual UR rate

[finite crag]

why is water wet

[signal leaf]

plus its better than some gacha games Ive seen Cough trauma cough

[rain bobcat]

its just a grey broken heart dont remember anything else
in the page

[fading plinth]

1.2% seems high in other games except AL

[atomic abyss]

It's luck
Nothing more

[elfin hollow]

i mean literally all of them lol. the only ones levelled to 120 is Shimakaze and Warspite. The rest are around... level one... yeah they level 1...

[wind hazel]

this guy plays fgo

[fading plinth]

i dont

[rain bobcat]

did you mean take priority as in levels or bulins

[elfin hollow]

both technically

[rain bobcat]

do you have all the URs

[signal leaf]

oh really? no line or anything lol?

[elfin hollow]

ive got a few. one second lemme send a ss.

[compact gulch]

would she replace uni or saratoga? i also have little fdg

[wind hazel]

no

[rain bobcat]

plus the disappointed line

[compact gulch]

i got amagi cv and alsace but i was told to wait and max limit break before using them

[atomic abyss]

She's not max limit broken, she's not replacing anyone

So yes

[rain bobcat]

I dont remember the line when you press the thing

[atomic abyss]

You'll prioritise Alsace still

[rain bobcat]

havent hated a ship enough to get them that low in a long time

[pseudo stream]

I mean you can still use them, just understand they aren't at full effectiveness

[elfin hollow]

as i said. im very behind.

[rain bobcat]

why are 3 of them lb 1

[elfin hollow]

i got dupes

[wind hazel]

i'd go all in alsus

[elfin hollow]

whos taht again

[rain bobcat]

finish alsace then like laffii amagi nano soyuz guam

[compact gulch]

well i need help making my team and or 2 cause i am losing on 9-1 when i use up my ammo lol

[wind hazel]

Alsace

[frank pulsar]

imho mlb them in this order
alsace > soyuz > nano > amagi> laffii = guam
uvh and mog can wait

[rain bobcat]

alsace laffii soyuz amagi nano

[wind hazel]

nahhhh laf2 can wait

[elfin crest]

How do I get my TRP up?

[rain bobcat]

would finish laffii or guam earlier if u have no better vg since they have copies

if you have the good SR and maybe DR vang's just all in backline

[wind hazel]

good tank is easy to get, eg anchorage. but good backline is rare

[elfin hollow]

uhh im getting a lot of mixed answers here but it seems that alsace is clear winner so ig ill work on her next

[wind hazel]

definitely prioritize backline then vanguard

[wind hazel]

i'd go with this really

[rain bobcat]

nano should probably be behind amagi

[wind hazel]

actually it's more like alsus>soyuz>wait dec UR

[clever lance]

Are any of the planes in the monthly shop good for amagi or shinobi

Shinano*

[rain bobcat]

or a musashi spook

[elfin hollow]

thanks ill work on her while i grind for this event

[wind hazel]

or that yeah

[rain bobcat]

seems inevitable at this point since there's a skin lol

[elfin hollow]

two birds with one stone

[rain bobcat]

there's no way they just blue ball people and not rerun mushi in november after releasing a skin

[crimson glacier]

dont worry theres literally 0% chance for that

[wind hazel]

ahem musashi

[rain bobcat]

oh right

brain fart

[compact gulch]

so if i get nano i would still do aslace first then nano and then replace saratoga and little fdg when max limit broken?

[wind hazel]

what even is your current fleet?

[elfin hollow]

mine?

[wind hazel]

no, seijin's

[supple canopy]

Who’s better? Halford or Daisencfor research?

[rain bobcat]

daisen

[supple canopy]

I already have Napoli, Nishi, and Bayard

[compact gulch]

in this order first fleet is (bacline) saratoga, uni, little fdg. (frontline) prinz heindrich, laffy, and brementon

[supple canopy]

Also more opsi play time = more coins for opsi shop?

I have no idea where I should be fighting in opsi

[compact gulch]

then i have some units from beginner guide and peoples advice on second fleet but dunno in what order to place them

[wind hazel]

not sure why little fdg is doing there to begin with

[rain bobcat]

why is lil fried there

[strong tartan]

I thought she was fine for beginners

[wind hazel]

but if you have mlb alsace, then yes kick her out

[strong tartan]

Oh nevermind

[compact gulch]

i was a beginner when her event was out so i have ben using her now i have somewhat resources and other units to maybe rethink my fleet lol

[rain bobcat]

an lb1 alsace would do way more than lil fdg

[cunning blaze]

how to obtain exp books easily is there any way except from seasonal cruise mission?

[compact gulch]

i can get aslace to limit 2 i am just missing 1 ur bulin to max her

[rain bobcat]

lecture hall...

if you mean purple that thing is only in cruise and some packs

[cunning blaze]

is there any other way to speed up the production?

[rain bobcat]

upgrading it

[cunning blaze]

cuz mine is very slow like 3-5hours i only get 15-17 of it

[rain bobcat]

its like 60 a day

[compact gulch]

First and second fleet and all my current units any advice will be greatly appreciated thank you🙏

I know it’s a mess and all over the place still a big newbie trying to learn😭

[wind hazel]

you should use your hood instead of lil fdg

retro your nelson, saratoga

then either save the gold bulin for enterprise, or raise your kazagumo

[compact gulch]

got it so besides little fdg being switched and retro saratoga who else should i change?

or is kaz and enterprise the damage dealers? maybe i need to redo my gear as well

[wind hazel]

uh, kick off yorktown, shigure. put nelson, kazagumo in

ark royal is fine if you're still far off from AVP from PR4

but she wants retro as well

enterprise is the damage dealer, kaza is a buffer

[compact gulch]

any way to get her besides build?

[wind hazel]

from medal shop if there's CV rotation, or rookie reward, unless this is where you got your hood from

you're probably not done with the rookie missions right? seeing your laffey is not retro'd as well

[compact gulch]

yes...

[wind hazel]

finish it and get enterprise from there then

[compact gulch]

haha genius i am just retired some purple ships and got her from medal

so limit break her?

[rain bobcat]

enty? yes

[compact gulch]

yes and hood is the flag on main fleet yes?

[wind hazel]

yes, make sure you have her augment too

[rose cosmos]

Who do yall usually pair heinry with btw

[rain bobcat]

who?

heinrich is just a tank use her if you need a tank

only thing to keep in mind is having atleast 1 more german

[compact gulch]

laffy and bremeton

[rain bobcat]

it can be fdg, nimi, gz, whoever thats good

[finite crag]

how much better is the fw-190 than flapjack for heavy

[inland shoal]

🤏

[rain bobcat]

not much to be worth it iirc

[finite crag]

better is better ill take it

[inland shoal]

I wouldn't +13 it

[finite crag]

🤭

[rain bobcat]

wasnt even really worth to +13 when it released iirc, its only 1 slot in the heavy comp anyway

[ancient ridge]

Is saratoga retrofit good? My retrofitted characters are Ayanami, Helena, Laffey, Unicorn, Portland

[rain bobcat]

good

[ancient ridge]

Are there any other R below charactera that are good to retrofit aswell?

[rain bobcat]

rare? juneau and isuzu

but isuzu is a drop ship 7-3

[ancient ridge]

Tyty

[rain bobcat]

they have pretty niche uses which is w12 and 13 and pvp for juneau wouldnt really hunt them and focus

[quartz jungle]

Kagerou is okay for torps

[hallow kernel]

who should i waste my bulins on first

[finite crag]

you cant bulin fdg

[hallow kernel]

oh woops didn't mean to include her

[rain bobcat]

amagi and whoever u want after

no real use for vanguard

so just pick whoever u like more on the frontline ships

[finite crag]

alsace hiding in the corner

[hallow kernel]

got an mlb alsace up top, is there any use for two

[finite crag]

oh

[tame jungle]

No there is not

[compact gulch]

finally finished the exam since i have enty who should i choose?

[hallow kernel]

i just keep both cause i like both default and swimsuit skin for lobby

[compact gulch]

also who is enty replacing?

[inland shoal]

If you have Enty, get Hood

[compact gulch]

got hood too

[queen jackal]

who should i replace for sandy? my mobbing fleet has jda z23 fargo, boss fleet helena portland laffey

[inner delta]

sandy retro?

[queen jackal]

no, just asking for future reference so i dont awaken whoever im replacing

[inner delta]

uh helena

helena just not good for campaign

[queen jackal]

where does she get used

[inner delta]

single target boss

like meta fight or arbiter and such

because its faster and sync to their setup

if you make ryuusei sync better than go ryuusei

both are sync sensitive so its replacing eachother

yes

well the "rld faster" part isnt always a benefit. Its just who sync better

yes

the spot is also competitive with saiun kai and the new vit 2 too

so its all just who fit your loadout better

[cobalt rapids]

saiun kai, ju-87d4 ryuusei and vit-2 are all sidegrades to each other and the best ones are the ones that fit ur timing the best like yooki said

also that setup is cursed, they brought bf109g against nagato

[rain bobcat]

he prob would one shot if he wasnt using saiun and bf109

u have to max out 3 strike for meta usually because most cant rly 4 strike it

[narrow storm]

Guys should I use wata and Ticon for the early game?

[warm flax]

DD gun or CL gun for Felix?

[cobalt rapids]

plygun or her own gun

[cobalt rapids]

depends what else u have, u cannot afford to many golds in the early game

at most 1-2

[vernal edge]

Is there anything on meowfficers skills like a tierlist?

[narrow storm]

I got these (also I just recently bought unicorn so imma like build here next)

[sinful escarp]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[vernal edge]

I guess Ticonderoga with Unicorn and Penn as flagship? Also limit break your fleet

[cobalt rapids]

you can stick to penny uni ark - portland helena laffey

[narrow storm]

[heady jasper]

Where can i put amagi cv

[cobalt rapids]

is she mlb ? else nowhere, that also applies to shinano

[heady jasper]

Nah, tried pulling then got her

[cobalt rapids]

dock warmer till 6 stars

[heady jasper]

Who to replace with?

[cobalt rapids]

replace shinano with a bb

[cobalt rapids]

penny

[heady jasper]

Only penny change with nano?

[vernal edge]

You can also put Portland front, Helena mid and Laffey offtank

[heady jasper]

Left to right??

[vernal edge]

Portland-Helena-Laffey

[heady jasper]

Alr🙏🏻 thanks

[heady jasper]

Btw where do i get more exp modules for ships? Im dry😔

[vernal edge]

At commander lvl 50 Lecture Hall unlocks, so that your lvl 100+ ships getting battle exp can convert percent of it into exp books

Other than that, you get some every week as a free shop pack, event gives some occasionally, free battle pass gives one too, achieving lvl 120\125 with a single\several ships also gives quite a lot but its one time reward

[glad grove]

Is there a way to farm these?

[vernal edge]

Opsi map rewards?

[finite crag]

you can get them from opsi monthly

[rain bobcat]

monthly 30 and 10 weekly so 70

[vernal edge]

W12-13 fleet

[faint jacinth]

guys, where to put my first wyvern

[vernal edge]

Haku?

[rapid moth]

Whichever non-Perseus CV is in your mobfleet.

[vernal edge]

On other hand Shinano gets 4 planes on her 3rd slot, no?

[heady grove]

elo , i need help , should i keep gacha or save it? i still new to play

[finite crag]

save brother you have nothing left

[inland shoal]

Also you got Amagi already

[finite crag]

after you have the ur theres really no point to pulling anymore

[faint jacinth]

should i put wyvern on her?

[heady grove]

my commander still lvl 34

[finite crag]

if youre using shinano for campaign or for mobbing sure

[faint jacinth]

i see

[inland shoal]

Your fleet is a bit bad though, I would use Uni over Hiei, a BB over Amagi until you can MLB her, Portland as tank, Z23 middle and Helena offtank

[heady grove]

this only i have

just got hie

[inland shoal]

You can buy Unicorn, Portland and Helena from guild shop

[heady grove]

oky

[inland shoal]

Hiei has the issue of her skill leveling being very difficult, but she might be your best Flagship option atm, idrk

[heady grove]

this portland?

[vernal edge]

Yes

[heady grove]

and unicorn?

[inland shoal]

Elite, same as Helena

[vernal edge]

Should be in the purple ship category in the shop

[heady grove]

oh tomorrow then can buy

[inland shoal]

You can refresh for 50 guild coins

And you should every reset cuz it's basically free with how many guild coins you get and it enables you to buy twice as much

[heady grove]

like this first?

[warm latch]

no, remove the meta ships and amagi

refresh guild shop to get unicorn, she is one of the most important ships for you to get leveled as she is the strongest healer

[heady grove]

so just put that in fleet 2?

[warm latch]

no

meta ships and UR ships require a lot of resources you just wont have as a new player in order to make them useable

a MLB rare ship is better than a non MLB UR ship

[inland shoal]

You won't use fleet 2 for the time being anyway

I think Hiei might suffice as flag until you get a better one though

At least she doesn't compete for LB mats

[violet fossil]

how to automate this

[warm latch]

options > operation siren settings > reduce tb guidance
that doesnt get rid of all of them tho

[heady grove]

so what i need best to put in this fleet?

after unicorn..

[warm latch]

unicorn, helena and a decent battleship for flag

[heady grove]

helena.. is purple?

[warm latch]

yes

[heady grove]

not have..

buy in guild shop too?

[vernal edge]

Yes

[heady grove]

oky ty

[elfin thunder]

Amagi making me go to pity, the struggle is real

[elfin hollow]

Is this plane good

[cobalt rapids]

timing sidegrade for the other conv tb, but it is very slow ( and by slow i mean the flight speed aswell )

[desert trellis]

is north carolina good: ok thx

[crimson glacier]

one of the worst if not the worst SSR BB in teh game

[desert trellis]

is massachusetts good

[crimson glacier]

she sucks too

[desert trellis]

[forest palm]

Massachusetts is alright

[crimson glacier]

well she is better than NC

[sterile parrot]

are there any ships that are especially good against nagato meta?

[crimson glacier]

but not even close to good

[desert trellis]

usable i guess, ill take it

[crimson glacier]

usable if your standards are really low

[desert trellis]

id say pretty low

[novel solstice]

S-rank bunnygirl outfit though

[ocean pilot]

so i can clear hard w13-1 & 2 with this setup (auto). do i need to change at w13-3 above?
cus i must play manual or last mob & boss

[desert trellis]

i see that as an absolute win then

[crimson glacier]

looks insanely overkill for w13h if you ask me

[ocean pilot]

so i just play manual?

[crimson glacier]

idk how that would need manual

[shell willow]

overkill is the opposite of needing manual

[ocean pilot]

my mob (volga) death on 3/4 fights

[shell willow]

literally how

[ocean pilot]

idk, i check and enemy planes just scrap the volga HP

lemme try this once more just to make sure if this is rng or not

[crimson glacier]

do you have any of these

[ocean pilot]

ah no, where to get that?

[crimson glacier]

event only i think

nvm its on core data too

it should be the 2nd best torp bomber after wyvern

[ocean pilot]

oh nice. does cat is the thing? or just pick whatever cat at 30

[crimson glacier]

meowficers are kinda just whatever imo, just pick any that have flame

[ocean pilot]

so who should swap to this plane?

[crimson glacier]

uni or volga

[ocean pilot]

oki

[rain bobcat]

more like his aa gun is switched

[rain bobcat]

I kid you not swapping chesh and laffii aa would probably solve ur entire problem

also sandy and unzen

[true solstice]

How do you get monthly reset in operation SirEn? I forgot after not doing anything but the META

[crimson glacier]

monthly reset happens when month changes

[undone plover]

What is the cheapest 6-4 comp? For yuudachi
Any ideas

[rain bobcat]

cassin downes monitor lol

[undone plover]

Does that actually work on 6-4?

[true solstice]

Mine has never reset though? Does it require completing the story?

[ocean pilot]

so basically position 1 should use best AA? thanks
so change 2 gears

[rain bobcat]

yes

[rain bobcat]

its not the best aa

[crimson glacier]

position doesnt matter for AA

[frank pulsar]

shes not worth it imho
but if you want her for collection then prob cassin/downes + ranger or smth

[rain bobcat]

its the best general aa but not the best for ships with very high aa dps

[ocean pilot]

i thought because swaping AA gear

[rain bobcat]

sexbo has the highest alpha

which is why you use it on the ship with highest aa dmg

[undone plover]

Yeah it is just for collection
Did u test that comp in 6-4

[rain bobcat]

isnt monitor cheaper I forgot

[crimson glacier]

common cvl is cheaper

[frank pulsar]

nope, im just making an educated guess
i never had to farm for her to get her
if push comes to shove just run ranger + ddg ig

[true solstice]

It worked for me, although I was doing manual, but it should regardless as long as you have a high enough level

[rain bobcat]

its like 1 cheaper no?

BM is 3 if im not high and common is 2

[cobalt rapids]

what level

[rain bobcat]

eh should be fine if ranger doesnt die

[crimson glacier]

i mean if ranger dies then so does the monitor

[true solstice]

70 for the Moniter, can't really remember what Vanguard I used, but I think it was Le Terrible due to her barrage, or maybe Javelin

[undone plover]

Oh so it is not 0 lb ranger mahan?

[rain bobcat]

0 lb should do fine with good gear

[willow crag]

how to get more Special Item Tokens? Do I just run OpSi until I run out of action points?

[undone plover]

Nice thanks will try it

[rain bobcat]

people farmed ch7 with the same thing for years

[true solstice]

If you have any cross barrage ships, use them too

[rain bobcat]

yes

strongholds give the most like 600 per stronghold

[willow crag]

Im sorry idk what a stronghold is or how I get it, all I know from opsi is I just run lower than 4 and 5, auto search, and then forget OpSi is running in the background for 8 straight hours and use to get the gold gear thing from St. Petersburg port shop

[frank pulsar]

the swirly red symbol thing that cost 200 ap to enter is stronghold

[undone plover]

Do your daily missions
Clear all the “explorable” maps
Farm all the icons

Dont just repeat lower zones

[frank pulsar]

i thought c4 not worth repeating

[spring bolt]

c3 is the better spot

[undone plover]

Yeah it is c3 or c5 if u care about cat node efficiency

[warm latch]

and thats only after youve done everything else

[frank pulsar]

i always thought it just c1 and c5

[rain bobcat]

c5 spawns 2 and c3 spawns 1 iirc

c1 is for the AP farmers but it usually takes a lot to get profit

[spring bolt]

c1 is mainly for something else which most players don't care... cmdr level... some farm it for ship exp too but the time irl you need to invest in it is too huge
c3 has best gold plate/ap ratio, c5 is slightly worse but much more time efficient

[willow crag]

Im unsure if my fleet is ready, because it averages to around lvl 120

for corrosion 6

[undone plover]

Should be enough for 99% of the content
Do you have other raised fleets or only 1?
If u have 3-4 decent fleets then only C6 abyssal with heal buff might be a struggle

[willow crag]

want a screenshot of my fleets? I just tossed in whoever I thought is good

[true solstice]

I have around 440 offensive points, and something similar with the other two, is that enough?

[shell willow]

more than enough

[undone plover]

Make a thread
Lets not clutter the chat

[willow crag]

ok how do you make thread

[spring bolt]

cap for ops is 203 203 156, after that no further effect

[lament zodiac]

I take it best way to farm money is go to highest stage you can?

[spring bolt]

you mean coin? hot spots are 12-2, 12-4, 13-1, 13-4 and 14-1

[lament zodiac]

Iam trying to get money so i can build lol

[undone plover]

13-4 if u only care about gold and not xp

Generally 12-4 if u are mid-game player

Highest oil cap if u are not at 12 yet

[lament zodiac]

Yeah coin

[undone plover]

Is 14-1 better for gold than 13-4?

[spring bolt]

no, but it gives better chip drops

[warm latch]

highest X-4 stage you can farm for coins

[rich lion]

I got around 90ish cube left and still hasn't gotten Amagi UR (got so much Watarase copies I was able to MLB without any bulins lol) should I just save and wait for Musashi rerun or is Amagi that good?

EDIT: (She exhautsed 100 cubes from me just for reference)

[lament zodiac]

Chapter 12-4 or 13-4 or highest i can get if iam not chapter 12 yet, allright

I take it its normal right? Not hard one

[warm latch]

you cant farm hard, you only get 3 attempts a day

[lament zodiac]

Oh

[warm latch]

you shouldnt be farming for coins if youre not at w9+

[spring bolt]

yeah normal. also don't forget the coins in current event shop if you haven't buy them yet

[warm latch]

exp is more important so you can get to oil capped stages

[lament zodiac]

Iam still at chapter 7-3, i finish all the star requirement but somehow the progress is still at 68%

[warm latch]

you just keep defeating the boss until its 100% and you can do the next map

[lament zodiac]

Oh so thats how it work in this game, first time i see something like this in gacha

Usually 3 stars and done haha

[undone plover]

How far are you from pity?

U should go for amagi regardless
U will get enough cubes for musashi rerun

[rich lion]

104/200

[willow crag]

how enough is enough for musashi rerun?

[atomic abyss]

You get around 200 cube a month

[willow crag]

I thought according to calculation its 150

[atomic abyss]

And about 43 rolls from tickets for UR reruns

You get 168 a month from daily missions alone

[undone plover]

168/month is guarenteed minimum

• 20 every 2 months

[atomic abyss]

Plus commissions you'll usually get around 200

[undone plover]

Go for amagi 100%

[willow crag]

what I thought you get 90 per month from daily missions? since you get more or less 3 per day

[lament zodiac]

Is there up to date tierlist site? I got so much sr and meta ship i dont know which i should keep and which one to retire

[atomic abyss]

Meta ships don't take up space though

[lament zodiac]

Even though its in dock?

[atomic abyss]

Yeah, they dont

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

No memes here

[abstract latch]

Perseus worth to build or nah?

[atomic abyss]

Unicorn retro better

[abstract latch]

Aite thanks

[lament zodiac]

Tq, now i can see which sr ship that i can retire

[atomic abyss]

There's weekly missions + monthly log in chart too

[spring bolt]

well you should have enough to reach pity if no daily/weekly is missed, daily is 4, weekly 12, at least 2 weekly cycles and 16 days and it gives you 88 cubes, combined with your 90 that's around 89 pulls, plus cubes you get from commissions you are good

[lament zodiac]

Should i retire sr bulin? Dont think i will ever LB sr ship except one or two

[rich lion]

I think I can at least reach pity, but I'm also worried about not having enough for Musashi's rerun

[lament zodiac]

I got like 30+ sr bulin in my dock

[spring bolt]

leave the future to future you, current you should go all in

[lament zodiac]

You already halfway to pity, i say just go for it

[undone plover]

Musashi isnt even announced for rerun so far
Earliest possible is nov maybe
Also overall I would take amagi over her

[atomic abyss]

No, use them

[undone plover]

Also u might get amagi in the next 10 builds
No one says u will 100% pity

[atomic abyss]

Because you need faction tech to do research ships

[spring bolt]

max limit breaking ships gives you tech points, depending on how new you are you might need them for future research ships

[atomic abyss]

And one way of getting faction tech is max limit breaking ships

[spring bolt]

or how old you are so you use tech point for showoff

[rich lion]

Thanks for the opinion guys. But yeah its also because I heard from my friend that Musashi and Amagi are kinda on par with each other gameplay wise, is this true?

[lament zodiac]

Oh ok, i havent touch fleet tech and gear lab yet, that thing look confusing lol

[atomic abyss]

No, they do completely different things, you can't compare them like that

[frank pulsar]

which amagi? old amagi is nowhere close to musashi
amagi cv is different hull type, theyre not comparable

[rich lion]

Yeah the UR Amagi

[atomic abyss]

Carrier and BB can't be compared

Prioritising bulins is a separate issue entirely

[spring bolt]

hmmm, based on current contents we have, amagi has smaller impact on main story than musa, but bigger impact on opsi/meta contents

[undone plover]

There is a lot of UR BBs that can do what sushi does for most content
Musashi is unparalleled in campaign though

Amagi has 2 perma options (shinano and haku and she will be a great boost to any team that runs either)

Musashi will also archive eventually
Probably before amagi gets a rerun

[rich lion]

I do have Shinano, would it be pointless or better if I get Amagi UR still?

[wind hazel]

better, so that you can pair them together, bff

[undone plover]

Just get her

[ionic bramble]

good?

[undone plover]

Missing out on amagi means u are waiting 2.5 years till u can get her again

Put roomba on aa ship
And this gun on other ship

[spring topaz]

If I have Amagi, waterase, and Hiei META, should I keep pulling for Suzunami?

[ocean shuttle]

may as well do the 3 builds per day yeah

[forest palm]

no, not really, unless you care about collection

[ocean shuttle]

As above, it would just be for collection though

[undone plover]

Up to you
Meta answer is no
If u can spare the cubes and like her/care about collection then go for it
Can do 1 or 3 per day on event pool and hope for the best

[ocean shuttle]

Anyone know how good Fargo is? She's not on the tier list yet

[forest palm]

she's alright, nothing crazy

[lament zodiac]

Sorry for asking again, do i need to 3 stars stage in order to open next one? Or just simply 100% is enough?

[undone plover]

100% enough

[lament zodiac]

Some of the requirement like kill all enemy ship is hard lol, once my ship out of ammo, it really feel weak

[lament zodiac]

Tq

[undone plover]

3 starring maps is good for missions
U can do it later
Also when the map is safe threat it is much easier

For event u only need to 3 star hard maps or easy maps
Not both

[lament zodiac]

Safe? Wdym?

[undone plover]

When u repeat clear a map the threat level goes down
At safe (green) threat it makes farming the map a lot easier

[spring bolt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Threat_Level

[keen sable]

Ur good

[eternal basalt]

Dont bother saving anything but D3 in event. 3* though.

[lament zodiac]

Oh i never knew that

[eager mulch]

[woeful sluice]

when will there be a new iron blood event?

[wind hazel]

nobody knows, ask dev

[crisp estuary]

[jaunty glade]

https://i.imgur.com/OjzKcco.png whats the difference, does one use more oil than the other?

[barren flame]

should I mLB shinano or amagi first?

[undone plover]

Leave subs till later when u actually need em
Put them on standby for now

It does cost oil if u call them in battle

[undone plover]

Amagi
But only use bulins if u stopped pulling event

[barren flame]

sounds good, what makes her so good because she seems like a sakura fleet ship

[undone plover]

She is a UR carrier so her dmg is exceptional
She also has a great buff to sakura torpedoes
Including aircraft torpedo bombers
Also general good debuff for enemy

Ideally u run them both together

Nano and amagi I mean

[barren flame]

well after this months thing ill have 4 bullins for mLB and then i can work on Shinano

[undone plover]

U can get shinano dupes from perma pity slowly
However I dont mean build on perma pool for this

Might save u 1 bulin this way

[barren flame]

my boss fleet is alsace and mogador right now but for OpSi i have a torpedo team im working on for amagi and shinano i guess

I would rather pity for shimakaze

[wet prairie]

PvP gonna have a field day

[eager mulch]

I would shrimply not make a torpedo focused fleet

[sweet granite]

when is meta kawakaze be released?

[eager mulch]

ask the devs

[south sequoia]

No testing yet but meta is still too unfriendly for cvs

[barren flame]

my OpSI torpedo team is Yuudachi, noshiro, ayaname

[eager mulch]

why a torpedo team

[barren flame]

torpedo damage boss or soemthing

[eager mulch]

the weakness that doesn’t work?

[barren flame]

also full sakura torps

[eager mulch]

none of the weaknesses work

plus that fleet has no tank, it’ll do zero damage

[hollow gust]

you dont even have the best sakura torp

[barren flame]

oh, i see, i was reading guides for OpSi because i have never focused it since it came out and they said to have fleets that focus oon BB CV and torp, so I did

[hollow gust]

who said torp

[eager mulch]

the guide he read

[barren flame]

i might have misread something and thought it meant torps

[whole crypt]

enforcer vulnerabilities exist but none of them work, and you won't even need them if you build fleets that oneshot them anyway

[keen sable]

Bad guide because torp

[barren flame]

sounds good, ill just make fleets i like

[whole crypt]

make fleets that can beat OS

[hollow gust]

enty Keary Yorky :)

[barren flame]

i like fleets that win

[hollow gust]

well torp fleets aint it

[wet badge]

what level can i comfortable do 12-4

[hollow gust]

level for what?

[wet badge]

ships

[keen sable]

Clear 120

[hollow gust]

well boss is 114, should be around it

[wet badge]

quite a few of my vanguard are 105-120 (closer to 115) but most of my main are around 115 is that good

[hollow gust]

gear , skills and team comp also matter

[polar lion]

How good is Unzen now?

[hollow gust]

one of top vanguard dps

[whole crypt]

before considering mainfleet buffs I think Unzen is top anti-heavy for vanguards now?

[wet badge]

most of my good ships have gold gear that are atleast +6

[whole crypt]

gold != good

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[wet badge]

beside strasbourg and her triple 406

[whole crypt]

if you're using a gold triple 406 you're probably using a piece of junk

[wet badge]

purple one

[keen sable]

Getting worse

[wet badge]

(i dont have any good purple ones beside purple triple 406) 😭

[keen sable]

Helldiver is purple...

Anyways it's more the fact that you mention gold and +6

[crisp wadi]

Is the black feather in core shop worth to get ?

[keen sable]

Your weapons should have been +10 long ago

[faint jacinth]

oh ye guys, how many wyvern i need to craft?

[whole crypt]

a lot of newer players fall into the standard shiny trap and there's a lot of gold junk in the game
+6 is also kind of behind by the time you reach 12

[wet badge]

yeah most of them have +10

am i at the point where +13 matters alot

[whole crypt]

not at all

[versed swift]

Whats the build timer for shinano?

[whole crypt]

/wiki shinano

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shinano
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shinano-chan
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shinano/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shinano/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shinano-chan/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shinano-chan/Gallery

Sep 16, 2024, 1:24 PM

[hollow gust]

please dont be rolling for her

[soft raft]

5hrs 15 but like that really means jack shit when 1) you're most likely gonna get her off of accumulating perma pity, 2) You shouldnt be pulling perma pools and 3) Perma URs are not in event pools

[wet badge]

for non ur events does pulling on limited pool count

[versed swift]

Thanks but i'm just doing my daily/weekly missions ❤️

[polar lion]

How is she compared to Shimi?

[hollow gust]

just better then her

[polar lion]

Wait really??

[whole crypt]

you just pull daily on light though

[hollow gust]

actual gun damage is way more preferable

[soft raft]

non-UR events count towards perma pity yee

[polar lion]

Ah yea, she has gun dmg but does her torp dmg vs heavy comparable to Shimi or better with/without Mamagi?

[still rock]

Can someone tell me the main ways to farm cubes

[hollow gust]

with or without amagi Unzen is more reliable of a damage dealer

[whole crypt]

I mean if you wanted to consider Amagi's torp buff it'd be more likely in Shimakaze's favour

[soft raft]

just login and do your dailies and shit

you get at least 168 per month off of just daily missions, weeklies, and monthly daily login bonuses alone not counting comission RNG

[spring bolt]

unzen dps is much higher than shima lol

[atomic lagoon]

There's also the Trade License which gives you a cube a day

[still rock]

I also spend 1 cube to complete the daily "pull once" mission that awards 2 cubes if im not wrong, are you including that

[whole crypt]

well Unzen has double reload

there's very little going in shimakaze's favour in that matchup

[soft raft]

that's a daily mission so yes
and that one is more like you spend 1 cube and get it back not you get 2 cubes

[whole crypt]

if anything maybe preload damage

[wet badge]

1 cube 600 gold for 1 cube 600 gold and 3 quick fins

[plain saffron]

get 800 coins

[still rock]

The daily 2 cubes one is a different mission

[plain saffron]

not daily mission for sure

[polar lion]

Dang, I thot Shimi still reign supreme for anti heavy when considering torps dmg

[still rock]

Is this cancellable somehow

[tame jungle]

No but all you lost is time so it’s fine

[eager mulch]

time is money

[still rock]

Is le malin bad?

[hollow gust]

shes really mediocre yes

[still rock]

Whats this for

[hollow gust]

asmr in the secrets place

[plain saffron]

#gameplay-help message

[whole crypt]

I read that as asmr in secret places

[plain saffron]

my fav

[still rock]

😭

[knotty dome]

should i buy hiei meta crystals from event shop?

[hollow gust]

at the end yes

[stuck stirrup]

is it worth continuing to hammer at D3 past receiving the UR bulin or is it better to go back to farming 12+ campaign

[knotty dome]

thanks

[civic crag]

I should put para torp on mob and converge torp on boss right

[hollow gust]

just run all parallel

[stuck stirrup]

if you can slow/freeze the boss or it's a relatively static boss run converge, some of the fast moving bosses, converge torps can wiff on though and you'll get more hits out of parallel

[civic crag]

I have b2 lockdown

[civic crag]

I only have one wyvern

[hollow gust]

there are other parallels

[eager mulch]

hate to break it to you, theres more parallel tbs than wyvern

[still rock]

What level are siren strongholds?

[civic crag]

Which are good

[wild oyster]

enemies are lvl 122-128

[eager mulch]

breguet, white vit2, barracuda

[still rock]

Should i get XF5U or Wyvern first? they're equally high priority on samheart

[hollow gust]

you can get both, they only really share electronics

[still rock]

I forgot to type "first" ,,so which one first ?

[hollow gust]

i mean if you can craft wyvern instantly just do it

[sweet merlin]

what is the recomeded tuning for opsi?

[still rock]

I can craft XF5U right now

[still rock]

@hollow gust

[hollow gust]

just waitfor wyvern

either way neither gear are make or break

[novel solstice]

More is better until you hit the cap. But you also get more than enough to hit the cap from doing the first clear on each of the zones, so just attack zones in order from c1 up and by the time you get to the strongholds and such, you'll have them all maxed out.