#gameplay-help

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still rock
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Should i pull for amagi? Theres a collab coming up so im unsure

viscid swift
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collab won't drop until late november most likely

small summit
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Collab with who

novel solstice
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Amagi is very good, definitely worth pulling for. You'll likely have some time to accumulate cubes before the collab.

tame jungle
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To love ru collab

viscid swift
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en moment

warm latch
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another collab to spend all my cubes on, miss a purple ship then quit until en anniversary again

forest palm
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To Luv Ru is a 18 y/o series, not surprised if some haven't heard of it

still rock
viscid swift
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and Amagi CV will still be useful despite that

thin jungle
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Hello, i wanted to ask, how do i level up/ grind levels efficiently. I pushed campaign to map 9. Should i just continue to push? My ships are all Elite and Rare, ~95 levels and i have some purple equip. at +6. What should i do with my ships once they hit level 100? Continue to level them up until 120? 125?

thin jungle
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i meant just in general, outside of event map. i do grind it

rain bobcat
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3 pink hair 2 boing boing and 1 flat

wind hazel
crisp wadi
ember totem
soft raft
thin jungle
soft raft
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Give them a few more lvls (like at least roughly lvl 100 to be safe), put them in dorm, and then grind event or a W9+ stage

warm latch
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w9+ and event d stages has oil cap when youve cleared a stage, you want to use full fleets on oil capped stages

thin jungle
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DorkHeart TY!

gentle swan
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Is there a way to swap which fleet the auto farm uses to do mobs?

weak shell
gentle swan
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Thanks mom

latent crag
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Ive run out of all my cubes.
But umm where is my UR Ship?
182/200 but fortunately I still have about half a month.

eager mulch
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ok

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what are we supposed to do

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or did you come to just complain about your luck

silk helm
latent crag
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Not entirely, because I have been like this several times in a row.
Besides, I would like to ask about the relevant strategies for the new ur ship.

eager mulch
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what relevant strategies

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it’s a UR ship she’s good almost everywhere

half plover
gentle swan
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Should I throw UR purins at Shinano or Mamagi?

ocean fiber
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Question what kind of gun is good for Anchorage

half plover
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correct me guys UniSip

eager mulch
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amagi cv should get the bulins cause you can get shinano dupes from pity

ocean fiber
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Which rainbow guns

eager mulch
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one that’s good against the armor you’re fighting

latent crag
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Okay i see.
Sorry if I made something wrong.

ocean fiber
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There are the only ur guns I have or other items

eager mulch
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idk why you’re showing us your entire depot when you want a gun for anchorage

half plover
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if u manually just ungeared all ur guns PortDoll

ocean fiber
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Better

gentle swan
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Are stats buffs retroactive? say my enty throws a lucky 7, and after that essex launches her planes, while using pirate squad f4u, does the avi buff from those reflect on enty's dmg? Or was the dmg calculated on skill press?

warm latch
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that torp is for manual and that gun is too slow to sync with anything

umbral briar
gentle swan
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So I should time essex before enty

sweet delta
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Pirate squad doesn't buff avi anyways

gentle swan
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Oh it's aa I misread; welp same concept applies, I'll be careful of timings then when needed dead

ocean fiber
warm latch
eager mulch
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or, he could just go to anchorages main gun slot, and see what’s offered

warm latch
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that works too

eager mulch
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idk why we’re going through the entire depot looking for a CA gun

ocean fiber
crisp wadi
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Does bisko oath skin will drop at next mt?

eager mulch
vale spindle
ocean fiber
eager mulch
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that’s a BB gun and it’s dogshit

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literally “Equippable by BBs and BCs”

umbral briar
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i thinks my friend need read guide first

eager mulch
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not even a guide he just needs to open his eyes

viscid swift
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also, upgrade your table and skyraider at least

sweet delta
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Are there enough plates?

ocean fiber
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I mean I could put Guams gun on her….

eager mulch
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you can’t

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literally unable to do so

umbral briar
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I wonder how he has 655 gear slots?

viscid swift
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gems

umbral briar
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i see

soft dagger
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help HelenaPlease

thin haven
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Is Hiei Meta good?

ocean fiber
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Like none of these guns would work?

eager mulch
wide kestrel
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I forgor, do muse and baby ships count to fleet tech?

sweet delta
viscid swift
sweet delta
ocean fiber
eager mulch
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what are the odds unzen is mlb

viscid swift
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my bet would be 0 and you literally have the best gun you have on her already

eager mulch
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somehow, im not optimistic

thin haven
viscid swift
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it's all garbage though because it's plus 0 along with a lot of other very good gear you have

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good gear isn't good if it's +0 rather than +10

sweet delta
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Bro has full +10 gear for his carriers and +0 gear for everyone else

ocean fiber
eager mulch
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cheeky, i may be a prophet LilEnty

viscid swift
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to absolutely no one's shock

thin haven
eager mulch
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what are the odds anchorage is dev 30

viscid swift
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not good odds

still rock
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Does this sync with helena radar scan?

sweet delta
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Depends

umbral briar
sweet delta
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on the carrier's strike timer, not on the single plane itself

eager mulch
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radar scan uni strike UniFlox

still rock
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How do i know when is the planes thingy ready

ocean fiber
still rock
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The timer of it

tame jungle
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With all planes equipped check the gear menu

still rock
tame jungle
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Yes

viscid swift
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sigh

umbral briar
still rock
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dont mind the 12+ plane

tame jungle
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Also +13 or don’t upgrade ur shit

sweet delta
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Sounds like cheeky got a long job

warm latch
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gold plates are very limited, most gear is not worth +11 or higher

still rock
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Anyway will it sync?

viscid swift
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what are you trying to sync to

still rock
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Helena scan

sweet delta
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It'll sync. For one airstrike.

eager mulch
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cheeky what am i looking at

short wagon
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if im at 11-1 1 star rn how long yall thing id take me to hit 12-4

eager mulch
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also

viscid swift
# still rock

ignoring the questionable uses of gold plates
Tenrai isn't +10
Skyraider is in the weaker slot when it does more damage against light and medium armor
for single target this is bad because you're using a barracuda and for campaign this is bad because you have no intercept

cobalt rapids
sweet delta
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PhDs hate this one simple trick, make the CV or BB reload in 20 to 21s and she'll sync with non-SG Helena for at least 5 salvos or airstrikes if battles even last that long

short wagon
viscid swift
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in no circumstances is that loadout even close to being good

cobalt rapids
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yea, but most importantly are ur fleets capable

sweet delta
eager mulch
viscid swift
cobalt rapids
short wagon
cobalt rapids
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sounds more than capable

eager mulch
cobalt rapids
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assuming everythings in order

short wagon
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poverty gear on almost all fo them

cobalt rapids
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good poverty gear will still stomp

whole crypt
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poverty gear is not bad gear

short wagon
cobalt rapids
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then it should be fine KievPray

short wagon
still rock
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The only problem is shinano being almost 24secs

viscid swift
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again, where exactly are you using her

still rock
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Campaign mob clearing

silk helm
viscid swift
still rock
viscid swift
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which stage exactly

still rock
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13-1

viscid swift
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that is dead then

still rock
viscid swift
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some ships are underleveled, you're lacking in AA, and Helena is doing little of value in a mob fleet

whole crypt
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AA looks bad
I'd rather use Independence than Shinano for 13 mob

eager mulch
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heleno

cobalt rapids
viral flicker
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Is it possible for me to get her

viscid swift
cobalt rapids
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it is possible

viral flicker
eager mulch
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luck

still rock
umbral briar
cobalt rapids
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luck

viral flicker
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Show the way

frank pulsar
silk helm
still rock
viscid swift
# viral flicker How

the event lasts for 3 weeks, you still have quite a bit of time to get cubes and coins

viral flicker
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@still rock go make thread

frank pulsar
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maybe ask better questions then

viral flicker
eager mulch
eager mulch
viral flicker
eager mulch
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So yes, it’s luck

viscid swift
# still rock

Mob: FDG, Yorktown 2, Unicorn, Henrich, Yuudachi, Sirius
Boss: NJ, Implacable, Shinano, Agir, Helena, San Diego

cobalt rapids
whole crypt
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eh he's at 74 builds so thats 246 cubes, it's not impossible ShiSleep

eager mulch
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How can someone get. 246 cubes in 2.5 weeks

cobalt rapids
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246 coobs in 3 weeks is tight but maybe possible

whole crypt
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yeh it's not likely, but it's not impossible

silk helm
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possible with luck

viscid swift
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I doubt it

frank pulsar
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246 cubes in 3 weeks is insane wdym tight

umbral briar
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this event 3 weeks?

viscid swift
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250ish cubes in a month is already pretty active, that in 3 weeks is uh yeah

eager mulch
little tree
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Is dev 30 Marco polo a good Nelson replacement in a bb boss fleet ?

cobalt rapids
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the monthly login cubes are loaded at end of month

umbral briar
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wow i thinks like usual event 2weeks

whole crypt
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it's going to be a lot of long comms and maybe trying your luck grabbing from OS stars if there's any left

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if just regular guarantees and normal comms then probably not

cobalt rapids
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theres also some wa's

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could be impossible could be not, either way worth trying

whole crypt
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well as many cubes as possible, may not need pity anyway

eager mulch
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he could possibly get her in his last 6 cubes

cobalt rapids
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could

viscid swift
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not right now with 206 coins

whole crypt
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it's not too bad there's about 3.6% chance EssexWheeze

eager mulch
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i like those odds

umbral briar
whole crypt
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which is why you just keep playing and saving consistently to beat RNGesus's face in

umbral briar
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how many times can a UR Banner occur in a year?

still rock
whole crypt
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4 new each year

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it could be

umbral briar
eager mulch
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I’d feel like “new” implies no reruns

umbral briar
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damn thats a lot if i miss one

viscid swift
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not that'll matter too much assuming everything is competently geared and leveled

still rock
eager mulch
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i mean, this is campaign, you want stagger right

viscid swift
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everyone in fact

still rock
viscid swift
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level 115 should be the minimum, as well as +10 gear

still rock
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The mob fleet cant deal with planes

dusk spoke
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im a idiot and i cant figure out how too swap a ship out in siren?

eager mulch
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Blue port > orders > fleet formation

still rock
warm latch
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expected result of using level 90 on w13 lethal

viscid swift
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I said wait to get everyone leveled before trying W13.....

eager mulch
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you can lead a cooper horse to water but you can’t make them drink

sweet delta
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I think the correct idiom has the horse drinking before it was led to water

eager mulch
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Nuh uh

still rock
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At what point of the game should i start doing operation siren

rain vine
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as soon as you unlock it

hushed delta
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are there any "rare" drop in these D1-3 event maps? I mean ships like Akatsuki, Agano, Ooshio, etc,etc. Any leaks to these maps' ships drops?

forest palm
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map drop tables should already be on the wiki, either way you just farm D3

viscid swift
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Hiei drops from one of them at least

hushed delta
# forest palm map drop tables should already be on the wiki, either way you just farm D3

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Ode_of_Everblooming_Crimson can't see it at all, it looks to still be under construction

Azur Lane Wiki

Ode of Everblooming Crimson is a major Sakura Empire-themed event featuring five new shipgirls, the fourth event to feature an event gacha META shipgirl. A total of nine new Theme Park and Party-themed skins have been added, and a new Sakura Empire furniture set and new equipment skins are introduced.
Also featured are six Normal maps, six Hard ...

keen sable
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they're not but datamine should. wait an hour for wiki

forest palm
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check the datamine in the pins then

hushed delta
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ok I'll surf a bit through the pins

viscid swift
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datamine doesn't have ship drops

eager mulch
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datamine has ship drops?

hushed delta
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well nevermind then

keen sable
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oh ok wait an hour then BuckyPrideZoom

hushed delta
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how do you know it's in 1 hour? sussy

boreal wagon
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bc they edit the wiki among others

hushed delta
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at a set time every week?

boreal wagon
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no, unique is likely hinting at the fact that unique will update it themselves in an hour

hushed delta
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hehe, an insider I see OwariWOKE

ebon verge
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is maryland retrofit good?

pulsar heart
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any chapayev fleet recs?

eager mulch
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You build fleets for content not around specific ships

pulsar heart
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yeah but if I wanna use chapayev who do i use her with

viscid swift
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she doesn't need anyone in particular

keen sable
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for the best chappy use bad to terrible ships

tropic tusk
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hi could anyone help me build a team for nagato meta?

wary timber
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So not long ago I built this gun and had Bismarck equip it. Is this a good secondary gun just for Bismarck

silk sphinx
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^maybe

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@tropic tusk

tropic tusk
silk sphinx
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Apparently an amagi comp is being cooked

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The ingredients aren’t all done yet though

sweet delta
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amagi fleets will oneshot left and right (with high tech)

hollow gust
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~7 more days till shes maxed

tropic tusk
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i cant copy them

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all team they made i miss like 1-2

calm cradle
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Do we know if the 1-fight to 100% a stage that we have this event will be the new norm going forward?

forest palm
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it's the norm

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well new norm

wary timber
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can floatcats ... passive intercept

calm cradle
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Great, thanks

ionic bramble
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what IJN vanguards for CV Amagi?

still rock
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What should i do other than doing campaign

forest palm
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ops

still rock
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Isn't ops endgame content

forest palm
warm latch
sweet delta
soft raft
still rock
forest palm
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end game is just tech grinding, and cat resetting

tropic tusk
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and thats if u play daily and tryhard

keen sable
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that's a really awful tryharder AmagiLaugh

tropic tusk
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oh u can do it shorter then 3 years?

keen sable
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definitely

tropic tusk
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Glowow so i still have 3 more years to go

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i feel like i have bad gear tbh wht do u think about my gears?

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should i now go for torp first? or anti air first?

warm latch
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gold quad mag torps are better than those ones

tropic tusk
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which one

soft raft
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the german ones

warm latch
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the one from german tech box

tropic tusk
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and not the rainbow one?

warm latch
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theyre basically the same strength as the rainbow one

soft raft
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rainbow quint is about equivalent to the gold quad fwiw

tropic tusk
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oh

umbral briar
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with more expensive to spend material

tropic tusk
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this whole time i have been aiming for the rainbow one

tropic tusk
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how about anti air?

warm latch
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aa is more complicated to explain, but just because gear is rainbow doesnt mean you should use it

gentle swan
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Helo again, I'm a returning player; been away for 2-3 years and just cane back. I insta pulled on the new banner and got everything I wanted. Should I start saving, or should I be pulling on the standard banners to get a better roaster?

I posted my dock in a thread here, I'll try getting a link to it

warm latch
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gear can be situational

gentle swan
soft raft
warm latch
gentle swan
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Ok, thanks

tropic tusk
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she can now equip 2 gun right?

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how come i cant see the option for it?

forest palm
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it's the AA Gun slot

soft raft
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  1. It's not on her torp slot
  2. Try scrolling down on the AA slot
forest palm
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there's literally one right there on the screen, Baltimore Gun sayuwuLul

tropic tusk
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oh wait im blind mb lol

gentle swan
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Are guids relevant?

soft raft
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they're your main source of guild tokens

tropic tusk
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so i guess she needs 2 of these?

forest palm
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not necessarily

tropic tusk
forest palm
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it depends

tropic tusk
soft raft
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It Depends

forest palm
tropic tusk
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say opsi

forest palm
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if it's just Ops mobbing, the first, or second builds work, a mix of either also works, bossing depends on armor type mind you

tropic tusk
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is there a no need to think build?

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the 203 mm is a research right?

still rock
tropic tusk
mystic topaz
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about fleet tech..

does it count each and every ship you get or only unique ships you get?

atomic abyss
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it's like a milestone system, so unique ships

soft raft
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unique
this applies to tech points as well

mystic topaz
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ok thanks

tropic tusk
stark quiver
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first gun in which

tropic tusk
soft raft
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pr6

stark quiver
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its from the same season youve been doing

atomic abyss
tropic tusk
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oh ok thx looks like i have to spam pr6 again

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i should go for these instead right?

atomic abyss
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well, the PR6 one specifically, aka the left one, but yes

tropic tusk
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ok thx

forest palm
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Proto Triple 203 SKC → PR6 research only
Triple 234 → PR3 research(not recommended) + proto shop + gear lab
Triple 203/55 → locked to Unzen's event
ShiSleep

tropic tusk
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i never even seen this one yet

rugged summit
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Is maryland retrofit any good?

forest palm
tropic tusk
gentle swan
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How do you get a bunch of faction points quickly? I need ironblood to get started on FDG, read I need to spam something something chessboard in the war archives; but what actually gives me points? Leveling them up?

elfin hollow
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Which one should i limit break

gentle swan
tropic tusk
warm latch
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never spread your bulins like that, you alwasy want to max limi break your ships

atomic abyss
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/fleettech

odd rootBOT
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Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

  1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
  2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
  3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

elfin hollow
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I have 3 sr bulins

warm latch
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mlb ships are way better than non mlb ships

tropic tusk
elfin hollow
atomic abyss
gentle swan
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Saw, thanks yall

elfin hollow
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Wait whats the max for fleet tech like what level

keen crypt
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What’s the best way to grind for coin if there isn’t any?

vale spindle
atomic abyss
warm latch
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12-4, 13-4 or you can do d3 during event (worse coin but gives you event points)

elfin hollow
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unless if he has sandy

blazing shale
atomic abyss
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old player =/= good player

keen crypt
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lol I’m at 8-4, procrasinated main story for 4 years MurmWat

vale spindle
keen crypt
elfin hollow
blazing shale
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oh then 12-4 is better 4 u

keen crypt
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I’m at 8-4 with this dock

forest palm
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literally farm D-3

vale spindle
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MutsukiHyperStare go push to world 12

half plover
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what are your early impressions of watarase?

elfin hollow
tropic tusk
keen crypt
atomic abyss
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yes

elfin hollow
tropic tusk
elfin hollow
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also you can farm that japanese torpedo bomber which is the best besides the wyvern

warm latch
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d3 up to however many points you feel is worth it, then you really need to try and progress story

atomic abyss
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at least 30k

warm latch
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you dont even have oil capped story stages yet because youre not past w9

keen crypt
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Yea the only reason why I procrastinated the story for long was because of the stars, but since they fixed that, I prob will

blazing shale
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d3 capped though, no?

blazing shale
keen crypt
hollow gust
atomic abyss
keen crypt
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FML

elfin hollow
elfin hollow
hollow gust
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YorkBruh Sandy is free

little tree
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Sandy Cheshire

hollow gust
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Cheshire Ehhssex , what a waste of time

elfin hollow
elfin hollow
atomic abyss
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/oilcap

little tree
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Im doing Cheshire casue i need to for newcomer Mission

hollow gust
warm latch
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it caps the oil you use so its cheaper to farm on them and you get more rewards for it

keen crypt
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I have enough oil for now including the one in the storage

warm latch
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oil can still run out very quickly

elfin hollow
hollow gust
elfin hollow
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I already have haku indomable independence unicorn

hollow gust
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Idk what you have YorkBruh

elfin hollow
hollow gust
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You only need 1 aa carry in w13, Sandy is more then enough for boss , for mob triple CVs cover for aa

elfin hollow
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Just give me the ideal fleet in picture im a visual learner YorkBruh

stark quiver
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/w15

odd rootBOT
hollow gust
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Or just post your dock in a thread

stark quiver
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here you go ideal w13 fleet

elfin hollow
warm latch
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if it works in 15 itll work in 13

hollow gust
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Like this is useless for you

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So if you want fleet building help , post your own dock

stark quiver
elfin hollow
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Yeah imma finish fate simulation on haku to later finish with shimato

hollow gust
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That's some serioious issues if you need shimato and Sandy in w13

elfin hollow
little tree
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how is 13H comapre to W14 or W15 easier or harder?

coarse heron
stark quiver
forest palm
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a 15 fleet would work for 13H ShiSleep

tropic tusk
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is akagi CV = akagi and amagi U = amagi? for the event mission

eager mulch
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no

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it has to be the one specified in the mission

tropic tusk
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ok

remote yarrow
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And you flipped their names around CheshireXD

eager mulch
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smo0tie didn’t get akagi CV or amagi mu apparently smolmagisleep

remote yarrow
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Dangit TorricelliSad

tropic tusk
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oh yea i flip them xD mb

elfin hollow
half plover
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for the sp stage what is a good team to lowcost? I have no idea if this is enough and I kinda doubt it

stark quiver
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its sp just press advioce

remote yarrow
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Low cost

half plover
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that will be so expensive

remote yarrow
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I used Uni + Unzen and Ply + Alsace UniSip

coarse heron
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You have to be spending more than 1000 oil for SP to cost more than a single run of D3 on an oil per point basis

worldly pewter
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uni tai yuan alsace tank

coarse heron
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So it literally doesn't matter who to pick and low costing it is a waste of time

atomic abyss
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or floxing

coarse heron
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just pick 12 ships you want to get some free XP

worldly pewter
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low costing sp has a strong impact on the currency / oil

half plover
weary gust
half plover
atomic abyss
coarse heron
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You gain about 1 overnight comm worth of oil AkagiLUL

half plover
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if it is every day for a setup which takes like 3min I would take it

worldly pewter
half plover
coarse heron
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I realized I can save 50 oil per run by just running dual Mahans and Unicorn for mob fleet in D3 though AkagiLUL

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had to absolutely stuff the boss fleet to meet requirements though

stark quiver
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i realized i dont play enough to rly care abt oil eff

half plover
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this should work, right

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or would this overkill?

coarse heron
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Hiei Meta still hasn't dropped for me so until she does D3 oil efficiency actually kind of matters

forest palm
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Uni + Laffii | BZ + Ply worked for me

half plover
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yeah no bz and ply yet

worldly pewter
soft raft
warm latch
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you get more rewards for being oil capped

forest palm
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doesn't even have to be BZ, and Ply sayuwuLul

coarse heron
#

I timed it, most of the time spent on D3 is waiting for load screens and animations to play, regardless of fleet

warm latch
#

so you spend less oil, but you get almost no coins in return

coarse heron
#

and just like that she dropped, gottem

half plover
#

sp doesnt have an oil cap so that's why lowcosting is important for me, for d3 I still just throw everything in I want to level haha

coarse heron
#

You're acting like clearing rewards don't still exist Ehhssex

#

clearing rewards apply even without oil cap

half plover
#

but it makes a difference if u spend 530 oil to clear a stage or 240

warm latch
#

oh is that sp

half plover
#

I am doing sp, vord did d3

warm latch
#

i see now

coarse heron
#

yeah and you still get clearing rewards even if you're not hitting oil cap, so I'm not getting less coins.

warm latch
#

i saw d3 and got it mixed up

half plover
inner delta
#

if you want to go bellow oil cap at least do b1 instead

coarse heron
#

like I said I was only doing it until Hiei Meta dropped and now that she has it's whatever

coarse heron
#

she literally dropped during this convo which was very funny

#

looked over and "oh I guess I don't need to do it anymore"

half plover
#

so are u ignoring the event from now on or low costing other stage instead?

coarse heron
#

no I'm running full fleet on D3 now AkagiLUL

#

also going to time how long it takes to see if there's a measurable difference

#

or if most of it is still just loading animations

atomic abyss
#

not here, reddit perhaps

half plover
#

btw just for reference: the advice full fleet would take me 589 oil and I cleared it with 247 oil now so that is 342 oil saved

#

which is more than a regular overnight commission 😭

forest palm
atomic abyss
#

you basically have to guess yes

coarse heron
#

what a shocker, there's no difference in using a full fleet because Unicorn is doing 98% of the damage anyway with her preload YorkBruh

gentle swan
#

Can I not change my formations in operation siren? I'm in a port, but for the life of me I cannot figure it out

soft raft
gentle swan
#

Oh I clicked every button other than Order, thanks

sweet delta
#

other than Order and the help menu

gentle swan
#

Does morale decrease in op siren?

keen sable
gentle swan
dusk spoke
#

for the event credits does it matter if i do destroy more escort fleets per clear or just focus the boss once ive got it 3 stars?

hollow gust
#

Just let it auto

dusk spoke
#

the oil costs are bankrupting me tho

hollow gust
#

D3 is oil capped

keen sable
#

use less ships?

hollow gust
#

Also you have 3 weeks , take your time

keen sable
#

assuming you're stuck on normal...

dusk spoke
#

ive got a good way into hard just dont have the combined lvls yet too continue

#

ive got the meta hiei soo im happy eitherway

keen sable
#

the best strategy is to sweep daily bonus and get xp from somewhere else until you can do D1

hollow gust
#

You still have to buy limitbreaks for Hiei , Cogs , arrays and prints

stark quiver
#

are all future event stages going follow this event format?

tame jungle
#

and how would we know? i mean, hopefully but i doubt we have any confirmation

sweet delta
#

Idk maybe an anni stream said it

coarse heron
#

crystal ball says "Use code AzurLane to save 10% on french fries"

wary timber
#

Does the floatplane bearcat passive intercept

sweet delta
#

Yes but that doesn't mean halford has good AA (she doesn't)

wary timber
#

I don't have a Halford yet

soft raft
#

she's like the only relevant ship that'll use it
Maybe the empery carriers but they're just tech fodder

wary timber
#

I do intend to screw around with BBVs

haughty dust
#

Farming xp for Prinz Rupy. should I switch the positions of any of the Vanguard ships in this formation? I’ll be working on the actual gear in just a little bit.

gentle swan
#

Anything I should be aware of? Can I just shove my best bossing comp?

haughty dust
#

I mean since I’m just trying to level those vanguard ships up

glacial widget
#

when you're inspecting gear, what does "Damage Modifier" mean?

sweet delta
#

It's called the coefficient in the wiki

#

/wiki battleship guns

odd rootBOT
glacial widget
sweet delta
glacial widget
#

makes sense, ty ty

blazing shale
#

Is there no event gear for Amagi?

atomic abyss
atomic abyss
#

ryuusei

#

but it's not even the highest damaging converging TB anymore anyways

coarse heron
#

instead of event gear, we get gear skins WarShrug

atomic abyss
#

what conv TB you use depends on the timing you want to hit anyways

coarse heron
#

what if you don't want to calculate timing, just use parallel? AkagiLUL

atomic abyss
#

pray

sweet delta
#

just lose

fluid brook
atomic abyss
#

the vit 2 mode change from pr7 (blue colour not white)

fluid brook
#

thanks

atomic abyss
#

not to be confused with the white VIT 2 from PR5, which is a parallel TB

blazing shale
#

Are there possible fleet formations & use cases/builds with Amagi out yet?

viscid swift
#

she's one of the best for Nagato META

atomic abyss
#

theoretically, yes

#

theoretically you replace hakuryuu with her in the standard impla-haku-nano comp

#

if you dont need a slower at all, you can even meme the full triple IJN UR CV

#

which does work for nagameta
...up till your last airstrike - so you may want to use eld kai

#

or you can just heck care and use unzen

topaz smelt
#

Eld you might need full oaths and high roll

fervent hearth
#

whats the pin for the helena extreme boss guide?

stark quiver
gentle swan
#

Is there a priority list for those? I've looked in the samheart guide but couldn't find anything

atomic abyss
haughty dust
#

How do you clear out a preset? I accidentally made two presets of the same gear and now I need to reset one to no slots so it can be used for something else. But not sure how to clear out the second one and keep the first

atomic abyss
#

press unequip all and override the save

haughty dust
#

Also is there a way to name presets or loadouts you create?

#

Can you give the presets or loadouts a name though? If so how?

keen sable
#

save them(the loadout code) in a database

gaunt dagger
#

do explosion ships deal damage based on their health? also what does efficiency do?

pseudo hearth
#

How long till Jintsuu Meta gets added to the permanent META stuff?

supple canopy
#

who's stronger? shinano or amagi cv?
I WUB FLOOFS

spring bolt
spring bolt
supple canopy
#

my shinano has all the rainbow event planes 😦 . amagi has 0

spring bolt
#

on paper calculation simply do math with best equips possible against same target

topaz smelt
#

in reality, amagis too fast so you often have to sac something in the fleet for timing, but shes still prob the strongest

spring bolt
#

i guess it's the trend, as new planes are getting slower, like la9 and new vit-2, devs are probably making new cvs faster so that's how they "outperform" old ones

supple canopy
#

i probs need to do op si more for the stronger planes

wispy pendant
#

What are some ex tips?

supple canopy
#

i dont play that enough for my ships to survive w15

sleek vault
#

Which meowciffers to use for planes?

stark quiver
stark quiver
#

dis ex hella hard ngl

#

unless you master dodging

spring bolt
#

the weak version of ex is just a meta like boss. use your best anti medium ships and auto it

stark quiver
#

well weak version is basically like everyother ex

woeful sluice
#

What stage to farm in the event if I can't clear D1?

stark quiver
#

C2

woeful sluice
keen sable
woeful sluice
haughty dust
#

Is there a walkthrough video somewhere on how to do the daily sub raids. Still working on the gear for subs atm but still confused how you beat it since you cannot put it on auto mode.

keen sable
forest palm
haughty dust
#

huh?

haughty dust
#

like which ones? Right now I know i have at least three of the necessary IB subs that are the best choice but I do not have enough gear for them or not mlb yet

forest palm
#

any really

haughty dust
forest palm
#

55 is fine

#

you're goal is to get the Purple US torp for bidders, so it works out

#

but either way this is how you cheese sub raids

#

no matter the difficulty

haughty dust
#

gotcha

spring bolt
#

Sailing Frigates (Submarine)

haughty dust
#

well I only have two of those and they are not mlb yet

keen sable
#

i'm surprised you can auto with subs NagaThonk

haughty dust
#

The three I have currently are u-47, 96, and 37 but I just do not have enough gear built up yet

keen sable
#

but i guess you can't since you're stuck

haughty dust
digital vault
#

Is there a short summary of Amagi CV's kit?

haughty dust
#

but only up to the level 55 one

keen sable
#

oh you're ok with manual to clear?

spring bolt
grizzled sundial
#

So ship that have fast reload on first strike , would they revert to average ship after they get theirs first shot off unlike ships that have buffs to theirs RLD ?

spring bolt
#

not sure what do you mean... preload?

carmine oxide
#

how good is the composition? do i need to change something?

spring bolt
#

after preload airstrike, they just load airstrikes like normal carriers

digital vault
#

Does amagi's first skill apply only to her fleet?

#

Hmm, that's mid

grizzled sundial
#

Like the case of IB Seldyt or whatever her name , she got fast reload on first strike but the rest of her skill is not great , tank is irrelevant if the entire fleet kill the enemy fast yet people rank her high

eager mulch
#

amagi CV mid?

spring bolt
#

mid or heavy

keen sable
grizzled sundial
#

Yeah , and 2 skills is kinda irrelevant if you either kill the enemy fast so they don't harm your fleet much or just heal

keen sable
#

i wouldn't call +20% dmg buff irrelevant. you know amagii only gets 13% on average and 18% max

topaz smelt
#

is it that low on avg?

keen sable
#

that's average 90. idk real average

topaz smelt
#

isnt 90 like the line?

keen sable
#

around it's like where gascogne D30 hits?

topaz smelt
#

fdg proc is 85

spring bolt
#

biscuit aux is exactly 90

#

iirc it doesn't reach the line, right? or exactly the line?

topaz smelt
#

i dont rmbr exactly, i wanna say just before it but who uses bis anymore

spring bolt
#

true DunktsukiStare

topaz smelt
#

and off flaging amagi will give her a bit more distance

still rock
#

are the fleets for ops different from campaign mob fleets

novel solstice
#

For opsi mobbing I generally do unicorn for heals, plus five ships that want some xp. Unicorn can keep a bunch of junk alive very effectively.

It's not the fastest way to clear things, but it does gradually level up a lot of ships.

still rock
tame jungle
#

it's xp you don't have to spend oil for

spring bolt
#

normal opsi mob fleet is just using preload/half preload carriers to get fast clears

#

most popular comp is probably uni+aquila+any half preload carrier, plus 3 strong vanguards so this fleet can solo strongholds

forest palm
#

I just use Percy + Musashi + NJ ShiSleep

topaz smelt
#

i just corpse drag until it sinks

novel solstice
#

As someone else just said, it's free XP. Zero oil spent, and I'm going to be running those maps anyway, so it's just free.

If you want to clear maps fast in opsi, you do unicorn and five huge damage dealers that are maxed out including at least one preload, and enemies just melt away. But I hate wasting XP, even if most of my ships are stuck waiting for cog chips.

eager mulch
spring bolt
#

well one day you will run out ships that need exp, starting with backlines BuckyPride

topaz smelt
#

ive been long out of backlines, shitter meta skills arent gonna level themselves tho

spring bolt
#

i just passively raise their skill to lv9 and slap skill books on them to lv10

forest palm
#

except they will

#

I've ignored most SR Meta, and they're level 10, the SSR take more finesse ShiWoke

topaz smelt
#

ok its slow af tbf

spring bolt
#

well, you don't use them anyway so who cares lol

topaz smelt
#

ive gotta test run them atleast

spring bolt
#

don't you have the ||something something|| so you can do whatever you want there?

topaz smelt
#

not for campaign

spring bolt
#

well, then i guess good news is that there is no switching costs after 24h

topaz smelt
#

any consistent cn comps for this meta?

vale spindle
#

jimmy's youtube posted a 7/10 success rate comp today

topaz smelt
#

i need some inspiration as nothing ive tried thats worked too consistently

#

link?

#

is it that soy comp?

#

i was cooking with him earlier today but i couldnt replicate those results

hushed delta
#

uno question pls. Will Hiei Meta "mlb crystals" be added to the meta store as soon as the event ends? I can't remember if that happened with bearn meta, if it was an instant adding or it took them a while

topaz smelt
#

its usually added after the event ends

viscid swift
#

shouldn't be any longer than a week

#

I would just buy them with event points though

hushed delta
#

asap? because II prefer to spend those blue crystals that I have by the hundreds than farm 6k events points now

viscid swift
#

one, the event lasts 3 weeks so you have plenty of time to farm

topaz smelt
#

youre gonna clear most of the shop anyways chasing milestone rewards

viscid swift
#

two, we still have no idea how they're gonna make Cruise Pass METAs permanently available and the META shop seems like one of the more likely options

hushed delta
viscid swift
#

also, daily missions, SP, and daily first clear bonus on normal maps will net you 44k event points over the duration of the event alone

hushed delta
#

I'm not a tech addict yet, I'm still enjoying the game no offense

viscid swift
#

uhhh

sweet delta
#

^ above me is a tech addict who enjoys the game

hushed delta
#

okok, I didn't mean that you are not enjoying it, I mean I'm still in the phase of enjoying the little things, leveling the ships I want only, retrofitting for collection, such non-endgame things

viscid swift
#

well cruise pass METAs still count for collection

#

and again, no telling how much they'll cost or how they're being reobtained

#

why take the risk is what I'm saying when an additional 8k event points over 2.5 weeks is not a huge ask in the slightest

hushed delta
#

okok, yes 3 weeks should be enough, thx, good nighties

still rock
stark quiver
#

enterprise

viscid swift
#

in addition to the ships I reccomended for W13

eternal basalt
sinful elk
#

Chat is amagi cv better than shinano ( i can mlb only one of them )

viscid swift
#

no to the better but I would MLB Amagi CV first if you're done with event pulls

eager mulch
forest palm
eager mulch
lone knoll
#

is it worth to do normal stages once per day? how much does b3 give?

eager mulch
#

80 iirc so 240 with bonus, worth is relative, totally ignorable

lone knoll
#

ok ill just ignore it then

spring bolt
#

if you can reduce your fleet cost to 10, or even 3-4, then it's worth it

eager mulch
#

too much hassle, D3 go brrr

lone knoll
eager mulch
#

any sakura empire main fleet ship

spring bolt
#

backlines

soft raft
#

BB/BC/CV/CVL

spring topaz
#

any reason not to just start crafting everything i can? maybe space or cost or competing components for better crafts?

eager mulch
#

AR

soft raft
#

CA/CL/DD/CB is vanguard

And Submarines count for jack shit

eager mulch
#

BB/BC/BBV/CV/CVL/AR from Sakura Empire

spring bolt
vital phoenix
#

What aircraft is best against different armor types? I know torpedo bomber is best against heavy but what about dive bombers? And fighters?

eager mulch
#

if only it were that shrimple

#

most fighters and all but one dive bomber are best against heavy

spring topaz
eager mulch
#

certain fighters and that one dive bomber have rockets that are good against light and medium armor

keen sable
#

a click saved is a click earned

forest palm
#

why is Amagi so fast ShiWoke

stuck stirrup
eager mulch
#

^fast amagi

tall mauve
forest palm
#

clearly need to remove 2 frames

keen sable
#

paired with akaga

eager mulch
#

smolmagihyperdance <- fast amagi-chan

spring bolt
spring topaz
#

Fill out ships i dont use with "something" for fun missions

#

But no, save save save

keen sable
#

more like you can't make good stuff if you wasted all your money on bad stuff

ember swan
#

chat i got amagi at 130 pull, do we keep going or nah

late flame
#

save

keen sable
ember swan
#

just making sure

#

how good is she

hollow gust
#

She is a UR

ember swan
#

true but im pretty new and i just dont really get the criteria of a good character

agile peak
#

She hav rainbow Ehhssex

exotic wren
#

Rainbow good

hollow tartan
#

Can anyone help me make teams for chapter 14? I’ve recently came back again to the game and have no idea what to use

viscid swift
#

start a thread and post your URs and SRs

sinful escarp
#

if its a rainbow then keep it, except for rainbow bullin because its an limit break material
for the others might as well keep 1 copy

lone knoll
#

is this plane worth to build? saw on the guide that its a good coverging one(I have 0 gold planes)

hollow tartan
#

Omg I gotta sit for ages and write them all down Jesus, Ty for the help. I’m gonna do that tomorrow as I’m in bed rn and it will take to long

viscid swift
hollow tartan
keen sable
#

if you tried to make a thread and it said you can't post pics you need to create the thread first then post pics

left cedar
#

yo, how gud XP in new event ?
still similar to W9 ?

keen sable
#

9 sucks

viscid swift
spring topaz
#

What about tech boxes? Should I open those or do I need to save them too

hollow tartan
#

My Ships

keen sable
spring topaz
#

All tiers?

#

They can't be combined or upgraded or used to make other gear?

keen sable
#

ehh sure? combine to purple if you still need gear. otherwise...

#

they can be used to make guaranteed bad gear

spring topaz
#

As in no good gear drops from purple boxes?

#

Only t4 is with opening?

keen sable
#

no you asked if you could use boxes to make gear and you can. but the gear is guaranteed to be bad for you

#

just pretend you can't use boxes to make gear

spring topaz
#

Ah

keen sable
keen sable
spring topaz
#

Cool. So open gray to sell and maybe combine blue to purple and open

keen sable
#

no

spring topaz
#

Is there a "gear that can be safely disassembled tier list" of some kind

keen sable
#

either you sell or you open

spring topaz
#

Or if its not in the spreadsheet sheet it can be sold

keen sable
#

if you need gear, you need to combine up to purple. If you don't need gear, honestly do nothing but you can sell for coin if that's what you really want to do. I'm pretty sure you'll get tired of it after like 10 seconds.

spring topaz
#

So just leave 100s of boxes in my inventory

keen sable
#

yes like this

slow fox
#

Yesterday I opened 10k boxes.

finite crag
#

how much gold did you get

slow fox
#

I think it earns more money per time than 12-4.

#

10 gold per box

finite crag
#

that does seem worth it

keen sable
slow fox
finite crag
#

so nothing different from normal azur lane gameplay?

keen sable
#

if you're tapping 12 more than a few times for results you're doing something wrong

slow fox
#

Yes, but you can leave 12-4 on while you do other things, other than playing BoxOpener25

viscid swift
#

nah, normal Azur Lane gameplay is watching anime while stuff autos in the background

finite crag
#

who said im tapping anything :)

late flame
#

i used to bribe my nice to do it until she sold my +13 ryuusei by accident

mystic acorn
#

which one is more expensive to mass produce?
Flapjack or Tigercat?

keen sable
#

what does scrapping gear password do?

late flame
#

to annoy you

keen sable
#

it doesn't stop +13 ryuusei scrapping?

weary gust
#

They're basically the same but use different components. I'd say flapjack is a bit more costly because of the weapons ordinance prints, though I think tigercat uses more superconductors

late flame
mystic acorn
#

but normally you'd want to use SR Ordinance into UR huh

late flame
#

maybe password scrap would have helped me

sweet merlin
#

Is it possible to set auto search to switch between mob and boss fleets in opsi

rugged summit
#

mlb mogador or vanguard?

mystic topaz
#

what are the secrets tickets used for?

viscid swift
#

they're used to get secrets, a roughly 5 minute ASMR

fossil shard
elfin hollow
sharp socket
#

naval curry reskin

elfin hollow
#

They will eventually revert back to curry after some time.

mystic topaz
#

has anyone ever worked out how much each item in the shop cost relative to each other?

timid moon
#

too vague

viscid swift
#

what shop and what items

timid moon
#

yea lmao

mystic topaz
#

let's say rainbow skill book

keen sable
#

food yes

viscid swift
#

there's only one shop that sells rainbow skill books

#

the OpSi exchange shop

storm heron
#

I heard food is cheaper when you use gold to buy them

#

esp when it is 70% off

white herald
#

uhh who should I lb next I have york ii, implac, Mogador, vanguard, laffey ii or sovetsky cuz I ran out of ideas

blissful hamlet
#

there's food guide MutsukiHyperStare

blissful hamlet
versed swift
#

Quick question 🙂

white herald
versed swift
#

Does anyone know when alsace will be on the banners again?

white herald
stark quiver
#

in 2 years

viscid swift
versed swift
#

You're all kidding right?

viscid swift
#

nope, she literally just released this past May

white herald
#

yes musashi didn’t come this year lol or idk I lost track

versed swift
#

I hate myself

viscid swift
#

and turn around time for events is in excess of 2 years at this point

versed swift
#

That's unfortunate

finite crag
#

truely is

white herald
stark quiver
#

how much spec core do you have

blissful hamlet
#

sandy bullying

white herald
#

like 930 lol

#

just spent mine for alsace

eager mulch
#

is that tictac dealer?

white herald
stark quiver
#

then dony worry about it

viscid swift
#

after that well we'll see

white herald
versed swift
#

Wait alsace is ur?

viscid swift
#

yes

versed swift
#

Fml

stark quiver
#

those ship names are crazy btw

white herald
#

yeah she’s a superior baguette

versed swift
#

Oui oui

white herald
#

musashi former name was yamato, anyway time to head off

lament zodiac
#

What to do with leftover ssr? I got akagi, she already max star, and i got another akagi

Is retire is the best option?

stark quiver
#

yes
or you can keep her for fleet power

lament zodiac
#

Oh you can put multiple same unit in 1 party?

viscid swift
#

no

stark quiver
#

fleet power, the profile one

lament zodiac
#

I dont know whats that lol sorry still new here, but it just for profile thing right?

Guess i just retire her then

stark quiver
#

yea thats the better option

coarse heron
#

finally bothered to finish Project TB
got the bad ending
Guess I suck at it EssexWheeze
Is there any guides to it or is it that unloved that nobody bothered with that

stark quiver
#

go on threads and search up tb

queen jackal
#

anyone i should bother using cog array on besides shina?

stark quiver
#

not for now

sweet delta
#

How much do you have

queen jackal
#

300 lol

sweet delta
#

So Shinano only

queen jackal
#

yea i figured id leave everyone else at 120

stark quiver
#

i woulnt 125 anyone unless you rly need to

queen jackal
#

how come

stark quiver
#

its scarce , the arrays

queen jackal
#

oh ye thats why i asked to see if there were any safe picks to 125, figured shinano and unic were alright to 125 and leave everyone else 120

keen sable
heady jasper
#

Alright bois who to get here

lament zodiac
stark quiver
finite crag
plain saffron
#

3-4 is not a good place to farm

heady jasper
plain saffron
#

amagi CV

finite crag
#

amagi

eager mulch
#

amagi CV

heady jasper
#

400 cubes to guarantee right

stark quiver
#

yea

plain saffron
#

yes

eager mulch
#

ye

heady jasper
#

Shes good? Like super?

stark quiver
#

UR good

plain saffron
#

any gacha UR is good

heady jasper
#

I mean as in, good for all content?

eager mulch
#

ye

heady jasper
#

Im not guarantee but i'll try anyway

plain saffron
#

it's rare to hit pity

heady jasper
crisp estuary
heady jasper
#

What can i say?

crisp estuary
plain saffron
#

why doubted me

stark quiver
heady jasper
stark quiver
#

anyways, gratz

crisp estuary
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Also, is Amagi still great without her best fleet? Like I could be doing ch 15 with Soyuz Amagi Yorktown and do fine for example?

plain saffron
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now bench her until you get 4 UR Bulins

eager mulch
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what is amagi best fleet

crisp estuary
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Aight. But since Alsace is only missing one UR bulin she will have to wait

narrow storm
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How good is Kasumi meta for beginners?

plain saffron
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did they fix new UI yet, i want to switch to it

exotic wren
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Didn't they release a small patch yesterday? 56mb smth?

late flame
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been using it fine without issues thus far

keen sable
cerulean hinge
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Are there any decent/good Meta Ships I can work on next in the Dossier List?

austere hearth
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Can anyone help make new team

wet prairie
soft raft
north forge
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did anyone figure out the Shiranui box drop? Sounds like it's just a collectible, but I'd like one

wet prairie
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Shiranui box drop?

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You mean her augment? That’s crafted and it’s not worth the rss

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How’s ibuki with her new aug?

rain bobcat
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good burst

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more dps than unzen in the first 30s or so but gets overtaken

wet prairie
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Damn

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time to ditch shima for ibuki in my opsi mob insta delete fleet

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Don’t need tanks when you obliterate the enemy before they hit youPortDoll charmstupidvv

north forge
sleek spade
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Is there a way to get skyraider other than york II’s event?

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If there’s a rerun, will there be just 1 skyraider?

soft raft
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nope and yes respectively

sleek spade
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Sad

spring topaz
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is there a basic guideline for choosing which skills to level up? I've just been plugging whateer I left going last time I played and just finished a level 10 skill on warspite lol probably should pick a better character to skill up

rain bobcat
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usually for backline level the barrage first then the self buff

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but it really doesn't matter

halcyon wind
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I've fully developed Friedrich der Große
I'm currently trying to do agïr,
Do I change development target or keep doing agïr?

keen sable
keen sable
uncut ocean
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Question: is slaimuda still up to date? not seeing eldridge retro on there

rain bobcat
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somewhat

rain bobcat
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but it it's got questionable ratings and really bad ui for the equipment guide

vale spindle
little tree
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To beat ex what boss fleet do I want ?

copper ermine
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when would it be fine to craft t3 offensive books? I never have enough of them

plain saffron
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more exp/time but lose exp total

rain bobcat
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if you always refresh on time upgrading actually worse but yeah

copper ermine
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so its just a net loss then

stark quiver
keen sable
plain saffron
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wdym didn't do a good job, i know it's in there. but never referenced anywhere

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and game not up. i can't just mine yostar's server

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it's server side calc when battle drops

dusk maple
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does the AP dmg reduction in EX hard mode affects bf109g?

north forge
plain saffron
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lar confirmed it dropped from event

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one of theory is it replaces gold boxes drop

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or purple, need more sample

rapid grail
keen owl
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Doing renown META dossiers with this party.
Any good replacement for Plymouth or is there better Mainfleet to fight it?

plain saffron
dusk maple
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Yeah I guessed so

spring topaz
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Am I to assume this is the same plane, or does the "T0 Design" make it a different plane?

plain saffron
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it's same plane yeah

plain saffron
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T0 is just the gear tier and design because it's a design

spring topaz
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got it

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is it worth researching for 15 purple boxes for 1 design

keen sable
keen owl
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Cause she is doing half the damage of Hindy

plain saffron
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have you consider the dmg from she's buffing others

viscid swift
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one, she's buffing Musashi's damage by 18%, 2, I doubt it should be half assuming they're both properly geared

rain bobcat
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its like 20-40% usually