gameplay-help

[turbid latch]

should I buy this bulin for my shimakaze? and should I only use shimakaze if she's already full bulin upgraded bc im going to replace laffey

[atomic abyss]

you should buy it for Amagi CV

and not for shimakaze

[placid wadi]

i guess 13-4 is still the place to farm a ton of gold?

[atomic abyss]

outside events, yes

[inland shoal]

12-4 or 13-4 is what most ppl do

[placid wadi]

now i'm in gold shortage to build amagi, so i guess 13-4 it is

[atomic abyss]

there are coins in the event shop

[turbid latch]

is she good? I don't have enough money nor cubes to get her (45 cubes) (3k money)

[atomic abyss]

use all the cubes you have

[placid wadi]

is it faster than 13-4?

[atomic abyss]

limited URs are exactly what you save for

shimakaze is one of the lowest priority URs

[placid wadi]

heh i was previously blinded by new jersey

[atomic abyss]

NJ is not much better

[urban grail]

why's mogador recommended for current meta fight

[inland shoal]

Depends, but with early milestones and first clear rewards it is probably faster, but also much more limited in scope

[whole crypt]

not specifically, depends on comp

[placid wadi]

well i saw the shop had some coins, but not much

[placid wadi]

would still dump all my cubes after amagi tho

also whoa did azur lane seperate the game stage with the story?

[urban grail]

lets say some cn strats having mogador for off tank

[placid wadi]

dang really alot things changed ever since i left for....500 days

[urban grail]

is it simply cuz of her dps capabilities

[whole crypt]

this one?

[urban grail]

yeah

[whole crypt]

it's not only her DPS, her lunge is used to stall Nagato for last launch

[urban grail]

ahh, also why sg radar

[fervent hearth]

this one didnt work for me for extreme sadge

[whole crypt]

because if lunge misses Nagato doesn't stop

[topaz smelt]

Ye that comp never worked for me

[fervent hearth]

ye same i had the same gear and everything kek

[whole crypt]

I got 1 oneshot out of 5 yesterday with it

[topaz smelt]

Even after I pushed DPS to the max

[urban grail]

which comp is easier to copy btw

[topaz smelt]

I'll just wait for amagi for my 100% comp

[whole crypt]

if you don't have max tech an oaths just pick something to 2-shot

[fervent hearth]

sometimes u just gotta test ur own and edit the fleet

[whole crypt]

you got a working setup yet?

[fervent hearth]

max tech om

[urban grail]

i do have max tech, but only some have oath mainly the BBs

[fickle scarab]

Rld Tech needed to sync?
Wanna try this for auto 75 runs

[whole crypt]

that particular comp uses 16 CV RLD

[topaz smelt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/790526502269616148/1283993061843538026/image.png?ex=66e5abf9&is=66e45a79&hm=0f529e50f985d1620da210a1b786a9c1f4cb137a6eb7086dc51072f000d3431a&

[whole crypt]

if you just want 75 most of the regular anti-heavy should work

[topaz smelt]

Bot is a more poverty version, slightly less consistent

[whole crypt]

I assume those VITs need to be 13

[topaz smelt]

Ye

[fickle scarab]

Vit good ?

[topaz smelt]

I'll try manjuu amagi today if I can find a timing

Top is strong enough to kill without mog stun

[whole crypt]

I'll stick with the CN one for now and start leveling Amagi then I guess

[fickle scarab]

Are vits supposed to be better than the 3 converging we already had?

[atomic abyss]

the VIT 2 mode change is the highest damaging torp bomber
it's slower, however

[whole crypt]

it's higher damage but slower, it's more of a matter of timing

[placid wadi]

seeing this comp, which i wonder, is there any replacement for the vanguard? other than kazagumo

[topaz smelt]

I think you can sub amagi for sashi, it's pretty much the same base

[whole crypt]

izumo gun?

[fickle scarab]

There goes my 6 +13 b7a
How much better?

[atomic abyss]

not that much

[topaz smelt]

Yamato, same setup as cn comp

[atomic abyss]

very tiny bit slower
very tiny bit stronger

[whole crypt]

so just swap out Alsace for Musashi then

[atomic abyss]

as nntkt put it, a timing side grade

[placid wadi]

dang which mean outside those units, that comp won't work?

[sage nebula]

this cake belfast minigame is by far the best event minigame theyvd had. is there anywhere to give feedback on minigames?

[fickle scarab]

#game-feedback

[atomic abyss]

#game-feedback

[topaz smelt]

I think I prefer Alsace more in tho comp tho

[exotic wren]

Just curious tho, why skyraider, timing?

[sage nebula]

ty

[atomic abyss]

i mean, you'll likely just 2hko, which is little skin off your back

[whole crypt]

showdowns can be fickle if you need to fine tune for oneshots

[atomic abyss]

one shotting metas is not applicable to the average player

[placid wadi]

one shotting meta?

[atomic abyss]

the average player will 2 or 3 shot at best

[placid wadi]

i need a lil refresher

[atomic abyss]

we are discussing comps for nagato meta

[whole crypt]

this whole discussion is for oneshotting the current META showdown against Nagato META

[fickle scarab]

Full ijn cv lineup, for auto how strong of a tank do I need this fight?

[whole crypt]

not very

[ebon verge]

how long does it usually take to research an ur gear? assuming i spam Q research

[placid wadi]

owwhhh

[sage nebula]

this meta does low dmg, tank can be a non-tank if you want

[topaz smelt]

Like 2-3 months

[whole crypt]

I finished my first La-9 in about 9 weeks

[fickle scarab]

Hinden unzen kaza good for auto?

[sage nebula]

yeah, hinden is durable enough

[fickle scarab]

Thanks

[hollow gust]

Bro missed out on plant vs zombies

[soft salmon]

I keep hearing mogodor mentioned as having a slow/stun, but I dont see anything in her skills. What part of her kit has this?

[sage nebula]

which event was that? its possible i mightve missed that

[exotic wren]

Lny?

[whole crypt]

Hindenburg is kind of sus if you throw her in without durability aux

[sage nebula]

oh, yeah, i missed lny

[exotic wren]

The one with fireworks iirc

[atomic abyss]

the lunge cause nagato to stop her animation, forcing her to start doing it again, briefly freezing her

[hollow gust]

she latch on to the enemy which basically rams her into the boss , allowing unzen to face torp and helps CVs hit target

[topaz smelt]

Mob stabs is just a 1s stun

[sage nebula]

mogador doesnt drag the vanguard with her - she doesnt help your other ships facetorp

[soft salmon]

i see, is it generally applicable or specific to nagato META?

[placid wadi]

well since i'm kinda outta the loop of the meta, i think i'm just gonna ask what notable units i could build in the meantime outside UR

[urban grail]

is this gun actually good

[keen sable]

Each of the ships does something important but in particular mog isn't there to look pretty

[atomic abyss]

specific to nagato meta
different metas need different teams

[atomic abyss]

niche use on musashi (quite cope tbh)
not much else

[placid wadi]

Mog?

[atomic abyss]

mogador

[sage nebula]

usually you can have a solid skeleton of 2 backliners and 2 frontliners for any given meta fight - and then the other two slots can be flex slots to address whatever mechanic is present

[whole crypt]

not really no.

gimmicks for showdowns can vary greatly, and also there's the issue of armour

[soft salmon]

while im at it, I dont have mogador or unzen, what might be good subsitutes? Eldridge Kai and Shima?

[placid wadi]

i can see mogador skill description is like a tank?

[whole crypt]

she's a durable-ish DPS not tank

[sage nebula]

it depends completely on your skeleton - bismarck zwei is good against all armor types. plymouth is good against all armor types. it depends entirely on what your skeleton is

[placid wadi]

is there any durable-ish dps tho other than her?

[stoic flicker]

is it hard to get affinity back, I just wanna giga fast lvl up my ships but they go to 0 mood fast

[atomic abyss]

2h in the dorm 2nd floor to get them back to max mood
affinity is annoyingly hard to gain back once lost

[keen sable]

She does in riceist because she is TANK

[sage nebula]

oh, i suppose thats a neat trick

[whole crypt]

I haven't used BisZwei for at least the past 2 METAs
Plymouth is still a depends

[stoic flicker]

wdym 2h? that would be 100 mood but max is 150

[placid wadi]

how about the heavy cruisers? like Azuma?

[hollow gust]

When she is main tank , she does drag the vanguard with her

[atomic abyss]

azuma is a tank, not a dps

[stark quiver]

Between Brest,ancho,agir and Guam who’s the tankiest

[patent pivot]

My first batch of CVagi tests

[keen sable]

Right now should be really easy with dreamland

[atomic abyss]

there's also the dreamland event going on right now for faster morale regen

so 60/h

[atomic abyss]

agir without question

[whole crypt]

well she doesn't exactly drag the whole vanguard, the other vanguard members will move to join her but she'll also be pulled back so you can get closer for torping but you're not guaranteed a facetorp

[placid wadi]

so no one really can replace mogador?

[atomic abyss]

she is the only ship that does that lunging thing lol

realistically, most of you guys are not one shotting her anyways

[inner delta]

[atomic abyss]

just use a slightly different, less fine tuned comp and go for the 2HKO

much easier, much less stress off your back

[topaz smelt]

Or just use helena

[placid wadi]

the lunging thing as in like where she missing outta nowhere?

[atomic abyss]

yes

she just zooms and slashes the nearest humanoid

[umbral briar]

Crossshot? what is that?

[atomic abyss]

it's google translated

[placid wadi]

interesting...when she will be reruned?

[atomic abyss]

mogador? aroud 2 years

[placid wadi]

2 years?!

[hollow gust]

Give or take 2 years yeah

[atomic abyss]

she was released in May
and events take around 2+ years to rerun

[placid wadi]

dang i forgot ur events take forever to rerun

[atomic abyss]

all events (except raid ones, which dont rerun)

[placid wadi]

dang 2 years....

[solid harness]

Does the updated description for Amagi’s skill make it worse? I forgot if the original was for every ship and not just Sakura empire ships

[atomic abyss]

no, because there was no change to her skill

it always worked that way

[whole crypt]

i.e. text was wrong

[placid wadi]

it just makes missing out units even more pain

[atomic abyss]

it's just the description that was wrong

[plain saffron]

skill work the same, desc is wrong all this time

[solid harness]

Gotcha

[hollow gust]

won't running full sakura mean no slow? How will you calculate bosses that move much more?

[topaz smelt]

standard en patches

[atomic abyss]

except jp had the same issue, and got apologems too

[spring bolt]

blame yostar

[atomic abyss]

so try again rice

[hollow gust]

Standard EN issues but this time Jp fucked up too

[topaz smelt]

is it not expected for en to get a few desc wrong every banner?

[whole crypt]

standard EN not reading Chinese and translating from broken Japanese

[atomic abyss]

if anything

[topaz smelt]

its on the bingo card

[placid wadi]

then how long does it take for a ur to be added in the perm pool? 4 years?

[whole crypt]

3+

[hollow gust]

3-4 yeah

[atomic abyss]

we should thank @plain saffron for giving us all 200 gems

[plain saffron]

they only do because amagi is UR, another ship still have wrong desc

[solid harness]

Okay I’m trying to understand Amagi but she seems like she is just a niche ship for Sakura empire and isn’t good outside of that?

[placid wadi]

dang that's quite long for a rare unit to be added in perm pool @@

[patent pivot]

Check the pdf and see

[whole crypt]

what there were apologems for this?

[inner delta]

that is true, only UR get fixed

[atomic abyss]

https://vxtwitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1834548825325015177

[inland shoal]

For jp too

[keen sable]

Is suzunami fixed also? I really liked that one

[ebon verge]

how long does it usually take to research an UR gear? like 3 months?

[plain saffron]

if she's not UR there won't even be announcement

[atomic abyss]

all event ships are the same so

[inner delta]

it's not even get a reply nagami, it's a feature

[whole crypt]

I hate checking twitter for updates ever since they killed tweetdeck

[atomic abyss]

by that token, all UR carriers are niche

[hollow gust]

Through the box and whiskers graph thing ? So the lowest end would be them whiffing

[placid wadi]

that's fair, though what if shorter like 1 year?

[patent pivot]

Did you look at the other ships

[atomic abyss]

considering shinano and hakuryuu are currently the dominant carriers for heavy armour
and they're japanese

[solid harness]

Well I’m not too familiar with the others really 🤷🏾‍♂️

[hollow gust]

I see the elridge but is her slow reliable enough?

[patent pivot]

The results can tell you that

[topaz smelt]

alone no

[whole crypt]

oh the gems next update

[topaz smelt]

idk where the eld cope came from

[whole crypt]

it's yahoo

[topaz smelt]

considering its alo theres only 1 place

[patent pivot]

I ran her as one of many diff combos of slows and stops, limited by time to test rn

[whole crypt]

[keen sable]

That's wrong but go on

[hollow gust]

Damn skinless Alsace

[whole crypt]

just because I bought the skin doesn't mean I need to use it

[hollow gust]

I haven't seen that in a long time lmao , almost every mf uses her skin

[placid wadi]

i keep seeing, that people mention new jersey getting power crept, but who powercrept her though? and can i get them now?

[hollow gust]

Almost all the new UR bbs

[solid harness]

That’s kinda why I ended it with a question mark so that if it was wrong someone could correct me

[atomic abyss]

every gacha UR BB beside UvH powercrept her
all of them are limited

[keen sable]

The new ur bb and no

[hollow gust]

Alsace Soyuz Musashi Biszwei , hell she can't even hold her own against kearsarge in a pure bb fleet most of the time

[placid wadi]

well i got 1 outta 4 so i guess she's still useful for me?

[hollow gust]

Wait forgot Vanguard

[whole crypt]

she's useful until you get better, yes

[atomic abyss]

assuming yours is actually mlb

[whole crypt]

VG by herelf is probably worse than NJ but VG scales with party

[placid wadi]

are the new bbs getting rerun any time soon?

[urban grail]

how do u get alsace to remove his eyemask

[atomic abyss]

musashi is due for a rerun soon™️

[placid wadi]

i already gotten her so anyone else?

[hollow gust]

She lets you see her face after oath

[urban grail]

no oath no face reveal huh

[atomic abyss]

no one else for many many months
vanguard just reran in july

[keen sable]

NJ is very good yes and better than all gold and some rainbow bb

[atomic abyss]

alsace and soyuz will rerun in like, 2 years

[eager mulch]

Amagi CV is good

with or without other sakura empire

[hollow gust]

Well u can shell out for her skin

Her love can be bought

[placid wadi]

i guess i can make NJ work with friedrich, musashi and NJ?

[eager mulch]

3 rainbow bbs together are strong

[topaz smelt]

apes stronk together

[placid wadi]

how about front line? i guess helena is still the strongest as a boss debuffer as always?

[eager mulch]

ectl general type vibes

[boreal oriole]

Depends on what you have

[topaz smelt]

what about cock

[urban grail]

dam who's this new guy

[eager mulch]

always

[topaz smelt]

about to leave

[urban grail]

jk rice dont kil me

[topaz smelt]

leaving soon regardless, no new info here

[whole crypt]

waiting for you to come back with working oneshot comp

[topaz smelt]

long done

the amagi comps 90+%

[placid wadi]

once i get amagi, i can continue build pity on other ur? gotta catch up abit

[topaz smelt]

not really worth

you just go back to daily builds on light

[placid wadi]

well there won't be any ur event any time soon

so why not?

[topaz smelt]

cuz waste of cubes for a ship you get for free

[placid wadi]

but i need em

[keen sable]

I have no idea where you went wrong. Maybe only caring she has 8 planes? She has a UR level airstrike better than some ur, worse than other ur. Her skills are crazy 15% avi 13% dmg 15% torpedo. Her barrages are probably best out of all ur cv. And thats just her.

[whole crypt]

do you have the bulins for them even

[placid wadi]

no but i want em still

[topaz smelt]

you do you

[placid wadi]

so back to my tunnel vision i go

[soft raft]

then just wait bro
they aint gonna get thanosed but you do you ig

[eager mulch]

then get em

[tame jungle]

well if you're not gonna follow the advice on resource management feel free to waste your cubes but don't come complaining when you miss the next UR

[whole crypt]

so you want a shiny trophy that does nothing in your dock for 2 months or more

[placid wadi]

but when is the next ur tho?

[atomic abyss]

december at latest

[whole crypt]

next rerun UR is Musashi probably late this year
next new UR is Dec
there's probably collab in November

[topaz smelt]

and prob sashi rerun in between

[solid harness]

Thank you I appreciate that I’m not good at understanding ships

[placid wadi]

i already gotten musashi so i could save up ig

[whole crypt]

if you don't care about collab probably fine to build a bunch but I doubt you'll get much out of wasting those cubes

[keen sable]

Why waste cubes on nothing when you can waste cubes on loveru and ur at same time.

[atomic abyss]

any suggestions on why soy/nak/shin SD is noticeably higher than soy/nak/cvagi?

[whole crypt]

you literally progress your perm UR pity with daily lights anyway

[placid wadi]

well loveru do can help build i pity i believe, so i understand that, but other ur tho?

[topaz smelt]

nano debuffs

[whole crypt]

new UR in Dec
no idea what your cube count is

[bold cove]

Can we get like around 200 cubes per month? Done all daily

[placid wadi]

101 and ready to save up next journey

[turbid latch]

what should I buy here

[viscid swift]

is Hakuryu launching first

[atomic abyss]

missing all her torps probably

[placid wadi]

well may a lil spending here and there for the UR build up

[atomic abyss]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[atomic abyss]

@turbid latch^

[whole crypt]

my guess is Hakuryuu hitting first, either planes or barrage then Amagi hitting nothing

[bold cove]

I have to levling DD to meat requirements for D3

[urban grail]

saveeee

[atomic abyss]

then

my guess is Hakuryuu hitting first, either planes or barrage then Amagi hitting nothing

[placid wadi]

i mayyy gonna spend a lil build here and there because ur greed

[whole crypt]

give her faster planes or give Hakuryuu slower planes

[soft raft]

UR banners dont contribute to perma pity at all
And Perma URs are not in event pools

[turbid latch]

cv are the carrier planes? should I remove saratoga here and replace it with independence

[bold cove]

Just know that after 50 pulls on Ur banner

[soft raft]

eventually yes

[urban grail]

just do light daily, contributes to the 400 for perma UR

[atomic abyss]

not yet, get 3 pairs shells first, you'll run out immediately after 1 shell

[placid wadi]

so in other words, once im done with amagi, i can just chill and build abit on the perm pool? not saying i would dump 100% on my cube, but do a lil silly willy mood build

as for musashi i could skip since i have her?

[viscid swift]

Just stick to one light build daily until the next event

[turbid latch]

so that means I should buy 9 shells first

[whole crypt]

I mean it's your cubes, waste it the way you want

we've already stated the case very clearly

[atomic abyss]

3 white, 3 black
ignore yellow

[viscid swift]

Just don't come complaining here when you're short on cubes

[placid wadi]

yep i will come to regret sooner or later, i appreciate the advice tho, i would learn to save up at least some cubes

[eager mulch]

cheeky im short on cubes

[bold cove]

Just save it and pull on event banner like Indiana, pitts banner, it contribute to 400 pity

[silk helm]

but u have a lot of amagis

[eager mulch]

[patent pivot]

Couldn't tell ya right now, I want to run more tests to help narrow down shit

[silk helm]

did anyone test watarase yet?

[atomic abyss]

thanks

[atomic abyss]

wait a week

people have little interest in her honestly

[placid wadi]

that could work, especially with the missing units i been having here and there

[whole crypt]

unless she has a pog barrage I don't see watarase doing anything

[patent pivot]

My first thoughts are difference in acc/luck and differing reliance on trps but that shouldn't have that large of an impact

[atomic abyss]

watara's skill barrage is pog

...except it procs like once every 20s

[whole crypt]

and even if she has a pog barrage she's not doing anything over our current top CLs

[atomic abyss]

dont worry, jimmy is already coping her as top3 dps CL

which is almost certainly untrue

[whole crypt]

does jimmy even know who the current top 3 are

[viscid swift]

He thinks it's Plymouth, Bayard, and Watarase

[silk helm]

what do u think it is

[viscid swift]

not sure to be honest

[whole crypt]

except bayard isn't even top 3

[atomic abyss]

elite so 🚮

[sweet delta]

Harbin is top 3

[viscid swift]

but I highly doubt Watarse is even top 10

[topaz smelt]

smh ppl sleeping on mint

[whole crypt]

wtf is mint

[topaz smelt]

her barrage is pretty potent

[atomic abyss]

mintsuu

[sweet delta]

Clearly you haven't considered putting champy flag

[eager mulch]

how broken is zao??

[viscid swift]

~~very, needs nerfs ~~

[urban grail]

it feels like i havent been playing for years, how come idk all these names

[keen sable]

I don't think there's much to test. The potential isn't top tier and the floor isn't low

[silk helm]

good to know, thanks

[viscid swift]

she'll just wait her queue until I get around to her, she's CL hit at least

[topaz smelt]

she just looks like a really good mobber

[keen sable]

She does really want to be paired though. 15% dmg buff should be worth a tier or two

[whole crypt]

I mean she kind of works with purple 410 Musashi

[calm ledge]

Is there any point in 3*ing the C or D stages in the event? The mission asks for either A or C

[whole crypt]

if you've done A there's no need to do C, similar for B and D

[storm olive]

Could she benefit from bbv flag for more barrages (assuming strike/mgm more than 5s apart)

[zinc turret]

how good is amagi cv ?

[whole crypt]

but IJN BBVs are 🚮

[atomic abyss]

rainbow so very good
how very good, we dont know

[bitter cosmos]

how do i know which ship drops from which map in event?

[zinc turret]

so too new to test how good she is huh

[bitter cosmos]

its not the same in D1 D2 or D3 right?

[viscid swift]

wait until the wiki page is updated

[whole crypt]

Hiei META drops from B3/D3
it's always the shop ship, also the build ship with no rate up

[pale mason]

would amagi cv be a priority to use bulins on if i already have haku, nano, avp as my main cv fleet? i could probably make another cv fleet but idk if worth
maybe save for future URs coming?

[whole crypt]

unless you're asking about the full drop list

[viscid swift]

Yes, vets have the same time gates as everyone else

[bitter cosmos]

ok maybe i change another way... which map drops the meta ship in event

[atomic abyss]

b3, d3, sp

[bitter cosmos]

ok

[atomic abyss]

#event-faq

[hollow gust]

Ewww

[forest palm]

you know Spearfish is faster than a Wyvern...

[hollow gust]

I need some AA

[whole crypt]

then maybe don't use a rocket fighter

[ashen pecan]

Can CV Amagi use BC Amagi's skins and vice versa?

[bitter cosmos]

do we have a guide on what gear should the different ship equiped?

[atomic abyss]

no

[topaz smelt]

updated poverty comp

[ashen pecan]

aw ok thanks

[hollow gust]

~~Ik, totally forgot starfish was faster ~~

[atomic abyss]

poverty

[forest palm]

my Amagi is like 20 sec per strike

[topaz smelt]

sorry i dont post bad fleets

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[inner delta]

rice, at least change the poverty to 76mm

[hollow gust]

Basically the same

[topaz smelt]

if you have 4 +13oxys i think youre well past that

[keen sable]

Oxypoor

[pale mason]

can i ask who is slowing so that the converging bombers can reliably hit

[topaz smelt]

mog

[inner delta]

you also need to start removing that

[atomic abyss]

none, nagameta doesnt move during your airstrikes till the last airstrike
mog can stun her long enough for the last airstrike to hit

[cobalt rapids]

i dont thin kshe can stun for 3 cvs

[inner delta]

less about povery more about "if you don't own 3 vit"

[cobalt rapids]

but it prob doesnt matter

[whole crypt]

if you don't own 3 VIT at +13

[topaz smelt]

oxys are hard to remove since kaza and unzen do a lot of dmg

can cut 1 from kaza for goldburn but thats less accessible

[cobalt rapids]

also 3 tenrai +13 > poverty

[pale mason]

oh this is specifically for the meta fight
but what about in opsi, can mogador's slows be reliable enough, like is it timed correctly

[inner delta]

give it the yellow one from boxes instead or smth

[atomic abyss]

no, absolutely not

[whole crypt]

I can totally make 3 +13s if I didn't spend them on La-9 first

[topaz smelt]

mog doesnt need to stop for full hits, ive had runs where mog missed and it still killed

[atomic abyss]

you'd replace one of those carriers with implacable or august

[topaz smelt]

the fleet is just way overkill

[pale mason]

which would you replace or would you rather just run parallel torps

[atomic abyss]

parallels are no better

[whole crypt]

which part in OS though

META oneshot comps aren't meant for OS boss use

[topaz smelt]

mog stun is very timing specific so itll only really work in dedicated comps

[pale mason]

general bossing, i guess harbiter too

[atomic abyss]

+13 tenrais and +13 oxys will do that...

[whole crypt]

META oneshot comps aren't meant for OS boss use

[topaz smelt]

i dont think the tenrais are that important

[viscid swift]

I'll let you know after I get my Amagi CV to 125

[pale mason]

well i didn't know it was specifically only for meta oneshot comp
if you were to change the fleet to be more generalized what would you change

[topaz smelt]

you def can cut a couple if im overkilling by like 20 bars

[whole crypt]

getting to 125 is easy
getting to 200 affinity takes way more time

[topaz smelt]

i tihnk the vits are more important tho

[atomic abyss]

replace haku or nano with implacable
probably haku

and in the first place rice, there should be no way for you to know for sure if the comp works

[topaz smelt]

i mean if you really want poverty you just run helena

[atomic abyss]

so dont present it as fact

[whole crypt]

I just 1-1C'd Nagato yesterday I don't want to do it again for Amagi

[topaz smelt]

you mean like the cn comps

[pale mason]

what about skills lol how much time would that take in comparison

[viscid swift]

just use XP packs?

[hollow gust]

50 affinity takes like a day, so total 3-4 days

[atomic abyss]

9-10 days

[hollow gust]

10days total

[pale mason]

yeah so skills is the real block

[whole crypt]

yeh and getting to 125 takes like 1 minute
leveling skills is probably taking the longest

[atomic abyss]

no one should have amagi at 10/10/10 after all

so tone it down ye?

[pale mason]

ngl i was hoping that amagi would have some kind of slow in her kit since i missed implacable

[atomic abyss]

just use august

[topaz smelt]

tbf you dont need her 3rd skill

[storm olive]

How much xp is needed for lv10 skill again?

[slender python]

Do we know when st.louis pool skin rerun?

[atomic abyss]

given it just came out

[fleet marlin]

Isn't that really good barrage in her 3rd skill?

[atomic abyss]

maybe this years' black friday
we dont know

[warm condor]

Do you have to kill all enemies in the SP stage or you can skip some as soon as the boss appears?

[atomic abyss]

7 enemies before boss spawn
ignore all else

[inland shoal]

No purpose in 3 staring SP

[storm olive]

Just start and cancel training 55500 times to 10/10/10 amagi

[atomic abyss]

it's not "really good" at all

[warm condor]

Awesome - thanks
Didn't know if the other enemies drop something cool/usefull

[atomic abyss]

better than expected? yes
really good? nope

[inland shoal]

The main worth of that barrage doesn't lie in its damage tbh

[warm condor]

I can MLB Amagi CV
And I have probably asked this earlier but want to confirm

I can repalce MLB Enterprise with MLB Amagi CV and will get positive return in firepower yes?

[inland shoal]

No they both have 0 FP

[warm condor]

AVI

[keen sable]

It spins up to full stack before she even launches

[inland shoal]

But yeah Amagi will be stronger than Enty

Though mileage might depend on your exact comp

[warm condor]

By how much?

Don't Enterprise have more planes than Amagi?

[inland shoal]

No

[atomic abyss]

no lol

[inland shoal]

Very few ships have 9 planes and it's only URs

[warm condor]

What is the Instant of Naraka?
Is that a furniture?

[atomic abyss]

enterprise has 8, same as amagi
and has far worse efficiencies

[warm condor]

How often do URs get a banner?
Someone mentioned it taking 2 months to collect the bulins to MLB one
And I am using all the bulins I have on Amagi

[soft raft]

Lucky E go brrrr

[hollow gust]

Lucky E is basically efficiency x2

[atomic abyss]

new URs, every 3 months
reruns

[soft raft]

Not counting reruns, new URs have been in Feb, May, Sept, and Dec

[inland shoal]

Something like 4 times a year

But some of these events started having 2 URs now

[warm condor]

Oh nice, well enough time to have a prepared amount of bulins then.
This musashi I am hearing, she is a UR no?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[inland shoal]

Also you now effectively get 6k special cores per month so that's 3 burins in 2 months

• cruise pass + UR event milestone

[warm condor]

so 5 per 2 months?

[soft raft]

Musashi would be a rerun

[warm condor]

Cruise pass is more than 30 days right?
When is the Rerun?

[inland shoal]

More or less ig

[atomic abyss]

we dont know when is the rerun

[warm condor]

I just follow the equips in this website?
The top being their best in slot?

[soft raft]

Much less if they'll change up the order
Because....

[inland shoal]

Cruise pass is 2 months ye
And rerun is expected not before the end of October and maybe as late as far into next year

[atomic abyss]

no, top is NOT best in slot

[soft raft]

Not always, read the gear descriptions

[atomic abyss]

read the tool tips

[whole crypt]

top is "least likely to screw you over for later in campaign if you have no idea what you're looking at"

[warm condor]

Go with this one?
For progression

I'm looking for a progression guide

[atomic abyss]

that one is good, because it actually explains shit

[vital meadow]

are wyvern a good plane to +13?

[cobalt rapids]

not at all

[whole crypt]

gear depends on what you're fighting, there's no "move on to this gun for next stage" guide

[inland shoal]

Not rly, very expensive

[topaz smelt]

There's not really much of a progression guide

[vital meadow]

tenrai?

[topaz smelt]

Not first

[inland shoal]

You will need enough gold plates for other planes for bossing, like converging TBs, rockets etc.

[vital meadow]

which planes first then?

[atomic abyss]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[cobalt rapids]

rockets and conv tb first

[vital meadow]

ngl i have 5 + 13 wyverns

[feral ermine]

Rich

[cobalt rapids]

time to main pvp

[atomic abyss]

what a waste of gold plates

[topaz smelt]

Lol that guide contradicts every thing we've said

[cobalt rapids]

i already made feedback to sam

[viscid swift]

sam.....

[topaz smelt]

Sam needs to stop taking bad advice

[inland shoal]

Not everything, it doesn't have Wyverns at least

[upper path]

What should I use on amagi? (For haku&Shinano fleet)

[vital meadow]

ptototype vit2 is the best to +13 then?

[stark quiver]

Sounds like a waste

[cobalt rapids]

theres no best conv tb to +13

[topaz smelt]

Depends on the fleet, timing, tech ..etc

[cobalt rapids]

u want a variety of em for timing

[atomic abyss]

1 DB 2 TBs
what you use specifically depends on the rest of the comp

[inland shoal]

But yeah, gold planes come before UR planes generally cuz you can upgrade 3 instead of 1
Well and converging torps and rocket fighters are much more important than everything else like DBs

[cobalt rapids]

best to see what ur comps are mostly using and +13 those

[whole crypt]

so I can blame sam for my +13 La-9

[vital meadow]

this is too complicated

[cobalt rapids]

leave gear at +10 then

[stark quiver]

bruh I have no one to blame for my +13 sg

[vital meadow]

what about main guns

[whole crypt]

+13 SG is easy though

[vital meadow]

which 1 to +13 first

[atomic abyss]

champagne guns

[umbral briar]

UR +13 its to expensive

[topaz smelt]

I have 3 raised Helena and still don't have+13 sg

[whole crypt]

I just made one for the heck of it, not like you'll use more than 1 ever anyway

[silk helm]

is azuma useful to unlock?

[forest palm]

do you have other CB? Anchor?

[cobalt rapids]

shes basicly free, at worst shes tech and free protocores

[silk helm]

agir anchorage and chesire i have (and san fran i guess)

[forest palm]

Azuma would be useful in this case then, it'll be a while before she gets phased out, not that that's hard to do

[silk helm]

thanks

[vernal osprey]

What does the ACV stat mean? Does it mean how strong their airstrike would be or what?

[keen sable]

Tap inside map to see

[drifting pecan]

It is possible to do 1:1 fleet on D3?

Ofc with additional cross barrage fleet

[forest palm]

it's air space control basically an indication of how weak, or strong your AA is, and you get varying buffs, and debuffs depending on your ACV

[dull lantern]

How is this for Kearsarge?

[keen sable]

Of course

[vernal osprey]

Oh, ok thx

[atomic abyss]

the specific buffs

[drifting pecan]

Nice, thankyou

[whole crypt]

for clearing sure
for grinding just go full fleet

[eager mulch]

Not dev30, therefore bad

[dull lantern]

Working on it, rainbow BPs are hard to get

[eager mulch]

so don’t use her

[cobalt rapids]

dont +13 random gear aswell

[eager mulch]

it not that hard

[drifting pecan]

How much event currency needed to bought all shop item?

[whole crypt]

I suspect his gear is +12 because he can't +13 from lack of OS

[dull lantern]

Yep, I never really do OS

[cobalt rapids]

its random

also only do one per plate type at a time

[dull lantern]

Plate?

[whole crypt]

the parts for enhancing

[dull lantern]

Oh

[whole crypt]

and you should really do OS to max out gear, +13 has the highest damage increase per plate spent

[errant ivy]

Hello! what is taken into account for the status requirement for hard mode?

[dull lantern]

I've done some OS, just not nearly enough to max out gear or even use the items to make the higher tier gear like the Sea hornet

[whole crypt]

everything on ships for fleets that can sortie

sea hornet should never be crafted from lab but yeh

[keen sable]

Valid fleet 1 and 2

[forest palm]

basically each fleet must meet the required hull types for stats to account properly

[soft coral]

Best or decent fighters for heavy armor?

[whole crypt]

La-9

[eager mulch]

La-9

[errant ivy]

thank you! so like levels weapons and Skills? I’m still pretty new so I don’t really have a second fleet yet

[dull lantern]

I meant tigercat lol

[atomic abyss]

otherwise, the fw-190a

if you lack that too, flapjacks

[keen sable]

Skills don't count

[whole crypt]

just base stats and gear
increases from skill do not count

mainly because skill only takes effect when in battle

[whole crypt]

if you don't know what you're doing then I'd personally stick with the 2x1000s
there are cases where you end up doing more with bomb fighters than focket because you keep concealment

[errant ivy]

okay okay! I’ll use the guide and see what units I can level

[keen owl]

Is Equipping Planes without + OK for Timing and Stuff? Like this?

[atomic abyss]

it depends on what you're timing with

[errant ivy]

is amagi good?

[keen sable]

Very doubtful

[atomic abyss]

amagi CV?
UR so very good
how very good? we dont know

[keen owl]

With Shinano and amagi

[atomic abyss]

it depends on what THEY have

you have to calculate stuff like these

[whole crypt]

if you need to slow Implacable down with a +0 plane I highly recommend you give the other 2 faster planes

[sweet delta]

if you need to slow Implacable down with a +0 plane I highly recommend you give her a manjuu

[keen owl]

Might change Ryusei with Vit-2 or something

[whole crypt]

why are the other two even that slow

[sweet delta]

~~Double DB ~~

[umbral briar]

Is there a DD that can buff BB? especially damage

[whole crypt]

not really

[keen owl]

Maybe skill level or Not Maxxed 12% extra from affinity yet

[atomic abyss]

technically halford is able to, but her skill doesnt line up with BBs usually

[whole crypt]

what planes are on those 2

[keen owl]

Like these

[whole crypt]

Shinano and Hakuryuu's RLD don't change with skill

[haughty dust]

I did one 10 pull yesterday and got the UR Amag(CV) is she a good character or have a purpose in game?

[atomic abyss]

UR so very good

how very good, we dont know

[whole crypt]

should be really good but testing not done

[atomic abyss]

shinano 22.37
implacable 23.19

yeah your implacable is borked, upgrade her planes lmao

[hollow gust]

You are .08 off

[whole crypt]

don't use gold diver just give fast DB
try using Saiun
also D-4 is slightly faster
why do you want Implacable a whole second slower she just wants to launch together

[keen owl]

With Flapjack+10

Its .6?

[atomic abyss]

flapjacks are super fast tho, expected

[whole crypt]

then give her a manjuu from that

flapjacks are slower than the other 2 2x1000s

[keen owl]

The other one is not upgraded thats why its slow

[atomic abyss]

as nn said, give impla a manjuu

[viscid swift]

and/or use Saiuns and Ju-87ds on Shinano instead of Ryuuseis

[keen owl]

Is that A Gold or Purp gear

[atomic abyss]

purple gear from core shop

[keen owl]

Ok Ill get one Thnx

Do i need the homing Beacon for Shinano or not?

[atomic abyss]

manjuu is the opposite of the beacon, so no

[keen owl]

It doesnt show the Additional time on display?

[atomic abyss]

never has, never will

[keen owl]

Have to do the math myself. Thanks

[still rock]

Is there a point in completing the campaign

[atomic abyss]

w12/13 are the best exp/coin grind spots
you also clear campaign for

w14/15 is the current hardest content in the game

[still rock]

Oh yes the gems

[viscid swift]

Flexing mainly aftet w12

[sweet delta]

Flexing your ability to copy homework

[still rock]

Which of the ships here is a good vanguard tank

[dense eagle]

I know this isn't gameplay related but is codashop safe for buying gems? Some reason Google play doesn't let me buy anything

[atomic abyss]

yes, codashop is safe

[atomic abyss]

san fran is the best of the listed, but we dont use her as a tank for any tough content really

[cobalt rapids]

sanfran, but wheres portland

[sweet delta]

Looks like a USS filter but Portland is USS too

[still rock]

sandy laffey and helena will die on 12-4 if i dont have a tank with them

[atomic abyss]

on boss?
or mob

[still rock]

No the mobs

[atomic abyss]

are you using unicorn?
or any healer

[still rock]

Im using perseus but shes not full limit break

[atomic abyss]

there's your problem

[still rock]

I'll put uni on her place

[atomic abyss]

use unicorn retrofit yes

better than percy in practically everyway

[still rock]

Do i keep the vanguard tho?

[atomic abyss]

are you single fleeting

[still rock]

huh ?

That's my mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

what's the boss

that is SERIOUS overkill for mob
im surprised it wasnt clearing at all

[tame jungle]

what's the consensus on pr after 4 again, was it 5 then 7?

ok gaming

[atomic abyss]

swap fdg and NJ

[still rock]

I should use yorktown 2 instead of brunhilde

[atomic abyss]

fdg is a mobber, nj is a bosser

[still rock]

[viscid swift]

Are farming or clearing

[still rock]

Do meowfficers have a big impact on the fleet?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[novel solstice]

Good ones that are well-matched to the fleet have a big impact. If you slap a random junk meowficer who isn't well matched, it will have a small impact, but it still helps.

[still rock]

Im getting less xp by using 3-3 fleet instead of 1-3

( vanguard xp )

[keen sable]

You have other issues

[keen sable]

Impossible

[atomic abyss]

impossible
unless your vanguard was previously getting mvp, and isnt anymore

your total exp yield should be way higher though

[still rock]

I used to get 1900 xp for my vanguard per ship, double for one if mvp

[viscid swift]

In 12-4, unlikely

[atomic abyss]

different enemies give different amounts of exp anyways

[viscid swift]

You were probably imagining it

[still rock]

It may give more xp overall but what i need is vanguard exp

And 3-3 seems to split it as i mentioned before

[viscid swift]

It does not

[atomic abyss]

it doesn't split anything

[keen sable]

What you are attempting to claim is impossible

[viscid swift]

Also stop using maxed main fleets if you're just farming w12

[novel solstice]

You get the same amount of xp per ship regardless of how many ships you bring, they aren't splitting a fixed total.

[still rock]

So why is 12-4 giving less than 11-1

[viscid swift]

It's not, you're imagining things

[keen sable]

Turn off HELP

[still rock]

Do you need a screenshot

[atomic abyss]

im giving you the screenshot

[viscid swift]

This is what you do to be efficient in farming in w12

[keen sable]

You are welcome to ss your HELP screen

[viscid swift]

At minimum 5 ships that need xp, 6 if you don't need Unicorn to help carry them

[atomic abyss]

are you even comparing identical enemies

for all we know, you're comparing a 3 triangle node on 11-1 to a 1 triangle node on 12-4

then no shit, it would seem that way

[atomic abyss]

unique was right, you are using the HELP

[still rock]

help?

[atomic abyss]

high efficiency plans

[soft raft]

The 2x plan thingies

[still rock]

[atomic abyss]

so yes, you were imagining things

if you used them for 12-4, you'd get even more exp

you'd get 2.6k

[sweet delta]

That doesn't look like Thomas

[still rock]

Do i just need 100% to use those

[viscid swift]

All they do is save time

[boreal wagon]

they also double all the negatives lol

[atomic abyss]

no, it is false

[sweet delta]

is it true that that is a gph question?

[hollow gust]

Lmao Thomas the tank engine

[viscid swift]

that's Tank Engine

[hollow gust]

I watched it in another language

[stark quiver]

Thomas was goated Ngl

[still rock]

What do i buy from here

[stark quiver]

How much core do you have in the first place

[viscid swift]

2-3 Champagne guns and then the Tenrai

[still rock]

If i sold all my thingies probably 1,5k+

Ender

[keen sable]

Start with 20 s3 and hold them

Unless you have existing champy designs for some reason

[fickle scarab]

Yo I forgot to ask earlier, any oaths here?

[sweet delta]

Always assume

That showdown oneshots assume oaths unless otherwise stated

[fickle scarab]

Well I'm screwed

[sweet delta]

Then you just don't have to decrease rld tech

[fickle scarab]

Haku not oathed, nano oathed

I'm screwed no matter what unless I oath haku

[sweet delta]

Then you just have to use brain
and change plane

[fickle scarab]

How much difference for auto sync again? 0.10?

Would 22.84 and 22.69 lose sync after 1st airstike?

[atomic abyss]

+- 0.2 is fine

[fickle scarab]

So I just have to use 1 saiun, thx

Next why that premium 76mm on kaza

[atomic abyss]

just fancy ™️

76 will do

[sleek spade]

Does Halford uses Hammer or Dual swords?

I have no idea what she’s like. I’m researching her still

[atomic abyss]

sword

[sleek spade]

Ty

[fickle scarab]

That worked thx
Maybe I will accidentally one-shot one day

[stoic flicker]

whats the best way to progress your shipyard? All I remember doing is that I made it my goal to FS5 every ship in PR2 almost 3 years ago when I last played

[remote yarrow]

If you already got every ship in PR3 and below Fs5 now do it with PR4

[atomic abyss]

have you finished friederich?

if you have, proceed to pr4, start with anchorage, then agir and august, then hakuyruu, maybe marco too
then plymouth and brest in pr5

[remote yarrow]

Cuz we recommend
FdG > Anchorage > Agir > rest of PR4 > Ply > Rest of PR5

[keen sable]

By never setting focus below 4 and using coining

[still rock]

I went Neptune > FdG > Odin > Agir
🤷

[fickle scarab]

On that note Is it normal for ply to die before firing her last barrage?

[keen owl]

Is the Interval good enough?
Imp 21.79
Shina 21.66
Haku23.71 × 0.96 = 21.80

[fickle scarab]

Good to go

[keen owl]

Thnx

[sweet delta]

Yes but cursed DB

[viscid swift]

Why the insistence on using Ryuuseis

[sweet delta]

I didn't know turtle got a disciple

[keen owl]

Cause No more Gold parts

I have those Ryuusei Years ago

[remote yarrow]

Which TBs should be prio to +13? Junkers?

[short wagon]

wait thats akagi meta, kaga meta, and whats the last one

[atomic abyss]

it's akagi meta with kaga's and amagi's ghosts

[eager mulch]

He’s not mine

[short wagon]

oh

[atomic abyss]

there is no kaga meta

[eager mulch]

not a ryuusei gamer anymore, vit2s are the new crack

[short wagon]

will they ever release enty meta and takao meta

[atomic abyss]

im no prophet

[short wagon]

i trust you

[novel solstice]

Only the devs know -- they don't release detailed roadmaps more than a few days out.

[eager mulch]

#NotMyRyuuseiSync

[fervent hearth]

‹give the game 5 years

[eager mulch]

What I’d do, is set my sync first before +13 planes

[short wagon]

is she friend or foe

[atomic abyss]

ask #al-lore

[short wagon]

ok

[still rock]

Is it worth building my submarines

[stark quiver]

Very

[atomic abyss]

worth if you have the right ones

[keen owl]

Is that thing better than Fireflies?

[atomic abyss]

all are just for timing and not damage

[still rock]

I can beat the levels without subs so what's the point

[atomic abyss]

because you can't do that later

[ebon oxide]

For a F2P, is it worth pulling after you get one Amagi?

[still rock]

❓

[remote yarrow]

Beacuse subs are used in later stages, like W14 and W15

[atomic abyss]

not worth

[ebon oxide]

Ty Ender

[atomic abyss]

unless you're like, 10 rolls from pity

[fickle scarab]

@stark quiver figured it out

[stark quiver]

I found that you take 0 damage if you hug the bottom left corner during the phase

[fickle scarab]

Like this barrage or the whole 1st phase?

[remote yarrow]

I just watched Suchi's video and replicated what he did , but I'm lacking damage to kill the 3rd phase

[stark quiver]

This barrage

[fickle scarab]

Suchi uploaded already?

[sweet delta]

How can you lack damage to kill 3rd

[stark quiver]

Then you move up for the beams then down
I would send a video of it but data in school is ass

[fickle scarab]

@sweet delta link me ur vid plz

[sweet delta]

#media-content

[remote yarrow]

Right when I kill the 2nd phase Helena's manjuu pops and dies

[stark quiver]

For third face apparently the play was to always stand on the circle

[sweet delta]

Dodge longer

[stark quiver]

Apparently the circle provides support barrage like en anni thingy,
I may have been avoiding it like the plague

[fickle scarab]

You kill full boss by the time I'm done from 2nd phase

[remote yarrow]

I might try it later, I gave up after half an hour last night

[fickle scarab]

Yk2 that much better I see

I need 4 rotations, can't get to 3 rotation

[pliant tiger]

So, is the consensus of Amagi (CV) that she does not affect any of the meta CV builds?

[stark quiver]

Hold up lemme try to record it, might take 10 runs

[short wagon]

realistically could i make roon gun and use it on anchorage

[atomic abyss]

early calcs say the opposite

[fickle scarab]

I avoid it 1st run too then I read and realized

[stark quiver]

I didn’t read

[atomic abyss]

amagi seems to displace haku, although detailed testing is required

[keen owl]

Can Unzen use Drake gun?

[sweet delta]

"calcs"

[fickle scarab]

But then again suchi probably crit rolled and he has max tech anyway

[stark quiver]

Nuh uh lemme turn off tech

[short wagon]

is calc short for calculator

[remote yarrow]

Yes, not because it's Drake's gun means she cannot use it

Same stands for Anchor being able to use "Roon" Gun

[keen owl]

Cause she might Have that sakura Empire Gear type for something something special

[sweet delta]

Does she?

[fickle scarab]

Calculations in this context yes

[remote yarrow]

It's just nicknames

[keen owl]

Im not sure

[short wagon]

should i get prototype triple 155 kai and if yes how important is it

[strong tartan]

It's good

[low juniper]

What gear should I put on Amagi? She can equip so many things...

[strong tartan]

Gear is situational, gear your ships appropriately for whatever you're fighting

[atomic abyss]

mandatory for w14, best non UR CL gun basically

[atomic abyss]

if you're just levelling, fighter db tb, usual CV stuff

[still rock]

Ender

What do i buy from the monthly prototype shop

[atomic abyss]

you were already answered

[still rock]

No i wasnt

[pliant tiger]

But the fleet that used to be the most was haku, nano, impla, and now impla is used on Nakhimov, soyuz

[stark quiver]

I see myself

[atomic abyss]

no, why would impla be with nakh and soyuz - that's BS lol

[pliant tiger]

To slow? Let me check again

[atomic abyss]

nakh + soyuz already has freeze

[foggy chasm]

i forgot how sp stage work. do i have to clear everything

[stark quiver]

Nakh is the slow

[remote yarrow]

No, 7 mobs and then boss

[atomic abyss]

you would throw impla on light instead with yk2 and kears

[still rock]

What are the champagne guns

[foggy chasm]

boss is killable? or its the highest score thingie

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)

[strong tartan]

You're thinking of EX mode

[foggy chasm]

i rmb theres the highest score thing

oh yea thres ex as well

ex no reward right? sp daily 1?

[stark quiver]

Ex is the usual 500cogs

[remote yarrow]

@still rock

[strong tartan]

SP gives 800 event currency each clear but you're locked to 1 clear a day

[still rock]

oh

[foggy chasm]

okkk

[atomic abyss]

scroll down, buy these
craft the gun smoothie linked

[foggy chasm]

thanks

[atomic abyss]

CHECK THE SERIES NO CAREFULLY

[foggy chasm]

this is the ap BB one right? they are craftable now?

[atomic abyss]

they were always craftable from research lol

[foggy chasm]

oh

[remote yarrow]

It's been craftable since... January? In Gearlab

[short wagon]

where can i get iris boxes from

[atomic abyss]

as for gearlab, yeah jan

[undone plover]

coin shop and medal shop

[cobalt rapids]

supply shop, medal shop

[foggy chasm]

oh yeah thats what i mean gearlab

[atomic abyss]

medal shop, merit shop, coing shop

[foggy chasm]

you guys have a near perfect cat already?

[remote yarrow]

HA, no

[stark quiver]

I don’t gamble so no

[remote yarrow]

I'm coping for the Cat Update

[keen owl]

Is Double Oxy torps Ok on Unzen?

[eager mulch]

for what

[cobalt rapids]

fake news, that was a scam

[atomic abyss]

if she has 0 chance of dying, it works

most of the time, no

[eager mulch]

I’m coping for the renhex update

[keen owl]

Naga META

[stark quiver]

Well yes but you want other stuff usually
Like survivable

[atomic abyss]

unless you have full tech, oxy rudder

[cobalt rapids]

renhex is alr updated

[keen owl]

1 Oxy 1 Washing Machine?

[foggy chasm]

i have 609 purple cat box lol. how long does it take to use all of em

[eager mulch]

afaik he’s been umi no neko for a while now

[stark quiver]

Take the opening time and then multiply

[remote yarrow]

Why you gotta crush my hopes and dreams like that

[cobalt rapids]

umi no neko is here to stay

[foggy chasm]

i did like 10 purple per day now

so 2 months+

[stark quiver]

I gave up on cats

[foggy chasm]

when was the last time we got cat update? will we be getting one ?

[wet prairie]

Does IJN have any good subs?

[atomic abyss]

no

[cobalt rapids]

the last cat update was UI related and before that there was the tempesta cats

[atomic abyss]

not by the current standard at least

[soft raft]

nope
the lasst time we had word of a cat update, it was in fact a mistranslated statement on the Tempesta cats

[stark quiver]

When tempesta reruns will the cats also be here

[boreal wagon]

the last one was nyakhimov tho

[cobalt rapids]

i think they were in shop so most likely yea

[stark quiver]

No way…. Gg account bricked

[bright glen]

Assuming I have every ship in the game, what are the best fleet comps for w14?

[cobalt rapids]

enough what, its low prio for coredata

[boreal wagon]

i think 1 of them was in shop the other came from elsewhere but they should rerun

[viscid swift]

do you have every ship in the game

[foggy chasm]

hmmmm

[cobalt rapids]

yea drake was in shop , would be wierd if only drake reran

[fickle scarab]

@sweet delta thanks for the strat, I improvised a little to 3 shot it, now I do basic score farming

[foggy chasm]

also the cat flame aggresion 3% dmg is it multiplicative or no? and how good was it actually?

[stark quiver]

Brub it was drake the cat, I fucking bricked my account like that

[warm latch]

black/white shells, not much else in core shop is high priority

[cobalt rapids]

wdym u bricked ur acc

[fickle scarab]

You can't brick al acc

[bright glen]

Nope. I don't have Musashi.

[fickle scarab]

100% impossible you can easily fix it

[trim sparrow]

Sup guys whats Hindenburg role in the fleet? Can she tank?

[boreal wagon]

scrapping your hedgehog is pretty unfixable

[cobalt rapids]

shells, indep, cv timing, sub stuff and ddg stuff take prio over breguette

[viscid swift]

anything else missing, this includes ships that aren't max limit broken and dev 30

[fickle scarab]

She does dmg and can tank a little

[remote yarrow]

You would be surprised how many people we have seen brick their accounts randomnly

[atomic abyss]

no, she's the best DPS vanguard in the game
alongside unzen

[fickle scarab]

Just use 2 depth chargers

[foggy chasm]

using all story gems on oil and then hiatus for 1 month

[stark quiver]

That’s salvageable

[trim sparrow]

Ahh got it, thanks

[fickle scarab]

I started like that too, fixable

[foggy chasm]

id rather restart the game

new account

[bright glen]

I pretty much have every pr ship up to pr6 at dev 30. And every important ship in the game except Musashi I suppose.

[sweet delta]

Scrapping all of your gold gear, skipping daily challenges, and refusing to farm campaign or listen to advice in order to beat 11-3

[wet prairie]

Musashi kinda goat for W14-15 though

[fickle scarab]

You can even recover from that if you wnat to

[short wagon]

should i get one of these and if yes do i throw it on yk2 implacable or independanc

ok

[viscid swift]

Mob: Bismarck Zwei, Aquila, Unicorn, Guam, Shimanto, Laffey 2
Boss: Soyuz, Shinano, Hakuryu, Kronshtadt, Unzen, Anchorage

something like that for W14

[wet prairie]

Save for wyvern, you can probably buy the one before wyvern to upgrade if you really have core to spend

[fickle scarab]

Those 2 planes useless

[cobalt rapids]

def not the plane on the right and shells, indep, cv timing gear, sub stuff ( if u use) , ddg stuff ( if u use ) take precedence over breguette

[trim sparrow]

Oh damn didnt know hind had this kinda setup, give her 2 guns yea? Instead of AA

[stark quiver]

Dev30

[soft raft]

Yup
D30 only

[trim sparrow]

Yep d30. Right on

[stark quiver]

It’s a nice damage boost

[bright glen]

Can I replace Kronshtadt with Hindenburg, since she's only level 120. Also, do I have to swap any gear for this world?

[stark quiver]

Hinden isn’t a tank and she’s gonna explode

[soft raft]

esp in a boss fight

[viscid swift]

no
and you'll probably have to swap some gear around

[bright glen]

I vaguely remember I need some anti-sub gear?

[stark quiver]

Yea for 14-3/4

[bright glen]

Alright. Thanks.

[short wagon]

whats smth thats highly reccomended in the core shop other than white shell black shell

[stark quiver]

Indep

[short wagon]

maxed

[viscid swift]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[soft raft]

then just get whatever you need
whether it be more shells, subarmine gear, or firebrand to turn into wyverns

[stark quiver]

You can buy skins with core data?

[short wagon]

so if i get firebrands i cant use them until i make wyvern

[wet prairie]

Wait does baguette beat out that other UR TB?

[short wagon]

whats baguette

[stark quiver]

Breguet

[remote yarrow]

Yep, over at the "Ltd." section

[short wagon]

the plane

[fickle scarab]

The wyvern
No
The spearfish, maybe since it don't intercept

[short wagon]

?

[wet prairie]

Firebrands are pretty meh iirc

[pliant tiger]

Noted, I was very outdated on fleets

[soft raft]

crafting into wyvern is basically the only justification for buying firebrand

[bright glen]

Can I replace Aquila with Perseus? She is on a guild mission bruh

[stark quiver]

That doesn’t matter tho

[fickle scarab]

You get a full refund anyway after crafting wyvern with it, but the plane isn't good

[soft raft]

Aquila is a better secondary healer than perseus

[fickle scarab]

Persues do no dmg so nah

[bright glen]

I can't stop guild missions either... suffering

[cobalt rapids]

what guild mission

u can sortie ships in that are in guild ops

[fickle scarab]

Having ship on guild mission doesn't render it useless

[bright glen]

Oh yeah... my memory got messed up... Was trying to retire a ship just now, to only discover she was in guild mission lol

[still rock]

How does the random secretary system work

[fickle scarab]

It just stops you from scrapping them

[fickle scarab]

Keeps your main secretary slot to gain affinity
Changes display secretaries to random ships, you can customize it in settings

[still rock]

Whats the time between each change?

[fickle scarab]

I believe every 12h from reset, not sure tho ask someone else

[short wagon]

🚮 ?

[still rock]

Ender

[fickle scarab]

🚮

[atomic abyss]

not trash

but not worth either

[short wagon]

use on hood?

[atomic abyss]

not worth

[reef flume]

More worthy on Vanguard

[atomic abyss]

buy more white and black shells instead

[fickle scarab]

Barely any better than white/black shell just don't get

[short wagon]

lvl0 3*

[manic sable]

guys is it possible to reroll to get noshiro right now or she a limited character atm

[fickle scarab]

You can farm her in wa

[eager mulch]

She’s in perma light pool

[manic sable]

oh

[short wagon]

white or black shell on fdg

[atomic abyss]

both

[fickle scarab]

Both

[manic sable]

thank you for the information!

[short wagon]

what abt hood

[atomic abyss]

both

[fickle scarab]

Still both

[atomic abyss]

both for all BB/C basically

[still rock]

@atomic abyss Why am i building champagne gun if the UR one is more recommended for these ships?