gameplay-help

[vale spindle]

you can do that yes

[atomic abyss]

That depends on whether you can do SP

Otherwise it's just 30000/180

[civic crag]

I can def do sp

[atomic abyss]

Then you get 800 a day from SP
Another what, 450 from dailies

And 180 per run of D3

[civic crag]

It’s a how many day event?

[atomic abyss]

3 weeks

[remote yarrow]

How many tickets do you get for non UR reruns? I forgor

[short wagon]

i wish everyone in gameplay help love prosperity and a good day/night

[foggy chasm]

i saw that therell be another ur event/collab? when will it happen?

[finite crag]

you too Gab

[atomic abyss]

No date given

There's no UR event announced even

[foggy chasm]

estimated?

i mean we only have 3 months until 2025 so

[atomic abyss]

October or November

[vale spindle]

na theres a UR event in late december thats a given
theres also a collab in late november thats also a given

[foggy chasm]

okay thanks

[civic crag]

So I need to run D3 50 times to get the UR bulin

[short wagon]

wait u get a bulin for d3

[foggy chasm]

to love ru?

[vale spindle]

if you look at event history theres always been a collab event in late november every year

[atomic abyss]

You get a bulin for reaching 30k event points

[short wagon]

oh yeah aight time to work my ass off

[unborn owl]

stick with fighter/db/tb double cata for mlb amagi cv?

[atomic abyss]

Depends on where you're using her as always

[unborn owl]

for mob cleaning.

is this another extra morale restorer?

[atomic abyss]

Then yes, fighter db tb

[short wagon]

why is type 0 and messerscmitt bad

[little tree]

0 bomb DMG

[atomic abyss]

Shitty bombs or no bombs at all

[short wagon]

so use f4u and sb2c instead

[little tree]

yes

[short wagon]

what about the ftd1 or whatever its called

[unborn owl]

why f4u while not f7f?

[atomic abyss]

Because not everyone can afford F7Fs

[short wagon]

btd1

[atomic abyss]

🚮

[short wagon]

thank you

[atomic abyss]

BTD is shit

[short wagon]

how get f7f

[atomic abyss]

Gear lab
So you need to do operation siren

[short wagon]

what abt suisei? 🗑️✅?

[stark quiver]

do you need to get a pass on hard diff to get a ex score

[atomic abyss]

🚮

The gear lab version is better, but niche af, not for normal use

[foggy chasm]

i cant coin avp?

[stark quiver]

no way, wat fleets do people use

[atomic abyss]

You can

[unborn owl]

can it reach 150 on that event? (sweet freams)

[short wagon]

im scrolling through and i have a bf-109t at +10

🚮 ?

[foggy chasm]

do we know any estimation when pr4 dr can be coined?

[wind hazel]

messerschmitt? yes it's 🚮

[foggy chasm]

like from previous coin patch?

[atomic abyss]

Shit, but can be used for other niche gear lab equipment

[atomic abyss]

Jan 2025 probably

[short wagon]

gold or purple barracuda

[stark quiver]

wait sushi did u do it

[atomic abyss]

Gold obviously

[foggy chasm]

ok thanks

[stark quiver]

do u think youll do it?

send fleet if u do pls

[foggy chasm]

theres no oilcap on A-B map?

[short wagon]

iis tenzan and barracuda basically the same thing

[keen sable]

are you still trying to help that person

[short wagon]

purple

[stark quiver]

if the person you are reffering to is me, then yea

[atomic abyss]

Never has been, never will

[stark quiver]

who even is that person

[foggy chasm]

does 12-4 has oilcap?

[keen sable]

no the one you promised you would have dodge patterns for by 6 hours ago

[atomic abyss]

No
One shoots torps in a vertical line (barra)
One shoots torps converging to a target

[short wagon]

what should i use on implacable

[atomic abyss]

Tenzan

[stark quiver]

the circumstances have changed

[grand estuary]

anyone know when musashi's l2d is dropping my wallet might be hurting but i got the gems for it

[atomic abyss]

19th

[grand estuary]

sweet sooner then i thought

[unborn owl]

new orelans or houston ii on front?

[foggy chasm]

oh also is doing the 3x first time of the day token reward good?

in terms of oil efficiency for example

[keen sable]

it certainly is less pain to setup now

[short wagon]

implacable event plane is cheeks right

[foggy chasm]

or should i just do hard mode and dont cre about normal mode

[short wagon]

or at least i shouldnt use it over corsair

tenzan*

[atomic abyss]

Which event plane

[short wagon]

implacable

[foggy chasm]

this?

[short wagon]

the fairley firefly

[atomic abyss]

Ignore normal

[foggy chasm]

ok

thanks

[hollow gust]

this plane is shit, never use

[short wagon]

is that the event one i cant tell

[atomic abyss]

I don't remember there being planes named firefly that are good

Implacable doesn't even want to use dive bombers anyways

[foggy chasm]

i think you want to use this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[hollow gust]

dive bomber is perfectly fine in campaign

[atomic abyss]

Perfectly fine, but how often would she use it over double fighter or double tb

[hollow gust]

in campaign almost alwys

[inner delta]

on campaign db is better

[hollow gust]

unless ur running her in support fleet but thats endgame

[keen sable]

i think modney comp used it

[inner delta]

it used somewhere for timing

i know its used before but i dont rememrbr

maybe unique was right on rodney

[atomic abyss]

Timing sure

Not sure how often you see impla being used in campaign tho

[inner delta]

not that one no

that is a shit db

i mean if you dont have cvs you can use implac

not like shes a bad to become your primary instead of just support cv

[foggy chasm]

im always short on coin wtf is happening

[remote yarrow]

Keep grinding

[hollow gust]

.... not everyone has the luxury of having every OP CVs, if implacable is his best CV then you use her?? The reason Implacable is rated so highly in ECTL is cause she is hyper versatile

[topaz smelt]

Grind levels - push content - repeat

[foggy chasm]

man

whn was the qol that made increase to coin drop in w9+ again?

i need it to double down on that

[atomic abyss]

2-3 years ago

[remote yarrow]

oilcap?

[peak moat]

Anyone have an optimized d3 fleet?

[atomic abyss]

Not really considering there's oil cap

So just chuck 2 full fleets

[peak moat]

Sorry meant more optimized for time

[keen sable]

press HELP

[atomic abyss]

[atomic abyss]

If they're somehow not maxed yet
Use preloaders like Unicorn/Perseus/Alsace/Strasbourg, Staggered loaders like Impero/Independence
And stuff like Unzen and Ibuki

[forest palm]

ya there's nothing to make something faster than using HELP

[atomic abyss]

And yes, using the high efficiency plans

[blissful hamlet]

Any of the new ship have good tech?

[hollow gust]

amagi

[blissful hamlet]

What tech

[atomic abyss]

Amagi has Avi+1

[crimson grove]

how hard is EX hard

[stark quiver]

very hard

[hollow gust]

watarase has hit too, which is nice

[crimson grove]

but i can just clear normal for cogs ya?

[stark quiver]

yea

[crimson grove]

can we auto hard tho is the question

[unborn owl]

does EX are same as the meta showdown lv15?

[stark quiver]

no, as a reference only 3 ppl passed hard as of now in amagi server
also cuz its first day of event

[crimson grove]

idk

[blissful hamlet]

Only 1 avi

[crimson grove]

4 in sandy

[atomic abyss]

Significantly harder

[keen sable]

hard not at all. get hit die or close to it

[unborn owl]

why it reminds me with touhou?

[atomic abyss]

Meta showdown you can actually auto

[stark quiver]

if the pink barrage touches your ships theyre cooked

[unborn owl]

well i guess i can't do EX due the lag issue

[stark quiver]

luckily i found a way to dodge them

[crimson grove]

fun

[keen sable]

because AL is a real-time side scrolling bullet hell

[unborn owl]

at the first thought, it does.

should i max out eldridge kai or mogador?

[atomic abyss]

Both

[crimson grove]

oh normal ex is a pain too cause its three phases

[unborn owl]

kay

[stark quiver]

for now closest ive gotten to EX hard is stage 2

[crimson grove]

draft i died

[vestal thistle]

What gear to put on amagi

[crimson grove]

okay auto attemp two

I think we use a healer instead of this triple cv this hard mode?

[stark quiver]

the heals dont outweigh the damage

[atomic abyss]

Depends on where you're using her
For generic farming
Flapjack/Hellcat, Tenrai/Helldiver, Wyvern/Barracuda

[hollow gust]

EX was easy asf

[unborn owl]

which ship are good with this plane beside nakhimov (didn't d30 yet)

[timid moon]

can people do stage 3?

[thorn tartan]

C and D zones open day 1?

[atomic abyss]

Almost all anti boss carriers
It's the best converging torp bomber in the game

[stark quiver]

new format yes, also you can complete all stages in 1 run for each

[atomic abyss]

B and D, but yes

[stark quiver]

hard mode ex?

[unborn owl]

so that's just better version of ryuusei?

[hollow gust]

oh wait theres another ex?

[stark quiver]

yea switch to hard mode

[atomic abyss]

Slower but stronger ryusei yes

Only if you clear hard can you get leaderboard

[hollow gust]

shouldnt be too hard

[crimson grove]

how is anyone clearing hard mode stage 3
its literally all fire

[stark quiver]

yea, which is what im tryng to dodge

[ripe bluff]

AP or HE for Kearsarge

[sinful escarp]

fire extinguishers

[crimson grove]

time to put touhou skills to use

[stark quiver]

tell me how it goes

[hollow gust]

i give up

[stark quiver]

[hollow gust]

ill try another time, need to finish amagi tn

[crimson grove]

you latest 3 mins

[atomic abyss]

Depends on what boss you're fighting

Light? HE
Med? AP

[sweet delta]

this will be my low score fleet

[slow fox]

Some 2% eHP-posting

[stark quiver]

you must have great trust in your manualing skills suchi

[thorn tartan]

this is 2 week event right?

[stark quiver]

3

[thorn tartan]

well plenty of time to get my points then

[stark quiver]

If I dodge better, then hard mode is possible

[unborn owl]

well, fml

[stark quiver]

amazing dodging

thats hard right?

[remote yarrow]

Is that the normal EX or Hard?

[unborn owl]

i got framed

[stark quiver]

so is that hardor normal

[hushed dawn]

Anything I can improve on this fleet for Nagato META?

[remote yarrow]

Kazagumo's gun maybe

[hushed dawn]

Anything else?

[thorn tartan]

Youkachi's interface looks a bit different than mine

[remote yarrow]

I think that's pretty much it

[hushed dawn]

Damn.

[thorn tartan]

what is the gun on musashi?

[remote yarrow]

Her own

[hushed dawn]

Triple 460mm. Aka, the Yamato gun.

[thorn tartan]

i don't think i have that

[unborn owl]

it's from her banner

[hushed dawn]

Musashi will be rerunning soon, so don't miss it!

[stark quiver]

are all the bosses medium armor?
also fluffs, got any wisdom?

[crimson grove]

why not use haku imp nano arent the armor types anti heavy

[dusk maple]

got a migraine attack today, haven't tried ex yet. all bosses are med armour as always?

[stark quiver]

pretty sure yea, anyways, hard mode ex is a real killer

[crimson grove]

time to copy this hw cause I didnt touch meta in months

[sweet delta]

5598

[stark quiver]

[hushed dawn]

It's a CN comp I copied from Hoffen. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/528197562998718474/1283539773536997467/20240912_002653.png?ex=66e4ae91&is=66e35d11&hm=08dc0c5a32f8c16d029d2ec3a8204125bc54552d5c9f93a668a9d8160b3df7a9&

[remote yarrow]

Hoffen

[stark quiver]

and thats hard right?

[sweet delta]

considering that normal doesnt give a score

[stark quiver]

oh yea
well time to quit the game

[crimson grove]

excuse me what is that kaza gun

[hushed dawn]

British DD gun. Found on Gear Lab.

[unborn owl]

why goldburn?

[hushed dawn]

Provides lots of health.

[crimson grove]

and the torps and aa on unzen?

[hushed dawn]

The torps are American, from the Gear Lab too.
AA is Italian, craftable from Research.

[thorn tartan]

why do you use ju 87 over ryusei?

[remote yarrow]

Wait now that I think of it

[hushed dawn]

Idk dawg, I just do what the comp tells me to do.

[remote yarrow]

Couldn't you use the IJN AA on Unzen?

[hushed dawn]

Will it make a difference?

[remote yarrow]

yeah

It's better than Twin 134 when used by IJN CAs

[hushed dawn]

Ohhhh it has an FP buff, neat.

[remote yarrow]

[crimson grove]

why the american torps in particular?

dont want to spend a fortune to make +13 torps lol

[hushed dawn]

Idk, I didn't use those torps in mine cuz I don't like them.

[remote yarrow]

I think they have a buff on first torp? I might be talking out of my ass
I am

[odd pivot]

I have a question, so currently I'm level 89, if I buy the level 70 boost pack, it won't bring my level down right?

[thorn tartan]

what is the IJN AA?

[keen sable]

they're just the best auto torp against non moving enemies

[stark quiver]

also did u oneshot everything

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_80mm_AA_(Type_98)#Type_0-0

[thorn tartan]

i guess i need to craft one for unzen

[keen sable]

it's best by like 2 or 3 firepower iirc...which is a really tiny amount

[sweet delta]

done || #media-content ||

[thorn tartan]

i could use more AA guns anyway

[stark quiver]

i stuck my fleet in first wave of pink shit at the bottom left
took 0 damage

[crimson grove]

naruhodo

[full bay]

What should I spend gems on

[thorn tartan]

generally, dock space.

i also bought the 2nd floor of the dorm

[remote yarrow]

3rd dorm slot + 2nd floor and the rest on dock

[strong tartan]

dorm slot 3, dorm floor 2, dock space

[stark quiver]

aint no way its the guy again
i see he gained some levels

[full bay]

How important is dorm?

[remote yarrow]

pretty important for farming continuously

[sinful escarp]

its important for morale, its the only way your ships will reach 150 morale which gives bonus exp

[remote yarrow]

So your ships don't get tired as fast and recover morale faster

[full bay]

Also why 3rd dorm slot specifically, is there any reason not to unlock more

[thorn tartan]

i have 4 slots

[remote yarrow]

Cuz you get 3 slots and 2nd floor doubles them so you can have a full fleet resting

[full bay]

I see

[remote yarrow]

Though second floor doesn't have passive exp, just a higher morale recovery

[bold cove]

on no, D1 and D3 TPD requirment is no go for me 😦

[thorn tartan]

usually one mob fleet will be handling a lot of battles so you put them in the dorm so they don't get tired as quickly and recover faster

[remote yarrow]

MLB Kasumi meta for torp stat

[sinful escarp]

just use 1 fleet for clearing and the other fleet for the stat requirements

[storm heron]

or just switch boss and mob fleet mid-farm

[full bay]

Btw is there a way to haste skill upgrade at academy

[sinful escarp]

certain events will have that, but otherwise nope

[full bay]

Damn

[bold cove]

thanks for this advice

[full bay]

Also what’s the point of the social media thing, the phone icon on the left

[thorn tartan]

none as far as i can tell

[keen sable]

flavor

[boreal temple]

Who has higher mlb priority between alsace and amagi

[bold cove]

interact with waifu?

[sinful escarp]

wait until the end of the event, you may get more amagi dupes

[boreal temple]

I pitied

[storm heron]

depends on what you have

[boreal temple]

So I ain't pulling no more

[storm heron]

daily light build it is

[bold cove]

so normally, as a F2P and new, stop pulling when i get UR right?

[boreal temple]

Every UR except alsace and my cursed amagi are mlb

[west lichen]

ok so for hiei meta, how do we get the somatic crystals to rank her up?

[keen sable]

get more dupes or buy the crystals

[storm heron]

well I don't think it matters then

[west lichen]

ohhhh i see they are in the shop

[storm heron]

just mlb whoever you wanna use

[crimson grove]

Mu units dont give tech do they?
I never remember properly

[remote yarrow]

Nope

Neither do small or collab ships

[odd pivot]

Ermm anyone?

[remote yarrow]

Oh no, lol

[odd pivot]

Ic ok. Safe to buy ig.

[remote yarrow]

But it doesn't really give much stuff outside of some bulins and some gear

[keen sable]

it's past it's freshness date

[remote yarrow]

The blue ones will probably not be helpful

[odd pivot]

Well, I need the xp books since I'm not 100 yet

And if I'm not wrong is actually purple books which is useful for raising new units/ 125

[storm heron]

I don't think it's worth buying if you have access to oil cap stages

[remote yarrow]

uuuh I don't think you should exp book a ship past 100, it gets really expensive

Just grind at that point

[storm heron]

Let me introduce you to gems

[vestal thistle]

What alux for new amagi

[crimson glacier]

aux? same as all other carriers, more avi the better

[vestal thistle]

K

[stark quiver]

Does implac do more damage against medium than Alsace

In a short fight like ex rn

[sweet delta]

Against an enemy with 0 AA I would hope so, against EX certainly not

[stark quiver]

Ex has AA

[bright tusk]

How to dodge this phase?

[sweet delta]

Kill them faster

[frank pulsar]

manual better, or watch a video on how others do it
ex boss usually have a few patterns they cycle through continuously

[full bay]

is there an accurate tier list I can look at

[topaz smelt]

Often patterns are easily dodged by studder stepping along the back wall

[exotic wren]

Wait, Mamagi can't share skin with alt?

[shell willow]

cant

[atomic abyss]

Yes, she cannot. it's even mentioned in the game tool tips

[exotic wren]

Oof

[atomic abyss]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

This only applies for campaign up to w13

It doesn't apply to w14/15 and opsi

[austere shard]

comp to one shot nagato meta?

[remote yarrow]

Here's CN comps if it helps

[atomic abyss]

Amagi/Musashi Shinano Hakuryuu
Unzen, Kazagumo, Mogador

If insufficient tech, use Helena over Mogador

[shell willow]

what tech?

[remote yarrow]

rld I guess

[wary timber]

And.... is this gun good on any ships at all ..

[atomic abyss]

SAP so no

[midnight pewter]

so i bought the new UI but i dont know how activate it, im still using the old UI

[undone plover]

Click your secretary top left > style

[finite crag]

roughly how much dmg increase from +10 to +13 ryuusei

[atomic abyss]

Follow red arrows

[midnight pewter]

oh thank yoU!

[undone plover]

18%

[finite crag]

i see

[wide kestrel]

So the third UI can be bought in two packs
One with UI only
Other with about 3.6k gems
Is the no gem option a trial of sorts? As in, you pay for cheaper option, you get the UI for a limited time with an option to buy the big bundle later?

[atomic abyss]

No

[remote yarrow]

No

[atomic abyss]

It's literally just the UI on its own with no gems

[remote yarrow]

It's either UI by itself or UI + 3k gems

[undone plover]

Big bundle is like adding a double gem pack to the UI

[remote yarrow]

UI + 3k gems is worth in terms of gems if you already bought the $40 x2 pack

[wide kestrel]

Aight, cool
There are games that sell cheaper deals as a time trial
I wanted to make sure it is not the case

[undone plover]

It has similar gem ratio to double gem pack tbh so worth anyway from a gem value pov

[wide kestrel]

$37 is quite a lot for me tbh

[austere shard]

Gear?

[wide kestrel]

I know there are whales that spend like, $1000 every month on this game but geez

[austere shard]

Well this is a start for sure until I get Amagi to 125/200

[finite crag]

how do you know how much tech to use

[austere shard]

You can go by this game with 0 to almost no spending. Don’t worry about whales. Most of the gems go into skins etc however I do suggest you do check out the command “/gems” in #bot-console for the best way to spend the gems you have

[remote yarrow]

Theres's the thing, you don't

[finite crag]

awesomesauce

[remote yarrow]

goodsoup

[cobalt rapids]

For which comp

[eternal basalt]

“/gems” in ⁠Geen toegang

[finite crag]

the ones with musa and haku nano

[cobalt rapids]

I used 11 rld but depends on ur planes and oaths

[finite crag]

no oaths double ryuusei for example

[wide kestrel]

Dock space baby, I know that

[cobalt rapids]

Im on phone so i cant rlly calc but ull prob need more than 30 on that setup if i had to ballpark it

[wide kestrel]

I have ca 800 gems from probably last time I bought a cruise pass (2022)

[atomic abyss]

Let's be real, 1 shotting metas isn't the norm for the average player

[topaz smelt]

yes it is

[atomic abyss]

You are not an average player

Average players do not go making guides for others

Only excellent players do

Otherwise the guide would be extremely questionable

[topaz smelt]

Ye they do, look on yt

[austere shard]

Yeah okay so
What’s the comp gear?
I am below the average so should be fine

[remote yarrow]

~~He's not wrong ~~

[atomic abyss]

It's the stuff smoothie posted

[austere shard]

There is no amagi in there though

[atomic abyss]

Because no one would have amagi 125-ed and SL10

But our tests with SL1 already show that she can ohko

[full musk]

I-58 < U-37 right?

[austere shard]

True forgot we have to lv skills as well

[atomic abyss]

You would avoid building a sub fleet entirely here
Not enough good subs

[austere shard]

Guess poor man comp it is

Ty

[atomic abyss]

But yes, u-37 is better

[queen jackal]

does hard mode on events usually not have 3 star clear rewards?

[crimson glacier]

if amagi can ohko then that more of a showcase of boss being too easy than amagi being strong

[atomic abyss]

They do not
They share them with normal mode

[queen jackal]

whoops, been wasting oil

[crimson glacier]

well not really, you can just skip normal mode and do 3 stars on hard

[plush lantern]

what is amagi's contruction time?

[queen jackal]

u can skip normal?

[atomic abyss]

4:40

[crimson glacier]

you never have to do normal on events

[plush lantern]

thank you

[atomic abyss]

Since the game launched, yes

[queen jackal]

[wind hazel]

if you can low oil it, you should do normal

[queen jackal]

my oil

[crimson glacier]

i see no reason to do normal even with that

[wind hazel]

it has daily bonus point

[crimson glacier]

and i dont see that as useful

[austere shard]

also less oil to spend with cheap comp for rewards I guess

[wind hazel]

that's stupid lol

farming point is literally why you do event in the first place

why would you skip something that give you extra

[crimson glacier]

and i get all the points and more in d stages

[shell willow]

before it was good, but with 1 run 100% 3 star idk if its worth bothering

[austere shard]

you can farm tons of points with enough oil in D3

[topaz smelt]

Cuz time is a precious resource

[remote yarrow]

Plus you can get Hiei

[austere shard]

it's 1 run 3 stars for D?

[wind hazel]

it's 1 run for every map

but yes before oil cap kick in on D, you're using so much more oil

[shell willow]

if u kill all mobs too its 1 run every map

[remote yarrow]

Yep, pretty cool QoL update

[austere shard]

never realised, used to be 2-3

yeah quite good

[wind hazel]

4oil vs x oil you use on D map, go do the maths lol

[atomic abyss]

They just updated it

[shell willow]

this is first event like this yea

[austere shard]

ah this makes sense

ok ok ok

thought I missed it the entire time

[rose cosmos]

So amagi cv wants a kaga to work?

[atomic abyss]

No she doesn't kaga is trash
So is Akagi

Just ignore that part of her s3 entirely

[remote yarrow]

It's bait flavor text

[topaz smelt]

wait for akagi meta

[rose cosmos]

Wait so technically shinano and amagi pair well together no

[crimson glacier]

they did that even before amagi skills were shown

[atomic abyss]

Yes, her best comp is likely with Shinano

[queen jackal]

yippee double fox

[rose cosmos]

Damn lack 2 more bulins for immediately amagi use smh

[quick ridge]

Is Amagi worth it?

[atomic abyss]

UR so yes

[quick ridge]

But does she stand out compared to any others?

[rose cosmos]

DPS wise how good is watarase

[atomic abyss]

Better than Shinano and Hakuryuu probably

[atomic abyss]

We don't know, come back in a week after we can test

[quick ridge]

I'm debating mlbing Shimakaze or Amagi CV

[atomic abyss]

Amagi without question

[inland shoal]

She's only just been released and has a very unique strong barrage with weird timing so at least I am pretty clueless

[atomic abyss]

Shima is perma and extremely low priority

[hushed dawn]

Does the CN comp for Nagato META have any tech requirements?

[full musk]

Man I wish Azur lane would let you auto complete battles against mobs and quick clear story stages (even if farming them is much less important compared to BA)

[inland shoal]

#game-feedback

[trim tapir]

Does akagi U'count for the sake of Amagi skill?

[inland shoal]

All variants count

[rain bobcat]

yes

[trim tapir]

Sickkkkk

Thank you

[inland shoal]

Even Kaga BB

[edgy steeple]

@remote yarrow

[remote yarrow]

[plain saffron]

@remote yarrow

[remote yarrow]

[atomic abyss]

Already suggested multiple times
It's very unlikely to be implemented tho

Not when you already have practically infinite stamina as is

[livid wyvern]

Which retrofit is better?

Both got cool retro skins but I wanna know which performs better as a BB

[remote yarrow]

If they follow the power scale like Colorado and West Virgninia, they should be sidegrades

[stoic flicker]

So I dont understand something, I put these ships to rest in the dorm last night and now I woke up and they;re the same morale as last night, why? do i need to have the game open or something? and yes supplies are maxed out

[wet prairie]

Reload game, sometimes if you leave the game running morale doesn’t change

[stoic flicker]

yeah that worked thank you

[atomic abyss]

Equal for the most part

In fact, based on their kits, the game is actively pushing you to use all 3 Colorados together

[inland shoal]

Supplies have 0 influence on morale recovery btw

[atomic abyss]

If you can't pick, just invest in Nelson

[crimson glacier]

using them together still isnt good tho

[dry tree]

Hello, Need help for fleet building against Nagato Meta.

I usually always end with her hp on 35% max.

Any suggestions on fleet building to make the fight easier?

Musashi and Shinano are always 200k in damage, but the third slot always falls below or flat 100k.

Vanguard are fine dealing 80k each.

[atomic abyss]

Drop Shimanto and Shimakaze
Get in Kazagumo and Helena

As for implacable, get her to 125
Or use Hakuryuu

[stoic flicker]

is 3m xp enough to go from 100 to 120?

[atomic abyss]

With about 800-900k exp to spare, yes

At least, for non UR/DR

Those will have about 500k to spare instead

[grizzled sundial]

Most of the Nagato meta bully video i saw have backline full of UR , some of which currently not available , it is truly impossible to beat her in 1 run using only SSR ?

[atomic abyss]

Not even remotely possible, at best 2HKO or maybe close to 1HKO

With the exception of enterprise, most SSRs simply lack the damage to compete with their UR counterparts

The UR DPSes are in an entirely different league

You probably can 1HKO the much older metas with just SSRs though, admittedly (like Helmet)

[grizzled sundial]

Also , how do i trigger the armor break ? Use AP gun ?

[atomic abyss]

BB AP gun vs heavy armour, or armour break skills like Agir/Guam

There are other sources too, but they're not used usually

[muted ember]

so,should I go all in on MLBing Amagic CV or save up Bulins for Musashi

[remote yarrow]

Depends on what your other URs are

[muted ember]

only Shinano who is already MLB'd

also should I do this?

[remote yarrow]

BBs are easier to gear than CVs early on so maybe Alsace

Unless you wanna wait for Musashi

[muted ember]

I'm guessing this is on upgrade thing to +13?

[muted ember]

I mean she is coming in a few weeks right?

[remote yarrow]

Nope

[rain bobcat]

earliest november but maybe next year tbh

[remote yarrow]

We don't even know if she will rerun this year, they would need her to squeeze her weirdly somewhere in early november

[muted ember]

oh then I got heaps of time

[remote yarrow]

Yeah it's worth it but, you don't really got many plates right now so I would wait

[muted ember]

absolutely not,I think I'll stick with +10 rn

[rain bobcat]

was there even a UR rerun last year in november

oh wait it was shima iirc

[muted ember]

also on average,when do URs have reruns?

[rain bobcat]

2-3 years

[muted ember]

yikes- that's certainly a while-

[rain bobcat]

well its basically 2 years

[muted ember]

one of the friends who got me to play said to safe for Musashi and Implacable this correct?

[rain bobcat]

[coarse heron]

Mirror Involution took 2 years, Upon the Shimmering Blue took 2 years, Dreamwaker's Butterfly took 2 years, so yeah 2 years seems to be a pattern

[warm latch]

UR events are what youre saving for

[eternal basalt]

All took over 2 years to be precise

[muted ember]

well rn saving for Musashi now that I got Amagi CV in 12 pulls

[coarse heron]

Dreamwaker's didn't

Shimmering Blue took 2 years + 1 week

[warm latch]

theres a new UR event in dec if nothing changes

[grizzled sundial]

Then save it , you already got this event UR, may be pull 1 a day and hope you get the rest of banner

[rain bobcat]

last year was quite fked so it might be the same this year

last year we had a UR on nov dec and jan

[coarse heron]

2 months less than 2 years actually

[eternal basalt]

2022 (or 23?) had collab reruns, so less reruns to get onto now

[muted ember]

I actually also got Watarase,so the only one I'm really missing is Suzunami

since Hiei META is in the shop

[grizzled sundial]

Then you are pretty much good to go , Watarase is easy to pull , so some said .

[remote yarrow]

Last 2 events reran after 784 days, if Musashi follows the same she should rerun in early November, but that's speculation

[formal crag]

Do we now know which team comps best suited for nagato meta

[muted ember]

no I got Watarase alongside Amagi,just missing Suzu

[remote yarrow]

How is she easy to pull when it's literally a 2%

[grizzled sundial]

Sorry , i mistake with the purple one

[coarse heron]

the elite curse strikes again

[eternal basalt]

There have been no rare ones for YEARS (darn; they fixed)

[muted ember]

it sure did

[remote yarrow]

Man this EX is hard, tried for like half an hour and only beat second phase 3 times and died instantly

[muted ember]

also which faction has the best T4 loot box loot

[plain saffron]

Uss

[grizzled sundial]

Eagle !

[coarse heron]

America

[muted ember]

dang,Murica gaming

[grizzled sundial]

Seriously , they got good stuffs from the box , meanwhile IB have nothing , the next good one may be Royal or Sakura ...

[coarse heron]

The rest of them are equally bad

[grizzled sundial]

Even gold catapult ?

[muted ember]

ngl,the only nice thing I see from T4 IB is quad magnetic

[coarse heron]

That's in every tech box and the only reason to open tech boxes

[rain bobcat]

its in everything

[grizzled sundial]

What about the gold 406 , roomba and pompom ?

[coarse heron]

the 406 is

[rain bobcat]

roomba is rn

[coarse heron]

So the problem with the Gold 406 is it's Normal Ammo

[atomic abyss]

gold 406 from tech box is trash
roomba from royal
pom pom is trash too

[coarse heron]

the problem with the Pom Pom is the Quad Bofors exists

[atomic abyss]

it's not that

pom poms have high AA dps but pitiful range

[rain bobcat]

its the range

[alpine trench]

which one should I upgrade first

[rain bobcat]

mamagi and shinano

[wet prairie]

Amagi since you’ve already started

[atomic abyss]

amagi and save

assuming you can actually mlb amagi

otherwise ignore all non mlb URs

[alpine trench]

I already have these two. My friend told me musashi was coming, but she's still nowhere .

[atomic abyss]

musashi is the next UR due for rerun, but we dont know when

[alpine trench]

[remote yarrow]

Musashi would need to be squished somewhere in early november or she probably won't rerun this year

[finite crag]

how long does it take to max out 3 skills

[atomic abyss]

~10 days iirc

[rain bobcat]

9-10 is the fastest

[finite crag]

such a pointless mechanic

[dawn crater]

Which SR ship drops at D3?

[atomic abyss]

hiei meta

[dawn crater]

Oh ok nice

[rain bobcat]

its 6 rainbow books for 1 skill which is 3 days so yeah 9 unless you miss refreshing

[half plover]

is eldrige retro used in w14 too or just w15?

[wet prairie]

Eldritch kai has a use?

[half plover]

she replaced jeanne d arc iirc

[atomic abyss]

she can, but not the best choice, since her AA isn't that fantastic

[half plover]

oh ok

[atomic abyss]

extremely good for replacing tanks, and for slowing enemies

[wet prairie]

Damn

Might actually retro her, though is she worth retroing if I have basically all the URs and most of the decent SRs

[atomic abyss]

if you have the resources, you don't really lose anything

[rain bobcat]

its fine to and not to

[wet prairie]

Hmm ok

[rain bobcat]

unless you broke

[wet prairie]

Does she do stuff better than existing options?

[atomic abyss]

no one beats her in "making a team tankier" (she replaces JdA)
no one beats her in ASW
no vanguard ship beats her in terms of a potent slow that's very easy to time

sure she's no tank or DPS or AA carry on her own

but you don't usually get so many things in 1 package

like sure, agir is tankier and has a slow too
but then you need to actually sync her torps, which can be an absolute pain

[wet prairie]

Her “during attack” includes later shell volleys and aircraft travel time or no

If so imma try and cope with tri-sakura CV

[atomic abyss]

what would even be your 3rd sakura CV

would you even have amagi maxed yet lol

and such slows only work for slower moving bosses to begin with

[wet prairie]

Yes, ignoring skills

[atomic abyss]

you usually want an outright freezer

[digital vault]

When is the shinano beach skin coming back

[wet prairie]

Hence why I said cope

[rain bobcat]

19

[viral flicker]

Can this 6 survive 10.4?

[sharp socket]

the backline will probably do everything but yes

[warm latch]

wheres your portland and starter dd?

[unborn owl]

3rd wyvern or 10th flapjack?

[sharp socket]

you might want to get some better, MLB frontline

[viral flicker]

They won't die right?

[atomic abyss]

assuming battles end fast enough, theyll live

very questionable frontline tho

[warm latch]

you have to use both to level 100 and retrofit them to complete beginner missions

[sharp socket]

i fail to see where someone would need 10 flapjacks so ill go with 3rd wyvern

[atomic abyss]

...they're probably not a new player, with the 125 biscuit and fdg mlb

they're probably grinding for napoli

[warm latch]

oh

[viral flicker]

Huh

Everyone thinks I am a new player bruh

[sharp socket]

also why are you doing 10-4, 12-1 seems doable with uni in there if the frontline gets like 10 more levels

[viral flicker]

I need for NAPOLI

[warm latch]

10-4 and low frontline limit breaks

[atomic abyss]

and 12-1 will make it faster

[viral flicker]

I am farming for her

[sharp socket]

having MLB would basically be guarantee living anyway

[unborn owl]

beside exchange, where can i get UR BP?

[warm latch]

12-1 or 12-4 are way better for farming

[viral flicker]

But don't have gold bulins

[atomic abyss]

opsi? rng drop from abyssals and strongholds and arbiter

[viral flicker]

That's the problem orelse why would I be doing 10.4

[atomic abyss]

doesn't matter - 12-1 is weaker than 10-4

[finite crag]

what ur bp

[viral flicker]

So those 6 can defeat 12.1?

[unborn owl]

gear bp. not DR

[atomic abyss]

easily

[crimson glacier]

you could just try things out

[errant fog]

Whats the best loadout for mamagi?

[finite crag]

yea what gear? like the ur gear bps or the gearlab mats?

[atomic abyss]

depends on where you're using her

[viral flicker]

Too lazy

[crimson glacier]

too lazy to press 1 buttom but not too lazy to go post on discord

[atomic abyss]

10-4 is 🐌 by comparison

[viral flicker]

I take your word on that or should I lb kron to be safe?

[atomic abyss]

you have unicorn there
they'll be fine

[hardy igloo]

Hello guys, I’m level 55 and have 180 cubes, do you think I should pull on the new banner ?

[atomic abyss]

UR so always pull at least 1 copy

[finite crag]

always pull UR banners

[crimson glacier]

if you cant guarantee then is amagi even worth pulling

[shell willow]

in 3 weeks you can surely get enough cubes

[atomic abyss]

torva what are you smoking

[hardy igloo]

Thanks for the advice !

[finite crag]

the reason youre saving is to pull ur banners anyways why skip one

[coarse heron]

Another red hot take from GPH

[crimson glacier]

i just dont think she changes carrier stuff too much

[atomic abyss]

it's not impossible to get ships early lol

[sharp socket]

if its UR just pull

[atomic abyss]

torva, what part of cmdr lvl 55 did you not understand

[crimson glacier]

what part of it matters

[faint kite]

any issues with the gearing here like with sync and stuff or any other issue? been unable to auto Scharnhorst META. time up right before final shelling from the BBs leaving around 14 HP bars.

[atomic abyss]

you think he's gonna have haku, nano, impla and yk2 already?

[shell willow]

they probably dont have any other UR cv lol

[crimson glacier]

do they need those either

[coarse heron]

bruh

[finite crag]

yea why even pull anything you dont really need any ship

[unborn owl]

fleet recommendation?

[crimson glacier]

and i didnt even say dont pull, i just questioned it

[atomic abyss]

by that argument, you dont need any particular ship at all besides unicorn

torva, stop with your hot takes and go back to #al-general or #off-topic

[wet prairie]

You could probably beat W15-4 with starters, idk if it’s worth it

[crimson glacier]

and if musashi rerun comes soonish and they miss her, thats going to hurt hell of a lot more than missing amagi

[atomic abyss]

ah yes, we assuming that she's gonna rerun soon now

[crimson glacier]

who is assuming anything

[warm latch]

musashi rerun more likely to be next year than in november

[errant fog]

Eh nothign extreme, just got her snd im using her for Daisen grind while grinding event stages. I see she can equip multiple plane type in a slot.

[crimson glacier]

you ppl really see everything in black and white huh

[atomic abyss]

fighter db tb for general use

[coarse heron]

Not particularly hard, just means your vanguard can't damage the boss with guns after 30%

[worldly pewter]

well u are already inside it u can't change anything but the gear

[unborn owl]

3cv or 3bb?

[crimson glacier]

what does it matter

[atomic abyss]

youkachi, we dont even know what ships you have in those fleets

[crimson glacier]

you cant even change your fleets, just attack it

[atomic abyss]

you probably need more than 1 given your gear anyways

[sharp socket]

BB fleet with matching damage to armor type has always worked for me so just try something, or send your BB, CV and mob in

[crimson glacier]

yes attacking the enemies usually works indeed

i have noticed that when i dont do anything, the enemies seem to not die

[sharp socket]

adapts look good so its able to kill in 3 fleets if the gear and ships arent complete trash

[errant fog]

Tqvm daddy Ender.

[unborn owl]

i don't like when she reach x30. she become invulnerable

[wet prairie]

I see zwei, NJ and Alsace, you should be fine if your gearing and ships are correct

[sharp socket]

if it kills it kills why worry

[crimson glacier]

there is no ship that turns invulnerable

[unborn owl]

she just summon her shield imo. but okay

[wet prairie]

Pretty sure there is one that turns all damage to 0 for like 5 seconds

[crimson glacier]

the shield does literally nothing

[coarse heron]

that shield is nothing, vanguard bullets aren't much of your DPS

[atomic abyss]

probably nagato meta
but we need to test to be sure
come back in a week

[plain saffron]

But we can't test nagato yet even after a week

[atomic abyss]

well, we can conclude regarding hiei at least

[unborn owl]

any replacement? (1st one just corrosion clearing)

[worldly pewter]

cats are a little bit sus

i d use a hako nano comp and yk kearsarge in the other slot

[unborn owl]

no kearsarge. still d20

[worldly pewter]

then this is a little bit out of my area of expertise

the only boss that is cancer against cv is the abyssal harmony in which u want a bb fleet but the rest can be done with cvs just fine that is why having 2 bb fleets is kinda suboptimal

[crimson glacier]

i dont think that matters whatsoever when you run around with full URs

[worldly pewter]

i remember i used enty as main dps against c6 harmony
she did around 150k damage

[exotic wren]

^this, unless you are like me with massive skill issue and laziness, you should be able to clear about everything

[still merlin]

is watarase any good as like a support or off tank or dmg?

[crimson glacier]

doesnt seem that good to me

looks like just basic gold CL

[unborn owl]

is this BB or CA?

[crimson glacier]

CA

[rain bobcat]

or uh just attack it without fleet lock

[crimson glacier]

yeah it doesnt make any difference

[storm heron]

how does one go to b1?

[crimson glacier]

you wait

[storm heron]

I pressed next

timer where?

[unborn owl]

thx

[crimson glacier]

you really dont need to keep posting these

[storm heron]

no like timer where

[crimson glacier]

i didnt say that to you

[atomic abyss]

There is no longer a timer

[storm heron]

wait nvm

[atomic abyss]

All maps are open from day1

[crimson glacier]

they really changed it?

[unborn owl]

i think this qol is kinda balance

[atomic abyss]

Yes they changed it

[storm heron]

okay so apparently the ui is bugged on ipad, I cannot press on the arrows since the arrows bring me to A3

[crimson glacier]

damn im about to beat c3

[unborn owl]

like i just clear the stage once after swept all of mobs

[crimson glacier]

didnt know about the change

[coarse heron]

every event map also only needs 1 clear for 3 stars and 100% now

Also an easy mode EX with no ranking was added, all it does is let you get the 500 cog chips

[mystic topaz]

hmm, i don't get it.. a lot of guides keep saying that the shipyard blueprints for series 1, 2, 3 and pr of series 4 are purchaseable with coins, but i don't see any option for it?

[finite crag]

unlock the ship then youll see it

[atomic abyss]

you need to obtain the ship first

[plain saffron]

You don't use coins to buy the bp for these ships
You use coins in place of bp

So you need to have them first, can't buy daily and hoard

[unborn owl]

which oil cost are cheaper?
BB UR or BB Gold META?

[atomic abyss]

BB gold META

not that oil cost should matter

[plain saffron]

None of them are cheap tbh
Meta cheaper by 1 oil

[coarse heron]

ever since oil cap no reason to even think about oil cost

[plain saffron]

And if you're low oil costing both of them are bad for that

Unless you doing event sp then I'll see a reason at least

[half plover]

I mean if u can lowcost the best stage it might be good but no idea how hard it is

[coarse heron]

low costing you'd be using a monitor instead of a BB

[plain saffron]

Musashi solo 14-1 cog farm

[half plover]

how many bb are needed for w14 btw?

[atomic abyss]

1 for each fleet, assuming they're good ones ofc

[half plover]

so alsace, vanguard and fdg are enough?

[atomic abyss]

fdg and alsace are enough yes

[half plover]

I would ask for fleet help but I think I am missing some good vanguards so idk if I can beat w14 yet

at least amagi might be another great cv for w14 and 15

[coarse heron]

oil cap being 35 means you need to use some pretty low end ships to get significantly below it
Not worth imo

[atomic abyss]

14 yes, 15 questionable, since you may want a secondary healer

[rain bobcat]

oath skins are 26 yes?

[half plover]

14-4 drops new orleans so that would be an achievement enough haha

[atomic abyss]

for bossing, 1 DB 2 TB
for anything else, doesn't matter

[half plover]

for w15 I would at least need some decent submarines, illustrious and eldrige ig

who was the aquila replacement again for w15, was it zuihao?

[rain bobcat]

I mean yo ucan still go 0 3 5 for mob

[atomic abyss]

volga is stronger, but yes zui works too

[rain bobcat]

or 0 5 3 for more coverage

[half plover]

I got volga so that should be fine

is kazagumo worth to lvl up to 125?

[atomic abyss]

yes - so she doesnt die prematurely in opsi/meta

[half plover]

saratoga isn't, right?

[atomic abyss]

probably not

[rain bobcat]

eh depends

[atomic abyss]

unless you intend to use her for w14/15

[rain bobcat]

if ur a massive simp like nagami who occasionally bosses with her or smth sure

[half plover]

haha yeah I might do that if I have enough arrays but rn I have to save

do I need cheshire for w14/15 as a tank?

[strange pier]

Y'all who out of the four do I run on BB Fleet for OpSi: BZwei NJ UvH FdG? UvH and NJ aren't max LB yet since I'm prioritizing my Amagi CV and Shinano

[half plover]

bzwei fdg and another sr maybe

[atomic abyss]

BZ, FdG and a good SR BB

[half plover]

I think I messed up to use all pr s6 blueprints on felix schultz instead of shimanto

[rain bobcat]

[half plover]

is there a replacement for shimanto?

[rain bobcat]

where

[strange pier]

I don't know what good SR BBs are there so help me pick ;-;
(Soyuz at the moment is in my BB Fleet but once I get Admiral for Parliament Fleet I'm gonna have to replace her with the SR BB in question which is why I'm asking in advance)

[half plover]

w14/w15

[rain bobcat]

probably odin

also you might just wanna finish UVH instead of blue balling her

[atomic abyss]

just use war retro for now...

she's already 125, might as well

[rain bobcat]

haven't heard of this sentence in years

[atomic abyss]

but yes, uvh once you get her mlb will replace war retro

[strange pier]

Aight thanks y'all

[rain bobcat]

harbin cheshire

[half plover]

pr5 isn't coinable yet so I think cheshire would be my next prio then

is felix used in any content tho?

[atomic abyss]

lmao no

[rain bobcat]

wtf no pr5 but has pr6

[half plover]

I don't have pr6 I just used all my blueprints 😭

and I think most of the event ones were pr6 so I dont have that many pr5 yet

[valid apex]

i saw felix in updated pvp spreadsheet iirc

[odd pivot]

What gear should put on Amagi cv?

[atomic abyss]

for what use

[odd pivot]

Mobbin

[atomic abyss]

fighter db tb then

[crimson glacier]

just use the default fighter db tb

[half plover]

would amagi cv replace any ship for 13 hard? or maybe the new sr cl too

or is it too early to tell

[atomic abyss]

too early to tell

[unborn owl]

[dry tree]

Wait, Saratoga is Meta on w13?

[rain bobcat]

I dont think that is touching 13h anyway....

[half plover]

this fleet was mainly for 13-1 and 13-2 hard

[atomic abyss]

it'll work outside taihou

[exotic wren]

That's enough AA?

[half plover]

for mob it isn't, for boss it is

most ships are 123-125 now

but I cleared w13 on my first hard try (even tho I failed 2 tries after that) so it should be alright

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[half plover]

hi

[whole crypt]

depends on what killed you but nothing more AA won't fix

[unborn owl]

how to enchance meta ship again?

[whole crypt]

meta lab

[half plover]

I think I had no idea about nodes so I just attacked some heavy hitting bb with 0 bullets or so

[whole crypt]

then it's just a DPS issue

[half plover]

and I didn't adjust formations, I am still using the standard one

yeah, juneau is good aa but doesn't deal any damage

[whole crypt]

single line bad

[half plover]

maybe I should change that then

[atomic abyss]

honestly, your mob vanguard is very anaemic on the dmg front

[whole crypt]

it could be worse you could be using Isuzu

time to finish up 13H and 15 I guess

[still merlin]

Excluding gear lvl is this ok most likely for chp 15 boss fleet. Ik I should probs replace with wyvern but poor rn

[crimson glacier]

looks pretty bad

[still merlin]

Wip

[crimson glacier]

id rather have fighters than DBs

[atomic abyss]

flapjack double wyvern would be ideal
or at least flapjack double breguet/vit

[crimson glacier]

and scepter always over bow

[unborn owl]

skyraider stil reliable?

[still merlin]

Oh shit I thought it was bow

[atomic abyss]

skyraider IS very strong
just not for this scenario

[unborn owl]

still wonder which ship are suitable with that plane.

[atomic abyss]

a lot of them are

[still merlin]

Ya I will def switch it up at chp 15 just too lazy rn to think planning to make 3cv ijn back fleet

[crimson glacier]

in general use fighter is always better than DB

[sinful elk]

Chat what is good about Perseus

[crimson glacier]

nothing

[atomic abyss]

for the same things unicorn retrofit is
except worse

[still merlin]

Pure fighter or rocket fighter or just depends?

[unborn owl]

barrage or normal for hiei meta?

[crimson glacier]

normal 2x1000 fighter

[atomic abyss]

rocket fighters are never used on campaign

[sinful elk]

So not that bad right

[crimson glacier]

well yeah she is decent healer, just uses gold bulins and more oil while performing worse than unicorn

[atomic abyss]

ofc not, she's still the 2nd best healer

thing is, why would you use her over uni

[muted ember]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[crimson glacier]

and also makes your fleet take more dmg in hard content coz she deals no dmg

[sinful elk]

I pair her with uni

[crimson glacier]

that pairing makes perseus useless lol

[atomic abyss]

that's horrible

[crimson glacier]

practically every healer except maybe shouhou on AA heavy worlds is better

[atomic abyss]

tldr, it's used, A LOT

[crimson glacier]

i use it pretty rarely, tenrai is just better in general imo

[atomic abyss]

i mean well in mobbing and campaign ofc

[inner delta]

skyraider for light is pre bad cuz the timing doesn't line up

[crimson glacier]

i feel like that only sees real use in meta battle

[inner delta]

unless you change the timing, it's really slow

[unborn owl]

is it fine to use HPFCR to Alsace since she has pre-salvo?

[still merlin]

Wats tenrai used for then heavy?

[atomic abyss]

everything else
heavy bosses, campaign, mobbing etc

[finite crag]

you also only have 1 skyraider so youre definitely gonna be using a tenrai

[sinful elk]

Yeah so like uhm can you tell me any of these girls are worth using i need to commit a purge

[light flax]

Whats high efficiency combat plans purpose

[whole crypt]

best DB for heavy is Tenrai if it fits your timing

[whole crypt]

time compression

[warm latch]

its a time saver, does 2 runs in the time it takes to do one

[light flax]

Ohh

[atomic abyss]

sirius, kazagumo to be prioritised
percy, san fran, chesh, eld, u-96, u-37 are very nice to have too

[whole crypt]

Just buy more dock space™️

[sinful elk]

That green cat is not going to have MY MONEY

[sharp socket]

you dont need a purge you need more dockspace, 174 is too low

[warm latch]

if youre f2p, 3 dorm slots, dorm 2nd floor and dock space are the only things you should be spending gems on

[muted ember]

how good is Hiei META

[whole crypt]

just another gold BC

[urban solar]

building question: as a poor returning player if I lucksack into a rainbow amagi after 25 builds should I keep building for the other limiteds/the 200 builds fox or just save? I got decent lv 100ish fleets with a slight USS focus already running

[whole crypt]

save

[crimson glacier]

i dont think the others in this event are worth anything

[whole crypt]

never build for dupes

[undone plover]

Yes, it will apply to her 1st reload still (which will be her second salvo)

[urban solar]

haven't played much since before UR ships (that aren't sandy) so idk how bad rainbow bulin eco is yet but thanks for the advice. Will save.

[finite crag]

1.5 bulin a month from specialized cores

[whole crypt]

you get an average of around 2 bulins each month if you keep up with grind, +1 for each UR event

[urban solar]

seems decent. Thanks. That saves my cubes.

[unborn owl]

is fargo good?

[whole crypt]

I'm not saying you have to pay for the game, but it's not like you have to keep paying for the game

[whole crypt]

decent, but no real reason to use

[sinful elk]

Nah im going to spend a few but uhh i heard musashir rerun is near is that real?

[jagged lagoon]

so I got the UR unit, but what's the reason why I'm not allowed to use her yet? my account is effectively 2 days old

[sharp socket]

not MLB = bad

[whole crypt]

what does spending have to do with Musashi rerun, you don't pay for gacha
we speculate Nov/Dec but no guarantees with one more event to go after Roma for chronological order

[warm latch]

a lot more expensive to make her better than some of the cheap starter options you get access to immediately

[jagged lagoon]

oh is AL the type of game you need dupes to break a certain level gap

[atomic abyss]

yes, basically

[sinful elk]

[urban solar]

your carriers start throwing more planes as they get limit broken so you effectively just don't do reasonable damage yet
but you can bulin her up slowly

[sharp socket]

however you can get the dupes (bulins) for free as long as you play the game

[warm latch]

dont pull for dupes, you will get enough bulins to MLB her

[whole crypt]

1. you need levels to LB
2. you need dupes/bulins to LB, since we don't recommend pulling for dupes you'll need to wait for bulins to LB
3. low rarity units with LB will be better than high ones without

[jagged lagoon]

I don't have much time to dedicate to AL currently, are the UR dupes like the purple ones the game gives that are universal

[warm latch]

yes, rainbow bulins

[atomic abyss]

there are, but much rarer

[sharp socket]

UR bulins can only be used on URs

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

you should read this by the way

[sharp socket]

you should be able to get cvmagi to mlb in like 2 months if you’re new

[whole crypt]

game has a good line up of free/non-cash shop units you can hit up at the start that will carry you till midgame

[jagged lagoon]

I think that was one of 2 guides I was given, was just curious because he didn't explicitly say why no MLB URs are bad

[atomic abyss]

because no mlb ANYTHING is bad

[whole crypt]

all ships have significant amount of power held behind LBs

[jagged lagoon]

ok as long as I can come back anytime and grind it sounds good

[crimson glacier]

they are bad coz they are missing a shitton of stats

[worldly pewter]

her cross in 15-4

[crimson glacier]

is that a joke?

perseus crossfleet is dogshit

[atomic abyss]

please tell me that's a joke

[sweet merlin]

What planes to use for amagi?

[crimson glacier]

same as all other carriers

[sinful elk]

[whole crypt]

very roughly a ship is going to be 30/50/70% of MLB strength at 0/1/2 LB, will differ based on ship type and skills

[worldly pewter]

#gameplay-help message

[atomic abyss]

depends on where you're using her
fighter db tb if you're just raising her

[sweet merlin]

What db and tb

[whole crypt]

if you need Perseus cross fleet heal you're probably building your fleet wrong

[atomic abyss]

helldiver and barracuda, for budget

[crimson glacier]

the same as what you are used to using on other carriers

[sweet merlin]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

that is a bonus
you dont actually use percy for her x-fleet

[crimson glacier]

there is nothing weird about amagis gearing, carriers just use the same stuff

[worldly pewter]

in my situation i need her cross
guam was living at 0.1% for 30 sec

[crimson glacier]

lol

[atomic abyss]

at that point use the manjuu

[crimson glacier]

if your guam is dying and you are using perseus, that just gives the the idea that you dont know what you are doing

[worldly pewter]

no i wasn't using perseus

[whole crypt]

if your Guam is dying maybe fix why Guam is dying and stop trying to bandaid her

[worldly pewter]

but her cross would have been for a better consistency overall

[crimson glacier]

sounds like insane cope

[frank pulsar]

its viable for 121 fleets
i used percy for fleet 2

[worldly pewter]

i mean this comes from someone using langley in the support

[inner delta]

it is viable yes, i tested it but it's still meh

[frank pulsar]

thing about 121 strat is that you can get away with a lot of things in fleet 2 so theres that

[crimson glacier]

guam is custom made CB specialized just to stomp w15

she shouldnt be dying

[frank pulsar]

if yr guam dying in w15 you have skill issue yea

[sharp socket]

iirc abdou completed 15-4 in record pace of like 8 months so yea

[inner delta]

like percy is much better in 15 than in 13 just because how much longer the fight is so the gimp cd is less an issue but like still kinda disappointing

[crimson glacier]

longer fight means that the debuff matters more

[inner delta]

no i mean she actually can launch again

[crimson glacier]

and deal 0 dmg

[inner delta]

yea

[still nest]

Is there anyway to disable this popup?

[crimson glacier]

no

[worldly pewter]

well it is situational in the end
in my case percy cross would increase the consistency by a very huge margin

[finite crag]

enough gaming for today go do something productive

[frank pulsar]

no, and maybe dont use them when they have low morale
you lose some stats when you force them to fight with no morale

[white agate]

build a 2nd unicorn

[crimson glacier]

i think it takes much more effort to get your mob fleet overkill hard enough to fit percy

than simply fixing your boss fleet

[worldly pewter]

i was bossing with the mob fleet

[still nest]

It's ok, I just want to farm

[crimson glacier]

and what do you mean by bossing

[still nest]

Who's that 2nd unicorn?

[crimson glacier]

killing the 2nd boss with it?

[frank pulsar]

percy only viable in 121 strat in fleet 2 what are you on about
in 212 fleet percy is completely cooked

[worldly pewter]

doing the first and the last boss

[woeful sluice]

should you still do 3 event pulls every day if you already have Amagi, Watarase and Suzunami?

[crimson glacier]

that sounds just stupid

you are saying that you used boss fleet only in 2nd boss?

[white agate]

literally having a 2nd unicorn built, but meh,its quite wasteful unless you always have a ton of oil

[warm latch]

if you have all the event ships theres no reason to pull in event pool

[frank pulsar]

its not
ive had much more consistent clears with 121 than with 212

[crimson glacier]

well good for you

[still nest]

I have 35k oils + storage

Oh I mean 35k oil currently plus storsge more

[sweet merlin]

What is bis for torp bomber

[crimson glacier]

wyvern for general use

[sweet merlin]

Is this good

[atomic abyss]

absolute garbage

it's worse than the purple helldiver

[half plover]

are theseus or centaur good to build for any content?

or I-19?

[atomic abyss]

not particularly

maybe like, 5th or 6th best choices for w15 support fleet (4 fighters)

[sweet merlin]

What is the bis for this kind of plane then?

[half plover]

oh then nah

[atomic abyss]

tenrais (PR4), then helldivers

[half plover]

what is the usual support fleet rn? I can remember indormitable + illustrious

[finite crag]

indom ilus implac