gameplay-help

[keen sable]

torpedo

[atomic abyss]

Almost certainly

[frank pulsar]

stat stick means just provides a lot of stats without any extra utility or special buffs or whatever

[blazing galleon]

ik what a torpedo is I didnt get the stat stick part

[atomic abyss]

Though, not sure about Akagi meta...

[keen sable]

tag akagi so should be all

[blazing galleon]

alr got it

[viscid swift]

hard node requires you to have certain amounts of X stat

often times torp is the one players are short on

[topaz smelt]

ye

[remote yarrow]

Hard mode stages have stat requirements, we call some ships "stat sticks" because you won't really use them outside of fulfilling that requirement

[topaz smelt]

same with kaga as well

[pulsar hornet]

Does this look good or toss our Sirius for Kazagumo?

[atomic abyss]

Yes, toss her out for kaza

[topaz smelt]

sashi should flag

[viscid swift]

flag Musashi for one

[blazing galleon]

so should I swap out kasumi from my formation for normal campaign?

[keen sable]

ahh later is kaga

she's so complicated compared to say fletcher and massa

[atomic abyss]

Sirius better for DD/cruisers

[remote yarrow]

Yes, you should be using the recommended starter fleet

[gusty olive]

How does Shinano and Amagi CV fair theoretically?

[blazing galleon]

alr ty

[stark quiver]

is there a syncing guide

[atomic abyss]

"Trial and error"

[viscid swift]

We just got the datamine, give it a bit more time

[strong tartan]

first initial thoughts on amagi cv?

[stark quiver]

like how it works

[eager mulch]

We just got the datamine, give it a bit more time

[atomic abyss]

Mob god

[strong tartan]

okay

[atomic abyss]

Ensure all carriers are within +-0.2s of your freezer

How to ensure? Change for faster/slower planes

[pulsar hornet]

I haven't touched their gear in a while. Any suggestions?

[hollow gust]

Gear dependent on your other ships , not by bis

[pulsar hornet]

Was talking about cracking Nagato M with these guys @hollow gust

[stark quiver]

how abt bb? like syncing vanny

[atomic abyss]

Ensure your BB times are close but not the same
Vanguard will want to fire first

[viscid swift]

Give everyone Champaign gun/mk6/mk7 and call it a day

[atomic abyss]

Vanguard is naturally faster tho, so no need to give her a fast gun
Just give everyone the same ye

[stark quiver]

so no fcr?

[atomic abyss]

If you give 1 fcr, everyone gets fcr
Or afct

[stark quiver]

maybe i was overthinking this

[bright tusk]

Is implacable skill that stop enemy also affect other fleet?

[inner delta]

vanguard does not run fcr ever

[atomic abyss]

No it only affects the battle she's in

[remote yarrow]

No, that would be broken af

[hollow gust]

It's dependent, She runs it sometimes

[inner delta]

almost never tho

she's just too fast

[atomic abyss]

If everyone else is getting table
Why wouldn't I run fcr on Vanny

[viscid swift]

For the usual 4 Salvo set ups it's fine

Only in CM does the desync really become an issue

[atomic abyss]

Anything beyond that tho, your syncing goes awry

[viscid swift]

Or unless you oathed her

[atomic abyss]

Then your syncing goes awry anyways

[hollow gust]

It wasn't until more recently that everyone swapped to double shell

[boreal oriole]

Is there a way to view the new ships barrage?. Amagi seemsnto have two barrages which is interesting

[inner delta]

i been on double shell for forever

[atomic abyss]

No, no way to view them yet

[remote yarrow]

So this is why my Vanny desyncs

[atomic abyss]

The plane barrage was on stream tho iirc

[boreal oriole]

Oof maryland still 70%, Needs another BB/C for her new barrage

[remote yarrow]

Is there anything I can do for her to not desync?

[atomic abyss]

Oath your other BBs

[viscid swift]

Double shell time

[dusk maple]

amagi has 8 planes?

[viscid swift]

Or give her the Soyuz gun

[remote yarrow]

[atomic abyss]

8 planes with high efficiencies yes

[pulsar hornet]

21.74s should still be within synch of Helana right? Debating on tossing in Saiun to get 21.41

Also, I forgot if Homing is accounted for the launch tip or do I have to manually calculate it

[viscid swift]

You have to manually calculate it

[atomic abyss]

Homing you have to manually calc

[boreal oriole]

Seems like Amagi is going to IJN comp yes

[gusty olive]

Shinano Amagi CV fleet LES GOOO

[atomic abyss]

The best part is

She's also an equally good mobber

[remote yarrow]

Btw, I know someone with no URs besides a 0LB Alsace and they are gonna pull for Amagi, who would be better as first MLB?

[gusty olive]

So I still need a slow for IJN CV comp huh?

[atomic abyss]

Depends on where they are in the game honestly

[stark quiver]

personally, id go with amagi

[atomic abyss]

Cos if they have fdg already, amagi is better

[remote yarrow]

W9, they have the starter fleet, +Hood, Sara and Indiana

So not much ships

[stark quiver]

id still go with amagi
since they can get fdg

[topaz smelt]

if its that early i wanna lean towards alsace since shes easier to gear

[fossil shard]

Is there new gear in the shop for the event?

[tidal meteor]

No

[blazing galleon]

what's retrofit?

[atomic abyss]

Alsace is better if they're that early yes

[pulsar hornet]

I got. 20.87 for double torps with just Ryusei and 20.54 with one Saiun.

It wouldn't hurt to just so double Ryusie then right?

[fossil shard]

What kinda ur event is this then

[tidal meteor]

A terribly mid one imho

[topaz smelt]

then do amagi next in like ~2 months and hope hes got decent gear

[remote yarrow]

aight ty

[viscid swift]

A normal one

Not every UR event has a new piece of gear

[stark quiver]

A ur event.....
just without the event gear
which doesnt always come with it

[fossil shard]

Which ur event didn’t have something new?

[remote yarrow]

And "upgrade" that some ships have, they get upgraded stats, new and/or upgraded skills and they get an uptier in rarity

[tidal meteor]

Yeah BisZwei's event was mid too

[little tree]

so is haku worth griding for if i can just pull amagi then?

[stark quiver]

zwei

[boreal oriole]

And no double UR

[strong tartan]

Uvh

[fossil shard]

She was too op

[viscid swift]

Does it look like I give a toss

[stark quiver]

they had double UR 2 times

[blazing galleon]

alr

[fossil shard]

No one remembers her

[strong tartan]

Ok

[topaz smelt]

tbh it doesnt really matter too much which ur he goes with as pr can compensate for whichevers lacking

[fossil shard]

Kinda disappointed

[pulsar hornet]

Hmmm. Which is better? A LA9 + Ryusei or double Ryusei? Against Nagato

[topaz smelt]

whichever timing works

[atomic abyss]

As long as it syncs

[stark quiver]

haku in the end is still a UR Cv thats really good, and you want her for other fleets too

[remote yarrow]

We recommend that you Retrofit Unicorn asap, then Portland and your starter DD

[little tree]

got it

[topaz smelt]

ryuus are higher cap tho

[blazing galleon]

I don't think I got either of them

[atomic abyss]

Vit 2 mode change would he stronger than ryuusei on the other hand

Go get them from the guild shop then

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

Refer to this

[pulsar hornet]

Hmmm, I wonder if I should invest some gold plates on Vit 2 now.

[stark quiver]

you could

[blazing galleon]

btw by starter do u mean long island?

[atomic abyss]

No, Laffey/z23/javelin

[strong tartan]

Speaking of Long Island replace her if you're using her like asap

[stark quiver]

alright so say im a new player, and my first oath is unicorn, thats isnt a bad idea right

[atomic abyss]

[blazing galleon]

alr thanks y'all

[atomic abyss]

It doesn't matter lol

[remote yarrow]

Neither?

[stark quiver]

actully, bad question, it doesnt matter

[atomic abyss]

It's not like she's gonna heal more

[pulsar hornet]

Quad 152s are still good against Heavy right?

[spare mango]

Did exp we get from the sortie rounded up?

[remote yarrow]

Wdym by this? Like if you get 145 exp it gets rounded up to 150? I don't think that's how it works about decimals I'm not too sure

[atomic abyss]

You can get decimal values for exp iirc

[remote yarrow]

You can?

[atomic abyss]

I forgot which way it's rounded tho

[topaz smelt]

maga comp is looking like it might build around amagi 2 + unzen

[strong tartan]

What a comp name

[atomic abyss]

With Hakunano?
Or sushi nano?

[topaz smelt]

prob implac/nyak

needs a stop and 3rd can be any good damage, sashi/nano/haku ..etc

[spare mango]

Well i just calculate from the exp table in wiki
12-4 3* node

[topaz smelt]

vg is likely something like kaza/ unzen + ply/avrora/mint
or something like that

[remote yarrow]

Oh no idea, ask the wiki guys maybe they know

[south sequoia]

Is this the first time we recieved a distance dependent skill? This is pretty weird

[topaz smelt]

azuma

[atomic abyss]

No it's not the first
As said, Azuma exists

[south sequoia]

Oh

So she got 2 barrages hope her damage is enough to lose 1 plane

Considering her effs might be likely

[crimson glacier]

So how is it

[atomic abyss]

The efficiencies are very high

Her barrage is off flag

[vale spindle]

@topaz smelt check if i copied over the barrage data properly 🦭

[south sequoia]

Though this would mean she has to compete between shinano vs hakuryuu for a position

[topaz smelt]

im checking if i copied the barrages properly

[strong tartan]

She'd probably replace haku cuz shinaenae still has her buffs

[south sequoia]

One of them gonna be benched

[topaz smelt]

sorry i find that unreadable

[atomic abyss]

I think hak goes personally

[vale spindle]

im asking cause i just fed your table and a past barrage datamine from thorin and asked gpt to reformat it in the same format as thorin

[atomic abyss]

Hak can go with nakh instead

[south sequoia]

Fair

[topaz smelt]

idk why you trust gpt with anything

[crimson glacier]

Only 8 planes?

[topaz smelt]

without an activator for nyak , haku is slightly better with nano

[vale spindle]

total efficiencies are higher on amagi cv compared to shinano though

[topaz smelt]

ye shes got giga effs

[south sequoia]

Budget musashi at home

lol

[topaz smelt]

nah it utilizes uni backline heal

[strong tartan]

is this the third ship with a skill like that or fourth

[atomic abyss]

Mary?

[topaz smelt]

oh right i for mary

[remote yarrow]

Hiei

[atomic abyss]

She has a skill that increases her damage at low HP sooooo

[strong tartan]

I think that's hiei

[atomic abyss]

Ah shame

If that was Mary that'd be good

[strong tartan]

Like Wichita ?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[strong tartan]

Oh right I forgot to read her skills

[spare mango]

Mary who?

[strong tartan]

Maryland retro

[foggy chasm]

today is maint right?

[strong tartan]

2 hours 4 minutes

[remote yarrow]

Yes, 2 hours left

[stark quiver]

how long is maint usually

[remote yarrow]

8 hours

[stark quiver]

unfortunate

[spare mango]

Since this is mayor event it'll be 8hrs

[strong tartan]

You get chat frame pts when you unlock the meta ship right?

I forget if it did during Alsaces event

[ocean pilot]

so i made thread related to w14, do i need adjustment at w15?
i see 3 supports slot so i think i need more CV/CVL

[stark quiver]

you infact do
chances are if u used ur w14 fleet for w15 youd expolde

[spare mango]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[ocean pilot]

asw still awful this stage?

[stark quiver]

well planes actually

[ocean pilot]

quite similar strat to w13?

[topaz smelt]

its a combo of 13 and 14

[spare mango]

Yes and bosses retreat twice

[stark quiver]

there are 3 bosses in 15-4

[topaz smelt]

you take the worst parts of each and throw them into 15

[ocean pilot]

oh thats funny

[stark quiver]

haha yea

[spare mango]

I don't remember clearly but did w15 have fog too?

[zenith heron]

Impla's event gear is questionable

[blazing galleon]

what should I use gems on

[spare mango]

Dorm

[stark quiver]

no

[finite crag]

3rd dorm slot 2nd floor then all for dock

[keen sable]

all 6 of amagis barrage planes have aa guns

[blazing galleon]

was thinking of getting skins but ok

[strong tartan]

Never spend F2P gems on skins

[spare mango]

More likely guns for intercept

[remote yarrow]

No, if you are planning to stay F2P do not spend on skins, rings, packs, cubes,coins,etc

[ocean pilot]

oh i dont see tenrai at for w15 nvm i see that
but ply gun

[stark quiver]

you can but thats not a good choice for spending free gems because theyre very limited, and they usually are spent to improve gameplay

[remote yarrow]

If you wanna get those it should come out of your pocket

[blazing galleon]

alr do we get free skins or nah

[stark quiver]

yea
theres actually one rn

[spare mango]

For elite ships usually

[vale spindle]

the game says i have like 60+ something skins and im f2p so yea

[blazing galleon]

which one?

[stark quiver]

mutsuki

[remote yarrow]

There's some permanent events that give old skins for lower rarity skins

Currently there's one for Mutsuki

[blazing galleon]

event prolly not available for me cause I'm low level

[remote yarrow]

Doesn't matter

[keen sable]

massa

[blazing galleon]

how so?

[spare mango]

Tap on the event on main screen

[remote yarrow]

Literally go over to the Event tabs and it's the first one from the top

[blazing galleon]

alr lemme check

is it a login event or?

[remote yarrow]

yeah

[blazing galleon]

got it how do I get her btw

[stark quiver]

perma light pool
btw dont pull for her

[ember totem]

Hi hi, what's the initial 1 hour reaction to Amagi (CV)

[stark quiver]

yes good

[frank pulsar]

mutsuki is droppable from like every map iirc since shes common

[remote yarrow]

It doesn't say where she drops from tho, at least in wiki

just light build

[frank pulsar]

[slate glade]

wait will they fuse all english server together?

[stark quiver]

no

[wary robin]

@plain saffron is there anything about interface ui packs ?

[stark quiver]

where did you even get that from

[remote yarrow]

No, why would they

[slow fox]

In preparation for global server sync

[remote yarrow]

wot

[stark quiver]

[frank pulsar]

source

[slate glade]

ingame news pop up or smth like that

[lament bay]

is there no info about the crystal looking thing auxiliary they said next event?

[stark quiver]

most likely not, prolly just mentioning how all servers will be in maintainence

[inner delta]

[slow fox]

sorry

[finite crag]

Woah is that real

[remote yarrow]

Spreading misinformation

[frank pulsar]

i love misinformation

[slow fox]

[whole crypt]

is that an 8-plane UR I see

[inner delta]

mayhabs

[whole crypt]

Unzen buffer for showdown fleet

[remote yarrow]

Makes up for her big efficiency

[foggy chasm]

i believe there used to be something on opsi not worth doing the thing

is it level 3-4 hidden or abyss something?

[inner delta]

what used in opsi?

[boreal oriole]

How's Amagi Barrage numbers looking?

[whole crypt]

the TB slot is okay I guess

[plain saffron]

I haven't look much, all info in patch notes anyway

[whole crypt]

I personally skip corrosion 2 hiddens if that's the sort thing you're after

[inner delta]

even the 3 one kinda meh

[topaz smelt]

if youre new id still do them for mats

[inner delta]

well yeah

[whole crypt]

not great but not as bad as 2

[topaz smelt]

but oh no my 20? vouchers?

[whole crypt]

2 is just 🚮

[foggy chasm]

im not new ig?

[spare mango]

Meanwhile me who do all hidden zones💀

[topaz smelt]

its ass but youre still forced to do them cuz strategic search

[foggy chasm]

i played 6y ago

[whole crypt]

I don't strat search hiddens so

[foggy chasm]

i see so 2-3 is trash?

[whole crypt]

2 is, 3 is just meh but can still drop some stuff

[topaz smelt]

look at this hard voucher saver

if it can drop gold plates/mats you always do them

[inner delta]

it's not voucher saver, it's lazy

[spare mango]

We call it busy

[topaz smelt]

lazy to buy it?

[inner delta]

lazy to wait for auto

[foggy chasm]

all abyssal are worth right

[whole crypt]

I just skip 2s because I feel you get more out of repeating c5 with the AP

but yeh if you strat search hiddens just do everything

[ember totem]

[plain saffron]

Imagine waiting and not afk overnight

[whole crypt]

and then run stops on first map because scamcat

[queen jackal]

order of factions for tech points i should do?

[topaz smelt]

kms for fdg and uss for anch are starting goals

i dont even do scamcat anymore

[queen jackal]

who can i get for uss the tech guide doesnt list it or sakura

[whole crypt]

whatever for more gold plates

[topaz smelt]

im too lazy to do opsi actively, i just do the entire thing on the last day

[whole crypt]

yeh I know, I just AFK it throughout the month though

[eternal basalt]

Get Amagi (CV) and Sakura is open to you

[queen jackal]

ya im gonna try, i only have like 200 cubes tho

[remote yarrow]

You got 3 more weeks to get cubes

[queen jackal]

i thought she was tomorrow, or u mean the 3 weeks during the event

[remote yarrow]

During the event

[queen jackal]

are the other ships on banner good?

[crimson glacier]

i didnt notice anything special

[eternal basalt]

1h even

[wet badge]

guys is hiei from leaks good

[crimson glacier]

well there is no leaks but in the datamine she just seems like basic gold BB

[wet badge]

ok

[eternal basalt]

She's free though, not even a slot in the dock

[cursive saffron]

Whats the maintenance abt?

[crimson glacier]

new event

[cursive saffron]

The UR?

[crimson glacier]

yes

[simple sage]

Is it worth it to max this ijn gun for musashi bossing/ helena comp?

[cobalt rapids]

not rly

[simple sage]

Ok ty

[sleek spade]

will we have any new gear this event?

[inner delta]

no

[sleek spade]

aaawwww very sad...

[exotic wren]

wait no gold gear as well?

[coarse heron]

No new gear and a shop that’s actually pretty easy to clear out, only 84k points if you don’t buy gear skins

[sleek spade]

wait. Amagi CV only have 8 planes...

I thought UR CVs got 9 planes

[topaz smelt]

it decent for 4 strike comps in this meta

[sleek spade]

what is 4 strike comps

[plain saffron]

But higher efficiency

[sleek spade]

that is tru

[topaz smelt]

-1 plane = +1 fps

[sleek spade]

should my Opsi CV fleet have Sirius + kazagumo or just 1 of them is fine? I find the vanguard with both being rather squishy lol

[plain saffron]

Whose skill have their skill quota limit removed

new ui skin name and des
梦幻霓虹
neon fantasy
色彩丰富而不失和谐，仿佛整个指挥界面都在随着音乐而律动，适合喜欢轻松氛围的指挥官。
The colors are rich and harmonious, as if the whole command interface is moving to the music, suitable for commanders who like a relaxing atmosphere.

[finite crag]

ui skin?

[dusk maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1283047334443356202/image.png?ex=66e38cb2&is=66e23b32&hm=e4f79093b2239980fadabfd838bf57a88f80b55b5d6fdb8dc272bd4b5d26fc39&

[plain saffron]

new skin, free one

old one

that's new free, one, new paid is somewhere above

[topaz smelt]

was there a patch?

[plain saffron]

no it's in the 1st patch

[topaz smelt]

idk got an id?

[keen sable]

it wasn't directed at you but generally refers to 4 attack cycles in meta

[sleek spade]

ahh I sêe

[plain saffron]

15930

buff id

[eternal basalt]

modern graphics. No wonder its shit

[topaz smelt]

blucher

[stuck coyote]

ijn amagi increases all dmg by 15%? or just torpedo dmg? unsure why surface/aerial/submarine is in paranthesis

[crimson glacier]

coz all of those have torps

[stuck coyote]

oh ok i get it

[crimson glacier]

normal torp dmg buff wouldnt affect plane torps at all

[stuck coyote]

gotchu , thanks makes more sense now

[sleek spade]

new UI soon tm?

[solemn marlin]

Is there a way tl judt kinda blaze through Pperation Siren? I really need to start dipping into that mode so that I can use the Gear Lab more often

[eternal basalt]

No, all the parts require extensive platrhroughs of ops anyway

[left tiger]

Is this mission a one time thing? Or will it reset?

[atomic abyss]

1 time thing

[harsh plinth]

Does Akagi Muse count for this skill -50% strike loading time?

[plain saffron]

Yes this patch, it's in patch notes

[atomic abyss]

Yes
Tho that part is an absolute meme of a skill

[wild oyster]

Basically just flavor text

[harsh plinth]

Interesting, would be worthwhile to test this out in my fast trash clear fleet.

[eternal basalt]

Akagi-chan too, I presume?

[weak shell]

trust Akagi META broken

[eternal basalt]

Good thing she never releases, like Yorktowm and Essex

[crimson grove]

But isn't AkagiM a BC and tagged as Meta?

[weak shell]

usually for named shit like this it's also including all form of Akagis and Kagas

[crimson grove]

[crimson glacier]

akagi BC?

[eternal basalt]

Except Akagi aux

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Echoes_of_Relinquished_Time

[slow fox]

rare bullimod in ALO

[atomic abyss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1280197894141509778/1283636135012208712/SPOILER_1726112407406783.png?ex=66e3b6cf&is=66e2654f&hm=0fb87f62cf5718fbc35d915d62fa3daac33b8fcaba90060f5acd9cac0f993e38&

[crimson glacier]

lol

[finite crag]

when was this

[atomic abyss]

CN dropped that today

[finite crag]

huh

[solemn marlin]

Damn it.
I really don't wann do it, this mode is such a fucking slog tl get through

[eternal basalt]

Our current event

[atomic abyss]

My guess is that she's appearing in the event, but she's not gonna be playable for a while

A la Yorktown meta

[eternal basalt]

And Essex

[wet prairie]

Damn Amagi replaces nano in IJN CV for bossing?

[timid moon]

Aren't all the new ships bad?

[limpid warren]

hi, was there a date for the bismarck oath skin?

[atomic abyss]

26th

[solemn marlin]

26.09

[limpid warren]

aight

[atomic abyss]

[topaz smelt]

prob replaces haku

[wet prairie]

Damn manny made a bad new UR?

[sleek spade]

Nice

[reef flume]

Amagi CV having 8 planes is already bad

[atomic abyss]

Haku will probably move to Nakh comps

[atomic abyss]

Not at all
Her efficiencies are way higher

[wet prairie]

Oh damn yeah she’s only 8

[atomic abyss]

The overall plane efficiency total is actually higher than all other carriers to date

[glass niche]

Did amagi already power creep Nakhimov?

[topaz smelt]

is today the day we see the iq divide of the community

[atomic abyss]

No, they do different things

[glass niche]

she not even dev30 yet

[eternal basalt]

Akagi SN?

[atomic abyss]

Amagi can't freeze lol

[shell willow]

does amagi barrage ignite? or is her phoenix thing useless if u dont slot bb with her?

[reef flume]

I know. But seeing everything overall rn she doesn't seem better than the current ur cvs. Gotta test tho

[timid moon]

Why does Maryland have 257 FP?

[reef flume]

She might be better in mobbing rather than bossing

[atomic abyss]

She is outright better than most CVs in her niche

[willow peak]

so I purchased gems 5 minutes away before maintenance will that cause a problem?

[atomic abyss]

Aka, heavy armour

[plain saffron]

Lol

[topaz smelt]

shes just another ur cv

[glass niche]

torp buff for best torp combo

[sleek spade]

Are UR CVs good?

[topaz smelt]

nah

[wild oyster]

No

[sleek spade]

Aaawww

[atomic abyss]

[topaz smelt]

every other cvs are just worse

[sleek spade]

[atomic abyss]

Do I have to warn like 2 people

[ember totem]

guys she has 8 planes, she must be bad

[atomic abyss]

For being deliberately misleading

[topaz smelt]

let me leave to dodge a warn

[timid moon]

I already have the "anti-heavy armor trio" i can skip her right?

[atomic abyss]

If you got them immediately, no issue

[willow peak]

I see thank you

[timid moon]

haku, nano, impla

[topaz smelt]

shes prob required to 1 shot magato

[atomic abyss]

Why would you ever skip a UR
This is the exact thing to roll for
You'll replace Haku

[sleek spade]

I don’t have Impla. Im very sad.

[wet prairie]

Damn she loads fast, shame kaga and akagi are mid

[timid moon]

Oof i mean i will get her but not mlb her

[atomic abyss]

Haku will move to Nakhimov comps

[sleek spade]

Is she better than Haku tho

[atomic abyss]

At heavy armour, absolutely should be

[topaz smelt]

but nyak comps still prob want amagi

[glass niche]

we use agir for slow

[timid moon]

damn okay

[sleek spade]

Ah that’s good. Needing someone to nuke Harbiter

[atomic abyss]

Agir slow is cope as fuck

[topaz smelt]

agir slow is fake

[atomic abyss]

Good luck even timing your torps with the airstrike

[crimson grove]

Do we even have a vanguard with a viable slow

[atomic abyss]

Eldridge retro

[glass niche]

let's me cope for this majestic 3 IJN CVs

[sleek spade]

What is nyak good for. Im researching her still

[atomic abyss]

Med armour + freeze

[topaz smelt]

damage, stop, nya

[atomic abyss]

Nakh is currently the best CV in the game

[ember totem]

[sleek spade]

Doesnt her freeze need Kronk or someone to apply first?

[rain bobcat]

you mean the thing that happens whenever a UR releases

[topaz smelt]

soy is ez proc

[ember totem]

just use Soyuz

[atomic abyss]

Fuck kronk, kronk isn't even used for her

Soyuz

[placid chasm]

Anyone who’s new here?

[sleek spade]

Ah that’s good

[glass niche]

Kronk not have slow right?

[crimson grove]

[atomic abyss]

Kronk has slow on her crossfleet

[ember totem]

she has a slow from her crossfleet

[placid chasm]

I can help with it

[atomic abyss]

So just once a battle, at the 20s mark
FROM A DIFFERENT FLEET

[sleek spade]

It’s ok it works

[eternal basalt]

OPSI kronk

[atomic abyss]

If you wanted to cope, at least use Tashkent or Voroshilov

Or well, Chkalov, but good luck syncing

[topaz smelt]

syncing chka isnt hard but landing the slow is

[sleek spade]

It’s ok I got Soyuz but Im trying to get triple opsi CV big dmg fleet

[atomic abyss]

If you ask me, this is what's gonna happen

Anti light: Kears, Yk2, Impla
Anti med: Soyuz, Nakh, Haku
Anti heavy: Nano, Amagi, Impla/AvP

Freeing up your BB comp to be
Bis Zwei, Alsace, Vanguard

And then you can keep Musashi on your w14/15 mob fleets

And give the other URs the

[sleek spade]

I don have bis zwei

[ember totem]

just leave musashi on pvp duty

[crimson grove]

No mobbing?

[atomic abyss]

I mean, if this is opsi, obviously you have to bring a mob fleet

But this is moreso what the devs probably want players to build

[crimson grove]

[atomic abyss]

You could also make the argument that Amagi is a mobber from her absurd mobbing kit

[ember totem]

I use full HMS for opsi mobbing so you don't need to think too hard for that

[atomic abyss]

But amagi isn't gonna replace Aquila/Volga for Musashi comps

I bring you weird news

[plain saffron]

So what's tldr for this event ships

[atomic abyss]

The Saiun beats bf109g by 2% on medium assuming it hits and is from ijn carrier with amagi CV

[topaz smelt]

idk how amagis gonna run on mobs tbh

[ember totem]

aren't you datamining the tldr?

[topaz smelt]

shes really good damage but you dont want her fast load

[plain saffron]

I'll mine you

[junior stratus]

huh, Aquila/Volga on musa? what does this comp do

[sleek spade]

But why

[topaz smelt]

using a shit ship is counter productive

[atomic abyss]

Musashi has a skill which absorbs damage from other backliners
Aquila/Volga specialise in targeted healings to heal off what she loses

[plain saffron]

If only we have this back in the day when people use akagi muse in meta fight

[junior stratus]

Is this for OpSi mobbing? or what

[atomic abyss]

W14/15

[sleek spade]

But isn’t she looking pretty good?

[atomic abyss]

Aka, actually high difficulty mobbing content

[atomic abyss]

Akagi and Kaga are shit

[plain saffron]

She's good, using her with akaga just for 50% load is bad

[atomic abyss]

And those 2 already HAVE the exact same skill

[gusty olive]

Hmmmm

[sleek spade]

O i thought we’re just talking amagi lol

[plain saffron]

It's just flavor text

[atomic abyss]

Unless we actually do get Akagi meta and she turns out to be actually good

[crimson grove]

[gusty olive]

First T0 META carrier (imagine)

[atomic abyss]

looks at Yorktown meta being awol

Yeah I'm not holding my breath

[plain saffron]

She have the "biggest" cg so far

Split into 4 parts. 3 of them have their own skin reaction set

[atomic abyss]

I mean in any case, we might have our first T0 META BB anyways

[plain saffron]

Who

[atomic abyss]

The metato testing can also begin in earnest now

[gusty olive]

When are we expected to get Nageta? Today? Or tmr?

[topaz smelt]

magato

[atomic abyss]

Today

[plain saffron]

After doing more calculation she's not as good as i expected

[gusty olive]

My META skill book stock is sweating rn lol

[atomic abyss]

Rice, I don't think Nagato is an American politician

[topaz smelt]

not yet she aint

[plain saffron]

[atomic abyss]

The last time she went to America she got nuked

[ember totem]

Anything can be an American politician nowadays

[inner delta]

[topaz smelt]

shes gonna be in a political debate vs enty for leading the uss

[glass niche]

[atomic abyss]

But what do you mean

Doesn't she have the full extent of Sakura 7 at 100% proc rate? Which is already a really good barrage?

[plain saffron]

Though i only did it against current meta fight so not a full picture

[atomic abyss]

Ah yes, using a BB against a BB

[plain saffron]

I hope she's good, i need more bb for my ramzh acc

[topaz smelt]

its pretty good if you dont have ijn

[atomic abyss]

Which isn't that hard to achieve

Just don't use shimanto or unzen

I mean nagami, at the very least, she should beat out all the other META BB/C right

[gusty olive]

Better than KGV atleast lol

[plain saffron]

I think so. Though I'm probably gonna put her with qeta for my bb fleet

[gusty olive]

Watch as the screen is filled with barrages when paired with Modney lol

[plain saffron]

Repulse qeta nagata for anti light fleet

[atomic abyss]

KGV is such a low bar lol

[topaz smelt]

all you need is just 1 cv fleet

[atomic abyss]

No rice, all we need are more HVARs

[gusty olive]

I'm joking for how putting them in a fleet with their faction prunes them

[topaz smelt]

nah just you

[atomic abyss]

Did you actually farm 6?

[topaz smelt]

i think 4

only used 3 so far, never found a need for the 4th

[dusk maple]

I farmed 6, all at +13, mostly benched

[topaz smelt]

sounds about right

[patent pivot]

anyone got link to magat datamine

[crimson grove]

[topaz smelt]

its catching on

[crimson grove]

I think I have 4 hvars

[atomic abyss]

Pins

[patent pivot]

doesnt give hitbox size 💀

[weak shell]

didn't this happen like twice with UvH and Vanguard?

what's another divide gonna do

[weak shell]

you didn't farm 6?

[cobalt rapids]

very relevant to this channel

[storm heron]

Is there an amagi plane?

[cobalt rapids]

no gears in shop

[atomic abyss]

Cause the event horizon

No I wasn't even around for yk2 event

Her "plane" is the old ryuusei

Which is why it's farmable on d3

[plain saffron]

There's few aux skin if you're into that

[shell willow]

[crimson grove]

Aux skins always nice

[weak shell]

nah I believe in ALM to pull through (at least PvP) for us, trust

[plain saffron]

Uhh my bad, gear skin. Idk if aux or not

[topaz smelt]

@vale spindle @plain saffron do you guys need maryland stats?

[atomic abyss]

Oh that reminds me

@plain saffron there's something VERY wrong here

[stray crane]

Do Amagi CV's s1 and s2 dmg buffs (torp dmg and distance dmg) multiply with eachother?

[topaz smelt]

they should be different multipliers

[atomic abyss]

1. Why is she light
2. Why is her FP lower than some CBs
3. Why is her AA lower than when it started?

[plain saffron]

I didn't touch retro so ask sam

[atomic abyss]

@vale spindle baka sam you goofed the retro

[plain saffron]

One day I'll add retro to my script

[atomic abyss]

The last thing we need is for another moron to go into #game-feedback screaming about a light armour big 7

When we already had one about a light armour Baltimore class

[topaz smelt]

i wanna see that for a good laugh

[weak shell]

ok but that's their fault taking "datamine" content as gospel

[atomic abyss]

Did you actually see it, moe

[plain saffron]

Retro is dpne manually so it's prone to human error

Let me try find my old script

[weak shell]

no but I can imagine the brainrot

[inner delta]

[weak shell]

link me if you do find it again xdd

[atomic abyss]

I'll DM it to you

[topaz smelt]

ill leave this here if you need it idk if this is entirely correct either

[polar lion]

How far to describe 110 units distance?

[atomic abyss]

...did the Big 7s have that low AA?
I vaguely remember that might be the case

[weak shell]

the limiting line is 90 range iirc

[plain saffron]

Is hat base id or retro id

[weak shell]

so I think from where she is to the limitting line is 100 approx?

[atomic abyss]

It should be retro

[topaz smelt]

prob base

[atomic abyss]

The main gun eff is high

[polar lion]

Dat is the line we see at the middle of field?

[topaz smelt]

its retro

base is 10510

[weak shell]

yes

[plain saffron]

good enough

[cobalt rapids]

about 2 times the distance from carrier to cv detection line if straight

[weak shell]

iirc CV detection line is like 40?

[polar lion]

Wer is the CV detection line again? I kinda forgor

[sweet delta]

A little more than 3 roomba radii

[weak shell]

so yea about right

[plain saffron]

is it time to pull this out again *not 100% accurate

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message you can use this as reference

[plain saffron]

Backline at -105

[topaz smelt]

should prob add the values in

[atomic abyss]

Maybe add that to the datamine nagami

[polar lion]

Oh noice illustration

[plain saffron]

I'll probably dig again to confirm everything twice

[topaz smelt]

then change the scale so backline is at 0

[plain saffron]

i'm lazy so here number, right and left field boundt is wrong

[atomic abyss]

So anyways
From napkin math
Amagi will almost certainly kick out Haku from anti heavy CV comps

[plain saffron]

Ouh that's not full version

[atomic abyss]

Napkin math also says that saiun beats bf109g by 2% on medium assuming it hits and is from ijn carrier with amagi

[plain saffron]

Still can't kick out stopper huh

[atomic abyss]

We can probably do away with the stopper for Metato

Since she only moves during the 4th strike timing

[willow dock]

That in pvp?

[atomic abyss]

Carriers are a joke in pvp

That's for opsi or meta showdowns

[patent pivot]

considered solo, shinano gets 3ijn buff, also CVagi gets full distance dmg buff, idk how accurate that is though, nak gets crit dmg buff

[atomic abyss]

At least call her Nagameta...

That is a substantial difference

[topaz smelt]

She moves on 3rd strike as well on 3 strike timing

So you kinda need the slow

[atomic abyss]

Slow or freeze

[topaz smelt]

Slow cap is enough

[patent pivot]

her replacing hak is a no brainer in shin/hak/stop comps

[atomic abyss]

So eld?

[patent pivot]

im mulling over what to do with nak

[topaz smelt]

Eld + nyak

[patent pivot]

who do you sack in the vg then

[topaz smelt]

Ply

[patent pivot]

unless eld AA is good enough to solo

[cobalt rapids]

dont need slow cap

[topaz smelt]

Single slow was whiffing for me

[cobalt rapids]

jimmy used just aegir

[atomic abyss]

Is it time to use Tashkent

And replace mog

[topaz smelt]

I'm guessing not vits?

[cobalt rapids]

not vits

1 vit actually

[patent pivot]

shin/nak/CVagi/AA/kaza/(unzen or CV buffer)

[atomic abyss]

I must confess that I still have that gif saved

[weak shell]

xdd

[atomic abyss]

But not here pls

[crimson glacier]

it was on topic tho

[topaz smelt]

@patent pivot run 3 strike with vits vs 4 strike for me

[patent pivot]

._.

[atomic abyss]

Lmao

[patent pivot]

ight

[topaz smelt]

I wanna say they're even now after testing on maga

[patent pivot]

in my tool or the other thing?

[topaz smelt]

Your tool

[patent pivot]

really hoping you werent gonna say that

[topaz smelt]

Kek

[patent pivot]

ill be back in like 30 minutes

[atomic abyss]

Better than him saying that you're a tool

[topaz smelt]

Find you can do your other thing

If you ask me for a fleet builder I'll get back to you tmrw

[patent pivot]

also what comp

[weak shell]

at least then he can't be replaced with an AI, rite?

[patent pivot]

XD

[weak shell]

remind me what was our CV comp the last time we got a Heavy META raid again?

[atomic abyss]

I'm guessing we're comparing SoNyKu with AmaiNano?

[topaz smelt]

Unzen

[weak shell]

was Nano Haku Implap Unzen CB Ara right?

[atomic abyss]

RodM
So scuffed Sushi Haku Nano with Unzen

[topaz smelt]

It was just unzen carry

[weak shell]

wait we didn't even have Implap then, yea was just Unzen prayge

[topaz smelt]

Torp meme

[cobalt rapids]

implac was there

[atomic abyss]

Uh, RodM was in March

[cobalt rapids]

just not used in all comps coz it was anti sync

[topaz smelt]

I don't even rmbr my own comp

[weak shell]

same

[atomic abyss]

Actually, haven't all the BB metas save this one been gimmicky in some way

[cobalt rapids]

every1 post repm yes

[weak shell]

I rmb I didn't even bother with CV on RodM or RepM cause of her fireball or something and you can never maintain stealth worth shit

[topaz smelt]

All I rmbred were all the shitty cn nugget comps

[willow dock]

Man who tf is nyak?

[atomic abyss]

Admiral Nakhimov

[cobalt rapids]

nagato wasnt shitty

[plain saffron]

If you full clear you can get 3 star in 1 run for new event stage

[weak shell]

Admiral Nyaakhimov

[cobalt rapids]

there maybe was a higher % killrate comp than nagatos but being 2nd or 3rd place doesnt make it shitty

[topaz smelt]

Wasn't it like 50

[cobalt rapids]

idr

[weak shell]

Nagato comps was RNG af no? you have to land and pray not lose stealth

[cobalt rapids]

every comp was rng af

[topaz smelt]

Some shit like that

[cobalt rapids]

torp rng was a thing aswell

[topaz smelt]

Torp meme was fairly consistent from what I rmbr

[weak shell]

all of them have like infinity amount of anti-concealment during the fight

yea the only one that was remotely consistent was Unzen for Heavy armored anyways

[cobalt rapids]

if u had oathed pairs then reveal was less of a thing

unzen was always picked, wether it was with nagato or without

[weak shell]

I had oath and I was like, nah I get fireballed to destealth in 30s flat, peak cringe

forget this lmfao

[topaz smelt]

All I know is when I cooked the comp everyone swapped to it

[weak shell]

pretty sure I did too

[plain saffron]

Certified fleet maker

[topaz smelt]

Sadly doesn't work on magato

[patent pivot]

imma sleep now @topaz smelt when you get renhex pong me and ill run numbers with tool or sim if its working

[plain saffron]

Can i hire you to provide fleet to my site

[cobalt rapids]

i used nagato till the last day

[topaz smelt]

Ye I'll msg you tmrw thx

[weak shell]

so rice, what's our magamon 15 cook

[patent pivot]

kool, good morning

[topaz smelt]

Prob soy nyak amagi ply kaza unzen

[weak shell]

can I zwei sashi hyperbuff?

[topaz smelt]

Zweis kinda ass

[weak shell]

daisen gun angle

[topaz smelt]

Ye tried it

[weak shell]

oh yea frontline not dying like Wichita

[weak shell]

no work?

[patent pivot]

configs

[topaz smelt]

Zweis does less than cvs

[weak shell]

just there for the stop anyways

stealth should be fine this time right?

[topaz smelt]

Better to run implacable at that point

[weak shell]

no infinity hp fireball exposing your CVs?

[topaz smelt]

I've had burn taken it off but kinda low rate

Like prob 1/10

Nyak has no issues tho

[weak shell]

we'll see after maint ig, surely ez oneshot now

[topaz smelt]

Just hit pity

Prob implacable nano amagi works too

[weak shell]

also how good is this PR7 UR fighter

[weak shell]

maybe if you don't get de-stealth

[topaz smelt]

Pretty good, but not much of a diff this fight

[weak shell]

is it even good 11s rld, how work

[crimson glacier]

we talking meta nagato fleets?

[fickle scarab]

Surely all that burning dmg buff is useless

[weak shell]

ya

[topaz smelt]

You sac TBS to lose dmg

[crimson glacier]

whats wrong with the reload

[atomic abyss]

Strongest rockets, strongest fighter against heavy as well

[topaz smelt]

Hard to sync

[willow dock]

When has aliment DMG ever been noticable? Don't they usually tick for a few hundred?

[crimson glacier]

burn can do respectable damage

[topaz smelt]

Since it would only be implacable and nyak using them

[crimson glacier]

but anyway as far i as i can see amagi is just basic UR CV, does nothing special

[weak shell]

yea saccing TBs just to lose damage and sync

[topaz smelt]

Burn is like prob 20% of shelling

[atomic abyss]

Wait, as in this is Nakh without her skill proc from Russia?

[patent pivot]

No nak got her thing too

[atomic abyss]

Ah

[topaz smelt]

She does ijn levels of dmg without her pair

[weak shell]

still can't tell how good Nyak with her crit damage buff ngl

[patent pivot]

it's like 5am, I'm losing it

[topaz smelt]

Like ijns we're doing like 350k and nyak was right next to them in the same fleet

Nyak+ soy can high roll like 470k avg like 400k

The crit buff is like 10% on avg

[weak shell]

wait it's 3 strikes right?

[topaz smelt]

I don't rmbr lol, I did a lot of both and found they're pretty close

[patent pivot]

almost exactly 10%

[weak shell]

I was promised +20% crit rate :smh:

[patent pivot]

40% crit dmg is her pair buff

she gets constant 20% crit rate

[weak shell]

the slow -> crashed one yea ik

average out 10% huh, feels scammed ngl

[grizzled wave]

based off initial thoughts should I MLB shimano or amagi

[crimson glacier]

did you use any bulins on shinano yet

[grizzled wave]

nope

i have 4 bulins

i have enough cubes for pity so its just a matter of time when i pull amagi who will also need 4 if i plan to MLB her

[crimson glacier]

hard to say, id probably ask someone else, im not seeing amagi be that insane but she probably still beats shinano

[grizzled wave]

ahh okok

[crimson glacier]

i wouldnt be suprised if the choice didnt really matter

[grizzled wave]

i thot she would be meta breaking or something

or at least have a double UR event like CN anniversary

[crimson glacier]

i do think she is relatively the least meta changing JP anniv UR so far but we will see

[grizzled wave]

yeah fs fs

[atomic abyss]

Amagi

[grizzled wave]

@crimson glacier before i head to bed, is there any easy way to obtain UR aircraft plans? I need 1 for wyvern but I did all the classified files and bought out all shops

[atomic abyss]

You can get Shinano via dupes anyways

[crimson glacier]

in opsi?

opsi is just about clearing everything you see and beating both arbiters

[grizzled wave]

is it just rng now?

[grizzled wave]

i cant beat hard arbiter rn unfortunately

[crimson glacier]

you are guaranteed 4 rainbow plates every month if you buy them from shop and beat arbiter, and you can choose what those 4 are

[grizzled wave]

ya i bought all those out already

[crimson glacier]

hard arbiter doesnt drop any rainbows atleast i believe, only normal

[inner delta]

only normal

hard arbiter doesn't matter other than for collecting extra voucher

and maybe tiny bit of gold plate

[crimson glacier]

opsi is a grind, you get steady supply of materials but its not something you can get fast

[grizzled wave]

dudeee at the start of the month I did all the classified files in like a week or less

i think theres like 6 of them and iirc i get a UR plan from it

[crimson glacier]

oh right those exist, but they are one time only deal

[grizzled wave]

it doesnt reset monthly?

[inner delta]

it doesn't

[grizzled wave]

no wayyyy

So i might as well use all my vouchers instead of save them

[gray sphinx]

Soooo amagi CV doesn’t have a slow? That’s kind of disappointing if not cause the only slow I’ve got for CVs is implacable and I haven’t gotten the chance to fully research AvP yet

[inner delta]

it's private

[patent pivot]

On my site

[crimson glacier]

you dont really need anything else than imp

[patent pivot]

It's linked on Sam's site

[crimson glacier]

i havent used any other stopper than imp since she released pretty much

[gray sphinx]

You don’t run two CV fleets in opsi?

[crimson glacier]

i dont see a reason to

[inner delta]

o it's on sam link now?

[atomic abyss]

Only veteran players with plenty of options use 2 CV fleetd

[crimson glacier]

i just have mob fleet BB fleet and CV fleet

i never use my 4th fleet since i never have to

[patent pivot]

Iirc that1nerd's dmg tool or something

[crimson glacier]

i think its just cross fleet meme now

[gray sphinx]

Damn I wish that was me but I don’t think I could clear hard arbiter with two fleets unless my gear was completely decked out like +13 or something

[crimson glacier]

why 2? when you can use mob fleet too

my mob fleet often does 50% if not more dmg to arbiter

[merry trellis]

what's your mob fleet looking like?

[patent pivot]

Oh it's the 'Azur Lane Simulator'

[gray sphinx]

Most of the time they just end up not doing anything but maybe that’s because I use them as a last resort when the boss is low and not at the beginning so any damage I do just gets healed

[crimson glacier]

i was unicorn fdg and uvh until like 2 or 3 months ago, then i switched in soyuz and alsace over the BBs

not that the kms ships wouldnt be good enough, i just used them since forever and felt like changing things up

[paper timber]

So, Amagi CV buff aerial torp, does that mean she buff torp plane?

[frank pulsar]

yes

[atomic abyss]

All kinds of torp
Ship torp, torp bombers, sub torps

[plain saffron]

This time it's torp as a type instead of stats

[crimson glacier]

i mean how much clearer can you even type it, i think datamine makes it perfectly clear already

[dawn crater]

Is it worth pulling the UR with my 200 cubes, or is there another UR after this that is coming soon

[atomic abyss]

Yes it is absolutely worth

[crimson glacier]

well theres new UR around new years, and we dont know if musashi is before it

and imo musashi looks way better than amagi

[dawn crater]

Oh its still far away, might as well try

[sharp comet]

always pull UR

[atomic abyss]

You'll get free rolls for UR reruns anyways

[frank pulsar]

hows la9 against tenrai on heavy

[atomic abyss]

Tenrai still wins

[frank pulsar]

how big is the gap

[sharp comet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9yBGaqLXWk watch the first half

[frank pulsar]

thumbnail already making me question its credibility

ill give it a watch

[inner delta]

why vs

[sharp comet]

jimmy very infamous for being credible

[inner delta]

[novel condor]

[topaz smelt]

Smh no spearfish

[scenic valley]

is UR Amagi the new best unit in the game?

[fathom relic]

There is literally no one able to test that rn

[sharp comet]

there is no best unit in the game to begin with

[atomic abyss]

No because there no one best unit

She does seem to be the best in her niche, admittedly

[rain bobcat]

with the occasional misses yes

[crimson glacier]

i dont think amagi is even in the competition for the best

[turbid dawn]

As good as the -50% first airstrike timer is, I'm presuming it wouldn't be worth it with the restriction of Akagi or Kaga when you can just use better CVs?

[crimson glacier]

i dont see any reason to use it in serious stuff

[glass niche]

Need some help... Do we have ships that can slow every 20s or sync with torp? Except agir and north2.

[atomic abyss]

Eldridge **retro

She inflicts slow when the flagship launches their airstrike/salvos

Ofc this is excluding the many backliners
I'm assuming you're asking about frontliners

[glass niche]

yes only vanguard one

[gray sphinx]

What does having a slow on a vanguard even help with? I know slows on implacable is amazing for CV fleets and you can time all of that stuff but idk what you could do with slows on vanguard

[crimson glacier]

you can run other ships than imp

[atomic abyss]

If your boss is barely moving to begin with
You can use higher damage backliners

[gray sphinx]

Can you even time or alter that slow on Eldridge to match your CV fleets on auto? Or is this just a manual situation

[atomic abyss]

For Nagato meta for example
She only moves after the 2nd strike (for 3 strike comps) or the 3rd strike (for 4 strike comps)

There's nothing to time

[crimson glacier]

what do you think

[atomic abyss]

Eld's slow is inflicted when the flagship launches their attack

[glass niche]

only auto and no slots for implac

[gray sphinx]

Damn, I need to retro my Eldridge pronto lol

[atomic abyss]

So she's not just a "make everything tankier" ship

[crimson glacier]

yeah she is also "died coz you got unlucky" ship 🙂

[atomic abyss]

Sure she's not a god tier tank herself or a god tier AA or a god tier DPS
But she does have excellent utility and asw

[south sequoia]

Oh right, is eldridges slow similar to ark royals in effectivity?

[crimson glacier]

looks like both are 60%

[atomic abyss]

Both are 60% yes

[south sequoia]

Ah

[glass niche]

Do she stacked with agir?

[crimson glacier]

all slows stack

[frank pulsar]

to a max of 80%

[glass niche]

should be good if first 6s 100% slow and 3s 60% from agir

[bold cove]

So i think as a newbie, better to skip this banner and wait for next UR?

[frank pulsar]

agir slow is unreliable, i wouldn't count on it

[atomic abyss]

No, roll

[polar lion]

Who is God tier tank?

[frank pulsar]

no, pull all UR banner

[crimson glacier]

bananapoli

[atomic abyss]

Napoli and Agir

[bold cove]

I just had 280 cubes

[gray sphinx]

No love for anch?

[atomic abyss]

URs are exactly what you've been saving for

[crimson glacier]

anchor isnt close to their level so

[frank pulsar]

^^^ guam and anchorage as well though to a lesser extent

[atomic abyss]

Anchorage is excellent for how easy she is to get
She doesn't stand at the apex tho

[crimson glacier]

guam? lol

[rain bobcat]

guam isnt that crazy tanky outside of AA stages

[bold cove]

Ah ok, and for the 400 cubes which UR i should take? I dont have any UR yet

[frank pulsar]

ancho and guam arent as all round tanky, but they are able to compete in places like w15

[blazing galleon]

how long maintenance?

[sharp comet]

8h

[blazing galleon]

💀

[rain bobcat]

4.5 more hrs

[atomic abyss]

Roll for the limited UR
And ignore the permanent banner UR for now

[gray sphinx]

4 and a half now but the maint is usually 8 hours long

[bold cove]

I mean the 400 pity

[atomic abyss]

Shinano when you reach it

[bold cove]

Thanks alot for the roll info

[atomic abyss]

You can get rainbow BB Friedrich de Grosse for free, who is as good as New Jersey

*free with some effort of course

[bold cove]

Ah yeah i dev Roon for that Conductor

[polar lion]

What does avg Salvo dmg means?

[boreal oriole]

So is Amagus barrage stonks or no?

[atomic abyss]

In this case it should be average airstrike damage

[sharp comet]

each added up and divided by itself

[atomic abyss]

She has 2
Plane barrage seems strong
The phoenix barrage is stronger than expected

[polar lion]

That ss shows nyak total dmg without the pair buff?

[patent pivot]

That is w/pair

[polar lion]

Dang, nyak highest dmger

[patent pivot]

Not new news

[polar lion]

What does nyak fleet looks like? Nyak, Soy,??

[patent pivot]

Nyak/soy/shin or nyak/chkalov/shin

With CVagi it changes to ????

[atomic abyss]

Wouldn't it be Haku over Nano?

[patent pivot]

God no

[polar lion]

I thot it would be CVagi over Nano

[whole crypt]

Hakuryuu 🚮

[polar lion]

Since CVagi is 2nd highest dmger

[whole crypt]

why does everyone get this one wrong

[atomic abyss]

No because she wants to be with other Sakura's

[patent pivot]

I really like shin/CVagi/stop but nak would either eat a vg or shin

[polar lion]

Oo

[patent pivot]

Though I am curious about just taking the 10% loss and seeing how hitrate is then

[gray sphinx]

I LITERALLY got haku to dev30 two weeks ago.

[whole crypt]

I'm thinking Shinano/Amagi/Implacable for heavy

[patent pivot]

Then you take away implac from light

[atomic abyss]

Swap with avp then

[atomic abyss]

Pretty sure the theoreticals favoured Haku over Nano for anti med, no?

[polar lion]

Wdym?

[rapid grail]

hello is amagi Cv good

[whole crypt]

well I'm probably dropping Kearsarge/Yorktown II if that heavy comp happens, and Soyuz/Nakhimov for med

[cobalt rapids]

meaning not activating nakhi

[whole crypt]

light is just whatever

[cobalt rapids]

light/med/heavy are w.e in opsi

[patent pivot]

._.

[atomic abyss]

No
She's very good

[patent pivot]

Personal preference I guess

[polar lion]

Wuts the 10% loss again?

[cobalt rapids]

the crit dmg buff equates to

[atomic abyss]

From not proccing her skill

[patent pivot]

From her 40% crit dmg Amp she would lose

[cobalt rapids]

the loss of it precisely

[whole crypt]

you'll murder Temperance anyway you don't need to keep Kear/YT, it's also the most slot-occupying for the least crossfleet

[patent pivot]

Crossfleet maxing is stupid imo

[polar lion]

Oh those only equates to 10% dmg? I thot it was moar coz 40% cdmg with 20% crate buff seems potent

[patent pivot]

It's what the math works out to

[whole crypt]

at the point of maxing crossfleet making one comp per armour is also stupid because shit dies anyway

[rapid grail]

with amagi CV, what's best fleet now for CV bossing?

[atomic abyss]

Depends on what boss, as always

[patent pivot]

Light and med shouldn't change, heavy is tbd

[cobalt rapids]

lets be honest, u murder them with any cv variation

[whole crypt]

so I don't see why "taking Implacable from anti-light" is a problem

[sharp comet]

ppl r so obsessed with minmaxing when this game is literally cookie clicker difficulty

[polar lion]

What are all the fleets for each armor type look like atm?

[patent pivot]

Depends on boss

[atomic abyss]

Light: Kears+Impla+Yk2
Med: Soy+Haku+Nakh
Heavy: Impla, Nano, Haku(likely replaced with Amagi)

[patent pivot]

Because I don't plan to remove my antilight fleet, and therefore have no intention of trying to cook some comp with her for heavy unless there is some weird circumstance

I'll test whatever comps people throw at me, but I won't cook

[polar lion]

Oo

[atomic abyss]

Just off the top of your head
Any idea how AvP numbers compare to the carriers you tested earlier?

Rough estimate is enough

[patent pivot]

Depends on armor, significantly worse though

[atomic abyss]

Naturally
I'm assuming she's the worse on light

[patent pivot]

Sounds correct

[patent pivot]

I also do not believe that hak > shin for med, would absolutely want to see data on that

[whole crypt]

I only change my OS fleets like once a year or something, I only bother swapping gear for showdowns anyway so boss comps get screwed if showdowns have stupid gimmicks but OS bosses are kind of just going to fold anyway

[patent pivot]

Also heavy is soy/shin/nak or chkaloc/shin/nak

[whole crypt]

but anyway, nothing to change before Amagi gets maxed regardless

[patent pivot]

Personal preference

[plain saffron]

battle UI selection https://streamable.com/dkx7o6

[whole crypt]

fair

[fierce furnace]

ooh we finally get new battle ui in this update?