gameplay-help

[modest moat]

Just checking

[stark quiver]

yes

[sweet delta]

normal for the average player who reaches 15-4

[modest moat]

I guess I’ll just do it manually til I hit safe

[stark quiver]

i mean if u have like good fleet + perfect cat + max tech + +13 u might be abler to auto vlear lethal

[modest moat]

I know for a fact my fleet is sub optimal and my cats are sub optimal

[queen jackal]

can u not change teams in opsi

[keen sable]

i don't like the performance of even threat level 1 true auto at all. seems incredibly risky.

[keen sable]

blue port fleet orders

[quartz breach]

For the new skill that post-retro Eldridge get, does it activate if you are using say Kearsage and you do an airstrike with her or ONLY her main gun?

[atomic abyss]

Both
Assuming it's actually off cool down

There's a 5s cool down from when the skill ends
If you wait out long enough, sure

It's not exactly feasible for auto battle tho

[keen sable]

it will activate on airstrike. my 7234 activates on hvar and mk7

[soft raft]

go to a blue port -> Orders -> Fleet formation

[queen jackal]

[ancient ridge]

Can these be used to level up ships? If so how? Like where's the interface for it?

[vale spindle]

Go to a ship in dock, click on them to open their menu, click on the small text above their exp bar next to their level

[ancient ridge]

Uhmmm... Where?

[finite crag]

That xp bar

[viscid swift]

tap the text "Boost XP"

really though you shouldn't be using XP packs on ships you can grind with

[ancient ridge]

Found it tyty! Was very blind xD

[outer walrus]

Which Commander level do I have to reach to be able to farm EXP books?

[vale spindle]

whichever one unlocks the lecture hall

[atomic abyss]

Level 50

[vale spindle]

But you also need level 100+ ships to farm proficiency (which is converted to exp packs by lecture hall)

[outer walrus]

Best tips for farming Commander level?

[atomic abyss]

Same way you grind normal exp
Full fleet of 6 ships
Highest map you can do

[little tree]

Any way to gear avp better for opsi to do more dmg ? Or do I just have to wait on planes.

[atomic abyss]

AvP wants a German plane for her skill proc

[outer walrus]

Highest map in Story or Event?

[atomic abyss]

Story

[sweet delta]

AvP wants a converging TB to do more dmg

[outer walrus]

Does Story always give more than Event?

I'm stuck at 3-2 in Story

[atomic abyss]

No, depends on where in the story you are

Push the story

Get to chap 9 asap

[outer walrus]

I'm stuck, I can't beat 3-2

[atomic abyss]

What's your team?

[little tree]

Willa tezen work for that ?

[outer walrus]

Some units from a trusty guide I saw online and gibberish

I'll send a picture in a bit

[atomic abyss]

Ok, so what exactly are said ships?

[sweet delta]

it's a bit sus that you have a tenrai but only 1 bf109g and 1 saiun

[atomic abyss]

As long as she actually syncs with the other 2 carries yes

Ofc, BF109G is only best if you are against med/light armour

[outer walrus]

These

[atomic abyss]

[stuck stirrup]

I would run portland as tank and pretty much anything is better than LI

[atomic abyss]

You should be able to demolish up to chapter 6 with ease

[little tree]

I bought 39 prints from the shop

[outer walrus]

I made my account 1 week ago

So don't judge me

[atomic abyss]

Drop Shropshire for Portland
And drop Long Island next

And show us what ships you do have

[sinful escarp]

imma say this about the free gems from clearing: priority is 3rd dorm slot+ 2nd floor dorm, rest is for dock space

[little tree]

I can gear lab craft a Aichi b7a Ryusei or a JU

[atomic abyss]

Um, yes, but did anyone ask that?

[sinful escarp]

just said it cause i know some newbies spend it on cubes. and to be safe

[atomic abyss]

Most newbies would spend it on skins if anything
Or oaths

If anything, the disclaimer should be "don't do more than 1 light build a day outside UR events"

[outer walrus]

These are my highest level units

[atomic abyss]

Drop Shropshire for Portland

Long Island, while the opposite of ideal, is staying because she's max limit broken

Throw all your purple bulins into unicorn first, then Helena

Use the level 24 bulin as well for limit breaking

[stuck stirrup]

Do you have any SRs / SR bulins?

[soft raft]

give this a read as well if you havent already
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[outer walrus]

Yes

[stuck stirrup]

Do you have any SRs that are not bulins

[soft raft]

no you dont
those are the limit break materials for SR ships, not actual ships

[atomic abyss]

In any case
Use those purple bulins to limit break Unicorn and Helena

Actually, little renown can replace long island but... Ehh she's already max limit broken so might as well wait

[outer walrus]

I'm confused

Too many instructions. I don't know what to do.

[stuck stirrup]

#gameplay-help message

And drop shropshire for portland in the tank position

[atomic abyss]

Your fleet should be

Pennsylvania, Unicorn, Long Island
Z23, Helena, Portland

Use your purple bulins to limit break Unicorn first, then Helena

Including the level 24 purple bulin, that should also be used for limit breaking

[barren lava]

any beginners guides?

[little tree]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[outer walrus]

Everything done

[atomic abyss]

Pennsylvania to the middle

[outer walrus]

But you said

[atomic abyss]

And...that should have no issue with up to chapter 6

[little tree]

Make sure to level up unicorns Healing ablilty to 10 before anyone else ablilties

[atomic abyss]

For backline, the first slot to be filled is always the middle, you can't fill it from left to right

[keen sable]

if you remove them all that would be the order you add them

[viscid swift]

when we list ships it's typically as flag, off flag, off flag, main tank, middle, off tank

[outer walrus]

How do I do this

[soft raft]

Academy

[outer walrus]

This?

[little tree]

YES

[atomic abyss]

Yes that

[viscid swift]

Reason is because that's how the game does it

[coarse heron]

are the Hard Arbiters actually "hard" or can I beat them with a merely okay assortment of fleets of 120/125s?

[eager mulch]

level your amagi chan

[little tree]

~~ retire amagi chan!~~

[coarse heron]

like how do they compare to C6 Abyssals? just a bit harder than that?

[eager mulch]

harder

[sweet delta]

much harder

[little tree]

my OPsi fleets can clear c6 easy I cant even get to 70% hp on Harbiter

[coarse heron]

okay well I'll try my random bullshit fleets first then and see how badly they do

[sweet delta]

if you didn't kill normal arbiter in 4 fleets without extra healing, then you won't kill hard arbiter

[coarse heron]

I killed normal Arbiter in like 2 fleets

[storm heron]

if you can one shot normal then hard is randoms

[atomic abyss]

Well this harbiter is quite fiendish so

...I say that but there are people clearing harbiter in within 1 strike

[stark quiver]

fiendish?

[atomic abyss]

Fiendish cos of the every 20s shield

That's what I remember this harbiter having at least

[stark quiver]

ioh yea

[atomic abyss]

It's less difficult
More of annoying af, forcing you to use multiple fleets if you can't deal enough damage

[sweet delta]

when 457 > champ on auto

[viscid swift]

after I finish all tech giving main fleets

[sinful escarp]

does the +13 addition opsi damage also mean META bosses?

[viscid swift]

no

[sweet delta]

it means Sirens in Operation Siren

[sinful escarp]

ahh i see, thanks

[atomic abyss]

Suchi question

How hard is it to 1 strike harbiter like what we saw recently with nakh

[sweet delta]

depends on the boss

[storm heron]

can nakh replace avp?

[undone plover]

~~easy with ranger ~~

[atomic abyss]

Not exactly is the answer I'd give

Nakh can freeze... But she needs a Russian ship that can inflict a slow to begin with

So you have to replace 2 slots to get the same effect

[storm heron]

is off fleet not possible?

[sweet delta]

I can onestrike every harbiter, some in 21 seconds some in 24 seconds. I don't know if I have enough damage to kill this month's before the 20s shield. And most are generous enough to be possible without Helena

[atomic abyss]

?
Kron cross fleet, while applies slow, only applies once after 20s

Practically meaningless

[undone plover]

there is only kron for 1 salvo/strike
not going to help the full fight

[atomic abyss]

You are forced to bring either Soyuz, Chkalov, Voroshilov or Tashkent with Nakh to get her freeze + crit

The only ship that can directly replace AvP is Implacable, who is essentially a superior AvP

[sweet delta]

has anyone here gotten this drop?

[plain saffron]

Ouh so that's where it comes from

[viscid swift]

certainly not

[plain saffron]

I've been looking everywhere where it drop from

It can drops elite sakura gear

Hmm is it unique gimmick with shiranui in fleet

Let me go test

[stark quiver]

is it the augment>?

[plain saffron]

It's a new box

[sinful escarp]

what is inside the box?

[plain saffron]

.

[sinful escarp]

ah, i am blind

[plain saffron]

T3 Sakura Tech Pack (Display Sample)
Contains 1 piece of Elite Sakura Empire faction gear:\n100% chance to receive <color=#d797ff>Elite gear</color>.

Running 1 round with shinarui rn

Unless it needs to be in boss

New plate farming meta?

[atomic abyss]

I need to try this

[plain saffron]

If you want to try, test with her in boss. I'm already doing a run with her in mob

[atomic abyss]

Sure

[plain saffron]

No drops, idk if it's rng either

[atomic abyss]

Suchi said he wasn't using Shiranui
Me confused

[plain saffron]

Huh so it's permanent

@boreal wagon you seeing this?

[atomic abyss]

I didn't get it in the run I tested

Let me test a bit more anyways

[plain saffron]

You testing with shiranui exist or nope

[mellow hornet]

is zuihoi good?

[vale spindle]

zuihou is good but unicorn retrofit is better

[soft raft]

Zuiho more or less falls into the secondary healer niche, but she's worse at it than Aquila and Volga who are the two mainstays of that niche

[little yoke]

is it wrong for me to skip one or two shipgirls in a PR research and just move on to the next one? I tend to grab or beeline into shipgirls that i find interesting so far. ||I skipped Hakuryuu in PR4 simply because i dont like the design and now im alr starting at PR5||

[barren lava]

any good youtube videos or channels for beginners?

[eager mulch]

is skipped skipped as in built or dev30

did you skip building haku or did you skip dev30 haku

[little yoke]

skipped no built and no research mats pick for that girl

[stark quiver]

no theyre all bad

[barren lava]

so how shud i start off

[eager mulch]

are the rest of your pr4 ships dev30

[little yoke]

yes

[eager mulch]

cause it doesn’t matter who you build cause they’re all shit unless dev30

[stark quiver]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[little yoke]

marco alr fate5 even

for haku i dont even have 200 mats rn lol

[barren lava]

ty

[remote yarrow]

Might not be the smartest decision to skip one of the best CVs in the game but you do you

[eager mulch]

might not be a smart decision to not have amagi chan but here we are

[remote yarrow]

[eager mulch]

gn smo0tie ate something bad for lunch and am not feeling well

[remote yarrow]

gn turtle get well

[dawn crest]

I have 500 cubes, at least I can guarantee Amagi UR, but Musashi probably no, or it's possible to get more 300 cubes before her rerun? Or should I give up her and Yorktown II, and keep it for the next year's new URs and URs reruns?

[eager mulch]

mushi rerun will have 44 free tickets plus lots of time before then so you should be good

[soft raft]

we have no real idea when they'll rerun Musashi (Esp when there's one other event in line to rerun first before her) but you should be able to have enough in time to guarentee Pity on her

[remote yarrow]

And nobody knows if you are gonna need to reach pity for Amagi so you might not need those 300 cubes before her Rerun

[keen sable]

if you promise to skip loveru and december ur sure

[soft raft]

Tho uh
It's not gonna get any easier from here so better hope you get lucky and be able to build up a good stockpile

[little yoke]

i realized that lol, my CV is honestly pretty mid since im still relying on my Formidable+Centaur lvl125 duo as my best CV pairing but hey

[soft raft]

damn you dont have Enterprise?

[elfin hollow]

Do they give out UR bullins during UR event reruns?

[dawn crest]

i skipping every event that's not a UR event.

[little yoke]

never used her

[remote yarrow]

Yes at 15k milestone

[soft raft]

yes
at 15k pts compared to the usual 30k

[elfin hollow]

Awesome

Tysm

[keen sable]

sounds like you don't play enough

[dawn crest]

There is another 2 events before.

[remote yarrow]

The game gives you enough cubes to not need to skip any event unless you get really unlucky tho

[soft raft]

right
i kinda didnt count Roma becuase we got confirmation it's happening so it's gonna be relatively soon™

[dawn crest]

I do the events, but I don't pull

[frank pulsar]

eh i skipped a few due to low cube, i can see casuals not being able to pull all events

[little yoke]

Probably can start using Shinano more i guess? I only got her recently lol

[soft raft]

Non-collab reruns are basically unchanged from the regular events save for:

• Runtime duration is shorted to 1 week
• Reduced pt requirements for the event milestones
• Free build tickets (~30 for regular events, ~44 for UR events)
• Daily bonus on normal stages is 5x while Hard mode stages get a 3x daily bonus

[frank pulsar]

nah, needs last limit break first

[remote yarrow]

"My CV is honestly pretty mid"
Not using Enterprise and not going to get Hakuryuu

[dawn crest]

Since Soyuz, I've been on a streak of bad luck.

[remote yarrow]

You are actively choosing to not use good CVs

[coarse heron]

Once I finish Agir DR catchup, who should I do next? my choices are PR3 and the Rapper Drake, PR4 and Haku, or PR/DR5.

[barren lava]

how do i get who i want

[frank pulsar]

do pr4
pr2 and pr3 are completely skippable

[viscid swift]

depends on who it is exactly you want

[barren lava]

like non-collab units

[coarse heron]

my Marco Polo and Anchovy are already Dev30, so it would really be just to finish German Thighs

[remote yarrow]

That's alot of ships

[viscid swift]

all non collab units?

[frank pulsar]

thats like 600 ships, you gotta be more specific

[barren lava]

maybe alsace

[coarse heron]

I did PR2 catchup 3 years ago man

[viscid swift]

Alsace is event limited, you can't get her right now

[soft raft]

Can you narrow it down from the like 700+ ships in the game?
Some are perament
Some are currently not perament
Some are avaliable via other methods

[frank pulsar]

unobtainable at the moment, shes event locked

[barren lava]

ah how about st louis

[viscid swift]

which one

[soft raft]

the American Elite CL? perament light pool
the French SR CA? Research

[remote yarrow]

I guess the blue haired one?

[barren lava]

yeah

[frank pulsar]

theres blue hair one and gray hair one, which one are you refering to
blue one is a drop, gray one is in pr1 research
i didnt know shes farmable

[soft raft]

Also give this a read, it'll help
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[viscid swift]

light pool, she's also a map drop from 10-2 or 10-3

[keen sable]

lewdis, farm her

[remote yarrow]

I think he already did

[barren lava]

ya i did

[soft raft]

hopefully you read this section then
cuz spamming perma banners to go for a ship you want isnt a good idea
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips#gacha

(This is namely because event banners will take from either heavy or special pool so it's more worthwhile to pull on event banners for both the chance of said ships and the event banner ships)

[barren lava]

sure not going to pull

should i just push story for now

and how do i get gems

[soft raft]

yes

[remote yarrow]

Yes, with the recommended fleet that's in the guide

[coarse heron]

The primary source of free gems is 3 starring campaign maps

[soft raft]

you get a few free ones from doing various things, but the main source of gems is the good ol credit card

[barren lava]

how much can a f2p realistically save up

[remote yarrow]

Guaranteed 4800 iirc for beating all content

[soft raft]

If you're a F2P, 3rd dorm slot, 2nd floor of dorm, and dock space (And nothing else) are the reccomended ones

[remote yarrow]

And before you think about buying skins and whatnot, don't

[leaden osprey]

this

Had to whale because I just flat out ran outta dock space

[remote yarrow]

If you wanna buy skins,rings,etc it should come out of your pocket, if you are gonna stay F2P do what Blaster said

[barren lava]

got it

should i even do this event or focus story first

[leaden osprey]

Do event

[coarse heron]

You get around ~3700 gems if you clear all 15 worlds, iirc

[leaden osprey]

Get Zuihou

[coarse heron]

then there's the one time gems from other sources

[little yoke]

ok you guys convinced me i guess. Im rn still want to get PR30 Shimanto since best girl just oathed her lol, but imma back to researching PR4 after it is done

[remote yarrow]

He just started tho

Can he even get to 10k points before the event ends on a brand new account?

[leaden osprey]

Spam Mission 1 then? IDK

[soft raft]

Zuiho's nice to get, but she's not a absolute must

At best she's gonna be a secondary healer and a downgrade to Aquila and Volga

[coarse heron]

doing the events is still free stuff on a brand new account

[leaden osprey]

IDR which ships give bonus points

[remote yarrow]

This event's milestones are pretty mid outside of Zuihou

[soft raft]

i dont remember exactly but a majority of them wont be easily acessable or generally worth it for a new player

[coarse heron]

for a brand new player the very first reward is pretty good, 5 skill books

[leaden osprey]

Yeah, I remember that it's Zuikek, Mikasa and Daikon

[remote yarrow]

Idk I would just push campaign

[leaden osprey]

Campaign ain't going anywhere tho

[wind hazel]

event always take priority over campaign

[leaden osprey]

Oh, don't forget daily three 3-4 Hard

[wind hazel]

unless you're at like... chapter 1

[remote yarrow]

I think he is

[wind hazel]

then he is forced to do campaign before he can unlock event

[soft raft]

regular event yee
but with a SP format single ship event like this, kinda doubt it since there's no event shop to spend your points on, it's either the 10k milestone or bust

[wind hazel]

it's still event>campaign, regardless

[coarse heron]

He could just do T1 4 times and get free 5 skill books

[wind hazel]

campaign isn't going anywhere

[sweet delta]

Does chapter 9 drop gold tech boxes? I mean in your experience, not what the game or wiki says

[tame pivot]

What UR gear would you all say I should craft next in the gear lab? This is my current UR gear and my current gear lab resources..

[stark quiver]

well you could get a third wyvern

[sweet delta]

how many selectors do you have?

[tame pivot]

13 :d

[sweet delta]

i would take a third wyvern

[hallow iron]

Guys I'm gonna do a pr1 catch up but not sure which ship, is monarch or izumo more useful? I can fit them in my 4th fleet for opsi I think

I got howe on the 4th fleet so maybe monarch is better but izumo looks cuter

[stark quiver]

monarch

[sweet delta]

you should coin the ship to dev 30 so that you can burn the catchup blueprints for protocore

[hallow iron]

Oo that sounds good too

[sweet delta]

izumo is better but only if you pay extra, and whether it's worth paying extra is a question that needs more context like your BBs to be answered

[golden moth]

Is it correct the skills of the new ships will be released on wed

[tame pivot]

what would you do after a wyvern? or if i wanted to make something else considering my current UR gear :d

[keen sable]

if wed means like 1 minute before wednesday ends maybe

[stark quiver]

get the wyvern first then we will see

[copper ermine]

for yuudachi retrofit what aux should i replace for the sr oxygen torpedo, repair kit or fire suppressor?

[sweet delta]

depends on what you want to do,
Mk7 if you are done with the higher gold gun plate priorities AND you are struggling with some light armor boss
or AA gun if you are struggling with chapter 13H or 15

[static harbor]

So Unzen still better damage than Ibuki with aug?

[sweet delta]

a lot better

[tulip dawn]

yes unless the battle is short

[static harbor]

Ah well, so much for that

[tulip dawn]

its still a UR vs non UR

[urban spruce]

Is this considered good? I almost have enough for it.

[gray sphinx]

guys I don't think my cubes are gonna last. We have a UR event and a collab coming soon. Am I screwed with 70 cubes or do I have time to save?

[urban spruce]

Opsi has cubes

Also have you finished Memento quests & campaign?

Those also give cubes

[stark quiver]

youre pretty screwed

event lasts 2 weeks, which is like ariund 100 cubes if you grind during the timre

[sweet delta]

It's a side grade to the gold quad mag, not worth but since you already have 9 designs then might as well. Unless you want to save for a future torpedo

[stark quiver]

it lasts 3 weeks?

[viscid swift]

Collab won't be until late November probably

[urban spruce]

Darn TwT so it's practically the same as gold quality?

[sweet delta]

Sometimes better sometimes worse

[urban spruce]

Kay thank u!

[viscid swift]

Yes

[tropic tusk]

would anyone know if musashi will come relaunch anytime soon?

[forest palm]

doubtful

[left cedar]

soon
it will, yeah

[tropic tusk]

so the only hope there is is she going into the perma pool like those 3

[forest palm]

in fact don't think we'll see a rerun till 2025 unless they finagle the schedule

[left cedar]

no, Rerun them 2~3y after perma

[spring scarab]

I have doubt what is "Yamato" ship that I hear everywhere??

[left cedar]

basically same ship in real life than Musashi

[tropic tusk]

y wait till 2025

[left cedar]

difference here and there, but same ...

[plain saffron]

She exist, no sprite etc but mentioned in story

[tropic tusk]

i know the next one is amgi UR but even after a few events theres still time this year

[plain saffron]

And somehow a pretty popular ship even outside that, something² legendary

[left cedar]

cope for CV UR KMS

[viscid swift]

we know Roma is next to rerun, and with the Schedule as is the lastest she can rerun is October or November

[gilded shale]

Should I continue to farm t3 if I've already got the 12k points?

[remote yarrow]

Nope, no reason

[viscid swift]

in other words unless they put Musashi ahead of Brunhilde and squeeze her in at the end of the year, there's no way Musashi get's rerun this year

[tropic tusk]

This?

[strong tartan]

Hi Roma

[left cedar]

i quite doubt they will squeeze a UR Rerun this year ...

[tropic tusk]

I mean can't they just randomly add her into perma during the rest week?

[viscid swift]

they haven't jumped a major event straight to the Archives since 2018

[forest palm]

Aquilifer's Ballade(Roma) → Operation Convergence(Bruhild) → Blooming Lycoris(Musashi)

[grizzled sundial]

3 event pull before Musashi.....

I need to find that event rerun schedule and look for Bis Zwei

[tropic tusk]

Cause shimakaze came out so fast into to perma pool not long after nj and shinano goes to perma

[remote yarrow]

I would say like 5 or 6 before Musashi if they don't change the schedule

[tropic tusk]

Or is that just coincidence

[viscid swift]

perma pool is different from reruns

and the archiving schedule has been fucked for a while

[tropic tusk]

So the perma pool is random

U won't know wht they will add into it

[left cedar]

pretty much UR Perma it will be fucked for a long time ... 4 new UR per year with 2 rerun UR per year ... isnt a rocket science to understood

[tame pivot]

made a 3rd wyvern and this is my leftover resources..

what would you suggest to make next?

[tropic tusk]

If U look at it on another way they are trying to help new players to catch up

[viscid swift]

it should have gone something like
Shinano -> Henrich -> Bellorussiya -> Aquila -> NJ -> Shima
but instead it was
Henrich -> NJ and Shinano -> Bellorussiya -> Angel of Iris -> Shima -> Aquila

[left cedar]

i'm just saying that perma and UR Reruns it will be in near future fucked

[remote yarrow]

Does someone have the Data Sync per day sheet? I wanna make sure I didn't miss a support call

[tropic tusk]

At the end of the day this is still business so if they put more UR into perma for new players ,then they will just swipe more

It's good for players and investors

[sweet delta]

[stark quiver]

for now save
next depends on what you are doing

[remote yarrow]

It isn't tho

[viscid swift]

continue to cope how you want

I make calls based on what they've done previously

[forest palm]

the Devs have made it absolutely clear since day one the main focus for money will always be outfits over their own gacha

[tropic tusk]

All we can do is just wait :/

[tropic tusk]

Ya that I can tell by the amount of skins

But players won't buy skins if they don't own the ship

[forest palm]

anyway this discussion is past the point of the scope of the channel, and in the realm of #al-general

[rose cosmos]

Is battle pass worth it

[stark quiver]

if u like the skin

[rose cosmos]

What about the monthly pass

[remote yarrow]

It adds up, but I don't see it being worth past the 500 gems

You get the same amount of oil and coins it gives in a month in like less than a week about the cubes like a week and a half?

[keen sable]

p2w faster

[left cedar]

depends on u, Skins and the rewards are fine, but ur money only u can measure how much u can spendt
imo its worth it, cuz i'm tryharder and a bit of the resourcers there is a thing for me

[forest palm]

this would imply that there's anything to actually win

[wind hazel]

fleet power ranking

[left cedar]

i cant fleet power since i got only Axis + Russians - Frenchs - DDs

[rose cosmos]

Well technically with a monthly pass you can snowball gems into a skin once in a while rite?

[keen sable]

if you want gems, get gems

[rose cosmos]

So the pass isn't worth it?

I can get the double up packs yeah

[left cedar]

Cruiser Pass is more
Resourcers + Skins

gems once have double value are alot better, if the objective is buy skins

[keen sable]

not for gems, no

[wind hazel]

it's worth after spending all the gem bonus imo

[rose cosmos]

Man I should of gotten into this game earlier, this thing is comfy fun, it's like animal crossing

[remote yarrow]

Interesting comparison

[finite crag]

I get it

[sinful escarp]

its not comfy when the sortie starts and everyone says their entry line at the same time

[pseudo stream]

How to kill guild boss?

[wind hazel]

have members attack until hp drop to 0%

[pseudo stream]

I mean like how to have my attack "kill it". What main fleet to use

[slow fox]

Thank you mori I will do that next time

[left cedar]

put guns, pew pew, done

[wind hazel]

usually stacking rainbow will do

[left cedar]

jokes aside, depends on wut u are using, ships and gears

[tropic tusk]

wait when is the next event starting? like wt date

[pseudo stream]

Vanguard is Guam, Helena, Plymouth, want to steal mainline ships from guildmates but I don't know what's good to use

[viscid swift]

12th

[plain saffron]

Who you have

[left cedar]

this front line seens decent enough to "middle" BBs deal with it

[tropic tusk]

ok thx

[plain saffron]

Find 3 CV with torp bomber

Usually shinano haku someone

[left cedar]

why CVs once Ply is there Naga ?

[plain saffron]

Then remove ply

[left cedar]

BBs can kill it as well

[plain saffron]

Depends on who he can borrow

[hollow gust]

Or just use Plymouth as a tank

[plain saffron]

And their gear

[left cedar]

if Vang and Thurin buff my FdG to hell to beat the shitty out of guild boss, i can grant u that Ply can boost a single musa to it

[hollow gust]

2 UR bbs , a Helena and a tank beats guilds boss

[plain saffron]

2 ur cv and ark and helena beats guild boss

[remote yarrow]

Yes, always check the gear of what you are borrowing to avoid weird or bad loadouts

[wind hazel]

bulears

[left cedar]

i already beat with KMS BCs ...

so pretty much alot of things can do that

[pseudo stream]

I'm always getting down to 10% by the time time runs out

[plain saffron]

Guild boss is a low bar. But still in the end, depends on what he can borrow

[wind hazel]

post your mainline dock

[left cedar]

can be out of sync with helana ... wut gears are u using

[plain saffron]

He wants to borrow entire main fleet

[left cedar]

cant, max 2

[wind hazel]

[plain saffron]

Ouh max 2, i thought 3

[wind hazel]

you can borrow 2?

[remote yarrow]

Are you using the correct gear against it? Boss is heavy unless you are fighting another one

[hollow gust]

Just borrow 2 bbs from your guild members

[plain saffron]

Or 2 CV, depends

[left cedar]

Naga, are u holding urself to recommend Sara ?
cuz i got a strange feeling about this

[plain saffron]

Wut i never even recommended sara
I'm just saying pick CV or BB depending on the gear on support ships

Like if the 2 ur have shit gear pick cv, if cv have shit gear pick bb

But he never send the screenshot of the support ships so

[hollow gust]

Wut? A shit bb is almost always stronger then a shit CV

[left cedar]

its hard to me be sarcastic in EN, goddamit, i need learn that

[plain saffron]

Also I'm biased towards cv for anti heavy so that's probably what you thinking

[remote yarrow]

You said BB twice

[left cedar]

that explain better to me

well, the worse CV i can think is ... Eagle ?

[plain saffron]

Because 2 torp bomber slot

So not even gonna recommend sara

[wind hazel]

is there actually any reward difference if you don't 1shot guild boss?

[hollow gust]

Shit CV with bad gear does no damage , Shit bb gear still have barrage

[plain saffron]

Nope, just time saving

[pseudo stream]

Just want to do it for fun

[left cedar]

a fine tunning with middle BBs can already kill that Boss probally

[plain saffron]

Time saving that have no different since only 2 guild ops per month anyway

[wind hazel]

well it's about time for you to actually post your dock so that we can help you to have fun, brother

[left cedar]

since u got Ply ... well, at least i'm considering her with D30 ...

[plain saffron]

Anyway it's not going anywhere because he didn't post any screenshot

We don't even know his current lineup

[left cedar]

VG: Guam/Helena/Ply

[plain saffron]

Other than vg

[left cedar]

With Ply and Helena i think that Eagle BBs can do that, and i'm not saying NJ or Kea...

Indiana middle being buffed with other 2 GOld USS BBs can kill it ... pretty sure

and of course, synced with Helena ... if not synced, why in hell use helena ...

[placid chasm]

I feel like Helena is a everybody knows cruiser

[vale spindle]

wife

[left cedar]

ok, u got me there

[placid chasm]

Woah, more people reacted me with Helena related emoji

[vale spindle]

its 2 per main and 2 per vanguard i believe

[grizzled sundial]

Is FDG special barrage affect by her 2nd skill that buff crit or only normal salvo benefit from it ? Feel like her special barrage deal no damage the first time she proc it while the next one chew through enemies .

[vale spindle]

its affected by her skill 2 yes

so depending on when you proc the barrage it can affect the damage cause a different buff is active

also her barrage from firing her main gun (which you get after fate simulation) is weaker than her proximity barrage so keep that in mind

[grizzled sundial]

Wut...so her fate simulation make the special barrage weaker ?

[finite crag]

Fate sim gives her a barrage when firing her main gun

That barrage is weaker than the proximity barrage

[vale spindle]

fate sim adds an additional barrage on top of the existing one (which is weaker than the existing one, but more barrages = more damage )

[placid chasm]

I get it I get it! Helena is popular man!

[umbral briar]

ask, it still can grind pr ship with max 3m exp ship?

[finite crag]

Yes

[remote yarrow]

Yes, but it's better to just use another ship and not waste exp, if you are talking about using a Lv125 with 3m exp

[umbral briar]

yeah, just curious because the Exp is not displayed

[silent relic]

is saint louis good

[remote yarrow]

Which one?

[keen sable]

she's good for protocore for sure

[silent relic]

research one

[remote yarrow]

she's okay

[silent relic]

alr

[outer walrus]

What did I just unlock?

[remote yarrow]

The biggest coin sink in the game Meowfficers

[plain saffron]

Just continue with the tutorial

[tropic tusk]

oh yea is there cat guide?

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[tropic tusk]

thx

[rose cosmos]

For a boss fleet Shimano, who should I pair her with

[outer walrus]

How can I do this?

[strong tartan]

shimanto or shinano

[remote yarrow]

Depot > Item > Click/Tap a T1 or T2 box > Compose

You should be composing to T3 and then opening them

[rose cosmos]

Shinano

[remote yarrow]

If you wanna activate the Sakura buff, Hakuryuu + another IJN ship, if possible someone like Kazagumo but that's mostly used in actual CV fleets for opsi

[rose cosmos]

Can I do taihou

[remote yarrow]

Depends on who you are replacing for her, if it's Enterprise, nope

[rose cosmos]

I'm having her and enter atm

With yuudachi at the front

[remote yarrow]

Is your Shinano even MLB?

[rose cosmos]

Yeah

[strong tartan]

I'd probably use implac or avp for the third slot

[rose cosmos]

Don't have both of them though

[remote yarrow]

What is this fleet for btw?

[strong tartan]

Oh

[rose cosmos]

In fact my CV jpn is pretty shit

[rose cosmos]

Air superior bosses

[remote yarrow]

that sounds made up

[strong tartan]

What is that

[rose cosmos]

Well for the ones in 13-4 or so, since I want to farm there

[soft raft]

Just farm in W12

[rose cosmos]

But my boss fleets kept dying midway

[wind hazel]

who's dying, main or vanguard

[soft raft]

What does your fleet look like?

[wind hazel]

campaign you can pair her with anyone, not much restriction

[wind hazel]

vanguard dies i guess

[rose cosmos]

Well yeah

[remote yarrow]

yeah that seems pretty dead in 13-4

[wind hazel]

i would change everyone on the vanguard

[remote yarrow]

Starting with that Helena is tanking and NJ is not Flag

[hidden garnet]

Change taihou

[soft raft]

Ah yup that'll do it
Lack of proper AA and your main tank is in the wrong position

[soft raft]

I think the main tank Helena is a bigger problem than her

[hidden garnet]

Yea I agreed also

[rose cosmos]

Can y'all build me one

[inner delta]

are you farming bunker hill?

[rose cosmos]

Wait the one in the left is for tanking rite

[remote yarrow]

I'm surprised you made it to 13-4 without a proper AA ship to start with

[inner delta]

the mob fleet prolly has aa?

[hidden garnet]

I think Portland is the final answer

[remote yarrow]

Answer to what

[inner delta]

if roon is there dont need to change to portland

just need to actually put roon to front

[rose cosmos]

Aa in like heavy cruiser?

[hidden garnet]

Yes I am surprised too because you can through 13-4

[inner delta]

backline cv and cruisers and dds that has aa

[remote yarrow]

AA as in like someone who has good AA capabilities, Juneau,Cheshire,Guam,Sandy,Shimanto and so on, I'm guessing you used a triple CV backline for mob

[rose cosmos]

Yeah, zuihou uni and Sara for mob

[remote yarrow]

oh well, try swapping Helena with Roon and maybe Enterprise for Taihou

I'm not too sure if Shinano's IJN buff outweighs Enterprise

[rose cosmos]

And nj for flagship rite

[remote yarrow]

Yep

[outer walrus]

Are more loading screens unlockable or do they cycle as the devs intend them to?

[remote yarrow]

They cycle

[remote yarrow]

You can check past ones in here https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Loading_Screens

[hidden garnet]

Yuudachi mid

[rose cosmos]

I'm equipping gear using the tier list

[strong tartan]

what

[rose cosmos]

Is that at least ok

[remote yarrow]

That might not be the best

[hidden garnet]

Swap Helena to Yuudachi

[wind hazel]

no

[rose cosmos]

Why's that

[wind hazel]

your fleet is ok, go try again, with AA formation

[remote yarrow]

Oh yeah, use Circular formation

[wind hazel]

as long as they are properly geared

[remote yarrow]

They might not be if they are using ECTL, but maybe they are reading gear notes?

[wind hazel]

just roomba everything 🏃🏼‍♂️

[remote yarrow]

Can you show your AAs btw, in depot and ofc show equipped

[hidden garnet]

Helena off-tank. Yea if you put Yuudachi on there it's ok also

[rose cosmos]

It apparently shows only the ones that aren’t equipped yet?

[inner delta]

wdym

[remote yarrow]

You mean your depot? Just tap this in the bottom left corner

[stark quiver]

Which hm stage gives cv prints

[remote yarrow]

x-4

[strong tartan]

X-4

[stark quiver]

Truly a tragedy

[rose cosmos]

Oh I have another twin 113

[inner delta]

twin 113 is usually for the aa carries

quad bofors is fine in this case

[remote yarrow]

I would use 2 Bofors and 1 Roomba in each vanguard give the 113 to Helena and Laffey

[inner delta]

this is 100% helena die because choukai bullet hurt

[remote yarrow]

I think it's 13-4 so Taihou is even scarier

[inner delta]

wait right choukai is 12

[rose cosmos]

I use laffey in mob

Is it even decent

[remote yarrow]

Wait, I forgot Emden can't use AAs

[remote yarrow]

It's decent

[rose cosmos]

So wait, if it strictly for money, 12-4 is still the best place rite

Or is there a better map in 14/15

[inner delta]

13 is better but if you just keep dying then 12 is better

14 and 15 is too much hassle

[rose cosmos]

Apparently you need 2 heal cv for mobs in 15 rite

[inner delta]

yes

same with 14

[rose cosmos]

Is zuihou and uni still serviceable by then

I do not have any cleric cv

[inner delta]

uni is always servicable everywhere

[remote yarrow]

Uni is the best healer in the game so yes

[inner delta]

zuiho is good option

for 2nd healer

[remote yarrow]

Zuihou can be replaced by Volga or Aquila but she's decent

[inner delta]

not can be but want be

[boreal wagon]

must be very rn cuz i did test both mob and boss a few times and haven't seen it yet

[forest palm]

I mean if it's free shit that can drop, the idea of just slotting Shiranui while I farm vanguard shitters is entertaining

[topaz smelt]

anyone mind giving me feedback for my new guide?

[wind hazel]

too text heavy

[leaden osprey]

One nitpick is that Resolve debuff can be removed by any of your fleets winning a battle, not just the debuffed one

[wind hazel]

generally feel too crampy. might be nice separating them into just 4-5 picture a page, descriptions

[topaz smelt]

yes i understand the current generation cant fucking read but this is prob the least amount of text i can fit without losing info

[topaz smelt]

will fix that

[forest palm]

so far

• breaking it up into boxes instead of two large text bodies might make it more palpable
• "highly not recommended" → "strongly not recommend"

or strongly discouraged

[topaz smelt]

i kinda wanted to keep it as a single image as it would be easier to share

[leaden osprey]

Also probably would be nice to mention that if your fleets are decent, as long as the ship is not sunk, you are better off using repair packs to heal them instead of healing them at port for OpSi coins

At least in my experience, there's always a surplus of repair packs

[forest palm]

oh, what I mean is breaking up each section with a line so it's not two large bodies of text, I'm going back to read it again, but ya that's gonna cause eye strain I feel as is

[exotic wren]

How about dividing them in 2 then, one with the Key Mechanics and the other with Map etc

[topaz smelt]

that i can do

[exotic wren]

~~My myopia worsened just reading it ~~

[leaden osprey]

Also, shop mechanics have changed

[topaz smelt]

not for newbies

unless that was changed recently too

[forest palm]

the pre-Ch 5 experience is as vanilla as ever, nothing new

[leaden osprey]

Extra shop assortments unlock as you clear normal zones

[wind hazel]

maybe include some coloured fonts too

[topaz smelt]

i was thinking about it but i dont want my guide to look like a rainbow

ill prob figure something out

[wind hazel]

something simple like this, just 2-3 colour

just black and white really discourage reading

[topaz smelt]

fair enough

[forest palm]

ya was about to say don't need to turn it into unicorn vomit

[forest palm]

you only get this post ch 4

[topaz smelt]

is it ch4 or after reset?

[eternal basalt]

Both

[topaz smelt]

so the shop immediately changes upon ch4 completion?

[plain saffron]

Wait it change as soon as you finish ch4?

[eternal basalt]

Both as in both need to happen

[plain saffron]

Then after first reset in that img is correct
Since you only reset if you cleared ch4

[topaz smelt]

is there anything else i should cover to help newbs, start opsi/ have an easier time progressing thru it?

[plain saffron]

Focus 2 fleet in early game prob

[forest palm]

would it not be better to list what actually converts into vouchers, or is that too much of a word soup

[topaz smelt]

a bit much

i want to cover the basics, specifics can be found on the wiki

[forest palm]

fair enough

[topaz smelt]

the issue i want to address are newbs not doing opsi cuz its too intimidating/confusing

[forest palm]

simple is best then, got it

[crisp raven]

thoughts on swapping the 2 columns? most people gravitate to reading from left to right, so putting the story node left top might be easier to see.

[topaz smelt]

i think understanding the mechanics is prob more important

altho most of the mechs arent really important

[crisp raven]

tbf, changing ships and how to unstuck do tend to be the most common opsi questions. 50/50 on which column would be most neded for someone.

[topaz smelt]

well those ppl are the ones who have already started doing opsi, im trying to target more towards those who are like w12 with no gear and havent touched opsi

[forest palm]

the wording bothers me on this one
"There are 2 hidden mobs after hidden path behind the boss to reset Resolve debuffs"
also you can use "clear Resolve debuff"

[tame jungle]

i got someone who fits that description pretty much exactly, i'll send him this

[topaz smelt]

is my en shit or is the underlined part not making sense

[forest palm]

it really isn't that's why I pointed it out

you could say there's 2 paths on either side of the boss that leads to hidden mobs

[exotic wren]

...uh behind?

[topaz smelt]

"There are 2 hidden paths in the corners behind the boss, each leading to a mob fight that can be used to clear Resolve debuffs."
hows this

[placid chasm]

How guild shop reset works?

[forest palm]

that's better

[topaz smelt]

guild shop refreshes twice a week
the refresh button just rolls the shop again, which you should use after buying everything relevant
not sure which one you are asking about

[placid chasm]

In guild when it’s sold out

[muted ember]

can someone give me the link to the poverty equipment list again?

I lost it

[lavish geyser]

Hello guys i have a question about the skin shop of the next event,during the live they said that Will rerun all the skin before March of this year
This rerun Will come for global too? Or Is jp exclusive?
I started playing some months ago and i Need the old skins hahahahah

[forest palm]

@topaz smelt for stronghold perhaps "no consequences" → "no additional cost"

[sweet merlin]

the ur will come this week maint, right?

[vale spindle]

jp exclusive

en already had that during en anniversary

[topaz smelt]

ehh? its more of a reference to how you would lose hidden and abyssals upon leaving

[forest palm]

I can understand that, I was just thinking if a new player may think they have to pay the 200 AP again

[lavish geyser]

Ty for the information❤️
Next skin rerun Will be during black Friday i guess?

[vale spindle]

likely yes

[lavish geyser]

Nice tò know
Ty again

[topaz smelt]

what if i used "no repercussion"?

[steep moat]

how to get limited protrial frame ?

[topaz smelt]

event missions when the event starts

[forest palm]

ya that would work

[steep moat]

oh the event is not yet started ?

[forest palm]

ya Call to Arms is a preamble to the main event, it stays active a week after the main event

[steep moat]

oh okay ty u i understood

[rose cosmos]

So I has a 120 august, should I replace nj with her

[plain saffron]

We did?

[errant wing]

does the 2x oil consumption 2 times reward thing gives 2x exp gained for fleets too?

[forest palm]

@topaz smelt "You are free to pace yourself completing OPSI notables" could put "while" in between the two underlined words for better readability

[plain saffron]

Double everything except no of runs

[errant wing]

cool, ty

[forest palm]

it does, it is 2 runs in 1, so it'll double all the positives, and negatives of a single run, as an additional note ship drops are separate rolls

[topaz smelt]

starting to look more like unicorn vomit, but is this better?

[plain saffron]

Ngl some are kinda hurt to read, but that's probably just me

[vale spindle]

did we
or do we get it on black friday

[topaz smelt]

trust me i dont wanna read either

[forest palm]

it's looking better for sure

[vale spindle]

i think it looks like unicorn vomit

maybe you should make this a wiki page instead, cause i mean its 90% text anyways

[eternal basalt]

Black Friday, yes

X-mas for the east people

[topaz smelt]

its gonna look like unicorn vomit but youll figure out everything important without having to read 99% of it if i highlight the important bits

[forest palm]

compared to other pieces of I've seen it's the least, "unicorn vomit" I've seen
some people go overboard, this isn't that obnoxious, and it catches the eye on where to look

[topaz smelt]

non zero chance i went overboard

[forest palm]

there isn't any other grammatic bits that bother me with that piece, aside from some really nitpicky qualms that can be brushed off

[topaz smelt]

send it anyways

[zinc hedge]

it is fine, I can get the main point just by look for certain colour the images...

[errant wing]

does the unzen NJ etc skins that r rerunning in jp rerun for EN too? or just JP? i heard we get reruns on black friday instead idk

[forest palm]

they'll rerun for EN too it's a simul-release

[topaz smelt]

how readable is this now

[errant wing]

thnk god, ty for the answer

[forest palm]

looks better to me

[hollow gust]

Too much words for EN

[topaz smelt]

its colorful enough for EN

[hollow gust]

Also isn't the Green ! Also representing story nodes pre chapter 4

[dusk maple]

red text on black kinda sucks for colorblind

[topaz smelt]

wait is it green?

[crimson glacier]

opsi story? isnt it red

[topaz smelt]

i rmbr the green ones but idk where its from

[hollow gust]

I'm pretty sure you get those green ! Before chapter 4

[atomic abyss]

Please bold the title too

[plain saffron]

Isn't it green

[topaz smelt]

anyone able to provide a ss of that?

[hollow gust]

Lemme see if lil e acc still has it

Hmm no

[topaz smelt]

any chance it was changed to red in an update?

theres my answer

[hollow gust]

Ik majority of it is red but for some reason green was also showing up . Oh well shouldn't be a problem

[topaz smelt]

hows orange on black?

[plain saffron]

Usual AL consistency

[boreal wagon]

i think it turns green when you are in the "secure x zones" additional mission to round out a story chapter

[dusk maple]

yeah that works

[placid chasm]

Is the wait time for guild rejoin is one day? Is it correct?

[topaz smelt]

24hr iirc

[placid chasm]

Alr, cool

[sturdy badger]

Need help with who to build next in Research. I've completed building Anchorage (Not fully developed due to the fact I didn't focus on her BP before. My bad. If I have, she would be fully developed the moment I got her)

[atomic abyss]

have you done friederich de grosse yet (in series 2)

[sturdy badger]

I'll get her to Dev. 30 by this Wednesday

[atomic abyss]

august should be next then
then hakuryuu

[sturdy badger]

The 300. Is it for each ship or the total?

[atomic abyss]

300 is shared amongst all the gold ships (so total)

rainbows get 150 each

[sturdy badger]

Oh, damn... So rn, I should just stay focus on Anchorage?

While building August

[atomic abyss]

yes, or you could finish the catch up for agir first

[half plover]

I managed to beat 13-1 once and failed 2 times after that, are my odds to bad and it is just oil wasting at this point？

[atomic abyss]

doesnt matter which order you do

[half plover]

13-1hard

[atomic abyss]

manual it if it's on lethal

[sturdy badger]

I've fully catch up Agir. She's sitting on dev. 21 rn

[atomic abyss]

could do it for haku then

[sturdy badger]

Ahh....

In the long run, I'll get her eventually...

[atomic abyss]

sakura event upcoming, wont be that long

[sturdy badger]

Oh, yes. UR Amagi

[half plover]

I did august von parseval after anchorage, she helped me in opsi and general fleets

[solar canopy]

i have 2 lvl 120 wives who are not fully limitbroken and awakened due to financial issues. do you think it's better for me to choose Soyuz or Alsace?

[atomic abyss]

how many stars are they at?
how many UR bulins do you have?

[solar canopy]

3 for both. and i have 2 bullin

[atomic abyss]

then don't bother limit breaking either for now

either you fully limit break a UR - or none at all

when you do get 3 bulins - alsace first

[sweet merlin]

Why is there no data

[atomic abyss]

there is no data because no one has bothered to find out/upload

coin farming past 13-4 is honestly not worth tbh

you can't exactly level your ships much in w14

[solar canopy]

okay thanks

[sweet merlin]

I need to cdc

[half plover]

I can imagine 13-4 is already a nightmare to level fleets at

[atomic abyss]

it's much better to do cdc in 13 or 12

in w12 especially, cos there you can actually grind using lower level ships

[polar lion]

What is cdc?

[atomic abyss]

combat data collection

the exp collection portion of PR unlocking/building

[grizzled sundial]

12-3 boss got me good , need more CVs

[atomic abyss]

what are you using currently

[grizzled sundial]

For the boss ? 119 colorado 115 enty and 115 uni

[atomic abyss]

solo fleet?

[grizzled sundial]

No , i got an IB fleet for mob

[atomic abyss]

fulll BB/C backline?

[grizzled sundial]

2 BB 1 CV

[atomic abyss]

airspace control value too low probably

let's see both fleets

[grizzled sundial]

I think i may need to move uni to mob fleet , the other strong CV i have is graf zep but she need to sorties with IB :/

[atomic abyss]

uni is MEANT to be a mobber, not a bosser

so, can we see the fleets

[grizzled sundial]

Ugh need more Airspace control

[atomic abyss]

ok... so do you need help or not?

because otherwise it just seems you're complaining
you havent actually shown your fleet

[woeful sluice]

should I retrofit Unicorn when I have all the mats? main concern is oil cost

[atomic abyss]

retrofitting has no effect on oil cost so a non issue

she should be the highest prio for retro

[grizzled sundial]

ACV currently is 2172 / 2730 , picture still not load yet

[woeful sluice]

cheers!

[frank pulsar]

amagi cv coming when again
this thursday?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[woeful sluice]

who should I retro next?

[frank pulsar]

portland > nelson > laffey > sara >>> helena imho

[grizzled sundial]

There it finally finish uploading , like i said , ACV too low and the 12-3 boss got me good

[frank pulsar]

your boss fleet has no aa ofc itll sink

not to mention inconsistent levels

[finite crag]

Fleet with uni is the boss fleet i think

[finite crag]

.

[frank pulsar]

wtf

[grizzled sundial]

First try , so i thought the plane will deal with enemy plane . Now feel free to trash them , i currently working on another CV before attempting again

[frank pulsar]

try running fdg enty graf for boss, and drop thuringen entirely

even sara is better
besides, more cv will help with your acv and aa

[undone plover]

That FdG is probably not dev30
Do u have any levelled BB?

[frank pulsar]

eh if not dev30 then drop fdg as well for another cv

[grizzled sundial]

Eh BB or BC ? Another oone is Lutzow

That is the only 3 strong CV / CVL i have

The rest is either lv 30 or not MlB yet

[frank pulsar]

bb and bc is the basically same thing unless the game specifies a hull type
start working on leveling cv in 12-1

[undone plover]

Honestly post your dock in a thread
Will be much easier

[frank pulsar]

graf is not strong by any means btw
shes average, one could even argue shes bad for w12 since her aa is lacking

[grizzled sundial]

Indomitable gonna do it ?

[frank pulsar]

yea shes a great pick for w12 and w13
lusty class in general have good aa

[grizzled sundial]

From now on should i put 2 CV in each fleet ?

[sharp socket]

you can do that going forward yes

[atomic abyss]

All campaign content past w12 ideally want you to have at least 2 CV on each fleet

[grizzled sundial]

If it pure AA , CV beat CVL but CVL bring more utilities ?

[atomic abyss]

You shouldn't consider it like that

There are support CVs and DPS CVLs

[half plover]

how good is little cheshire compared to cheshire? for 13hard mob tank abilities lmao

[atomic abyss]

Not even remotely close to the original

Better than most budget options, admittedly

[hollow gust]

Find good ships , not caring about classes

[half plover]

I hoped I could cheese it but I think I have to develop chesh and level her

[half plover]

is friedrich carl budget tho?

lvl 125

[atomic abyss]

Carl is an actually good tank

Chesh is frailer

[half plover]

yeah I am lacking aa capabilities in mob fleet but maybe it will become better when I craft my first UR AA gun

[atomic abyss]

You absolutely don't need UR AA guns

Are you using full roombas or Roomba + sextuple on the frontline?

[half plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1282309602884587520/1282319217311350855/image.png?ex=66df9515&is=66de4395&hm=7a48286987f587bca22b1dcc274179710f9ecd092944dfc94844606f198889a2&

[hollow gust]

UR weapons and +13 equipment increases a consistency of a fleet . If your fleet is dogshit they will remain bad

[half plover]

mori and smoothie helped me build a 13h fleet yesterday

[hollow gust]

Then use it

[half plover]

but I was really lacking some gear and ships

[half plover]

yeah I can‘t improve it, but maybe an extra UR AA gun would help

[atomic abyss]

That boss fleet is definitely not clearing 13-4H

Might be able to get away with the others tho

[hollow gust]

An extra UR gun would do jack shit

[atomic abyss]

No, an extra UR AA wouldn't help
You simply do not have strong enough AA boats

[half plover]

oh I see

[hollow gust]

Those fleets should be perfectly fine for 13-4H

It's a Sandy

[half plover]

maybe I am just bad at manual but 13-1 kinda shreds my mob fleet

so my boss fleet had to to one extra mob fight and then die in boss lmao

[atomic abyss]

Sandy alone isn't enough for 13-4H goose
At least on lethal
Someone has to pick up the slack

[hollow gust]

Are those ships 120...

[half plover]

sandy 124

[atomic abyss]

Everything else?

[half plover]

a lot of ships are 125, kaza and anch are my lowest on 118

[atomic abyss]

Yeah that's certainly not helping matters

[hollow gust]

I used a 125 pre augment Sandy as my only aa carry for boss

[atomic abyss]

I'm sure you did
But what worked for you may not work for others
It certainly wasn't enough for me in 13-4H on lethal

[hollow gust]

Sandy is more then sufficient for aa , its other aspects he can improve on

[half plover]

oh I think I found a problem

I gave volga 2 purple steams because I dont have that many golden

rest got golden ones tho

[hollow gust]

Whats even dying in boss , your backline?

[atomic abyss]

His mob dies on 6th battle

Forcing him to bring the boss fleet in to clear the 6th
Then fight the boss

[inner delta]

actually he might be right, my aa carry was only sandy too

[atomic abyss]

This is 13-1H from what I see

[inner delta]

guam doesnt exist

[hollow gust]

When your mob frontline has little to no damage that's not a surprise . You need chaff clearing

[atomic abyss]

But yuki, what carriers did you use

[inner delta]

i dont remember, i used 2 cv 1 bb

[hollow gust]

Carl is a ironblood brick;Juneau and Kazegumo are support ships

[inner delta]

i can see me using enty and such

[hollow gust]

The CVs are probably overlapping too , space them out more. Or just use a BB

[atomic abyss]

Fwiw, Carl damage is actually good
Just that it's burst damage from her barrage, not consistent

[hollow gust]

[half plover]

yeah backline in boss dies fast

but other than that my mob backline dies too

[hollow gust]

You need to target the support ships of taihou , keeping them alive gives them time to chunk out your backline

[half plover]

I am considering to start developing cheshire if she would help a lot

but it would take a while

[atomic abyss]

I'd honestly put off 13H
125 the ships first, get the gear they recommended yesterday then come back

[half plover]

can that same fleet potentially kill 12h?

[atomic abyss]

12H is significantly easier

[half plover]

I skipped 12 completely so I might just use the same fleets to clear it

regearing ships is pain lmao

would every ship besides junesu be worth chips for 125?

or juneau too?

[hollow gust]

Cheshire won't help , additional AA doesn't change the fact you don't have consistent dps to clear those command ships and aa boats that continually spawn next to taihou

[half plover]

if I would craft that ur aa gun who would get it

[inner delta]

judt beacon 1 cv and majuu 1 cv should fix the timing spread

[half plover]

no matter the fact I am stuck on 13-1h rn I was about to craft it anyway

bc it is my next prio kinda

juneau?

[gusty olive]

I have 320 prototype core

I have 32 Plymouth prints to get 640

24 PR4 UR prints for 480

30 PR6 gold prints for 150

I currently have 24 blueprints for Prototype Quadruple 152mm Main Gun Mount.

With the things above, I can afford the remaining 26. Should I?

[hollow gust]

I would start swapping out ships like Kazegumo , run a bb instead of Saratoga . And stagger all the damage . Burst dps is 🚮 if you can't kill the next spawning wave on time

[hollow gust]

Tenrai ?

[gusty olive]

Literally said the gun there

I guess Prototype Quadruple 152mm Main Gun Mount is a Tenrai

[tame jungle]

do you have the tenrai already

[hollow gust]

Mines a question, do you have tenrai already

If you have tenrai then sure buy the ply prints.

[gusty olive]

Nope, and I don't have enough cores for Tenrai

[hollow gust]

Then save up for tenrai

A tenrai on a enterprise is far more useful then a plygun on what I assume is a non dev30 Plymouth

[gusty olive]

I have a dev 30 Plymouth

But I get your point ig

[tame jungle]

how many tenrais do you have?

[gusty olive]

zero lol

[hollow gust]

Why did you skip pr4

[sharp socket]

if your protocore print tenrai is 50/50 then buy tenrai

d30 ply but no tenrai

[hollow gust]

Ply is love and ply is god but no reason to get her maxed before pr4

[sly junco]

what are good purple equipment that can be crafted in gear lab?

[cobalt rapids]

u shouldnt go back to 4 now

[atomic abyss]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[atomic abyss]

@sly junco ^
Of note is probably only the twin 410 Kai and the tenzan Kai

Both of which are transition gear

The rest of the purples listed here are mostly precursors to gold gear

[hollow gust]

Gold diver really should be deleted , it's such a bait

[cobalt rapids]

like most gear below 3rd row

[whole crypt]

looks like Nagato is just going to be handled more or less by a standard antiheavy?

[tidal kelp]

Quick min-max question, what UR gear should i prioritize ie how many of each UR gear should i get before being in a comfortable position

[cobalt rapids]

we are on lv10

[cobalt rapids]

depends, theres no general number for all UR gears

but 2 tenrai, 1-2 plygun, 1 hindengun, 3 la-9, 2-3 wyverns, 1-2 mk7, 1-2 457, 1-2 100kais, 1-2 57mm would be good to have

and ofc all limited event ones

quad 152

[whole crypt]

so was I last night, will see what 12 is like tonight but mainly just that there's no special gimmicks you'd need to build around besides checking vanguard damage, didn't do squat with main fleet

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[whole crypt]

I actually let the fight run out on 6 and 8 nothing fancy

so it's just whether the fireworks start hurting the vanguard on higher tiers

[cobalt rapids]

1:17 - 1:13 - stopped movement
1:13 - 1:11 - non random movement ?
1:11 - 1:06 - stopped movement
1:06 - 1:00 - random movement
1:00 - 0:27 - stopped in the middle
0:27 - 0:00 - random movement
based on her move cv will need slow support for 3rd(4th) airstrike

[whole crypt]

maybe Soyuz/Nakhimov

also pending Amagi, whether she'll replace Hakuryuu for third slot

[cobalt rapids]

ill try that comp during rerun

magikubo definitely a possibility

[whole crypt]

if the fireworks don't maim vanguards too hard you might even make it with a standard IJN anti-heavy

[cobalt rapids]

im using ijn anti heavy variant

but need 15 to test

[whole crypt]

well T10 can still be one-rounded by Musashi/Bis/VG

[thorny bay]

for op siren, any reason to not use the exit button over the teleporter when you finish a hidden node?

[whole crypt]

nope

[cobalt rapids]

no its too much investment for a statstick

[tidal kelp]

If i already have the above, which UR gear should i prioritize getting more of ie Tenrai or Ply gun? Currently working on getting a few la-9s, what should i prioritize after that? I am kind of lazy so i don't feel like switching gears every now and then XD

[sharp socket]

you dont need her aug for statstick

[cobalt rapids]

la-9 for now

[whole crypt]

if you're really struggling witg trp reqs maybe but there are other half decent trp ships that are usually enough

[cobalt rapids]

dont have an ideal number for la-9 rn but u should have at least 3 before considering more plyguns after the first one

plygun will also hit gearlab in 1 year +

[tidal kelp]

Ah did't think of that one

[cobalt rapids]

so theres also that to consider

[tidal kelp]

or would Tenrai hit gearlab first considering its PR4

[cobalt rapids]

tenrai should be added in a few months

[whole crypt]

at least 3 La-9s sound good between the current anti-med picks

and probably heavy too

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[uncut flower]

Question only to those who have obtained the La-9 Fighter:

Is the aforementioned Fighter very powerful in overall?

[whole crypt]

it's really slow and TBs are still better for heavy if it's a flex slot

you don't need to have it to know what it does, best anti-heavy and med fighter but slow

throwing it onto Implacable didn't help much for this month unfortunately since it's 20s shield hermit

[lofty atlas]

Is it a good idea to use akashi to clear 14-3?

[plain saffron]

never\

[whole crypt]

it's an awful idea

[sharp socket]

is it better to have haku use fighter or torp bomber in first slot for cv fleet with shinano and avp

[uncut flower]

So that Fighter was one of the best for enemy ships with Heavy Armor? Sounds like an extremely good equipment indeed.

[whole crypt]

Akashi doesn't help anything for 14

[uncut flower]

Though I appreciate the info given here.

[whole crypt]

it's better than BFG for med as well

[lofty atlas]

kk i wont waste time trying

[tidal kelp]

I just run this for shinano and haku

[uncut flower]

Once again, I appreciate the info here. You have my thanks.

[whole crypt]

thing is will need more La-9s to see how the timing goes for more carriers, a single plane doesn't change much for now

maybe makes Kearsarge slightly more competitive for heavy

[forest palm]

Amagi might throw a wrench in things too

[whole crypt]

yep

[sharp socket]

are hinden/kear useful in w15 or any difficult content to be worth staying in pr6 for

[whole crypt]

well, another 50 days or so to go to test 2 La-9s

[sharp socket]

by difficult content is just harbiter and w15 actually

[whole crypt]

Kearsarge is probably okay for boss but intercept too weak for mob, Hindenburg has no AA so if you somehow stack enough AA and just use her to pad DPS

[atomic abyss]

Kears is generally quite questionable in campaign due to lack of secondaries

You could use her against bosses sure... Assuming you actually kept yk2 for boss

[forest palm]

my nagging problem with how shit PR6 is as a whole outside of Shimanto

[gusty olive]

My life when yk2 is unavailable:

miserable

[willow peak]

my ironblood vanguard exp farming feels so slowww am I doing something wrong?

12-4 spam
dorm buff
I use agir, leipzig, mainz

[whole crypt]

Laffey II also works for her skill but you'll need another good USS carrier

[atomic abyss]

Sounds right
What are you grinding for?

[sharp socket]

yeah im thinking i just get shimanto to fs5 and maybe felix, if not pr7 time

[gusty olive]

As of current, I'm using Shinano and Enty with Kearsarge lol

[atomic abyss]

@willow peak whatcha grinding for?

[willow peak]

felix schultz

[gusty olive]

Eldridge does the funni slow instead of using carriers

[atomic abyss]

Well there's nothing you're doing wrong

[whole crypt]

Laffey II AA debuff for Kearsarge but

[atomic abyss]

It is gonna be slower than backline cos no flagship bonus

[gusty olive]

I'm just hoping Amagi CV can match Haku fs5 lol

Full CV Sakura would be busted if she also has slows

[tidal kelp]

is your frontline getting mvp?

[willow peak]

yea agir gets it all the time

[whole crypt]

why bother

[reef flume]

Guys does anybody has the link for the fleet builder with ships like Alsace or Bismarck Zwei? Cuz the one I find online has ships til Implacable

[atomic abyss]

mvp manipulation isn't worth
if you're getting already nice, but it's not gonna help things too much

[willow peak]

I guess I just gotta play more but thank you anywaysssssss

[whole crypt]

you'll get there at the end of around 25-30k oil

[kind mason]

hey guys im a returnee and forgot but what do universal bulins do?