gameplay-help

[slim hinge]

Can anyone from Yostar confirm if Amagi CV can use skins of Amagi BC like type II ships? Or will it be like Kaga and Kaga BB scenario where they're totally different and can't share skins?

[atomic abyss]

wait till Monday

yostar EN staff wont be in till then

[fickle scarab]

I'm trying not to

[whole crypt]

what's wrong with Helena META

[frank pulsar]

use souryum then

[fickle scarab]

Ok thx

[fickle scarab]

Nothing I simply want to do a no-helena clear

[frank pulsar]

i thought you were refering to just normal helena

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't be surprised if even EN staff didn't know (for now)

[atomic abyss]

that would be the case most likely

[undone plover]

if u have the returnee missions u will get a lot of good rewards
unless u spent gems on bad stuff stick with the old account

[soft raft]

wouldnt be surprised if it's like a Kaga (BB) cae

[undone plover]

actually if u get anni rewards u will even get gems I think

[whole crypt]

I have a feeling Amagi CV will be able to use Amagi BC skins but you'll find out in like 5 days anyway

[plain saffron]

it will easy to do anyway if they want to

[sweet delta]

0 CV rld to get 23-24s, sourm should be I forgot but maybe around 22s, double oxytorps for Kazagumo (quad mag kai) and Unzen (quint mag)

[whole crypt]

to be fair they did specifically list the new skin as Amagi (CV) so it's possible that they're split, but again, you'll find out in about 5 days

[fickle scarab]

Why elderidge

[sweet delta]

Why not

[fickle scarab]

Is she there for slow or for the sake of it?

[lapis socket]

Nah I didn’t. But pity being 400 for ur is crazy lol

[plain saffron]

you also need to look the income rate

[sweet delta]

so you can put 4 oxytorps

[fickle scarab]

It's pretty ez to reach

[whole crypt]

to keep Kazagumo and Unzen alive maybe I don't remember what vanguard damage was like for QE

[plain saffron]

the pity is high but the income also high

[sweet delta]

actually why is kazagumo damage 🚮

[fickle scarab]

Oh well I'll try

[whole crypt]

pity is 200 builds, 400 cubes

unless you mean perm pity, in which case it's just any builds as long as it adds to 400 cubes

[lapis socket]

Where is the ships to buy with guild coins?

[whole crypt]

guild shop is not in guild screen

[plain saffron]

main UI > shop > munition(?) > guild

[undone plover]

statistically u are more likely to NOT hit pity and if u get the returnee missions that is more cubes than if u just started

[plain saffron]

idk why they didn't add redirect to guild shop in public guild

[sweet delta]

Maybe Eldridge was not needed

[soft raft]

Shop -> Supply -> Guild

[sweet delta]

so like change the second oxytorp for defense for safety, and put jintsuu meta or somethign instead of eldridge

[lapis socket]

Found it thanks. There’s no other elite ships I get besides the healer one?

[whole crypt]

Helena

[lapis socket]

I’ll need the luck I’m usually unlucky lol

[soft raft]

Unicorn and Helena
(You can refresh the guild shop once per cycle so you can get them both pretty quick)

And if you havent already, give this a read too
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[undone plover]

get uni + portland (from the rares) THEN refresh and get helena + pennsylvania

[sweet delta]

check the other items before refreshing

there may be gold Carrier retrofit blueprints

[elfin hollow]

how much exp overhead exp is required to go from 100 > 120 without limit breaking?

[sweet delta]

2115000 for non-native-rainbows

[left tiger]

Is there a priority for these?

[whole crypt]

coords, scroll down

[left tiger]

After coords?

[lapis socket]

I had unicorn so I didn’t have to buy her

[whole crypt]

if you have spare vouchers can consider classified loggers for more materials

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#voucher

[left tiger]

Alright ty

[undone plover]

btw even if u dont have to join a guild you should since u get more coins

[elfin hollow]

2,115,000 gotcha.

and for rainbows? (rainbows are URs right?)

[sweet delta]

buy these

main gun for top, and eagle union for bottom

[elfin hollow]

man. i forget im broke on guild points.

[sweet delta]

and join a guild fr

[cobalt rapids]

2538000

[undone plover]

20% more so 2,538,000

[elfin hollow]

great. thanks. helps a ton.

[stone sluice]

If someone can’t beat the boss from the classified logger during a monthly season, can it be repurchased onto the next season or it just gets wasted?

[eternal basalt]

You cant buy a boss?

[cobalt rapids]

shouldnt be consumed

[sweet delta]

this answer is very helpful to me as i accidentally bought one today

[eternal basalt]

Just finish it

[wary timber]

oh yea. Tashkent has an augment now. does it push her up the tierlist or nah

[atomic abyss]

almost certainly up to T0

she cannot compare to the DDGs in terms of DPS tho

[wary timber]

interesting

[crimson glacier]

yes

[keen comet]

One question here: is Tenrai good against the Bosses at the End of each Stage?

[cobalt rapids]

best dive bomber all around only topped by skyraider for single target med and light

[elfin hollow]

Is that about the same for 120 to 125?

[sweet delta]

1310000

[elfin hollow]

Could you do "," please? My dyslexia is giving me a rough time figuring that out.

[tame jungle]

1.310.000

[undone plover]

U can just use this https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/experience/

[elfin hollow]

Great, thank you.

[elfin hollow]

Dang. That's awesome. Wish I done known about this earlier.

Okay so it looks like I've got enough exp to take a couple of ships to 125 but not enough arrays for it. Good to know.

[undone plover]

Arrays are very rare
Dont 125 everyone

Honestly dont 125 until u actually need to
Like for ch15, 13h and hard arbiter

[wild hemlock]

who should I use for tactical training aviation 100 for S rank?
tried a few combos of ships and I dont even get close
helena is in vanguard for her radar scan

[sweet delta]

sara enterprise lexington

may be a gear issue if it's not even close

[hollow gust]

Pretty sure Enty solos it

[teal sigil]

What’s the schedule for rerunning urs? I need everyone after Yorktown ii

[undone plover]

Musashi > YKII > Implacable > BZ > Unzen > Guam (+laffii) > Soyuz > Alsace (+Mogador)
no date on any of these

[eternal basalt]

Expect 2-2.5. Years

[novel solstice]

They don't publish schedules very far in advance,so we don't know the details, but 2 years after the first run is a rough estimate. Could be even longer than that.

[eternal basalt]

Mogdor with Alsace

[undone plover]

~~I forgot about her ~~

[forest palm]

they're French so I think that's ok

[left cedar]

i'm the opposite of that, but ok
w8, i ENed, i agree with forgotting them

[sweet delta]

does Iori minase barrage require flag, or is it aimed at an enemy?

[cobalt rapids]

looks aimed

[sweet delta]

how did you look?

[cobalt rapids]

cn gif

[sweet delta]

i looked that too

guess it's ⛏️ time

looks aimed that was way faster to find than i expected

[cobalt rapids]

teach me

[viscid swift]

it is definitely aimed source, me looking at her barrage in CM

[gaunt dagger]

how do i get rid of cats in cattery?

[undone plover]

feed em to other cats

[sweet delta]

cheeky owns Iori

[gaunt dagger]

how tho i dont see the option

[sweet delta]

enhance

[elfin hollow]

Hard mode is the one that gives you data right?

The thing you can use to buy certain stuff in shops

[stark quiver]

core data yes

[elfin hollow]

core data, that's it. For some reason I thought it was combat data. that didn't sound right.

[ember swan]

chatters is there any resources to see upcoming events?

[stark quiver]

#game-news
#jp-7th-anniversary-livestream-discussion

fyi theres no roadmap

[ember swan]

i see thats what i wanted to ask

i was assuming that theres like cn or jp servers that are ahead in patches

[keen sable]

manual it and hexatap the boss.

[vale spindle]

na all 3 servers (cn jp global) are at parity

ex. recently we had jp event annoucements, and en posted them soon after

[rich valve]

how are the fate sims and new augs?

[ember swan]

unlucky

[woeful sluice]

what are the drop rates for elites on divergent chessboard? I've run it like over 20 times and only gotten 1 elite (Z1).

[novel solstice]

Drop rates are not published (except for the foxes in 3-4). So just run it until you get who you want.

[woeful sluice]

fair enough

[forest palm]

far as I remember only Shimanto benefited from PR6 Fate Sim wave the most, and so far Tashkent, and Ibuki augments look the most promising

[little tree]

Would I be able to farm all the coins needed for 100 pulls during the event ?

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[little tree]

Thank you

[rare shoal]

what is priority for gold main gun plates? I already have 3 +13 champy, and NJ gun but im wondering when to prioritize vanguard guns

[rain vine]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[haughty dust]

so I just unlocked Harbin, but I’m gonna work on the following character while I wait to have enough characters at a decent spot to work on Chkalov. So need some advice on what characters to put in Vanguard and what to put in Main.

Of the characters I have in the Vanguard slot. I’m not sure which ones to work on in the interim.

[quartz jungle]

Wait why is Plygun below the French CL gun?

[eager mulch]

360 vs 120 gold plates

[haughty dust]

I can show what my characters for my Vanguard slot are if need be, but that might have to be a new thread since that’s a lot not counting the level 120 or level 125 characters.

[eager mulch]

it’s almost like it says Cheaper to plus 13 than UR equipment in bold

[haughty dust]

I’m also not sure which iron blood to put in Main for XP grinding.

[cobalt rapids]

u can ignore the french cl gun and save for plygun instead

[eager mulch]

im gonna umi your neko

[shell willow]

would archerfish, albacore and leonardo da vinci be an upgrade over u81, u96 and u37?

[forest palm]

not really

[frank quartz]

What to do with SSR dupes?

[white agate]

limit break

[forest palm]

use them to Limit Break the corresponding SSR, or just burn them, there's no point in raising another copy

[frank quartz]

Also is it worth using diamonds to recharge oil?

I guess not

[slow fox]

no

[dusky cave]

I swear there was an option somewhere in Settings to lower the frequency or disable the splash animation of Main Fleet abilities, or did I imagine that?

[viscid swift]

you imagined it

[wild hemlock]

that did it, auto wasnt happening

[buoyant kernel]

If I use up all my coin discounts for a DR at a day would my PR coin discounts still be there?

[viscid swift]

PR and DR discounts are seperate

[buoyant kernel]

Thanks

[elfin hollow]

Are obscured zones the hidden zones in opsi? I saw a guide saying "obscured zones" and just wondering what they are.

[forest palm]

yellow chests are hidden, red chests are abyssal, red swirls are strongholds

[undone plover]

obscured = hidden yes

[elfin hollow]

Great. That helps a lot thanks.

[forest palm]

there is a info graph for ops stuff

[keen sable]

yeah it's not not even really true manual like EX. you just don't want your airstrikes wasted on the scrubs.

[errant wing]

hey does jp anniv have top up bonus for gems reset? and does it affect global too?

[keen sable]

reset and no

[remote yarrow]

Yes, but only for JP server

[errant wing]

oh okok ty guys

[remote yarrow]

Anything gem and reward related is only for JP

[errant wing]

but skins and charas come out right?

[remote yarrow]

Yes that's shared between all servers

[errant wing]

ty!!

[elfin hollow]

I know Akashi is a troll ship but jokes aside- is she at least decent or a joke ship for a reason?

[novel solstice]

She has a heal that is pathetic compared to actual healers. And she does no damage, unlike ships like unicorn (which aren't as damagish as your real damage dealers, but are at least contributing). So she's a joke.

There used to be a small niche of AA platform, but there are better builds for that, too.

[light trail]

worth to craft? i have 2 quad golds already, no rainbow quints yet

[sweet delta]

she can potentially double your whole fleet's damage in the sixth battle

[elfin hollow]

sandy numbah wan

[sweet delta]

they don't cost important materials so it's ok

[light trail]

sick

[viscid swift]

When this is unironically the best way to fit out a repair ship

[light trail]

any limit for how many would be reasonable to have? is 4 too many

[elfin hollow]

Akashi can? I'm confused

[viscid swift]

repair ships give the fleet one more ammo

and fighting without ammo reduces your fleet's damage dealt by 50%

[remote yarrow]

Who pinged

[elfin hollow]

Ah. I see. I get it now.

Yeah that is a joke. One more ammo is practically useless.

[novel solstice]

Fighting with a repair ship reduces your fleet's damage by 20% in the first five battles because you're missing a real damage dealer, which hurts a lot.

[viscid swift]

one more ammo isn't useless, especially in later campiagn stages

the issue is that and AA are pretty much all repair ships bring to the table

[elfin hollow]

Isn't there like a 4 fleet world or something? Or am I confusing that with another game. Surely that'd be handy for that, no?

[viscid swift]

their surface damage is non existent, literally in the case of Akashi and Vestal, they're not that tanky, and they can't help defend against suicide boats

and they don't boost ACV unlike a CV

[viscid swift]

for the main campaign, you're restricted to 2 main fleets
in OpSi you can deploy up to 4 surface fleets but Ammo isn't a mechanic in OpSi

[elfin hollow]

Pointless for opsi cause you don't ha- yeah

[viscid swift]

the extra ammo campaign isn't useless, quite the contrary, it's just that repair ships are so shit for the overall fleet that it's not worth bringing them even for that

[light trail]

w/r to gold quad torps

[elfin hollow]

Hrm.. I see

[viscid swift]

Depends how lazy you wanna be with swapping year

6 would be a good minimum though

[elfin hollow]

Maybe a retrofit or a complete redesign of repair ships in the future. That'd be nice. Well, if it was something they'd do, it'll be in 10 years minimum lmao.

[light trail]

this is great to know (im very lazy)

[elfin hollow]

sobs in doesn't even have one

[signal pollen]

Should I craft any research gear for my triple bb team?

[hollow gust]

~~I got 50 of them ~~

[signal pollen]

(Ignoring vanguard aux)

[remote yarrow]

STAAGs

For both Vanguard and NJ

[signal pollen]

The thing with AA bofors in the name?

[remote yarrow]

The one AA that your Zwei has

[signal pollen]

Ok. Will do.

[viscid swift]

"Bofors" really donesn't narrow things down
Bofors is the name of a Swedish company that is most famous for their 40mm AA gun

[light trail]

i now have 8 quad torps (turns out i had 3)

[signal pollen]

Oh. That’s pretty cool info. Also thanks for helping smoothie

[elfin hollow]

What are some good ships to go up against meta ships? I'm finally deciding to do the dossier metas.

[viscid swift]

which one

[full crow]

is the soulful warrior talent 2 points?

[elfin hollow]

Well they're in order, right? Whatever the first one is.

Helena I think.

[eternal basalt]

It can, and it cannot

[viscid swift]

preferably Zwei with 2 other UR BBs

[ornate narwhal]

when does Amagi UR release?

[full crow]

aite follow-up question then, I got a Lime with 2 lvl 1 talents and soulful warrior as start. Guess that can happen?

[eternal basalt]

12th

[viscid swift]

but if memory serves you don't have Zwei

[elfin hollow]

I probably don't have any UR BBs either

[sweet delta]

Hiryuu was the first showdown

[elfin hollow]

Hiryuu? Hm. One sec. Lemme check. You're probably right.

[rough vale]

Anyone remember which one was for Alsace vs which was for Mogador?

[crisp current]

so i stopped playing before soyuz, how much has the meta changed?

[remote yarrow]

both were for Mogador lol

Well, not "for" but Alsace can't use any of them

[elfin hollow]

It looks like I did a bit of Helena previously so we'll stick with her for now but I'll probably do QE next.

[late flame]

just switch out once you hit 25k

[eager mulch]

Alsace can take 138.6

[elfin hollow]

the rest of the stuff not worth grabbing?

[late flame]

i wouldnt say not worth, but not high prio if your aim is to get the ship

[elfin hollow]

fair enough.

[sweet delta]

i would recommend leaving QE for later, after you have some relevant meta ships at 120+ already

[remote yarrow]

Oh true but it's a "waste" using it as a secondary instead of a Main Gun

[eager mulch]

what if you don’t have anyone who can take a dd gun

[late flame]

me trying to get 3 plyguns for bb secondaries

[elfin hollow]

normal QE is my favourite ship. i have to grab meta. it's only right.

[remote yarrow]

Then you are screwed

[keen sable]

tell that to mitchy qem slayers

[eager mulch]

Nah, I’d win

[viscid swift]

okay, just be aware that you need a meta ship to kill her knights that spawn part way into the fight, if you don't then you don't deal any damage to her for the rest of the fight

[keen sable]

dw just essex her

[elfin hollow]

good to know. ive got a few meta ships. not many. someone said to level up bearn meta to 120 so ill be doing that anyways. helena meta when i grab her too.

[sweet delta]

kirov meta is good

[inland shoal]

Also good tech

[sweet delta]

also good bear

[viscid swift]

a 0 LB Kirov META less so though

[sweet delta]

maybe the depot has 4 crystals

[inland shoal]

Maybe they're just lazy and didn't LB

[elfin hollow]

doesnt look like it. i remember grinding the event really hard cause kirov one of my fav ships but then i think i procrastinated or something.

[sweet delta]

understandable

[keen sable]

forgot to click collect maybe

[elfin hollow]

or maybe i wasnt high enough level to booly her.

[elfin hollow]

high possibility.

[remote yarrow]

It's in their name tho

[viscid swift]

imagine prioritizing BC EVA tech over CV hit

[inland shoal]

She was OpSi, so not rly an event. But I also struggle with keeping interest long enough for those so yeah

#trophy-room

[elfin hollow]

ahhhh that's right. i beat the whole story of opsi in like 2 days just so i could try and grab her. now i remember.

she killed my opsi procrastination

[late flame]

ngl levelling is a chore even at 13-4

[elfin hollow]

speaking of- do we know when kirov meta is coming to showdown?

its been like a year or something right?

[late flame]

its gonna be awhile still

[elfin hollow]

what like another year left?

isnt that usually how it goes?

[viscid swift]

the schedule was tenatively 1 old META get's added everytime a new one is released

[inland shoal]

With ecents sth like that with Metas I think it's more regilar than events, but I still have less of an idea lol

[viscid swift]

then they skipped QE META when Wichita META released and only waited until now to add her

at minimum you'll still be waiting around 9 months or so since they still have to add Algerie and Jintsuu to the dossiers first

[elfin hollow]

eh thats fine. i was expecting another 12 months anyway. if you think about it, im winning here.

anyways

back to the original question-

best ships to jump helena meta?

and ig QE as well since i will most likely go after her next

[sweet delta]

[viscid swift]

what did you have again?

[elfin hollow]

uhhh

can i @ you in a thread?

might be easier for you to peep my ships there

as apposed to making another one

[viscid swift]

sure

[elfin hollow]

gotcha

[opaque gate]

dorm second floor worth it?

[viscid swift]

if you play any decent amount yes

[opaque gate]

why is it worth it? it says it doesnt increase slot

[viscid swift]

the in-game description is a lie basically

[south sequoia]

You will have the same slots as your first floor, but the benefits of increase morale gain increases the time you grind

[stark quiver]

it does
its a mirror of first floor

[opaque gate]

oh, zamn why do AL lies lol

[keen sable]

because it doesn't. you get the same number of slots you already have.

[remote yarrow]

Ask the Devs/Translators

[opaque gate]

i mean, ok technically they r right lol

[keen sable]

the best kind of right

[opaque gate]

but it says "for decoration only"

[sinful elk]

Chat can Halford be a good dps

[opaque gate]

just bought it, it actually did tf

[remote yarrow]

Which isn't correct, since it doubles/copies the amount you got on the first floor, without the passive exp but higher morale recovery

[opaque gate]

is it good to put in the dorm whichever ship u r usjng?

[south sequoia]

It's not technically a lie, but it also doesn't take away from the fact the description doesn't paint the whole picture

[opaque gate]

for the morale thingy?

[keen sable]

morale > passive xp

[brittle summit]

I started about two days ago and I am very confused about a lot of things, and guides on yt aren’t really helping. If any kind soul could give me some bullet points or things to focus on that would be very very helpful

[viscid swift]

might wanna give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[brittle summit]

Ty very much

[keen sable]

start with accomplishing all the daily missions? what's confusing?

[opaque gate]

are submarines actuallychelpful?

cuz minato aqua is my only semi built one

[signal kraken]

Is there a guide to getting the three TB endings for secretary unlocks?

[sharp socket]

is amagi CV going to include special build pool

[viscid swift]

most likely

[keen sable]

try pins in here
https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488

[stark quiver]

whats the threat differnece between safe and low

[dusk maple]

click on threat level indicator to check

[stark quiver]

should i save my ply prints for her fs5 or convert for drake gun/another plygun

[vital phoenix]

Is this better or worse than barracuda?

[vague fable]

how much ahead is JP compared to global

[viscid swift]

0

[vague fable]

thank god

[remote yarrow]

they are "ahead" but like a couple hours iirc but nothing to worry about

[silk helm]

how do i complete this agir mission

[cloud fractal]

I’m enjoying the designs on the new ijn ships. Guess we will see how they stack up.

[stark quiver]

might be desync, try to restart the gmae

[cloud fractal]

Good lord. Old eyes. Wrong dang chat. Sorry

[placid wadi]

Question: as a returning player, I missed out a lot stuff, especially UR Ships, is there any way to get em or I have to wait em to re run again?

[dusk maple]

wait for rerun/archive

[placid wadi]

Like new jersey

She’s not available anymore?

[dusk maple]

she's in permanent pool

[remote yarrow]

She's on permanent but don't pull for her

[placid wadi]

Ohhhh imma come back and pull for her then

[remote yarrow]

She's also low priority for UR Bulins so if you get her it's mainly for collection

[cloud fractal]

She has a pity exchange. Just play naturally and you’ll get her.

[remote yarrow]

I just said don't pull in permanent

[placid wadi]

Wait wut? I remember she’s like the most op unit back in the days

[remote yarrow]

Well yeah back in the day, she's still an UR and really good, but compared to other UR BBs she's powercrept and low priority

[cloud fractal]

She’s still good. But new stuff inevitably means power creep in the long run.

[placid wadi]

Aww man, that’s a shame, plus the new unit is not available in the permanent no?

Give some sample of new units that power crept her

And that’s available in perm pool

[remote yarrow]

None, don't pull in permanent

[dusk maple]

we get a new UR every 3 month or so, just save for them

[silk sphinx]

She’s not heavily powercrept though, still very powerful

[placid wadi]

Well I’m desperate for New Jersey so pull it is

[remote yarrow]

But she's powercrept by Alsace,Soyuz,Zwei,Musashi and Vanguard in terms of utility

[silk sphinx]

The fact that she’s perma pool makes her a bad target

[placid wadi]

Are they in the perm pool?

[remote yarrow]

Well have fun not getting Amagi

[placid wadi]

I have priorities

[remote yarrow]

and your priorities are not great

[dusk maple]

no way you're desperate, there are plenty of gold BBs that can easily carry you to late game

[placid wadi]

And I have my own taste

[vague fable]

I recommend Hood

[silk sphinx]

If you like her go for nj she’s still great. Just not advisable for long term and meta efficiency

[remote yarrow]

Well we are trying to help you

[viscid swift]

we literally have Amagi 2 dropping next week

[silk helm]

some ppl don't wanna be helped

[silk sphinx]

We here advocate for what we consider optimal resource usage

Ultimately it’s a waifu game. Go for those you like

After you’re aware of the advice of course

[placid wadi]

I understand you trying to help, but I had New Jersey in mind, but is amagi really that op?

[vague fable]

you will get New Jersey EVENTUALLY so

[remote yarrow]

New stuff is OP and most likely better than NJ

[placid wadi]

My mind is still old school currently

[viscid swift]

we have no idea but you can NJ for free basically just by pulling normally

[ivory linden]

We dont know yet but probably she will be

[silk sphinx]

We don’t know, just that reruns take a long while, whereas nj is obtainable pretty easily now

[viscid swift]

all builds except for those on UR events count towards a pity and after you spend 400 cubes you can select one of the URs in the perma pools no strings attatched

[silk sphinx]

You could wait and in a couple months at most probably you can guarantee obtaining nj, whereas if you miss amagi it might take more than two years for another chance

[placid wadi]

Basically you spent building on amagi doesn’t count towards the pity for NJ?

[cloud fractal]

Are you a whale? Like a true whale? If so, have at it. Not advisable, but go for it. Otherwise the new stuff is usually geared to handle current content, so you should save.

[silk sphinx]

Meh there’s not that much of a difficulty creep

Nj is also still a ur bb… just not among the best anymore

[placid wadi]

I’m no whale but I wanna catch up, and my first thought was New Jersey

[viscid swift]

NJ will not help you catch up

[zenith heron]

"Back in the days"

Sadly UR BB's in the game get Powercreeped every few months, so if you want to get her now, its up to you. We just base it on future uses where NJ is just on a Mob Fleet anymore, plus I know that you don't have other UR BB's (Except Warspite, we don't talk about her )

Better choices for the future / What you want to get for now.

Its up to you...

[silk sphinx]

I’d personally suggest you wait, for multiple reasons, but if you really like her we can stop chastising you

[remote yarrow]

We have nothing against you going for NJ but since UR Bulins are so timed gated and non MLB units are useless, it's better for you to spend them wisely rather than using them on her who you can eventually MLB with copies from UR pity

[silk sphinx]

Eh? There’s not been much ur power creeping

[cloud fractal]

I’m a whale and I still didn’t pull for her like that. Certain event pools count towards the UR exchange. Just not the ones where there’s aUR dropping I believe.

[zenith heron]

Alsace and Soyuz might say it better

[silk sphinx]

Like rn there’s basically a top 5 UR bbs, and all the other event URs aren’t rly ranked with respect to each other

[cloud fractal]

It didn’t take that long for me to get her by sticking to event pulls that counted.

[silk sphinx]

Only uvh and nj are considered generally inferior to substitutes

[remote yarrow]

And they came like 2 or 3 years after New Jersey instead of "UR BB's in the game get Powercreeped every few months"

[zenith heron]

But a good use if you don't have the latter...

[silk sphinx]

Anyhow, I wouldn’t say Alsace or Soyuz are better than say Bismarck or musashi

Vanguard also, though I’m more flexible on that

[remote yarrow]

Well we really can't compare any other BB to Vanguard since her main strenght is buffing

[cloud fractal]

Would we compare Alsace to NJ anyway? I feel like she just performs too differently.

[zenith heron]

If I could recall Soyuz is an Alternative to Vanguard, but I don't think that's the case... All I see is CV buffs and her Self Buff when paired with other BB's

[remote yarrow]

How so? Both of their selling points is doing damage

[placid wadi]

If that’s the case guess I’ll wait for amagi and nj gotta wait, tho I am curious let say another ur add into the perm, would the pity carry over at perm?

[silk sphinx]

Anyhow, if someone doesn’t want your advice here then I’d suggest just moving on instead

[eager mulch]

one is French so they’re worse + not amagi chan so both bad

[vague fable]

I dont think its gonna get added lmao

not for another year(s) at least

[viscid swift]

smh forgetting French Bias

[silk sphinx]

Nice to see you’ve changed your opinion though

[placid wadi]

Yeah I just need some strong convincing and time to thought

[remote yarrow]

We cured his tunnel vision

[placid wadi]

My mind is still stuck at the past haha

[silk sphinx]

It’s a waifu game don’t be too judgy

[eager mulch]

French saturation has saved me a great deal of times but the amount of azumas and yoshinos in those ops is absurd

[zenith heron]

We've been there, its time for them to enlighten you...

[placid wadi]

Though I do wonder, can they randomly spook you in the ur event? Like when you’re building for amagi and then suddenly surprise other ur

[eager mulch]

also 49k hp elbings in those ops man

[viscid swift]

no, perma URs are not in event pools

[vague fable]

if only

[silk sphinx]

URs are always total of 1.2%, and banner URs take it whole

Meaning you have zero risk of off banner UR

[vague fable]

I pulled two darn UvH I wish it could've another UR

[placid wadi]

I see I see, glad I learn something new, thanks for the enlightenment

[zenith heron]

Its gonna make it too much easy to capitalize yet too frustrating if you won't get the guaranteed UR, so that is why there is a UR pity choice every hundreds of pulls (Whether Normal or Event pulls)

[silk sphinx]

*as long as the event is not a UR banner one, perma pool UR pity will accumulate

[sharp socket]

is the secretary mission on all URs

[silk sphinx]

Check in memories to see which ships have secretary events

[sharp socket]

ty, gotta hunt for DD retro mats

[teal sigil]

Should I develop Hakuryuu after I get anchorage and already have Agir? Or should I move to pr5

[vague fable]

Why are the russian ships so hot?

Why are they all my weakness : White haired??????

[keen sable]

haku may be obsolete soon

why aren't you in #off-topic

[copper ermine]

if i need a bb flagship for a mobbing fleet is maryland a good investment considering shes getting a retrofit?

[eager mulch]

we don’t know

[silk helm]

nelson is good too

[copper ermine]

i have nelson i just dont have any other good bb

[silk helm]

hood?

[keen sable]

indiana is a bb...

[copper ermine]

neither

[leaden osprey]

Anime phenotype stereotypes

[sharp socket]

you can be offtopic in #al-general but not here

[full musk]

Should I replace kasumi meta or houshou for somebody in my current fleet (top 6)?

[eager mulch]

no

[full musk]

Alr, I’m still gonna stockpile for Thursday banner

[teal sigil]

Will Amagi ii event give a free ur bulin?

[frosty dune]

should be likely if it follows the pattern of previous ur events

30k event points iirc

[remote yarrow]

You probably should replace Pennsylvania (Guild Shop) for Repulse

And Saratoga for Long Island if you manage to get her

[stark quiver]

like all UR events yes, unless devs do something funny

[keen sable]

how the heck did you get a houshou do you mean shouhou?

[full musk]

Shouhou 😭 my bad

[remote yarrow]

And in any case nope, Shouhou is way worse Healer than Unicorn, no reason to use her

[rain bobcat]

isnt houshou 15-3 drop ship

[keen sable]

7-4

[rain bobcat]

oh 7-3 too

[remote yarrow]

No, she's 7-4 not 7-3

[keen sable]

strange, game says i didn't get houshou from 7-4 or 7-4H but i clearly have her

[remote yarrow]

Maybe you got her from 15-3?

[keen sable]

no i have 100% collection for long time

[remote yarrow]

weird

[teal sigil]

For pr5 I should go for Plymouth > Harbin > Chkalov?

[frosty dune]

was she ever in the special build pool at any point?

[forest palm]

whom?

[keen sable]

i guess game lost my drop data. I feel bad for that skk that is still on 2-4 trying to get every drop when the game loses theirs too

[remote yarrow]

Houshou

[forest palm]

as far as I remember she was drop only

[keen sable]

order generally doesn't matter

[eager mulch]

just grind houshou from 15-3 like me

[stark quiver]

what a lovely idea

[eager mulch]

it’s not bad

cleared on lethal with 2/3 support cvs and a gunless kear

[woeful laurel]

what kind of comp does W14 need?

[eager mulch]

antisub and 155kai bb aux guns

staggered damage

[teal sigil]

Can I go Harbin first then? I really like her design

[keen sable]

sure

[elfin hollow]

can percy be substituted for uni for the 12-4 grind for lower level ships and it be okay?

[torpid crystal]

when did pr6 get fate sim?

[plain saffron]

likely yes because people lvl up ships there without a healer

[remote yarrow]

Like 2 or 3 weeks ago iirc

[torpid crystal]

ic

[copper pine]

what does napoli and nakhimov do compared their hull competitors

[stark quiver]

i dont think anyone d30'ed napoli yet

[plain saffron]

EN anni

[frosty dune]

there will always be that one person

[zenith heron]

We just guessed that Napoli is a Pseudo Anchorage but needed more testing since no d30

[copper pine]

pseudo anchorage

that's an interesting first assessment, as in she will be the UR version of anchorage ish?

[stark quiver]

give it some time

[forest palm]

paper wise she's looking to be a top tank with average damage

[viscid swift]

she's among the tankiest vanguard in the game

[zenith heron]

Yes, but just vague not straight up

[copper pine]

interesting

so far im like... dev15 now, just wondering what she will be when fully optimized

[quartz jungle]

#media-content message

[stark quiver]

napoli =/= nahkimov

[zenith heron]

Thnks for the Nakhi, but Napoli

[quartz jungle]

Oh oops my bad

[south sequoia]

Woah, shes dishing out massive amounts

[keen owl]

Is the Purple BB Gun still the better gun for Musashi?

[whole crypt]

Depends™️

[vivid dune]

Can I only get one beaver squad tag throughout my entire playthrough?

[whole crypt]

yes

[late flame]

yes only1

[vivid dune]

Goddammit

So I have to pick and choose who gets it? Currently I have it on kron, but I also have agir in my fleet who uses it

[wind hazel]

there are other eva aux you can use

[dusk maple]

Is Indiana's barrage always fired from flagship? I feel like I'm seeing it wrong, just wanted to double check.

[wet prairie]

Do we know the next events UR gear? 7th anniversary channel doesn’t show

[vale spindle]

yes

[whole crypt]

looks like none, wait for patch notes

[wet prairie]

[woeful laurel]

which one is the 155 kai?

[vale spindle]

/wiki triple 155mm kai

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

[vale spindle]

/wiki triple 155mm (3rd year type) kai

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_155mm_(3rd_Year_Type)_Kai

[woeful laurel]

thank you

[elfin hollow]

which is that one gun that shoots 4 times?

is it any good?

[soft raft]

Are we expecting any more game related news later or nah

[vale spindle]

not really

[soft raft]

Ight

[lime lichen]

whats the research angle after fdg & anchorage?

[late flame]

finish pr4 - try to get a second tenrai
then pr5 - ply, harbin and probably at least 1 plygun

[lime lichen]

should i just go with who i have most prints? (AvP)

[late flame]

sure

[haughty dust]

I just got a golden rudder today, even though it’s not maxed out yet would this be better than the blue rudder that I had on Sirius?

[inner delta]

yes

[haughty dust]

Thanks

[pliant smelt]

is there a place of reference where I can find a guide on opsi bossing fleet comps?

[thorn tartan]

what planes are good against subs?

[inner delta]

reference is
1 cv fleet
1 bb fleet
1 mob
put any fleet here

[inner delta]

guam limited one

[thorn tartan]

okay ty

[opaque hill]

Which one should I build

[pliant smelt]

Think I have mobbing fleet sorted - regarding cv fleet, If I don't have yorktown 2/implacable what should comp look like

[turbid latch]

do I have to kill all those cat girls to achieve the mission "defeat all enemies"

and are they an escort fleet?

[pliant smelt]

ye for 3 stars you need to kill all of them

[copper ermine]

is there a guide for scraping gear as to not get rid of anything important?

[inner delta]

york2 is for light
you can just do haku/nano/enty/etc etc
for slow you can do avp

[remote yarrow]

Yes, until this icon becomes Blue and says 0

[pliant smelt]

o got it ty

also no karge without yk2 right

[inner delta]

uh yea it's not worth

just change your standard cv with bf109 rocket instead

[hollow gust]

Karge?

[pliant smelt]

kearsarge or however you spell it xd

[hollow gust]

You can always run kearsarge with enterprise , and something like Laffey 2 for the skill

[crisp raven]

do /equip in #bot-spam it has a safe to scrap guide.

[turbid latch]

do they regain health by themselves (im cooked)

[fiery pelican]

Who should be the next UR to focus on?

[pliant smelt]

no unfortunately

[fiery pelican]

I really don't know when I should use those BBs... I already have a fleet on Opsi Soyuz, NJ, Zwei. Dunno where to use Alsace

[keen sable]

don't try to kill everything

[strong tartan]

Save for now cuz Amagi cv is in under a week

[turbid latch]

I need to complete the mission to kill all enemies

[pliant smelt]

they trying to 3 star

[keen sable]

get it to safe first

[fiery pelican]

Amagi? New UR?

[strong tartan]

Yes

[remote yarrow]

Amagi CV

[fiery pelican]

Okay, atleast she's not a BB

[remote yarrow]

Check https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1281613568881459231 pinned messages

[fiery pelican]

In term of power, who is stronger in my BB ships?

[stark quiver]

bismarck zwei

[remote yarrow]

I would say Zwei > Alsace=Soyuz > Vanguard (if MLB) > NJ > FdG

[fiery pelican]

Okay... Maybe I should use Alsace instead of NJ on fleet 1

These are my fleets rn, fleet 4 to farm exp for research ship. Should I use NJ instead of FDG for mobbing fleet (3)?

[stark quiver]

no

[fiery pelican]

Using Alsace instead of NJ good choice for fleet 1?

[keen sable]

Probably better but also probably won't make much of a difference. And that fleet 4 is just useless. Does it even last 2 fights?

[rain bobcat]

any more skin or rerun announcements today?

[sweet delta]

#jp-7th-anniversary-livestream-discussion or #al-general

[remote yarrow]

Yes, also Swap Guam and Agir around, put Helena in the middle of her and Unzen, add Sirius to the second one instead of Emden and level her and if you have Kazagumo she's also good for that fleet

[keen sable]

That Emden is trash

[turbid latch]

is there a guide for maximazing diamond usage for f2ps
i have 4 dorm space rn

[fiery pelican]

Thx, I will do it after the reset. I think I have Kazagumo, if I selected her from the selector..

[remote yarrow]

No, but we recommend 3rd Dorm slot + 2nd floor and the rest to dock space

Oh then get 2nd floor and dock space as needed

[fiery pelican]

Used to farm the lowest difficulty stage, they can survive it

[fiery pelican]

She's bad in general? She was my fav ship, okay will get rid of her

[turbid latch]

how to have 2nd floor? should i just get my dorm to be big unti there is an option to have 2nd floor

[plain saffron]

get 2nd floor dorm then the rest dock space
and need to expand dorm to max then can buy 2nd floor

[remote yarrow]

Yes, you gotta expand it over at the construction site sign with dorm coins and then you can buy 2nd floor

[turbid latch]

damn i shouldnt have bought furnitures first

[fiery pelican]

2nd floor is big so you can farm more

[white bronze]

Anyone know which iron blood CA and CL are best for AA

[remote yarrow]

None? I don't remember IB ships having specially good AA

Oh nvm according to ECTL Nurnberg has good AA

[coarse heron]

Out of Ägir, Freddy, and Azuma, which one would be best on focusing on Dev30 first? Azuma and Freddy are both about 150 prints away and Ägir will be about 220 away once I finish her catchup.

[sweet delta]

whats the bar for good aa

[remote yarrow]

At least Juneau level imo

[sweet delta]

nurn is top 40 vanguard

[coarse heron]

Top 40

[sweet delta]

juneau is top 20

[remote yarrow]

Maybe I'm too demanding?

[foggy chasm]

how many washing machine u guys have leveld to +10? i kinda forgot you can switch gear easily with preset now... i have 7 washing machine now with +10 at least

[whole crypt]

top 40 is basically nothing, you don't really carry with anything outside of top 10

[blissful hamlet]

what is halford good at?

[sweet delta]

in conclusion, one does not simply do AA with ironblood

[coarse heron]

12

[whole crypt]

is this on mebot's AA chart?

[remote yarrow]

Don't let Mebot read this

[foggy chasm]

hmmm why?

[remote yarrow]

But I have like 10~15

[sweet delta]

i have only 18 at at least +10. Memebot has at least 69 at +13.

[foggy chasm]

oh ok so its fine right? changing prseets is a bothersome right

[turbid latch]

is this okay?

[sweet delta]

on he included main fleet. so top 40 overall

[whole crypt]

yeh I wouldn't really try to carry with anything outside of top 10, which is basically everything up to Juneau if you cut out the extra Isuzu and Shimanto and repair ships

[sweet delta]

juneau is 9th but that AA is super low compared to top 5

[whole crypt]

oh there's 2 Sandys

well yeh everyone past Isuzu is quite a dive

[remote yarrow]

Yeah, once you get 2nd floor you get 4 more slots so you'll wanna put 4 of the ships you are using there and the other 2 ships 1st floor

[whole crypt]

up to Cheshire and Shimanto fate maybe

[remote yarrow]

So you got a full fleet recovering morale faster the other 2 slots on first floor can be used for passive exp

[turbid latch]

that's already enough and i should use remaining on dock space?

[remote yarrow]

Yeah the rest on dock space as needed

[slow fox]

Top 30 is like only vangaurd ships.

You have the repair ships and then NJ.

[remote yarrow]

Repair ships

[slow fox]

I think I have like 78

[whole crypt]

78 +13 was that

[slow fox]

I'm short on gold plates now

Yeah, +13 all of them

[sweet delta]

what's a typical fleet AA reload time these days

[dense eagle]

the main fleet tech i should be focusing on is fp yes?

[remote yarrow]

No, RLD > Hit

[sweet delta]

hit > fp, and rld may be higher or lower than hit

[remote yarrow]

Oh well suchi knows better

[dense eagle]

is hit just accuracy

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[remote yarrow]

I think it also affects crits

[atomic abyss]

Yes it does

[zenith heron]

If ACC and Hit affects crits, how is LCK used?

[frank pulsar]

in evasion, hit rate and crit

[atomic abyss]

/luck

[frank pulsar]

acc and hit is the same thing also im pretty sure

[atomic abyss]

Right we deleted that

[shell willow]

acc and hit is the same

[frank pulsar]

its one of those inconsistent naming thingws

[atomic abyss]

There's no acc
It's just hit

Hit is basically the counter to evasion, and also affects crits

Luck affects both hit and evasion, and also affects crits

[sweet delta]

1.6s

[remote yarrow]

Present suchi knows more than past one

[frank pulsar]

its worth noting that luck has a much lower weight than hit in hit rate calculations

[outer walrus]

If I want to grind a specific story level, is there any way to skip the already beaten story levels or do I really have to repeat them from start to end each time?

[atomic abyss]

No you can just challenge any of the maps you have cleared at any time

[sweet delta]

which puts AA Mode at a measly 16% AA buff against a constant stream of planes 40s long @slow fox
or 12% AA buff against 10s of planes and 5s of emptiness.
Much lower than 21%.

[atomic abyss]

No need to go through 13-1/2 to play 13-3 for example

[outer walrus]

What I mean is if there's a way to skip the whole level

Such as you do with the daily trainings, where you can skip x1 or x2

[frank pulsar]

no, there isnt

[atomic abyss]

No

[outer walrus]

Okay, thanks

[slow fox]

Am I going to have to recalculate AA uptimes

[frank pulsar]

if you could skip it theres not much point in playing the game

[willow peak]

when is the gem x2 reset?

[remote yarrow]

Next EN Anni, so august

[sweet delta]

dont you just search 0.21 and check if it's AA Mode and replace it with whatever 0.12 to 0.16 value?

oh you mean ehp3

what does ehp3 assume

[slow fox]

That also allows me to do uptimes for all the other girls.

[willow peak]

is there a chance that the noshiro l2d swimsuit skin be available this black market event?

[slow fox]

I think Bache is one of them.

[remote yarrow]

It most likely will if it released before June 2024

And it's Black Friday

[willow peak]

oh I see thank you so much!!

[sweet delta]

who buffed it from 15% to 21% in the past year

[dense eagle]

can someone gimme a good 13-1 hard mode fleet and is there hard mode 14?

[remote yarrow]

Yes, but not recommended since copying comes with "oh but I don't have X ship or X ship(s)"
And no, only up to W13H

[dense eagle]

actually nvm I just put random ships in and it cleared it anyway

[slow fox]

I gave them uhhhhhhhhh 53% uptime

[dense eagle]

I mean I got every single ship that is good so I don't mind copying fleets

Is 13-4 hard mode difficult? Only chapter I had difficulty clearing was 16

[frank pulsar]

theres no chap 16

[remote yarrow]

Oh well, I used this and it worked, I'm sure there's better and stronger options for ships you may have

[sweet delta]

15-1 is a tutorial for 15-4, and 13 hard is a tutorial for 15-1

[dense eagle]

I mean w15 woops

[dense eagle]

Ok ty

[remote yarrow]

If you already beat W15 you I think you can just use the same fleet and it will work

[dense eagle]

Ok I'll try that out and see if that works thx

[frank pulsar]

w15 fleets work everywhere in campaign

[turbid latch]

when upgrading to 2nd floor do you need gems or those dorm coins

[remote yarrow]

gems, 500

[turbid latch]

damn i was about to spend 1k on dock space lmfao thank god i asked first

[remote yarrow]

Wouldn't mattered, you just would've needed to beat 2 entire campaign world/chapters with 3 stars to get back 500 gems

[turbid latch]

whats the last chapter

[atomic abyss]

15

[remote yarrow]

But that will take long for you to beat if you just started

[atomic abyss]

Which is realistic only for 1+ year players

[turbid latch]

thats good cuz im on 5 rn

when is the reset is it 4pm gmt + 8

[late flame]

40mins ago

[atomic abyss]

3pm GMT+8

[turbid latch]

this is cool when did they add this wtf

[remote yarrow]

I think he means the lock screen

[atomic abyss]

In May

[late flame]

oh the new ui* yeah a few months ago

[turbid latch]

back then i literally get confused w all these tabs (or maybe im just a noob)

[late flame]

you can also switch back to old ui

[turbid latch]

how

[full musk]

First SR from a daily CL pull is she trash or gas

[sweet delta]

Save your gold bulins

[atomic abyss]

One of the few destroyers that are good for anti air

...you won't use her because the specialised CLs are just better at that when it comes to the relevant content

[remote yarrow]

Isn't Ingraham a DD tho

[atomic abyss]

Smoothie, first sentence

[tame jungle]

pretty sure zaglaz meant daily light pull not daily cl pull

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[remote yarrow]

oh woops

[full musk]

Yeah that sorry

[full musk]

You reckon she’d be able to replace Portland or Helena? My team’s got 0 SRs atm lol

[atomic abyss]

Perhaps worth considering for the second fleet

Better to slot in SRs into the backline

As opposed to the front

Because of the limited number of gold bulins you have

[remote yarrow]

Save your Bulins for next week, maybe any or some of the new SRs will be good

[atomic abyss]

If you were around for the previous event, Indiana would be a much better investment

[late flame]

then again if i started last event i wouldnt pull and save cubes instead

[remote yarrow]

Now that I think of it only Hatarase will need Bulins Hiei is a META ship

[full musk]

Definitely gonna be doing that

[atomic abyss]

I highly doubt another SR META BC will top Hood anyways...

[whole crypt]

won't cost bulins regardless, the bigger problem would be skill leveling

[atomic abyss]

Also new players wont have the mats to enhance her fully anyways

[atomic abyss]

Sorry I phrased this badly

[late flame]

hmm cant say no to fp tech

[atomic abyss]

I highly doubt that after getting another SR META BC, will we get one that actually tops Hood

[late flame]

ironic i have not ever used hood at all after i got her

[whole crypt]

it literally doesn't matter whether Hiei META tops hood

[atomic abyss]

Yeah I know

[vale spindle]

i prefer calling it ACC cause thats how the en game calls it in skills

[rose cosmos]

Is ayanami worth building?

[atomic abyss]

No

[late flame]

not really

[whole crypt]

is Ayanami included in rookie missions for EN

[atomic abyss]

No

[rose cosmos]

I don’t think so

[atomic abyss]

She isn't a starter after all

[whole crypt]

then no point raising her

[atomic abyss]

By that point you have 3 other starters to choose to invest in anyways

Invest if you find her cute I guess
Just dont expect any miracles from her

[late flame]

ayanami is a starter, albeit jp server only iirc
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Beginner_Rewards

[atomic abyss]

Yes, only for JP

[rose cosmos]

Btw for the ur prints rewards for newcomer, is dumping them to freddy is a bad idea?

[sweet delta]

bad idea indeed

[rose cosmos]

Fuck

[atomic abyss]

Yes very bad

[rose cosmos]

[full musk]

I thought FDG was godtier

[whole crypt]

I mean if you've already done it then whatever you just finish her quicker

[rose cosmos]

I only have 60 prints left though

Who should I spend to now

[whole crypt]

she's still good but you can enhance her with coin so the only difference is you get to use her in her completed state a bit sooner

[vale spindle]

yes but its better to use those prints on ships that cannot be coined

[rose cosmos]

Oh fuck I just realized ruppy cannot be coined either

[whole crypt]

should be coming in the next few months

you're not missing much anyway

[remote yarrow]

Why are you focusing on rupprecht tho focus on PR4 if you haven't yet

[rose cosmos]

I like her

[remote yarrow]

Oh well

[rose cosmos]

As for august, she is best at boss fleet rite?

[whole crypt]

she works well against bosses that you want to use her stop for, if you have her at FS5 and build main fleet strike timings around her (or vice versa)

[coarse heron]

which DR to Dev30 first? Agir Azuma or Freddy? Agir will need like 220 prints, my Azuma and Freddy need ~140 each
basically who should I be focusing on for event shop DR prints and shit

[whole crypt]

but she's not much for late campaign and early-mid campaign is just overleveling

[atomic abyss]

Freddy uses coins tho

[rose cosmos]

Which cv should I pair her with btw

[atomic abyss]

So Freddy and Agir simultaneously

Ignore Azuma

[whole crypt]

depends on what you're doing

[coarse heron]

RIP Azuma

[rose cosmos]

Is agir even coinable now? No rite?

[late flame]

and drek

[whole crypt]

not yet

[coarse heron]

the Rapper Drake is already Dev30 because I make poor decisions

[blissful hamlet]

should I +13 halford plane?

[whole crypt]

should you even use Halford

[atomic abyss]

I wouldn't bother

[vernal edge]

Dilemma: Do i spend 60k on fdg and then more coins on her coin up before the event and while event is ongoing, or do i skip building her to be able to pull for more next 3 weeks?

[coarse heron]

okay so use all shop prints on Agir and coin FdG, got it

[late flame]

just do 10 prints daily no need to rush

[blissful hamlet]

halford looks like poverty plymouth so yes I'm leveling her

[whole crypt]

how much 12-4 can you run after spending those 60k

I think he's talking about the 60k to complete her dev

[vernal edge]

Yes

[late flame]

oh i forgot that costs 60k

[coarse heron]

That's what, 30 runs of 12-4

[vernal edge]

Kinda need oil for event too

[whole crypt]

how the hell does Halford make a poverty Plymouth and why wouldn't you just work on Plymouth instead

[sweet delta]

It's serenity

[whole crypt]

there's practically nothing outstanding about Halford

[rose cosmos]

So is drake worth it, I plan on doing her after ancho, she looks so good

[late flame]

no lol

[whole crypt]

Drake is not really worth the effort

[coarse heron]

Drake has been powercrept ages ago

[rose cosmos]

[coarse heron]

she was good... in 2020.

[atomic abyss]

There are CLs, traditionally a non DPS class, that can outdps Drake with ease...

[rose cosmos]

Roon is still a good tank now right, been using a 125 one in my main fleet since forever

[coarse heron]

Roon is forever (or until you get a better tank)

[whole crypt]

pretty sure the CLs that can out DPS Drake are all top class CLs

[atomic abyss]

Roon is an ok tank, just like Portland

[remote yarrow]

Which doesn't take that long once you start working on PR4

[rose cosmos]

Is it good to pair her with the hein and emden

[rose cosmos]

Like ancho?

[remote yarrow]

Anchorage takes at most 1 month to Dev 30 if you coin her + catchup

[whole crypt]

don't think of using ships in factions.

[coarse heron]

Heinrich is also a tank, why would you run 2 tanks unless you're doing some memes

[atomic abyss]

Heinrich is an outright better ship anyways

[rose cosmos]

Idk I use both of them on a mob fleet lol

[remote yarrow]

Not bad, but as long as this doesn't become an IB Faction fleet

[coarse heron]

pretty ure my best tanks right now are Anchovy and San Fran

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't use Roon with Heinrich and Emden

[rose cosmos]

Why’s that

[coarse heron]

faction fleets are the big dumb

[atomic abyss]

Faction fleets are inherently bad

[whole crypt]

more rather I wouldn't use Roon at all

[remote yarrow]

Faction fleets are unoptimal and a self imposed handicap

[slow fox]

slander

[vernal edge]

What is coin hard cap again? 250k?

[remote yarrow]

600

[coarse heron]

speaking of big dumb, I need to work out fleets for W14 at some point, my first foray into 14-3 went... poorly

[whole crypt]

usually the result of not having ASW

[coarse heron]

yeah I've retrofitted Eldridge since then, gonna level her up some more and see if I can make ASW magic work

[opaque gate]

are torpedo bombers actually good?

[whole crypt]

you don't need Eldridge but I guess she helps

[whole crypt]

what is your comparison

[coarse heron]

compared to what?

[opaque gate]

like compared to dive bombers?

[coarse heron]

they do way more damage
at least in my experience

[whole crypt]

depends on usage, and also not like it matters outside of flex plane slots

[dense eagle]

who is this good on?

[opaque gate]

trp stat affects them? or just avi

[whole crypt]

any DPS CA that's not Drake

[crimson glacier]

planes only care about avi

[atomic abyss]

Avi, carriers don't have torp stat

[vernal edge]

Bearn

[opaque gate]

i see, thanks! i find torp bombers to miss a lot

[whole crypt]

it doesn't matter whether you have TRP stat on a carrier, planes just scale off AVI anyway

[atomic abyss]

Well, assuming you actually use good ones torp bombers, yes of course

The main difference is that the "budget" dive bombers (which are purple rarity) are ridiculously strong compared to the purple torpedo bombers available

[placid chasm]

Well, it’s also based on enemy movements.

[whole crypt]

it depends on what you're trying to hit

[coarse heron]

also depending on which torpedo bombers you're using

[quartz jungle]

Except Tenzai Kai against boss IIRC?

[whole crypt]

and the torps also generally hit better than a bomb if it hits

[opaque gate]

okok thx, i thought dive bombers are stronger

[atomic abyss]

Converging issue is that you need slows for it to be effective

And yeah tenzan kai isn't exactly obtainable for a new player anyways

Not that regular tenzans are bad but still

[placid chasm]

Dive bombers are not super powerful compared to torp bombers

[coarse heron]

converging are OP if you can slow the boss through various means (or if they're a low movement boss to begin with)

[opaque gate]

i see, that is why IJN has good CV

[coarse heron]

[whole crypt]

depends on what you're trying to hit and what you're trying to hit it with

there's nothing that innately makes an IJN carrier better than one from another faction

[placid chasm]

It’s based on which carriers you are using in a fight actually.

[coarse heron]

Winnn gonna freak when he finds out 3 of the 4 best CVs are Bri'ish

[whole crypt]

it's based on everything

what you're fighting, which carriers/vangaurds you group with, the gear you put on them appropriate for the fight

[placid chasm]

Also this my first time in this discord server

I’m also first time player in 2024

[whole crypt]

if you need help you're free to ask

[vernal edge]

Is there any mandatory AA carry i should care about in w12 if i dont have sextuples and overall gear is meh at best?

[whole crypt]

ch12 doesn't even need carries or anything newer than sextuples

[civic crag]

Is the experimental xb3sc a good dive

[coarse heron]

W12 just needs a a coupke ships okay at AA, doesn't need a carry

[whole crypt]

a bunch of not absolute AA shitters with roomba should be enough if you don't go without carriers

[whole crypt]

not worth the cost, it's just a gold-skinned helldiver

[civic crag]

ATP just retrofit sandy Kai and you’re set

[opaque gate]

how do u guys remember the name of guns lol

[whole crypt]

you don't even need to retrofit sandy for 12

[remote yarrow]

Yes, but only a noticeable upgrade at +13, before that it's not worth the cost and 🤏

[civic crag]

There’s only a few good guns you need to know

[civic crag]

Okay so I should just got for the tenrai?

[whole crypt]

just do PR4 for Tenrai or wait for it to lab, but costs will probably be a thing

[civic crag]

Wait hold the fuck up am I see an UR amagi???

[civic crag]

Which research give tenrai print

[remote yarrow]

Amagi (CV) and yes

[opaque gate]

can i still owari da everything in later chapters?

[whole crypt]

you'll need to start actually thinking about what to use around ch13

[crimson glacier]

well enty is still really good in w13

[remote yarrow]

Q > G > D in most cases

D ULs give good prints

[whole crypt]

more like D ULs are just fast with a fair chance of prints

[remote yarrow]

Well true

[civic crag]

Okays but I’m maxing out the FdG catch-up now so pr4 later

[whole crypt]

you can do PR4 while catching up FdG

[remote yarrow]

But you can do both tho

[whole crypt]

catchup isn't tied down by focus

[remote yarrow]

Don't tell me you are focusing PR2

[whole crypt]

he probably is

[remote yarrow]

[opaque gate]

badly want to use izumo in later ch, is she still relevant? and is her sim 5 worth it

[whole crypt]

you can use Izumo up to ch13 without much issue assuming augment, FS less relevant

[opaque gate]

and damn didnt even get a single cv retrofit blueprint on hard

[remote yarrow]

She wasn't until her Unique Augment now she's a lidl Unzen

[atomic abyss]

Izumo not ibuki

[remote yarrow]

similar name, mb

[opaque gate]

nice, imma sim 5 her and put her in everything

[remote yarrow]

I always confuse them

[civic crag]

Why not

[frank pulsar]

she works as long as youre not in ch15 in campaign, albeit with difficulty at ch13-ch14

[whole crypt]

you can coin PR2 ships and everything from the series is available elsewhere

[coarse heron]

cause the gear from PR2 isn't worth using research slots on when you can just craft it

[civic crag]

I just want the 150 prints

[coarse heron]

You don't need to focus PR2 for that.

[whole crypt]

catchup != focus, you're not getting it are you

did you even set focus?

[civic crag]

So I should focus pr4 while catching up FdG?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[remote yarrow]

Yes

[frank pulsar]

yes

[civic crag]

But won’t the chance be really low for pr2 research to come up then

[coarse heron]

doesn't matter

[remote yarrow]

You don't need to resarch PR2 stuff

[civic crag]

Oh ok

[coarse heron]

catchup is in effect on all research

[frank pulsar]

doesnt matter, youll be coining fdg
the rest of pr2 is not worth focusing

[coarse heron]

Also wait is PR4 or PR5 better to focus on

[frank pulsar]

4 first then 5

[remote yarrow]

Currently 4

We might swap to recommending PR5 once PR4 gets retired

[whole crypt]

catchup simply adds bonus prints when you complete a research, it doesn't matter what series research you actually do

[civic crag]

So I do this

[golden moth]

Guys how good is leonardo da vinci..

[civic crag]

Wait actually I didn’t know that wtf I thought I had to be same series

[whole crypt]

maybe, but PR5 is really just Plymouth for priority

[remote yarrow]

But Plygun good

[whole crypt]

PR4 still has Anchorag, Agir and Hakuryuu and overall decent gear so even if gets pulled off rotation I see it a working focus for now

[ebon verge]

is it good to spam D research pr7?

[whole crypt]

yeh but you don't really use much out of PR5 besides q152 and you're not really going to be in a great shape to focus down gear if you're trying for ships

[remote yarrow]

If you wanna focus on the ships and don't have enough cubes to spam H research yeah

[whole crypt]

face is good for focusing down ships

[civic crag]

Wait guys what Armor type is compiler

[atomic abyss]

Good if you have the right sub team mates

[whole crypt]

LdV is best solo sub

[ebon verge]

how much cubes should i be keeping at minimum ?

[whole crypt]

she's the one you use with not the right team mates

[civic crag]

So champy gun for compiler?

[whole crypt]

you need 400 cubes to pity a new UR, how many you feel safe to keep is up to you

[atomic abyss]

400

[whole crypt]

keep in mind there are also reruns and collab has no pity at all if you care about collabs

[remote yarrow]

But most ppl don't recommend spamming H research if you don't have at least more than 800 or even 1000 cubes to make sure

[whole crypt]

if you want to be safe then yes, I personally don't see a problem taking 1hr H if you have over 600

also there's very little practical reason to push cube hard, they're better used as a refresh when you don't get faces

[coarse heron]

I usually take 1 hour rigging as a refresh if I don't get faces

[whole crypt]

you can go ham with cubing and finish ships like maybe a week earlier but you still have to spend the rest of the year doing research for gear anyway

[placid chasm]

I know that I mostly play WoWs, but Is it possible to get game help for this even this is AL?

[whole crypt]

that or just give up on ships for the La-9 life

[coarse heron]

caveat with cubes: If you get the 30 minute Soul Forming, spend cubes on that

[whole crypt]

what sort of help are you even after

[remote yarrow]

No? We don't provide WoWs help if that's what you mean

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't take soul forming if cube count is low regardless

[inner delta]

you know they have their own server

[coarse heron]

I would, you only yolo once

[inner delta]

[placid chasm]

Ah, good to know

[whole crypt]

you take a soulforming to finish research maybe half a day earlier, what's the point?

[tame jungle]

wows help you can go to #other-games or #off-topic probably

[remote yarrow]

Like Yuki said, try asking at their discord or try what the person above me said this channel is only AL related

[coarse heron]

versus 2 pulls worth of cubes, it's a matter of what you consider more important.

[placid chasm]

Thanks, by the way has anyone noticed the damage power for Arizona in AL?

[whole crypt]

2 pulls worth of cubes is worth more than waiting half a day yes

[coarse heron]

That's a personal opinion

[remote yarrow]

Well no, most of us share it

[coarse heron]

Still a personal one.

[whole crypt]

you thinking the other way around is your personal opinion, most of us value cubes more than time

[ebon verge]

how many la9 is recommended to have btw?

[coarse heron]

Then why do resarch at all, it costs resources you could be saving instead

[whole crypt]

5-6

[crimson glacier]

stop acting stupid

[inner delta]

cube is more important than gold wtf

[remote yarrow]

Not good

[whole crypt]

coins can be grinded, cubes can't

[grizzled wave]

which UR is usually MLB’d first? shimakaze,shimano, vanguard? or shud i wait for jp anni?

[crimson glacier]

wait

[whole crypt]

wait for Amagi

[grizzled wave]

amagi?

[crimson glacier]

the next UR

[late flame]

#jp-7th-anniversary-livestream-discussion check pins there

[placid chasm]

Good to know.

[remote yarrow]

If you are gonna be comparing WOWs ships performance with AL ships I suggest you don't because it doesn't carry over since they are 2 whole different games

[ebon verge]

and hvar is still better than la9 on light armor right?

[placid chasm]

Ah, I don’t meant to say that WoWs thing, I meant AL

[remote yarrow]

Oh ok, was just making sure

[whole crypt]

yes

[placid chasm]

They are two naval games

[inner delta]

one is a gacha game

collection waifu gacha auto game

[crimson glacier]

AL is less naval and more just anime fantasy

[remote yarrow]

Two naval games who don't play the same in any sense

Well, Shipyard is a collab with WoWs but that's it

[placid chasm]

Ik, they come in different approach

While WoWs, it’s a competitive realistic game

[remote yarrow]

So what's your point or the reason for that comment

[frank pulsar]

apples and pears
two completely different types of gameplay by different devs
the only similarity is that they both have a warship element