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oh, shit, i was parsing Eagle as Enterprise lol
Eagle ship is HMS but š® 
I think they already have the rundown for the event. It's just that I don't remember which one.
oh, okay -- gonna check their anniv. website 
day 1
programme is in the stream desc
Found the rundown here
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNE42EzfCE4 it's literally right on the youtube page but sure go rummage through the anniv site
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Hello everyone, could anyone help me with some fleet building and tell me which ships/gear i have are worth upgrading ? I've been playing for approx 2 weeks and i'm hard stuck 9-2. I cant find real good synergies and have no idea about what is good or not.
I have like 5 screenshots but i dont want to spam this channel with pictures, so maybe i can DM ?
do it in a thread
create a thread and post entire dock and depot
Alright, imma check out how to do that, thanks
Make a thread 
that's probably the hard part
Make sure u toggle equipped on in depot
Do yāall think I could get away with Kear in my boss fleet for world 15? I worry about her secondaries
Kear/YorkII/Enty was my plan
Possible off flag I believe
Unless she hurts your ACV too much
Do u not have any BB?
I do have BBs, Iām just challenging myself to build an allied only fleet to beat w15
And I like the kearsarge fleet
Iām sure I could replace her with Soyuz or something if I needed
prolly fine
Fair enough
I think her secondaries are too weak as main BB but I havent tried her sry 
Are suicide boats a big deal in w15?
there's some
also ya, she only get ghost secondary
just like the other BBV other than hyuuga cuz her skill
Twin 457 or triple gold 406 for Kear?
uh can't answer that i don't know
Her secondaries are pretty bad afaik
It would have to be the EU one right, for her skill? The AP one. I guess I could use the mk7s as well
The new UR is next week?
uh, champy gun is french tho
For ch 15 go with twin 457 assuming mob fleet has one already
Yeah I have enough 457s to go around
you can prolly run double 457 boss mob
I just worry that 457 on Kear would kind of desync with her planes and skill
most likely yes
Soyuz gan can substitute for champy for kear btw
Although I think kear is too slow for both anyway
In campaign 457 is best anyway
And desyncing is a bonus in campaign dw about it
You can use Soyuz gun if your Kear is in boss fleet
In 15-4 if kear fleet fights 2nd boss go with mk7
My current plan was NJ/Uni/Volga Brest/Sandy/Eldridge and Kear/YTII/Enty Guam/HammII/Plym
Debating swapping Eldridge for LaffII, or just slotting LaffII anywhere
plymouth is american 
If I could go for American I would, but I canāt not use uni lmao
Does unicorn really heal the whole team?
she really does
really
but main only on preload post retro
i know yooki smh also what healer i said plymouth
didnt they say~~ uss faction fleet~~ oh allied nvm 
Laff2 better than hamm2 probably
^
And u can put her in mob and eldridge in boss
Best healer?
unicorn retrofit
Does her stats affect the amount she heals the team?
You donāt think Iād miss Hamm buff too much?
what buff, kear is ara already
no, her skill scales off the receiving ships' HP
still wants skill levels ofc
also just replace kear with nj and use soyuz on mob instead
Yes but Monarch doesn't boosts the reload by 40% of the BBs,I check the other two.
Ohhh youāre right, I forgot about that lmfao
Hamman prolly explodes
Eldridge keeps the van alive 
Eldridge in middle or offtank? 
Middle is fine
she can off, but ideally middle, unless there's someone frailer
Should I use Operation AF report or Anti-Em commands? 
Alongside repair kit, i assume
what ship
Eldridge/laffii
Laffii needs hedgehog
Yeah probably
Toolbox better for her in that case
I suppose eldridge can use AF/usb stick/rpg aux
Laff can offtank fine right
Laffii yeah
she can even main tank if needed
RPG aux?
laffii can also tank fine
Toolbox or AA radar for sandy alongside washer
After +13 the AFCT, what is recommended to +13 next?
I think I missed that event, was taking a break
sandy can use bulge
never AA radar
Sandy with bulge? 
or toolkit
is it worth to wait for musashi rerun? when i could have a broken eagle fleet?
Check /plus13 in #bot-spam
Just making a bad joke. Thank you
what does waiting imply
like for her next banner?
i mean yes but what does worth waiting for her imply? like saving ur UR bulins or ?
cubes etc
then no
still gotta fully level unzen and UvH
leveling shouldnt be a consideration
You all think I should wait for them to fix sandy bug before I try to use her or is it nbd
try it rn
Pull on next banner 
Can probably have enough coobs for sushi rerun anyway so dont skip a banner waiting for sth that is not certain yet especially a UR banner
If you want to wait for 5 years 
Should I roll for the current event?
vanguard that good?
nope
I love waiting for qol things to happen. I play Azur lane after all
Lol
Zuihou is free dont use coobs for her
her last rerun was last year?
So I shouldn't roll for any banner rn?
HMS Vanguard just reran in July
1 Light daily
Daily 1 on light pool
never pull perma outside of events except the refunded 1 light /day
Is there not an event on rn
so who is next ur?
yeah but the event's ship is free
there is but the only limited ship is free from pts
so u dont pull for ships that u can get from pts and shop
You think it would be a meme to just run Antenna/Oscar for both my fleets? Lol
No info yet, but there's one coming this month(?)
Use cat with flame
or mountain
why would it be a meme
what u thinks this fleets compare to Ultimate Shinano/Haku/Implac ?
For medium/heavy
Idk, Iām not super involved with the cats tbh
Iāll try to run w15 now, wish me luck
This is what I think
is ur nahkimov 6 stars?
dev25
so its worse then
We will know soon
Ppl are testing (hopefully)

Uh Nakh/YK2/Kear?
Soyuz Nakh Haku probably
you'd need voroshilov in this case

augment 
nakh's best comps will almost certainly demand soyuz
But this will work huh, eh don't have yt2 anyways
chkalov is a fine substitute, but soyuz is just better
Haku for more dmg or implac for eva decrease?
now that remains to be seen
How to enhance a ship's skill by augment module?
get the unique augment to level 10
Or just run her with sakura and eagle , sacking damage in favor of a better fleet 
they need to have a unique augment and u need it at lvl 10
too hard need battle simulation room when?
i've been asking since 2018
you say that, but soyuz haku nakh is the highest theoretical DPS for a nakh comp
Yeah what dps data , the same one with Sandy dps > ply ? 
unless you intend to throw voroshilov on the front for the slow
Theoretical dps predictions is extremly inaccurate 
You max it out at 10 yes
then what do you think is the best comp for nakh
Bruh no resources for that
no its not the same data and that one didnt predict sandy would be bugged
Tbh nakh can work in almost every comp as long as there is a vanguard to proc her skill
Not like CV frontlines are that strict 
but they are
cv have great buffers ontop of the great dpses we alr have so now ure looking for trade-offs
Yeah of course I just mean it is workable I suppose
Like for example even vs heavy in IJN fleet u kinda just need tank + gumo 
u need gumo as much as u need aurora vs light
Doesnt that make 3rd slot flexible?
Sirius , Laffey, Helena etc
no i meant that both are dmg increases
Do sirius and laffey contribute that much vs heavy?
not vs heavy
Well Laffey2 can depend
but does voro and tash contribute more vs heavy is the question
u can also just straight up slot smth like unzen there
Yeah I suppose we will see 
augment cope

Vanguard damage means nothing if they fulfill the support requirements
I just wanted to say neko loadout is kinda flexible vs the diff armor types
Just remains to be seen how critical her conditional skill is 
well tash slow is only for the first 50s anyways
Helena Sirus or Kazegumo are all pretty medicore to downright bad
voro is perma as long as she can refresh the buff
Would Voro's slow work consistently and in sync with the strikes since her skill also takes away the slow every 18s?
Oh
well, it's not like you're launching at even 20s realistically
Update: the third star on 15-1 was quite easy with my loadout, though my CVs took a big chunk of damage in the boss fight. Should they have Washers or something?
Also, what auxes for plym? Washer + bulge? Toolkit?
Washing machine + TB ig
You can always ignore her enhanced slow and buff , the regular is sufficient , and if you treat her as support it's fine 
it's not an insignificant buff though, and then you still need to run impla/avp anyways
at that point just use the same old kears yk2 impla team
Yes and no , 70% slow should be sufficient enough for rockets to hit the shots . Damage buff won't create night and day damage performance 
she still wants the rainbow guns
i mean that assumes you have enough of them rolling around i guess

If you are minmaxing your this degree , you should have more then enough rainbow guns , especially since you can just shift gear from fleet to fleet
CVS should be using double catapult, not enough AA probably
Depends
U might have to run timing aux to desync em
It looks like Yorkii Enty so just order them correctly for desync
Oh yea also that, I run cv cvl so natural desync
Wich is the best stage to farm coins?
12-4
Chapter 12+
Was running double bomber on ytii on accident. Oops lmao
Thanks
What is TB?
Toolbox or torpedo bulge or torpedo bomber 

Whatās the tier list for intercept fighters again
For the support fleet anyways
Is fw above tigercat/hornet?
Grumble grumble

Is flapjack good against medium armor? or is bf109g better
bf109g is better against single target medium and light than flap and when u dont need aa
Bf109 is much better if you don't need the aa
you dont need to, i did it with +10 support cv planes
The more maxed gear you have , the more consistent the fleets are
It's a good firepower boosting aux for dds
Iām just hoarding a ton of gold plane plates rn
Obv saving 360 for the rainbow fighter
They have fumo so no need for that
Itās more QOL
I did everything with +10 planes
+13 tigercat or +10 flapjack for enty hmm
Is the flapjack such a big upgrade over the tigercat or hornet
I have extra +13 tigercats and hornets lying around
Because raisins
There was a time in the game where there was no flapjack
And when I was more noobish
Makes sense, anyways if you want AA tiger cat is worse than flapjack
+13 non rocket fighters back then 
Iām only left with one open slot, thatās filled by a +13 hornet on Uni at the moment
One more yellow bp and I can make another flapjack, but I donāt think this is make or break at this point
I have this thing... I honestly don't remember how I got this. Wiki says Angel of the Iris event or research, so... I guess research, since Angel event happened two months after I stopped playing. Any good? Who would use it?
ships that pref fast torps like ancho scylla and š§Æ shimanto
dont we all
I just put it on ships
Iām about to make a thread because of all the pictures that Iād have to post, but Iām looking for a gear advice if I should change any of gear around on any of these characters? I just unlocked another shell, but I couldnāt get it to 10 yet.
Gear advice


Is the main campaign, chapter 12 still drops cognitive chips?
campaign drops cog chips starting from 12-1
12, and onward
Idol/baby ships don't count to comp/tech, right?
correct, they dont
Muse, and Children do not give Faction Tech, they do count for Collection %, and can be used for Combat Data Collection
So like, if I get a char, but decide to retire, do they like, disappear from collection stats?
no, collection % is perm
nope, collection is like a milestone
Ah, good. So I can free some space.
you basically have a Pokedex, the game registers the ship to said Pokedex, and cannot be removed from there 
should also be careful with what you're burning 
easiest thing is to just buy dock space with F2P gems
why isnt kronshtadt as strong as some of my other ships?
i havent played in months so like, im just coming back to this now
she's not MLB, and you have terrible auxiliary on her
though I see a lot of just bad gearing
MLB?
Max Limit Break
max limit break
šØ I have to pay attention to gear???
oh yeah im working on ssr bulins rn
No. She's still pretty good, and probably does a lot more damage than Yat Sen. She's a little more consistent, but her average performance should be nowhere near.
I'm talking about Yat Sen with Chinawall, as opposed to DDGs.
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ca?ship=kronshtadt
Use this site to quickly find what gear to use
Gear is just as important as ships in this game
oh ok ty
if i dont have the gear mentioned is it important enough for me to go out of my way to buy it?
Depends really, you can look at gear stats and decide if the cost is worth it. Getting even semi-decent gear and +10ing it is enough to start with, since a lot of the best gear is hard to get
A good ship with trash gear will perform as bad as a shitter with good gear
I think
so i've been running shitters this entire time god damn š
Well the ships themselves you sent arenāt bad, itās the levels and gear
tbf 90% of stuff it doesn't matter what you have as long as you have something. and then the other 10% you try and eek out every little edge
For everyone here, did you find 15-3 easier to 3* than 15-4
with ammo node, it can be easier
15-4 was much harder to lethal 3*
what's the current monthly arbi? (and what armor type)
hermit/heavy
you will have whatever you got
it's an event that gives a few extra prints for rupprecht so it will mean that you have... extra prints for rupprecht due to the event
this thing, gives firepower and accuracy stats
You lose out on the remaining prints (in your case, 2)
Iām debating shredding a bunch of off meta +13 gear for the plates
sounds like a waste depending on what said off meta gear is
woof that's a waste of gold plates
7 of them??
oh yeah definitely because we're always short aa parts /s
you'll probably be able to +11 one aa gun with all that?
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
unless you're absolutely desperate for some reason for AA gun plates, I'd rather cope that some future gear lab update brings something that uses the quad bofors than scrapping that
840 Gold AA Plates, and 35 Upgrade Parts used on a mid af AA gun 
I'm not upset, I just laugh at people that have zero sense of resource management 
I guess you just really like bad aa guns huh
Most of the game you can slap your dick around and not care
that AA gun on Izumo is actually doing nothing
So why bother +13 random gear then
yes, but to waste your gear mats to get a fuze gun?
If for most of the game you can use anything why bother using precious resources on shit gear
/shrug I liked to give ships ālore accurateā gear, and upgrade whatever I gave out
Because I didnāt care much about the Meta, as I said
why +13 them though at all
do it or don't. you don't need to post more pictures and there's nothing to discuss.
Because I didnāt know what I was doing. Thatās the bottom line
And I didnāt have to know what I was doing
I joined the server and started chatting here because w14 kicked my butt, and only then did I get a sense for what was actually good
What AA gun should go on Eldridge? Range extender or DPS?
Sextuple Bofors/Twin 57?
Supposedly you put your most fragile ship in the middle of Vanguard formation , but why my lv 90 Isuzu still get hit a lot and sink even though she is wedge between my 2 lv 115 CA when the group got hit by torp , in W 12 .
Because she's lower level and AOE dmg like torps, suicide boats and BB salvos can still hit her
Torp do AOE damange ==
If they are too close to each other yep
They do aOE damage...cuz the area is tiny
How much impact does the Hakuryuu FS have on her damage output? Should I even bother?
like 18% more damage
~17% more damage against typical difficult bosses

How good is zuiho? A tier under perseus and uni?
A tier under Volga
Hmm. Gold 8hr Napoli or purple Nyakamov?
Take into account there is maint today/tomorrow
Do you think you should farm for her if you already have both ryuuhou and volga raised? Considering collection dosent matter
Whats the next UR event
She's better than Ryuuhou
We don't know who or what the name of the event will be yet, wait for the information section of JP Livestream which should be at 6PM JST on the 7th 
we have the CtA
But CtA name isn't the same as the event name itself right? 
Yes. It is only 10k tokens
U can easily farm it
She costs no cubes
She is decent
She gives 2 ACC at 120 to CV
Afaik it is different yeah
fleet help
is zuihou worth farming t3 for points? dunno how she compares to unicorn retro
Always worth farming for free ships
She's a secondary healer, which are used in w14/15
She's not a primary healer like uni
So many people wanting to miss out on 2 hit 
Surprisingly so
even some ppl don't wanna get her cuz they gotta grind 
literally like 50 runs, and you're done barely spend any oil
My team as of now. What new ships would anyone recommend for me to replace and add?
unicorn and helena should not be on the same fleet 
Move Helena with Laffey and An Shan to the middle
right?
Alright.. what new ships would yall recommend i should get to make my boss or mob fleet better
Mainly PR ships
ik u guys cant determine that cuz i didnt post my dock atm but i mean i guess some that are needed
And wait for the UR event
Which PR ships from most priority to least?
like top 3 i guess
Everyone in PR4 but Marco 
i finished with anchorage recently, was gonna do plymouth next
Finish Season 4 entirely before going over to PR5
you're not getting plymouth anytime soon

I didn't really mean it as unlocking the ship itself, stay in PR4 for the blueprints needed to get them to Dev 30
youll need 513 prints for her
you need the blueprints else she means nothing
i know and by then I should have about half cas im not literally hard grinding her rn
And about that, your Anchorage isn't Dev 30 yet either
Unlocking a pr ship is basically -1 dock space unless dev30
shes lv.25 as of now
get them all and it won't matter
she would be lv.30 if i didnt know there was a new UR event
I think youre overestimating bp gains
so im saving coins.
You cant coin plymouth fyi
(for prs only)
Well yeah for PRs
for DRs is 7250 iirc
Makes sense I guess but still im gonna PR who i want. I cant craft anyone else and im closest to getting plymouth even if i dont have 513 blueprints. cant even craft FDG
Yeah I was about to ask that, get FdG
how much IB tech do you have?
Seems like you are struggling with Iron Blood Tech points, give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms
426
you're pretty close, do roon if you need someone
Do Divergent Chessboard, it seems like you haven't done it yet based on how few points you got
yeah thanks
About Souryuu
Is he good at the early game?
Souryuu is pretty meh even after retro, so no
good tech
Which I don't think he cares about in early game 
ok

she's got good dive bombers and it's a lot easier to source a helldiver than a good torpedo bomber early game
Do we have a trick to see gear skin without spending oils?
At that point I would go for Sara for a helldiver "user" if he manages to get her
Who's better than Souryuu later on too
what gear skin?
i think he means in game without sortieing
pvp?

Anyways, if you aren't using the recommended fleet in this guide I suggest you do so https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
challenge mode easy?
Oh pvp, thanks. I can just quit before ends
when u get like pr7 or pr6 DRs will u prio them over any other?
Thanks
I was actually thinking about using she, because her pasive looks good.
large is so expensive so idk if I should take it
I will pretty much always focus the season I'm focusing on, barring if it's like a 30 minute research
time to finish agir then haha
focus DR over PR for 4 since u can coin the PR
and try and coin marco to FS5 so she stops showing
u know what your next step should be then 
hakuryuu 
Which passive may I ask? If it's the Hiryuu one that would mean benching Unicorn which is a big nono 
Flawers of fate:
15s after the blattle, and 20s after that, she launches airstrike
newbies usually aren't in a position to retro souryuu?
hiryuu and souryuu are fine for leveling and sakura empire exp grind but nothing for a long time probably
what is your current fleet
why u want to change it? 
it is like unicorn, saratoga, (AvP research) and maybe independence so probably not
for retro bp
That's her retrofit skill, which you wouldn't get any time soon since Unicorn is the prime priority for CV retrofits
yeah take note for the future, it's better to always check the numbers and their relatives because most, actually all pretty much "airstrikes" are gonna be far weaker than an airstrike that you launch when you hit the button
The newbies Fleet
And yorktown, because it's my only option
Her and souryuu
Where's Unicorn?
A
I thought it was just limit break her...
i think he means he is using the template with yorktown
and souryuu is his other option
keep yorktown
she is good tech and early on EU tech is more valuable than sakura
can u get enty from medal shop? @worldly snow
Oh if that's the case use whoever, since you'll replace them for Enty once you get 80 medals 
Sorry for the delay and confusion...
I don't understand a lot of english
get her and replace yorktown 

Actualy
In the medal shop, i can get sandiego, bealfast, sirius or dido
No Enty
also you might consider independence from core shop for 1200
later on maybe
early on u need shells and retrofit unicorn higher prio
That won't be necessary rn
your flair is wrong 
heās only checked half is medal shop, no server is double cl
but your profile says you are from Little Enterprise
lil-E should be CV, SS
yeah other is ss
and yours says avrora
no ur not i shared my id with you and you didnāt add me
I'm at the amagi server...
Change it to not cause confusion if possible 
ok
Like the server role 
then keep yorktown for now 
I added you
chapter13 is the hardest stage on hard, right?
yes
Yeah
ok
After all, thanks for the suport
I just did 11-4 for hard stages, do I need special ships for ch12 hard and 13 hard?
Btw if you manage to get Saratoga she would be a pretty decent replacement for Yorktown
carriers and AA will help
can run triple carrier in mob for ACV
oh I see, so like Anchorage, Sandy Retro, Juneau retro
anchorage doesnt really have especially strong AA but she is a great tank so she works
the other 2 have good AA 
I think you'll need more AA than that
13H hurts
Specially Taihou on H13-4, she hits like a truck
I mean I still got some time to do 13 but I might try chapter12 hard
do I want agir for that or another tank?
ideally Guam
cheshire is also good
so I would want to delevop her
Ideally someone that doesn't have Heavy Armor
Cuz planes, specially TBs shred them 
I would not trust Cheshire to main tank 13-4H
12h is more forigiving tbh
if your backline is strong u might be okay
what about noshiro
it's another case of CB or bust
Just go with 12H 
u could make a thread if u want specific advice 
I mean if agir is CB she would work? or does she have heavy armor
I used this if it helps to understand what you'll kinda want to aim for
I will if I actually try it haha
but akashi missions lock me in super easy hard stages rn
The UR AA gun isn't necessary btw
u could also make a thread to see if u can tackle it or what to prep for it
i made my ch15 thread 2 months before I tried it 
btw a friend got centaur as a build
and bc he doesn't have good cvl yet I recommended him to mlb and use it, is it alr advice lmao
like the only cvls are uni and saratoga retro next to enty
Uni and Indep exist
yeah he got them, but still missing one cv for opsi cvl fleet
Indep 
no cores ig
oh opsi cv fleet 
yeah I am not sure how centaur performs but her description in tier list seemed not bad
Centaur is a strong carrier providing good damage and support with a unique plane loadout. Centaur provides great AA cover through her fighters and good damage through her strong torpedo bombers, but the biggest benefit she brings is her support.
she kinda has trouble syncing to CVs
Idk how she does in an opsi CV fleet which is all about syncing
Plus idk if double fighter slot is that good for Bossing 
oh I see
her TB slot is great tbh (4x planes)
imo the perma available carriers worth using early on in OpSi CV fleet are enty, ark royal, taihou, shangri-la + AvP when u get her and maybe ark META
So guys if i marry laffey do i gotta remarry laffey II
Yes, they are 2 different ships, but you can use both ships skins on any of them
Ohh okayy
Btw didn't you need help with gear last night or was that another guy? 
Yeah my gear is cooked
Its similar tho to other people loadouts
Who's "other people"? 
Well it just these so idk if its people loadouts or not

man those are some nasty fuckin builds
Don't use those as guidance 
just do the easiest stage in the 13h and get the cores from it
no need to full clear it
i just did 13-2 for the cruiser bps
like actually plain bad
Not a single one of those four is good. And in general, 99% of them are not good
Those are some awful loadouts
just read sam's equipment guide
Ohhh okay š„²
Like I said last night, make a thread and drop your depot in there if you need help
Is it worth me getting independence?
Were do i make a thread again
You bought the Lv 70 commander boost pack so you should have some decent transitional gear
no need to screenshot the dock
it is worth getting independence
not the highest priority for you atm but u can if u have no other prio in the core shop
Top right of your screen
Uh guys..did i read it right that its call to arms later tonight?
In game or on cord

Huh, on discord of course 
Ohhhhh
You read it right 
What should i call the thread
Well not later tonight, it's after tonight's maintenance
anything that is inoffensive
f4 gear help?
Whats call of arms
Preludes to events most of the time
prelude to big event - stay focused on your own issue for now 
F4 gear help
Ahahha yeaasssssssss...i can smell a UR event after the announcement this sat
All i hear is spend money
if u play good enough u won't need to whale on the banner
there is a limit to how much p2w you can do, and theres no competitive reason to anyway
He probably will
I think the pulled for both Shima and Nano on permanent banners
I switched my fleet so i wont beat w9 rn
oh boy 
there is no p2w lmao, dropping a thousand dollars isnt going to make a bad account better
It's pay 2 fast rather for some stuff
A game that not p2w is wild
me spending 1k on the game to gain 0 advantage over other people 
this game monitize through skins instead
AL is unique in that way yes
Stop getting derailed and do the thread thing pls 
al makes money off mainly cosmetics and not the gacha
ive never had to spend money to get the ultra rares since you get more than enough cubes
well, throwing money at the screen does help give you an edge in some areas if you know what to do, but certainly not nearly as much as one may think
Does anyone know where the beginner guide is?
imo the edge they get is more dock space, meaning they can do auto mode longer without having to stop to retire ship drops
only real things to throw money at in this game is dock space, outfits, rings, and dorm slots 
it depends as to truly how much money you throw at the game
but among other things in theory if you were a big enough whale you could throw a truly eye-watering amount of cubes at research and speed up progress on that by a few months
Which would be best for Graf Zeppelin?
junkers usually
Ju87
Kay, thank u!
DR ship development you also put coin 10 times ? I mean FDG
Yeah why not if you got the coins to do so.
Still at 50% discount but she sure gulp down more compare to PR 
Question
If you oath laffey 2, do you also get her oath skin?
Yes
Pog thanks
yes, see the skins wiki page for more detailed information about skin sharing
HI
hi
What world is best for farming cubes and gems?
c1 opsi
cubes and gems come from commissions, just do any world (it isn't really worth farming gem commissions), though w2 is best if you wanna gem grind cope
You can't really farm those
They can appear in urgent commissions so they're all rng
For those to appear, just grind
I see thankyou!
just do dailies lol (for cubes)
the best way to farm coobs and gems is auto repeat c1

i don't think there is a better way
youre funny bro
abdou are you ok?
?
You can get some cubes from doing Ashen Simulacrum (but they are limited one offs)
if not auto repeating c1 then which is the better way ?
playing the game normally
i don't think anyone sane farm c1 for comms anyway, opsi comms rate is low
c1 opsi main purpose is literally just cope for more ap nothing more
am afraid playing the game normally isn't better than auto repeating c1

playing the game normally gets you coins and actual xp
to be fair if you no life c1 it does spam a lot of commissions for you
I swear I had one time that I saw like UR colored (rainbow) research but have never seen it again outside of like three times on the same day. Am I imagining things, or is there some sort of condition for them?
if playing the game normally wasnt better than c1 farm noone would be doing 12-4 abdou2004
there's also some kind of cooldown for comms spawn
research is rng upon rng
They asked about cubes and gems
theres no pattern or cooldown for research types is literally just rng
Tbf you can just do both though
there's some theory that those only spawn in first 6 research of the day
the 30m ones

Okay, so I didnāt imagine the UR research. I just happened to get really lucky to see multiple, but then never again š
they are extremely rare
last one i saw was in the first week of july
also the theory of them only appearing for the first 5 researches is almost certain
Well saw one last week lol
well it is a gacha roll
and my gacha rolls are so bad
maybe if we wait long enough they'll make the rate public like tech boxes 
though knowing EN translation it could be just list of equips instead of rates
I thought you were doing box rates
It's useless now
What is tactical training?
Are the boxes themselves no longer useful?
Oh ok got it
the context here is i'm doing data collection for box drop rates. in patch notes they saying they're adding rate to the descriptions. so what i do is useless now
wait really
Added a specific chance description of the gear rarity to the Tech Pack info interface (only the description is optimized, the actual chance is not affected);
huh, that was not on my bingo sheet
they finally remembered tech packs exist after making shiranui augment
whats a tech pack
Darn
really though of all the rates they could have published, this was definitely not towards the top
tech boxes
some desc call it pack some call box idk anymore
actual name is tech pack so i guess that's the correct one
predl up
uhh wht
Ping me when you post the link so I can pin it

Any of these better then the others ?
yes illustrious is the best
Did you find something already? 
Or did you get surprised by the mandatory app update?
Well enterprise if not MLB is always a shout
Otherwise Illustrious
Although she's not particularly useful for a long time
Enty is 125 so illy it is
looks like there's playstore update
Oh, yeah.
shoukaku and zuikaku can be obtained from wa right
? if someone needs ijn tech
Mandatory update, was announced the other day on Weibo.
Zuikaku yes, shoukaku no
i need 280 IJN tech where do i get them what is WA
But JP and EN don't seem to be getting said app update.
War Archives
Just farm normal maps for IJN ships and MLB them
if you need ijn tech then just grab one of the sister
No need to farm war archives for them
Or that
well this is annoying
~~ already grab Illus~~

Which sisters?
congrats on -1 dockspace until w15
Well Sakura tech isn't hard to get
I mean i have 60 extra dock space so its okay
~~ its not like i have the 580 BP for Dev 30 Haku anyways~~
Thatās where I am at too, working on the other pr4 ships first.
illustrious
Hello, i wonder what maps are the best to spend your War Archive pass on? Is it just for the magnetic torpedo gear run?
divergent chessboard or the polaris event
DC for the ironblood ships for tech and polaris for cosmic kicks (eva aux)
Why the design change of Nugget meta?
i dont really need ships since i alr have all in the War Archive
Why ask here
eva aux is good suggestion tho, thanks! 
This isn't "#devs-answer-questions"
And they most certainly will not entertain such questions anywhere on this server
yea if you have all you need, just ignore WA
Okay. Just thot someone knew could answer it
how do i farm coins for the ur banner when i have a coin limit of 49800?
That's the soft limit
The cap is 600k
i guess yeah, coins income wise running 12-4 is better. I treat WA usually as a place to level up my sub-100 or even sub-80 ships lol 
You can store up to 600k coins regardless of level
It's just that past 49800, you can no longer collect from the merchant
You can get coins from other sources instead
ok thanks
You can also use mail as a bank too
datamine waiting room
Nagami got hit by the mandatory app update wall. 
O o f

No trick mechanics?
new meta and easy
nice oxymoron
So....what exactly does Fargo do exactly?
Move stuff as AL's equivalent of Amazon?
but AL already has Amazon
She's medium armor right?
So throw Implacable & Sakuran UR CVs at her, got it
Also, what does her drone even do?
it's Nagato so heavy armor
This might be a really dumb question but i just collected the crimson kitsune mask but i cant find it in my depot?
it's a gear skin
Oh, for some reason I was thinking she was a BC and not a BB
Ohh ok
Maybe it's just because she smol
Flat
Textmine
QE's also smol yet she heavy armour, while Repulse & Renown medium 
anson smol
the difference between a Battleship and a Battlecruiser
Well a lot of German battlecruisers have heavy armour except the Scharnhorsts
hmm 3ddorm stuff
let's not get started down the rabbit hole that is battlecruiser classification and design philosophy
Well, that's a thing
I can feel the 10GB update coming 
the 12th of september update 
Chonk
ouh we mining today
Steam client when
It's probably just AL, mind you the O class have like 7.5 in of belt armour and like 2.5 in of deck and are considered heavy armour
IIRC they said 4 GB?
shouldn't the quest phase cta be until 10/9? 
Getting bigger. Waning = getting smaller
does zuihou event end today or next week
next week
Are those stats for the playable version, or the fight?
Wait, missed the HP. That seems pretty hgigh for AA
You're right, it should, but it lasts until the 2nd. Maybe the event is actually only 2 weeks long.
fight
Yeah bro Nagato Meta got 1.4 million HP playable
i done mining, waiting for sam 

3ddorm prob very near
It wouldn't surprise me if it comes with the 7th anni
Yeah they were testing it in August.
ouh there's ingame help
How come
frame
@remote yarrow i got almost all 7s now i can get sum 10s but i got no more gold
Oh, that's cool
Like the gear? That's fine, +6 is decent rn
Yeah i got 7+
Gud 
I think i can get 10+ white shell tmr
Havent upgrade the blue repair kit tho ima wait till i get sum purples

Datamine 9/5 (Nagato META + new augments)
Link
FAQ
Nagato META Mechanics?
See datamine or in-game for more information.
more info coming soon tm

looks like the data is right
full writeup coming soon tm but you probably don't need a full writeup cause game will tell you cause its that simple 
SR gear is 15% drop rate, 85% purple
We got drop rate info 
tashkent buff is great, now she is a frontline option for nakhi's freeze
T2
40% rare, 60% common
T3
25% elite, 75% rare
T4
15% SR, 85% elite
why is there a new box
100% elite, sakura only. reward from prelude?
i like how they're gradually increasing META boss evasion and luck stats to artifically make them tankier
so any proposed fleets for nagaM
CV fleets are already fixed. boss movements are irrelevant because CV fleets have a sure hit - and based on the listed mechanics - there is nothing discouraging the standard airstrike timings
i guess the standard shinano/haku fleets
the only thing that might matter is if Sakura Boundary makes Nagato take less damage - in which case its timing could matter
my guess is sakura boundary is a circle on the field specifically for our ships and not for the boss, but i can't confirm this
i agree with you, but I don't know for certain
cause the description specifically mentions "our ships"
in any case, this seems like a boring meta. idk why the healing mechanic is even mentioned, idk who takes healers to meta fights.
to my understanding, the waning and waxing is meaningless?
during waning you lose HP periodically cause auto will definitely run into the zone randomly, so you could trigger stuff like manjuu before the timer is up which could be annoying
wikihow
its reminds me of arizona meta, where your vanguard could instantly die if it decides to move in a stupid pattern
Or you just use a fast vanguard
So there's no event pool right?
we still have zuihou event ongoing thats it
oh, they announced stream already?
event is 12 bcs today is prelude
thanks, i guess i missed it
Well the stream starts at 12:00 JST, but the info about new stuff is at 18:00
okie dokes, lucky that i found out this late, only need to wait 2 days now
~~Which means I'll have to either stay up or wake up at 5AM ~~ 
I still have 1 week to get zuihou right?
yes
Yep
Which shouldn't take too long, many people got the 10k points in 2 days, some even on first day
go to 
practice good behavior

sleeping is better than you just randomly "oh no i need to sleep
" in this channel for the idk how many times now
do i build haku or go to pr5
smo0tie itās past midnight itās time to sleep
do you have bps to dev30 the ships in pr5?
no do i have to have enough bp before i develop?
no but since you canāt dev30 them it doesnāt matter who you build
What has your research focus been set to exactly
I donāt think itās 4
Neither do i
oh whats focus
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research read this for ui screenshots
ooooooohhhh
nice ty guide guy š«”
Is it possible to get percrnyage activation skills like enterpriseās lucky e to 100% activation rate eventually?
nope
DAMN
maybe if they give her augment or something
so im dead to rng :/
Wait does hoodās then since hood has augment?
Btw whats max skill level?
Oo nice so all augments add percentsge to skill?
Hood's barrage used to be 70 until they gave her an augment that makes it 100
I don't think all of them do
some still have 70%
And that 30% is pretty big by today's standards sadly 
craft it
You craft it with Augment materials which you get from weekly augment raids
Oh ok
how long does it take to have blueprints reached to the point you have dev30 on ur ships
Also are time freezers really good in pvp since they allow bbs to like wipe vanguards?
Couple months
yikes
On DRs, without cubing, 2~3 months for the ones with catchup and like 3~4 months for the ones without one
for entire season
in pvp, bbs wipe out vanguards with their secondary guns, typically
youll probably be wiped out before the time stoppers proc
you can't really super focus 1 ship
WHAT
Thats crazy
Also is buying eagle tech gold box x5 for 25000 coins worth it?
Probably not
Ok
not at all
Btw is grinding the event above 10000 for taihou worth it?
What does ibuki look like post aug
For context I can only beat the second last stage
nagato meta s3 with ijn variation 2
Don't you mean Zuihou? 
push xp. go back to event next week
Oh yeah mb
Iām not even close tho. My vanguard got wiped by a 2 triangle enemy in the final stage š¢
I thought my team was alright but apparently my vanguard is weak from what Iāve seen doing pvp and pve they tend to die a lot more
nagato meta s3 without ijn
you should be significantly better by sunday
Well what should I do
highest you can do. event T2 is terrible for xp
pvp and pve are two different things, you can't really compare your fleet's performance between them 
The highest x1 stage I have takes a staggering 450 or something oil to farm once
Is that really efficient
i stg smoothie if you say "i need to sleep" again ill force you to sleep
I haven't said anything 

technically 1-1 is more exp/oil but 3-3 is a lot faster
Also 450 oil per run is normal right?
No, that's quite a lot
not really with but no oil cap so nothing can do
Try to do it on an oilcapped map
ignore oil cost, since you're new
Oh you haven't unlocked a map 
Too low
My highest is like 6-4 lol
Also what does oil cap even do?
/oilcap
Does Sam just type every guide lmao
the drop rewards of maps are fairly irrelevant. X oil for Y xp is better than Y/2 xp. You can't change what your ships cost. The only thing you can do is push them to higher maps that give more xp. Until you get to cost limit maps which changes everything but since you can't even do T3 it's unlikely there's any cost limit map you can do.
I think riceist helped in some of them 
Wait so cost limit just makes stuff consume less oil?
Sounds broken
Gotta grind ig
does ibuki barrage still have internal cd
how much skill exp do you need to go from lvl1 to lvl10?
18500
the 10s is removed i think
starting cd right
or which one
ye, though i thought it was 5s
i still didn't dig too deep yet
Thoughts on a IJN mob tank for Opsi out of these options?
Farming XP for vanguard Sakura ships in lab overnight
I've been using Unzen but she doesn't keep up with the higher world levels for tank spot. Was using Hinden without worry but she's not Sakura
Currently running Perseus, UniKai and Painleve main (sustain for days), Unzen, Shima and Kita vanguard.
Looking for something that will keep going overnight and clear as much as I can with one fleet (Opsi)
also do we know the barrage numbers? cause no IJN mugget having 100% big 7 sakura with big 7 sakura numbers would be uh
poggers
My unzen mobtank just fine in opsi lol
You can use noshiro or kitakaze in tank position (but unzen is strong enough for this if your fleet can do damage and heal)
total junk can tank C5. are you doing something wrong?
Yeah...
I have damage, most mobs take less than five seconds, the preloaded planes are usually still on screen by the end. It's just the bosses that sometimes sink Unzen and she spends the rest of the night without skills
there's no bosses in overnight ops farming...
Which bosses? Strongholds?
"Promoted Pawns"
There's gotta be something wrong with gear,level or even limit break 
If hiden was doing this just fine then so should unzen
Which UR gun in gear lab should i Prioritize?
try removing perseus, add a BB like Musashi
You can also check out #bot-spam /gearlab 
twin 100 kai low priority craft when you need
clear a C5 explorable. farm THAT C5 secured.
The one without ijn has no variations?
I mean The BB gun, I should mention it first
457
nope
basically thats the only barrage if she's not sortied to IJN?
Is there any difference in damage between variations?
seems like Tash, and Ibuki got useful UEs 
What changed with tash
š£ made a thread with the mine
restriction removal as far as I am concerned
C5 and not C6?
They are pretty much the same iirc, C5 is easier
that's correct. C5 is cheaper
It was before the pinned datamine 
how good is la 9 againts heavy?
Best Med/Heavy figher
So I guess that means pretty good 
range quite big
do i swap out 125 fs5 fdg for 120 vanny in my bb fleet with soyuz and alsace
yea
throw fried in mob
If my points are 9900, do I nees to sortie more or do they give you some daily?
one more
so the normal nano/haky comp wont rly work?
*need further testing
Does la9 intercept?
yet at least 
Can a ship equip 2 duplicate auxiliary pieces?
yes they're certain auxiliary you can equip 2 of, and there's certain ones you cannot
yes with exceptions
Anything notable to do before maint?
How about the type 1 ap shell
Type 1 AP Shell passive doesn't stack
Just the stats stack
Dunk aug feels like something designed to help her blow away event elites more easily
you can
You can equip 2 but you are better of pairing a white shell with a black one or HSFCR, AFCT
no
no higher number is the one thats active
Oh ok
this is why you use T1 w/ SHS or a HSFCR
It's in the gear guide btw you should read it
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment
*skill does not stack
same thing
for everything, unless stated otherwise
Does the ibuki augment look good? Seems to me like it makes her double preload torps a lot better
Ibuki UE should be a general improvement 

