#gameplay-help
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Me who didn't get NJ from UR Exchange😌
113 on everyone else
Sextuple bofors and almost no plane will survive
what's 113mm aa gun
Twin 113 is the roomba/UFO
I know Muse ships don't give fleet tech, but do they still give global stats at level 120?
nope, that is fleet tech
Nope
ah, Ive always referred to it as Roomba. Ty
Alsace just loses out a LOT in battles that drag too long
I'd still say Shina+Haku would be better cuz Shina's IJN buff applies to herself aswell. Besides why would you use Nakh+Haku+Soy when you can use Impla or AvP to freeze the enemy to 0 speed maximizing the damage
My bad. I thought fleet tech referred to those faction points required to be able to develop PR/DR's and to claim cog chip and array rewards
Because Nakh+Soy already freezes lol
Hmmm
And from what I remember
Soyuz Nakh Haku put out the highest theoreticals of what we tested
I see
We didn't test light armour ofc
Does Nakh buffs other CVs tho?
She doesnt
She outright has notably higher damage lol
Guess I gotta change once my Vanguard gets MLB then... bcs I am mostly coping on Plymouth without using Helena for once, without even noticing the buff for flagship
AvP for sure
Fair but it was expected
Get AvP
@atomic abyss Nakh>Impla?
To grind use Bis+Tirp+GZ
at least Soyuz got good buff if paired with 2 CV/Ls 
so is possible to use Soyuz - Nakhimov in same fleet
since Soyuz's barrage has slow
It's fine
I think that's whats intended...
think there were paper calcs back from PR7 reveal
Another theoretical we looked at was Soyuz Nakh Impla
Outright lost damage
And yeah, Nakh's freeze is contingent on having a Russian slower
Practically, there's only 3 ships
Soyuz, Chkalov, Voroshilov
Tashkent's fairy and Kron's cross are a bit cope
it's probably going to be Soyuz - Shinano/Hakuryuu - Nakhimov (anti-med/heavy)
What's the best triple CVs combo tho?
Nakh+Haku+Impla or Shina+Haku+Impla?
theres no slow there
Best triple CV against heavy is Haku+Nano+Impla
ditch Implac since Nakhimov makes any slow from any NP ship makes it a root
Nakh will not be in a triple CV comp unless Chkalov is there
Hakuryuu's best choice is Shinano in there, despite her dmg being already OP
(With Impla's freeze as well)
marginal increase in damage
Funny how we went to talk from why NJ isn't a top tier BB anymore to CVs comps with Nakh
To be fair, Chkalov+Nakh+Haku is a very strong alternative
But any Nakh comp is likely gonna shine against med more
La-9 investment for those fleets kind of sucks for marginal gains :/
My expectation is
We'll be moving away from triple CV comps into hybrid comps
Rn I'm satisfied with my comp Enty+Nano+AvP (which WILL change once I get both Haku and Impla)
Not like it's bad if built properly
The best anti light CV comp is already hybrid
And it's currently also the best anti med
Soyuz happens to shine with med
So it seems like it'll be the best anti med comp now
The issue with said anti light is, the gearing is an absolute pain
The issue with AL is the gearing
(Now is AL Anti Light or Azur Lane hmmm)
azur light
I mean, most people are not gonna have 5 HVARs
just use BB, ez
la-9's real issue is the speed
The real pog is
Soyuz doesn't need a fighter
same as skyraider
You mean the actual flight speed?
i think rld spd
reload speed
Okay good, then I understand
the moment i want to put la-9 and skyraider on a same ship, i feel headache luckily i don't actually have a la-9 now
we need a saiun pro plus max which goes like 2s-4s faster and loses less than 10% damage lol
or just move to 3 strike meta 
i didn't do the math but they might lose sync with helena at 3rd strike, at least the tb torps might 
What's a good hybrid anti-med comp and a good hybrid anti-heavy combo
22s cv lose helena sync on 2-3rd strike
Hybrid as in BB+CV?
Yeah, that's what we are talking about
Hybrid anti med is just anti light with different planes
Hybrid anti heavy doesn't exist
hybrid anti heavy is 
Damn
Oh right, I guess that's fair
Naga Haku Nano... Which doesn't have a slow
just time it to boss stop timings or pray the boss doesnt move 
just use musa + ijn carriers for heavy and calculate boss move pattern 
nagato meta will have a slow 
and same barrage as normal nagato but more cracked and 100% proc
well just use normal nagato for ultimate timing adjustment 
Why would metato even buff sakura CVs is the real question
Metato 
Magato make her sound like some western political figure
So I refuse to call her that
Nagameta
NagatoM sounds weird
Nata
namato or like nagamo sounds better imho
yum
Plus 50% more on IJN guns, shits nuts
150% proc rate? 
Nagetaaaaaaaa
make it like QE and buff anyone instead

Or like kasumi
Plus -70% rld cooldown when equipping Yamato gun cuz in her art there Is a wrecked Yamato gun
How long until we get her again?
or nagato will make META fleet usable 
Less than a week
this thursday
This week

I just thought of something
we will be cooking this time 
faction buff a META fleet?
Nagato's nickname from JP was Nagamon
Hence why her pvp comp was TenRyuuMon
Nagamom? 
I didnt know they call her nagamon in al too
long door
Oh it came from KC?
Ye
It's a poi thing then
Coz of the gap moe
I mean
She kinda went from
Loli to
Your son calls me mommy too
But yeah Nakaga and tenryuumon

Sounds like a digimon
When you were starting this it felt like there was something you wanted to go with it, but now I'm lost
She did...
Metamon shall be her nickname
Was what I was going for
JP things
Nagetaaaaa
In any case
Going back to the earlier conversation
There's currently no true hybrid anti heavy comp
Isn't La-9 the plane with the highest heavy armor damage?
I don't think a Soyuz Nakh Haku comp would top a Impla Haku Nano comp
For a fighter, I believe so
Well see
Haku and Nano can straight up use 2 slots for convergings
So can haku and nahki
for med, soyuz nakh and haku should be bis
The issue is would Soyuz do more to heavy, or would impla
Yeah I'm fairly confident of this as well
for heavy it's not good and for light well kear/yk2 works better
Why isnt for heavy good
Nakh can't carry conv x2 + tenrai is what I was considering
I doubt an LA-9 does more than a tenrai
Because the damage loss from soy is just too high to justify using her over another cv
Ig well see
Unless Nakh's damage is THAT much higher than Nano's
pilica had some calcs somewhere, not sure if anything changed but they should be accurate enough
you can dm him for more info
Nagato was worth using over a 3rd cv if target is stationary so i dont rly get it
Nagato was only used for the cv reload wasn't she
When are you talking about though
Because Nagato is that strong a buffer
The fact that she can buff carrier damage while also allow them to squeeze a 4th airstrike is not insignificant
As for Nakh, she loses a lot of damage without a Russian slower
She doesn't just lose the slow, she also loses the crit
Im not gonna make any claims since my nahki isnt done so i cant test her
But ill believe it when i see it and not papers
Fair
If voroshilov can survive long enough she could be a decent replacement over soy
At that point use Chkalov
You'd use haku/shina/nya
i saw a dalao 10 prints away to max dev nakh yesterday. you will probably see videos soon

damn
Nagamon is already taken for here in gph
which will have more value out of gold plate, +13 457 or +13 mk7
if first 457 vs first mk7 -> mk7 imo
How many classified loggers can you buy from the exchange shop every month?
Mk7 considering it's used for bossing
But +13 rainbow gun isnt high priority
So expensive
8
hii
Oh wait classified
You mean the mission ones? They don’t refresh but they’re also not limited to 1 per month
Thank you
1 time purchases yeah
7 or 8 i don't remember, all are one time forever, added more whenever dev feel like it
7
i'm new and i need help pls
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
This would be a good reference then
we should have /newbie
We got /guides anyways
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i have a problem with a log in
elaborate
any estimation about next UR banner? I need to know to save my UR bulin or mlb kronstadt 😄
do you have l2d skin as secretary and playing on multiple device by any chances
?
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we know it's a ship
JP anni stream on the 7th
Assume it's the week after
welp i guess try repair assets on top right in login screen
september?
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https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Am4y1M7wR/ this from last year, if you read Chinese...
it's five hour
ouh , looks like internet issue, try restart wifi/enable then disable airplane mode, or use VPN
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Assume 12th
okay, thanks 
i know you can watch youtube fine or whatever but just do it. sometimes your internet choose to not works on specific target
last thing u do is try to change the emulator language to japanese or korean and see
if it doesn't work #tech-support
i have a fear to lost my account
that thing is fixed long time ago
try this first, then fear about losing your account 
oke
you can contact customer service to get back your account anyway
thanks
as long as you have enough proof
oke
yeah they do. tip is if 200 aff for all backlines, carrier rld from fleet tech + cat should reach 55. consider the bacon +20 rld and avi manjuu -20 rld
Which URs have the highest damage cross-fleet barrage?
Is it bad to use xp packs to get a ship to lvl 125?
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But I can still get affinity if I use her at max level right?
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yes
oki thanks!
it's a little wasteful to use xp packs on levels above 100 tho imo
I'm leveling the URs just so you know
unless you desperately need the UR like right now
Too lazy to level Agir and I think she's worth it dumping it on her
let's say if you got a UR to 125 but not maxed affinity you'll be sortieing her anyway to get affinity, but you've wasted a lot of xp in the process
did anyone do some math about how much exp can be obtained by the mobbing fleet per opsi reset?
well consider this, you could use them all on Agir who can be leveled in W12 just fine at level 80 or so or a bunch of level 1 ships who wouldn't be
is it like 1mio exp / ship?
the question is too ambiguous
my independence leveled up like 3-4 times from 120 to 124 through mostly opsi
but that would make opsi an important source of exp right
not really
but that would equal like 2000 exp books / month
you can indeed grind a lot of exp on C1 if you felt like it... but there isn't really that much point
it's technically the most oil efficient way because you're not using any oil 
but yeah, it isn't nothing
exp book isnt exactly a hard to obtain commodity
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I don't mean like actually getting books, I mean exp in terms of books
i think veera posted a spreadsheet once, but it's really c1 grind and not really the overall opsi, so it really differ a lot depending on what you do
lemme try digging it 
so yeah I think I will stick to just level a not maxed fleet at opsi as long as I don't fail it should boost my ships by far more than running max level ships in opsi for just clearing content
if it is really around 1mio+ exp per ship
Opsi is still free xp even without c1
If u can use 5 ships in mob with unicorn
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yeah I think that's good to do since mobbing in opsi is just whatever and it is easy to just change the fleet to adjust for arbiter etc
rip exp
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fair
this is the c1 exp rough maths
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21mio exp is far more than I would expected with just 6mio exp lmao
I think veerra goes harder then most 
But 10 mil xp total is doable easily
and i think i grinded wichita meta from lv1 to lv98ish? in about a month, no c1 spam
so this is like 6k exp books+
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c1 is corrosion1 right? so not efficient cat node wise right
tl;dr: if you want free exp, just put ships that you want to level to your mob fleet+unicorn and maybe a good tank
0 cat nodes in c1
C1 doesn't have cat nodes, it's for AP box farm
yeah luckily I have to level agir so the tank is way too overpowered lmao
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ap box farm by meeting akashi and buying her stuff?
yeah, basically c1 is just trying to get akashi to appear as shop and buy the AP boxes, stack them mountain high, spend them later on
yes, but it requires a fair bit of farming to see big gains
is a ap net+ likely at c1? I didn't even know about this method
it is profitable at a large scale
It is likely but u should start with a good amount of AP
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ShBngKxqPrwciQ4tQ1zVYEBaaymbNCtNPt1V9PEKgYE/edit?gid=0#gid=0
this was the sheet used last time
numbers and shit idk, take a peek if you're interested
thanks
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I have had -800 at points
fair warning tho, this is really really tryhard territory
I will try to beat faerleins score then
I need to grind hakuryuu main fleet exp anyway
Starting with 1k AP should be very safe
Make sure your settings are correct to stop for akashi
yeah I checked
And dont buy the purple tokens or u will hit a coin deficit
the only way i can justify pushing 120-125 with books is some kind of a challenge
aside from that anything can wait
would be funny if spend 1k but setting doesn't stop for akashi
but I got only 450 ap rn
Been there 
i did 4 ships from 100 to 120 and 2 from 120 to 125 
How do I excess Exchange Shop in Operation Siren after the reset?
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Overview > bottom left
Need to finish ch4 of opsi story to unlock reset
who do more damage vs light, tai yuan or mogador?
THX a ton
My UR things didn't appear this month?
it is 1 time only

yeah i once thought as u did but yeah imagine getting 6 selectors every month from vouchers 
we wouldn't be praying for cats 
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the mission thing, complete and get UR thing

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Blue file loggers
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guys if I leave a hidden zone ( the yellow treasure symbol) before it is done, will I lose it?
yes
yes
I noticed I dont have the currency 😭 so rip 200ap
are you really sure
I got 1700 opis coins
you didn't activate logger? 
what do you mean
rip, just skip it
if you get the 5000 oil logger you'll get a bunch of coins and stuff but you'll have to activate it though the menu
nah I didn't buy it, is it worth it?
depends on how lazy you are
Dont start with hidden zones 
if you're lazy it's worth it
U can just auto them all at the end of the month
I did hidden zones because I thought I can get these coins there lmao but I got ripped
With the 1k voucher logger
rip
there's less than 24h it's not worth to buy now
what less than 24h?
ouh you just started opsi?
opsi resetted 6h ago
wait wtf it's already reset
Nagami in 32nd august 
wake up! it's the first of the month!

my AP
I got another akashi with 100ap 😭
hidden zone?
you can come back later
so while it is still uncleared she wont disappear right
explorable stays forever, if secured don't fully clear it
oh nice
also long time no see dfg
explorable will keep the zone in its first cleared state, so towers, floor nods, cat nodes, akashi, all that shit is there
just don't forget it, which happened to me and it was the next month 
I recently got these characters yesterday, but I forgot to post and ask if there any good?
unfortunately no
is mogador better than DDG vs light boss?
I need a 3rd ship for 3 cv setup for opsi. Any recommendation? I'll focus on raising them. Thinking of using enty/avp and whoever gets recommended (exclude shinano and implac)
mogador sucks 
does pittsburgh work against all armor type? is it best in slot for BB fleets
does the c1 stage matter or can I just farm here
saratoga is a candidate
you want her to be retro+augmented though
Is helena challenge easier with CV (HVARless
) or can BB work somehow?
Doesnt matter 
carriers would make it easier iirc
Is there a gimmick with BB?
Or do u just push through the dmg reduction? 
Do u use torps? And time to her window?
when farming c1 will the opsi coins deplete? or will they also pile up?
why would they deplete
As long as dont buy the purple tokens u should be fine
It might slowly dip iirc but if u burn the excess AP u get u should get most of it back
use sg to make the first proc at 16s, and time the carriers to aviod the damage reduction
is rocket better than regular fighter in opsi mob?
from #5467's vid last year. the point is all backlines oathed 200 aff, cat + tech rld at 47-55
I believe so yeah
Thx 
feels so good when i have 6 hvar
I will join u guys soon 
How worth it is the Fargo drone?
it's a +FP aux that you can put on DDs so make of that what you will
Does the event T3 give more xp then 8-4 campaign?
T3 is a better spot to farm than 8-4
push campaign or try to clear T3?
is there a commission tier list or no?
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thanks
Farm opsi/touch grass
Ahh opsi alr
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Dear commanders,
I kindly request your help regarding a problematic situation I have going on on my side. My humble self has already created a thread regarding the "situation" and would be more than happy to discuss this topic with you. In this case any help will be greatly appreciated!
Best regards,
Tobi.
Anyone here have the same experience? i first thought i wouldn't run out of oil 
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luckily oil regenerates so just wait faster
weekly pack also becomes available again tomorrow so that's +4k oil
:0..
Nelson need the pendant thinggy ?
no but it helps her make her barrage consistent right away
It's been awhile since i open OPS, when i clear a explorable zone on auto, it is paused, not continuing to search another zone. I don't remember where to turn that mechanic off or is it always like that?
reduce tb guidance in settings
Already did
you will need to buy the 5000 oil logger to enable auto clearing explorable zones
My ships are electric, they have solar panels... 😅
well you need to give more details about why it stopped, like a dialog appeared? you encountered green head cat? or you reached 200 daily pt?
Yeah
I do remember they immidiately should have changes zone after first clear back then. It confuses me.
Please sort or expand your dock... sigh story of my life...
You certain certain that reduce TB guidance is set to on? thats what completely stopped it for me, before then it was random-ish too
That’s tb guidance. You haven’t turned it off
how do i find the armor type of 12-1 boss?
turn it to on lmao, off = don't reduce, on = do reduce
it's "reduce TB guidence" so you need to turn it on
It’s “reduce TB guidance” so technically it should be “on”
wiki
Wiki or nagami’s nodes page
Thanks
anyway why is it that sometimes my opsi strategic search fleet gets stuck behind the other 3 and how do i prevent it 
I'm assuming it has something to do with the disturbance nodes where you can only move one tile but is there a way to avoid it
Stuck behind the other three?
Ah those occurrences should be fairly rare though
Anyways no way around it
Well I thought that too but I just encountered it twice in the span of ~20 minutes
if there really is no way around it then sure, what a pain lmao
Those really only show up on explorable or hidden maps so if you auto repeat on secured it won’t happen
So what's the armor type 
Same armor type as myoukyou actually has.
medium
as it says in the wiki
If a ship is the boss then her armor type is the boss armor type
For opsi bosses you can disable fleet lock and go in to see
Other than opsi, is the enemy is shipgirl, usually it's same as playable counterpart
If not see hulltype, like dd usually light armor etc
You can also tell from the hull usually
or this i guess
https://azurlane.nagami.moe/nodes
shameless self promotion smh my head
Sometimes i forgot that exist
Oh prr is nagami
Prrrr
neko da!
:3
you can see that the boss is myoukou, so it will share that armor type
2nd best db
ty
First siren reset, what items do I spend my supply vouchers on?
siren loggers > hidden loggers
where's the nodes for W15 stages?
The Strategic Search - it basically randomly explores zones with the specified parameters but for dailies, you still have to go to the zone and "auto-search"?
On the wiki?
you may set strat search to do a specific zone, but yes
Alright guys and girls, following up on my commission question from a couple days ago. The level 50 commissions requiring level 100 ships will not load a level 100 ship when pressing recommend. I have to manually place a level 100 ship. The level 100 ships are NOT in a fleet, they are doing nothing else. Why won't recommend pick up the level 100 ships?
Oh it actually has nodes. Just came back from looking at the site
after i get two tenrai from pr4, do i move onto pr5 even if my haku isn't done?
maybe because theyre at full XP and aren't awakened once?
I'd go Fs5, VERY busted for damage CV
They are max limit break and max xp.
okay so looks like ill be on pr4 for a while longer
now that you mention it... Awakening is flashing in yellow, what did I miss?
maybe Aegir Fs5 as well lol, depends if Dev feels like it later
I have googled Awakening, brb.
Check all hard mode fleets and PvP and maybe event and war archives and guild missions
Awakening had no effect. Hard mode fleets it was. I had to manually check each map and clear the fleets. Thanks everyone. 😅
Does Zuihou drop on last event stage? is it worth farming after I've completed all the point milestones?
No and no
ah ok
you get her from points milestone anyways
just complete the milestones and bail
yea I alr got her but just wondering
thanks yall
What submarines are good and work well together?
flasher, archerfish, albacore/homura
or
u-81, u-96, u-47/37
^^^^ and ldv flasher u556m is also pretty good
Which to MLB next for tech points?
Zui
iirc Tai gives more Fac Tech, but Zui tech stats its gud
Zuihou has hit the rest have AVI, or FP
Actually why MLB now for tech points when next month is likely a full IJN banner
i only have 500 right now and these gold bulins taking up space
you have 89 free slots, they aren't
I can understand purging Purple Bulins, but Golds don't need to be readily expended
need help with team for 13-4
not only full IJN, but one more UR IJN wut gives even more Tech than Gold ships
every bit is one step closer to haku
Does the bonus point stack each ship added in the event map?
No
is there any point at grinding the event stages after u get 12k points?
No, go back to farming other content like story or opsi
is there some kind of dmg testing data that compares ships per hulltype? maybe by cn players somewhere
on cn somewhere there is one, but i can assure you there isn't one on en
How do i find the monthly login page?
the wiki page that lists monthly login rewards or the in game monthly login section?
In game
From the main menu go to events (top right ish) then its one of the events on the left sidebar near the bottom, might have to scroll to see it
Ok thank you
Added
For some reason when I turn on auto search in clearing mode the auto search auto disables after the first battle. Does anyone know why?
In which map?
is zuihou good? she seems to heal a lot
Worse than Aquila and Volga
unicorn retro still way better as a primary healer
at best used as a third choice secondary healer for w14/15
Ryuuhou Pro Max

Main campaign
Which chapter?
im a new player and i dont know what to roll for?
Dock is full, ship has 0 morale, or just the low chapter auto search bug that nobody knows the cause of
you don't roll for anything at the moment
save your cubes, do 1 light build a day
why :]
If it's high chapter then maybe your submarines got wiped out
because event banners with limited ultra rares are far more important
1
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
also consider reading this

what exactly am i reading here
Ye I have
Spending cubes on permanent banner isn't worth, save for limited banners
Pins explain why limited this time isn't worth pulling
as the title says, a guide for new players, to help them build an early fleet that does not cost cubes
tldr it cost 1 cube to build light pool, and there is daily mission to build one ship that gives 1 cube, so 1 light build per day is "free"
rn there's no event banner, the odds of pulling now and getting anything worthwhile/usable is low. save for event banner coming soon which will almost certainly have ships worth pulling for, and with rate up
Read the boss skills
Boss skills are listed on the right on a separate tab from the helper player scores
INTERESTING !!!
it would be a problem without the right fleet comp
The fog is why you need different vanguard considerations compared to other meta ships
cause the longer you are in the fog you die
Is it worth it to craft the 234mm main CA gun? Rainbow
After you have maybe two 457mms, and (have zero PR6 CA guns or have 1 or 2 spearfishes)
I'm not qualified enough on this sorry 
higher speed in the frontline
so shimakaze is one of the best options for a DPS
as is gear like the beaver badge
Yes the boiler aux was very common
the rest of the gear is pretty typical
I ran that with a main fleet of Musashi, Shinano, and Hakuryu
Is it still worth making Spearfishes if I have 4 Wyverns?
in short, more DD/CLs, and avoid slower CA/Bs
My understanding is that the two planes are sidegrades, maybe slightly better than the other in different situations
Your understanding is correct
I'm also not sure about 457mm main guns. I thought there are other main guns you want for timing purposes most of the time
not really
Just know that drek gun is always an improvement over gold CA guns
457 is often the best gun for campaign
best BB gun for campaign, or mobbing in general
...well unless your name is musashi
Only have one currently, maybe I should go for a second one
And a single 457 is also good for showdown if you don't have reload tech or fast UR BBs
Tho i have heard still good, despite worse barrage
Wasn't really gonna do much with a Drake gun anyways tbh, I was just gonna give it to Blucher. Meanwhile this main gun seems like it could help me down the line with end game content
would u +13 a 2nd 457 over guam and unzen gun
i would
Backline damage takes precedence, right? So yeah, I agree here
Unless you are specifically preparing for something like Mirov that wants front line damage
its not so simple as backline dmg over vanguard
What are the factors to take into account?
How often you use the second 457 vs how often you use any CB
CBs almost always use Guam gun, and Guam gun is unlikely to be power crept anytime soon
Fair enough, I guess. But wouldn't you use two 457mm's on two UR BB's in main campaign?
If you don't Musashi then yes
But +13 champ gun for boss is good too, don't necessarily need another 457
Haven't really kept up with what the standing of UR BB's is, but I assume then that even after Soyuz and Alsace Musashi still remains top tier in that category
Aside from that, what about that UR DD gun? It's used by Laffey 2 in PvE as well as PvP AFAIK, meanwhile Guam doesn't see use in PvP, just PvE, and just plane content at that
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
SHOULD I FOLLOW EVERYTHING THE GUIDE SAYS?
we dont do pvp prios here 
and to be fair plane content is currently the furthest point in the main campaign, but who can say things will stay that way going forward
and if u mean mogador gun then its used by every dd that doesnt disregard gunning not only laffey 2
I mean the one that can be crafted in the gear lab
are u asking if its +13 worthy?
Pretty much, yeah
meh
no because mog gun exists
Which is mogador gun?
twin 138
The one that comes from her event
Thanks
basically yes except for ship/gear choices if you have better ones, which you probably dont if you just started now but if you somehow have better ships/gear than the suggested beginner ones then use them instead
Oh also mail got updated so i need to fix that section
Should it be shortened to 138 or rounded to 139?
Do we get 7 strongholds this month? 
What if the one 457mm I have is at +10? Should I forget about any frontline UR main gun for now and just +13 that?
No? If you are broke asf 457 has almost no prio
depends on frontline gun and what content ure prioing
Well, all I have left to do is just W13 hard mode
took a really long break from the game what's the current best gear i should know about
well w13h is beby mode compared to w15 so then u could do 1 guam gun/ 1 ply gun over 457
if you did 15 then 13h is not a consideration
took like a 4-5 months off i think?
well Mk7 is now in the lab and we have a new UR rocket fighter courtesey of PR7
I assume Laffey2 and Guam would still be top picks for the mobbing fleet. Though I'm not taking into account stat requirements, and I kinda assumed those alone would make this comparable to W15
if there is new event-limited best gear that got released in the time you were away, then you don't have it. And there was not new best permanent gear.
oh and you missed Vanguard's rerun and the chance at a 2nd Table and the new Improved Quad mags which are the best torps for auto
w13hm isnt comparable
, mby with 15-1 at best
and yea guam and laffey would be top
That's good to hear then. Maybe I can do it with relative comfort
unlucky
im sure u can
And Laffey 2's best gun is still that craftable UR DD gun, right? Or is that spot taken by the Mog gun?
mog but mby theres a better mog gun user in ur fleets

I figured Mog herself would be its best user, so it kinda felt wrong to not give the one copy in existence to her
But currently I'm not using Mogador for anything, either
gear sitting on ships in dock is deadgear, use it on ship ure actively using
anything new for frontline?
well, Mogador gun if you weren't around for the CN Anni
I still have yet to confirm the best fleets for w13h, to be honest. Putting aside stat requirements, should I just copy-paste what I did for w15, and then fill in the stat requirement gaps from there?
u can do that and with the respective hull restriction considerations
Is best way to craft tech packs to legenda du before opening them?
u can only upgrade techboxes to purple
But is this actually the best one can do in w13h? Maybe it's still fine, but I'm taking into consideration that I will do a bunch of 13-4 runs to passively farm Bunker Hill copies, so it helps to bring the best thing for the most consistency (i.e. least death)
Oh ok
yes, just use a proper boss fleet and not the xfleet bossfleet for mob-boss-mob strat and ull be fine
I should probably mention what I used for w15: Bis2, Aquila and Unikai + Guam, Laffey2 and Shimanto as the mob fleet, and Musashi, Volga and York2 + SandyKai, Anchorage and JdA as the boss fleet
Should become safe threat eventually so will be super easy 
pair aquila with musashi on boss instead and ure good to go
To further confirm, I remember Indep being BiS for the regular W13, but to be fair, that was a long time ago now. Has she been outclassed?
idk what was BiS for w13 but shes stil a good ship, u can use her on mob instead of bz if u want or dont, either way those fleets will win unless u grief their gear
idk if theres a BiS
At this point, I guess it just becomes a matter of how to stomp it even harder
Then enough said, a stomp is a stomp. Thanks for the input
hello in world 15 suppprt fleet dose it matter if i level up my flapjacks?
fighters should be +10, avi sticks plane (tb/db) can be any +, avi sticks auxes and augs should be lvled aswell
can a lv125 ship contribute to the pr exp research ?
/prgrind yes
thamks
oh also the amount of ship also contributes right? like 3 ship vanguard is 3x more exp than 1
oh also why flapjack is a sidegrade almost better than tigercat
its a sidegrade cause it does about the same damage
It has a much shorter interception reload time (and maybe because it flies slower too), so it's better at killing planes
so if i have tigercat/seahornet lying around i should use it and not craft new flapjacks right
if we have an UR converging torp bomber with some reasonable increase in utility/damage do you think its better than the rocket UR atm?
We don't care about this hypothetical
would I be happier if I were rich but also terminally ill
ok

which one
from hard mode
/coredata
never seen this before, what sr can this give
and keyword is 'may find' its not 100% a sr, dont ask me how I found out 
I am pretty sure the SSR that that can give are from the base game only, but ya you're likely not seeing an SSR, or any ship for that matter from it
and when I say base game I mean the old old shit
is there a bb and cv reload time calculator that gets updated with new gear quickly and is in English?
Anyone know when the character interacting feature will come that they talked in 6 anniv live stream?
Soon™

But they haven't announced a date afaik so only time will tell
Hopefully not to long
it looks pretty cool 
If I clear all enemies but not the boss and I retreat, does that count as clearing all enemies?
no
for the second star it counts
for anything else no
One question, does the second star ship amount increase a lot later in campaign. Its already at 35 where i am. 

next opsi meta ship is nagato, right? will she be in game right after wichtia ends or after the maint as well?
X-1 is 30
X-2 is 35
X-3 is 40
X-4 is 50
With X being any W9+ map
Lower ones have lower requirements
50... 
I mean at later campaign stages there are ships that only drop from these stages so it is really unlikely you just need to kill ships 50 times 😭
A damn
it's not like il be there anytime soon
but it is actually worth to farm any stage so it's alr
What ship is next to research? From pr 6 and 7
iirc it doesn't matter at that point bc you will lack blueprints anyway
so just start whatever
Yeah i could get it later but tell me what ship should o research next
I think halford is the best to start first in pr7
maybe felix for pr6
if you are close to have enough blueprints to dev30 a ship soon just prio that ship
Im just grinding the last pr4 tenzan because I got 2
personally I'll switch my pr focus to 5
after second tenrai
but I never used tenzan
Big doubt on that when Shimanto is a thing
Oh nvm she's obtained already
Tho tbh at that point it doesn't really matter
Finish chapter 4 before reset
If you failed to finish chapter 4 you need to wait a month
whats the pr equipment tier list again?
afaik we dont have a tierlist for that here
we only have the different shop prio
unless it is a CN thing 
I haven't properly touched the game in a long and I wanted to know which 2 more efficient fleets I could build with the ships I currently have (assuming they're all lvld up and properly geared ofc) idk how much the fleets should change depending on the content but I was looking to start progressing operation siren
all help is appreciated
is any of the shima / shinano/ nj mlb , i cant see the stars
my bad
dont spread out bulins, 1 mlb ship is better than 3 non mlb ships
i think he just uses the first 2 rows and sandy 
8-3
but so far i'm still cruising through it lol
ig warspite unicorn sara - roon u z23 laffey
nagato akaga - portland helena sandy
but go and grind 12k pts in event if u havent alr yet, afterwards push asap to w12
thankies
make sure to use the proper poverty gear on them 
Mob: warspie unicorn sara room z23 sandy
Boss: Nakaga portland helena laffey
Tip: never ever use non mlb ships
** Crickets *
is Virgo CM hard possible on auto without rainbow ships?
I would say yea
or what budget fleets did people use
The cm rotation is month based right? Like the march cm this year will be the same as march cm next year?
yes

are 20s cvs budget
if the devs don't change anything
All of a sudden, whenever I return to port then enter a new menu, the ship who on my home screen changes. Any idea on how to fix this?
does the pool for what units show up in the merit shop change, like could eldridge get taken out at any point or am i safe to buy the sr bulin?
Disable random secretary or use only 1
they have never removed ships from the pool
It can change but highly doubt eldridge will ever be removed.
Zuiho event lasts two weeks right?
Havent been grinding much recently since i've been sidetracked by other things
yes
takes like a day to hit 10k 
I didnt see an akashi in 400ap, I think I am doing something wrong at c1
––bad rng––
Do you have stop autosearch on 
yes I even checked
Yeah then rng i guess, unlucky
does akashi have higher spawn rate at c1?
nah just cheaper
Probs same spawn rate but more spawn chances since C1 is so cheap
So whats the deal with c1 farm? You cope akashi for ap boxes so you can stack them high and use them on other things?
Essentially yes
u cope to make profit
It’s like cryptomining fr
No thats just dumb
or u are just unlucky like me and spend more ap than u get from it
people did warn u im p sure
nah
that it takes a long time and initial investment
Dont be the 90% of gamblers that stop before they make it
wait so if you can profit ap, doesn't that mean u can endlessly farm c1?
yes
u can endlessly farm c1 if you are lucky enough
in reality you stop earlier to then dump it in c3 or c5 (or even c6)
How much ap do you need to get started with c1 slot machine
1000 to be safe iirc
people told me around 1k
Ok sounds fun
but ask @undone plover he copes more with it
faerlein told me 1k
my arizona started at lvl 77 in slot machine and is lvl 85 now so I am coping
with faerlein kind of luck, you can get started with just 5 AP
my worst was -800
that is why I said 1k is safe 
i am not responsible if u are unlucky 
nah I am believing
Ngl I read this and thought it was about cubes
Anyone know what the update was about?
there was an update?
Idk I just got back and had to dl 55MB
nope
when did u last log in
Uh 5h ago?
i got a 55MB like 3 days ago
yeah same
strange
Do all event ships come for reruns?
What’s a raid event?
Also are jp and en events different?
JP, CN, and EN are all caught up
3 ship event banner + server wide boss fight
Ah so the ships from those are one time only
they are eventually added to perma banners and/or various shops
No
they just skip the rerun portion and get added to the permanent pools
Ohhh alright
general rule is the first level in a world map is for XP and the fourth is for coin ?
Kinda yeah
What weapon do you run on eldrige retrofit
Shigure worth retrofitting or nah?
Though -1 is also a lot easier than -4, so often worth going for even if you need coins, eg 13-1 has better cogs than 12-4 and not rly worse coins while 13-4 is quite hard (Though 13-1 is still quite a step up in difficulty compared to 12-4)
Nah she's bad with or without it
rainbow 138.6 is the best, but other ships may have higher priority for it
I slow to reach new level nowadays , mostly because of having to spend a lot of oil to reach 4 
What next cuz I don't have one yet
next best is the 100 kai
have you done 10k in event for zuihou?
wouldnt twin 100 kai be better cause aoa
When there are enemies all over the place perhaps
don't underestimate 30 FP and focused damage
is twin 100 the rainbow dd gun on gear lab?
how so rich
i still use twin 127mm on most of my dds kekw
Which one of the gold guns is best
You play opsi you get gearlab mats simple
when is jp anni stream?
I haven't seen that twin 138 in the gear lab , event gun ?
Mogador gun from alsace event
yeah from alsace event
Sept 7th
I'm gonna guess twin 114mm from that cuz of her aoa
(note; The gameinfo start 6h into stream)
is the triple 406 good?
Which
Purple
..which purple triple 406
I'm gonna assume you're talking about the MK6 and the answer is yes it's good
dis one
Yes it's good but next time please refer to it as the MK6 cause we have a plethora of Triple 406s
dont upgrade it to +11 
keep at +10
how is mogador damage compared to hinden or unzen?
Your comparing DD to CA
that doesn't answer my question
Does that?
impressive but lower than what I thought
I remember someone said mogador is comparable to hinden in some aspect
Are people done with nakhimov
~~if ppl = yuni maybe
~~
should I +13 halford plane?
waste of plates quite honestly 
tiny tim fighter when 

Can you increase cattery capacity?
with gems, in the shop
is the gold rarity suisei dive bomber from the current event worth it? Im about to be able to craft it from farming the event currency.
i wouldnt grind event after zuihou 10k
well more oil for 9-1 level farming then
it's worse than purple sb2c helldiver
You mean 11k for 5 gold plates 
i dont care abt that, but you can get it if u want

Which one?
Depends , usually shinano tho
I got uni, independence, and shouhou
Shinano
NJ can easily be sidelined, shinanos 2 teammates are easily available in the same season along with some of her bis gear
Not to discount NJ's great performance, but shinano is just more potent and worth it considering the amount of UR BBs that exist that just simply do her job better
My ship prio is Friedrich... Alright I'll take Shinano... Thank you bros
The answer is yes
Yes
Is there any fight in 14-4 that's 120s long
The boss fighting if you're fleet isn't well built guess
I mean like timer time
But even that would really be pushing it
arent campaign stages like 4 mins long
Shouldn't be as far as i know
So I guess this stuff is another abandoned concept
Thanks
Wait nvm that number is for the rank...wtf why they do it 2 time
Which mainship from sua should i limit break (fleet tech as well main ship points)
Or should I get other ships too?
I would do purples because purple bulins is easier to get
And yes try to get ships from drops
Like what
What is the best bb cl gun if i don't have nepgun?
plymouth gun
else 155
Lacking the better alternatives from gear lab etc
If we talking about poverty, twin 150mm
Thoughts on buying firebrand with core data vs crafting from purp? I currently clear W10H, so I make 72 data per day.
How usable are the British purple dual 150s as BB secondaries W12 and beyond?
the box turret
not usable
if you already gotten the priority items from core data, and saving electronics for other gear, sure
Doesn't matter for w12 and 13 - almost no suicide boats there
W14 it's 155 Kai or plygun or bust really
ultimately it's core data vs gear lab materials, whichever you value more
What are the priority electronics gear lab items?
UR stuff, like wyvern
I see the Iris Libre AA gun, Wyvern, and Flapjack as the only circuit board recipes I think I need. Am I missing anything? To be fair, that’s proabably enough that I’d be willing to devote 11 days of core data to it.
alot of the good things need circuits
Ryuusei and Ju tbs
You won't need the UR AA gun for a long time
Are those worth crafting? I have 2 saiun Kai’s since I’m on PR4 focus, and I see another converging torp bomber in PR7
In order to sync your carriers with your slowers
There's a high chance you need different converging TBs
Help on building a mob fleet and boss fleet.
heres a list of stuff that need electronic circuits, green is good to craft when needed and blue are intermediary needed for some of the gear
as always its best to know when you need something before crafting it
this is also used, but not for its capability, but the fact that it gives FP 
What does the triangles in the levels on the top left of mobs mean?
Simply put, the difficulty level
More triangle = more exp
Ohh ok
The enemy "size" more triangle have more enemy/wave
What is that fist UR gun? Not that I have any UR gun recipes…
Seems like it’s generally AA and planes, which lines up with what I was feeling.
Regarding AA, I saw some Reddit posts about just going full Roomba. Is that viable, just to only craft gold roombas and maybe 6bofor for exceptional carries?
it's viable, until w15 
If the Champy Gun and the Soyuz Gun is good for Medium and Heavy Armor bossing? What's the alternative for the Light Armor Alternative? The SAP Sardegna Empire one? Or its definitely the Purple Triple 406 mk6?
Without UR ones btw
Is there any reason to save xp boosts or should I just used them?
Thnks for the answer 
SP is just 800 1x this event?
save for ships that you wanna level boost from lv1 to x lvl to survive the content
Always MK6, no other alternatives for bossing
If you absolutely have nothing else, purple twin 410, but that doesn't work with the mk6 timing wise
thanks
SAP is purely tailored for Medium Armor
twin 457mm, premium mobbing BB gun for w13+, also uses T3 ordnance plans which you get one a month by doing opsi
Is it bcs the weapon Modifier of it is just 100% against light armor and there are other better ones?
Alr 
Priority for those is probably the EU BB gun? Triple 406 mk7?
for electronics is wyvern first
For UR BB gun, 457 is higher priority
For electronics, yes 2 wyvern before anything else
The ECTL discord mentioned Breguets as an alternative to wyverns. Thoughts on what the trade off is/value?
Far less damage for increased accessibility
in 14-4 is this the only one mob that always spawn(except clearing mode of course)
baguette is better than barracuda but worse than wyvern
Breguets are not "alternatives" to wyverns
They're straight up downgrades
yes always
Not worth buying if don't have, if have use it it's good
I need to reword, is there any mob like that other than that one
what was the fleet people used for helena cm again
The "alternative" here probably refer to the fact that it can intercept. So it kinda like budget wyvern
That would be my guess
I do think it's misleading
But yeah it's worse than wyvern dmg wise
So what, Eldrigde Meta replaces Agir or something?
No, absolutely not, she's not a tank lol
Not meta, Retro
Even if she was a tank, she's not gonna replace Agir
She makes other ship tanky, support
She's a tank support and a slow support
she helps with survivability but isnt a dedicated tank
Like jda i guess
Think of her as a better Jeanne yes
Ah, so nothing meta changing or anything then?
As opposed to meta changing, it's more of meta alternatives
It makes current META fight fleet more stable
Gotcha
Other than that idk, maybe next fight needs her for one shot
she got a resurgence in pvp, i guess
She's the strongest against subs now
Wait, would she replace Aurora? For York fleet
No, she isn't a damage support
She's only gonna replace aurora or whoever if you need the tankiness
If anything, Aurora might actually WANT to be with Eldridge so she herself doesn't die
Thought her slow would be better than Roras evasion debuff, but aight
But your york2 fleet should already have a freeze
Oh right, I forgot AvP existed
do you not have implac?

Slow and evasion debuff is just a different types, not equal at all
She's on the Shinano team
my game is bugged
the good ol method: restart your game
Is there all 9 variation of enemy in 14-4?
i returned to my game after over 12 hours and so sortie is supposed to be expired but i was still in the chapter and couldn't start any other chapter
Dd/cv/bb 1-3 star
it's fixed thanks
maybe not
Maybe? This world requires much less AA stats than 13 and 15
I didn't do much 14-4 so i expect people here knows more than me
And it's server side 
Does flag sub matter?
Yes
Or do I just pick my favorite 
Based on barrage and skill iirc
What changes? I’ve never used subs until now trying to figure them out
Based on who you use
Which IJN DD is has skill that ups the damage of CVs
none in w14
I’m using Herring, U-31, and U-37 is my flag sub. I know Herring and 31 are probably not very good but I really like them 
Kazagumo
Thanks
does hsfcr/table bonus first reload work with alsace?
for brest should i use a twin 135 or a single 138.6 for the iris libre gear buff?
yes, preload doesn't use up the first reload bonus (someone correct me if im wrong)
Well, I wouldn't bother using them if that's your sub fleet tbh, but pick the one that isn't straight up bad 
thanks
the iris aa
Trying to find the skill that adds the 30% on Aux for Eldridge. Is it just innate?
