gameplay-help

[warm latch]

no but what chapter is it for

[half basalt]

mostly general

[atomic abyss]

it looks to me you jusst cobbled rainbows together randomly

[half basalt]

13-3

[eager mulch]

called it

[stark quiver]

There’s no general, what campaign map are you on right now
I see

[half basalt]

its possible

[atomic abyss]

that hinden sucks for example - not mlb

same with that fdg

[half basalt]

u think i should get vanguard into fleet 1 and develop plymouth?

[eager mulch]

[warm latch]

only one carrier in your mob fleet

[half basalt]

the blueprints take years lol

[atomic abyss]

no, you should focus on finishing the development of ships you ALREADY have

[onyx chasm]

This is the formation I need right?

[eager mulch]

W13 wants AA, you’re using non dev30 ships which is bad

[half basalt]

oh ok

[remote yarrow]

Then don't use undeveloped ships

[atomic abyss]

yes
indiana and portland to the middle, use the exp books

[onyx chasm]

These?

[half basalt]

i need to invest in a better aa for guam but is it worth developing laffey 2 or san diego for the world

the fleets can clear w13 up to the boss basically

[onyx chasm]

Alr

[stark quiver]

They’re always worth investing in

[half basalt]

Sandy or laffey2 priority, do u know?

[atomic abyss]

you will need laff2 and san diego for w15 anyways

sandy

[stark quiver]

Yea I could tell why, that boss fleet has like no AA

[half basalt]

ight i guess ill go fix my sandy

[eager mulch]

sandy and laffii don’t take the same bulins

[half basalt]

replace hinden for now because my hindens gear is abysmally bad, im using an atago gun on her 💀

[remote yarrow]

Well it wasn't because of her gear, it was because she's not Dev 30

[half basalt]

yeah thats why ima do sandy first, i need to see what the next UR is and work a lil bit on my vanguard before I level laff2

[remote yarrow]

Same with FdG

[half basalt]

wait will the difference be dramatic if i dev30 fdg because i have the coins and shes like dev 28 rn

actually im halfway to dev 30 from dev 29 might as well

[warm latch]

just do the 10 a day

[stark quiver]

Well yea, but dev her overtime honestly

[eager mulch]

I think >33% damage is significant

[atomic abyss]

yes, it'll increase her damage by at least 30% lol

[half basalt]

Nahh im gonna spend the 170k to do it now

[remote yarrow]

Please don't

[stark quiver]

Please don’t bud

[tame jungle]

[onyx chasm]

How do i use exp books

[half basalt]

WhY?1!!1?!

[eager mulch]

quite shrimply a bad move if I do say so myshelf

[tame jungle]

Good things come to those who wait

[stark quiver]

It’s a complete waste and you aren’t in need of devving her

[remote yarrow]

Cuz it's a pretty stupid idea to use 170k coins for something you can just wait for way cheaper

[warm latch]

7.2k coins a day if you do 10 a day

[half basalt]

Whats the point of saving 200k coins more than i need for any UR event

[atomic abyss]

tap on the level bar after selecting a ship

[half basalt]

I have 700k rn tho and its just collecting dust

[stark quiver]

Well researched > cats > and other stuff that takes coins

[half basalt]

Ohh yeah cats

[stark quiver]

You have 700k? Well I guess you cannnnn
Still not worth to most tho

[onyx chasm]

What level should all my ships roughly be

Just so I don't overdo

[half basalt]

Now im realizing i need to get better cats as well

[remote yarrow]

well 700k is a lie since the cap is 600

[atomic abyss]

since you're at w5, 50+ for now, maybe 60

[half basalt]

Well i wont spend the coins to fate sim fdg

[onyx chasm]

Alr

[worldly pewter]

seeing that u are doing fdg and sitting on so much coins means usually 1 thing
u aren't doing research ( or efficiently )

[half basalt]

yeah i realized a bit ago, i dont have the required IJN backline to efficiently research haku so im working on royal navy tech points to start plymouth because i have too many PR5 packs

[onyx chasm]

I should also probably get gear on them but these are all I have

[worldly pewter]

missions and research are 2 separated mechanics
u can get the ship but at low dev levels she won't be doing much

[half basalt]

oh yeah thats true

[onyx chasm]

And I'll need to level skills but idk which

[worldly pewter]

u have to do research for the prints
and also the gear bp

[half basalt]

Is black shell or white shell better to buy first

Where can i find what main gun i should be using because i have no clue

[eager mulch]

#bot-spam /equip

[onyx chasm]

Got any clue which skills I level?

[stark quiver]

All of them

[half basalt]

ty

[timid beacon]

Any better way to get these?

[eager mulch]

unironically, no

[half basalt]

the gold ones are my worst enemy

[stark quiver]

They are everyone’s

[half basalt]

aww for gods sake i just realized i need em for the rainbow aa gun rip

[timid beacon]

If I’m already having trouble with this I can’t imagine gold ones!

[onyx chasm]

Do i bother purchasing these extra two slots?

[tame jungle]

Nah

[onyx chasm]

Aight cuz 1k is tragic to see go

[half basalt]

Nah u can get a decent amount from arbiter and opsi

[stuck coyote]

any of the pr6 Fate simulations prio over others or not really? Can feed all my pr6 selectors into 1 rn

[stark quiver]

Shimanto

[onyx chasm]

Who do i prioritise with good gear first cuz I dont have much

[half basalt]

for backline or vanguard

[timid beacon]

What’s this arbiter

[sweet delta]

According to my research, Zuihou's 10s barrage is pretty much one +10 Barracuda with 140% efficiency. So in terms of total damage, She is like 3 fighters and less than 5 TBs on very low AVI, putting her damage worse than healer Aquila and better than unicorn per strike but much worse than unicorn with preload

[stark quiver]

Final boss of opsi

[half basalt]

for backline prioritize uni and indiana, unicorn really just needs 2 steam catapults

[onyx chasm]

Where do i get those

[timid beacon]

Well I’m still fairly new so I can’t really do Corrosion 5

[half basalt]

lemme remember rq

[timid beacon]

I doubt I can do that

[onyx chasm]

Np

[stark quiver]

Tech boxes/crafting

[onyx chasm]

This is all i have

[half basalt]

Oh yeah all gold and rainbow tech boxes

make sure to always do the fierce assault daily raid whenever its avaliable for the boxes

[onyx chasm]

Ok

[oak cipher]

What the best between those 2 for Agïr ?

[half basalt]

right is a CA gun, the left one is better im pretty sure

[elfin hollow]

@onyx chasm Where'd you get this from?

[onyx chasm]

Got it during her event

[elfin hollow]

Ah

[onyx chasm]

Also found this

[stark quiver]

Tempesta event

[onyx chasm]

Which do I pick cuz I get a character

[elfin hollow]

ty, I am trying to get one for royal fortune

[stark quiver]

You can get kazagumo

[onyx chasm]

Are they good?

Like better than the rest?

[oak cipher]

Well take the one you don't have xD

[onyx chasm]

I have none of these

[stark quiver]

Kazagumo is one of the best cv support

[tame jungle]

Take gumo

[oak cipher]

then yeah like the other said Kaza

[onyx chasm]

Alr

[worldly pewter]

are u going for w15 soon ?

[stark quiver]

UR aa isnt needed in 15

[worldly pewter]

for me it was very needed

[stark quiver]

i made it out the trenches with 1

[worldly pewter]

+13 too

[sweet delta]

It's not needed if your account is very good or ||you 🕹️ ||

But is he even past chapter 13 yet

[half basalt]

Should I work on vanguard or wait to see what the next UR is

[worldly pewter]

how can || 🕹️ || help AAing without it

[half basalt]

Because if the next UR is yamato i wanna max her out asap but if its amagi 2 ill probably work on vanguard

[viscid swift]

well you just answered your own question then

[stark quiver]

bruh coping too hard for amagi 2

[half basalt]

I want yamato 😦

HOLY the dev 30 fdg made a difference ty guys

[little tree]

isnt dev 30 like +40% dmg?

[whole crypt]

something like that, basically the same for most BBs because of gun mount

[sweet delta]

If you use a really bad gun and only rely on her barrages, the gain is much smaller 🧠

[lavish eagle]

Do you get a bonus for each of the ships listed in the event or is there a cap on event points you can earn per sortie? I don’t have musashi and haven’t built my mikasa and daisen.

[sweet delta]

You get the same bonus for 1 or 5 of the bonus ships

[viscid swift]

you get 50 additional points for defeating the boss fleet in T3 with one in the fleet, you don't get any more by using more of the mentioned ships

[lavish eagle]

Sweet, thank you

[little tree]

Is the flapjack better then golden f6f hellcat ?

[stark quiver]

yes a lot better

[little tree]

Is there a page that explain stats on gear I can't tell by looking at the 2 in game

[stark quiver]

uhhhh not that i know of
but someone in gph prolly has one

[little tree]

Gotcha

[forest palm]

are you asking how to read the stats on the card?

[stark quiver]

im pretty sure its something about speed and how if it stays in the air longer = more AA

oh yea and also 2x1000 lb bombs on flapjack compared to 2x500

[polar lion]

Does T3 drop the loli?

[forest palm]

like the wiki has a fair bit of information here

[remote yarrow]

Nope, you get her from 10k milestone

[polar lion]

Oh okay

[little tree]

Like the nuances of the splash radius if that matter how much is that extra 2 or 3.

[viscid swift]

there is no guide for that

[little tree]

Ahh

[viscid swift]

it's really to difficult to put into words on how to read ship and gear stats in AL

it's something that takes years of trial and error basically to refine and even then the best still get stuff wrong and some things you just need to see in practice

[little tree]

So it's based off data of repeated runs gotchs

[keen sable]

But you can

[viscid swift]

kinda
like here's one page on bomb spread
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BombSpread

[slim hinge]

Are there no points gained from clearing TP stage?

[remote yarrow]

Just a 1 time mission reward

[slim hinge]

So no choice but to grind T3 after that.

[forest palm]

it's like 280(w/ bonus ship) a run with a relatively decent oil cost, so it should be like 36 runs

[viscid swift]

200 with the bonus

so that's 46 runs assuming you cleared SP

to get Zuiho

[forest palm]

easily doable in a day

[keen sable]

TP is 1800?

[viscid swift]

800

[keen sable]

Maybe I just can't do math in my head

[polar lion]

Wat are the bonus ships again?

[forest palm]

Akagi + Kaga + Zuikaku + Musashi + Mikasa(?)

oh, and Daisen

[elfin hollow]

• Zuihou too iirc.

[polar lion]

Aight thanks

Do I hab to use them all or just use either 1 to get bonus pts?

[forest palm]

just 1 in boss

[polar lion]

Aight

[rich pewter]

Are these worth farmin for shinano and implacable

👍 thx

[blissful hamlet]

is TP equivalent for SP stage?

[eager mulch]

no

[elfin hollow]

TP is a 1 time clear for 800 points.

[blissful hamlet]

800 points per day?

[elfin hollow]

Once.

[blissful hamlet]

any low oil that can do SP? uni and laffey2 doesn't work

[plain saffron]

0 oil cost

[blissful hamlet]

what

[elfin hollow]

You shall not farm TP.

[plain saffron]

It's like an EX stage, but without being hard like EX

[elfin hollow]

It gives nothing after the first clear.

[blissful hamlet]

[forest palm]

[blissful hamlet]

is DDg the lowest oil vanguard that can do T3?

[wind hazel]

havent tried unicorn mahan, but ddg is one of the lowest

[blissful hamlet]

but you get less points with unicorn

[wind hazel]

what are you using then

[blissful hamlet]

akagi and DDG

[sweet delta]

:serenity:

[wind hazel]

leander is 1 oil lower than ddg

[blissful hamlet]

can she do T3 tho?

[wind hazel]

why dont you go try it

[blissful hamlet]

I don't have 120 leander

[sweet delta]

🧠 using 22 oil 1:1 fleet on T3

[wind hazel]

akagi is 13 oil already anyway

+ddg 9 is 22..... which is the mob oil cap

[blissful hamlet]

what you mean there's oil cap?

[sweet delta]

Literally

[wind hazel]

brother, i thought the whole asking is lowering it lower than the oil cap

[blissful hamlet]

nobody told me

[sweet delta]

The game told you , you chose to ignore it

[blissful hamlet]

if an average player aren't properly informed I wouldn't blame the player

[sweet delta]

You're not an average player then

[wind hazel]

wot

also if you want oil pts efficiency, t3 is not what you're looking for

[plain saffron]

If the average player can't read what the game tells you then yes i would blame the player

[blissful hamlet]

where?

[viscid swift]

low cost T2

[blissful hamlet]

without the bonus ship?

[viscid swift]

yes

[blissful hamlet]

[cosmic palm]

Hi. I'm a bit new to AL (Started in May). Is there a good guide for gear and what to go for? bc I have a lot of blueprints for y-tier guns and auxes

[sweet delta]

what is y tier?

[cosmic palm]

Yellow Tier
I didn't know what else to call it

[sweet delta]

/equip you can check the pictures

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[sweet delta]

Not all Gold or SR is better than purple

[cosmic palm]

Mm. I see. I will have to brush up on my weaponry. Thx fir the resources

[drifting panther]

Question, What is the best main gun I can put in San Diego Retrofit?

[copper ermine]

just wondering because i hear mid to late game used a lot, what would be considered late game?

[sweet delta]

Rainbow 138.6, but only if there are no higher priority ships who want it

[sweet delta]

Different people have different definitions. I'll say chapter 14+

[drifting panther]

This triumphs and overpowers any gun?

[sweet delta]

For most DD gun slots yes it's the best

[drifting panther]

Thank you very much, I'll put it on her and max that thing. San Diego's one of my favorite ships and I've only been using the Single 138.6 on her

[sweet delta]

Yes, Single 138.6 is pretty bad for Sandy because it's slow and inaccurate

[drifting panther]

This is the one right?

[sweet delta]

Probably keep it at +10 because gold plates should be spent on good BB guns first

[drifting panther]

Gotta 13 it so Sandy can be great again.

[drifting panther]

Already at 13 for all of them.
I'm a very late game player who barely knows about stats

I saw just now Sandy was not doing as much damage in world 15 compared to other characters and decided to look at the bottom of this

[calm notch]

Does anybody here know how the event bonus works?

[drifting panther]

Thank you for the advice though.
And yes, I mostly save gold plates for main BBs and CVs and WAIFUS.

[sweet delta]

If the fleet that defeats the boss contains a bonus ship, you get bonus points. Using multiple bonus ships only gives the same bonus as using one bonus ship

[calm notch]

so it needs to be on the boss fleet. Much appreciated

[silk helm]

How tf do I beat this boss? They keep healing

[tame jungle]

by overwhelming it with damage

[silk helm]

😭 i don't think i can

[tame jungle]

tried sub support and regroup & rest already?

[silk helm]

yeah ... burned too much AP im broke now

[sweet delta]

The subs seem to not exist

[silk helm]

didn't know i was against the final boss

[tame jungle]

gg but don't feel too bad since that combination of talents+vessels is very annoying

[sweet delta]

How do you not beat it with a level 120+ triple rainbow BB fleet and max adapts though

[tame jungle]

berke gear

[sweet delta]

[silk helm]

everytime i get it below 30 it heals to 45...

[sweet delta]

Yeah but your BB fleet should be able to kill it twice over in a single battle

[flat sun]

someone said zuihou is free?
does that mean i shouldnt pull

[finite crag]

10k milestone

[tame jungle]

yes play the event maps

[flat sun]

also

when is double ur event

[finite crag]

who knows

[tame jungle]

who knows

[flat sun]

guh

[plain saffron]

Ouh dmg the heal
Or if you have your cv fleet you can try storing the airstrike and use all at once, and hopefully you can deal 30x dmg before she heal completely

Like enemy at 31x, didn't trigger heal. Then you use all and wipe 30x+. Bcs her heal is x% every 5(?) seconds

[silk helm]

ty for the advice but im too weak

[sweet delta]

Are you using bad gear like +10 mk6?

[silk helm]

this one?

[tame jungle]

boss is medium armor so use your AP

[plain saffron]

Use 406mm 50 mle

[silk helm]

srry im new... what is AP? and 50 mle

[robust onyx]

I've experienced that setup when opsiren started, it was annoying to kill

[sweet delta]

Bros roleplaying berke now fr fr

[silk helm]

this one?

[tame jungle]

it's so over

[finite crag]

that one

[silk helm]

LOLOL

[stark quiver]

dont be berke pls

[silk helm]

IM NOT TRYING TO HAHAH

[stark quiver]

anyways to answer your question
AP is armor peircing, used for medium and heavy armor

[robust onyx]

I managed it by getting it to 31% before attempting it again since it only activated the heal ability once per fight

[vernal ore]

does the T3 and special T give you a chance to get Zuihou?
or only gacha and 10k pts reward

danke

[silk helm]

wait so u guys change ur guns for every single boss? like if i have to go back to w12 after the opsi bossi need to change back?

[sweet delta]

That abyssal is bricked anyways unless you wait another 8 hours for rest

Only if you use those BBs in w12

[stark quiver]

or you have enough gear to not change

[tame jungle]

know your enemy

[sweet delta]

I know him quite well

[tame jungle]

is it me...

[sweet delta]

Yes it's me

[eager mulch]

who’s me?

[remote yarrow]

Mebot?

[stark quiver]

nah we love mebot

[tame jungle]

we hate megpt tho

[eager mulch]

who’s we?

[late flame]

If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

[silk helm]

only have two 406 mle, who do i put it on between alsace, vanguard, fdg

[tame jungle]

freddy and all sauce

[sharp socket]

how is the xp gain in T3 like

[tame jungle]

bad

[silk helm]

also i think my alsace prefires which messes up the timing with vanguard... anyone else have this issue?

[robust onyx]

FDG and Alsace

[soft raft]

it shouldnt
Preloads dont activate HSFCR

[sharp socket]

ill just rotate my entire dock throught it then

point gain is like 150 oil for 150 points right, thats pretty good but everything else sucks

[tame jungle]

use bonus ship in boss fleet for 200pts per clear instead

[sharp socket]

i have none

[tame jungle]

farm foxes then

but no i think you're kinda SOL in that case, still shouldn't take all too long to get the 10k points though

[sharp socket]

whats SOL

[tame jungle]

shit outta luck

[finite crag]

shit out of luck

[sharp socket]

i saved 3 days of oil itll be fine

[late flame]

*my hare brain was trying to use akagi muse and kaga (bb) before realising i do have zuikaku / daisen / mikasa

[steep token]

what stage to farm? t3 ?

[plain saffron]

What's the cheap t2 fleet

[forest palm]

hopefully you're only using only one of those 3

[civic crag]

Other than Proto shop and season pass where else to get mk3 bulins

[tame jungle]

UR events have one for a milestone iirc

[remote yarrow]

At 30k

For reruns it's half

[tame jungle]

And that’s like p much all the sources i think, someone go pull up the common resources guide

[remote yarrow]

There's another "source" though I've only seen it once iirc it was like 20 or 30 dollars for one

[tame jungle]

Literally pay to win

[remote yarrow]

Yep

[tired condor]

how do i unlock the middle of opsi

do i gotta complete the story

[tame jungle]

yeah

[tired condor]

how many chapters

[tame jungle]

check wiki i'm not sure when arbiter unlocks

[stark quiver]

5 chaoters

[little tree]

End of stroy

[tired condor]

i think im getting close

[lofty turret]

need help rebuild my 2 teams

[civic crag]

are wyvern and Proto spearfish sidegrades or is one better

[finite crag]

sidegrade

just make wyverns and forget about it

[remote yarrow]

Yeah these are bad, what campaign stage/world are you currently at

[lofty turret]

currently at chapter 5

[remote yarrow]

Also give these a read

[sturdy badger]

Finally got Agir... What's next? So far for research ships,I got: Saint Louis, Mainz, FDG, Agir.

[robust onyx]

Anchorage

[finite crag]

finish pr4, set catchup on anchorage

[lofty turret]

currently tryna limit break my unicorn but lacking much in materials

[remote yarrow]

But your Unicorn is already limit broken, did you mean retrofit?

[lofty turret]

yea mb, haven't touched the game in a long time

[sturdy badger]

Anchorage, ok. But what about Agir? Can I use her now or...? Currently, my mobfleet tank: Roon U. Bossfleet tank: Brennus

Also fdg on dev. 27

[remote yarrow]

What server are you from?

[lofty turret]

Asia Sandy

[remote yarrow]

[lofty turret]

very far behind already ik

[remote yarrow]

Uuuh what SR nodes do you have on medal shop?

[sleek spade]

is Fargo good? how good is Fargo?

[sleek spade]

buy cores...

[remote yarrow]

I recommend you read this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips and use
Amagi,Unicorn,Saratoga
Portland, Laffey,Helena
Amagi is the flagship btw

[robust onyx]

Agir should be usable starting at Dev Lvl 15+

[remote yarrow]

Massa is higher level but she's not that good, so just give Amagi some books and use her

[eager mulch]

smo0tie I don’t think asia sandy is a valid server

[coarse heron]

That early? Really?

[eager mulch]

im still sticking to never use ships below dev30

[remote yarrow]

I was about to say that he just said here he lives and his server maybe

[wind hazel]

agir dev15 is good enough of a tank to use for campaign pushing

[eager mulch]

gold quint mags

lv1 skills

lv32

it’s cooked

[sinful elk]

Chat is she good

[forest palm]

she alright, nothing special

[sturdy badger]

Dev 15 Agir usable already? NIce, got her on dev 21 for now. What fleet should I replace her? Roon U in Mob or Brennus in Boss?

[robust onyx]

She needs levels 1st she's too low

[remote yarrow]

I'm wondering why you got Agir's catchup before Anchorage's

You would've gotten Anchorage Dev 30 already if you did

And not needing to use a Dev 21* Agir, but w/e

[stone sluice]

Would you expect Unicorn + Zuihou might work for w14 hard mode when it comes out?

[eager mulch]

no

[coarse heron]

Oh yeah I guess I can start using Anchovy since she’s at Dev27

[eager mulch]

gn smo0tie

[remote yarrow]

gn turtle

[sturdy badger]

I fogot why I don't start with Anchorage first. I think it's bc of the tech points for Anchorage... And my desires for IB moms...

[west lichen]

ok this might be a dumb question, im doing the visitors in red event for zuikaku, and ive managed to get a couple copies of her, how do i get shokaku?

is she part of the drops in that event or?

[eager mulch]

/wiki shoukaku

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shoukaku
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shoukaku/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shoukaku/Gallery

Aug 30, 2024, 3:07 AM

[west lichen]

yeah i looked there, under drop notes, which i guess is what i missed its only through requisition and medal shop then?

[remote yarrow]

Catchup doesn't require tech points to be done, but answering your other question, since she's not Dev 30 probably throw her into Mob, but ofc level her up before doing so

[wind hazel]

just wait for medal shop

[echo vector]

Can zuihou drop from current event map T-3 ?

Ok

[desert tapir]

Whats the tp map for?

[agile sky]

for the zuihou event, to get the ship bonus, do those ships have to be the boss killer or just in one of the 2 fleets u bring?

[forest palm]

a one time clear challenge for like 800 points

[forest palm]

just 1 of the ships in boss

[plain saffron]

Hardly a challenge but use full fleet anyway because 0 oil cost

[agile sky]

no stacks? I wont get 3x bonus for all three?

[plain saffron]

Nope

[agile sky]

thnx

[remote yarrow]

Wait it's gotta be in boss?

Well that's 1750 points missed

[plain saffron]

Pls read

[forest palm]

to be fair "clear event stage with..." is rather vague

[brisk dragon]

is there 1 more UR left this year or 2 ?

[remote yarrow]

I guess translators were too lazy to put "Defeat Flagship with" instead

[plain saffron]

2

[solar field]

just returned to the game and got her... any tips on what to equip to her?

[plain saffron]

2 gacha ur

[brisk dragon]

oooof i barely have 1 pity. is there any promised collabs ?

[remote yarrow]

Just bench her, she isn't MLB

[strong tartan]

even if she was mlb equipment is situational

[wind hazel]

we'll hear about it in the upcoming stream

[solar field]

any general equipment that you can tip?

I can mlb her if I needed to

[brisk dragon]

hear about it as it in was mentioned before ? or we'll hear if there's collab or not?

[wind hazel]

the stream will tell us what the collab is gonna be

[strong tartan]

save whatever UR bulins you have for now, we have a brand new shiny ur coming in a few weeks

[brisk dragon]

so 2 URs and a collab. i'm cooked :c

[remote yarrow]

Gear is dependent on content also I would hold on to that idea, we are getting a new UR in September and UR Bulins are heavily time gated

[solar field]

I have this amount for UR bulins

[remote yarrow]

Oh

What are you other UR options to Limit Break btw? If only Shinano go ahead

[remote yarrow]

Ah just MLB her

[strong tartan]

oh so just kronshtadt yeah go ahead

[solar field]

here are all of my UR currently... not so much invested and planning to push on my shipyard

[remote yarrow]

These are fine, focus on PR4

[solar field]

as for PR4.. also just unlock Parseval and pushing for Agir

any equipment tips for Shinano..

i've been away on this game for a long while now

[remote yarrow]

Then again, depends on content what are you gonna use her for?

And please don't say "general content"

[sweet delta]

Depends on the hull locks but if free then it'll work for sure because w14h will be easier than w15

[solar field]

a Sakura empire build... mainly for rushing contents...

will probably run here Akagi and Kaga

[stark quiver]

those 2 are rly mid

[remote yarrow]

Well me and others will probably recommend you not going for a faction fleet

[strong tartan]

shinano + akaga would do less dmg than shinano + haku + avp

[solar field]

whos avp?

[tame jungle]

august von parseval

[solar field]

still haven't unlocked Hakuryuu

current fleets are quite mid

as for the equipment... 100% meh

[remote yarrow]

we got an IJN fan

[viscid swift]

usual faction fleet is unoptimal and self imposed handi-cap disclaimer

[strong tartan]

oh wow furutaka and kako

[solar field]

yes... I'm an IJN fan since Kancolle days

[viscid swift]

even as faction fleets go I do not rate them highly at all

[sweet delta]

Missing the rainbows

[remote yarrow]

Are you even at W12?

[solar field]

my shipyard progress is still kinda meh so yes.. missing a lot of rainbows here and there

[tame jungle]

what content are you even pushing with this

[solar field]

I stopped at world 7-2 before I bid farewell on this game

and I'm currently planning to push as hard as I can on this time

[tame jungle]

lv125 ayanami at world 7 holy fuck

[solar field]

?????

[viscid swift]

yeah, you'll want to rebuild your fleets then, preferably not faction fleets

you might also want to give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[humble iris]

What is zuihous building time

[remote yarrow]

Why are you pulling for her to start with? she's free

Just get her from 10k milestone, but if you insist on pulling 2:22:00

[viscid swift]

remember JP Anni is in 2 weeks

[hollow gust]

10k is so easy to grind too

[solar field]

whos this ship?

[remote yarrow]

New IJN SR CV

[solar field]

ohhh.. Zuihou class

[remote yarrow]

wrong, Shouhou class for some reason

[signal pollen]

what's a way i can copium for not having a spare high standard fire control radar

[viscid swift]

wdym a spare one exactly

[remote yarrow]

Black shell? HSFCR aren't that hard to get tho

Check if you can craft one

[signal pollen]

I don't have another high standard fire control radar one I can use for a triple bb comp (I only have 10/25)

[remote yarrow]

Just use a black shell then

[signal pollen]

it's so joever

[hollow gust]

what happen to your table

[signal pollen]

It's on another bb. Bismark zwei has table, NJ has my only high standard fire control radar.

[solar field]

I seriously need to stop on Faction builds

[finite crag]

im glad youre self aware

[signal pollen]

is it worth crafting a high standard fire control radar? Or how can I get blueprints for it quick?

[viscid swift]

I would be happy to give you a thorough explanation as to why faction fleets are shit

[viscid swift]

you can't, simple as that

[hollow gust]

you arent min-maxing , its whatever , just use a shell

[viscid swift]

your only way is from research

[solar field]

any guidance for a returner is highly appreciated

[viscid swift]

well a good start would be starting a thread and posting your dock

[hollow gust]

and not build faction fleets

[signal pollen]

oh well. my poor helena syncing. should I remove all the radar and tables to sync the barrage or will my dps loss be too big

[hollow gust]

If you can't even craft another hsfcr I doubt you can even minmax that well anyway. It's good enough

[ruby grotto]

hi, for the new event, do I just farm T3 repeatedly?

[solar field]

requesting for team Building base on my current available ships

[stark quiver]

essentially yea

[ruby grotto]

thanks

[humble iris]

Wow yes 10k so easy!!

[strong tartan]

Yess!! It is!!

[errant ivy]

is there any point in grinding the event after hitting 10k points?

[sweet delta]

[remote yarrow]

Yes it is and it's free!!

[wind hazel]

11k

[humble iris]

3 hours of grind just for 10k yes so fun!!

[remote yarrow]

My dude you got 2 weeks to farm

[dim summit]

it's event map farming so it's not like i need to tryhard but but what dev level is Daisen "usable" at?

[sharp socket]

its about 10k oil and 6 hours of grind time which is like 4 days of oil

[finite crag]

yep yep just pull it instead ans waste weeks worth of cubes yes!!!!!

[stark quiver]

dont play if you gont wanna grind

[humble iris]

I hope the anniversary gives me lots of free stuff

[errant ivy]

thank you!!! so once i get 11k im done right? sorry for repeating but i just want to make sure!

[wind hazel]

spoiler: you won't

[sweet delta]

Two days

[humble iris]

WHAT

[remote yarrow]

Well you aren't from JP server so you won't

[wind hazel]

yeah no reason to go beyond that

[humble iris]

I thought the meaning of anniversary is free stuff...

[finite crag]

yes and en anniversary just ended

[remote yarrow]

Free stuff for their own server

[stark quiver]

its not

[sharp socket]

how do you get 10k oil in 2 days

[finite crag]

you got your free stuff move on

[remote yarrow]

By saving?

[humble iris]

I guess I'll have to grind 😢

[tame jungle]

2 days kinda sus tho, is that even possible?

[wind hazel]

never underestimate the nerd

[noble tulip]

comms + storage is easily 8k+ in 2 days

[sharp socket]

im using the assumption of having no mail oil or choosing to keep mail oil

[tame jungle]

(or the whale)

[sweet delta]

Considering all the weeklies, monthlies, and maintenance mails, it averageseasily over 4k per day

[humble iris]

Wait how many more days does this event last

[sharp socket]

average works out i guess

[remote yarrow]

2 weeks

Until the 11th

[humble iris]

14 days so everyday I get 3 cubes and 14x3 gives me 42 okay thanks

[sharp socket]

we are on the first day of the event

(unless cn which i think is 2nd day)

[humble iris]

Wait where is roma

And duca

[viscid swift]

Roma is still event limited

[strong tartan]

Roma is from another Italian event

[humble iris]

Why is zuihou the only one on banner

[viscid swift]

because this is a one ship event

[strong tartan]

mini event

[humble iris]

So this isn't regarding that one event that just went into war archives?

[viscid swift]

no

the 2 are completely seperate

[remote yarrow]

And don't try to pull for the other ships, you are probably gonna just burn cubes for a less than 1% chance

[spring bolt]

duca in light, vv in heavy, aqulia in special, all 3 have no rate up
zuihou in special has 1.4% rate up

[viscid swift]

less than 0.5% chance actually

[humble iris]

oh gosh

[short wagon]

should i build for zuihou

[tame jungle]

no

[viscid swift]

no, just grind for her

[humble iris]

Then how do I obtain them without wasting cubes

[short wagon]

ok i see ur name @viscid swift

[tame jungle]

literally took me like an afternoon of grinding, it's turbo easy

[spring bolt]

only if you need an extra copy for skin display

[plain saffron]

Can elite spawn at same coordinate twice in 1 run?

[humble iris]

Or should I just try and get them on event banners since they are added to perm construction

[viscid swift]

you be patient, see if you get them during event pulls, and when you do build off enough cube reserve select and pull for them on wishing wells

[hollow gust]

spending limited cubes on a free ship is incredibly dumb, especially with a UR coming

[humble iris]

Then my only option is to get them via event banners or wishing wells

[wind hazel]

wake up, nagato meta just dropped

[viscid swift]

wait what

[humble iris]

WOAH

[viscid swift]

wooh 2 more BB FP tech

[hollow gust]

wait what ship are you even going for??

[humble iris]

She turned meta cuz of amagis recent event

[hollow gust]

CV just got 2hit tho, CV > BB

[sweet delta]

she grew up?

[plain saffron]

I guess that's the next meta fight?

[humble iris]

Is she gonna be good

And also is her strong barrage getting added and buffed

[noble tulip]

TEX for sure, better than Musashi

[viscid swift]

we literally don't know anything about her

[remote yarrow]

How do you expect us to know how good an unreleased ship is gonna be

[plain saffron]

Let me ask my crystal ball

[humble iris]

Idk let me ask my magic 8 ball

[plain saffron]

Answering myself looks like yes. If there's 3 elite total, there will be 3 spawn point

[remote yarrow]

Thanks for answering the nagami from the past, present nagami

[late flame]

nagamiception

[sweet delta]

Is this the second heavy showdown?

[viscid swift]

3rd

[sweet delta]

[viscid swift]

Arizona and QE

[strong tartan]

qe and arizona

[plain saffron]

Any news on modified meta fight

[sweet delta]

I forgot about QE, she must not have been important

[viscid swift]

hmm?

[spring bolt]

normally 3 elite maps has 2 pre-spawned, iirc when the 3rd spawns, it may spawn on the previous 2's position

[plain saffron]

Fuck

[spring bolt]

but i believe you were right to some extent, there are usually 3 spawn positions, or maybe more?

[steady beacon]

I guess we all collectively forgot Rodney

[plain saffron]

But for normal enemy thay can't be same right because there's wreck of prev enemy....unless they move

[late flame]

ikr

[steady beacon]

[plain saffron]

Apparently there's chapter with more spawn than elite, and more elite than spawn

Actually a lot. Roughly 100 ish

[steady beacon]

[plain saffron]

I hate this game a lot

[bright tusk]

Is those ships need to fight the boss in order to get bonus points?

[late flame]

any one of them in boss fleet yes

[bright tusk]

Can stack?

[plain saffron]

Nope

[drifting pecan]

so, as long we defeat the boss fleet, its gives an token?

i thought these stage aren't farmable

[frank pulsar]

is there news on whos the next meta boss?

[steady beacon]

Scroll up just a bit

[late flame]

or #al-general 😛

[frank pulsar]

another bb

[plain saffron]

[steady beacon]

[frank pulsar]

wait jp stream over already?

[plain saffron]

Nope that's from CN

Prob the only info we'll get outside stream

[late flame]

jp stream next week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNE42EzfCE4

[frank pulsar]

ouh thats good then

[errant ivy]

could anyone help me gear my units? i only have one fleet atm but i need to complete that newbie mission that tells me to level up gear 20 times... i can make a thread as well!

[steady beacon]

Based on the patch notes, Nagato will drop in MS before the stream anyway
Which is why, I imagine, she's revealed now

[wind hazel]

go ahead

[errant ivy]

thank you! i'll make the thread!

help with gearing

[jaunty vault]

oilcap values are wrong

[vale spindle]

i thought for t3 events the oilcap is that

[jaunty vault]

lemme confirm rq

[wind hazel]

cooper is wrong

so bad, ban him

[plain saffron]

Isn't oil cap in datamine sheet

[wind hazel]

oh, sam wrote it wrong

[jaunty vault]

im right, now what

[plain saffron]

I spend a lot of time and money to make that

[wind hazel]

i thought you were talking about inside the sheet

[jaunty vault]

pls don't spend your money on worthless stuff

[wind hazel]

this is wrong, sheet is right

cooper is right, mod him

[plain saffron]

Where's my mod

[wind hazel]

you will force people to simp saratoga, no mod

[jaunty vault]

you need to stop playing the game and act like a bimbo to get gph mod

[plain saffron]

But I'm a guy 😔

I stop playing the game is that enough

[vale spindle]

fixed

[tame jungle]

Himbocube

[hushed aurora]

I just finished anchorage sim 5. Can I replace my portland with her?

[stark quiver]

Yea 100%

[jaunty vault]

could've replaced way before that

[desert tapir]

6 days until the current meta ends. Have they announced the next one yet?

[strong tartan]

Yeah it's Nagato

[remote yarrow]

#gameplay-help message

[torn latch]

The new "SP" map on this current Zuihou event will not give any daily drop, right?

[jaunty vault]

nope

its a one time deal

[late flame]

thats why the stage is named despair and hope

[eternal basalt]

And takes zero oil

[plain saffron]

Anyone know what the 3rd number for expedition_id_weight_list means

Nvm it's probably means cargo

[ionic anchor]

guys can we play AL in PC or still needs Bluestack or other anykind?

[cobalt rapids]

needs emu

[late flame]

yes an emulator is required

[ionic anchor]

pain..

i will be back to see how my fleets doing (is it useble still or im screwed)

[finite crag]

if youre gonna play again just use your old account

[ionic anchor]

wait how do i download AL in PC?

[cobalt rapids]

uh get emulator and use their shop

[ionic anchor]

google play beta is fine?

[jaunty vault]

use an emulator like BlueStacks or ldplayer

[cobalt rapids]

al isnt on google play

[jaunty vault]

Google play doesn't have AL, yet

[ionic anchor]

Bluestacks or Idplayer? which one is better?

[jaunty vault]

ld

[rain bobcat]

is nugget meta next meta

[cobalt rapids]

she is indeed

[ionic anchor]

is it L or I?

[rain bobcat]

pog

[eternal basalt]

Next thursday patch

[little tree]

surly we will get a usful meta ship one day

[hollow gust]

Technically you can run on windows natively

WSA sideloader , but it's worse then bluestacks in almost every way

[sleek spade]

is improved ASR for sub worth it? or just use more oil

[keen owl]

Do they stack or just bring one?

[boreal wagon]

one

[keen owl]

Thnx

[cobalt rapids]

move em with oil

[sleek spade]

alright

[plain saffron]

It's another emulator, not natively also it's killed by Microsoft already

[sleek spade]

what good is lil sandy? other than indpendence and RF, is there any other good ships in monthly core?

[atomic abyss]

No

[sleek spade]

ah ok

[shell willow]

i dont think even royal fortune is good

[late flame]

imagine buying rf without her guns

cope for rf actually become good once manjuu decides to release a non-meh augment*for her

[atomic abyss]

That would be a... Stroke of good fortune wouldn't it

[late flame]

huat ar

[atomic abyss]

Really all they need to do is make her guns perm
Or gear lab
Or something

[late flame]

tempestra tech box

[inner delta]

why talk about gun and not the fact that she just dies

[atomic abyss]

Angry surcouf noises

[late flame]

hottest bikini sub, alas nowhere that useful

[left tiger]

If I have a d30 Agir, do i save the extra blueprint for her eventual fs5 or turn it to protocore?

[finite crag]

save it

[atomic abyss]

Save

[finite crag]

imo my opinion

[left tiger]

Alr thx

[hushed aurora]

anyone has a well build anchorage? How should I build her? Is this fine?

[atomic abyss]

Replace the drone with a gold rudder

[cobalt rapids]

give her a def aux instead of drone like camo

[atomic abyss]

Frontliners almost never carry offensive aux gear

[hushed aurora]

and what skill should I upgread first? Or does it even matter?

[jaunty vault]

not really as long as you level both

[fathom sable]

Keep?

[jaunty vault]

what are the skills

[fathom sable]

Flame's Aggression

[jaunty vault]

and?

[wind hazel]

the hp one is 🫃🏼

probably keep if you don't have any better, until you find a better steel

[steady beacon]

Also unfortunate it's a base 3-pt, due to Flame's swallowing the 2-pt slot

[cobalt rapids]

i wouldnt reroll it

[vernal edge]

Does Kaga BB count for bonus pts?

[steady beacon]

I wouldn't imagine so
Iirc alts in the past have not counted for prelude missions either

[hollow ridge]

week old newbie here, what to do in this new event? i already got fargo from the event shop before this update btw

[cobalt rapids]

grind T3

[vernal edge]

Level your ships, do event stages and milestones

[eternal basalt]

Old event, there is new event

[vernal edge]

80 runs without running SP huh

Is Zuiho even good to try so hard to farm her?

[plain saffron]

Does all elite have movement range of 3?

Is that even hard

Put 6 ship you want to lvl then auto repeat it

[eternal basalt]

HELPs get you there in no-time

[plain saffron]

But morale

[cloud fractal]

I know there’s nothing that is technically worth pulling for specifically in standard banners, but is the new addition of Aquila the most desirable unit of the new ships in the pools?

[plain saffron]

Answering myself, apparently 1-3 and it's in file

[eternal basalt]

Yes, but don't pull. Wait for IJN UR

[shell willow]

hit +2

[vernal edge]

Wait, how long is this event map? Week or two?

[eternal basalt]

Its 50 with support ships

[eternal basalt]

2 weeks, as usual

[vernal edge]

Then its kinda doable, meh Only have non-mlb Kaga out of all listed ships and no sr bulins

[eternal basalt]

Just put her in 3:3 fleet

[obtuse knoll]

do I need asw for W14?

going to 3 star

[inner delta]

on 14-3 and -4 yes

[eternal basalt]

14-3 and 14-4

[candid bronze]

Hello, just wanna ask what do they mean by specified ships in farming T3 in the pin? Which ships are these

[obtuse knoll]

[vernal edge]

Musashi, Mikasa, Kaga, Akagi, Daisen, Zuikaku

[candid bronze]

thank you

[eternal basalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468804420801527810/1278734841168531497/Azur_Lane_2024-08-29-22-10-44_1.jpg?ex=66d28adf&is=66d1395f&hm=0d3d35b0bc45337290a2da6b010b88c5291c65d9241ad6bb4c69578aae3d8924& as written here ingame

[vernal edge]

500 base xp

[inner delta]

yea? the stage is also piss easy

it's like not even lv 100

[plain saffron]

Low lvl enemy low rewards low everything

[obtuse knoll]

is the flare on w14 for mob fleet or boss?

[cobalt rapids]

use on neither

[inner delta]

it doesn't really matter

[plain saffron]

For the fleet that take it. Unless you mean which is better

[obtuse knoll]

it doesn't really matter then

[vernal edge]

Wait, do i need to put event ship in boss fleet or just make it appear on the map?

[atomic abyss]

Boss

[cloud fractal]

Are we farming TP or T3 in the event?

Because I can run TP back to back?

[finite crag]

TP is a one time 800 points

cant farm it

[cloud fractal]

Oh damn. It’s only quest reward. Got it. T3 you can farm the currency.

[eternal basalt]

Would be great if TP daily seeing as no oilcost

[unborn owl]

gear for eldridge kai?

[dusk maple]

same as Laffey2

[cloud fractal]

The IJN UR is a rerun right? We’re expecting Sushi?

[reef flume]

First new ijn ur. Then later on sushi rerun

[eternal basalt]

New event

Stream 7th

[cloud fractal]

Excellent! Looking forward to it.

[urban spruce]

Does completing this do anything or is it just a test?

[finite crag]

first time you do it you get 800 points

[urban spruce]

So it's useless after first time? Kay thanku I already finished it

[inland shoal]

Is Kirov the only SR base meta we have so far?

[strong tartan]

Uhh Algerie too

[inland shoal]

Ah right thx

[strong tartan]

I think that's it idk I remember there being someone else but im probably just thinking of Kirov

[inland shoal]

Or maybe one of the gold retros we got

[shell willow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/META thats it

[unborn owl]

what is TP stage?

[eternal basalt]

One time SP stage

[unborn owl]

no point?

[eternal basalt]

800 points, as SP stages do. Given under missions

[tender lotus]

Is there a guide that shows how many blueprints we get from research?

[inland shoal]

A guide no
Only some data collection

[crimson glacier]

i think he just needs the usual research recommendation chart thing

[tender lotus]

Yeah that

[inland shoal]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[tender lotus]

I mean one with drop rate

[eternal basalt]

There is none

[tender lotus]

I see then

[plain saffron]

https://azur-stats.lyoko.io/

[unborn owl]

oh well

[eternal basalt]

You need to redeem the 800 points under missions

[unborn owl]

i know. i just saw it

before you edit it

[strong tartan]

I forget does Eldridge's retro remove the cooldown of her first skill entirely or does she just no longer start the battle on cooldown?

[crimson glacier]

it still has the same old cooldown

[steady beacon]

Just no longer starts the battle on cooldown
But 20s interval between procs

[cloud reef]

I may be silly, but is there a good combo for my Main? Idk if Warspite is the best (you can ignore fleet 2, I switched some things up), so... any suggestions with what I have currently?

[sharp socket]

which is the best non UR or event limited DD gun

also about this is laff1 gun focused, aoa focused or torp DD

[atomic abyss]

gear lab gold twin 128
laff is gun focused, but 100 kai would be her best ofc - she has a proc on gun fire skill

[atomic abyss]

where are you at content wise?

[bright tusk]

Is lance good for AA CA like cheshire and guam?

[cloud reef]

Starting 8-4

[atomic abyss]

in that case, you only need 1 fleet
where's your unicorn?

warspite retro is very meh btw

[late flame]

looks like a returning player hmm

[cloud reef]

My unicorn?

[atomic abyss]

NJ aside, Hood, VV and especially owari are all better than her

[cloud reef]

Oh ye, I am a returning player!

[atomic abyss]

not having uni is just a waste

best healer in the game, and is used in end game content

[warm latch]

unicorn retrofit is the best healer in the game

[atomic abyss]

time to get her from guild shop and retrofit her asap

[late flame]

unicorn retrofitted is best healer yup

[cloud reef]

Oh, it's a unit

[strong tartan]

did you think they were talking about an actual unicorn

[late flame]

[cloud reef]

Well, some sorta item or whatever. I wouldn't know

[atomic abyss]

HMS Unicorn - this girl in other words

get her asap

[cloud reef]

Got her. Can't MLB yet but ye, there's that lol

[strong tartan]

yes she's a unit she's available in the guild shop, probably the only ship you'll consistently use throughout the entire game with the obvious exceptions

[atomic abyss]

just use exp books

[cloud reef]

Done! So, her, NJ and... Shinano?

[warm latch]

no, nj and shinano are not mlb so dont use them

[crimson glacier]

your shinano is dogshit

[strong tartan]

bench both of them since they won't be of use for a while

[crimson glacier]

ships need max stars to be good

[atomic abyss]

your fleet will be
VV/Owari, Unicorn, Enterprise, Portland, Starter, Helena

[cloud reef]

NJ is that bad? I technically have a few rainbow bulins, so I could MLB her, but ye

[foggy chasm]

i forgot how pr exp farming works, so if both combat data is already open, do i still need to do 3 million exp or 2 mil exp is enough

[crimson glacier]

NJ is good but needs max stars, and like every other UR BB is much better than her

[atomic abyss]

3, you can't have both stages open

[late flame]

you cannot start 2mil exp* without finishing 1mil exp* grind

[atomic abyss]

and do not use the rainbow bulins on her - there are new URs coming, save for those

[strong tartan]

no she's just a bad mob battleship

[atomic abyss]

owari can compete with a mlb NJ anyways...

[late flame]

seriously too many BBs*

[foggy chasm]

i seee

[strong tartan]

you shouldn't mess with her best buds

[cloud reef]

Yikes- I see, alright. Owari it is

[atomic abyss]

to be clear, NJ without mlb is like, 2/3s of owari

[eternal basalt]

Keep for IJN UR

[foggy chasm]

is the bonus ticket from using musashi is when its boss fight only

[jaunty vault]

yes

only need the ship in boss fight

need the ship in boss fight

[foggy chasm]

musashi crossfleet only on flagship?

[jaunty vault]

no?

no

[strong tartan]

?on

[polar lion]

Wait bonus pt trigger only on boss fight fleet?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[eternal basalt]

Same as the missions of Call to Arms

[polar lion]

Deym I've been grinding it the wrong wae this whole time coz I put sushi in crossfleet

[inland shoal]

Depends on what you mean, it always uses the flagship position in the crossfleet no matter what position Musashi is in in her own fleet

[jaunty vault]

saying crossfleet is centred would make more sense than whatever the fuck that is

[vernal osprey]

I just saw through Zuihou's skills, is her healings even remotely close to Unicorn's/Perseus'?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[sharp socket]

so after i +13 my soyuz and champ guns, do i save for future mk7 +13 or do other things like kron gun or plygun

[vernal osprey]

Aight

[cobalt rapids]

but shes a better ryuuhou for offhealing

[foggy chasm]

to get UR design plans is from opsi?

[cobalt rapids]

ye

[cobalt rapids]

backline guns first

[sharp socket]

so save 1k plate for 3x mk7?

[inner delta]

3x mk7 is way more than 1k

UR gear is expensive af

[sharp socket]

isnt it 360 plates per UR +13

[cloud reef]

Should I just start investing in Owari then? Fully so?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

3rd mk+7 is niche

[inner delta]

it's not worth unless you playing hardcorely to have 3 mk7 at 13

[cobalt rapids]

after ure done with ur 3x champy consider +13ing gear when u need it

[cloud reef]

Aaand what should I do about Shinano? Keep?

[atomic abyss]

bench her, for a very long time

[cloud reef]

that is very sad... Enterprise as replacement then?

[atomic abyss]

enterprise at mlb has over 3x a 0lb shinano's damage so

non mlb ships are shit - same applies to URs

[foggy chasm]

is there an opsi qol farm since 2 years ago, i hate opsi farm 2y ago

[sharp socket]

guess ill just save forever

[atomic abyss]

for farming, not that i recall
just auto the thing lol

[warm flax]

in what way

[atomic abyss]

DPS
owari's DPS is very close to FdG and NJ

[warm flax]

woah

I knew it

[atomic abyss]

and indiana herself is close to owari

[wary field]

hi guys, can i ask if there is an operation siren guide here ? thank you

[jaunty vault]

not really, no

[queen jackal]

should i retrofit colorado or save it for someone else in the future?

[atomic abyss]

if you want to retrofit a BB - nelson is just better

[queen jackal]

ugh my nelson is 2 star lvl 1

[atomic abyss]

she actually can hit 100% proc rate after all

She should be Zuihou-class; the in-game classification is wrong. We have reported this to the devs and they are checking.

-staff

[late flame]

lol

[finite crag]

swept under the rug

[atomic abyss]

she has been moved to zuihou class in game for fleet tech btw

Before and after

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[vernal edge]

Oh, that zuihou class

[inner delta]

[whole crypt]

poor shouhou

[whole crypt]

1080

[jaunty vault]

oh they fixed it

[plain saffron]

also more faction tech

[jaunty vault]

thanks to me

[plain saffron]

thank you cooper

[whole crypt]

well zuihou classifications are weird

[inner delta]

yea 80 is way more

80 is 8x guild shop buyout ok

[queen jackal]

should i bother then? or can i replace her easily? i can send fleet

[jaunty vault]

80 is 8% of 1000

[whole crypt]

one month of guild shop

[plain saffron]

answering myself again, path is serverside, enemy choosen is client side

[boreal wagon]

all the future nagamis answering all the past nagamis

[plain saffron]

nagamiception

[atomic abyss]

Nelson is most only gonna get replaced by the UR/DR BBs, or stuff like Owari and Indiana

[queen jackal]

i have indiana in another fleet

saratoga retro worth? i finish unicorn tmr

[tacit mortar]

guys how do you one run meta wichita?

[frank pulsar]

by using good ships, good gear and having high tech

[sharp socket]

do you prefer reading a thesis or chinese images

[frank pulsar]

this is an example fleet riceist used

[tacit mortar]

i want your opinion on how you guys did it.

[frank pulsar]

there is no opinion in meta one shots. only extensive testing and concrete results

[dusk maple]

Eldridge retrofit is much much better than using Guam in that fleet

[frank pulsar]

its a fleet from 1 month ago, and i never paid attention to wichita

[atomic abyss]

Most of us aren't one shotting her tho

[tacit mortar]

I see, cause someone mentioned to me that only noobs cant one shot metas.

[sharp socket]

i did it in 2-3 shots depending on how helena is feeling that day

[tacit mortar]

glad im not alone

[dusk maple]

that someone sounds like a noob

[plain saffron]

i would say depends on META

[atomic abyss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/460645783021289472/1275506305582235770/Screenshot_2024.08.21_02.26.31.732.png?ex=66d2a991&is=66d15811&hm=a27197164a589660bc61dc9a4a8a2a740f12a6315b65e94707b68cf455395c6c&

[tacit mortar]

its always about helena xD

[frank pulsar]

whoever told you that is straight up lying
one shotting is for hardcore players for most meta fights

[half plover]

for the new event do you guys just run a 1:1 laffey unicorn fleet for example and grind t3?=

[late flame]

yeah he did but i saw he has like 2 rainbow table , all +13 and probably max tech

[tacit mortar]

what meta?

[atomic abyss]

#trophy-room message

For triple BB

All the images I sent are for Wichita Meta

[sleek spade]

Hey guys is Fargo worth the 125 and worth the kit investment?

[frank pulsar]

pretty sure no

[dusk maple]

i use the same, but one-shot is rare without support barrage cuz no oaths here

[tacit mortar]

all in auto I presume?

[atomic abyss]

Yes on auto

[atomic abyss]

Absolutely not

[sleek spade]

Isn’t her dps really good?

[atomic abyss]

Lmfao no

[tacit mortar]

I feel......weak >.<

[sharp socket]

yes that works for morale saving but since the oilcap is so low you can full fleet if you like

[sleek spade]

Bruh I was told she has Drake lv dps by someone

I don’t have Drake so…

[plain saffron]

if you want to low oil prob do T2 instead. T3 oil cap is already low

[frank pulsar]

takes time
its been 2 years and im only capable of one shotting a few meta bosses

[tacit mortar]

thanks for the replies btw, I dont feel horrible....much.

[atomic abyss]

Drake's isn't that great anymore so that's one thing
Secondly, most CLs are not hitting CA DPS

[half plover]

ty I think I will just level my ships at t3 then

[plain saffron]

there's not much benefit to one shotting, 2 shot is enough

[atomic abyss]

What most players should aim for, is reliable 2 shotting

[late flame]

b-but zero oil cost

[frank pulsar]

~~b-but 1 shot is convenient ~~

[unreal bloom]

Is the daisen gun better on musashi than purple ijn gear lab one for light armor?

[tacit mortar]

its always 2 shots for me......on meta fights that is

[tawdry sluice]

If you want to zero cost, do you free hit and wait for other people to finish her off

[sleek spade]

Yes

[frank pulsar]

daisen gun is an ap gun

[sleek spade]

Wait no? Why? I got told to use it lol

[unreal bloom]

Was it not he?

[frank pulsar]

its not for light armour

[sleek spade]

Oh he was asking for Light armor nvm

[atomic abyss]

It's AP

[unreal bloom]

My bad then

Idk why i understood it was he from leaks or smth

[atomic abyss]

As far as I'm aware, it's a worse 457 that Musashi can use

Aka, don't use it

[sleek spade]

That compared to IJN gun PR1, isn’t it better?