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Okay so build Sandy first then after that it doesn’t matter, got it
I didnt say it doesnt matter 
Is 15-3 boss light or med
is warspite, hood and howe a good backline, or should i replace hood with monarch and howe with queen elizabeth?
How is Pitts in comparison to other CAs? I have her at 105 broken to 110, but I'm brand new pretty much! I have quite a few other CA ships and am building St. Louis!
Which CAs do you have already?
Hood is better at mobs and warspite is better with bosses
And QE is never worth using
If it's for general content like PR grind it's whatever so use whoever you want
15-3 is medium iirc
it is zuihou
4 out of thsoe 5 BBs are good 
makes sense, thanks
Alr, well I exaggerated on quite a few; my build list has Ibuki as well as St. Louis, but I have Pola, Minneapolis, Prinz Eugen, and Pitts in my available to use roster!
St. Louis is just one task away, Ibuki is probably a week out.
Do you have BPs to max either of them right away? Cause if you don’t they won’t count for awhile.
Then Ibuki is closer, ironically lmfao. I have 250-300 for her.
have you been working on anchorage
tbh if you’re new PR1 is a poor place to be focusing on unless you can’t develop other series due to tech points
not all CA do the same thing
ibuki is mainly dmg
portland is a tank
pittsburgh is kinda dmg + decent tank
she is probably fine to use for now
Considering your lack of CAs, Pittsbruh is good to use for the moment
Yeah, I haven't built enough then! Ty for the help, and I'll refocus my efforts post Ibuki tbh 🙂 I'm not close to end game though, I've just been doing events/past event Ashen ???, otherwise up to 8-1 in story.
the recommendation is to get anchorage, and also sit at pr4
PR1 2 and 3 at this point is after you run out of things to do, cause you’ll have ages to get 98% of their blueprints for free
stay with event
try and farm D3 if u can
we will have a new event after this one so probably you would want to farm that one next
imo once one fleet is around level 100 time to work on a second one if u have the option
alright nevermind dont do research get to 12-4 after this event
plan and level a 2nd fleet with the help of a thread in this channel
My fleet keeps getting AVI checked by C1, working on enhancing and getting that better figured, so I dunno if that's happening but I've been farming B3 like a madman!
avi check means you need cv and aa
Yeah B3 is fine if you can’t do C or D yet imo

should be easy to bypass that restriction
just need good CV/CVL
imo try and push if u can
D maps have oil cap meaning they are much more efficient to farm
also probably a 2nd fleet by then
I've been trying slowly, but my fleets are.. probably lacking! Currently have my #1 as Pitts-Fargo-Bell/Warspite-Shoukaku-Indiana and I'm working on a second with Minneapolis-Allen Summer-Jeane Arc/Unicorn-Long Island-Saratoga
Both look pretty bad
i suggest making thread with your dock sorted by level leaving out grey and blue and we can give more directed advice
warspite/shokaku no bueno
also bell
Long island
and also do gear advice while were at it because its probably not great either
Okay! I will post it tonight or tomorrow when I get some time. And no, I'm guessing those 70% efficiency is because incorrect faction gear for the ship lmao
yeah probably worth to restructure a bit if u have the time 
make a thread and post your dock
Thanks everyone! 😅😂
Wdym incorrect faction gear
Theres nothing of the sort
you guessed wrong
Some ships just have low efficiency for some slots
you may also need some fundamentals reading so read this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips and also the other things in the ECGC. when you have the time
my advice for now try and use indiana, unicorn,saratoga, pittsburg, helena, fargo if they are MLB and stick to that fleet for now until u make your thread
I figured the Sakura boxes should preferably be used on Sakura ships LMAO
Nah doesn’t matter at all
uh it doesnt work like that
and retrofit unicorn if u have not already
A lot of sweaty nerds have done tons of theory crafting on this game for you in the past 6 years
can Bunny start with Flame or Heart of the Torpedo?
Relatively new, like level 70, almost done with PR for drake. Should I be going for Plymouth or anchorage next, can dev both atm
anchorage because she is coinable
Alright thanks
although what research are u focusing in academy?
Like the catchup stuff?
Anchorage is very useful for survivability, I got her and I'm happy
Oh 5 atm
ok good as long as it is 4 and above it is fine
why do owari sometime not fire her barrage even if she's flagship? is this a bug?
she fire the screenwide barrage but not the aimed barrage
as we say around here in my country
"Something wrong isnt right" (yeah its sarcastic)
what
Event farm is debatable in many ways ... pretty much try hards, tech farmers, or busy plp do in different ways ... but that way above works
Unless you mean like, store priority?
all good
are u sure about that ?
cuz from wut i test her long time ago i remeber about her doing wut we expect reaching near FdG in DMG or in luck runs doing over it ... and i remeber her firing her barage as expected
I watched the screen and I don't see an aimed barrage
I'll try record it next time
Silly question but which URs have gotten a rerun so far?
Besides the ones in the perm pool? I know Ulrich von Hutten for sure
Vanguard and all older URs have gotten reruns
Ah I see
Just returned to game so wanted to know
Thanks
The Siren strongholds in OpSi, do they return every other day or weekly or something?
One new spawn every week
So there are like 4 or 8 that pop up every month?
4-6 iirc
whats after two wyvern? for gear lab
it is fixed at 6 per month I think
2 at start then one every monday
if you ask what rainbow gear to make next then either Twin 457mm or Triple 406mm, both American.
or just dont make anything until you need it
another wyvern
honestly probably more wyverns
the NJ gun is nice but it is mainly worth if u have the gold plates to +13 and mianly for light armor bosses
the DD gun is also nice but it is not like u need it
AA gun mainly for chapter 15 and 13h
3 4 wyverns ‼️‼️‼️
4 if u can
3 spearfishes <(")
i went 3 and 1 breguet
I'm severely overcapping on oil. Is there a quick and efficient way to lower it?
Buy curry for dorm
I'm at 1375 already 
MORE CURRY
then buy more
I usually buy OpSi data logger every month for 5k oil to skip the more tedious part of OpSi
Oh gosh- That do be a quick way, but is it really efficient?? It pains me
also why do you need to burn oil?
I'm far over cap because of all the mails + inactivity
He said he’s overcapped presumably at hard cap?
but why do you need to burn it?
just use the oil to farm
The cap is 7300. I'm at 24348.
yea but why tho?
If you’re hard capped you can’t get more oil even from rewards so 
I cannot even get oil anymore, yep. I'd like to buy the weekly pack 
alright lemme rephrase, whats the reason? do you need to claim stuff?
did fleet tech got reworked or something?
ah understandable, uhh its just 4k oil just grind a bit
Grinding time, I guess! lol
While at it, and excuse the silly question: Coins... How to get more? Because THAT one is definitely not near cap lmao
just go farm d3 or 12-4
12-4
How many tier lists do we have? I only know etcl
but rn as the event is active go farm d3
I'm at 8-2 still. I guess I just gotta do more story
coin is hardly ever an issue in this game anymore if you farm the right stage
yea do that after youre done with event
many would kill to have as much oil as you do so make use of it
Event it is. Thanks! I'm quite lost currently with coming back + events and whatnot. Really out of the AL loop
Real I came back this week too after like 2.5 years gone
You and I, both lol
Coming back to 3 new PR series got me like “ah shit here we go again”
Hell, I have no PR ships at all! I'm grinding the points right now to get Hakuryuu lol
do
fdg > ALL of pr4 > plymouth/brest of pr5 > else
Oh? I'm assuming FDS is Friedrich?
yea
I honestly have no Iron ships built, meaning that my tech points are very low. Would be a huge pain to farm that now, I believe-
Do PR4 first then
#justice for drake
drake is shit
I'm happy Hakuryuu is in pr4 then-

Lots of booty though 
wouldnt really say Drake's shit
more like heavily outdated
same thing
GPH being overly dramatic? Say it isn’t so
What about Shimanto btw?
youre gonna stick to pr4 until its finished either way, just coin fdg once shes unlocked
are you getting hundreds of planes thrown at you?
No, I just like Shimanto's art lol
good aa carry but just stick to pr4 for now
youll get her later on
Hakuryuu first, then! One day... The grind is eee. I guess I really mostly need uuh... limitbreak stuff for my SSR ships
Do you still keep the focus on pr4 if the only thing left is haku fate sim?
haku fate sim is good so yea
Aight
somewhere in september mid/end
We don't know anything about the UR, right? Besides that it's gonna be, well, a new one and not a rerun?
most likely yea
Very interesting! Do I have a chance at getting 400 cubes if I'm looking at ~40 currently? 
how many do you have now?
About 40, as I said. Farming stages right now so I can't check right away
I do have the monthly pass, if that counts much
not 400 but you can can get about 200 more
i dont think youre getting 300 cubes in a matter of 4 weeks
I shall luck it out, in that case
just do all dailies weeklies and take cube commissions
you can
Yee, I'll not not pull. Btw the UR pity counter thingo doesn't count for uh... that new UR, right?
keep in mind event lasts 2 weeks so thats more time to get cubes
Right! So about 6 weeks? That should be quite some pulls, including monthly pass
yea
ill be honest in my experience i never hit pity
its only around a hundred or less pulls
Yeah, I may be lucky as well. I remember New Jersey being my first UR and I got her in the first 20 pulls or so. Maybe that luck will be back!
i mean you can get a couple cubes with the skin pack but i dont recommend it for the cubes only
i have 190 cubes, can I get 210 cibes in 2 weeks ??
I will. Well, if the char is both, very cool and strong
is zeppy viabe for w12+
What is the 1/3 sequence numbering in the gear column, eg https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cv?ship=indomitable
im prety sure they should just be sidegrades of each other
1 out of 3 more or less equivalent options
Oh ic
click behind to go thru the other sidegrades
no
The Cruise Season Pass keeps calling to me like the Green Goblin mask 
Which 3 should I build?
for what?
this looks like a napoli xp farm
Yes
whoever gives
eva & fp & hit
Fleet tech tracker for Azur Lane
I’ve been having fun fiddling with Duca Degli personally
Guess I'll just go with the first three
sure
Kron,pomp and pola
Guys,this is just a make shift boss fleet for W14,need help to improve it more
Mog.....
Tallin or voroshilov?
I don't know what to put lol
well what have you got to work with for one, and what gear are you running
whats wrong with mog?
Voroshilov has better tech
Doesn't she die to fast
no
no, that was fixed
People do prefer a very beefy vg for w14 boss but looks strong enough tbh
Didn't know it was fixed
Well, “fixed”. Anyways she’s a fine UR
It just for boss fight ,the mob fleet is already good,no problem
Just show gear tbh
Ok wait
Your ships are fine unless you’re going to show dock and ask for recs
Does anchroge benfit a lot from FS5
yea
Not rly
Does Coining discount share between Ships I noticed if i coin ancrohage i cant Coin AVP
But you should still get fs5 if only to accelerate getting haku and agir finished
all prs share coining and all drs share coining
Here's the gear of the VG
Should i get AVP to dev 30 and have Anroage wait on FS5 then
Avp really wants fs5
avp fs5 prio
you dont need asw in boss
vh and oxytorp wow
ditch the opsi torp for more hp aux
and kronk's gun is eh but its fine
also laff2's gun can be better
Ah.... Ok.... XD
+11 oxytorp also
not too bad
I must admit I do have plus13 oxys for pvp
we live in a world where kron gun is “eh”
no aa gun
What gun should I replace for Laffey?
oh i missed a word
what is this even for
W14
yeah that's pretty bad
14 boss
Ok ok
How many gold auxiliaries i missed 🥲
I missed all good ones that reduce spread
thats fine
you literally just need washer and hp aux
probably referring to the ascension box
the aux i miss most - (2nd) goldburn since i wasnt playing AL during gridman original run
likewise (2nd) rainbow table (vanguard original run)
the usb?
yes
What's that cyanidin do
Does anyone know then numbers how long it will take to get dev 30 haku with no Cube Research (on avg)
cyanide
close enough
It’s quite good by the way
What do I do with dupes for ships I already have MLB? UR, in this case? Got a spare New Jersey
Is 119 to 120 a big jump in ship strength
survivibility i think
Not rly obv
you scrap them or keep them for fleet power
scrap for bigly medals
Was it discussed previously if mog's double+triple is better than the improved quad torps ?
It’s only a 2% gap about for dmg dealt and taken
Scrap it is. Thanks!
Context: reviewing torps for my UR DDs
Aren’t those torps mostly mediocre?
Just make sure you're NOT capped when scrap UR
The 2+3 specifically
i keep mine for fleet power
yeah, quad mags all the way still
The improved quad is the best mag torp in game
Yeah I haven't heard anything about the 2+3 but I saw that the imp quads are highly rated I think.
The SE torp?
I never remember factions tbh, the improved quad that was event exclusive and gold
They are IB
Oh the IB
This is my mob fleet btw
meh to be honest
wheres ur fdg
I know Unzen shouldn't be there but neh~
Uzen is not the issue here
its kinda dead and like
unzens not the problem
Fdg? She's sleeping in the dock XD
Huh?? It survives and doesn't die lol especially with Eldridge as a tank
then swap nj for her
Honestly you have a full UR fleet except unicorn it’s not that hard
if it works it works then
But yes improvements can be made
I don't like NJ in W14, especially for mobbing compared to the other UR BBs
her AoE is a bit lacking in what is primarily a mobbing orineted chapter, UvH off flag is annoying at the best of times because you need to swap her to the flag position when she's out of ammo
Which is objectively better, a +13 champagne gun or a +11 twin 457?
not to mention BBs just tend to have worse wave clearing abilities than CVs and you lose ACV and recon value
I’d probably keep the plus13 champy
Eldridge main tank I can't comment on as I haven't tested her but 115 seems rather questionable, at leats get her to 120
I seem to remember my 14-1 and 14-2 mob fleets being triple CVs
That… is also not optimal
they still have different roles
there's not that much overlap all things considered
14-1 and 2 is ez
14-2 and 2 are the tutorial stages
yeah but it was also in 2021 before any of these new fangled UR BBs
At this point if you have lots of URs and whatnot w14 isn’t that hard anymore
it still wasnt optimal back then
it worked though
please explain, what is their roles? I used to believe I could use any of them for the same things
im not saying it doesnt, just saying its not optimal and 14-1 and 2 are piss easy
Ah cause of DMG reduced of out of ammo? Well in my case I troll with her items,I put Musashi gun on her and then the rainbow table XD
457 is mainly a mobbing gun, Champaign gun is mainly a single target bosing gun for medium and heavy armor
W14 even then could be done with pretty suboptimal fleets
yes, she deals 95% less damage when out of ammo and off flag
does champy have higher damage then 457? or just that it can sync
Champaign gun does indeed haver higher alpha than the 457
nice
Of course, you could just swap uvh to flag after but why use her in the first place
never using 457 again
I see, thanks bro
How good is Wichita meta
Still best mobbing gun in higher worlds
do you need it to mob in higher worlds? 
Help building fleet for w13
Is the 406mm better than 457mm for boss
i use 457 for both
like 406 
14
like 4...?
trip mle, mk6, mk7, mk-1, twin skc?
i forgot fdg gun existed
Like the EU rainbow guns which one is more worth in gearlab
idk depends what u need
they don't really share the same resources
I need boss damage
Like in terms of the designs?
depends which boss
Is Eldridge retro’s gun damage good enough to use a dps gun?
Mostly for cruisers and carriers
Oh yeah speaking of Eldridge, how good is she after retrofit?
I’m ok for light and medium because most of my guns are HE
Does she finally viable for late game content now
406 champy gun
She’s good for Wichita meta
just use protocore on the designs
some cruisers and most carriers are medium though
Does anyone know where Akashi spawns in OpSi
Yep I’m saving atm
you use ap for medium though
Oh yeah mostly heavy cruisers
Yeah but the damage mod on my HE gun is 110 on med
so is mine
michita is a heavy cruiser 
im pretty sure its a chance encoutner but i could be wrong
RNG encounter yeah
explorables, hiddens, secures
Oh I see
whats the priority for augement materials in the event shop?
Afaik any map besides the elite boss maps
Ok but I don’t have any good AP guns
i guess youll have to work on that
Is 406 champy AP
yes
Oki
Why do I have so many blue augment modules in my depot, never noticed them. Where did they come from? Should I use them for exp when crafting unique augments?
1, clearing the module supply gives blues
2 they can only be fed for xp not used as stone replacement when crafting
Is that the weekly raid with Bel on it?
There's no better use for them than the xp then?
yes yes
You only use them for upgrading and crafting Augments 
you use them as bases for purple augs to save 2 cores
I think he's referring to the mats themselves not the blue augments 
But yeah like UniqueName said, what you can do with Blue augments is upgrading them to purple which is cheaper than crafting a purple augment from scratch
he said augment modules
so its probably the actual augment that drop since he saw them in depot
Hinde gun is the leftmost
if ur asking about loadout
double hinden
hinden drake
unzen drake are the common combination
if you mean which is her signature gun its the leftmost one
once we get the 2nd unzen gun, will 2 unzen guns be better for mobbing though
i guess not, since AP goes through multiple guys right?
most probably still use hinden drake
i use double hindygun atm
I just unlocked Indiana and I just retrofitted Colorado. Are either of those ships any good?
Indiana good, but why retro Colorado?
Isn't Nelson retro better
just a collector. I already have Nelson retrofitted.
Oh she's decent then 
wdym? who is “decent then”
Colorado
Just want to double check something so I'm not surprised: If I switch to developing another PR ship and then complete development in <24 hrs, I still have to wait out that 24 hour period, right?
yes
yep
okay, thought so wanted to make sure I remembered correctly

how much more dmg does haku do while fs5 compared to d30
like a 20% dmg increase iirc
wow
ima use my pr7 selectors for her
bad idea but i couldnt care less abt pr7 lol



~~its only 41 and ngl id prolly stay in pr7 just for more la9s ~~
that's just a bad deal tbh 
how 2 get more pr4 dr selector
what's your haku dev? 30 ?
fs4
im 41 bps off
just use the monthly shit la
then yes its a bad deal lol
Reruns maybe
iirc Vanguard's had PR4/DR4 bps
went right into haku
Musashi will have DR4
either way you can be patient about it, that shit is going nowhere don't waste DR7 prints like that
icic
+fs4 to fs5 isnt like make or break

like I said there's also monthly prints you can grab 
Why in the world will Musashi's rerun have PR4/DR4 prints, when she ran after PR5 dropped?
because they're the same 
in before sushi reruns in 2026
Typical gph misinformation
still works either way tbh
stop stealing my job smh
aren't you just the local street corner hobo 
pretty sure thats a profession 

How much mood is lost per battle
2 per battle iirc
Ty
2 per battle, 10 if sunk
No wonder why bell was at like 7 LOL
does spearfish converge
no
the rocket does in a sense, the torps nope
so it has both?
is it worse than the ryuusei saiun on boss?
they aren't comparable 
Spearfish is a Parallel Torpedo Bomber, with additional Rockets
Depending on the boss' movement, it's potentially worth considering anti-light, particularly on a weak TB slot
Outside of Ops not sure you'll use a Spearfish 
What's the absolute maximum comfort for the dorm right now? Cause I'm at 443 and it's getting brutal to get more
500+
F2P wise like 475, gem furniture can push it over 500. Overall not worth pushing comfort after 400
Is buying the DR prints a good idea?
Highest I've personally seen is like 507
Don't worry too much about it if you're at 443 though, since the returns at that point are miniscule (since the formula is an x/(x+c) graph, much like accuracy)
yeah I just looked up the formula and oof
lol
still just wanted to know how far from the current hard cap I was

you don't need the ca's?
Smh, Unique, now my react is out of order with what I was reacting to
CA selection is trash
is there even any good CAs
I thought none of them were good
tech is tech
thats really stupid lol
Hardly a reason to spend medals
that's the worst reason to spend medal 
they give barely any tech unless you invest a bunch of time and 4 gold bulins on them
I’m a new player just btw
which CAs are even available from MoH shop
Ye
Not worth the expenditure right now
And especially with that number of medals
Buy those Sp Cores tbh
Atago, Takao, Minnie, Eugen
oh that's... well that's certainly something 
I came back after 2 months but I can't see a returnee event?
Where is the returnee event?
you don't get it
Why?
game didn't think you were gone long enough
For UR bulins?
Why?
you werent gone for long enough
Those SP Cores don't count for your monthly fyi
id agree that SP cores are the number 1 priority every month
How many month should I have gone for to get the returnee event?
no one knows how it works but maybe only once a year would explain most weirdness 
be gone longer to find out
some people have gotten it after only a month, it almost feels completely random
I got returnee when I left for around 5 months a while back
It was feb -> july so it should be at least 5 months ig
all I can say is it's probably at least a month with extra conditions, I've not had consistent experience with it the past 3 years 
imagine farming returnee
the returnee campaign itself is 
I do have a side account for doing mobilization twice each year
ok i know this sounds crazy but i'm curious, can you change to old main UI and see if it's in usual place
unless someone can confirm the button is there in new UI, i know rookie mission exist at least
it's in the new UI
do you have the pics so i can update to wiki
pretty sure it's there since I've been doing it since CN anniv 
yeah gimmie a second
I like the old UI better, I switched the new one back on just for that screenshot 
i would like new UI if it's not all white
like mail UI is nice
Dark mode for ui
also different translation for both UI makes me hate it
Translation?
Are any of the PR7 PR ships must-have? I can finish off Daisen within the next few days
Nakh and the other dr seems promising
I know they're good, but that's why I specified PR ships
Which is new, left or right?
same but it's being misaligned hurt me
right is new
That's what I figured. They look a lot more crisp to me
none of them are must haves but is there any reason it matters if they are?
can't help to think that the buttons looks like btn btn-primary
It’s like they’re going for a modernish and smoother look
pog almost reset time
No, just wasn't sure whether it was worth saving the PR BP I have or just use them to get Daisen face prints out of the research pool
they do yes, but the color they picked hurts sometimes
modern is a mistake just look at Windows 11 
well getting rid of a PR from pool should mean a better chance for DRs anyway, if you're doing faces 
Changing things to solve a problem = good. Changing things just to change things, like they did in W11, is BAD
What happened in w11?
like this is dorm ui, fucking hard to read
W11 lore 
compared to this
They moved the start menu for one thing. It's now centralized instead of on the left side
all UIs after Windows XP were a mistake 👴
you can change it back its locked behind activating windows
they obviously did it so that you feel compelled to activate
you can change without activating
Did they finally fix the info box animation?
While that's good to know, it completely ignores my point, which is that there was zero reason to change it
so what happened to ch11 again
He was talking about windows 11, not chapter 11
yeah I got confused too 
Wait windows? Oh yea shits centered
nuh uh
ah yes Windows, the peak of GPH 
so what fleet do i need to defeat windows 8.1
Penguins 
use a real PC
I tried that and then found out they sold me an arch. Stuff's confusing yo
remind me when they have stable nvidia drivers
tried running AL on raspberry pi (disclaimer it didn’t work)
Which version of Pi?
Idk it was the palm sized one
huh each guild tech lvl needs diff contributions. i thought all need 100 contribution
If it helps it was the very shitty one

Goodbye gph
Unicorn vs Perseus?
unicorn is just better all around
in terms of heal too?
perseus heals backline slightly more but causes everyone to take a lot more dmg
so i doubt her heal actually makes ships have more hp
I see, thanks
Do I have to kill boss in the hard mode to use 1 try(ticket)?
perfect, thanks
What does this do?
unlocks a reseach ship
when is the jp server anniv?
in couple weeks
nice
i have 600 medal, should i just grab the 2 ship girl here for collection? 
Like I can start using the ship?
Do I just use unicorn here?
use dupes before bullin 
Sure, if you have no other uses/needs for the medals
Both also give useful tech
If you don’t need Purins might as well 
bullins? 
Purin is the nickname for the gold bulin
Because of what she says
ic ic alr thanks guys 
Between portland, sara, z23, nelson who should I refroit next?
portland
Check pinned messages
I don't even remember what's the choices tbh 
I think Sam has a description somewhere
Oh, right, pinned
Does it just unlock the ship for research or make it available for use??
unlocked and finished
Just 1 right?
yes
Thanks
if you're buying, buy the 15$
built, not dev30
what is the difference?
15 dolalr one built and give blueprints enough to dev30
that
i deally i won't buy pr1
Which PR do I buy
ideally none but if you really want, pr4
By ship its one of the ships here right?
the packs is just a time saver
you can get them without paying, but at least you get some headstart
We can exchange for shimakaze now???? Damnn
Would that be better than exchanging for shinano or nj
no
shinano still best option
nj or shinano is better
So I get to choose one of these?
yes
yeah it does, for some reason they use different name for series 4 
EN consistency
DNE
Well...I would certainly like Agir
time to grind 
How exsactly do you get these iron blood tech points?
/fleettech
Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
- Collecting the ship (~20%)
- Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
- Achieving level 120 (~35%)
-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD
Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.
For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
If you're relatively new, you can try to get some German ships from Divergent Chessboard War Archive
That's the sort of "standard" way to build up your German tech
Is mood applicable in that mode?
So I basically have to collect, MLB and level up these ships?
yes for both
How many do you recon I need? Do get 700?
And 700 only unlocks the ability to research her - after completing all research, then I can use her?
after you built her you still need the blueprint to make her good
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
i recommend this guide
I forgot, does Sovetsky's yellow skill count herself as one of the two battleships required? Her skill:
When the battle starts: increases your Northern Parliament ships' FP, TRP, and AVI by 5% (15%). While this ship is afloat and there are 2 CVs/CVLs in your Main Fleet: increases your Main Fleet's ACC by 1% (10%) and your CVs' and CVLs' DMG dealt by 1% (10%); if there are 2 or more BBs, BCs, or BBVs in your Main Fleet: increases this ship's Crit Rate, RLD, and DMG dealt by 1% (10%).
it should
Since I was thinking of crafting fleets with Sov/Admiral, and I wanted to see if 2 Battleships + 1 CV would trigger her self damage buff
She counts herself
Hello! I just wanted to ask if it would be a waste of resources if I used these to help retrofit a character?
I think depends on character
im in the process of trying to retrofit unicorn!
I personally wouldn't call it a waste, since resources are there to be used anyway. However, it does also depend on which character you are retrofitting. Ask yourself, "will this character bring an impact to my fleet"?
Oh then yea
Oh, Unicorn? Absolute yes. No questions asked. USE THOSE PLATES IMMEDIATELY!
Oh, then no, it is in no way a waste by any means lol. Unicorn retrofit is amazing
Unicorn is top tier for a reason. Use them NAOW!!!
nice! thank you so much! i've been getting everything else but the pieces i needed for unicorn!
I've used Unicorn retro even in 15-4. She's just that good
But since when does Unicorn retro need main gun plates? I thought she only needed AA/Aircraft plates?
im missing the AA plates!
Oh lol. You had the gun plates selected, so I thought you were exchanging for them
OH i think i clicked the gun platees on accident! i didnt even know i had these resources until right now
guys, these little/loli version of some ship, were released for world children day right?
i miss some of them, does these ship also add tech stat bonus?
they dont give tech bonuses
Is Charybdis a good ship?
quite the opposite
she's contender for worst gold ship in the game - she's worse than a lot of elites and rares
Oh
cute meido
oh she does the whirlpool thing
Eldridge's 2nd skill procs with both main gun and plane launch from a BBV right?
it will, assuming her skill isn't on cooldown of course (5s)
realistically, with said cooldown, it's probably gonna only proc once every 20-23s if your backline is synced
trade for aux plates
well assuming the timing is far enough apart it procs off both airstrikes and shelling from Kearsarge flag 
Kinda curious how reasonable that is in practice 
Didn't seem to work in WichiM at the very least
too bad it isn't rodM right now
Kear was ultra-cursed in RodM anyhow 
i mean, rodM wants you to desync
I'll let you know in 5 hours and 15 minutes, wasn't watching how far the times were apart to proc 
Oh
Right, those runs were table Kear
God, I've already forgotten that the version I normally run was double shell
Anyway, lmk how double shell fares
I can at least say table does not work
when's the next ultra-rare run
jp anni in sep
Hello everyone
newb question
Is there any way to complete hard stages that only spawn bosses?
alrighty tysmmm
you turn off clearing mode when selecting the stage on the map
Thanks a lot
Which purple equipment should I get first?
that might be part of why the CN comp I copied used Kearsarge gun
...im assuming you mean rainbow
in which, tenrai
BUT you should get the gold BPs for PR3 first, and craft 3 champagne guns - then go for the tenrai
this but with table
Anyone down to help a newcomer? Started yesterday and watched a few guides but the game is still kinda overwhelming.
step 1, forget all what you watch
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
don't follow video guides
Tenrai>×3 Champy>Georgia>whatever u want
forget about youtube guides yeah
fair enough
Ah, interesting
I wonder if Rice ever tried Kear gun
Not that it's needed, but still
I'm already 4/4 with the Eldridge version so I don't personally want to bother with any further improvements
Just gonna commit that fleet to the archives for posterity
I'd say champaign gun ahead of Tenrai
also BFG exists
same
i got tenrai first but i am biased since i like CV more than BB
thank you!
when i started i just leveled up ships and made random team comps
you should start getting more serious when you have more purple gear
Fair enough. Either way both are fine I putted Tenrai ahead of champy guns cuz Tenrai you buy it only one time while you can buy triple champy guns whenever you want since they resets every month
I'm at like the last 2-3 days before 70k anyway but eldridge comp does feel more consistent
you should use good ship right from the start
I'm doing that aswell but getting my as kicked. rn I'm at 3-1 with all ships around lvl 30
because there's a lot of good free ship nowadays
because you only get one Tenrai anyway from shop you don't need to worry about monthly reset and monthly quota
level your ships up a bit more or upgrade gear
Definitely
If only we got her earlier
unicorn, helena, portland and your starter are available right from the start, you can literally start using 3/4 of those ships within minutes of starting the game
Ye
know what to pick earlier is better than waiting until you run into a raodblock
i forgot witchia fight exists after i peaced out at 25 k lol
which is why you should get PR3 and 4 prints first, because you'll need more than a month for enough prints for a piece of gear, and all that costs only a fraction of Tenrai
aren't portland helena and unicorn later in the story? I'm currently chapter 3-1 so I'm currently collecting all the starters.
you can start using them from 1-1
they can be obtained from guild shop (you do not need to join one)
you can buy unicorn from the guild shop, and you should, shes one of the strongest healers in the game once retrofitted
so how would you recommend leveling, because I got some purple data sets or whatever they r called and used them to level most of my ships to 30
all of the starter fleet selection besides your starter DD are in guild shop, 2-1 also gives you one copy of Portland
is the front part of your fleet dying? and what ships are you using?
even with white gear, your fleet shouldnt be dying if youre using unicorn and portland
you can be depending on which stage and skills
at least not at ch3
Unicorn doesn't launch very fast and Portland has a lot of HP behind retrofit
she's not in the guild shop for me. There's Elite ship, Rare Ship and Limited Ship and then T4, T3 Gear and so on
unicorn is an elite ship
keep in mind Unicorn doesn't preload until modernization
not to mention a newb would hardly have any resource to retrofit any ship so early
so bascially get lucky for her?
pick elite ship you'll get a selection
you can select which elite ship
it lets you pick a ship. just select the option
oh that's fire
it's not random
one sec
you literally can just pick and buy all 4 of the recommended starter fleet ships
you can refresh the shop as well just costs a bit of guild coin
gotcha
get into an active guild as soon as you can, it'll help your guild coin count and basically never run out
colorado might be a next good pick after unicorn now that she can be retrofitted
so colorado or helena or just both?
she not in the guild shop though
she's in the guild shop for me
helena is more for single target
so go for colorado?
i meant nelson is not in guild shop
you can buy 2 elites and 1 rare with the guild shop currency you have at the start of the game
oh yeah I got her anyways
so you buy pennsylvania, unicorn and helena
what if you have pennsylvania already?
you can buy another copy towards MLB (max-limit breaking) her
dont spend guild coins on ships you already have
but yeah that too
unless you are out of bulins and desperate
you can save the coins then
purple bulins to limit break elites are relatively easy to come by
gold and rainbow ones however are not
its also why Prinz Eugen is said to be a newbie trap
These are my current fleets. So where should I put Unicorn and Helena?
replace either bogue or hermes with unicorn
for one, you dump the second fleet
actually yeah second fleet is unsalvageable
youd swap shouhou to unicorn, shropshire and gridley to portland and helena
you can 1 fleet up to ch10
you got nelson already so dont go and buy colorado so soon
so just focus on fleet 1 till ch 10?
at least till you reach chap 9
you will eventually need 2 fleets
and I also got javelin should I also make use of her?
when it takes more than 5 battles to get the boss fleet to show up
no need, stick with laffey
got it
and Indianapolis?
ignore indy
you use the mob fleet for ALL mob nodes, the out of ammo debuff doesnt hurt that much
boss fleet is ONLY for the boss node(s)
there's no problem buying dupes with guild coins, you don't really run out once you join an active guild and play actively
up to ch9 its easy enough with levels and okay gear to just use 1 fleet
you can save your bulins for other purple/blue ships that aren't in shop at all
where do I obtain portland?
guild shop, shes a blue ship
you should have gotten one from clearing 2-1
if not then Portland is under rare ships in guild shop too
backliners first
and once portland has a lot more levels you put her in the tank position, which is the furthest left position in your vanguard, leave laffey there for now because shes a much higher level
unicorn has priority for retrofit
also put nelson as the flagship
got it
since she is a battleship with a barrage
Should I still be opening all or nearly all of my T3 gear boxes?
so just pump all my bulins into her?
pump bulins into your backliners in general first
you can do the 3rd limit break when at 70 anyways
no reason not to
especially if u need gear and plates 
and unicorn can only be fully retrofitted at like, 85 or 90
so just use up your bulins
and try to do hard mode
alright, so where do I get decent levels? Bc till now I relied on T1 and T2 Data Packs?
I do want gear and plates, but t3 drops a lot more purple gear than I really need
sorties, either doing story or doing event
keep a few copies and disassemble the rest
or u can put copies u dont need on ships u are not using for now
XP is kind of bad in early game and your XP packs will be very limited
just keep grinding and pushing the event or campaign
Hii I'm new
Hi new i am boring
put a few ships in the dorm as well
Hello boring
not much but it is still something
I need game help
what help do you need
bookmark this
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
I'm new in game so idk much about it
How to get Wisdom cubes?
the newbie guide linked above should help
read tooltips
don't tap past tutorial
so just run the steel wings event till I can't go further? Cause rn I'm stuck in the campaign
depends on why you're stuck

I read all tutorial
I'm currently level 18
you just get them from a lot of sources by playing the game
DO NOT spend them all, you save until UR event
campaign is better XP than event for XP until you reach oil cost cap areas
I got
Pittsburgh, Indiana and bell with it
you ONLY do 1 light build a day outside of events
and leme guess no cubes left
not sure what you have to wot about, write
okay at least you pulled on event and not in perma pools
What sources required for cubes
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource
and do 1 light pool daily, save the rest for events
but its still not a good idea, just do 1 light build a day outside of UR events if you have less than 400 cubes
UR event not the only good events
so what would you recommend? put all the data packs that I have left (7) in my chars and try to push campaign or just rerun a campaign stage I can do?
So I have to read that much only to know
How to get more cubes?
do event
push to B3 at least
get the 3 star rewards
dailies weeklies and cube commissions
all in that page. then whale
got it
I did cube commission,
Doesn't work
It works. Rng
it's only a chance at getting cubes
Thanks 👍🏻
works for me
after B3 see if u can push more
if not come back here and ask for help
actually just to be safe what fleet are u running can u show me?
i recommend reading the website i gave. it's a separate one from someone gave you earlier
id recommend that you stop pulling on the current event, youll end up not having enough for the UR event next month
Does anyone plays war thunder?
save that for #al-general before mods bonk you
What event next month?
he just started
ch3
u can ask in #off-topic
it would be better 
Oh mb
yeah sure

also even if you are short on cubes never buy cubes with gems because it's a scam
I think u will need to MLB some of them before u do event
those levels just give them LB1 and start sorting some poverty gear and ch3 will stop being a problem
Also how to Increase Star of shipgirls?
also switch portland and laffey positions
LB with dupes or bulins
using a copy or bulin to limit break
jp anni event in september will have a UR ship
so vanguard all to lb1?
backline first
What is UR
if you can afford it, if not then main fleet first
the strongest ships
rainbow rarity
For free?
laffey is in the tank position
put portand there
free no
no, you have to spend cubes for them, you need 400 cubes for pity
it's going to be gacha, or sometimes we get one in event shop
Time for saving cubes
got it!
But can u explain me that
How to increase stars on ship
you need to limit break them
I run hiryuu and souryuu in mob fleet now and they are desycned by like 0.5s, is this enough?
I got 3 star Bismarck today
use copies or bulins to limit break them
then you need a gold bulin or another Bismarck to LB her
No material
( What material exactly?)
Now what's that 💀
for what content? if its lvling u dont rly have to bother
and please do not go limit break og bismarck
gold ships are too expensive to limit break for new players
leveling mostly, I want them unsynced so they can clear faster time efficiency wise
which is why you use purple/blue ships to begin with
one of these, but OG Bismarck is 🚮
But it got only 3 stars
do not use her. period
just don't use her
shes not a good ship
At level 38? Let the DD tank
just follow newbie guide and use the recommended starter ships
I won't be often at home next month so it will make a difference if I need 15min per 3 runs or 10min
Actually I got it from invitation letter
About 2s apart is what u want if u wanna notice the stagger
The strongest ships and UvH
it doesn't matter where you got her, just don't bother with SRs now
I wanted shinano
But Bismarck is famous so Choice it
can give one homing beacon and the other one the purple elite manjuu
desyncs them nicely 
I've got 12 blue Old Heavy Cannon(s), I see they are stock gear on Tempesta ships, can i scrap them or are these useful even though they also have a gold rarity version?
SR?
gold
This game is so complex....
is this the right way?
so right now souryuu attacks first, who would want which gear
what does the manjuu do
?
give souryuu the tenrai - her DBs are stronger
wait hang on SRs are purple
Not really. Everything up to 12-4 can be taken care of by overleveling your ships
depends on which region you play in
that backline has Nelson and Pennsylvania competing for flag position but that's quite good
in EN SR is gold
EN purples are elite and golds are SR
JP purples are SR and golds are SSR
oh i see

Dont ask why because we dont know
CN is both at the same time don't ask me why
ooh I will buy that
thank you, I got quite some help here XD
Anyone knows what's use of this?
for limit breaking ships
generic limit break material
tap on this
What rank ships?
purple and below
click on this
you need to unlock her and when you go to limit break a ship you need to select the option that shows ships above level 1
start with the newbie friendly fleet
and begin deciphering its mechanic bit by bit
no need to overwhelm urself with so many stuff
isn't this in tutorial
imagine reading tutorial
Imagine reading
I'm afraid not you don't get to LB with tutorial
What is that fleet
tbh the tutorial was kinda well not that helpful imo
have you read the newbie guide?
My fleet look like this
2018 small indie company pls understand
have you read the newbie guide?
yeah that's trash
too many gold ships
i think that's the 3rd time someone gave him that link
Idk how to limit break
you want 0 gold ships for a beginner fleet
at most 2
Indiana is fine tbh as flagship
but rest elite or blue yes
because you don't have what is needed for LB
which is why we keep telling you to read the newbie guide and build a starter fleet
Imagine getting Hood or Enterprise and saying meh, gold, get out of here
1 SR ship for starter fleet is fine if you get the right SR ship
ok yea probably exaggerated too much
holy shit that one was bad
I got 1 bullin , it will work?
but the problem is fi you don't know what ship is good you can end up raising a rubbish SR
but you want as few as possible because theyre too expensive to upgrade early
Which one? Old UI?
the tutorials
Prinz Eugen good trust me
depends on the bulin, there are different bulins for different rarities
your whole fleet needs rebuilding
@midnight magnet if you want to raise one golden ship mlb indiana 
If I wanted to read guide
Then why did I joined this server
my only problem is that doing max LB requires the shipgirl to be lv70 compared to the previous two LBs only requiring 20/30
Ig...
such wow
10/30
ok, so you will use these ships
Pennsylvania, Indiana, Unicorn, Portland, Helena, your starter
anyways
i suppose dorm is the way then
ok then, trash your whole current fleet
go to guild shop buy Unicorn, Portland and Helena
make your fleet Indiana/Unicorn/Portland/starter DD/Helena
Indiana barrage is off flag?
would you found the guide if you never come here 
also yeah people don't want to explain same thing 100000 times, that's why we link guides
everything not covered by guides then ask here
yes
If he is using Indiana already, might as well use a carrier like Saratoga or Ranger over Penny
+this is not spoonfeeding
ok then, trash your whole current fleet
go to guild shop buy Unicorn, Portland and Helena
make your fleet Indiana/Unicorn/Portland/starter DD/Helena
yes, put all those ships except indiana aside
I have unicorn and Portland
then use them
even spoonfeeding is not followed
Pittsburgh is really powerful
7 kills 3k DMG avg
so some/most Es and Rs have use?
smh
I kinda feel like we railroad new players into one exact fleet with little variations too much
she's not bad but you won't be able to afford LBing her and Indiana at the same time
and that's weak AF
in early game anything you use will looks powerful. because new players can't really see what's the actual good dmg is
rookie mission would want portland / starter to be MLB anyway
Pittsburgh is really not bad but the point is he can't afford it
i exaggerated too much there, 1-2 is fine. but yes helena, your starter dd, portland and unicorn are very good for you
No Pittsburgh is really good at playing
90 affinity
it's like playing star rail thinking 1000 dmg is a lot then you see people do 3 mil dmg per hit
a limit broken ship will do more than that
you come here to ask us and we're telling you it is what it is
soooo i assume jeanne d'arc isnt pairable with most early game ships then
But how to limit break exactly
With 1 bullin
that's the point, you can't afford to