gameplay-help

[plain saffron]

how much. same as normal SR/elite?

[fleet jacinth]

[plain saffron]

thanks

[fleet jacinth]

Anyone know Indiana build time?

[wind hazel]

5:00:00

[fleet jacinth]

Thanks, bud

[torn latch]

damn nagami never LB-ing META ship before?

[plain saffron]

i do but never pay attention

[torn latch]

so she will come as free ship then?

[plain saffron]

iirc JP said event reward

[cursive lark]

Is tenzan kai worth crafting and upgrading to +10?

[jaunty vault]

ryuusei exists so not really

[cursive lark]

Eh, there's a way to get ryuusei other than crafting?

[jaunty vault]

research

you can upcraft tenzan kai into ryuusei but if you enhance your tenzan kai, you're just wasting coins

[plain saffron]

yes as budget

[late flame]

i did one for science

[plain saffron]

wait this is from normal craft right?

[cursive lark]

I guess I have a saiun from the bps

[plain saffron]

yeah it is, good enough for early game

until you get better converging TB

only until +10

[jaunty vault]

fwiw tenzan kai has more alpha damage than saiun (at +10)

[cursive lark]

Aight thx yall

[eager mulch]

But tenzan kai isn’t gold

[forest palm]

[balmy wharf]

Does meta showdown give ship XP?

[wide kestrel]

Why can't I add certain ships to meta showdown fleet?

I'm trying to add my usual ships that I use for general purposes (because poor gear + poor ships = take whatever) but somehow can't

[balmy wharf]

Have you enabled a search filter that causes them to not show up?

[wide kestrel]

Uhhh I have all set... i think...

[balmy wharf]

Are the ships currently in battle in campaign/event map?

[wide kestrel]

Or is there a possbility Opsi ships cannot be used in showdown?

[balmy wharf]

All my ships are in opsi and still usable in showdown

[tame jungle]

try restart game to see if it still happens

[wide kestrel]

Ah wait I'm dumb, I was searching for NJ in vanguard spot

See this is what happens when I drop out of game for two years

[torn latch]

Arknight sticker jumpscare

[digital vault]

Where in OpSi do we specifically get UR weapon materials? Since I've never actually gotten one

[jaunty vault]

they're rare

[eager mulch]

what ur weapon materials

[digital vault]

Do they drop or something or item exchange

[eager mulch]

3 shop 1 arbiter guaranteed, rest rng from abyssals and cats

[digital vault]

Cat exploration thingy?

[eager mulch]

sure

[crimson rock]

Who should i grab with the SR letter?

[tame jungle]

check pinned messages

[cursive lark]

Welp I'm shooting myself in my feet, all of my torp misses

The game was good, can't even use conv torp before having a root ship

[eager mulch]

you can use them

[ornate narwhal]

how do i defeat B3?

do u have to defeat both the bosses?

i can’t even defeat the fox…

[jaunty vault]

if you can't do B3 then farm B2

[undone plover]

better B1 tbh

[whole crypt]

B1 definitely faster

[calm panther]

is the event aux any good?

[eager mulch]

depending on how you use it ig

[calm panther]

like what does the drone do O-o

[lavish hare]

Which are the best packs to buy in terms of value for a new player?

[silk helm]

After 2 tenrai and completed pr 4, do i go to pr 5 focus next?

[exotic flax]

is there no way to speed up PR mission unlocking?

[undone plover]

5$ commander level pack if u mean spend irl money
if not nothing just use gems on 3rd dorm slot > 2nd floor and dock space after

[lavish hare]

Tyvm

[undone plover]

only with 💳 for 1 ship per pr1-4

and it is not worth it

[eager mulch]

worth is relative

[exotic flax]

can I know how, even if I'm definately not going to do it

[eager mulch]

pr development packs in the shop or smth

[calm panther]

what is the right way to use it?

[eager mulch]

idk it’s an fp aux i never use vanguard fp auxes

[calm panther]

fair enough... I don't have much time to play I'll skip then

[eager mulch]

it also makes the EX mode hard

[exotic flax]

wait I think theres been a misunderstanding, I don't want to complete the mission faster, I want them to unlock sooner

[eager mulch]

You unlock them sooner by waiting for them to unlock

[late flame]

as one who has bought em all (except pr4) its just a timeskip at the cost of well, spending cash

[undone plover]

this thing in the shop
only works on the gold (PR) ships
insta unlocks them and u can only use it on 1 ship per season up to season 4

otherwise there is no way u just have to wait which everyone does

[calm panther]

you technically get points if you just build ships

but probably not a good idea...

[sturdy badger]

Left or right?

[tame jungle]

harbin since you can coin anchorage

[late flame]

i would take center if cubes isnt an issue

[sturdy badger]

Middle one. K

[late flame]

nah its a bad idea lol

just take harb

[keen sable]

i would take the far left or far right that you aren't showing

[sturdy badger]

Question eh, when face research appear, should I take them?

[late flame]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[frank pulsar]

usually you pick them if they're relevant ships from the season you're focusing

[sturdy badger]

Okeh

[frank pulsar]

if youre focusing gear though then focus rigging analysis

[sturdy badger]

Noted, thanks

[whole crypt]

it'll be at the cost of finishing the ships significantly later

[late flame]

well, one can improve lousy ships with good gear, but good ships cant do jack without good gear

[cobalt rapids]

I cant read moonrunes

[late flame]

just read roman numerials

[whole crypt]

imagine knowing the researches by the time and icons

[jaunty glade]

Can I use the tier list (https://slaimuda.github.io/) for gearing or is it better to use Sam's lists?

[undone plover]

both work
just read their notes
sam goes into more details iirc

[frank pulsar]

sams should be more accurate

[tame jungle]

sam's is easier to use

[silk helm]

After 2 tenrai and completed pr 4, do i go to pr 5 focus next?

[late flame]

if you have done all of pr4 sans mp sure

[silk helm]

when do i go to pr 6

[eager mulch]

when you’re done with 5 and 7

[late flame]

i wanna say at least 1 plygun and most of pr5 done

[keen sable]

come back next year and ask

[eager mulch]

im almost done with pr2

[silk helm]

pr 2 is after 5 ,6,7?

also is it worth cubing pr 5?

[keen sable]

if you haven't finished pr2 you should get more coin

[soft raft]

(besides FdG) in terms of priority, yes

[undone plover]

dont cube unless u have like 1k coobs

[soft raft]

going all in on cubing aint worth it in unless you have like at least 800-1K cubes

[tame jungle]

cube responsibly kids

[silk helm]

okok, i have 900 rn but ill wait for the UR event to happen

[cobalt rapids]

Cubing pr5 isnt worth it

[whole crypt]

you don't need 1000 cubes for buffer, but you should be aware what you're getting yourself into when spending cubes for reserach

[digital vault]

are combat data packs only meant to be analyzed?

[cobalt rapids]

U cube seasons u dont want gear from or flex on new pr release

[digital vault]

i had a lot lying around from series 1-5

[keen sable]

probably

[whole crypt]

they can be spent for PR XP grind progression but it's generally not worth spending it that way

[eager mulch]

is cubing amagi-chan worth it

[cobalt rapids]

Definitely absolutely not

[keen sable]

imagine not having two for free

[digital vault]

why not sure

[whole crypt]

XP is easy to grind unless you really casual... in which case you probably won't have much use for the PR ship even if you rushed the XP grind with CDPs

that said if you want to rush a PR ship for waifu then

[digital vault]

o so that where its used

i only remember using it once

[keen sable]

the two edge cases could be something like newborn whales and someone who plays once a year but wants waifu

[eager mulch]

smh not an amagi-chan believer

[eternal basalt]

According to the Amagi cult you're getting Amagi 2 anyway. Lets laught at them.

[torn latch]

what\

[whole crypt]

EN likes to speculate "we're definitely getting x ship because reasons y and z" and then shitpost when they're wildly off

just wait for announcements

[eternal basalt]

The best were Soyuz on a KMS event, and D

[torn latch]

I had 1.1k cubes during alsace event and now drained into below 600 gems cuz of bad luck in two events after that

I'd say 2k cubes is the safe numbers for cubing PRs

[whole crypt]

the main thing is when you're still catching up with research you'll also be rather short on proto cores, so unless you just really casual and don't care then proto cores definitely more useful than XP

[keen sable]

cubes as the fourth best option looks very different from cubes as the first option

[eager abyss]

how does fleet power work in the ladder?

[inner delta]

multi copies with different limit break counts, if have retrofit count, UR gear for them increase more

[eager abyss]

thanks

[sage acorn]

Question, do you guys know when re runs
Generally happen? Working on getting all the dragons from IB missing Zwei and Rosen possibly others

[warm latch]

at least 2 years from event to rerun in most cases

[sage acorn]

Ah much thanks

[vernal osprey]

Which Stage gives more exp? 12-4 or 13-4?

[frank pulsar]

13-4, but youre definitely losing at least 1 slot worth of exp for an aa carry

i dont suggest it unless you need the coin as well

[vernal osprey]

I see...

HOLY, 2400 OIL????

[muted wind]

i think exp/oil is actually worse in 13-4 with oil cap, if just by a small margin

[vernal osprey]

WHAT IS THAT STAGE? AMERICA???

[plain saffron]

did you 100% it yet

bcs 12-1 is 888 oils per 3 run

[vernal osprey]

Yes, but I don't think I wanna farm it

[plain saffron]

idk how you get 2400

[muted wind]

(13-4 double-costed with oil cap would be 2353 oil for 3 runs)

[vernal osprey]

Yeah, I rounded it off to 2400

[vernal osprey]

I'm looking for the best EXP/Oil Stage

As it seems now, I think it's still 12-4

[torn latch]

I always pick 12-4 because of the golds

[muted wind]

yeah, i just redid the math also because i wasn't sure, but 12-4 is slightly better for exp/oil. 13-4 is better for coins/oil however

[vernal osprey]

I see, I don't need coins now, so 12-4 it is

A shame that I haven't unlocked the Second floor of Dorm yet

I could've gotten even more exp and faster with taht 20% boost

I don't have enough gems before alright, I spent it on Dock Space...

[signal pollen]

is it viable to run a perseus and a uni retro in my mob fleet

[sage acorn]

Wait there is a benefit to floor 2?

[plain saffron]

12-1 is best exp/oil for 12-1 above

[vernal osprey]

Increase Morale, Mood Gain increase

[keen sable]

If it doesn't die its viable

[signal pollen]

yipee!

[vernal osprey]

What...wait SERIOUSLY????

[sage acorn]

Oh my god.. farming would be so much easier if I knew this...

[vernal osprey]

Is he actually gaslighting me or am I dumb...

[keen sable]

12+

[vernal osprey]

12-1 or 12-4, that's the question

[sturdy badger]

So... I have this habit of hoarding stuff for later use from Nikke and I don't know why...

[keen sable]

12+

The factors that make one better or worse than the other have nothing to do with xp/oil

[sturdy badger]

I have this urge to open them...

[soft raft]

Eh, eventually you'll end up with a fuck ton of those at one point as your gear situation stabilizes

[signal pollen]

i heard 12 is fuel efficient but 12-4 gives more gold. i just grind 12-1 cause im weak xd

[cloud reef]

I totally missed that the game's having an anniversary-

Is there a good banner to pull on or should we hold back?

[half plover]

just open if you still lack gear

but chances are you will dismantle 99% of it

[soft raft]

If you have less than 400 cubes, would rather save for the extremely likely JP Anniv UR

[sturdy badger]

Hold on, I'm checking what gear I'm lacking (poverty option)

[vernal osprey]

Oh shi, I almost forgor JP Anniv Event is in a week

[cloud reef]

Proud owner of 26 cubes here. When would that be? Nvm... 1 week??

[sturdy badger]

Eh, no need

[soft raft]

Looking to be Sept 12th

[half plover]

there's nothing wrong with opening them

[sturdy badger]

Guess just don't open them

[soft raft]

Zuiho IS NOT part of the JP anniv

[cloud reef]

Interesting... Do we know who it'll be? Sorry, I'm not really in the flow of AL

[vernal osprey]

I know

[soft raft]

Then why did you say 1 week then?

[soft raft]

Stay tuned for the Livestream on the 7th

[vernal osprey]

Oh I forgor to write down a week or two

[cloud reef]

Neat, alrighty. Thank you guys!

[sage acorn]

Wait another event it took me almost 300 cubes for pits :panic:

[vernal osprey]

or three, if you want to get technical

[atomic abyss]

That's why we save for URs...

And not roll on non UR banners

Or at least have 400 cubes to standby

[vernal osprey]

Also, you don't need to get more URs to MLB the UR, you can just purchase the UR Bulins to MLB so you don't have to waste cubes

[sweet delta]

I can agree with that

[vernal osprey]

Sometimes I can give good advice, sometimes I can give Eldritch levels of Horrid Advice just for the giggles

[atomic abyss]

And such horrid advice isn't appreciated here.

You wanna give horrid advice, do it outside this channel.

[sweet delta]

Giving horrible advice for giggles

[atomic abyss]

Otherwise you'll get warned for trolling.

[vernal osprey]

lmao, don't worry I don't do it here or even in this server, but to my close friends who started AL a few months ago

[inner delta]

ender can give warn for giggle too

[vernal osprey]

Everything that gives people heart attacks can be for giggles

[smoky palm]

How good are these? and where do they rank among other torp bombers?

[soft raft]

timing sidegrade to pre-existing converging torp bombers

[sweet delta]

Timing sidegrade as the slowest one

[atomic abyss]

Slowest, but the most damaging

[sweet delta]

I haven't made one yet, And i don't plan to until I need it, which may be never

[vernal osprey]

Is Jeanne d'arc alongside with Anchorage at the same fleet overkill?

[smoky palm]

compared to what tho?.. like whats it better than and whats it worse than?.. just tryna figure out where it ranks..

[atomic abyss]

Slowest doesn't have to be bad anyways
Sometimes you need slower tbs to sync

Ryuusei, Saiun Kai, Ju D-4

[sweet delta]

They don't have high damage so it may be under kill

[atomic abyss]

The rest cannot be compared directly

[sweet delta]

La-9 is enough slow for me

[vernal osprey]

As in Tankiness, Main DPS can go to the backline

[sweet delta]

Depends on the enemy

[cloud reef]

I've never really gotten a ship from the lab, mostly due to how painful the grind is-

I did intend to go for Hakuryuu, but my main issue is getting Tech Points. Is there a good guide you guys could recommend to grind those as quickly as possible?

[vernal osprey]

This is for Boss Fleet btw, I forgor to say that

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

[cobalt rapids]

Be here for jp anni

[atomic abyss]

Well Hakuryuu isn't listed there

Because Sakura tech is much easier to come by

[sweet delta]

It's easy to find but not easy to accumulate

[cloud reef]

Thank you! I'll take a look. And what do ya mean "easier"? Is it just... lots of ships you get for Sakura?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[exotic wren]

Well campaign is filled with Sakura ships

[atomic abyss]

Just a matter of limit breaking them

[cloud reef]

I see, alright. Thanks! I mainly want Hakuryuu cuz she looks cool. Then maybe work on getting Shimato later on, since she is equally cool lmao

[sweet delta]

Just wait for free Zuihou and the JP anniversary event next month

[exotic wren]

since I'm here again I should probably change my nickname huh

[smoky palm]

they're way better than barracudas tho right?

[cloud reef]

Is Shimanto actually worth it? Before I commit my time and resources into a ship that's not as worth it-

[atomic abyss]

She's one of the best ships in the game lol

[atomic abyss]

Barracudas are parallel torp bomber lol
They cannot be compared to vit-2, which is a converging torp bomber

[smoky palm]

just curious how they compare to like gear lab ones that arnt wyverns, or the Ryuusei since I can craft one Ryuusei

[burnt idol]

does the high efficiency oil plan thing double xp aswell? im tryna get the anchorage 2m xp

[cloud reef]

Gotcha lmao I'm really out of the AL thing. Returning player at lvl 64, I feel like I'm lvl 1 again with my knowledge practically gone

[sweet delta]

Something like 2% longer reload and 2% more damage than ryuusei

[exotic wren]

Yes, double everything

[atomic abyss]

Barracudas are compared with Wyverns and Breguets (parallel)
Vit 2 is compared with Ryuusei, D-4 and Saiun (converging)

[exotic wren]

Vit?

[atomic abyss]

^

[smoky palm]

ahh, what would you say the top 5 Torp bombers are then excluding the URs?

[cloud reef]

Lots of words I personally am not getting (yet)-

Btw, the guide you sent me really has no Sakura advice within it. Should I just... level the ships of highest rarity first?

[exotic wren]

No uh isn't vit the white NP TB that's parallel?

[atomic abyss]

There's 2

[exotic wren]

Oh

[atomic abyss]

The black, mode change one is a converging TB

[sweet delta]

@cloud reef

[atomic abyss]

It depends on what you're using them for
It's not as simple as listing them

[cloud reef]

But... No Hakuryuu?

[atomic abyss]

Converging TBs are better for bosses, parallels are better for mobbing

[smoky palm]

Well how about top 3 converging and top 3 parallel?

[inner delta]

all the converging is timing dependant

[atomic abyss]

The converging torp bombers are all practically equal
What you choose depends on the timing you need to sync with

[exotic wren]

They're Sakura ships and JP Anni might have Sakura ships in banner so more Sakura fleet tech

[smoky palm]

is there a way to know what ones are parallel vs converging?..

[atomic abyss]

Parallel wise
Spearfish does the most damage, but it lacks interception

The wyvern is preferred to be crafted since it has interception
The Breguet from core shop is a discount wyvern

[sweet delta]

The top 4 converging are saiun, ju87d4, ryuusei, vit2 mode change, in no particular order.
The top 3 parallel non-UR are breguet, skypirate, and vit2 in no particular order

[atomic abyss]

Check the torpedoes they have
Torpedo Sakura, Ironblood are converging

[sweet delta]

Crimson axis = converging, azur lane = parallel except for pr7vit

for now

[wary timber]

question for Shinano since i got her. her torp squadron is guaranteed to be converging regardless of whatever torp bomber i use on her ?

[atomic abyss]

Her skill squadron one is always converging yes

[wary timber]

so in that case. is the PR7 VIT still the strongest converging torp

[sweet delta]

I'm not following the logic there

[exotic wren]

They are equal...

[wary timber]

what i mean is. if i shoved wyverns or a spearfish on that squadron. would they be better than the PR7 VIT

[exotic wren]

If you're hitting a boss (single target) with a parallel torp = not good, if you're hitting it with converging torps = very good pat pat

[sweet delta]

I still don't follow, but the answer is 🔮 depends on enemy

[atomic abyss]

What you use for the torp bomber slot depends on the use

[wary timber]

anti boss. opsi abyssal. think of it as a timed strike with Implacable and Enterprise

[atomic abyss]

Then it should be converging

The converging you use depends on the timing though

[undone plover]

The skill is not affected by her loadout
Kinda like BB barrage
No matter what gun/plane u use it is the same thing

[south gull]

how do you get 100k event points? is it even worth for milestone event rewards (where you get submarine copies)?

[exotic wren]

Don't bother, Nope

[undone plover]

55k is worth
Beyond that up to you

[steel jacinth]

Napoli 8h or Random* Blue G 2h30m?

[undone plover]

What is random blue?
Pr7 blue?
Also do u want to finish the season faster or napoli?

Oh G 2.5h 🚮

[steel jacinth]

G2h30m is PR7, and oh-

[wary timber]

So would this main fleet setup work in opsi against abyssals. Basically timing the strikes in accordance to Implacable's skill to deliver one hell of a crazy torp convergence strike on it

[exotic wren]

....you just put their launch time within .2 seconds and you're good

[undone plover]

Do u have a Q1h?
If the goal is to finish napoli faster the the gold research
If not I would try and reroll on shorter research if u have the option

[wary timber]

I need to mention. I'm manualing this shit

[atomic abyss]

Yes, although enterprise isn't the best choice admittedly

[steel jacinth]

I already used my reset cuz I had no Qs, Ds, or Gs on the last roll

[wary timber]

Getting AVP , Haku and Nakhimov would be the end of me. Especially Nakhimov

[atomic abyss]

And shinano without haku means you need to use 2 more Sakuras

AvP isn't high priority - you already have impla

[undone plover]

Hard choice tbh
I would take the napoli if u are on ship focus

[hollow gust]

Just take the g-236

[wary timber]

In terms of operational CVs.. my next closest available one is Taihou followed by Graf Zeppelin then Saratoga

[exotic wren]

Wait it's 0.2? Ren senpai?

[hollow gust]

Always been

[cobalt rapids]

0.2s for safe 3-4 strike

[exotic wren]

Yeaaaaa stick to enty then

[atomic abyss]

Taihou

Unless you have enough Sakura in the front to proc shinano skill

[undone plover]

Unless u use ark royal

[hollow gust]

Just use your CV fleet to clean up , they aren't gonna do much

[exotic wren]

Is her damage with aug comparable enough with a lucky enough enty?

[wary timber]

Any further back it'll be CVLs followed by Ark Royal and Aquila

[atomic abyss]

It definitely isn't gonna compete with enty

But if you don't have 2 more Sakura in the front to begin with it's very 🤨

[wary timber]

In any case. They're nowhere near ready for combat

[atomic abyss]

Sure kazagumo can be one of them

[exotic wren]

Eh be like me, just slap Azuma in there

[atomic abyss]

Assuming he has Azuma or Kaza

[exotic wren]

Ouh

[atomic abyss]

If he has neither then yeah, enty is better because you're not gonna be able to proc shinano's skill

[wary timber]

I only have Sakura DDs. Kawakaze and Shimakaze

Tho Kitakaze isn't far behind

[atomic abyss]

Then enty it is, and yeah, don't expect much damage from that comp

[wary timber]

Eh I still gotta work on Shinano to begin with

[hollow gust]

Shinano gets 15% avi and Acc from her buff , still will take enty over taihou no matter the ship situation

[wary timber]

Muse ships don't count ?

[eternal moth]

Yes they would, if they're IJN

[atomic abyss]

No they would not

[eternal moth]

For Shinano's buff?

[atomic abyss]

Muse ships are muse faction

[eternal moth]

META ships are their own faction, Muse ships are the same as normal

[wary timber]

Still Akagi muse is more for mobbing

[atomic abyss]

Look, is it that hard to type out an answer instead of using reacts

[wary timber]

Still sucks that most IJN CVs and CVLs are not that good

[atomic abyss]

I can never understand that fucking logic

Because you get people asking further

[hollow gust]

X is pretty obvious

[atomic abyss]

It's not about obvious or not

If you're so displeased with people answering wrongly
Answer first instead of leaving emotes lol

You're clearly here after all

[boreal wagon]

why anwser something that was already said above your message tho

[atomic abyss]

This isn't the only occasion

[boreal wagon]

fair

[wary timber]

I'm out. Gonna make sure my Shinano gets deployed. And soon

[atomic abyss]

There's a reason we've gotten multiple complaints regarding emote use lmao

You doubt me, but you're not the ones receiving complaints so

[hollow gust]

People love to bitch , what a surprise

[atomic abyss]

But it's a valid point though

Answering questions with just emotes is plain lazy lol
And sometimes outright misleading

And slow mode isn't an excuse

[hollow gust]

Early question is a easy yes and no , complaining about about emote use is the only confusing part of it

[atomic abyss]

I'm saying in general

Because the usual culprits happen to be the ones here

[hollow gust]

Sort by faction, you get muse ship , there are no sorting by muse faction.

[tame jungle]

It doesn’t work if you’re trying to correct someone though

[atomic abyss]

The best cases are the ones who leave vague reacts
Explain nothing and leave, even when asked for more clarification

[eternal moth]

You need an explanation, but the emotes can at least let others know there may be something right or wrong

[tame jungle]

then at least provide the explanation

[eternal moth]

I AM the one that provided it

[hollow gust]

What do you want to explaining for that question to be? no, your wrong?

[eternal moth]

Explain why

[half plover]

tbh I've never seen emote reacting to questions anywhere else and imo it takes the same time to just text yes or no

[jaunty vault]

whats cooking chat

[atomic abyss]

Goose, you and unique have the habit of and not explaining anything until prompted

Lol

[jaunty vault]

thats true

[half plover]

[eternal basalt]

This was no answer?

[jaunty vault]

muse ships are technically two factions

[atomic abyss]

Yes my answer was wrong in this instance, but hamaal was the one that provided the clarification

Not the people leaving the reacts

[hollow gust]

He was right and was first. You responded with a wrong awnser ? So reacting X was a problem ?

[eternal basalt]

We need to repeat hamaal, what's the use of that...

[atomic abyss]

Reacting X but not explaining why it's wrong is the problem

This isn't the first time goose

You've done it, many many many times

If you're just gonna react that and explain nothing
Why react anything at all

[eternal basalt]

I'm fine with peolle x'ing me when wrong

[atomic abyss]

That's fine, but at least follow up with an explanation

[eternal basalt]

It did

[eternal moth]

In this case, but I can see where he's coming from. I've been and had no idea why

[whole crypt]

I mean part of the reason we stop at reacts is slow mode, if it needs clarification then sure

[atomic abyss]

Exactly
No one gives correct answers all the time
At least follow up if you need time to type

[rapid grail]

h

[hollow gust]

👋

[rapid grail]

Getting a random murmwat on some of my takes and THEN NOT AT LEAST EXPLAINING WHY

at least in the reasonable amount of time I'm in this channel

[eternal basalt]

Single-armed abuse

[jaunty vault]

gph moment

[whole crypt]

sounds like the average gph experience

[jaunty vault]

ender i think this topic needs to end

[rapid grail]

Ender you have the power. Institute that

[eternal moth]

No no, we need to keep beating this dead horse

[atomic abyss]

You have no idea how many times we've discussed banning reacts entirely

[half plover]

I think you can make a rule to still allow yes reacting but follow up explanations with vague doubt what or no emotes

[jaunty vault]

that sounds inefficient

[atomic abyss]

Yep
That's why we didn't

[hollow gust]

Sounds dumb, just giving things that's Mods can do but normal people can't

[atomic abyss]

But ultimately, this is a culture we rather not have

[whole crypt]

reacts are fine for things that are just simple answers since full replies are more clutter and stick you in limbo for 10s

will Eldridge do better than Laffey II for solo SP while costing 1 oil less

let's see how this works out

[atomic abyss]

Fair question

I don't thiiiink she'll do better but she should clear it

[wet badge]

Does the 2x gem thing refresh every update

[hollow gust]

Every anniversary

[whole crypt]

every anniversary

[wet badge]

😭

[whole crypt]

I don't see how that is an issue unless you whale quite heavily

[eternal basalt]

It JUST reset

[atomic abyss]

Yeah so uh, if you forgot to buy stuff before the update well

[eternal basalt]

(unless cn/jp player)

[whole crypt]

also you get 2x for every pack, it's not like you buy one and don't get double bonus for the other packs

[sage acorn]

Is there a way to farm these main guns I have no clue 🤔 I just hop on throw the game on auto and say it was good farming(PR)

[stark quiver]

The first slot main gun from the top is the pr6 UR gun and the next one is the unzen gun from unzen event that’s unavailable

[whole crypt]

the first 2 rainbow gun is in PR6, you need to do proper PR to get enough of them
3rd is from Unzen event not available now
disclaimer those setups are bad

[paper mural]

So I've been in a position lately where, even though I'm still building ships constantly, my chip amount is still increasing fairly steadily. Made me wonder if there comes a point where you no longer really lack for cognitive chips

[sage acorn]

the makeable one from opsi?

[paper mural]

Might be worth mentioning that I do take cube researches when I'm above 800

[atomic abyss]

The issue starts when you start to level up ships to 120 for tech

[sage acorn]

oh is there somewhere I can go to get better setups? I've been trying to follow these as much as possible on most ships I got

[eternal basalt]

That wont happen

[stark quiver]

You honestly just ask in this channel and provide what you have currently

[paper mural]

I'm currently just doing it for the sake of building them. Should be the same thing consumption wise, right? Unless we also bring the idea of EXP chipping them to 120 into play

[atomic abyss]

Most people will not have cog chip shortage, they have an array shortage instead for leveling ships to 125

[whole crypt]

Eldridge made it but proc'd damage control, literally only killed just in time

[keen sable]

that is simply not true. you do not need every ship at 125

[cobalt rapids]

Depends how casual u grind

[keen sable]

happy?

[sage acorn]

there isn't a one setup works overall though right? AP and HE rounds change what's best for what area?

[cobalt rapids]

If ure soft capping oil u prob wont face cog issues

[frank pulsar]

it depend on the player imho
if youre lazy like me you wouldnt be short of either even without buying much of either

[atomic abyss]

I mean, yes, you don't need every ship at 125, I'm saying it's more likely to get array shortage then chip shortage

[whole crypt]

damage is significantly lower than Laffey II so fights were taking longer but she went into boss fight with more HP than Laffey

[eternal basalt]

I got PLENTY of Array, but no chip...

[hollow gust]

You don't have to 125 garbage ships , you only have to 120 . That's a 400+ ship difference. You can build up arrays ; unless you are done , you will always need cogs

[paper mural]

Well, fair is fair, these days it's not very common for me to go down to 0 Oil, per se. But I usually grind D3 on events until I have all items from the shop + the shop ship MLB'd, and afterwards I just grind as much WA and 13-1 as I can

[whole crypt]

the question here is not "most people", it's "for how long"

[atomic abyss]

Yeah guess some of the theoreticals were (as expected) wrong

Eld aoa just... Doesn't hit much

[wet badge]

Whats a good meta ship available rn

[cobalt rapids]

Wa is w10 eff and w13 u might run carries so makes sense

[eternal basalt]

There's only one META right now

[atomic abyss]

For Hinden, yes that's is true
There's no one set up fits all

[whole crypt]

"most people" experience array shortage for a while then not again once you have good ships 125'd
and then not have shortage of chips and arrays, it's just for how long you are short

[cobalt rapids]

Depends on the type of player

[atomic abyss]

Fair point

[cobalt rapids]

Some1s garbage is another’s treasure or how it goes

[exotic wren]

gimme those garbage then, I'm down to 100+ arrays

[whole crypt]

gear depends on content, there's not a clear set of loadouts unless you just copy dalao comps

[paper mural]

To be honest, the only reason I'm doing WA is just for the sake of MLBing some ships I can get from it. Pretty much just because, I don't really see myself building them any time soon but I eventually probably will, so better to MLB them with their own copies than with gold Bulins

Otherwise it'd be purely 13-1 spam

[sage acorn]

MLB? Major league balling?

[whole crypt]

max limit break

[cobalt rapids]

I estimate around 4 elite+ ships or higher in good eff grinding for cog income to go negative

[whole crypt]

why 13-1 anyway

I'm not saying it's bad, but it may not be the best

[paper mural]

Coins + a steady income of cog chips

[paper mural]

I currently need Unicorn, Perseus and that Curlew to ensure nobody dies, so I guess that means I am at all times just building 3 ships

[whole crypt]

what are you most short of now besides oil

[paper mural]

If I ran 12-4, which requires just Unicorn of me, it'd be a different story. That explains some things

[sweet delta]

That is not good efficiency

[atomic abyss]

...wait why curlew

[whole crypt]

even if you wanted to carry 13-1 you can carry with 2 ships that's really bad eff

[atomic abyss]

I do remember her having some sort of AA skill
Or was it protection skill

[whole crypt]

2 AA gun slots

[paper mural]

Uni and Percy alone won't cut it. I then figured it must be because I need more AA or something, hence Curlew, who's got 2 AA guns

[keen sable]

she doesn't

[sweet delta]

She has above average but not very good AA

[eternal moth]

You shouldn't even need Uni for 12-4 if it's safe. Assuming you have decent gear, you can run without a healer and have no issues, assuming you have a second fleet killing the boss

[paper mural]

My fleet dies every now and then, so I added her for the sake of consistency

[whole crypt]

if you're really short on chips than 13-1 is probably fine, otherwise 12-4 better for coin and 12-1 better XP/oil

[eternal moth]

This is my current farming fleet, for example, and the vanguard started farming at 98

[whole crypt]

but I'd rather just low cost 13-1 if I'm that desperate for chips

[cobalt rapids]

Uni and sandy instead of percy would be a better pair but sandy takes vang slot which is bad longterm

[sweet delta]

Where average includes gray CAs and DDs

[paper mural]

Coin-wise, I can actually report the opposite. I'm pretty sure 13-1 has actually yielded me more coins than 12-4

[whole crypt]

Curlew and Curacoa just have 2 AA gun slots that are meh eff and not very high AA stat

[paper mural]

EXP-wise, you're right, simply because at least in my case, the number of ships receiving EXP has decreased, so less to be built concurrently

[whole crypt]

I'm very sure 12-4 has better coin/oil than 13-1 it's just how much you run

and none of this is directly including how many ships you're leveling at once

[paper mural]

I just realized, I compared the final coin rewards, but not how much Oil the two consume on average. The former is higher in 13-1, but I'm not sure about the ratio, I kind of assumed the Oil spent would be the same

[atomic abyss]

i did a quick check

[sweet delta]

I'm not so sure about that

[atomic abyss]

if the wiki is to be trusted

[sweet delta]

It's not

[atomic abyss]

the take away here is that it's close enough
ultimately, i suppose the biggest reason for choosing 1 over the other are your other goals

[sweet delta]

The 12-4 number is the result of forty something runs, and the 13-1 or all of the range results are from really vague estimates or individual observations

[whole crypt]

I follow CN table 12-4 is slightly higher coin

[eternal basalt]

[paper mural]

So according to this table, 13-1 sometimes gives less coins and sometimes gives more than 12-4, for pretty much the same Oil investment, barring the error of margin

[atomic abyss]

or i guess, which other birds you want to kill with the stone

[whole crypt]

[paper mural]

12-4 allows me to bring more ships to be leveled while still guaranteeing a consistent clear without anybody dying. 13-1 sacrifices that on my end for a steadier income of Cog chips

Then maybe I should consider switching between the two depending on my cog chip reserves

[keen sable]

curlew aa is like worse than koln. maybe if you're coping on buffing the carriers for aa.

[sweet delta]

That table seems to include retiring ship drops

[whole crypt]

yeh it does, but it's not like the difference is significant from 12-4 drops over 13-1

[keen sable]

that's how it works, yes

[paper mural]

To be honest, at the time, I picked her simply because Sandy was on the boss fleet and I don't think I had any better alternatives at the time. But now Guam is a thing, maybe I should put her in

And maybe that way I could carry with just Uni and Guam, to cover heals and AA and protect the fleet, no longer need a second healer in my main fleet

[whole crypt]

well how are you doing for chips, because if you're not running out yet I'd definitely not pick 13-1 if it takes you that many carries

[paper mural]

14k or so cog chips

Maybe I should go back to 12-4 for the time being, build more ships and take advantage of my current situation

And down the line go back to 13-1 when I reach, like, 1.5k or something. Decreases spending and increases income

[stark quiver]

That’s not rly a food cog chip situation

[light flax]

How do i get coins as a new player

[paper mural]

it's the best cog chip situation I've ever had

[whole crypt]

just carry 13-1 with 2 ships then

[sage acorn]

just curious to see if I've been using oil right, hard D3 on the event gives me around 2%PR pre run at 263 oil I stopped at 7-3 since I just afk farmed for like 7 months just to get my first PR. It takes around 13k oil for 1m xp does someone have the oil pre 1m on 12-1?

[keen sable]

long com is only way if you've done everything else available.

[silk helm]

which should i choose?

[keen sable]

it's called D3...

[whole crypt]

there aren't a lot of efficient or quick sources, I'd go for long comm like unique said if you can't hit up any stages with cost cap, how new are you?

[undone plover]

U push to oilcap map with clearing rewards.
Currently event D maps are a good goal to try and reach

[whole crypt]

I'd probably take a Shinano for LBing

[shadow yarrow]

How does the halford plane compare to sea suisei in a vacuum

[undone plover]

U can get nano for cheaper LB

[whole crypt]

in a vacuum they're both rubbish because you don't use ships with seaplanes

[atomic abyss]

well i mean for halford

[silk helm]

ty

[sweet delta]

4 planes vs 1 plane

[whole crypt]

for Halford it's one clear choice because floatcat launches extra planes

[shadow yarrow]

Im bound to make more and more of them over time, so i want to ask if i can replace sea suisei with it for what little its worth

[cursive lark]

If you unlocked meta showdown, you can do meta dossier which gives 6k gold per 200 brown coordinates

You can get like 42k with 1400 coords

[tame jungle]

i doubt that will be a very viable way if they're new

[whole crypt]

you can make more but like I said you basically don't use seaplane ships anyway
for what it's worth float cat offers more as a fighter but you won't really be doing anything with it

[sweet delta]

Is it not 500 points per 100 coords

[whole crypt]

tinytims have like no AoE but the bombs on seaplanes are meh anyway

a new player isn't going to be doing OS yet anyway

a new player that can afford to dabble in dossier can probably at least grind 9-1 as well

[tired condor]

if i only use iron blood subs, this one is good right, its steel btw

[keen sable]

2% 13k oil (is a vanguard no mvp scenario) so the equivalent on 12-1 is 11.3k oil

[whole crypt]

the KMS talent is pretty meh

[sweet delta]

Lacking wolf and flame is bad

[cursive lark]

You got 3000 coins each at sync 300 and 1000, which is 2 fights, or 200 coords

[sage acorn]

much thanks I'll push to 12-1 as soon as I can

[tired condor]

ive never seen wolf or flame

[whole crypt]

flame is a hard roll but I'd definitely not use without wolf, since RLD

[tired condor]

this ones got a good third skill but everything else sucks, still usable?

[whole crypt]

that's one of the better rolls for an Oscar

[stark quiver]

its got potential to be gud

[whole crypt]

why do you think the 2 BB talents are bad

[keen sable]

like bottom tier reroll which makes it basically better than almost everything else.

[stark quiver]

probably saw the +50 hp and
but 8 fp gud

[whole crypt]

the worst thing on that roll is the fact that it's 1+1+1

[sweet delta]

Maybe he prefers full fleet talents like forest, destiny, miracle

[whole crypt]

wind

[stark quiver]

wind mentioned, pulling up lvl 30 wind cat

[tired condor]

idk i never pay attention to mewofficers and now my entire cattery is full of sr cats

[keen sable]

come on mountain is decent and at least possible

[tired condor]

i cant do anything other than feed bad sr cats to other cats right

[stark quiver]

mountain is decent for some1 dying in w15
it helps a lot

[stark quiver]

yea just try to find a good (or half good) one and then throw other cats at it

[cursive lark]

If I have 100 cats, will people help me to filter out bad cats in a thread?

[keen sable]

personally i only feed sr cats to same type

[stark quiver]

Speaking of cats should I reset this one?

[hollow sail]

you should ditch it

[cursive lark]

Why are you levelling them to begin with?

[stark quiver]

no better cats

[hollow sail]

elite meowfficers are pain

give yourself a very good start at least or don't bother imo

[whole crypt]

that's true for all cats not just elites

[cursive lark]

It is fine to just ignore cars and just feed them right?

Have 30 level 30 cats and 1000 sr xat box or something

[whole crypt]

you want to pick good cats to keep then feed other cats to them if anything

[hollow sail]

it applies even moreso for elites is the point

[whole crypt]

randomly feeding cats off doesn't do anything

[whole crypt]

why would it be moreso for elites than SRs

[keen sable]

i think they meant not using cats and only touching them

[cursive lark]

No I mean feed them, I don't touch cats

[hollow sail]

because you only can have 2 starting talents... so you are far more at the whims of RNG to end up with something solid, whereas with an SR cat it's a bit easier to manage and you can still end up with something solid fairly easily even if one of the starting talents is more just "good" than "excellent"

[stark quiver]

YO

[whole crypt]

that depends on how much compromise you're willing to make for the cats

you only need to roll 2 "good" talents on an elite cat but you need to roll 3 on an SR if you're trying to max it out

[hollow sail]

getting a good starting cat will always be out of your control, i was only really talking about the part in which you do have control, which is what kind of cat you are actually investing in. and for elites if you're not starting with ideal or near it's just a waste of time/coins

[whole crypt]

I consider it a waste of time and coins as well for SR cats if you don't start with a great base

[sweet delta]

An imperfect starting gold cat can become as good as a perfect starting purple cat with around the same effort

[cobalt rapids]

Elite boxes are proportionally higher in number than sr cat boxes so theoretically ull get better elites before u get same or better sr

[sweet delta]

thats a nice theory

[forest palm]

except that's pretty inconsistent, and wrong

[rose cosmos]

Fargo seems to love me, I have 4 dropped copies of her now while farming D3, is she worth 5*?

[forest palm]

basically a lot of Elite Cats that pop with a rainbow skill are majority of the time EXP skill, you will find a proportionately high amount of Elite Cats with a rainbow skill, but far, and few in between will have the desired one, equally so with the Unique Talents

[sweet delta]

what else are you going to do with the copies, retire for medals?

or retire all 4 of them to save dock space? Fargo happens to be good

[cobalt rapids]

I wasnt talking about perfect cats

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure Fargo is not worth keeping at 5*, like any other SR ships you're going to actually use

[cobalt rapids]

[forest palm]

gib 54 beyard prints

[stark quiver]

What does the exp skill do again?

[jaunty vault]

on cats?

[forest palm]

just that, they give more xp when fed to other shitters

[cobalt rapids]

Increases sortie xp for specific hulls

[jaunty vault]

theres two types of exp skills for cats

[whole crypt]

there're 2 XP talents but the net result is the same

[cobalt rapids]

The one in battle is worse

[stark quiver]

Time to raise my xp cats

[whole crypt]

the difference is insignificant though

[stark quiver]

Insignificant cuz they both ass?

[sweet delta]

both exp talents together is better than only one

[cobalt rapids]

The that increases xp gain is good for xp fodders

[tired condor]

is accuracy useless

[cobalt rapids]

The one thats in battle relies on u using those cats or it does nothing

[whole crypt]

accuracy is useful when it is

[cobalt rapids]

Far from useless

[jaunty glade]

At Ch8, when should i care about war archives? im at cap

[crimson glacier]

well missing causes you to do 0 dmg

[stark quiver]

Do event

[jaunty glade]

after event is over? pick a war arcieve randomly if im capped in campaign?

[cobalt rapids]

Are u done with event ? Usually wa is PP before oilcap and DC for ib tech when ure pr grinding

[tired condor]

asw is bad right

[jaunty glade]

im at the point of just grinding c2, will be a few more days before i can progress further

[whole crypt]

then just keep doing C2 until you can do D1

if you can't clear D1 at least you're not going to get very far in campaign anyway even if you get past the commander level gating

[stark quiver]

Yes that’s a cv cat
unless unicorn

[whole crypt]

ASW talent is basically bad on any cat

[stark quiver]

~~b-but what about my full asw cat ~~

[forest palm]

[cursive lark]

So if I want to do cats, I just do /cats in botspams?

[cobalt rapids]

Thats fine

[jaunty vault]

read the riceist cat guide

which you can find in /cats

but it is worth noting

[cobalt rapids]

Yea thats fine

[jaunty vault]

you're fine

[whole crypt]

yeh rainbow significantly improves vanguard uptime

[cursive lark]

The most important one are bb, cv, and ss cats right? Do I need to care much about the vanguard focused cats?

[whole crypt]

not really

[forest palm]

you do want 2 Lv 30 Gold Cats for Ops

[cursive lark]

What does that have to do with Ops?

[stark quiver]

Cuz cat nodes

And higher cat lvl and rarity higher change for good stuff

[cursive lark]

Oh what

[forest palm]

something something read the in game tips

but basically Cat Lv, and Cat Rarity affect Cat Nodes in some manner, devs didn't specify exactly, but that's the gist of it

[cursive lark]

I didn't put my lvl 30 cats on mob fleet

[vague fable]

so anyone knows whats the bgm in A3

[sweet delta]

A3 map? A3 in boss battle after boss spawned? A3 mob?

[vague fable]

boss theme yeah

the Amagi boss fight theme

[digital vault]

Is Drake Meowficer obtainable in usual sr box?

[stark quiver]

No, obtainable in tempesta event

[sweet delta]

it's just amagi boss theme

[digital vault]

Dang

[stark quiver]

Tempesta was almost a year ago right?

[atomic abyss]

last halloween, so ye

[stark quiver]

Damn I’m getting 👴

[vague fable]

many thanks, it slaps

[atomic abyss]

originally from crimson echoes i assume?

[stark quiver]

Personally I like the standard boss theme

[forest palm]

[paper mural]

Do all UR retrofits require 3 gold Bulins?

[eager mulch]

3/4 do

[atomic abyss]

all except yuudachi

[ionic bramble]

is the plate refund from gear lab a full refund?

[cobalt rapids]

Yes full plates partial coins

[hallow iron]

Anyone knows what is this gun name?

[cobalt rapids]

Mk 4 smth, its in gearlab before 457

[ionic bramble]

Prototype twin 406mm Mk4

[hallow iron]

Thanks, which faction btw

[tawdry sluice]

Eldridge Retro seem worth investing in?

[worldly pewter]

very expensive be wary

[tawdry sluice]

Not sure what her new skill does

[cobalt rapids]

Probably

[ionic bramble]

is there anyway to see coef of gears without going to wiki

[cobalt rapids]

Nope

[ionic bramble]

I wish they put more stat info into the game

[tawdry sluice]

That's my problem with skills, had a look at Eldridge retro and the explanation doesn't really help much

[cobalt rapids]

Which part

[tawdry sluice]

The special attack and being based on skill's level

Is it only the level that affects it or will guns also provide an impact on it

[eternal basalt]

When the battle starts, increases this ship's AA by 15% (25%). When your Flagship fires her Main Guns or launches an airstrike: targets one random enemy and performs a Lv.1 (Lv.10) special electric attack (DMG is based on the skill's level; 5s cooldown between activations; decreases the target's SPD by 60% during the attack and for 2s after the attack ends).

[cobalt rapids]

All barrages use that wording, all dmg barrages have a scaling stat so its based on both slvl and stats
That stats are in #pixelmine

[eternal basalt]

It's a barrage, gun doesn't impact it

[tawdry sluice]

Okay, I think I understand how it works now, ty

[vernal geyser]

Should I scrap ships for legendary refroits from medal shop?

[tawdry sluice]

No, should end up with an abundance after doing hard stages for a month depending on hard chapter

[cobalt rapids]

Medal shop is a bad deal

Costs too much

[vernal geyser]

okay, i just get those damn blues always 😄

[tawdry sluice]

What hard chapter on you on?

[vernal geyser]

and can't compose for legendary

7 atm

[tawdry sluice]

Push that further, you'll end up with a lot in no time

[vernal geyser]

oil goes to event so don't have to much

[cobalt rapids]

Do ur 3* hm for guaranteeds

[vernal geyser]

i'm doing but need to 3* star all stages to do hard it costs to much oil don't have that much

[stark quiver]

then just wait

[vernal geyser]

i will

no other options

im good 😄

[eternal basalt]

Do secretary story with SR ships

[vernal geyser]

what's that?

[ionic bramble]

certain ships have story which give rewards

[ornate narwhal]

who’s on the next banner?

[cobalt rapids]

No idea

[ornate narwhal]

is it the UR banner?

[vernal geyser]

war archives? or where do I find it?

[subtle tinsel]

who is better roon or illus?

[stark quiver]

wait wrong answer
nobody knows

[stark quiver]

there is no comparison

[subtle tinsel]

oh okay

[eternal basalt]

Zuihou

[subtle tinsel]

but they are worth buying?

[worldly pewter]

was it confirmed ?

[forest palm]

literally look at #game-news

[ionic bramble]

tap the shipgirl when she's your secretary (can someone confirm if secret ticket is needed?)

[eternal basalt]

NNo, but each event of that kind does offer at 1.4%

[stark quiver]

illus is decent
roon not rly

[shell willow]

you dont need illustrious as new player

[mystic topaz]

Curious as to the oil cost associated with "sortieing with subs", does the cost incur when you click on the sub support button (assuming the subs are in range) in battle? How about when they surface on the map and fire a torpedo, is that an oil cost?

[stark quiver]

if subs are sortied they take a certain amount of oil
its just like a normal fleet would

[worldly pewter]

the cost oil when they go into battle

[cobalt rapids]

They cost oil when called in battle or when move on the map using the command

[mystic topaz]

So even if you don't use the sub button, as long as they are tagged in battle the oil cost incur?

[eternal basalt]

No

[worldly pewter]

they need to join the battle

i think the cost is calculated after the battle finishes

[stark quiver]

sub fleet = normal fleet

[mystic topaz]

Sorry, i mean subs in the traditional sense, as in submarine, but is SS more appropriate here?

[stark quiver]

both is fine

if subs are in battle
just think of it as tagging anotehr fleet along

[eternal basalt]

subs can be SS, SSV and IXS so subs is easier

[mystic topaz]

Right

But the surface torpedo on the map, only seems to cost the subs ammo and not oil, is that right? And what exactly does that do? I see a broken shield icon on the enemy on the map, but in battle, i don't notice much

[eternal basalt]

Of course most are elite and she is SR so we have to see...

They start with their HP reduced

[mystic topaz]

Thanks

[ionic bramble]

does this apply to ddg missile?

[worldly pewter]

i thought that she was a banner ship not meta

[eternal basalt]

She is?

[worldly pewter]

[eternal basalt]

Oh, last year was also SR... also 1.4% https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Anthem_of_Remembrance

[worldly pewter]

but what with the reduced HP comment ?

[eternal basalt]

For subs torpedo

[ionic bramble]

do JP anniversary contents come to the game after 12th sep maintenance? I kinda need to calculate my cubes

[eternal basalt]

Yes, 12th, 19th and 26th

[mystic topaz]

that surface torpedo.. that reduces hp amount can't be that much otherwise there would less incentive to deploy them in battle, right?

[ionic bramble]

it's 3 weeks content?

[vernal geyser]

Just noticed i haven't done bunch of side missions where I will get legendary refroits

[eternal basalt]

It depends on ships and cats but I get about -20%... so it's quite nice

[ionic bramble]

good to know, I'm saved barely enough cubes to guarantee with some luck

[mystic topaz]

How about bosses?

[eternal basalt]

Can't affect bosses

[mystic topaz]

Figures

[worldly pewter]

from now until the end of the event is 1month 2w enough for a pity if u have some coobs

[eternal basalt]

Don't pull for Zouhou, just grind the event

[ionic bramble]

that's like 240 cubes from missions so I should be fine

[cursive lark]

we don't know whether zuihou powercreeps unicorn

[eternal basalt]

Still grind, what else for 2 weeks you gonna do

[worldly pewter]

these 1.4% banners have reruns ?

because uni is enough for everything for now
so missing on a better uni for the next UR is the best approach

[eternal basalt]

Foch's was latest, now I was reminded of her

[worldly pewter]

it was an elite

[eternal basalt]

Why focus on rerun, grind her now

[sage nebula]

whats the armor for ex boss?

[eternal basalt]

After that is Marseille, she hasn't rerun yet

[cursive lark]

Who's EX boss?

[ionic bramble]

if Zuihou came out as a better unicorn, aren't people just gonna use them both?

[sage nebula]

event ex

[shut kernel]

how to get more adaptability in opsi?

I literally have ships like this and struggle on hard arbiters

[worldly pewter]

it might depend
since now uni is enough for everything
who knows there might be content where u won't be having the luxury to run them both

[stark quiver]

some heavy armor thingy

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Stat_modifiers

[cursive lark]

Was trying to search wiki for armor, tried to ask what ship it is to help

[worldly pewter]

i repeat c1 as part of the daily grind
in the past i was buying the adapts from the ports

and sometimes from akashi

also showing 1 ship won't tell much

[cursive lark]

Having ships like this without root doesn't help

Ok sorry if u finish haku u have avp

[shut kernel]

wdym root?

[stark quiver]

thats because harbiter is medium armor

[cursive lark]

Tldr visit main and akashi shop, clear zones

[shut kernel]

I'm aware of that I change my gear depending on the boss

[stark quiver]

thats a heavy armor setup that prolly doesnt even sync

[worldly pewter]

yeah i never seen haku with 2 junkers before

[cursive lark]

Maybe sync if avp use the boombox bird?

[shut kernel]

I'm just blaming this adaptability thing as I always get capped out to 130 adaptability

[ionic bramble]

that looks quite low

[worldly pewter]

just grind some C1

[shut kernel]

the last time I tested it, it syncs with helena

[undone plover]

can also do your hidden zones. they give adapts

[ionic bramble]

have you cleared most nodes?

[shut kernel]

i dont have avp

[worldly pewter]

[ionic bramble]

what about implac

[stark quiver]

but does it sync with the other cvs?

[shut kernel]

I just full auto opsi for the entire day and just fight bosses

[eternal basalt]

As said, all +adaptability are listed at https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Stat_modifiers

[worldly pewter]

against harby u want max adapts no matter what the fleet is imo

[stark quiver]

202/203/156 or something

[shut kernel]

i didnt knew I can farm those

[worldly pewter]

203 on both yes

[shut kernel]

I havent even reached 150 wth

[stark quiver]

then farm & buy

[cursive lark]

Why, didn't buy to 150 with vouchers?

[shut kernel]

I do have her but on a different fleet

[shut kernel]

it only reach to 130

[worldly pewter]

using converging torp without a stop ?

[cursive lark]

Juat clear 10 C1 zones and buy in the shop

[worldly pewter]

have fun landing them i guess

[cursive lark]

Wat

[eternal basalt]

You check the anomalys in every zone, right?

[shut kernel]

I still have the og nagato shina haku setup

[cursive lark]

Iirc it reach 150

[cursive lark]

Your torpedoes did not fudge?

[ionic bramble]

replace nagato with a stop should be fine I think?

[cursive lark]

Like they actually hit?

[shut kernel]

no nagato is there cuz I like her

[ionic bramble]

based

[worldly pewter]

better to use wyverns at that point

and be glad when u reduce its hp to 70%

[cursive lark]

[ionic bramble]

sometimes I feel like the slow from AvP isn't enough

[cursive lark]

Enough if synced properly

[worldly pewter]

yeah it is very tight time wise

[cursive lark]

Bet that tech's not even +40 rld

[ionic bramble]

I despise syncing AvP, the in game rld buff kinda mess me up
(but i'm trying)

[cursive lark]

Here is the Renhex sync calculator

Just put your ships and gear it shows each airstrike cooldown

[candid meteor]

gear info doesnt include avp reload boost?

[keen sable]

it does not

[sweet delta]

it does not

[candid meteor]

good to know

[sweet delta]

you can approximate AvP by multiplying by 0.97

[unreal bloom]

How is the relatively new ib bb gun crafted from odin gun?

Haven't seen any info on it anywhere

[sweet delta]

it's not good anywhere except against San Diego CM

[keen sable]

how bad would subtract 0.7s be for common avp setups? hmm looks like an error of maybe 0.05s

[unreal bloom]

What does sandy cm mean?

[ionic bramble]

challenge mode?

[unreal bloom]

Ah

[eager mulch]

renhex made a sync calculator?

[signal pollen]

After all pr4 and Plymouth, who should I prio next?

[keen sable]

any one of the pr5

whoever your catchup was

[unreal bloom]

And what do the red and green colors on the +13 guide mean?

[boreal wagon]

red is high priority and green is niche

[unreal bloom]

Thx

Are 3 bfgs +13 enough?

[keen sable]

+13 what you need

[finite crag]

Are there any reasons to not just spend all my blanks rn and get halford done

[stark quiver]

no

[shell willow]

just do who you like

[finite crag]

Not about who i like just getting it done

[stark quiver]

theres no rush really

[undone plover]

the only reason is if u take g research and cube reasearch it is better to leave blanks for last
since if u dev30 someone and then take g research after their BP can still show up and u will have a useless BP at that point (until FS5 becomes a thing)

[astral mesa]

Any suggestions for Chapter 14-4 perfect Clear? Any recommendations for the Mob fleet Vanguard would also be helpful

[stark quiver]

depends who u have

[atomic abyss]

the fleets in the /w15 command, though they're for w15 can work for w14 too

[slow fox]

Ender spotted

[undone plover]

if u cant make those fleets make a thread and post your dock

[worldly pewter]

what does perfect clear mean

[sweet delta]

Maus enjoyer spotted

[undone plover]

I assume he means 3 star?

[worldly pewter]

shouldn't it be the same as 14-3 ?

[stark quiver]

well its harder

[atomic abyss]

i would assume 3* ye

[shell willow]

14-3 was harder for me than 14-4 cause of out of ammo battles

[sweet delta]

for 3*?

[shell willow]

yeah

[sweet delta]

i have to disagree

[forest palm]

I assume on lethal, at which point I'd have to ask why...

[stark quiver]

for me 3* 14-4 was way harder than 14-3

that might be bc i didnt know abt getting maps to safe

[crisp estuary]

[midnight pike]

Is there actually a difference between T3 and T0 gears ? what do those even do ?

[fluid wraith]

Can someone check for me if they removed the survey link from notice , or it just me

[crisp estuary]

T3 means the gear has 3 rarities
T0 means the gear's rarity is it's only rarity

[atomic abyss]

practically speaking, there's **usually **little difference between what they actually represent

[sweet delta]

no difference inherently. But T3 gear implies the existence of a lower rarity version of itself at T2 and/or T1. Some T0 is better than T3, some T3 is better than T0

[warm condor]

Is this gold stronger if i can +6 it?

[midnight pike]

🤔

[forest palm]

Quad 356 is just straight bad

[sweet delta]

that gold at +13 is weaker than the purple at like +8

[midnight pike]

noted 👀

[atomic abyss]

you will not swap from that purple gun for a VERY VERY VERY long time

[warm condor]

Just go with this then?

[warm condor]

Oh nice, good to ++++ it then?

[shell willow]

i cant find it in game but it might be because i already filled it

[atomic abyss]

what main gun you choose, as always, depends on the situation - the guide says that much

[sweet delta]

for the main gun that's ok as a baseline

[atomic abyss]

if you're too lazy to think, just use the purple gun for everything

[sweet delta]

the second column for aux guns is wack

[crisp estuary]

Well, he will in ships which uses twin 410mm purple

[warm condor]

What about enterprise? Should I replace with purple?

[crisp estuary]

Is the 410 purple even still relevant? Maybe I'm just showing my age

[fluid wraith]

I didn't fill it and I can't find it either , guess no 5 cubes for me

[atomic abyss]

the twin 410 kai is prob your best barrage gun that's not the 457

...it's also the best choice for HE with musashi i think

[crisp estuary]

Oh right, Musashi uses it

[fluid wraith]

Thx for checking

[shell willow]

np

[undone plover]

it is still in events tab for me in my alt but gone from main after I filled the survey

[atomic abyss]

i havent done it, pretty sure it's still there

[fluid wraith]

Ah

[undone plover]

check your events tab not notice

[fluid wraith]

So that's where it was

[fluid wraith]

Thx , I was searching the notice all this time

[atomic abyss]

...i shd probably go do it now

[crisp estuary]

You already filled it. You told me, remember?

[fluid wraith]

?

[undone plover]

u can check mail and see if u have the cubes if u didnt delete it

[fluid wraith]

Anyways guess I will go fill it , thx guys

[undone heath]

Is there any way I can turn this off?

[atomic abyss]

no

just as a note - you are getting exp penalties

[warm condor]

okay to enahce this more?

[stark quiver]

yes
100%

[atomic abyss]

there isn't anything better - only niche stuff for timing purposes

[agile nacelle]

yahoo ggs chat

[sweet delta]

[agile nacelle]

my first retro

[undone heath]

But the auto search gets off

[warm condor]

Flat?!

[agile nacelle]

i have my reasons

[atomic abyss]

Ok, so why post here?

[warm condor]

You guys sure? For Enty

[agile nacelle]

i need to make sure if my uhh build is good or trash

[warm condor]

That HP gain is ...

[atomic abyss]

just take a break then

put your ships in the dorm

[atomic abyss]

you're using it for the avi stat, not HP

[undone heath]

That's sad

[warm condor]

Worth it to unlock all 6 dorm spaces?
For my girls?

[atomic abyss]

it's "alright" at best

passes as poverty

[atomic abyss]

3 slots + 2nd floor (which doubles your slots)

[stuck stirrup]

If you can afford it, all 12 is great

[agile nacelle]

how to improve it? ( like is there any building guide for dd's or z23 herself)

[warm condor]

I dont understand why my vanguard is at 120 morale
Main is at 60 -_-

[atomic abyss]

it's very expensive

[warm condor]

2800 ruby for all...

[sweet delta]

Money isn't a problem for this player

[atomic abyss]

... if your ships are in the dorm, and fully rested, they should be at 150

[warm condor]

Do they not regen mood if I am in battle with said Fleet?

[atomic abyss]

they do

but is your whole fleet even in the dorm?

[warm condor]

What is with the 60 points discrepancy between vanguard and main fleet. I was out for 5 hours

[warm condor]

Yes all 6 of them
3 in 1st
3 in 2nd

The difference should only be 10 pts for 1st and 2nd floor no?

[atomic abyss]

taken from:https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[atomic abyss]

2nd restores faster than first actually
did you restart the app?

[warm condor]

While I was asleep? Yes it was not open.
Since I started playing again about an hour ago, not yet

[atomic abyss]

just make sure it's the correct ships that are being rested (say your event fleet) and not your other fleets

...and make sure they're not sinking or anything

[warm condor]

Oh wow...those extra points in AVI sure did their job

[agile nacelle]

thank u

[stuck stirrup]

Do level-capped ships count towards exp harvesting for shipyard?

[warm condor]

For ENTY
Does perseus want AVI too? Heal is based on % of ship being healed no?

[atomic abyss]

yes they do

[atomic abyss]

ALL carriers want avi
it is their only way of doing damage

even supports or healers want avi

[warm condor]

See I started at 150...so I am not sure why there is a huge difference. This is the only fleet i run

[atomic abyss]

end battle faster = less healing needed

[warm condor]

Oh lol

Wait..it is only 10 pts according to the floor

[atomic abyss]

[stuck stirrup]

Do you not have any decor

[atomic abyss]

im confused, what's wrong with this?

[warm condor]

They are in the same fleet - Shouldn't they have the same value for mood?

[atomic abyss]

doesn;t matter - comfort affects exp gain only

[atomic abyss]

are you sure both started at 150?
and that they aren't sinking?

[spring bolt]

ship sunk = -10 morale

[warm condor]

Yes, I was asleep for 5+ hours
No they do not sink

[sweet delta]

are you sure they're all in dorm?

[warm condor]

Yes I am - I just checked when I looked at the comfort

[spring bolt]

are you using script to farm? if they are all in dorm, they should have full morale by now
or the game is bugged, you just need to restart and check again

[agile nacelle]

wait how to get rainbow gear?

[warm condor]

Anyway, I doubt I will reach 80K event currency
That was my only reason for wanting more mood

[worldly pewter]

gear lab research and events

[atomic abyss]

why do you even need 80k

[warm condor]

whatever the item at the last tier of the event is

[atomic abyss]

100k and 80k are just t5 boxes which guarantee a gold gear

which are... definitely not worth the grind

[keen sable]

restart, sometimes mood desyncs and doesn't regen

[warm condor]

Oh, then nvm lol. Just gonna buy the recommended item in shop then

[agile nacelle]

is that research academy?

[worldly pewter]

add to that the protocore shop

[agile nacelle]

how to get the blue thingy

[atomic abyss]

basically, rainbow gears aren't worth gunning for at your point in the game

[agile nacelle]

ok

[atomic abyss]

not all rainbows are worth getting

[worldly pewter]

can we consider the rainbow oxy too

[atomic abyss]

scam of the century

[worldly pewter]

[keen sable]

that is one way

[coarse heron]

So for the unique augments is there any specific one I should build first or just pick one that sounds cool for a ship I have?

[undone plover]

depends who u have and are using
some augments are not worth building

atm best one is probably sandy augment for mid-late game player
others worth crafting are mainly hood and saratoga if u use em