gameplay-help

[remote yarrow]

but early on just use that gun it's fine

[worldly pewter]

also early game u won't care much about the armor type
since there won't be any versatility in the depot

put the best of what u have in the said slot

[remote yarrow]

Holy it's 6AM

[worldly pewter]

[coarse heron]

oh now I remember, I did +10 to purple Roomba cause I was like "it's just downgraded Roomba right?"

[remote yarrow]

time flies when you have insomnia cya gph

[polar lion]

Does Flames Aggression stack?

[frank pulsar]

it should

[inner delta]

it does

[polar lion]

Only among the 2 kyats in a fleet?

[inner delta]

well yes

cat doesn't cross fleet buff

[muted ember]

actually,is Neptune better than Saint Louis(cause I wanted to do Saint Louis before I friend said go for Neptune)

[polar lion]

If let's say I hab another 2 kyats in sub fleet with flames, do their flames crossfleet buff. Oh they dun

[crimson glacier]

both saint and nep are both really bad

[whole crypt]

they're both meh and I'd recommend Saint Louis because you're basically guaranteed USS vanguard XP with a starter fleet

[south sequoia]

Ideally you should just ignore both and grab roon for more kms tech

[whole crypt]

Saint Louis is fair game for Brest tech

[south sequoia]

That too

[whole crypt]

KMS tech is easier than French

[south sequoia]

But I'd personally only really think about her until im done or halfway done with pr4

[worldly pewter]

brest is way too far in the list

[muted ember]

I genuinely have 0 good german ships

[warm latch]

yea, so dont worry about research for now, youre in ch7

[worldly pewter]

focus the event now then we can figure out how u do the rest

[whole crypt]

you don't need good ships, you just need ships

[muted ember]

well unless I get Bismarck from the 6th anniv letter

wait no Bismarck won't work with farming Roon

[coarse heron]

I'd say Z1 is your least bad German ship

[whole crypt]

Bis is 🚮

[warm latch]

no dont get bismarck from anni letter, sirius will be much better for you

[coarse heron]

but she's still bad

[whole crypt]

she's also in medal shop not worth spending invite on

[undone plover]

Get to d3 in event and ignore shipyard and research for now
Saint louis is fine
Ideally u want to work on USS tech and unlock anchorage

[south sequoia]

Man the choices for this years anniversary selector is so underwhelming its depressing

Not even a hood or essex

[whole crypt]

the choices for every year is underwhelming

[shell willow]

we need UR invite added soon 🙏

[muted ember]

already used that one for Nagato

[coarse heron]

I think I'll just take Russia for Soviet tech

[muted ember]

this I mean,forgot to click reply

[coarse heron]

okay yeah I already have the rest of them

[whole crypt]

next month then, or somewhere down the road

[coarse heron]

ultimately this is a gacha game and you are time gated in everything you do

[muted ember]

Man I kinda want to ignore all the advice cause I already have Honkai Imapct as my "I wanna be meta" gacha game and I started AL cause I wanted a fun collecting gacha game

[tame jungle]

[finite crag]

thats up to you at the end of the day

[south sequoia]

Our suggestions are wel... suggestions

[finite crag]

you can definitely play daily to collect cubes and just treat the game as a slot machine

[south sequoia]

We don't have control of your account to force you to do what you want

[atomic abyss]

Think about it this way
It's better to meta a little so you can actually use the shops you want

[whole crypt]

you can do what you want, there are recommendations, I can't say how much fun you'll get

[muted ember]

well the ship I want to use is so bad-

[coarse heron]

bro the first ship I oathed was Long Island

[muted ember]

mine's Indy

god Indy retro when

[atomic abyss]

[gusty olive]

Meanwhile I use QE in and also have a fleet with it's backline filled with META BB's

[vivid bear]

Who need limit break first? Shinano, alsace, or new Jersey?

[whole crypt]

we all have bad ships we like, the best way to get any use out of them is to get good so you can bring her along

[coarse heron]

Like don’t worry about playing this game optimally look at these garbage ships I oathed

[finite crag]

oathing has nothing to do with playing optimally though

[muted ember]

I got 2

[lyric dragon]

Play the game in a way that make you play it longest

[coarse heron]

sure it does, if you're minmaxing you oath ships for stats which means you oath good ships

[finite crag]

you can literally oath any ship you like and it wouldnt change a thing

[atomic abyss]

If you can't limit break fully, don't limit break them at all

[coarse heron]

the truly deranged will absolutely oath a ship just for +6%

[muted ember]

also how does the oil and coin storage work

[finite crag]

oathing for stat is something you only do if you whale, it literally does not matter

[muted ember]

like if I take the oil will it recharge later?

[warm latch]

0lb cassin oath

[south sequoia]

Oathing doesnt provide a big enough boost to warrant you wasting your rings on ships who are meta and who you don't like, and if you don't oath carefully you'll also fuck up timings for fleets.

[finite crag]

you can "minmax" just fine without a single ring

[whole crypt]

it just stores all oil and coins from mail for you to take out later

[muted ember]

ok so let's say I take some oil from the storage,will it recharge and how?

[south sequoia]

Plus, the only stat that matters from oathing is reload

[coarse heron]

it doesn't recharge, it's from maintenance mail

Yostar sends out oil and coins when game goes down for maintenance or other reasons

[muted ember]

ok gotcha

[whole crypt]

it doesn't recharge by itself, it's just oil you "collected" from mail

[lyric dragon]

Yes

[muted ember]

I was always curious why I didn't get currency from mantience mail unlike other gacha games

[whole crypt]

my other game has no maintenance so I get no maintenance comp

[coarse heron]

Yeah they changed it to put it in storage instead because too many long term players would have like 800-900 mail

And it was like “hey maybe this system sucks”

[whole crypt]

it still sucks the hoarders can cap out on storage

[muted ember]

actually are any of the new ships good?(like fargo or pittsburgh?)

[whole crypt]

good yes top tier no

[muted ember]

good enough for me

[coarse heron]

Good is still better than what he has to work with at the moment

[muted ember]

I mean I play Hoyo games so I get maintenance

[worldly pewter]

in this game oil and coin matters more unironically
cubes come naturally with a good pace to keep up with all the UR banners

[muted ember]

which one,Fargo or Pittsburgh

[whole crypt]

just don't use bulins like I do

[atomic abyss]

Both are decent
Indiana is the one actively worth using long term

[muted ember]

I don't have Indiana

[atomic abyss]

Cos she'll last you till you get UR BBs

[coarse heron]

You won’t run out of cubes as long as you aren’t doing constant 10 pulls

[muted ember]

I wish I did tho-

[whole crypt]

most games do

[muted ember]

in a day I only do 1 or 3 pulls depending if there's an event or not

[coarse heron]

Correct, that’s the strat

[muted ember]

1 if no event and 3 if there is an event

[whole crypt]

even if event you can do 1

[muted ember]

I wanna get that event currency for building 3 ships

[coarse heron]

If the event ships are good no reason to not do 3 pulls during events

[worldly pewter]

how many cubes do u have now ?

[whole crypt]

well you can just grind for points and save cubes

[atomic abyss]

Princeton had reload tech right

[muted ember]

the collector inside me likes to take control from time to time

[muted ember]

41

[whole crypt]

the reason would be you already have the ships you want

[atomic abyss]

You'd want 400

[whole crypt]

the points are not worth 5 cubes

[worldly pewter]

daily 1 light sir

[muted ember]

I know I know,I'm working on it

[worldly pewter]

no u aren't

[muted ember]

plus I don't really know which event UR I want to get anyways

[atomic abyss]

All of them frankly

[tame jungle]

tbh all of them lol

[muted ember]

right- I forgot AL is one of those gacha games

[whole crypt]

no naturally rainbow ship is bad

[worldly pewter]

what are those gacha games ?

[muted ember]

ones where all the premium units are needed for all the content

[whole crypt]

they're not

[coarse heron]

They’re not they just make it easier

[whole crypt]

you can use purple starter fleet up to ch12

[worldly pewter]

yeah basically they are not
one more thing is this game hands u everything to pity them unlike other games

[coarse heron]

You can clean up like 99% of the hard content in this game with some truly bad ships

[whole crypt]

that would be an exaggeration

you can clean up some 90-95% of the game with meh units, but definitely not most of the hard stuff

[coarse heron]

Okay fair I should have said 99% of content
Cause the hard stuff is really hard

You’re gonna get dumpstered if you go into W14 with bad ships

[fiery pelican]

when are we expecting musashi rerun?

[reef flume]

November

[whole crypt]

Soon™️

[worldly pewter]

also even someone neglects the gacha there are still f2p options in the shipyard

[plain saffron]

but you need to minmax your management to collect them all

[coarse heron]

Sometime before 2045

[tame jungle]

should be the next UR rerun. when exactly = 🔮

[fiery pelican]

👍

[reef flume]

Aquilifer's ballade-->Operation convergence--> Violet tempest (the thing is: when are they going to rerun the first 2)

[whole crypt]

we don't know so 🔮

[worldly pewter]

and yeah to add on top of this
being meta is easier than collecting all the ships imo

[plain saffron]

i won't be suprised if there's rerun and WA right after this event

[coarse heron]

OpSi is great for trying out goofy shit like I have no idea what is even going on with my fleet 4 I don’t remember what I was experimenting with but it works so I’m not changing it

[whole crypt]

we don't put dates on stuff that's not announced

[muted ember]

tbh I feel like I should just focus on getting to lvl 60 rn

I'm lvl 58 currently

[coarse heron]

Pretty much yeah

[orchid patrol]

Do you mean the formation? I'm sorry for the late

[plain saffron]

i would meta first, then after i done chapter 12 or 13 go to raising whoever i want

[whole crypt]

like bulins

[plain saffron]

or 7th copy or saratoga

[strong tartan]

thousand bulin army

[worldly pewter]

smootie went to bed

[coarse heron]

How to be good at AL: get lucky in gacha lottery early on

[balmy matrix]

Any good ship to pick other than i picked?

[worldly pewter]

depends on the joining time
i joined before guam's event by 3 weeks and it was not a bad experience to get her

just got her in the last day somehow

[whole crypt]

can still post others can help, if it's a lot put in a thread

[coarse heron]

Shinano took me like 150 pulls

[muted ember]

actually,which META ships are actually good

[plain saffron]

generally gold good, elite bad

[muted ember]

she took me 3 when I first started

[austere shard]

u101, centurion

101 if u need subs

[worldly pewter]

yeah also imo as we explained earlier they aren't needed but they make the content much easier

[whole crypt]

you guys sound like Shinano was the hardest ship to get in the banner

[plain saffron]

i got her with 0 pulls

[coarse heron]

Genuinely the hardest UR I pulled out of my 3 gacha URs

[plain saffron]

i pull events, shinano is side drops

do you know that you don't need to pull shinano

[whole crypt]

perm URs not in event pools

[coarse heron]

Shinano pulls you

[plain saffron]

yes but the spark counts

that's why 0 pulls, i claim her

[worldly pewter]

technically that is not true

[plain saffron]

i didn't pull for her. i pull for other ships

[worldly pewter]

but realistically we can call it a side product

[whole crypt]

that's not 0 pulls, that's not pulled

[zenith heron]

My hardest was Vanguard on pity rate

I got Shinano on the first 30 pulls, and I haven't used her until Musashi's release when I understood the meta that time... its gacha for a reason

[coarse heron]

They call it gacha cause they gatcha money

[plain saffron]

well they spend 150 pulls for shinano, i spend 0 for shinano technically
i spend for other ships

[whole crypt]

the hardest ship to get is not the rainbow

[tame jungle]

maybe the real shinano was the friends we made along the way

[plain saffron]

it's that one elite

[sharp socket]

the gacha part is so free that money spent on it is a bad decision

[torn latch]

Me with Eskimo and Princeton

I dont even have Dewey yet

[whole crypt]

most of the UR events my last missing ship was not the UR

[plain saffron]

hardest is milestone ship because you need to play the game

[torn latch]

True

[whole crypt]

imagine not grinding

[coarse heron]

Imagine forgetting to put your mob fleet in the dorm before grinding and suddenly red face

[plain saffron]

imagine caring about their mood

[whole crypt]

Cassin and Downes are fine

[coarse heron]

“Akashi I need more Cassins”

[whole crypt]

I just put Cassin and Downes in dorm

[warm condor]

What are the T2 and T3 on wrapons? Tiers?

[coarse heron]

Just retire them when low mood and move on to the next one

[worldly pewter]

#1200474660693876859 message

[coarse heron]

Many such cases

[whole crypt]

some gear have multiple "tiers" of the same name, usually in this case higher is better but not all gear have tiers

[whole crypt]

that only works for the CVL

a lv 1 Mahan isn't going to survive a lv 50-ish stage

[subtle tinsel]

what should i buy in siren shop?

[whole crypt]

which one

[subtle tinsel]

wait there is more than one

i mean resupply

[whole crypt]

resupply is what, port shops?

[subtle tinsel]

yes

[whole crypt]

gold/rainbow lab mats, gold plates, coords for more materials and plates

have you been through monthly reset?

[subtle tinsel]

what is that

[coarse heron]

If you clear OpSi every month you can afford to just buy everything every time

[whole crypt]

have you cleared ch4, and if you did when

[subtle tinsel]

im on ch3

[coarse heron]

Once you clear Chapter 4, OpSi changes slightly and will reset on the 1st of every month

[subtle tinsel]

oh thx

[whole crypt]

if you haven't been through reset just buy what you can so the shop can cycle through, though I'm not sure you can get out of it before reset if you clear ch4 before end of month

[low agate]

i dont think it affects what appears in the shops iirc

[whole crypt]

if you haven't been through reset you still get old shop format, buying stuff removes items from rotation

[low agate]

ah i see must be because i rushed things

[half plover]

is it good to do SP this event if otherwise just farming d3?

I am at 37.8k points / 60k

[vernal crag]

Need help to make 2 teams

[undone plover]

SP is worth yes
even more so if u use 1:1 fleet

[worldly pewter]

it is very easy to calculate the currency / oil for both d3 and sp

sp will be dependent on ur fleets

[coarse heron]

SP is worth it, you’d have to be spending truly heroic amounts of oil for it to be more oil per points than D3

[half plover]

I think I ran it once with my strongest fleet

which might be a heroic amount lmao

[undone plover]

even if your fleet costs 100 oil it is still worth from a point/oil perspective

[half plover]

oh good so I'll run it

[undone plover]

who are you running?

[undone plover]

unicorn + laffey II clears mobs for me

[half plover]

I don't have laffey II sadly

[shell willow]

overkilling it a bit

[undone plover]

sandy should work I think

[coarse heron]

You would have to be spending 1200 oil for 1 clear for SP to cost more oil per point than D3

[half plover]

oh haha

[undone plover]

run 2:2 at least

[half plover]

so Unicorn + sandy for mobs? I got sandys aug too

[undone plover]

I havent tried it but I feel like it should work
do u have soyuz for crossfleet?

put alsace in boss + plymouth
that also should be enough
If dont have then 2:2 fleet works or 2:1 with tanky van

[half plover]

sadly not

I started playing at the From Zero to Hero event with nubian and friedrich carl

[undone plover]

[half plover]

so I just got most ships from then on with some exceptions like I didn't get Avitr and 2-3 others

[undone plover]

that is fine
try sandy in mob
make sure she is geared correctly

and for boss put 2:2 just to be safe
or alsace + tank + mogador should be overkill I think

[half plover]

ty

[undone plover]

might be worth to pay attention to the screen just in case
so far I have had no issue with this one but I remember some SP maps were very close

[whole crypt]

I just use Unicorn/Laffey II and Musashi/Kronshtadt for SP

[undone plover]

uni + laff2 is a nice insurance but I remember ddg used to work for the older ones

[whole crypt]

I'm just lazy

my DDGs not always geared because I don't use them anywhere else

[undone plover]

hinden unzen opsi mob detected

[whole crypt]

Hindenburg yes Unzen no

[undone plover]

prolly can make it even less but try this for now and see for yourself

[half plover]

ty

[whole crypt]

my OS mob fleet now is Guam/Harbin/Hindenburg

[worldly pewter]

i mean it is a massive step from the initial at least

[half plover]

this already saved up 240 oil

[undone plover]

harbin

[undone plover]

curious who is your CV tank?
do u use the USS CV fleet and have guam for cross?

[whole crypt]

I don't have a CV fleet

[undone plover]

boomer comps scare me

[whole crypt]

well there's Musashi/Shinano/Implacable or something I don't remember but not full CV fleet or Kearsarge fleet

[plain saffron]

not boomer enough

[late flame]

lowkey hoping for 5th opsi fleet too lazy to swap

[undone plover]

~~eyes hurt from the shiny ~~

[whole crypt]

oath whale

[undone plover]

are the collab girls really good for OpSi mobbing or do ppl just like em
it is multiple times I see ppl use em in opsi mob

[coarse heron]

Depends on which ones

[whole crypt]

Rikka and Ryza are exceptions, and only if properly geared

[undone plover]

[late flame]

my mob fleet is also my pvp fleet, works against most setups except the very salty ones

[coarse heron]

OpSi is pretty forgiving for goofy fleets though as long as the ships themselves are good

Like when I came back I had this as Fleet 4 and clearly I was trying something but I still don’t know what https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/697475157739962509/1276431777703006278/image0.jpg?ex=66c9813a&is=66c82fba&hm=629064948741752d0b6126acadfcde80d46eb6ba64d9df639bf2cbaeedfdc2b6&

[eternal basalt]

Chise Asukagawa is a good Aquila substitute

[undone plover]

fair enough
i know some ppl also just one fleet OpSi (at least certain months)
but was curious about the collab gals

[coarse heron]

Like my BB fleet my CV fleet and my obnoxiously front loaded mob fleet were obvious but this is just ????

[eternal basalt]

My OPS fleet might make you scream, since I actually use OPS to get XP on my girls

[coarse heron]

How obnoxiously front loaded, you might ask? Percy, Aquila, and Vittorio

[finite crag]

tmi

[late flame]

ngl i'm actually tempted to try to pull percy from ww to run tests lol

[pallid mulch]

Every time I spend 8k point, drop rate goes crazy

[wind hazel]

who asked?

[coarse heron]

Percy carried me hard ever since I got her, Noctis was my first event

Or maybe 2nd?

[worldly pewter]

#al-general

[atomic abyss]

Ok, keep such posts to #al-general or #trophy-room please.

[storm heron]

lesson to buy fargo last

[late flame]

jp anni stream going to be on 7 and 8 sep?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNE42EzfCE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQl3AtDBfFg

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[storm heron]

yes

[eternal basalt]

First day ingame, second day collabs (very few if any ingame action)

[whole crypt]

second day will probably be more skins and upcoming

but wait for full streaming schedule

oh nvm they posted the schedule too then yeh most of the game stuff is day 1

[eternal basalt]

Azuren Official Live Broadcast DAY 1 ~ Celebration 7th Anniversary! New Information Lifted SP~
Azuren Official Live Broadcast DAY 2 -Out-of-Game Latest Information SP〜

[whole crypt]

yeh I saw

[eternal basalt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ln-ENbUJmo/ & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkZUT1PCbwM was last year... it should followw the same format.

[viral shadow]

Btw do torps in barrages gets buffed by support skills like Noshiro's?

[frank pulsar]

noshiro's should buff torps in AoA

[south dome]

Hi, as a new player, which ship would you advice me to buy in the core data shop?

[undone plover]

Independence
If u already bought the other priority items

[frank pulsar]

/coredata independence is highest prio ship for new players, but shells have higher priority than her

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[south dome]

ok thanks!

[lavish hare]

Guys im stuck at 3-2 and i dunno what to do:///

[atomic abyss]

You're on the right track, long island aside
Limit break your ships, also you may want to take a break from playing - their morale is low

[undone plover]

Use bulins and MLB your ships

Put z23 in place of helena for now

And when portland is stronger put her in that slot instead

[late flame]

rest
your
shipgirls

[signal pollen]

Has anyone actually got gems for the gem commission? And how much gems do you get?

[worldly pewter]

[worldly pewter]

depends on the level from 10 to 60 i think

[rapid grail]

is there anything to buy left?

[warm flax]

Blueprints

[glossy wolf]

Need help on which ending unlock business suit TB?

[rapid grail]

Ahh, I see then. 25k points. Ty

[glossy wolf]

This one

[eager mulch]

#1204845559790440488 message

[lavish hare]

Im trying to rush since i wanna take medal of honors for enterprise :///

[atomic abyss]

No point, cos low affinity means you're actively losing exp instead... Which is gonna slow your progress

[lavish hare]

Oh okay then

Tyvm

[atomic abyss]

Throw your ships in the dorm if you haven't

[lavish hare]

I put unicorn and the blue haired one

[lavish hare]

In your opinion i would be able to take 70 medal of honors in 9 days? :((( (started playing yesterday)

[atomic abyss]

Depends on your luck honestly

[lavish hare]

Mh :///

[worldly pewter]

there are some in the missions

[atomic abyss]

I wouldn't worry too hard

[lavish hare]

The problem is that i won t pull ships since everyone told me to save for september, so i can only do it with the rare ones i find in stages :///

[atomic abyss]

Which is the normal source of medals though

[lavish hare]

Yy ik, but for expamlr, if i have another copy of my z23, should i retire it!

[novel solstice]

If you are using z23, or intend to use her soon, use the copy to limit break her. If not, go ahead and retire it, you can limit break her later with bulins.

Limit breaking makes ships significantly better, you want to do it to any ship you are using as fast as possible.

You don't need to save dupes for things you aren't using though; if you decide six months from now to use someone you'll likely have more purple bulins then.

[lavish hare]

Y, im using z23 now, but i just need one more limit break for her, so that s why i was asking if i could retire her or not

[undone plover]

Once u MLB u can retire her future copies

U can save one for retro as well or just use a bulin later up to you

U will get medals from retiring other ships

I think 70 in 9 days is doable if u play daily

Once your ships are a bit stronger u can start farming event

[novel solstice]

Yeah, you should be able to get more than ten per day by just running event stages or whatever the highest level in the main campaign you can reach is.

Don't forget to hit the shop and claim the "weekly free supplies" -- the 4k free oil there lets you afford a lot of fighting.

[lavish hare]

I didn t take it cuz i didn t want to fill all the oil cap

[undone plover]

take it later that is fine
just dont forget

[south sequoia]

The games oil hard cap is 25k

[novel solstice]

You have until sunday to claim it, so you have time to burn your existing oil 🙂

[south sequoia]

The max displayed is only soft cap, it only prevents you from collecting oil from the canteen

[sacred parrot]

is NJ only for boss fleets?

[crisp estuary]

[south sequoia]

She can also be flexed into your mob, however other bbs will just do her job better like FDG

[crisp estuary]

NJ is for any fleet if she is one of your few URs

[south sequoia]

And her single targetting will slow her down in mob fights with multiple enemies on screen, so it's better to have her in your boss

[steel jacinth]

quick question. what would you choose?
4H Q or 1H Q

[sacred parrot]

still working on my FDG

[crisp estuary]

If you have all the URs though, you probably will use her mostly in OpSi

[undone plover]

what is your goal?

finish dev30 ships fast?
or get most UR gear from a season

better question which season are u on atm?

[steel jacinth]

Season 7
And ah, so doing both or something in the middle isn't possible?
I have Nakhi up to Dev 16, and I was hoping to gear her up with gear from the research
Is her gear something I should substitute instead for leveling her?

[whole crypt]

there's no real point going in the middle

[undone plover]

nakhi works with exisiting gear
she doesnt need the new gears
u can do ship focus and switch to gear later

If on ship focus take 1 Q imo
if gear focus take 4h Q

[whole crypt]

if you want to go for gear take 4Q

[steel jacinth]

Aw, okay

[whole crypt]

if ship focus you might not even want to take that 1Q

[undone plover]

yeah probably G4h/1.5h better if u have the option

[whole crypt]

I mean you can go mid way, then you'll just get the ships like not early but not late, and end up with maybe 1 copy less of La-9

but we're like over a month into PR7 already

[steel jacinth]

The other projects are
B 4H Gold
B 4H Blue
G 2h30m
No G 1h30m, but I guess I go with the 2h30m?

[whole crypt]

just take the 1Q then if you want ship

[undone plover]

u could yeah
it is better for getting ship BP
I would take the 1h Q and hope for better roll cause I hate 2.5h G

[whole crypt]

use as a refresh

[steel jacinth]

Oh, so that's why, ok
And so Q 1h, got it, thank you

[keen sable]

short term gain long term pain or just gain

[whole crypt]

not everyone needs 5-6 La-9s

[steel jacinth]

Plus, I barely have half the needed amount for the La 9

[keen sable]

maybe they want 10 q152

[keen sable]

not bad

[jaunty glade]

any good guides on gear R&D and Operation Siren now that I hit commander 60?

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /gearlab

wyvern rush?

[jaunty glade]

?

[novel solstice]

There's a limit to how much you can rush a wyvern. Certainly you should aim to get every UR print from opsi every month if you can though.

[keen sable]

Step 1: FInish OPS story up to Chapter 4

[worldly pewter]

first month is to try and clear ch4
it might be very challenging for a new account

[cursive lark]

Do I need to clear arbiter to get the guaranteed 3 ur design from new shop?

Finished ch4 but can't clear corrosion 6 around the arbiters

[viscid swift]

no but missing arbiter doe miss you your 4th guranteed design plan

[cursive lark]

But but... my fleet is weamk

Like 2 fleets of 115 level poverty gear

[fluid brook]

You can just exit, heal at port and retry

[viscid swift]

leave, heal in port, and try again

[cursive lark]

OH OK

[fluid brook]

The damage you have done accumulates so, you can just try again until arbiter is dead, hard arbiter does reset hp if you exit

[cursive lark]

Thx, will try

[undone plover]

make sure u are using unicorn otherwise u will spend a lot of time in port

[worldly pewter]

how is ur adapt level ?

[cursive lark]

Adapt VI

[worldly pewter]

numbers

[cursive lark]

160s, defo not enough

[worldly pewter]

yeah get more

[smoky palm]

is this a decent cruiser cat?

[whole crypt]

flame is good but no one really uses cruiser cats

[cursive lark]

Can secretary raise affection beyond 90 if oathed?

[whole crypt]

I have no idea how you intend to get affinity below 100 after oath anyway

[cursive lark]

Alright so I have to oath uni now else I will have to use 125 uni for long long long time

[spice cedar]

Places to get gold ordinance reports?

Other than waiting for next opsi reset?

[whole crypt]

but you will continue to use 125 Unicorn for a long, long time regardless

[undone plover]

I think 1-2 time per year maybe they do an event where u can get affinity beyond 90 but it is not sth u should rely on

[undone plover]

spend excess AP in C5 zones and pray

[whole crypt]

if you're done with all your coords then it's just cat dives and maybe next week's stronghold

[spice cedar]

Time to continue raging because of rng then

[orchid tulip]

Can I wear 2 of these books in the same fleet? (ex: 1 for Laffey and 1 for Agir)

[whole crypt]

you can but there's no real reason to

[orchid tulip]

+6% dmg to 12-4 and 13-4 bosses is cool imo

[keen sable]

that's not what it does...

[whole crypt]

vanguard damage is kind of ehhhhh, and not at the cost of durability unless you're already in excess

[orchid tulip]

they are lvl125, just farming Affinity, also the book is +550 hp at +10 iirc

[vernal crag]

Dumb question, but I want to make sure if i get that right. Combat data collection wont progress from the exp of what you get in the dorm?

[keen sable]

you'll be lucky to get 1% out of it. I would even posit if you get 1% out of it you're dead

[orchid tulip]

wdym? Choukai, Maya and Taihou are Sakura enemies, I don't get it

[whole crypt]

well the ships probably won't die, but you won't really get much damage out of it anyway

[keen sable]

3% for 2 ships is not 6%

[whole crypt]

almost everything in campaign is IJN but vanguard damage

[orchid tulip]

6% bonus to laffey and 6% bonus to Agir, that's my question

[keen sable]

which is nothing considering probably 80% of your damage comes from backline

[eager mulch]

real answer is he can but it’s not gonna make a significant difference

[orchid tulip]

I know vanguard dmg is meh, but in this case I'm farming Affinity with a max lvl vanguard and they are carrying a much lower level main fleet

[eager mulch]

.

[whole crypt]

this is why I take my ships out of dorm after 110

[cursive lark]

Imagine 125ing ships dorm route

[brazen hornet]

Good morning, I was able to research Archorage and grind 300 blueprints but cant release her until I get the Eagle union tech points. Am I able to switch to another PR research without losing the Anchorage catchup prints?

[eager mulch]

yes

[whole crypt]

I mean sure you could go for it, you probably won't even notice the difference though

[keen sable]

it doesn't mean what you think it means but yes

catchup != development != your bp != focus

[brazen hornet]

Thank you! I got schooled last night by this forum and a link to research... I get it... Thanks! Have a good weekend!

[whole crypt]

you won't just lose prints but 300 is your entire PR4 catchup stock and you'll need to coin or do more actual PR4 research to have enough prints to "finish" Anchorage

[brazen hornet]

[storm heron]

Hi, should I keep grinding point or do 12-4?

[cobalt rapids]

Carrying backline with vang

Aim for 55k milestone

[ornate narwhal]

should i use my exp books?

or save them?

[storm heron]

Okie, thx

[cobalt rapids]

Use if needed

[ornate narwhal]

are they used for anything else?

[mint flint]

they're just for exp

[cobalt rapids]

If ure new use em on ur fleet when needed
If not u use em to bring low lvl ships to lvl where they survive where ure grinding

[elfin hollow]

what are the best ways to farm coins?

[mint flint]

farm 12-4

[dusk elk]

Is this where i’d ask for fleet help or is that a separate area?

[elfin hollow]

i only have 10-1 unlocked

[mint flint]

push to w12 if possible, but if not just farm 10-1 since it already has an oil cap

[whole crypt]

you can ask here, but if you need to post a bunch of screenshots do it in a thread

[dusk elk]

Fleet Building Help?

[dusk elk]

done

[keen sable]

save at least 200 blue books which is enough to L70 2 ships especially if you aren't capable of generating new ones

[eager mulch]

what’s preventing this bulin from showing up in lb screen

[plain saffron]

In comms

Or hard mode stage

[fluid brook]

Its lock

[plain saffron]

I did a whole testing for that ui

[fluid brook]

The bulin is locked

[plain saffron]

He click filter to show locked

[keen sable]

i think i tested. it will still show up in hard mode. someone else had this issue awhile back.

let me retest hard mode

[fluid brook]

[plain saffron]

#gameplay-help message

[plain crow]

Can someone help me to build a good fleet?

[plain saffron]

Also this

[keen sable]

coms says in action though

[eager mulch]

Hard mode will say in hard mode too

[plain saffron]

I tested so

Refer the pics i linked. In hard mode doesn't show up

For some fucking reason it doesn't show up in dock but only show up after you selected to retire

Ouh right i forgot the answer to that discussion is guild ops but i doubt bulin will go there

So check your comms

[plain saffron]

I don't remember if i took screenshots for comms testing

[worldly pewter]

didn't we have someone with the same issue with indomi

[keen sable]

so not hard mode

[plain saffron]

So either comms or guild ops

Or just use retire strats

[worldly pewter]

#gameplay-help message

[keen sable]

yeah that's the one I remember I think

[plain saffron]

here's the proof i guess

[keen sable]

yes but chise in dock on comms says in action

[plain saffron]

.

there's no "in action" there. the ship straight up not showing

[keen sable]

the first screenshot shows L15 bulin isn't in coms

[eager mulch]

they said no comms running, not in guild ops

[plain saffron]

ouh this is not about them. i'm just showing proof to my statement earlier because nobody trust it

[viscid swift]

desync or something?

[plain saffron]

also yes it shows up in dorm with in action

[keen sable]

nagami said retire. sounds interesting

[plain saffron]

the point is it doesn't show up in LB

[keen sable]

sorry this

and sorry about the ping i forgot

[plain saffron]

wtf where's my pics???

[jaunty vault]

i stole them

[plain saffron]

i sent 4 pics, 2 + 2

[keen sable]

rate limited

[plain saffron]

fuck it

[jaunty vault]

whyd you retire chise

[plain saffron]

i only keep saratoga

[jaunty vault]

chise cuter ngl

[eager mulch]

#al-general message

[plain saffron]

That doesn't count

[eager mulch]

we found the bulin

in guild battle support

[wind hazel]

wasn't that the case too last time?

[eager mulch]

guild ops last time i think, not battle support

[worldly pewter]

he scrapped a non retro sara

[wind hazel]

it is always the guild's fault

[eager mulch]

because who even looks at guild battle support

[plain saffron]

How tf

[eager mulch]

lunch time

[sage sluice]

Is napoli bulky enough to off-tank? Could she replace ply?

[worldly pewter]

she is cb level of tankiness

[sage sluice]

Wow I didnt see the heavy armor. She can maintank?

[worldly pewter]

i never heard of a cb that can't main tank

[viscid swift]

she's tankier than pretty much all existing CBs

[sage sluice]

Crazy. Cant wait to dev 30 her. Thx

[ebon oxide]

[atomic abyss]

at d25, napoli is about as tanky as dev 30 agir

and yes, she is only med armour, like most CBs without the armour plate

[frank pulsar]

napoli is tankier than agir at dev30

[sage sluice]

wiki says she is heavy?

[atomic abyss]

wait did i goof

[crimson glacier]

yes

[viscid swift]

Napoli is Heavy Armor

[sage sluice]

Hows dps compare to like kron?

[atomic abyss]

i stand corrected then
but yes, d25 napoli comparable to agir d30

[rose cosmos]

They should of up the specialized core limit to 6k dawg, I already maxed out last week

[atomic abyss]

...kron's DPS is nothing remarkable tbh

[sage sluice]

She is highest of the CB's I thought?

[atomic abyss]

highest of the CBs, which is a non DPS focused class

she is considered to be the 2nd worst CB lol

[sage sluice]

Well yeah but I was thinking to use napoli as main tank so idk I thought that would be a good comparison

[soft raft]

technically they already did
you can buy 1k from medal shop that doesnt count towards the 5k cap

[atomic abyss]

main tanks should not be expected to be DPS carries

if they happen to DPS, good

[crimson glacier]

id assume that napoli with enough dev levels is the best tank in the game

[atomic abyss]

d30 napoli eHP comes close to chinawall so...

[sage sluice]

Yes I understand that, I was just asking as a reference

[desert tapir]

I just started working on Napoli and it turns out I have very few Np or Se Vanguard. Should I prioritize anyone in particular for leveling up out side of this grind, or does it not matter?

[atomic abyss]

chinawall is still a fair bit tankier, but napoli doesn't have as much reliance on eva rate
nor does she need specific team mates

[candid meteor]

whats chinawall? just the dragon emepry ships?

[keen sable]

yat + de + ning

or was it ping

[candid meteor]

i think its ping

[atomic abyss]

well you get the picture

[atomic abyss]

nothing particularly notable tech wise, mostly FP tech here and there so

[rain bobcat]

ping ye

[exotic wren]

....wait Napoli eHP comes close to chinawall total eHP? As in yat Ning ping?

[rain bobcat]

shes the best tank for survivability on paper

[eternal moth]

All of the ships in the second floor dorm are at 0 morale, and I just logged in for the day. Anyone know what's causing this?

[eager mulch]

spaghetti code

[exotic wren]

...relog?

[rain bobcat]

relog

weirdge but probably just the usual coding

[waxen flicker]

Hi, I have a question, how fast can I get from 62 to 70 lvl? I want to unlock 10th chapter to get st louis

[eternal moth]

Yeah, that worked. Weird

[rain bobcat]

within a couple days

[zinc prairie]

Help make fleet for w14 and 15 and what ships need leveling

[eternal moth]

10 seconds if you want to use a credit card

[waxen flicker]

No, like without spending money

[soft raft]

depends on how much you grind every day

[waxen flicker]

Hm well yea, it depends on it

But looks like it will take a lot of time definitely

[rain bobcat]

i give it a week max

[jaunty glade]

Operation Siren resets completely monthly?

[dry karma]

Hello. Can I unlink my account from Twitter and link it to my email without losing my game progress?

[sweet delta]

You can link to yostar without unlinking from Twitter

[dry karma]

Just click on Bild Yostar?

[rain bobcat]

yes

[dry karma]

Thanks!

[autumn ether]

What are the best PR ships to unlock

[atomic abyss]

friederich de gross and anchorage, then august van parseval, then agir, then plymouth, then brest
the order of the rest doesn't really matter

[stark quiver]

Fdg > all of Pr4 > Plymouth/brest > rest

Also does 17 bb rld make less than a second difference

[rain bobcat]

fdg>pr4> ply brest>kear>watever u want

[stark quiver]

Why kear? Is anything she’s not high priority

[atomic abyss]

quite the opposite even

i'd go as far as to say to skip 6 entirely and go for PR7

[rain bobcat]

about 6 tenths

[stark quiver]

That’s good to know

[rain bobcat]

11-13 enuf to get 4th shot on meta iirc

[stark quiver]

I do 0 tech

[ocean fiber]

Guys is unzen worth th limit break

[atomic abyss]

yes, but whether you lb her NOW depends on your other URs, and how many UR bulins you have

[ocean fiber]

I’m asking for a friend he is having trouble figuring out his fleet and stuck on world 9

[crimson glacier]

URs for w9? lmao

[stark quiver]

Can they even mlb her

[atomic abyss]

with no other context given, i'd say save the UR bulins

[crimson glacier]

unzen is good but if you are losing on w9 then there probably is much bigger problems in the fleet than what unzen can fix

[keen sable]

Do D3, steamroll 9.

[ocean fiber]

This is my friends fleet he is using

[autumn ether]

I’m not stuck with her on w9 i just don’t play story mode 😭

[crimson glacier]

??? who are you

[atomic abyss]

3 partially limit broken URs in the backline alone

[soft raft]

Where did Unicorn go

[autumn ether]

That “friend” of water king

[keen sable]

@autumn ether

[atomic abyss]

unicorn is gone, most of the URs there should be dumped due to lack of limit breaks, helena, portland and starter are all missing

[crimson glacier]

when you cant max limit break a ship then you will not use the ship

[atomic abyss]

all existing UR bulins should be shoved into bis zwei

[ocean fiber]

He has some bulins to use

[autumn ether]

Oh okay

[ocean fiber]

She is already limit breake

[autumn ether]

She is lim breaked to max

[atomic abyss]

oh i only saw 5 stars

then soyuz

[ocean fiber]

Is soyzu powerfull?

[atomic abyss]

yes, ofc she is

also again, where is unicorn

[autumn ether]

Okay honestly I just play this game for waifus ngl but i just thought ill try to clear out some story and try hard a little

[keen sable]

That one isn't

[ocean fiber]

But ender just said she is

[atomic abyss]

because she's not max limit broken

no max limit break = garbage

[autumn ether]

So who should i limit break i have nj unzen laffey2 soyuz alsace vanguard and shimakaze

[keen sable]

Tl;Dr never use ships aren't max limit break from now on. If you waifu them then mlb them.

[atomic abyss]

[autumn ether]

And other retro fitted 😭

[atomic abyss]

so many non mlb URs
show us all the URs you have, we need to see their stars

[autumn ether]

Okay sounds good

[crimson glacier]

unless you have a ton of bulins you will wait

[atomic abyss]

also, where is unicorn

[crimson glacier]

new UR within a month , could be good

how do you manage to get that 90 degrees wrong

[ocean fiber]

If you max limit break her she is broken

[autumn ether]

My bad dawg but seems like u can see so it’s fine

[atomic abyss]

yes
although since you have alsace there, i'd prioritise her instead

[keen sable]

You can buy a fourth bulin?

[cloud fractal]

Is AvP the shipgirl that’s freezing entire waves after a bombing run?

[autumn ether]

Uhh i have 3.5 k cores

[atomic abyss]

yes

[cloud fractal]

Holy crap. She’s a monster.

[ocean fiber]

What do you mean by that

[atomic abyss]

...the thing is she doesnt shine on mobbing

[autumn ether]

Okay I’ll lim break her then

[autumn ether]

I have almost all of my URs skill levelled up

[ocean fiber]

So is she a must have ship then?

[keen sable]

I concur on alsace with next 2 sparks being NJ. Should be able to get 500 spec core by tuesday.

[autumn ether]

Oh okay

[atomic abyss]

AvP is imo, a must have for operation siren, unless you already have implacable

[high star]

are part drop rates in D3 higher than like 12-1 or 12-4?

I have been crystal balled, is this bad?

[jaunty vault]

elites have higher droprates than mobs so kinda ye

[viscid swift]

It means we don't know

[sweet delta]

D3 costs less oil

You do get more parts per oil in D3, but the drop rate per battle or per sortie is unknown

[high star]

that's good enough

[viscid swift]

Not that it should dictate where you farm

[ocean fiber]

I forgot to say my friend has FDG by the way could he add her to his fleet when she is levels up of course

[atomic abyss]

when dev 30, yes

[ocean fiber]

By the way my agiar is level 26 now, should I add her to my fleet or wait until she is level 30?

@viscid swift are you saying I should wait until till she is level 30

[keen sable]

yes

[ocean fiber]

May o ask why?

[keen sable]

mlb good. not mlb bad

[autumn ether]

@keen sable @atomic abyss thanks for the help 🫵💪

[ocean fiber]

By the way the I unlocked Anchorage and currently works on on her smoke screen ability right now

[stoic badge]

What's the meta vanguard for a bb fleet (in opsi). I am still using agir+shimakaze+ply after 2 years. Is there anything better now?

[sweet delta]

Still agir ply for most people. Third is Helena or Hindenburg or anyone

[stoic badge]

Thanks. I'll try out Hindenburg. Should I put speed auxes on anyone (like the boots)? It feels like it would be a very slow team otherwise

[atomic abyss]

no, you don't need high speed

[stoic badge]

Alright, thanks

[keen sable]

it is a decent second aux although crystal ice bomb is better precisely because no speed

[stoic badge]

I think I have that on Agir already. Tracto+rudder should be good for hindenburg, right?

[keen sable]

i use Albion on plymouth

[eternal basalt]

Hmm, if you put it on a Russian ship, helps it with cat trigger?

[keen sable]

it's skill only works on ryza. it's just an excellent eva aux with no speed boost otherwise

[dapper sail]

Hi guys, what should I take into account when forming my mob and boss fleets?

[zealous cave]

whyu am i getting much more agir projects than hakuryu projects?

[tame jungle]

RNG

[zealous cave]

damn

[desert tapir]

Kinda the same question as before. Does anyone here need special focus or does it not matter who is used to Grind Admiral N?

[eternal basalt]

Aquila is good

[tame jungle]

I’d say get Soyuz to 125, maybe aquila + volga good to raise too

[vernal edge]

Topic itself is a huge infodump worth half a wiki, short version - Look at ships skills, how they cooperate with each other, pay attention to enemy armor type and map gimmicks to build around it, mob fleet is focused either on clear speed or continious sustain to be able to use its HP resource in map clearing, boss fleet is usually a DPS check unless you get some weird mechanics that you need to work around with special ships

[forest palm]

look to raise whoever you see on this list

Aquila is not on there, but she applies

[atomic abyss]

why is aquila missing...?

ah i snail

[forest palm]

HP tech lol

[atomic abyss]

i mean tech is secondary to actually useful ships

[forest palm]

that is correct, but we're talking about a PR grind here, so you want to look for adventageous tech as well

[atomic abyss]

correction, tech is a joke in that case

so missing out the best non UR there is kinda sus

[forest palm]

cause of HP tech being filtered out kind of simple

[atomic abyss]

soyuz and aquila are the highest priority for investment

[forest palm]

that said Aquila, Volga, and Soyuz

though Soyuz won't make it the full CDC, so switch off to Chkalov once Soyuz is 125

[desert tapir]

So most of them with Aquila and Soyuz etting top billing followed by Volfa and Chkalov.
Got it

[wary timber]

other than opsi, there isnt any other place to get UR aircraft design plans right...

damn abyssals didnt drop any UR plane stuff for me. only a main gun one i think.

[cursive lark]

You can spam c5 secured after all has been done, spent 800 ap for a UR anti-aircraft design

[undone plover]

Make sure u save some AP for last stronghold

And potential coords from daily missions

[cursive lark]

Uh oh

Forgot strongholds cat nodes

[undone plover]

I mean u will get AP back dw but just dont spend all when u C5 dump until last day

Keep a few boxes in case of good rng

[wary timber]

this months opsi luck for me seems really bad

[undone plover]

did u buy all the abyssal coords from exchange shop and port shops?

[wary timber]

Not yet

[undone plover]

then there is still chance
also make sure u always do your daily missions since they also have a chance to drop abyssal coords

[wary timber]

I only bought out the mats and AP stuff. And I still have abyssal coord stuff I haven't used

[undone plover]

then it is a bit premature to say your opsi luck is bad this month

i would guess 2 designs from abyssals is average so if u get 1 more it would be pretty good

[wary timber]

I only got 1 I think

And it's for main guns. The rest were stuff like electronics. Helpful but I'm trying to get my 2nd wyvern

[shell willow]

still better than me getting AA and torp for 2 months

[cursive lark]

I need 203 203 186 for max adapts?

[fathom sable]

Dumb question but do i want to max this out?

[cursive lark]

I suggest maxing champagne guns first

[remote yarrow]

Not high priority, check out #bot-spam /plus13

[forest palm]

156, but that's the max

[undone plover]

203/203/156

oh taz already answered

[remote yarrow]

🐌

[forest palm]

[fathom sable]

Which one hers?

[remote yarrow]

It's on the top of the priority for Main Guns

[eager mulch]

prriorrity

[remote yarrow]

I'm gonna crush your skull

in game

[forest palm]

[wary robin]

2nd floor of dorm does recover morale?

[wispy pendant]

that's all it does

[forest palm]

at a higher rate, but no xp

[remote yarrow]

Yes and at a higher rate than 1st floor, but it doesn't give passive exp

[wary robin]

it confusing how ingame says "for cosmetic only" sort of things

[remote yarrow]

The game lies

[wary robin]

oh, 2nd floor restore even more morale than 1st one?

[forest palm]

yup

[eager mulch]

it does do that

[forest palm]

higher rate, no xp

[remote yarrow]

It indeed does

[soft raft]

[remote yarrow]

My dude, it's a fictional character but yes you can

[eternal basalt]

Who pissed in your soup, if I may ask

[wispy pendant]

go to zero, I want to see it

[forest palm]

pretty sure there's someone on this server that had a 0 affection oath'd ship

anyway, I don't care enough for this idiocy, this is basically a #al-general question

[knotty jasper]

Is it recommended to copy outloads within the “Gear” menu?

[remote yarrow]

Wouldn't say so

They are either bad or full of UR gear and gear in dependent of content

[forest palm]

those builds are generally a mix of shit that just doesn't work on the whole

[knotty jasper]

Got it, thank you both.

[eager mulch]

yeah these are pretty bad

#1 is ok but in game gear loadouts are mostly bad

someone upvoted empty gear loadout

[remote yarrow]

If you need a gear guide, you can check the tierlist for general tips, though make sure to read gear notes by hovering over or check out sam's guide https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[remote yarrow]

I did

[knotty jasper]

This is going to help a lot. Thank you.

[round frigate]

Gang,what should I prioritize in core data shop?

[coarse heron]

Depends on what you don’t have. Do you need BB shells?

[round frigate]

I'm kind of lost to be honest. I just need a list of things that are helpful and a list of things to avoid buying.

[fluid brook]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[half plover]

did we get eenteerreed again

sorry 😭

[worldly pewter]

[ebon oxide]

Would Saiun Kai be better on Unicorn than Tenzan? I have BF-109G on her, so would it make sense to speed up the reload on these really good rockets?

[sweet delta]

you're using unicorn for boss damage?

[remote yarrow]

Just give her a gold Cuda if you have one

[ebon oxide]

nah, she's mob fleet, at least later on when I have 2 fleets

[sweet delta]

And saiun is better than tenzan anyways unless you have very specific timing needs

[atomic abyss]

you don't use bf109g for campaign...

[remote yarrow]

Also that

[atomic abyss]

they can't intercept

[remote yarrow]

Your Uni it's kinda built like a bossing CV rn

[ebon oxide]

I see...

I still don't have a corsair yet, somehow

[remote yarrow]

I would say give her a fighter that can intercept and a barracuda if you have them ofc

[ebon oxide]

is a gold hellcat ok?

[remote yarrow]

pretty decent

[atomic abyss]

gold hellcat > purple corsair anyways

[worldly pewter]

they give one as a new player

[forest palm]

you could totally get away with using BFGs sub 12, but I don't think people get prints that fast

[worldly pewter]

surely they didn't trade proto for it

[ebon oxide]

i got started on pr4 research instantly

[worldly pewter]

by the time u get a bf u should be having the free corsair from campaign clearing

[ebon oxide]

i'm 7/25 for another bf109g but probably not gonna craft another one

[remote yarrow]

Well he's gonna use a Gold Hellcat, I don't think the corsair matters

[ebon oxide]

hellcat + saiun kai it is

[worldly pewter]

[worldly pewter]

no barracuda ?

[ebon oxide]

oh I do have one

it's purple tho

[worldly pewter]

yeah we don't use saiun on uni

[reef flume]

I have many gold cudas

[remote yarrow]

[ebon oxide]

so where would you use bf109g?

[eager mulch]

anti medium bossing where aa is not a concern

[atomic abyss]

opsi/meta showdown vs light or med armour bosses

[ebon oxide]

can you switch gear in the middle of an opsi map?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[jaunty glade]

third tactical training slot worth it?

[remote yarrow]

Nope

You might think it is, but later on you'll only use one or none cuz you won't need to level any more skills after you did the ones for ships you use

[hoary abyss]

Should I put Eldredge in in this fleet?

[remote yarrow]

Probably not if that's CV Fleet for Opsi

[sweet delta]

That doesn't look like opsi screen

[hoary abyss]

What feet setup should I use her in?

[undone plover]

Sirius should be off tank not gumo

[sweet delta]

Late campaign, or bosses with high vanguard damage like Wichita meta

[remote yarrow]

I copy my opsi fleets in formation so I can change their gear without needing to find them in dock, maybe they are doing the same

[undone plover]

U can change it in opsi screen

Just hold your click/tap

[remote yarrow]

I tend to forget about that ngl

[elfin hollow]

Anyone have an idea when will be the rerun event of implacable?

[remote yarrow]

woops

[sweet delta]

Likely sometime in 2025

[undone plover]

2-3 quarter in 2025 (hopefully )

[elfin hollow]

Thanks!

[worldly pewter]

should be on the timestamp as kron rerun or around that

but last time they did uvh rerun right after an ur event so no one knows TBH

[eternal basalt]

They can do it again with York II

[soft raft]

[eternal basalt]

~~See them put Zuhou event between EN and JP ~~

Where is Marseille anyways

[soft raft]

before Fool's scales
And her event is a single ship event so she's not on the list

[remote yarrow]

"This does not consider Single ship events"

[eternal basalt]

But those do rerun

[remote yarrow]

Blame blaster

[viscid swift]

they do, but yeah, probably on a different schedule

seeing as they're usually 2 week affairs not 1 week

not something of great importance to plan around anyway

[eternal basalt]

To be fair the last time one of them rerun it was a while ago and it was still 60x instead of pointbased like now

[undone plover]

since NJ rerun we have had 1 UR rerun between new UR events correct?

[viscid swift]

Foch was of the 10k format

[west lichen]

is duke of york worth doing the war archives to get? i just picked up Hood and retrofited nelson, her barrage just seems a bit iffy if its only at the farthest enemy

[soft raft]

not a high prio

[eternal basalt]

We have an UR rerun after an UR event yes, expect this to remain as we need 4 reruns per year to keep in order

Hence why I expect Musashi to appear okt/nov

[ebon oxide]

Are UR reruns typically good pulls? In some gachas, rerun is very bad and will get power crept soon.

Well not very bad, just not great

[sweet delta]

All free pulls are good

[worldly pewter]

yes braindead pull them and win

[sweet delta]

For cubes it depends on the ship

[undone plover]

Upcoming UR reruns are all some of the best

[eternal basalt]

And most rerun too

[late sinew]

Would Voroshilov be a good replacement for Boise?

[undone plover]

she would be an expensive replacement
u might have other ships that should get the gold bulins as a prio

[forest palm]

[slow fox]

I came to inform you that eHP3 has shields

[viscid swift]

Thank you

[queen jackal]

does speed stat on gear affect the whole team or does it only work on main tank?

[stark quiver]

you saw nothing

[sweet delta]

The whole vanguard moves with the same speed, which is the average speed of the vanguard ships

[queen jackal]

ty

in general for battleships should i be running guns with more or less volleys

[eternal basalt]

Volleys are not dependant on guns, but mlb and ship

[queen jackal]

sorry not volley amount but shots per volley?

[sweet delta]

Use good guns

[queen jackal]

like a gun with x dmg x 2 is gonna shoot 2 shells per volley right

[sweet delta]

You may consult this picture https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#bb_guns

And usually use the "~20s" guns

[queen jackal]

thanks

[copper glacier]

Question: "Main fleet ships" means BBs or CVs right? Ships that go in the back? Destroyers won't count for this, right?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[tame jungle]

yes, main fleet ships are ships that go in the back

[copper glacier]

Ok. Second question. How do I obtain more of the combat data cores for PR2? Can I get more? I'm out. I've used up everything that the series 2 rewards gave me.

[remote yarrow]

That was a mistake

[worldly pewter]

oh no

[shell willow]

you just sortie for xp

[tame jungle]

there's no need to use those. combat data packs are better spent by converting them to protocore (which gets you very good gear)

[copper glacier]

I didn't know I could convert them lol

[tame jungle]

combat data can be collected by just earning xp on ships that fulfill the criteria, which is very much preferred

[copper glacier]

I have a bunch for PR3, 4, and 5 though

[tame jungle]

yeah just go ahead and convert those (depot, find the item and click "analyze" i think)

[short wagon]

yall who do i get for the 6th anni invitation thigny

[tame jungle]

check the pinned messages in this channel

[copper glacier]

I also have that question haha

[tame jungle]

then i have the same answer for that

[short wagon]

thaks

[dim hinge]

Should I save the free UR for rolling 400 when building? Currently I have NJ, Shinano, and Shima all MLBed, and I hit 400/400 for the rolls. I do not have Vanguard MLB and would like to get a dupe for her to use as limit breaking. Is it worth waiting for Vanguard to come out to exchange for her?

[slow fox]

Guys Eldridge is good because if you put her with Napoli while VV is in the fleet, you can get 400% eHP

[stark quiver]

thats pretty sig

[eternal basalt]

There's no point in waiting to get your free UR

[soft raft]

Vanguard wont be added to perma for quite a while anyways

[late flame]

fml i has no vv

[dim hinge]

Okay so I should just redeem it and burn it as retirement cores?

[soft raft]

may as well

[eternal basalt]

Next up is UvH

[late flame]

yeah i'm doing that since i also have that 3 URs mlb'ed

[zenith heron]

I wished UvH had more power to join competition, but the only one I can see other than the faster rld if off flag position with a ?barrage?, she has a niche buff on HE ammo right?

And is it only limited to the Main gun? Or the secondary gun is also applied?

[prisma epoch]

Ok so i need more dock slots from my guild, it says buildable at 2700, i got 2700, now it says buildable at 3000… so how do i actually get the slots? There doesnt seem to be anywhere to actually get them?!?! I can only upgrade? Does it need to be max level before i can get them?

[stark quiver]

each level gives you 2 slots

[viscid swift]

by upgrading dock tech you get 2 slots for each level up to 30

[eager mulch]

ecah

[stark quiver]

ecah

[prisma epoch]

How do i get them though? I still have the same number of slots.. where in the guild are they?

[silk sphinx]

How far are cubers now?

[viscid swift]

the really commited ones are finished with the PRs

[silk sphinx]

Mmh… I’m far from that then

[sweet delta]

have you a screenshot?

[prisma epoch]

In the tech portion of my guild it says +18 dock slots.. but i dont have 18 extra?!?

[stark quiver]

screemshot

[viscid swift]

have you actually bought the upgrades?

[stark quiver]

whered all ur coins go to?

[sweet delta]

cheeky is in a very casual guild

[prisma epoch]

Where do you buy them????

[viscid swift]

here....

[stark quiver]

look at this screen shot

[stark quiver]

oh u need to be active in guild

[sweet delta]

stay in your guild for longer and do the donations and missions

[prisma epoch]

What do you mean? I do all missions and donate everyday

[stark quiver]

just do more
its overtime

[prisma epoch]

How long do you need to do that?

[silk sphinx]

See activity?

[eager mulch]

logistics !

[sweet delta]

that looks like a not so casual guild

[prisma epoch]

My activity is 2705

[sweet delta]

make it 3000

[eager mulch]

beeg activities

[silk sphinx]

Participate in guild operations, guild missions and donations

[prisma epoch]

Right but then it will just upgrade to another level no? And say buildable at 3300 or something?

[sweet delta]

no, it'll show a cost

[eager mulch]

what’s the issue again? you don’t think you’re getting your dock slots? Have you tried restarting and looking at how much dock space you have?

[prisma epoch]

I saw that at 2700, paid it now it says buildable at 3000, no slots gained

[eager mulch]

what’s the issue again? you don’t think you’re getting your dock slots? Have you tried restarting and looking at how much dock space you have?

[silk sphinx]

You should’ve gained 2 spots per level

Certain? Can you show how many dock slots you have?

[silk sphinx]

Please just send a ss of how many dock slots you have, since 18 isn’t an integer of ten

[prisma epoch]

I have 261 out of 268, i should have +18 on top of that…

[sweet delta]

[viscid swift]

no....

[eager mulch]

250 + 18

[silk sphinx]

Nope the eighteen is counted in that 268

The only other source of slots in the game is by multiples of 10 (gem shop)

Since you have 268, and your guild bonus is 18 it’s quite clear why

[prisma epoch]

Huh weird. I ran out of slots and bought 10 more, but never noticed a sudden bump of 16.. which i definitely would have…

[silk sphinx]

^

the eight absolutely has to be from guild bonus

[prisma epoch]

That makes sense.. its just odd i didnt notice the 16 appear one day as im usually not with many extra slots…

[silk sphinx]

Well it’s no trouble. Have a good day

[viscid swift]

human memory can be unreliable at the best of times

[eager mulch]

cheeky sleeping on 6 dock space smh my head

[prisma epoch]

I feel like i would have been like whoohooo! Thanks for the help though 😊

[viscid swift]

still have more than you

[eager mulch]

i can change that

[viscid swift]

dew it

[eager mulch]

done

[sweet delta]

are you going to let that slide cheeky?

[stark quiver]

~~protect your honor and whip out the 💳 ~~

[viscid swift]

well not like I can do much about it, highest I can go is 810 in the near future

if I could spend money on AL right now, I would not being expanding dock space that's for certain

[stark quiver]

what are your goals cheeky

[remote yarrow]

Taking over the world

[viscid swift]

a few skins, maybe full dorm and some tactical oaths

[stark quiver]

nioce

[slow fox]

Cheeky's goal is to be Amagi's Chan's second biggest fan as well

[prisma epoch]

1000 docks slots geez..

[late flame]

lurk more in #al-general iirc takagi has something like 2.5k slots

[quaint trench]

What should i buy with these

[remote yarrow]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#core_data and the merit shop is above

[sweet delta]

Eldridge with merit whenever she pops up

[quaint trench]

Ty

[vale kite]

How good is it to research Ägir?, I'm a little confused because in the community tier list she's listed as EX tier, but here she's not mentioned in the recommendations

[finite crag]

dr ships takes ages to get anyways so its not like you can target them

its recommended that you do pr4 anyways

[eager mulch]

right here home slice

[vale kite]

So it's all about the effort/time to get them?

[eager mulch]

idk, game is a marathon not a sprint, just play at your own pace, agir good but there isn’t one specific ship you need to do all content in game

[rapid grail]

hmm, any 2-ship core for farming in 14-1/2?

unikai + laff-ii + 4 other ships?

[vale spindle]

should work fine

[hazy marten]

how's eldridge retrofit? worth investing?