gameplay-help

[unreal bloom]

Is it possible to do hard arbiter with lvl 95 - 105 ships?

[remote yarrow]

doubt, highly doubt

[atomic abyss]

They'll die within 30s

[worldly pewter]

almost impossible imo

[atomic abyss]

Harbiter is level 128
You're literally taking 50% more damage and doing 50% less

[sweet delta]

One hundred and thirty

[atomic abyss]

[unreal bloom]

I only have 1 full 125 fleet and that dealt around 45% dmg. Guess i will leave it like that

[polar linden]

Akashi? Why?

[atomic abyss]

Oh god I didn't even see that

[worldly pewter]

ur first fleet should do around 50%-60%
try tweaking it

[remote yarrow]

Depending on gear and adapts

[vernal osprey]

She needs leveling

PS: New Fleet with unmaxed ships, now?

[atomic abyss]

Why are you even levelling Akashi is the better question

[unreal bloom]

I think it is pointless to tweak it if i cant follow it up with other fleets

[vernal osprey]

Aight, I'll change

[remote yarrow]

You literally didn't change anything

[atomic abyss]

Gascogne mu for flag anyways

[vernal osprey]

Oh sh wrong SS

[worldly pewter]

harbiter is a hard challenge if u want more help u should create a thread

[polar linden]

Actually max or unmaxed ship doesn't matter if your doing exp for Plymouth,they both gain exp

[atomic abyss]

The most important thing is that you're able to clear regular arbi

[vernal osprey]

Here

[remote yarrow]

And like I said that backline will most likely die

[unreal bloom]

Well i need to level my ships first and then i will ask for help

[unreal bloom]

I can do it with 1 fleet or max 2

[worldly pewter]

asking for help before leveling the ships is also recommended

[remote yarrow]

Is this W12? Cuz I don't think the lv 70 ships will survive then

[tiny gulch]

when are we anticipating the next UR? wondering if i can afford to ragepull for some dupes or if that's a crashout move

[crimson glacier]

in a month

[tiny gulch]

well shit

[vernal osprey]

Pretty sure I remember someone here farmed 12-4 using...level 70s and 80s

[polar linden]

Next month around mid September

[crimson glacier]

and theres literally nothing worth pulling atm so why would you just throw cubes away

[tiny gulch]

for the frame

[vernal osprey]

But I'll level them up to 90 for just in case

[remote yarrow]

It may have been with good gear and crossfleet spam

[worldly pewter]

yeah cross fleets

[tiny gulch]

not sure if i'll be able to get the frame in time rn

[unreal bloom]

If i make a thread now could you give me some suggestions for hard arbiter fleets for the future?

[vernal osprey]

Here

[remote yarrow]

The frontline would've been better but w/e, move Drake to the front/left most position

[low agate]

40mm bofors is a eagle union AA right?

[mystic topaz]

what is the community's thoughts on pittsburgh? is she worth raising?

as a new player

[wind hazel]

there are better priority

[vernal edge]

CA I wouldnt care unless you have Portland as your only leveled one because there are maps with double CA slots req

[crimson glacier]

everyone on this event seems skippable

[remote yarrow]

Indiana is good

[worldly pewter]

both are good actually

[crimson glacier]

good? lol no, good for SSR maybe

[worldly pewter]

it is just tricky for a new player on the pitt side

[plain saffron]

Anyone remember the rewards for guild boss?

[remote yarrow]

Isn't there a history of rewards if you check? lemme see

[glossy wolf]

Is there any sites that I can check the value of the ship?

[vernal edge]

Gold plates and pts?

[plain saffron]

/wiki saratoga

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Saratoga
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Saratoga/Questline
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Saratoga/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Saratoga/Gallery

Aug 21, 2024, 8:09 AM

[plain saffron]

Like this? 1st link

[plain saffron]

But how much

[bold cove]

My first SSR in this game, so i raise and i prom

[plain saffron]

What's inside the details

[remote yarrow]

The score of each guild member

[plain saffron]

I see. Thanks

[remote yarrow]

I did 903 👍

[plain saffron]

1/3 is slacking smh

[glossy wolf]

Yeah, but can I check if it worth to level up the ship?

[plain saffron]

Ouh you mean that kind of value

[remote yarrow]

Please don't give biased "recommendations" in here ty

[plain saffron]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[remote yarrow]

There's not really a numerical worth we can give them. you can check the tierlist

[plain saffron]

Can use ectl as general guide

[remote yarrow]

I see it as everything in Tier 2 and above are worth using in "general content"

Which is mainly W12 and below

[vernal edge]

Or events

[glossy wolf]

Thanks, overwhelm with too much ships🥹

[alpine grail]

It do be like that

[remote yarrow]

But also don't go spreading your resources too much because of this since you are new to the game, for now just ask us if it's worth using X ship imo

[bold cove]

May i ask, which one should i pick at 7 days old account

[remote yarrow]

Check 2nd pinned message

[plain saffron]

Guild boss score only affected by hp left right?

[glossy wolf]

I am currently focusing on my main 2 fleets and pushing story chapter

[worldly pewter]

yes
make a thread
post ur dock
basically this is the best site

[bold cove]

So doesnt matter, thanks

[remote yarrow]

wdym, it does

[crisp estuary]

[alpine grail]

I'm still trying to decide that myself, although after checking war archives seems two of the ships can be obtained that way so maybe that might skew your choice a bit

[remote yarrow]

Guild score is based on the dmg you do to the boss with a max of 301 each daily attempt and it has 1m HP iirc

[brittle crest]

Does anyone have the latest gear tier list?

[shell willow]

why does eldridge have 30% stat bonus (?) on every aux gear? i dont see anything about that in her skills lol

[remote yarrow]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment Are you referring to this?

[worldly pewter]

there is no tier list for gear
the only one i know is gear lab priority tier list

[remote yarrow]

Modernization [?] button maybe

[crisp estuary]

DD bonuses. There's 3 possible types(?)

[shell willow]

modernization is just this

[crimson glacier]

all DDs get extra bonus from max limit break

eldridge is one of the DDs who gets aux buff

[shell willow]

damn ive never seen that before, i see

[remote yarrow]

oh yeah lol

[crimson glacier]

its not rare

[plain saffron]

It's just hidden behind waiting 20s for it to be visible then invisible directly after

[hollow ridge]

Im stuck in stage 3-2 due to lack of knowledge of this characters. Please anyone tell me a good comp that i can use given my collection:

[vernal osprey]

The last main line almost died a few times, aka too risky always being on red, so this is the new main line, is this fine?

[crimson glacier]

okay so these bulins, they arent units, they are a resource

[remote yarrow]

Give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips there's a recommended starter fleet in there

Also what Torva said

[crimson glacier]

they are about as good as empty slot, even at lvl 125

[hollow ridge]

ok

oh...

[crimson glacier]

so never use them in a fleet

[hollow ridge]

so i wasted my exp books, any chance to get it back?

[remote yarrow]

They are sacrificial goats to limit break your ships

[crimson glacier]

nope

[hollow ridge]

i throught since its higher rarity (golden) its good to use lol

[alpine grail]

Not always

[remote yarrow]

Welcome to AL, higher rarity does not always mean better, there's god damn awful SR ships and gear in the game

[remote yarrow]

In any case use the recommended fleet in the guide, feel welcome to ask whatever you don't get/understand or question you got

[foggy remnant]

How do we feel about these comps?

[remote yarrow]

Confusing siding more into kinda bad

[foggy remnant]

what to change?

[remote yarrow]

Why is non retro TY tanking and why is Unicorn flag

[hollow ridge]

oh thanks! i just reset the guild using 50 tokens to now buy Helena (since i alr got Unicorn)

[hollow gust]

Where are your tanks

[remote yarrow]

Plus if it werent for Uni I would know which one is mob

[foggy remnant]

im in the middle of reto-ing her, and idk why lol

[remote yarrow]

I think you are better off redoing these

[foggy remnant]

ok but how?

[remote yarrow]

If you need help with it post your dock in a thread sorted by level, leaving out common and rare ships

[foggy remnant]

alr

[vernal edge]

How does fire work on enemy in the game again? HP% or is it set number? Implying its a frontline firesetter

[crimson glacier]

scales from fp

and pretty sure its also from the hit itself but idk

[plain saffron]

/wiki damage calculations#burns

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations

[plain saffron]

Where tf is burn

[vernal edge]

What is BurnCoefficient? Chance to start a fire?

[steady beacon]

Nah, it's just a multiplier specific to that burn
You can find the coefficients for each burn in the table in that section

Burn chance for any given source of burn is its own thing

[vernal edge]

Well, there is no Pittsburgh yet in the table

[plain saffron]

Iirc someone said generic burn id

[steady beacon]

Ye, Rice's page says it's a standard burn

[plain saffron]

Or does the skill says special burn

[remote yarrow]

"Lv.10 special barrage; enemies hit by the barrage are burned" does this translate as a special burn?

[plain saffron]

Nope

[boreal wagon]

its 311

[plain saffron]

The barrage is "special", it just happens to proc burn

[remote yarrow]

It's nerd talk time 🍿

[mystic topaz]

did you uhh.. throw any money in the game yet..? might not be too late to restart.. and get those books back but uhh, i'm not sure if that's even such a good move, but just putting it out there, seeing how early this account looks

[plain saffron]

When this ship fires her Main Guns: 50% (80%) chance to fire a Lv.1 (Lv.10) special barrage I (DMG is based on the skill's level); enemies hit by this barrage are inflicted with the following debuff: inflicts a special Burn ailment lasting 5s, inflicting 150 DMG every second and spreading this Burn to 1 other enemy (excluding the enemy afflicted by it) once every second.

An example of special barrage with special birn

[remote yarrow]

who that tho

[plain saffron]

Alvitr

[vernal edge]

Does "base gun damage" mean no enchance?

[plain saffron]

Need more context

[vernal edge]

Formula

[steady beacon]

Just means the damage per shot

[vernal edge]

So it scales as +10\13 gun shot, right?

[foggy remnant]

Comp help

[steady beacon]

Oh by enhance do you mean like
+x level of the weapon
If so, yes

[left obsidian]

Hey guys!
Just wondering which of these beauts I should UR Bulin in order?
I got enough 24 UR Bulins atm

[steady beacon]

Well, the +13 scale level is technically the weapon coefficient, but yes, it is factored in

[plain saffron]

Weapon base dmg is the 13x5 etc
It increase until +10
+11 to +13 increases the weapon coefficient

[remote yarrow]

I'm surprised how much you have saved without limit breaking all those URs

But would say, Alsace,Soyuz,Guam,Laffey,Vanguard are good candidates

[rose cosmos]

Invitation kind of mid as a whole tbh

[plain saffron]

Depends

[remote yarrow]

That's your opinion but ok? Idk what did you expect for free

[plain saffron]

Is sirius in there

[rose cosmos]

Yeah I chose sirius too

[alpine grail]

She is

[plain saffron]

She's good though

[alpine grail]

Low-key been debating between her and Jeanne

[plain saffron]

You can get jeanne from war archive

[alpine grail]

Oh true

[plain saffron]

Or merit shop

[rose cosmos]

I mean yeah but if you spam daily pool enough sirius will eventually appear too

[alpine grail]

Guess I'll yoink Sirius then, idk how much the others might be useful for me

[plain saffron]

Yeah but that's rng. Sirius is rng, jeanne is guaranteed so it's obvious who is more money worth

[remote yarrow]

Reno,Bremer,Sirius,Shoukaku,Bismarck,Rossiya,Jeanne and Pola are the choices

There's atleast 2 good choices in there imo

[alpine grail]

Bremer and Jeanne you can get from War Archives so they seem like the worst choices honestly

[rose cosmos]

“Technically” pola is worth the pick no?

[sterile jolt]

Not really

[vernal edge]

Not really?

[remote yarrow]

She's pretty meh

[vernal edge]

Half of her kit needs Zara, and Zara overall is better

[rose cosmos]

Not like meta worthy, but she is prob wanted for tech points

[remote yarrow]

she has FP iirc

nvm it's hit

Zara was the one that had FP

[alpine grail]

Who are the best two picks though? From reading the pin seems like most are pretty meh

[sterile jolt]

Jeanne and sirius

[remote yarrow]

Sirius and Jeanne are good options

[alpine grail]

Oh so literally the two I was debating between lmao

[vernal edge]

JdA and Sirius, Brem maybe

[remote yarrow]

I'm lazy to do WA so I'm probably going for Jeanne instead of Pola

[glossy wolf]

Reno, Bremerton，Sirius,Shoukaku,Bismarck,Rossiya,Pola
Which should I pick?

[rose cosmos]

Who’s the best pr5 for catch up, breast?

[urban grail]

How's eldridge post-kai

[sterile jolt]

Ply and harbin

[remote yarrow]

We just got her almost 2 hours ago, wait for testing

[alpine grail]

So the smartest pick is Sirius then since JdA and Bremer can just be obtained from WA later on if you really want them

[crimson glacier]

isnt sirius on medal

[remote yarrow]

She is

[vernal edge]

I was actually considering Bismarck to pick since it will unlock FdG for me and she will be hogging MVP in exp farming, but then i thought about being lucky in september and rolling BB\BC in medal exchange, so i picked jda

[sterile jolt]

Yes

[cursive lark]

I have a rainbow ordnance report at my pre-complete os shop, will it be gone in like 22 hours?

[vernal edge]

JdA is just a pain in the ass to farm compared to medal exchange ships

[alpine grail]

Even if she is on medal seems smarter to go for the one you don't know when they might be available from medal and leave the two you could get from WA whenever you want to so it's not as time gated

[remote yarrow]

Either Jeanne or Sirius

wait you dind't name Jeanne was that intended?

[winter condor]

as far who i'm seeing is a bit on crack xD the people with better gears will get better data but i see her strong

[glossy wolf]

I already got Jeanne btw

[half plover]

are ap bb guns for d3 better than light? I kinda lack some damage with semi good gear

[remote yarrow]

Probably Sirius then to not need to pray for RNG and save 80 medals

[vernal edge]

Choice is obvious then, also if you have Pitt then kinda no point to pick Brem imo

[glossy wolf]

Alright, but hows Bismarck?

[remote yarrow]

Pretty Average

[ember swan]

chatroom what is like the best way to farm event, just spam the hardest stage possible?

[remote yarrow]

D3 > D1 > C2 > B3 > Highest you can do

[remote yarrow]

Don't you have Indiana?

[ember swan]

thank you chatters

[remote yarrow]

or was it another guy

[vernal edge]

Spam SP into D3>Spam D3 until failure >Do normal circle or\and spam highest hard map possible for you

[glossy wolf]

Did you mean Indianapolis?

[sterile jolt]

Indiana

[remote yarrow]

Nope, Indiana the new BB

[glossy wolf]

I see, not yet

[remote yarrow]

Dw, no need to pull for her just was curious, save for UR event

Since you were asking for Bismarck I thought you lacked BBs but she isn't worth getting either way

[alpine grail]

I need to create a thread when asking for fleet help and post all my screenshots in that right?

[sterile jolt]

Yes

[glossy wolf]

I see, just thought that she kinda cool

[vernal edge]

Bismarck is just an oasis in the desert of underwhelming KMS shitters that are easily available, she is kinda needed to unlock FdG quicker, and also the one that actually carries backline exp farming stage But she is available to buy in medal exchange, so not really high priority pick. Also meh AA

[remote yarrow]

You know who's cooler and the best BB in the game? Bismarck Zwei

just hold off to those cubes

[sterile jolt]

Or Alsace...

[alpine grail]

Need help fixing fleets please

[reef flume]

Musashi looks more cool than Zwei

[glossy wolf]

I thought bismarck and Bismarck zwei is the same

[remote yarrow]

Not my point but ok

[sterile jolt]

Equal in some cases but not better

[reef flume]

They are the same person

[sterile jolt]

Just different usage

[remote yarrow]

Different ships

[reef flume]

My point wasn't to say Musashi>Zwei tho.....

[glossy wolf]

I see

[sterile jolt]

Ok ok

[mystic topaz]

when you say pain in the ass to farm, that also implies as expensive, oil wise (time too), right?

[vernal edge]

60 runs if you are very unlucky, and you need to get to the map you want to farm first

[mystic topaz]

right, oil that could be better spent elsewhere, perhaps? (opportunity cost)

[half plover]

for war archives in general oil cost is what makes it not that efficient to farm

you really just farm war archive if u are desperate for tech or really need a ship

[eternal basalt]

It has oilcap, same as all other d3's

[half plover]

otherwise events / higher campaign stages like 12-1 are way more efficient

[half plover]

but you get bad clearing rewards and bad exp ig

kk

[eternal basalt]

No clearing rewards, and D3 xp yes

[prime kraken]

should i switch focus to PR7? after fate sim update for PR6 its kinda impossible for hindenburg's BP to show up now, and i need like 57 BPs left for her

[half plover]

in comparison*

[tame jungle]

Just keep at it

[mystic topaz]

thanks, i think i have an answer now

[half plover]

but when you feel like doing war archives like for tech just do it, it has a lot of ships that are really hard or costly to get otherwise

so as long as you have a reason to farm WA it is fine

[eternal basalt]

During current event focus on that, you can farm WA in the downtime

[glossy wolf]

Need help on rebuilding my fleet

[midnight bluff]

What does the bar above coin expansion mean?

[vernal edge]

Progress to unlock another level as a guild?

[eternal basalt]

Give resources each day to progress

[midnight bluff]

Is there a reason why there is no bar on the oil expansion?

[eternal basalt]

You can only level one at a time

[midnight bluff]

So i cant choose which to lvl?

[eternal basalt]

Guild leaders / officers set them

[midnight bluff]

Ah ok got it ty

[gusty olive]

Are the muse gears drop from archives or need to clear 60 times?

[cobalt rapids]

clear 60

[hearty canyon]

Can someone tell me if there is a way to clear the story faster

I’m at 7-3

[eternal basalt]

Faster?

[hearty canyon]

Yes

[eternal basalt]

They already decreased times to clear

[hearty canyon]

What bothers me is that it take I think 3 to 4 times to finish one part of a chapter

Really?

How many times it takes to clear it?

[eternal basalt]

Depends on map

[hearty canyon]

I didn’t touch the story for like 3 years I think

Because of how many times you need to clear it

[eternal basalt]

Well, they lowered it since then

[vernal edge]

Number of runs is still nothing before commander level gatekeep

[hearty canyon]

Level gatekeep?

[eternal basalt]

Need a specif commander level per chapter

[hearty canyon]

I’m stuck on level 73 for years now Quit literally.

[atomic abyss]

The campaign maps you can go to are limited by commander le el

[hearty canyon]

I didn’t know that

What is the best team for clearing the story

No need to worry about oil consumption

[vernal edge]

Depends on the chapter

[hearty canyon]

Is that important? Can’t you brute force your way through it?

[sharp socket]

you can yes, until you hit w13

[hearty canyon]

I’m stuck at w7

For three years now

[sharp socket]

what ships are you using

[vernal edge]

Make a thread with your fleet and dock

[hearty canyon]

Sorry if misunderstood but i’m not stuck because my ships but because of how many times you need to clear one part of the map

This is my team now

I’m trying to find a faster way to destroy my enemies ships

So I’m using my strongest ships i have

This is the ships i have

I have more but i don’t think i need to screenshot everything

[half plover]

You just have to clear a map ~3 times until you get to the next one so there's no shortcut to that

but pushing would give you way better coin and exp rates than chilling in chapter7

but you should probably be able to clear chapter12 with this dock

[hearty canyon]

Can you help me with a team to beat the world faster?

Regardless of oil consumption

[half plover]

so first, don't use non-mlb ships in general. if you use a 3 star vanguard for example it takes tons of time

because a mlb rare ship might outdps her

[hearty canyon]

Mlb?

[half plover]

max limit break (full stars)

[smoky palm]

My cat should be good now that I managed to roll Alpha Wolf on it right? (I run wolf pack with U-81, U-96, and U37)

[half plover]

try this team: New Jersey (flagship), chise, taihou, agir, yuudachi, laffey for mob and just throw in enty and other strong ships for boss

I think you feel like it takes forever because you don't use your ships to full potential and they are missing like 1/3 or more of their potential damage

[marsh swift]

Methinks just fully limitbreaking Bismark Zwei would be enough

Jersey, bz, and uldrich should be able to mog anything up to 12-4

• use exp packs to forcefully level your ships more if they feel weak. A team of 120 purples can get through the 12s

[worldly pewter]

make a thread post ur dock and depot

[hearty canyon]

Thanks a lot for your help

[eternal basalt]

Best dont use UR Bulins till they revealed the newest release, on the 7th

[undone plover]

I think best cat would be sth with max RLD stat for subs but that is a great cat even if not perfect

[whole crypt]

it's fine with bidders

sup mogs

[smoky palm]

Thats what im using rn, well 5 bidders at least.. still have one more I need to get

[whole crypt]

more RLD is ideal but you're probably fine if you're not building for G7es

[hearty canyon]

What is the best ssr or sr planes to use on a carrier without crafting one

I’m using helldiver

[undone plover]

depends where u use them
and with who
for campaign?

[whole crypt]

you're not going to find a better DB than helldiver outside of goldiver and tenrai for most part, and goldivers are only marginally better for much higher investment

[hearty canyon]

Yes

[undone plover]

use one of these loadouts
higher is better
and if u have rainbow gear let me know

[hearty canyon]

I don’t have any

But thanks a lot for the help

[worldly pewter]

told him to make a thread with depot and dock
completely ignored me

[whole crypt]

hellcats are a thing too, and outside of plane hells all the 2x500s are just as well for fighters

[snow fractal]

Guys is fargo good?

[whole crypt]

if you need to ask if Fargo is good chances are you shouldn't use Fargo

[undone plover]

but hellcats dont upgrade to flapjack right? and only marginally better than f4u corsair anyway
and ultimately not the best (most efficient) transitional to use

[hearty canyon]

Sorry about that but I don’t know how to make a thread i don’t know how to use discord

[whole crypt]

they can be made into tigercats which is still fair game

[worldly pewter]

pancake is a lot better imo but not worth the hassle before w13

[plain saffron]

about to ask if uni good turns out i shouldn't use her

[undone plover]

i think crafting tigercats is niche these days but i could be wrong

[whole crypt]

flapjacks are not significantly better than any of the 2x1000s outside of interception

[undone plover]

can also do it here

[undone plover]

well yeah but that is not a minor point is it? interception is a big deal

[plain saffron]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/1ryn4o8t8AcbXUXTVLdRK-iPc10Zs5int_UjGafI1Q6Q/pubhtml#

[whole crypt]

it's not a big deal until 15

[sharp socket]

i was told tigercat is cheaper sidegrade to flapjack

[whole crypt]

it isn't they don't use the exact same materials

[hearty canyon]

I need help with clearing the campaign faster using stronger ships

[undone plover]

technically it is
but for any chapter below 15 u can use anything tbh
and for 15 u prefer flapjacks

[whole crypt]

if your concern is electronics then flaps are cheaper by 1

tigercats cost 1 more electronics but doesn't eat as much into your ordreps

[sharp socket]

i thought the cheaper was because flapjack uses ordnance plan which is rarer than plane plan

[undone plover]

but electronics is also kind of rare
and u dont need tigercats whereas flapjacks are kinda needed for 15
although i could be wrong
not sure if sushi aquila clears without flapjacks

[whole crypt]

ordreps only matter more to the extent where you need to craft ordrep gear, but that includes rainbow PR gear

electronics aren't that rare but you use a lot of them, saving 1 out of 20 isn't significantly helping

[undone plover]

i meant more in the sense u save 21 by not crafting a tigercat which u dont need

[whole crypt]

tigercats are fine to use for any slot not replaced by a flapjack

I hardly used any flapjacks for 15 clear iirc, but I don't remember if flapjacks have already been added

at best it would have been 2-3 flapjacks out of the 11 or so fighter slots including support

[hollow sail]

i consider flapjacks more expensive, saving a couple electronics won't make a difference. saving a dozen gold ordnance does, 8 gold ordnance = 1 UR ordnance and UR ordnance is very scarce to acquire as is. doesn't really inherently say anything about whether you should make tigercats at all or not though

i made a couple and wouldn't say i regretted it at that point. but that's me

[forest palm]

that conversion rate barely justifies itself, barely any of the current UR gear that uses T3 Ords are worth the mat investment

[undone plover]

i also have 1
it is nice for stagger
but i cant rly recommend someone asking about what to make (i.e they have limited resources) to make tigercats

[whole crypt]

neither are high priority crafts if you're short, converging torps for one

[hollow sail]

that is true, maybe worth keeping in mind when tenrai hits the gear lab though (and later on plygun, but that's further away)

[cobalt rapids]

flapjacks were def a thing on w15 release

[whole crypt]

they probably were but I didn't craft a bunch just for use in 15 since 👴have 🐯

[forest palm]

for reference 457 can be supplemented by a 406/50, or MK7, the 234 is wholly unnecessary within the current meta game, and the Spearfish is just a worse Wyvern

[inner delta]

spear isn't always worse wyvern smh

[whole crypt]

spearfish is just overpriced it's not necessarily worse

[inner delta]

it has good targetted rocket for humanoid

[vagrant harness]

are any of the new uss ships good?

coz i dont have enough coobies

[cobalt rapids]

all golds are good

[late flame]

save

[whole crypt]

golds good purples purple skipping is fine

[forest palm]

I have yet to see where the Spearfish is any better than a Wyvern, outside of maybe having a faster launch time

[whole crypt]

less overkill more damage to spread around for mobbing

[cobalt rapids]

mby its slightly better in opsi mobbing, maybe idk

[jade ibex]

So eldridge retro yay or nay?

[inner delta]

it def been serving good for w15 mobbing

[cobalt rapids]

i didnt notice any difference

between wyv and spear in 15

[hollow sail]

the only empirical test i've seen concluded wyvern better than spearfish for W15, there are claims of supposed spearfish and breguet timings that are helpful but i have not seen the proof (and even crazy claims that breguet is better than wyvern within this purpose which sounds absurd and again i have not seen the evidence)

[forest palm]

I think that's the only place where I noticed an improvement, and that's mostly cause I'm throwing my mob fleet at abyssal, and so on

[inner delta]

breg is used when you want the timing to spread more on launch time

it's not specifically better for dmg

[polar linden]

Not sure yet,been using her on the event map only

[whole crypt]

I think breguet was only because of faster intercept or some shit but you're definitely losing damage

[whole crypt]

yay or nay for what though

[hollow sail]

the damage diff between breguet and wyvern is so ludicrously large, that it would not even be remotely worth the minor interception advantage breguet has

[polar linden]

I think she's good for both mob and boss since both dealt a lot of hit on us

[forest palm]

as far as I can tell Eld is going to be a mob tank if things work as intended

[whole crypt]

some people swear by it, different people have different experiences, you could probably try to do some empirical testing then folks will tell you those weren't the ships/gear they used it with

[jade ibex]

But is it worth the investment as a mob tank with all the other ssr alternatives?

[whole crypt]

if you can't afford it just hold on to it

unless you have an idea what role she's going to replace very specifically

[forest palm]

there's still a lot of figuring out interms of application for Eld Kai tbh

[hollow sail]

i would be more inclined to believe the reload difference for airstrike launch would be what's making the difference in specific setups, but yeah even then it is hard to believe

[whole crypt]

I threw Eldridge into Wichita META fleet which basically means I'll need to find her a new use in about a week

[shell sigil]

Hello guys, where can I get help with fleet building? Came back to the game few days ago, and wasn’t playing much before, need some advises about my fleets 😅

[cobalt rapids]

open a thread here

[whole crypt]

you can ask here, if you have a lot to ask then maybe start a thread possibly with your dock and depots screenshoted

[shell sigil]

Need help in building fleets

[shell willow]

is stream confirmed to be on 7th?

[whole crypt]

the offline stage events are already confirmed to be 7th and 8th and they'll be streaming from there

[shell willow]

lit

[golden moth]

7th or 8th of..sept?

Do u mean the UR ijn event..hmm or call to arms first tho

[whole crypt]

chances are CTA will start the Thu before that, with the event starting the following Thu after the stream announces the ships

[golden moth]

Hmm i see..noted

[cinder lodge]

would this fleet be good for w14? (pretend theyre alll maxed, im broke rn )

[hollow sail]

NJ not great for W14 mobs

[wary star]

Is there a strong main fleet shipin the 6th anni letter?

[cinder lodge]

should i put her in boss instead

[hollow sail]

essex also not the best

[twin isle]

Anyone else has problems with LDplayer? Game freezes quite often during battles!

[cinder lodge]

yea, my CVs are pretty limited right now

[hollow sail]

you kinda want to avoid USS BB because world 14 largely prefers having a strong HE CL aux gun on your BB (and in respects to NJ, good untargeted damage to which her barrage targets so not great there either)

[cinder lodge]

i see

also i almoost have agir, would she be useful?

[ebon verge]

maybe try higher ram in ld player settings if possible, it also happened to me

[undone plover]

check the pins for more details
holding on to the selector is also an option to use it later for collection when u are missing 1-2 from that list

[twin isle]

Thanks

[hollow sail]

on boss still useable as tank

[wary star]

6th anni invitation

[rose whale]

any ship worth getting in this batch? 😄

[undone plover]

probably princeton and chiyoda for CV RLD tech but only if u have a lot of coobs otherwise just pick 2 from light and do dailies there

[cinder lodge]

would agir be a good replacement for anchorage?

[worldly pewter]

thread post dock and depot

[zenith heron]

The best tank would be Anchorage due to the Evasion for 2 seconds
(Procs via her torps)

But if you want a Slow debuff and some good damage for a boss fleet, would recommend Agir for ya...

[soft raft]

You're overselling Agir's slow debuff
On paper Agir is tankier than Anchorage but there's some content where her heavy armor is more of a detriment compared to Anchorage and Brest's Medium armor

[zenith heron]

Just probably the fact that torps can melt faster on Agir due to heavy armor

And yeah, the slow is niche ngl

[forest palm]

no one times Agir slow with anything, it's fucking shit, and ignorable to her overal usability 📣

[sinful elk]

Chat is eldrige retro worth it?

[dawn quarry]

What does this do actually? I just blindly did it

[civic crag]

Is Helena META better than Helena Retrofit

[civic crag]

Blueprints for hakuryuu dev

[dawn quarry]

Blue print?

[civic crag]

Have you unlocked shipyard

[dawn quarry]

Yeah

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[civic crag]

You will need blueprints to improve the ship

When you finish developing a ship it looks like this

[civic crag]

Is Helena META or retrofit better

[soft raft]

they do different things but you'd use regular Helena/Helena retro alot more than her META counterpart

[shell willow]

they do different things

[civic crag]

Oh

[cursive lark]

When do one ever use helmet?

[vernal edge]

When driving a bike? Which helmet exactly?

[shell willow]

what helmet?

[civic crag]

Does Helena retrofit’s damage buff really justify the sacrificing potential damage output of a ship like sandy Kai or portland

[novel solstice]

Helena META is sometimes abbreviated Helmet.

[civic crag]

I’m ngl I think bro meant Helena but autocorrect

[shell willow]

ah

[civic crag]

Oh Fr

[soft raft]

why wouldnt you keep the good gear on them?

[civic crag]

No like I mean like a slot in your vanguard

[soft raft]

depends on the content and what othe ships are in your comp

[civic crag]

Is she better for bossing or mobbing

[vernal edge]

Ok i understand sandy kai, but portland as a damage dealer? Huh

[soft raft]

mainly bossing outside of W14-15 where she just gets benched

[civic crag]

I meant plymouth my bad

[cursive lark]

Is helmet for root?

[dawn quarry]

ahhhhhhhhhhh..... Breh..

[civic crag]

Is she any use in OpSi?

[shell willow]

her root is quite unreliable

[soft raft]

kinda but it's too scuffed to justify building around
esp when backline ships like Ark Royal, Implac, and AvP do it better

[soft raft]

yes
She's good for bossing everywhere except W14-15

[cursive lark]

Cuz she is kinda good for every 15s sync

[civic crag]

Is AvP really good for like abyssal and harbiters

[cursive lark]

But like everyone uses helena but not helmet

[civic crag]

Ark royal meta or retrofit?

[soft raft]

unless you had three triple 457s, good luck syncing to 15s with 20s reload guns

[soft raft]

yes
esp at FS5 when her freeze proc rate becomes 100%

[civic crag]

Wait is there a guide to building ships or is slaimuda.github.io my best bet

[dawn quarry]

Would it be alright if I start gathering blue print for this one then ? or start on other pr ship

[soft raft]

read the guide I linked

[civic crag]

I’m not gonna lie I think you might want to focus PR4 cause they’re all really strong except Marco Polo

[cursive lark]

Tbh I don't even know whether that is possible, I am at 17s with my tech. Hence was my question, how do one even use helmet?

[soft raft]

/equip (first link) has more detailed overviews, you can use ECTL as a side piece but dont treat it like the bible

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[civic crag]

Thanks

[dawn quarry]

What about lack of tech point?

[soft raft]

realistically outside of fleet tech grind, you dont
same goes for a majority of the showdown METAs

They can all be summariazed as "Good but better options exist" and you'll likely already be using said better options to get their points

[soft raft]

You obtain/MLB (lvl 70)/Lvl 120 ships of the respective faction
And for some of the factions that dont have enough perament ships, you can give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

[vernal edge]

I dont need to get chips in the event shop, right? Only arrays?

[soft raft]

if you have enough cogs yee

[dawn quarry]

Ahh tyty

[vernal edge]

At which campaign chapter oil cap is online? 10?11?12?

[civic crag]

Ch9 iirc

[soft raft]

W9 and afterwards after 100% clear

[civic crag]

When you do those actions you’ll see a number appear top left corner of the screen showing how many tech pts u gained

[dawn quarry]

This stuff really annoying

[night crow]

Does Eldridge retrofit remove her first skill cooldown entirely now ?

[jaunty vault]

theres no change regarding the cooldown

[night crow]

Crap I thought since it wasn't written on the skill

[shell willow]

tooltip error

[abstract solar]

Is it worth raising eldrige for her retrofit?
The ur vanguard ships I have are aegir, drake and kronshtadt

[jaunty vault]

would recommend you raise sandy first

[soft raft]

people literally just got her retrofit item today, no one's done proper testing yet

[night crow]

I'm still testing her out, see if she's good in a boss fleet with ther 10s atack avoidance et new slow

[abstract solar]

Have sandy done too

[jaunty vault]

then ask that question again in a week

[abstract solar]

Gotcha

[crimson glacier]

eldridge just looks like shit

[night crow]

And that good sir, is your opinion

[crimson glacier]

everything outside of her skills is just awful

[worldly pewter]

what are u doing in campaign
go back to the event

[turbid shell]

is there maintenance tomorrow?

[wind hazel]

no

[vernal edge]

Do i spend morale in opsi?

[soft raft]

No

[night crow]

OpSi doesn't consume moral

[keen sable]

no but it does check your morale

[wind hazel]

can you finish Rally Request with only 1 other active participant?

cool

[keen sable]

umm very difficult on this one though. there's only two weeks and you need two weeks of hard. previous mobilizations were like month long events

[wind hazel]

damn, think i missed 1 day already. cucked myself with an alt and too lazy to make a 3rd account

[civic crag]

Are there any UR planes you can get from OpSi that’s not from gear lab

[undone plover]

i missed one day does that mean i need another alt ?

[civic crag]

Any UR planes not from gear lab or events?

Where

[keen sable]

ops exchange shop coin > pr4 face > tenrai bp > tenrai count?

[civic crag]

Yes thanks

[keen sable]

if only we were less lazy then we could have been more lazy

[sage jay]

Hey everyone. I been playing on and off for a good while and now that I'm back and not sure to use for my fleets as I get though the stories. it will take a good amount of screenshots to show how many I have. any help would be appreciated.

[soft raft]

Post your dock in a thread so you don't clog up the main chat

[sage jay]

ohh i see the thread now. will post it there

[keen sable]

also create thread first, then post images

[sage jay]

Help with team building

[alpine condor]

is eldridge obtained with light building

[viscid swift]

no, merit shop only

[alpine condor]

man... alrighty tysmmm

[latent crag]

oh guys i think my "6-star airplane project" will be delayed infinitely.
at present, there are only 3 drawings, and one such aircraft requires 50 drawings...

[wind hazel]

huh?

[whole crypt]

Tenrai or La-9

[novel solstice]

Yeah, saving up the fifty blueprints for a rainbow gear is likely to take months, even if you're focusing on that. They're a serious grind.

[whole crypt]

it's like 2 months if you're lucky and focus hard

if not it's more like 4 months

[latent crag]

i want to exchange some but i dont have enough points.

[whole crypt]

I guess that's Tenrai and proto shop then

if you want more prints you need to focus the right series of research and pick the ones good for gear prints

[dawn quarry]

eheheh.. no choice I guess.

[whole crypt]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/科研策略专题攻略
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
pick your poison

[river junco]

Does grant or face have better chances of dropping ur prints? Also, is 1h q worth taking over other researches when focusing gear?

[whole crypt]

depends, yes

[latent crag]

so whatd i do to focus on these "right series"?
Any strategies on it?
oh well there's an answer, there's a question.

ok i got it

[left cedar]

Q-UL is the best for Gears
Q 4h and Q 1h is similar, but u cant keep 1h Q as needed to beat Q4h, so generally 4h > 1h

[whole crypt]

I won't guarantee it'll work for you but it's working for me
0.5hr Q > 0.5hr D > 4Q > 2Q > 1Q > 4G > 1.5G >2.5D > 2E (scrap)

[left cedar]

i'm focused into my Neko, so only 25 La-9 here

2Q > 1Q ? interesting

[river junco]

Better than me, only on 15

[shell willow]

how many nakhimov prints

[whole crypt]

about the same but as long as you're not guaranteed more Q's any higher is better

[latent crag]

ill try it then. thank you

[left cedar]

enough to D18+

[viscid swift]

as someone who's been heavily cubing I'm at 17 currently

[whole crypt]

1hr cube is when I reach the end of that list and don't get a research I want

[sharp socket]

what planes do i +13 before i do tenrai/wyvern +13

[left cedar]

RN without DR Prints conversion
D18 3/15
so it will be someshitty like 200 prints ?

[stoic tulip]

Are these gear load out recommendations at least somewhat reliable?

[shell willow]

25 la-9 next to that seems giga lucky

[left cedar]

just, git gud

[whole crypt]

what recommendations

[eager mulch]

no

[undone plover]

converging torpedo bombers

[stoic tulip]

The feature as a concept but for new jersey, too

[viscid swift]

the only one that's passable is the 3rd one

[eager mulch]

in game gear loadouts are bad

[stoic tulip]

Uh oh

[left cedar]

Wyvern +13 its a giant luxury and ego massage only, no reason to +13 wyvern

[eager mulch]

3rd times the charm cheeky

[whole crypt]

the problem with the loadout list is there's no actual context of where and how you use that loadout, and some are just plain rubbish

it's just people sharing loadouts they think are good

[sharp socket]

but if my mob is having trouble killing stuff then wouldnt +13 the wyvern help

[viscid swift]

yeah, the top looks like a PvP loadout being generous, the 2nd the AA and aux gun are bad, 4th is just bad all around

[eager mulch]

+13 460mm, twin 127, and vh plating is just nauseating to look at

[whole crypt]

and then there's me abusing the fact no one else uses the loadout list for common CVLs

does any of the EN servers have loadouts shared for the commons?

[left cedar]

if u mob are having trouble to kill something probally u are lacking who do damage, cuz mobbing rare times it will have a stronger TB CV/CVL

[sharp socket]

my mob is fixed to uni volga fdg

[whole crypt]

mob fleet where
if you lack damage for mob fleet it's a pretty big problem that +13 wyverns wouldn't really fix

[left cedar]

so focus on get best gears for FdG than spend 360 gold plates into Wyvern

[viscid swift]

W14 probably

I'd +13 a 457 before +13ing a Wyvern

[whole crypt]

I would too

[sharp socket]

cause i havent figured out how to sync my cv fleet yet

[whole crypt]

at least 457s are guaranteed to aim for command ships

[left cedar]

i more than anyone here can grant u that FdG is capable of reach 15-3 being the mob carry

[whole crypt]

you don't want to sync a mob fleet though

[sharp socket]

so i dont know what planes to +13

[sharp socket]

as in like for cv things

[crimson glacier]

the hidden good option is to not +13 anything

[left cedar]

Converger TBs Rocket planes and Tenrai after all TBs and Rockets

[whole crypt]

yes you desync everything to maximize damage uptime, and should just keep killing waves as they spawn

[sharp socket]

i just have 350 gold plane plates sitting around and i feel like i should do something with them

[whole crypt]

the same is true even for bosses in ch14+

[sharp socket]

what i mean is for cv fleet for whatever other things im doing like meta fight or harbiter or whatever

[left cedar]

Ryuuseis/Junkers to start
go to BFs and HVRAs
to finish Tenrais

that will be something like almost 2k gold AVI plates

[sharp socket]

can i safely +13 my flapjacks

[left cedar]

read wut i said above

[sharp socket]

so i get 3 ryuusei 3 junker 3 bf109

[left cedar]

its a start, but sync ur CVs to determine wut TBs u have to +13

[keen sable]

are you even using that?

[undone plover]

2 saiun 2 junker 2 ryuusei was good for me but now we also have the VIT-2

[left cedar]

after sync u decide ur needs and can safelly +13 them

[undone plover]

probably wait and see what your anti-heavy CV comp will look like then build toward that

[sharp socket]

i dont know how to cv fleet

[keen sable]

might i suggest #bot-spam /plus13

[left cedar]

generally Heavy/Light loadouts have different needs of planes, so sync both
Heavy and Light to determine ur needs

[undone plover]

typical one is nano/haku/implacable
i think this comp

[whole crypt]

there's no real magic though, if it's too slow use a faster plane, if it's too fast use a slower plane, if it's tiny timing nudges use bacon/manjuu

[viscid swift]

you have your slow(AvP or Implacable), have then launch 2nd and your other 2 CVs launch ideally within 0.2 seconds of your stopper

[thorn flume]

😭how can I farm her retro?

[eager mulch]

Voltage rising event right now

[thorn flume]

Wait what

[eager mulch]

the event, voltage rising gives her retro item

[whole crypt]

Eldridge retro was just added this event, the item is through the event now

[thorn flume]

Ok let me do quick mission. Tks

[sharp socket]

so i now have
enty 22.64
avp 22.68
sara 22.78
is this correct

[viscid swift]

that looks good yes

[left cedar]

why Sara ?

[eager mulch]

does that account rld buffs

[viscid swift]

though don't you have a Dev 30 Hakuryu now

[sharp socket]

other cv i have is indep

[whole crypt]

AvP reload buff

[sharp socket]

i have a d30 haku ready but im building

also have shinano but waiting for september UR

avp has no rld buff

[undone plover]

your fleet will be AvP/nano/haku
build +13 for that
not your transitional fleet

or just wait

[viscid swift]

she does, read her skills again

[sharp socket]

i didnt give her IB plane

[left cedar]

AvP have a RLD Buff

[viscid swift]

why aren't you giving her an IB plane?

[sharp socket]

she has uh tigercat helldiver baguette

[left cedar]

why no Converger TB into AvP ?

[sharp socket]

oh i should get those right

[eager mulch]

no conv tb avp gaming

[viscid swift]

why is she using a Breguette

[sharp socket]

ill get back to you guys tomorrow when i have coins

[viscid swift]

the whole point of using a stopper is so you can ensure your ordinance lands which means among others converging TBs

[whole crypt]

didn't we start this conversation saying you should get and +13 converging TBs before considering wyvern

[bold salmon]

is eldridge worth the investment?

[eager mulch]

worth is relative

[worldly pewter]

cheeky already answered that question 3 weeks ago

[whole crypt]

if you're not sure just do it later
doesn't look like she has any real meta spots yet

[bold salmon]

like on the level of yuudachi?

[whole crypt]

well she's also much more expensive to retrofit than Yuudachi

[sharp socket]

yeah okay ill go figure out how to cv fleet tmrw and then come back

[viscid swift]

yes, her cost is more similar to Sandy/Warspite

[hollow sail]

yuudachi is uniquely cheap, if you ignore the investment you need to get her in the first place

[whole crypt]

also do you already have Eldridge, if not are you comfortable with the merit cost right now

[sharp socket]

i did also want to know how to time which planes to fire first so i didnt have to trial and error myself

[bold salmon]

i do just the usual 120

[whole crypt]

we haven't found any real place to slot her unless you want to try using her for Wichita META

truth is even Yuudachi doesn't really get used nowadays

[stark quiver]

just eyeball it
ship/avp/ship
should be the firing order

[subtle tinsel]

How to get a lot of Eagle Union tech point?

[whole crypt]

LB/level a lot of USS ships

[dawn quarry]

Guys I want too retrofit z23 where does it drop?

[stark quiver]

olbain / mlb/ lvl 120 USS ships

[subtle tinsel]

what is olbain and mlb

[whole crypt]

getting the ship
max limit break

[stark quiver]

every single map

[wind hazel]

obtain*

[vale spindle]

Any stage except chapter 1

[dawn quarry]

:0..

Is my luck just that bad ;-;

[subtle tinsel]

Thx

[wind hazel]

just keep farming, she will drop eventually

[whole crypt]

starters also not in event map drop pools are they

they basically drop in whole of campaign outside of ch1 though

[viscid swift]

they are not

[whole crypt]

unless you play on JP

[undone plover]

Don't feel bad about asking
CV gear is not that straightforward and don get discouraged by ppl telling u otherwise

also best to ask what to +13 ten times before u use gold plates by mistake

[dawn quarry]

welp, ig il just farm then. z23 in any shop? No?

[whole crypt]

nope

[stark quiver]

just play as you would, and probably drop her along the way

[dawn quarry]

Hsudhsisjhdhsubfnzis, I get it

[keen sable]

why do you need to get z23 and retrofit z23 specifically?

[dawn quarry]

I just can, and like why not? XD if I can't then it's alright but if I can then why not

[stark quiver]

everyones got their reasons, but yea, youll drop her sooner or later

[dawn quarry]

ik, just curious so I came here too see if there's any other way

[stark quiver]

nah

[keen sable]

drop...why even bother starting. clearly the original starter exists? But anyways I'm just checking you aren't under some misconception that you need a dupe to retrofit or something like that.

[atomic abyss]

just patience

[worldly pewter]

why u didn't pick her as ur starter or was that question answered ?

[keen sable]

oh you are under that misconception maybe?

[left cedar]

maybe he just like her ?

sounds like someone that start the game and have tons of beautys and wanna be a pokemon master and get them all

[keen sable]

you don't need a dupe to retrofit her though. and refusing to retrofit her with a bulin is quite extreme.

[vernal edge]

Anyways, drops on any map past ch2

[zenith heron]

Is there anyway that Eldridge Retro can be useful in any hard content (W14-15 or OpSi) considering the only change I see is a special barrage that has an all armor 120% modifier (if this is true) and just +10 speed without no additiont percent ratio on the 10 second vanguard invul when she gets damaged, and the added niche AA & ASW skill?

[undone plover]

didnt someone say she is current best for wichita fight (according to CN) wich is probably one of the toughest META fights so far?

[atomic abyss]

w14 definitely, since ASW is relevant there

[undone plover]

does that count as hard content

[atomic abyss]

w15 unlikely, only DD that works there is Laff 2 cos of her AA+tank

yes she is currently one of the best options for michita

[zenith heron]

For most of you no, for me yes

[atomic abyss]

anyways, subject to more testing

[undone plover]

i am closer to you than most of them

[worldly pewter]

we are zoomers mate

[zenith heron]

Could've added that percent ratio imo

[worldly pewter]

he is closer to them than us

[signal pollen]

In opsi, would a 3 UR bb comp(any boss armor), triple rocket fighter(assuming target is light), or triple converging torpedo(any armor) would do more damage?

[atomic abyss]

that's not really a fair comparison

[worldly pewter]

just be careful from harmony

[atomic abyss]

and it depends on a lot of other things

[keen sable]

but that's not the only change? she won't get slaughtered in the first 20s anymore. in fact she's invulnerable for 10 of it.

[atomic abyss]

for example - which carriers are we talking about her
does the boss have any gimmick that causes them to take less damage from a certain damage source?

[signal pollen]

Oh

Assume none?

[atomic abyss]

carriers have higher damage potential - subject to gear and tech
assuming everything else is constant, and no gimmicks

[unkempt solstice]

Hello for the hashtag event I didnt participate but do I still get the rewards?

[zenith heron]

Still on a 15% chance if she gets dmged, not good enough sadly unlike Enty. Probably to avoid for PVP reasons

[hollow gust]

you mean the twitter anf facebook thing? no, you have to participate

[signal pollen]

The rocket fighters are York 2, enty, and impeccable. The converging torpedo enty, independence, and impeccable

[unkempt solstice]

Ah gothca tyvm

[soft raft]

Huh what is Independence doing there

[atomic abyss]

that TB comp sucks so

[worldly pewter]

nah mate go back to the UR BBs

[dawn quarry]

????? U can?

[soft raft]

Independence can't use any of the converging TBs without losing her self buff to her efficiencies

[keen sable]

yes, just use a purple bulin

[atomic abyss]

if the 3 CVs are all carrying HVARs, they'll be the best for light over a UR BB comp if tech is right

[hollow gust]

your CVs are only beating UR bbs once you max your cv tech and +13 planes, which can take years

[dusk maple]

oh they removed the initial cooldown?

[soft raft]

Have fun trying to sync Independence with other CVs as well

[left cedar]

idk about that CVs beating FdG/UvH/Vang or Soyuz ...

[dawn quarry]

thankssssss. Damn I'm so dumb

[hollow gust]

a max out cv comp shits on it , why do you think people arent running pure bbs for wichita

[keen sable]

that's what the skill text says and other miners said but i haven't mined it myself

[keen sable]

glad i could help

[dusk maple]

i'll test it

[left cedar]

u read wut CVs he got ?

[eager mulch]

this is en, no one can read

[atomic abyss]

Ehh, yk2 impla enty is pretty fine for anti light though

[eager mulch]

i use yt2, kear, enty for my anti-light cv fleet

[hollow gust]

i thought u talking generally

[atomic abyss]

well, unlikely he has 5 HVARs lul

[hollow gust]

still not even close to bbs without the tech, no matter how many HVARs you have

[left cedar]

when i got a chance to defend my FdG i will

[hollow gust]

FDG users

[atomic abyss]

hence my response here ^

[reef flume]

FdG is amazing

[eager mulch]

FdG has a proximity barrage, she can defend herself from suicide botes just fine

[hollow gust]

for people with no other UR bbs

[signal pollen]

If I want to invest in a CV comp, would I rocket or converging torpedo be better? Or is it plane dependent

[viscid swift]

both

[keen sable]

i couldn't bring myself to +13 5 hvars even though i have more than enough resources

[keen sable]

cv dependent

[hollow gust]

if you want to invest in CV start leveling CV tech

[signal pollen]

CV tech like CV gear?

[zenith heron]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

no, fleet tech

[eager mulch]

if you want good cv fleet you have to invest in everything cv

[left cedar]

RLD Tech to be more precisely, like all of it

[atomic abyss]

high investment, high return admittedly

[hollow gust]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/
Sort by CV RLD AVI HIT

[viscid swift]

there is nothing to do but grind tech after a certain point

[signal pollen]

Aw so I have to level up cvs to 100?

[hollow gust]

120

[atomic abyss]

as said, high investment

[signal pollen]

Yeah I think I will MLB my vanguard then

[light trail]

eldridge worth retrofitting?

[hollow gust]

you also have to start doing BB HIT RLD FP too

[pulsar hornet]

Still no Pre Eval for Eldridge yes?

[signal pollen]

Like level up BB to 120 for tech?

[keen sable]

should tech dissuade you from having cvs? It's highly unlikely you have 9 BB better than your 3 best CV...

[ebon verge]

how much coin do you need to fully retrofit eldridge?

[atomic abyss]

depends on the UR BBs in qn i suppose

full retro for eld is close to 50k iirc?

[keen sable]

like sandy expensive

[dusk maple]

~~just tried out on some battles, still getting the first proc at minimum 20s into the battle ~~oh, i was just unlucky, got a proc at 18s

[sleek spade]

Does Kearsarge do good dmg or is she just a buffer?

[atomic abyss]

at least 50k, close to 60k

[atomic abyss]

UR BB, so very good damage

[sleek spade]

Nice thanks

[signal pollen]

My UR bb are NJ, Bismarck Zwei, and vanguard

[ebon verge]

rip coin storage from mails...

[warm latch]

research fdg if you havent done her yet

[light trail]

what's eldridge used for?

[worldly pewter]

she is currently still under testing afaik

[shell willow]

should be this much

[atomic abyss]

seems to be a tank support, but stay tuned for more testing

[light trail]

aye aye

[sleek spade]

Isnt laffii doing the same role

[crimson glacier]

i just dont see her being that good

[light trail]

i'll hold off until we know more

[atomic abyss]

laff2 is tank+AA - different role

[wild sinew]

Special ASW?
Is something like ghost guns but target subs?

[worldly pewter]

laffeii is time limited also

[crimson glacier]

laff2 also cant randomly die before doing something

[sleek spade]

Yea that too lol

And very good DD AA

[eager mulch]

laffii is just as time limited as eld retro item

[shell willow]

she does better for me than jda on 15-4 mob and i can also skip purple asw plane on uni but idk

[eager mulch]

if anything laffii was in the shop an extra week

[plain saffron]

Ghost gun but instead of gun it's depth charge, or hedgehog idk

[sleek spade]

Is jervis used for ch 14 mobbing or bossing? I have no idea which needs more asw

[stone sluice]

Is Houston II hard to drop? What’s the longest someone took to get her?

[eager mulch]

No subs in boss fight

[atomic abyss]

if you're using her, mob

[sleek spade]

Nice ty

Do I even need her or laffii with a hedgehog is fine?

Ah ok then

[crimson glacier]

I don't think houston2 is any harder to get than other boss only stuff

[eager mulch]

hedgehog + asw plane is enough asw for 14 and 15

[sleek spade]

Nice

[stark quiver]

Rng does wonders

[keen sable]

10 months and 2 days?

[atomic abyss]

the longest is "never" technically

[stark quiver]

I haven’t gotten my Houston 2 yet

[keen sable]

Seems before 20 to me

[crimson glacier]

Longest is usually the laziest

I feel like everytime there's long time to get something, ppl magically forget to mention that they took a 6 month break

Or do 0.3 runs a day on average

[keen sable]

you know it's working because she no longer dodges with a miss and just eats stuff

[shell willow]

lol

[orchid tulip]

do Guam's and Agir's Armor breaks stack or overwrite eachother?

[jaunty vault]

latter

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Armor_Break

[orchid tulip]

tyty

[dusk birch]

Where can I get more of this? The shop only sells one piece

[jaunty vault]

upcraft T2s

[dusk birch]

Do I have to wait for 5 months to get 9 of these then?

[keen sable]

Upgrade golds or not

[dusk birch]

Wait you can do that?

[viscid swift]

yes

[jaunty vault]

yes

[dusk birch]

This one right?

Holy, I didn't know. Need 8 tho. Still a lot

[soft raft]

yep 8 T2s per T3

if only you could craft T1s to T2s

[dusk birch]

Beating strongholds doesn't give the rainbow reports?

[soft raft]

not a guarentee (if they even drop there in the first place)

[jaunty vault]

strongholds don't give you T3 ordnance

[viscid swift]

I don't think T3s drop from anywhere

[dusk birch]

Oh? But you can?

[jaunty vault]

no they don't

[dusk birch]

Ah, shame

[jaunty vault]

not even arby drops one

[atomic abyss]

yeah, i don't think fastfood restaurants drop them

[jaunty vault]

fuck you

[soft raft]

But they do have the meats so you can at least grab something to eat

[dusk birch]

Gold ordnance also only available from shops?

[worldly pewter]

they are dropped from abyssals and cat nodes

that is why u should never slacc on these

[soft raft]

Fr tho, has anyone really used purple ords much?

[dusk birch]

Is Abyssals the one in the center of the map? Or do strongholds have them too?

[tame jungle]

Abyssals are the red enemy icons that are not in the center of the map. You’re thinking of the arbiter

[worldly pewter]

i used them 3 weeks ago for fw
armed 3 ships with 2 slots each

[dusk birch]

Yea, I was kinda fed up with the game for a few months. But now I'm returning and forgetting everything about OpSi lol

[worldly pewter]

yeah take it easy no need to rush anything

[dusk birch]

Hmmm I don't have anything like that on the map. Only yellow chests,

[worldly pewter]

u need to buy them from the port shop and voucher shop

there are daily missions that have the potential to give them as well as the cat nodes

[dusk birch]

Oh those logger things?

[worldly pewter]

yes siren

[dusk birch]

Ahhh ok, I think I know what I must do first thing then. Buying and clearing all those loggers

[worldly pewter]

u need to know that the abyssal fight doesn't let u go out of the map to heal when u lose

[hybrid sorrel]

Are limited banners also take a year to rerun in this game? I missed out on Alsace 😔

[worldly pewter]

u only have 2 mob fleets to hit when u get the toll
and u heal with the med kits

[worldly pewter]

around 2.2y

[wheat pine]

guys should I get eldridge retrofit or nah

[atomic abyss]

@dusk birch No such images here please

[hybrid sorrel]

Wth 2 years 💀 now i feel more bad lmao

Thank you for the reply!

[worldly pewter]

we zoomers have it rough here
i have to wait 2y for unzen

[thick pond]

If I buy the 2nd floor for moral, how much for a slots?

[dusk birch]

I've seen some people using her on pvp

[stark quiver]

Still missing yk2

[worldly pewter]

0

[cobalt rapids]

3 on first floor so u have 6 total

[wheat pine]

ain't getting it if it's only good for pvp

[cobalt rapids]

she isnt only good for pvp, stay tuned ™️

[wheat pine]

need some ship that are good on both pvp n battle

[atomic abyss]

the short answer is, we don't know - we need to test

[wheat pine]

lol ok

[dusk birch]

Give some time then. It's just today everyone gets the material for her retrofit

[wheat pine]

btw are the

fargo good

[cobalt rapids]

shes tentative SS in w15 tl

[wheat pine]

oh right I just got the item tdy 💀

[atomic abyss]

who, eld?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[atomic abyss]

makes sense

[sweet delta]

#trophy-room message only two for today because I didn't do showdown for so long that I thought assist was the one with support only Eldridge survived to the very end

200k mog when unchained

[solemn mountain]

where to get rainbow gear design plans from op sci. Is it Arbiter/Abyssal/Shop?

[undone plover]

And cats

[cobalt rapids]

3 blanks from ports, 1 from normal arbiter
rng plans from cat nodes and abysalls

[solemn mountain]

dang i didn’t know cats nodes could drop them. does higher corrosion level zones have a higher chance of it dropping?

[cobalt rapids]

cats dont spawn in c1/2
higher corrosion could mean multiple cat node spawns
overall c3 or c5 are the reccomended farm spots for ap dump coz of spawn/ap

[worldly pewter]

i have a conspiracy theory about hidden zones having better quality for cat nodes

[forest palm]

sounds like a placebo

[worldly pewter]

yeah might be

[north gazelle]

Is it possible to 1:1 d3 node?

[cobalt rapids]

its possible but its oilcapped

[undone plover]

Yes but why do u want to do that

[atomic abyss]

definitely, but pointless

[thick pond]

Review of Napoli's guns?

[undone plover]

If for first clear then sure u can do it before 100% since no oilcap

[viscid swift]

worse than existing options

[cobalt rapids]

worse than rainbows

[north gazelle]

No it consumes 35 oil which is too much for me. I am at 28k points only. I wanna try for 60k but seems that it isn't possible atm

[undone plover]

It is very possible
There is still 1 week left

Just use a full fleet

U can do the x3 on the easy maps with 1:1 fleets though
That can give u extra tokens per day

[shell willow]

you are at 28k with 60k goal and event is not even halfway done, ofc its possible

[viscid swift]

You get 15680 event points over 7 days just from SP, dailies, and daily first clear bonus on normal maps

[worldly pewter]

also why 60k

[north gazelle]

The plates

[worldly pewter]

[undone plover]

It is 55k this time (and usually)

[shell willow]

plates are at 55k

[viscid swift]

Plates are at 55k not 60k

[north gazelle]

Ok

Thanks a lot lets see I am able to do 9 d3 runs per day with the amount of oil I get.

[undone plover]

U can do it for sure
There is more oil in event shop
And next week as well
Dont worry about it

[north gazelle]

Ok thanks a lot.

Also I need help with second fleet

[undone plover]

Make a thread and post dock

[worldly pewter]

yeah i also need help with that

[viscid swift]

You'll manage that easily

[stoic tulip]

Anyone have suggestions for a bunker hill build?

Maybe for daily grinding or just map clears?

[cobalt rapids]

grinding bh build

[stoic tulip]

Man that's pretty loaded!

[torn latch]

Why I keep failing on Sandy extreme challenge, this feels like it's harder than when I was beating w14-4 boss for the first time

Now my VG is dying

[cobalt rapids]

whats ur comp and gear

[torn latch]

What's the name of this site, I want to use this instead of spamming screenshots

[cobalt rapids]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[torn latch]

Nice

[remote yarrow]

I miss renhex, may he rest in peace

[torn latch]

Oh no, downloading image, I probably will fell asleep during the wait

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[remote yarrow]

Can Alsace replace Zwei?

Also what's Vanguard's main gun?

[stark quiver]

That’s with max tech sushi?

[remote yarrow]

Oh its in the notes woops

[torn latch]

Wow nice

[torn latch]

This more or less, some are +13 though (like main gun on bis zwei, all staag, rainbow torps etc.)

[viscid swift]

again. using AP guns against a LIGHT armor boss

[shell willow]

[torn latch]

Oh I found out how to set them to +13

[torn latch]

Yeah, b-but timing

I guess I'm dumb and keep forgetting things

[viscid swift]

haven't I told you twice to change your guns to the twin 410mm...

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_410mm_(3rd_Year_Type)_Kai

[remote yarrow]

Reading is hard

[stark quiver]

Timing doesn’t matter if you do no damage

[torn latch]

I'm surely will not forget this time:clueless:

[stark quiver]

And idk why you’re using pearl on a cm fight

[remote yarrow]

HP Aux maybe

[torn latch]

T'was just set-up I use together with op-si, I just figured it won't be that matter for hp aux

[digital vault]

Did Shinano beach skin did a rerun this summer? Now that i got her i want it so bad

[torn latch]

WAIT ODIN GUN HAS UPGRADED VERSION?

Does that mean it is better than Odin gun overall, like the Belfast gun Kai version compared to the original?

So what is the situation when you want Odin gun Kai than the vanilla version? Just timing stuff?

[jaunty vault]

we got an odin gun kai?

[torn latch]

I just scrolled from this message link

And found out about it

[viscid swift]

Pommern gun actually

[shell willow]

swapping main gun to twin 406mm worked wonders 🙏

[vernal geyser]

is there VA in event and story?

[soft raft]

No

[vernal geyser]

okay

[north gazelle]

Fleet

[stark quiver]

How much rld and what gun did I need on bbs for warspite cm

[stone sluice]

You have to wait for Black Friday

[stone sluice]

You also get one from each Classified File ← Buy these from the OPS Exchange Shop

[copper wedge]

I need help deciding for my wishing well, I'm fairly new and have no real huge need for any type of ship. Thanks in advance.

I heard kazagumo and ryuuhou are useful, and I also want I-13 for collection purposes. Any other recommendations on who to pick or avoid?

[keen sable]

most likely no one and save

[copper wedge]

I was gonna do my daily pulls on it, but alright! Thanks.

[molten plover]

Does anyone happen to have the link to what gear is okay to scrap and what isnt?

[cobalt rapids]

safe to scrap in /equip

[keen sable]

i see. Kaza, Aurora, Yat Sen most likely but check pin

[soft raft]

there's information in the pins about it
Ryuuhou honstly isnt as useful as you think

if you have less than 400 cubes, skip it unless you set it to light pool to do your daily pull on

[night crow]

Indiana seems to be really good for bosses, any people who've maxed her ?

[sweet delta]

Nobody has maxed her, but she's not beating rainbow BBs other than warspite possibly

[night crow]

Of course not UR's but I like mixing things up and not always playing the best. She seems to have strong single target potential and can shield the main tank

[stuck dew]

I'd say kazagumo. uni just outshines every healer. though you could use double healer in w14 and 15 with ryuuhou and keep subs alive longer I guess. jean-d'arc is also useful but farmable.

[tame jungle]

JDA also available from the selector