gameplay-help

[pearl quarry]

And also what do I do with 1.19k gem

Aight what about sand Francisco

[remote yarrow]

If you are F2P 3rd dorm slot + 2nd floor and the rest on dock space

[atomic abyss]

buy a 3rd dorm slot, buy the 2nd dorm floor, rest go to dock space

san fran is good, but are you at the point where you need a 2nd fleet?

[pearl quarry]

No why

[atomic abyss]

then you shouldn't need to worry about other ships

[remote yarrow]

I'm curious on what fleet hes even using tbh

[atomic abyss]

^

[remote yarrow]

Care to show us to see if there's some room for improvement?

[pearl quarry]

I'm at 4-1

[atomic abyss]

#1204845559790440488 message

[remote yarrow]

Then use the recommended starter fleet that's in the newbie guide

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

And also read the guide itself while you are at it

If you got any questions feel free to ask them

[eternal basalt]

Stream 7 Sept... wait

[rain bobcat]

a breguet is not a baguette

a baguette has and will always be the french gold dd gun

[thorny laurel]

Does NJ 3rd skill increase her own FP for having Helena in vanguard?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[remote yarrow]

But in that context we were refering to the TB

[plain saffron]

Go to profile, choose secretary

[wet badge]

if a new ship is obviously powercreeping other top tier ships, will it get nerfed?

[rain bobcat]

the person in auestion and 1 more was spelling it wrong

[atomic abyss]

devs have never nerfed ships after they have been released

[wet badge]

WWWWW

[remote yarrow]

Nor buffed, only "fixed"

[rain bobcat]

I would assume it was referring to the dd gun because of spelling

[plain saffron]

Nope

[remote yarrow]

Well they did buff ships back in the day I think

[wet badge]

wait so if a UR ship is a worse elite rarity ship will it get buffed

[plain saffron]

Unless it's before game get online

[atomic abyss]

they buff ships "as they like"

[rain bobcat]

very unlikely it happens

[atomic abyss]

doesn't mean shit = get buffed

[wet badge]

W DEVS

[remote yarrow]

Thats really unlikely to happen

[rain bobcat]

drake buff when

[remote yarrow]

The most recent case of buffing or changing a ship was with Mogador that had a weirdly implemented skills that made her kill herself

[rain bobcat]

well i think that was more of a bug fix

[wet badge]

?????????

[remote yarrow]

So they changed her skill for that to not happen

[plain saffron]

Nerfing character after release is illegal

[rain bobcat]

since she weirdly lost too much hp after slicing

[remote yarrow]

Not a bug, just badly implemented

[spring bolt]

Sorry mis tapped

[atomic abyss]

hi

[plain saffron]

[remote yarrow]

She just face tanked stuff by getting too close

[rain bobcat]

if it wasnt what was intended I think it still sort of counts as a bug

[plain saffron]

Eeh

[remote yarrow]

I think they just didnt test it

[plain saffron]

Does bad skill count as a bug

I guess that means most augment is bugged

[rain bobcat]

[wet badge]

guys is napoli more worth than nakhimov

[plain saffron]

Because almost all of them is shit

[remote yarrow]

Different hull types and roles so theres no real comparison

But before thinking about PR7 you should focus on earlier seasons like PR4

If you havent completed it yet

[eternal basalt]

They have

[rain bobcat]

napoli best survival tank nakhi one of the best cv really doesnt make one worth more than the other because 1 they arent even both vg/main fleet

[lament bay]

is azur lane combat fps related? or can i use lower fps when farming in the backround on emulator

[remote yarrow]

#gameplay-help message I corrected myself after

[rain bobcat]

from what ive seen severely low fps can affect very close timings

but 30+ fps is good enough

[lament bay]

alright ill keep 30

[remote yarrow]

I play with 30fps on mobile and 60 on PC Emulator, havent seen much or rather any difference in combat outcomes

[lament bay]

i was doing 5 fps cap when tabbed out

[remote yarrow]

[rain bobcat]

yeah 30+ is good enuf

lower can affect backline timings

[spring bolt]

5 fps would give you weird results sometimes

[frank pulsar]

i used to play 15 fps without any issues, prob dont go lower than that or stuff might start breaking though

[sterile jolt]

The whole w15 is 15fps(or lower) gaming

[crisp estuary]

[dry tree]

Is the gold one still better than the UR for consistency? for shimakaze, thank you.

[half plover]

what do you think of buying Duke of York from merit shop when I don't have musketeer yet? both would cost 20k merit + 1200 cores in shops or 60 WA runs

[undone plover]

Elites have a better drop rate
If u still have things to buy from core shop get musketeer in WA imo
Duke of york u can buy if u plan to use her or raise her for tech

[half plover]

alr

btw I saw these torpedos sometimes in builds vs bosses etc

should I make one or more golden quad magnetics instead?

[pearl creek]

is Shimakaze a better investment overall than Mogador?

[atomic abyss]

yes, the UR gun is for raw gun DPS, which shima doesn't have
with that said, the single 113 is kinda waste of mats in and of itself so

[atomic abyss]

no, definitely not, not when unzen exists

[atomic abyss]

stick with mags unless you gonna manual

[pearl creek]

Does Unzen and Mogador pair well or smth?

[atomic abyss]

unzen is just the superior torper

mog is also a low prio UR

[lofty garnet]

anyone know if the 200 gem ( for twitter event) got mailed out already?
did I messed something up? I didn't get any gems

[wind hazel]

not yet

[ionic bramble]

if I were to make a vanguard fleet from this, who should I use?

[atomic abyss]

why are you even making a full IB frontline...

[ionic bramble]

um agir

[atomic abyss]

anyways, z46, z1 retro, z23 retro

[ionic bramble]

thanks

[eternal basalt]

End date: 20 August... so wait the full day.

[eternal basalt]

[lofty garnet]

8.19 23:59 go t me confused then xD

[eternal basalt]

It will send together with the milestones, so if you got those and not 200 gems, you can mention it in #tech-support

The listed mail is from the minigame (3rd of 4 milestones)

[wind hazel]

just give them some working day to process, really.

[prisma epoch]

Can anyone tell me how to buy the extra dock slots from my (not public) guild? I spent guild tokens and coins on what I thought was 14 dock slots but it just raised the level cap for the guild overall. So where do i go to actually get them? Thanks!

[wind hazel]

top right

[prisma epoch]

Where it says additional dock slots? It doesnt do anything when i tap it…

[atomic abyss]

guild level too low maybe

[wet prairie]

Bugged? (Bottom)

[jaunty vault]

town hall and town are seperate

[wet prairie]

damn

[eternal basalt]

Can you post a screen of what you see?

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[plain saffron]

chat is this true

[finite crag]

who

[shell willow]

am i stupid or they added claiming all like today?

[atomic abyss]

nagami please

they did add it today

[boreal wagon]

they did

[plain saffron]

yes

[shell willow]

🙏

[finite crag]

whose video is that i want to see it

[eternal basalt]

In the hotfix yes

[plain saffron]

kimocheese

[finite crag]

awesome

[plain saffron]

too late i opened a vid, can't copy link

[fervent hearth]

OMG KIMO CHEESE? THE BEST AZUR LANE YT

[crimson glacier]

no need to act stupid for the sake of it

[plain saffron]

is there daily thing in the town thing

[atomic abyss]

don't give me reasons to warn y'all for trolling

[plain saffron]

pls don't tell me i miss out 1 week worth of rewards

[tame jungle]

only daily thing is the minigame isn't it

[eternal basalt]

You missed 6 days of rewards if you build nothing

[shell willow]

i dont think theres any daily but you should be getting more passive stuff if you keep upgrading always

[plain saffron]

let me reword. can i do it in 1 day at last day?

[atomic abyss]

no

[eternal basalt]

It's an idler

[half plover]

would farming Visitors Dyed in Red (the zuikaku WA) or any other WA be worth for Sakura empire tech? it has like some elite rare and commons that I didn't mlb yet, also no zuikaku

[boreal wagon]

i believe its basically impossible even second to last day

[eternal basalt]

It has a lot of otherwise hard to get drops, so...

[atomic abyss]

i think you need at least 3 to even get the border

[half plover]

you can get 50% of the rewards in 5 days idling

[tame jungle]

there's quite the rampup on the idle currency required

[eternal basalt]

After 7 days oil goals are said to come

[plain saffron]

it's over

[tame jungle]

it's nagamover...

[half plover]

hard to get drops?

[atomic abyss]

hyuuga and ise

[whole crypt]

there's over a week to idle it still

[atomic abyss]

hiryuu and souryuu can also be farmed there iirc

[eternal basalt]

Mostly far stages and single-map, but they are several on one WA map

[proven parrot]

What would be a good fleet with Hakuryuu? Generally speaking?

Alsace Vanguard Hakuryuu
Noshiro muse Helena Brennus

Does that sound okay? Changing Saratoga to Hakuryuu, she is in the formation now

[half plover]

they aren't in the pool but I already mlb'd them

[proven parrot]

Boss fleet

[atomic abyss]

not a good fleet at all, seems like you just randomly mashed ships together

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ship_Drops#War_Archives

[proven parrot]

I was recommended to have that as a fleet

[whole crypt]

finally found out why I wasn't oneshotting solomon

[atomic abyss]

nosh mu is only for torp nuker fleets
vanguard is only great if she's buffing 2 other BBs

hakuryuu has a strong preference for shinano as a team mate

[whole crypt]

Vanguard is good even without 2 other BBs but a bit of context is needed

[half plover]

so visitors dyed seems like the best sakura empire WA so I will farm that. It would take forever to buy out the guild shop to mlb sakura empire ships otherwise

[proven parrot]

Okay, what would your fleet with Hakuryuu look like? And if it suits mob or boss fleet

[whole crypt]

she still has a base damage buff even if she's not buffing BBs extra

standard Hakuryuu template is Shinano/Hakuryuu/Implacable/(tank)/Kazagumo/Sirius

[proven parrot]

That’s what I have rn, which was recommended based on what I have and have lvld at the moment

[atomic abyss]

...is your haku even dev 30

[strong tartan]

He said Saratoga for a reason btw

[whole crypt]

I trust cheeky's recommendation based on whatever you had when that advice was given

[proven parrot]

No, I’m asking for the future

[atomic abyss]

[whole crypt]

that recommendation can change as your dock, level and dev improves

[atomic abyss]

by then, you will have WAY better options all round, so best to ask when you're actually able to use haku

[proven parrot]

Fair

[sharp socket]

do i go farm for haku fs5 or go to pr5

[atomic abyss]

do you have 1 tenrai from PR4 research?

[sharp socket]

i have 2

[atomic abyss]

i'd stay

[sharp socket]

if i go for haku fs5 i can maybe get a third since im 28/50

[lofty garnet]

not the best healer because she can be dead slow, but I like to put her in my 2nd fleet so she heal my main fleet in all their sorties,
and if you use bishamaru with the loadtime booster thingie you can even see her sending off planes during the sortie,
I like her but who am I to say anything I am not an expert shes a lot of work while you can get uni who is one of the best healers imo

[atomic abyss]

might as well farm for agir as well

[sharp socket]

i have everyone except haku maxed

and d29.9 haku also

[atomic abyss]

agir's eventual fs5 i mean

[sharp socket]

as in 506 prints

[finite crag]

you are not cooking with this one im afraid

[wind hazel]

he cooked

[whole crypt]

I don't think nagami was serious about it and we all know about what Perseus is good and really shit for

[finite crag]

inedible

[heavy zealot]

?

[strong tartan]

This is a sight to behold

[whole crypt]

I'm not sure why you chose to omit albacore

[lofty garnet]

please explain? like for a 5 year old

[wind hazel]

it's more funny to make fun of the german ship

[atomic abyss]

check the pins

[strong tartan]

Messerschmitt is so ass

[shell willow]

its so she doesnt take mvp, surely

[wind hazel]

it's bad. tl;dr: it is bad

[finite crag]

messershit is bad

so is the other one 😭

[tame jungle]

Both planes are bad

[elfin hollow]

i have to ask, why does daisen have 3x140% mg eff while flandre has 3x145 with preload? even alsace as a UR has only 3x145

[lofty garnet]

I was only looked for fast load times

[whole crypt]

I'll be honest, I have done this before, and she still MVP'd some fights because of preload

[strong tartan]

Yeah but like.. messyshit has no bombs

[tame jungle]

And albacore barely has torps

[wind hazel]

just slap this on her.

or hellcat/tigercat/pancake

[atomic abyss]

me155 still has ghost bombs btw...

[strong tartan]

Oh it does

[whole crypt]

this, as a matter of fact, is my current Perseus

[atomic abyss]

shit ones, but they exist

[wind hazel]

nnt is also a cooker

[whole crypt]

and yes I am doing it to avoid MVP

[strong tartan]

That's amazing

[whole crypt]

which turns out to be moot because then Volga steals all the MVPs anyway, it's never going to the leveling ships

[elfin hollow]

is it worth to +13 wyverns?

[whole crypt]

not really

[wind hazel]

not a priority, at least

[whole crypt]

I probably should just swap back to Illustrious and drop her augment

[elfin hollow]

also, for napoli, which +13 weapon is recommended first, the quad 152 or hindygun

[keen sable]

Move. Plymouth is big. See Haku, take haku.

[prisma epoch]

This is what i see in my guild…

[whole crypt]

just for the record I seriously don't recommend it, I just have different personal goals

[wind hazel]

you need more contribution points (i think?)

[atomic abyss]

barracudas don't have "bombs" obviously

[wind hazel]

how old is that ss

[atomic abyss]

as far as im aware, this only happens if the air strike launches without any form of bombs

[prisma epoch]

Oh i see, ‘buildable at 2700’ thanks

[atomic abyss]

so if say you use the me155 with saratoga, they don't appear

[patent pivot]

are you talking about stock bombs?

[atomic abyss]

yes, the stock/ghost bombs that are utterly meaningless in most cases

2x100lb +0 T3 for the gold me155

[whole crypt]

I might just have to make +0 albacores for Perseus to make sure she never MVPs

[atomic abyss]

Jan 2019

it's my own SS

[pearl quarry]

Is Suruga good

[atomic abyss]

no

[pearl quarry]

Aight

Lemme retire her

[atomic abyss]

[strong tartan]

Shes like 4 years old

[atomic abyss]

don't

[pearl quarry]

..... To late

[strong tartan]

[whole crypt]

10 medals is 10 medals, not like he'll have anything to do with her for a long while

she'll show up again at some point building heavy event banners

[cobalt rapids]

some ppl waited years for suruga

point is, dont retire hard to get ships

[whole crypt]

not like it matters if dude isn't a completionist though

[cobalt rapids]

well ig

[lofty garnet]

I also retired her long ago, when meta ships took a lot of dock space

[cobalt rapids]

but better safe than sorry

[whole crypt]

chances are he wasn't going to level her for the 1FP anyway

as it turns out 3-oil B2 is more efficient than 3-oil B1

[shell willow]

can u 3 oil B2? i tried and couldnt

[whole crypt]

it's not usually possible though, most events the boss fight fails

[shell willow]

UR gapped

[whole crypt]

even with that

and it's only 2.5pt/oil compared to 2.4pt/oil

[warm latch]

oath them both for the stat boost

[whole crypt]

you can't oath the CVL

[atomic abyss]

ranger only costs 2 oil below 30

[whole crypt]

34

[atomic abyss]

i stand corrected

[whole crypt]

and it's not only ranger, it's all common CVLs

apparently CN has been going for one of the common KMS DDs with mog gun more recently but they also have lv100 so their low costing isn't going with B1 or B2

[pearl quarry]

What should I pull at limited banner

Enterprise?

[warm latch]

dont do wishing well unless you have the ships you want from event banner

you probably shouldnt do either if you have less than 400 cubes

[fast plaza]

im constantly running out of coin because its the only viable resource for me to use on research projects, should i choose some of the free options instead ?

[slender heart]

You're not on chapter 12 yet?

[warm latch]

if youre able to farm 12-4 or event D3 you shouldnt be running out

[whole crypt]

you can run out of coins if you spend enough

[fast plaza]

im running out of oil doing d3 too

[whole crypt]

D3's efficiency is quite low

[warm latch]

you can also do rigging researches

[fast plaza]

and i took my time with campaign so im only on chap 9

[whole crypt]

wishing well isn't really recommended besides for patching up the last few ships for your collection, or maybe using light pool over the regular light pool for your daily builds, you don't really need most perm pool ships and it's not worth gaming your cubes

[worldly pewter]

spend wisely

[pearl quarry]

So what should I game it on

[warm latch]

event ships, or just save if you have less than 400

[whole crypt]

you save your cubes for UR, and maybe collab

[pearl quarry]

Event not worth it
Are u fuckinh kidding mr

[whole crypt]

not like you need event ships for the first 12 chapters

[late flame]

event ships are nice to get if you have more than 400 cubes on hand yes

[whole crypt]

if you like the ships you could do your daily 1 or 3 builds in event pool I guess? or if you really like the ships sure go ahead

[atomic abyss]

URs just more valuable

[whole crypt]

but in the long run the ships will come back and URs will be a bigger boon, and as such a bigger loss if you miss it from not having enough cubes

there's also probably collab in November, which can be a bigger cube sink and no expectation of rerun

[finite crag]

what collab

[whole crypt]

we don't know (yet), November is the usual collab event month but no announcements yet

we might find out in JP anniv stream

[finite crag]

right

[whole crypt]

in all seriousness, the event SRs are not bad
but you can do basically all of early through mid game with little to no gacha ships and definitely no need of new SRs
the issue if you go hard with SRs you will get gated by LBs with a lack of bulins and also higher coin cost, and partially LB'd ships are just 🚮 compared to MLB ones

[north gazelle]

I just stop research as I am not able to recuperate from coin loss

Or do the free ones

[untold crown]

From wishing well should I get Yat Sen and Kazagumo, or Tallinn and San Francisco? Oh and I somehow still don't have Taihou, so I'm considering her as well.

[whole crypt]

that only works if you're not tryharding, unfortunately I don't have that option

[civic crag]

Chat is it a skill issue if I can’t beat the last node of a stronghold in 1 try

[atomic abyss]

honestly? yes might be

[whole crypt]

and if you keep doing it you can be set pretty far back for research

[whole crypt]

that depends on what your current progression is

[civic crag]

Is a 2cv 1bb lineup better than 1cv 2 bb

[whole crypt]

depends

[north gazelle]

Tryharding?

[civic crag]

Nah I’m not a pro in any way I’m still at level 10 gear lololol

Does Perseus skill airstrike clear the screen

[whole crypt]

it still depends on your ship levels and the ships you're using, it's doable with +10 gear

[worldly pewter]

tryharding as in pitying all ur banners maybe

[whole crypt]

being a player that "tries hard" to push high end of gameplay

[north gazelle]

What's suggested then? What should I do as a new player?

[worldly pewter]

yeah or speedrunning

[whole crypt]

if you're a newer player then yes going with cheap/free researches is fine, up to the point when you can get good coin income to sustain it

[left cedar]

i would stop everything except my researchs when i'm with low amount of coins

[pearl quarry]

What's MLB and lb

[whole crypt]

(max) limit break

[civic crag]

Like all my ships are level 125

[north gazelle]

I am lb and retrofitting my ships which is costing a huge amount of credits.

[civic crag]

All MLB except agir

[whole crypt]

which ships though, like Perseus is bad for longer fights for example if your problem is the boss fight

[left cedar]

imo Researchs are a prio, cuz researchs gives u gud gears and some of the best ships in the game

[north gazelle]

Ok

[worldly pewter]

no researches aren't the priority

[civic crag]

My backline is NJ B2 Unicorn

[whole crypt]

well you shouldn't leave it on the backburner completely, but overinvesting in research in early game can impede your progression, don't know what point of the game he's in

[left cedar]

of curse, u can do cheap researchs as nntktt said, avoid G-XXX cuz they cost coins, and as begginer cube ones... but Es and Qs are still a thing

[whole crypt]

B2 wot

[north gazelle]

Biscuit2

[left cedar]

Ds that are a DR face are a huge thing as well, even if they cost coins

[civic crag]

Bismarck Zwei

[whole crypt]

oh BisZwei
then you might have a gear issue

[north gazelle]

I am on 9-1

[civic crag]

Do I make a thread

[north gazelle]

Developing my first fleet

[whole crypt]

coins won't really get much better before some 12-4 honestly

[worldly pewter]

how much is ur tuning ?

[left cedar]

9-1 with Bis2 and heaving problem to go through ?
yeah, seens like gears problems

[north gazelle]

No I don't have her

[whole crypt]

9-1 guy and stronghold guy are different guys

[left cedar]

ooops, sorry, still waking up

but are u struggling with 9-1 ?
iirc 9-1 its the map that force u to allways fight all enemies

[whole crypt]

go ahead

[worldly pewter]

9-1 is a nice stopping place TBH

[civic crag]

Ok wait hold on lemme try smt first

[whole crypt]

it's good in the sense you just unlocked oilcap which is a major step in grinding, but it's a long way from 12

[north gazelle]

No I am in 9-4 where the three revolving destroyers take too long to kill

[worldly pewter]

i asked u about the tuning
and was going to ask about do u check the armor type
but u don't want to use my help i guess . . .

[whole crypt]

if you can't 1 round a stronghold boss with NJ and BisZwei it's probably not an adapt issue

[left cedar]

imo 9-1 is way to low to be gud, and W10 is even worse since its the worse Oil:xp or Oil:coin ration iirc
W11 are the first gud stop place and between W9 and W11 are almost no difference in difficult

[north gazelle]

Ok

[worldly pewter]

adapt and knowing the armor type should solve the issue imo
if not then it should be a massive skill issue

[fast plaza]

is it ok if i dump all my oil into d3 and not do campaign at all?

[whole crypt]

some of us here do strongholds way before max tuning, and often even with penalty

[left cedar]

go for event, aim for 60k points with it u can buy every gud stuff from shop and get all gud rewards as well

[keen sable]

D3

[civic crag]

Wait how am I supposed to sustain my fleet if all heals are converted to damage

[whole crypt]

that's why you don't bring a healer to a boss fight, or you kill the boss before it kills you

[civic crag]

My bad I’ve already optimised the guns so idt that’s the issue, I just realised I brought unicorn to the fight

[worldly pewter]

unicorn in a boss fleet

[civic crag]

Bruh but like I only use one fleet per stronghold, cause it’s my only good fleet lol

[left cedar]

kinda, Op.Si mobbing its quite a joke, even strongholds, cuz i do with 3 CAs ... ok 1 is Hindy, but others 2 are FC and Kursk ...

[keen sable]

Skull issue is one fleeting

[late flame]

skull

[eager mulch]

skull

[whole crypt]

I kill the boss with my mob fleet so...

[atomic abyss]

opsi shd be minimum 2 fleets

for newer players, just use your boss fleet for stronghold bosses

[worldly pewter]

i mean not everyone can bring unicorn and kill the boss

u have the example right above u now

[atomic abyss]

sometimes uni fucks over the run for my mob team vs stronghold too

depends on the boss gimmick

[whole crypt]

I suspect the vanguard may have gearing issue though, he still has NJ and BisZwei with supposedly correct guns

[left cedar]

i dont have unicorn in none fleet, since i dont like lolis and i prefer Klaudia cuz of it, so even my fleet not having the best healer and being 3 CAs, if u do the fleets correctly u can do it

[whole crypt]

that or really just max tuning penalty

[worldly pewter]

at this point since everyone is talking from their own perspective
it is better to start a thread

[left cedar]

can be a mix of lacking a bunch of aspects
not bis gears
lacking adapt
no optimized fleets

[whole crypt]

I did say go ahead with the thread, it's much better to go through in detail what might have gone wrong

[left cedar]

cuz i bet all here have URs buffing, even my fleet being 3 CAs, i got a bunch of cross fleet buffs for my ships

[worldly pewter]

did u clear w15 without uni ?

[untold crown]

From wishing well should I get Yat Sen and Kazagumo, or Tallinn and San Francisco? Oh and I somehow still don't have Taihou, so I'm considering her as well.

[left cedar]

Klaudia all the way for me

[worldly pewter]

did u use the cheat code ?

[whole crypt]

you can do 15 without Unicorn though

[atomic abyss]

check the pinned message for recommends

[whole crypt]

it's just easier with her

[left cedar]

Klaudia is near the same dmg as the time go
the difference between them is the amount of heal, Klaudia do less heal per Airstrike, but higher dmg per airstrike, the difference its Unicorn start with preload

[worldly pewter]

btw i meant by the cheat code musasi + aquila

[whole crypt]

as it turns out, the third ship is usually Unicorn

[untold crown]

I did but I still have hard time choosing. I have no idea which are better for W13+

[civic crag]

Yea after I lost the first match due to unicorn the tolls of war shit is really fucking my ass

[atomic abyss]

well then the next question is, what do you have

[whole crypt]

basically none of them

[worldly pewter]

why not clear it and go again ?

also if u remove uni from the fleet the toll will go away

[civic crag]

I don’t have enough AP for a regroup and rest

[worldly pewter]

[wicked elm]

someone with a good heart that would help me with fleet formations?

[worldly pewter]

never use ap for that

[left cedar]

if its a Stronghold u can leave and back to same point

[north gazelle]

You can retreat and repair your fleets in a port

[keen sable]

Fleet order is free

[worldly pewter]

just use the port and hit a c1 ship

[civic crag]

I can???

[north gazelle]

Yes

[civic crag]

Like the progress won’t reset? Tf I didn’t know that

[left cedar]

u can leave strongholds same as Arbiter

u cannot leave Harbiter and Abyss

[civic crag]

Holy fuck I’m gonna start tweaking you could leave strongholds this whole time

[whole crypt]

abyssal and hidden zones are lost if you leave
normal arbiter and strongholds are not reset
hard arbiter will be reset

[civic crag]

OMG

[atomic abyss]

post your dock in a thread, we'll give recommends

[civic crag]

Ok thanks everyone I’m gonna go reflect on my actions

[atomic abyss]

post your dock in a thread, we'll give recommends

[uneven badger]

how to reset bulin level to 0

[atomic abyss]

you can't, you can just use them

[wicked elm]

ty :3

[whole crypt]

there's no level 0, but there's also a toggle button to show >lv1 ships when picking bulins

[late flame]

however make sure your bulin isnt in a fleet, used in commission, or locked*

[uneven badger]

nahh it's UR bulin

[whole crypt]

doesn't matter

[uneven badger]

there must be a way

[whole crypt]

a way to what? you don't need the bulin to be level 1

it doesn't matter what bulin or dupe ship you use for the LB it doesn't need to be lv1

[uneven badger]

bc i cant limitbreak with level 2 bulin

[civic crag]

Which page on the wiki gives damage calcs

[wicked elm]

someone with a good heart that would

[untold crown]

When it comes to decent tanks I only have Aegir, but I'm researching Anchorage right now. Kazagumo could help my Shinano I guess?

[whole crypt]

there's also a toggle button to show >lv1 ships when picking bulins

[uneven badger]

[left cedar]

imagine read

[untold crown]

I will try to find my gallery

[left cedar]

people ignoring Port cuz blue

[left cedar]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Damage_Types

[plain saffron]

how to get guild exp

is it same amount as guild funds we get?

[left cedar]

about Kaza help Shin, yeah, she helps buffing with ARA but also help Shin with her requisition of more IJN Ships

[keen sable]

Read wiki

[left cedar]

Naga is pratically the wiki

[uneven badger]

where is next event

[left cedar]

he can be dumb some times ?
sure
but he is one of the contributors that make Wiki

[plain saffron]

i read, can't find anything

[left cedar]

mid sept or late mid sept

not 100% sure about
but around 1-3 points per contribution

[whole crypt]

get hassat to fix nagami up

[keen sable]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Guild#Activity exp is activity yeah?

[left cedar]

Blind Nagami
or EN

[plain saffron]

i barely touch wiki nowadays

[plain saffron]

so same as guild contribution

[civic crag]

Thank uuuu

[plain saffron]

let me reword, which of this 2 is exp the guild get

[civic crag]

Wait so does FP affect damage?

[left cedar]

if the ship have guns, yeah
same goes to planes, AVI affect it

[civic crag]

Ohhhhh I always thought it was just a for show stat

[left cedar]

AA is the black ship of the family, cuz even the ships that dont have AA they have AA stats cuz all ships need AA stats

[civic crag]

Because everyone was saying purple gun> yellow gun even though yellow gun has higher FP

[plain saffron]

even one ship without AA gun, AA stats do something

[left cedar]

or planes will be just a huge problem to ship without AA

[plain saffron]

because FP is not the only thing that make dmg for guns

[patent pivot]

fp stat is a factor, not the only thing that matters

[left cedar]

modfiers and gun pattern do a big play here

[civic crag]

So is 25 damage on a gun better than 25 FP

[plain saffron]

what's the point of having slightly more FP if the dmg itself is shit

[civic crag]

Like a gun with 100x3 and 45 FP or 125x3 and 20FP

[plain saffron]

25 gets multiplied with FP stats, efficiency etc. FP is well FP stats

[civic crag]

Ohhhhhh

That makes so much sense now ok thanks so damage> FP?

[left cedar]

not always, as i say a bit above, gun pattern and modfiers do a big play here

[keen sable]

Guild fund is guild fund. Contribution is your activity. Token is your token. Contribution affects tech also

[left cedar]

EX: Tri 155 its a shit gun cuz the pattern is shitty, and even being less FP stats and worse per bullet dmg Twin 150 do a better job in VG Ships

[civic crag]

Modifiers like from the aux or the gun itself

[left cedar]

modfiers that every gun have

[civic crag]

Ohhhh yeah ok but I’m mostly interested in BB guns like what makes a good BB main gun

[left cedar]

its just a example of how pattern do a big play ...

[plain saffron]

so exp doesn't really shown to us in popup

[left cedar]

if u wanna a example for BBs, compare Tri 406 Bl1 have almost same dmg as Mk6 but its shitty cuz the modfiers are 70/100/90

in a comparison Mk6 its 140/110/90

[civic crag]

Like against different armor types?

[left cedar]

L/M/H

[civic crag]

Interesting I gotta look that up thanks a lot

[haughty dust]

What’s the best character to put this gun on? I just crafted it a second ago.

[keen sable]

Exp is contribution/activity? Or is exp something else? Sometimes it requires relog. Like contribution from dailies.

[plain saffron]

also prob need to mentioned that activity also give guild exp

[left cedar]

Prio to ur best BBs/BCs
CVLs are the 2nd that wanna it

in a really minor prefference TRP Focused ships

[haughty dust]

ok

[plain saffron]

yeah because everytime someone does anything related to guild, server need to broadcast new info to every online member. and i assume it doesn't always work

anyway i trust you that exp is same value as individual activeness point they get

wait how do you see guild exp

[low agate]

what weapons does laffey II want i forgot i havent played in so long

[whole crypt]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/dd?ship=laffey_ii

[cobalt rapids]

mogadoro gun rated lower than 100kai

[civic crag]

Are harbiters more difficult than final bosses of strongholds in general

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[keen sable]

I don't know. There's no way to see total guild contributions for all time from all members that I can see. Tech wouldn't receive contribution if it was maxed for example

[civic crag]

Ok but like they won’t have any anti heal modifiers right

[left cedar]

even Abyss is way more diffcult if u compare to Strongholds

[shell willow]

even normal arbiters have been harder for me than stronghold bosses

[left cedar]

idr about antiheal, but they do more dmg ... and have less time to beat

[civic crag]

What lineup y’all use for harbiters

[cobalt rapids]

it doesnt rly matter since u shouldnt be bringing unicorn against harbi

[civic crag]

Huh why

[cobalt rapids]

because u want dmg

[shell willow]

arbiter is just 1 boss fight

[civic crag]

Oh so like I should bring enterprise instead

[keen sable]

You should have boss fleets...

[left cedar]

generally i use my fleet aound my FdG, but i do that cuz i love her, not cuz she is the best for it

[low agate]

is rikka, yuudachi, laffey II a decent vanguard or should i replace one of them with yume in order to get the mech fusion with chise rikka yume?

[left cedar]

FdG/Vang/Bis2
Agir/Helena/Emden

[soft raft]

What context is this for
And tbh the funny Mecha combination is cool and all, but rikka who was the best out of the Gridman collab has kinda fallen off anyways

[low agate]

mob fleet

[soft raft]

But where
Like W13? W14? OpSi?

[icy cave]

Will Uvh rerun again? I rlly like her design

[low agate]

W13

[cobalt rapids]

no, next time she goes in perma

[low agate]

because i feel like when i use gridman units i have to force the mecha comp or its perfectly fine to use rikka by herself?

[soft raft]

She already reran
Pending war archive possibly sometime next year

[civic crag]

Is B2 a strict upgrade to normal Bismarck

[soft raft]

The mech isn't needed to make her good

[icy cave]

Ahhh damn, im too late

[cobalt rapids]

||fdg got buffed this patch afterall||

[soft raft]

BZ isn't the mid ahh faction buffer that OG Biz is
They're quite different ignoring the rarity diff

[civic crag]

I’ll take that as a yes

[civic crag]

Like by themselves

[frank pulsar]

dmg, spread, modifiers and rld

[low agate]

chise is also worth using if i dont have other good CVs?

kinda low on CV options atm

[soft raft]

depends on who you have

[cobalt rapids]

bismarck zwei is one of the top BBs
bismarck einz is a below average gold

[civic crag]

Ok noted

[low agate]

i have unicorn,enty,rodney,chise, thats about it mainly i wouldnt say im a veteran of the game considering i took a rlly long break

enty cant be used since this fleet is for mobbing tho

[soft raft]

Ignoring that you misidentified a BB as a CV, Do you not have like Saratoga or Independence?

[keen sable]

Chise is fine but what does this mean? You have 2 better carriers in boss and enty is just spare parts?

[low agate]

no rodney isnt built yet atm and unicorn is in my mobbing fleet

[soft raft]

Rodney is not a Carrier

[low agate]

wait fuck im drunk i meant someone else 😭

[soft raft]

Also regular Rodney is mid af
Her META variant is decent but not worth prioritizing

[low agate]

think it was saratoga?

[civic crag]

How long does it take for the fleet deployment command to go to 0 AP

[soft raft]

Like 24 hours I think

[civic crag]

Does the AP go back to 0 every time you change port

Ok. Also is there a community vanguard DPS chart

[soft raft]

Then get her raised
And you can safely ignore chise

[low agate]

should i get roon n, illustrious or royal fortune which one in the core shop?

[atomic abyss]

none of them
get 3 pairs of shells first, then independence

[keen sable]

cn has one

[low agate]

i see thx

[civic crag]

Can I has a link

[left cedar]

its hard to understood if cant read CN, and its pretty much a BiS gears only ... Hindy with 2 UR Guns its a gud difference between 1 UR and 1 Gold ...
Ply without Quad is also quite bad if compared to with Quad ...

[wary timber]

whats a good gun for Pittsburgh to use

[stoic tulip]

Are wishing well characters all in the permanent pool?

[viscid swift]

yes

[stoic tulip]

So no need to splurge, right?

[wary timber]

.... ok best non rainbow gun.

[atomic abyss]

same as any CA

choose based on enemy armour

[stoic tulip]

How do we determine that? Just the boss of the fleet?

[atomic abyss]

if boss, then yes, choose based on boss armour
if mob, depends on where

[wary timber]

also. should i make a firecrest to prepare for a wyvern(i dont have enough for my 2nd wyvern yet) or should i bolster up my fighters and make a Flapjack or a Tigercat for Implacable to use

[worldly pewter]

only u know

[atomic abyss]

I would craft it when I actually can craft the wyvern

[wary timber]

or 3rd option. save mats to actually be able to build the wyvern in one go

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[wary timber]

welp shes gonna stick to the VF-17 squadron then

[echo adder]

When will NJ swimsuit skin come back

[atomic abyss]

We don't know

"Eventually"

[echo adder]

Nah u tweaking

[atomic abyss]

We literally don't know

[echo adder]

🥺

[atomic abyss]

They have rerun past skins on Black Friday

But we don't know which will

[rose cosmos]

Is perseval worth it?

Or tech point and bail

[atomic abyss]

Extremely worth for CV fleets
Only replaced by Implacable in her niche

[low agate]

is constellation worth raising

[half river]

Clearing mode ensures the oil cap if it’s available regardless of if I manual/auto correct?

[atomic abyss]

She's very good
If you lack UR BBs she's worth considering
Same with Indiana

[low agate]

i see thx im so out of touch as to whats good or not lmao

[wary timber]

where would Indiana be in the tier list

[atomic abyss]

T0 for sure

Same with Stella and Owari

[low agate]

laffey II is meant to be vanguard with her evasion and dmg mitation skills right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[low agate]

what affects xp gained by ship again? flagship,MVP, is there anything else?

[atomic abyss]

The map itself
Morale if above 119

[wary timber]

huh. never expected a ship with only 2 skills to be placed there

[atomic abyss]

Meanwhile Enterprise with 1:

[wary timber]

what i meant was BB lol

[dense eagle]

how much comfort can u get in ur dorm without spending gems? im currently at 443

[atomic abyss]

Constellation as well

[atomic abyss]

500+ iirc

[uncut phoenix]

idk why there is thill moral in the game it's fell old and not usefull

[atomic abyss]

High morale gives you exp bonus

[dense eagle]

Bruh how do U get it though, I bought all the furniture that still gives me comfort (that doesn't cost gems)

[atomic abyss]

Low morale is basically a stamina mechanic
So you don't get burnt out
... Just grind opsi once morale runs out lol

[atomic abyss]

The short is, play for a very very very long time

In any case, you don't get additional exp bonus at that point

[dense eagle]

I've been playing for like 3-4 years though

[atomic abyss]

Your exp bonus stops around 82%

[dense eagle]

Oh I'm p sure mine is like 81% so I guess that's fine

So it doesn't really matter I guess

[shell willow]

~460-470 max is more accurate for f2p, 500+ is definitely p2w

[frank pulsar]

i cant read

[jaunty vault]

EN be like

[cobalt rapids]

understandable

[half plover]

for boss fleet early game flagship is nelson retro and west virginia retro on the same level?

assuming indiana is the mob fleet BB

and no other good bbs

[cobalt rapids]

nelson is better

[half plover]

ty

[atomic abyss]

nelson better cos of CL secondaries yeah

and also, potential 100% proc rate

[whole crypt]

except you're not actually winning anything because you don't actually get any more XP

the breakpoint for 83% is 489 is reachable F2P and the next breakpoint is currently unattainable

[shell willow]

i didnt pay much attention to xp, so probably

[vale kite]

Help with fleet (beginner)

[shell willow]

do you know theoritical max with gem furniture included?

[whole crypt]

CN's current maximum is 511, might be lower in other regions by a wee bit, I'm at 502 but I'm missing some from earlier collabs

to hit 84% you need 525 comfort

[shell willow]

[wet badge]

Yo should i max level nj shes 5 star (i could get her to mlb tmrw but ill save the bulins for later) or 120 strasbourg as shes alr lvl 118

[forest palm]

literally fighting over crumbs, that's why I say past 400 comfort you should stop caring

[atomic abyss]

limit break NJ with dupes

not sure how strasbourg is relevant here

[wet badge]

Nj is still 107

Should i use the t2 exp thingies to get her to a higher level

[atomic abyss]

no, just grind ships naturally

[wet badge]

Ok

[hollow quiver]

Is this fleet strong enough to carry me to chap 10 with 1 fleet (me only at chap 6 in campaign rn)

[atomic abyss]

yes, though i would swap NJ out

[hollow quiver]

Ok

[left cedar]

Nj without MLB is more a slowdown than a help
consider swap her for other ship with MLB

[atomic abyss]

also, limit break your helena

[hollow quiver]

I try to save material for san diego

[left cedar]

Main ships lose ALOT without MLB, cuz they lack potential dmg cuz less MGM or Numbers of Planes

[atomic abyss]

helena uses purple bulins, san diego uses gold bulins, so it doesn't matter

also, you should not be raising san diego at this point of time anyways

[hollow quiver]

Ok

[left cedar]

do not focus on Retro Sandy, mostly cuz its really expenssive and u need use Specialized core, wut isnt recommended for new players cuz UR ships have ALOT MORE POTENTIAL than Sandy kai

[hollow quiver]

If I swap NJ out who should I replace with

[left cedar]

wut u have ?

[atomic abyss]

well we'd need to see what you have

[hollow quiver]

I don't have many BB or CV

[cobalt rapids]

use saratoga

[atomic abyss]

saratoga

[hollow quiver]

Do I have to limit break her

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[atomic abyss]

you limit break all ships you use

[cobalt rapids]

u must max limit break all ships u use if u want em to perform and not be deadweights

[hollow quiver]

Should I replace Portland refroit with Jean d arc

[viscid swift]

no

[warm latch]

you need to use portland for a while for rookie missions

id also stop using shinano

[eternal moth]

JdA is squishy AF, she just makes everyone else tankier anyway

[warm latch]

dont use UR ships if you cant limit break them

[hollow quiver]

How many gold blue print to fully refroit saratoga

[eternal moth]

You don't need any to limit break. You mean to retrofit?

[hollow quiver]

Yeah refroit

[eternal moth]

Looks like 10 gold BP and one purple bulin

[shadow yarrow]

For ex boss is cv or bb more damaging to it

[hollow quiver]

Does the amount blueprint drop from hard mode increase in each map or it just 2 for every hard mode stage

[soft raft]

we have no clue about the retro BP Drop rates but higher world = more core data per run with a max of 30 at W13

[hollow quiver]

I don't talk about drop rate I mean the amount of blueprint drop

[soft raft]

i dont think anyone's really ran the numbers on that specifically
nor are there people who want to

but from what i can recall, there's no real increase

[slender forge]

How do you even get t2 exp books?

[atomic abyss]

usually, paid cruise pass, but they gave them out this time

[soft raft]

mainly the 💳
And there was like one instance where we got like 20 of them for free

but you'll live with the T1s
If people could live without XP packs at all, you can live just fine with the T1s

[slender forge]

Oh I didn't even notice they gave them out

Yeah I've just been grinding out the t1s

[jaunty glade]

At what stage do I start caring about a second fleet / submarines?

[eternal moth]

Chapter 10+

[viscid swift]

well currently you can play the mini game on the 6th Anni website to get 50 of them

[jaunty glade]

kk so I can clear ch 9 with one fleet?

[whole crypt]

hmm single 113 or 🌈 🦆 for Eldridge retrofit

[eternal moth]

🌈 🦆 , she has pretty strong cannons

[whole crypt]

yeh the retrofit strengthened her guns quite a bit, was just thinking because the last time you'd ever use Eldridge she was still barrage spamming with 76

[atomic abyss]

almost certainly 100 kai

[atomic abyss]

yes

[whole crypt]

not sure why the react Ender, pre-retrofit Eldridge has a 115% gun with like 80FP

[vast sparrow]

???

[vast sparrow]

I was playing al for hours then this happens

[atomic abyss]

Why here

[vast sparrow]

Idk where to put it

[atomic abyss]

#1020044605053476994 perhaps?

[soft raft]

[summer basin]

Mayhaps you should spend less time playing AL and refer to the pinned guideline rules. This is also the second time you run to gph for a discord issue. Please refrain from doing so or you will end up with 2 different channel bans. Thank you.

[cobalt rapids]

just because a ship has bad guns doesnt mean she defaults to 76
she must have a good enough barrage/aoa so that the tradeoff is good

[atomic abyss]

her barrage was never good to begin with

it isn't

it just looked pretty

[crimson glacier]

yeah its shit dmg

[atomic abyss]

shit damage and also because half of it wouldn't even hit anything

[crimson glacier]

just looks fancy then you notice it just tickles things

[whole crypt]

I was under the impression you wanted to spam her barrage, but the last time Eldridge was used outside of Helena META cope was year1 PvP

[south sequoia]

If ship has shit fp good aoa
76
If ship has shit fp shit aoa
Use whatever available good dd gun and pray that there will be a difference

Shrimple

[sweet delta]

If the aoa is based on fp, then high or low fp doesn't matter

[pulsar hornet]

Do you have to logout to update the morale or did they fixed that issue? Haven't checked in a while

[whole crypt]

morale should update by itself but game is wonky sometimes

so consider your game having a good day if you didn't need to relog for it

[sweet delta]

Morale updates except when it doesn't. Usually happens if you had bad connection or sleep at one time

[keen sable]

Instructions clear. Gave ayanami moggun.

[keen owl]

How do you get 500 comfort?

[atomic abyss]

💳

[forest palm]

you bust out your wallet

[whole crypt]

by buying gem furniture

[keen owl]

Not round number makes my OCD activate

[keen sable]

Whole bunch of +5 on sale right now. I'm tempted.

[glacial widget]

i mean shit how did you get to 495 for free?

[forest palm]

here's something worse for your OCD, you're going to gain nothing from hitting 500

[whole crypt]

what do you do if the available pieces make you 501

[soft raft]

that's 419 not 495
419 sounds pretty resonable for F2P

[pulsar hornet]

Wait, do gem furniture add +1 or +2 regardless of how much you already have?

[keen owl]

I gain peace of mind, which is very important

[atomic abyss]

there's a cap

[whole crypt]

they add +1 or +2 depending on what they're displacing

[glacial widget]

no i know, im at 419, im asking how they got to 495 f2p

[whole crypt]

I've had a lot of +0 gem furniture

[keen owl]

Then its not F2P

Fee 2 play i guess

[atomic abyss]

[keen owl]

Flay 2 pay

[whole crypt]

you can hit 490-ish F2P I think, but you need a lot of furniture that may not be available now

[atomic abyss]

we had a discussion about this earlier yeah

[whole crypt]

I'm fairly sure I was clear of 489 before I started buying gem furniture

[keen owl]

AFK dorm experience is not that much? anyways.

[forest palm]

I'm at 474, and don't believe I've missed any furniture

[whole crypt]

the XP adds up but you're not going to get more XP from your dorm between 490 comfort and 510 comfort

[glacial widget]

hm, idk what im missing for 489, a 70 point discrepency seems huge but i thought i had all the furniture possible

[keen owl]

Freemium Premium Furniture you missed

[forest palm]

nope

[whole crypt]

you don't believe you missed doesn't mean you didn't actually miss so

[forest palm]

only furniture I wouldn't have access to was the Utaware set

[whole crypt]

419 is 80% so you're not really missing much

it'll add up over years I guess but

[glacial widget]

just to be clear, when i hit "buy all" and it says "+0", theres no point buying that furniture right?

[whole crypt]

in terms of comfort no
in terms of collection why not, you'll have too many furniture coins anyway

[forest palm]

same with you using the phrasing "fairly sure"

[keen sable]

take oil from food. Increase commander level. Profit from more dorm xp

[whole crypt]

well it could have been utaware

but I definitely didn't buy gem furniture until the last year or so

[keen owl]

I missed Neptunia Dorm

[glacial widget]

nevermind, i just found a +7 lmao, i need to go back through the entire catalogue

[keen owl]

Gib me Nekone or Fumirul

[forest palm]

as it stands I only believe 474 ~ 475 is the most an F2P can reach before geming, until substantial evidence is provided

[keen owl]

U need the Furnitures with high comfort value

[whole crypt]

the easier way to would be to just buy everything and you'll eventually find a set that adds something, you have enough coins there to buy like 40 sets anyway

[keen owl]

Set the sort to comfort and you can which Furniture adds to total comfort

By window shopping youncan see which will add to total comfort

[whole crypt]

if you play for long enough you don't run out of furniture coins, why bother sorting

he literally has 68k

[keen owl]

Not all can be tokened

[keen sable]

I thought cheeky said amagi players still don't have enough tokens for everything

[whole crypt]

I'm not recommending any gem furniture

[keen owl]

Some are limited specially The Collabs

I usually buy those stuff cause it may never get rerun

[whole crypt]

you only buy a gem furniture because you like the cosmetic or the interactions in dorm, whaling for furniture is just cursed

[low juniper]

What are the SR and UR gear upgrade parts used for?

[sweet delta]

Enhance gear

[keen owl]

Have gems use gems

[low juniper]

But like which gear

[whole crypt]

you mean the plates with like a swirling gear thing, they're needed to enhance gear to +13

[glacial widget]

I got up to 441 after exhausting the premade sets, now looking at individual furniture sorted by comfort, but none of the +4's give me anything?

[whole crypt]

any gear, only for the step from 12 to 13

[keen owl]

Isnt the parts used for making gears at Lab

[soft raft]

he's talking about upgrade parts not blueprints

[low juniper]

Is it specifically for the final upgrade cause 10 to 11 takes the normal gold parts

[whole crypt]

that's only for purple gear which you shouldn't enhance to 11

[keen sable]

Purple 10 to 11 more expensive

[keen owl]

Like this one?

[low juniper]

Yes

[undone plover]

is there an easy way to tell which furniture set is from which event?
wiki does not list it and it is not very clear if u use the search function

[low juniper]

That's for 12 to 13?

[whole crypt]

yes

[soft raft]

yes
tho dunno why that specific one says it's for UR rarity or below when it's mainly been UR gear only from what I can remember

[whole crypt]

for gold gear

[low juniper]

I see

[whole crypt]

purple gear that's T3 can also be enhanced to +11 and will cost the gold plate, but it's not worth it

[keen owl]

Im too lazy to do OpSi. They should add it in events rewards.

[whole crypt]

that's a you problem

[keen owl]

Well thats helpful

[whole crypt]

#game-feedback is that way if you think that's a valid request

[sweet delta]

As if your blogging is helpful

[atomic abyss]

...wait, michta's skills are all red?

[keen owl]

RIP red books

[atomic abyss]

there goes 15 red books indeed

[low juniper]

Who

[whole crypt]

Wichita META

[atomic abyss]

wichita meta

[soft raft]

Witchita META

[whole crypt]

at least it's just 15 red T3s, imagine if it wasn't a META

[atomic abyss]

purples exist

[keen owl]

Is Witchita META's performance very good?

[atomic abyss]

3rd highest in terms of frontline damage if you can proc her HP thresholds

[whole crypt]

using only purple takes way too long

[sweet delta]

372 T1 red books

According to magic, it's now first highest, but they wrote literally nothing about how much HP she has

[atomic abyss]

sasuga CN?

[sweet delta]

According to my 20 second test, she does beat Mogador easily though

including the laser in 20s

[left cedar]

i really doubt she beat Hindy and Unze
if we put all VGs i doubt she beat Ply as well

[atomic abyss]

if she beats mog, she beats ply lol

[whole crypt]

it doesn't work either way, if you get her low really quickly she can't sustain the DPS
if she gets low late you're not getting the full punch

[atomic abyss]

at full?

[sweet delta]

i even gave full HP ply and mog an advantage by starting with Wichita at half HP

[keen owl]

Wichita seems like a lot work to use her potential. Not afk material.

[atomic abyss]

she's still probably gonna outperform most ships anyways

[jaunty vault]

i dont have her

[sage sluice]

We got a meta ship thats actually good? what is this sorcery

[keen owl]

Whos the top 1 and 2 DPS Vanguard?

[atomic abyss]

unzen and hinden

[jaunty vault]

[atomic abyss]

...the thing is all of the gold metas are good
just not "the best"

[whole crypt]

dalao brought Eldridge to showdown

[sage sluice]

Maybe i should have said, we got a META that can be used in the meta lol

[whole crypt]

let me test this shit

[atomic abyss]

well jinM is pvp + torp nuke meta

bearnM seems to be really good for farming - she has staggered first airstrike like indep/impero/aqui

[keen owl]

Is pikachu eldridge kai more on defensive side VG?

[willow dock]

I thought unzen was mid in comparison to other Frontline URs?
And by mid I mean not best

[atomic abyss]

no lol

[jaunty vault]

you thought wrong

[whole crypt]

Bearn META's timing is great for quick mobbing and stagger

[eager mulch]

is Eldridge kai obtainable rn

[atomic abyss]

i'd go as far as to argue that unzen is outright better than hindy

[jaunty vault]

are you a dalao

[whole crypt]

EN needs another 14 hours or so

[atomic abyss]

CN/JP have her already iirc?

[frank pulsar]

one of the best vanguard dps we have rn

[eager mulch]

no im turtle (cooper)

[pliant plover]

Ender, before ==== is the test when it was bugged, past it is todays post patch test, seen to be working now but it's likely a chance something like 8~10% chance to double affinity gain from one battle

[atomic abyss]

[pliant plover]

scuffed rng affinity gain

[atomic abyss]

btw, how many of y'all actually use triple CV for opsi mob

cos i remember some people saying they did

[novel condor]

U use em ender?

[wind hazel]

i dont

[sweet delta]

I used to use triple cv(l)

But then I took one too many cross fleets to the knee

[atomic abyss]

what was it suchi

chise indep uni?

[frank pulsar]

i used to, but it was kinda rng whether or not i could one fleet a stronghold so i just decided to slot in a ur bb since theres plenty of them

[whole crypt]

I use Unicorn/Aquila/Bearn META

[sweet delta]

Most cvers go with Db aquila, unicorn, and any semi preloader

[atomic abyss]

gdi where's my aquila archive

[sweet delta]

Chise works

[atomic abyss]

i'll use impero and bearnM
i don't think i ever upgraded my chise's skills

[whole crypt]

[atomic abyss]

um, at the risking of sounding dumb, what did this prove

[sweet delta]

Nntktt is not a dalao

[cobalt rapids]

are u running 2 bb in mob rn or u gave up some ?

[whole crypt]

I obviously am not

[sweet delta]

Also skill level 1

[forest palm]

does triple CV mob clear abyssal

[atomic abyss]

i mean i could use my uvh, she is at 120... but 0lb so uh

[whole crypt]

I don't expect the retrofit skill to add much damage though?

vanguard did survive till the end, besides mogs

[atomic abyss]

oh? jda alternative?

[forest palm]

fairly expensive alternative if that's the case

[atomic abyss]

perhaps we were meant to use eld kai with wichM 🧠

[whole crypt]

better actually, rainbow plan invul is immune to chains

[forest palm]

no FdG?

[atomic abyss]

i edit my statement

perhaps we were meant to use eld kai with wichM/mog

[atomic abyss]

i mean im trying to swap off her

[forest palm]

[whole crypt]

mogs survived till the end lmao

[forest palm]

I just use 2x BB for my mob

[atomic abyss]

is nntktt a dalao now?

[sweet delta]

No

[whole crypt]

way to make a new comp to use for like 10 more days

[atomic abyss]

inb4 next boss is eld friendly

[shell willow]

what color was eldridge new skill again

[whole crypt]

3rd assist was 1.29M without Helena yeh I'm digging this

[left cedar]

isnt nntk a JP guy ?

[jaunty vault]

i am antartican

[whole crypt]

I'm just a JP player that shamelessly copies CN dalao homework

[atomic abyss]

how was marco's x fleet again?

[forest palm]

trash is about right

[wary timber]

Ignore the VF-17 Corsiars. Are my torp bomber loadouts good enough or should i swap something else out for Saiuns

[sweet delta]

Use whatever you want

[atomic abyss]

as with any triple CV comp, what you use depends on what you're syncing with, and what they have

[wary timber]

Believe it or not. I'm not doing a CV sync

[vestal carbon]

how to increase frontier town to lvl 4 ?

[atomic abyss]

...then what are you gonna use her for?

[cursive lark]

Use your vacation logs

[vestal carbon]

oh okay thanks

[wary timber]

I'm only using her for event mission

But in the background I'm trying to sync Implacable with Howe

[soft raft]

[atomic abyss]

then it doesn't matter

[soft raft]

for what content are these shenanagins for?

[atomic abyss]

d3 i assume

[shell willow]

@whole crypt ohh and can you confirm if her invul skill got changed to not start on cooldown or it didnt? because i heard both

[soft raft]

no I'm saying as in the syncing Implac with Howe part

[cursive lark]

How do I get eld retro item?

[soft raft]

timegated
gotta wait untill tomorrow

[atomic abyss]

do the mini event
last part is out tomorrow

[tame jungle]

Provided you’ve been doing the missions

[cursive lark]

Huh is there an advanced server or smth?

[atomic abyss]

cn and jp are ahead yes

[cursive lark]

How can they have eld retro

[soft raft]

JP daily reset is earlier than ours

[atomic abyss]

...by about half a day

[whole crypt]

dalao's post mentioned something about the CD changing, you might want to check with the dataminers to be sure

[cursive lark]

[atomic abyss]

JP is ahead by 16h, CN by 15h

[shell willow]

hmm

[boreal wagon]

as far as i can still it should still start off cooldown post retro

but that should be relatively easy to verify we just dont have her in EN yet

[sweet delta]

Wdym "still"

[boreal wagon]

in reference to that

aka they havent changed it

[sweet delta]

What

[whole crypt]

well wording sounded like some internal CD on entry, I have no idea what the numbers are anyway

[boreal wagon]

it doesnt start on cooldown just like it has been on day 1

[sweet delta]

It "no longer" starts on cooldown

[whole crypt]

https://imgur.com/a/zuhDGeZ gear for reference, max tech

[boreal wagon]

we mean the same thing i just suck at english

[cobalt rapids]

kear gun kear

[sweet delta]

Changed in retrofit , nothing changed today

[whole crypt]

don't ask me, I just copy homework
not the first time dalaos used kearsarge gun on showdown comps

[cobalt rapids]

why mark 35 on eldridge aswell

[frank pulsar]

then that works

[cobalt rapids]

and twin 57 and - goldburn
smh my head

[whole crypt]

don't ask me, I just copy homework

[frank pulsar]

this might be the first time ive seen kear gun being used

[whole crypt]

could probably change torps and AA gun but likely won't make much difference
Plymouth's goldburn can probably swap for something else if you only have one, she survived all 3 fights for me with a fair bit of HP left
Mogs will probably lose a bit of damage if you don't have goldburn for her

the biggest damage disparity is likely going to be mog's survival time

[cobalt rapids]

why is moggy tanking anyway

[whole crypt]

shrug, one of the earlier CN comps using her also had her tank

I'm guessing she might add to less damage lost compared to losing Plymouth because Plymouth also has buff for Kearsarge

[cobalt rapids]

ig ply needs to survive longer to debuff for 3rd kear salvo since thats the same timing as a 4 strike on mk7
idk

[whole crypt]

and if Eldridge drops too early then you don't get rainbows anymore

it's a bit RNG but mogs gets damage cap while lunging so

[atomic abyss]

now that i think about it

[cobalt rapids]

i ran ply tank and moggy off and didnt rly have issues but thats only for normal 3 strike timings

[atomic abyss]

wouldn't eld theoretically be mog's best friend anyways

[whole crypt]

well I'm out of assists but I could try more tomorrow, but honestly it's literally just 1 more week before 70k

[atomic abyss]

since she can allow her to evade damage entirely while lunging - repeatedly too

[cobalt rapids]

i mean while lunging shes capped eitherway
and syncing that is at the mercy of 🎲

[whole crypt]

wait for next showdown

[cobalt rapids]

i mean shes not a tank but she doesnt have surv issues anymore to the degree of needed additional support

[crimson glacier]

malin is garbage so

[atomic abyss]

yes, quite significantly

l'auda is strong

[warm condor]

What time is reset?

[soft raft]

Honestly don't bother with Starsbourgh if you have Hood

[sweet delta]

In 12 hours

[soft raft]

12 hours from now

[warm condor]

Oh okay, thought it was in 4 mins lol

[wispy pendant]

what happens at reset?

[sweet delta]

You can also go look at HQ in game

[warm condor]

I was rushing hard mode haha

[crimson glacier]

what do you mean

[sweet delta]

Any airstrike or main gun shelling will

[atomic abyss]

^

[wispy pendant]

is eldridge good? what's a good description of her use now?

[atomic abyss]

you can't, there's a cooldown

[crimson glacier]

any good backline will do

[sweet delta]

Use champ or UvH then

[atomic abyss]

it's only use is the slow though, damage is sleep

[crimson glacier]

you have 3 backline ships

[soft raft]

This just sounds like goofy minmaxxing that isn't worth it

Keep in mind that you're willingly turning half of your fleet into a faction fleet for Stras's 100% barrage proc rate as well meanwhile Hood only needs her unique aug for it

[sweet delta]

Damage is good

[small linden]

Does Indiana want flag spot?

[atomic abyss]

indiana can be run off flag

might as well use alsace then

[sweet delta]

It's as strong as if her entire AoA hit one enemy

[atomic abyss]

getting her skill to proc once more per battle with strasbourg's preload isn't worth the loss of damage from the REST of your comp from faction fleeting

[small linden]

Thank you. I wasn't sure where to put Indiana. Just leveling girls up as I farm D3 for points.

[sweet delta]

If you wanted to boost Eldridge own damage, then Richelieu would be better even if her reload is 20s

[crimson glacier]

does the barrage not start on cooldown

[sweet delta]

If D3 is easy then you can put whichever ship you want more exp for as flagship

[atomic abyss]

then it doesn't matter lol

if it's not challenging content, it simply doesn't matter what you use - most comps work

the point was moreso, the gains you get from using stras over hood isn't worth the effort of potentially messing up the rest of your comp

[spring scarab]

Can anyone help which rainbow gear should I craft these are the material which i collected so,pls help me

[sweet delta]

Wyvern and I recommend not enhancing gear to +11 willy nilly

[atomic abyss]

a second wyvern

[spring scarab]

Ok then can i craft these too ?

[undone plover]

dont craft too many
i think 2 is enough

[spring scarab]

Yep I was actually planning to craft 2 of them

After crafting second wyvern then can i craft UR main gun or anti air gun ??

[soft raft]

there are like 3 UR Main guns in gear lab, which one are you talking about

[keen owl]

Does Halford's Seaplane intercept?

[spring scarab]

Like which can be used for almost all the content in the game like dailies and operation Siren and all

[spring scarab]

Sry I don't know which is useful one from the 3 😅

[forest palm]

there's many different triple 406s

[soft raft]

Twin 457 is mostly a mobbing gun, relatively low prio (most people make like 2)
Triple 234 is mainly anti-heavy/lazy option for CAs, low prio
Triple 406 Mk 7 is a straight upgrade to 406 Mk6 but low prio
IJN Twin 100mm Kai is one of the best DD guns out there

[undone plover]

Mk7 and twin100 share the UR designs and mk7 is higher prio

457 and 234 share a resource and 1 457 is prio (get the second one from protocore)

[spring scarab]

So,these two guns are mostly used in all the content of the game right??