gameplay-help

[cursive lark]

I limit broken my hipper muse being so overjoyed I can finally start fdg, only for it not to add any tech

[half plover]

yeah same haha, I even grinded some exp for felix schultz

[crimson grove]

[keen sable]

Read map

[crimson grove]

i havent cleared d3 yet

[stark quiver]

challenge mode is harder but gives more points for leaderboard grinders

[half plover]

but I constantly switch the ship development for the exp grind so my levels are all over the place there too. but doesn't hurt bc of blueprints anyway

[crimson grove]

I just want the cogs

[ionic bramble]

do people manipulate mvp to level up a specific ship or just leave her there and eventually grinding up

[cursive lark]

Wait does that mean ex is ez this time?

[vernal edge]

goodluck forcing MVP unto some normal shitter

[crimson grove]

^

[keen sable]

It's been easy for awhile?

[cursive lark]

Since no aux makes it easier?

[half plover]

I think it is worth to use a leveling fleet for opsi clearing at reset, right? if it is a lot of exp just for clearing easy content first

[plain saffron]

only 2 EX have this mechanics so far

[half plover]

my indep went from lvl 120 to lvl 123 just from opsi

[cursive lark]

Worth but I risk sinking during stronghold and abyssal clears

[half plover]

almost 124

[ionic bramble]

ok so that's a relief. I have been farming 12-4 for a week and my unicorn and sandy keep getting mvp, thanks.

[half plover]

yeah I mean everything but abyssals / strongholds

[cursive lark]

I think slapping 120s that is worth 125 ing is the safe and probably laziest way

[half plover]

maybe I can even slot in a healing BB instead of Uni

[half plover]

yeah I use 4/5 lvl 125 ships in my opsi mob fleet

[crimson grove]

there's healing BBs?

[cursive lark]

Is your unicorn and sandy maz level yet?

[fluid brook]

Yes, Arizona for example

[half plover]

which is a huge waste of exp prob

[cursive lark]

Arizona

[ionic bramble]

unicorn yes, sandy is 120 sitting at 600k

[wide kestrel]

Doesnt she have to die to do healing tho

[cursive lark]

You can try level another ship in lieu of unicorn

[fluid brook]

No, she needs to fire her main guns and proc the healing of vanguards

[cursive lark]

Cause I level lvl 105 shiters in 12-4, prob you can

[half plover]

having an akashi for opsi crossfleet setup is probably a huge w for opsi level fleet clearinng

[ionic bramble]

I just failed when I try to replace unicorn with anyone

[keen sable]

the meta way to heal in ops is to use L1 shitter with pearl

[half plover]

akashi heals crossfleet, right?

[cursive lark]

Interesting, 1 ship pearl and 5 ships full dmg

[fluid brook]

No, it gives Emergency Repairs, and heals if you got the equip but if its in the same fleet

[cursive lark]

Cruel but interesting

[half plover]

oh same fleet

so when my arizona is lvl 120 I might use akashi lmao

[fluid brook]

Akashi gives two type of healing, the normal healing that gives the crane, which is for the same fleet shes in. And Emergency Repairs, which can be used for any fleets.

[half plover]

ty

[cursive lark]

Well then don't I guess, but there might be a point your gear become better, you will be able to use all 6 slots for levelling when the time come

[cobalt rapids]

only in opsi and only on explorable clear

[vernal edge]

It is 2 week long event, right?

[fluid brook]

which skill its?

[keen sable]

Make your ships better or drop down to 12-1. And don't one fleet.

[plain saffron]

back in my day

[cobalt rapids]

idr and it doesnt rly state that in her skills
its prob the one that gives emergency repair boxes since that dont work in opsi

[smoky palm]

which should I upgrade?..

[cursive lark]

Press talents and you'll see the options

[keen sable]

Looks like a reset

[cursive lark]

Aren't those the best for subs though?

[smoky palm]

wdym?.. its for my wolf pack subs..

[ionic bramble]

will do that, I completely forgot about the second fleet 💀, thanks

[cursive lark]

It doesn't make sense for a cv cat to have that

[jaunty glade]

Should I use xp packs to get a person to level 100 to do lvl 50 comissions (requires a level 100)? specifically someone not in my fleet

[smoky palm]

its not a cv cat tho?..

I just wanted to know what talent to put a point into..

[cursive lark]

That's why it wouldn't make sense if a CV cat were to have that

Press use talent points and you'll see the options

Iirc

[smoky palm]

oh, Im a dummy

[cursive lark]

Kgv gun?

Isn't it like trash?

[ivory harbor]

is unzen better for mob or boss

[cursive lark]

I was gonna say no preference?

[tame jungle]

kgv is 356, that's prob richelieu gun. both are equally ass

[keen sable]

Ib isn't good for ib subs though

[smoky palm]

you sure?.. it doesnt say it doesnt affect subs tho..

[keen sable]

If you only have 1 L100 ship you shouldn't waste xp packs on ships you don't plan on using

[wide kestrel]

Any idea what to change? Haven't played in over two years so my gear is very limited

I vaguely remembered this blue gun is good on Shimakaze and Ayanami

But idk

[jaunty glade]

I have my entire fleet at 120-105, but specifically for comissions here do I bring someone else for comissions (thinking Saratoga as she will probably be used on my second fleet when im there)?

[keen sable]

Actual sub talents are far better

[viscid swift]

trash, and higher spread isn't a benefit

[fluid brook]

I will change the Quint Torp, for Quad Homing Torps, and change the two Auxes for Toolkits

[wide kestrel]

Ah good to know this still exists

[smoky palm]

Well its not like I can whip a perfect sub cat out of my but, like it could be a alot worse for a wolf pack cat

[keen sable]

If you started with flame then you should reset. If you didn't then the entire cat is copium because it needs to be reset but you will lose flame.

[smoky palm]

I dont remember what it started with? is there a way to find out?..

[cursive lark]

I don't think you started with flameOh wow I was wrong

[keen sable]

Reset but don't ok it

[stark quiver]

i mean if its wolfpack its not that bricked

[cursive lark]

You'd want rld for sub right?

[stark quiver]

so so
it kinda depends, youll want one cat for torp and one cat for rld

[smoky palm]

I have this cat too btw

which ones better?..

[snow fractal]

Hope thus helps

[stark quiver]

is sub acc for a cat bad

[smoky palm]

pretty sure

[stark quiver]

well thats not good.....

[keen sable]

Imo flame and keep resetting for wolf. You do realize that reset cats are good cats?

I don't think i would ever bother resetting the no flame one.

[stark quiver]

I got these two ss cats reset or no

[smoky palm]

this one starts with wolf and flame tho..

[frank pulsar]

swap out the auxes for toolbox + 550 hp aux, and swap out torp for better torp (whats best depend on whether you manual or not)

[keen sable]

That's not wolf

[smoky palm]

ive literally never seen wolf once

can any cat get it? it says unique talent

[keen sable]

This is sadly wolf

[smoky palm]

anyone here a meowficcer expert and wanna help me clear up my cats in a vc?..

[stark quiver]

so very gud cat is flame + special talent + skills that match cat?

[ionic bramble]

which shell is better for fdg?

[keen sable]

White for blind ships

[ionic bramble]

I'm sorry but what's blind ships?

[stark quiver]

White shell is standard for most ships

[keen sable]

Fdg has trouble hitting anything hence she's called blind

[frank pulsar]

wasnt fdg a ship with good crit?

[ionic bramble]

oh I see, thanks.

[frank pulsar]

every other salvo she gets a crit rate and dmg boost how is it bad crit

[smoky palm]

@keen sable so this ones I should keep and reset?

[vale spindle]

Low luck meh accuracy

[frank pulsar]

acc affects crit?

[vale spindle]

yes it does

[frank pulsar]

the extra crit rate boost doesnt offset that?

[vale spindle]

it kinda does but also consider you do 0 damage if enemy dodges you

[smoky palm]

cuz this is the other one I have

[frank pulsar]

so its not bad crit then

[keen sable]

Every other Salvo is bad crit

[crimson glacier]

1 out of 3 sounds kinda misleading

[vale spindle]

Go to the damage calc wiki page and math it yourself

[frank pulsar]

can i just take this to be 1.2
im not sure what the symbol on the left means i shouldve paid attention in class

[vale spindle]

Yesnt, devs can also be random with it

Then all pr ships start at 0 but go to 15 for pr and 25 for dr

[keen sable]

All research muse stuck at 0

[vale spindle]

That means sum

[cobalt rapids]

thats Sum
basicly add up all critrate buffs

[frank pulsar]

so just 1.2 then

[cobalt rapids]

huh whats 1.2

[frank pulsar]

20% crit rate buff is 1.2 isnt it

[cobalt rapids]

0.2
1 = 100% critrate

[frank pulsar]

oh okay i read it wrong mb

[vale spindle]

im dum

[frank pulsar]

odd salvo = 12% crit rate
even salvo = 32% crit rate
this is against 75 eva and 30 lck

[vale spindle]

compare it to nj

[unborn owl]

any suggerst french vanguard?

[hollow gust]

for what

[unborn owl]

that

[keen sable]

• jda I guess

[vale spindle]

Go to a fleet tech tracker site and pick the ones that give dd fp or cl fp

[hollow gust]

Brest Jeanne Mogador

[unborn owl]

does muse ship counted? cuz of them already reach max out

[vale spindle]

Or cl eva or ca eva
Or rainbow ships

[unborn owl]

here goes my oil. but okay

[vale spindle]

Counts for exp but they don't have fleet tech

[unborn owl]

then who has the fleet tech?

[hollow gust]

considering you are farming w12+ or event it should be capped

[vale spindle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/tools go to the fleet tech tracker listed here and filter by French ships and fp / eva

[viscid swift]

When we say tech we mean stat bonuses at level 120

[frank pulsar]

13%
i calced both fdg and nj using hsfcr and white shell

fdg does indeed have good crit

[vale spindle]

More like everyone has bad crit

Again it's the blindness that matters more

[frank pulsar]

are you referring to her barrages when you talk about her blindness

her accuracy is not that much lower

[vale spindle]

If enemy evades ur stuff that matters more than critting

[cobalt rapids]

what are u guys debating

[frank pulsar]

whether or not fdg has good or bad crit
but sam keep talking about blindness and now im confused

[vale spindle]

crit is bad but it's bad for everyone

[cobalt rapids]

white shell and hpfcr goes to most ships regardless unless the enemy has really bad eva in which case no1 is blind

[unborn owl]

i hate requirement

[atomic abyss]

And this is why it's a smart idea to just use do PR grinding with a single fleet

[vale spindle]

you use white shell cause getting acc stat good but it honestly doesn't matter which shell you pick since the difference is small in either direction

[frank pulsar]

what even is considered blind anyway? even if the lck gap is larger, lck has lesser impact on the acc formula doesnt it

[cobalt rapids]

luck has lesser impact than hit yes

[whole crypt]

FdG blind meme is because of her low acc, compounded by 0 luck

[frank pulsar]

fdg has 77% hit rate
nj has 83% hit rate
its really not that big of a difference, nj is only 7% more accurate than fdg

[whole crypt]

this was pre-FS and also no table

[frank pulsar]

i calc using hsfcr + white shell against 75 eva and 30 lck

[whole crypt]

it adds up in across boss fights when FdG is already the worse performer against bosses

[keen sable]

Lol that's not 7%

[frank pulsar]

you do the calc with the same assumptions then

[keen sable]

Ahh NM with rounded numbers 7.78 so you can have it

[frank pulsar]

i may have misread the formula

[whole crypt]

it's 7.78% ish, 83/77

[frank pulsar]

okay thats actually mb i forgot to round off the decimals, its 8%

still not that big of a difference

[whole crypt]

it is when you count it across 4 salvos

[jaunty glade]

I have my entire fleet at 120-105, but specifically for commissions here do I bring someone else to level 100 (thinking Saratoga as she will probably be used on my second fleet when im there)? Requirement for Commander lvl 50 comissions is to have someone lvl 100

[whole crypt]

all chip comms require a lv100+ ship

the chance of hitting all 4 salvos on NJ is 47.5%, for FdG it's 35.2%

[frank pulsar]

okay i can see where youre coming from now, i didnt consider that

[whole crypt]

suddenly it's not 7 or 7.78% is it

[frank pulsar]

34% diff now

[whole crypt]

maff hard

[frank pulsar]

i have a math exam this wed, i hope this isnt a bad omen

[whole crypt]

I just never thought I'd pick up probability again because gachas

[steady beacon]

Discretisation of damage

[frank pulsar]

at least now i know why hit is so valuable now

[shell willow]

are you sure thats how math works

[idle perch]

Is there anyway to get the 6 anni portrait and chat?

[cobalt rapids]

[frank pulsar]

?

nj is 34% more accurate than fdg in 4 salvo scenario

[cobalt rapids]

thats not how it works

[whole crypt]

it's more of a phrasing thing

NJ's has a 34% higher chance than FdG of hitting all 4 salvos

[frank pulsar]

0.47/0.35 x 100 is the difference in accuracy between the two of them no?

[shell willow]

8% hitrate diff is 8% hitrate diff accross however many salvos

[idle perch]

^^^

[cobalt rapids]

play juju wrangler

[idle perch]

🫡

[steady beacon]

If you phrase it that way, then no

[frank pulsar]

whats wrong with how i calced that

[idle perch]

U will get both?

[whole crypt]

it's not how you calc, it's how you define what that chance is

[steady beacon]

The calculation is not incorrect, but the interpretation is, somewhat

[whole crypt]

NJ is 34% more likely to land all 4 salvos != NJ is 34% more accurate

[frank pulsar]

ah

[fervent hearth]

My brain hurts wut

[idle perch]

Ngl im using iphone 12s and i can barely tell it is a

[steady beacon]

It's just about precision in formulating the statements
Probability is finicky like that

[whole crypt]

once the phrasing is different you could be describing an entirely different set of probabilities

[frank pulsar]

im not that good with phrasing...

[cobalt rapids]

sorry, its a yes

[whole crypt]

as long as that math paper you're doing isn't a statistics paper you're fine you're probably fine

[steady beacon]

[crimson glacier]

what stuff are you using to get to 34%

how much tech, gold or rainbow fcr, shells?

[shell willow]

this

[whole crypt]

well the numbers delulu used is FdG 77% and NJ 83%

[frank pulsar]

0 tech, +13 hsfcr and +13 white shell and sword and staag

[whole crypt]

I have no idea the details of what's used behind those accuracies

[shell willow]

oh u meant gear stuff

[frank pulsar]

i calced against 75 eva and 30 lck since that seems to be the standard for meta rn

[crimson glacier]

staag?

[sweet delta]

Are you using a quad gun and only counting one salvo?

[crimson glacier]

how about with 28 hit tech and rainbow radar

[sweet delta]

One volley I mean

[frank pulsar]

...i completely forgot each salvo has 3 volleys

actual probability of landing everything shld be much lower then

[sweet delta]

Nntktt forgot

[frank pulsar]

this is why i hate math

[frank pulsar]

for both? and how many salvo

[sweet delta]

But thinking about maximum and only caring about the chance of 100% hits is useless anyways

[crimson glacier]

both would use the same gears

in a real battle

[whole crypt]

I didn't, I just omitted it for simplicity's sake and also if you go that far you'll start talking about geometrically missing and what not including NJ's spread reduction

[sweet delta]

What matters for 99.9999% of player situation is expected results which is just 83/77

[frank pulsar]

gimme a sec, i need to grab gaming table stats from wiki cuz mine isnt +13 yet

[whole crypt]

the idea is just letting delulu know it's not as simple as 83/77 across an entire fight

[cobalt rapids]

it is as simple as that

[whole crypt]

it is, and it isn't

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[ionic bramble]

is this still about fdg

[whole crypt]

well it's not super relevant unless you're really short on rainbow BBs

FdG better for mob NJ better for boss if just among those 2

[forest palm]

funny enough NJ contextually is better as an ops mobber

and if you ask why it's cause of all the single targets you need to smash

[crimson glacier]

imo opsi jsut doesnt have strong enough opponents for that to hold fdg back at all

[frank pulsar]

nj has 68% chance to land one volley, fdg has ~57% chance to land one volley

[forest palm]

FdG does heavily fall off the more shiny toys you have

[frank pulsar]

i realised halfway through my calc that one volley has 3 shells

[crimson glacier]

i dont think fdg falls any harder than basically every ship that isnt the absolute peak

[ionic bramble]

so she's great but she will gradually lose value the more I play?

[forest palm]

essentially

[cursive lark]

Basically every ship

[crimson glacier]

yes, but she is still amazing and one of the best mobbing ships till w15

but in w15 i really wouldnt want to use her

definitely the cheapest of the amazing mobbing ships since others are like musashi and alsace

[frank pulsar]

kinda, but dont worry too much about it
the differences between the ur bbs arent really important unless youre trying to clear harder content, especially so if youre a newbie since fdg is easily accessible

[crimson glacier]

but if you just want absolute brute force then nothing compares to musashi unicorn aquila backline imo

[forest palm]

Musashi isn't that far down the pipeline in terms of rerun

[ionic bramble]

I have no plan to push any further than w13 atm so
I just start playing during alvitr banner, I didnt have a chance to roll for those two.

[crimson glacier]

musashi rerun will be early 2025 the latest id imagine

fair chance its on this years side too but idk

[ionic bramble]

oh absolutely, I see her as a great investment to my account. I will eventually get better ships and replace her at the end but I can see myself using her for a while

[frank pulsar]

i used her for a good ~6 months i think? shes worth it

[ionic bramble]

after 2 months of coining her that is

[crimson glacier]

sadly new players will never know the true glory of fdg

[forest palm]

you mean how blind she was?

[crimson glacier]

i mean how broken she was for 2019 standards

you really dont like fdg huh taz

[forest palm]

I don't like her cause she's essentially DR GA, both have a terrible Hit track record, and you had to pile a shit ton of Hit to make either work, which I didn't mind FdG after Fate Sim

[tulip dawn]

Taz let’s not pretend FdG wasnt top of the food chain for years when she released, she was pretty much the biggest jump in the power ceiling the game ever saw.

[ionic bramble]

oh I have lil question, should I save FDG catchup for proto core and just coin her till she's FS5?

[crimson glacier]

save it for proto if you have the patience to do so

[forest palm]

I kind of find it ok to use DR catch up, and just burn PR catch, but that's me

[keen sable]

Makes sense

[ionic bramble]

I'm gonna do that to every single PR/DR that I can coin then

thanks everyone

[crimson glacier]

is there more than 3 coinable DRs

[forest palm]

don't think so

[ionic bramble]

its just drake fdg and azuma I think

[crimson glacier]

okay

[forest palm]

would be crazy if Haku, or even Agir were

[tulip dawn]

When was Drake made coinable btw

[crimson glacier]

too late

aka i have no idea

[ionic bramble]

idk but I remember someone said DR coining was available for PR3

[tulip dawn]

I’m just wondering if there’s some sort of schedule they make DRs coinable cause similarly I have no idea

[forest palm]

there's like 4 people in this chat that would keep track of that obscure information

[frank pulsar]

like jan i think...? im not sure

[forest palm]

I vaguely remember things surrounding DRs being inconsistent in terms of pattern, but it's been awhile since a looked at that stuff

[ionic bramble]

do Odin or Halford have any use case? I was told to do Haku/Agir but I don't have fleet tech for Haku and no ready ship for Agir atm so I need to find something to do during this time

[little tree]

Can you start agir ?

[ionic bramble]

I can

[little tree]

Do that

[forest palm]

Odin is a versatile mobbing BC if you need one, Halford we aren't sure because she's so new

[little tree]

Complete her research then max her later it can take time

That way you can keep the pr dr train moving

[ionic bramble]

oh true thanks

[tulip dawn]

imo Halford has been somewhat of a disappointment

Pretty much a heavy skewed DDG but you know, missing a gun mount

[ionic bramble]

yeah her simulation doesnt help selling her at all too

[crimson glacier]

did you get her to 30 already

[tulip dawn]

All my pr7s are d30

[crimson glacier]

simulations are useless memes

[ionic bramble]

atleast the Nakhimov one kinda makes me regret not having any russian main fleets

[tulip dawn]

compared to Bayard who’s cracked, Halford is a bit disappointing

[crimson glacier]

i dont think its clear if she even wants russian team mates

[tulip dawn]

Soyuz + Nahkimov is a good pair, but otherwise she doesn’t really need the extra russian slow

[forest palm]

is Bayard still that good

[tulip dawn]

Without it she’s essentially haku with an ark Royal slow attached which is already extremely good

[tulip dawn]

She’s pretty awesome

[amber wharf]

Hey bro Prinz Aldebert Or Frederich Carl Who Better?

[pliant acorn]

Hello, when is the AL JP anniv?

[ionic bramble]

idk I see La-9 I like her

[tulip dawn]

Carl

[ionic bramble]

Next month iirc

[tulip dawn]

Mid September

[pliant acorn]

Finally decent answer, thanks lad!

[crimson glacier]

i literally answered you before

[amber wharf]

Really? I'm reascerh brest do I need to change to bayard?

[forest palm]

lol, no

[crimson glacier]

well thats completely different season

[forest palm]

you'll get more use out of Brest

[whole crypt]

CN's DPS table has Bayard third after Plymouth and Harbin

[sweet delta]

How about halford

[whole crypt]

very far down

[forest palm]

unsurprising

[tulip dawn]

I honestly think Bayard does more than harbin but harbin having preload gives her a head start I guess

[forest palm]

oh, right how is Indiana looking in terms of SSR BBs

[whole crypt]

Harbin's damage is skewed towards torps, so there's that, and also counts on using mog gun which you only have one copy of if you choose to give it to another ship

[sweet delta]

It's single target damage

[whole crypt]

and yeh it's a ST DPS chart

[tulip dawn]

In terms of SSR BBs she’s pretty up there imo, but it’s SSR BBs

[sweet delta]

people have 5 plyguns to go around

[tulip dawn]

Makes more sense then

[whole crypt]

I'll need to ask Shimanto to give hers up

[tulip dawn]

mog gun was a mistake

[forest palm]

I want them to shift the standard SSR BB to around Owari, so if Indiana is that's good

[tulip dawn]

I think Owari is still better but Indiana is no alvitr that’s for sure

[forest palm]

I am also curious if the standard of SSR BB are rising, and it looks to be, and should be

[crimson glacier]

what does alvitr mean

[tulip dawn]

Owari, Constellation, and those two collab BBs Fubuki and Tamaki are golden standard for SSR BB/BCs now

And daisen I suppose (still raising her)

[ionic bramble]

kms bb? (oh its bc)

[crimson glacier]

i know

[tulip dawn]

Some new German BC who has multiple chance based barrages in the year 2024

[crimson glacier]

i see

i havent really paid attention to SSR BBs in a while

[whole crypt]

I paid Alvitr as much attention as I paid Strasbourg, which is get them to 120 and throw them back to bench duty

[sweet delta]

I paid [every new gold BB] as much attention as I paid Strasbourg, which is get them to 120 and throw them back to bench duty

[whole crypt]

Indiana is probably getting the same treatment because SR BBs

[tulip dawn]

Dunno why they made Indiana have like the worst fleet tech too

[whole crypt]

you sound like it actually matters what tech they give at this point

[crimson glacier]

doesnt she have fp

[tulip dawn]

Indiana gives AA iirc

[crimson glacier]

lmao

[whole crypt]

I'll just throw her in anyway so that the main fleet isn't 3 capped ships

[forest palm]

I'm just leveling her cause she's a SoDak

[whole crypt]

Pittsburgh is my pick this event because VA

[tulip dawn]

also currently Indiana is bugged, her enhanced s1 barrage procs on 3 stacks instead of 4 atm

[crimson glacier]

whats with her class being bugged all the time

[tulip dawn]

Yeah, remember Alabama 100% barrage proc? Those were the days

[crimson glacier]

yep 🙂

[tulip dawn]

should’ve kept it

[crimson glacier]

gigachad lucky A lvl 1 100% proc rate

[forest palm]

Yongshi leaving bugs in the game, never...

[lone knoll]

Would you say fargo is better than javeliln retrofit? Thank you

[sweet delta]

Is that confirmed by code?

[tulip dawn]

Just observation from using her, her skill says it needs 4 stacks but it procs if all 3 shells from triple guns hit

Here’s a recording of it

[crimson glacier]

wtf, were these always in the game

[sweet delta]

so indeed the debuff stacks up to 4 times but the followup only needs 3

[whole crypt]

eh did they change the BB reticule, I haven't manualed for a while

[crimson glacier]

yeah i havent either but it looks too weird

id want to believe that id remember that

[whole crypt]

pretty sure reticule basically blacked out your whole screen except for a small circle or something, which was why I kind of practiced pre-positioning and just tapping to fire

[sweet delta]

[crimson glacier]

?

those are what we are talking about

[whole crypt]

I said used to, if this was a recent change I haven't manually aimed BBs since the change

[crimson glacier]

like were they always part of the game

[mystic topaz]

Does dock space expansion ever go on sale?

[forest palm]

no, it doesn't, and after a certain point, that I doubt you'd reach, the cost increases

[wispy pendant]

Immersion

[eternal basalt]

At 2000

[whole crypt]

give it another couple years when we have enough unique ships they'll probably raise the max cap and the amount of dock space before cost increases

[tired stream]

couple of questions regarding using up BP selectors.

1. I need 78 BPs in total to finish up FS5 for PR6 and I have 369 PR6 BP selectors. Should I use them up to complete them or just wait to hit naturally? This question also applies to PR5 but the BPs to completion is closer to 300.
2. Should I use BPs early to finish up PR7 ships that I want first so that I can get them out of rotation (and subsequently Dev 30 them) and hopefully(?) hit more DR prints?

[whole crypt]

1. yes unless you're seriously coping for more proto cores, coining isn't coming soon enough and you should have moved your focus to 7 already
2. yes

[tired stream]

7.6k proto core with all UR prints bought and no need for any research weapons

[whole crypt]

yeh then there's basically no reason to keep selectors than just finishing up the ships

[crisp estuary]

[mystic topaz]

Hmm, how many dock spaces should i get as a new player?

[tired stream]

do /gems in #bot-spam for f2p amounts

[soft raft]

After you get 3rd dorm slot and 2nd floor of dorm, all in on dock space and nothing else

[keen sable]

As many as possible

[tired stream]

For me, my whale moment was opening up 6 slots of dorm and its helped my farming fatigue so much.

[ionic bramble]

6 in total 6 or 6 slots for each

[forest palm]

in terms of QoL that 6th dorm slot is so good

not F2P friendly, but ya

[tame jungle]

6 in total is perfectly fine
12 in total is

[atomic abyss]

yeah if you whale it's a decent investment

just... expensive

i use 6 slots myself

[ionic bramble]

yeah 1200 seems... excessive

[atomic abyss]

it is

[bold salmon]

ye a l2d skin

[atomic abyss]

at that point just buy a skin yes

[ionic bramble]

now thats a good investment

[forest palm]

if you're a farmer the 6th slot is a god send

a heavy* farmer

[tired stream]

excessive whaling gets 4th slot academy, cat slots (lazy), gear slots (lazy)
excluding skins/rings

[forest palm]

4th Academy is useless if I'm being honest

[atomic abyss]

it is VERY useless

[ionic bramble]

it will be when there's nothing to use it for

[tame jungle]

It’s hardly sustainable

[atomic abyss]

as a whale, it is one of the worst things i've bought with gems

the main issue is that yeah, you WILL run out of books if you constantly keep all 4 slots running

[eternal basalt]

Training was bought when those fast train programs were active

[atomic abyss]

unless you're willing to like, come online every 2h to use a t1 book

[forest palm]

the sustainability is awful, and the number of ships you would skill decreases overtime, 4th slot just expedites that process, at most the 3rd slot is all you'd really want

[atomic abyss]

and buy books with coins on the regular

[ionic bramble]

I have 3 and sometimes I just regret buying it

[atomic abyss]

3 is still sustainable

[eternal basalt]

I regret 4, never the intention, but they don't refund

[forest palm]

skill issue la

[remote yarrow]

I also regret 4th slot

[keen sable]

Oh haha i get it now

[eternal basalt]

Train 10x every day and it;s just that one misclick

[ionic bramble]

I wanna whale for stuff but I don't see a reason for anything.. except skin

[atomic abyss]

[remote yarrow]

Cuz there isnt,the game gives you enough cubes so you dont need to whale for pulls like in other games

[atomic abyss]

personally i feel another option for whale is to increase your food bar or whatever it's called, if you went and got the 6 slots

[remote yarrow]

Whales just buy skins, rings and dock as needed

[atomic abyss]

cos if you got 6 slots, the 40k lasts you like 10h

or was it 8

[ionic bramble]

wait isn't 40k default

[eternal basalt]

Eh, xp is good enough as is, it doesn't give you coggies

[atomic abyss]

40k is the default

[cobalt rapids]

some whales buy cogs and oil but that talk is forbidden here

[remote yarrow]

[warm latch]

60k is like 13 hours, and i think i stopped there because it gets more expensive after that

[keen sable]

I think max dorm is cheaper than flipping burgers

[ionic bramble]

~~I buy 1200 oil daily ~~

[keen sable]

just claim you like the cruise pass skin for oil

[atomic abyss]

well if you're more hardcore, yeah oil and cog is a... probably a valid vhoice

60k is 13h yes

or well, almost 14

[eternal basalt]

If you buy cogs, do it during an event

[ionic bramble]

wouldnt it be the same if I play the whole day, the food bar thing

[keen sable]

Imagine bothering to feed your ships. Half the time it's all capped ships on 1st anyway

[ionic bramble]

I'm filling it up every hour

[eternal basalt]

It's all the new ships, getting to level 100

[forest palm]

just keep pushing every ship in doc to level 100

[eternal basalt]

Min 105 now (bar techless, and the new)

[mystic topaz]

I did get all 6 slots and 2nd floor as recommended, i also got the 3rd academy training slot.

I hope i never have to be you (I'll just burn all my gems as a fail-safe probably)

I think i won't regret the 3rd, i see it as an opportunity cost to catch up closer to you all, since i joined many years after the OG players

[eternal basalt]

Just use the leftmost slot EXCLUSIVELY to fast train and you'll be fine

[ionic bramble]

what does this mean, please enlighten me

[keen sable]

You get enough books to level over 6 ships a month to L100 instantaneously. They don't even release six ships a month anymore.

[ionic bramble]

how usable is haku if no shinano?

[cobalt rapids]

very

[eternal basalt]

Shinano is easily farmable during non-UR events like this

[atomic abyss]

very very

[cobalt rapids]

just make sure shes above d25-d30+ depending on ur dock

[atomic abyss]

there are haku comps that don't even use nano

[ionic bramble]

I doubt I have those comps

I will get shinano from pity soon anyway so eh I was worried for nothing

[rose cosmos]

How long until we get the selector?

[eternal basalt]

Do note next event wont count for shinano

[cobalt rapids]

u might shinano from pity but who knows when u get a mlb shinano

[ionic bramble]

2 days

[eternal basalt]

Wednesday

[keen sable]

When you tap the 4th slot accidentally the ok button is right where the third slot is

[soft raft]

Should be like 2 days or so if you've been logging in consistently since the start of the event

[sturdy badger]

Which one should I prio?

[rose cosmos]

Btw is mainz still viable nowadays? She looks sooo good

[eternal basalt]

Was Mainz ever viable?

[ocean zenith]

how do i leave the map if its surrounded by these tiles, is my OS bricked till reset?

[soft raft]

She's been pretty powercrept, but tbh she's never really been a priority

[soft raft]

Have you tried the big fat EXIT button

[ionic bramble]

im blind mb

[ocean zenith]

same

[rose cosmos]

I did her because I want tech point

[soft raft]

Have you done FdG, all of PR4, and at least Ply and Brest from PR5 yet!

[ionic bramble]

I would have 4 UR bulins by next month and my pity is currently 311 so I should be able to MLB her as soon as I get her

[eternal basalt]

Wait for next month's UR

[ionic bramble]

unless the next UR is absolute bonkers

[eternal basalt]

Probably better target

[ionic bramble]

yeah, who knows

[eternal basalt]

We'll learn the 7th

[ionic bramble]

I hope its some familiar name 🙏

[mystic topaz]

What does this mean? Idgi

[stark quiver]

She has to be around dev 25-30 to be usable

[cobalt rapids]

make sure she is above dev level 25 - 30 for when u bring her to hard content

[stark quiver]

If else 🚮

[keen sable]

Refers to someone else's haku

[ionic bramble]

why dev 25 specifically though

[viscid swift]

Dev 25 is when she get's all of her planes

before that she has at max 6 aircraft

[keen sable]

Risk taker

[cobalt rapids]

what risk

[ionic bramble]

sinking, I would assume

[cobalt rapids]

any1s guess ig

[eternal basalt]

And before dev30 she doesn't benefit from your fleet tech

[cobalt rapids]

im sure some1 with <d30 haku has alot of fleet tech to benefit from

[warm latch]

not that

[ionic bramble]

oops

[warm latch]

each individual ship at obtain and level 120 gives increased stats

[ionic bramble]

not that much either

[small linden]

Is Georgia recommended for new players or has she been powercrepted too much?

[warm latch]

it adds up

[eternal basalt]

There are 600+ ships

[ionic bramble]

I mean in my account rn, I have 3 120 cvs

[tulip dawn]

Powercrept too much

[small linden]

Sad. Thank you very much.

[keen sable]

You can't even start Haku for weeks?

[atomic abyss]

she was never recommended for new players

even on release she was quite niche

[ionic bramble]

I should be able to start her next month

[keen sable]

Hence weeks

[tulip dawn]

wdym, on release WiS was quite the Georgia shiller

[ionic bramble]

I'm 340 tech points short from starting haku

[atomic abyss]

that's cos he liked her design a lot

but then again she was overly shit on as well so

[tulip dawn]

At the time her average output was still impressive despite her abundance of flaws, nowadays she isn’t even impressive if all the cards align for her

nothing a good augment can’t fix though (in a few years)

[atomic abyss]

her only real competitor for bossing BBs at the time was... freddy ofc

[tulip dawn]

and warspite

[keen sable]

Spoot

[atomic abyss]

warkai was slightly later to be fair

[tulip dawn]

she was pretty much a higher ceiling less consistent warspite

[atomic abyss]

and iirc, warkai only beat her definitively on light?

[soft raft]

ngl i still wonder why Warspite's barrage changes ammo type at skill lvl 6

[small linden]

What debate did I unintentionally start? All I remmeber is Georgia was a decent substitute if you didn't have fdg (even at dev 30). That grind was a pain for me. Its been 5 years for me. Man I'm old. But I agree FDG and warkai were the boss killing bbs. FDF more so.

[soft raft]

yeah that sounds like 5 year old advice for sure
something you'd prob see in a guide that reccomends farming 3-4 for the foxes

[ionic bramble]

was warkai used for bossing? my friend sold her to me as a "PVP sniper"

[candid rampart]

What does this mean?

[frank quartz]

What's the abbreviation for battlecruiser?

[soft raft]

BC

[ionic bramble]

BC

[atomic abyss]

and that was what kept her relevant even after her anti boss niche waned with stuff like NJ coming out

[viscid swift]

it means you can recover the mail and message that originally came with it

it's a thing they added relatively recently

[ionic bramble]

it was about 5 years ago that he told me it

[frank quartz]

Why don't I see a BC index lol

[atomic abyss]

grouped with BBs

[frank quartz]

Ah

[soft raft]

there's basically not much difference between BCs and BBs besides hard mode requirements

[small linden]

I told my friend who recently started playing during Alsace event to pass the foxes. Don't waste your time and oil atm.

[worldly pewter]

when u have balls to prioritize her like someone i know

[ionic bramble]

the class icons are different

[tulip dawn]

Besides some stat difference trends (that they constantly break) hard mode reqs are the only place it matters as blaster said

Also some random fleet tech only apply to one or the other, like Strasbourg’s +FP is for BC only iirc

[eternal basalt]

Only in fleet tech screen, ingame they are the same in the inventory, the icon is unused

[worldly pewter]

to get right ?

[eternal basalt]

Same with CV and CVL icon

[ionic bramble]

that's my bad then I forgot where these stuff are shown. I looked at the icon too much cuz I just assume armor type from them

welp I learned a lot today, thanks everyone

[stone sluice]

How can we do that?

[viscid swift]

If it was deleted tap the resend button

Note this is only a thing for Valentine Mails

[stone sluice]

[buoyant kernel]

I'm struggling on the boss part of 12-3 rn (This fleet barely loses hp on the mob parts but loses all my hp at the boss part)
Should I change my team rn since I maxed their levels?

Srry there's a lot, I haven't been using my SR Bulins recently

[stark quiver]

Better to do it in a thread, but it seems like a gear issue

[buoyant kernel]

Thanks, Imma send the gear info in the thread

[worldly pewter]

he looks like he is 1 fleeting too

[stone sluice]

If I resent it to the wrong year, can I delete it and resend it again?

[buoyant kernel]

Yeha I am

[worldly pewter]

better to raise another fleet
u should have done it when u were in w9

but late better than never

[buoyant kernel]

I retrofitted a few ships so I just need exp tbh

[viscid swift]

What? I don't think you can even do what I think you're describing

The messages should be unique year to year

[stone sluice]

I got my valentine email on 2023, but I resent it 2022 😅

[buoyant kernel]

I'm struggling on the boss part of 12-3

[viscid swift]

Yeah I got nothing

[obsidian rock]

Question someone knows how to complete this? Or how it works?

[viscid swift]

Read the pins

[cyan ravine]

Is there any great use for these? I know there are a few elite weapons that are worth using, but I don’t have any shortage of them.

I suppose I could open a bunch to sell the gear, but that doesn’t seem very time efficient

[tulip dawn]

nope, they pretty much just sit there and collect dust

[warm latch]

it isnt, so yea they just sit there

[cyan ravine]

Maybe some day they will let us convert them to SR gear boxes

[fervent sage]

Yo uncs is NJ worth building

[tulip dawn]

Generally yes, but she is a lower priority than some of the newer URs so if you’re also working on those then she can wait till after

[south dome]

Hi, do you think it's better to run Warspite (retrofit), Monarch and Howe, or running Queen Elizabeth, Monarch, Howe and Dido in vanguard to buff Queen Elizabeth?

[stark quiver]

Warspite retro is bad

[warm latch]

faction fleets in general arent good

[south dome]

ik but as Howe get a buff from Monarch and QE buff all the other i thought it could be great (i'm a new player btw i don't have a lot of other BB's on my account)

[tame jungle]

if you're a new player you should DEFINITELY not be focusing on a faction fleet right now lol, especially with warspite retro being so damn expensive. if you really do want to run a faction fleet for the hell of it i'd advise to do so much later on when you got some resources to spare

(unfortunately that might not be for a while )

[steel grotto]

so is howe's buff not significant enough to be worth using or is it one of those my other units just so happen to be hms and theyre good therefore it works?

[tame jungle]

gold BB in a UR BB world

[steel grotto]

yeh but theoretically speaking you dont have any would it be worth it then?

[tame jungle]

wrong channel brother

[glacial widget]

fk mb

[south dome]

alright, won't do that now then, thanks for the help!

will surely get better bb's in the future anyway

[viscid swift]

Howe's buffs are not significant enough to force running 2 other HMS ships to proc it

[ebon oxide]

So the ships in the anniv selector that are hard to get are bad, and only JdA is good but can be farmed in WA?

[rare shoal]

are the UR sub torps worth it or just save for the future?

[vernal edge]

Warspite retro is the last thing you want to do early into the game, a lot of content is light armored in nature so barrage goes out of the window

[frank quartz]

How do I choose my 2nd fleet for auto repeat? It keeps selecting the 1st one

[steel grotto]

in the ship setup screen you see a button on the side that says role

[vernal edge]

Check fleet roles before you start auto sortie, maybe they got switched

[frank quartz]

I have to manually switch the fleet?

[tulip dawn]

No, just craft bidders

[cursive turret]

Hello guys, looking for some help (new player), got an account from a friend that wanted me to try the game but I'm kinda lost

What's the point of having extra copies of UR ships?

[tulip dawn]

there is none, your friend prob just raised extra copies either for fun or lack of information

[steel grotto]

not much unless you want to run them in 2 fleets for some reason, usually just use to limit break

[cursive turret]

So, if I feed the level 114 Bismarck to the level 117 one, I'm gonna lose a bunch of resources right?

[tulip dawn]

yeah but I’d still do it, you’ll likely never use the other Bismarck which makes keeping it an even bigger waste of resources if you think about it

[cursive turret]

I don't even know how the leveling system work lol, just got the account yesterday

[eternal basalt]

Best ask your friend before ruining his account

[cursive turret]

It's my account now

[steel grotto]

well if it wasnt yours not much is lost i guess

[warm latch]

the only thing really lost is the time spent leveling the dupes

[fallow valve]

I think your friend is a bisko fan to have two at that level

[tulip dawn]

As long as they also didn’t put a bunch of skill books into the second one it’s not that big a deal

[steel grotto]

collecting one for every skin

[cursive turret]

What about the second New Jersey?

[tulip dawn]

that one you can scrap cause the first one is already maxed

[warm latch]

the resources you get from scrapping her are better than the dock space wasted by keeping her

[cursive turret]

That's the second one

[tulip dawn]

Ok no skill books used on it, feel free to feed to other Bismarck

[warm latch]

speaking of, i only see 180 dock space

[cursive turret]

That's low right?

[remote yarrow]

That's barely 30 over the default

[warm latch]

that could even be default + guild

[eager mulch]

that’s just default + guild tech

[cursive turret]

How about my SR units?

[warm latch]

dupes are useless

[cursive turret]

Are they decent?

[warm latch]

post in a thread

[remote yarrow]

This is the problem of starting an account vs lending accounts, you got quite a few of stuff but you are really clueless in basic stuff

[worldly pewter]

better to start a new account and push to like w9 or something

[remote yarrow]

Not until W9 tbh, I would say at least till W4 or 5 to get the gist of the game

[worldly pewter]

then u can use this account and figure out how to settle its mess

[eager mulch]

isn’t lending accounts against tos

[remote yarrow]

But if the account has no gems and only 180 dock space and you don't intend to spend money, yeah I would consider starting from scratch cuz Dock space will be a big problem

[remote yarrow]

I was also wondering this

I know RMT is 100% against TOS but idk if lending is

[worldly pewter]

i don't think it is against TOS

[shell willow]

people dont know how to shut up about it 😩

[stark quiver]

Account sharing is against tos

[cursive turret]

I don't mind spending lol

[worldly pewter]

can u tell us where does it say so ?

[stark quiver]

No clue, heard it before

[remote yarrow]

This is on the Azur lane ToS page

[stark quiver]

Tldr version

Yes I was right

[hollow gust]

ACC sharing is almost always against TOS in games

[stark quiver]

Yea

[worldly pewter]

where is the part that says account sharing is against TOS ?

[stark quiver]

The 2nd sentence

[worldly pewter]

shall not means
if u do u get banned ?

[cursive turret]

Well this went on a different direction of what I intended lol

[copper ermine]

when do i need to worry about having a boss and mob fleet instead of one main fleet? Right now im at commander level 62 and my fleet ive used since starting is lv 100 and im in the middle of replacing some. One problem i have though it feels like i barely have enough good gear for one fleet and not enough ships for a second fleet, other than nelson i dont know if i have good bb's.

[remote yarrow]

Well, we are trying to not get your friend banned lol

[cursive turret]

I just wanted some basic help

[stark quiver]

It means don’t or else bad things will happen

[viscid swift]

admitting openly to breaking the TOS in the game's official discord server is not the best idea to be blunt
it could very well result in the account getting banned and thus everything lost

[remote yarrow]

To make sure it doesn't happen we suggest you start from scratch and just don't use that account

[worldly pewter]

yeah that is what i understood too since the next section just puts the blame on the player if something bad happens to the account
they didn't mention any decision made against an account that got hacked or something

[steel grotto]

imagine taking the time to read the TOS

[worldly pewter]

i read tos for gbf players

[remote yarrow]

Maybe Mods or Admins can give us a better answer idk

[tulip dawn]

Iirc there’s a difference between account sharing and just giving your account to someone so I didn’t really call it out

[warm latch]

you can 1 fleet all the way to ch10

[stark quiver]

If you DID get hacked, then you’ll contact cs and they’ll do something about it

[tulip dawn]

cause from the wording it implies the original account owner doesn’t play anymore

I will double check

[cursive turret]

Yes, It's my account

There's no sharing going on

[stark quiver]

Oh well could’ve specified lol

[remote yarrow]

This message says otherwise

[steel grotto]

as long as he doesnt share his uid surely they cant ban him right

[stark quiver]

Yes that’s correct

[remote yarrow]

Just try to not take back what you say and wait for Yuni's confirmation about it

[worldly pewter]

the account owner changed willingly without any RMT involved
but the RMT part can't be proven by any mean so it should be alright

[cursive turret]

Take back what? Lol

[tulip dawn]

He clarified that it’s his account now already but yeah I’m double checking

[cursive turret]

My friend had an account sitting there without being used and gave it to me to play it, so I'm the owner of the account

[flat sun]

I got Pittsburgh
Who should I replace

[warm latch]

no one

[viscid swift]

for now no one

[edgy lantern]

im gay

[worldly pewter]

anyway we advised u to play the game from the start in another server so u get the gist of it
if u won't do that then post the dock and gear in a thread and tell us where are u

[stark quiver]

Good job

[viscid swift]

#al-general is that way

[flat sun]

When do I replace and why no one rn

[warm latch]

you need to use portland and starter dd to at least level 100, portland is a cheap and good tank, and helena is very good later on

[flat sun]

I see

[steel grotto]

i wish i had an indiana rip 200 cubes

[viscid swift]

no one because you won't be able to afford to limit break her in the short term with Hood still to do

[cursive turret]

Where can I post a thread?

[flat sun]

Is there a reason why I need starter did at level 100

[viscid swift]

the rookie missions

[flat sun]

Wats that

[worldly pewter]

top

[fallow valve]

[flat sun]

Thread

[stark quiver]

A rookie mission

[remote yarrow]

You haven't claimed your SR

[viscid swift]

nah, this is my alt

[remote yarrow]

Oh

[tulip dawn]

no one has confirmed with me yet but from my limited research of past situations like this, giving away accounts should be fine, it’s mainly RWT of accounts that’s the big no no. Just to be safe you shouldn’t discuss account sharing in here going forward though

[flat sun]

Oh those

[cursive turret]

Top where? 😅

[flat sun]

Do I prioritize those missions

[viscid swift]

yes

[stark quiver]

Click gameplay help on top
Then the thread

[warm latch]

youll just sort of complete them as you push campaign

[cursive turret]

Yeah no problem, I just wanted to know about the dup system and if the account had good ships

[ocean shard]

what kinda power level do you usually need to clear a mission's D3? (I can't kill all enemies but can clear the map)

[edgy lantern]

bro wants to be adman so bad

[remote yarrow]

No, he's just saying that for you to not get punished by mods/admins by being off topic in this channel

[tulip dawn]

Well I’ll back him up and say #al-general is that way

[atomic abyss]

Yeah you're not helping yourself

[cursive turret]

Ok thanks

[viscid swift]

if you mean fleet power, that's a useless metric
for 3 starring D3, I'd say you'd at least want level parity with the enemy assuming good ships and competent gearing

[ocean shard]

well shoot

[remote yarrow]

So mostly Lv 90+ with at least decent purple gear

[ocean shard]

my gear situation is uuuuh kinda trash

oh, decent purple. might be able to do that

[steel grotto]

/equipment

[cursive turret]

If anyone knows a good video I can watch about the basics of the game point me in the right direction 🙏

[atomic abyss]

there aren't any good ones

[steel grotto]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[atomic abyss]

all the existing ones are super outdated, or outright misleading

[remote yarrow]

Youtube bad, give this a read better https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/index Here's more guides

[cursive turret]

I was trying youtube yesterday but a lot of outdated info

[steel grotto]

i keep forgetting its only /equip

[cursive turret]

Ok ty

[edgy lantern]

body weight?

[remote yarrow]

🍿

[atomic abyss]

If you wanna be a comedian, move to #al-general or #off-topic.

otherwise, bugger off

[stoic tulip]

Question for experienced players. Just finished some research lab and shipyard

What were some recommended builds for Champagne and Hakuryuu

All the guide sites and GitHub s just give best in slot info so I don't know if I need to tailor it

[viscid swift]

as always builds are dependent on the content and in some contexts who else you're running with them

[remote yarrow]

ectl/slaimuda isn't really best in slot, read notes by hovering over gear since it's dependent on content

[viscid swift]

best in slot is situationally dependent

[ocean shard]

Oh. I need to trash a lot of gear based on that scrap page

[cobalt rapids]

ectl is best in slot for general content

[stoic tulip]

I'm coming back from playing the game after 2 years but had pretty much everything

[viscid swift]

at minimum you're looking at 3 "optimal" builds for Hakuryu depending on the content

[worldly pewter]

why did u go for champagne instead of fdg ?

[steel grotto]

dont scrap some of the blue ones tho better read carefully

[stoic tulip]

Because I already have her fully loaded and fate sim

[ocean shard]

Yeah too late for that in the past.

[steel grotto]

its common enough to get but might be a pain in the ass if rng hates you

[remote yarrow]

Bruh

[worldly pewter]

champagne uses the same gear

[remote yarrow]

Holy it's so small

[viscid swift]

this is a very rough template

[stoic tulip]

I thought she uses champy gun

[remote yarrow]

Not because it's her gun means only she can use it

[viscid swift]

top is Single target heavy armor bossing, middle is single target light and medium armor bossing, and bottom is campiagn

[ocean shard]

oh you meant those. I thought you meant for the guns

[viscid swift]

there's a lot more variations though primarily changing the Saiun out for Ju-87ds and Ryusseis depending on syncing needs

[steel grotto]

yes you should probably reread the guide lol

[remote yarrow]

In most cases mk6 is used against light armored bosses/enemies, and Champy gun is used agaisnt Med/Heavy armor this is the standard for most BBs in the game

[timid beacon]

any way to unlock ships faster

[ocean shard]

the fact that you cant lock gear in this game fucks with me

[remote yarrow]

explain

[viscid swift]

what ships exactly

[steel grotto]

[timid beacon]

Like the low rarity ones grey ones

[viscid swift]

you mean retire them?

[remote yarrow]

You can enable an option that warns you if you are scraping an enhanced gear iirc

[stoic tulip]

So are most people using like a few key sets or do you make a new load out for every ship girl after released?

[viscid swift]

kind of

[forest palm]

sort of

[viscid swift]

after a while you start to have an index of what gear is good for what exactly
when new ships come out you basically start theory-crafting and testing and fine-tuning exact loadouts based on needs and the content they'll be tackling

loadouts across ships don't actually varry as much as one might think, especially for vanguards

[forest palm]

for generic, simple content cookie cutter builds do work

[remote yarrow]

This is kinda an "standard" BB loadout against med/heavy with the 5th slot being "flexible" meaning you can put a black shell, HSFCR or AFCT

[viscid swift]

no Plymouth gun SMH

[remote yarrow]

~~I only have 2 ~~

[half plover]

isnt it black shell + hsfcr?

instead of white

[remote yarrow]

For secondaries most ppl use 155 or 155 kai, big ppl use Ply gun for flex

[forest palm]

white is just better most times

[cobalt rapids]

plygun is just better, no flex

[remote yarrow]

Just let me cope and call it flex

[ocean shard]

I have that, but haven't really upgraded what I'm not using immediately

so how did ASW change that those two items are junk now?

[tame jungle]

(wrong channel)

[forest palm]

basically DD, and CL have that shit built in, also Hedgehog exists

[ocean shard]

oh F, I did eat gangut's gun

[stoic tulip]

Okay I think I'm understanding

What principles do we use to build cl or ca?

[timid beacon]

Essex*

[forest palm]

HP, and EVA auxiliary, gets more specific depending on the content thereafter

this is the basic cheap, and step-up Auxiliary CA/CL/CB will use, and again content will change this

as for Guns you can kind of look into guides for what suits the content you're facing

[remote yarrow]

The guide in question 👉 https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[slender heart]

Tb progression in campaign should look something like tenzan->gold cuda->wyvern right? Or am i missing something?

[forest palm]

you can buy the Breguet from Core Data, which is a Wyvern lite

but as far as mobbing goes that's the progression

[slender heart]

Kay, thanks

[remote yarrow]

Isn't Tenzan convering tho? Or is there not any good purple parallels?

[tulip dawn]

yeah all purple parallels are pretty bad

[cobalt rapids]

u can use purple cuda

[worldly pewter]

i was trying to say that too but then when i tripped my memory if that plane exists or not

oh wait a sec when i press on the max enhance most of them disappear in the wiki page

[cobalt rapids]

max enhance means t2 and t1 go away

[remote yarrow]

Cuz they can't be enhanced past +10 iirc

[cobalt rapids]

coz they cannot be max enhanced whether thats +7, +11 or +13

[worldly pewter]

new info added

[stiff isle]

Generally speaking, it’s the higher the tier number of gear better? Or the lower the number?

[stark quiver]

Depends what you wanna do with it, but not rly cuz some t0 or 1 gear is just 🚮

[sweet delta]

Help, my T2 pressure resistant hull is still showing up on max enhance

[timid beacon]

Can anyone help me with my coin situation I need a way to farm a lot

[sweet delta]

Wait it actually doesn't

[remote yarrow]

W12 is where you'll get most of your coin income, before that it's just the highest stage with oil cap you got

[sweet delta]

Bad wiki

[ocean shard]

I don't see this gun in the guide, is it just new?

[stark quiver]

Another one dies to wiki

[cobalt rapids]

if its not in the guide its bad

[remote yarrow]

No, it's bad

[ocean shard]

K

[timid beacon]

Damn idk if I’m even ready for it

[eager mulch]

but my historical hood loadout

[remote yarrow]

meta doesn't care about history

[keen sable]

D3

[timid beacon]

What is D3

[keen sable]

Event

[remote yarrow]

Event stage

[timid beacon]

Ah ok thanks

[remote yarrow]

Wait I haven't got 3* either

[stark quiver]

Smh

[eager mulch]

im too lazy to 3 star for a gold retrofit bp

[stark quiver]

3* ez

[stoic tulip]

Is there a site for sample load outs or we just piece it together from the GitHub?

[timid beacon]

Ah so that means I can finally finish retro fit helena if I can get those

[remote yarrow]

The only "samples" are BB loadouts like the one from before, outside of that it's dependent on content since it's not just changing your Main gun, for CVs you change planes which you probably wanna sync and that leads into more swapping stuff around, vanguard MG,AAs and whatnot it's a learning curve

[worldly pewter]

rearrange ur priorities and spend wisely

[remote yarrow]

I guess so? Her retro isn't really needed tho and if you are struggling with coins you can just leave it for later

[stoic tulip]

Are there examples of clears on YouTube or other sites?

[remote yarrow]

clears for what?

[copper ermine]

if im 114 fp away from being able to do this events c3 map how likely is it i can even reach d3 to farm?

[remote yarrow]

Like EX bosses an whatnot? you can check out #media-content, outside of that Youtube isn't helpful for most stuff
But also trying to copy an specific fleet someone is using isn't recommended cuz you might not have the ships, gear and tech they do

[worldly pewter]

the major issue is the d2 that requires 1200 trp stats

[copper ermine]

oh im not even close to that

[keen sable]

You probably need at least 6-7 L100 ships to even consider it.

[copper ermine]

so if im stuck at c2 should i just farm that then?

[keen sable]

Low cost C2 isn't terrible but very slow and will essentially halt progression.

[stark quiver]

Examples of what clears?

[copper ermine]

is it worth farming the event right now or am I better off grinding xp from passonate polaris sp5 then until i can get to 9-1? Im at lv 62 commander level.

[soft raft]

event is priority right now

[stark quiver]

Event gud

[worldly pewter]

i d dwell in b-3 and try to find my way into opsi

[maiden bloom]

Could anyone help me ASW>650 (423)

[stark quiver]

Throw on more dds, and use asw aux

[hollow gust]

replace atago and takao with more dds

[worldly pewter]

sort ur dock with asw and see which one has the strongest

[maiden bloom]

Ah...

[keen sable]

PP SP5 should be better but you can hedge and split time between them. Again it's important to low cost C2

[remote yarrow]

Throw in Unicorn too she has 100 ASW iirc

[soft raft]

clears of what?
also I wouldnt really treat Youtbe as a good source of information for this game

[stark quiver]

Some YouTubers are competent

[keen sable]

Like where is unicorn

[remote yarrow]

TDLR; throw in more DDs and CVLs

[stoic tulip]

Either operation siren or arbiter battles. I can pretty much clear any other content with whatever I'm using now

[remote yarrow]

#gameplay-help message what I said before

[stark quiver]

Best to ask here, but a certain YouTuber with a Stephen potter pfp might help

[remote yarrow]

Not when he might not have the same gear and ships he does

also tech

[stoic tulip]

I used to be pretty meta but once again, I haven't played in two years

[remote yarrow]

Just work with what you have and don't try to copy specific stuffs from videos

[cobalt rapids]

cannot copy those homeworks but can mby learn from the midgame arby guide

[stoic tulip]

When's the next estimated ur?

[cobalt rapids]

in 1 month

[remote yarrow]

Most likely September

[flat sun]

Is there a war archives priority

[stoic tulip]

I'm pretty excited. When I stopped playing they just released musashi

Now 2 urs at a time!?

[remote yarrow]

Divergent Chessboard for Iron blood ships to work towards unlocking FdG

[flat sun]

K

[remote yarrow]

There's others with decent aux

But for now just do the event

[stark quiver]

Only 2 event did that tho but yea a change of pace

[flat sun]

Do I have to 3 star everything in war archives

[remote yarrow]

I don't think so

Haven't touched WAs in a long time

[stark quiver]

No, there’s no 3 star rewards for wa

[abstract marsh]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[stark quiver]

Iirc no

[warm condor]

Is it okay to disassemble geay and blue gears? Im at 299/300

[soft raft]

give this a read https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

[dawn crater]

Is the fargo drone worth putting on ships other than fargo?

[strong tartan]

It's like one of the few options that give fp to destroyers

But honestly you're better off just using double 500hp aux

[finite crag]

how does drake stack up in terms of vanguard dmg nowadays

[hollow gust]

average

[cobalt rapids]

if its below drake then its 🚮

[finite crag]

is drake lower than ply

[cobalt rapids]

ofc

[finite crag]

🚮

[stark quiver]

is there a place that i can check when each en servr was released

[hollow gust]

ply is a better ship in every way

[finite crag]

i alr know that i just wanted to know how much shittier drake actually is

[cobalt rapids]

wiki

[mystic topaz]

I see in the wiki, my archerfish has an asr pattern that looks like this, but atm, she only has up to "2", she is mlb, so I'm not sure what I'm missing..

[cobalt rapids]

edelweiss and steel increase ASR by 1 each aswell
getting to 5 is only possible if they have a skill that gives 1 extra or u use some useless aux
since range is kinda useless because u can move ur subs

[mystic topaz]

I lazy, must find this cat

[hazy marten]

is it just me, or event pt tasks for frame are harder to get this time? full limit break harbin, 2 URs

or its normal for major events to be more demanding with tasks

[cobalt rapids]

u just have to mlb the event ships and obtain fargo thats all

other other pts are extra just to help incase ure missing a ship

[hazy marten]

ye i know but tasks seem steeper now

[cobalt rapids]

its the same as ever

[rain vine]

not really
if anything its easier because you dont have to mlb the map drop

[agile gust]

where can i see a list of all the skins this has

[whole crypt]

coin shop

[agile gust]

oh theres an info button

[raven arrow]

Anybody have the proper load out for Plymouth?..

[orchid hazel]

ah hello

how do you use all your oil, as a new player....

[remote yarrow]

smh rudder not +13

[whole crypt]

grind more
if you really can't spend it off then buy curry in the dorm
avoid claiming oil that doesn't need to be claimed like rookie mission rewards or from your mail

[eager mulch]

[remote yarrow]

[remote yarrow]

Just grind tbh and since you are a new player you might wanna read this if you haven't https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[orchid hazel]

any tier list?

[hollow gust]

smh plymmy not getting your best gear

[eager mulch]

only the best for helena

[remote yarrow]

#bot-spam /tierlist but you don't need the best ships to progress early on

Also try to not follow it like it's the bible

[wispy pendant]

newbie guide is a bible, don't disobey the newbie guide

[raven arrow]

Any substitute for rainbow gun?

[stark quiver]

152 mle

[eager mulch]

First question, is you plymouth 6 stars

[finite crag]

If you dont have that gun your plym is prob not ready yet

[orchid hazel]

so I have something to admit, I'm a new player, but my account is not new, i never played the game when the 4th anni came out and I skipped the 5th, and now im back for the 6th, and since I have free time I wanted to play the game actaully. So what im saying is i have a 4th anni selector and i just want to know who should i choose from the selector.

[remote yarrow]

Which is event locked and he may not have it

[remote yarrow]

Remind us which ships you can select?

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#cl_guns

[eager mulch]

smh smo0tie doesn’t remember 4th anni ship selector

[wispy pendant]

save it until you're done with the newbie guide and you're farming w12, and then you can pull what you would need more at that point.

[remote yarrow]

I wasn't here for it

[eager mulch]

neither was i

[remote yarrow]

🤝

[wispy pendant]

what year was 4th?

[remote yarrow]

2022

[wispy pendant]

i was there

[eager mulch]

oh wait i was here for it

[orchid hazel]

So im currently here. And these are the units im using because I never looked at the guide. 😦 Im sorry

[remote yarrow]

You lied to me

[orchid hazel]

???I promise i didn't

I have no clue what im doing.

[cobalt rapids]

[remote yarrow]

I was talking to turtle

[stark quiver]

wheres the plymouth

[eager mulch]

I lied to myself, we call that gaslighting

[orchid hazel]

oh

[stark quiver]

wait im high

[remote yarrow]

Well to start with, minus points cuz no Unicorn

[cobalt rapids]

fooled by foxes
u should get unicorn and helena from guild shop asap
penny brunhild unicorn - portland helena javelin

[stark quiver]

minus ∞ cuz akashi paw

[eager mulch]

yeah, fox mines bad, akagi bad

[remote yarrow]

And tbh you are technically a new player so just follow the newbie fleet with Brunhilde instead of Pennsylvania

[orchid hazel]

oh god, im reading the guide now and im doing everything wrong.

Im even grinding 3-4.. bruh

[stark quiver]

bruh

[remote yarrow]

I and many will suggest you stop doing so

[cobalt rapids]

rookie mistake, they get us all dw

[remote yarrow]

You are just wasting your oil for mid ships