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if it did work like that id want to refund those ship repairs i used to get past 6-4
wait how tf do i have 370, only bought depot once by accident
guild?
what's indiana tech?
hp and aa
maybe u didnt buy once 
what's bell tech
wait no its 350 by default is it not>
wait yeah its 300+50 tech
asw at 120
and i bought 20 by accident
so only fargo and pitt have gud tech
good
I mean the ship overall
but for ur dock not good
can fargo replace unicorn
what
if u give her a wyvern
is fargo a cvl?
no
what is she
a CL
oh wait she only heal the lowest hp vanguard 
does pittsburg armor break same as other armor break?
should be
+8% damage?
should be the standard 401, if no1 confirms it ill go check
it is
technically only damage that scales with FP but yes
works on nonheavy so it's good
seems pretty mid
youre mid

janus is mid but you still simp her
janus is op just wait till they release a UR j class 
no thanks, still waiting on my Daring
get behind the large line of Yamato yappers
amagi 2 cope for even further amagi 2-chan cope
Need help with 3 starring 14-3....I'm 3 gems away from FDGs L2D skin 
did u bring it to safe? if yes and still no success then dock in thread
Safe? I dont think so but I'll still send my dock just cuz I don't know how to build fleets anymore.
also obligatory f2p gems are better spent on other things
pls keep it sfw
what the f*ck
I want to have nice things once in awhile 
Wild day at gph
good to know I'm not the only one who makes that typo

oh yea lol
What the fuck is the typo.
Dw about it
there was never a typo
Holy shit I am so sorry HAHAH
lol

How long does it take a beginner to get to W9?
a week or two
And then just farm various activities and gradually move forward?
SendhelpPlz
I got that girl from walkthrough 2.3, is she 🗑️ or worth it?
shes a hood upgrade post retro
Will it replace Repulse? I have almost no one.
yea
Anyone have a good SE main for grinding Daisen? I mean I figure I can do nagato/hakuryuu/ryuuhou(or shouhou) atm but I'm not feeling any of the synergies at this point.
You don't need synergy for farming exp, just take 3 ships who aren't capped and farm event D3 or chapter 12
Yeah I know .. guess I can just farm away with any of them tbh.
Shinano haku and someone with good tech like hiryuu
whats in ur medal rotation ?
Little Enterprise has trash
Yeah I guess I should get Hiryuu up.
Where is Sandy rated for DPS on different hull types now? I imagine she's near the top
Below ply so average 
Below Harbin and shimanto, and Sandy gets much worse on faster bosses
Well thinking opsi farm fleet too, need a healer and both shouhou and ryuuhou kinda suck
Below Shimanto even after adding Sandy's augment?
Gph was throwing shade at me saying Sandy isn't near Plymouth 

Gph couldn't imagine sandy Aug was bugged before I posted it
harbin is near ply
and that was before bug
Mob & Boss fleet help for chp 13
Where can I watch this?
You mean this?
Unfortunately SR CA just has nothing
CA
Yeah, I don't think they are good.
Buy them sometime before September just for tech points
Do you think I'll have time to save up for both? Which one do I need? Prince Eugene is free, but what about the others?
minne for ancho tech, and then atago or tako for haku tech
However, other than those points they are useless and there is no point in using them?
yea theres better permanent alternatives
u would be lucky if u get enough for the 2 SR bulins before the end of the month 
So they are a priority?
The gold bulins are priority
I need something like this?
Or is this outdated information and there is someone better than the green line?
i'd put the cores on the top near the bulins too 
bulin cores hood red then the others stay green
is there any good boss fleet tanks that can replace portland untill i get access to anchorage?
Pittsburgh
ok
depends on what you have
ok thx
not exactly a gph question but whats the soundtrack vs the masked boss in this event
I thought Pitt was a worse tank than Portland, was that revised?
devs revised her to have medium amr
B3/D3? or what masked boss
Amagi's medium
akagi/ kaga
the music that plays after the boss spawns?
yeah
Technically all 3 have been on this CtA, so it's hard to say. I haven't gotten to D3 yet, my computer crapped out yesterday and I was busy all day today
the really japanese sounding one , I dont know how else to describe it
It slaps so hard
theme-akagi-inside
is there an agreed upon least-cost most-cubes purchase?
no because cubes are expensive
Yeah, don't buy cubes
the trade license i guess
i know but these are quality american ships, i NEED these cubes
license is always worth unlike other games where getting it needs you to log in daily, like gfl
i dont play other gachas so the whole mechanic is unique to me
dont buy cubes its a bad purchase
Are you using your cubes to randomly pull on the permabanner? If so, you need to stop that and only do one light build a day during non-event periods
what are B/D 2 and 3 three star rewards
if you want to spend for gameplay buy dockspace
You get plenty of cubes without buying any to get almost every ship if you're careful
no, only events, i just spent a lot on the last rerun because i had been away for about a year
Don't forget there's also going to be a UR event sometime next month
will it be EU, cuz i only really use EU. I always try to get the ships but im only really invested when its Eagles
as someone who have bought cubes before, yeah its not worth it
having said that no one gonna stop you should you still think you'll get value out of it
What's the most interesting thing in the store that makes sense to buy? I assume it's the rings on sale? Of course, after you've opened a lot of slots in the dock, dorms, etc.
wdym
i have 3 unused rings lol
With gems, i wouldnt even think about anything other than docks
No, IJN is most the most likely faction
f2p : dock space only
whale : whatever lol
rings and skins
yeah im not very concerned there. Im max eagle faction and like lvl 2 sakura and IB
for $8 akashi gives you 30,000 coins, 1,500 oil, 30 cubes, and 500 gems. that's enough to do your daily build pull on light con, for the mission, and a bonus bit of oil and gems.
For f2p you are given very few gems, then there is no point in spending on anything else except dock and dorm slots?
license always worth
Yea
PRetty much
for $0 i can do light pull daily and have a net gain of at least 3 cubes a day
thats not rly worth since you could use 10$ to buy 1200 gems granted you have 2x
and then coins are worth nothing, 1500 oil is worth nothing, and its only 30 cubes
What is the difference?
range, damage, reload, stats
one is pure AA and other has hit/fp forgot which
They're completely different AA guns
STAAG is an accelerator, Sextuple is high AA damage
my bad i didn't realize it was sexbofors vs staag
STAAG gets slapped on BBs 
Which to use for w13/15
Your arrow's pointing the wrong way for the one with hit.
both
both
stagg > hazel > anything else for main fleet, bb prio over cv
STAAG is best BB/CV gun, Sexy is good for AA carries
he has hit/fp, the ⬅️ is indicating that it’s hit and not fp 
Is there a way to turn on auto-search and it automatically fights all the fleets instead of going to boss whenever it spawns?
there’s no fp AA gun in that SS
No
no
are you trying to maximize the use of the books or just do a full clear for stars
too lazy to click all nodes
For stars
3rd star requires you to manual click every enemy on the map
full clear on your first round and then its not a problem. you can't auto it anyway.
3rd star on safe is the way for harder stages like 14-3 and above
thats why you always full clear a hard mode stage on the first try, because you only need 1 clear to get 3 stars
Also fighting all the fleets gives more chances for drops, no? Unless the drops are bad on those fleets, etc
yes but unless you're using books for a very specific thing, like farming WA for specific ships
its a waste of time and oil to grind every space in a stage
yes but the boss gives the best drops of any enemy and some things only drop from the boss
i manually cleared chessboard 100% using books for Deutschland and the Scharnhorst sisters.
If I understand correctly, it is best to first clear all the ships on the map, then retreat and then repeat until you have two stars, and start node again but only for fight the boss to get 3 stars?
so the goal is always to rush the boss asap unless you're 3 starring
for what, hard mode?
no, under no circumstances would that be optimal
hm meta is clear everything and beat the boss, move on to the next stage. you can infinitely grind individual fights and get kill credits and retreat.
no it isn't
so long as you dont beat the boss fleet
That's only for hard mode
for all the 3 star goals yes
it isn't esepcially for 3 star rewards
you need to full clear and hit the boss fleet in the same run
I think he's talking about for campaign hard modes
Well I heard that for hard modes you usually choose between normal enemies and the boss before taking out either one to make it easier to clear for 3 stars.
event stages just full clear your first run. every other regular clear will hit the 2nd star kill count after that
you only need to beat the boss 1 time for 3 stars, because retreating out doesn't use a hm attempt, and all fights count toward the kill count star.
Exactly, since retreating after clearing the entire map except the boss does not take away an attempt, then this is a good way to farm or am I wrong?
no, you need to kill the boss to get a full clear credit.
Then why do some people do this?
there is no reason to farm hardmodes, they are worth nothing more than the normal map.
for stars after they clear 100% once
It lets you 3* campaign hard modes faster
hm farming costs a lot of oil because you only get cap'd using clearing mode, which skips all map fights and only enables the boss fight.
So we kill the boss first, and then just clear the map with regular enemies each time and retreat to get 3 stars, but not waste an attempt?
rushing hard modes they skipped would be the only legitimate reason. you could always just play normally
the only reason to 100% a hard mode is if you can't push the higher level hard mode for that specific ship bp you need to farm. like if you couldn't handle 12-4 hm for farming cv bp3, you clear 11-4 100%.
because you NEED to S-rank a mission for the best drop chances
Hmm, but as a true perfectionist I can't miss an opportunity when I don't have 3 stars cleared for each. Or does it not make sense and I'd better just move forward and not waste extra fuel?
1 boss. Why are there so many entities killed
this is done mainly for the injection of T3 retrofit blueprints early on
In the samheart guide, do I assume this is all ryuusei?
3 stars are important, making them 100% isn't
if you don't need them then don't do it
Planes count
rockets as in rocket fighters
hvar hellcat
so three of these?
in like a few months maybe
Does the morale of each ship decrease for the node as a whole at one time or every time for any battle with the enemy?
every battle is -2 morale, if they sink then -10 morale on top of that
What is the best comp for the extreme sandy challenge
oh my days this is gonna suck to farm
And the loadout
3 UR Battleships with Twin 410mms/FDG Guns
FDG herself is actually pretty potent for this
It is also advisable not to lower morale below 50, so as not to lose affinity?
when the warning pops up thats when you stop
you only lose affinity when you sortie them with 0 morale
Last time I used FdG Bis zwei and Ulrich and it doesn't work
Maybe it was the VG issue? I used hinden ply Helena
I don't remember what vanguard I ran but I did FDG, Zwei, and UvH and it cleared fine for me
What about an ambush, is it preferable to evade or is it better to attack?
I was afk during the run so idk if my VG is dying or not though 
you can throw UR bb and then brute force it
don't bother with Helena though for this fight, syncing is not gonna work out
i evade
Should i get the bb raninbow he gun ir the ap gun
so you timed out?
Ah ok
I actually forgot, maybe I will try again without Helena and see the results
Does this have any bearing on additional rewards or anything like that?
also helps to read the bosses' skills
no
This was the fleet I used to beat it.
you're confusing a bunch of stuff together. hard mode has 3* rewards. hard mode does not have clearing rewards. hard mode has a quirk where a cleared map only needs the boss to be killed. This makes it very very easy to 3* hard mode maps. You can choose to not use attempts to clear it and use retreat method to get 3* but you would potentially be making it a lot harder for yourself because you can't use the quirk.
does unzen do more light armor dps than hinden and ply
Hindenburg no
thanks
if i hard focus one dr ship, how lon would it usually take to get from d15 to 30
depends on how many other ships are left in the season
i only maxed shimanto
you'd still be about 350 BPs off though either way
So ideally I don't need to use retreat and just go through it completely?
probably the usual timeline then, I'd say you'd need about another 2 months at minimum without investing heavily in cube researches
Mk7 is about 10% more damage assuming both are +10
So basically waste of mats?
+13 Mk7 vs +10 Mk6 is obviously quite a bit bigger
Hi how does the crit mechanics work, like how does B2 jump from 167/shell to 10k/shell
not a waste but its not a priority
Oh
a waste no, not a high priority though
10% isnt small either
also does ddg missile dmg scale off of torp
Ops is opsi right
yea
Don't forget you can +13 the MK7, giving you more coefficient as well
but that opsi dmg boost isnt why you +13
Yeah, it's the hidden power boost on Damage Modifier.
Rainbow he vs rainbow ap other than ammo type?
not much of a point in comparing, youll be using guns depending on the armor type
Different uses. If you're fighting light armor, you want HE. If you're fighting med or heavy, you want AP
That said, you don't typically use the rainbow AP gun in boss fleets due to timings. You want to use Soyuz/Champagne guns for those fights
you're comparing apples to oranges
the 2 guns have completely different roles and use cases pretty much never over lap
does anyone have any advice on affinity farming? I cant find any information about it -- what can I do to raise it faster besides sortie/dorm/secretary?
go to wiki and check the formula, also the 167 dmg is prob not from zwei main gun but from smth else
that's all you can do, there's no faster method, other than those and actively using the ship
Use the ships on sorties obv
got it, thank you!
i guess i'll just wait until she loves me enough...
Is there a dd gun tier list
those kind of tier lists don't exist, we have equipment guides though 
/wiki list of destroyer guns
well they do exist on the CN side of things, but it does no one any good
What about rings for free stats? Does that even make sense or is it just for waifu stuff?
It's really not worth it unless you're buying gems
oathing for the stats are for whales
it's more waifu than anything you only get a .06x increase which is very miniscule
Does anyone still use odin gun on uvh?
no one ever did 
Most common for UvH was still champy gun
nobody ever used odin gun on uvh seriously
Someone recommended me that due to really fast reload
someone trolled you
However, are rings still better than just skins?
rings give in-battle benefits
they're a cosmetic choice, not every ship has an oath outfit mind you
Speaking of 457, is four twin 457 rainbow is sufficient enough? Because I kinda feels lacking with them, but I'm not sure if I should craft more of them or not
2 or even just 1 is enough
4 should be more than enough
I have a few
hi haru
I already have two rainbow HE gun I forgot the name, should I just craft them instead

You should be fine with 1.
Or maybe craft more tenrai, idk tbh
How much tenrai ideally you should have as late game player
u can't craft a tenrai
craft when u need
2 is enough, more is convenient
^^
i never heard of a verb to gear lab 
3 is enough, more is convenient
1 is enough, up to 5 or 6 gives benefit in a fleet, more is convenient
You want as many as possible, since they're great for both BBs and CLs that can't equip DD guns
I guess I will go with ply gun and tenrai then
Gonna use all of those unused PR2-5 BPs lying around in depot
Why not save for URudder, coming March 2025?
liar
Is this a copium or actually confirmed lol
so it's event gear or?
he's been coping like that
what's a UR udder
kashino
aren't aux put into the core data shop ?
Oh, then I guess URudder comes December 2024.
everytime you mention it it gets gelayed by a month
gelayed
URudder with 100% evasion rate for 10 seconds when it proc
that's called Eldridge
URudder will just be +16 Gold Rudder 
do rocket fighters take the same slot as dive bombers?
oh god that's a lot of plates
theyre fighters
aw 😔
i might be tripping but there aren't yet figher / db slot yet
just about every UR CV has one
kek
... Huh
There are triple flex slots, of course
But now that you mention it...
Are there any that are locked to ONLY Ftr/DB?
the only one that has 2 would Haku but that's DBs and TBs for her 3rd slot
actually wait Formidable and Impero have them don't they
Albion has double flex DB/TB for third as well
Oh
Yes, indeed they do
Formi and Impero
AND Aquila 
Damn
Forgetful lmao
Truly a going senile moment
so 3 CVs have it 
rocket fleet seems so expensive to build. Is the damage better than ryuusei? (fighting opsi)
It's better against lighter armour types
but there's only one light armored fighter . it's still better?
i mean that dosent change anything
Well as always specialty is dictated more by what gear you have equipped
What is MNF
Vichya Dominion
So what's SN
Soviet
Marine Nationale Forces
Would it be considered bad help if I submitted build/infographic about cheap fleeting
FFNF is Free French Naval Force 
I think we might need a little bit more context to answer this question
budget builds
well, for example, i have a cheap fleet build that clears c1-c3 at 16 per with no fail, every event and up to 8-4 farming.
meaning it clears all pre-cap content quickly and effectively
uni ddg is 20 oil and you dont have to go out of your way to farm ships you arent already using or are useful to you
what good is a low cost fleet for the majority of the population anyways
usually the only people who are farming pre w9 are the ones who need to level their useful ships to keep pushing anyways
is this equipment good?
event equipment, auto buy
we are eating good with the latest 2 event SRs
i mean is it worth upgrade
Oh it's a vanguard FP aux 
i could see it being okay on z46
can i use it on z23?
z46 is not used for AA
📣
Hmmmmmm
Higher FP than BTM, but in exchange its defensive stat is not a universal one 
Interesting, in principle
I thought on vanguards, you wanna take survivability auxes?
You do as a general rule, yes
specifically because of her augment
idk if you'd ever use aa aux on sandy cause she already does so much
if die=survivability if no die= more dmg
if lazy= survivability

sandy wants a toolbox and a washing machine iirc. or a hedge for w14
makes sense 😂
z46 aug boosts her fp based on her aa stat so she gets a bit of double dipping from fargo's drone
???
I just got my first ship to 120 (Hood), should I use or save the cognitive arrays to get her to 125?
Other skill
other skill, my bad
Oh, ah, I see where you're coming from
Note, though, that 15% of 20 is 3
So
I wouldn't go out of your way to do that
it’s 3 fp from the skill from the aa from the aux
what's the drone fp at +10
I'm aware of the other skill, I'm just pointing out you're wrong about the UE, however that skill doesn't justify the drone either way
mistakes happen i mixed it up
Do the new ships have decent tech ?
Also dear me, it's 28 only at +13 
It's the same FP at +10 as BTM...
But supposedly the drone does damage 
i dont have fargo yet so idk
cooper tells me it’s a negligible amount of damage 
Makes sense
damage is damage
Just fargo and Pittsburg
i will admit to being biased because i like z46 but i digress; i see event item, i buy event item
Who to develop? (I've done saint louis, chesire, fdg, and all of pr4 besides marco polo)
2k fake points now is +800/1200 core data later
Does admiral hipper u give the same amt of tech points if i mlb her
she gives 0 tech
kearsarge
?????
Pitts is CA FP+1
Fargo CL FP+1
Herring is SS TRP+1 if you want to do that fsr
The other two are a bit 
Indiana is BB AA (literally had to pick the worst tech of the SoDaks smh)
And Bell is DD ASW
thats a straight up horrible idea
literally the only reason to mlb hipper mu is so you can auto-retire her when she spooks your heavy con
If you finish 4 then do 5
4 > 5 > 7 > 6 
if u feel like u need or want to u can use them
Save, Hood isn't really a good candidate for 125
Should I just use arrays on UR ships then?
only if you use said UR ships often
only if you use said UR ships where the 5 levels will matter
What do you recommend going for first in pr5?
Plymouth
Harbin is pretty good and you’ll get the bps for her faster
but unless you have the bps to dev30 them then it doesn’t matter who you pick to get first
Huh
Turtle is now no longer "not cooper"
And Cooper is now no longer "not turtle"
So they've fused 
Developments...
After a UR is rerun, they get put on the ur exchange right
Whenever they get made permanent, yes
Although when exactly they get made permanent
Is an open question
Their event has to be added to war archive, and that's when they go perma
whats best setup for perseus
Best setup for Percy is using Uni instead
flapjack + wyvern + staag + 2 gold catapult
i was checking tier list but im missing half the torp bombers
Normal stuff
running in two seperate fleets
you can use barracuda if you don't have wyvern
You don't generally want to run a healer in a boss fleet.
for w15?
nah im doing event rn for xp
oh and the uh... the breuqeeeuetyewutt in core shop
if they don’t have half the torp bombers on the tierlist then I don’t think they’re w15 ready 
i gave up at 14-4 for story
idk the damn spelling, but that's also good
breguet
damn i wasn't even close
breguet
i have the planes just dont want to swap the gear
u got the first letter....
You can just call it a baguette, we'll know what you're talking about
im doing my best 
Well, first three letters
Points for effort
your best isn’t enough 
is there any limits to the amount of perma UR pity? Like, reaching 400 cubes everytime
"you're best". Try again
That's confusing because of the old Iris DD gun 
Is it better to level up through books or in some other way?
So by the time sept UR drops will there be another perma UR
do elaborate
Nah, not guaranteed
where did you get that idea
farm in 12-1/4
playing the game
Rip
It's not impossible, but
We definitely are not certain of such a development, as yet
exp book if you need to boost the ship to survive in whatever you plan on doing, otherwise just sortie
or event works too, get event points and some coins
Books to 80 or so, then 12-1/12-4
Whenever you reach the perma pity, you can choose one ship from the pool
Overflows are not counted if you go over 400
There is no limit to how many times you can hit the perma pity number
Until you can generate your own books, books should be reserved for fixing mistakes and bringing new ships online.
... Which reminds me, I should prob redeem my perma pity 
pog, so can get as many perma UR ships that way?
Yep
yes
fleet power gaming
this is some 🐳 talk
lol I only collect dupes of UR
This is the fleet setup I've used for all pre-ch9 farming and clearing all stages in C-map hard modes. It runs at 16 oil, clears without any issues. I do have my other fleet running as the cross-fleet support build with extras but it's not required. Other fleet kills the boss. This is mainly just to conserve oil for the event stages and be highly accessible to all players with no event or gear lab equipment. everything pictured is easily acquired through drops/gear boxes with the exception of 1 gold wheel which can be farmed from WA or gained via research.
not reading allat
Pre ch9 farming lmao
If i get another UR exchange which one should i get again for limit break
the one closest to max lb
I dont have any close to mlb
just use unikai + DDG lol
shinano first
Say less
Whichever of the three you expect you'll use first
But almost certainly one of the two backliners first
other fleet clears the boss
lul
just use unicorn ddg its 20 oil and you dont have to use your crossfleet fleet to kill boss because the raggedy 16 oil fleet cant do it
Well, unless you intend to join the torp meme cult, but that's another story
lol, lmao even
interesting 
ok, that's costing you core data and spec data for retro chang chun
unicorn ddg are also much better in the sense that you dont have to go out of your way to raise silly common ships that wont be of much use to you
but retro chang chun is a good ship you should get anyways
especially for newer players
you don't even need to use DDG. i used unicorn+cassin to clear C
DDG good, you're just gimping yourself
thats nice
only 12 oil 👍🏼
the crossfleet 
no need levels up 6 shitters for farming
it's useless the moment you're recommending low oil to new player
what's the "cross fleet"?
you're not gonna talk about accessibility when you wanna low oil
Does the First floor also help with morale or is it only second floor?
ships that interact outside battle just by being in the other fleet
both
extra support provided to the sorting fleet by non active 2nd fleet
Aight thx
1st floor 40 regen/hr
2nd floor 50 regen/hr
60 for oath
how do you manage oil well? Im constantly running out of oil and coins as well.
some skill in either fleet somehow helps the other fleet huh? that's interesting
Also increased max Morale from 119 to 150 right?
yes, dorm morale regen goes above 119
Any of the new units meta?
Thx
whats everyones opinions on Indianas kit?
i dont, just spend all the oil on good stuff
currently you have marco, shima, nj, shinano, tosa, perseus, indepkai, for crossfleet options
worse than rainbow BBs
what are you doing thats running out of coins?
cuz u kinda just sit and wait for oil to regen
Build the zombie fleet if you want to farm other worlds...other than that just chill until you regain the lost oil..
not for you
The new ships are decor?
what stages are you trying to farm?
no, they just arent worth to pull for new players
Danm.
retrofitting, just got unicorn retrofitted and working on laffey, Upgrading gear, gacha to do the 3 a day, and i guess other stuff i lose track of.
i use shima, nj, indepkai for cross fleet for this budget build which is not unreasonable at all
just farm stages then
help me make fleets for w14 and maybe w15 plz
yep not at all, i could definitely see a new player acquiring both shima and nj!!!!!
800 cubes over time
emphasis on new player
800 cubes!!!!!
no, they just arent worth to use except for tech, for people with 10 rainbow ships
which shouldnt be spent on shima and nj
funny how you attacked mine for not being accessible...
Do you have all the ships from the current event?
24 ur bullins
i got my first perma UR pity after 6 months and i got shinano
you can literally use permanent crossfleet and it would have worked too
holup lemme just get 800 cubes on a fresh account rq and use it to acquire a 0lb nj and shima
can even use unicorn+2 mahan
I have the fargo from the event shop. I only have 200 cubes and im trying to be careful because i heard we are getting a banner in sept with a new ur ship right?
and it would still be cheaper than yours
you literally spend nothing to get shima and nj
use zero crossfleet except akashi and try
of course you dont, other than the months of waiting that is :)
Correct. If you aren't worried about getting all the ships from the current event, I would only do a single pull a day instead of 3, as the point gain isn't worth the cube investment
by the time a new player gets shima and nj then they don’t have a need to low cost
you can also randomly pull shima and nj on heavy con
and the cost of getting 2 0lb ships that you have no hopes of limit breaking
Any idea if they're in the event pool as well?
gee why didnt i think of that sorry mb youre right

hey, dumb luck is dumb luck.
dumb is dumb
not just luck! everything about this is just dumb!!!!
its not like nj and shima are required though, and you can get indepkai in normal progression
new player dont low cost, new player should be farming with 6+ ships on oilcap map
new player should use all ship to lvl them up
^someone with no luck 🤓
How
😮💨
new player should not be farming for yuudachi, foxes or whatever other shit is in pre ch9
wdym how... unicorn 11+cassin 1
Uni Kai + literally anything would be 100X better than what you use Seb, you don't low cost as a new player, its stupid and plain dumb, don't handicap and drive new players away seb by feeding them moronic info
New players often aren't even capable of getting to oil-capped maps depending on how new they are
my fleet clears all the wa stuff and farmed maya from 8-4, which is the main reason why i built it, and it doesn't waste my uni's morale farming a shit stage
why farm maya tho? collection?
even then they should use full fleet to lvl up

Agreed
if they cant get to oilcap they need leveled ships more than anything so full fleet still
unless you want them to do 1:1 and tripled the time needed
it's doable if they're tryhard
1:1 to triple the time needed but use high efficiency plan to halve time needed 
i used books on 8-4 just because it was pissing me off
same with farming foxes, used books to speed it up
just do 8-4 hardmode everyday and u will get her eventually. Thats what ive been doing for the past 3 years
if you want to save time sure you do you
why dont u just farm oilcap
but using 2x or not won't change that new player shouldn't farm low stage if possible
That's a lot of wasted core data
nah its a lot of saved time
you know 12-4 and 8-4 take same amount of time right
its a waste tho
youre crippling your coredata income
Do you happen to get your Farming info from Kimocheese?
20 vs 28 core data
times 365 times 3
"time saved"
8 x 365 x 3 = 8760
time save, but they both need 3 run and if you're not so new player both fight will take same amount of time anyway

not abt that, farming collection is like that
irdc i just log on press buttons and go about my day
yeah maya only drop from there
literally the only reason you're farming a lower tier of hm is if you're desperate for bps and can't push the next chapter
i also login and do daily, but my daily is 12-4, same thing
i only grind events for the first couple days then stop at like 3rd to last milestone
i just do 13-1 hm everyda
there's no time difference other than 1 time time investment to clear 13-1
13-4H enjoyer here 
u physically have to play to do a new hm i just auto 8-4 bc i alr have it done and the maya medals are clutch lmao
yes you need to physically play few times
3 runs on ch8 hm = 2 runs on ch 13 hm
spend few hours or lose 8760 core data
are you mad?
https://gyazo.com/b7fea8d7abe77afb7ec6fb9b3618e138 that's basic math son
not recommending just projecting my laziness
21,900 in your 3 years could be 32,850
does chesh fs5 affect her AA by a lot
^
its more just turning her into a dpstank
and are 4 hr gds good for UR bps
imagine if that core data was like, your actual income

i farm 12-2h daily because i need like 4 cruisers from research
time = quantity, shorter = faster over time, longer = bigger chunks at a time
okay time to differentiate real life from your mobile games
noted, will do 1h Q always
if you're babysitting it, do the short ones. if you're going to bed, queue the long ones
fighting over hardmode maps 😭
i'll fight you
i see where the salty come from
i yield
lol
i do whichever research isnt shit, and if theyre all shit i go the cheapest one
why all people with salty in their username like this
what abt the bunkerhill medals
bc hm maps are life or threat situations
they were asking about 2.5 vs 4h/5h its not a big deal

you'll die if you don't 13-x, share to other people or you'll die too
why are you guys fighting just follow guide and everything is gucci
what was salty Belfast like?
guys were all comrades here
its okay i will stream me completeing 13-4 hm tmrw
it's their preference let them do what they want, in gph just give advice. up to them what to do
everyone calm down
MONKAS
yeah, but the point being literally a sneeze of effort to improve something and refusing to do it
again, up to them, they don't want to so stop pushing them
i aint one to judge but hm is uhh hard yk?
as long as they don't recommend to others it's all fine
so its basically a u do u thing
i knew my full KMS fleet is fine
u do u, good or bad, but don’t spread bad 
well it is fine i'm still using them
idfk fam ive just met too many dumbass people that literally do stupid shit and complain about their self-inflicted problems.
in gph we give advice, not force it down people’s throats
we also stab people that give misinformation on purpose
ye guys dont be like 🇨🇳 we only spread truth 
spread that saratoga is good
smh not a USS fleet enjoyer 
sara is good though. not great but not bad
i'm too lazy to time my CVs
if someone gives misinformation not knowing its bad, we will correct them nicely 
think i picked the wrong time to wanna ask questions but anyhow
'optimizing' dealing with enemy subs is just being next to them right or am i missing something? jervis w/hedgehog and l2 really didnt kill one sub in 15-3 (granted no ammo) after i camped it the whole trip
i missread that first
There are no subs in 15-2
edited, mb

if hedgehog not enough add the purple ASW plane on your unicorn
use a ASW plane as well that should help
also the depth charge is gud
wait what plane 
+13 hedgehog if it isn’t already
havent played azur lane in awhile is my squad out of date
if i post bad info i make my case and will argue it unless someone actually explains why im dumb
otherwise someone saying "youre dumb shut up" generally just leads to an argument
noob question but how do i get the mats for gear lab
isn't vt-51 in the shop now?
os
operation siren
opsi
Recommended support fleet for w15 is illustrious-implacable-illustrious muse right? Do I need to max her affection for a proper min-max before entering w15? Also can I use indomitable instead of illustrious muse?
u grind there for the rest of ur life
op sci and daily with enty picture on it
is there a guide for it it seems confusing
idk
idk about out of date, because it's bad even by 2020 standards
Also do I need to max skill illustrious muse?
skills dont matter
skills don’t work in support fleet
all you need is the ship at max stats
Ah that's cool, since I don't want to spend time and books for her
im doing it just because im a lusty class fan
So affection level matter right?
that.... is a good question. im not sure
how long would it take to farm Nakhimov 3.6 million exp using Soyuz in the boss fleet only?
And can I use indomitable instead of lusty muse
if you oath them I guess it would be a lot more? otherwise not really?
indom + lusty + lusty mu is the best setup
Not implacable?
look at the w15 guide, itll tell u what to use ordered by best to worst, just fill in each
depending on what you have
or implac, sure
implac and Nakhimov are higher
doens't nak need to be dv like 20+ or something?
d30
30 like always
Is there someone who already have dr7 ship at dev20+ in EN server 👀
oh 20 is just an eff boost, 30 is for double fighters
good yes but delete image, trophy rule is active
someone with lucky rolls getting .5hr/2.5 face cards for one ship every time
So I guess I will try implac lusty indomitable then, unfortunately muse ship can't give fleet tech after all 
Same reason why I don't want to raise Collab ship, waste of oils
valid
that would work good
i dont have implac so thats why i said lusty mu
i missed her, barely
ill give it 3 weeks if you farm like a madman
if not like 6-8 weeks
i started at frostfall and still have my useless tashkent gun bps cause fuck that event and it's scam farming
My nahkimov is d24, higher if I use generals, and there are people with even higher. Expect d30 DR7s popping up by the end of the month honestly
Least lucky AL discord mod
i have triple bb lined up for when i start farming her but for now i'm just going for the ships that i naturally grind.
my poor hindy is just a couch queen cause of no bps
Your ship gets x2 affinity if is the mvp
i think first secretary slot gets affinity boost as well
oh I didn’t know that thank u!
for this event, put her in the town
dorm + sec + town
you do need to use her though cause cap is 90 for sec
ya i did! thank u! i just want to oath Pittsburgh asap lol
do they die to attacks or do they just die
support fleet attacks
strat is to keep it and vanguard alive until down to 40 bars then new boss comes and then you blast it
they die to attacks before the boss changes?
they can
oh misread it, pretty sure they die to attacks, havent tested it yet
is Fargo from the shop worth to get now?
try to drop it from map before buying, just save 8k event currency incase
Hey chat, I just pulled Shinano yesterday and I was wondering who can I pair her up with?
Any IJN Carrier, but best would be Hakuryuu
Alright thanks man
She better be MLB before you do that
Shimanto
Any event ship I should get?
Fargo and Pittsburgh for tech
Indiana is higher end SR BB but still worse than URs
Everyone else is mainly tech fodder
When does opsi progress reset (when do I lose the coins?)
start of a new month
I don't remember, I should be able to get 3 more gold bulins before the end of the event right?
have you bought em from medal shop
great
frame stays ultra long anyways
or do the event quests to get points from ship mlb expire?
they stay as long as the frame event
Thanks
hm that timeframe doesn't sound right
That's what's on the event page


9/24 is a Tuesday, which doesn't really make sense. An extra week does, though
that could be yeah
Who should I get on limited banner on anniversary?
check third pin
How stupid is this team for 12-4 farming... 
Ignore Submarines
it's stupid because the ships is already max levelled
12-4 PR farming boy
looks overkill and since its farming not clearing, its stupid
unless you want to farm purely coins and ignore exp
It's for the PR farming
do you not have any non max level ships
...
fuck me
alright
its alright as long as it meets the criteria
would prefer having unmaxed vanguard too, yea
also 12-1 is better if your aim is PR grind
Aight around 115-117?
100 is enough
100+ 
maxed vanguard is fine
...
its just gph tech grinder spirit, you can ignore it
yes lvl 100 is enough for farming 12-1 i do that all the time
shitters lvl 100 at 12-4 is the usual
i mean he asked if 115 is enough. i said 100 is enough
it's not wrong
I'll see what I can do and SS it again
if you have lvl115+ just use it
not saying you need to use 100+, but 100+ is enough
Found out I HAVE some Shipgirls that are below 100
you know what the really paranoid do? event. much safer.
Don't look at the boss fleet...
that will clear fine yeah, assuming proper gear
Procrastination...too much story and lore to read...
skip button exists
Is there like a replay thing like FGO?
yes
Fuck me
in memories menu
when will "new" cats be added?
idk if there's even new cat announed so far
we didnt get those from the anni video for anni event so i doubt we will ever get them
i mean, they posted new siluets that look like cats. thought it's for this event, but nothing said past it
Perseus or retrofit indep?
wait where
In general?
i only remember the silohuet in stream bcs you need to screenshot 4 to get rewards
both do different things. percy is a healer, indep is a good mobbing ship
Ight bet
if you already have uni no need percy. go with indep
https://x.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1822106538213032298 this post wait...you telling me it was just a find 4 cats? not that they will add em in the future and it's a way to reveal them?? 
is howe included in her 3 hms ship buff? or do you need 3 hms ships excluding howe?
i participated in everything and didnt win anything yet so dont worry 
For haku second skill, do you use a fighter or no?
what you use depends on what you fight, the skill has little to no relevance
Noted 
anything else specific on this list i should focus? if no id take the one with best research points
read third pin
perseus is like really bad pick too but if you want it for waifu then go for it
tbh i'd rather skip ww altogether and save for jp anni instead
thats the only smart choice
list says ex tier 
also iirc she had cross fleet heal so shes perfect for when im leveling ships
and third pin aint really helping, all those are ss (got a full wolfpack and one of them just got an augment)
you just skimmed through the pin huh
standard EN moment
thing is unicorn retro replaced perseus
she is good , the thing is that literally only reason to ever use perseus is that you refuse to use unicorn
not my fault theres 9001 lines of text, pins are supposed to be easy to read and not essays 😔 (and i have graf)
unicorn is always better, theres never reason to use both
tbh, i didnt know she had a cross fleet until now 
ill just save the cubes i have for the next event then i guess
is le terrible terrible
i even have 2 unicorns 
Very good
not particularly noteworthy is what id call her
only use she gets is when you're tech or PR farming
does deleting read mail also delete important mail
Is it just me or CV backline is better in D3? BBs just keep shooting the shadow
After a few Stage clears, yes all of them survived and did it fine, except the fact that Chka is always on the red at the end of every clear 
Oh yeah, I almost forgot to ask, I know I'm a little late but how does the alert meter of the CV Shipgirls work? Like what they do?
/detection
Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553
For more information, consult the wiki
Oh ok thx

no
Oh it's like a CV hiding in WoWs and discovered lately...
Enterprise in that game tho
Is my wifi bad or did AL just stop responding
wifi bad
Weird
have you tried turning your wifi router on and off?, sometimes that happens to me and a restart fixes it
Is ayanami worth building?
low in priority
Is there a way for me to build a torpedo damage boss comp with Shimakaze?
maybe but i wouldnt want to try it
for memeing?
try jintsuu meta + shima + noshi i guess...?
idr whats the ideal comp for torp meme
noshiro is shit
think avrora would be stronger
idk id use unzen
Not wifi bad apparently, someone else has same (also if wifi bad how am I here)
wifi bad doesnt usually stop you from sending messages its the most lightweight thing you can do with internet
I mean this is like the closest thing I can think of for a "Torpedo boss fleet"
Idk watching YT isn’t exactly light
try restart wifi. i know your wifi is good but that's how it works
it can have bad conncection to certain things only and to fix you restart it
Have you tried re opening the game?
Could restart your phone or wifi too
Done both
could also be regional things
Like try a free vpn maybe
try using mobile data
Btw is it good getting that level 70 pack?
pretty subjective, but it is pretty good imo
You get 200 T2 EXP packs and 4 bulins so i say a pretty atleast decent one
if you are 5000/5000 specialized core already, do you still get the specialized core if you retire a UR?
Its just a timesaver, if you dont grind much unlocking higher chapters will take some time since they are lvl gated
you do not
gotcha, gotta wait for next month then, thanks 
ehhh if you're somewhat active you'll hit spec core limit every month anyway so it's also fine to just retire now if you need the medals
well, i hit it every month tbh, but it was just random thought 
Is there a way to tell if your fleet will travel 2 or 3 squares?
If I retire a ship I have fully limit-broken will I lose tech points?
no
you won't
Ok. Good bye Pamiat'! -chucks her into the retirement bin- -does a little dance-
more SPD in your fleet means more tiles, how many more? that i don't know
does shinano 3 or more in fleet count her in the 3?
She counts herself
Good to know. Thanks!
if the fleet have 3 sakura.
shinano is in the fleet. so yes. if it doesn't count themself it will say in the skill
What UR exchange should i go for ? i have enough bullin to MLB
Exchange for shinano, but save the bulins first
ender for my boss fleet i use musashi shinano uvh, is enty beter here than uvh?
Uvh has always been a mob oriented BB to begin with...
So yes enterprise would be better assuming you hit the Sakura requirements
oh so do i swap her in mob, i have sara fdg and unicorn there
I'd take out Sara then
Ofc contingent on the fact that they're mlb
nice ty
How many arrays do i need to uncap a ship?
what dev haku usable?
30
Otherwise she only has 6 planes and is outright worse than literally almost every CV
if it is just levelling - any dev
but for serious content, dev30 or FS5
for guild donation can there be 2 of same options?
Yes
thanks
Usually happens with oil and coins
There is no need for buying Fargo now that they give a free one upon completion right?
Odd question, any ideas on how to get 170 gems in a week without buying them? I'm done with w12 but not ready for w13, just to give an idea on where I'm at
it can drops on B3/D3 or buy in shop. unless i miss some announcement
They do not give you a free one for completing the map...
It's an rng drop
If you got her as an rng drop then good for you
Collection?
obligatory warning don't buy skins using free gems unless you want to sacrifies QoL
But FdG skin ...
Wait that’s rng? I thought it was a free one since she immediately joined the team when the story ended
It's not freely given
if you really want then go on, just making sure you know what you sacrifies
So dock space> everything?
dorm 3 slot + 2 floor then dock
Dorm is done
Ok I complete my Agir research... But I'm not sure where I will use her... I already got anchorage and brest as tank
Also almost finish 2nd tenrais, err what do I focus on research now...
Still 300 on jp ship research so can't do shinano or hakryu... Ig I can do bayard for fun?
Ofc this is assuming all are dev 30
Or kearsage...
I'm guessing Agir isn't dev 30, so no point using her yet
Yeah havnt unlock her yet, only got 300 prints
I unlock her once I have enough to dev 30
Not to mention, Brest is probably d25
25 and 29 are the same
It's the rare Dr 7 prints I want the tight fit girl (nakamov or something)
I can wait to slowly dev 30 her
Hmm I think I'm just going to unlock flandre while waiting for Japan tech to catch up for hakryu...
Unlock AvP and marco polo
So u can knock out their face research from the pool and finish hakuryuu faster this way
Also make sure u unlock 1 each of season 1-3 for the rookie missions and catchup > protocore farm
Then unlock whoever u want after that
Is there a good incentive to Develope ships in order, or should you just choose the best from each series?
Ah... I guess that other answer answered my question...
Why does alsace have such high damage
is it still worth doing independance if I already had sagatora, perserus and uni?
sure is
you're gonna be focusing on a single season for months so it wouldn't hurt to get all ships from the season
unless ofc you don't want to get a particular ship
truth is it dont really matter anyway, you'll have unlocked all the PR ships from a season long before you have enough prints to dev30 any of them
also the prints are random anyway so the best course of action is unlock all the ships in a season and just slowly get the prints to dev30 all of them
I've turned on Dev mode in the advanced settings tab, but I still can't find the numeric value for my UID.
right click on your profile picture
<@&472236072743600148> Can someone add the above link to this post (#server-news message)) so that people know where to go to find their numeric Discord UID? Because. . .I had no idea that was even a thing that existed and it might cut down on the questions. Instructions for this promotion are quite unclear at the moment.
?
That would be unnecessary
Clearly not.
Maybe that’s on you, it’s very easy to google that bit of information
idk how thats relevant to this channel anyway
This information is easily accessible via search engine, and a lot of contests and promotional events across discord can and will assume it's users are competent enough to access this information
And also #1020044605053476994 for this sort of matter next time

