gameplay-help

[elder grove]

the drop rate for gold sucks on world 6

[left cedar]

Sandy isnt a must do her retrofit
as we did a really long talk yesterday about it
newplayers it will suffer for LONG TIME with specialized cores to match veterans in UR Ships MLBed, and spend a Specialized core into something that u can do with others ships like Shimanto for Example its a bad move

also she works for W13 with only her Aug

[wind hazel]

nahhhhhh she works without aug, im sure

[agile gust]

just retro'd kisaragi for the skin, 10/10

[elder grove]

does higher world drop more retrofit blueprints

[left cedar]

from top of my head and quick maths, its some shitty like 3y to a new player to match a veteran with all URs MLBed

[elder grove]

I got all their aug from shop

[crisp estuary]

Sandy without Aug and without retrofit? Might as well use Isuzu instead. Her AA dps would be better

[half plover]

^but who needs URs like UvH or new jersey mlb, it shouldnt take 3 years

[stark quiver]

What

[forest palm]

who the fuck wants to farm for garbage blue ship that you need to retro

[stark quiver]

Just use chesh with actually good back line

[wind hazel]

i farmed for isuzu when i started cause i followed etcl walkthrough

[agile gust]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-me-raise-hands-pick-me-gif-22034641

[crisp estuary]

I'm calling out the no Retro no Aug Sandy

[sinful escarp]

i farmed for isuzu cause reasons

[stark quiver]

Then use other ships

[left cedar]

with all thes years here in GPH and u still think people it will do smart things and avoid do bad moves like farm isuzu and prepare her for W13 ?

[forest palm]

either way Sandy has more longevity than Isuzu can ever hope for

[half plover]

I followed it as well

[plain saffron]

Are we shitting on isuzu now?

[slow fox]

Isuzu good

[forest palm]

yes, Isuzu is shit

[sinful escarp]

nah, i like isuzu

[plain saffron]

After saying isuzu > sandy a while back

[agile gust]

wtf is an isuzu

[wind hazel]

AA good, but everything else bad, so bad

[eternal moth]

Isuzu was never better than Sandy

[forest palm]

Isuzu is the real copium

[wind hazel]

sandy AA good, everything else good, so good

[half plover]

Isuzu retro skin is good

[left cedar]

Shimanto exist ...
why dafuk farm for Isuzu ?

PS: Sandy with Aug is just better so just do it her aug and forgot about retro for next 3ys and u will be fine

[wind hazel]

well, yes but that's not a performance metric here

[slow fox]

smh

[crisp estuary]

At AA, she is. Someone suggested using a no Retro Sandy with no augment. That's why I said a blue ship is better than that setup

[left cedar]

150 gun ?

[agile gust]

weird i dont got isuzu

[wind hazel]

either way i think farming and retroing Juneau is better

[slow fox]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_150mm_(Type_5_Prototype)#Type_0-0

[crisp estuary]

Because she is an rng drop in a shit map

[wind hazel]

at least you can use Juneau in pvp

[eternal moth]

She only drops on 7-3 and 15-1

[crisp estuary]

That's why we do not recommend her

[forest palm]

like I said though Sandy has more longevity than Isuzu does, you could just use base Sandy for 13, eventually slap her Augment on, eventually work on her retro, and you have a literal content meta ship....Isuzu...just exists

[elder grove]

which weapon boxes are better to buy from shop?

[stark quiver]

Time to farm 15-1

[agile gust]

Gonna go get her rn

[half plover]

event shop only for new players

[left cedar]

except from guild shop, noone are worth it to buy

event shop imo are quite low prio if u already into mid game

[half plover]

or guild but I never bought these

[ebon oxide]

truck brand used in Asia

[elder grove]

so how do I get gold weapons?

lab blueprints?

[stark quiver]

Open tech box and craft

[sinful escarp]

researches, gear lab

[half plover]

you will get good blueprints, from shop and opsi

[left cedar]

i agree with Taz in Sandy x Isuzu

[half plover]

rest rng box drops

[sinful escarp]

to use gear lab you need to do opsi

[elder grove]

what shop?

[half plover]

protocore shop and normal core

but it will take time

[left cedar]

mostly of gud things came from Research or Gearlab
pretty much everything from gold from boxes are shit, few exceptions can be made for Quad Mag, Gold Catas, Hellcat, QBs ... and that is it ?

[stark quiver]

There’s also event map drops and event shops

[half plover]

maybe we will get a really good event weapon after the maintenance

[elder grove]

I bought a handfull of the shells

[half plover]

bc Indiana is BB it might bee a bb weapon

[elder grove]

only got 1400 core data now

[half plover]

did u get Independence?

[stark quiver]

Indianav?

[half plover]

wasnt it indiana?

[stark quiver]

Oh the new girl?

[elder grove]

yes and retrofit her

[half plover]

yeah, I suppose they will give the new ship a good weapon but it is just my guess

[elder grove]

any other ships worth getting there?

[wind hazel]

what's this thing

[half plover]

no I think gear is more important

[wind hazel]

any history nerd around

[sweet delta]

~~Indiana's BB gun apparently ~~

[half plover]

maybe indiana is a drone ship idk

I'll look it up

[left cedar]

w8, isnt the Drone thing Iowa class in iraq war ?

[viscid swift]

I think this is very much Manjuu's home cooking

[ebon oxide]

Already we have that missile on the Chinese DDG, may as well put drones in there

[wind hazel]

damn, we even in paper gear era

[half plover]

nvm historically drones weren't invented when Indiana got commissioned

[grizzled wave]

Do I need to buy out the OpSi shop? I have a lot of repair packs already? I buy tuning and loggers and stuff

[elder grove]

what other gear do I buy? I bought a handfull of shells already like 6? 3 of each

[civic crag]

Is this good

[left cedar]

from wut i remember the first BB that use a Drone its on Iraq, and its pretty much a recon thing from shore bombards

[stark quiver]

Yes but not with low cubes

[half plover]

u might ask the others here about gear that can sync cvs. I have no clue about that sadly

[civic crag]

Okay

[ebon oxide]

Speaking of cubes, do we know when the next UR gacha event will be?

[stark quiver]

Nothing from core shop syncs normal cvs in a comp

[left cedar]

and if i remember correctly its Wisconsin that use the drone for shore bombard

[viscid swift]

Most likely mid September

[stark quiver]

September

[half plover]

oh so there is no sync gear?

[wind hazel]

there are

[viscid swift]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[stark quiver]

Yes most cvs you can sync by just switching planes, you could probably buy beacon to stagger

[wind hazel]

what...

[stark quiver]

What?

[wind hazel]

beacon can be a syncing gear

[crisp estuary]

Google first use of drones

[rough vale]

anyone have the interlude datamine link?

[agile gust]

is hindenburg a better tank than agir

[viscid swift]

No

[atomic abyss]

Hindenburg isn't even a tank

[left cedar]

Hindy is a DPS VG
Agir is a Tank

[plain saffron]

Predl up

[agile gust]

shes a tank if you can believe she is

[stark quiver]

📣

[left cedar]

time to work Nagami

[wind hazel]

hi, predl up, datamine where?

[uneven cave]

[atomic abyss]

You use a mixture of switching planes, using beacons, or occasionally, the maintenance manjuu

[agile gust]

what is vg

[left cedar]

VG = vanguard ship

[atomic abyss]

DPS Vanguard (frontliner)

[crisp estuary]

Give her a radioplane OQ-3

[atomic abyss]

She is not a tank by any means

Unless you're still using portkai as your primary tank...

In which, what the fuck are you doing

[crisp estuary]

His best

[agile gust]

havent used that in a while

[atomic abyss]

Also, no such gifs in this channel please

[agile gust]

this been my boss fleet for a while

[viscid swift]

Yeah...

[frank pulsar]

...yea hinden can probably tank there

[agile gust]

havent touched it since 2022

[left cedar]

seens ... workable but till W13

[atomic abyss]

Seems very 2018
Outside the shinano

[agile gust]

its been good for 12 3 farming

[crisp estuary]

*2019
EN did not have Nagato in 2018

[left cedar]

why 12-3 ?
its worse than 4 for coins and worse than 1 for XP

[atomic abyss]

Right

[viscid swift]

I mean, why not use ships that need levels for 12-3

[agile gust]

cause in 2021 everyone said 12 3 was better

[viscid swift]

Those people were uhh yeah

[crisp estuary]

I never heard of that. It was either 12-4 or 12-1

[atomic abyss]

I don't think anyone would have said 12-3 was better...

Was oil cap even around back then?

[plain saffron]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ryn4o8t8AcbXUXTVLdRK-iPc10Zs5int_UjGafI1Q6Q/pubhtml

[half plover]

oil cap got implemented in june 22

trust chatgpt

[viscid swift]

What....

Just check the wiki for stuff like that

[half plover]

chatgpt checks for me

[atomic abyss]

Nagami, how could you miss the most important ship of all smh
Eld kai

[plain saffron]

bro google exist wtf you asking large language model

[viscid swift]

Oil cap was October 14th, 2021

[half plover]

nice

[plain saffron]

i didn't miss it, retro is separate

[ember totem]

purple name nagami

[atomic abyss]

Mobile is dumb
Cos I don't see the retro sheet

[crisp estuary]

Is Fargo t1 or t2?

[agile gust]

yeah i only been playing since then, glad i put that there lmao

[viscid swift]

it can't even get what ships are in the game right,
I once tried asking it for a tier list and it proclaimed the existence of ships like Hood Muse in game

[atomic abyss]

The only thing far-gone here is you

[ornate narwhal]

will we get tickets for the next UR banner?

[crisp estuary]

Boo

[ember totem]

he's putting that in a separate tab later
that tab doesn't exist atm

[atomic abyss]

Tickets only come with reruns so no

[ember totem]

chatgpt leaking next muse roster

[atomic abyss]

That Convo was a while back but yes

[sonic hemlock]

Weow, Indiana's skills are great.

[rain bobcat]

why is my net so slow

[plain saffron]

Wip

[rain bobcat]

stg i sent that when the convo was happening and then tabbed out

[half plover]

chatgpt said bismarck and yamato will get a muse version next

[ornate narwhal]

will we get free cubes? liek the 20 out now, but during the UR event

[tidal meteor]

Drone is just FP and AA boost?

[half plover]

[viscid swift]

anyway
what tech are the new ships

[atomic abyss]

Don't think so, so save

Anyways I took a quick gander at Indiana
...that is an interesting kit to say the least

100% proc rate barrage is definitely nice
But it seems she has a weird shield? gimmick?

[plain saffron]

Chatgpt said sara is best ship in the game

[atomic abyss]

I'm a bit confused but google TL do be like that

Need to probably see it to understand it

[plain saffron]

All up except retro
TL in progress

[half plover]

does Indiana look like a good AA bb?

[atomic abyss]

A US BB always has good AA

[blissful hamlet]

tank BB

[plain saffron]

I'm not fast enough to speedrun making retro script

[jaunty violet]

Fargo....

[atomic abyss]

In her case, she even has an additional AA damage reduction built into S2

[frank pulsar]

indiana looks hood level to me

[atomic abyss]

I have a feeling, Indiana might be the best non UR BB for w15...

But let's see

[wind hazel]

zamn event double bb requirement

[hollow gust]

If you are running a non ur bb in w15 ur fucked already

[atomic abyss]

The translation is lacking at the moment so hard to say

As for Fargo, why the fuck is her AA efficiency worse than Pittsburgh kekw

[frank pulsar]

could be considering her aa skills, i think it gives dmg reduction on top of aa amp?
cuz i dont trust google tl lmao

[sweet delta]

You look Oklahoma level to me

[atomic abyss]

I think Pittsburgh has the best AA of the Baltimores?

[blissful hamlet]

is this

[stark quiver]

wells fargo?

[manic orchid]

this is gph oops

[atomic abyss]

Not entirely

[forest palm]

brother got lost

[atomic abyss]

It's based on shitty gtl

[tidal meteor]

event called "Windborne Steel Wings"
No carrier in lineup, not even a CVE
Double BB requirement
mfw

[atomic abyss]

Well I'll have fun grinding nakh then

[stark quiver]

double bb goated

[forest palm]

can't imagine not being done Researching PR7 ships

[plain saffron]

Imagined finishing even 1 ship

[sweet delta]

Felix +15 luck and go to 20% crit rte and 30% crit DMG without the HP condition. And fire the barrage at the start of battle

[viscid swift]

oh right fate sims are also in this patch

[sweet delta]

Aka still not endgame meta

[stark quiver]

they are?

[atomic abyss]

I think we only care about shimanto really

[viscid swift]

what about Shimanto

[sweet delta]

Patience young skks

[blissful hamlet]

what about flandre?

[left cedar]

Indiana seens like Owari dmg lvl for first sight

[viscid swift]

also, what about fleet tech this time

[stark quiver]

man f*ck flandre

[blissful hamlet]

is flandre still mid?

[stark quiver]

also should i use pr1-7 general prints on shimanto or pr7

[atomic abyss]

EVA +15%, an obtains an additional special AA weapon;
When her HP is velow 30%, creates a barrier for herself that last 5s or absorb up to 3% of her max hp in dmg; if the shield is broken, heals herself for 6%; if she shield expires instead, her own FP and AA +15% (shield procs once per battle, stat increase last until the end of battle)

[crisp estuary]

She is? She seems like a 3mgm pre-load. Good for mobbing. Flandre, that is

[atomic abyss]

Pittsburgh what are you cooking

[soft raft]

she isnt really mid as in her statline and skills are garbo
more like she's pretty high up on the SR/PR BB scale but ultimately UR go brrrrrrr

[left cedar]

Shimanto seens quite wild in AA rn ...

[soft raft]

no way they trying to make a Zombie tank again
2 years after their last attempt (Kron)

[left cedar]

and she gets a reasonable chonky cuz zombie skill

[atomic abyss]

Pittsburgh has armour break at least

[crisp estuary]

Guessing 100 efficiency on that ghost AA gun

[forest palm]

that's not even zombie you dork

[crisp estuary]

Really?

[atomic abyss]

every 10s, procs a barrage (barrage ignites enemy hit);
If your fleet's flagship is BB, BC, or BBV, executes "sever" on all burning enemy when flagship open fires, causing armor break and 72 dmg dps for 6s

Ok no Pittsburgh is going to be meh to say the least

AB is useful but like, c'mon

[forest palm]

Kears synergy I guess

[left cedar]

try to see for gud side
probally Tech stats for Hindy cuz all Baltys till now gives FP Tech

[sweet delta]

Flandre every 20s becomes an enhanced barrage, and lose the 60% HP condition. And if the marked enemy dies, next salvo can mark another enemy. Aka still useless unless that enhanced barrage happens to have over 9000 power

[soft raft]

Moment

[plain saffron]

I lost connection with my laptop :MURM:

[patent pivot]

truly a monday moment

[crisp estuary]

So it's a barrage problem. For a moment I thought her 3mgm preload was somehow suspect

[atomic abyss]

Wait
Am I hallucinating

[sonic hemlock]

Oh did Ender look at Indiana's skills?

[atomic abyss]

Is that the fireworks gun farmable on C2

[sonic hemlock]

Oh, no.

[soft raft]

huh
what's the fireworks gun

[atomic abyss]

I did, I have high hopes copes

[forest palm]

T3S I assume

[south sequoia]

Can kronk even be considered a zombie

[atomic abyss]

Gold twin 410

[forest palm]

I wouldn't consider that zombie lol

[soft raft]

oh the beehive 💀

[sonic hemlock]

Honestly she looks really damn good with those skills.

[blissful hamlet]

info on eldridge retrofit?

[atomic abyss]

No info yet

[rain bobcat]

what are shimanto fs thoughts

[viscid swift]

we don't know what it does yet

[atomic abyss]

T0 Twin 410mm (Type 3 Shell) Naval Gun Mount

This is the fireworks gun right

[rain bobcat]

oh it not out yet?

[atomic abyss]

Well c2 farming is gonna be mid

[forest palm]

T3S

[soft raft]

yeah
more commonly known as the beehive or confetti gun

[plain saffron]

Idk if i can recover it

[outer kernel]

i'm still on midgame gear and am wondering if it's better to first craft flapjack (upgrade from hellcat) or Proto 406 sk c/34 (upgrade from twin 410) (or save materials ontil able to craft 457 or 406)

[atomic abyss]

You absolutely don't need to craft the twin 406
Priority goes to the wyverns

[viscid swift]

FDG gun is not worth crafting

[stark quiver]

flap jack, BUT before youd want wyverns

[dull zealot]

are there notable drop on D stages?

[soft raft]

flapjack would be alot more worth it than the 406 skc
and make like 2-3 wyverns too

[viscid swift]

in terms of gear no

[sinful escarp]

how many wyverns until the priority changes?

[atomic abyss]

2

[soft raft]

American Quad bofors and torpedo bulge

[outer kernel]

gonna take another 5 months lol but got it

[stark quiver]

id personally go for 3 wyverns then fill last with breguet

[atomic abyss]

OG Trip 155
OG Twin 100
OG Q. Bofors
Not really notable

[sweet delta]

Shimanto +15 luck, +30% AA efficiency conditionless, +15% main gun efficiency. When healing vanguard, the lowest %hp vanguard ship heals extra 4% hp over 8s, and Shimanto deploys 2 bullet shields and 2 torpedo shields that can block 6 bullets or 2 torpedoes each, shields last for 10s. No skill benefit for using Shimanto gun.

[dull zealot]

[atomic abyss]

+30% AA efficiency
I'm sorry what

[stark quiver]

w15 just goteasier

[atomic abyss]

Are they trying to make her even more broken lol

[viscid swift]

Well she had it before

[stark quiver]

anyways, i need help with w15 pls, i forgot gear

[viscid swift]

You just had to use her gun

[eternal moth]

What about Eldridge?

[soft raft]

She had that before, but it was locked behind equipping her with her gun

[atomic abyss]

No news on eld

[south sequoia]

Oh so they freed her gun requirement

[atomic abyss]

Well the shields are nice

[viscid swift]

As expected

[crisp estuary]

Wait, fate Sim is coming today?

[tidal meteor]

Well, not Aegir's

[hollow gust]

Oh hey , a strong PR ship finally doesn't get a dogshit fate sim

[eternal moth]

Nobody has info on Eldridge yet? Huh

[stark quiver]

can someone send the fleet builder tool pls

[atomic abyss]

Takes 15% less dmg, calls a high-speed drone every 20s to ferry in cargo support; cargo crate last 15s, and heals friendly vanguard with current lowest percentage hp by 2% when picked up.

[stark quiver]

i found one on the internet and it didnt even have soyuz

[atomic abyss]

...why is Fargo the AL version of Serina/Ayane

[sweet delta]

8 new musics

[hollow gust]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[stark quiver]

dank

[atomic abyss]

FP, HIT +15%, 70% to proc a barrage every 15s;
While afloat, flagship FP, AVI +8% and takes 5% less dmg

[sweet delta]

eldridge AA mount +1

[atomic abyss]

...a new CV/BB buffer?

[viscid swift]

Lol

[atomic abyss]

Can't say I wasn't expecting some sort of AA buff

[crisp estuary]

Damn. The amount of 2 aagm ships are mounting

[frank pulsar]

is it even worth using her gun now for w15?

[south sequoia]

2024 and we still have chance based vanguard barrages on golds

[stark quiver]

yes cuz even more AA

[hollow gust]

Why not , more aa pew pew

[atomic abyss]

Fargo looks.... interesting

An actual discount Plymouth?

[crisp estuary]

Did Shimanto also have a special AA gun or 2 aagm?

[plain saffron]

Welp it's dead, i can't do anything anymore for now

[south sequoia]

Dunno about that, I'd rather cope bristol manual than a measely 8% fp/avi buff

[slow fox]

Enemy in smokescreen?

Wording a little ambiguous here...

[atomic abyss]

Considering she has a weird heal
She's probably better than bristol

[soft raft]

She has 1 AA mount
And her own gun gives any vanguard ship its equipped on a extra ghost AA gun

[sweet delta]

eldridge AA mount + 1, special ghost ASW, +10 speed, and no spoilers ||but -60% enemy speed when flagship attacks||

[soft raft]

Ayo?
Naturally synced slow!?

[blissful hamlet]

fargo is poverty plymouth

[sweet delta]

and that's enough ⛏️ for today, gtg farm coins

[atomic abyss]

What in the fark

[south sequoia]

Lmfao def a fucking pvp ship

[soft raft]

lmfao rip PvP for the next few weeks then

[south sequoia]

That speed reduc is hella useful on both modes

[atomic abyss]

No, pvp won't break for another week

[crisp estuary]

Ah, so I'm fucked. I need to slap her her gun

[atomic abyss]

You need a week to get the item

[blissful hamlet]

only this?

[atomic abyss]

I'm assuming there's more

[soft raft]

also wahey they buffed her speed lol

[viscid swift]

But where's my tech...

[atomic abyss]

Shush you try hard

[crisp estuary]

People told me Shimanto is great for AA but did not tell me she needs her gun for AA role

[left cedar]

i need tech
gib

[blissful hamlet]

won't make different in pvp unless her invincibilty skill got upgrade

[soft raft]

But mister admin! Muh FP/RLD tech!

[atomic abyss]

Knowing the tech isn't gonna change what you do NOW

It'll only change what you do once maint is over

So shush

Unless you can go fix nagami's computer

[left cedar]

but i will know wut i should up fast, make my grind easier when i know wut is my objectives

[sweet delta]

Knowing the ship stats and skills isn't gonna change what you do NOW
so no need for Eldridge datamine today

[frank pulsar]

look what youve done ender, the miner is going on strike

[atomic abyss]

At least you can theory craft

And I couldn't care less

[blissful hamlet]

any more info for eldrige retro?

[plain saffron]

Unless

[normal steppe]

when is daily reset

[atomic abyss]

In 3.5h

[soft raft]

^

[crisp estuary]

3pm Manila time

[plain saffron]

We demand better pay

[eternal moth]

I'll double whatever you're making, how's that?

[soft raft]

Here have another Saratoga dupe

[atomic abyss]

2x 0 is still 0

[eternal moth]

ThatsTheJoke.jpg

[slow fox]

Wrong, I gave 0.02 USD to Samheart's Kofi

[sweet delta]

sam is a miner?

[slow fox]

Why are you always complaining

[sweet delta]

Why are you always botting 🤖

[blissful hamlet]

any more info on eldrige now?

[atomic abyss]

No

[blissful hamlet]

[vale spindle]

anyone have the nga datamine link

[stark quiver]

time to pay sam

[plain saffron]

He's a bot duh

[sweet delta]

just another day of CL > CA in tankiness

[slow fox]

Hmm. I assume Fargo would eat her own healing crates.

But that's not necessarily true.

So something like 10% of that 107 is from healing crates.

[stark quiver]

does fully enhaced augment play a big part in w15

[eternal moth]

I imagine it depends on the ship and augment

[left cedar]

so all ships are avg or below
lol
Only Indiana that seens somehow top for gold BBs ... not sure here ... some one compare her with Owari cuz i'm not doing it

[frank pulsar]

depends on the aug, if it just regular aug i doubt so but if it a strong one like sandy then shld be pretty noticeable

[atomic abyss]

Fargo looks like she could be a super discount Ply

I'm not holding my breath though personally

Indiana looks the most interesting yeah

Eld Kai aside

[blissful hamlet]

any new info on eldrige now?

[eternal moth]

I don't know why they'd make a destroyer escort an AA monster, it don't make no sense. Other than the typical American ideology of "Is there open space on deck? Yes? Put more AA guns on it"

[sweet delta]

@atomic abyss come back mute serenity

[soft raft]

💀

[ember totem]

[blissful hamlet]

gph when someone ask genuine question

[atomic abyss]

Dude

[soft raft]

more like GPH when someone keeps asking the same question every 5 mins

[atomic abyss]

You're spamming it every 5 mins

[stark quiver]

what armor are bosses inb 15-4

[ember totem]

make slow mode 5 minutes so he can post it every 10

[stark quiver]

2 heavy 1 light?

[atomic abyss]

It's people like you, Serenity, that make me consider just banning datamines entirely

[eternal moth]

I think it's the cranes right? If so it should be 2 med 1 light

[silver lintel]

2dd 1 med armor cv

[soft raft]

Zuikaku, Wakatsuki and Hatsuzuki
Which are Med, Light, and Light respectively

[plain saffron]

Ender shutting down my job 😔

[stark quiver]

now u can focus on yt

[atomic abyss]

If you're that desperate for new info, serenity
Perhaps take the effort to backread
Or check the datamines

[sonic arch]

Isuzu and Maya having obscenely high AA compared to their irl counterparts too, don't worry AA values in the game are all wack

[atomic abyss]

Why are you even questioning it at this point

We literally have ships that don't even exist in the game

[stark quiver]

AL moment

[atomic abyss]

Taking creative liberties with existing ships isn't really like, anything new

[faint kite]

is arbiter this time heavy or light

[sweet delta]

medium

[slow fox]

That wasn't one of the choices, Suchiperson

[outer kernel]

why am i getting namedropped so much smh

[sweet delta]

[sonic arch]

Are we getting... Drones dropping health packs?

[slow fox]

We would be talking about a different Serenity. :mutsukisorry:

[atomic abyss]

Like I said, AL Serina/Ayane

[outer kernel]

oh lol no wonder i was so confused

[grizzled wave]

does agir need to be 6 stars to reach full hp?

[atomic abyss]

Dev25 iirc

[soft raft]

D25
but she would still very much like to be D30 asap

[rapid grail]

just use her dev30

[sweet delta]

pixelmine

[trim patio]

Are the banners live?

[eternal moth]

Datamine's been updated, looks like Eldridge is there now

[soft raft]

not for another 12 hours

[blissful hamlet]

serenity

[atomic abyss]

Maint hasn't even started

[trim patio]

Oh...

[grizzled wave]

are we able to see how good her retrofit is yet?

[atomic abyss]

Well I'm looking at it

[eager mulch]

maybe, if you looked at the datamine, you’d find out

[sweet delta]

yes, you can see that Eldridge becomes a BB after retrofit

[slow fox]

Why is she medium armor!?

[eager mulch]

just a suggestion

[blissful hamlet]

eldrige only slow for 2s

[grizzled wave]

idk where to find it lol

[atomic abyss]

It most certainly did not fix the most important part of her s1...

[eternal moth]

I'm going to laugh so hard if she actually has medium armor

[blissful hamlet]

rip eldrige she won't be pvp meta after all

[plain saffron]

Do she have any barrage

[atomic abyss]

She does

[eternal moth]

Other than AoA, no

[grizzled wave]

thanks @sinful escarp

[atomic abyss]

Proccing s1 now procs a barrage too

[slow fox]

Ah, the rest of the stats haven't updated yet.

[atomic abyss]

And technically the slow is attached to a barrage too

[slow fox]

I nap. Back in 2 hours. I love 💾⚒️

[viscid swift]

This is a bit presumptuous but she looks rather underwhelming

[eternal moth]

Google translate is really failing right now

[blissful hamlet]

is eldrigne slow for 2s or does it slows after 2s?

[atomic abyss]

As I said, they failed to actually fix the relevant part of her s1

[blissful hamlet]

cuz google translate said it slows after 2s

[sweet delta]

Actually, Operation Rainbow now blocks both bullets and ramming and effectively all damage

[atomic abyss]

[dusk maple]

She dies to torpedo/alasace preloads anyway, she never had a chance

[eternal moth]

"Own flight speed increased to 10, when receiving damage, had a 15% chance of attack, one movement special attack Lv.1 (full Lv.10), within 5.0 seconds (full 10.0) second attack, full evasion possession attack"

[sonic arch]

+25% AA on 187 AA stat is so cruel

[blissful hamlet]

does it block burn?

[stark quiver]

wait is suchi a miner

[atomic abyss]

... yeah maybe it might be best to look for the official ones later

I'm more curious why she even gained ASW

W14 again?

[blissful hamlet]

they gonna add submarine on pvp

[eternal moth]

She's a destroyer, so why not?

[atomic abyss]

AAGM+1 though

[wispy pendant]

I’m guessing “enemy” should say “ally”?

[viscid swift]

It seems they tried to make her all utility but forgot to make her utilities good...

[eager mulch]

W16 prep

[atomic abyss]

Unironically just might be the case

[soft raft]

[dim summit]

what would w16 even be?

[viscid swift]

Probably Samar

Aka the last stand of the tin can sailors

[eager mulch]

W16, just W15 with more planes, more subs, bullshittier concealment, and sea mines now too

[atomic abyss]

But yeah unless they did something to fix s1 I sleep

[soft raft]

Hmmm Leyte Gulf

[atomic abyss]

S2 at least... Sounds interesting on paper

[shell willow]

wdym by fix?

[atomic abyss]

So far the UR retros all changed the original skill in some way

[viscid swift]

The 60% slow would be nice if it lasted longer than 2 seconds

[atomic abyss]

So far, what we can see is that she gains 10 speed and a barrage that procs on skill proc

[sonic arch]

Wait why did she have a base 25 speed as a destroyer?

[atomic abyss]

Cos she's a destroyer escort

[viscid swift]

She's a Destroyer Escort not a DD

[atomic abyss]

...and that's all

Unless there's something explicitly not written in the text
There's no change to how the skill fundamentally works?

[sonic arch]

We got the fate sim update

[atomic abyss]

Suchi seems to imply there is a change, but I don't see it at least

[viscid swift]

Cope there's a hot fix or something I guess

[atomic abyss]

More like cope CN malds enough

[wispy pendant]

All the fate sims are minor buffs it seems.

[atomic abyss]

Shimanto's is not insignificant

[blissful hamlet]

google translate said she give slow after 2s

[wispy pendant]

Just keep using ply gun?

[viscid swift]

I'm just going off what the datamine says

[sonic arch]

Wait is this the recommendation even on plane heavy maps?

[blissful hamlet]

[wispy pendant]

Are the aux drones going to be op, I hope they are.

[wispy pendant]

After fate sim, maybe

[sonic arch]

Hopefully the drones copy Fargo's heal

[wispy pendant]

Hmm, think so? I was hoping they were drone strikers and provided air cover

[vale spindle]

according to CN their damage is NaN (divide by zero error)

[wispy pendant]

I don’t know what that could mean

[vale spindle]

could mean their datamine script broke and they need to edit it manually

[eternal moth]

It means it's not being parsed correctly

[wind hazel]

what are the new ships tech?

[wispy pendant]

Fp across ?

[wind hazel]

all?

[plain saffron]

Ouh wait i can just clone my repo in work laptop

[wispy pendant]

Nah, I’m just guessing

[wind hazel]

[plain saffron]

Te he

[hollow sail]

eldridge looks not good but it's my understanding that we don't know what stats she will get from the retro tree though, right? hopefully she gets big increases from there but even with that in mind it still doesn't look great

[left cedar]

Shimanto gets a wild buff on her FS5
looks quite nice

[crimson glacier]

whats up

looks like eldridge is still worse than good gold DDs

[plain saffron]

Max gold for the town minievent is 99999999999

[hollow sail]

maybe she will get double FP and AA stat from retro tree, still not good though

[crimson glacier]

hopefully she gets like 1k+ more hp too

feels like she will just die if you try to use her on anything

[vale spindle]

stats for eldridge retrofit are not finalized plz stay tuned

[full leaf]

is sandy's augment important to have and is it important to level it up to max

[crimson glacier]

if you dont max it then whats the point

[vale spindle]

its important to have and important to +10
arguably more important than her retrofit

[crimson glacier]

you dont get the skill that makes the aug good before lvl 10

[full leaf]

for any aug or just sandy's?

[uneven cave]

AA carries still want sexy bofors over UR bofors right?

[stark quiver]

Sandy augment beat augment yet?

[vale spindle]

all augments with an augment skill don't activate until the augment is +10 yes

*the augment skill doesn't activate, the augments raw stats from being an equipment are always active regardless of skills level

[full leaf]

as in the effectiveness of an unlevelled mod, being the mod effect alone, is not good enough for any ship?

[crimson glacier]

well most of the skills arent as good as sandys

[halcyon oar]

Am i missing something with the Eldridge S1 translation? Im not getting any mention on cd when put thru mtl

[vale spindle]

for a unique augment, the skill is way more important than the stats

[crimson glacier]

but in general if you cant level the aug then why even bother with the aug

[opal mauve]

Because cn doesn't mention cooldown directly

[crimson glacier]

it will be so meaninglessly tiny buff

[opal mauve]

It's shown on barrage properties on cn wiki

[halcyon oar]

Ty

[atomic abyss]

It's just a waste of resources otherwise, if you're not gonna max it

[eternal moth]

WIthout the skill you have an addition ~15 primary and 5 secondary stats on augments, which is essentially useless

[atomic abyss]

It's like using +0 gear

[hushed dawn]

What are people thinking of Eldridge Kai?

[crimson glacier]

garbage

[vale spindle]

the cooldown is a hidden property, and im not sure if its there at the start post retrofit since we can't datamine rn

[hushed dawn]

Figured.

How about Fargo and Pittsburgh? Fargo seems gimmicky with the cargo and Pittsburgh seems eh.

[crimson glacier]

right now from what im seeing they are ignoring all the massive issues she has and just adding random AA

[halcyon oar]

Ty

[boreal oriole]

SSRs are pretty good

[left cedar]

all except for Indiana seens avg, or even below avg
Indiana seens like a contender for top Gold BBs

[south sequoia]

On par with owari?

[left cedar]

not sure on it, but seens like

[crimson glacier]

top gold BB is like winning the prize for the best result on a test from the ppl who didnt pass

[atomic abyss]

Not that I don't want to believe that
But where's that claim coming from

[mellow hornet]

will this event have a ur?

[crimson glacier]

eldrdige retro, no gacha UR

[hushed dawn]

Eldridge Kai.

[atomic abyss]

No gacha UR
Just UR retro

[elder grove]

I forgot to ask but before I got to sleep I'm at world 8 how much gems do I got left in the game? I haven't touch the permanent events either

[forest palm]

I still think this needs to be the new normal for SSR BBs though, slowly get BBs that edge the boarder of URs

[crimson glacier]

true

[mellow hornet]

wait the ship eldridge will get a ur retro

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[left cedar]

u mean, Indiana seens top gold BBs claim ?
her skills make me belive in that, not sure if she will be like Owari ... need tests

[atomic abyss]

Depends on if you 3*ed stuff, did collection

[full leaf]

is it worth to use gold bulins on units just for fleet tech if i already have my main fleets covered?

[mellow hornet]

the ship looks horrible lol looks like an epic or rare not a super rare

[wind hazel]

invest in good ships before that

[vale spindle]

tats wat they said about yuudachi retrofit and then her retrofit was big just cope for eldridge

[south sequoia]

Wow you guys were not kidding when you said eldridge was ass where the fuck is the utility

[elder grove]

I am 3* all of the stages and collection? I vaguely remember it

[abstract solar]

You could spam that second skill with the 5s cooldown

[south sequoia]

At most I'd expect her to be a good vanguard dps but eh

[atomic abyss]

Anyways
Shouldn't matter how many you get
As an f2p, they're not going to skins anyways

The grand total is about 6000 gems iirc

[left cedar]

Vang solo DPS is quite low, Owari beat that quite easily, the thing is, the buffs on other 2 make Vang DPS higher than Owari solo

[forest palm]

Owari can in some circumstances match Fred, so ya

[elder grove]

speak for yourself I am getting 1 skin for my goal be it the cheapest or after a year of free gems to get a l2d of my favourite ship girl

[plain saffron]

Welp do what you want

[atomic abyss]

Well, at the cost of your QoL then

[elder grove]

I got most of the required qol already the dorm and dockspace

[plain saffron]

Soon he'll be forced to whale for dock space

[elder grove]

almost at 300 dockspace I intend to start deleting shipgirls I don't use after I get the points

[shell willow]

all according to plan

[elder grove]

I'm not a hoarder

you can't tell me you use 500 shipgirls regularly hell not even 100, I bet a rotation of 30 shipgirls

[stark quiver]

Tech and auto flies out the window

[atomic abyss]

We raise them for tech so

[elder grove]

I said I will get rid of them after I get the tech points

[atomic abyss]

One of my fellow mods has most of the ships in the game at 120

[wind hazel]

good luck

[cloud fractal]

Two questions: Is Z Flag worth buying? And is the Gold Armor Plate worth it on Agir?

[atomic abyss]

Z flag no, gold plate situational

[stark quiver]

The rate you level ships versus the rate you get new ships are really apart

[forest palm]

pretty sure I have over half the ships in the game at 120+ at this point

[elder grove]

but does he use them all regularly? it just feels wasteful to have them siting there, if they are waifu I understand but if not as a f2p with a limited dock heck no I won't have them collecting dust

[atomic abyss]

The main purpose of dock space as an f2p is to collect as many ships as you want to keep

Or so you can actually run auto without needing to clear your dock every few battles

[eager mulch]

let him do what he wants

[stark quiver]

Where’s my lvl 1 nagato with lvl 10 skill I use to farm ex pts

[atomic abyss]

The issue with deleting ships is
You don't know when some old ship you got rid of suddenly gets buffed

[left cedar]

i have pretty much all CV, BBs, CVLs, CAs and CLs Techs, exceptions to french ones and Allys PRs
SSs are like 60% lvled
i retired almost all Ally ships after they get 120, only few exceptions like 10 of them ...

[atomic abyss]

Not a huge risk, sure, but it exists

So ultimately, do as you wish

[elder grove]

"as you want", the goal for me is to have a fleet of those I like, if it wasn't for fleet tech I would have half of them retire already

[plain saffron]

Doing what he wants to do is possible

It's just minor inconvenience

Not everyone want to minmax fleet tech bs something

[rain bobcat]

another case of proving their preference

[plain saffron]

Some just want to enjoy game

[elder grove]

wait isn't enjoying the game the goal for everyone?

[plain saffron]

So let them be

[eager mulch]

Some want to enjoy their favorite ships

[wind hazel]

no, i want to suffer from helena not proccing her skill

[rain bobcat]

just stop already one is proving something that can make it more convenient while one is doing what they want to do, both completely different things that dont matter because its only convenience and doesnt affect gameplay

[stark quiver]

eh, i kinda play cuz ive gone too far to stop lol

[eager mulch]

massive skill issue tbh

[sleek spade]

is there any new gear for the event? is it in shop?

[elder grove]

ahh the sunk cost fallacy

[plain saffron]

Enjoy game? In gph? No we only minmax here

[elfin hollow]

how much coins for dr bp per day?

[wind hazel]

6-10

[atomic abyss]

There is new gear, it's in the shop, we have no idea what it does besides launching a drone

[sleek spade]

breh but ty

but FP and AA boost... who would it even be good on? that's very odd stats combination

[elder grove]

anyway one of my favoruite ship is chichigami(I am sleepy asf can't spell her name right) she is probably terrible but I got her and I plan to mlb her

[pulsar hornet]

I need help with Guild Operations. This is the best place for that or do we have another place for guild related things?

[atomic abyss]

7k for 10 BP is what people go for

Otherwise 2BP for free

[stark quiver]

does a fully oathed support fleet [provide any benefits

[eager mulch]

yes

[elfin hollow]

is that sale?

[sleek spade]

Helena? I thought Helena needs survivability

[atomic abyss]

The first 15 BPs you buy everyday are always on discount

[stark quiver]

what do u need help with?

[atomic abyss]

Just that the discount decreases with each purchase

After 10 BPs, you go below 50% discount

[elder grove]

is chikuma good at anything? she is one of my favorites

[atomic abyss]

Decent tank, that's mainly it

[stark quiver]

does the frontier medal skill do anything

[pulsar hornet]

So it better to do higher difficulty Guild Operations even if you have a few Recon Fail or just go a step below and get all of it as success?

[elder grove]

worse, equal or better thank portland?

[atomic abyss]

Damage is alright if you proc her skill with an IJN CV

Slightly better

[stark quiver]

if you have a few that shoud be fine

[elder grove]

well I know who I'm replacing, portland carried me since I first started

[atomic abyss]

You need more than 1 tank eventually anyways

A single fleet only carries you so far

[elder grove]

she is not being scrapped I'll just use chikuma for my story fleet

[atomic abyss]

Yeah I mean you'll need 2 fleets for story at some point too

So you'd use both
Or replace them with better tanks eventually

[elder grove]

better tanks, is there a tier list or something?

[keen sable]

you can't fail to get 18 gold parts but you can guarantee you only get 15.

[pulsar hornet]

Ok. I need to stop my fellow team mates from using the lower ranked missions

[shell willow]

eldridge being medium is not a mistake?

[atomic abyss]

Dunno, some stuff not updated yet

[soft raft]

There's ECTL but don't treat it as the bible
It's mainly for campaign

[sweet delta]

/ehp table summon @slow fox

[stark quiver]

if im doing ful auto 15-4, would it be better to put 457 on boss fleet?

[short wagon]

purple 113 or gold quad 40

[atomic abyss]

Gold quad 40 bofors for sure

[short wagon]

okay

[silver lintel]

Ideally 2 457mm unless you use sushi

[stark quiver]

if no aquila, then soyuz prolly better than suchi yea?
and thanks

[sweet delta]

Indiana loves exposing herself in w14

[shadow yarrow]

Pittsburgh light armour?

[atomic abyss]

Baltimore class should be med

[shadow yarrow]

Im looking at datamine rn

[atomic abyss]

And eld is tagged as med

I don't think Pittsburgh is actually light

[silver lintel]

Is daisen gun better than 410kai for sushi in w15

[rose whale]

is this gun better than current blue / purple JP gun for musashi?

[stark quiver]

when a ship is dead in fleet, is there crossfleet still active

[plain saffron]

Usually it says "As long as this ship is afloat"

So nope

[stark quiver]

well thats not good

[crisp estuary]

How's the fate Sim?

[stark quiver]

^

[crisp estuary]

That's just Shimanto but at least she's actually better at AA at baseline now, not just reliant on her gun to be a true AA carry

[forest palm]

outside of Shimanto the other two felt mid

[stark quiver]

but her gun even more oomph?

[grizzled wave]

does long islands unique augment activate every airstrike? so lets say her first airstrike activates her 2nd one can it keep snowballing and keep activating?

[warped bear]

weird question, does hamann IIs not air raid assistance stack with kearsarges not air raid assistance

has anyone tested this lol?

[plain saffron]

Didn't it says in skill desc that it doesn't stack

[warped bear]

yes but neither skill are actually air raid assistance

[plain saffron]

hen the battle starts, if there is another Eagle Union ship in your Main Fleet: while this ship is afloat, your CVs and CVLs deal 5% (15%) more airstrike DMG (does not stack with the skill "Air Raid Assistance").

Because behind the scene it calls ARA skills

When it says that it's because it's like that

[warped bear]

I figured that possibility but reading comp dictates it should stack.

[plain saffron]

Where did you read that says it should stack

[grizzled wave]

can this stack?

[plain saffron]

When it clearly says it doesn't stack

[warped bear]

okay your misunderstanding something

[plain saffron]

Yes quick take off can trigger another quick takeoff

[grizzled wave]

thats kind of OP if the rng is there no?

[plain saffron]

When it says "x doesn't stack with another x" it's because behind the skill it call the same id as other x skill

[rose whale]

is this gun better than current blue / purple JP gun for musashi?

[plain saffron]

25% chance is low

[atomic abyss]

And that's why Ranger (and not Long Island) can potentially one shot anything

[warped bear]

so when neither skill is called air raid assistance but says it can not stack with air raid assistance, that means IT SHOULD stack. Now if both are referenced in code as Air raid assistance(which it doesn't EXPLICITLY say) then yeah it won't stack, hence why I was asking if anyone tested it. This is a literal game of words

[atomic abyss]

Ranger has the better load out (no fighters) and has assault carrier (chance for double damage) along with quick take off

[plain saffron]

Wtf do you mean by SHOULD when it says CAN'T

[grizzled wave]

idk why i find that kind of funny I like that idea that it CAN be OP

[atomic abyss]

You could use it as a cope 457 I suppose

[plain saffron]

It literally calls same id

[stark quiver]

whats the fight order for w15 to rush bosses,

3, boss, 2, boss, 1 , boss?

[warped bear]

neither skills are NAMED AIR RAID ASSISTANCE, thats why I said it is a game a words, hence why I brought up the code reference. If so thank you for clarifying.

[plain saffron]

It mention that BECAUSE it call same code

If it call diff code it shouldn't mention anything

[warped bear]

I agree but like I said its a game of words, which ironically makes it an exception if it doesn't

[stark quiver]

?

[warped bear]

I'm not a dataminer

[plain saffron]

Using skill name is just general rule, not absolute rule

[crimson glacier]

what are you even talking about

[polar lion]

Do u think FS5 Shimanto can replace JdA for 15-4 now?

[plain saffron]

Especially when it literally says in skill desc

[crimson glacier]

shimanto doesnt do anything that jda does

[warped bear]

like if this was a game like YGO it would legit work like that lol

[plain saffron]

Like if it's not clear i understand
But in this situation it's clearly said in desc

[crimson glacier]

what kind of mental gymnastics am i seeing where cant means can

[plain saffron]

Plus wiki usually check code and alter desc as needed

[warped bear]

ah k, becuase I already know Jimmy outed the wiki for fucking up absolute cds ages ago.

since they did code tweaking the articles weren't changed for quite some time

[slender heart]

I think they're asking if kearsarge and hammann II skills stacks or not. Not about hammann and ARA

[plain saffron]

Abs cd and skills are different thing though, and it's not a single person

[frank pulsar]

you use shimanto for aa and dmg, jda for bulk
they do different things and youll prob end up using both

[plain saffron]

I was too fixated on not being should

[warped bear]

my point is I don't have any trust in the wiki short of a patch update with hard character stats. So I'm gonna go, with I trust you bro.

[plain saffron]

The answer is nope

If you don't trust wiki idk what else you'll trust

Were human and we made mistake
Also not just wiki, gph also just figured the abs thingy

[warped bear]

I trust it as a reference, for base stats on gear and ship stats. nothing more

[crimson glacier]

well too bad for you

[warped bear]

since its all been datamined

[plain saffron]

We just updated combat formula and going to update affinity stuff

[crimson glacier]

and you think wiki doesnt use the datamines

[plain saffron]

Where do you think we get the stuff for wiki from

[warped bear]

I know the wiki uses datamines

[sharp socket]

is datamine out?

[crimson glacier]

pins like always

[warped bear]

it doesn't changed that fact that I'm not part of the inner circle of those who are working on it, nor am I ignoring the fact that some information was wrong for some time

[sinful elk]

Chat is the san diego bug fixed?

[sweet delta]

ask again next year

[sinful elk]

Wha

[plain saffron]

We get new information as time passed on. What is there is what we know at that time. We're not devs

[sweet delta]

We also get Snowy edits

[plain saffron]

Like the affinity numbers in wiki is not right

But we not devs so we can only predict. Until now where we can get accurate nunbers

[polar lion]

Since JdA improves vanguard survivability and Shimanto also has her blue skill improves to also gib minor bullet and torp shield

[warped bear]

cool so were on the same page then.

[boreal oriole]

How's the barrage numbers looking?

[slender heart]

But hammann ii should stacks with this one right? This one is kear's also

[crimson glacier]

well yeah since its completely different skill

[slender heart]

Ah ty

[frank pulsar]

jda shield is a whole lot more potent than shimanto

[sweet delta]

you know what's also potent? ||operation 🌈||

[polar lion]

Elaborate

[boreal oriole]

I wish they removed the Starts on cooldown part of it

[crimson glacier]

the starts on cooldown was a good thing back in 2018

[plain saffron]

||I was too fixated on the argument i dropped my drinks||

[sweet delta]

well they did

[plain saffron]

Btw sorry because i misunderstood part of your questions

They both call ARA under the hood and don't stack

Now i understand why you asking

[warped bear]

yup that was what I was asking, hence why I said its a game of words

and why I asked if anyone actually tested it

[plain saffron]

I'll update wiki desc when i can to say "similar skills"

Idk if people tested but since it's same id it won't stack

[warped bear]

in game they would both need to say are treated as Air raid assistance and do not stack not just say does not stack with air raid assistance skills

like kazagumos is still explicitley air raid assistance in the name of her skill

but hamanns and kearsarges are not, hence the loop hole

[desert trellis]

ah thx

[plain saffron]

Anyway for now assume that if it says, "don't stack with x" it's calling x under the hood and won't stack

With other type

[warped bear]

thats all I was asking and was wondering if anyone knew, since this would REQUIRE a dataminer or extensive testing to confirm

[limpid warren]

Is shimanto higher priority over all the prs of 5,6,and 7?

For clarification not the drs but all the ssr ones

[boreal oriole]

When flagship launches an attack, Eldrige's Skill 2 barrage prioritises enemy once every 0.4s, for 10 times. 100 dmg, scaling on 100% of FP, 100% coefficient,
10 bullets of ELECTRIC_ARC with attach_buff [{"buff_id": 150325, "level": 1, "rant": 10000}], Normal ammo, 120/120/120% armor, 100±10 range, 1 velocity.
It effectively slows the boss for 5.6s.

Rainbow+ starts off cooldown and can proc immediately, and now blocks all damage instead of just bullet hits.

AoA went from 12 dmg to 24 dmg, 1 pierce to 2 pierce, 55 range to 60 range, it now pierces shields and can't be slashed.

CN ver Of Eldridge

[fathom relic]

Sr for asking cause EN isnt my 1st language, but Eld's s1 barrage goes with the "evade all" buff and shares the same cd right?
Or just activate whenever she got hit?

[opaque galleon]

So Eldridge would be good for PvP yeah? Almost like an anchorage alternative

[grizzled wave]

do speed debuffs stack if different skills or does the higher debuff activate but the lesser one doesnt?

these r the 2 skills in question

[sweet delta]

they multiply but can only go up to 80% slow

in this case, 60% times 30% is 0.4 times 0.7 which is 0.28 which is 72% slow

[boreal oriole]

Is the new drone gear just cosmetics or offensive?

[wet badge]

can someone give me a good guide on how to get good weapons from opsi

[grizzled wave]

is this a glitch? ive never seen a 1 before doing tactical research

[sweet delta]

canceling a book

[grizzled wave]

oops ig i did it on accident once

[vale spindle]

its like how the +evarate from smokescreens don't stack unless it specifically specifies in the smokescreen, despite there being like tens of different smokescreen skills that have different names

similar to how smokescreen skills say that they don't stack (unless they say they do), the +15% CV DMG from hammann ii and kearsarge also don't stack (unless they say they do)

similar to how the +25% flagship damage reduction from hammann ii doesn't stack with columbia (unless they say they do)

[plain saffron]

Yes but it's not clear enough because both are not same skill
It's like
Skill 1 won't stack with skill 3
Skill 2 won't stack with skill 3

How do you confirm that skill 1 and 2 won't stack

Because the way it's worded it never confirm that 1 and 2 can't stack

[vale spindle]

oh you mean like that

that should stack though

[plain saffron]

Took me a while to understand too

[warped bear]

yes, I understand that. Its a problem with the skill descrip because until hamann II and kearsarge. A situation like that did not exist.

[vale spindle]

hammann ii specifies the stacking separately for both parts

[plain saffron]

But behind the scene both call skill 3 so they won't stack

[vale spindle]

thats not how it works though right

[plain saffron]

But game didn't tell that, they just say don't stack

[vale spindle]

from my understanding, each skill in the game is made up of many smaller skill parts
and only 1 smaller skill part can be active in battle at a time, unless specified in the skill that it stacks
so the overhead function that calls the smaller skill parts doesn't affect anything

[warped bear]

funny, I only thought about this becuase elridge and hamann II are so similar so I was thinking about skill stacking and fleet comps

I think before this instance we might have only had a smokescreen stacks as a reference for this, the funny part is we don't care about them not stacking tho, just uptime

[plain saffron]

Agir calls typical armor break
Bb ap calls typical armor break
Do they stack. Nope

[vale spindle]

exactly that proves my point

[plain saffron]

Same here
Hammann calls ara
Kear calls ara
They don't stack

[slow fox]

no ara ara?

[vale spindle]

the only somewhat ara ara ara ship is bellona

[plain saffron]

They both call Buff id 1081

[warped bear]

yup, but like I proved my point they don't explicitly say that due to how they named the skills. They prob ran out of text space or didn't bother to think about the weird issue that this would cause

[plain saffron]

1081 is the ara
All variation of ara call this id that's why they don't stack

[vale spindle]

oh i finally get it now yea devs fucked up

[plain saffron]

The side effects of combining 2 skills as one

[civic crag]

What does Laffey motivation do

[plain saffron]

One way i think of is instead of saying just effects
Say something like
When condition.... Trigger Air Raid Assistance, then full desc of ara

[warped bear]

if only kearsarge existed nobody would question this

[plain saffron]

That way it's clear that the skill is triggering ARA so they won't stack

[vale spindle]

na they should have added more skill slots

[plain saffron]

I figured they don't want to because then need longer to raise, mats etc

[vale spindle]

make them free

[plain saffron]

And change the entire coding? Nah i would rather combine them

[vale spindle]

thats the most cost effective approach yes

[grizzled cosmos]

is the datamine sheet mostly done or will/can there be included barrage info (or gifs if that's still possible, noticed those aren't included as much anymore)

[plain saffron]

That's why fixing desc is the only option that's feasible like the one i did

Barrage vid when i get home in like 3 hours

[vale spindle]

there will be barrage info eventually too

[grizzled cosmos]

nice nice, tyty, long time listener, first time caller. Appreciate ya'll

[slow fox]

[stark quiver]

Are we gonna get a anniversary frame and dorm thingy

[slow fox]

Eldridge Retro AA

[crisp estuary]

anyone with a lower AA output than little Cheshire is not an AA carry

[atomic abyss]

...didn't know Maya's was better than Juneau kai

[slow fox]

She has a ghost gun, from her augment.

Her damage composition is 1362 self and 984 ghost gun. Without her ghost gun, she would be unimpressive.

[sweet delta]

With her ghost gun, is she impressive?

[slow fox]

I can not answer that question, except with the number 2347.064 .

[sweet delta]

i am more impressive

[grizzled wave]

whats the 150 gun?

[slow fox]

[slow fox]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_150mm_(Type_5_Prototype)#Type_0-0

[quartz wyvern]

What hulls are Pittsburgh and Oppaidiana?

[grizzled wave]

is this the best gun for AA carries or something?

[slow fox]

Can someone else answer this question? All I know is that it makes AA bigger number.

[sweet delta]

it's the best gun for AA for Shimanto before fs5 only

[slow fox]

What do you think about the AA gun that it gives?

[vale spindle]

its one of the AA guns of all time

[plain saffron]

It's a gun

[slow fox]

It's all time

[sweet delta]

i think this update added some dragon empery musics

[plain saffron]

The most interesting thing for me is the new blinking effect in story

[slow fox]

Do they make you blink manually

[plain saffron]

No but i will make you blink manually

[slow fox]

oh nyo

[atomic abyss]

Just to confirm

Is Pittsburgh legitimately light armour in the datamines lol

[blissful hamlet]

is there any situation where eldrige 2s slow will be useful

[hollow sail]

it's not actually 2s

[blissful hamlet]

how long?

[hollow sail]

the barrage fires multiple times so it adds more time

bit over 5 seconds apparently

[blissful hamlet]

I guess I need to wait for the barrage pattern

implacable killer

[south gull]

as a new player, who should I go for in wishing well? or should I go for event banner?

[atomic abyss]

Honestly, I'd recommend neither for now

It's not a UR event, so there's not as much point in rolling

[south gull]

but as for daily 1 pull

[atomic abyss]

So it's between doing 1 event build a day or 1 wishing well pull a day

[primal silo]

If I just want gems for skins and oath rings, the 2x gems are better than monthly, right?
I have bought gems, but feeling insecure

[atomic abyss]

Yeah the 2x are more worth it

[south gull]

yes

[primal silo]

Thanks.
Gem reset whooo

[atomic abyss]

I'd say do 1 event build a day or wishing well w/ light build

[south gull]

so who do I put in wishing well?

[inner delta]

wait how? she's a balti

[atomic abyss]

Idk, that's why I'm asking

[jaunty vault]

/wiki pittsburgh

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

[atomic abyss]

Cos of that idiot that took the datamine as fact

And made an entertaining rant in #game-feedback

[jaunty vault]

idiots

[supple verge]

Has the new pr6 fate sims improved any of them significantly or are they small buffs?

[inner delta]

oh w/e it's feedback channel

[atomic abyss]

Felix and Flandre FS5 are "meh"

Shimanto's is pretty good

[silver lintel]

Shimanto fs5 is pretty huge

[sweet delta]

goddamn

[south sequoia]

Whats peoples thoughts on eld retro

[supple verge]

Shimanto was already really good to begin with iirc so making her better makes the W15 grind easier i guess

[sweet delta]

i'd compare flandre's fs to cheshire's fs or anchorage's fs

[jaunty vault]

peiples thoughts are wait

[atomic abyss]

Eld retro, superficially, appears underwhelming

[south sequoia]

So... pretty minimal

[atomic abyss]

But then again, poi retro also appeared underwhelming

[south sequoia]

Tbf I always thought poi retro was strong from the mine

[slow fox]

I'M underwhelming

[atomic abyss]

It does seem that the retro changed more stuff in the code as opposed to in the skill text

For some, bizarre reason

[south sequoia]

Do we have barrage nums or nah

[atomic abyss]

Not yet

[jaunty vault]

well ig this is every other Thursday for gph
ill be back in 2 days

[slow fox]

#1273488166279712829 is barrage, right?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[atomic abyss]

O

[slow fox]

Ender also misinformation spreader

welcome to the club

[jaunty vault]

people can't read tho

[atomic abyss]

If people actually bothered to name threads properly

That'll help

[boreal wagon]

she currently is actually light armor but i imagine that change before maint ends

[blissful hamlet]

new equip any good for offensive aux?

[atomic abyss]

[atomic abyss]

Looks meme

[blissful hamlet]

ah right lower fp than fumo

[atomic abyss]

We actually need to test the passive it has

[blissful hamlet]

wait same fp than fumo but without hit

[vale spindle]

Wishing Well (8/15/24)

Notes:

1. Event banner has higher priority than Wishing Well, since Events are time-limited and Wishing Well ships are permanent.

2. Picking Light construction ships is preferred since you can build on it for your daily build for free. If you are missing ships from Special/Heavy (notably Submarines), it is fine to pick them.

• Be careful about cube spending!

3. You can select a permanent UR ship (New Jersey, Shinano); if you select a UR ship, the other UR ship is removed from the build pool entirely. UR build rate remains 1.2% like normal.

• They can be selected for either Heavy or Special.

4. Picking permanent UR ships isn't worth it since they have pity. Better off picking other ships and building pity for permanent UR ships instead.

5. All Wishing Well builds count for UR exchange points at the usual rate.

6. If you already have all the ships listed below, pick ships for collection / tech points, especially from minor factions like NP, RN, FFNF/MNF, SN, DE.

Best Ships to Pick:

Light:

• Kazagumo - Great CV buffer with good damage alongside it.
• Aurora - Great support option against DD / CL bosses.
• Avrora - Great vanguard damage buffer. Has unique augment.
• Yat Sen - Post-retrofit, she is very tanky and has decent damage when used alongside 1+ CN ships.

Heavy:

• San Francisco - Great CA who can tank/support/damage well.
• Tallinn - Great tank CA, also gives NP tech points.

Special:

Submarines:

• Archerfish - Top SS in the game. Provides buffs to other USS SS.
• U-96* - Top SS when with other KMS SS. Provides buffs to other KMS SS.
• U-81 - Top SS in the game.
• U-47 - Top SS in the game.
• Nautilus - Great SS option to use alongside Archerfish in USS compositions.

If you already have good SS:

• Graf Zeppelin - Good mobbing-oriented CV with KMS support. Mainly for tech points.

*These ships are in permanent shops.

if there are any new ships added between last ww and this one that i should mention please ping me cause i changed nothing except the new UR ships at the top

[atomic abyss]

Sam kun
Even Shima shouldn't be in WW...

Let alone uvh

[vale spindle]

whens the cutoff

[atomic abyss]

21 May, the previous wishing well

[vale spindle]

oh huh

[atomic abyss]

Anything before Alsace event

Sam, why is UvH even in there

[blissful hamlet]

will princeton be on wishing well?

[atomic abyss]

Shima I can understand, the fuck is UvH there

Princeton should be there this time

[blissful hamlet]

[limber laurel]

who ghostpinged me in gph

[finite crag]

this guy

[limber laurel]

oh that dumdum

[sleek spade]

Should I spend BIG CUBES on wishing well for archerfish? I got 979 cubes.

Does it count towards UR selection?

[wind hazel]

up to you really, probably just 3 daily after you're done with event

[desert trellis]

hello i want to ask what regional servers do this game have (such as cn, en, jp and more)

[finite crag]

the big 3 are all up to date cn en jp

[brave blade]

i forgot to get the daily cube from hard mode... oops.

[finite crag]

its 1 cube dont lose sleep over it

[wind hazel]

should be just 5: global, china, japan, taiwan, korea

[finite crag]

tw and kr are just sad

[desert trellis]

why?

[finite crag]

very behind

[desert trellis]

how about hong kong, is there a specific server for that?

[sleek spade]

are the new ships this event any good or just collection?

[vernal edge]

Its a perma banner, literally no point to splurge. Might as well wait for SS medal exchange, unless you need the fish right here and right now. Also next-next banner may be high value since its jp anni

[brave blade]

let them cook

[wind hazel]

that's the taiwan HQ iirc

[sleek spade]

mmmmmm

[desert trellis]

oh well i can certainly feel that

[wind hazel]

you can't exchange archerfish

[plain saffron]

If archerfish in medal no need to gamble

[desert trellis]

is there a discord server for tw servers?

[sleek spade]

is she even in SS medal exchange?

[atomic abyss]

There is no official discord for ANY of the other servers

[plain saffron]

I would do 3 per day

[desert trellis]

inofficial ones?

[vernal edge]

No. Oh well

[atomic abyss]

Unofficial I don't know lol

[desert trellis]

oh well sad

[atomic abyss]

China doesn't even have discord, Japan wouldn't use discord primarily

[brave blade]

i wonder how the TW community of the game is tho

[desert trellis]

tw tho

[vale spindle]

What ship should I get from the 6th Anniversary Selector?

1. If you are missing multiple ships from this list, choose waifu, or someone who fills a role that you are lacking. Here is a description of all the ships, for reference:

• Sovetskaya Rossiya - Meh flagship damage-oriented BB. Can be a sidegrade / downgrade to other easily accessible options. Mainly for tech points.
• Bismarck* - Meh flagship support-oriented BB best used in KMS fleets. Can be a sidegrade / downgrade to other easily accessible options. Mainly for tech points.
• Shoukaku* - Good support-oriented CV in IJN CV fleets. Can be a sidegrade / downgrade to other easily accessible options.
• Bremerton* - Good damage CA with enough bulk to mob tank. Can be a sidegrade to other easily accessible options.
• Pola - Good damage CA with enough bulk to mob tank. Can be a sidegrade to other easily accessible options. Mainly for tech points.
• Jeanne d'Arc* - Great support-oriented CL, helps keep your Vanguard Fleet alive.
• Sirius* - Great support CL, best used in CV fleets to support CVs.
• Reno - Good support CL, best used as an AA support. Can be a sidegrade / downgrade to other easily accessible options.

*These ships are available from permanent sources (check Wiki for exact details), so they are lower priority compared to other options.

2. If you are missing one of the ships in the ticket, just pick the chosen one.

3. If you have all of the ships above, pick the ship who isn't at max limit break in your dock. That saves a bulin to limit break.

4. If you have all of the ships above at max limit break, either spend it on a ship you already have to save bulins, or save the ticket in your depot for a rainy day, your choice.

made by samheart564

[plain saffron]

TW community exist?

[brave blade]

they're probably nice people

[crisp estuary]

Holy text spam

[atomic abyss]

It's probably very small group

[desert trellis]

welp i guess i fall in that server cuz theres no other way for me to play the game

[plain saffron]

WW guide doko

[desert trellis]

i cant buy scheisse in en servers funny enough due to regional differences

[plain saffron]

You can play EN, but hard to whale

[finite crag]

you dont need to buy anything

[atomic abyss]

This game is incredibly f2p friendly

[finite crag]

and i argue it would be a better experience playing the superior version

[desert trellis]

i know, just sayin

[crisp estuary]

There's no strong CA in default construction pool?

[desert trellis]

and i just started the en server journey like a day

and its now well in maintenance

[atomic abyss]

San Fran is the only notable one iirc

[finite crag]

youre about to get the anni gifts aswell migth aswell just stick with en

[vernal edge]

Not even via proxy? Giftcards?

[brave blade]

won't he get the gifts on TW eventually tho?

[atomic abyss]

You can whale in EN via the yostar website

[desert trellis]

nope, i wanna speed up my progress a bit but welp i guess no

[crisp estuary]