gameplay-help

[sweet delta]

Lacky U

[cobalt rapids]

[whole crypt]

Mk7 is basically an upgrade regardless, but the idea is mainly whether you need to craft anything that has more impact over making a Mk7 first if your crafting materials are limited

[plain saffron]

Smh not watching vid i sent

[whole crypt]

probably wasn't around when you stuck it up

[cursive lark]

I have 4 wyverns already, I guess I'll make so I have 3 of those then

[sweet delta]

Does this message mean the enhancement fodder is gone

[boreal wagon]

it usually means ur client wasnt told they were used already (aka the ships dont exist anymore but they did contribute before, classic desync)

[haughty dust]

Besides Haku, Mogador, and eventually Kearsarge for at least the top two portions of the Fleet Tech Tracker. Are any of these other ships important to get to 120 or 125 at some point?

I think I finished adding my entire current dock to the website.

I could show it the other way but I like the icon version better.

[whole crypt]

just wait for more rainbows if you're not sure, whether any lower rarity ships are worth the investment, you'll be short of arrays for quite a while early on anyway

[haughty dust]

ok. Well speaking of rainbows. One moment these are my UR ships currently.

[whole crypt]

all of those are basically safe to 125 besides Warspite, you're basically looking at ships that will be used for ch14/15 or your OS/showdown boss fleets

start with main fleet, then tanks

[haughty dust]

Should I get Drake or any PR 1-3 ship at some point to help with Chapter 14 or 15 at some point?

[whole crypt]

I'd say except Plymouth but I doubt you'll be able to enhance her to d30 soon enough

[haughty dust]

What do you look for if it is a tank ship?

[haughty dust]

Well working on unlocking Brest rn

[whole crypt]

Agir and Guam are safe bets, probably Anchorage too

unlocking isn't really the issue, your DRs are still going to be really shit around d15 or 20 even if they're 125

Plymouth doesn't get her last gun mount before d30

[haughty dust]

What about Shinano or Alsace or after I finish Mogador either Vanguard or Shimakaze?

[whole crypt]

Shinano and Alsace should be ahead of Mogador even

[haughty dust]

well mainly just trying to max limit break Mogador right now. Then not sure if I need to do in terms of star rank Vanguard or Shimakaze next. Mogador is just the next closest non DR ship to mlb.

[whole crypt]

well if you're short on UR bulins might also want to just wait and see what JP anniv brings

[haughty dust]

yeah working on getting the next 1 of 2 for Mogador atm. Saving up. Since she is the next closest compared with Vanguard and Shimakaze

[silk helm]

who the best between: Reno, Bremerton, Sirius, Shoukaku, Bismarck, Sovetskaya Rossiya, Jeanne d'Arc and Pola

[hollow gust]

Jeanne and Sirius last the longest , Sirius is obtained in medal tho

[silk helm]

what do you mean by last the longest 🤨

[hollow gust]

They are used in endgame

[silk helm]

thanks for clarifying

is this gun good for aa? i dont see it on the gear lab priority list

[atomic abyss]

not that i recall

[silk helm]

okay, its listed as the 3rd best for takao according to the ectl

guess i won't craft it

[dawn quarry]

I can't manage to find any other ship?

[soft raft]

it's hyperniche
barely worth crafting

[soft raft]

If this is Hard mode, turn off clearing mode
clearing mode on Hard mode only spawns the boss

[dawn quarry]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

;-; thanks lol .

[sweet delta]

It's a worse Gerat58, and I don't see people using gerat 58

[silk helm]

whats a good gold aa for takao?

any of these?

[sweet delta]

Twin 90 for AA or 134 for AAn't

[silk helm]

okay thanks

[trim patio]

Any important thing to note for a starter?

[keen sable]

Besides use Pennsylvania, unicorn, someone, Portland, Helena, laffey/other starter? Not particularly. Don't use gems unless you know what you are doing.

[icy cave]

using sirius and kazagumo for opsi boss fleet, how should i gear them?

[silk helm]

This okay?

[soft raft]

for what content?

[silk helm]

12-1

[soft raft]

prob safer to replace the rocket fighter with a regular one

[silk helm]

The bf109?

[tame jungle]

yea

[silk helm]

ty

[sonic cedar]

Hello not sure if this the right channel to ask but did this game have a feature where your double bonus on packs reset every year?

[forest palm]

gem bonus resets ever anniversary, yes

[sonic cedar]

Thanks

[ornate narwhal]

what lvl are the enemies in chapter 9?

[tame jungle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_9 you can check here

[ornate narwhal]

why am i supposed to farm chapter 9?

[candid meteor]

i mean you should try to farm chapter 12 but from chapter 9 and onward maps are oil capped

[ornate narwhal]

what does that mean?

[candid meteor]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[ornate narwhal]

ah ok

when does the maintenance start and end?

[tame jungle]

check #game-news

[forest palm]

36 hrs 28 mins is when maint starts, and will likely go for about 8 hrs after that

[dawn quarry]

Is anniversary tomorrow?? If it is. Would it be best if I buy gem pack today. So it reset tomorrow?

[forest palm]

[tame jungle]

read the message above yours :3

[dawn quarry]

Anniversary = start of school

[forest palm]

[delicate elk]

So the anniversary hasn’t started yet

I have time!

My account is old and ancient ill show yall here when downloading is done

[short wagon]

I have anchorage, monarch, saint louis, fdg. whos next

[atomic abyss]

august van parseval

[keen sable]

9 is terrible actually. Try war archives

But is better than anything without cost limit and you can't get to 12 except through 9

[novel solstice]

9 is significantly better than 8 or below in terms of xp and coin per oil due to the oil cap.

But move on from it as fast as possible, you're better off farming 12 if you can.

[tropic tusk]

W13-4 or w14-1 better for money?

[cobalt rapids]

13-4

[tropic tusk]

Ok thx

[bold salmon]

is halford good for w15?

[atomic abyss]

she's not an AA carry, she's not a tank, so no

DDs outside laff2 just suck in w15

[ionic bramble]

does Akagi idol xp counts toward pr?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[eternal basalt]

Yes, buy your gems BEFORE the patch the 15th

[undone plover]

Check u still have the double gem bonus

[left cedar]

btw, FdG Skin cames with patch 15 ? or after ?

[eternal basalt]

15th

[wide marsh]

Should I start grinding 13-1 or keep with 12-1/4 if I need coins?

[undone plover]

If u are still levelling backline tech ships stay in 12

[left cedar]

if coins them 13-4 its a option, but W13 cuts alot of shit ships that can be lvled

so if u need lvl ships and coins them 12-4

[cobalt rapids]

13-1 is pretty much the same as 12-4 anywayu

[undone plover]

If I level hinden from 120 to 125
And decent level 105-110 ships Can I run 13-4 with no unicorn?

[jaunty vault]

doubt

[wide marsh]

I love Uni but she have the same issue starter Long I have. Her voice is annoying.

[jaunty vault]

why are you playing with voice on

[wide marsh]

Still newb

[jaunty vault]

opinion rejected

[cobalt rapids]

pray for percy then

[left cedar]

pray for Klaudia ... she is better than percy imo

[wide marsh]

Any way to keep them silent during missions but let them talk as secretary?

[cursive lark]

Nah 13 is hell, when I accidentally farm 13 unstead of 12, I can't even remember 13 had THAT many planes

[jaunty vault]

mute and unmute

[left cedar]

her DPS is behind Uni cuz no preload ... but she does heal

[eternal basalt]

She will never return

[cobalt rapids]

I meant for coins

[left cedar]

sad so, cuz klaudia its similar to Uni just less heal per airstrike and less dps cuz no preload

[cobalt rapids]

i think klaudia caught up to uni in 2-3 strikes

[eager mulch]

painleve gaming

[cobalt rapids]

painleve gaming

[cursive lark]

Double unicorn says hello

[wide marsh]

Did I hear "go farm fox mines"?

[cursive lark]

Eventually one will have to farm every map-exclusive ship

[jaunty vault]

nah, id win

[steel grotto]

how should i approach gear lab crafting? because ive read that ectl ranks gear based on best general usage but people have told me to not necessarily follow it, so i read the ecgc equipment guide as suggested but i got intimidated by it afraid that i might waste resources on a gun i might not get the most use out of it

idk worst case i just hoard resources the next few months until i craft something

[jaunty vault]

hoarding is nice

[left cedar]

imo, go crafting as u need

[cursive lark]

I would hoard too until I need something

[worldly pewter]

hoarding will make u not craft good gear

[left cedar]

in some time ur needs will be less and u will be hoarding asf

[worldly pewter]

the standard routing is 2 wyverns

[cobalt rapids]

for electric components ull want 2-3 wyvers = 2 junkers > 2 ryuusei in depot if u didnt already got em > 1-3 flaps > 1-2 457 in depot
UR selectors should first be spent on 2-3 wyverns > 1-2 mk 7 > 1-2 100kais
UR test reports is 1-2 457 in depot > w.e
gold test reports is a few flaps >= ~2 155kai > 1-2 457 in depot > rest
the other u can check /gearlab prio coz mats are more abundant/not high prios

[thorn tartan]

what gear is worth getting in the proto shop for s4?

[worldly pewter]

S4 ?

[thorn tartan]

i see that season 4 prints are available

[worldly pewter]

PR4 is tenrai

[left cedar]

kinda, dont buy PR Gears ... exceptions if u have tons of PRs in D30 or FS5 and constantly producing protocores

UR Gears its a thing for protos

[undone plover]

renhex do you actually need 2 georgia guns from the gear lab? assuming u get 1 in protoshop

[eager mulch]

Proto shop has higher priority for tenrai

[cobalt rapids]

i shouldve specified in depot for all

[eager mulch]

[outer kernel]

what are some good free emulator options for windows and mac?

[thorn tartan]

I already bought the 50 tenrai. wish i could get more somehow

so the PR4 prints are obsolete?

[atomic abyss]

mac
emulators

[reef flume]

No

[atomic abyss]

anyways, bluestacks or ldplayer for windows

[ornate narwhal]

how long would it take to get all URs?

[tame jungle]

mb i thought this was general

[worldly pewter]

yes they are because u should focus IV for until it becomes non priority anymore

[atomic abyss]

2 years - the time it'll take for them to rerun for the newest ones

[ornate narwhal]

and the old ones that got their reruns will be added to the standard pools by then?

[atomic abyss]

those take around a year so yeah

[ornate narwhal]

ok

[jaunty vault]

2 or more for archives

[ornate narwhal]

what are archives?

[thorn tartan]

I got the high heels in the archives which was really useful. Is there anything else gearwise you recommend from the archives?>

[undone plover]

nah not worth farming archives for gear

[candid meteor]

use play cover for mac

[novel solstice]

I use bluestacks on PC, it's fine.

[ornate narwhal]

should i spend any cubes on light banner just to get more units?

[wispy pendant]

no, one light a day until a special event, and then pull on that event

[atomic abyss]

UR events

[ornate narwhal]

this is all i got rn

i’m stuck on chapter 4

[wispy pendant]

in general, save for 400 cubes minimum for upcoming UR events, there are 4 new ones a year and 4 reruns a year. @ornate narwhal

[wispy pendant]

your being stuck is more about not knowing what to do and less about having ships

[ornate narwhal]

got it

[soft raft]

eh you're fine
give this a read too btw https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[ebon oxide]

You’ll want to use Portland

[ornate narwhal]

i am

[wispy pendant]

limit break your ships

[soft raft]

he's saying as in actually being in your fleet

[old lark]

Are there any W14-15 updated guides with recommended fleets? W14-4 is beating me over and over and I'm starting to not be sure how to tackle it

[ornate narwhal]

i just put her in for commissions bc gems

[soft raft]

there's a guide for W15, and as for W14 besides reverse engineering W15 fleets if you're able to, just post your dock in a thread

[ornate narwhal]

i am using her

[soft raft]

surely you didnt have to physically take her out of the fleet but alright

[wispy pendant]

portland is good, she is even better after retrofit, you need to limit break her and lvl her up for beginner missions anyway

[worldly pewter]

that is more benching her

[ornate narwhal]

i did bc i don’t have any lvl 12 or higher characters besides in my team

[ornate narwhal]

im not fighting until she’s done with the commission

[old lark]

To sum up, I have everything except the ships that were released between the Grorizia and Alsace events (but I do have those)

[worldly pewter]

yeah next time try to not put ur main ships in the commissions

[soft raft]

that doesnt really help much
post your dock in a thread so we have a accurate idea of what you have and what state they're in (like are they MLB? what lvl are they? etc etc)

[old lark]

Oh, oke

[ebon oxide]

@ornate narwhal might be a gear problem. You could farm 3-2 for some recommended gear while gaining XP at the same time

[ornate narwhal]

i didn’t have a choice bc i need the gems, but i understand im working on lvling up my other units

[atomic abyss]

gem comms hardly give gems

it's not a guarantee

[ornate narwhal]

oh

[ebon oxide]

But don’t farm a stage just for the purpose of getting gear. Always have a second important objective. Cuz decent gear you can also get in tech boxes over 1-2 weeks.

[wispy pendant]

you'll eventually have a stockpile of exp books you could use to level up a ship easily to lvl 12

[undone plover]

u can send them on 1-2 hour comms while u wait for morale to recover that is fine
but if u can grind with them first

U will soon have enough ships to send to comms and this wont be an issue

[old lark]

Dock

[south gull]

how do you think, will there be anniversary stages requiring 60 commander lvl? i'm so over grind, but if it most likely will have,,,,

[candid meteor]

im pretty sure eveent stages dont require commander levels ever

[undone plover]

Event stages are not commander level gated

[south gull]

thank god

what is recommended level for newbie team units(prtland, unicorn ...)?

[undone plover]

But u want your ships at around level 100 at least to be able to grind the D1 map assuming old event formats

[atomic abyss]

they will likely hit 120

your newbie team lasts a very long time

[ebon oxide]

2 small tips for commission: for now, get at least 1 of each ship type (CV, BB, CL, etc…) to lvl 30+ thru commissions. Also, prioritize German (KMS) ships as you’ll need those for shipyard tech points later on.

[south gull]

i know, but. if 100 is recommended, then i'm lacking 20-30 levels and need to grind more 😭

[ebon oxide]

Tech point contributors = ship unlock, max limit break, and reaching level 125

[atomic abyss]

reaching 120*

[ebon oxide]

Sorry, yes 120

[atomic abyss]

it's not like you have anything better so

[ornate narwhal]

is this team good? (portland is the empty spot)

[candid meteor]

move portland to left most spot firstly when you put her in

[ebon oxide]

Yeah for now, next to be replaced is Repulse. If you have Shouhou or Saratoga from buying any gem top-up.

[undone plover]

U might have better options than repulse

I think some ppl suggest ranger if u have her

[ornate narwhal]

these r all my units

i don’t have much

[ornate narwhal]

i don’t think i have her

[atomic abyss]

ranger is right there

[ornate narwhal]

OMG IM SO BLIND

sorry 😦

[undone plover]

U would replace her soon
But maybe she gives u some funny meme fights for the time being

[worldly pewter]

i replaced ranger in w8

[undone plover]

U can replace her with saratoga/nelson/enty if/when u get them

[ornate narwhal]

ok

[ebon oxide]

kinda sad my medal shop only has CAs this month

but yeah, if it offers BBs or CVs, then you have good picks there.

[ornate narwhal]

how rare are gems?

[ebon oxide]

Enterprise, Hood, I forget who else is good from there

[atomic abyss]

as an f2p, your main sources are from 3*-ing maps and collection

as such skins are for 🐳 s

gems are used for 3rd dorm slot, 2nd floor and dock slots as an f2p

[ornate narwhal]

ok

so how many do i get in total?

[candid meteor]

around 6k

[ebon oxide]

and to get medals, do not feed blue or higher ships into enhancing ships. instead, retire them under 'build' menu. only feed white ships into ship enhancement

[warm latch]

dorm and dock space are the only things f2p should spend gems on

[ebon oxide]

dorm to 3 slots, then dock space. good plan?

[candid meteor]

i would also get 2nd floor

[ornate narwhal]

i just got gems from my commission

[wispy pendant]

use portland again now

[ornate narwhal]

yep she’s back on my team!

[delicate elk]

Uhhh old time shit newbie’ back to playing here what’s the recommended server? For English American players like me?

[soft raft]

if you still have a account, whatever server that account was on
There's no real "Best server"

now if you had asked this question like a year ago we would've said Little Enty since it had a special server launch event, but nowadays the only major differences is how many tryhards are there that will speedrun a raid to 0% HP

[undone plover]

If u can recover your old account it will be best tbh

[delicate elk]

How can i possibly make a comeback with my small unit team and low resources?

I don’t have enough to survive the event

[soft raft]

you gotta just grind grind grind
the game isnt a sprint, it's a marathon

[undone plover]

When u come back u get a returnee event
It should give more resources than just starting an account unless I am mistaken

[delicate elk]

I kinda had to quit due to life situations and i deleted the app just recently due to no storage

[undone plover]

So unless u used your gems buying worthless stuff it is better to just pick up where u left off

[soft raft]

(Provided you binded your account to Yostar and/or twitter, of course)

[undone plover]

Yeah ofc if u didnt bind/cant recover acc just start fresh no worries

[delicate elk]

I don’t think i had twitter to complicated and if it was linked to facebook 🤣 it’s been giving me problems for everything

So yeahhhh im starting new

[wispy pendant]

Lil enty

[soft raft]

rip
may as well give this a read then https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[delicate elk]

Thanks

[wispy pendant]

I’m on amagi

[undone plover]

Probably start somewhere they have BB/CV in medal
Lil E is double CA

[steel grotto]

what i didnt know shop was different per server

[soft raft]

None of them have BB lmao

[undone plover]

Washington/avrora/lexington have CV this month

[steel grotto]

washington stuck with double cv is sad

[wispy pendant]

Amagi has this now

[delicate elk]

So is any server getting a big hit advantage right now for newbie’s cause that would be perfect

[wispy pendant]

Is this in wiki? What is it filed under?

[soft raft]

if you can afford it within the month, Hood (BB) and Enterprise (CV) are really solid SRs that will last you quite a while
so if you think you can get 80 medals before the month passes, you can do Washington, Lexington, or Avrora to get Enterprise

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Medal_Shop

[undone plover]

I think it is a thorin initiative

CL would be great yeah

[delicate elk]

Any server?

[undone plover]

The last line mentions the 3 worth starting in
Avrora might be best since u can get enty + later san diego if you can get enough medals

[eternal basalt]

Just note these servers are the oldest, so don't expect to win in PvP for 2.5 years

[ebon oxide]

man, I really chose the worst combination of starting month and server....

unless there's also no good DD. Mine has CA, CA

[eternal basalt]

You're unlikely to get 80 excess medals in month #1

[undone plover]

It is a very minor bonus tbh
Wont matter much in the long run

[ebon oxide]

I used 160 already on 2 bulins, I guess it's the newbie binge-playing habit I have

[lone knoll]

hi! my frontline is starting to die at wolrd 10 ish when I reach boss fleat, I deal like no damage

[wispy pendant]

don't single fleet anymore, make a boss fleet

[lone knoll]

like this?

ofc with levels

[wispy pendant]

I mean, yeah, a second fleet that you can use with full ammo

[eternal basalt]

Pref. the other way around

[lone knoll]

yeah that helps a lot

[lone knoll]

should I use my 2nd fleetnffor mobbing then? unicorn should not be on boss fleet right?

[eager mulch]

i see a lv 125 laffey

[wispy pendant]

unicorn on mob fleet, a somewhat capable boss fleet... add adequate gear and levels, and you're gold

[lone knoll]

I really like her ist my first unit that I like,, I wont 125 anyone soon

[lone knoll]

so the 2nd team I shared its bad for bossing... would entreprise fix that?

• portland (i use another tank for mob)

[wispy pendant]

just use a fleet that can survive a battle with the boss at lvl 102, so that fleet should be around lvl 100 avg, or there abouts. Don't think that hard about it.

[lone knoll]

and no healher right? im lacking in backline uits

[wispy pendant]

boss fleet doesn't need a healer

[lone knoll]

Yeah I read about it on the guide

nelson indomitable and saratoga seems decent for backline no?

[eternal basalt]

[lone knoll]

so if I want to level these units up, where should I do it? do they get xp if they die?

9-1 and put on laffey? she can prob carry

[eternal basalt]

If dead no, unless in Operation Siren

[lone knoll]

rip

[wispy pendant]

indom works, but she's more for AA, Nelson and Saratoga are good generalists. Sara wants her aug

[eternal basalt]

Don't use 125 in mobfleet

[lone knoll]

then It has to be easy content like world 8 or 7

[lone knoll]

why is that? excess xp goes to books no?

[wispy pendant]

better to level up ships in your "mob" fleet and put ships you've already leveled up in your "boss" fleet

[eternal basalt]

Yes, but the ship itself is still maxed

[lone knoll]

best ships -> boss fleet then

[eternal basalt]

100+ goes to books

[wispy pendant]

uh, they just need to survive one battle, if that requires your "best" then so be it

[lone knoll]

okay then Ill use unicorn + some bad units hoping they carry on world 8-1(mobbing for xp)

[wispy pendant]

in general, use unicorn in mob fleet, she is a preloader with a preloaded heal... kind of a waste on boss fleet

[lone knoll]

yes yes I get that, i just dont have any decent alterantives leveled

I will level them then

[wispy pendant]

you're getting it, unicorn is your babysitter to level up other ships

[eternal basalt]

Put her in mobflleet and she'll be fine

Though she doesn't look retro''ed

[lone knoll]

sdhe is

so like this? AND I JUST SPAM 7-1 OR SOMETHIGN LIKE THAT?wtf sorry caps

[wispy pendant]

Her regular skin looks like this. His looks retroed.

[eternal basalt]

Try it at world 10

[lone knoll]

it 100% wont work im dying with my normal fleet

[eager mulch]

do 9-1 then

[wispy pendant]

sure, yuudachi isn't good until you retro her tho.

[eternal basalt]

But now you have 2 fleets

[wispy pendant]

you definitely want to farm with oil cap, so try 9-1 or higher

[lone knoll]

I will retro her eventually, I think sara and nelson are better early

[wispy pendant]

they are, and cheaper

[lone knoll]

yup that is one main reason im not focusing on her

I only put her on the fleet since I saw that she's very good post retro and a rare drop

I got her on my first clear so why not since im missing units

[wispy pendant]

hope you eventually get some use out of her 😄

[lone knoll]

yes yes, one more question

I have portland retro, I saw that shes good on boss fleet. Who do you sugest I put on mob fleet meanwhile? phenix?

only have phoenix

so these should work (minus the 2nd fleet missing spot, im hoping the free unit from the new event can will that spot)

[undone plover]

honestly easier if u post your whole dock
but make a thread so it doesnt clutter the chat

[lone knoll]

I have one already how do I tag it

[undone plover]

just right click and copy link on PC

[lone knoll]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1272033196275404912

[delicate elk]

Question does all servers have the latest units? Before i start

[cobalt rapids]

all servers are synchronized but because of some servers launch dates it is physically impossible for players to have ships released pre launch day that have not rerun yet

[delicate elk]

Ok so that means it’s not gonna affect new players no matter which they join?

[cobalt rapids]

exactly

[sonic arch]

How does the AA work on ships without AA slots like carriers and stuff like Halford?

[delicate elk]

So if i pick the new server or the hot listed its good? Cause i clearly didn’t a yostar account 🤣

[cobalt rapids]

if they dont have any ghost guns then they simply dont contribute to aa and AA remains a stat for pure anti air dmg reduction calcs

[sonic arch]

Fighter interception scale with aviation or AA?

[cobalt rapids]

u can pick any server, idk the criteria for hot servers but its prob the newer ones, maybe idk

u might want to pick between washington/avrora/lexington because better medal rotation for this month tho

[delicate elk]

Good im going lexi then

[fathom sable]

Keep?

[delicate elk]

Thank you so much

[cobalt rapids]

vanguard cats arent worth raising

[fathom sable]

BBs and CVs then?

[dawn crest]

yep

[cobalt rapids]

and subs

[undone plover]

since I am a zoomer and still dont have poi
how good is she pre retro? worse than post-retro starters?

[delicate elk]

Who is best to start my new account?

[cobalt rapids]

they are pretty much the same, pick the one u like

[cobalt rapids]

pretty much

shes like a pre retro aya

[echo wren]

which of these do rn from lab

i have only these

[cobalt rapids]

do like 2 wyverns then

[soft raft]

2-3 Wyverns first
then basically whatever else you need

[fathom sable]

Trying to raise 2 subs here. How about these 2?

[echo wren]

okay thanks

[cobalt rapids]

ul want all the rld talents for subs

[sweet delta]

U can't use two steels on one fleet

[fathom sable]

Oh right...

[cobalt rapids]

so u can lvl the 2nd in the mean time

[keen sable]

I think you want washington

[cobalt rapids]

till u get a better steel starter

[keen sable]

Double cv medal shop stonk

[delicate elk]

I forgot to ask isn’t there a solid site you use to easily check all the units for this game?

[eager mulch]

my dock

[cobalt rapids]

besides turtle's dock theres wiki which has all the ships and info for them or lists of ships if needed

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Azur_Lane_Wiki

[eager mulch]

im cooper

[cobalt rapids]

not my cooper

[inland shoal]

Time to ban both alts

[light trail]

which would be the best to finish first? now that we have nakhimov who would benefit from chkalov's cc, would she be the best choice to have done soonest?

[left cedar]

the one with more use from this options are Harbin, but she is kinda situational or sub optimal since others URs ships do better than her mostly of times ...

[light trail]

Also, once im done with Plymouth, are kearsarge, shimanto, and hindenburg worth focusing on over napoli or nakhimov?

[left cedar]

PS: any PR/DR ship with low or lacking D30 or FS5 its kinda quite bad ... specially Main ships

[hollow hollow]

Who should be my 3rd body for this besides alsace and painleve

Grinding Flandre

[forest palm]

Bearn would work

Bearn, Strasbourg, Clemenceau, Richelieu, Bart, Lyon all have value

[hollow hollow]

Yeah, but only Alsace has skill ups. I'll be dumping books to push them to 100 and grind 12-1

[viscid swift]

you don't need level 100 or skills leveled to grind in 12-1

I regularly do it with ships less than level 100 and no skills leveled

[forest palm]

who has the time to level up purple, or lower shiters

[hollow hollow]

bern went down, guess is hsould go beyond level 70 and give her a tool box over a steam piston

[delicate elk]

I have enough for newbie team building anyone here have a suggestion

[soft raft]

Have you looked at the newbie guide i linked yet?
follow the fleet it reccomends

[delicate elk]

Ah right 😵‍💫im smol brained

[stark quiver]

you can get the other reccomended ships in guild shop

[hollow hollow]

unicorn and portland will guide you with their collective little sister encouragement and big sister doting

[vague fable]

what equpiment should I farm from maps , i have unlocked everything up to 10-4

[whole crypt]

you shouldn't farm equipment from maps, period

[vague fable]

max oil , what to do with it

[whole crypt]

push for 11 then 12

[hollow hollow]

or do some WA for ships if you need tech

[whole crypt]

that shouldn't take precedence over progression

[tame jungle]

W12 first

[vague fable]

alright , what equipment are the best ?

[hollow hollow]

I'm pushing 14 right now but it's become more "i want to grind more ships" for me. Mostly cause I know when I do hit 15 I'm going to need my support cvs up at 125 and they jsut aren't there right now

[whole crypt]

most of the best equipment is going to be research and gear lab

[whole crypt]

and that why most player spend years just grinding in ch12 after they get there

[left cedar]

me with almost 6y of gamming and still spend times in W12 farming when i have to grind new ships

[whole crypt]

me with almost 7 years and I'm still doing 12-1 this very moment

[vague fable]

do I need to manual search by clicking everytime the girls win a battle until I have auto search with 100% exploration rate

[hollow hollow]

depends on the ship but general rule of thumb is rainbow is almost always a bis for every ship without any special skills.

406mk6 or champy gun for bb/bc, gold hellcats and purple helldivers, torp bombers vary for mob or boss.
steering gear on your CA/CB tank in the vanguard, toolboxes in aux slots are general purpose filler for durability.

[whole crypt]

that's called clearing the stage, yes

and that's why you just throw up the equipment guide instead

[hollow hollow]

i dont have that saved on my phone

[viscid swift]

best in slot as a concept doesn't really apply to AL because what's best is almost always situationally dependent

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[eager mulch]

z-flag is definitely not bis

[forest palm]

gotta inflate your non existent power ego

[hollow hollow]

z flag is special circumstance lbf

[eager mulch]

what else is included in the $1 daily pack with 1200 oil

1 cube innit?

halford, dev30

[left cedar]

coping in Mikasa seens hard than me coping in my Thurin hitting harder than Vang ...

[eager mulch]

takes up aa gun slot like Hindenburg 3rd main gun

[viscid swift]

Dev 10 actually

[eager mulch]

I didn’t look because I’d never look at a ship unless they’re dev 30

[left cedar]

i got 3 iirc

yeah, 3 Hindy Gun, 2 of them +13 and 1 +10

when its about CA Guns probally i'm the guy that have more than any1

[hollow hollow]

z23kai with 3 gun slots

[viscid swift]

san Martihno has 6

[eager mulch]

golden hind does have 6 main gun mounts

[left cedar]

also i test Gold in W14, she can Tank

[hollow hollow]

nimikai with 3 +13 plymouth guns

[viscid swift]

Z23 only has 2 main gun mounts

[left cedar]

i'm w8 4 ply guns in Gearlab to drow my depot in Plyguns for my waifu BBs

[viscid swift]

Smh not just grinding them from pr5

[whole crypt]

there's just not enough

[left cedar]

need some La-9 ... and of course finish my Neko D30 and oath her
nya

[hollow hollow]

we were talking about ships with extra slot options

[viscid swift]

What

[whole crypt]

and Nimi has to do with that how?

[hollow hollow]

also nimi doesn't have mgm+1

[viscid swift]

Yes, that's 2 main gun mounts not 3

[hollow hollow]

what are you even saying

[left cedar]

nimi have more options sinse she can equip CL Guns, wut for her is bad mostly of the cases ...

[viscid swift]

I'm saying z23 has 2 main gun mounts not 3 as you say

[whole crypt]

Nimi has 1 main gun mount

[hollow hollow]

she has 1

she can fit dd/cl but she doesn't get two of them

[whole crypt]

this whole discussion is ??????????

[left cedar]

1 slot with +1 MGM wut make 2 Gun Mounts
Hindy have 3 cuz her swapable in 3rd slot

[stark quiver]

speculation/what they want

[whole crypt]

Nimi doesn't have +MGM

[viscid swift]

Well, that's me to off myself

[whole crypt]

none of the starters do

[viscid swift]

Anyways moving on

[whole crypt]

number of mounts aside Nimi has very little business using q152

[left cedar]

yo, how much cost L2D nowadys ? 1200 ?

[stark quiver]

1k+

[whole crypt]

1180 or something

[stark quiver]

less than 1.3 i think

[hollow hollow]

12 sounds righ

[grizzled sundial]

I want to make Roon fire even faster , aside from vanguard reload skill and her own skill , is there any ship that buff vanguard reload ?

[light trail]

should i skip to pr7 and focus on nya or napoli after finishing ply

[whole crypt]

yes but it's pointless

[keen sable]

same as always? just depends how many features they add to it

[grizzled sundial]

yeah yeah unfortunately i am not meta chasing guy so i am doing it for the giggle

[whole crypt]

I think Unicorn is the only ship that does it but you probably won't even see a difference

[fresh hamlet]

should i bother

[keen sable]

you peeps sortie roon without leipzig? i would be terrified to be alone with roon

[soft raft]

a single Triple 410 for Musashi
and that's really it

[whole crypt]

right gun is good for Musashi, left is okay as a BB secondary but it probably means you're focusing on the wrong research series

[viscid swift]

You're not gonna notice a practical difference even if you go all in and you will definitely feel the consequences

[grizzled sundial]

The consequence of what ? going your own pace instead of sticking to the paper ?

[whole crypt]

the consequence of making bad teams/poor gearing and realizing it's becoming a liability to progression

[keen sable]

i don't mind helping you do stupid things

[light trail]

i think they mean you will see bullets become paper

[grizzled sundial]

Not that i dislike meta , but sometime i need to change gameplay a bit

[viscid swift]

The consequences of running no defensive auxes in favor of 2 autoloader for a very minimal difference in relaod

[finite crag]

You literally wont notice a difference

[whole crypt]

I mean if you're done with progression and just looking for things to muck around with sure

[left cedar]

i think is easier notice a buff in Eugen than in Roon sinse she cant focus in one type of ammo and she pretty much nerf herself in dmg doing it ...
also Room exist if u wanna see Roon hitting hard

[hollow hollow]

tank / mainz / leipzig is probably your best IB vang setup tbh. tank can be agir, roon, roonmu, fred carl

[left cedar]

probally i will do something like
Agir/Emden/Hindy

as sub option u can go
Bis/Bis2/wutever
FC/Emden/Hindy
and see ur Hindy hitting hard

[whole crypt]

well you will notice the difference if you hold a stopwatch in front of your screen and see Roon shoot 0.3s faster

[viscid swift]

Like, much wow

[light trail]

opinions btw? or at least finish kearsarge before pr7?

[whole crypt]

it's actually like 10% faster if you hold a stopwatch in front of your screen

[hollow hollow]

ah right. emden and hindy exist... mine aren't maxed yet so i haven't used them

i think hindy is at 22 for me

[whole crypt]

but will you notice a practical difference in DPS? probably not

[hollow hollow]

roon's reload skill only really shines if you have a long af boss fight and you're already buffing her reloads.

[finite crag]

It doesnt shine

[whole crypt]

if Roon's skill has had enough time to ramp up then your fight has gone on for too long

[left cedar]

if u wanna buff Roon to hit hard ... wut it will be hard to happen, do something like

Bis/Bis2
FC/Avro/Roon

UvH in other fleet

that it will buff her asf ... but she isnt gona be even near Hindy lvls ...

[keen sable]

doesn't finish 7234 mean finish pr6?

[whole crypt]

Roon screws her own damage with ammo switch anyway so trying to max her DPS is just a waste of time

[left cedar]

as i said early, probally its easier to see Eugen hitting hard than Roon

[keen sable]

you can't make a wet noodle hit hard...

[whole crypt]

you're also making her defenses weaker by not giving her tank suite

[forest palm]

you're really just throwing a gun with high raw damage on ammo switchers

[whole crypt]

when she's supposed to be tanking

[left cedar]

thousand ages ago i did this ... probally nowadays i can do it better

[hollow hollow]

Roon goes ham with unikai+bis1+leipzig

[vague fable]

why is my Ayanami dying in chapter 11

[light trail]

what

[viscid swift]

Have you finished PR4 yet

[soft raft]

What does the rest of the fleet look like? What lvl is she? is she MLB? does she have a fire extingusher equipped?

[whole crypt]

Roon goes ham if the content is too easy

[keen sable]

doesn't finish kearsarge mean finish pr6?

[hollow hollow]

roon also can not eat up your better guns since she switches ammo

[whole crypt]

there's like a range of reasons why a ship could be dying and we can't tell you without looking at comp/gear

[hollow hollow]

give her the gold twin 234 instead of the trip 234

[light trail]

im almost done with haku, then need to finish 10rai #2 (more than halfway there), then finish ply (dev25). im just thinking about the future

[vague fable]

nvm

[whole crypt]

Roon actually wants the best guns because the best guns have the highest raw damage for her to keep working

[vague fable]

shes full health this time, she did die last time though, I think its just her gear which I fixed already. Potentially.

[viscid swift]

finish Brest as well before you leave PR5, as for the future well PR6 fate sims may or may not change things this upcoming update

[light trail]

wouldn't this hypothetical be based on rng

[light trail]

ah right, brest

i wonder how much progress i'll have by the end of the year

[viscid swift]

try not to plan things too far advance in AL, things can always change be it new ships are or augments/retros to existing ships which can in turn change priority

[light trail]

gotcha

[keen sable]

you have some amazing luck to finish kearsarge without finishing any pr

[hollow hollow]

fires almost 2s slower so it does benefit more from all the rld buffs, true, but other ships can use that gun better. because other ships don't gimp that gun damage from swapping ammo.

[whole crypt]

you realize how little her rld buff adds and using a low damage gun doesn't scale her damage?

[hollow hollow]

i'm saying that unless you have the resources to get more than one rainbow 234

[finite crag]

Its silly to talk about roon damage like shes dealing any

[hollow hollow]

you can give her the worse option and not see a huge gap in her performance

[finite crag]

Yea because theres nothing to look at

[whole crypt]

it's all based on the gun's raw DPS, period

[keen sable]

ca gun is precious. that's a first for gph

[left cedar]

dafuk i'm reading rn

[whole crypt]

you see the raw DPS column? that's all that matters when you pick a gun for Roon

so even roon gun is a better choice than cheshire gun

[hollow hollow]

the trip 203? yeah

[left cedar]

kinda Tri 234 its the better cuz Roon swap ammo mod, so 234 have a different raw with her

54 > 53

[rain bobcat]

you will notice more dmg using fumo goldburn than completely bricking with autoloader

[whole crypt]

raw is before mods

[hollow hollow]

i use autoloader on hyuga retro because its a better way to stagger her strikes

[whole crypt]

radar and different guns exist but sure

[rain bobcat]

completely irrelevant endeavor

[left cedar]

dafuk ... Hyuuga dosnt wanna a Autoloader, she wanna bullets to hit harder ...

[whole crypt]

also why Hyuga even for anything you need to consciously stagger for

[left cedar]

Bullets Raw Stats and effects its miles better than Autoladers

[hollow hollow]

im not using hyuga for anything relevant beyond low tier content that doesn't need stats cause everything is a 1 shot anyway

[viscid swift]

then use a Fire Control Radar for that purpose?

[whole crypt]

then stagger doesn't matter

[left cedar]

if u wanna do "low tier content"
them why not finish retroed Yamas ?
she doest better than hyuga kai cuz she gets ALOT OF BUFFS and its quite cheap ...

[hidden smelt]

Any ships that can help me beat world 13?

[left cedar]

u need focus in AA, cuz W13 its all about it, so pretty much alot of CVs and gud AA Guns

[hollow hollow]

sandykai

[hidden smelt]

Alr

[hollow hollow]

im assuming you dont have laf2 or guam

[hidden smelt]

Yeah

[hollow hollow]

monti slaps

[left cedar]

things like Indomi, Impla, Guam, Sandy Kai, Shimanto...
in AA Guns
Gold QBs and Sexy in ur best AA ship
or CN strat with everyone with Roombas

[whole crypt]

Montpelier is not bad but there are better uses of SR resources and augs

[left cedar]

for Planes in CVs things like Flap its the way to go

[hollow hollow]

i say monti because shes just all around a really solid CL

[left cedar]

all around for me its Ply ...
everything worse than her its ... not solid

[hollow hollow]

ply is also cracked af

[forest palm]

literally just grab Sandy ignore retro, slap her augment on like flex seal, boom you have a ship purpose built for 13

[hollow hollow]

why ignore her retro?

[sinful escarp]

mats

[finite crag]

You dont need it if poor

[whole crypt]

Montpelier is rather mediocre at this point and it's a dead end investment for later in the game

[wispy pendant]

why ignore her retro? not like the mats are that hard to get

[left cedar]

for someone that probally hits W13 and pretty much dosnt have tons of resources around, i kinda bet that is alot...

[whole crypt]

ignore in the sense you can use her in 13 without finishing retro if you lack the resources

[forest palm]

• costly to retrofit, can be done later
• doesn't need retrofit for her AA
• highly competent with augment alone

[stoic stirrup]

Edit this to change the output of the custom command 4!

[hollow hollow]

valid

[hollow hollow]

retro gives +15% aa eff and 25% increase to aa, and a guaranteed barrage

[whole crypt]

retrofit is also expensive as fuck and costs a spec core item

[wispy pendant]

i never felt poor or like I wasted anything on retrofitting sandy or yuudachi... I'm unsure what people are talking about it costing a lot.

[sinful escarp]

a random thing, but aside from special build is there any other place to get princeton? (working on tech)

[finite crag]

Youre not everyone playing this game sadly

[wispy pendant]

i'm pretty sure I retrofit sandy and yuudachi before I even got to w12

[whole crypt]

it's not a waste, you just might not have the resources for it when first breaking into 13

[hollow hollow]

same, yuudachi was waiting on the release of the item for me

[whole crypt]

keeping in mind newer players may be delaying a UR to get the item

[sinful escarp]

we are just saying on the "IF" scernario where he doesnt have the mats or resources for retro

[left cedar]

imagine delay a craked UR cuz invest in Sandy Retro

🧠

[forest palm]

that's the thing we work under the assumption that people have less, unless they provide that information

[hollow hollow]

i've been playing since frostfall

[left cedar]

i'm playing since ... idr but somewhere near march 2k19

[hollow hollow]

i have about 14k spec core in the bank and i just bought 3 or 4 bullins to finish off my URs

[finite crag]

Do you want a cookie?

[whole crypt]

yes but it doesn't mean the same is available to every player

[rain bobcat]

[hollow hollow]

im saying ur access is very reasonable

you get 1 ur bullin every month guaranteed

[left cedar]

[sinful escarp]

and not everyone plays this game daily, a lot just plays on events so they lack a lot of resources

[whole crypt]

the "guarantee" is actually 2 on average if you play enough

[keen sable]

shouldn't you just say 2 to help your case?

[whole crypt]

but not everyone hits the cap especially earlier in the game

[keen sable]

those people also miss ur so no biggie

[left cedar]

i hard on it ...
new players get a quite hard challenge to keep they UR in MLBing cuz we already overflowing with them, and a new player just get enough matts to keep all them MLBed in time the Reruns, WAs andNew one cames its just ALOT of

[hollow hollow]

you can clear the entire weekly list on reset day with 2 sets of auto clears

[whole crypt]

or less active players

[rain bobcat]

no you cant thats just plain bullshit numbers at this point

[sinful escarp]

i play this daily
but i know not everyone does it, and just randomly play once per month

[whole crypt]

you can in fact finish weekly on Monday but that will not be the case for everyone

[forest palm]

man my normal consists of literally burning bulins, and sitting on a fuck ton of resources

[whole crypt]

some folks don't even finish weeklies, we don't assume level of play

[wispy pendant]

i know we are all being big brained here... but anyone stop and think... is the real big brain move to not make a big deal of something that really isn't a big deal?

[left cedar]

its easy to get weeklys in monday ... but isnt necessary a reality, and even if u do and play ALOT u still cant MLB all URs in the time they reach being a new player... cuz the amount of Specialized Core its limited, and u need 2 to 3 years to have all URs MLBed

[forest palm]

the problem is people lurk, so it's not good to let misinformation go sometimes

sure it doesn't have to blow up like this, but people that get called out just don't leave well enough alone

[viscid swift]

and frankly, a lot of us have been here long enough and seen enough docks to know it is better not to assume x amount of play for anything

[wispy pendant]

the information is it costs some mats to retro sandy... the mis-information is claiming that's a big cost and a big deal when it's not.

[whole crypt]

it can be a big deal

you simply do not know the circumstances of the player asking

[keen sable]

imagine claiming someone who barely plays is going to brick their account because their precious game breaking ur was delayed two weeks. Has there ever even been a game breaking ur?

[forest palm]

Zwei

[viscid swift]

the points are simple
Sandy pre retro but with her augment is still a very potent ship for W13
Sandy's retrofit may take less priority than max limit breaking gacha URs, in particular Main Fleets

[hollow hollow]

50k snacks = 100. 50 A rank, 110. 10 projects = 100. 7 cats, 60. retire 10, 50. 10 upgrades, 30. 50 enhancements, 75.

100+110+100+60+50+30+75 = 525. that's half the weekly from basically logging in monday morning and doing 1 round of autos through your WA and a w12+ clear.

[rain bobcat]

IF is the main word, you do not spend 60k coins 2k protocores and a shit ton of blieprints out the bat if you are broke

[left cedar]

as i said a bit above, for a new player to keep all New URs and old URs MLBed u need someshitty as 3 years ... if u keep expending them into UR Retro Itens this shitty goes beyond 3y, so its a really bad move spend Specialized COres into a Retro that Ws that need Sandy Kai can be done with other things that dont just need the same resources as ur UR

[rain bobcat]

2 sets of auto clears barely gives you completion towards the 2k enemies and oil spent which is mandatory to complete for you to get 1000 by tuesday

[viscid swift]

there are plenty of people who don't even do that
regardless of how easy it is there are simply many people who just do not do enough to max cores each month

[stark quiver]

whats going on hre

[wispy pendant]

I'm going to keep recommending people retro sandy if and when they want to, and don't sweat the details, the game is a long marathon anyway.

[sinful escarp]

not everyone wants to spend maybe 15 mins watching chibis run around shooting things on their screens every day

[hollow hollow]

oil cost and enemy defeats and missions and snacks will push you to 600 pts just from playing the game on day 1 of the week.

[finite crag]

People assuming everyone else is the same as them

[left cedar]

same as always happens in GPH once a new guy came here and try to prove they points into shittys that we veterans already know ages ago

[whole crypt]

you assume people actually play the game

[viscid swift]

my dude, just go through any number of threads here and look at people's docks and see how many of them have partially/ non limit broken URs

and in pretty much all cases that's because they have no UR Bullins to limit break them

[wispy pendant]

I think the biggest mistake we're making is assuming people read gameplay help advice, let alone follow it.

[hollow hollow]

that wasn't the discussion, it was someone saying it's bullshit to clear weekly missions on day 1

which it's not, at all

[finite crag]

With that logic might aswell shut down this channel

[left cedar]

pratically everyone that ask for help into "i got stuck in XXW, can someone help me"

[whole crypt]

we already said it's not bs but it's not the everyplayer

[hollow hollow]

it's incredibly easy to clear weekly just by doing your dailies for the 10 minutes

[viscid swift]

yes, and some people don't even do that much

[rain bobcat]

which is not 2 clears….

[whole crypt]

clearing dailies is definitely more than 10min a day

[finite crag]

Bro is moving the goalposts 😭

[stray mantle]

Mm, anyone having issues in battle today? It freezes yet not, guns and abilities still go off. Timer stops and doesn't count down. Earlier I had to restart and it worked but I've closed out of the app 3 times now and it keeps doing it.

[wispy pendant]

Sandy is numba wun, enough said.

[whole crypt]

restart game, check connection, etc

[hollow hollow]

my 13-4 run costs 1176 oil for 3 autos

[stray mantle]

Already did both.

[viscid swift]

do you honestley think the average player has made it to 13-4?

[whole crypt]

13-4 definitely won't be 10min for 3 clears

[keen sable]

people shitting on sandy while proclaiming the importance of NJ. because i can see no other reason to claim that all retro items should be delayed 3 years in favor of UR.

[stark quiver]

you expect people to be able to auto 13-4?

[hollow hollow]

888 oil for 12-1

[wispy pendant]

yes

[left cedar]

but isnt all players that do it so, and pretty much alot of people just dont know the resourcers or ways to get or use them incorrectly and get "stuck" in something and came here for help

now imagine assuming everyone have the same amount of resources that igot ... if i do that pretty much noone will ever need help ... but this channel exist and proof that plp do spend badly, or domt play enough to get plenty of all resourcers

[undone plover]

any of the new arcade games easier/faster than this?

[left cedar]

true new players?
no, i dont even expect them to complety W12 without help

[wispy pendant]

what about be stuck in w11 for like 4 months and ask the same questions here without any real progress?

[hollow hollow]

skill issue

[rain bobcat]

and 6 autos is not 7000 oil and 2000 enemies whats your point lol

I said 2 clears for the clearing missions was bullshit numbers and here you are proving the point

[left cedar]

if Salty Belfast Clear W14 just reading, anyone that can do that and follow wut they read, they can dot it

but who refuses to read or do wut we veterans say them to do ... them idfc

[wispy pendant]

who is salty belfast? I want to shake their hand, what a hero

[hollow hollow]

i've asked for help here about what's my best setups because im biased to ships i like vs ships that are acutally good

i hate guam but i'm grinding her because i have to not because i want to

[left cedar]

i guy that we start to help him to goes through W10 iirc ... we literally make every choice and spend every bit of resources he have for someshitty like 1m till he beat W14
its pretty much a Dailly help

[wispy pendant]

pretty sure folks were autoing 15-4 before guam

[worldly pewter]

i think u are a little bit mistaken in this regard
i think it is possible within 1 year
i started during the guam event which had the 2 urs and now i m only left with mogador not mlb

[wispy pendant]

i missed this epic progression, sounds really satisfying

[hollow hollow]

yeah but my lusty class boats are all low and need grinding

[left cedar]

and the ones that still need a Rerun or WA ?

[viscid swift]

you also haven't touched any of the retrofit item as I recall

[hollow hollow]

also fw-190s aren't cheap

[wispy pendant]

just use flapjacks

[worldly pewter]

i didn't understand this

[sinful escarp]

something to note too, a lot of people dont know opsi exists, so they cant use gear lab

[whole crypt]

or they actively avoid OS

[finite crag]

if fw 190s are expensive for them wheres the flapjack coming from

[sharp socket]

what are you guys arguing about on this fine morning

[left cedar]

URs one that need to be Rerun
for Example
Impla

or for example UvH that need to be WA
u already have all them MLB ?

[viscid swift]

OpSi is just about the last thing players will do
there are plenty of people who do PR but will not touch OpSi unless told to
I have never seen it the other way around

[whole crypt]

also poor research choices

[soft raft]

Do you have Musashi, Yorktown II, Implacable ,Bismarck Zwei, and Unzen?
or UvH

[worldly pewter]

how can i have an mlb ship that i can't pull
my point is that a new player has the potential to keep the ur bulin pace within 1 year so each ship gets a rerun after that will get insta mlb

[left cedar]

dont forgot abou the last 2 new URs of this year ...
u need to put them into maths ...

[hollow hollow]

disregard this, im stupid

[wispy pendant]

you have enough core to buy 8 bulin now?

[keen sable]

why would you need 8?

[wispy pendant]

that's two UR ships insta mlb'd

[stark quiver]

erm actually its 7

[keen sable]

if you didn't follow stupid gph advice to stop farming you would clearly only need 6...

[worldly pewter]

can u read again plz ?

[left cedar]

that is the trick ...
all URs use the same resource, nextmonth a new one, all others URs that u still need to MLB need URins, the ones u still need to get into WA need URins, new ones need URins ...
its alot of Urins that u will use till u have all URs MLBed

[soft raft]

ngl my account is prob a more accurate one for the case of it being possible for F2P having all MLB URs
I started during Shima event and managed to get every UR MLB (including Shima) granted I didnt have to spend spec core on Yuudachi, An Shan, Tai Yuan, and Chang Chun retro items

[wispy pendant]

I mean I guess UR events and reruns have a UR bulin in milestones so you don't need to have 8 on stock

[knotty dome]

i played for just over 2 years, barely have enough to mlb every UR, (and now have a little leftover), and thats with pulling some dupe URs during events, so I dont think 1 year is right

[hollow hollow]

are lusty's torp bomber slot relevant at all for W15

[stark quiver]

no cuz u want more avi

[soft raft]

besides AVI stat padding, no
Wyverns in support fleet do not intercept

[viscid swift]

no, they're just AVI stat sticks

[worldly pewter]

trust me 1 year is all that it takes if someone is willing to do my progression pathing
although i m not all in perma banner pity
i got shinano after 8 months so that was kinda slow

[keen sable]

ha 6 even i can't count

[viscid swift]

I would argue not to be honest Blaster, you started right when URs became a regular thing so you caught most of them when they originally ran and didn't have to deal with that many reruns or perma URs plus the retro items as you say

[wispy pendant]

why 7?

[keen sable]

why would you not farm points for shop dupe?

[soft raft]

True

[wispy pendant]

i wasn't considering the shop dupe or milestone or cruise pass... but okay, you were

[hollow hollow]

just gonna dupe this across lusty mu and indomitable for support carriers

[keen sable]

i'm not counting cruise pass. i was counting shop dupe and i forgot milestone. so it's 6 i believe. I consider cruise part of background bulins

[sharp socket]

i can mlb mog and shinano, but then i prob would be lacking for september 2x UR, which i can probably do and get overflow spec core until the next UR event

[left cedar]

u still ned a bunch of specialized core to have all URs MLBed ... just making quick maths 4k * 6 for each Rerun it will be something like 144k of Specialized Cores just for UR Reruns .. and for the 2 new URs of this year u can be done with weekly and URins in Point rewards

[viscid swift]

it's not that it's not possible or that you even want to max limit break every UR
the simple issue is prototype cores are time gated and by extension UR Bullins
both are very heavily time gated resources so you want to be careful in what you spend them on
Retrofit Item are directly competing with UR Bullins for Specialized cores so it's a give and take which is more valueable

[wispy pendant]

anyways, my point stands I think still if one has all the MLB UR they currently had available to them and was able to buy 8 bulins with core only, they can feel "caught up" with UR bulin chase

[soft raft]

^
Esp with basically all but 1 retrofit item being worthwhile in one way or another

[viscid swift]

Personally, I would argue getting your first couple of main fleet URs max limit broken is gonna be more valuable both short and long term than getting Sandy retrofitted

[worldly pewter]

it is possible to keep pace with URs within 1 year
i can prove it with my account progression after 1 year

[wispy pendant]

this is true, if they have two main fleet URs to work on.

[sharp socket]

i thought u had 8 months

[hollow hollow]

aug slot items don't matter for support cv, right? just more stat sticks?

[viscid swift]

because Sandy's retro is very expensive and requires a lot of resources among other things

[worldly pewter]

yeah i still have 4 months to keep pace with UR bulins

i can make it happen easily

[wispy pendant]

wait until they have 3 UR in one event.

[sharp socket]

well alright if it works for you

[worldly pewter]

even if we get double URs in jp and fall

[left cedar]

say december ... some people are from south hemisphere and the seasons are different (opposite to be accurated)

[sharp socket]

does eldridge retro do anything to your spec core stockpile

[viscid swift]

you're looking at approximately 80k coins for both the retrofit and augment, 3 SR Bullins/Dupes on top of the 4 to MLB her, 20 T3 cruiser retrofit Blueprints, and soemthing like 18 T2 retrofit Cruiser BPs as well on top of her retrofit item and the augment cores needed to craft her unqiue augment

[stark quiver]

probably not

[soft raft]

ngl for the first year of regular UR releases I was barely able to keep up, i cant imagine trying to keep up with that + double UR events + UR reruns

[wispy pendant]

does eldridge have a retro item, or no?

[viscid swift]

she does, JP patch notes confirmed it

[sharp socket]

i assume she will

[keen sable]

you mean will?

[soft raft]

highly likely off of precedent with the last 3 SR -> UR retrofits

[wispy pendant]

oh cool, that means some fun side event to get it 😄

[left cedar]

4 New UR events
UR Reruns and UR WAs are happening, we just dont know the frequency of it

[forest palm]

it's like a 7(?) day mini event, and you're rewarded the retro item after that it comes down to the standard retrofit mats

[sharp socket]

i just dont know if you get it for free or not

[keen sable]

inb4 eldridge becomes first viable dupe

[wispy pendant]

yeah, that's what I meant, thought it was kinda implied, since she doesn't have a retro yet either.

[viscid swift]

it is free, just do missions for 7 days

[sharp socket]

i still have to get 100k merit to mlb and retro eldridge

[wispy pendant]

all retro items were free on initial release after some side event.

[rain bobcat]

I dont even have eldridge

[wispy pendant]

merit shop when she's available

[left cedar]

i'm pretty much in lack of lolis ...
i just keep SN and KMS DDs and that is it, all others i retire

[wispy pendant]

we don't know her stats yet, right? We don't know if she's going to be good or not yet.

[viscid swift]

nope as per usual

[wispy pendant]

think she'll be better than the ddgs?

[forest palm]

she has her dowsing rods still

[sharp socket]

the lack of good frontline is hurting me in 14-4 so im now looking more for good frontline

[left cedar]

try again in 30h~
maybe u will know stats and if she is gud or not

[hollow hollow]

is it just WA stages that drop steam cata bps

[viscid swift]

I don't think she'll be competing with the DDGs personally given her only skill

[wispy pendant]

this feels really weak:

think they'll make this 100% with a cool down?

[forest palm]

used to be the shit back in 2018 PvP

[soft raft]

currently yee
Fallen Wings D3 and Ink-Stained Steel Sakura D2

[wispy pendant]

oof, now I don't want it to be 100%, that sounds painful to do pvp if they make it 100%

[sharp socket]

the powerful frontlines are in shipyard
unfortunately they take like 3 months each to bring to usable state

[left cedar]

isnt Ink the one that lack of Elite enemys ?

[forest palm]

[viscid swift]

I think you're thinking of Visitor's Dyed in Red

[sharp socket]

ply or hinden would be really good for me right now but still on pr4

[limpid warren]

Is there a page somewhere for pr7 breakdowns and evaluations??

I thought I remember there being one

[wispy pendant]

the rainbow carrier cat girl is good, the planes are good

[left cedar]

its all about painting, that why i'm making a mess

[soft raft]

For gear: #gameplay-help message
For the ships: Pending actual testing, typical DR Pog, PR "Good but better options exist"

[sharp socket]

napoli better ancho
nyakhimov stronk
planes are good
thats all i heard about pr7 from here

[forest palm]

still think the Mod 410 is junk, and the only usable gear for PR7 is LA-9, and Mod VIT-2

[limpid warren]

Aight cool

[wispy pendant]

no bearcat love?

[soft raft]

it's realistically a Halford exclusive equipment

[wispy pendant]

so far...

[forest palm]

as far as I can tell neither the Bearcat, nor Halford herself have proven useful

opinions can change, but there's not much fanfare for a Seaplane

[wispy pendant]

maybe a seaplane meta is rising soon

[viscid swift]

just like in WoWs then

[wispy pendant]

w16 gonna be the seaplane comeback

[forest palm]

that would require Manjuu to recognize BBVs as a hull type, and they've been the ugly child since...2018

[wispy pendant]

i kind of hope halford is strong, because seems like a fun concept

[viscid swift]

but all jokes aside
Every 15s: targets a random enemy (humanoid enemies are prioritized) and decreases that enemy's EVA by 4% (10%) for 6s and launches a Lv.1 (Lv.10) seaplane attack (DMG is based on the skill's level). If this seaplane hits the random enemy targeted by this skill: increases that enemy's cannon DMG taken by 8% for 6s.
this is basically a 457 cult only skill in so far as making a a meaningful impact

[wispy pendant]

it syncs with 457? now I'm excited

[viscid swift]

it might, I haven't tried to work out the numbers myself yet but others seem to think it will

[wispy pendant]

still seems like mostly a meme, but we'll see

[forest palm]

457...eh...I'm only ever sold on that gun as far as mobbing is concerned, I don't see a practical long term use that the 406 mle doesn't already accomplish

[viscid swift]

exactly, the number of people with enough 457s to make this really shine is few and far between

I happen to be one of those poeople and even I'm not terribly enthused by it

[wispy pendant]

multi wave boss that has a shield at 20 seconds could be a good case for 457?

[stark quiver]

i use 457 for med/heavy cm

[soft raft]

I just AFCT/HSFCR + 406 MLE/406 Mk6 or 7 that shit

note that Helena cant sync with Twin barrel guns as consistently as she can with Triple barrel guns too

[rapid grail]

PR6 PR Fs5 drops on next event right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[wispy pendant]

do we know their skill ups?

[viscid swift]

nope

[wispy pendant]

k

[soft raft]

the answer should frankly be obvious

we wont know shit until datamine tomorrow

[forest palm]

PR6 F5 lands in about 37 hours

[wispy pendant]

i'm mostly interested in shamato... not sure felix or flandre are redeemable

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't discount anything completely but at the same time I don't have my hopes that high

[forest palm]

I'd much rather keep little to no expectations

[soft raft]

agreed
Like look at Rupprecht's FS5

[wispy pendant]

what was rupper's fs5? I don't even remember

[wispy pendant]

i've never used her since I made her fs5 lol

so she's a bb healer sort of? every 5 shots, and only one ship at a time?

how often does this proc realistically. I don't keep track of BB secondary shots

[forest palm]

when you're in an oversaturated hull type this ain't it chief

[sinful escarp]

repair ship meta when

[wispy pendant]

i mean, even for 1:1 clears on new events, this isn't it.

[soft raft]

Being a spiritual sucessor (or attempt at one) to Honaka wont save you from the UR BB spam

[wispy pendant]

that reminds me, I still had goals to level up my honaka

[hollow hollow]

what would be the best way to bring my lusties up to 120/125? just book them or actually grind them in the main fleet on like 12-1 or something

[wispy pendant]

I really wanted The 2nd and Princess Hime to be good, they weren't

[wispy pendant]

either or both works fine

[delicate elk]

I’m getting my team back slowly and just got unicorn, should I start building for the others i
Got what i could from shop and what i unlocked so far I’m level 10

[viscid swift]

you can refresh the guild shop for 50 tokens

[soft raft]

replace that blue rarity DD and CA with Portland and Helena
(You can refresh the guild shop again for Helena)

get Pennsylvania too
pretty sure the guide mentioned all of this as well

gonna link it again if you need it https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[delicate elk]

Clearly i wasn’t reading well enough 🤣 I haven’t been much of a reader in a few years

[modest moat]

What are “switch mechanisms” in opsi?

[delicate elk]

Ok I’m reading this time instead of being a total dumb ass and now i got the recommended set up i got, Pennsylvania,unicorn,helena,i have lena, as well, i got Portland, and my other two is princeton and Z23

[warm condor]

where the link to beginner guide?

[stark quiver]

5 messages up

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message

[warm condor]

awsome thx

[modest moat]

oh, god. Don't those only have a chance of spawning on first clear each month?

[delicate elk]

@soft raft I got one last question i did read it but then looked at the photo after should i rearrange them ?

[soft raft]

that positioning is good
the off-flag slots in the backline dont really matter as much as the vanguard positioning

[warm condor]

when can i start gainign the mats for retrofiting portland?

[vale spindle]

once you unlock hard mode, especially chapter 3 hard mode

[warm condor]

Gotcha so farm that until I max portland?
Who replaces her if I have her on max LB?

[sinful escarp]

its limited to 3x per day
so do it daily, also retro items for cruisers are at world x-2

you also get core data to buy things from the core shop

[vale spindle]

eugen portland is way cheaper to get up to speed compared to eugen and you get similar enough performance too

portland even does more damage too but thats less relevant as you go higher

[warm condor]

So Portland will be my mainstay fleet 1 vanguard until I get and MLB a UR Vanguard?

[vale spindle]

maybe not that far but she will be a mainstay for a long time

[warm condor]

Whta does that x3 plane mean?

[forest palm]

enemy planes remaining

[warm condor]

And why is this field red?

[stark quiver]

how well does mog rank in anti light armor fights
w/o any other buffers in fleet

[rain bobcat]

your submarines

[warm condor]

Are level 1

[atomic abyss]

Above ply, above DDG, below unbuffed Hinden

[rain bobcat]

more precisely the tiles your submarines cover

[warm condor]

Is this the time to build them, I think I only have 2. Nautilus and the free one.

[atomic abyss]

Nope

[warm condor]

How do I utilize my Submarine Fleet?

[rain bobcat]

bit above ply, highest as dd and below hinden

[forest palm]

subs are free extra damage, but they're overall not required

[south sequoia]

Submarines are to be ignored until later on

[rain bobcat]

for medium she is about the same as ply and for heavy she is a way better than ply theoretically

[calm cradle]

Why is Halford's seaplane so much slower than the listed FR?

[warm condor]

what is that gauge? next to their icon

[south sequoia]

/detection

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553

For more information, consult the wiki

[atomic abyss]

All planes are like that though

[vale spindle]

the firerate on the depot / craft menu is the base firerate
when equipped to a ship theres a complex formula involving the base firerate + the equipped ship's reload and more stuff

[warm condor]

AA = anti air?

[viscid swift]

yes

[atomic abyss]

That's because there's like a 2.2x? multiplier on plane reload

[silk sphinx]

2.2 yes

[atomic abyss]

The only thing this 2.2 doesn't apply to is intercept rof

[silk sphinx]

Also in depot it’s set to 100 rld by the way

[calm cradle]

Oh I see. Not sure how I never noticed that before now. Thanks

[rain bobcat]

[silk sphinx]

So once you actually equip it then it’s no longer set to 100 rld, plus the 2.2 multiplier

[sweet delta]

*times the 2.2 multiplier

[forest palm]

isn't that redundent

[silk sphinx]

Redundant

[forest palm]

[warm condor]

I cant figure out what this warning is

[forest palm]

either way you'd change it to something like, "on top of"

[silk sphinx]

You can send out more ships

[vale spindle]

its telling you can "submit" ships

[warm condor]

Oh okay, I thought I already did.

[silk sphinx]

You can do it more

The timer for how long it takes to do each of those guild missions depends on the total efficiency of the dispatched ships

[vale spindle]

after a certain amount of time you can add more, it tells you roughly when on that bottom bar once you click on that node

[silk sphinx]

Which also applies retroactively with any ships added later

[forest palm]

I thought it was hourly

[silk sphinx]

Idk tbh, didn’t know it was that often

[calm cradle]

Is auto-select always fine for these missions, btw?

[silk sphinx]

You can try to game it more but not worth the time

[sweet delta]

If your guild needs to minmax those fleets to finish 2 ops in a month, then maybe it's time to look for a new guild

[warm condor]

Should I be doing this with those toons I pick up while doing missions?

[stark quiver]

how many 12-4 runs do i need to get a UR from 110 to 120

[smoky quest]

How's this loadout for her? I would run something like the hazemeyer or staag but they're a bit hard to come by at the moment and I've been saving coins for the upcoming event

[forest palm]

just use another tool kit over the drill

[wind hazel]

use sword augment no?

[viscid swift]

that as well

[forest palm]

pretty sure Rockets are TRP based

the main gun could be a Twin 130

[rain bobcat]

too many to bother counting

but if I remember its 1.7 million exp

[forest palm]

not the question....

[agile gust]

wheres a good cat guide

[rain bobcat]

they just divide it by the exp they get per run lol

thers too many runs to bother counting and i doubt a normal person even keeps track of the runs instead of just looking at the overflowing exp bar

[viscid swift]

for a very rough baseline we'll assume about 1k average XP per battle(not accounting for high morale, MvP, or flagship bonus) and the fleet the UR is in just does the 6 mobs then you need 290 runs of 12-4

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[stark quiver]

so sound 86k oil
nice

[viscid swift]

practically speaking it should be quite a bit less than that especially if it's a main fleet

[stark quiver]

lvl 110 mog

[sweet delta]

mori helping morii

[sweet delta]

3 weeks in and out

[rain bobcat]

moga gets mvp quite easily if you have shitters on the backline

[warm condor]

How do you make this 100%

[stark quiver]

do it 1 moar time

[warm condor]

Should I be doing this?

[delicate elk]

I don’t know what half this goes to i know anti air, torpedoes and auto reload and nothing else

[agile gust]

I want to add them just because

[keen sable]

what is this?

[warm condor]

Research academy

[forest palm]

set your focus!

I see PR2 research

[keen sable]

change your research focus to series 4

[rain bobcat]

what do you mean what is this

[warm condor]

Which one?

[keen sable]

that's not focus

[warm condor]

This?

And then do this?

[soft raft]

Quick question, what world are you at right now?

[warm condor]

4

I bought the level 70 thingy so everything got unlocked all of a sudden

even the cat breeder thing

[soft raft]

jesus
ignore research for now then

get to W12 first before hard focusing research

[warm condor]

Alright, thanks

[soft raft]

This is one of the reasons why I dislike this lvl 70 pack...

[delicate elk]

I remember that pack so well 🤣

[keen sable]

if you're not poor go for it

[soft raft]

but you're most likely poor since W4 moment

[keen sable]

if you are poor but part rich try the Q.

[warm condor]

I can afford it, but - is that why I had to focus on IV?

[soft raft]

please dont do that research
it's too inefficent for its cost

[vale spindle]

is the difference between fw190 (purple) and skyrocket (purple) negligible for w15 cv support fleet

[delicate elk]

Isn’t there an easier way to find out which gear goes with who without screwing up heavily ?

[stark quiver]

yes

[vale spindle]

look up an equipment guide

[keen sable]

due to luck yes anchorage is part of 4. You do it because that's kind of the whole point of focus 4.

[delicate elk]

Can i find it here? In the server by chance

[vale spindle]

do /equip in #bot-spam

[delicate elk]

Ah

[warm condor]

I should level my gold units to 10 and just use them in comissions right? It doesnt have to be my highest level unit?

[keen sable]

it doesn't have to be 10. more xp than 0 is enough to qualify. some coms do have level requirements though

you can just hand select them once and they will available automatically after that

[warm condor]

Urgent comissions over daily?

Or that one in daily that gives cube has to be done?

[keen sable]

true dailies have really good rewards per time unit. realistically you should focus on dailies imo. the fact is if you play a lot you will easily clear true dailies and if you don't play a lot then it's irrelevant because you can't consume all the oil anyway. unless you see a gem com. always do those

[silk sphinx]

You should generally always pick gem or cube commissions

The 1 or 2 hour ones available at the start of each day are high value yep

[wet badge]

is perseus available in special summon

[soft raft]

Yes but she's not really worth going for when Unicorn retrofit basically does her job (and in certain scenarios does it better)

[wet badge]

what if i use both or want healers for both fleets

[finite crag]

dont use both and you dont need healers for boss

[crimson glacier]

perseus isnt that good of a choice for 2nd healer

[wet badge]

ok

[soft raft]

the situations where you'd want to do double healer are limited and even then, Perseus isnt ideal for that use either

And if you're using a healer in boss fleet (or even entertaining the idea of such in the first place), you're doing something very wrong

[crimson glacier]

i mean in some places healer in boss really isnt that bad

but perseus would be bad

[stark quiver]

Is canteen oil cap 3600

[wet badge]

are bbs or carriers better for boss

[soft raft]

heavily context dependent

[finite crag]

bit of both

[soft raft]

but to put it simply, OpSi is really the only place where mono BB/CV fleets can really work

[wet badge]

should i do 1 cv 2 bbs or 1 bb 2 cv

[fossil shard]

What’s independence good for?

[soft raft]

mobbing

[finite crag]

depends on what youre doing

not a question i can answer rn

[fossil shard]

Good in opsi? Better than bearn meta?

[soft raft]

still depends but I find myself doing 1 BB 2 CV for most of campaign

[soft raft]

Good for mobbing in general, and better than bearn META after retrofit

[fossil shard]

Thank you

[wet badge]

what are good dps carriers beside URs

[soft raft]

if you want fleet help just post your dock in a thread instead of this piecemeal fashion

[finite crag]

even if people were to name a few you might still not have those ships

[urban spruce]

Is there a place where I can see war archive ship drops? Or are they the same as the original runs & I should just look at the wiki for the original runs drops?