gameplay-help

[soft raft]

This is about as good as you can get for the EN side of things in a campaign only context
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[whole crypt]

*in a campaign only context not including ch14/15

[eager mulch]

why excluding ch14/15

[jaunty vault]

does it include ch14/15

[eager mulch]

i don’t see what makes it not include ch14/15

[vernal edge]

How much coins would mlbing UR cost me?

[keen sable]

26

[vernal edge]

20k for the last tier right?

[eager mulch]

[slender python]

Is it a good idea to do this?

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[sturdy tapir]

Uhhh... Question. How u all lvling ur low lvl fleets without xp book n dorm? Should i try one by one stage that which one i can survive? Or any lvl requirement to mobbing 9-1? Thanks

[plain saffron]

usually i just exp book

[tame jungle]

and i put them in the dorm

[rain bobcat]

I dont waste my books on anyone above 100

[cobalt rapids]

pack em till u can grind with em safely in ur pref stage preferably w12+

if u dont dump books on high lvl ships u shouldnt run out of books to boost low lvls unless ure new

[sturdy tapir]

Actuallt i dump to another low lvl. But my louis research is done n i realize i have l'audy so...

[whole crypt]

to be exact it doesn't include any map specifically, 14 and 15 are just easy to single out because they have more gimmicks to take into consideration than previous chapters

[cobalt rapids]

going below w12 is not worth unless u cant do w12

[short matrix]

what are the best ships to give Admiralalty Fire Control table?

[rain bobcat]

any bb

[whole crypt]

rainbow BBs in a BB boss fleet

[short matrix]

okay, thanks then. I think I'll give one to Musashi and one to Bis Zwei

[sturdy tapir]

Well im still lv 67 so i need to grind my lvl account

[cobalt rapids]

dont do pr cdcs till u reach w12

[sturdy tapir]

Oh ok thanks for info

[whole crypt]

you can do cdc before 12 just don't make it a focus and go out of your way for it if it impedes your progression

[ionic bramble]

I got roon and saint louis from pr1 already, do I convert these?

[sweet delta]

You convert them regardless of whether you have Roon and saint

[whole crypt]

you should convert them for every series of them you get regardless of ships

[ebon oxide]

I just pulled Allen M Sumner from build. Is she good in endgame?

[soft raft]

meh

[whole crypt]

decent but not top tier

[sweet delta]

L'audacieux shits on Allen and gets shit on by a few other ships

[keen sable]

12+ and D3

[mystic topaz]

Hmm.. what determines how many airstrikes, torpedoes and long range bombardments i get?

[sweet delta]

Your ships

[mystic topaz]

Where do i see that?

[ionic bramble]

so convert all and buy Tenrai design, I assume?

[whole crypt]

what to buy first depends on what you have but buying Tenrai isn't the worst thing you can do with the cores

[keen sable]

you should wait until you have enough to craft one

[ebon oxide]

If you’re asking about how many shots per salvo or how many bombs per air strike, look in limit break for main gun +1 or bombers +1

[keen sable]

realistically? use the wiki

if not then as mentioned limit break screen but you also need to read retrofit modernization and probably all skills carefully

[red token]

Ok

[mystic topaz]

No wai, it's that slow moving ticker box

[ebon oxide]

is helena worth completely retrofitting? her radar scan activating sooner might mean sync issues with BBs and CV salvos/strikes?

[vale spindle]

the skill activation timer is a toggle post retrofit

[forest palm]

Syncing CVs to Helena is tricky w/ or w/o SGR, with BBs you just slap an HSFCR on your BB with SGR Helena

[vale spindle]

you just equip sg radar or don't equip it to change the timing

so therefore she can work with both types of sync

[atomic abyss]

in other words, retrofit her
the extra survivability goes a long way

maybe not a high prio retro though

[ebon oxide]

I see, thank you all

[ebon oxide]

yeah I'm working on Unicorn, Helena, Nelson, and Saratoga retros right now

[gilded shale]

Will the meta ships in cruise missions get a rerun one day?

[ebon oxide]

unicorn i know is highest priority, then after that IDK

[hollow gust]

Eventually

[atomic abyss]

uni, then portland + starter retros for the rookie missions

[soft raft]

we dont know when or how
all we know is that they're gonna happen at one point

[ebon oxide]

tbh I wanna wait until next month's medal shop rotation before picking the starter mission ship reward. so after laffey, which one should be next?

this month, medal shop only offers CAs for me :(

[atomic abyss]

well, i'd say nelson or sara
i prefer getting nelson first, since sara can at least use her aug first

nelson kinda way more ass without retro

[gilded shale]

What should I do to not waste the 12k of coins? I got like 150k over the 90k limit now

[atomic abyss]

upgrade faction tech or other stuff, do some limit breaks, retrofits,

...DO RESEARCH

[gilded shale]

Ah right that thing

[atomic abyss]

you have so much coins because you're not doing research 💀

[forest palm]

wouldn't stress being over soft cap as long as you're spending your coin where necessary

[atomic abyss]

also, keep your commissions running

[gilded shale]

I usually do the free ones/plates

[atomic abyss]

free ones are usually bad
so start taking the coin ones too

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

actually here

set focus to PR4 and let her rip

[soft raft]

dont bother with the soft cap
you'll eventually get to the point where deliberately going below the soft cap is a bad idea
the actual resource caps are 600k coins and 25k oil

[atomic abyss]

but yeah, since you haven't been doing research, that's a good way to make effective use

[ebon oxide]

Roughly how many coins will pulling in a UR event gacha cost?

[viscid swift]

300k max

[gilded shale]

Is fate simulation for pr2, 3 a good idea?

[ebon oxide]

sheesh

[soft raft]

not a high priority

[flint wyvern]

Is Plymouth better for mob or boss fleets?

[soft raft]

she can work in both perfectly fine but her buff utility is much more valueable in boss

[atomic abyss]

well, when you have the time at least
prioritise fs5 for fdg using coins, and then use your other coins for anchorage in pr4

if fdg is done, focus on PR4

[ebon oxide]

At the level where they’re at, is passive coin income (merchant) a very small part of total coin income?

[calm ledge]

Are there any SR ships worth grinding for on story stages besides akagi/kaga (who I'm well aware aren't worth grinding for)

[flint wyvern]

Copy copy

[atomic abyss]

yuudachi i guess, cos of the retrofit, though she isn't high prio

[timid beacon]

Research is hard since no coins

[jaunty vault]

[atomic abyss]

research isn't exactly for super new players so

[viscid swift]

yes, that's why among other reasons we say wait till you get to W12 to make it a primary focus

[wispy pendant]

If you're not in w12 yet, are you even making enough exp to unlock research ships?

[jaunty vault]

in the end, it depends on how much you farm

it is indeed possible to get PR/DR ships when below w12

[sweet delta]

That is indeed what I did

[ebon oxide]

I hard-grinded the event and I'm at 2M out of 3M xp for saint louis

[jaunty vault]

good for you guys, I'm proud of you

[ebon oxide]

just a data point 😅

[grizzled wave]

should i wait to make my 2nd flapjack or get the tigercat now?

im being bottlenecked by the top secret

[jaunty vault]

META advice would be to get flapjack

[grizzled wave]

wb for 14/15

[sweet delta]

How many 457mm do you have

[cobalt rapids]

did u do ur conv tb and wyverns in the first place?

[jaunty vault]

[grizzled wave]

im trying to save for wyvern too

[grizzled wave]

1 the UR ap gun right

[jaunty vault]

yes

twin 457mm mkA, UR AP BB gun

[grizzled wave]

conv tb?

[cobalt rapids]

converging torpedo bombers

[grizzled wave]

ooo

i only have 1 ryusei

im trying to get more planes

[cobalt rapids]

then do 3 junkers before throwing electronics and plane parts at 2x1000lb fighters

ull get more of an upgrade from them rather than 2x500lb -> 2x1000lb for those mats

[grizzled wave]

r those the ju- somethings?

[cobalt rapids]

ju-87 D4 yea

[grizzled wave]

this one right?

[sweet delta]

Right

[grizzled wave]

thanks yall for tips its sucks bc im bottlenecked by opSi too i did all my dailys and all my loggers

[sweet delta]

even I don't use 3 jus

[cobalt rapids]

I have 3+13 saiuns 2+13 ju and 2 +13 ryuu so i dont use 3 either it seems

[cobalt rapids]

then do 2 jus instead

[grizzled wave]

next opSi ill be able to buy more loggers for gears

cuz ill have a lot of vouchers for files

[sweet delta]

That's exactly how many +13 I have too 🤝

[stoic basalt]

Suggestions for fleet against Wichita? Kinda struggling at level 15

[vale spindle]

if you don't want to use cvs then your biggest improvement would be swapping out shimakaze for a dps that does more vs light armor

or helena

[grizzled wave]

anyone know if i can do anything in Opsi if i did all dailys and the monthly boss already(i cant do the hard boss)

[vale spindle]

if a zone has an icon over it do it

you are only done with opsi once all the zones don't have icons on them anymore xd

[grizzled wave]

theres none i think

[vale spindle]

you can't do the monthly hard boss so that icon won't go away which is fine

[vale spindle]

you can go to the blue port shops and buy coordinates then

[grizzled wave]

i bought em all out LOL

[stoic basalt]

I got level 120 tai yuan but I didn't see a big improvement over shima, what could I use?

[vale spindle]

then u chillin lol, just wait til next week when another stronghold spawns, in the meantime if you want to afk farm you can strategic search on a corrosion 5 zone, which is optimal for cat node farming

or alternatively you can try and get your first 2 tunings to 203 cause thats the maximum cap for the arbiter boss, and try that again

[grizzled wave]

Is corrosion 6 too expensive?

[vale spindle]

relative to the rewards gained yes

[grizzled wave]

gotcha thanks

[atomic abyss]

tai yuan should be doing way to wichitamore unless she's dying as quickly as shima or is poorly geared..

[vale spindle]

if you want to tryhard minmax stuff you can attempt going for zone star conditions as well

[lavish mango]

Hello

This is the fleet I was planning to use in world 14, the first one is for the boss fleet, and the second for mob.

Are they ok?

The boss fleet, consisting of Shinano, Hakuryuu and Kearsarge, as flagship, is feasible, or it lacks interception?

[atomic abyss]

interception is the MOST important thing in w14 lol

[sweet delta]

This but with a rainbow DD gun, and possibly pearls tears over toolkit if nobody else is using it

[lavish mango]

If needed, I was also thinking of changing Kearsarge for Alsace, or changing everything altogether and making a backline consisting of Alsace, Odin or Kearsarge and Bismarck II or New jersey as flagship.

[atomic abyss]

kears sucks for campaign

[sweet delta]

Your fdg is also using a bad CL gun for interception

[viscid swift]

drop Perseus for Unicorn retro

[lavish mango]

Ah, ok

[lavish mango]

Should I use the Felix gun?

[viscid swift]

and have you not done any operation siren

[atomic abyss]

triple 155 kai

[lavish mango]

Very little, just to get the two xf5-u and a couple of German 128mm

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_155mm_(3rd_Year_Type)_Kai
yeah get a pair of these at least

[lavish mango]

Ok, for everything else the fleet is kinda ok?

Is it ok using two CVs in boss?

[viscid swift]

there's a number of other smaller things I really want to be changed like all the torps be swapped out for Quad Mags
Yuudachi off tank in the boss fleet also may or may not work out

Shinano and Hakuryu are also to close together for my taste

[stoic basalt]

got it, I'll gear properly and see the damage

[lavish mango]

I can swap the torps, I have them on other ships.

I put Yuudachi there because I read that she has good synergy with Shimakaze.

What would you advice instead?

[viscid swift]

another tank, such as Anchorage

[atomic abyss]

at this point, better to start a thread so we can see what you do have

[lavish mango]

Yeah, sure

World 14 fleet

[calm ledge]

based on what people were talking about earlier I'm guessing world 12 would be best for xp?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[steel grotto]

its because the reward drops dont change after w12 right

[sweet delta]

Wrong

[viscid swift]

among other reasons W12 is just really easy to farm

[zealous cave]

i just got to level 100. any suggestions to beat these?

[sweet delta]

Higher chapters give more coins per oil and chips per oil and augment exp (except 15-4 And 15-3)

[sweet delta]

Have you tried it?

I mean Musashi NJ Vanguard and three non-troll vanguard ships should stomp it even with wrong ammo type

[zealous cave]

i wanna get it down first try and i can't find any info about it on the wiki

[sweet delta]

Same as the level 60 one, use the correct damage type and ggez

[zealous cave]

ok

[ebon oxide]

Is yuudachi good for endgame?

[grizzled wave]

can i use flandre gun and champy gun interchangeably?

[sweet delta]

What kind of endgame are you talking about

[atomic abyss]

timing is slightly different, but essentially, yes

[sweet delta]

Yuudachi isn't used anywhere in the best fleets

[ebon oxide]

Uhh like W13-15?

Idk

[sweet delta]

Good through 14, not the best though

[atomic abyss]

w14 yes, cos DDs are used there for ASW
w13 and w15 no because non existent AA

[sweet delta]

13 is easy so yuudachi is good there too

If you're considering retrofitting yuudachi then the answer is doubt

[zealous cave]

thanks the healthbar melted

[grizzled wave]

K cuz im closer to flandre gun than my 2nd champy gun and was wondering if I shud make it. I prob will

[ebon oxide]

I saw Allen M Sumner (which I got earlier today) has good AA but she’s not the best supposedly

[stark quiver]

She isn’t used

[atomic abyss]

DDs just aren't meant for AA unless they're Laffey 2

[soft raft]

the Allen class has relatively high AA for the hulltype but other than that, they're not that special

[atomic abyss]

because the main source of champagne guns are from protocore, not PR3

[sweet delta]

And l'audacieux is a full yuudachi side grade for far cheaper

[atomic abyss]

at that point might as well use a DDG

[sweet delta]

What's the doubt

[atomic abyss]

50s ramp up is still pretty sus

[keen sable]

you're asking the same people. try again when they're not around

[sweet delta]

I already said it, divide by 1.15 or something to go from 10 minutes to 80 seconds

Ply minus 15% is like yuudachi

[ebon oxide]

Does L’audac’s barrage damage depend on FP?

[grizzled wave]

oooo okay okay so using flandre gun should still be fine right cuz its almost the same

[ebon oxide]

Or just skill level

[atomic abyss]

both, pretty sure

[sweet delta]

In terms of "short" campaign mob battles, well they'll both be very good up through w14

[cobalt rapids]

all dmg components of barrages have a scaling stat even if not stated in skill desc
u can assume its the main stat of the respective ship but not always

[sweet delta]

How about that senran kagura gear that scales by AA

Gear or augment or whatever it was

[keen sable]

i would rather assume it's the main stat of the weapon you see

[ebon oxide]

So maybe her barrage scales off TRP since that’s the highest?

[grizzled wave]

@atomic abyss sorry so in conclusion whichever one i can get first itll be fine to make correct?

[sweet delta]

Highest stat is not main stat 🧠

[ebon oxide]

[atomic abyss]

i'd honestly just get the stuff from protocore

why are you even research focusing PR6 anyways

[grizzled wave]

kears

ooo

[atomic abyss]

have you gotten 2 tenrais?

[grizzled wave]

nope still working on 1st one

[atomic abyss]

then not sure why you're in PR6

[grizzled wave]

should i focus on PR4 then? thats where tenrai is from right?

[atomic abyss]

kears is very niche lol
if you don't have yk2 she's kinda pointless to get even

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't go that far

but PR6 is overall the lowest priority of the seasons without getting into specific circumstances

[cobalt rapids]

best way is to check to be sure theres exceptions like i said
saratoga shoots AVI scaling shells
shima has FP scaling aoa components, etc.

[keen sable]

Did you D30 agir, FS5 anchorage? Do you need AvP and Haku?

[ebon oxide]

but where do i check

[cobalt rapids]

riceist datamina for numbers, cn wiki for numbers + accompanying gifs but need more navigation shenenigans

[sweet delta]

The solution is to not check

Because knowing it doesn't matter for 99.999% of situations

[grizzled wave]

almost dev25 agir, dev 28 anchorage rn I switch to PR4 to get more agir/anchor BP’s

i got kears bc waifu tbh

and then switched back to 4

[static harbor]

So this is better than my rainbows torps?

[cobalt rapids]

its the best

[sweet delta]

At equal enhance

Maybe at +10 too

[static harbor]

Wow, give me my plates back

[sweet delta]

Wait for gear lab recipe for 533mm sextuple homing torpedo mount

[keen sable]

imagine going through life with only one good torp

[ebon oxide]

indeed, that is no way to live

[keen sable]

at least you'll have a lot of parts for your subs

[static harbor]

Ah, I prob asked this before, but memory is unreliable, but who is better vs. Light/Med, Magodor or Sandy?

[atomic abyss]

should be mog, since she outDPSes ply on light
although sandy isn't far

[static harbor]

Think its worth dropping Aurora to use both or naw?

[atomic abyss]

ply should win for med though

[sweet delta]

Nobody beats aurora when aurora is cooking

[atomic abyss]

aurora is fundamentally a debuffer to help the backline

so the DPS increase would be far larger when debuff is active

[static harbor]

Aight, thanks

[sweet delta]

Except Helena when she's cooking hard

[atomic abyss]

when she's 🎲 hard

[static harbor]

I abandoned Helena gamba for Hindenburg gunning

[warm condor]

Hellooo!!! I am a returning player, here for the 6th year hype. Sandy server. Is this where I ask about stuff?

[hollow gust]

gameplay stuff yeah

[warm condor]

So I have a ton of this, they are fodder right?

[sweet delta]

They are limit break fodder

[novel solstice]

They exist to limit break ships.

[sweet delta]

Much lower priority as medal fodder

[warm condor]

I see, I may have spent too much money. Getting the 3 UR in the banner before asking about them here. Should I just invest in them?

Or are they - ugh that ship is 3 years old and has been power crept

[sweet delta]

No because they take rainbow bulins, not purple bulins

[warm condor]

I see, so these bulins are for purple units. Thank you

[sweet delta]

Purple and lower

[cobalt rapids]

purple and below
gold are for gold
rainbow for rainbow

[inland shoal]

They are for grey blue and purple

[warm condor]

May I show my box here and get advise about starting team 1 so I dont invest on the wrong unit?

[cobalt rapids]

in a thread yea

[warm condor]

Returning player, help with team

[static harbor]

Should I replace her bottom gun for an AP gun or keep as is vs. Heavy?

I have a 203mm Mk 15

[cobalt rapids]

either with another hindy gun or fine as is

[static harbor]

Gimme a year for another Hindy gun, but either way thanks

[hollow gust]

[lone knoll]

does this stack?

[hollow gust]

no

[atomic abyss]

no

[lone knoll]

rip

[hollow gust]

thats why u buy black first

[lone knoll]

worth if just for fp tho no? either that or radar

[soft raft]

The stats do
The skill doesn't

[left cedar]

gona depends on wut u are figthing ... if medium Hindy Gun, if Medium 234 if light Unze Gun

[lone knoll]

sad I'll get it eventually

9-4 my ship died for the first time its getting hard

cant wait for plane maps

[hollow gust]

Fleet comp issues

[timid beacon]

How to get rainbow gear

[atomic abyss]

events, research or gear lab
bear in mind that not all rainbow gear are built the same

[timid beacon]

I though you buy white first

[cobalt rapids]

opsi, events, research

[timid beacon]

[hollow gust]

[timid beacon]

I’m working on the black one anyway

[atomic abyss]

as a new player, priority should be GETTING gear to begin with

most of which will be purple, with the occasional golds

[haughty dust]

What is the faction abbreviation for Iris Libre and Vichiya? I can start on Vanguard xp ship grind late tomorrow. But using the website posted in a earlier thread. Not sure what their abbreviation is.

[timid beacon]

I’ve got some gold stuff

Currently on 8-1

[ornate narwhal]

what do we get for anni?

[sweet delta]

Ffnf and mnf

[atomic abyss]

FFNF for Iris
MNF for Vichiya

[keen sable]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1271374057811738706

[haughty dust]

Thank you. I was just about to ask if it was those two.

[ornate narwhal]

all i see is people saying 6…

[atomic abyss]

check the pins

[ornate narwhal]

ah ok

[keen sable]

summary is pinned

[ornate narwhal]

tysm

[haughty dust]

which ships on that website classes do I select for Vanguard ships? I figured out where evasion and fp (whatever that stands for, idk) are, but not which classes to filter by.

I assume anything but planes, bb, and subs, but not sure which ones.

[soft raft]

DD/CL/CA

[haughty dust]

For my post I assume?

btw can you save the information for ships you have obtained in game to that website to track how your ships are, like which ones you have obtained and such?

[cobalt rapids]

yes u can save it

manually for each ship

[haughty dust]

Does it auto save if you were to leave the website?

[soft raft]

yes

[steel jacinth]

question, dr project d2h30m or d5h?

[haughty dust]

OK, thank you. By the way, I see that it doesn’t have the Greek symbol version of this character listed but the main version are they close enough to the same if I would mark her off on the website as the normal version?

[hollow gust]

Much prefer the 2:30

[soft raft]

Muse versions dont give tech so you're most likely to just gonna confuse yourself in the future

[hushed aurora]

Are there any ur retrofit worth building? or keep them for research (blueprints)

[haughty dust]

btw it currently seems to say that these are the 4 ships I can chose from for Vanguard step if "On Obtain" is the right filter to select. Any suggestions on who to use or should I pull for another character at some point?

[stark quiver]

San Diego

[soft raft]

currently pending judgement on Eldridge retrofit, currently the order is like Sandy retro > Yuudachi retro >>>>>>>>>> Warspite retro in terms of worthwhile use

[hushed aurora]

Already have her was my first big prio to build

[haughty dust]

If I do "On Max" I get different results. This is what it shows "On Max".

Saint Louis is at level 121.

[cobalt rapids]

ships give tech bonus at 2 stages on obtain and at lv120
the filter on max shows the tech at 120, on obtain is self explanatory

[haughty dust]

So then based on there levels. Any recommendations for Vanguard step. Someone told me evasion and mp for farming XP for Brest. I have to check who it was.

Does not look like I have many choices.

[atomic abyss]

well, sanrui and brennus give eva tech for cruisers, which are VERY useful

[viscid swift]

cruiser evasion and Firepower are the 2 main ones

[cobalt rapids]

destroyer eva is low prio for tech
but u can do any of the cruisers u got there mlb + laudace

[haughty dust]

laudace?

[haughty dust]

So Brennus, Laudace, and whole else?

[cobalt rapids]

guichen

[haughty dust]

ok

I am pretty sure only Brennus is mlb and of course Saint Louis, but she is level 121.

[hushed aurora]

what website is this?

[grizzled wave]

whats the command to see what contributes to PR combat data collection?

[haughty dust]

Guichen and Laudace are both two stars away rn from mlb. Brennus is max stars.

Currently only have enough SR bulin to get one of them up one star.

Not sure if I should save or use the 1 SR Bulin rn.

[atomic abyss]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[haughty dust]

I would have to get 6 in total to do both of them.

[cobalt rapids]

if u cannot mlb em then use elites

[haughty dust]

ok

[ebon oxide]

What does hangar capacity +1 do for carriers? From limit breaking.

[keen sable]

hold more airstrikes

[haughty dust]

easier said than done when my elites are level 1/2 star greek, level 38/4 star epee, and max lb Fleuret

[ebon oxide]

Do carriers have a limited number of strikes per battle?

[inner delta]

the limit is the time and the amount of enemy

[ebon oxide]

So how does holding more airstrikes change anything?

[inner delta]

more burst dmg

dumping 2 strike at once instead of 1

it's usually for arbiter/abyssal that can self heal

[mystic topaz]

Are the magnetic versions of the 533 quintuple torpeodoes better than the regular version? both versions i have are purple

[ebon oxide]

Oh nice…so if dive bomber number is at 1 and hangar capacity number is also 1, if a limit break adds 1 to each, does damage get increased by 4x?

[haughty dust]

what is the "consider status" toggle for on the website I mentioned earlier? I do not see any tooltip when I hover over it to indicate what it is for

[inner delta]

dmg does not always scale with the plane since they can miss and shit but i guess?

[inner delta]

magnetic quint is bad

[inner delta]

consider is prolly just still being test

[haughty dust]

For those who reacted. What is with the reaction? That ship wont even help me with xp since it is level one and never been starred up.

[ebon oxide]

I see. Thank you!

[haughty dust]

wdym?

[inner delta]

what website to make it clear

[haughty dust]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/

[inner delta]

consider is prolly just a tag for you maybe

like if you considering to max limit break or anything

i dont think anyone here own the website so dont know the real intention

[cobalt rapids]

its just different sorting

like ships u maxed will be shoved to the bottom if u tick consider status

[mystic topaz]

What makes them a bad choice? just curious.

Ahhh

But normal is faster?

[inner delta]

the rld is slow, the dmg is shit

normal as is which

like the US one? it's better but quad mag is better

[hushed aurora]

Can I clear chapter 13 with these fleets? First fleet is boss second is for escorts

[cobalt rapids]

with proper gear

[mystic topaz]

Ah yea, so it's the quint that's the slow part. But magnetic in general is good?

[inner delta]

magnetic is good just not quint

that's usable

[ocean fiber]

I was able to finish researching anchorage. Now the question is who to research next

[cobalt rapids]

aegir

[merry sequoia]

Whoever is available with the amount of fleet tech you have

[cobalt rapids]

or fdg if u havent done her yet

[ocean fiber]

I already have her

[hushed aurora]

also what is worth buying from this shop?

[cobalt rapids]

if have fdg ancho and aegir then finish the rest of pr4 then it doesnt rly matter anymore

[undone plover]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[ocean fiber]

I don’t have enough points for kaku and I no I haven’t done FDG yet

[mystic topaz]

Oh i get it now. Both the magnetic and quint drops down reload rate quite down

[cobalt rapids]

fdg then

[ocean fiber]

Is she really that good still?

[cobalt rapids]

unless u got most UR bbs yes

[ocean fiber]

I have bismark zwei and New Jersey on my teams

[cobalt rapids]

sounds likes shes very good for ur dock then

[keen sable]

yes? battles only last for so long

[ocean fiber]

So do FDG then

[cobalt rapids]

yes do fdg

[keen sable]

on auto it only has a minor effect if any, mainly in preventing blocking but on manual you can hold airstrikes until helena procs, or target stops, or whatever bizarre reason manualers come up with. Try that with BB and all you will do is waste reload

[earnest flare]

opsi recs pls

[ebon oxide]

you mean the cv can hold more than 1 strike at a time, but the game reloads 1 strike at a time? (which is why you aren't wasting reload compared to BB?)

unless you are holding at max capacity

[keen sable]

exactly

[keen sable]

T2 mags are probably usable but T1 is probably not

[mystic topaz]

if i make my unicorn focus mainly on healing over damage, does she still want steam catapult or should i give that to another CV more focused on damage?

[left cedar]

wut is Uni focused in healing ? why i'm thinking this guy is copping into fast over dmg?

[finite crag]

Just use good gear on her dont overthink it, if limited catapult you can prioritize damage dealers first sure

[mystic topaz]

i got a recommend from someone to put messerchmitt and barracuda on her 1) i don't have a lot of plane variety and 2) was told these planes have higher fr, so in that sense, she's opting for a faster airwave

[finite crag]

Messershit

[hollow gust]

that increase speed is not worth sacking the damahe

[cobalt rapids]

the person who recced messerschmitt mustve been trolling you

[hollow gust]

Kimo caliber reccs

[novel solstice]

The small increase in speed from the messer is unlikely to get you one more launch before a battle ends compared to a slower fighter with bombs. So you're almost certainly better off taking one of the usual fighters with bombs and getting some damage because you'll probably get the same healing either way.

[mystic topaz]

so in terms of fighters, i got hellcat, corsair and seafang as purple

[keen sable]

you should block them

[eternal fiber]

does anyone know where to get this? The wiki doesn't say where to get it

[viscid swift]

an event

[warm flax]

It's inaccessible right now

[eternal fiber]

Damn, alright

oh nvm, just found out I have it

[keen sable]

I did not just update this 5 seconds ago

[eternal fiber]

Huh, bad timing it seems. When I looked at it earlier, it was just a - instead of that

[little tree]

Does C6 Abyaslls give the same part drops at C5 about

[little tree]

Thank you Skipping C6's then not that much better

[cobalt rapids]

yea dont skip any

[lone knoll]

is it worth to +30 dev the one im unlocking (saint luis) or should I save for roon? (I want more eagle units idk if its worth it tho)

[wispy pendant]

whatever, because you can use coins to dev all PR1-3

[lone knoll]

okok so not a big loss saving for roon, thanks

[wispy pendant]

if you save those till you're done with all PR1 ships, you can convert it to core to buy part bps. (you don't have to wait till all the ships are done, you can convert it to core if you make it into a bp of a single ship you've finished, I think that means fs5 for a ship?

[lone knoll]

im not even close to being done with my 1st pr ship ahahah

I think i'm just gonna use them I need a 2nd fleet

[lone knoll]

what is fs5?

[wispy pendant]

fate simulation lvl 5

[lone knoll]

i dont even know what that is, ill search it up

[lone knoll]

165 blueprints for full fate sim....

[keen sable]

you save them and do nothing to produce bp until saint louis is dev 30.

[wispy pendant]

this game is a huge grind

[lone knoll]

okay so saving is the key

I guess i can dump the idea of using roon then

need 1 more frontline and backline unit for fleet 2

[keen sable]

that's just as bad. you do nothing with them

[lone knoll]

I was thinking of straight up using them wehn I get them, it should be a decent buff for my acc

[remote yarrow]

You wait till Sant Louis is Dev 30 and then use them, so you can convert the excess BPs into procotore

[keen sable]

it would make your account worse

[lone knoll]

okay i'll wait then

[remote yarrow]

Since PR1 to PR3 is fully coinable there's no reason to use BPs instead of coining

[keen sable]

set your research focus to series 4 btw

[lone knoll]

oh yeah I forgot about coining

have not reached that stage, coin bps only unlçock after I develop a ship fully right?

[remote yarrow]

No, you can start coining as soon as you unlock a ship, but you gotta use the BPs you got before being able to coin

[keen sable]

you can only coin if you have the ship and have 0 ZERO bp

[lone knoll]

yes I meant unlocking, im still doing the missions

this is bad then

[remote yarrow]

Really bad

[lone knoll]

im inting

[remote yarrow]

Set your focus to PR/DR 4

And also don't catchup Roon

[mystic topaz]

for CVs that do not carry AA like CVL, can they still defend against air strikes on their own?

[keen sable]

change your catchup immediately to anchorage or agir

[lone knoll]

which one?

[keen sable]

planes defend against air strikes?

[viscid swift]

yes
esepcially if they use aircraft that can passively interecept

[keen sable]

agir

[viscid swift]

not like the AA guns are of any CVL are that noteworthy anyway

[mystic topaz]

that implies there aircrafts that don't do this passively?

[remote yarrow]

Btw we are telling you to not Catchup Roon to minmax Protocore income, we recommend doing it with Season 1 to 3
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#catch-up_min_max collapse the "PR Catchup Min-Maxing" section for more info

[viscid swift]

yes, all dive bombers, most TBs, and a few fighters cannot intercept passively

[keen sable]

some don't even have guns

[lone knoll]

I oignored ir first time i read it

I will give it a read then

[remote yarrow]

It may say "This is only recommended for PR1 and PR2" but PR3 isn't that important either

[lone knoll]

at least is very passive

[lone knoll]

3000 coins daily ?

[stark quiver]

yah

[lone knoll]

so till 600x3

[remote yarrow]

Yeah we recommend buying 10 to 15 BPs daily, which is 3000~8250 coins

[finite crag]

10 a day 15 if youre feeling funky

[lone knoll]

my coin gen is very low I never have gold

I will do 10 then

[remote yarrow]

Oh Focusing on research + coining is recommended to do when you reach W12 since before that your coin income can't really keep up

[elfin thunder]

Is the U-96 augment good?

[lone knoll]

yeah I just arrived at 10-1, 2 of my units died clearing 9-4 tho I need to upgrade my gear

would u say entreprise is more mob or boss oriented?

[remote yarrow]

Boss she works in mob early on tho

[elfin thunder]

Becayse seems weird to loose 10% crit rate for 4% torp, unless there’s a barrage upgrade I don’t know about

[viscid swift]

what, her augment also gives her 10% crit rate like the dagger

[elfin thunder]

Well yeh, like default

Just asking if her augment better than dagger

[viscid swift]

yes

[elfin thunder]

I meant skill

If the 10% less crit is worth

[viscid swift]

I don't see where the loss in crit rate is comming from

[haughty dust]

how about these three characters for Vanguard ships for Brest xp until SR ships are mlb?

[forest palm]

Mog, Brennus, and Guichen would be fine

[elfin thunder]

20% to 10%

[viscid swift]

what no it isn't

[elfin thunder]

Wait

[viscid swift]

officially an EN moment

[remote yarrow]

Certified EN moment

[elfin thunder]

Misreading moment

[forest palm]

[haughty dust]

would this be a decent setup for fleet one and fleet two for the Vanguard portion of Brest xp farm?

[stark quiver]

yea just make sure they dont die

[haughty dust]

I will certainly keep an eye on it

[stark quiver]

stars on back line look kinda questionable tho, id rather get haku to 120 first instead of kear

[haughty dust]

Should I replace Vanguard with somebody?

[finite crag]

Until you can mlb her yea

Focus on limit breaking 1 ship at a time

[haughty dust]

like who?

[finite crag]

Youre farming xp so anyone who needs xp

[wide elk]

For 13-4 if I’m in Safe Mode what is the average level I need to complete it?

[haughty dust]

Yeah, I’m doing that with Gucci atm for non PR/DR ships

[haughty dust]

Well, let me look at my dock and I’ll post another picture if I need to

[stark quiver]

115~ granted u have right gear

[sharp socket]

which is tankier soyuz or alsace

for w14 boss

[haughty dust]

Here’s the next two sections of my dock if you have any additional advice

[stark quiver]

id put alsace in boss better single target

[sharp socket]

im using both in my boss fleet, which one is tankier

[haughty dust]

If you have any suggestions, feel free let me know

[sharp socket]

my backline has a chance of dying often and that was in 14-2

[finite crag]

August

[haughty dust]

OK, so besides unicorn AVP and anyone else?

[earnest flare]

is fdg or richy better for opsi mob (Indy, uni, are other backliners)

[finite crag]

Fdg

[haughty dust]

OK, so for mom you’re saying FDG, AVP, and Uni?

[finite crag]

I wasnt answering you

Level avp and haku

[haughty dust]

Oh sorry just noticing that now

[sharp socket]

theyre getting shredded by the big boat with searchlights ramming into my backline, and the arcing shells that just skip my frontline and head for the backline

[haughty dust]

ok and Haku is inching close to dev level 30 just hard to get bps to drop from research academy

[finite crag]

Still closer to usable than kear

[sharp socket]

maybe its too early in the morning to ask, i dunno when the gph mains wake up, ill ask again in 6h

[remote yarrow]

it's 8PM

[undone plover]

u can use rudder on your backline if they are dying randomly
that is just a thing in ch14
make sure u are using 155 kai on your BBs and also that your boss fleet is properly staggered

[viscid swift]

the 14-2 boss is a bit of a precursor to the 15-2 boss

it is more like a single target fight than a something like a long mob fight and it does throw quite a number of planes at you

[haughty dust]

Did a test run and they didn’t die

[eager mulch]

8:17 pm

[frank pulsar]

that's an intercept issue, using tankier ship will not solve your problems
does your backline use 155 kai? and does your vanguard have enough surface dmg as well?

its quite difficult to completely defend against these boats with just 1 bb but you should still be able to kill most of them

[uneven badger]

alvitr or hood for hard mode campaign

[wispy pendant]

either work i think, but pretty sure hood is better when you have her aug

[uneven badger]

nuh uh i can put one of them

[stark quiver]

what level is hood

[remote yarrow]

I don't think you understood what Usui said , what he means is just pick whoever you want, though Hood is slightly better

[uneven badger]

alright then

[eager mulch]

[dawn crater]

Do PR ships consume dock slots?

[viscid swift]

yes

[dawn crater]

Ugh

[viscid swift]

my official response as always is to buy more dock space

[remote yarrow]

I mean, you make the choice to get the PR ships not like META ships that did use dock space before without you having a choice

[dawn crater]

My soul is craving for those promo rings right now so no

[remote yarrow]

Are you F2P?

Cuz it's not advisable to do so if you are

[dawn crater]

Yea im a peasant who survives from commissions

[viscid swift]

well you're shooting yourself in the foot then basically

[remote yarrow]

Almost 50 dock space for 2 rings that don't serve that much purpose gameplay wise

[dawn crater]

Id shoot my foot as many times to achieve the peak of simping for my ship

[stark quiver]

go ahead then

[dawn crater]

buys package

[remote yarrow]

Complains about dock space

[sharp socket]

yes both soyuz alsace have 155 kai, but my frontline’s has like no damage output

[viscid swift]

well you do you but you only have yourself to blame on the issue of dock space

[sharp socket]

its just agir jda portkai

[stark quiver]

what is said front line

[frank pulsar]

is that your boss or mob

[sharp socket]

boss

[stark quiver]

it may or may not get easier for boss fights

[sharp socket]

it does its job of not dying but it also doesnt kill

[frank pulsar]

with jda youre fine running a squishy dps in boss over portland

[remote yarrow]

Maybe put a Bulge on Agir if you haven't yet?

[sharp socket]

my one squishy dps is tai yuan and shes in mob

i guess i also have sandy there

the mob has no problems other than volga randomly dying and can get me 3rd star smoothly

[frank pulsar]

whats your mob vanguard
give volga a rudder in that case

[sharp socket]

ancho tai yuan sandykai

[frank pulsar]

do you have any other dpses? besides those two?

[viscid swift]

how long are you lasting in the boss fight exactly

[sharp socket]

here are my frontline, old pic, agir jda and tai yuan are 120 now

[frank pulsar]

yikes

[sharp socket]

[viscid swift]

I'm tempted to say f*ck it and just helena RNG your way through

[frank pulsar]

could try laffey over portland i guess

[stark quiver]

ik why youre not doing damage now

[viscid swift]

also why Portland and not Takao exactly

[sharp socket]

she could use manjuu, but it seems like my frontline isnt dying so i guess i can use takao

[viscid swift]

Takao is just a straight upgrade to Portland after all

not by much but still

[sharp socket]

i was told she wasnt

[frank pulsar]

she is after augment i think

[viscid swift]

she is
but Takao is much less cost effective than Portland which in this case is rather irrelevant

[sharp socket]

alright

[viscid swift]

or you can cope Eldridge retro comes to save you

[sharp socket]

so uh takao, helena or laffey

[viscid swift]

personally, I'd bet on Agir, Jeanne and Helena right now

or you could try Agir, Jeanne, Anchorage and have Takao mob tank

[eager mulch]

time?

[sharp socket]

alr ill go oath helena faster since i was planning to do that anyway, help with the stats a little

[frank pulsar]

helena gaming

[eager mulch]

always helena time

[frank pulsar]

theres a reason why i named my helena 'the corpse'

[plain saffron]

[eager mulch]

[solar canopy]

Fleet suggestions for map 15 that are less reliant on PR/DR/UR ships and UR equipment. Also included are recommendations for which PR/DR/UR/SSR ships and equipment should be prioritized for building on map 15.
sorry if I ask for a lot

[remote yarrow]

This isn't really worded like a question tho

[sharp socket]

sounds mildly impossible without many rainbows but im new player

[stark quiver]

that would take an unholy amount of optimizing

my suggestion is to hols off w15 until you have the right gear/ships to do so

[frank pulsar]

the more corners you cut, the more rng it becomes
youre better off not attempting until youre fully prepared

[sharp socket]

heavy optimising is a worse decision than waiting for more/better stuff in my experience

[remote yarrow]

Suboptimal ships and gear will most likely lead to you fail or need to manual + reset quite a few times for better RNG outcomes, better to hold off until then

W15 isn't going anywhere and there's no real need to rush content

[stark quiver]

BUT, if you rly do want some ships, itll prolly be
the standard backline for mob
musashi,aquila,unicorn

with a lot of sexys and 90mm

[eager mulch]

W15 isn’t going anywhere but W16 could be here any moment

[viscid swift]

I would wager that's not gonna be until next year

[frank pulsar]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/mobilebasic
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1Gt_GVB12YlYY1UVCPRpXtZn-ilmAlU3MS5y4qh_VBL4/htmlview#
w15 guide and w15 tierlist you can reference, both by suchiguma

[sharp socket]

resetting wouldnt be so ass if it didnt contribute so little to your clear, even if you reset for 1-2Δ nodes you still need a strong boss fleet and support fleet for the clear

13h is a good intermediary before hitting w15 so you can try things there, if it doesnt work in 13h it will not work in w15

[untold trout]

What can I work with for opsi?

[solar canopy]

well i got enlightenment about ship and equipment and priority to stroke shipgirls head a little longer and better. thanks for all information.

[keen sable]

not much

[untold trout]

Oof

[remote yarrow]

If you already got Mob and Boss fleets for campaign just use those for now

[untold trout]

Bet

[sharp socket]

you can send your dock in a thread and we can give some advice on what to go for, which you might want

[keen sable]

take your current mob and boss fleet and have at it. and no that doesn't mean agir, brest, hindy, or fdg.

[untold trout]

Uh, slight issue, brest is in my mob fleet...

[keen sable]

so bring back your real ships

[untold trout]

I don't remember who I was using before I started using brest

[remote yarrow]

Also, unrelated but are you even done with Rookie missions? Asking since that Portland isn't retro or did you just do the needed nodes?

[remote yarrow]

I'll take that as a yes

[sharp socket]

boss: NJ alsace vanguard, agir helena chapayev

mob: fdg unicorn volga, carl mogador z23

stack crossfleet on the other 2 fleets, this is my recommendation, take with salt

[keen sable]

i wonder how you did 2.4m of brest xp with only mog and brennus

[sharp socket]

it feels workable to me but i dont know if it is because i havent been playing with many ships

[solar canopy]

woo thanks. okay this is my rainbow/gold wife list. and also the purples that can be retrofitted

[keen sable]

but aurora can't be retrofitted

[sharp socket]

in a thread

[low juniper]

Should I craft Sextuple Bofors directly or should I buy the PR3 BPs from the protoype shop? I already have 2 champ guns plus Soyuz gun, and I have one Tenrai plus a Wyvern

[stark quiver]

crafting is better

[viscid swift]

I'd just craft them, they're not that expensive to get from the lab

[low juniper]

Alright

And is there a certain number I need or is it take as I need

I'm planning on giving it to Guam

[keen sable]

i have a grand total of 1

[untold trout]

I'm pretty sure that's precisely who I used when I was grinding brest

[low juniper]

Is it not that great of an AA gun?

[sharp socket]

it is good gun

[keen sable]

it has it's disadvantages

[soft raft]

you just dont need to mass produce the shit out of it
like i think i have 3 and im perfectly fine

[low juniper]

Like what

[soft raft]

short range

[low juniper]

So is the range averaged in a vanguard

[soft raft]

averaged through the whole fleet, including backline

[keen sable]

range is averaged with everyone

at least everyone with an aa gun. the time fuze people have their own range

[low juniper]

So the aim would be having some with fast rld, some with long range, and some with big dmg?

[stark quiver]

make it balanced, or whatever depending on what u need

[low juniper]

I see

[viscid swift]

swap Mogador and Chapayev around and probably Hood isntead of FDG with no telling how close that FDG is to dev 30

[solar canopy]

suggestion for pat pat shipgirls head for map 15.

[viscid swift]

AA is a bit of a mess frankly and not something that is that well understood to get the most out of it
it's a balancing between reload and range leaning more heavily towards one or the pther depending on how enemy planes come at you

[low juniper]

Understood

[stark quiver]

whats the formula for w15? leans fully towards damage?

i see

[sharp socket]

you can do math i suppose

[viscid swift]

I lean more towards Sextuple over Roomba for W15

[stark quiver]

i used sexys, 90's and ur aa

[atomic abyss]

Trying to do w15 without sextuples and 57s is just

[sweet delta]

I used 2 AA cheats

[vale spindle]

can cheshire function as a tank in chapter 15

[sharp socket]

UR AA have more dps less alpha, 6ofors have high alpha lower dps iirc

[atomic abyss]

More off tank

[stark quiver]

dunno what alpha dmg is

[sweet delta]

Needs to be a mighty good account for Cheshire to tank successfully

[vale spindle]

can jervis / otto / felix function as mob tanks in chapter 15

[sweet delta]

What are you cooking

[viscid swift]

off tank at best, I do not trust Cheshire to main tank W15
and no to Jervis, Otto, and Felix

[vale spindle]

want to attempt with no rainbow ships

[sharp socket]

initial damage / first strike damage

[keen sable]

good thing sandy isn't a ur

[stark quiver]

do retros count?

[sweet delta]

Base damage stat before all multipliers

[stark quiver]

good luck sam

[vale spindle]

with dido augment now, i can run dido + scylla and that should be good

[atomic abyss]

Sam I think you have a better chance with chesh as main tank at that point...

[sweet delta]

I recommend the Yat-sen sandy Ning

[vale spindle]

don't want to use sandy if possible

[atomic abyss]

Yat is unexpectedly useful for AA boosting

Since she has double AA mounts

She just doesn't have any AA of her own

[keen sable]

trust in shimanto fs5

[atomic abyss]

Honestly yeah, best mob tank should be shimanto

[stark quiver]

oh yea shimanto

[atomic abyss]

Sandy no Kai with Aug is almost certainly mandatory somewhere...

[sharp socket]

my knowledge of alpha damage is that its the first strike damage, i didnt know it had so many different meanings

[stark quiver]

speaking of shimanto, i have almost enough general bps to fs5 her, worth?

[atomic abyss]

It's not even out yet

[stark quiver]

wait actually yes, its worth

[vale spindle]

I also want to beat w15 before the maint so my account isnt bricked on the anni screenshot

[atomic abyss]

For all we know, the upgrade may be as small as fs5 ancho

[keen sable]

rld and range are averaged. damage is not. so you want big stick on big girl

[low juniper]

THe what

[sweet delta]

Bayard should be able to main tank better than shimanto. Then shimanto goes off tank

[stark quiver]

anni has a acc stat screen for u

[vale spindle]

Dont have bayard yet

[low juniper]

Hm

[vale spindle]

dont even have enough prints anyways

[low juniper]

I wonder what my stats will be

[keen sable]

dw plenty of time to use coobs

[stark quiver]

whatever your acc is at the moment of anni

[low juniper]

UR event is in September right

[ornate narwhal]

how can i quickly get purple gear?

[wind hazel]

open tech box

[low juniper]

Lmao obviously, I mean I wonder what kind of stats it shows

[stark quiver]

hold up lemme pull the ss

[wind hazel]

stuff like this

[sharp socket]

ah that exists, gotta speed up my w14 clear then

[stark quiver]

yea that

[wind hazel]

you'll see 15-3 on samheart564

[low juniper]

I see

[stark quiver]

rip sam

[vale spindle]

no plz

[keen sable]

lucky collection rate

[stark quiver]

are u determined to non UR your lethal clears?

[vale spindle]

yes otherwise i would have just copied the fleets in the guide

[sweet delta]

Is there no zero-rainbow-ship lethal three star 15-4 on youtube

[vale spindle]

I havent looked at YouTube

[keen sable]

no one will know you manualed

[zenith heron]

I wonder what will it be

[sweet delta]

Do you mean beat lethal or lethal three star ?

[vale spindle]

beat lethal is enough for me

[sweet delta]

just go win then

[vale spindle]

3 star i can do after the maint anyways nobody will know

[viscid swift]

my theory crafting says something like
Mob: Nelson/Owari/Izumo, Unicorn, Aquila, [tank], Shimanto, Sandy
Boss: Nelson/Owari/Izumo, Volga, Independence/Enterprise, Anchorage, Jeanne, Cheshire

[sharp socket]

what do yknow it exists

[sweet delta]

My testing says nelson and izumo suck

[sharp socket]

full auto lethal 15-4

[viscid swift]

that's Jimmy isn't it

[sharp socket]

yeah

[stark quiver]

pulled straight from the basement of AL

[sharp socket]

it was in oct 2023

[vale spindle]

Dont have a janus leveled yet but her skills are leveled so should be easy enough to get her up to speed

[sharp socket]

the fleet tech is rather busted too

[viscid swift]

well no kidding, tech, cats, oaths, plus 13 is do a lot of heavy lifting there

[vale spindle]

does 125 matter for cv support fleet or can they stay 120

[viscid swift]

it matters but relatively minor in the grand scheme of it

[sweet delta]

6% more HP is up to 12% more survivability in mob

[viscid swift]

though you may or may not have that luxury

[sweet delta]

Same with double mountain

[vale spindle]

would lvl 125 chen hai retro be better than lvl 120 albion in the support fleet

[sweet delta]

120 Chen hai retro is better than 120 Albion

Maybe Sam needs a thread

[vale spindle]

imma go eat food and do hoyo dailies then come back in about 3 hours +- 2 hours no need for one right this second

[sweet delta]

cant believe someone who didn't clear 15-4 writes guides for azulen

[vale spindle]

if you noticed i have been avoiding all the w15 questions people have had except the obvious stuff like "sandy retro good" "UR ships good" etc

[plain saffron]

Can't use his guide anymore

[left cedar]

~~i dint have a motive till this last stream then sudenly a high priority urge to clear and take the gems hit me so hard, idk why ~~

[sharp socket]

im writing my opsi guide while getting my ass kicked in 14-3

[frank pulsar]

i havent fully beaten 15-4 yet you just reminded me

[sharp socket]

i felt like a better guide was needed for people to grind opsi more efficiently, but its really just down to “clear everything”

[frank pulsar]

bring asw for 14-3 and 14-4, sandy with hedgehog and asw plane on uni is sufficient

[vale spindle]

I'll give you the entire opsi guide right now in under 10 lines

• buy 5k oil 1k voucher speedrun thingies
• strategic search all explorable and hidden
• "me see icon on zone me do"
• repeat until month end (remember new strongholds)
• strategic search on c5 with remaining AP
• buy shop stuff
• repeat

[soft raft]

huh why Sandy with the hedgehog

[worldly pewter]

the question is how will u clear everything especially for under 2 months accounts

[frank pulsar]

theyre running ancho tai yuan sandy

[soft raft]

doesnt Tai Yuan have better ASW stat than sandy?

[sharp socket]

im going to create a new account and do it that way ofc

[vale spindle]

You get partial rewards from arbiter and abyssals
Fractured seas are easy enough
all other bosses you can infinite try until win

[frank pulsar]

sandy has 1 more asw stat than tai yuan

[vale spindle]

Tai yuan also likes having box + s4g

but also external dd asw buffs lile shinano exist so raw stat isnt everything

[frank pulsar]

i dont think theyre using nano in mob

[plain saffron]

Clear all zone once(explorable)
Clear all hidden
Clear all abyssal(or partial reward)
Clear stronghold(heal if needed)
Kill arbiter(heal if needed)
Try hardbiter
Choose 1 of 3 options:
-spam c5
-spam c3
-spam c1 then c5/3

[vale spindle]

pretty sure shinano buffs dd asw

Forgot buy shops

[plain saffron]

Guide done can i get purple name now

[sharp socket]

this is basically my guide except eli5

[frank pulsar]

but yr already purple

[sweet delta]

New player here, can't find shop for step 1, bad instructions

[left cedar]

spam c1 !? idk Nagami ... u seens like cheese to me rn

[sharp socket]

also about you purple guys
does content creator mean u make yt vids or just making docs in general

[plain saffron]

Rn need YouTube

[vale spindle]

It means my prayers were answered by yostar gods

[frank pulsar]

c1 strat is valid, just takes a lot of time

[frank pulsar]

idk i just made 2 yt vids and called it a day

[vale spindle]

i dont even have a yt i just submitted my guide links

[plain saffron]

I've seen enough proof to accept that it's a valid strat, just up to you if you want to spend the time

I don't even have yt and i got rejected until i tried again with YouTube

[left cedar]

trade 0 or 1 for 0 - 2 cat spots dosnt seens a gud thing for me

[sharp socket]

i see no yt link in any of your bio

[frank pulsar]

of course not, id get flamed

[plain saffron]

You should see the spreadsheet with the data that shows net positive AP

Because my content is bad, for now

[frank pulsar]

~~time to rush 15-4 🏃 💨 ~~

[plain saffron]

For daily stage the rewards have fixed total count right

[sharp socket]

i found nagami but couldnt find the rest of you guys

[sweet delta]

Are you editing wiki?

you didn't find me?

[feral ravine]

Hello, Im new here

[finite crag]

hi new here

[viscid swift]

it does but I've also seen the data suggest that unless you commit really hard you actually stand quite a good chance at loosing AP by doing it

[feral ravine]

I come here from the reddit EN anniversary megathread giveaway

[sharp socket]

are you looking for gameplay help

[feral ravine]

I was told to come here from that thread since I won the 600 gem giveaway, and since I dont really use discord i have no idea what im doing

[plain saffron]

#6th-anniversary-announcement

[viscid swift]

wait, by who exactly?

[sweet delta]

There was a reddit giveaway?

[feral ravine]

The subreddit mods by private message

[sweet delta]

Are the subreddit mods even legit

[plain saffron]

Did they say to contact who

[viscid swift]

which subreddit even

[forest palm]

we're not affiliated with the Subreddit owners...

[vale spindle]

looks like a community event rather than an official event

[viscid swift]

yeah, neither subreddit is official affiliated with AL

[plain saffron]

It says they to dm revo

[viscid swift]

as far as I'm aware anyway

[vale spindle]

they said private message steampunk_revo, who is listed on the right in yellow username with staff role

[feral ravine]

How do I do that?

[plain saffron]

Iirc officials "take over" azurelane a while back so it's kinda official

[feral ravine]

As I said, I never used discord before

[vale spindle]

message something like "hello" in the message section and press enter, then it opens the private message chat

then after that you can send your screenshots of proof, just drag and drop image

[plain saffron]

Are you on mobile or desktop

[feral ravine]

Desktop

[plain saffron]

Click on his name on right side to open this

[feral ravine]

Like this?

[plain saffron]

Right aide of what you seeing right now

[strange sphinx]

hello Sam, when long Island meta

[plain saffron]

Yes you're done

[vale spindle]

yes, now just wait until they reply and u good

[plain saffron]

Wiki giveaway when

[feral ravine]

Oh ok, thanks guys, never used discord before so I have no idea what im doing lmao

[vale spindle]

they are hired employees and timezones are weird so it might take some time for a reply whilst they manage everything

[vale spindle]

when you quick takeoff repeatedly until phone freezes

[sweet delta]

You mean burn, not freeze

[plain saffron]

Both

[timid beacon]

Any easier way to get gold retrofit prints

Hard mode ain’t dropping nothing!

[vale spindle]

guild shop (rng)

[timid beacon]

Thanks I forgot I could get them from there too

I can finally have my first retro fit ship helena

[mint flint]

no unicorn?

[timid beacon]

U just reminded me

Thanks I forgot I have a lot of those for her

[viscid swift]

Portland would take priority over Helena for Cruiser retrofit blueprints

[worldly pewter]

3☆ hard stages

[viscid swift]

And as a whole Unicorn, your starter and Portland have higher priority

[sharp socket]

should i give her roomba or twin 90 considering her AA is rather high

[viscid swift]

Who?

[sharp socket]

helena

[timid beacon]

I’m not using Portland

[viscid swift]

You will in the near future among other things

[soft raft]

you should be

[viscid swift]

You'll need to work 2 fleets sooner rather than later

[viscid swift]

She's probably got the best AA of the 3 so Sextuple

[sharp socket]

alr ill go craft one

[atomic rock]

is 12-3 12-4 bosses light-armored?

[ebon oxide]

when should we start a 2nd fleet, after unlocking 9-1? or later?

[candid meteor]

vit-2 best converg torp?

[forest palm]

Mod VIT-2 is a sidegrade to the current 3 Converging TBs

so it depends on if the Mod VIT-2 matches the timing you're looking for

[viscid swift]

You really want to at least start leveling ships for a 2nd fleet by the time you get to 9-1

[cloud fractal]

I cannot research Hakuryuu yet because I’m still working on fleet tech. Everything else in 4 is finished. Can I research Hindenburg? Or should I just jump right to Napoli?

(No reason for Hindenburg other than I like her a lot)

[limpid warren]

What’s the max level for lecture hall again?

[keen sable]

12

[tired condor]

is plymouth best cl

[keen sable]

best brainless probably

[atomic abyss]

I mean you can do whatever you want
As long as you don't switch your PR focus from 4
I would get your PR3 ship if you haven't completed your PR missions yet

[forest palm]

one of, sure, hard to define a particular ship as the best

[stark quiver]

i mean best for what she does(?)

[forest palm]

I'd just throw Helena on the table lol

[tired condor]

is fdg usable at less than dev 30

[forest palm]

nope

[novel condor]

Nope

[tired condor]

is it better than purples tho

cuz thats all i have for fleet tech

[atomic abyss]

No on most cases

She doesn't have mgm+2 before dev 30

So she's about doing a third less as she would

[tired condor]

shes at dev 25, i should stil use gnei then right

just get cexp for avp

[keen sable]

you have tech for avp...

[atomic abyss]

Honestly...
The best purple there is little Fried herself lol

[tired condor]

combat exp i mean

[atomic abyss]

If you're just doing CDC then it doesn't really matter what you use

As long as you're not say, trying to drag them thru w13 or over, you'll be fine

[rain bobcat]

did the livetsream show what skin reruns will come

[keen sable]

seyd + thor is a fine combo and i I think gz makes ib a lot less painful for day to day stuff

[atomic abyss]

Usually they rerun skins from recent annis

But no announcement otherwise

[rain bobcat]

is it safe to assume its only last year and maybe 2022

been dreading drake skin perma for a while since I keep going on hiatus on black friday

[left cedar]

Sey and Thor !?

far as i remember, Thor is used for CAs ... and we dont get a thor yet, not in AL ...

[cloud fractal]

I haven't. Plan is to continue PR IV as the focus until everything is maxed, or at least has the BPs to be maxed when the appropriate level. I figure Hindenburg is decent for what she is and I can, considering the ships that I'm leveling to 120 now, finish her research relatively quickly compared to Napoli (Haku is still the primary target though).

But I've been a sucker for Hindenburg since I started the game.

[keen sable]

you can dev whoever you feel like as long as you don't mind the -1 dock space. use whoever at your own risk

[soft raft]

Hinden won't be going anywhere
She won't vanish off the face of the earth for two years, you got plenty of time in the future

[rain bobcat]

comrade

[atomic abyss]

Well if you want her that much by all means, as long as you're aware you won't be making use of Hinden much
You may want to consider moving to complete your other PR missions - the combat data packs given can be exchanged for protocore after all

[quartz wyvern]

Upcoming is SRx2, Ex2?

[atomic abyss]

SR x3, E x2

[cloud fractal]

I'm actually finishing PR IV missions this week. Will be on to V.

[rain bobcat]

[short wagon]

yall i just got fdg do i just level her up as much as possible now

[eager mulch]

no

[short wagon]

what do i do

[eager mulch]

useless without dev levels

[short wagon]

i need to level her up so i can get the dev levels

[eager mulch]

then level her up using books/dorm

[short wagon]

yeah thats what i mean

i wouldnt be using a 3* fdg

[tired condor]

are any pr7s good

prolly cat right

[left cedar]

theorically, DRs are really gud
PRs stand for gold ships ...

w8 something like 50 days and try it again ... till there noone probally it will have them D30 to test and have sure how they perform ...

[ornate narwhal]

when is the next banner?

[fluid brook]

15th August

[earnest flare]

is ap or he better for medium armor

[sweet delta]

The best AP guns are better than the best HE guns against medium armor. For now.

bad AP guns are worse than good HE guns

[warm flax]

What's Arizona's Meta Boss mechanics?

[warm condor]

At stage 2, it already asks for a 2nd fleet. Do I just put in whoever, or it has to be as specific like my fleet 1 where I spent I think an hour last night asking here about.

[stark quiver]

Throw in any 2nd fleet but use only one

[frank pulsar]

ignore second fleet until world 9, just randomly put in ship for now

[warm condor]

What's the flat thing in the back line? The middle slot

[stark quiver]

Heavy armor vanguard killer

[frank pulsar]

boss will deploy smoke periodically that does DoT and slows your vanguard while theyre in it
just use a couple of boilers and maybe a beaver badge to counter it

[warm flax]

DoT?

[frank pulsar]

damage over time

[warm flax]

Ok

[warm condor]

What is the point of the FLAG thing in the middle back row?

[keen sable]

she die, you lose

[warm condor]

So I put a vanguard there?

[keen sable]

you can't...

[warm condor]

Someone big?

[keen sable]

it's for mains

[stark quiver]

Usually a battleship

[warm condor]

I'm gonna run out of ammunition. I still have 4 and 5 enemies are here. What happens if I run out>?

[keen sable]

-50% damage dealt

[warm condor]

Trying to do 3 stars and it asks that I clear the entire map

So I need to use fleet 2 to at least kill off 2 enemies

Or just tank the -50%

[eternal moth]

You just take the -50% most of the time. What chapter are you on?

[warm condor]

2

How many chapters are there?

[keen sable]

tank as you call it

[eternal moth]

Then yeah, you should be fine. If you have problems, go back a stage and get more levels

[keen sable]

15

[warm condor]

Why are they blinking red?

[fluid brook]

Maybe they are in fire

[dusk maple]

skill buff

[warm condor]

pretty alarming for a "buff"

[eager mulch]

is that sandwich portland?

[little tree]

Is this hard or no ?

[plain saffron]

Kinda, wait until more adapts

It's easier compared to normal arbiter though
Just try it

[little tree]

Okay do I need to worry about fleets and gear?

[plain saffron]

You lose nothing if you lose anyway

[finite crag]

+13 plygun to musashi or jda for w15

i have another one but only +10 who gets what

[stark quiver]

jda

gets +13

[warm condor]

What do you spend your oil on if you are stuck in a stage?