gameplay-help

[soft raft]

#game-news message

[viscid swift]

limited 30 blueprint catchup for Ruppchrect

[stark quiver]

free bonus bps

[keen sable]

ruppy bonus

[thorn tartan]

ty

[keen sable]

tap, scroll, tap, EN

[mystic topaz]

For purposes of the lecture hall and generating data packs, are only certain rarity able to push to L100+ or all ships can, and should one do so on a purple ship as a completely new player?

[keen sable]

all

[viscid swift]

all ships in the game you are able to 125, the current level cap

[soft raft]

all ships can reach the max lvl of 125
as long as the ship is at least lvl 100, they'll generate XP for lecture hall

[plain saffron]

for EN all that lvl100+

[mystic topaz]

Thanks I'm guessing reaching 100+ still requires a lot of exp

[viscid swift]

2.115 million XP is needed to get a non UR ship from level 100 to 120

and another 1.3 million and change for 120 to 125

[sharp socket]

is vh plating + washing machine good for agir or just bulge/toolkit + washing machine is better

[keen sable]

1120675 or 374 xp packs or around 8 days worth

[soft raft]

VH Plating doesnt really have much benefit on Agir when she's already Heavy Armor by default
the resulting alternate buffs for her are pretty whatever

What content are you doing anyways

[sharp socket]

14-3 and 14-4

[soft raft]

Washing + Torp bulge

[hollow gust]

anti torp benefits her more

[sharp socket]

alr

[soft raft]

she would definetly like Torp bulge more as torpedoes are relatively more deadly against heavy armor compared to medium

[sharp socket]

seal + torp/toolkit/tablet for tai yuan? for w14

[signal leaf]

so within a 45 degree angle, the torpedo fires at a 45 degree angle?

[viscid swift]

Seal plus Toolkit

[rapid grail]

seal + toolkit for survivability

[sharp socket]

will i use a mk6 or 410kai for fdg for 14-3

[viscid swift]

preferably a 457 but if not then a Champaign gun

[sharp socket]

14-3 is light tho right

[sweet delta]

In this hypothetical example with a 45 degree firing angle torp, if there is an enemy within a 45 degree angle AND at a close enough distance (firing range), the torpedo fires at an angle centered around the enemy

[viscid swift]

oh you mean boss Mk6 then

[sharp socket]

mob still med/heavy?

[viscid swift]

though to be completely honest, I have never once specified to switch to HE for the 14-3 boss and it has never come up as an issue...

[viscid swift]

yes, same guns as usual for mobbing on all W13 stages

[sweet delta]

I'm sure some people with AP will fail it

[sharp socket]

switching gear isnt a big deal and ill do it for any advantage i can get

[keen sable]

torps have a spread. spread does what it does

[sharp socket]

i wont be farming it anyway so its fine

[signal leaf]

im not talking about the spread angle im talking about the firing angle

[viscid swift]

no, just found it amusing how often I've recced W14 fleets and it has never once come up

either people wised up themselves or the 14-3 bosses are pushovers

[sharp socket]

i read the wiki alot

[finite crag]

maybe they dont beat it and just forget about it

[viscid swift]

if there were issues it would pretty much always be reported

quite a number about mobs dying but never once did not being able to beat the 14-3 boss ever come up

[sweet delta]

I may remember someone lost on the boss and just used the Musashi mob fleet for it

[plain saffron]

the center of the torp spread can't exceed the 45 degree firing angle

because they fire at the center, then the torp spread

[sharp socket]

it seems like my OS CV fleet does really poorly, even worse than my mob, do i need to give them all converging planes

[plain saffron]

it's a boss fleet so yes

converging torp or rocket fighter depending on enemy

[grizzled sundial]

What is the difference between evasion and luck stat ? In game seems to suggest they do the same thing.

[signal leaf]

like this?

[viscid swift]

/luck

[keen sable]

what are those red dots even?

[forest palm]

use your brain

[signal leaf]

what do you think they are genius?

[eager mulch]

stars

[grizzled sundial]

Incoming planes .

[signal leaf]

definitely planes

[remote yarrow]

Berries

[viscid swift]

ok ignoring that
luck plays a small role in hitting, critting, evading, etc

[eager mulch]

cutting

[forest palm]

chopping

[plain saffron]

using quint as example it can be any of this

[eager mulch]

mood rn

[plain saffron]

as long as the CENTER is in the angle

[grizzled sundial]

Roon have zero luck , wonder why.

[forest palm]

that's normal for research ships until they get fate sim

[viscid swift]

she's a PR ship, all PR ships start with 0 luck

[plain saffron]

paper ship never exist so we don't know how lucky they are irl

[forest palm]

PR get 15, DR get 25(?)

[eager mulch]

my roon has 15 luck

[viscid swift]

yeah not even gonna touch that argument....

[plain saffron]

that's why fate simulation

[sharp socket]

so ill have something like this?

[eager mulch]

sync indep kai cursed

[sweet delta]

AvP Enty desync

[viscid swift]

well for one, you're basically not getting Independence synced because of her early strike so rather a wasted effort to try

[sharp socket]

my other cv option is sara

DB cant converge

[sweet delta]

DB always converge

[viscid swift]

no but they do benefit from having a target be stationary as well

[signal leaf]

is this another pattern error or have I never seen torps go up before

[sharp socket]

i thought DB just carpet bombs the map

[viscid swift]

no, they do have targetting as well

[plain saffron]

because they aim at enemy and most likely you never had enemy at top of the vg

[forest palm]

is it time for the Shokaku tech

[plain saffron]

the center is aimed towards enemy

[sweet delta]

Or maybe he's a manual only gamer

[plain saffron]

ouh right i forgot about that

[sharp socket]

so i have something like this then

i dunno how to sync these guys

[forest palm]

go play with Bomb's calculator

[sweet delta]

For medium or light boss yes

[sharp socket]

ah theres a cv calculator too

pls link

[sweet delta]

That is roughly synced

[viscid swift]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

[forest palm]

I'll never remember his new name

[humble iris]

Is Jeanne d'arc a tank

[viscid swift]

no, she does make your vanguard tankier though

[sweet delta]

No, she makes tanks

[humble iris]

So a support

[plain saffron]

is there ever a time devs gives equip bp in mail?

[forest palm]

yes, she's a support first, and foremost, and isn't expected to do damage

[humble iris]

Is she even good

[forest palm]

as a support, yes

[sharp socket]

has someone pre calced specific plane setups before

[humble iris]

Tell me I didn't waste my 20 cubes on light for her 😭

[viscid swift]

you did, because you can also farm her from the War Archives

[plain saffron]

usually on META fight CM specific fleet only

if that 20 is 1 per day then no, if 20 on 1 day then yes because you never want to do that

[sleek spade]

Hey guys does the perk from fire control table work on alsace or does the precharge shot count as first salvo?

[plain saffron]

only 1 per day on light, unless event which you go pull event

[viscid swift]

it does work on her

[sleek spade]

Nice thank you

[plain saffron]

if 1st already loaded it apply to next one

[keen sable]

preload is not a load

but fast load is

[elfin hollow]

Should I research her or move on to pr6

[forest palm]

there's a fleet builder link that floats around with builds for the 2 major CV fleets, and assumes their affection is all the same

[stark quiver]

You should complete the rest of pr5 bp wise

[viscid swift]

doesn't really matter since you won't have blueprints for the ship either way

[sharp socket]

if they can just stop enemy ships whenever, wont the calc just be for stop time against fly time and bomb travel time

[keen sable]

I'm sure there's more. why do you keep asking about mail?

[plain saffron]

you sync them so that the other 2 can make use of the stop yes

[elfin hollow]

I can get blueprints ☠️

[forest palm]

would honestly just move on to PR7, but that's me

[elfin hollow]

I just wanta know which ship to research next

[viscid swift]

yes but it'll take a few months at least to get enough blueprints to dev 30 any of them

[elfin hollow]

Idm the wait tbh

[plain saffron]

i would research 1 season at a time, but tbh just build whoever bcs gonna need a while to get bp for them

[viscid swift]

and non max limit broken ships are pretty useless mostly and you can be done with the XP grind much quicker

[sharp socket]

do all converge torp projectile travel at the same speed

[plain saffron]

:SaraWink:

[stark quiver]

Nagami site?

[elfin hollow]

Yeah

[late flame]

nagami obsessed with mail doing uh research

[forest palm]

travel speed should all be the same, however where the payload lands can be different

[elfin hollow]

Im stubborn thou so What ship to research next

[viscid swift]

For that reason it really doesn't matter a certain point which ships you unlock first

[stark quiver]

Shimanto

[keen sable]

who you develop is fairly irrelevant

[plain saffron]

prob go do any of the lower pr so you can coins them daily

[signal leaf]

I still dont get this they dont go outside the cone, they always fire horizontal no what matter where I am and out of range

[plain saffron]

do you play manual?

[signal leaf]

auto most of the time

[sharp socket]

im figuring out how to calc this cause i think the calc site is just launch timing, and doesnt include projectile travel time to target

[elfin hollow]

Someone told me to get this one due to
admiral’s buff

[sweet delta]

[elfin hollow]

Should i get her?

[warm flax]

How many battles for safe mode?

[sweet delta]

Someone trolled you

[sharp socket]

cv syncing is so much more complicated than bb syncing

[elfin hollow]

Oh

[keen sable]

tap lethal

[stark quiver]

For one admiral isn’t even useful at this stage

[remote yarrow]

Or it was someone from #al-general

[sweet delta]

Each final boss kill drops threat by 1 level

[forest palm]

CV syncing is easy, and you can cave man eye ball it, I've done that for ages lol

[sweet delta]

Same deal?

[warm flax]

How many levels then

[remote yarrow]

Trolls + ppl who don't know much the game

[plain saffron]

higher stage 10, lower stage need lower amount

[viscid swift]

really it's a case of don't worry about it, just try and get it as tight as you can with AvP going 2nd

[forest palm]

either way you shouldn't care about torpedo travel speed, or payload distance, it all just has to be within the time constraints of the CC

[plain saffron]

click the banner

[keen sable]

needs arrows

[sharp socket]

oh i dont need to make a timeline thing?

[viscid swift]

I never have

[forest palm]

nor have I

[wind hazel]

timeline

[sweet delta]

You can't fool me just by swiping one chapter over. I know you were farming 2-4!

[viscid swift]

you'll see something like this
threat level evaluation is how many more runs you need till safe

[signal leaf]

fuck it we ball firing angle is a lie

[stark quiver]

No, word of advice copy others’ homework

[sweet delta]

Maybe try looking harder

[forest palm]

eye balling CV sync's is fun imo

[dense eagle]

Do we know if we'll get a UR from the Anni? I'm low on cubes been having bad luck recently

[viscid swift]

I'm 99% certain this upcoming event will not have a gacha UR

[eager mulch]

1%

[viscid swift]

emphasis on gacha UR

[forest palm]

comeback in like 12 hrs when the stream starts

[north gazelle]

You will get it don't worry

[keen sable]

1.2%

[late flame]

luck can be overcome by whaling

[dense eagle]

You will win, gamble

[forest palm]

you wanna know what we're going to get on the 15th, watch this

[dense eagle]

Ok hope that's the case

[north gazelle]

Nah I don't have that much luck

[stark quiver]

luck is overrated

[plain saffron]

this is harder than expected but here it's doing it

sara why do you miss

[forest palm]

typical American

[signal leaf]

Thanks for making a video Thats the firing angle right

[sweet delta]

Angles are invisible

[eager mulch]

saratoga bad or smth ig

[plain saffron]

also if enemy are outside range or the angle it fires straight

[remote yarrow]

wdym I can see them here

[keen sable]

sara miss you

[signal leaf]

Is it like this but the black lines are within the cone

[plain saffron]

i was using 45 degree as example

[signal leaf]

yeah im using that as a example

[forest palm]

[plain saffron]

the CENTER is within the cone

[eager mulch]

[signal leaf]

center of what ive beeing meaning to ask

[plain saffron]

then yes

[viscid swift]

center of the torpedo spread, in this case it's the 3rd torp

[signal leaf]

So anything within the firing angle of like lets say 75 degrees, it then spreads out in a lets say 60 degree?

[sweet delta]

Is this a good laudacieux damage?

[viscid swift]

I'll be completely honest and say I have no idea what exactly you mean in the 2nd half

[signal leaf]

hol up let me draw

[signal leaf]

this

[remote yarrow]

not to scale

[signal leaf]

yes this is what i was gonna draw

[sharp socket]

i thought i had to make something like this but more precise

[plain saffron]

i know 5 years of high school is worth it

[signal leaf]

I hate trigonometry (NOT RELATED)

[eager mulch]

only 5 smh, didn’t stay long enough

[viscid swift]

I'm just gonna use this wows Screenshot to Illustrate things

[plain saffron]

why didn't you take this out earlier

[keen sable]

anime taught me high school is 3 years so that's left behind for 2?

[viscid swift]

the wide green area is the firing angles of your torpedoes

[remote yarrow]

You drew this?

[forest palm]

I wanted to see Naga struggle more

[signal leaf]

yes that was i was gonna draw

[viscid swift]

the highlighted green area is the spread of your torpedoes

[signal leaf]

professional artist 🙏

[plain saffron]

uhh here it's 6 primary 5 secondary. idk if high school is correct term

[viscid swift]

the center of your spread cannot go past the edges of your firing angles

[sharp socket]

in wows the torps shoot parallel to each other

[eager mulch]

but what about tea torps

[sweet delta]

Is this a super uni?

[signal leaf]

Like this right

[plain saffron]

that can happen yes

[signal leaf]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN ITS LITERALLY THE SAME THING

[sweet delta]

That is an impossible situation

[plain saffron]

wait did i misunderstand something

[sweet delta]

Torp can't aim between two enemies

[remote yarrow]

This is fun to watch

[plain saffron]

ouh there's enemies

[signal leaf]

it can hit two enemies

[plain saffron]

it just aim at one

[signal leaf]

it can not specifcally aim at two enemies

[sharp socket]

torp will aim towards one enemy, other hits are collateral damage

[plain saffron]

the center is towards an enemt

[eager mulch]

[plain saffron]

like here the center is towards nothing

[keen sable]

I am a genius

[eager mulch]

no, you’re uniquename

[plain saffron]

you mean ununiquename

[signal leaf]

not to scale and not totally accurate

but still core concept is the same

[plain saffron]

#ftfy #art #follow

[eager mulch]

gn smo0tie

[viscid swift]

I have completely lost the plot, will just go back to watching anime

[remote yarrow]

gn turtle

[sharp socket]

so if the enemy is standing still and the angle is wide enough they will miss

[rapid grail]

angles in my game

[plain saffron]

that's why you use magnetic

[keen sable]

quads have no torps that hit solitary stationary enemies

[remote yarrow]

I'm playing BTD6

[plain saffron]

though there could be multiple mobs so they will hit something at least

[signal leaf]

wait a minute

[eager mulch]

what if im cooper

[remote yarrow]

gn both of you

[signal leaf]

who will turtle be tonight

[plain saffron]

that can happen yes

[sharp socket]

im playing rn and torps just straight up pass through the enemy sometimes

[plain saffron]

does torp aim also based on enemy prio?

[signal leaf]

sir this is a wendys

[plain saffron]

so it's just random enemy that is in range?

[signal leaf]

yeah basically

[crimson glacier]

how do you know

[signal leaf]

its a red dot alright

[crimson glacier]

idk you kinda seem like a guy to say random bs

[remote yarrow]

Wait why are you answering when you were the one asking the question in the first place

[signal leaf]

I dont know anymore my brain is fried

[sharp socket]

talking about torps gave him knowledge on the torps

[signal leaf]

well torva no I am the not the type

[keen sable]

why couldn't it be closest like guns and other torps?

[plain saffron]

bcs idr if that's how guns works

my brain is full with mails

[signal leaf]

my brain is now the perfect temperature to eat

deepfried yum

[plain saffron]

[jaunty vault]

deepfried icecream

[novel condor]

stir fry cooper

[umbral briar]

is this weapon important? it has a warning code

[viscid swift]

Gangut wants it

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

[signal plover]

Guys, do you perhaps know what's the ost playing during joffre's second memory? The one in the church?
Also sorry if I asked here but I wasn't sure of where to ask

[plain saffron]

#al-lore prob know more

anyway this one?

[opaque hill]

Guys I have a question should I pull for New Jersey (I need 1 copy to max limit break her) or should I pull for shimakaze (I don’t have her)

[plain saffron]

save for event

[remote yarrow]

None of the above, don't pull in permanent banner

[plain saffron]

pull event then claim NJ when 400 spark

[remote yarrow]

Specially when you only have 40 cubes

In your case I would even consider skipping next event if the ships aren't that good since you only got 40 and save for UR

[hollow gust]

You have zwei anyway

[remote yarrow]

Also that, why get NJ who's the worst gacha BB when you have Zwei who's the best

[signal plover]

Yep, thx a bunch

[opaque hill]

Is she bad? I’ll wait til next event if the ships are good

[remote yarrow]

Don't get me wrong, NJ is still better than 90% of BBs, but compared to other Gacha UR BBs she falls behind

[crimson glacier]

NJ is pretty much the weakest gacha UR BB

[opaque hill]

Gotcha

[plain saffron]

well she's almost MLB so why not, still better than the rest

but still, don't pull permanent

[remote yarrow]

And since UR Bulins are so limited you better save them for posibly a better option, just wait for 400/400 to get another NJ copy if you want

[opaque hill]

I won’t 🫡

[signal plover]

You can do 1 pull in the light ships banner everyday since the daily mission gives you one back
Then get her with the 400 guarantee

[plain saffron]

you'll hit spark on next event

[opaque hill]

That’s smart I didn’t think of that

[plain saffron]

because event (without UR) counts

[signal plover]

Ye
I always do 1 daily pull on light too
2 free drills

[remote yarrow]

But don't go too crazy, I would say do 3 daily at most, cuz then again you only have 40 cubes

[opaque hill]

If I see a ship I want I’ll just buy cubes lol

[remote yarrow]

You aren't F2P are you?

[opaque hill]

Nope

[remote yarrow]

ok cuz buying cubes as a F2P is a really bad idea

[plain saffron]

cubes are kinda easy to get as long as you play the game and manage your resources, better to whale for skins instead

[opaque hill]

You’re right

[plain saffron]

but that's your money so thank for paying server bills

[remote yarrow]

Also that, you get 168 guaranteed cubes every month if you are active + whatever you get from commissions

[opaque hill]

Im active everyday

[remote yarrow]

Well, in any case any other questions regarding any topic?

[opaque hill]

Lemme think for a bit

[whole crypt]

as someone who has experience in whaling for builds... don't

[crisp estuary]

[frank pulsar]

cube is like, one of the worst way to spend gem imho

im casual (kinda) player and i get arnd 200-220 cube per month

no reason to spend gem on it

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething back in my day no coins

[crisp estuary]

Back in my day, we have to manually select each fight and we had to click so many times

[whole crypt]

we still do, for first clear

but as a reminder oil cap is less than 4 years old at this point

including the bonus coins that come with it

[jaunty vault]

[whole crypt]

aren't you old enough to remember as well coops

[jaunty vault]

i witnessed the 2-1 brainrot, yes

and the 7-2

[whole crypt]

I probably did 7-2 more, 2-1 was less of a thing before autosearch unless you CN botter

[stark quiver]

Farming 1-1

[plain saffron]

farming pr exp on 7-2 with 1:1 fleet

[whole crypt]

1-1C affinity is still a thing if you really want to...

[plain saffron]

there's still a possibility of affinity per fight depends on stage, not enough data yet

[whole crypt]

well unless you're stuck with too much recon 1-1C is strictly only bottlenecked by morale

[whole crypt]

on average does it still just come up to about 1/16 though

[bold salmon]

is worth having 2 unicorns for w15?

[whole crypt]

it's not worth having 2 of anything for anything

[plain saffron]

i haven't do any calc yet but it's rng between 0.01 to 0.09 per fight

with no mvp bonus

[keen sable]

in my small sample size, about but less

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Talk:Affinity

[whole crypt]

well if it's even between 0.01 to .09 the average is 1/20 so...

[keen sable]

yep i first noticed when i was trying to reverify dorm affinity mechanics. in the end it turns out all affinity is rng

[whole crypt]

ah well... no matter, just use till 100/200

[keen sable]

of greater consequence to us is if blessing event is +1 every 6 minutes which means i would need 3 more events for @200

[plain saffron]

should be 0.01 i think

[whole crypt]

I have no plans on doing 200aff for my lv1 oaths so...

[icy cave]

when farming levels, do i set one fleet to all enemies? or just clear it normally

[plain saffron]

normally

[icy cave]

okok thanks

[keen sable]

aww. most L1 oaths is also an achievement.

[broken pivot]

Came back to ask a question

Uh, does Soyuz necessarily need an NP backline to really perform well

[stark quiver]

no

[prime kraken]

is 9 the max level of faction fleet techs?

[forest palm]

Yes

[broken pivot]

Anyway, am I cooked or cooking with this

(finally got around to leveling up Soyuz as a better main BB)

[remote yarrow]

What even is this for

[forest palm]

Cooked

[broken pivot]

Simple answer, uh, everything

[remote yarrow]

Simple answer, uh, that doesn't exist

[finite crag]

were it so easy

[broken pivot]

(I don't do actually hard content, I just play events and leave)

[forest palm]

You burnt the food sinple enough

[finite crag]

then you can close your else and pick 6 random ships

[broken pivot]

[remote yarrow]

I mean, if you are not going past W12 or D3/SP in events sure it works but it's all over the place

[broken pivot]

Actually, most of the time this fleet (or a version where everyone is lvl 125) can actually beat stuff like SP/EX alone

[remote yarrow]

for EX

[broken pivot]

(I do have a sorta secondary fleet but I just don't use it much and just end up having the single fleet attack with no ammo since I don't feel like using the other)

[broken pivot]

Beat the EX in the Alsace event

[stark quiver]

all ex is possible with unicorn and #justdodge

[broken pivot]

Tho to be fair it was with NJ and Enty instead of what it is rn

[finite crag]

did you manual

[broken pivot]

This is what I actually used

[broken pivot]

Yes, tho my dodging skill isn't the best

[finite crag]

there we go

[stark quiver]

#justdodge

[broken pivot]

#justdodge

[finite crag]

now try autoing

[broken pivot]

[remote yarrow]

Well idk what else you want us to tell you

[stark quiver]

anyways, what are your goals in this game, we can go from there

[broken pivot]

(btw i just wanna know, is it technically the wrong thing to join a server for like 10 minutes and leave)

[stark quiver]

?

[finite crag]

i dont know

[remote yarrow]

What does that have to do with gph tho

[broken pivot]

Honestly at this point idk

I just play when there's events and stuff and mostly ignore it outside of dailies when there isnt

[stark quiver]

interesting, well in that case do as you want honestly

[mystic topaz]

What happens when you try to build or obtain a new ship but run out of dock space?

[plain saffron]

same thing as normal warning

[vale spindle]

if its a map drop ship, then they just get added and overcap ur dock space

[remote yarrow]

Well you can't claim it from build or sortie when your dock is full, you get a warning to either enhance, retire or buy more dock space

[vale spindle]

if its from build you can't claim the build until you open dock space

[plain saffron]

but you can't fight with 0 dock space so that only happens with 2x

[vale spindle]

if its from commissions or claiming event rewards, they also get added and overcap ur dock space

[mystic topaz]

Thanks everyone 🙏🏽

[vale spindle]

yea don't worry they don't delete ships from ur dock if you overcap

[keen sable]

this can only really happen with HELP i think

[vale spindle]

yes i believe thats correct

[plain saffron]

😔

[vale spindle]

if i have 14k sync points i can still get 25k before wichita meta leaves right

asking for a friend, thanks

[ebon oxide]

Does the dock space upgrade in guild tech carry over if I switch guilds?

thx

[frank pulsar]

all the upgrades in guild tech stay no matter how much you switch guilds

[ebon oxide]

so...is dock space a good first guild upgrade?

[remote yarrow]

Tho guild upgrades require contribution and leaving a guild resets it

[plain saffron]

buying new upgrades does, existing unaffected

[finite crag]

whats the best vanguard for medium/heavy cv fleet

[hollow gust]

Sakura?

[finite crag]

haku nano

[hollow gust]

Guam kazegumo Sirus good enough

[finite crag]

thanks

[mystic topaz]

If i enhance lower rarity gear, can it be recycled later, even at a penalty, so that i can use on higher rarity gear?

My bad for the ping

[civic crag]

Yes but the penalty is like 90% of ur stuff is gone

[elfin hollow]

guys what stages do you farm your oil with when there is no event going on?

[keen sable]

12+

[elfin hollow]

And then just level some ships?

[keen sable]

L1 ships can survive 12

[mystic topaz]

Ah, i see, should i like refrain from enhancing low rarity gear until i get better? Something tells me i gotta take a loss eventually

[prime kraken]

whats the best way to deal with aircrafts in manual? moving backward?

[keen sable]

I do alright at avoiding completely trash gear

[eternal basalt]

Recycled only when used in gear lab, otherwise all is lost

[stark quiver]

Yes

[shell willow]

just having the planes in your aa circle in general ig (which involves moving back sometimes)

[stark quiver]

Which 90% of the time is moving back bc your fleet should kill planes normally but if it can’t then move back to catch the remaining ones

[eternal basalt]

As if we not all play Auto

[prime kraken]

i cant auto boss 13-4 hard 😭

[finite crag]

well obviously the guy asking for manual isnt

[urban spruce]

I'm thinking of getting one of these two for Bismarck, she currently has a purple tier "Type 91 AP Shell" equiped

Which would be better for her, or neither?

[elfin hollow]

left

[elfin hollow]

i got help with building mine some days ago from here in a thread, this is what a good bismarck would look

[urban spruce]

Kay, thank you!

[elfin hollow]

No problem :)

[urban spruce]

Nice! I already got the UR table thingy!

[finite crag]

obv this is only light armor, use diff gun for med/heavy

[elfin hollow]

thats the one for w14

[frank pulsar]

imho 457 > champy gun here but it work

[urban spruce]

This is my current Bismarck

[elfin hollow]

Ohh i tought u talk about bismarck 2

[frank pulsar]

regular bismarck
i highly recommend againts using her, she use same equip as bismarck 2 but normal one is kinda bricked

[urban spruce]

Naw, I don't have Zwei right now

[frank pulsar]

even purple bb are better than regular bismarck

[atomic abyss]

og biscuit is really ass yeah

[urban spruce]

She's still useful to me, tho I'm only on world 13

[hollow gust]

Shes only good cause you pumped everything into her

[atomic abyss]

likely because you haven't raised anything better

[hollow gust]

If you put that same investment into a Nelson Kai , you won't be stuck

[frank pulsar]

cv is just better than bb in world 13 anyway

[atomic abyss]

and biscuit is horrendous in w14, let alone w15

[elfin hollow]

how long it take to get mats for a UR gear lab piece?

3 month?

[hollow gust]

2

[atomic abyss]

assuming you grind properly, yes, 2-3 months

[hollow gust]

Shop already gives 3 rainbow blanks , arbiter gives another

[elfin hollow]

i need a second wyvern

[sharp socket]

i thought shop has 3, normal arbiter 1

[vale spindle]

shop is 3 arbiter 1

if you still have the one-time coords thats another 1 per coordinate

[hollow gust]

mb

[frank pulsar]

shop gives 3 blank print and 1 ordnance report

[urban spruce]

What is the best place to grind for Medals? Is it fox mines?

[frank pulsar]

uh no, medal aren't grindable
afaik everybody gets them from doing gacha

[atomic abyss]

fox mines are not good for anything

[uneven cave]

Spamming 12-4 so I can retire a fuckton of Chokais at once

[atomic abyss]

the best way to get medals is by grinding maps w9 and above for exp/coins while under oil cap, and retire the R and above rarity ships you get

[urban spruce]

Kay, thanks!

[frank pulsar]

how much medal can you get from grinding that way? i usually dont have enough if i rely on just that

[civic crag]

I get like 10 on average but 20 if I’m lucky per run

[atomic abyss]

i mean delulu, how much are you going to get from build outside UR events

but yeah i never really counted

[late flame]

just do hard pity

[storm heron]

is it helpful to raise a second sandy?

[frank pulsar]

nah

[late flame]

nope

[warm flax]

no

[remote yarrow]

You don't need to raise any dupes

[frank pulsar]

sandy main usage is just w15 anyway

[abstract solar]

Do you get research exp if the ship Is capped at lvl 120?

[warm flax]

yes

[frank pulsar]

raising 2 of one of the most expensive ship in the game is

[plain saffron]

/prgrind

[late flame]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[remote yarrow]

[hollow gust]

You can't even have 2 retrofitted Sandy if I'm not mistaken

[storm heron]

oh that's great

[plain saffron]

you can't

[frank pulsar]

oh right i forgot you cant raise two of the retro ur

[shell willow]

yes, you cant buy 2 of the item

[storm heron]

how does that work?

[plain saffron]

if have sandy kai or have item, can't buy item

[storm heron]

like I would be unable to retro the second one?

[frank pulsar]

if you already have the item or have a retro sandy you cant get another of her retro item i think

[hollow gust]

Either way raising one is pretty good , she much tankier and dps is really strong rn

[plain saffron]

technically you can raise 2nd one, you just can't have 2 of them at same time

[storm heron]

Oh yea I am unable to buy the mic

"Unable to obtain more than one copy of this retrofit item"

[shell willow]

[storm heron]

dang

[remote yarrow]

There's still no reason to raise any dupe in the game

[storm heron]

There has to be a reason you can have two of the same ship in campaign right

[remote yarrow]

[late flame]

nope

[plain saffron]

the reason is dev don't care at that time bcs dev don't allow in opsi

[storm heron]

2 sushis

[late flame]

devs allow folks to flex

[plain saffron]

if you have spare mats go on i guess, we can't stop you

though i personally prefer using 2 diff broken ship instead of 1

[ebon oxide]

How do I get Saratoga's unique augment? Is it a blueprint that has to be found somewhere, then crafted?

[remote yarrow]

But still why would you need 2 Sushis or 2 of the same ship

[plain saffron]

go on saratoga, click augment slot, you can craft from there

[frank pulsar]

you press on her augment slot and directly craft from there
needs mlb before she can equip augment

[storm heron]

I guess I missed some of the op ships so I just plug in 2 sushis as flagship

[ebon oxide]

ty ty

[plain saffron]

how many spare UR bulins do you have

[remote yarrow]

You really are dense

[storm heron]

Not much tbh, I can only raise another UR for free and then I am broke

[remote yarrow]

Do you not really have idk, Soyuz,Alsace?

[frank pulsar]

you have to consider bulin cost as well
for new player (1 year and less) its a scarce resource

[plain saffron]

then you shouldn't, UR bulins is hard to get better to use on new ship

especially when they started doing 2 UR in 1 patch sometimes

[storm heron]

but they are not that tanky :(

[plain saffron]

tanky not that relevant to backline

[storm heron]

yea that's true, gotta consider that

[frank pulsar]

you dont need sushi level of bulk for anything
regular ur bb bulk is good enough

[remote yarrow]

If not having a tanky backline is a concern maybe you should look into improving your frontline

[frank pulsar]

^^^^ that too

your vanguard can protect your backline from most threats

[remote yarrow]

Cuz I've never heard someone's reason to use Musashi being cuz she's "tanky"

[whole crypt]

you will if it's 14

[warm flax]

isn't she immune to rammers

[whole crypt]

and she helps soak damage from your other main fleet

[remote yarrow]

But it's not the main reason in most cases, ppl use Musashi cuz she's an amazing ship overall, not just because she's tanky

[plain saffron]

i heard multiple times

[whole crypt]

14 is like the only specific case where you'd pick Musashi for being "tanky" yes

[frank pulsar]

15 as well
she lower your aa requirements by a non negligible amount in w15

[plain saffron]

bcs she's w14 powercreep at that time

[whole crypt]

less of 15, a lot less of 15

[remote yarrow]

in any case there's no reason for him to raise a second Sushi and ignore Alsace and Soyuz

[storm heron]

Yeah I thought it was good to use two amazing ships for people not wanting to wait rerun

[plain saffron]

no need to wait for rerun, there will be better ships

[storm heron]

But yeah the conclusion is I guess not for new player advice, better wait for new and even more op ships

[plain saffron]

even for old player it's only for flex really

[whole crypt]

the only level of play where dupes is "good" is when you're whaling for fleet power

[storm heron]

Oh yeah I also still have a level 1 lafii

[remote yarrow]

I think you missed the whole point of what we are trying to tell you

[plain saffron]

unless you doing some no gacha stuff then multiple free UR might be useful

me waiting for laffey ii rerun to do w15

[remote yarrow]

you don't have her?

[plain saffron]

i have 1

[frank pulsar]

you dont need laffii anyway
guam + shimanto + sandy will suffice for a clear

[sharp socket]

same except i dont have her, or guam

[plain saffron]

but i want it easier

[storm heron]

guam shimanto laffii and brest sandy laffii

[frank pulsar]

if you have good gear not using laffii wouldnt make a big difference for regular clear

[whole crypt]

can't get guam without gacha if it's for the no gacha account

[warm flax]

idk, w15 for me is just 1 day of agony

[shell willow]

ur invitation ticket any time now

[remote yarrow]

Don't you have a better acc than 90% of ppl tho?

[sharp socket]

i remember this guy that did w15 with 2 unicorn and thats the only time i saw raising dupe to be useful

[frank pulsar]

last i checked hes still using kms triple bb

[warm flax]

that'll suck

[plain saffron]

still using on main account

[warm flax]

what worked for them might not work for you

[frank pulsar]

in any case good gear will make up for lack of laffii for regular clear

[whole crypt]

the thing is in any case where you'd use a dupe there's usually something else that can replace the dupe unless you're forcing yourself to do it without options

[elfin hollow]

Any good elite or rare sakura ships to get ? (Vanguard points)

[remote yarrow]

Huh? There's no thing such as Vanguard points

[wind hazel]

for ijn tech point i guess?

[plain saffron]

you mean you need x vanguard to unlock a season 1 pr ship?

[remote yarrow]

Do you mean it as you need one for Ibuki's cdc?

If that's the case why get Ibuki

[elfin hollow]

No vanguard tech points

[whole crypt]

if you need tech points to unlock research just LB/level any IJN ships you have, higher rarity/larger hulls better
if you need ships for XP grind just use any ship that fits the reqs

[wind hazel]

[remote yarrow]

Explain? Cuz there's no such thing

[plain saffron]

there's no vanguard tech points, only faction tech points

[whole crypt]

if it's PR1 you don't need tech points you need a specific number of ships

[frank pulsar]

if youre talking about tech point just mlb any sakura empire ship you have, preferably those with good lv120 tech
also, tech points apply to both backline and vanguard, no such thing as vanguard tech points

[plain saffron]

welp he said it's not number of ships either

[whole crypt]

what do you need specifically because there's no such thing as vanguard tech points

[elfin hollow]

This

[plain saffron]

exp

[whole crypt]

if you need ships for XP grind just use any ship that fits the reqs

[frank pulsar]

thats not tech point that's combat data collection
just use any 3 sakura empire ship and itll contribute to it

[plain saffron]

but only HMS have Vanguard

[storm heron]

maybe they want to raise sakura empire ship that gives +1 dd fp or ca eva or something?

[remote yarrow]

Shimanto are you done with FdG, PR4 and PR5 yet?

[whole crypt]

vanguard tech is like ehhh, just use what you have

[plain saffron]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
uhh just read this i guess

does the guide explain how to farm exp?

[remote yarrow]

I think it does?

[wind hazel]

[elfin hollow]

Ye duh

[plain saffron]

just pick any high levelled ships to use

[elfin hollow]

Expect prinz and russian cv

[whole crypt]

you don't even need to pick high leveled ships though

[remote yarrow]

wdym duh I don't know what you have and if you are skipping seasons or not

[sharp socket]

if you want recommendation on what to use for xp grind sort your dock like this and send

[plain saffron]

meant to say highest

[whole crypt]

the recommendation is just use anyone that fits the reqs

[sharp socket]

well yes but tech

[plain saffron]

bcs they'll survive compared to lvl1 ship so you don't need to exp pack or dorm so it's faster

[warm flax]

so you finished pr4 without knowing this

[remote yarrow]

Seems like it

[sharp socket]

sounds like a cdp user

[whole crypt]

most of the IJN vanguards have trash tech

[elfin hollow]

Any archives or world levels that I can get more ijn ships?

[plain saffron]

do you have no ijn ships or all maxed or something?

[whole crypt]

why do you need more IJN ships

[late flame]

sus

[elfin hollow]

Low money

[plain saffron]

they drop from all the chapters afaik but we don't know who you have

[remote yarrow]

You are done with 2 seasons and FdG and you don't have 3 vanguard IJN ships?

[whole crypt]

what does any of this have to do with money

[plain saffron]

how does getting more IJN ships help with money

[elfin hollow]

Only have 5

[plain saffron]

in anything it uses more coins

[wind hazel]

@elfin hollow just do this

[whole crypt]

just use those 5?

[elfin hollow]

Noshiro i can limit break her is it still worth doing so?

[whole crypt]

just use them

[wind hazel]

perfect, use the first 3

[elfin hollow]

Ok

[remote yarrow]

Just use 3 of those 5

And probably don't just filter SRs

[late flame]

kaza tank kek

[plain saffron]

use these, unless you can convice why you need more ijn ships bcs idk why would you

if you need coins just farm 9-1+ ideally 12-1+

[elfin hollow]

Thats the only ijns ihave

[sharp socket]

you can farm xp collection while getting coins at 12-4 too

[whole crypt]

just use the 3 DDs I don't see the problem

[elfin hollow]

Alr

I have also SR bulins to upgrade the other twn

[plain saffron]

ouh. i think i understand(?)
capped lvl ships still gives exp

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[elfin hollow]

Ah alr

I thought cap ships don’t

[plain saffron]

bruh it took so long to piece it together

[elfin hollow]

My brain functions differently then the rest

[wind hazel]

gph these days is like a quiz

[plain saffron]

i think i can be detective now

[late flame]

yay

[remote yarrow]

#gameplay-help message that was a lie

[plain saffron]

just drop it we have the answer already

[remote yarrow]

What I meant as being done with a Season is having all of them Dev 30 / Fs5 if they have it

Not just getting the ships unlocked

[elfin hollow]

I can limit break norhiro is it still worth doing so?

[plain saffron]

but that wouldn't block you from getting another ship?

[whole crypt]

not really

[remote yarrow]

I know but I was confused on how clueless he was despite "being done" with 2 seasons

But w/e

[late flame]

ikr

[elfin hollow]

Pr4 is all above dev 28 rn only dev 29 rn are agir and M.P

[plain saffron]

there's a lot of ship that can replace nowadays her so not really

[elfin hollow]

The rest are dev 30

[plain saffron]

anyway uhh how long until stream

[remote yarrow]

<t:1723316400:F>

[elfin hollow]

And for the PR 5 they’re roughly dev 20

[plain saffron]

ouh nice 3am stream

[late flame]

3am if gmt+8 yes

[remote yarrow]

Nice, 3PM stream finally

[plain saffron]

how i'm supposed to to tell peoplr "i told you" smh

[remote yarrow]

I always had to stay up to 5AM or so

[wind hazel]

type it out, i'll screenshot you and post on your behalf

[plain saffron]

EN will have shop UR, there will be new collab announcement.
if no UR i scrap 1 of my lvl120 saratoga

[sharp socket]

does this mean the devs stay up on a sunday night to do the stream

[remote yarrow]

Just don't sleep or take a nap in the afternoon and then wake up at 2:50AM or so 🧠

[plain saffron]

i'll try to stay up

[storm heron]

not saratoga 😭

[remote yarrow]

Atleast that's what I do to not fall asleep mid stream when they are at 3AM+

[late flame]

just had early dinner at 4.45pm, napping soon

[plain saffron]

likely prerecorded and prob overseas staff looking at the stream and manage

[wind hazel]

wait where is global HQ?

[plain saffron]

china

[wind hazel]

zamn

[elfin hollow]

Welp the dock lied to me turns out i had more

[remote yarrow]

You better keep your word

[plain saffron]

idk if they have office in US

[wind hazel]

dont use kitakaze, use yuudachi

[elfin hollow]

Alr

[wind hazel]

azuma probably work too tbh

[late flame]

azuma/kazagumo/yuudachi

[elfin hollow]

She dev 25

[late flame]

she'll do

[wind hazel]

yeah she can survive, dont worry

[elfin hollow]

Alr

[wind hazel]

let this be the only chance you'll be using Azuma

[elfin hollow]

Triple 305mm right?

[sharp socket]

send them to 12-4 with some decent gear and a healer and you should be good

[elfin hollow]

Alr

[remote yarrow]

Or 12-1

[elfin hollow]

(For her gun)

[remote yarrow]

Like Agir gun? Sure

[sharp socket]

12-4 has better coin gain for slightly worse oil efficiency so just pick either of those

[elfin hollow]

Yes

[sharp socket]

11-1 is the farm spot for supposedly best oil efficiency but little coin gain, only if you’re coin capped which you shouldnt be

[elfin hollow]

Trying to get as much coins rn

[remote yarrow]

Then do 12-4

[elfin hollow]

Alr then

[lilac mirage]

hello, are PR catchups only 300 prints for one ship?

because I just finished harbin's catchup however it's marked as complete

[shell willow]

300 for whole season PRs

the DRs are 150 each ship

[whole crypt]

even if you're coin capped 12 drops chips and aug stones, not to mention it's easier to carry shitty fodder in 12 than 11

[worldly pewter]

u thought they will give us 900 catchup prints per season ?

[sharp socket]

i heard it from general chat where they cant farm high coin stages because of coin cap

[whole crypt]

in which case you just burn coins then go back to 12+

[remote yarrow]

And you believe what ppl say in general?

[whole crypt]

that's why you get gameplay advice from gph not general

[sharp socket]

ive just never heard it anywhere else so

[echo vector]

Strasbourg's dps is quite high huh. I didn't expect that much dps from her

[whole crypt]

depends on what BB/BCs you have, she's not bad but there's not a lot of reason to use her

[echo vector]

Okok

[half plover]

so if hit and fp bb tech is highest prio for main fleet ships, what is highest prio for vanguard? trp and eva?

[whole crypt]

CL/CA EVA

[echo vector]

Depends on map and your vanguard class.

[whole crypt]

then maybe CL/DD FP

[half plover]

ty

[frank pulsar]

youre suposed to just farm past coin cap
the hard limit is 600k afterall

[half plover]

would u generally run 3 cl/cas in a fleet or should there be one or more dd

[echo vector]

There's also DDs who would be better using high FP and DDs who are better with high TRP

[half plover]

for leveling*

[whole crypt]

he probably means people who've farmed to 600k... but you just get rid of coins and keep farming

[rain bobcat]

really doesn't matter..... as long as it clears

[whole crypt]

yes but for the purpose of grinding tech 1 TRP addition is a smaller improvement than 1 FP generally

[echo vector]

Generally speaking one CA/CB at the front most of vanguard is better for tanking damage

[frank pulsar]

if its just leveling just level whatever you want
just exp pack them to a high enough level to survive 12-1 (usually 80-90 should do it) and gear them properly

[half plover]

alr ty

[frank pulsar]

for normal fleetbuilding you just use whatever fits the roles you need
you shouldnt ever decide something by hull type but by what they can do, hull types dont have fixed roles afterall
e.g. there are dd tanks and dps ca

[rain bobcat]

usually even with 4-5 bad ships I just use an aa carry to protect

[half plover]

I can imagine retro sandy clearing 12-1 on her own with her aug lmao

[frank pulsar]

yall use carries?
i just drag 6 shitters regardless of how bad they are

[whole crypt]

you can 1:1 13-1 so Sandy soloing 12-1 is a no-brainer

[rain bobcat]

i use shimanto if the shitters cant clear enough yet usually because of backline dying

[half plover]

is 13-1 better exp?

if I have to use a carry I will just consider farming there then

[whole crypt]

it's worse XP/oil and harder to clear so it's not recommended much

[rain bobcat]

its worse and harder

[half plover]

ah I see

[sharp socket]

what to need for w13 hard

[crisp estuary]

[night crow]

Anyone know if Jean d'arcs burn counts as a burn that would nerf Mogador ? Cause that would be annoying

[atomic abyss]

It should

Just use an actual tank instead of JdA

But the actual buff wasn't even that great to begin with

[night crow]

Garanteed crit isn't that good ?

[half plover]

if I dont get scharnhorst in the first 60 tries to get z46 should I just get her from protocore shop?

[atomic abyss]

It's more of the damage increase isn't that big

[night crow]

Thanks, I like Jean d'arc so I'll keep her for now

[whole crypt]

Scharnhorst isn't in proto shop, she's in regular core shop
if you've gotten all other KMS drops from chessboard then up to you if you have spare cores

[half plover]

ah regular core, yeah I got everything but scharnhorst and I think the other maps where she drops arent that good to grind

[whole crypt]

well if you're done with D4 besides scharnhorst and have the cores to spare

[iron meteor]

does anyone have a link to a guide on reasearch priority

oh nvm found it on sams site ty

damn brug is plymouth not worth as first pr5?

[cobalt rapids]

thats PR prio

[iron meteor]

oh

wait shes dr im a dumass

[cobalt rapids]

but consider somewhere after fdg and anchorage to do aegir

[half plover]

when is a good time to consider leveling up ships to 125?

I think I got some good options by now and some arrays to up them

[shell willow]

whenever you got enough arrays lol

just make sure you choose the ship carefully

[half plover]

can I post my SR/UR in a thread and ask for advice who is most important to get to 125?

[shell willow]

ofc

[half plover]

I will when my auto search is over

[lucid musk]

help. auto search turns off after a fight

[half plover]

Ships to 125

[frank pulsar]

that shouldnt happen unless it interrupted

[lucid musk]

even tried going far from my phone lmao, still happens. tried rebooting AL, to see if fixed.

[frank pulsar]

try basic troubleshooting like clearing cache and restarting phone etc

otherwise try reinstalling, and if that still dont work ask #tech-support

[jaunty vault]

huh

[jaunty vault]

record a video and show us what exactly happens

screenrecord

[lucid musk]

rebooting worked. :> should've tried before asking. anyways thanksss.

[jaunty vault]

[eternal basalt]

Turn off TB

And "Do you have it set to not skip duplicate shipss to show you aswell?"

[frank pulsar]

is wolfpack > fishpack now or are they the same

[stoic basalt]

MLB Yorktown II or Vanguard? (or someone else?)

[frank pulsar]

what ur have you already mlb

[frank pulsar]

yorkii > vanny > unzen = laffii > mog imho

[stoic basalt]

I see!
Also, would it be worth to substitute Soyuz with vanguard? I use musashi as my main dps and sometimes it's hard timing the buffs

[frank pulsar]

if youre swapping anyone for vanny itd be musashi

yorkii is higher prio imho cuz your bb are all pretty strong options already

[plain saffron]

does META ship comes with any gear on it?

[wispy cosmos]

no

[frank pulsar]

i don't think so

[plain saffron]

thanks

[stoic basalt]

yeah my CV fleet sucks big time😭

[mystic topaz]

the game doesn't explain the auxiliary gear very well, is there a guide for auxiliary somewhere that explains their use?

[atomic abyss]

The long and short is different ships need different auxiliary gear, so there isn't one catch all guide for aux in general

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

You can try this guide, there's multiple guides here for each ship class

[jaunty vault]

the game doesn't explain any gear

[atomic abyss]

And yes, the game doesn't explain any gear well at all

[eternal basalt]

Wait for the UR next month

[sinful escarp]

they just gave gear stats and pray someone understands

[atomic willow]

Which one of them is better?

[jaunty vault]

bottom left is magnetic so its kinda better

[frank pulsar]

bottom left is better
you can just use quad mag torp on everyone though

[stoic basalt]

we got another one coming?? damn. Do we know what role?

[inner delta]

no

[stoic basalt]

unfortunate

[plain saffron]

maybe even next event, who knows

[rain bobcat]

why would it be on EN anni

[plain saffron]

no need to be gacha

[abstract latch]

Any of these worth enhancing?

[inner delta]

catapult good, rudder good, baracuda good

twin 203sck is good enough

[abstract latch]

Ok

Rest is mid?

[inner delta]

twin 40mm aa is also good for BBs

you can use suisei too

[abstract latch]

Ok thank u

[inner delta]

the other is not that good

seafang is also usable

[abstract latch]

Aight

[frank pulsar]

suisei is niche, youd use purple helldiver most of the time if you lack tenrai

[rapid grail]

Gold* cata, Rudder, gold barracuda, hazemeyer AA, purple 533mm quad mag (transitional), toolboxes

Seafang (transitional, 2x500 lb fighters are fine), twin 203mm for CA is also fine

[abstract latch]

Which one is rudder?

[rapid grail]

the funny looking washing machine auxiliary beside barracuda

[inner delta]

high performance

[abstract latch]

Ohh

I'll enhance barracuda first then

Nevermind i do not have the required items

Btw where should i put the STAAG AA on? Battleships?

[rapid grail]

yes because they want the HIT/ACC stat (diff name, functions the same)

and their AA (except some USS BB/BCs and Vanguard) are all... Crap to say the least

[abstract latch]

Aite

[rapid grail]

some frontliners may also want it too because it's also a decent accelerator AA (AA mechanics are jank lol)

[abstract latch]

Ok

I haven't been doing the main campaign much

[rapid grail]

but that's a matter to think and ask om later when it'll matter. For now just chuck Staags and Hazemeyerd to your BBs

[abstract latch]

What level should i upgrade them to?

Ok

[wind hazel]

which is the better pick here?

[soft raft]

blue Napoli

[sweet delta]

Q 2 hour

[slow fox]

refresh

[wind hazel]

i'll kill you

[slow fox]

I'd choose 5H Napoli if I were you

[wind hazel]

zamn all 3 different answers

[obtuse knoll]

why not gold nachimov?

[crimson glacier]

why

[obtuse knoll]

why

[crimson glacier]

blue is just better than gold

[sweet delta]

That wouldn't be wrong either

[frank pulsar]

gold can be good if your queue isnt long enough to keep going while youre offline like when yr sleeping or smth

[obtuse knoll]

blue>purple>gold face for value then I'm guessing?

[full leaf]

would saratoga be in an opsi cv boss fleet or mob fleet

[sweet delta]

For coin or time cost yes

[slow fox]

anchorage mentioned

[sweet delta]

If you don't have 3 better boss cvs then boss

[frank pulsar]

is fishpack better with homura than archerfish?

[sweet delta]

If you don't have 1 better boss CV then you probably can't even afford to make a boss carrier fleet

[frank pulsar]

also, is fishpack still best or is wolfpack as good now

what does 🔮 mean? what does it depend on

[sweet delta]

Boss movement, type, and battlefield

[frank pulsar]

so theres no clear use cases for whether homura or archerfish is better?

[sweet delta]

Homura is clearly better if the battlefield is long (boss is far) or if boss is fast , while archerfish is notveryclearly better if boss is heavy

[slow fox]

it means anchorage

[frank pulsar]

can i intepret that as homura mostly > archerfish

[sweet delta]

Yes I lean to homura

[frank pulsar]

okay ty

[sweet delta]

Cn sorcerers disagree but they only give one singular number for an unknown battlefield size and unknown enemy

[frank pulsar]

i trust your 🪄

[full leaf]

prob illustrious, ark royal and shoukaku from the medal shop?

im not sure if tis the right choice but enterprise is on the "generic boss fleet" so

[sweet delta]

Enterprise, August, Sara to start. Skip shoukaku, she's just tech

what is a generic boss fleet

[full leaf]

idk im just looking at the samheart guide for opsi

[sweet delta]

Cursed

[wind hazel]

who's that Mio?

[plain saffron]

ookami mio from hololive JP

[wind hazel]

zamn pretty old acc

[sweet delta]

I would assume that generic boss fleet from the fleetbuilding guide is Only to be used if you can't afford mob+2boss fleets

You don't make a generic boss and a CV boss. You make a BB boss and a CV boss

[bleak mica]

me fossil with KizunaAi

[full leaf]

yea i get that, the guide recommended 3 boss fleets

[cobalt rapids]

is the cv boss the "ryuusei" team or the "rocket" team

[worldly pewter]

longer means worse for most of them except the Q and scrap ones i think
so u want to pick them depending on the sleeping/work/study schedule

[sweet delta]

is this guide griefing someone

[jaunty vault]

what guide

[sweet delta]

Depends on your BBs too, make a thread and someone like umi will help you

[jaunty vault]

you should try helping sometimes

[sweet delta]

There's no actually difficult content to help with

[jaunty vault]

are you saying umi's help is worthless

[cobalt rapids]

coop are u ok

[sweet delta]

im saying you logic skipped a few hundred steps

[worldly pewter]

he meant call me when there is difficult content that someone wants my opinion for

[jaunty vault]

no one wants your opinion

[plain saffron]

mod cooper is being toxic pls ban

[jaunty glade]

worth it?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[wind hazel]

i would, 10k for gold bulin

[full leaf]

just so i dont spam the same images over and over, everything is here
rn im just planning ships to level (thus making opsi fleets) since ive cleared 12-1 but im ASS at it so

[rapid grail]

longer researches = worse

late but basically you want more researches than less researches

you can achieve like a lot of stuff with the time of a gold face research

[cobalt rapids]

if theres been no dock updates then stick to ur mob and boss fleet in opsi aswell

[sweet delta]

You need to get at least August and one more good BB before considering the third boss fleet

[full leaf]

so theres literally nothing worth levelling rn other than my current 2 fleets?

[worldly pewter]

yeah u are in a bit of lack in the vanguard department
also where is vanguard ?

yeah seems like u skipped the event since even the table wasn't there
what u want to do is try to find fighters

[wind hazel]

start working on FdG if you have enough tech points

maybe raise Nelson? since you cap Hood already

[keen sable]

nelson, ark, aurora vs forcing yourself to use awful ships to get better ships aka research development. take your pick or do them all even

[spice phoenix]

should i construct marco polo and complete PR4 season or move on to a more important ship?

[cobalt rapids]

construct coinable ships or ships u got enough bps for d30

[soft raft]

if you havent maxed out the other PR4s then yeah you can do Marco to make maxing out the others faster
otherwise she's low prio and you can move on to Ply

[spice phoenix]

pr 4 grind it is since i need the prints

thanks!

[jaunty glade]

should i "develop" any ship i have available or wait until mid game before even touch that

shipyard*

[keen sable]

you can easily and safely develop saint louis and that should last for 30+ days

[unborn harness]

guys i returned to this game after like half a year and i blew all my pulls on that standard banner thing with the 400 pity did i mess up

[jaunty glade]

perfect, so there is nothing negative about me starting?

[soft raft]

jesus christ
yes you did

esp with the high chance of a UR in September
Perament URs are a trap

[keen sable]

depends on yuor dock and how awful a badness you are willing to use

[unborn harness]

oh its so over i had like 300 pulls what have i done

[sharp socket]

does bb eva affect suicide boat hit rate

[unborn harness]

thank you

[eternal moth]

Why ask AFTER doing it and not before?

[late flame]

ask before pulling would be one

[unborn harness]

the realisation hit after idk why i failed to apply gacha game logic

i think i just have a gambling addiction and wanted to pull

[soft raft]

nothing you can do about it now except save
and you'd prob have to skip this month's banner if you want to have as many cubes as you can for the UR

[jaunty glade]

lol sorry what do you mean by this?

[unborn harness]

sounds like a plan ill stop pulling ty

[eternal moth]

Saint Louis is safe to start. You're going to be using a bunch of Eagle Union ships early game anyway

[jaunty glade]

ohhhhhhhhh

[keen sable]

let's say you currently use Portland, Helena, Laffey and they are level 80. You choose to develop Roon and decide to use the 3 k-sisters. That's terrible. The k-sister are downright awful, you stop using good ships, and you don't even have good ships to do anything the game asks of you.

[jaunty glade]

gotcha, that makes a lot of sense - thank you! last question, i remember reading something about getting a free bp a day or buying bp with coins, does that happen after the ship is developed?

[soft raft]

Currently for all research ships besides Agir, Haku, and all of PR5, 6, and 7 yes

[stoic basalt]

is Helena meta worth it? I don't have any slower (soon researching agir)

[keen sable]

after and as long as you have 0 bp. meaning under no circumstances should you attempt to acquire any bp for PR1 because if you do you will be forced to use them

[soft raft]

she's certainly not used for her slow utility if you can even call it that
Do you not have AvP or Ark Royal (or Implacable)

[stoic basalt]

they all level 1

and implacable is not retrofit even

[soft raft]

raise at least Ark Royal then for the time being
dunno what dev level your AvP is

[sharp socket]

then level your current stoppers rather than get a new one

[stoic basalt]

oh wait no that's indipendence

[sharp socket]

avp can be coined anyway

[wet badge]

does auto search pick up ammo if i run out

[rain vine]

no

[wet badge]

whats the fastest way to get the refit thingies

[keen sable]

the fastest way is to use every method possible

[soft raft]

Grind hard mode
X-1 for DD
X-2 for CL/CA
X-3 for BB/BC
X-4 for CV/CVL
And do higher than W3 to get the gold ones

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Hard_Mode

[plain saffron]

do the 3 star mission

you can do 3 of the missions per day, that's fast

[keen sable]

touch your secretaries

[plain saffron]

doing it rn

[keen sable]

until you find one that gives retrofit bp

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Category:Ship_Questline_Page

[keen sable]

So I totally randomly touched Hai Tien, yes totally random, and she has the memory but not the quests. Guess I better let a green name know.

[plain saffron]

green name are extinct now

[viral flicker]

So can anyone do the math and tell me how many times do I have to do 11.2 with this 3 to get the rest

[plain saffron]

roughly 55 ish, prob more

1 12-1 run is around 1%

[viral flicker]

And after how many runs will my affinity finish

[plain saffron]

morale?

[viral flicker]

Yea

[plain saffron]

2 per fight, assuming 6 mob fight
6*2 = 12
150 / 12 = 12.5 run ignoring regen

[keen sable]

somewhere between 6️⃣ and ♾️

[viral flicker]

So it's like impossible to finish by today or tmr

[keen sable]

i'm pretty sure i did kears cdc2 in a few hours