gameplay-help

[thorn tartan]

okay, ty

not sure i can 3 star zone 14-3 until it is a bit safer

[forest palm]

ya, you just play to safe

forgot how many runs that is

[pale mason]

is 12-1 or 12-4 better for farming exp/gold in terms of oil efficiency?

[forest palm]

1 for xp, 4 for gold

[soft raft]

^

[pale mason]

k ty

[robust jackal]

Is it possible to full auto 15-4 or no because of the mini boss spawn mechanic?

[cobalt rapids]

clearing mode changes some stuff to make it autoable

[little tree]

Did long islands augment make her good or she still bad ?

[soft raft]

it gave her another barrage at a 70% proc chance
Giving her a USS plane also buffs the barrage

Take that as you will

[pale mason]

@cobalt rapids you recommended me some fleets last week, srl = shangri la right?
would essex, taihou, illustrious, or centaur make the cut over her at all or nah (i have no clue about their kits/stats, just going based off tier list)

[cobalt rapids]

no they wouldnt, and yea srl is shangri la

[pale mason]

is shangri's raw damage output just higher?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[pale mason]

hm ok time to build her up too then, was hoping to use essex or someone i already leveled but thats fine

[cobalt rapids]

well taihou aug might be better next month but i wouldnt invest in minimal improvements

uh

can u link ur thread

[pale mason]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1267940718970929315

my shangri's skills are all 1 so xd

[ebon oxide]

Does Nelson’s retrofit make her barrage probability 70% at max level? And 100% upon taking damage 3 times?

[sweet delta]

Put Jeanne for one guaranteed damage tick stack

[eager abyss]

should I use unzen or hindenburg?

[soft raft]

What context is this for?

[eager abyss]

just for power

[soft raft]

[atomic abyss]

that's... not really an answer

[eager abyss]

ok, HP wise

[atomic abyss]

both of them are the best DPSes in the game

[soft raft]

that doesnt help any better
in fact that's even worse

Jut state what content you're doing

[atomic abyss]

but they're the best in different situations

neither are tanks so HP isn't a concern

[eager abyss]

I just wanted to change ships to see if any power would go up if I got the right gears

[atomic abyss]

fleet power is a pointless metric - it's essentially a stat total

[soft raft]

Ship composition and a ship's skills matters alot more than the total # of fleet power pts their gear adds up to

[eager abyss]

talking about fleet power, when in your formation, it says a higher number than when in-battle?

[atomic abyss]

yes, it's irrelevant - just a stat total

the gear that gives the most fleet power are not always the best gear

[eager abyss]

if you could, would you recommend me a gun for unzen?

[soft raft]

UR gun > SR gun to put it simply (Same goes for Hindenburg except she can mount two guns at D30)
and the specific gun depends on enemy armor type

[atomic abyss]

actually, that should be the first question we asked tbh
are both your hinden and unzen dev30/mlb?

[eager abyss]

actually, I havent started on hindenburg and unzen is on lb1 so maybe I should be asking which one I should be wasting time on

[atomic abyss]

[soft raft]

dont see why you wouldnt just do both at the same time tbh
you can work on both of them in parallel

[atomic abyss]

who has the best crossfleet barrages again?
besides alsace and soyuz

[slender heart]

Musashi? Not sure about best though

[stark quiver]

Where to get Peter strasser

[atomic abyss]

perm in special now

[remote yarrow]

Special Build 🐌

[stark quiver]

Bruh

I need her for avatar frame

[atomic abyss]

F

[viscid swift]

no you don't

[atomic abyss]

you never needed all of them

[stark quiver]

Rly? I have every other but her

How much do I need?

[viscid swift]

you can get enough by max limit breaking all the event ships

the ships on the call to arms are just bonuses that allow you to skip max limit breaking a ship or 2

[stark quiver]

The thing is , I probably won’t get all of them, cuz I’m still doing my cube limit until I get more, side note , don’t you get enough for chat frame by just collecting

[viscid swift]

that's only in reruns

for the original run you need to max limit break them

[remote yarrow]

Just get lucky

[soft raft]

Keep gambling

[stark quiver]

Well that’s not good…..
uh out of 2800 pts, if I do 5/6 of the missions with the non event ships how much pts can I get

[viscid swift]

I thought this time it was 2600 for the frame

[stark quiver]

Oh yea, well 2600 then

[fiery swan]

is the promise crate available during december event

[night dirge]

New Jersey or shinano

[hollow gust]

well what do u have

[remote yarrow]

If you don't have any other UR go for Nano

[night dirge]

Alr

[viscid swift]

I can't really say because we don't know exact numbers but you save about max limit breaking 2 ship's worth of event points

[stark quiver]

Welp, 3 pulls a day lol let’s see where that gets me

[remote yarrow]

What are you saving for btw?

Aren't you at 500+?

[stark quiver]

Oh I’m at a constant 500-600 every event, so I’d want to save up to like 700-1k for extra security during reruns if I want to pull

[viscid swift]

probably also shouldn't but the event is likely to contain 3 SRs and 2 Elites based on the points assuming we don't get a a UR

[fiery swan]

do we get free ring this anniv

[stark quiver]

Sad I didn’t get dupliex, but wouldn’t have known if she would completely destroy my cube stash

[remote yarrow]

Well that's rng for you Aud didn't drop in 60k so I had to buy her

[keen sable]

do the points work for a UR?

[viscid swift]

let me check

[lyric stump]

would u guys kindly choose 3 ships for me to use for halford grind? (tech > strength, if all of them is meh il just use the high lv ones

[viscid swift]

yes but you'd be looking at realitically
1 UR, 1 SR and 3 Elites assuming the point values don't change for this event

[keen sable]

that seems unlikely

[viscid swift]

Bremerton, Birmingham, Biloxi, Montpelier, and Houston 2 are all FP tech

[stark quiver]

She dropped after I bought her

[soft raft]

In terms of fleet tech, take your pick from here

[keen sable]

the specific combination

[viscid swift]

yep, I agree

[lyric stump]

probably houston + 2 others btw hourston 2 or houston

[soft raft]

doesnt matter

[lyric stump]

both give eva?

[soft raft]

12-4 on safe is piss easy enough to not really matter

Read the image again

Houston is CA EVA and Houston II is CL FP

[lyric stump]

o hous2 is cl fp nvm

ig those dont rly matter now

ty yall

[hollow gust]

cl fp not mattering

[forest palm]

eventually you're farming CA torp tech

[lyric stump]

i mean using houston 1 or 2 doesnt rly matter both is useful except i figure i got no houton in storage lmao

[lyric stump]

not with lv 100 ships and lv 100 back lines lol

ok lv 110 back lines but same either way, so doing 11-1 these days for better oil efficiency

[hollow gust]

literally grinding w12 rn with lvl100 ships

[viscid swift]

I was doing 12-1 a while back with an average level closer to 90 on my ships

[cobalt kettle]

do u guys keep ur coins capped

[hollow gust]

hard or soft

[cobalt kettle]

wats hard/soft

[hollow gust]

hard cap is 600k, soft cap is ur current cap

[soft raft]

the "Hard cap" is 600k coins and 25k oil
the soft cap is whatever number the game tells you underneath your resource bar

[cobalt kettle]

wut 600k

[soft raft]

600k coins....

[cobalt kettle]

they increased it??

[viscid swift]

it's always been 600k

[cobalt kettle]

i thought it was like 250k

[soft raft]

no?
It's been like that for a long ass while

[stark quiver]

no idea but its 600k

[cobalt kettle]

oh, well i meant hard cap

[stark quiver]

yea 600k

[cobalt kettle]

but dont u get like 8.4k coins a day from merchant

[hollow gust]

8.4k is nothing

[uneven cave]

You can’t collect from merchant when you’re over soft cap anyway

[cobalt kettle]

[uneven cave]

Mine’s been sitting on the 12k cap for months

[soft raft]

mines been at the 12k cap for years at this point

[cobalt kettle]

is there nothing to spend coins on?

[uneven cave]

Yostar pls let me buy cog chips with coins I’ve been sitting close to hard cap for a while

[stark quiver]

there is, but the amount people grind just outweighs it

[cobalt kettle]

wat u mean grind

[soft raft]

not exactly, but eventually you get to the point where deliberately gimping your coin stores to below the soft cap just to claim from your merchant is a extremely poor financial decision

[stark quiver]

grind as in spamming 12-1/4

[cobalt kettle]

oh

btw is the event next week a ur event

[stark quiver]

idk probably not

[uneven cave]

Soft cap will stop you from collecting from merchant and mail, but you still get more from grinding, missions etc
Hard cap will stop absolutely everything

[cobalt kettle]

i thought mail goes into ur archive

[uneven cave]

Unlikely because JP anniv is next month
And JP anniv has always brought new UR and 1 month gap between 2 URs is pretty shit

[viscid swift]

the math doesn't support there being a gacha UR anyway

[uneven cave]

You can’t collect from archive, that’s what I mean

[cobalt kettle]

oh

[sweet delta]

Does the math support there being a shop UR or retrofit UR?

[stark quiver]

yea it does

[cobalt kettle]

btw is there a guide for 120 farming all ships

[uneven cave]

Amagi retro

[cobalt kettle]

wat do people usually do

[rain vine]

farming the crap out of 12-1/4

[viscid swift]

the math cannot discern such things

[cobalt kettle]

what ship level u have for it though

are people doing like 1 125 and 5 lvl 100s

[stark quiver]

around 100 to whatever

[rain vine]

whatever you can make work
i boost to 100-105 to be safe

[rain vine]

6 lvl 100s

[cobalt kettle]

[uneven cave]

There doesn’t need to be a guide
Pick a ship, gear it well, send them to sortie - what else

[cobalt kettle]

on 12-1?

[rain vine]

yes

[viscid swift]

12 ships < level 120 is what I run

[stark quiver]

actually, do you guys use the leveling fleet for boss as well?

[uneven cave]

I like to have a couple of ships lvl 105+ when they all have shit AA on W12

[cobalt kettle]

been just farming 12-4 with 120s cause of shipyard

[stark quiver]

waste of xp

[cobalt kettle]

[uneven cave]

Both fleets are levelling fleets

And I swap between mob and boss when mob runs out of morale

[hollow gust]

I just use one fleet for both

[stark quiver]

i run a leveling fleet and a full UR fleet cuz my gear arent good and i need the xfleet

[uneven cave]

One fleet can’t handle all when they’re all shit ships

[low juniper]

Which fleet formation is best for W14

And I'm talking about the dots things in the bottom right

[hollow gust]

Once lvl100+ u can

[remote yarrow]

Depends on your dock

[hollow gust]

Double is safer

[remote yarrow]

oh double

[low juniper]

?

[uneven cave]

Double line’s gonna be the best option for pretty much everything except plane hell

[low juniper]

And what's plane hell

[hollow gust]

W15

[remote yarrow]

And maybe 13 Hard

[uneven cave]

Not when the ships are all terrible

[hollow gust]

Get better gear

[uneven cave]

Bruv they’re as good as it can get

[grizzled wave]

should f7f ever be used over flapjack?

[hollow gust]

When you need a faster plane

[grizzled wave]

im guessing since its faster it does less damage or something?

[soft raft]

besides timing adjustment, since it flies faster, it fires less shots than the flapjack before it goes off screen

[cobalt kettle]

btw is there a cap on xp books

how many can u have

[thin vapor]

Hello . What should I buy with " Shop vouchers " in Operation Siren every month ?

[remote yarrow]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#voucher

[cobalt kettle]

2925

[slow fox]

SuchiNingen mentioned

[thin vapor]

Thanks but the link doesnt work . Is there a tutorial anywhere else , like on the Discord ?

[slow fox]

The link works for me.

[remote yarrow]

The link works

[thin vapor]

That's weird :/

[remote yarrow]

🫵 Mebot

[copper glacier]

How do I use 12-1 thru 4 to level ships? Do I just make an entire fleet of lower level ships I want to level and throw them to the wolves or do I switch out one or two ships in my higher level fleets with lower level ships I want to level and have the higher level fleet run 12-1 - 12-4?

By "lower level" I mean like level 70.

[remote yarrow]

Why would you run through W12 to level ships tho

Just do it in 12-1

[copper glacier]

Ok. Can you answer my question though?

[slow fox]

Just do it in 12-1

[copper glacier]

Yes. I understand that. Truly I do. But that wasn't my question. Please read again.

[rain vine]

i would just bump up the levels to 100 and run through 12-1 with 6 levelling ships

[remote yarrow]

Level 70 ships might struggle if they don't have good or decent gear or are being helped by Crossfleet barrages

[keen sable]

You gave two choices. The right choice is correct.

[remote yarrow]

Probably level them to 80~90 if you don't

[ebon oxide]

are PR ships limit-broken with SSR bulins?

thank goodness lol

[remote yarrow]

And also get the Threat level down to safe if you haven't done yet

[copper glacier]

PR ships get stars by raising their development level and fate simulation in the shipyard. It takes coins. Lots of coins.

[remote yarrow]

Limit breaks or rather the "Stars" are gotten every 10 Dev Levels

They don't need to be limit broken, you can actually get a PR ship to 120 Dev 0 if I'm not mistaken

Though it's gonna be deadweight

[low juniper]

W14 fleetbuilding

[thin vapor]

Is there a way to know a ship's type of armor ?

[ebon oxide]

for friendly ships, go to their page from the dock, there's a stat that says it

[outer kernel]

this is my first time actually trying to clear OS, how easy is it to get a hidden zone data logger worth of the currency thing?

[ebon oxide]

for enemies...uh all I know is BB = heavy, DD and CL = light, CA and CV = medium

[low juniper]

Can someone help me with this #1271258123784552589 message

[uneven cave]

^ this remains true with a few exceptions
Some armored carriers are Heavy
Some CAs are Light
CVLs should be Light?

[ebon oxide]

my shouhou and unicorn are both medium, idk if it's true for enemy as well

[thin vapor]

Thanks . I guess it's not always the case ? Also , I build the ships with the help of " Azur Lane tier list " without using my brain . Should I always adapt each ship's equipment with different ennemies ?

[remote yarrow]

Yes, gear is dependent on content

[novel solstice]

For boss fight fleets, you definitely want to adapt to the enemy.

[outer kernel]

it also just depends on how difficult the content actually is

if it's under like w13 it really doesn't matter that much cuz you'll win anyways

[thin vapor]

Thanks everyone . Yeah the game is 95 % too easy , only the raid bosses which gives titles are really difficult

[jaunty glade]

is cruise pass worth the $$?

[stark quiver]

for the skin mostly

[soft raft]

if you like the skin yee

[outer kernel]

^

[uneven cave]

Pretty easy, especially if you do arby

[outer kernel]

and if i don't do arbiter but do fully unlock every zone and such

[vale spindle]

pretty easy still

you can even do normal arbiter since you get infinite tries to whittle it down to 0% hp and can heal in between attempts

so worst case you do 1% dmg 100 straight times and kill it

[outer kernel]

can i change my gear for arbiter without using the fleet redeploy command?

[jaunty glade]

one last question for night, augments - im commander level 40 pretty early. I'm thinking of grabbing the augment for my flagbearer Richelieu from here: https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#augment_module

Officer's sword.

Should i do it and if so, take it to +10 or hold off?

[eager mulch]

I wouldn’t

[outer kernel]

when you have the resources do it

[uneven cave]

Augments aren’t important enough

[jaunty glade]

so hold off?

[low juniper]

Are there any ur subs

[uneven cave]

Except the few unique ones

[finite crag]

No

[polar lion]

What are these Selectors we get from Opsi?

[forest palm]

there's Blank Designs, there's Packs where you can choose mats, or get random mats from...you're gonna have to be specific

[polar lion]

Ooo those

[remote yarrow]

those what?

Specify which selectors you are talking about

[polar lion]

Prolly the blank ur designs

I dunno too. I was just reading past messages in here and they call them Selectors

[fathom sable]

Do the white and black AP stack?

[viscid swift]

yes

[robust jackal]

Dumb question, for 15-4. Is there a way for a push button full auto clear? or Do i manually have to select each node for an auto battle because of the mini boss mechanic?

[hollow gust]

you can try autoing '

[keen sable]

same way you auto everything else

[sweet delta]

Just bring a stronger boss fleet that may or may not include a healer

[robust jackal]

gotcha thanks

[fathom sable]

So, is it a wise idea to pair them each time (like, a must) or there's an exception?

[viscid swift]

the standard would usually be a White Shell and Fire Control Radar

[grizzled wave]

if u have sandy get hers

[late flame]

exception is when helena not in fleet, or using guns that cannot sync
oh wait thats white shell + fire control radar oops hehe

i usually field black+white shells when accuracy isnt an issue / when helena not in fleet / using guns that do not sync with each other

hmm.. for HMS BBs would there be situations that one would prefer using a yellow over white shell?

[forest palm]

not really, it being so niche makes it hard to actively + 13, and it loses value if the white shell is +13

you could use them if you decide to level BMs, but that's a whole different scenario

[late flame]

oh thank you. was thinking if i wanna perma slap one on Vanguard heh

[grizzled wave]

my first pancake! so cute

[plain saffron]

Does attachment disappear completely if mail in archive, like no icon at all

[rain vine]

it shouldnt, though theres not much of a reason to not claim stuff now with the oil/gold storage

[plain saffron]

So attachment completely disappear on archive, thanks

As in it doesn't exist at all

[rain vine]

#gameplay-help message

[keen sable]

what is an attachment?

[rain vine]

oil, gold, cubes, etc

[stark quiver]

After what commander level will it become irrelevant

[sweet delta]

The icons are tappable

[wind hazel]

i wanna say 80 ish, after that it becomes non issue other than personal reason

80 give access to w12 and most relevant upgrades, so...

higher is always better though

[south sequoia]

Imo I think it would be 95

[plain saffron]

Can't believe shadymaty lied to me

[south sequoia]

Bc of the daily stages

[sweet delta]

The names shady for a reason

[stark quiver]

I see, maybe the question would be , after what level do you gain nothing more?

[plain saffron]

Anyway thanks

[sweet delta]

130 so you don't get banned if you score first place in EX

[plain saffron]

Also this doesn't answer my question

[sweet delta]

200

[plain saffron]

The question is not about is it claimable or not. The question is does it exist

[rain vine]

sorry i misinterpreted your question?

[stark quiver]

[plain saffron]

You still gain oil cap increase that's something

Lvl80 on 1st place totally legit

[stark quiver]

These new gens are getting out of hand

[sweet delta]

The converse is not necessarily true

[plain saffron]

Also they don't ban on the spot like CN, instead they ban after event

[sweet delta]

He's been first place more than once

[stark quiver]

Same guy from Kindergarten event?

[smoky palm]

Random question.. but is it better to do Northern Overture or Khorovod of Dawn's Rime in the War archives if my goal is Triple 152mm parts?

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Northern_Overture#D3-2

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Khorovod_of_Dawn's_Rime#D3-2

or does it not make a diff? just wondering since one says boss + siren and the other doesnt..

[stark quiver]

Khorovod a tad bit better

[soft raft]

considering that they're both on D3 and we have no flying clue what drop rates are like, doesnt matter

You also didnt really need to link their wiki pages

[keen sable]

both are boss+siren

[stark quiver]

huh
wiki misinfo?

[smoky palm]

yeah, thats why I was curious really, jus tryin to get a 3rd Triple 152mm

[keen sable]

I don't see any misinfo

[forest palm]

why do you even want to farm that gun

[sharp socket]

105 has last lecture hall upgrade so after that its just a measure of your playtime

[south sequoia]

Just do opsi to farm seattle gun and camp core shop every month for triple 152mm

[smoky palm]

for my CL's since I dont have either of these. and figured it's better to burn my war archive charges than use my gear lab mats to make a triple 155mm

[forest palm]

don't know about that...

[stark quiver]

youre also burning a good amount of oil for a mediocore gun

[south sequoia]

Not exactly mediocore

It's still pretty good

[soft raft]

yeah it's roughly a sidegrade to 155 Kai

[south sequoia]

other options (seattle gun, 155 kai) just prove to be more accessible

not to mention that gun is also available itself monthly in core shop

[rain vine]

the gear lab materials you would be using are fairly common unless youre completely new to opsi

[smoky palm]

I just figured itd be something to burn some war archive charges on is all 🤷

[snow fractal]

Is she usable?

[stark quiver]

not rly

[wind hazel]

buffer only maybe

[snow fractal]

I'm currently on dev 19

[south sequoia]

There's no harm in that, the issue is war archive in general is a waste of time and you'd rather be doing campaign/opsi yk

[soft raft]

Ehhhhhh kinda doubt it
Maybe useable purely for utility at D20 but like she would really like D30 Asap since she would have her stonks DPS at that point

[smoky palm]

I mean when I burn oil I usually just do 13-3 since it has the chance for hellcats :/

[south sequoia]

Please dont

[wind hazel]

if you wanna burn oil, might as well do it on WA that give you good ship that you're still missing

[snow fractal]

I see damn I need another 300 plus dr prints

I wanna cry

[stark quiver]

why hellcats ik theyre good but cant u like level ships for tech in 12

[finite crag]

why farm for hellcats?

[smoky palm]

Im not necessarily farming them, its just that 13-3 is one of the few maps from world 12-14 that gives anything decent weapon drop wise

[south sequoia]

Campaign is the last stages you want to farm bps from

[finite crag]

i wouldnt call that decent

[soft raft]

just open tech boxes

[stark quiver]

youre not rly supposed to be farming campaingn for the gear

[smoky palm]

im not farming for gear tho.. the hellcats are just a bonus

[south sequoia]

Then go lower

[finite crag]

the bonus is not worth it

[south sequoia]

13-3 is too rough for ships to level

and the bonus is pointless

[viscid swift]

Well there is one reason to do 13-3
Dewey

[stark quiver]

whos dewey again

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dewey

[wind hazel]

show him da wae

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[icy cave]

Do i farm till morale hits 120 and stop?

[stark quiver]

farming brings morale down not up

[eager mulch]

up to you if you care that much about the xp buff

[uneven cave]

Depends how often you’re farming
If you’re farming frequently in small sessions, you could do that for some hyperoptimisation

[little tree]

I put this aa gun on my bb's correct?

[icy cave]

I mean from 150

[stark quiver]

u can slap them in dorm then farm until you cant anymore

[little tree]

Thank you.

[uneven cave]

Like I personally wouldn’t because I’m not farming often, but can farm hours in a session if I have the oil

[icy cave]

I see, I don't farm often too so I guess I will just farm below 100

In a single session

[uneven cave]

Just farm until they run out of morale

[icy cave]

Alright, thank you!

[zenith locust]

is this good?

[jagged belfry]

Finished chap 1 op siren to unlock meta showdown, ran through the dossier thing. Whooped Helena Meta to get her sync points. And I thought I can run her fight again to just keep grinding the points out. Is this supposed to be daily thing and I gotta do it tomorrow?

[forest palm]

for Otto, and Felix specifically

[light trail]

i wanna 125 anchorage, she's a good choice to 125 right

[soft raft]

realistically only for like 2-3 ships

[zenith locust]

but for general?

[soft raft]

You literally dont have enough coordinates to activate another fight (100 coordinates per fight), so you're gonna have to go grind out more

There's no daily cap for the amount of dossier coordinates unlike the 200 cap for the regular showdown coordinates

[jagged belfry]

Aw sbucks I gotta go through the siren op again?

[soft raft]

the whole point of OpSi is to constantly do the monthly grind after you unlock the monthly reset but you get used to it

And it would honestly suck ass if it didnt reset every month, as it's your main source of gear lab materials

[jagged belfry]

Welp, at least I know what to do and it's slogging through the Somme. Cheers. Gonna get more coordinates

[plain saffron]

There's daily 200 cap for dossier

It's only higher storage cap, 1400

[soft raft]

oh right

[bright tusk]

what main guns are worth for +13?

[soft raft]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[still merlin]

Is skyraider or tenrai better on Volga for mob chp15

[keen sable]

it's ok, very accurate(most cl guns aren't close to their theoretical max) and if you can take advantage of it's skill really shines

[humble iris]

Is kuybyshev any good

[fast plaza]

what should i prioritize getting in this shop as a new player?

[eager mulch]

gear boxes if you need gear, cog chips and arrays if you need cogs, pr/dr bps if you need bps

[fast plaza]

ty

[eager mulch]

[soft raft]

She's pretty good
may or may not be worth raising outside of tech depending on your options

[dawn scarab]

Do you guys know if the Secrets in Memories will be re-released?

[wind hazel]

nobody knows

[dawn scarab]

rip. I missed the last 3

[plain saffron]

Most likely yes but probably gonna a while

[dawn scarab]

As long as it gets re-release later, im ok with waiting

[full leaf]

once ive just cleared a node, the damage reduction on clearing mode is still the same right

[timid beacon]

I’m confused

[dawn scarab]

Need to have Roon at lvl 10+ to use more BP

[timid beacon]

How do I do that

[dawn scarab]

Use her or give EXP books

[timid beacon]

Oh

[dawn scarab]

Once she's lvl 10+ you can use more blueprints

[timid beacon]

Thanks

[maiden jewel]

hello! i was wondering if i needed to 3 star hard stages?

[plain saffron]

There's 3 star rewards

[maiden jewel]

is there a cap for how many hard stages i can run?

[plain saffron]

You can 3 star using only 1 daily hard mode attemps
Only 3 times per day limit

[maiden jewel]

sadly im only on level 1 so it takes me at least 2 attempts

[timid beacon]

How important is this (I’ll eventually finish it)

[plain saffron]

You need to be clever to 3 star and only using 1 attemps

Go in, kill mob and quit, and repeat until you have enough to complete 2nd star
Then go in, kill all mob, kill boss for 1st and 3rd star

[maiden jewel]

oh my gosh

THANK YOU!

when you say quit do you mean like quit the game or retreat?

[late flame]

retreat

[sharp socket]

you cant really do that on the later stages that require multiple clears to full clear a stage but its a great way to get the 2nd star quickly

[plain saffron]

It still work for 3 star regardless, because 3 star rewards doesn't need 100%

For main campaign hard mode

[maiden jewel]

also is it best to try and retrofit unicorn first or can i do laffey?

[shell willow]

huh? you can 3 star every hard node like that

[plain saffron]

So you can just clear once all with 3 star just for the rewards

[shell willow]

or am i missing something

[sharp socket]

you still need to full clear it to farm the stage

[soft raft]

You'll do both (And Portland's) retros eventually

Technically you can work on both of them at the same time but Unicorn is higher prio

[plain saffron]

Yes that's true, I'm talking with context 3 star purely for the 3 star rewards

If you want to farm then continue and 100% it

[sharp socket]

well then sure it works

[plain saffron]

If you planning to 100% then calculate how many times you need to leave yourself

[polar lion]

Nagami, can u share the skin sim link?

[plain saffron]

https://l2d.algwiki.moe/

[polar lion]

Thanks

[finite crag]

meh cause roon is meh

dont get stuck on the older pr series

[signal leaf]

Whats the difference between HIT and ACC?

[finite crag]

same thing different name

[signal leaf]

why is the game like this

[plain saffron]

Ask yostar

[late flame]

#game-feedback exists i guess

[plain saffron]

More like #bug-reports

Also i did, nothing happens

[late flame]

ah well

[sharp socket]

is the twin 130mm in pr5 a statstick just like twin 137mm in gearlab

[plain saffron]

The dd gun? It's a good dd gun

[sharp socket]

oh thats good

[jaunty vault]

twin137mm is a good BB secondary

[plain saffron]

For ship that can only use dd gun

[jaunty vault]

[plain saffron]

Owo

[crisp estuary]

What's over? EoS?

[rapid grail]

hi

3rd HVAR to +13;
Skyraider to +13; or
Spearfish to +13?
for +13 priority against Light armor for my CVs?

[wild sinew]

Is the challenge reward give same acc frame? I remember doing sandy challenge and got it frame already

[stark quiver]

2k coins iirc

[late flame]

no point doing challenge again

2k on easy but thats about it. no rewards on higher

[plain saffron]

Even 3rd one?

I know 2nd drop nothing

[late flame]

yes. i tried it with no reward whatsoever (last month)*

[dusk birch]

If I use a double reward, does the double exp gain count towards the pr ship Combat Data Collection?

[cobalt rapids]

skyraider

[copper ermine]

is saratoga worth retrofiting after unicorn?

[polar lion]

Does cruise pass skins come back?

[cobalt rapids]

atm cruise pass content hasnt reran

[soft raft]

Think of the 2x plans as doing two runs at once

It's basically a timesaver tool if you lack the time to grind

[soft raft]

Depends on what CVs you have

[copper ermine]

i have unicorn, hermes, akagi, langley, ranger, saratoga, long island, shouhou, yorktown, souryuu, hiryuu, and bogue.

[solid harness]

What does the crit plus 1 mean?

[cobalt rapids]

description error, it should be 20% torp critrate

[soft raft]

Then sure, everyone you listed that isn't Unicorn is relatively whatever for practical uses
And see if you can get Enterprise while you're at it too

[inner idol]

Is the hvar plane good on kearsarge?

[blissful hamlet]

yes if you're fighting light/medium armor boss

[inner idol]

So kearsarge is a boss oriented unit? I have no idea how to use her I'm just trying to level her

[blissful hamlet]

no, but hvar plane is boss oriented gear

[inner idol]

Oh ok

[blissful hamlet]

if you're leveling her you can use any USS fighter

[inner idol]

Gotcha

[strange sphinx]

So does long Island need the Experimental Eagle Union DB?

[cobalt rapids]

long island doesnt need anything

[soft raft]

Technically she gets a buff to her Aug barrage if she has a USS plane but that's about it

Tho that's a pretty easy condition to fulfill when 2 of the best regular use fighter planes in the game are American

[atomic abyss]

... Just give her a Helldiver?

[soft raft]

That too lol

[atomic abyss]

You're realistically not gonna throw her a tenrai so

[full leaf]

once ive just cleared a node, does any damage reduction in the node immediately happen or is it only achievable by lowering threat levels

[hollow quiver]

Just get Perseus is she good in anything

[crisp estuary]

Second best healer

[cobalt rapids]

being a slightly worse unicorn but a slightly worse unicorn isnt bad thing

[crisp estuary]

Use her when Unicorn is fully leveled up and cannot gain any more xp. So you do not waste xp if you want. Some people do not bother and keep using Unicorn anyway. Up to you

[jaunty vault]

most people don't care

[hollow quiver]

What about theseus

[cobalt rapids]

decent

[south gull]

where can i find good beginner guide

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[remote yarrow]

Any further questions feel free to ask them in here

[vernal edge]

Is paying for PR1 devlevel with coins a scam?

[cobalt rapids]

no

discounted coining is the opposite of scam

[remote yarrow]

No, but there's better ships that can be coined, like the PR4s

[vernal edge]

Is it per x times done with coins, or time-limited thingy?

[warm flax]

is there an archive for rodney meta fleets?

[hollow gust]

What was her gimmick

[strong tartan]

You needed to stagger or else she became invincible

[warm flax]

thank you

[frank pulsar]

theres also this cooked by riceist

needs high cv and bb rld though
among other tech

[hollow gust]

Top is easier, Bottom is better

[dusk maple]

and copious amounts of survivability luck

[slow fox]

Grey Goose is a better bot than I am

[cobalt rapids]

but does grey goose do ehp

[slow fox]

eHP bot

[plain saffron]

eDPS when

[inner delta]

[half skiff]

cant believe i noticed begginner rewards had a research section only to day

and somehow, since i had never checked it, theres no progress that had been made

[plain saffron]

Yep somehow it only count after you opened it

[elfin hollow]

if an account is new, which pr should they focus first?

[vernal edge]

Whichever is available, ideally fdg-PR4 but good luck unlocking it

[elfin hollow]

it all depends if I can unlock the ship for that PR right?

[remote yarrow]

FdG > Anchorage > Agir > Rest of PR4

[elfin hollow]

Thank you both

[remote yarrow]

But this may change when every ship in PR4 becomes coinable and gear gets added to gearlab

[half plover]

if u want you can farm divergent chessboard to get some good ironblood tech ships

it makes the FdG grind way easier

[south gull]

should i pull on standard banner or wait for anniversary? i just started

[half plover]

pull daily 1x light

until good event banners

[remote yarrow]

If you read the newbie guide it says to not pull on permanent banners

[vernal edge]

630 tech points is like what, 15-30 lvl 120 mlb ships?

[remote yarrow]

You know that IB ships give like twice the amount of tech compared to other factions right?

Or even more in some cases if I'm not mistaken

[wary timber]

remind me again... which map is the best for exp while being the most fuel efficient

[vernal edge]

12-4? 14-4?

[remote yarrow]

Idk if it's the "most fuel efficient" but most people just farm 12-1 or 12-4

[wary timber]

crap im only halfway through 12-2

[vernal edge]

Fuel cap though?

[crimson glacier]

then just do 12-1

[elfin hollow]

Thanks for helping out @vernal edge @remote yarrow and @half plover

[crimson glacier]

w14 is just trash for exp

[elfin hollow]

Torva

[wary timber]

also before i go doing something absolutely stupid again, how stupid of an idea is it to use both Shimakaze and Kawakaze in the same fleet just to farm exp for pr ships.... in w12-1

[crimson glacier]

everything works in w12 as long as you have good gear

[wary timber]

cowabunga it is

[remote yarrow]

Which PR Ship tho?

[south gull]

HELP i can't stop auto clearing stage 😭

[remote yarrow]

Cuz I don't think either Ibuki or Kitakaze are high prios for research

Or Azuma

[wary timber]

actually. its Kitakaze

[remote yarrow]

Explain?

[plain saffron]

Click on the auto-search button or quit mid fight

[vernal edge]

either press this one(auto-search), or turn off clearing mode in pre-sortie menu

[remote yarrow]

I mean, if you don't have any better ship to do go ahead

[wary timber]

shes like the PR ship closest to me finishing with only CDC2 left at 88%

[plain saffron]

I find quit mid game easier because skill issue

[half plover]

ooh long islands aug got already released, time to build it before hoods aug

is it good tho?

[crimson glacier]

no

[vernal edge]

If im already at ~300\630 tech points with these, is it wise to just start roon research with them? Isnt 1-70 something like 270k exp total? Will i even get to 630 at everyone mlb?

[wary timber]

Long Island isnt a good CVL to begin with. so no

[half plover]

you could get tons of tech just from obtaining chessboard ships, as well as buying admiral hipper from guild shop and mlb her + z23

I finished my roon after I got already enough tech so it depends I guess

[vernal edge]

Sadly no BB medal exchange, could just yoink Bismarck and Tirpitz for lots of tech ponits

[wind hazel]

you can follow this to unlock everything relevant https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

it even tells you which to mlb or just collect only

[remote yarrow]

Well 🐌

Add the kms part to your link Mori

[wind hazel]

no

[vernal edge]

Nice, thanks

[wary timber]

got a question on the VF-17 squadron. if i have a VF-17 squadron on Perseus, and i use both her airstrikes simultaneously, the plane's AA buff dosent stack right >

[crimson glacier]

yes but AA buff is useless anyway

[half plover]

wait u37 is guaranteed in a war archives? time to farm it

[crimson glacier]

should just use planes with dmg

[remote yarrow]

She's also in merit

[wary timber]

i have no good planes left so my 2nd fleet which has Perseus and Taihou are both using VF-17 corsiars

[remote yarrow]

Which doesn't require you to burn through your oil

[rustic osprey]

Which aa gun best for NJ

[half plover]

oh thanks for that info

[remote yarrow]

STAAG or Heizemeyer

[crimson glacier]

remove unis AA

[half plover]

unis AA is for BBs right?

[wary timber]

remember for BB/BC AA its best to use Hazemeyers and STAAG.

[rustic osprey]

I see

What to use for uni then

[crimson glacier]

doesnt really matter

[remote yarrow]

Give Uni the Hazemeyer Sheffield has

I think that's sheffield

[crimson glacier]

i wouldnt bother to give uni hit AA guns

[vestal thistle]

Should I get tenrai t0

[wary timber]

yes.

[rustic osprey]

Makes sense

Second Hazemeyers goes to nagato then

[remote yarrow]

I would prefer you giving it to Vanguard

Unless that Vanguard isn't mlb

[rustic osprey]

Not MLB yet

[wary timber]

Tenrais are OP dive bombers. they deal stupidly high damage so yes. get them

[remote yarrow]

well just give it to Nagato or whatever BB/BC then

[rustic osprey]

Not even +1 limit break

[half plover]

next UR is musashi, right? so I guess musashi will be highest prio to mlb?

[crimson glacier]

dunno, probably not

[remote yarrow]

It's recommended that you get alteast 2 Tenrais, 1 from protocore and 1 from research

[rustic osprey]

They said musashi has the highest chances

[crimson glacier]

who is they

[remote yarrow]

Like next UR event? Probably not, UR Rerun most likely

[half plover]

yeah rerun

[wary timber]

who is "they"

[crimson glacier]

then say rerun and not just UR

[rustic osprey]

My guildmates

[remote yarrow]

But for new UR we don't know

[half plover]

my bad

[vernal edge]

Voices

[rustic osprey]

Yes a rerun

[wary timber]

then again. Musashi is pretty much forced to use a less effective main gun other than hers most of the time to make her deal more damage thanks to the long reload on those 18" guns

[remote yarrow]

Huh

[cobalt rapids]

no idea

[remote yarrow]

What is that answering

[half plover]

Musashi looks like a must have pvp unit, but at the same time I dont have a single vanguard build for her in the recommended teams like laffey II or some meta ships 🥲

[crimson glacier]

then again how does that matter

[wary timber]

then again.. is Musashi even any better than NJ-

[crimson glacier]

way better

[cobalt rapids]

much better

[remote yarrow]

NJ is the worst gacha UR BB

[cobalt rapids]

NJ is sometimes better than uvh in certain content

[remote yarrow]

oh right I tend to forget about UvH

[cobalt rapids]

sometimes UVH is better in other content
depends as always

[crimson glacier]

NJ is only more useful than uvh if you have like 0-1 UR BBs

[half skiff]

lads, is there an esily accessible CV? i have none, lnly CVL and thats annoying for hard mode

[wind hazel]

saratoga

[cobalt rapids]

Enterprise

[half plover]

so with alsace and the vanguard rerun we got alread stacked for the main fleet with FdG?

[rustic osprey]

Can anyone explain vanguard to me. Someone told me to not enhance her becuz she's too fast for other ships

[half skiff]

nice, how do i get those?

[vernal edge]

Check medal exchange for SR CV option, otherwise - saratoga

[cobalt rapids]

u can go ahead and fully enhance vanguard

[remote yarrow]

By someone do you mean someone in your guild?

[vale spindle]

ignore them, always enhance ships

[rustic osprey]

Lemme ss the conversation

[cobalt rapids]

indep is cvl and they said they alr got indy

[half plover]

forget about that then

[vale spindle]

only time vanguard gets too fast is if you have vanguard as your only oathed BB in the fleet

[remote yarrow]

aka me

[vale spindle]

which is rare

[cobalt rapids]

can be fixed with timing gear

[half skiff]

UVH need more ppl?

[vale spindle]

and even then its not fast enough to be an issue cause gear adjust yes

[crimson glacier]

no, uvh is more niche

but her niche is needed atleast sometimes, meanwhile NJ is just outclassed in everything

[wary timber]

isnt NJ's crossfleet barrage useful

[crimson glacier]

lol

[vernal edge]

Thats bar too low

[cobalt rapids]

shes outclassed there aswell either way

[remote yarrow]

I mean NJ is still better than 90% of BBs, thing is if we compare her to the other gacha BBs she falls off

Which there's quite a few of

[wary timber]

i currently only have Warspite, NJ and FDG which is nowhere near ready for combat

[half skiff]

out of topic but...

[remote yarrow]

My dude we can't see shit

[crimson glacier]

cool picture 🙂

[half skiff]

coulsnt screen sry, anyhow , got yorktown

[remote yarrow]

Ok? She's bad

[vernal edge]

Yorktown is an alright cv statstick if you literally have no one else to fit

[remote yarrow]

Which is a really low bar to beat

[late flame]

i wouldnt say no to cv reload +1 but aside from that its collection only

[plain saffron]

Something² here not place for blogging

[wind hazel]

he just wanted a CV for hard mode......

i swear sometimes you guy fuss over something really trivial

[plain saffron]

Farm more for sara

[vernal edge]

I mean, CVL pit is real

[plain saffron]

Well we have no context and they don't give any. Still agree though

[wind hazel]

we had context

[half skiff]

right?? i got so many cvl but had zero Cv bfr

[crimson glacier]

you arent we

[vernal edge]

Really though - what is in your medal exchange this month? Not CV?

[wind hazel]

you guys were literally chatting like nobody business when he asked

[half skiff]

atago, and others cruiser were in my medals

[wind hazel]

not my fault if you just don't read and now disagree

[plain saffron]

Also they wrote out of topic so can you blame me

[crimson glacier]

it is kinda your fault

[half plover]

after DR4 and FdG catch ups, what is the next best ship to catch up in research

[plain saffron]

I read, they said out of topic

[remote yarrow]

He has CACA

[wind hazel]

no, it's NJ fault

[vernal edge]

Saratoga drops at 4-1 and 6-4

[cobalt rapids]

[uneven cave]

what did i even come back to

[late flame]

buy pr4 voucher for avp

[wind hazel]

tl;dr everyone need a Saratoga

[plain saffron]

Are ranger cv or cvl i forgot

[crimson glacier]

cvl

[plain saffron]

Spend 1 dollar for sara

[remote yarrow]

spend 0 dollars and farm for sara

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations here u go, theres some CV in here

[late flame]

i did 🙂

[plain saffron]

That's more than 1 dollar

[undone plover]

Anchorage/AvP

after that if u have a ship from 1-3 that is dev30 u can put their catchup on so u can start converting it to protocore

[half skiff]

ty !

[half plover]

yeah I got them, so if I have excess FdG blueprints it will work as well?

[vernal edge]

So wait - recycle bp option comes up only on dev30 or full fate sim or doesnt come up at all? im confused

[remote yarrow]

Dev30

[half skiff]

btw, i didnt quite get the current event. i understand some ship will ger more exp, but what does the next part mean?

[undone plover]

excess being above her FS5 yeah since u should use it on her if not

[remote yarrow]

You get a chat/profile frame for getting 2600 points which is next week

[cobalt rapids]

next part comes next week

[vernal edge]

MLB bonus exp ships and get a cool profile frame

Or was it just acquisition?...

[half skiff]

ah, well im far from that XD

[remote yarrow]

mfw I had to squint my eyes to read how many points they were

[cobalt rapids]

its MLB banner ships or use bonus exp ships in event for pts and pts -> frame

[cobalt rapids]

aquisition only for rerun

[vernal edge]

Oh

[half plover]

I read it before but wanted to ask first again, 1 tenrai from protocores is alright?

[cobalt rapids]

thats the max u can get

[tame jungle]

you can at most get 1 tenrai from protocore since it doesn't refresh monthly

[remote yarrow]

if you can get more than 1 show us how to do it

[half plover]

ah I see so it wont refresh

[remote yarrow]

Everything but UR BPs refresh

[half plover]

I mean sandys retro item is also limited but it refreshes so I got confused

ah

[humble iris]

Wb Jeanne

[remote yarrow]

Who's Jeanne

[cobalt rapids]

good for late campaign or some EX where u need alot of vang surv boost

Jeanne d'Arc

[humble iris]

Yeah

[remote yarrow]

oooh I read wb as welcome back

[humble iris]

Wb to me is what about

[remote yarrow]

Was like Blaster's name is Jeanne? I'm just gonna go to sleep

cya

[humble iris]

Is Jeanne d'arc worth raising

[cobalt rapids]

for this

[urban spruce]

So as I understand in Vanguard the front position takes the most damage so that's where u put your tanks, middle position takes the least damage so that's where you put your weaker ships like DDs, & back position is whatever.

For Main the Flagship position is for whatever ships lasts the longest or has a gimmick requiring it to be flagship, like how Prinz Rupprechet torpedoes won't hit anything unless she's flagship or bottom position & some ships having skills related to being flagship.

Am I missing anything? Vanguard positioning seems important but Main positioning seems to only require you to think about the flagship?

[half plover]

if tenrai are that good long island will be my best cvl with also jackflap equipped for a while

[plain saffron]

Dd not always squishy and don't generalize hulltype

Also middle is most safe, dmg from most to least, tank, back, middle

[urban spruce]

Yeah I know I put Felix in front position too

[plain saffron]

Main depends on just barrage and skill requirements i think

[cobalt rapids]

flag ship position is also the best slot for suicide bote/rammers interception so it goes to BB usually aswell if needed, besides barrage req
and hulls dont tell the story so judge a ship based on its stats and skill rather than hulls
sometimes in some content top and bottom mainfleet could also matter like top being more predisposed to dmg from wild shelling like in w14 but generally yea it doesnt rly matter

[urban spruce]

Barrage requirements?

[cobalt rapids]

do u not have enty or sara ? long island shouldve been long rotate out unless ure lvling her for tech

[cobalt rapids]

some ship's barrages(skills) are position dependent and flagship usually offers for those the best spot

[half plover]

it is for tech yeah, I figured 3 BBs in backline couldnt survive 12-1 so I swapped out lvl 90 alabama for lvl 70 long island so I focus on her rn

( with my current shit team set up )

[urban spruce]

Kay so barrage requirements are in skills, Seems like I was mostly right about positioning. Thank you for the help!

[jaunty vault]

skills dont really mention positions of barrage

[urban spruce]

Oh? Then how do I find out barrage requirements?

[cobalt rapids]

know, ask here, look at a gif (cn wiki) and try to tell, look at riceist barrage datamine and try to tell(usually for aimed barrages says "prio aim")

[vernal edge]

Empiric way

[half plover]

is javelines aug worth crafting?

or ayanamis

[urban spruce]

Kay thank you for the help! This barrage stuff seems too intricate for me tho TwT

[undone plover]

depends who u have
ayanami aug is good but u shouldnt be using ayanami long term

[vernal edge]

How do i get 850 torp quick and dirty? Ayanami kai?

Wait, how huge Kasumi META is stat-wise?

[jaunty vault]

craft augs if you're using those ships
those ships aren't worthwhile

[half plover]

so augs are mainly for w13+ and opsi / bosses

[undone plover]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Kasumi_META
her torp stat is good (600+)

[jaunty vault]

kasumeta has one of the highest TRP, ye

[jaunty vault]

/reqhelp

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Hard_Mode_Req_Help.jpeg

[jaunty vault]

no, augs are to make ships you're using/plan to use better

if you plan to use ayanami or javelin, their augs are good

[vernal edge]

Where do i get Bearn again? Skybound?

[jaunty vault]

/wiki Bearn

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Bearn
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Béarn_META
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Béarn/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Béarn_META/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Béarn/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Béarn_META/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Grumman_F8F_Bearcat
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Grumman_F8F_Bearcat_(Floatplane_Prototype)

Aug 9, 2024, 10:12 AM

[undone plover]

she is also in merit shop for 8k

[jaunty vault]

first link

[worldly pewter]

are u that out of good ships to level ?

[vernal edge]

Its either too much CV\CVL focus until W10 or too much BB\BC focus until W12, reality check

[half plover]

yeah I had like 4 good CV/CVLs in my fleets all the time

so right now I have tons of BB or vanguard ships to level but no more cvl

and I slacked to do some pvp to get enough gold bulins to mlb sr ships

[plain saffron]

stay tuned™️ stream on 10th

[plain saffron]

iirc you can colelct from archive but i might be wrong

uhh wtf why am i replying to old messages

[uneven cave]

Good question

[wide marsh]

Gold Hellcat > gold Seafang?

[frank pulsar]

should be around the same iirc

[worldly pewter]

i think damage wise hellcat
aa wise seafang

is it the other way around ?

[slender heart]

The other way around yes

[wide marsh]

No tier lists mention Bearcat because of Tigercat with twice as much payload?

[inland shoal]

Yeah it's just bad when you can craft Flapjack or Tigercat instead

[cobalt rapids]

seafang has same surface dmg as hellcat

[full leaf]

ok so ive reached 12-1
what do i do now, make a third fleet? start opsi? raise everyone to 120?

[cobalt rapids]

yes to all of the above

[full leaf]

whats the third fleet about, do i make another mobbing fleet

[cobalt rapids]

third fleet for opsi, u should raise as many good ships as u can tho to have alot of option for tackling content

[undone plover]

i would try to get to 12-4 also
it is much better for gold and u need gold especially since u should start focusing on shipyard and research academy as well now

[cobalt rapids]

and then raise every1 to 120 to get permanent bonuses to make said fleets stronger passively

[wide marsh]

Getting to 12-4 is painfull. 12-1 is fine too for me.

[full leaf]

my only concern with that is, every ship i have so far is "meh" when i looked through this channels chat history so i dont know what im supposed to raise

[cobalt rapids]

when in doubt grind pr ships

[plain saffron]

someone grinded roon and get told meh also

[cobalt rapids]

or post ur dock here in a thread and can tell what to raise

[full leaf]

i was told to get roon as a step to fdg

[cobalt rapids]

thats right

[wide marsh]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding#opsi_fleet_comps

But honestly, I cleared whole storyline in OpSi with just one fleet with decent ships +Unicorn

[cobalt rapids]

story is like tutorial but yea 95% of opsi content is usually done with ur mobbing fleet

[inland shoal]

For me 95% of opsi content is usually not done

[wide marsh]

Roon is decent (100% chance to get with just coins) CA. Not best but totally do her job most of time.

[inland shoal]

Btw what's the mini patch about?

[cobalt rapids]

smth to coredata

[plain saffron]

skin category and typo

idk why specifically they noticed a typo in opsi story chapter 4

[sinful escarp]

they found that, but still havent made hit and accuracy say the same thing?

[wind hazel]

indie company, give them few more years

[plain saffron]

you're not ready for this

[half plover]

I could lowcost 3-3 to get hiryuu to mlb, does anyone know much many attempts that would take

but probably isnt worth it

[wind hazel]

you're right

don't save up on purple bulins, they come in numbers

[half plover]

I ran out of all my purple bulins sadly

[wind hazel]

weekly reset around the corner

[half plover]

what about lowcosting 3-4 to get some akagi and kaga tech

[undone plover]

Elites can be a pain to drop
Do you have merit/medal?

[wind hazel]

low costing for any dupe is not worth it

[half plover]

I dont have a single kaga copy yet

[undone plover]

Not really worth unless u have a lot of oil-gold and no priority ships to raise
Which is not usually the case

[half plover]

yeah some medals, like 240

[undone plover]

Get bulins there or wait next week

[half plover]

alr

[cloud fractal]

Can you coin FS5 on all ships? Is it just the dev levels that need tickets at PR2?

[half plover]

you can coin up fs5 on the ships you can also coin up on dev

[plain saffron]

you can coin dev30 and fs5

[wind hazel]

you can coin everything from PR1 to PR4, except the DRs in 4

[half plover]

when do you guys think will pr4 drs be coinable? would it shift the priority from 4 to 5?

[cloud fractal]

Thank you. I asked the question really badly.

[wind hazel]

it's ok we gotchu

[undone plover]

U can check in shipyard
U will see a coin icon on the blueprints for the ships u can coin

[wind hazel]

also you can only use coin if you don't have the blueprints on hand

[finite crag]

itll be coinable when its coinable

[wind hazel]

otherwise blueprints take priority

[atomic abyss]

Unless they add tenrai to gear lab by that point, I doubt

[half plover]

so basically when I got my second tenrai I could switch to pr5-7

[undone plover]

Jan-25 most likely
most newbies should start with pr5 at some point. Not sure when that will happen but probably soon

[cloud fractal]

Yeah I made a whoopsie poopsie. I thought my AvP was FS5, but she’s not. Dumped her BPs and got the last I needed for a Tenrai for the shop. So it hurt kind of good. 😂

[half plover]

bc sooner or later it will be coinable ig and I would lose some progress if I get blueprints for ships that will be coinable soon

[cloud fractal]

It was only like 30 BPs but still.

[half plover]

so pr5 is better than pr6 or 7?

[undone plover]

Pr7 overall is better i believe (still need testing for the ships) but the tech and ship requirements are not exactly newbie friendly

[half plover]

ah yeah

[wide marsh]

Foxmine is a noobtrap

[spice phoenix]

what’s the best torp fleet setup as of right now?

[atomic abyss]

Avrora JinM Unzen

[spice phoenix]

no jinM

[atomic abyss]

Noshiro Muse then

[spice phoenix]

thanks!

[tribal rose]

So uh I think I soft locked my Plymouth development, it won’t let me use any more blueprints and she’s stuck at level 30

[wide marsh]

LVL low maybe?

[tribal rose]

She’s lvl 125

[atomic abyss]

Need to level her up

Do you mean dev 30?

She doesn't have a fate sim

[tribal rose]

Yeah

Oh

[atomic abyss]

Agir, Plymouth, Brest, all of PR6 and PR7 do not have fate sim

[wide marsh]

You are free of blueprints slavery then

[tribal rose]

this is just a scam then 🙃

[atomic abyss]

Save it for when she gets her fate sim

Eventually ™️

[wide marsh]

Will she?

[plain saffron]

yes but prob long time

she's still very relevant so doesn't need that buff

[tribal rose]

fire profile pic, the perspective really makes it 10/10

[plain saffron]

[inner delta]

so you need buff then nagami? cuz you irrelevant?

[half plover]

I like how the tech guide says it is easy to aquire sakura empire tech

I am definitely doing something wrong in that case

[plain saffron]

is there ever any mail without attachment?

[half plover]

afaik no

[hasty vigil]

just makin sure as I'm entering 15-4 mines

these apply to drop ship chances right? so I should send them for Houston farming

[wind hazel]

if you don't have the time to grind yeah

[plain saffron]

yes it roll twice, not 2x the rate though

[hasty vigil]

I just wanna hurry it up tbh, are there any actual downsides to using it?

[wind hazel]

it's worse morale regen

[plain saffron]

double morale consumption, oils

[wind hazel]

that's about it really

[narrow wyvern]

2x runs at the speed of 1, it's good if you're desperate for time like me

[late flame]

think of it as 2 runs combined in 1 run

[hasty vigil]

Ah yeah no worries then, was just making sure in case there's some hidden downside, thank you

[keen sable]

there's basically no downside to always using it unless you are someone who can maintain 120+ morale

although remember it does nothing for map counts such as the previous event that needed 60 runs

[finite pasture]

Hey, does anyone know if leaving a guild resets the tech research?

[cobalt rapids]

it doesnt

ur back to public guild with no tech loss

[finite pasture]

Thank you

[worldly pewter]

focus on the ijn ships holy
look in the medal shop too

massive negligence

[grizzled sundial]

it been 1 month since i start playing , should i keep leveling ships that i have in the beginning pass level 100 or should i start working on level up better ship ? :/

[frank pulsar]

depends on where youre at in the story
youll likely just raise more ships instead of dropping the ones youre using since youre early game

[grizzled sundial]

i want to tackle those EX / SP mission soon

[frank pulsar]

those arent for beginners
especially ex

[grizzled sundial]

Hence i ponder whether i should keep leveling up the ships i got when i just start or start working on leveling up better ships like Vanguard , PR ships . etc

[frank pulsar]

for sp you might be able to get by if you over level enough but ex is much harder and probably not bruteforceable at your level

[frank pulsar]

where are you in campaign

[grizzled sundial]

does that matter ? I am at level 71 so i pretty much have all essential feature unlocked

[plain saffron]

yes it does matter because lower stage have 🚮 exp

[grizzled sundial]

working on chapter 9

[sinful escarp]

for farming reasons getting to atleast w12 is very recommended

[frank pulsar]

yes it does, it determine whether or not youre ready for raising more ship and grinding pr

[grizzled sundial]

most of my begin ships is at lv 100s

[sinful escarp]

i dont think SP is doable at that levels, and EX is basically impossible at that level of ships

[plain saffron]

sp is doable nvm i thought 100, ex is flex anyway

[atomic abyss]

SP level req is 110

[sinful escarp]

i would say to finish w12 first> farm there for a bit to get more ships leveled> and work on getting gears

[plain saffron]

like already cleared chapter 9? i guess you can but people here want you to push on w12 first because more exp, though rn you can start working on 2nd fleet

[grizzled sundial]

Hence i dunno if i should keep working on the current ship that already high level due to they stick with me in the beginning and working on unlock world campaign , at chapter 9 mob is at level 90 and it will get higher . But if i level up the beginner ship then no time spend on leveling up better ships :/

[atomic abyss]

Most of said "beginner" ships are still worth raising

[plain saffron]

also more lvl is better becaue lvl advantage

[atomic abyss]

Unicorn and Helena continue to be used in end game AL - unicorn is mandatory for campaign basically

Portland and your starter need to be raised for the beginner missions anyways

[grizzled sundial]

Currently the best ship i have is Colorado retrofit , Helena , Cleveland , Portland , Enterprise ,Graf Zep , Prin Eugen , Hipper muse . Z 23 , Thurrigen , Seldyz

[atomic abyss]

And who's to say you even have enough "better ships" for your whole fleet

[grizzled sundial]

As in , all of them is already pass lv 100

[atomic abyss]

Eugen and hipper muse are garbage, for example

[grizzled sundial]

See , hence should i stop working on them and start working on the better ships instead .

Yet , They still can plow through world campaign , for now , until the final one .

[atomic abyss]

I mean as a beginner you're only supposed to have 1 fleet anyways

[grizzled sundial]

i got 6 fleet slots unlock already --

[atomic abyss]

It doesn't matter
The point is that there is insufficient resources to spread between 2 fleets early on

[grizzled sundial]

Right now it is 2 fleets that have similar level over 100

[atomic abyss]

More crucially, where's your Unicorn?

[grizzled sundial]

You don't need to heal if the enemy are ded ?

[atomic abyss]

That's a silly logic when unicorn retrofit can kill enemies better than most of the ships you have

[sinful escarp]

you wont deal damage if your ships are dead

[grizzled sundial]

I believe in RNGer man lol

[finite crag]

im sure if it was that easy better players than you wouldnt be using uni

[atomic abyss]

You're at the point where you can still steamroll content with pure levels

That's not the case later

Unicorn retro will probably outdps everything in your fleet, maybe even enterprise cos she allows battles to end faster

She literally can launch an airstrike at the start of the battle, which only like, 2 other carriers can do

And that's disregarding the fact she can heal

[atomic abyss]

She already heals at the start of the battle anyways...
Before enemies are dead

[sinful escarp]

the wall to higher level worlds is not a straight line but rather sudden increase

[atomic abyss]

And as you said here, you're looking to raise "better ships"

Well unicorn, while a beginner ship, when retrofit is the best healer in the game that is used even in w15

[grizzled sundial]

Still haven't answered the question of should i start working on leveling up better ships , unicorn is not the only one --

[atomic abyss]

You will focus on 1 fleet - your beginner one for now

You simply will not have the gear for 2 fleets

[sinful escarp]

thats because we dont know what other ships you have, we stated unicorn because she is a no brainer to raise

[atomic abyss]

So it'll be
Colo retro, unicorn, enterprise
Portland, Z23, Helena

This will be your primary fleet to clear content with ^
As for what's in the second to raise on the backlog, I'd only consider Seydlitz, and ignore the rest - we don't even know what else you have

[grizzled sundial]

178 ships in the dock , even if eliminate common ships , i still too lazy to type all theirs name...

[atomic abyss]

...I meaaan take screenshots?

[viscid swift]

just take screen shots

[grizzled sundial]

how you do that on phone :/

wait nvm

[atomic abyss]

[grizzled sundial]

this be long list for how small the phone screen is --

[soft raft]

As long as you post it in a thread, you're fine

[bold salmon]

This plane good?

[plain saffron]

good, sidegrade to ryuusei, saiun etc

[grizzled sundial]

hmm seems the transfer got stuck...

it stop at 75%

from now on it is rare quailty

[soft raft]

In a thread

[atomic abyss]

Your priorities have been gloriously messed up

[plain saffron]

it should be fine here if it's all in 1 message

[grizzled sundial]

Yeah yeah i don't chase meta

[plain saffron]

sometimes i wondeer how people even do that, discord always limit me to 1 picture in gph

[soft raft]

Why do you even have 6 fleets anyways

[grizzled sundial]

Cus why not ?

[atomic abyss]

Because you only need 2 fleets for most content

And 2 well built fleets >>> 6 trash fleets

[south gull]

what do i do with common ships?

[grizzled sundial]

Already lv 70 and sometime i use low cost fleet to do some quick mission

[atomic abyss]

You simply will not have the gear for 1 fleet at the moment
Let alone 2

[soft raft]

Either enhancement fodder or scrap

[sinful escarp]

commander level doesnt mean anything tbh

[grizzled sundial]

I dunno about buli , some of those ships is already MLB

I gotta get those gem in the memento and fleet tech points ya know --

[plain saffron]

it does mean something and 70 means still new

[viscid swift]

considering W12 requires commander level 80 you've still got work to do

[atomic abyss]

More importantly is lack of gear

[soft raft]

This will require some raising, but:
Colorado/Unicorn/Enterprise Portland/Z23/Helena should work
Hood prob works better than Colorado once you raise her and get her unique aug

You are currently not really in a position to have a 2nd fleet much less 6 so just stick to that for now

[grizzled sundial]

but enough , all i need to hear is the definite answer of whether i should working on better ships with actual strong point in regard of particular role or generally have better skill or keep working with the ship i had in the beginning to gain access to higher world campaign --

[atomic abyss]

We have already told you

Like 3 times

[atomic abyss]

^

[atomic abyss]

I said the same earlier ^

The definite answer is ignore all your other fleets and focus on the 6 ships that blaster and I listed

[viscid swift]

where are you in the main campaign exactly

[dawn quarry]

What is this ? Should I just do it

[grizzled sundial]

Currently on chapter 9

[soft raft]

It's exactly as it says, and you have to do it anyways to complete the mission

[viscid swift]

a 2nd fleet is long over due then