gameplay-help

[inner delta]

[crimson glacier]

"it would be semi decent if it wasnt fucking awful"

[plain saffron]

It will be another toolbox sidegrade anyway

[eternal basalt]

The HP aux lately have been BiS

[plain saffron]

We need gold hp aux

[strange sphinx]

what's the effect of Long Island's aug?

[atomic abyss]

Increase DB efficiency by 15%, adds a plane barrage, which improves if you have a US gear

Plane barrage has 70% chance to proc every 20s

It's not good enough to develop early on

[strange sphinx]

70% again

[pliant plover]

they need to make a golden autoloader that is not a collab item, they could even add some passive into it, i got surprised that it's just an aux skin, but let's be real that aux skin will have more use than a useless purple aux

[jaunty vault]

[strange sphinx]

me with Butterfly aux skin in my YK 2

[eternal basalt]

Golden autoloader is still trash

[bright tusk]

when AL anniv?

[atomic abyss]

16th Aug for EN

[cobalt rapids]

mid august for EN, mid september for JP
but we all get the banners it just some exclusive freebies that are separate

[atomic abyss]

21st Sep for JP

[eternal basalt]

We get the Wishing Well exclusive for us

They get it during JP anni

I believe they stopped with the "skin exclusives" like Amagi's swimsuit or Z23 wedding or Lights of Circle City

[blissful hamlet]

hololive collab got rerun??

[jaunty vault]

no

[blissful hamlet]

[cobalt rapids]

[blissful hamlet]

no new purple aux?

[cobalt rapids]

no new purple aux

[blissful hamlet]

so nothing new in this maint

[jaunty vault]

read the patch notes

[atomic abyss]

The patch notes were a bit misleading

[blissful hamlet]

no new purple aux = nothing get added

[jaunty vault]

i wouldn't know

[atomic abyss]

2 new unique augments

Bremerton story

Some new mini games

And a gear skin

[blissful hamlet]

still no new purple aux

does this mean the prelude won't give any reward

[jaunty vault]

serenity moment

[cobalt rapids]

it gives a gear skin

[blissful hamlet]

what does it look like

[cobalt rapids]

amagis mask

[jaunty vault]

gear skin more like aux skin

[atomic abyss]

^

[blissful hamlet]

I prefer purple aux than that mask

[atomic abyss]

Well we did get new UEs

[inner delta]

damn if only you owned the game, then maybe you could get all what you wanted

[eternal basalt]

#game-news message fake news?

[atomic abyss]

At least u-96's one helps her be stronger

[jaunty vault]

bro thinks this is BA 💀

[atomic abyss]

Sorry, UAs

I actually don't even know what UE stands for

[blissful hamlet]

maybe the gear skin have stats

[slow fox]

Uagle Enion

[eternal basalt]

Hats be like EAGL EUNION

[worldly pewter]

the patch notes were outright false and wrong
兵装 in the game is used only in the gear lab

[atomic abyss]

Even in other servers?

[worldly pewter]

this is in the jp patch notes

[atomic abyss]

[worldly pewter]

most likely they also got bamboozled by the cn notes

[plain saffron]

I read jp and expecting an actual aux

[atomic abyss]

EN one calls it a gear

[worldly pewter]

bamboozle chained combo

[blissful hamlet]

imagine if it's a special gear skin that actually give stats

[plain saffron]

No need to imagine we already know it's impossible

[blissful hamlet]

[zinc hedge]

Umm new player here.. how to obtain more oil.. it seems I cannot farming lv for my ship because lack of oils..

[sharp comet]

time

[agile nacelle]

chat

[atomic abyss]

Outside of collecting your mail, collecting your weekly missions, and your weekly 4k oil pack
No other way besides waiting

[agile nacelle]

is strastborg good?

[atomic abyss]

Decent, but hood is better

[agile nacelle]

( i have like 42 wisdom cubes for next drop, also is the new event good)

[zinc hedge]

Ugh.. time gated then

[atomic abyss]

There is no build currently, so save for UR event

[atomic abyss]

In the super early game, you're quite limited on oil
Later on you'll have an abundance assuming you manage it right

[agile nacelle]

algoods ( should i replace 247 with helena)

[agile nacelle]

yuh das what i have ive been playing 4 a month

do ur comissions and stuff ( dont do the 9 hour one)

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

Anyways these are useful guides for new players

[zinc hedge]

Always do long time one because can't touch phone when working

[agile nacelle]

[atomic abyss]

And that's why you're out of oil

[agile nacelle]

mmm exactly

do the limited ones ( and focus on the large-scale oil extgraction)

[atomic abyss]

And there's your problem
Might want to stop that

Those are only good if you have like, 24k oil

[agile nacelle]

i have like 16k or something

ive been playing for like nearly 6 weeks?

oh @atomic abyss sorry to ping you but do you have any good recommendations on how to increase commander level fast without being p2w?

[plain saffron]

Use full fleet farm highest stage

[agile nacelle]

algs ty

[undone plover]

farm war archive passionate polaris if u are not at ch9 yet

[agile nacelle]

sorry what is polaris?

[jaunty vault]

event

technically war archive

[undone plover]

go to war archive > SP

it has oil cap so it will be at least ~50% more efficient for xp and commander xp

[agile nacelle]

ok tyyyy

[undone plover]

war archives need keys. u can save up to 60 but if u are low on the keys u can use these tickets.
basically with these plans you can do 2 runs per key

[heady jasper]

How many hours left to when the maintenance ends?

I forgot to feed my ships😭

[cobalt rapids]

dont worry they dont die of starvation

[heady jasper]

oh

[undone plover]

usually the discord has an event to check for maint time https://discord.com/events/456397991847395339/1270983984074985503

[dusk maple]

<t:1723122000>

[heady jasper]

Where did u get this? I dont see it in the server

But thanks

[grizzled sundial]

One time i forgot to resupply food to the dorm for a day and instead of the girl complain about starving , it was a banner that pop up.

[half skiff]

Fckkkk, i think i forgot too

[inland shoal]

Dw they still get exp without food (25% or sth)

[jaunty vault]

but I want 100%

[plain saffron]

I forgot dorm give exp

[frank pulsar]

yall dont starve your ships?

[cobalt rapids]

i overfeed em instead

[eager mulch]

i will never let my amagi-chan starve

[cobalt rapids]

thats very nice of u cooper

[frank pulsar]

my dear unicorn has been starving for over 200 days now

[eager mulch]

[atomic abyss]

...I have to confess
I actually expanded my dorm food bar with gems

[inner delta]

[rapid grail]

epic gaming

[atomic abyss]

It's a simple reason
At 60k I can actually keep it running for over 12h without feeding

At the default I think it's only about 10h?

[cobalt rapids]

could be less depending on how many u run

[atomic abyss]

Right
I have the full dorm

[worldly pewter]

11h 50 min

for 40k

[cobalt rapids]

depends on slots

[atomic abyss]

Yeah I got 6 girls in there

[cobalt rapids]

i think above 4-5 im going into negative supplies so i alternate

[rapid grail]

idk what was with the last event not having oilcap for some reason?>

[atomic abyss]

It did

[cobalt rapids]

HT2 and HT3 both had oilcap

[atomic abyss]

The normal mode didn't

[keen sable]

D3 type cost limit even. I nearly finished every pr on event only. I think I'm at like 70% on daisen

[plain saffron]

hi

[frank pulsar]

bye

[plain saffron]

😔

[nova halo]

is the maint ends?

[cobalt rapids]

in 2min

[nova halo]

kay

[eager mulch]

wake me up when maint end

[sinful escarp]

its supposed to be over, people are already posting they are ingame in the maintenance channel

[atomic abyss]

@eager mulch GOOD MORNING

[left cedar]

Yo cooper, time to woke
🐌

[eager mulch]

[hushed dawn]

How good is Napoli's gun?

Prototype Triple 254mm Model 1939 MGM.

[cobalt rapids]

good on medium but plygun exists

[hushed dawn]

I meant the CA gun.

[cobalt rapids]

ah mb, thats the same as kursk gun

[hushed dawn]

Ah, neat.

[low eagle]

What's this

[jaunty vault]

Unknown Error:-1

check your network
clear app cache
restart game

[low eagle]

Tried those but same issue

[atomic abyss]

Log in to your binds

[plain saffron]

Login again
Token expired or something

[low eagle]

Ty guys, didn't even notice that

[keen sable]

poor bayard got the pits for gear

[plain saffron]

Well hard to notice when it says unknown error

[whole crypt]

if in doubt restart game

[plain saffron]

it won't fix this time

[whole crypt]

if you restart client it should relog you in and fix any expired tokens

[plain saffron]

you tried?

[whole crypt]

every now and then

[plain saffron]

but jp have kinda diff login

[whole crypt]

if it's any sort of login error and connection + server is working then there's no reason why a restart won't fix it

[plain saffron]

this is one situation where it sounds plausible that it won't work so

if you logged out from anything restart won't auto log you in usually

[whole crypt]

isn't login performed when you start app and tap in

[plain saffron]

for jp and en yes, tap once login account, tap another login to game server

[whole crypt]

exactly

[plain saffron]

i'll try it next time

i'm just following the ancient tech support guide

[plain saffron]

I think i should specify that 1st tap is not login twitter etc, it's login to your account using the binds

So in theory if bind if expired nothing will work

[sinful escarp]

that didnt work for me last time i got that error
i had to login my binds to get in

[plain saffron]

I should go see difference between jp and en bind

[timid beacon]

Just got Hermione from the daily roll she any good?

[jaunty vault]

nop

[timid beacon]

Sad

[whole crypt]

to be fair I've never had my account "logged out" from my binds so

[jaunty vault]

Hermione is beautiful but also one of the worse gold CLs

[timid beacon]

She looks good

A shame she isn’t I guess, F

[plain saffron]

But you said you tried

[whole crypt]

I've seen -1 but the game wasn't logged out from bind

as in I didn't need to use bind to get game connected again

[median bridge]

Who should i remove from these to form the best SS wolfpack? U81, U96, U47, U37?

[full leaf]

is 12-1 the best map to farm? im at w11-4 and idk if its worth to push to 12-1

[whole crypt]

do it

[left cedar]

to minmax its 96 81 and 37

[eternal basalt]

12-4... but 12-1 is pref over 11-4 due to potential drops of cog chips

[left cedar]

but 47 and 37 have similar performance, if u wanna go for waifu its hard to notice the diference between them

[whole crypt]

12-1 is better than 12-4 for XP/oil and easier, but 12-4 is better coin significantly

[novel solstice]

I prefer 12-1 over 12-4, because at the point that you're farming 12 the coin is probably irrelevant, and 12-1 being a little easier means I can put trash that I'm leveling for tech bonuses in at a lower level.

But if 12-4 works for your farming fleet, it's fine.

[whole crypt]

if you just reached 12 you're actually around the high point of your coin spend

just adjust to the one you need, it's not like you can't go back and forth

[eternal basalt]

I wish coin could be irrelevant

[whole crypt]

it does become less relevant but that's much later

definitely not when you first reach 12

[eternal basalt]

How much later... played 4 years

[whole crypt]

6.5? 🤷‍♂️

[sinful escarp]

soon™️

[eternal basalt]

At the 6th anni

[whole crypt]

I mean you're still subject to some RNG, like if you're still rolling cats it'll take more

[full leaf]

how do you farm equipment then, cuz im still using poverty dps guns to clear stuff even at 11-4

[whole crypt]

but by year 4 you should be basically completely caught up, so it's just how much you spend on cats or research, unless you slacked any point of those 4 years off

[left cedar]

coin for me its more a trouble cuz i'm constantly reaching my soft cap and i hate to let my merchant coins going overflow and loss any

but guess wut, i spend my oil farming 14-4 cuz no one to lvl

[whole crypt]

gear lab, research

[sinful escarp]

opsi

[whole crypt]

if you can do 11-4 fine then OS shouldn't be too hard to tackle

[sinful escarp]

its a somewhat slow process, but it will eventually build up

[full leaf]

ah ive never touched opsi, thought it was a "clear w13 and you should be good for opsi"

[whole crypt]

I'm still leveling ships because my faction tech not 40k yet

ship levels around 11-12 should do OS fine, it's more picking the right ships and gear

you might have trouble with the harder bosses, but clearing 13 isn't an indicator you're ready for them either

[sinful escarp]

a good mob fleet will carry any lazy ass in opsi zones

[lofty zodiac]

There is no guide for SE fleet tech?

[whole crypt]

most of them are gacha or campaign drops

[lofty zodiac]

[whole crypt]

or older research series

what ship are you trying to unlock and how much are you short by

at some point it's just give up and leveling what you have even if it's low rarity fodder

[cobalt rapids]

SE = sakura or sardegna ?

[lofty zodiac]

Sakura

[eternal basalt]

Sakura anni next month, source of major points due to UR

[whole crypt]

but even without that there's a lot of IJN tech just all over the place, just whether you wait for the bigger SR/UR ones or level fodder

[lofty zodiac]

I am like 200 ft and i look to unlock the pr4 dr

[fiery swan]

i just got my 4th ur bulin do i immediately mlb a) shinano b) vanguard c) wait for anni ur

[eternal basalt]

Also, do you have Shinano and Shimikaze?

[whole crypt]

that's very far off, just work with easier ones first

Izumo alone is going to be 108 if you get her + d30 and lv120

[lofty zodiac]

Ok after i am done with IB i slowly work to unlock pr IJN so

[eternal basalt]

If not grab them while pushing for whatever comes the 15th

[whole crypt]

KMS mostly has a guide because there were less KMS ships and less sources of them back then, but because they're more points per ship nowadays they're actually easier to unlock

[lofty zodiac]

60 run in D4 chessboard only unlock 2 elite ship ...

[whole crypt]

IJN is also somewhat problematic because their ships aren't recommended very much earlier in the game so you don't actually pick and level a lot of them

[lofty zodiac]

[plain saffron]

welcome to rng

good thing they put pity for gold, the rates are lower

[lofty zodiac]

Hihi

[whole crypt]

if you got Gneisenau then Scharnhorst is in shop so you could potentially stop farming Chessboard

[cobalt rapids]

paying 1200 coredata for scharn

[plain saffron]

i would prefer farming WA more

[lofty zodiac]

6more point and i can develop FDG i am good with rng

[plain saffron]

at least you get coins and exp

[whole crypt]

well there's still Deutschland missing there

and if he's lucky Z46 adds another bit

but if you're just down to Scharnhorst there are better places to be spending oil

[plain saffron]

is there any kms in guild shop

[eager mulch]

id pay 12000 core data for amagi-chan

[whole crypt]

spee

and 2 wolves

oh look hipper's there too

[eternal basalt]

Use wishing well the 15th

[whole crypt]

I wanted to add another 0 for something but found out I don't actually have 6 digit cores yet

[lofty zodiac]

By the way i don't see many recomandation for new player but for fleet tech you can save all your guild coin for the elite at 800 it help a lot

[sonic egret]

hello i just got FDR who should i go for next?

[lethal bolt]

Wanna ask if are there any ship in my dock worth raising?

[whole crypt]

why save guild coins when you can earn stupid amounts of it in any active guild

[tranquil gyro]

Which gun better as NJ secondary? Between this two, twin 135mm and twin 127mm

[lofty zodiac]

Maybe i don't found those active guild yet...

[whole crypt]

also it's actually in the guide

[drifting pecan]

try to find one, which server you are?

[whole crypt]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1246721562741178410

most active guilds don't really mind taking as long as they have vacancies

[slender heart]

Move to series 4

[sonic egret]

who there?

[slender heart]

Need to know where you are at the game currently, and raise for what

[slender heart]

Agir, ancho, haku, etc

[drifting pecan]

for me it was z46 and tashkent, maybe other can tell which one more preferable

[sonic egret]

in order? or just anyone

[whole crypt]

you can't really go wrong with any of the PR4 ships but Anchorage first would be a good and easy tank to develop for moving into harder stuff

[warm latch]

ancho probably the easiest one to max first

[slender heart]

Id do agir or ancho first

[sonic egret]

aight thanks

[lethal bolt]

havent really pushed pash ch 12-1

[whole crypt]

that said Marco Polo and AvP specifically do not really see use before FS5

[slender heart]

Get your best ships to chapter 12 first, then raise ships there

[lethal bolt]

as in clear ch 12 overall?

[warm latch]

12-4 is the best place to farm coins afaik

[whole crypt]

looks like more than enough to clear 12-4 to me

[slender heart]

Oh you're in 12-1? Then see if you can finish it

[lethal bolt]

its more on ive been kinda lazy in doing main campain

[whole crypt]

well clear 12-4 then we can sort out who you need to level to build 2 proper fleets for 13

[lethal bolt]

got it

[keen sable]

12-1 is fine in general. My alt stopped there for a long time (like years)

[whole crypt]

at this point you can just Alsace/Unicorn and steamroll through 12-4 with 1 fleet

12-1 is fine for XP but 12-4 is more morale efficient if you wait for regen and bonus, and also more coins at a point where you're usually still high on coin spend

[lofty zodiac]

How fast an active guild take down an hard OP?

[slender heart]

What is OP?

[lofty zodiac]

Guild operations

[whole crypt]

an active large guild usually in the range of 10 days or so for solomon

[heavy anvil]

Would San Diego retro still prefer a DD gun to Plymouth gun

[sinful elk]

Chat does Theseus perform better than Sara in mobbing?

[blissful hamlet]

Sara with her augment is better

[sinful elk]

a gold seafang is better than a purple corsair right?

[whole crypt]

not really no

[sinful elk]

[whole crypt]

seafang is a deadend, corsairs can be upgraded to flapjacks for plate refund

also cheaper to enhance to start with

[sinful elk]

Nah i mean in term of performing in battles

[whole crypt]

Seafang will be better only by virtue of 20 more AVI

[sinful elk]

[wild whale]

I have 138 dr1-6 prints I can A) fatesim haku who I use a lot or B) feed a bunch to kearsarge or hindy neither of which are dev30. Which would you choose?

[whole crypt]

whichever of Hindenburg or Kearsarge is closer to 30

[narrow wyvern]

What's the best w11 map? Do I clear 11-1?

[whole crypt]

best 11 map for what?

[narrow wyvern]

Commander XP, PR ship grind, etc. Uh, general map, I guess?

[whole crypt]

commander XP is the same unless you're overleveled, per oil then 11-1 is better
PR grind 11-1 is best XP/oil
general map just move on to 12

[narrow wyvern]

Ideally best for Commander EXP since I'm trying to get to w12 asap so I can spam 12-1 for EXP

[whole crypt]

if you're level locked then just 11-1 until you can do 12

[narrow wyvern]

Gotcha. I'm level locked so I really wanna get to 12-1 asap so I can get more PR ships and potentially get my other ships to level 110+ quicker

[hushed aurora]

I got shinano. Is it worth it to go for her max lb or wait for the next upcoming ur ship? Maybe she doesnt even fit my current fleets

[wind hazel]

i'd say wait

[whole crypt]

we don't know what the new UR will be, you could just slowly level Shinano while waiting then you can decide whether to LB after UR info comes

[hushed aurora]

to what lvl do you guys normal use books for lvl until she is safe enough to get carried?

[whole crypt]

depends on what you're carrying her with, I started leveling Nakhimov from 1

[hushed aurora]

so for what are books good then because I get daily around 30+

[whole crypt]

you can bump her as much as you want, just because I started from 1 doesn't mean you have to start from 1, and you're not using the fleet I'm using either so I'm not going to guarantee you can start from 1 either

alternatively some people like to use packs on tech fodder they can't be bothered to actually use to level

[rain vine]

i just use exp books to get through limitbreak levels

[cobalt rapids]

Lvl advantage scaling is linear, xp isnt

[whole crypt]

what linear xp

[misty knoll]

i just hit UR exchange pity, should i get shimakaze or new jersey? i have shinano, sovetsky and alsace as my current UR's

[cobalt rapids]

Shinano is mlb?

[soft raft]

Shinano if she isnt MLB
NJ Otherwise

[misty knoll]

im one off MLB

[cobalt rapids]

Nano dupe then

[misty knoll]

so i guess ill go with that

[heady jasper]

Are any of these good for campaign?

[cobalt rapids]

No but aurora is exceptionally good sometimes someplace else

[heady jasper]

Niche ?

[whole crypt]

Javelin is fine but she's probably not your starter and your starter will be doing better with levels

[cobalt rapids]

Anti boss when her skill works

[whole crypt]

Aurora good against some DD/CL bosses

[heady jasper]

Ohh

[whole crypt]

but not really a thing in campaign

[heady jasper]

her?

[marble cargo]

is the wiki updated, i dont see Yamakaze in the merit pool

[heady jasper]

ight

this?

[whole crypt]

looks like shop page not updated but #wiki-feedback

[heady jasper]

ight

[cobalt rapids]

Are u pulling perma banners ?

[whole crypt]

pls2not pull perm heavy/special

[drifting pecan]

seem, he's bought from shop

[civic crag]

How to build dmg agir

[forest palm]

you can't even pull Bart anymore

[forest palm]

for what reason? she's not meant to do that

[civic crag]

Fr?

[forest palm]

she's a tank first, and foremost, so yes

[civic crag]

Oh whoops ok

[whole crypt]

well if he's pulling req it's still a waste of medals, even if no cubes were harmed

[forest palm]

right...Req exists lol

[whole crypt]

no one uses Agir in her "damage mode", if you have to bring Agir you use her for her durability, there are better DPS ships out there

[civic crag]

Oh ok like Hindenburg

[whole crypt]

yeh she's basically the opposite, you don't use Hindenburg in her durability mode either

[civic crag]

Okays

[opaque hill]

Guys I have a question, I have an extra shinano that I don’t know what to do with should I scrap her or should I build her

It probably a bad idea to try and build her but idk

[viscid swift]

use her to limit break the first copy, if she's MLb already scrap her

[forest palm]

you get special cores, and 30 medals out of it

[plain saffron]

*spec core counts towards monthly limit

[opaque hill]

Yeah she’s maxed already guess I’ll scrap

[gray aurora]

hey everyone
what should be my mlb prio? i got 8 bullins and i got all other UR except sashi
im doing shinano passively with my daily pulls

[keen sable]

vanguard and hold

[forest palm]

Shinano would probably be the best pick of those, but I'd probably put a hold on UR Bulin use for next month

[abstract solar]

How do banners with 2 UR work? When you reach 200 pulls, you can select the one you want?

[forest palm]

there has been no event gacha with 2 URs

[keen sable]

you mean the perm spark? there's never been an event with 2 ur

[abstract solar]

Waa weren't magador and alsace together? I wasn't playing at the time

[forest palm]

Magador was in the shop, Alsace was gacha

[keen sable]

but mogador isn't a gatcha ship

[abstract solar]

Ooh it makes sense now

Thanks for the help guys

[livid vine]

can you auto 15-4 with 3 sakura empire in backline on fleet 1?

[plain saffron]

fleet as in mob or boss?

[jaunty vault]

try it

[plain saffron]

boss/2 prob doable

[livid vine]

mob mosty the one that attacks more

[plain saffron]

i doubt any sakura can beat unicorn but you can try

[jaunty vault]

difficult to survive mob without a decent healer

[plain saffron]

boss can do like musashi shinano ryuuhou or something i think?

hard to replace uni

[spice phoenix]

i bought a ton of these a bit ago, but now i have no idea who to give em to. is it a good sub equip or vanguard only?

forgot to include image mb

[plain saffron]

only on torp ship and only when not dying or manual, or only for hard stage requirements

also on some subs which i do not remember who

[spice phoenix]

thanks!

[livid vine]

is the new series 7 rainbow plane any good?

[livid vine]

ill see if i can make 2 work + uni

[soft raft]

straight upgrade to the BF109 G

[iron meteor]

for my first pr4 do i go for this or agir or anchorage

[eternal basalt]

Both are good (so not AvP)

[frank pulsar]

ancho first

[soft raft]

prob Anchorage first
you can do AvP later

[keen sable]

isn't that just something meta like musashi, unicorn, shinano?

[silk helm]

is there a best pr6 non ur ship

[viscid swift]

Shimanto

[frank pulsar]

shimanto i guess? kear and hindy have much bigger impact though

[silk helm]

just want to know who to use the blue prints on

[vale spindle]

If someone asks about the aux gear skin not being an aux i added it to pins

[sweet delta]

Could change within the next month

[silk helm]

okay thanks, don't think ill unlock it within a month

[wispy creek]

what is going on with the sub augment crit rate? the augment has a buff to Torp Crit rate for 10%. the skill specific language says her crit rate increases by 1. from my understanding the crit rate formula is a 1>x>0 formula where 0.65 would be a 65% crit rate. adding 1 to that guarantees a crit. so then why buff the crit rate?? or am i dumb

[sweet delta]

They probably forgot a dollar in U96 skill or something

[wispy creek]

what would a $ do? some coding language thing i dont know

[inner delta]

it's just something they use to represent i don't remember maybe % or smth

[dire marten]

what's the best aircraft for Halford?

[soft raft]

The seaplane from PR7
It's basically purpose made for her

[dawn quarry]

Guys what should i do now?

[frank pulsar]

grind 6-4 until youre high enough commander level

[dawn quarry]

alright 👍

when will new banner come out? second phase?

[viscid swift]

probably the 15th

[keen sable]

Passionate Polaris SP5 or maybe Iris of the Light and Dark D1 in War Archives if you can. If not then repeating maps is a fact of life in Azur Lane.

[stark quiver]

Will the 2x gems reset before the promise ring crate goes away

[shell willow]

we will probably know after stream

[dawn quarry]

Wats dat?

[tame jungle]

pack with 2 oath rings in it for a slight discount

[soft raft]

every anniv (for your region only), the first time purchase 2x bonus for gem packs is reset
And also they sell a 2 oath ring pack

[dawn quarry]

:0

[tame jungle]

anyway the promise crate deal seems to last until the 28th so i'm pretty sure we'll get the reset before that

[dawn quarry]

Can you only buy oath ring on anniv? don't see it anywhere

[ionic pewter]

how many wyverns should i farm? only got two so far

[worldly pewter]

depends on what u want to do

[tame jungle]

shop > items > promise ring

[tame jungle]

@worldly pewter why the javno reaction to this lol

[worldly pewter]

because he asked about the gems and not rings

[dawn quarry]

eh but its only with gem? Not reel money? You can only buy 3? One in item and 2 in pack

[worldly pewter]

sry i m f2p so i thought they are separated

[tame jungle]

it's ok lol

[tame jungle]

pack is 1 time purchase during select occasions and contains 2 rings
oath ring in items shop can be bought without limit

gems are acquired with real money, f2p gems are extremely limited and if you wanna stay f2p in azur lane you're not gonna go and buy rings

[dawn quarry]

ohhh its unlimited 😮

Just noticed it rn XD

[narrow wyvern]

Me when I spent the anni gems back then for skins

Jokes aside, does ship mood drop more if they reach certain HP thresholds or is that limited to just sinking?

[cobalt rapids]

sinking

[narrow wyvern]

So basically just worry about auto sending my ships down the sea, gotcha

[cobalt rapids]

[tame jungle]

keep the ladies alive!

[narrow wyvern]

Probably shouldn't happen but it's concerning seeing my ships hit like 50% HP when I get to like 90% when I manually pilot it

[ionic pewter]

that's a good question

[narrow wyvern]

I might have to get more levels and better gear in for 12-1 since idt auto's gonna be a good idea even with threat level at safe, I guess

[cobalt rapids]

best way to find out is to try

then u can see what u have to improv

[abstract ore]

Is the proto spearfish better than the wyvern, what the difference between these 2?

[narrow wyvern]

Last thing, any notable ships that I should invest on or level up? Excluding collab ships since I don't have their augments.

I'm only really interested in PR ships for the most part. A lot of the ships I like and use for practicality are basically "levelled" at this point besides the best gears and lv120

[cobalt rapids]

different ordnance, wyvern can intercept
and spearfish isnt better than wyvern

[abstract ore]

Jeanne d arc

[narrow wyvern]

In a few days or so, I'm still Commander lv79 atm and I still have to get 12-1 to safe

[abstract ore]

Ok thx

[livid vine]

who does Owari work with?

[narrow wyvern]

I've heard she's good and she's like a boss killer? She has anti-CA/CL stuff or smth when I read her skills iirc

[cobalt rapids]

first row and sandy except london raise to 120
then sara and pick a gold bb from owari riche monarch hood dork, owari would be best but she costs gold bulin then work on ur pr4 and fdg

[abstract ore]

Something like that, i cant be more specific bout her but shes good

Also shokaku zuikaku is decent for boss

[cobalt rapids]

any1

[abstract ore]

Also maybe invest swiftsure for AA

Ye maybe no

[tame jungle]

Swiftsure no bueno :(

[abstract ore]

I used here before i got san diego for AA

[atomic abyss]

There are much better budget options for AA than swiftsure

[abstract ore]

Still use her for mob tho

[narrow wyvern]

Definitely already using them so it'll happen. I do want to know other "sleeper" options that I might not have levelled since I noticed I have a bunch of SSRs lying around.

I was recommended to run these for non-PR grind
Mob Fleet:
Main

• Amagi, Unicorn, Saratoga
  Vanguard
• Portland, Ayanami/Laffey, San Francisco

Boss Fleet
Main

• Musashi, Enterprise, Vanguard
  Vanguard
• Roon, Helena, Mainz

[cobalt rapids]

sounds fine except rotate amagi at 120 out

for owari or monarch

[abstract ore]

Get FDG for mob

[atomic abyss]

Quite the opposite
She's a tank support, not a DPS

[narrow wyvern]

Sandy's already there so I doubt I really need the AA since I can have passive intercepts with a CV to help with that

[abstract ore]

Or hood

[atomic abyss]

Juneau Kai exists if they need more AA

[cobalt rapids]

they alr got a sandy retro thats more than enough till w15

[narrow wyvern]

Oh right, how does Owari's friend thingy work? I think I saw a tierlist have a tag on her that meant she needed a pair or smth

[atomic abyss]

Just use her as flagship and there's no issue with the skill proc really

[abstract ore]

What chapter is this fleet for?

[cobalt rapids]

she has a easy to fulfill condition, doesnt rly need anything specific

[narrow wyvern]

Any, I'm currently commander level locked so it's more or less "I'm basically gonna end up 120-ing my main ships while trying to catch up, I need other stuff to level"

[cobalt rapids]

lvl ur good ships to 120 then

thats the baseline lvl u wanna aim for when rotating ships out

[narrow wyvern]

Oh right, what if Musashi hits 120, do I rotate her out as well? Her damage is really high and quick so I'm not sure if I have someone that can bring a similar result for boss fights

[abstract ore]

Nah

Shes core damage

[cobalt rapids]

musashi vanguard enterprise sandy helena unicorn safe to 125

[abstract ore]

I feel like musashi is the best bb currently

[cobalt rapids]

i dont feel like that

[viscid swift]

Debatable and a rather pointless title

[abstract ore]

Her 2 salvo deal more damage than nj 3 salvo

[atomic abyss]

And NJ is far from the best BB now anyways

[crimson glacier]

you are comparing musashi to one of the weakest UR BBs so ofc she is better

[sweet delta]

I feel like musashi is a best bb currently

[abstract ore]

I thought NJ was good or maybe the best ppl say

[crimson glacier]

for campaign probably

[atomic abyss]

NJ was the best like 3 years ago

[crimson glacier]

NJ is good coz she is UR, she just isnt a good for UR

[soft raft]

she's still viable if you lack a majority of the UR BBs but she's no Musashi/Soyuz/BZ/Alsace

[atomic abyss]

Not to mention, why are you even using a non MLB Musashi anyways

[forest palm]

she isn't even bad Torva is just grossly exaggerating

[crimson glacier]

you are seeing things

[late flame]

torva hates nj

[forest palm]

Torva hates everything

[abstract ore]

How bout keasarge

[crimson glacier]

bad for campaign good for some opsi stuff

[abstract ore]

In term of FP

[narrow wyvern]

I honestly forgot 125 was a thing

[cobalt rapids]

everything depends on content

[atomic abyss]

You don't look at ships just based on just their FP stat

Gotta look at the whole package

[narrow wyvern]

Guess I'll return when my tanks are nearing 120, I need some good stuff to work with

[abstract ore]

Eh i just want to see those 100k+ damage dealt thing in Guild op

[cobalt rapids]

kearsarge is maybe the best UR bb in current meta showdown and the worst UR one in w15

[viscid swift]

Jeanne d'Arc's main job is making your vanguard live longer

[sweet delta]

Hi feedback assistant what determines if a bug report gets accepted to #known-bugs , and what determines whether devs will see it

i submitted the exact same report that got ghosted 2 months ago and it was accepted this time

[crimson glacier]

every UR is OP as fuck in guild boss

[narrow wyvern]

iirc I was recommended to get Anchorage soon after FDG and stuff

[atomic abyss]

Tell that to res not me, I'm retired from the role lol

[abstract ore]

Fdg is flexible i think

Can mob and boss

[crimson glacier]

fdg is very good at mob falls off at single target

[narrow wyvern]

Alr, she's gonna be a great help since idrk much about the current tanks outside of the KMS PR ships and what-not. And the usual EVA saving my ass kinda stuff

[abstract ore]

London is decent imo

[viscid swift]

the best tanks are basically the Large Cruisers, Napoli, and Anchorage

[crimson glacier]

london has ok dmg shit everything else

[abstract ore]

Belfast for the eva smoke skill thing

[crimson glacier]

her smoke is pretty bad

[narrow wyvern]

Large Cruisers are the CBs right?

[viscid swift]

definitely not

[abstract ore]

How long those smoke last tho

[forest palm]

wtf is this 2018 AL

[abstract ore]

Man im stuck here

[crimson glacier]

like half a second before you move out from the smoke

[viscid swift]

10s after battle starts and **20% chance every 20s **after that: deploys a smokescreen that increases Evasion Rate by 15% (35%) and decreases DMG taken from enemy aircraft by 15% (35%) for all your ships inside it. Smokescreen lasts for 10s, and does not stack with other smokescreens.
that's the issue

[atomic abyss]

There are ships with guaranteed smokescreen procs like Anchorage or Harbin

[narrow wyvern]

Oh right, .

FDG then my next target is AVP?

[viscid swift]

the proc rate is very bloody low, too low to be consistent

[cobalt rapids]

anchorage then aegir then avp

[atomic abyss]

Belfast smoke is just an old pvp meta

[abstract ore]

Ye good option if u need backline

[soft raft]

in certain contexts yes

would take Ancho first tho, she has more use cases than AvP

[narrow wyvern]

Gotcha, I was recommended AVP/FDG back then and then I got extra people saying FDG then AVP for CVs or smth

[soft raft]

PR4 prio would prob be somethin like Ancho > AvP > the DRs

Insert Marco anywhere after Ancho so you can max her out and get rid of her fac research

[abstract ore]

I got Agir first for Pr4

Then Avp - ancho- hakuryuu

[narrow wyvern]

On the topic of PR, I was told to get 2-3 of the 406 AP gun (I forgor its name), what are the other things I should be aiming for?

I forgot to ask if I should just research for Tenrai(?) or buy it from the Protocores

[abstract ore]

Drake gun maybe

Or the twin prop plane

Forgot the name

[viscid swift]

after you get the champiagn guns go for the Tenrai, you want 2 before you leave PR4

[narrow wyvern]

Mfw Tenrai's expensive as shit

[abstract ore]

Damn bruh, i only have 1 tenrai in my whole career

[narrow wyvern]

Fortunately Helldiver's been amazing since launch

[cobalt rapids]

fdg or ancho first its fine either
u want either of them so u can coin them asap
anchorage into aegir usually because they are chunky tanks and one of the biggest upgrades to new players since ure suddenly getting 2 endgame tanks, in ur case here aswell
they also work at earlier dev lvls compared to others however that is not a problem for anchorage since coining + catchup will make her d30 asap
that is why u build em first
avp can go after since shes a freeze bot and also needs fs5
haku usually last since she needs high dev so u usually are done with the others by the time u got haku dev high enough

[wild hollow]

Hey, im a new player and was looking at a tier list, whats BB/BC/etc or CV/CVL??

[abstract ore]

BB = big gun slow tanky
BC = decent gun kinda fast not as tanky

[narrow wyvern]

I'm already working on FDG, I should be done in two weeks or so depending on how much I grind. Faster if I drop my ships down to like 30 mood or smth

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Glossary#Hull_Class

[cobalt rapids]

dont make ur shipgirls dissapoint

[narrow wyvern]

Dorms exist

[abstract ore]

I use the 3K method

[cobalt rapids]

dorms dont fix affinity

[narrow wyvern]

Wait, does mood actually drop affinity or smth if it gets too low? I thought it just prevented progression

[soft raft]

huh wdym

[abstract ore]

Wait nvm that for agir

[inner delta]

it's the k sister

[soft raft]

if it reaches 0 your ships get 50% less XP

[crimson glacier]

0 mood starts reducing your affinity and gives you -50% exp

[cobalt rapids]

besides xp loss u lose affinity aswell

[narrow wyvern]

Oh, that's not an issue. I've hit like 19 at lowest. I should probably be fine since w11 seems to give way more EXP than 10-4

and by that, I mean I had to do less runs per day

[cobalt rapids]

its shrimple if u get the warning then just let em rest and dont ignore it

[narrow wyvern]

Yeah, I got that warning back then

[abstract ore]

just switch fleet at that point

[narrow wyvern]

I wondered what mood they were at since I was AFK for like 2 hours. I was shocked when I saw them at 19 mood

[keen sable]

+20% only gaming

[narrow wyvern]

But I just basically aim for > 1 mood and I should be good, yeah?

[abstract ore]

Maybe use the 2x exp thing to speed up

[crimson glacier]

it doesnt really speed anything up

[viscid swift]

that doesn't help since you double your morale drain

[narrow wyvern]

A bit of sacrifice, to make the grind easier.

[cobalt rapids]

aim for >39

[abstract ore]

Didnt know that

[wild hollow]

And how does usually a team looks like? There are only 6 spots and i see a lot of different types of ships?

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
give that a read

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

try giving these a read

[soft raft]

heavily context dependent and on a ship-to-ship basis
there is no easy answer to such a general question

[crimson glacier]

if its mob team then unicorn is there

[narrow wyvern]

The other links sent might be better, but you can check this out eventually when you're a bit further ahead

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

[abstract ore]

Perseus better

[viscid swift]

she's not

[crimson glacier]

perseus is literally discount unicorn

[soft raft]

not after Unicorn retrofit came out

Which was 2 years ago

[abstract ore]

I used them both with UvH

[crimson glacier]

costs more resources while performing worse

[abstract ore]

To spam mob

[crimson glacier]

what you use is irrelevant

[viscid swift]

sounds like a somewhat questionable mob fleet for any content

[soft raft]

should've used FdG instead otherwise UvH's whole ass gimmick was wasted for nothing

[abstract ore]

Ik i just dont want my ship HP below 90%

In op

[crimson glacier]

that doesnt really change the fact that the fleet is bad

[viscid swift]

among other things that can be achieved by killing stuff quicker and more efficiently

[soft raft]

Aquila would be a better option for a secondary healer since she would have some semblance of DPS while Perseus's DPS falls straight off a cliff if the fight doesnt end in 30s

[narrow wyvern]

Wouldn't it just be the equivalent to getting 2 runs at the time cost of 1? So it's better for people without much time to leave their phones on auto or manually play

[abstract ore]

Eh just for clearing area thibg

[viscid swift]

yes, it's only a time saver

[eternal moth]

I don't remember. To earn fleet tech, does a PR ship need to be dev30, or is just getting to 120 enough?

[viscid swift]

just 120 is good enough

[keen sable]

although it doesn't help with for example the previous event missions to run maps 60 times which is actually quite a bit.

[cobalt rapids]

MLB/d30 to benefit
collect/120 to provide

[narrow wyvern]

Yeah, that's good enough for me. My uni classes this sem are from 1pm to 7pm, technically 10am to 8:30pm if we count travel time and me getting ready in the morning. I can leave my phone AFK'd for a while but I still prefer to do stuff here

[abstract ore]

You have a laptop or PC?

[narrow wyvern]

This, I can understand. I was shocked to see 60 runs on the event missions, I mostly used the 2x runs to save time and grab what I need from the store

It does get you to like 10k points iirc? Assuming it's 180/run

[abstract ore]

I usually afk farm with my pc, my phone woulda explode if i afk farm

[keen sable]

my alt ended with like 25k but only 38 runs

[narrow wyvern]

Again, I'm a uni student. I can't afford to AFK on anything that isn't my phone and a time constraint. I have a PC but I'm out for most of the day and doing household chores or studying with it

[livid vine]

i cant figure out how make sakura backline to auto 15-4, best i di was 2/2, i use unti for the trash fleet and volga in boss, i couldnt figure out how make shoushou to work, maybe i should auto 14-4 with sakura ships

[atomic abyss]

well firstly, faction fleets are kinda trash

[cobalt rapids]

volga isnt sakura

[livid vine]

ik i said that anyways it s for pr unlock

[atomic abyss]

then do it on w12

[cobalt rapids]

did u bring the stage to safe?

[atomic abyss]

you can farm there for less oil and far shittier comps

[livid vine]

recomed setup for sakura backline on 12?

[cobalt rapids]

3 sakura ships

[atomic abyss]

literally any works

that's why w12 is recommended

[livid vine]

i figued but if im going low oil do i do 3/1 or what

[atomic abyss]

no such thing as 3/1

[crimson glacier]

there is no low oil

[atomic abyss]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[narrow wyvern]

Oil cap exists, that shouldn't be an issue

[keen sable]

how does 3:1 save you oil?

[cobalt rapids]

low oil in oilcap is griefing

[crimson glacier]

3:1 costs the same oil as 3:3

[livid vine]

then i dont get this comment

[atomic abyss]

lower level, unoptimised comps
and oilcap on w12 maps is lower

[cobalt rapids]

the oilcap is lower

[livid vine]

so if i use the same ships on 15-4 it costs less on 12-4?

[crimson glacier]

yes

[keen sable]

i don't get the first part either. oil/xp is oil/xp. cost per run is mostly irrelevant

[crimson glacier]

higher level = higher oil cap

[keen sable]

cost is irrelevant. xp/oil is life

[tropic tusk]

Is w12-4 better for money farm or w13-4?

[narrow wyvern]

You can run anything without strict requirements. I assume w14 requires 115+ ships to clear properly but w12 would just need 100+ to clear so you can run without thinking too much about the comp

[crimson glacier]

13

[cobalt rapids]

oil/xp in w15 is lower than w12 then

[abstract ore]

Barecat or tigercat?

[tropic tusk]

Thx

[atomic abyss]

neither, craft flapjacks

[abstract ore]

Ok

[tropic tusk]

How do I make it green?

[crimson glacier]

beat the boss more

[atomic abyss]

repeate the map again and again and again

[tropic tusk]

Ok thx

[atomic abyss]

w14 needs 120+
12-1 can be done on safe with under level 90 ships even

[abstract ore]

What is actually good sub torp in gear lab

[hollow gust]

perferably bidder but g7e is fine

[atomic abyss]

bidder torps
that's all

[abstract ore]

Ok

[cobalt rapids]

bidder/g7e/95kai

[atomic abyss]

g7e you get the BPs from sub weekly anyways

[abstract ore]

How bout the normal 95 the gold

[cobalt rapids]

no

[atomic abyss]

interim option at best

[keen sable]

not certain why you would craft any sub torp that wasn't gear lab exclusive (in gear lab)

[abstract ore]

I can craft some of those in craft depot

I have like 100+ G7e

And some gold 95

[narrow wyvern]

Under 90 assuming +10 gears, probably BiS gears, maybe manual? I think my auto loves running into suicide bombers and torps a lot since I doubt my ships should be getting down to <50% HP when they're 105+ vs 103s

[keen sable]

people with classes shouldn't manual farm

[tropic tusk]

When w13-4 becomes green is it possible to bring random team into the mob team to level up? Like how U do it on w12-4

[hollow gust]

bad fleets

[viscid swift]

12-1 is easily doable on safe with level 90 ships on auto

[narrow wyvern]

I have 2 days of vacation left

[cobalt rapids]

random ships yes, random teams no'

they will need carries in 13-4

[mystic topaz]

In a given mission, is there any benefit to clearing all enemies? Or do i only need to focus on the boss?

[weak dust]

if i retire these ships do i keep the tech points

[viscid swift]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

once for 3* star, thats it

[tropic tusk]

So U need uni and udachi must be in team ?

[weak dust]

ty

[narrow wyvern]

My mob fleet is decent so I doubt that's the issue. I play manually and I'm at >90% whenever I pilot it

[tropic tusk]

Y not keep all ship

[inner delta]

dock space is not free

[tropic tusk]

U still need to retrofit them for tech points

[weak dust]

no dock space

wat...?

[crimson glacier]

you can use low level shit in w12 with auto just fine

[soft raft]

No you dont

[tropic tusk]

U don't?

[inner delta]

retro just add to collection % not tech

[tropic tusk]

Oh

Well don't U want to complete the collection?

[crimson glacier]

no if you are new

[inner delta]

dock space isn't free

[weak dust]

so i retro them... then retire?

[inner delta]

unless you want to share gem pack around

[keen sable]

clearly you don't care about collection %?

[weak dust]

do i need to keep them for collection %

[crimson glacier]

no

[keen sable]

you need to retrofit them for collection % and keep anyone who might get a retrofit for collection %

[weak dust]

so once i collect them the collection % num wont go down if i retire?

[tropic tusk]

I mean U clearly don't care % might as well just ignore that part 🤣 since it gives U nothing

[cobalt rapids]

if ure new u dont have to resources to throw on retrofit for every ship u get, if u care about collection % then better retire easy to get ships like the commons and then get em later when u got the resources to insta do it

[abstract ore]

Which sub i should invest

[cobalt rapids]

archer albacore flasher

[weak dust]

oki

[tropic tusk]

Flasher stronger or 3u?

[abstract ore]

And 3 more?

[cobalt rapids]

wdym 3 more

[abstract ore]

I need 2 fleet of sub

[tropic tusk]

3 is enough

[cobalt rapids]

why

[abstract ore]

Idk for show 🙂

[cobalt rapids]

96 37 81 then

[keen sable]

did anyone mention you need to 120 for fleet tech collection

[sweet delta]

Devs gave us 2 campaign sub fleets 🧠

[tropic tusk]

🤣oh ya U also need level 120 for tech points

[wispy pendant]

does new u-96 aug change the wolf fleets strength compared to fish?

[whole crypt]

no

[soft raft]

It basically gave her barrage more torps

[crimson glacier]

isnt it just +10% torp stat

oh nvm i didnt remember the conditional right

[jaunty glade]

If i were to purchase the max gem pack for 2x, and buy the cruise pass - what should be my priorities as a newbie to spend those gems?

[vale spindle]

Its +10% more trp crit rate and +10% more trp stat, and the barrage improvement

although i dont have numbers so it might not be an improvement in practice xd

[sweet delta]

Dorm second floor, at least one more dorm slot, however many dock slots you need, maybe the third skill training slot, and whatever rings or skins you want

[vale spindle]

actually didnt the normal sub augment give crit rate anyways

[jaunty glade]

is buying all dorm slots worth it?

[sweet delta]

Positive number isn't improvement?

Only if you farm a lot and want to have two fleets in dorm or have all 6 ships in one fleet be in the second floor

[crimson glacier]

yes sam like all unique augs it also gives the basic version

[vale spindle]

some unique augs give something special for the base aug skill

[crimson glacier]

huh really

[grizzled wave]

what does leveling up a past lvl 10 do to a BB gun?

[vale spindle]

this update we had long island aug do that bro lol

[crimson glacier]

i didnt even bother with it

or should i say brother

[grizzled wave]

it says damage mod but is that like the percentage of damage to each armor increases?

[vale spindle]

its not the only one, theres a few more that also were different

[crimson glacier]

thats funny

shame on me for expecting consistency

[vale spindle]

it increases the weapon coefficient modifier
for example a weapon is normally at 100%, but damage mod lvl 3 makes it 118%

[sweet delta]

It's a multiplier so +13 gun does 18% more damage than its +10 version without counting opsi siren killer

[vale spindle]

some weapons start higher than 100% and therefore their final one at +13 is also higher

why is this number not shown in game? ask devs

[crimson glacier]

yeah but its always +18% effectively

so really no reason to bother with that chart

[grizzled wave]

is this the imfamous sam who made sams guide lolol i was reading the guide rn and was tryna figure it out

[vale spindle]

effectively its +18% dmg compared to +10 yes

[eager mulch]

that was samheart563, his lesser evil twin

[vale spindle]

[crimson glacier]

im waiting for the 565 model before investing

[vale spindle]

The +13 guide has info on what +13 does in small font on the bottom, u gotta open in new tab and zoom to read it though

[grizzled wave]

gotcha tyty

wait im sorry idk if i got it

[sweet delta]

Gear Properties

[grizzled wave]

no ik but im trying to think so would that 40% become 44%?

bc damage mod 1 10->11 is 4%

[whole crypt]

that's armour modifier, not damage mod/coeff

[grizzled wave]

ooo

[vale spindle]

weapon coeff is different

[whole crypt]

the armour mod doesn't change, there's a separate multiplier that's not shown on the details

[grizzled wave]

ahhh okay i figured thanks yall

[vale spindle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Final_Damage_Dealt if you want to dive deep into it lol

[grizzled wave]

💀 yeahhh maybe next time lol

[eager mulch]

564 suggesting deep dives into damage calcs, told you he was evil

[grizzled wave]

if I have the twin 457mm can I just invest in 2 champy guns instead of 3?

[atomic abyss]

no

the twin 457 has higher rof than the champagne guns, desyncing the ship with Helena procs and fellow BBs

[grizzled wave]

ahh okay

[keen sable]

promise pack

[atomic abyss]

you could use the 457 on mobs in later maps yes tho

there are alternative to the champagne gun

[grizzled wave]

K imma work on getting 3 champys

[atomic abyss]

either you got soyuz gun in her event, or got the flandre gun from PR6

[grizzled wave]

missed soyuz 😭 started replaying too late

[reef flume]

I feel your pain man

[grizzled wave]

dude is so bad I missed alsace by less than a month 😭 too too too much pain

[reef flume]

Dang that's bad. I started playing in april and when I saw I missed Soyuz I felt bad

Tho I got my Alsace

[grizzled wave]

i got NJ/UvH/shima on their first runs years ago

and then quit cuz of school

[reef flume]

Ah

[grizzled wave]

now most of them r in the perm pool lol

[atomic abyss]

how much asw do i need for gnei meta exactly

[cobalt rapids]

one x 🦔

[viscid swift]

+13 hedgehog on a CL is enough

[atomic abyss]

i still feel like im taking a fair bit of punishment

guess i'll try +13

CV or BB?

[viscid swift]

I did BBs, among other reasons good luck trying to keep concealment

[atomic abyss]

was worried about that
what did you use for frontline?

[viscid swift]

Agir, Plymouth, Hindenburg

[atomic abyss]

so you do need a tank

[wispy pendant]

how far are people with Nakhimov? When might we see full dev testing?

[atomic abyss]

that would explain a lot

[hollow gust]

month at min

[viscid swift]

I'm this far

[atomic abyss]

i imagine we'll see nakhimov tests in mid Sep for those that focused on her

otherwise, probably 2 months

[eternal basalt]

And then no-one has fighter either

[atomic abyss]

i for one am getting more luck with napoli prints cos of rng

[wispy pendant]

I'm guessing that Chkalov still a good ship to pair with Nakhimov? I was thinking of taking chkalov to 125 in prep

[atomic abyss]

likely but "we don't know" is the answer

[wispy pendant]

i have 4/50 prints, so I"m getting close

[atomic abyss]

la-9s are pretty slow, so if nakhimov uses them wellll
and chkalov is pretty fast

it's either soyuz, chkalov or voroshilov or kron

unless they throw yet another NP event at us this year that gives a slower

[hollow gust]

just slow the entire fleet down with more la-9

[wispy pendant]

la-9 slows?

[atomic abyss]

no, it's a slow reload plane

[crimson glacier]

slows the launch

[wispy pendant]

i don't think that's what they meant by "slower"

[atomic abyss]

i was referring to both

[crimson glacier]

what else would " slow the entire fleet down" mean

[atomic abyss]

chkalov launches are pretty fast to begin with
so a nakhimov with an La-9 may not be able to maximise the freeze

or so the theory crafting goes anyways

[eager mulch]

I will shrimply use implac

[wispy pendant]

"unless they throw yet another NP event at us this year that gives a slower"

[atomic abyss]

unfortunately then you miss out on the 40% crit buff

[hollow gust]

[eager mulch]

I will shrimply not use nyak

[worldly pewter]

isn't cat giga busted

[crimson glacier]

why

[wispy pendant]

is that what we're going to call her?

[viscid swift]

or just use Implacable with Nahkimov

[worldly pewter]

the simulation showed her damage is kinda cracked

[wispy pendant]

doesn't the slow need to come from a NP ship?

[eager mulch]

isn’t almost every ur ship in the game giga busted and not necessary for the completion of end game content

[soft raft]

that kinda means jack shit when the simulator enemies are pretty weak

[wispy pendant]

we have more than 28 UR ships these days, it's kinda crazy

[crimson glacier]

and backline has insane giga mega reload buff in simulation

[atomic abyss]

to get the most out of nakh? yes

[viscid swift]

why would you need Nahkimov to stop enemies when you have Implacable to stop enemies...

[wispy pendant]

the nyak skill wants a slow from another np

[atomic abyss]

Enemies with a SPD-decreasing debuff inflicted by another Northern Parliament ship's skill in your fleet gain the Enfeebled debuff; when an enemy with the Enfeebled debuff is inflicted with the Crashed status, their SPD is set to 0 for 2.5s.

Increases this ship's Crit DMG against enemies with the Enfeebled debuff by 20% (40%).

that is the argument for actually using an NP slower

[crimson glacier]

thats ok buff i guess, nothing massive

[atomic abyss]

as opposed to impla

[wispy pendant]

40% sounds like a lot?

[crimson glacier]

less than 40% effectively

[atomic abyss]

sim calcs show non NP slower comps doing less so

until we actually test, hard to say the argument for either

[crimson glacier]

26% more dmg and you need a crit

[inland shoal]

It's a max of 27% (40/150 with 100% crit chance)

[crimson glacier]

what crit rate does the cat have

[inland shoal]

Depends, usual crit rates are around 10%? And she's DR so 0 luck but idrc if that rly made much of a diff for crit chance

[hollow gust]

simulations

[atomic abyss]

personally i feel like the argument could go either way

as someone without impla, i'll take it though

...not that I have chkalov either

[shell willow]

[atomic abyss]

so i'll likely use soyuz with her

[hollow gust]

breaking your bbs fleets

[crimson glacier]

with 10% crit rate it would be 2.7% more dmg, sounds pathetic

[atomic abyss]

i never said anything about it being opsi

[eager mulch]

nyak w15 support fleet

[keen sable]

looks like nakhi crits around 30%

[cobalt rapids]

i dont see anything wrong with it being opsi

[atomic abyss]

im more interested in nakh for campaign since i am forced to use soyuz and alsace to push instead of musashi

[eager mulch]

with Percy

[cobalt rapids]

in campaign u wanna desync stuff either way

[cobalt rapids]

kear broke cv fleets, why wouldnt nahki break bb fleets

[sweet delta]

I don't see anything wrong with what Umi no neko says

[crimson glacier]

i doubt she is anything amazing for campaign

[eager mulch]

i don’t see anything wrong with what sushigummy says about what umi no neko says

[viscid swift]

I see that no one has Nahkimov at dev 30 yet so all of this is just conjecture

[atomic abyss]

exactly

[hollow gust]

~~simulations show nahk with slow being better tho ~~

[eager mulch]

who’s next ur to be rerun

[viscid swift]

Musashi

[eternal basalt]

Musashi

[shell willow]

musashi

[eager mulch]

second 460 +3rd 460 from Yamato event

[soft raft]

Once we have 3 460s, it'll be viable, trust

[eager mulch]

it’s viable now you just don’t believe enough

[sweet delta]

Simulations with shit gear setups are the best sources of truth

[dim summit]

are cog chips farmable i've dropped like 10k since pr7 and i havent had to pay attention to them til now

[eager mulch]

farmable from campaign maps 12+

[eternal basalt]

Yes, but reaally low amounts

[cobalt rapids]

to a small degree they drop from campaign but thats not the main income

w12+ where higher worlds is 📈 and -1 stages are best for oil

[glass quest]

is it an issue if I don‘t have 2 UR CA Guns for Hindenburg after max dev? What else can I use? preferably AP

[hollow gust]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[sweet delta]

Why prefer AP?

The three UR CA guns are almost always better than the best gold CA guns on Hindenburg even if the ammo is not ideal

[glass quest]

only got the Triple 234mm so far

[eager mulch]

proto twin 234mm

[pale mason]

what gear should i be prioritizing with t3 ordnance?

[haughty dust]

Are there any gold sup torps worth crafting in gear lab?

[eager mulch]

bidders

[haughty dust]

which ones are those?

[forest palm]

British red tips

[pale mason]

anyone, what should i prioritize using these on?

[cobalt rapids]

2 457 > rest

[haughty dust]

ok well if I was not saving up HBX Blend Gunpowder for UR 100mm Type 98 Kai High Angle. Then I would craft one of those. Maybe after. Not sure which would take priority in your guys opinion. I am at 32 of 54 before I can craft one. Also at 8 of 9 UR Main Gun Design plans.

[cobalt rapids]

prio for what ? gunpowder should be a non issue
for UR blanks 2-3 wyverns + 1-2 mk7 before 100kai
for UR mg plans then also 1-2mk7 before

[haughty dust]

what gear from gear lab is priority. Give me just a moment. I am not sure if this will be too big of a file for Discord or not.

[cobalt rapids]

i just said

[pale mason]

oh i guess that's not happening for a while since all of these are reserved for making wyverns currently xd

[pale mason]

.. is the video just you going through every gear in the gear lab?

[haughty dust]

well you should be able to see which ones I can craft atm by the icons

[pale mason]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg
^ just use this for priorities

[haughty dust]

This is how the resources for crafting they’re currently going

[pale mason]

if it's not in the image then probably not worth crafting

[thorn tartan]

how do you know the armor of the guild boss battle?

[cobalt rapids]

/sirenstats

[pale mason]

check wiki idk if there's a way in game

[sweet delta]

/wiki guilds

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Guild_Shop
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Guild
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Guild_Events

Aug 8, 2024, 8:36 PM

[cobalt rapids]

but compiler is heavy and if the guild battle is not compiler then u should battle in another guild

[thorn tartan]

it says Ironbottom Maritime Defense Hard

[sweet delta]

it shows compiler

[thorn tartan]

ok, ty

[cobalt rapids]

this only has compiler for some reason

[sweet delta]

Maybe because of this

[pale mason]

would rainbow triple 234 be worth spending my t3 ordnance at all if i cant get the 457 anytime soon

[viscid swift]

no

[cobalt rapids]

uh no

[sweet delta]

nuh uh no

[pale mason]

by the time i can even craft 1 457 (enough electronics) i'll probably have enough t3 ordnance to craft 2 xd

[cobalt rapids]

getting 6 t3 ordnance will take much longer than 48 electronics

[pale mason]

really? even with t2 ordnance conversion?

or is there something i should be using t2 ordnance on that im missing

[left cedar]

9:1
gud luck getting that much of T2 ...

[sweet delta]

About how many electronics do you get per month

[viscid swift]

to get 9 T3 Ordinance reports you're looking at tying up 3 months worth of T2 and T3 ordinances

[pale mason]

yeah but im like always out of electronics
and never using t2 t3 ordnance

[sweet delta]

There is Flapjack that uses T2 ordn

[pale mason]

already got 3 flapjacks

i'd estimate i get like 40 electronics per month but im not too sure tbh
t3 ordnance i get like 3-4 per month if i convert i think?

[cobalt rapids]

i havent been keeping track but mby around 40+(?)ish per month

[pale mason]

unless there's something else to be using t2 ordnance on besides flapjacks i think i'll just convert them all to t3 and also go for a triple 234 first since im focusing on wyverns rn with my electronics

[sweet delta]

Was opsi December 2020 or 2021 👴

[atomic abyss]

2020

[sweet delta]

100+ electronics per month

[viscid swift]

a pair of 155 Kais for W14

[sweet delta]

[pale mason]

these? i have 1 currently, i'll reserve 6 t2 ordnance for another one ig but rest go towards t3 then

[pale mason]

i wish

[cobalt rapids]

if u rly want that twipple ig its fine but consider we might get other gearlab t3 ordnance prios over time

crafting gear just for the sake of it isnt rly worth

what benefits would that triple 234 even give u? who would u use it on ? does the user get big benefit ? does the content ure doing rn require extra ca mg dmg oomph ?

[sweet delta]

And whatever Mk4 you need for 457

[pale mason]

my main reason for playing the game is to make whatever ships i have, the best i can make them and strenghtening my fleet over time
i haven't had upgrades in gear in so long so i just want something to craft
if an upgrade is being locked by another material (electronics) for a long time i dont see much issue in using the t3 ordnances on something else

[viscid swift]

bear in mind if you don't have the Proto Twin 234mm that's an additonal 10 T2 Ordinnace reports needed to craft a Triple

[pale mason]

yup
it's not gonna be an immediate thing like i can craft the triple right now, but i just want a shorter term goal than 'oh i need to wait like half a year to get enough electronics to craft a 457'

[cobalt rapids]

why would u need half an ear for that

[pale mason]

because i need all the other gear first that needs electronics?

[cobalt rapids]

which is ?

[pale mason]

wyverns x2, a lot of other planes need them, most R gear worth crafting uses them

unless you're saying a 457 is more worth it to prioritize over wyverns and other things when i have 3 champys i can use currently

[cobalt rapids]

no im not saying that

[pale mason]

yeah so i was trying to see if there's something more immediate i can use my t3 ordnance on that doesn't require any (or little) electronics

[cobalt rapids]

but it didnt take me half a year to craft 2 wyverns 3 tigers and 3 junkers so electronics income is definetly higher

[viscid swift]

yeah, I think you're overestimating how long it will take you to get electronics and if it does take you that long you're doing something wrong straight up

[sweet delta]

Umi knows as a new player

[pale mason]

idk im estimating 40 electronics per month

[viscid swift]

also AL is not really a game where you want to invest in stop gaps/half measures especially ones which use valuable resources like T3 ordinance reports

[sweet delta]

You are severely underestimating, or are you just not doing dailies and AP dump?

[pale mason]

which i guess after 3 months i should be done with everything else
but by 3 months is over i should have enough t3 ordnance to craft 2 457s if i convert t2s

or am i overestimating t2/t3 ordnance income
idfk

[sweet delta]

If I only consider the electronics in my depot and not the thousands I've spent on gear, then I got 57 electronics per month. And that also included a year before depths and arbiter

[pale mason]

ok if it's 60 electronics a month then maybe 457 is achievable within 3 months
idk if my inability to do harbiter factors into the income or not, i forgor the rewards

[cobalt rapids]

• u get selectors on top which usually also go to electronics

[sweet delta]

Selectors exist?

[pale mason]

i randomly get 10 selectors sometimes but i dont know where i get them from lol

[viscid swift]

Arbiter

[pale mason]

does harbiter give selectors too?

[left cedar]

end game strange things ... i got a problems with explosives and wires

[viscid swift]

yes

[pale mason]

fk i need to build up my 3rd and 4th fleets to do harbiter then

i need musashi to come soon, missing some good backline still

[sweet delta]

I have 480 selectors so that bumps up to 68

[pale mason]

you see i only started doing opsi like 2 months ago so i have had like 20 selectors

[thorn tartan]

do you start to make a campaign zone safer once you clear it or once you 3 star it?

[forest palm]

when the zone is safe is the easiest

[cobalt rapids]

the former is easier

[eternal basalt]

Every combat after clearing

[thorn tartan]

i'm saying when does successive sorties make it safer, after clear or 3 star?

[atomic abyss]

clear aka 100%