#gameplay-help

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hollow gust
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also why you getting daisen as a newbie

hidden garnet
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Grinding for Daisen's data II

whole crypt
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Daisen is a BB it's main fleet XP all the way

soft raft
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Yuubari wont help boost Daisen's CDC at all
she's a vanguard ship and her skill only works on vanguard cruisers

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only the CBs have vanguard XP requirements for CDC 2

whole crypt
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also like grey said Daisen is probably useless to you at this point

hidden garnet
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Mine ongoing research is Daisen. I wanna looking for ship like Houshou for EXP

eager mulch
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you can get houshou in 15-3 like what I did nyakimovapprove

hidden garnet
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Dang I got her so long time which I forgot

uncut oar
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You still haven't answered why exactly you're going for daisen

timid beacon
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What skill should I max first for laffey?

hidden garnet
whole crypt
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Houshou herself is also kind of useless, you might want to just level decent ships over worrying about XP bonus

wind hazel
eager mulch
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houshou rld tech right?

whole crypt
eager mulch
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main fleet rld tech is like hard drugs to me

whole crypt
wind hazel
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doesn't matter, +1rld

whole crypt
wind hazel
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yeah?

whole crypt
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you're just wasting XP on her after that

wind hazel
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who's debating about that

whole crypt
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you said doesn't matter, +1rld, but Houshou has nothing additional to add after that

wind hazel
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but also gph: max RLD

whole crypt
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yes but after she's 120 she doesn't give you more rld?

wind hazel
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there's absolutely nothing wrong with raising houshou, idk why you are so against that idea. it's only worse if you have backline that needs leveling like Shinano or something, but you have zero information about that, yet so adamant against raising a good tech ship

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so tell me, why are you so against raising a rld cv ship?

stark quiver
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only 120 gives rld tech

wind hazel
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yes nobody is debating that, again

hidden garnet
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Relax

whole crypt
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I'm saying don't continue using after 120 or be overfocused on her XP bonus

atomic abyss
wind hazel
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is his houshou lv120?

hidden garnet
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Not yet

wind hazel
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see? what a stupid discussion

hidden garnet
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My Houshou 105+ something mob in 12-4 grinding

eager mulch
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that’s perfectly fine

polar lion
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How many proto vit 2 do I want?

eager mulch
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as many as you want

silk sphinx
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That’s a pr5 gear yeah? You’ll have enough of it naturally after getting a Plymouth gun or two

polar lion
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No the new PR7 TB proto vit 2 mode change

whole crypt
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pr7 has a new vit2

silk sphinx
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Oh that one

whole crypt
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it's kind of sidegrade again to the current converging TBs

brisk shard
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how many ship i need to sink in daily challenge to get S?

viscid swift
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the sub raid? at minimum 2 merchant ships plus the bosses

brisk shard
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the gold ships?

viscid swift
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yes

polar lion
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Dang, all these new planes to +13 and I thot I had a good bunch of plane gold plates ady to cover for such expenses

viscid swift
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each La-9 is gonna take a few months

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and you may not even end up using any of the new Vit-2s in scenarios to warrant +13ing them

silk sphinx
tired condor
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is this the best secondary for alsace

silk sphinx
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You don’t have to plus13 it if you don’t feel like it current options are fine

viscid swift
sweet delta
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With the snail la-9 appearing, I doubt the snail vit2 will see much use

whole crypt
tired condor
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which gun is then

whole crypt
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but you tend to want faster than slower so WarShrug

viscid swift
tired condor
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gear lab?

viscid swift
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This is what you'll use for most of the game

atomic abyss
tired condor
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pr5 is the only research i ever do

atomic abyss
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Wat

silk sphinx
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You should complete pr4 and eventually move on to pr7

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Pr6 admittedly isn’t as high a priority

atomic abyss
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I mean if you have 2 Tenrais, Anchorage, Agir, Hakuryuu and AvP, sure

polar lion
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Aight guess I'll just ignore the vit2 for now

silk sphinx
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I’m mostly skipping the new vit2 tbh

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Need to save my gold plates for the la2, and already have many other tbs plus13 already

tired condor
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is avp even worth getting

viscid swift
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if you don't have Implacable absolutely

silk sphinx
whole crypt
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well vit2mc might be a thing to slow Implacable down for sync with whoever carries the La-9 when we get there

silk sphinx
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Huh good point

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Just get one for implac too lmao

polar lion
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Yea ill craft when I see the need arise or maybe double La9 will slow her enuf ady

atomic abyss
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I'd argue she's still worth even if you have impla, just not as worth

tired condor
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get haku or avp first

atomic abyss
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AvP because you can coin her to d30
Hakuryuu you're relying on research to get the BPs

whole crypt
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but that's theorycrafting and we'll need to wait till La-9s start rolling out, there's also the chance that Implacble gets benched when cats hit 30

tired condor
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haku or shinano better?

silk sphinx
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Do people here really just call her cats? That’s a rly confusing name if I’d heard one

viscid swift
silk sphinx
tired condor
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so 1 bb and 2 cvs?

whole crypt
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easier to type cat than nakimov on the phone

viscid swift
silk sphinx
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Nyak works

whole crypt
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I don't work with that ShiSleep

sweet delta
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I don't work with cats or dogs ShiSleep

slow fox
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woof

viscid swift
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meow

eager mulch
stark quiver
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why is time fuze bad, never knew the reason

sweet delta
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Cost more for no gain

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And lose hit for fp

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People really like to say they're shit but I've seen no proof that 134 fuze is worse than 134

ebon oxide
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After I buy the oil, what do I go for next?

stark quiver
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what do u need

silk sphinx
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Early game huh. I always buy out chips but if you’re not farming as much that’s fine

ebon oxide
silk sphinx
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Obviously buy the new ship if you didn’t pick her up through farming or build already

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That’s 8k though

ebon oxide
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I bought the DD, some oil, all cog arrays, and some T3 parts

stark quiver
silk sphinx
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Only if you need them

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By mid game you cease actually needing to buy them

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Or maybe early endgame ig

ebon oxide
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I’m at cmdr lvl 50, is mid game when you unlock opsi at lvl 60?

silk sphinx
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Nobody has any set definitions for mid game tbh

sweet delta
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Chapter 12

silk sphinx
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I’d probably consider reaching w12 and being able to farm it mid game yeah

sweet delta
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Many people have set definitions, but there's no consensus ~~because it's a useless measure anyways ~~

ebon oxide
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I see I see

vale spindle
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you can whale immediately to commander level 60 anyways BuckyPrideZoom doesn't make you mid game

elfin hollow
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What ship is the best missile destroyer ship

whole crypt
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I'd say midgame is when you reach ch9 and start planning out grinds with oilcap

sweet delta
ebon oxide
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Then I’ll buy the American tech boxes and main gun plates

elfin hollow
vale spindle
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chang chun has a faction buff and the others don't

whole crypt
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if used alone An Shan should be better

silk sphinx
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I think it’s either chang chun or tai yuan yeah?

vale spindle
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should be tai yuan in a full fleet

sweet delta
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CC when buffing enough ships, TY when full fleet and not need armor break, AS everywhere else

whole crypt
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FS when

timid beacon
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Any way to get core data faster HimekoDead

silk sphinx
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Farm higher worlds

stark quiver
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farm 13h

whole crypt
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do HM on higher chapter so keep pushing progression

timid beacon
silk sphinx
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It’s a tiny upgrade tbh

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Don’t overly stress about it w13h is quite hard

timid beacon
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Maybe I can get to world 6 idk depends but for now I am shredding the campaigne

silk sphinx
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Oh welp you’re early game. Plenty of space to grow

sweet delta
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"New to game Day 5"

timid beacon
hidden garnet
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Hard mode slow but sure

timid beacon
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It’s only been 5 days Uncanny

silk sphinx
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Hope you have fun then.

timid beacon
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Yes I like the game I’m just hoping I can get a better ship than Pennsylvania

silk sphinx
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You’ll get there eventually. Hope you read the starter guide at least

timid beacon
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I did

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Thanks for the help (goes for uniquename also)

silk sphinx
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Happy to have you here in any case. There should be a new event soon, stay tuned for whether it’ll have any good ships

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EN server anniversary has goodies

timid beacon
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Yeah saving my cubes

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Got like 80 for now would have more but had some impulse pulling issues

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I came from fgo then dropped the game lmao played for a year and everything went to shet so I gave this game a shot

silk sphinx
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Well I’ve played a number of games and this is the most generous by far so

elfin hollow
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What proyotype blueprints should i get (I got iris orthodoxy bb gun)

viscid swift
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have you got the Soyuz gun

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if not you want 3 Champaign guns

elfin hollow
silk sphinx
viscid swift
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2 Champaign guns then

elfin hollow
viscid swift
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after that start getting prints for the Tenrai

elfin hollow
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I got two tenrai

silk sphinx
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Monetization is through selling skins, so I have around 99% collection despite not buying a single cube through cash/gem options

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Dupes are also completely unnecessary

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I find it a much less stressful game without any fomo as long as you have time to grind

viscid swift
viscid swift
timid beacon
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Wow

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I hope I can be as good as yall some day

silk sphinx
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What cheeky means is that he has basically 100% collection minus the newest ships that have to be grinded, and he’s 100% f2p

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Also has all the best ships fully built

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Basically, paying money isn’t really going to be a barrier for anyone in the game

viscid swift
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nah, just showing how much dock space I have

stark quiver
lyric stump
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anyone know how to redeem bilibili vip code?

sweet delta
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This is EN discord

stark quiver
timid beacon
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Oh my bad

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This design good?

sweet delta
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Don't rely on designs to drop from maps

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And this is mid

left cedar
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kinda, till u farm 1 single gun probally u already get few boxs and get one full copy from that boxes

plain saffron
lyric stump
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idk my friend got it for me but am on na

plain saffron
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Cn and global are under different publisher so i doubt it can be used in global server

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Cn under bilibili global under yostar en

lyric stump
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said server in maintenance

lyric stump
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cause its from bilibili

plain saffron
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Hmm looks like that link doesn't have cn bilibili servers

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So only from Android ingame or they have their own website

lyric stump
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ya tried it said no url

plain saffron
lyric stump
plain saffron
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Cn and jp have it, en doesn't

lyric stump
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sad

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u have the cn server tho?

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the cn link cause i can choose na server in the jp link

plain saffron
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It shows only 4 server so probably the other cn server not bilibili one

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Idk why there's multiple versions for cn

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One under bilibili one under something else

lyric stump
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ig

sweet merlin
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Eta on the next ur event?

eager mulch
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yes

plain saffron
blissful hamlet
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There's probability in en anni MutsukiHyperStare

agile sky
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which stage do yall farm daily for core-data? Like i know higher chpt gives more per run but is there a point where the difficulty isnt worth the slight increase?

plain saffron
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It's easy enough with max lvl ships and safe threat lvl so 13

blissful hamlet
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if you don't need any retrofit material then choose any

plain saffron
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Might need manual when not safe threat lvl

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Though after a while you have excess so 12 is enough i guess

agile sky
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assuming i got every ship and they're all at max or near max lvl, is there a boss fleet thats solid for brain-ded auto 13-4? That's the hard chpt i got unlocked and i can auto run the stage but it fails every so often...

Id drop my fleet but im at work rn and i doubt my connection can send pics anyways so just trynna cobble something quick before daily reset.

blissful hamlet
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just do 13-1 if you want easy win ShiSleep

smoky palm
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Which CL should I prioritize working on first / getting to lvl 120 first... Chapy or Emden?

agile sky
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that one isnt on safe threat lvl yet ToT

smoky palm
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Ofc I plan to get both to 120 and build both

smoky palm
smoky palm
viscid swift
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well get Sirius leveled for one

keen sable
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jda for another

smoky palm
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was thinking of building chapy for my Northern P team, and Emden for my IB team / solo vanguard purposes

stark quiver
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nuh uh

remote yarrow
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Faction fleets are bad and I doubt you got enough resources to spare to build them UniSip

smoky palm
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just want something to replace and stop using my lvl 120 phoenix with EssexWheeze

plain saffron
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Emden prob a better buffer than chapy if i have to choose

smoky palm
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only thing she's useful for is her zombie skill..

remote yarrow
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Just focus on Sirius that actually will be helpful later on

plain saffron
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At least kms have a working opsi boss fleet

keen sable
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biloxi good +1 FP

smoky palm
plain saffron
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Step 1, have all the good ships of that faction

remote yarrow
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Mainly SR Bulins

plain saffron
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Based on your dock, probably better to focus on progressing still

smoky palm
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and I can buy more with my merit points

remote yarrow
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Wotspite Why did you get Nakhimov

plain saffron
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Why not

smoky palm
remote yarrow
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I mean they started in January, I don't think they've finished both PR4 and PR5 yet, so focusing in PR7 may not be a good idea WarShrug

plain saffron
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But building and research is separate

remote yarrow
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Well 4/6 means he's focusing PR7

smoky palm
plain saffron
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Anyway we can only advice, up to them to minmax or have fun

remote yarrow
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Or probably not idk ShiWoke

plain saffron
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Tbh even though you want to make faction fleet I don't see much ships of that faction

smoky palm
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I also have Dev level 23 Kearsarge and my Nakhimov is already dev 15

plain saffron
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Please focus on 1 season at a time

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Keep changing and you have 0 usable ships

finite crag
viscid swift
plain saffron
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Both

smoky palm
plain saffron
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Or maybe because you sort by cl

remote yarrow
smoky palm
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its the first PR season that released since I started..

remote yarrow
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Like, all of them

smoky palm
plain saffron
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Better to finish 4 first but up to you i guess

smoky palm
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I plan to go back to PR4 after doing 7

viscid swift
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I swear I've explained all this before

remote yarrow
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Have fun with 2 usable ships instead of 4 from PR4 ShiWoke

plain saffron
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I guess it's because waifu. As long as you enjoy game

viscid swift
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but just to reiterate, 4 is higher priority than 7 still

sweet delta
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by the time youre done with 7, 4 will have been retired WarPat

keen sable
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that's a big brain move

plain saffron
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Actually isn't 4 coinable

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Build 4 and coins while do 7 is an option

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At least both is progressing

smoky palm
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also whats the most common way of finding these?

viscid swift
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the PRs are, DRs aren't

plain saffron
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Yes but still something

smoky palm
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since if I wanted to make the UR AA gun I dont have any of these..

remote yarrow
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Well in any case, stop switching season focus and either go back to PR4 and finish it in 2~3 months or wait 4 months for PR4 to get retired ShiWoke

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And why would you need the UR AA gun

plain saffron
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Because i doubt he'll change, so something better than nothing

smoky palm
soft raft
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the PR4 PRs have been coinable for quite a while now
unless you meant the DRs

plain saffron
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By the time dr4 is coinable you probably already done 7

viscid swift
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that's still a good 6 months off bear in mind

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and a lot of the PR4 gear is still very relevant to this day

finite crag
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youre talking to a brick wall

plain saffron
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If you really² refuse to change i guess
Continue 7 until done
While coin pr4
Then prob research other season bcs by that time dr4 already coinable

But you still gonna miss pr4 gears

remote yarrow
# smoky palm I mean the DR's

Each of the DRs will take you about 36 days each to coin + an extra 21 if you are gonna do Haku Fs5 , this is considering you also do the catchups + missing on good gear

plain saffron
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I'm guessing it's because waifu
If that's how they want to enjoy the game just let it be, we can only advice
Not everyone care that much minmaxing, so just max as much as can

smoky palm
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but again.. anyone know how often these show up in the General or Merit Shop?

viscid swift
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It's RNG

smoky palm
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Dont really wanna gamba 15 medals just to try and get the AA gun..

remote yarrow
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Then again what do you need it for

finite crag
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even if you knew how often it showed up it still wont change anything

viscid swift
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Worst case you get 20 guaranteed from the medal shop

soft raft
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you could alternatively protocore its direct predecessor AA gun

smoky palm
viscid swift
remote yarrow
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And what do you need the UR AA for, it's not really needed in most cases, you are better off crafting other UR gear first

frank pulsar
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^^ its only "needed" in w15 anyway

sweet delta
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medals are an issue for me, am i still a new player? LilEnty

wind hazel
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yes

viscid swift
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Yes

wind hazel
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rejoin discord for green leaf for authentic new player experience

smoky palm
finite crag
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well worry about it once you do have the plans

viscid swift
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That will take a few months on average to get 9 AA gun prints from drops alone

remote yarrow
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But it's also like 80 Electronics for something you don't really need that much

finite crag
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even if you had enough design plans, its not like theyre going anywhere

smoky palm
eager mulch
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is this the guy who’d rather do pr7 than his dr4s?

finite crag
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1 print

soft raft
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yes

smoky palm
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and I have a ton of loggers to go through for this opsi season

finite crag
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a singular print youre good dw about it

lime raptor
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The Spearfish isn't worth making right? 👀

smoky palm
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only started doing opsi 2 seasons ago tho..

soft raft
finite crag
lime raptor
remote yarrow
finite crag
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exactly

eager mulch
viscid swift
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Russian Bias, Sky Cancer, etc

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All apt monikers for Nahkimov

remote yarrow
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Well in any case we told him why he should switch back to PR4 it's up to him if he wants to slow down his progression for waifu purposes ShiWoke

eager mulch
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I say send him to ectl gph

remote yarrow
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That's evil

eager mulch
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only if they keep acting like this

plain saffron
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Just let them do what they want, we just advice

eager mulch
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we led the 🐴 to 🌊

plain saffron
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If top 1 min max he doesn't want to do, then just advice what he will do

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Doesn't mean just outright stop helping then

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Like rn they want to do pr7, give advice based on that. Of course up to individual to help or not

agile sky
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nakhimov design goes hard though...understandable why someone might be led astray by her lmao

full leaf
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"5 Dorm slots, 2nd Floor, +90 Dock space" was recommended for gems, what do i prioritize first

remote yarrow
full leaf
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oh wud, was following the bot's gem guide

remote yarrow
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It's outdated

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Not the first bot command that's outdated or wrong UniSip

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Any further questions ask them in here

remote yarrow
full leaf
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yea read it all, am a returning player LongCryland

remote yarrow
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Returning player doesn't say much,it depends on what campaign stage you are at WarZoom

full leaf
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only just cleared w8 LongCryland

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trying to speedrun the campaign to w12 from advice from someone else here

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already have 31k from event

remote yarrow
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Yeah you are still "new" in terms of progression, would still use the recommended fleet that's in the guide

thorn tartan
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what should i be spending core on? I have tons of it

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i already have 4 of each shell

sinful escarp
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keep stockpiling and buying more shells each month

thorn tartan
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do you use the admiralty fire control with black or white shell?

forest palm
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depends, most times white, some cases to use black though

thorn tartan
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that's what the /coredata table says (use with white) but the tier list says to use with black..............

sweet delta
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i usually use afct with white or autoloader

echo vector
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Between Implaccable and Admiral Nakhimo which one is better for high level content ? They seems to work sort of similarly.

sweet delta
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tentatively, nakhi is definitely better if you can fit soyuz in the fleet, and implacable is much easier to use in any fleet

echo vector
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Oooh i see

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Thanks for the input

full leaf
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for w9 onwards, should i js focus on getting 100% first then use the oil cap for getting 3*s

little tree
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How hard are C5 Abysslas should i post my dock?

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Can a W13 boss fleet handle them fine

stark quiver
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yea

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u get 4 fleets also

little tree
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Will i need to worry about gear a whole lot or will tech box gear be just fione

stark quiver
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you can go to dock and swap gear after each fight witha fleet

little tree
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Oh bet

keen sable
little tree
keen sable
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bb's don't like it when their damage becomes 1

little tree
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For opsi I have 2 boss fleets what's the purpose for it

keen sable
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since it doesn't happen until 30% hp you use bb first.

crimson glacier
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if you are strong enough it doesnt matter what fleet you use

little tree
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Turns out I can not Do C5's can how long can i hold these corrdinats for ?

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For when i get them Next time

stark quiver
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cant leave

little tree
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I see

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Wait NVM i can regroup Im silly

keen sable
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is your adaptability still around 70-80?

copper ermine
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How sparing should I use my bulins? I have 8 yellow and 10 purple.

little tree
maiden jewel
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i can vow to multiple shipgirls right

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NICE

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THANKS!

jaunty vault
little tree
crimson glacier
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yes

maiden jewel
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is there a website that shows me ideal gear for shipgirls? im pretty new so ik it's not that important but i just want to know what i should look out for

stark quiver
odd rootBOT
jaunty vault
keen sable
maiden jewel
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thank you!!

little tree
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What do I need it to be for c5

keen sable
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117/117/90

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so you were doing about 20% less damage than you could have been

crimson glacier
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offense doesnt affect our dmg

little tree
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Oh wow

crimson glacier
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isnt it only enemy damage

keen sable
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hmm

crimson glacier
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offense makes enemy do less dmg, survi makes enemy have less hp

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thats why survi is most important since its effectively more dmg for us

keen sable
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yeah my bad. you were taking 20% more than you could have been

little tree
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Thats huge still my vanguards got folded

crimson glacier
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its kinda tiny imo, mods matter a ton more

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anyway you see these, when its at 70% you are at cap

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and 100% for right most

plain saffron
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60% diff between full adapt and low adapt kinda huge

crimson glacier
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its more than 60% effectively

drowsy hornet
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Does anyboy know where I can see like a list of what destroyers get what buff at max limit break (+30% stats from aux, decreased torp spread, or halved AoA shot requirement)?

crimson glacier
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on limit break tab but it takes ages

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id just go to wiki

crimson glacier
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its much easier to just go to the DDs own page

flint arrow
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So a friend told me these stats above 140 don't count is that true?

crimson glacier
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easier the zone the lower the cap is

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highest cap is on arbiter where you need around 200 for the max

flint arrow
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I see, is that visible in game somewhere?

crimson glacier
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like i just said, when these are at 70% 70% 100% you are at cap

lime lichen
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Any of the medal shop SR CA’s good?

vale spindle
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not especially

crimson glacier
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anyway why is perseus flag

flint arrow
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And yeah idk I guess she shouldn't be MutsukiHyperStare

crimson glacier
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when you go to abyssal or stronghold boss or whatever, without having fleet lock on

vale spindle
sweet delta
half skiff
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is there anything i should buy in elite guild shop other than another copy of unicorn?

flint arrow
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But they clear everything just fine so doesn't matter i suppose

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Thanks for the help

vale spindle
#

atago is "a meh ship; at best a sidegrade to more easily available options"

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the other 3 should be in the good but easily accessible sidegrades exist if my memory serves correctly

elfin hollow
#

Whos a good vanguard tank that can survive alone and not too expensive oil?
(Grinding for Daisen)

inner delta
#

start with just using full fleet

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you already using 3 backline anyway so just do 3 frontline

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dont waste the exp with oilcap on

elfin hollow
#

okay got it thank you

clever lance
#

What’s the first thing I should buy from core shop? Shells? Or independence?

atomic abyss
#

Shells for sure

#

3 pairs ideally

clever lance
#

Pairs as in one black and one white?

finite crag
#

yea

atomic abyss
#

Yes

clever lance
#

Is that the best to equip for hood?

atomic abyss
#

It's the best for all BBs lacking stuff like the rainbow control table from Vanguard's event

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So yes

clever lance
#

Uhh.. which color first? I only have 1400 😦

atomic abyss
#

White first if you can't buy both

clever lance
#

Thanks 🥹

civic crag
#

How to get t3 aux part fast

plain saffron
#

Permanent minigame you can buy coins x time per week right? Or is it per month

jaunty vault
#

should be weekly

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unless i did not understand your question

jaunty vault
crisp raven
plain saffron
#

Does the price increase?

crisp raven
#

the first 10 are discounted. 5 at 60% off and then 5 at 40% off. 2000 per token then until cap.

left wasp
#

So there are like the only 2 built-up fleets I have in-game
I have no idea how how to put more fleets together so here's my ship box and gear box

plain saffron
#

I see, so that's what the count for

jaunty vault
#

do you want to build fleets for a specific purpose?

left wasp
#

Just
general stuff just in case my mob fleet loses all motivation but I still have oil
and comps to use my URs more

#

So I guess more mob fleet comps to recommend I guess?
especially one with Uni Retro

jaunty vault
tiny gulch
#

hey guys people are done building Wichita meta now right? How does she perform?

#

I heard pre evals saying she does more than Drake though I guess that’s not exactly a high bar atp

atomic abyss
#

From what I remember

atomic abyss
#

The issue is, actually getting her HP thresholds to the point of performing that much damage, and keeping her at the thresholds

tiny gulch
#

I see

atomic abyss
#

The best you got are lusty/jda shields
But that's not particularly consistent

#

And that's also ignoring just how frail she is

rapid grail
#

Potential woman

hollow sail
urban spruce
#

What does SAP do?

civic crag
hollow sail
steady beacon
# urban spruce What does SAP do?

Among BB guns it has the highest theoretical damage potential versus medium armour
The issue with it lies in its worse spread (and hence worse physical accuracy unless you have spread reduction) and the fact that it is monomaniacally focused on medium (whereas, for example, the Champagne gun can be used against both medium and heavy, its damage is only slightly worse than that gun against medium, and it has much better projectile characteristics)

urban spruce
#

Thank you!

plain saffron
#

Notes out?

steady beacon
#

Oh, let me check...

#

Seemingly not yet

plain saffron
#

Hmm

iron meteor
#

is hood a part of this for howe's skill

frank pulsar
#

no

#

king george v class is king george v, duke of york, howe, anson (not in game) and prince of wales

whole crypt
#

Hood does count for the other HMS ships ShiSleep

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you don't need to use any KGVs with enough HMS

chilly birch
#

are the permanent URs available in the current event build pool? I was sure they were available in any event that wasn't a UR event but someones just pointed out to me that in the build info, there's no UR % chance listed

hollow sail
chilly birch
#

ahh okay I see how it works, thank you

whole crypt
#

but yes non-UR event pools will count for perm pity

jaunty vault
#

well any event would give more T3 plates than campaign

subtle tinsel
#

Helena or nelson for retro?

fluid brook
#

Nelson

subtle tinsel
#

And when is going to be next ultra rare baner?

crimson glacier
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

fluid brook
#

You will now in the next stream

frank pulsar
#

shld be in sept, but wait for official announcement

shell willow
#

not 100% that the en stream will reveal UR

plain saffron
#

If at stream at 10th august no UR then it'll be in September

wispy herald
frank pulsar
#

hull type is not the same as ship class

wispy herald
#

Well the more you know

frank pulsar
#

hood is from the admiral class, and the only one playable so far

wispy herald
#

Would this classify as a a decent mob fleet? I’ve tried my best lmao

plain saffron
#

Need a healer

wispy herald
#

Scratch that, it should be a boss fleet. I have

#

Uni in my main grinding fleet

plain saffron
#

What's highest stage you're at

wispy herald
plain saffron
#

I would try to keep 1 fleeting until 9-1

wispy herald
#

Oh fr?

atomic abyss
#

you'll run out of gold bulins

#

lol

plain saffron
#

Yes

wispy herald
#

Ah I see

#

That simplifies matters then

#

But if we disregard that, can that fleet sustain itself as a boss fleet?

shell willow
#

its probably fine until w12 if you just have enough levels and decent gear

atomic abyss
#

it's not bad, but it's not good either

#

looks like you just randomly threw high rarity stuff together

wispy herald
atomic abyss
#

queen elizabeth is pointless there - she buffs royal ships
and there's none there

wispy herald
#

Oh so that’s what it means

atomic abyss
#

richelieu is excellent, but only l'audaciex gets buffed by her

wispy herald
#

Yeah, I’m trying to see if I can get Jean Bart with pulls

atomic abyss
#

i'd focus on your core fleet first, and then consider team building for the second fleet later

#

don't - JB is bad anyways

#

and you shouldn't be doing pulls on perma banner anyways

wispy herald
atomic abyss
#

more like it's a waste of cubes

finite crag
#

she is perma but pulling perma banner expecting a specific ship is pure cope

wispy herald
#

Oh I only pull on event and light

atomic abyss
#

waste of cubes to pull perma is one thing
it's even bigger waste to pull for JB

finite crag
#

even more cope when that ship is complete and utter dogshit

wispy herald
#

Hard to tell when looking at base stats alone

atomic abyss
#

at least strasbourg would be a fair shout

#

honestly - we can worry about your second fleet later anyways

wispy herald
#

Let me send a pic of my main fleet

#

Would it be good if I replaced Alvitr with NJ?

atomic abyss
#

NJ won't be MLB so 🚮

wispy herald
#

Hm. Interesting.

atomic abyss
#

non mlb ships are trash essentially

wispy herald
#

I need five UR bulins to MLB her right?

atomic abyss
#

4

wispy herald
#

Oh I have four

atomic abyss
#

and even then, she's low priority

#

amongst the permanents, shinano is highest
and if you account for the fact we have a UR event coming in about a month or so

wispy herald
#

Okay okay, I see

#

Is the UR event a rerun or something new?

atomic abyss
#

we had a rerun last month, so new

polar lion
#

What happens if I retire URin?

crimson glacier
#

you get medals

polar lion
#

How many?

crimson glacier
#

was it like 40

tame jungle
#

30

polar lion
#

How many if I retire my dupe mlb Nano?

crimson glacier
#

30

polar lion
#

Ugh wasted 90 medals

wispy herald
polar lion
#

Oh wait das akshually 150 medals total coz 5 dupes

obtuse knoll
#

just MLB another Nano easy ShiWoke

whole crypt
#

there was no ambiguity in "don't raise dupes"

elfin hollow
#

How is the black VIT2 different from the white VIT2?

half skiff
#

wtf yall have too many URS?

#

thats crazy

elfin hollow
#

Git gud

half skiff
#

speaking how which, how many UR bulins we getting?

cobalt rapids
half skiff
#

like i know you cant get onz from shop, bur other than that?

elfin hollow
#

From event and cruise pass

half skiff
#

wow, and thats it?

cobalt rapids
half skiff
#

(all event or?)

cobalt rapids
#

only UR events and reruns have UR bulins as milestones

half skiff
#

makes sense

plain saffron
#

notes out?

sinful elk
#

Chat does buying the specialized core from the medal shop affect the cap?

plain saffron
#

u96 and long island augment, more permanent minigame, brem story

sinful elk
atomic abyss
#

u-96 aug sounds potentially important

plain saffron
#

next maint is major event, new the event hub thingy/event page, skins, packs

tame jungle
atomic abyss
sinful elk
#

So to grind ply the most effectively way is to spam x2 on 12-4 with these 3 right?

plain saffron
#

penny long uni newbie fleet Blessex

#

no need 2x

sinful escarp
#

do you have other hms ships than them?

plain saffron
#

it's already mlb and levelled, just use them

sinful escarp
#

well, if he has other mlb hms ships they may be better than those ones

sinful elk
hollow sail
plain saffron
#

kinda like
no 2x, 10 sortie, 100%, low morale
with 2x, 5 sortie, 100% also, low morale
it's just a time saver

thorny laurel
#

Is there a guide for w12?

sinful elk
plain saffron
#

so if you don't have time, use it

sinful elk
atomic abyss
hollow sail
atomic abyss
#

the 2nd best carrier buffer in the game

sinful elk
#

My goddamn dumbass left her in dock for 5 months

atomic abyss
#

unlike kazagumo, her buffs remain after death
so very strong for opsi/metas

strange sphinx
#

can anyone help me, how to auto skip this while farming?

atomic abyss
plain saffron
#

enable "reduce TB guidance" in setting

atomic abyss
#

well, certainly way better than charybdis

#

good if you have the bulins i suppose

sinful elk
atomic abyss
#

i cannot stress how bad charybdis is

hollow sail
#

good DD for world 14, you can use her

frank pulsar
#

jervis is one of those tank that good but easily replaceable

plain saffron
#

charybdis move in wheelchair so zwei can run

frank pulsar
#

kinda only particularly useful in w14 like what ren said

sinful elk
frank pulsar
plain saffron
#

no

velvet flicker
#

I am new and I have a question, what should I get from the event stores?

half skiff
#

guys, when the UR comeback happen, do they have the exact same banner as the 1st time?

sinful elk
#

Oh and about the reward with posts event thing i can post some screenshots of the game with the hastags and its done?

drifting pecan
#

ye, and don't forget to submit your post link in their offical form

half skiff
inner delta
#

yes, with ticket

drifting pecan
half skiff
sinful elk
thorny laurel
#

Can lecture hall upgrade be cancelled somehow cause I payed 30k coins to go from 9-10 for a 48h upgrade but it seems to have stopped after 24h and I’ve not got my coins back?

plain saffron
#

no cancel

thorny laurel
#

So a bug?

plain saffron
#

also upgrade only 2h

thorny laurel
plain saffron
#

huh wiki is wrong

#

try restart game

#

ouh nvm i thought upgrade to lvl12

#

anyway try restart

whole crypt
velvet flicker
thorny laurel
#

Restart just seemed to fix it and now says lvl10

whole crypt
#

so it completed but was desynced

thorny laurel
#

Oh ok it completed while I was in app but needs a restart to show?

whole crypt
#

it doesn't usually need a restart but the game desyncs for all sorts of random reasons

#

if anything feels weird with the game just restart first

thorny laurel
#

Ok thanks

abstract solar
#

Does raising a ship to 125 matter alot performance wise? It dosent give them that much stats

plain saffron
#

level advantage

finite crag
#

stats isnt the main draw its the level advantage

abstract solar
#

What is it

plain saffron
#

/wiki combat#level_advantage

odd rootBOT
#
Azur Lane Wiki

Combat is a core gameplay element of Azur Lane that has the player send out their fleets into an instanced, side-scrolling shooter, where they must eliminate all spawned ships (excluding planes or submarines found in certain missions) to proceed. Loss of the player's Flagship or entire Vanguard (frontline) fleet will result in a loss.
During a s...

atomic abyss
#

for each level you are over your opponent, you deal 2% more and take 2% less

plain saffron
#

fuck'

atomic abyss
#

and the opposite applies if you're under the level of your opponent

abstract solar
#

Seems simple enough

atomic abyss
#

this caps at 50%

abstract solar
#

You generally raise dps backline ships like bismark zwei to 125 instead of tanks like anchorage?

whole crypt
atomic abyss
#

no, you raise all the ships attempting high level content to 125

frank pulsar
atomic abyss
#

tanks included, because more levels means they take less damage

abstract solar
#

I see

plain saffron
#

it still matters outside it because more dmg is still more dmg

jaunty vault
#

nagami

plain saffron
#

it does give performance

frank pulsar
#

yea but it not necessary most of the time

jaunty vault
#

what does your name mean

plain saffron
#

unless the question is, does they need 125, then no

atomic abyss
#

something vtuber related

#

not gph related

jaunty vault
#

simp

plain saffron
atomic abyss
#

was it not obvious with that pfp

jaunty vault
half skiff
#

whats shelling dmg guys?

atomic abyss
#

gun damage

plain saffron
#

any dmg that scale of FP stats, mostly guns

half skiff
#

oh

jovial cosmos
#

First UR exchange, who to get? Or do i wait? Thinkpitz

plain saffron
#

shinano

#

for limit break probably wait until you have enough(4 dupes/ur bulin)

jovial cosmos
atomic abyss
#

shinano without question

half plover
#

shinano seems so good ngl

#

did anyone try out leveling 3 BBs at 12-1 yet?

finite crag
#

im sure in the years this game has been out someone has

half plover
#

tbh I am not sure if I should grind 12-1 for 3 BBs or maybe wait until I can do 13-1

atomic abyss
inner delta
#

yeah 3 bb is fine

undone plover
#

also depends on the rest of the team
gear
crossfleet
and which BB
I am sure 3 UR BB are fine in ch 12 BuckyPrideZoom

half plover
atomic abyss
#

80 or 90+ with AA radars i'd say unless you're using sandy in the front

half plover
inner delta
#

you don't need aa radar

#

nor sandy

#

just don't use grief equipment and you fine

#

syd, bama, thuringen will be fairly easy

half plover
#

yeah I ran dry with cvs

#

I got some semi good ones like bearn meta or long island (retro) ready

undone plover
half plover
#

ty

inner delta
#

just don't full clear with mob and it's easy

undone plover
#

also not sure about 12-1 specifically but in 12-4 sometimes i like to run fire extinguisher on the flag BB since BB nodes can kill your run with a lucky shot but idk if anyone else does this ShiSleep

inner delta
#

but with those backline it's prolly fine with full clear

half plover
#

sounds better than I would have expected

#

I thought 3 bbs would be a horrible idea

inner delta
#

when you ran out of cvs to lv you will do 3 bb fleet

atomic abyss
#

it's w12, not w13 so you're fine

undone plover
#

tbh u should try and mix CV and BB together
it is less of a hassle but if u have no options fair enough

inner delta
#

ya unless you are like me have 0 cv to lv do mix

half plover
#

hahaha

full leaf
#

for w9 onwards, should i get the "defeat all enemies" star after clearing the node or during

frank pulsar
#

thats up to personal preference, as long as you get the 3* in the end it doesnt matter

#

but uh, i dont recommend trying to complete that requirement while clearing in w14 and w15, the difficulty skyrockets there for this requirement

full leaf
#

oh i thought there would be like a massive oil difference if i did it before and after clearing mode

keen sable
keen sable
full leaf
frank pulsar
#

its easier to do it after you clear, especially if you bring the map down to safe before doing so

polar lion
#

What happens when I hab 203/203/156 adapts?

frank pulsar
#

opsi becomes easy

ember swan
#

chatters is there any guide or resources on team building Think

worldly pewter
frank pulsar
ember swan
#

NODDERS thank you chatter

frank pulsar
#

soup is soupin

forest palm
lilac jacinth
#

Worth +13 Vit 2?

forest palm
#

it's a side grade to the major 3 Converging TB, so for the purpose of timing you certainly could +13 a VIT-2 Mod if you have other +13 prio taken care of NurnNom

forest palm
#

should be fine to NurnNom

lilac jacinth
#

Thx

#

Left is converge, right is parallel right?

#

Okok thx guys

undone plover
#

might be better to save plates for the La-9 JeanSip unless u have a lot and dont care

lilac jacinth
#

Still have lot more time, should be fine

forest palm
#

we still need to figure out the La-9 on a practical level, and where it'll fit in terms of use case ShiWoke

#

so there's no rush to exactly +13 a La-9 ShiSleep

lilac jacinth
#

Dont La-9 drop that homing bombs like one of the cat's skill?

plain saffron
#

not homing, it's rockets, more like converging torps but faster

#

homing is actively turning towards to target like torp subs

lilac jacinth
#

Whats the mod? More dmg to Meds?

keen sable
#

the totally misnamed mag torps

frank pulsar
lilac jacinth
#

Sounds good, we finally getting rockets for heavy

forest palm
#

Focket exists...

lilac jacinth
#

Focket?

frank pulsar
#

we already had rockets for heavy, just that the increase isnt great

keen sable
#

focket

forest palm
#

Fock Wolf A6 has rockets for anti-heavy

spice phoenix
#

is crafting this in gear lab even worth or should i just use prints?

frank pulsar
#

imho just prints

lilac jacinth
#

How about spearfish? Is it good?

forest palm
#

just a Wyvern sidegrade

lilac jacinth
#

So good mobbing, terrible st?

forest palm
#

as with all parallel bombers, yes

lilac jacinth
#

Thought i could rely on its rocket too

crimson glacier
#

what

#

the blueprints for the gear in the pic?

half plover
#

ah, I thought they are from the protoshop blueprints but it seems it is a stage drop

forest palm
crimson glacier
#

you can get the prints from protoshop too tho

half plover
#

ah, so this is generally better than golden bofor?

#

I should craft it then lmao

crimson glacier
#

its for BBs

keen sable
#

there's no staag in protocore

crimson glacier
#

they removed pr1 prints?

lilac jacinth
forest palm
#

sounds like a waste of resources tbh

lilac jacinth
#

Aight, saving them then

keen sable
#

it's considered universal like rudder so it doesn't belong anywhere

eternal basalt
#

・Holding of the Urayama Campaign
What's this???

crimson glacier
#

huh i see

plain saffron
#

i didn't see anything like that

forest palm
#

JP notes are a thing

plain saffron
#

no i mean i didn't see urayama campaign. i know jp notes are a thing i sent it here when it's out DunktsukiStare

half plover
#

guys I cant find this anymore in the crafting section

plain saffron
#

probably because you have 0 prints for that gun

half plover
#

ah

keen sable
#

it's not something you tend to accumulate if new

half plover
#

I thought I had like 22 / x

plain saffron
#

try using the filter

plain saffron
half plover
#

yeah I already got it once, is building a second one still good?

plain saffron
#

you want 3

half plover
#

alr ty

silk sphinx
half plover
#

so 2 is enough?

silk sphinx
#

If what I said holds true, then yes

keen sable
#

flandre

keen sable
# half plover so 2 is enough?

why don't you make what you need instead? especially if you truly are at 22/25. i imagine you aren't dumping protocore into sr gear anymore

half plover
#

tbh I skipped gear completely

#

I got the good gear from techboxes, crafted 1 of this bb gun, got wyvern, junkers, flapjack and that's all

#

so idk what I really need UniSip

keen sable
#

back up, do you have 22 designs already or not?

silk sphinx
#

Do you have the SR BB gun from Soyuz’s event?

keen sable
#

do you have a naked ship? then you need something

half plover
#

that's why I didnt see them

#

no comment

#

I think I also crafted this "best CL" gun

#

but it will take some time to get used to gear and which ship wants which on which type of content 😭

#

is this gear for alsace alright or does it also matter on the content?

cobalt rapids
#

always matters on content unless its easy content then dont fix what isnt broken

half plover
#

the second triple 406 goes to FdG?

#

🥲

cobalt rapids
#

goes to whoever ure using and w.e ure fighting against

#

triple 406 is alot of bb guns so that doesnt narrow it down

half plover
#

yeah I got all my good gear on opsi ships so my leveling only have the restover gear

#

the prototype one, first gun from alsace

cobalt rapids
#

i have my best gear on my lvling ships

half plover
#

that might be smart

keen sable
#

i have my best gear on meta killers WarShrug

half plover
#

I struggle so hard with meta ships, I get like 18-20% on wichita and just saw someone dealing like 70% of total hp in one assist try 😭

cobalt rapids
#

luckily u dont have to deal dmg in meta showdown at all to get most rewards

half plover
#

but I already messed up and can't get her mlb, I just got one copy by now

cobalt rapids
#

still got like 1 month left

half plover
#

how many points are possible tho?

#

the assist rewards depend on damage dealt, right?

keen sable
#

30k if you have 1 already

#

there's a floor

half plover
#

thanks, I will try to do it daily from now on

keen sable
half plover
#

yeah

polar lion
#

How to open secrets shop?

tame jungle
#

if you're talking about the tickets it's shop > items > secrets ticket near the bottom

polar lion
#

Dang, I always forgor dat smol button there akshually do something

#

Did the Sirius ASMR not added yet or I missed it?

plain saffron
#

actual full asmr are not ingame, you need to buy from dlsite or something similar

#

idk which one you referring to specifically but i assume the one year ago? apparently there's also 1 this year?

wet badge
#

How tf do i level my ships quick im at 9-1 and my ships are level 85 ish

plain saffron
#

farm more BuckyPrideZoom

#

farm full fleet at highest stage you can

atomic abyss
#

farm 9-1 more like

plain saffron
#

well 9-1 is highest(for them) so it check out

polar lion
#

Hmm, I thot I saw a post somewhere that there's a new Sirius ASMR not too long ago

wind hazel
#

you saw wrong

soft raft
#

that was prob a post related to 3D dorm

plain saffron
#

apartment

#

i lied
"Private Quarters"

magic vault
#

donknow how to feel about this cat lmao

plain saffron
#

that was a confused cat

magic vault
#

ikr XD

fading chasm
#

Need some advice on Fleet Building I'm definitely a noob and have no clue in what I'm doing if anyone can give me advice on what Ships to use in my fleets id deeply appreciate it thank you.
Also if anyone can give me advice in what Ships to be on the look put for id also appreciate that thank you

magic vault
#

jesus

forest palm
atomic abyss
#

taz you mind helping

half plover
#

is this the right spot for noshiro and ayanami? I never used them

atomic abyss
#

if for whatever reason you want to torp meme
yes, nosh can off tank

#

she can even tank, but agir is much better for that so

half plover
#

alr haha

keen sable
#

that agir isn't going to tank much

forest palm
#

Dev 20 will do something ShiSleep

frank pulsar
#

its prob a farming fleet, itll prob work fine

half skiff
#

is Hamman even good

#

?

versed swift
#

^how do i sell the meowofficers?

forest palm
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base hamman? no, hamman II? yes with a dash of copium

keen sable
left cedar
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Ham2 yeah have some niche use
ham OG no, trash

versed swift
forest palm
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is what it is

atomic abyss
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you're missing an entire word there

left cedar
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yo, something noteworth in JP news ?

forest palm
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96 is getting an augment

atomic abyss
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96 and long island aug

left cedar
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arigathanx

bleak mica
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anything special about the PR7 VIT-2 torp bomber? Like converged pattern?

forest palm
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it's a side grade to the existing 3 Converging TBs we use, so a new plane to play with for syncing purposes

left cedar
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timming, the strong dmg per torp, slower one as well

bleak mica
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i see, interesting.

full leaf
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is it bad if my mob fleet cant auto w10-4 or is that perfectly normal

left cedar
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quite bad

forest palm
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kind of problematic, need more context

left cedar
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make a thread, show ur dock with everything u have exceptions gray ones from there plp can help

forest palm
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honestly can just remove the C, R, and SR, and leave the SSR, and URs ShiSleep

left cedar
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W10 with problems ? idk Taz, i can guess a bunch of mistakes

forest palm
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probably weak suicide boat intercept, and burn damage NurnNom

atomic abyss
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prob burns

forest palm
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again lack of context doesn't help

full leaf
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mb i mean 10-3
im trying it again to see if the fleet consistently fails
ill post the fleet in a bit DorkHeart

forest palm
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🤌

normal crane
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Ägir is not usable if not dev30 right

forest palm
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for important content, yes

atomic abyss
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agir is usable at 25 since she gets most of her chonk by then
for anything actually challenging you probably want 30

keen sable
normal crane
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Still at chap 12 atm

full leaf
atomic abyss
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prob due to the fleets you battled

normal crane
left cedar
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lvl 53

keen sable
normal crane
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I only managed to get her to dev 27 atm

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With the blueprints I have

keen sable
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i'm curious did your fleet fail on 12-1?

normal crane
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I actually already cleaned chap 12, I'm still preparing to do chap 13

keen sable
cobalt rapids
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2 diff ppl AkashiHide

normal crane
keen sable
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there's multiple Yuu's? MutsukiHyperStare

atomic abyss
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there's even multiple enders

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why are you surprised?

full leaf
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how do i start a thread to post the pics Glowow oh found it

left cedar
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multiple Esdeaths as well

normal crane
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Can I use Ägir? Or just use with I already built

nova halo
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any chances of UR appear in anniversary event?

left cedar
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EN one ? nope (august)
JP one, really high chance (September)

nova halo
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zamn

atomic abyss
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Stay Tuned

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™️

plain saffron
timid beacon
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Did I start this late or do I have enough time to finish this

soft raft
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this cruise pass just started like last week, you got plenty of time

but if you're looking to get the ship from there, dont expect her to be anything worth your time

soft raft
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the main event of Cruise pass is the UR Bullin at lvl 100

hollow gust
timid beacon
half plover
timid beacon
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And the high rarity chest

half plover
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oh another yuu lmao

south sequoia
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Anything interesting for this weeks patch notes?

atomic abyss
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u-96 aug

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long island aug

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main event will be next week's maint

soft raft
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Hmm U96 aug, interesting

undone plover
timid beacon
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Sorry lag delayed message

timid beacon
undone plover
timid beacon
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I want the medals for Sirius and then use the rest for a chance to get enterprise

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Idk if that’s a good plan

viscid swift
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yeah don't, requisition is a scam

north gazelle
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You can get enterprise from medal shop or rookie mission

undone plover
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I think he means from the hull selection

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Oh… actually yeah if u are lil-E u cant since it is CA/CA
Dont spend it on requisition MutsukiHyperStare

keen sable
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sirius already marks you as an amagi player...

north gazelle
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Yes

timid beacon
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Wow

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So just gotta get lucky on the month change then no?

undone plover
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Basically yeah

keen sable
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i would hope you don't still need a cv 25 days from now

timid beacon
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What’s cv? BelCry

undone plover
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Enty is still good to get later OwariWOKE

keen sable
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carrier like enterprise

timid beacon
timid beacon
timid beacon
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Getting roon ų will take me forever since I don’t got the higher worlds unlocked which ima work on today

undone plover
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Enty wouldnt really replace penny since u still want a battleship in flag position

whole crypt
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Roon Muse is 🚮 anyway

forest palm
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this would imply Portland is also trash

timid beacon
eager mulch