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no
asw is immediately bricked
even with destiny and flame?
yes
yes
asw was the least terrible option
its still terrible
that's uhhh rather bold
I doubt that asw is the least terrible option
because i can think of very few things worse than ASW for main fleets
it was the only one that did something
what were the rest
thats way too fckin cute wtf
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide
give that a read
is 6fp,7trp and 1 acc < 10 torp in a sub fleet?
or can acc and fp turn the situation around?
like is fp useful on subs?
special ship buffs
Such as bb buff?
no, as in like, BM and AE shit
Oh shit
literally unusable. so it was that or asw.
reset talents and go next 
š
is it worth resetting and losing flame and destiny?
10 trp is better
Ehat were the initial talents tho
fr? so 1acc is meh?
Itās not that bad id just reset since destiny isnāt gud
Considering that Ironblood subs won't always be your best, and 1 acc is worth like 2 trp
and fp is 0 unless usig the subs in weekly mission?
ok, thanks
Do cats work in supply line disruption?
what about with the SR wolfpack subs?
Bring unicorn and try again
just get fortune and laugh at the 95 mission and never need to ever run it again
augment mission?
There is currently no ongoing daily raid for augment modules nvm
?
What fleet you use
im almost certain it gave the stones? was this morning tho
oh the weekly raid right
Cats don't work in weekly raid
repuls, strasbourg, california or maybe one of its sis, indi , foch meta, indompatble
No wonder you can't win
Jesus that's a whole lot of mid
š
Is that the fleet you use for campaign and event too?
have you given this a read by any chance?
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
sometimes ye, other one has more carriers
i think? its jist that they are amongt my leveled cuz i like them

sry 
well waifu over meta is a thing until you reach a certain point 
is it cuz its not enough of a boss fleet?
the issue is just about everyone you're using is bad
idk depends on your investment i guess
not helped I presume by lack of levels, limit breaks, and gear.
^
a whole bunch of rare and elite rarity shitters and one probably not MLB SR (and is about as good as the retrofitted starters
)
uh
well cant MLB the ships if my highest is a level 50
id maybe have the bullin for but
100% why your fleet died a death
idk if i understand nothing cuz like everyone keeps raving about portland when i dont whats so special about her
She's the best budget tank in the game for a newbie
You want her for missions, sheās good and tanks good
And sheās cheap which is a wonder for newbies
uh, i thought since they fckin allowed me to do it id at least have a chance
my understanding without reading too much into it is her skill gives the team dmg reduction
ye that prolly good
unicorn i understand cuz ye heal is great
plus mutltipliers seem good
Pretend that Portland does not have skills
Your fleet needs a rework
but ye gear wise its kinda hard, except the few purples missions give me, the plans arent enough
other fleer is, if you wanna know, california (only other rare BB around) long island unicorn, juno comet z23
That's why you read this, so that you know you won't need a second fleet before later
And that's quite the whole lot of mid too besides Unicorn and Z23
uh
calling them mid is being quite generous
you are most certainly not ready for a 2nd fleet at all
bruuuh, why does th game give me one then
game gave me 8 fleets for campaign
It ain't a Gacha game if it don't have a whole lot of garbage units in the pool
Just follow the fleet in that newbie guide I linked earlier
alrighty then
I need help with Kronshtadt cuz Idk what gear and augment she should have and If I should awake her to 125
ye my thoguht process was juno would be my tank with smoke, and i kept her cuz leveled, and comet i had fed her huge ammount of comets and liked the idea of buffing torps
if i use DD, i should keep it all DD?
buffing 0 damage is still 0 damage. avoiding 40% of what hits you when you only have 1 hp is still 0 hp.
you should use good ships
Standard cb gear for farming, more than that depends on the target
125 the ships you're actively using
ok, is it possible to quickly summarise what a "good ship" is without just being a tier list?
i think azur lane is too number based to not be a tier list right
When itās UR
k thx but what is standart cb gear xd and I'll farm with her
Not drake tho sheās decent not good
ah, sadge
no offense to you guys adviced, just wanted to like, learn instead of asking others
For her aux just give her eva/hp aux. For the gun, she have her own gun
and what's her own gun ?
being able to evaluate whether a ship is good takes months of playing the game to learn and takes years to perfect. It's not something that can be taught in a paragraph or two
The Beaver 𦫠bedge should be on a mob fleet ship, right?
it should be on any ship that wants it for tankiness after washing machine
Oh I thought because of the speed increase buff
wouldve expected that, oh well, worth the try i guess
higher speed can be good or bad
plus we have these grassless individuals theorycrafters that take the time out of their day to crunch the numbers so everyone else doesn't have to
CA or CB tank
well I don't have that one but will Triple 305 SK C/39 be good enough ?
Not that one
so
on this same wiki page but the other tab
is strasbourg good at least
and can I ask for what secondary she should have ?
/wiki 152mm mk 5
only ok? damn, shes my favourite ship
if you dont have any other ships its at least an upgrade over rares and elites
ill take that i guess
the internal struggle between prioritizing waifu vs. meta
and Augment I should get Lance or Greatsword ?
Greatsword usually
kk
And you probably want to give this a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment
thx for help š
k i'll give it a read
maybe I wont ask that much xd
Don't worry about it
ye.. just saw foch meta is called "tier N"
Lance is never a option to basically no CA or CB ...
theres probably no issue with putting some investment into what you already have, we can only work with what we have atm, but if youre looking to quickly chase higher level content the tier list is gonna help you get there faster
is foch meta even mlb and can you even mlb her
yeye , dw
the upside with the recommended starter fleet is that you only have to use the purple bulins which you get a lot of, but id be careful with using the gold bulins in case you ever get another sr shipgirl thats worth investing into
nope lmao, shes lvl 48, and my highest is strasbourg at 56
but if you dont see yourself getting a lot of SR's anytime soon then sure you can use some of them
kinda Foch is a foch no to even stat tech, since she is TRP ...
the only CAs that can ever get something of TRP stat tech is Unzen, and that is it
why i'm thinking some1 it will try to say Ibuki out of limbo!?
yeah meta ships can be hard to use if you cant mlb them and is even more annoying since you cant limit break them without doing the content where you get them, so if you miss out that ship is kinda screwed
meta ships are shit most of the time
oof
ye had only one extra copy cuz came in super late i. teh rcuise mission
Gear Labs Help
plus meta ships arent beginner friendly a lot of the stuff you need to upgrade them are from later game content so you better replace them with someone else soon so you dont have to level another ship from scratch in the near future
indy ... yeah, idk, that seens bad ...
the meta ships i can think of that are great are probably jintsuu and princeton for pvp and meta stuff, and some others who are decent
that said, dont even bother with the rest since you can get to 120 w/o mlb
I didnāt know Duke of York could show up in merit shop. If I had enough to buy her in the future, is that a good choice?
I believe itās like 20k? And Iām at around 2-3k a week into the game
do you have 20k?
if thats a price youre willing to pay then yeah i guess but you can also get her in war archive
no 
consolidate everything into one fleet if you haven't already and drop Indomitable and Indianapolis for your starter DD and Helena
then dont worry abt that, but shes good for the very nice +2 rld
can i ask how gear works? like are there certain builds for certain content? just asking to know but since i cant afford to get a lot of stuff from the gear lab yet i assume i just aim for whatever is at the top from ectl for any ship?
yet i assume i just aim for whatever is at the top from ectl for any ship?
Not exactly, esp for BB guns (Plus ECTL only really works for campaign)
Read the gear descriptions
top has a reasonable chance of being ok. better to just use what's good
but like at my current stage i could just do that no? just to get started
considering the top is usually rainbow gear and stuff that isn't even going to work
hmmm guess its gonna take a long while to fully kit out my fleets then
you are much better off using the gear guide
do you have a link to that?
#bot-spam /equip https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment
S rank is needed for quick battle 
When researching for a ship and you need to accumulate XP from a certain faction, does using a ship at level 125 still gather xp for the research?
yes
yee
Thank you
/prgrind
Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?
Yes
- Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
- Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
- Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
- Use faction filters in Dock to double check.
No
- EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
- META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.
im not sure if the tierlist or sams guide is outdated but I see on the tier list its the not improved 533 torp its the normal one so which is the better gold auto torp?
left best, right 2nd best
for agir is there a reason its the normal one and not the improved one or just outdated?
you'll need to ask them yourself
they prolly didnt update
gotcha ill prolly go off of the guide then for gear
agir torp damage good? 

either way u still give her good torps
i saw this on sams guide, so ig thats why they like the normal one
and give improvd to better torp ship
Syncing is the most copium thing on agir ever
i just use the gold 4 mag torps so idk
Do you use HE or AP bb gun on ulrich when the boss is heavy armor?
AP
Assuming it's like a champagne gun or something
Yea
HE for anit-light
AP for anit-medium and anti-heavy
it's really just them taking time for each update (also only one of that gear)
only one of that gear, like you can only acquire 1?
it was event exclusive, that event has not rerun yet, so no player has more than one of that
thats so funny that prob means i got it years ago lmao cuz i just got back into the game recently
oh wait no the event was like a few weeks ago nvm lol
? i am talking about the improved 533mm... and yeah it's a relatively recent event
yeeee i got confused cuz u said it hasnt rerun yet which made me think it wasnt recent and hasnt come up again
rerun gaps are currently 2 years+. yeah I could've given a more specific time span
all good i have it equiped on agir rn might move it to a more torp focused ship
i feel like someone else would make better use of it, but aight
ye i got yuudachi, shima, and noshiro who r more torp focused
- Look at ships you are currently using
2.Put it on a ship thats torp focus
shima
yes
ty
is it better to give fdg on mob fleet champy gun, mk7 or twin 410 kai for w14
457 tbh 

technically i can protocore it soon so
uh probably champy, the most dangerous enemies are the BBs that shell your main fleet to death
but 457 would be the best pick if you can get it
can dev 25 agir max lvl tackle 13/14?
13 sure, 14 wouldn't bother
i guess i can always delay longer
im like 80% of the way there anyway, just waiting on levels for agir and jda
but ya you want your BB to hit hard, and fast so 457 works out nicely 
what about specifically 14-3 where the boss are light
use mk7 on boss
do mobs armor change
well you can 1) brute force it, or 2) use MK7s
does chapayev damage buff 20% skill sync with shimas preload torps for pvp?
boss isnāt the only thing to fight in boss node
I brute forced 14-3 with AP 
I brute forced 14-3 with normal
just stack tanksā¢ļø
14-3 has much more 3* nodes and also has subs, rest is largely similar to 14-2
i just finished crafting my 2nd wyvern i cant make mk7s so fast 
need another month for that
speaking of mk7 will it ever appear in protocore shop/core data shop
W14 is p easy
looks better than what i used
W15 too
this is true, but you probably don't want the boss fight itself to go on for too long because of the BBs that spawn behind the boss continuously to shell your main fleet either
imagine doing w14 with more than 1 UR gear
skill issue la
i will be using this for w14, approved by at least one person 
looks not dead which is good
portland is the most questionable thing there
i can put takao there but she cant use the invuln aux
could be worse
i think thsts a bit worse
shouldn't need manju period
she got aug tho
like JDA should be more than enough to drop portland for a beefy DPS
i dont have another beefy dps 
surely you have someone beter than portlabnd
you can just use taco really 
uh tashkent?
lets not

yeah u see i have a lack of strong frontline
rip
You can switch portland to ancho
i have 4 options other than portland
takao (120 aug)
laffey1 (125 oath aug)
tashkent (120)
ayanami (113 no aug)
ancho in mob tank
I know, switch them around
wouldnt portland melt as mob tank
Even worse in boss, in mob she have uni to back her
but she will offtank in boss, which doesnt need that much tanky and the manjuu can save her potentially
mob will be fighting many battles and ooa battles
if you're proc'ing manjuu you're in deep shit tbh 
yeah its just insurance if it goes really bad 
expand your gun boat options la 
Hi. Im a new player, is it worth to reroll in this game?
i have tai yuan so its fine, and mog whenever i get around to her
no
So I should just roll with whatever I happend to get?
your pulls need coins and cubes, neither of which you get much of initially, and can be gotten much better by just playing
This game doesn't front-load resources like a lot of games do, so it's not worth it
not to mention how long it takes to roll
the game is very generous so its fine
I'd recommend reading through this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
Ah aight got it, I'll give it a read. Thanks!
what is rerolling
old gacha method of getting a desired, or optimal start
Hey everyone, how do we feel about this?
Iām a casual player. Changing noshiro for something else like jervis maybe?
Forgot the screenshot my bad
Yea sheās kinda low level still, Iām leveling her up, just unlocked her yesterday
At a higher level Cheshire would be the tank
Yea, sheās gonna be. Do you have any tips for the second destroyer then? And if changing illustrious to something like warspite is worth?
Warspite is garbo outside of tech
what content are you fighting with this
It really depends on who you have and what you're doing
Everything
I'd start a thread and ask for fleetbuilding help
Warpiste is complete dogshit before retro and painfully powercrept after retro
that's uhhhh
not how fleet building works
There's not gonna be one singuar fleet that's perfect for all content with no change
Yea I know, this fleet is mob fleet atm
that does not help one bit, is it pre-w12, w13, 14, opsi, what are you doing specifically
Im on chapter 11 rn
is a pre w9 fleet not a fleet for everything? 
alright so you have a boss fleet too?
you can probably easily do up to 12-4 given your leveling, and also assuming you have half decent gear
Yes, I think itās alright. Shinano not a flagship is kind of annoying though
stop using non mlb ships
Why? You want a battleship as flag
eh her butterfly barrage is pretty meh anyways
Oh really? Didnāt know that, I thought the butterflies are supposed to be in the middle
take out non mlb ships, or mlb them if you can, alsace first
Yea Iām saving up
the barrage is centered around her yes but it does not hit hard enough and it isnt enough of a central part of her kit to require Shinano to be flagship to properly function
Too much gold to spend on limit breaking too
get someone to replace mog cause she aint doing shit at 1lb
do you have a hood/nelson retro to use
this will take longer, sort your dock by level leaving out commons and rares and take pics and send in this thread im about to create
or that way works too
this the best gun for alsace right
depends
depends on the situation
whats the other contender
Champy gun for anti-med/heavy
457 for mobbing
again it's not so simple, it depends on the enemy you're fighting
basically wut blaster are saying fits for almost all UR Bbs, exceptions to Musa
whats a champy gun
triple 406/50
this one
Triple 406/50
so what situation is mk7 good
light armor bosses
mk7 works for low-mid campaign mobbing as well
brainless situations
When in doubt/lazy mk6/7
Wait Nagami purple name 
wait unique purple name 
HE gun good :mutsukinod:
youāre good
I know iron blood doesn't have good AA but which IB ship have best AA ?
... Regensburg iirc?
Nurnburg
Next best is Regensburg and Z46 iirc
Hmm that event is archieved , will nurnberg appear in shop ?
Nope, build only
Which pool i am looking at ?
CL, so light
I forgot Leipzig was decent too
yall forgot magdeburg
I mean, why are we looking for kms aa ships anyways, canāt we just use a different ship? 
ironblood simps
has anyone tried the Hindenburg AA gun tech
trying to find a good KMS ship with AA is like trying to find a needle in a hay stack
Idk where you even heard 10gb update to 20gb
Also apparently they doing some close testing soon for that
the game is already like 18g for android devices
and we have no news on the 3D stuff besides that it got delayed
Well we have supposedly news that it's going to be tested soon
itāll get here when it gets here 
just dont download all the l2d and voicelines
Is Kawa worth trying to get here
delayad as any new thing showed into CN Annys as all since catdorms thing i belive
Planned for CN anni, delayed because unity version upgrade and want to change something
Testing soon
That's all i heard
The code are mostly ingame also
We got 2 new img for 3ddorm
when will we get green nagami back
When mods make green higher than purple
leipzig with augment is next best, AA is not too far behind nurnberg (assuming nurnberg isn't buffing other IB ships and just herself). every other IB is quite a bit behind but the next best after that is magdeburg
I forgot which burg 
Inb4 weser has best aa
Any way to skip right to a boss
only on hard mode
Oof alright itās that Iām grinding for for this ship on 3-4 forgot her name
Alagi yes
Akagi and Kaga? Not worth the farm
Autocorrect is bad also Iām new so idk! Just trying to see
only do that once you can easily curbstomp it with two ships
farming 3-4 early game is a heavily outdated thing that nowadays serves as a newbie trap
Akagi and Kaga have been vastly powercrept and the amount of investment you need to make them good (Akagi+Kaga+Nagato) is not worthwhile
So the power crept rumors are actually real
With 700 ships, yes that will happen
They're like 5-6 years old at this point so not big surprise 
Iām a new gen so idk almost nothing abt the game unfor
Fair enough
Give this a read while you're at it too https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
more like 7 years old going from CN/JP 
How do i get lots of oil
commissions and having an upgraded canteen
I used to have so much wtf happened
were you using the 2x plans by any chance?
don't forget to buy weekly free pack on store either
and check your mail archive for oil in storage
Whats that
they're basically tickets you can use to do 2 runs at once
this doubles everything (except # of runs for such missions) including the negatives

Can I show my fleet and can you guys if Iām doing alright?
Only a few times, not to the point where id burn through 5k oil
then were you doing those comissions that cost 1.5k oil?
Yeah, show your fleet
Yeah the urgent one and training one that gives 18k exp
No wonder why
Stop doing those if you actually value your oil
You get more out of using that oil on regular grinding than on that comission
This is it and Iām lvl 31
There's a lot to change but we do not know which ships you have
that vanguard is very scuffed and that backline is slightly less scuffed
Read the newbie guide I linked earlier if you havent already
Ok
Use your starter and Portland for one. Unicorn is great and is extremely useful 99% of the time. Pennsylvania is fine for a new player
Iāve got some portland copies
Use the copies to limit break the original Portland
she won't be leveled 
How do you even level up ships easily any way to grind those xp books
dorm her and any exp book u get feed her
Aaaaaa
only way to really grind those XP books is to use lvl 100+ ships
but XP books didnt exist until like 1-2 years ago so you'll live
just put them in dorm and grind grind grind
Okay easy enough I wanted to get Akagi to replace repulse
Since I saw sheās low low tier
akagi is also low tier
see if you can get Enterprise instead (Medal shop if it has CVs avaliable)
Akagi aint worth the effort
How do i get lots of coins n tech points
So I should go all out on the banner for her? I though the event one
Oops Iām dumb sorry mixed them up
No you should save your cubes
doubt you'll get her off the event banner since it's most likely taking from the heavy pool (Enterprise is in the special pool)
tho frankly you should save your cubes since we're highly likely gonna have a UR event in September
Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
- Collecting the ship (~20%)
- Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
- Achieving level 120 (~35%)
-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD
Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.
For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
Hmm okay sure not sure who Iāll replace to put portland tho 
How much cubes n coins do you think i should stock up on for the ur
400 cubes, which is just enough to hit pity
try to get as close to 400 cubes as you can
Replace Zara with Port
This is in the newbie guide but this is what we generally reccomend for a newbie fleet
With my luck i can prob get the ur in 400 tries š
My zara is whoās been hard carrying me tho 

You have to raise Portland for your rookie missions anyways
Early game, your backline should be carrying though
Damn Iāve been doing things backwards lmao
Is 12th level good for exp grind
W12? yee
That's what most people grind
someone didn't follow this advice 
Ok but how do i level my ships before that
Damn it unique name I knew you were gonna do something like this
HT3
Whats that

event map
the typical stuff
grind grind grind, XP books, and dorm
Also event D3 (HT3 in this event) maps if you can clear them
My ships are level 70-80
at this point should look at 1:1 or 2:2 HT1. maybe 1:1 T3 but no purple parts for doing that
Most likely average
not dogshit but not megastonks amazing
You also have to raise your starter DD for rookie missions as well so you can perish the thought of replacing her for a while
idk what dd even is but sure
Destroyer
Ships with this symbol
Ohhh
I wonder if I even have her whatās her name
Z23
either Z23, Laffey, or Javelin works
They're the 3 starter DDs
I don't know but that reply was meant for someone who was ignoring event and instead farming war archives for a ship that was of no current use. audacieux isn't the real reward. oil, coins, parts, boxes, and all the other stuff events offer for free is the real benefit.
Okay good cus I really need to get rid of these blue guns 
hmm only portland should have a blue gun though 
What does 1:1 mean
she is better at equal levels or slightly less. unfortunately it will require some pain to level her
a fleet consisting of 1 backliner and 1 vanguard
1 ship in back:1 ship in front
bb is good as flagship...
Soooo is this better im assuming
where did your starter go
Daisen gun on napkin math is bis for heavy on musashi right?
Idk where she went
i would say long island with +6 helldiver is better than repulse with nothing
but they're both weak
Ok then howās this for a change 
I do have laffy
zara first...
The placement matters?
helena second...we always list ships in the order they should be placed
yes it does
Ik for main bbs should be at center but why vanguard
Front takes most damage , middle least
the mechanis of vanguard movement. the left most ship is the "lead" ship. the other ships follow that ship around. So the lead ship "runs" into the most bullets. Hence it needs to be the tankiest. The right ship is the "back" ship and runs into fewer bullets. And the middle ship runs into the least bullets beause hopefully the other two already ate every bullet
Oh that makes sense
It's mainly her copium for Twin 457
Izumo gun still her better option for the typical syncing comps
that luck is technically impossible
Do they nerf ur rates from 1.2 to like 0.001 ish% for limiteds
Izumo autoloader has the same timing as Daisen shell, and daisen shell handily outdamages izumo autoloader on heavy and about equal on medium
Pog
Ooh
i meant pity is 200 draws 
400 cubes each draw consumes 2 same as in heavy and special
Permanent URs are not in any event banners at all
What about limiteds
Those are event banners
So what I said still applies
I can say with confidence no
Unless they want to be sued by cn government because it have to be same as shown ingame
Technically possible
you can do 400 pulls without UR
The "pity" doesn't drop from gacha you claimed it
the term is spark
Last time i use spark people here get mad at me so 

it comes from somewhere old i dunno
i thought the game blocks u from going further 
That's why i use quotation mark
you thought wrong
who are you
idk
No you can just click confirm to ignore it
I have 400 for a long time
are u talking about the permanent banner ?
no it does not
What's the arbiter this month? Heavy?
this does not tell me what you were talking about
should be med
next time you are asking a question, please be more specific
that was from a completely different convo š
I have eHP3 draft 2. It's going through last edit before I put the numbers on the google sheet that I have. The theory is more better gooder and faster than eHP2.
I haven't typed up the theory 
so tldr guam sucks?
It's basically "Use harmonic means"
I haven't read ehp2 theory either
eHP2 was "use arithmetic means" lmao
The bot's using Harmonicas now? holy shit
something about each bullet doing 1 dmg and then calc number of bullets taken to kill
Yeah, but I kicked it up to 100 dmg bullets and 600 dmg torpedoes or something.
This base assumption is the same, however.

Maybe I uhh mis-entered Guam skill.
I have her 5% HPShield proc 10 times.
tldr she sucks
u suck
If you want like the one-paragraph rundown:
Let's suppose a situation where a shipgirl that would normally have 10 000 eHP has some skill that makes her invulnerable for half of the battle.
What is her eHP?
You might pose it as an arithmetic weighted mean of her eHP over the battle, but if her eHP is infinity for half the battle...
10 000 * 0.5 + inf * 0.5 = inf
Which is nonsensical - you can expect her to die when she...isn't invincible (LMAO).
If she is invulnerable for half the battle, the enemy would have needed to output twice as much damage to kill her.
eHP2 did this by arithmetically averaging the invulnerabillity as a damage resistance.
10 000 / ( 1 - 0.5 ) = 20 000
eHP3 does this by taking the harmonic mean of the rates of damage.
1/ [ 0.5 / 10 000 + 0.5 / inf ] = 20 000
This can be extrapolated and generalized for any number of eHP substates a shipgirl has, for any battle duration.
what are some practical uses of ehp chart
so its same same but different different
Only as a general guide to ship tanky == good .
For example, if you're running Drake (Fate) , and finding that she's dying, you look at the eHP chart and look for ships that have eHP's larger than 118.25%
In the case of ships that don't have different evasion shipstates, eHP3 math reduces to eHP2 math.
Which series 7 should i go for
does eHP3 include shields, rotating shields, barriers, smokescreens, torp shields, and augment slashes?
what's the difference between wyvern and spearfish?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and no.
doesn't really matter, they'll take a long time to get maxed either ways
wyvern does passive intercept and slightly higher torp damage, while spearfish has some rockets
And reloads faster
Danke
How dare you
my lack of augment slash math
How long does it take to get a series 7
where can i find ehp3
Less than a week to unlock a pr if you're efficient
A few months to get the blue prints to dev 30 one
obtaining a shipyard ship can take anywhere between a week to as long as you want it to
in my DM? 
sushi person in DMs with MeGPT
is it worth +11 mk6
I'm running drafts around the community before I publish it into the eHP chart. But here are my scripts for it. (Not a virus)
Whats dif about general blueprints and special ones
Suchihuman is a hater
Wdym faster
what is the expected release date
ip logger
The excel spreadsheet takes like 3 minutes to do the math.
Python script tales 2 seconds 
Excel gamer
I'm not getting too much feedback, (I suspect because no one cares about eHP), but I can probably publish it in the google sheets uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhHH
now
however, I don't have shit like L Opinatre and Vincennes or HMS Enterprise skills
Stop stealing my job smh
hi, i found this on the internet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HF6_hLEB8m_v0stp4DLGnIoDjgojvo7fjYz-cysjTMc/edit?gid=1231361331#gid=1231361331
It looks just like this https://nagami.moe/ehp
should i make plygun or 457 first from protocore shop
fdg can take the 457, though im close to making one from gearlab
plygun would go well on my gun CLs but i dont have any except sandy who already has twin 138.6
457 is very big good in chapter 13+, while plygun is smaller good everywhere
i could get plygun then get 457 from gearlab, or i could have 2x 457
get plygun
not in chapter 14
what purple torpedo should i craft for my submarine?
whatever you can get, preferably g7e and mark viii
ok
is this gun any good
Nothing too special
Man why did you +10 it before asking
one day someone will come in with a +13 Z-Flag "is this good?"

I have 15k purple main gun plates
is sirius good?
yea
i see on the medal priority say i should buyy her
yea
what is her role?
cv buffer
But your emden already raised. Better to keep progressing and stop changing fleet until you reach 9-1
i reached 10-1, btw should i raise any ship to replace z23? i got her to 120
Good but not amazing
i believe sam calls the space between good and amazing as "great"
cool
sirius is only better if youre utilising her buff
her dmg and bulk is not the best
so if i ultilised both, sirius is better right?
sirius appears in many endgame CV fleets. Emden is generically good but not the best anywhere
no
you cant utilise both though? one buffs kms fp and one buffs cv
if youre mixing hulls emden would pull ahead
oh ok, so they are good in different cases, thanks guys
Can I get some friends in Washington server. I need someone to kill the meta boss I summoned.
Ok
Join a guild , ask them
Ok
is by paying gems (and guild center) the only way to increase my dock slots?
How do i unlock the Red Chest area
progress in story
Is the Stroy the Green ! points on map
the red !
the red ā
Ohh i dont see any red
ignore red chests for now
you most likely don't have strong enough fleet for it right now if you started recently
Well my Fleets can handle W13
yea its enough for abysalls
if it is a c4 abyssal it should be easy enough
anything above that show fleets and gear
ok
Is Colorado Kai good?/worth retroing and is there any news about the 3d dorm thing since it's close to Anni
Its only a C4 abyssal
decent, not worth and no
Damn
there was a post on weibou about 3d dorm but nothing concrete
The problem is that she's a gold BB and not even a high-top end gold
it should be simple enough
even if u can't beat it from the first try u can heal the ships with medkits and go to a corner and defeat one of the mobs. there are 2 of them
What level are they
112 i think
also the difficulty varies depending on the tuning
Are any of the PR7 ships good?/top tier? Or are there any relatively new retrofit ships that have come out in the past 4~ months ish that are meta since I have late game ships but I'm pretty casual so idk whenever a ship gets a new retro
Oh i have uhh 60 90 80 something
im sure thats fine.
Well you are done with pr4/5? If you are then you can start 7, they are all pretty solid , DRs are op asf which is normal
I got every single pr1-6 ship working on PR7 now
u think the proto twin 457 is the best thing to use the t3 ordnance reports on for gear lab?
or are there better rainbow weapons to prioritize
It's the best first T3 ordnance thing. You can get one from gear lab and optionally one from protocore and the third is useless
is there a world 15 guide?
/w15
This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing
Cv or bb
ty
Let me consult your name
okay
Yeah it doesn't matter, that boss is the squishiest abyssal and should melt to either
the only one u need to be careful with is the medusa like one
ur cv will do wet noodle damage to it because of the high AA
Harmony is her name

DD is the hardest one because her black out stops main fleet from attacking 
My vanguard almost got cooked hmm i need to remake this CV fleet
u mean the one that teleports in the middle and shoots trp to wipe the vanguards
?
no

This is not a good sign on a 112 boss
sounds like gear issues
win is a win
More then likly its why im Doing OPSI to get Gear
i meant ur vanguard gear
Sandy has Really Good Gear Balti is Meh and Brenus has OKay gear
No sirius?
can u show bernnus's aux ?
yeah u see her eva
it is very low
idk why you even bothered to level that lance
do u have the beaver from the collection ?
nope
get it, its rly ez
Do you not have sirius to replace baltimore in your fleet
Who's thats
the ship girl
Only enterprise is benefitting from her buffs, enterprise is strong but it'd be better if all cvs were to benefit
I don't know who Sirius is
White haired HMS gold maid ship girl with red hues
sirius is a ship named sirius
Does this events ex not have a leaderboard
Recommend getting more adapt
Nope don't have her
Is this eventās EX manual required?
Check your medal shop to see if it has a selectable CL on it
Both ca
i didn't
no need manual
Hello, what can i do to raise my Total fleeet EVA/
Keep a look out for a selectable cl in your medal shop if ever, sirius is a strong asset for cv compositions
you could add ships to 2nd fleet
use more ships
It's easy
you get a whole 4 minutes to do it, shouldnt be too hard
oooohhhhh i just need to add another fleet of ships? tyyyyy
any insight?
also don't make a dd tank 
i mean if you dont see one in the place where leaderboards are then probbably not
Prob a bug idk. Not first time we straight up missing leaderboard small company pls understand
does adaptability even do anything
Yes
it makes opsi easier
Offensive affect enemy offensive stats(fp avi trp etc), defensive affect enemy hp, 3rd one affect your healing
Depending on your adapts vs enemy adapts, the enemy stats could increase/decrease up to 30%
It in fact does a lot
Chat is there any dive bombers thats better than helldivers but not as expensive as tenrai
not worth crafting
will mthere be maint this week
Yes
1 but its only better after 100+ gold plates
So basically not worth it.

Tldr, use Helldivers if you don't have Tenrais
Stuck at 10-1
So say I have every UR/DR outside the new PR season, where would Kearsage fit in?
Operation Siren with Yorktown2
meta showdown vs michita
Assuming you have HVAR hellcats
York/Kear/that German ship with the stop?
I do yeah
kear works with bf109 aswell 
Then yeah she's your premium anti light/med armour option with planes
Implacable would be more ideal, but AvP works too
Yes
Impla would arguably prefer to be on anti light/med tho
She works well for both
Since she can pack more fighters too
Ultimately it depends on your needs anyways
Well, if you know the boss isn't gonna move, you can swap AvP off instead and keep enty
I don't remember bosses like that ngl, I just assume every boss I run into moves
Fair
Which ones should I prioritize
Ok that's a bit of a hard one
bismarck zwei
Do you have any more rainbow bulins you can buy?
and stop partial lbing ships
I only have 3k rn
Bismark Zwei it is
Like focus on one?
Yes
Yes
exactly
yes
1 MLB > multiple 1/2LB
I guess
Bismarck Zwei > Alsace > Yorktown2 > Soyuz would be your priority
Guess I focus on one š
you dont need to waste bulins to level them
Get fdg to dev 30 asap tho
Who should I replace for anchorage
Anchorage is a Portland replacement
But I'd sooner replace Ayanami
What is this fleet even for?
It's an incomplete mob fleet
Anchorage would probably be better as a boss tank
But Ayanami is probably the most unreliable part of this comp so I'd replace her
Iām almost there
When was last time we had quick skill finish
Or replace Portland with ancho and Ayanami with a proper dps
I want to say April
I need 20k coins to fully limit break Bismarck 
Who should I replace aya w
It depends on what you have
Early or late april
I sincerely hope that you've cleared w11 already with that fleet...
Ancho replaces San Francisco here
San Francisco goes to mob and replaces Ayanami
I cleared 12-1
Or should I just replace ayanami with retro sandy
That would go a long way yes
Ayanami is kinda ass on auto
If planes aren't an issue for the boss
Sandy stays on mob, she'll do great there
If planes are an issue, then you may want to swap sandy with kawakaze
Oh yeah planes are a bit of a problem rn
If planes are an issue on mob, then it would suck even more in boss
It keeps shooting those corn seeds everywhere
What world should I be on with this fleet?
Keep ur sandy in boss , swap kawa to mob
Most likely w12
That cleanly beats w13
If that's your only fleet, w12
If you got 2, should be able to clear w13
Now that I think of it, no my uni heals everyone up
What about chapayev
where unicorn
where tank

Which ship should I go for next
kazagumo
use your dupes to limit break 1 main copy, if they are already mlb retire the extras
Is ognevoy good?
okey



Yorktown 2 next?
what URs do you have
next month
JP anni is next month
jp
EN anni is next week
stay tunedā¢ļø
on jp anni most likely, on en anni š®
Most likely with JP anni
I regret not getting mogador 
most likely
HOW do i invest in the 6 units here in my team?
invest what
I mean, get them more power
limit break, lvls, better gear
limit break, enhance, levels, gear
Firstly, don't just units by their "power" total in game
That's just a stat total
Otherwise, as said above, play the game
Just keep playing the game
affinity
šš»
Get coins and lb Laffey and unicorn
ight
and penny and portland and helena
Okayyy thanks šš»šš»
I need information about the enforcers' armor type
/sirenstats in #bot-spam
How do you know if a gun is made for specific armor types
usually champy gun and its sidegrades ( soyuz gun and flandre gun )
math the dmg from the wiki stats
What are their names in the game?
Any 2 fleet I could build with these ship
no stick to 1fleet, and use less golds
hood unicorn theseus - portland helena laffey
grab helena from guildshop
u can also read sams picture guide for alr done maths
Where can I find that
Which is the best kyat to put as command kyat for CV fleet?
Thank you š
bisha or one of the elites ( jiro, eagle ark ) depending whose kyats skills u dont need since they all fight for staff
which is basicly bisha for rld or elites for dmg
Which bombers and torpedo bombers are best for medium armor?
BF109Gs for fighters
Skyraiders for dive bombers, lacking which Tenrais or Helldivers
No change for TBs - standard Ryuuseis and co
@worthy prairie
ok thanks
Eh, all of em dun hab skill that proc on command slot
Guess I'll just hunt for another god bisha then
hi, what ships do you guys recommend in clearing world 13 ?
Sandy with aug and retro for AA
thread post dock and depot with equipped on 
this is some of my ships
did u try it ?
yea, but i have trouble surviving the boss part
i cant seem to find any updated guide
thats why i ask here, hehe
create a thread

it looks like you just invested in anything shiny
all those gold BTDs are trash, for example
ill create a thread
where is haku ?
Help for clearing w13
What should i use? 
none
the purple gun on the top right background is better than those two
Already used by someone else though
get another
How do i get ur bulins
As a new player im totally not jealous
dont be
that's rookie number
proto shop or somewhere there
mine is crap, compare to what others here have haha
i just play long enough, and still my fleet is shit
Bro what
wait till you see my account
gold gear doesnt mean its good
some purple gears are better than some gold gear
2 mahans on T3 apparently does wonders for Halford grind 
I started Halford yesterday, was Bayard before this with the event bonus on Dupleix and whatshername

is sgoodshe guys?
Good ship
are you taking a picture with another phone?
yes... sry bout that
you love to hear taht, woudlve been sad to leave her in port with a design like that
thing is you'll probably be leaving her in port anyway
she is like... an extremely cope secondary healer
had a shouhou in one of my fleet as a support carrier, guess i can just yeet her and use in stead?
I used use her a lot is all I can say
Unicorn > all other main healers
Ryuuhou is a targeted heal, she's decent but her package has aged compared to using Volga or Aquila
this says nothing
I used her a lot too, but you know, a few years before Aquila happened
personally i wouldn't want to really invest in her at this point in time, at the very least waiting to see if aquila becomes obtainable via archive or something when the event gets there (which might happen soon)
you'd probably be better off using a bote with no heals that deals 3 times the damage anyway
unfortunately the shop ship for Hymn was Duca degli Abruzzi
vs using ryuuhou
regardless there's little use for Ryuuhou for most of the game
There will be a point in time where you have a bunch of skill books and you could invest into anyone and not feel bad about it lol
what does that have to do with anything
if anything I guess you could keep Ryuuhou until you need to level shitters 
i ge that, but i only have one unicorn
yes but you only need 1 healer
the only times you use other healers is when you're leveling other stuff for tech or just don't want to waste XP on a capped Unicorn
I usually used one healer for Mob fleet and then no healer on Boss fleet since theyāre not debuffed by ammo
you could in theory use Unicorn + Ryuuhou for the double healer setup in late campaign but Aquila or Volga are generally better for that, Ryuuhou still an option if you don't have them by then
I think Perseus heals off fleet? I donāt remember. Thatās if you have her
Perseus has a relatively weak cross fleet heal, but it also means gimping that second fleet
ryuuhou is 2 hit 
what do you mean 2 hit, if it's her heal it's 3 ticks isn't it
+2 cv hit
yeh so save her for leveling with shitters 
When is past meta ships added to dossier?
allen is 2x better at AA than Z46
How good is strasbourg? Is she near richelieu level?
yes near