gameplay-help

[lone sleet]

mine are pretty mid, for special perk it's usually just exp or somethign

it doesn't need to e god tier, i just want a 7/10 cat

[sweet delta]

Maybe a hundred gold cat boxes can get you 0 to 5 of those

[lone sleet]

should i budget by buying boxes daily for them, or is it wasteful? i usually spend my coins on BPs and raising ships

😮

so like 2,000 cat boxes...

[late flame]

i'd say just do the daily free cat

also me : put in survey to ask manjuu to get rid of cats altogether. i forget they exist most of the time

[steady beacon]

You will reduce my 80 CV RLD to 40 over my dead body

[lone sleet]

do their buffs matter much?

it seems like a nice endgame coin sink. i'd enjoy it if i had millions of coins XD

[lone sleet]

that strong?

[steady beacon]

I find it strong, at least
Whether one appreciates it as much as I depends on how much you value CVs and how committed you are to getting them to pull off certain feats, I suppose

[vale spindle]

remember cats have skills in addition to talents

[steady beacon]

But, frankly, not everybody cares about such things and for them, it's natural to ignore cats for the most part

[lone sleet]

seem like it'd be enjoyable. i guess i don't yet haeve the funds to pursue it

[late flame]

i mean, i really forget.. EX fight, no cats)

[lone sleet]

possibly once i've ascended more ships

[hollow sail]

cats make a significant difference

[lone sleet]

but the girls can't have their own cat fight?

[late flame]

it would be more meaningful if cats were treated like aux, imo

[vale spindle]

its 2 cats per fleet

personally i dont find cats useful since i just ur spam anyways

like they help for min max but average player can just daily cat box and spam good ships and be fine

[sweet delta]

Perfect CV cats offer upwards of 20% damage bonus over empty cat slots, not even considering reload things yet

[vale spindle]

you also get random cat boxes from opsi for free too

and some events might give cats as event rewards like the tempesta cats

[late flame]

feels like tempesta cats is an experiment.. but towards what, well.. that remains to be seen

[lyric stump]

if u have a good income

like doing 12-4 or 13-4 daily to get coins daily and u find urself with a lot amount of coins sure

but cats is always last things to invest il say

with coins

[lone sleet]

ty belfie

[lone sleet]

this is significant

[late flame]

YMMV - effort expended towards that end

[hollow sail]

i say just ignore every cat that isn't already very good starting talents, which means you will probably be waiting a good while for SR cats and an eternity for elites. once you have a good base, then you can reroll at your discretion based on how many surplus coins you have

[lone sleet]

sadge that all my random cats weren't speshul

[rain vine]

if nothing else, cat nodes in opsi

[lone sleet]

oh, true

other question - how do i time-offset a CV if there are two in a fleet?

[sweet delta]

Use fast or slow planes or beacon or manjuu

[lyric stump]

u can see theres flight time

[lone sleet]

and each plane is running a separate timer, or is it that they all go togehter?

[lyric stump]

and use different planes to make that similiar

[hollow sail]

there's a formula that determines the airstrike cooldown

[lyric stump]

its all same for 1 cv

see here my shinano is 22s for a strike

[lone sleet]

it takes like the slowest one of the planes on the CV? or averages em out

[hollow sail]

all the numbers go into that formula to determine it, on airstrikes every type of plane is launched

[lyric stump]

so i try make other 2 cv have same time

[lone sleet]

oo

[lyric stump]

averages

idk hwo they average , they need count cv rld tech also but uh ya

and i have my hak on 22.84 so they sync perfectly

[plain saffron]

can commissions give merit?

[lyric stump]

shouldnt be too hard nayways

[lyric stump]

i dont believe so but uh

[hollow sail]

no merit from comms

[plain saffron]

can't believe game lied

[steady beacon]

Pre sure only some missions and PvP ofc

[lone sleet]

it lied, the weren't 2d, they were irl waifus

[wide bramble]

Hey so, for World 13 - To help with nuking planes on my mobbing fleet, who should I be using instead of Painlieve or Enterprise? I have these ...

Just not seeming to get through the planes fast enough

[sweet delta]

It's not the carriers' problem, it's the vanguard

But you should put aquila instead of enterprise and move enterprise to boss

[wide bramble]

Gotcha, been using NJ+Bismarck2+Essex for boss atm

since essex has been crushing the planes on the bosses and Biscuit+Helena one-top the boss almost

I was told Perseus is cracked but Idk where in the game to use her

[steel jacinth]

i forget, for medium armor bosses, do i use the sword or bowgun?

[sweet delta]

I'll tell you unicorn is even more cracked

[sweet delta]

Usually sword

[steel jacinth]

alright, sword, got it
thank you!

[sweet delta]

Aquila replace painleve then, and then do whatever you want with the third mob slot and the boss slot

[wide snow]

with extra AP in OpSi do I run C5 or C6?

[soft raft]

5

[south sequoia]

If you already have unicorn levelled up and retrofitted perseus is just gonna collect dust

Unicorn already does what perseus does and doesn't fall off

[wide bramble]

How good and what is Implacable used for

I have her, she's maxxed... but I've never put in the effort to understand her

[steel jacinth]

wait why is c5 better to use extra ap on rather than c6?

[sweet delta]

Good for anything , but best for single/double target bossing

[sweet delta]

Same chance for cat nodes for cheaper AP cost

[steel jacinth]

ahhhh, okay thank you for clarifying
didn't know that!

[wide snow]

is the cat nodes main source of loot? what about coins/tokens

[sweet delta]

Coins and tokens are aplenty just by playing opsi, for extras to convert to vouchers, you'll need to do strongholds (which is part of just playing opsi)

[hollow sail]

C3 if you have time to stop and buy akashi AP boxes, C5 if you choose to skip her

[sweet delta]

How about both C3 and C1?

[spring bolt]

for gold plate per ap, c3>c1

[hollow sail]

C1 for the rest of the month, until you need to burn or run out of coins somehow

C1 is for farming AP if you have the time, C3 is for burning it while still buying spare akashi boxes should you choose to stop for her

[sweet delta]

Yes, positive gold plate income is greater than zero

[hollow sail]

if you choose to not stop for akashi then C5 is better than C3 simply because it's faster

[blissful hamlet]

is all the new ship get exp bonus during this event?

[lofty zodiac]

Why only odd number 1 3 5?

[hollow sail]

coincidence

[sweet delta]

@lofty zodiac

[lofty zodiac]

Ok so less ap spent

[plain saffron]

if you buy a ship in merit shop does it play same animation as when you gacha them?

[hollow sail]

C1 gives you an AP profit if you grind for very long periods of time due to the akashi spawns. C3 is the cheapest zone that spawns 1 cat node, C5 cheapest zone that spawns 2

[blissful hamlet]

Where do you find this popup

[sweet delta]

Events

[blissful hamlet]

[wide snow]

so c1 for AP, c3 for ??, c5 for more loot

[plain saffron]

kinda hard to see

[wide snow]

nvm im blind

[plain saffron]

if lazy just c5

[hollow sail]

C3 same efficiency as C5 if you ignore akashi. better than C5 if you don't ignore akashi since she spawns more often

since everyone's rushing to burn the AP at the end of the month you just do C5 if you don't have the time since C5 is faster than C3 for the same amount of rewards per AP spent

do beware though

if you do decide to C1 grind, i recommend having at least 1000 AP before starting

there can be long periods of unlucky streaks where akashi decides to not spawn so you want a bit of a safety net if that happens. however it will all average out in the long run to a profit

[wide snow]

1000ap as safety net is kinda wild no

thats like 10 gold ap boxes

[hollow sail]

i've seen it go 500-600 AP without her showing up this month alone like twice. still profitting in the end though of course

and even if she does spawn you can get unlucky with what she decides to sell

[wide snow]

if im not ignoring akashi for c5 then how is ti compared to c3

[hollow sail]

C3 is superior because you will get more akashi spawns. as for how much superior, you'd have to ask veerra for the exact numbers. its all been empirically proven though and you can check his spreadsheets

[wide snow]

[hollow sail]

well you can start with less, but to alleviate frustration with potential unlucky streaks and having to wait it's good to start with a fair amount

[lyric stump]

its mostly wut planes

use flap jacks if u have

[hollow sail]

the C1 grind is one of mental fortitude, knowing things will get better in the future even if luck is not on your side for the moment

it really brings a new meaning to the expression "scam cat"

[uncut patio]

I have no clue what I'm doing, can I get some opinions on my fleets and gear?

[light trail]

is flandre still worth unlocking/using? im thinking it might be worth pausing on nakhimov just to do CDC with vichya ships to take advantage of the exp boost

[sweet delta]

no harm in pausing nakhi because she'll be useless for months anyways

[light trail]

oh wait nvm only the new ships get the bonus and stras is the only main fleet new girl

[brisk shard]

is the new equipment from event good?

[jaunty vault]

another 500 HP aux with a super niche skill

its good if you want 500 HP padding on a ship or Damage Reduction from the mentioned factions

[brisk shard]

is jervis good?

[frank pulsar]

yes

[jaunty vault]

depends on what you mean by good

[brisk shard]

i mean if she is useful for long term

[jaunty vault]

you won't use her for long

[brisk shard]

sad

[rain vine]

usable in w14 i think?

[jaunty vault]

usable, yes

i mean, I've used her in w14, on lethal

[frank pulsar]

shes good tank, but tanks get replaced very easily

[sturdy badger]

Damn... Almost there. How to get more tech point?

[jaunty vault]

/fleettech in bot spam

[sweet delta]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms

[sturdy badger]

After readin all dat, imma go to contemplate my mistake I did in the game just now

Btw, tq. I can rest easy now

[eternal moth]

Retiring a German ship before it hit 120 I assume?

[sturdy badger]

No, I mlb'd mini friedrich der groBe

[rain vine]

not really the biggest deal

[sturdy badger]

Yea... In the end, it doesn't matter

[eternal moth]

She's a purple, that's not a big deal. It's a little more issue if you just throw away gold bulins, but you get plenty of purple bulins

[hollow gust]

It's only purple bulins , I don't think fdg Chan was even that bad

[eternal moth]

She's not

[hollow gust]

Can't be worse then NCal lol

[eternal moth]

She's actually in the same tier per ECTL, so not as good as I thought

[hollow gust]

haven't leveled mine, 0 reason too

[lunar sparrow]

Is this event a rate up and the ships will get added to the perma pool or a limited event construction?

[plain saffron]

og run > rerun > permanent

[hollow gust]

Current 3 ships are limited event , they will eventually get rerun and added to perma pool. But that will be a long long time lol

[lunar sparrow]

Ty

[spare cave]

Just hit the Ur pity, who should I take ? I thought no nj since I already have a lot of Ur bbs but idk between shinano and shimakaze. Thx for the help

[stark quiver]

Shinano

[spare cave]

Why ?

[crimson glacier]

coz shima isnt that useful

[stark quiver]

Cuz you don’t have a single UR cv, you have enough ur bbs, and shima isn’t worth

[spare cave]

Ok ok

[stark quiver]

Also don’t partially limit break ships pls, unless they were dupes of course

[spare cave]

And I've heard that she's best played with hakuryu but I'm far from having her. Will she still be useful alone in my fleet?

[crimson glacier]

yes

[pulsar hornet]

Who's your go to BC when forced to take them when clearing an event stage?

[crimson glacier]

odin

[stark quiver]

Any who has levels

[spare cave]

Yes but I don't have enough Ur Bulins

[sweet delta]

*Any who needs levels

[stark quiver]

I just use 2nd fleet depending on what I need to get done, but also works

[sinful escarp]

any that wont die

[stark quiver]

Nothing u can do, just save, that being said , it would be a bit until nano is usable

[south sequoia]

Are you spreading out ur bulins instead of finishing them 1 by 1

[spare cave]

I've been doing that a bit yes

Didn't knew it was a bad idea

[wide snow]

considering 11-1 is the most efficienyt way to level ships how can I bring like 2 level 70s in and still not die if I'm leveling my main fleet for research? do I put like some 125 in the vanguard with the other 2 70s or how so can I efficiently level unlevelled ships

[crimson glacier]

spreading is awful idea

[wide snow]

considering gear wise i have okay ish gear

[crimson glacier]

having multiple non mlb URs is the same as having 0 URs

[spare cave]

Ah

[stark quiver]

Well now you know, pls
Don’t do it anymore

[spare cave]

Ok, who should I prioritise from the ones I have ?

[crimson glacier]

id probably do soy

[stark quiver]

I’d say Alsace and Soyuz

[sage marlin]

heya, when is the anniv starting? during the current event or after?

[spare cave]

JP Ur anniv is around the 15th September

[south sequoia]

Soyuz > Alsace > Vanguard > Mogador > Laffii > Ulrich

[sage marlin]

and for global? I thought it was right around the corner

[spare cave]

Btw, from what I have, who should I grind in pr ? I've almost finished Brest

[south sequoia]

Put laffii over mogador since mogador is close anyways

... wait no ignore that, just finish laffii first

[crimson glacier]

id rather do laff2

[south sequoia]

Yep

[crimson glacier]

mog is closer but its still mog

[spare cave]

Ah she's bad ?

[crimson glacier]

well for UR standards i guess

[cloud fractal]

I’ve just been MLBing the URs as I get them. Should I not bother with MLBing Shima? She’s my only non MLB right now.

[late flame]

imagine, we almost had mog as T5 UR if she wasnt patched

[crimson glacier]

well if you have tons of bulins

[sweet delta]

Alsace has more use than soyuz even without considering that theyre using Richelieu

[stark quiver]

Doesn’t see much use in a lot of boss comps

[late flame]

lets just say that while she's great now, there's no shortage in the dps dept

[cloud fractal]

I use her a lot, but she was my first vanguard UR.

[stark quiver]

Understandable, you’ll get more and more dps as time comes

[spare cave]

I use her for my french fleet, because that's my fav faction

[stark quiver]

Single faction fleet no bueno

[spare cave]

Talking about that, should I continue pulling for Strasbourg? I have 100 cubes left, and I already spent 180 without getting her. The french are my favourites, and Strasbourg being an historical ships and all makes me want to pull her

[late flame]

save

[stark quiver]

Pls don’t pull for her, she’s not worth considering you have little to none cubes

[cloud fractal]

From a gameplay standpoint, you should always be thinking about the next UR event. But I am willing to spend money, so I pull for everything.

[late flame]

you are also far from 400 cubes for guaranteed pity for next UR event, which will be in sep for JP anni

[stark quiver]

from an unemployed person f2p cool

[cloud fractal]

Don’t be like me.

[spare cave]

Yeah, guess I'm gonna start to save, that's what I already thoughts, but it hurts

[late flame]

on the bright side she will rerun albeit in a couple of years

[spare cave]

Even tho she seems to be mid, since I love naval history, Strasbourg is important to me

But yes I guess I will regret more if I miss a Ur

[late flame]

i wish i joined during *SSSS Gridman collab original run so i can has 2 goldburns, or a second table from vanguard original event

[cloud fractal]

You gotta play the way that’s best for you. If you miss the UR because you want her that badly, peeps might act like it’s sus, but it’s however you want to play.

[stark quiver]

It’s kinda up to you to play the game, if you ask here most of the ppl are gonna say to save cubes and go to URs, but in the end, it’s a gacha game and you can always 💳

If you have your goals then go for it

Just that you won’t get very far missing a lot of URs

[spare cave]

I know, but on the other hand, I already have better ships so she won't see much use, even in my french fleet (yes nations fleet are bad but I like to use them in easy/normal content)

[cloud fractal]

This chat exists to guide you in the best objective choices, but it’s your game, your choice.

[spare cave]

So I probably will stop but damn, if only I pulled her

And it would be horrible if I missed Ur Yamato coming in September (let me cope)

[ruby knot]

For W15, is there any good alternate for Musashi in Lil Enty server?

[stark quiver]

Yes Soyuz

[ruby knot]

Thanks

[jovial cosmos]

Is Ayanami worth to use?

[sweet delta]

Manual gaming only

[jovial cosmos]

[cloud fractal]

Just pulled Litt. Worth leveling for any reason other than fleet tech?

[stark quiver]

No

[crimson glacier]

she was bad even back in her release

[cloud fractal]

So many great looking characters, so many bad choices among them 😂

[lavish mango]

Hello, I have an overflow of rainbow bulins, which ship should I limit break first, Sovetsky Soyuz or Alsace?

[remote yarrow]

Define overflow

[lavish mango]

4 that are occupying my dock

[remote yarrow]

That's not an overflow at all , but in any case both are pretty good Alsace is slightly better on shorter fights and viceversa

[atomic abyss]

alsace probably
depends on the other URs you have though

[lavish mango]

Thanks.

Which one would be better for world 14?

[cloud fractal]

They put Soyuz a little higher for a person a little ways up, but they had shared what URs they had for context.

[atomic abyss]

yeah, need to see what URs you have already to give a more reason based recommendation

[lavish mango]

I have every UR since Bismarck 2.

(The one I limit breaked are the one until Shimakaze tho, so I don't have ships like UvH or Vanguard limit breaked)

[lavish mango]

Ok, thank you.

[atomic abyss]

well i shd rephrase the question
are any of the URs partially limit broken

[remote yarrow]

I think it's better if you show us an screenshot of your URs

[atomic abyss]

no that recommendation is incorrect without any context

[cloud fractal]

Don’t use that as your basis. Show the URs and the limit breaks you have lol

[kind needle]

Where should I start worrying about sub fleets?

[remote yarrow]

You use them at W14 and W15

[atomic abyss]

well you can ignore them entirely, but w12 is probably a safe place to start levelling them
you'll only use them in 14/15

[kind needle]

Alr at 14-1, should I start fixing em?

[cloud fractal]

I even said show the URs for context.

[remote yarrow]

Sure

What are you using btw

[cloud fractal]

Or rather said they had chosen Soyuz based on other URs in possession n

[kind needle]

So, just checked, this and U-552 Meta are mostly leveled up. Idk if my gears are bad

[atomic abyss]

auxes are problematic, but the torps are fine

[remote yarrow]

2 torp auxs are not recommended

[kind needle]

Don’t have snorkel since I just stepped on 14-1

[lavish mango]

This, there is also a dev 30 Hindenburg out of the image.

[remote yarrow]

Get snorkel and pressure resistant hull design

[atomic abyss]

alsace then

[kind needle]

Which aux should I equip for the meantime tho?

[cloud fractal]

This

[lavish mango]

Ok, thanks

[lavish mango]

Thanks

[remote yarrow]

That's about it tbh, subs don't really have many options

[kind needle]

Oh…

[remote yarrow]

But if you don't really have anything else stick with the Torps

[kind needle]

Here my subs, idk which to level up first

Also which comps should I use

[remote yarrow]

Get Alba from Merit and use her with Archer and Flasher

It's rng tho

You gotta wait till she appears in your Merit shop on reset

[kind needle]

Aight, imma spam pvp ig

[kind needle]

So KMS/Wolfpack Subs ain’t applicable to my dock rn?

[atomic abyss]

you are missing u-86

and u-86 is gacha 🎲 only

in any case, the ol fish comp is ever so slightly better than wolfpack anyways

[remote yarrow]

who's 86

[atomic abyss]

sorry, i combined u-81 and u-96

but yeah you kinda need one or the other

[remote yarrow]

Wolfpack is 96,81 and 47/37

It's easier for you to use Fishpack

[atomic abyss]

it's not the worst if you're missing one of them
but yeah you can get alba from merit so might as well

[kind needle]

Could Cavalla go or Alba still better?

[remote yarrow]

She can, but Alba is better

[atomic abyss]

alba better

[warm flax]

Will we get a stronghold tomorrow

[remote yarrow]

I think so

[blazing shale]

Yeah, strongholds spawn every monday

Joffre isn't farmable right? Just the perma banner

[remote yarrow]

Yep, just special

[pliant sparrow]

Do xp boosts on shipgirls apply only on sorties?

[atomic abyss]

you mean the one from >120 morale? yes sorties only

[remote yarrow]

I think he means the 20% from event

[blazing shale]

Sheffield for example gains +20% exp, but that's individual exp

[pliant sparrow]

Yep thats what i mean

[remote yarrow]

Yeah I think it's only in sorties

[pliant sparrow]

Ok thx

[wide snow]

fastest way to level commander?

[plain saffron]

use full fleet and go farm stage

[remote yarrow]

Level 70 Commander Boost pack

[atomic abyss]

honestly? play the higher difficulty maps with full fleets

[plain saffron]

as long as difference between enemy lvl and your commander lvl doesn't exceed 20 it's good place

[wide snow]

is there a diff between full fleet and 1:1 fleet

[atomic abyss]

yes, less ships = less commander exp

[wide snow]

iam. level 124

[atomic abyss]

in the first place, there should be no reason to grind 1:1 if you're around there

oil cap encourages you to grind with full fleets

[cloud fractal]

I’m about to get Ägir, but I’m nowhere near the BPs required to dev30…

Guess I have time since I’m doing AvP next.

[atomic abyss]

yeah that's pretty normal

well agir is fine at 25 at least

[gloomy mesa]

Any of these vanguards Worth building?

Planning on getting Anchorage but still missing about 40 tech

[atomic abyss]

san francisco

[hollow sail]

chang chun

[atomic abyss]

yeah chang chun and emden too
but for US, san fran

consider limit breaking charles and her rare/common rarity sisters to get the beaver badge too

[gloomy mesa]

Thanks 🙏🏾

[zinc hornet]

just so i dont make a stupid mistake, if i have a unit mlb and retrofit, is there any need to keep extra copies?

[atomic abyss]

no need to

[gloomy mesa]

You can give them to me

[zinc hornet]

better to retire than to use for enhance?

[gloomy mesa]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

commons for enhance, everything else retire

[inland shoal]

Commons -> Enhance
Other -> Retire

[zinc hornet]

thought so, ty

yep okay, ty

[round egret]

just noticed my mogador ask for iris or vich dominion gear... vich gear doesn t exists right?

[zinc hornet]

im about 40 pulls away from getting the UR exchange. do I go for NJ or shima?

[atomic abyss]

just give her the rainbow gun from her event

[atomic abyss]

shinano if she's not mlb
otherwise NJ
shima is very low prio

[round egret]

i wanted to use both her and brest in the same team but now i don t have enough iris gear

[zinc hornet]

ive got shinano at 4 star

[atomic abyss]

so mlb shinano first

non mlb UR = 🚮

[zinc hornet]

i have enough bulin to mlb her. should i use those and grab NJ?

or use the bulin on vanguard

[atomic abyss]

no, save the bulins for someone else
like vanguard yes

[zinc hornet]

okay, thanks

[atomic abyss]

then use the rainbow AA gun on brest

or give her the french CB gun from PR5

[round egret]

i need to craft something then, my ur gear is the ur ca gun, the dd gun and now the table

[atomic abyss]

you could just use the single 138.6 if you're really worried

[round egret]

[atomic abyss]

mog prioritises the twin 138.6
in any case there are the iris torps from mog event anyways

so if you don't want to craft anything, just give mog the torps and brest the gun
not that i would recommend it but

[round egret]

i don t even have one how is the cross brooch?

[hollow sail]

rather pointless

[atomic abyss]

then just do this

probably the best for the time being

[round egret]

the weird looking torp? 550 mm something?

[atomic abyss]

forgot the name, but yeah the split one

since it's french gear

[timber sage]

anyone know which map to farm for OpS 091 - 2nd record file ?

[round egret]

i ll do it, but how are they compared to the normal for reference?

[atomic abyss]

#gameplay-help message

check this

effectively the same

[round egret]

i need to craft more ur gear, but it means i must spend hours on opsi

[pale rover]

does alsace contribute much more to overall dmg compared to vanguard in a typical medium/heavy BB fleet

[atomic abyss]

alsace is amongst the top UR BBs in terms of damage in short battles (90s)
she lacks the eDPS that vanguard has but makes up for it in damage

if it's shorter battles, she has the potential to outshine vanny

[pale rover]

is she usually the better pick in meta and arbiters? assuming the other 2 are the usual zwei and soyuz

[dim laurel]

What is a good research focus to start on for a newish player? also what does the research focus do?

[inland shoal]

PR4

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[slow fox]

Thorin spotted

[inland shoal]

It makes sure 3/5 slots at least are from that season

[atomic abyss]

i'd say yes, but they're close enough honestly

[inland shoal]

They're somewhat close
If you have some dps vanguard in there Vanny is probably still better

[pale rover]

I usually run plym helena hinden if I can survive and agir if not

[inland shoal]

Wrong I'm wearing stripes today

[plain saffron]

[dapper sail]

Hi guys, I can choose between UR New Jersey and UR Shinano, any advice about who to choose?

[sinful escarp]

shinano

[atomic abyss]

shinano

[round egret]

i noticed i equipped enigmata D as a secondary toolkit on one of my vanguard but i have no idea what is does

[dapper sail]

Thanks!

[subtle tinsel]

hi how to clear x-4? ii always shows that i need to d3estroy 1 ship

[atomic abyss]

hard mode? turn off clearing mode

[plain saffron]

it periodically emits strange sound during battle
yes it does nothing else

[subtle tinsel]

oh thx!

[plain saffron]

other than that one EX stage

[round egret]

fleet almost ready, anything i should improve on alsace?

[plain saffron]

depends on enemy/content that mk6 prob need to change to 406mm/50 mle

[round egret]

the ur crafted from my current gun?

[hollow sail]

no

[atomic abyss]

the mle50 is an AP gun

[plain saffron]

/wiki 406mm mle

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)

[round egret]

oh

can t get it, but one day for sure

[worldly pewter]

black shell is replaced by a +13 white shell
but if u don't have it yet then i guess the table gets the priority for plates
since it is just giga cracked

[plain saffron]

buy pr4 weapon bp in protocore shop
then again next month, now you have 1

[round egret]

[rapid grail]

any advice for speedrunning PR seasons on a new account?

Ships, gear, the whole shebang

[finite crag]

take your time

[atomic abyss]

ignore em till you're around w12 tbh

or at least w9
before that it's pretty inefficient

[round egret]

cause of oil cap right?

[atomic abyss]

yep

well if you wanna do it at w9, have to accept it's more of a side project than a main focus

i.e, don't go out of your way to modify your fleets to grind the exp for unlockin the ships

[sinful escarp]

also since you are new, you wont have prints to upgrade them anyways
so its better to take it slow and build up your fleet first

[atomic abyss]

w9-12 is pretty much fleet building focus

[round egret]

didn t start w13 yet but all i know if you can clear all the way to w12 with only 1 fleet

[atomic abyss]

technically you can clear even w15 with 1 fleet, but 1 fleeting anything beyond w12 is just not practical for most players, let alone a new one

[half plover]

is strasbourg a flagship or off flag?

[round egret]

i ll take notes cause i m far from having a fully well gear fleet, i don t have a single sextuple for aa or any gold bb gun equipped yet

[half plover]

asking for a friend. he got penny flag rn

[plain saffron]

what's official name for dorm coins again?

[hollow sail]

strasbourg barrage wants flag

[atomic abyss]

dormitory tokens iirc

[inland shoal]

decor tokens?

[atomic abyss]

oh yeah, decor token

[half plover]

ty

[plain saffron]

ouh decor token. thanks

[shell willow]

the meta fight supportive barrage is only when we fight our own meta or when helping others too?

[atomic abyss]

own meta only

[dusky narwhal]

Is getting a UR DD gun more important than the rainbow AA?

[jaunty vault]

meh, it depends

first UR DD gun is more important than first UR AA gun

after that, it depends

[atomic abyss]

depends on your priorities - to be clear

[dusky narwhal]

I have neither as of now so I'll get a DD gun first

[worldly pewter]

i m getting 2 AA before a DD
it depends on ur goals

[dusky narwhal]

I would like to clear W15 sometime but I want to get brest and shimanto to dev 30 before I do that

As of now I'm just farming to try and complete some PR series and get some fleet tech stuff

[faint kite]

is there a possibility to get Houston II from all three boss nodes in 15-4? or only the final boss node?

[cobalt rapids]

Yea, all bosses

[faint kite]

its confusing me because this was the rewards for the 2nd boss

[jaunty vault]

yea the game is wrong about that

[abstract solar]

i don't know what's wrong i can't do 14-2. mob fleet does alright although it looks like the vanguard does no dmg to the suicide boats and the ships that ram into main fleet.. boss fleet straight up dies to boss when she has like 20 bars left. i can take pics of all of my ships if needed or gear

[jaunty vault]

sounds about right

[atomic abyss]

yeah sounds about right

[abstract solar]

the fleets?

[atomic abyss]

looks like you randomly mashed ships together

[jaunty vault]

the fleets and your statement matches

[atomic abyss]

so the result you get matches the fleets you used

[abstract solar]

idk what i'm doing ehe

[atomic abyss]

for example - shinano is missing her IJN buff
uni and perseus should never be used together

[abstract solar]

why tho

[worldly pewter]

fellow dd enjoyer

[atomic abyss]

you launch 3 preloaded airstrikes at the start of battle
oh and preloaded BB salvo

most of the bombs will miss

[abstract solar]

i did manual

[worldly pewter]

manual and still fail

[abstract solar]

..

[atomic abyss]

also yeah, too many DDs - can't gun down suicide boats

[worldly pewter]

do u have AR+ and recon ?

[atomic abyss]

then there's no reason to even use perseus

[abstract solar]

the acv thing?

[atomic abyss]

perseus is shit once the 2 strikes are out

[elfin hollow]

Do you hate meowficer's skill or something? Most of them have their skills disabled.

[worldly pewter]

also we want to see what gear is on the ships

can u use the renhex tool ?

[abstract solar]

all of them?

[kind olive]

Who I should replace between these 4 for Wichita meta? Kearsarge and Biscuit are doing good at dammaging, but not the other 4. My Vanguards sometimes die faster within 20s time remaining

Im trying to do 1 run Meta. My average score with this is around 800k dammage

[abstract solar]

dk whats that

[worldly pewter]

mob first
on renhex tool should be enough
u can screenshot the depot with equipped on if u don't want to use the tool

[atomic abyss]

1 run is impossible with that fleet so

[abstract solar]

aight wait

[worldly pewter]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[kind olive]

well, Im hoping I could at least hit average 1m dammage run

and yes my current fleet is suck. that's why I ask here

[worldly pewter]

i think he has a little bit more than cat slots

but yeah invesing their position should be better

[atomic abyss]

i mean, the higher damage fleets need you to take greater risks lul

like, the best comp currently is kears, yk2, impla, ply/harb, sirius, helena

aka, you have no tank

[kind olive]

[crisp estuary]

[worldly pewter]

also isn't musasi a mob ship rather than a boss one in w14 ?

[tulip zenith]

Are face researches just grant donations but with a specific ship

[abstract solar]

alright this is the mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

that is, bad

[abstract solar]

[atomic abyss]

the only thing remotely passable is drake

for one, that fighter should never be used in campaign map
it has no interception, so that means it is unable to kill planes

[undone plover]

G are worse for ship blueprints but better for gear prints

face research gives specific prints and overall more ship prints
grant donation gives less ship prints and overall more gear prints

[atomic abyss]

sure this isn't w13 but the planes are not non-negligible

secondly, all DDs want HP auxes, not torp/evasion ones

thirdly, richy's main gun is fast but deals little damage

[abstract solar]

i have marco and champagne gun too

[tulip zenith]

Thx

[abstract solar]

for richy i mean

[atomic abyss]

richy's skill means she wants a HE gun so...

[abstract solar]

oh

[worldly pewter]

can i suggest using musasi for mob ?

[abstract solar]

i can take a screenshot of all my ships

there may be better ships

[atomic abyss]

i think it's better to create a thread, and yes dump your dock there

[abstract solar]

alright

Need help with 14-2

[civic crag]

Uh guys I don’t understand how lecture hall actually works can smone explain

[tulip zenith]

What should I buy with protocore after I got 50 plane bp

I have 1 champy gun and 1 of the gold plane

[atomic abyss]

when ships that are above level 100 are used in maps, they earn exp for lecture hall
the exp is then used to be converted into exp packs

[civic crag]

Is there like a rate/h or is it instantaneous

[atomic abyss]

Depends on level of your lecture hall
But it's a rate/h yes

[civic crag]

Dang ok

[atomic abyss]

Minimum 3 champagne guns

Unless you have a Soyuz gun
Then 2

[drifting pecan]

which one is preferable for dd slot on current event?

for napoli exp

[atomic abyss]

All are shit
So whichever you want

[drifting pecan]

i just notice it today, i didn't build any saredegna vanguard except duca

[atomic abyss]

No Pompeo?

[drifting pecan]

i do, but didn't raise her (and shes already max leveled)

[atomic abyss]

Then whichever ship

[tulip zenith]

For the event should I do normal or hard

[atomic abyss]

Hard

[civic crag]

Is there a way to get Perseus other than pulling for her

[undone plover]

no she is gacha only
there is WW on EN anni which will make it easier (u can designate 2 ships for rate up)
but it is not the highest priority and unless you know what u are doing I wouldnt do it (i.e unless u have a lot of coobs and know this wont hurt u)

[civic crag]

Oh right there’s the wishing thing

Thanks

[atomic abyss]

I mean, why do you even want Perseus

[civic crag]

Heal

[north gazelle]

Does the wishing well go with the event summon?

[atomic abyss]

Unicorn retro is better in that regard

[atomic abyss]

Wishing wells are their own separate build based on the permanent build pool
They often occur during event

[civic crag]

I alr maxed a unicorn retro

[north gazelle]

What chapter you are at?

[civic crag]

I nedd another heal

[atomic abyss]

Then raise Volga or Aquila

Or skip a healer entirely

[civic crag]

I cleared chapter 12 and I’m waiting to hit level 85 to beat chp 13

[atomic abyss]

You don't need healer for w12 anyways

[tame jungle]

if i'm using montpelier+aug, auxiliary gear (in this case gold rudder) also fulfills the gear requirement right?

[civic crag]

Yeah ik but like I need another carrier anyway

[north gazelle]

How long you been playing?

[civic crag]

Uhhhhhhh 1 year

[north gazelle]

Man nice

[atomic abyss]

Yeah rudder would count
I don't think aug would

[atomic abyss]

Raise some for tech then

[civic crag]

Wdym

[undone plover]

get indep from core shop

[civic crag]

Wait hang on I show u all my cvs and u tell me what I should raise

[tame jungle]

nono i mean that requirement only gets added when she gets her augment, so question only was abt the rudder. thanks anyway

[undone plover]

she will be relevant into ch15 and costs 0 cubes

[atomic abyss]

Sounds good

[civic crag]

Don’t ask me why hornet and taihou are level 100 I just got them first and raised them to 10p

[atomic abyss]

As said, grab independence from core shop
Raise Saratoga as well

[civic crag]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

You can even use painleve as a weaker healer

[north gazelle]

Saratoga good?

[atomic abyss]

Very very good

[atomic abyss]

Oh and consider Ark too, since you don't have August

[civic crag]

I not enough core

[civic crag]

Should I get august

I could like get her instantly

[atomic abyss]

You'll want to get the entirety of PR4 lol

[civic crag]

Oh PR4 good?

[undone plover]

u need some dockspace as well
pls tell me u did not waste your f2p gems for skins

[north gazelle]

Yeah I was wondering thar

[civic crag]

I heard like you can get 8m combat exp data packs from newbie missions

[civic crag]

Nah I whaled the skins

[north gazelle]

Nice

[undone plover]

you could but they are better off analyzed for protocore
not used to skip the xp grind
since the xp grind is very easy to do

[civic crag]

I never drop money to progress in a game

[civic crag]

But like it costs so much oil

[north gazelle]

Can i see your fleet for world 12

[undone plover]

u get like 4-5k oil per day
dw about oil
just grind ch12 which has oil cap

[civic crag]

Boss is 1 mob is 2

[north gazelle]

Is it recommended to farm for gear in certain stages?

[civic crag]

I don’t know what I’m doing I just see ship I like and I yeet it in

[atomic abyss]

Honestly w12 is soo easy anything works

[civic crag]

I’m reduced to doing commissions for oil

[atomic abyss]

No

You get gear from tech boxes as a new player

[civic crag]

Btw is there like a good way to get aux upgrade parts other than daily raids

[atomic abyss]

Otherwise, research and operation siren

[atomic abyss]

Continue to farm w12

[north gazelle]

I need steam catapult for my carriers

[atomic abyss]

Tech boxes

There's nowhere to farm gold catapults

[civic crag]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

As I said, new player get gear from tech boxes
When they're not as new, operation siren and research

[shell willow]

war archive should have catapults but not worth

[atomic abyss]

There is, but absolutely not worth

Drop rate is piss poor

[shell willow]

[civic crag]

Time to open my 40 eagle unions t4 boxes

[atomic abyss]

That's exactly what you do yeah

[civic crag]

Nvm fuck this shit I’m opening all 100 t4 boxes

I need catapults for unicorn

[north gazelle]

Is this good progress. 9th day of playing or am I doing something wrong

[atomic abyss]

Well

[civic crag]

Wtf I didn’t get a single one

[atomic abyss]

You may have issues with team comp building so

Catapults drop from any tech box

[civic crag]

I opened all of them

I got 1 purple pult and that’s it

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

You may want to look at these guides then

[civic crag]

Will there ever be any reason to keep purple gear btw

[atomic abyss]

Purple aviation tank work as substitutes

[atomic abyss]

Given a lot of the best poverty gear is purple, yes

[civic crag]

But other than that?

[civic crag]

But like I’m running out of depot space

[north gazelle]

Equip them to ships

[sleek spade]

some of it can be used for future crafting

[civic crag]

Oh wait I can use in gear lab

Time to minecraft

[sleek spade]

yes

but aux gear is not in lab

[atomic abyss]

There's just a lot of good purple gear

[sleek spade]

and u need mats from opsi...

[civic crag]

How do I grind opsi to get materials to craft

[atomic abyss]

You start by finishing the story for opsi

[civic crag]

Like at what point will I start getting useful shit

[atomic abyss]

It takes a while

If you have been neglecting opsi, you're gonna be stuck there for maybe a year before moving on

[civic crag]

wtf im still at chp 2-4

How many chapters are there

[atomic abyss]

Sorry, stuck grinding opsi for 1 year

Not completing the story in 1 year

Story has 5 chapters

[civic crag]

Huh then why need 1 year for 5 chapter

[atomic abyss]

You need 1 year to grind the stuff from opsi

[civic crag]

How does that work

[atomic abyss]

A good start would be completing the story

[civic crag]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

Then every month you will need to clear every section of the map once
Then clear hidden zones, abyssals, strongholds, which are the main source of the best mats

[sleek spade]

mmmm good mats

btw is it worth it to craft XSB2C as cope tenrai?

[atomic abyss]

Absolutely not

Unless you want to sink in gold plates to +13 it

Just use the same old purple helldiver

[civic crag]

Is ch12 hard mode anywhere close in difficulty to ch14

[sleek spade]

aaawww

[north gazelle]

Can i see the equips on your carriers?

[civic crag]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

So much easier

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

How about you refer to this instead

Because 1 year old player won't have great gear

[north gazelle]

Sure

I see

[abstract solar]

trying to get about 300k exp for ancho, who should i use for vanguard fleet?

[civic crag]

What the fuck I’m actually cooked

I only built enty the rest I just kinda eh

[atomic abyss]

Yeah the gear isn't good outside enty

[atomic abyss]

You too should refer to this

[civic crag]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

Have you never raised Portland for the rookie missions?

[abstract solar]

i have before but i think i retired her at some point

[atomic abyss]

No Laffey?

[abstract solar]

never really kept 4 stars

[atomic abyss]

Then you'll run out of gold bulins

Anyways, Bristol Montpelier Northampton 2
Or just use one of those already at 120/125

[abstract solar]

aren't northampton and allen good? they seem pretty high tier in the slaimuda tierlist

[atomic abyss]

They are
But I'm prioritising minimal resources

[abstract solar]

oh gotcha

[civic crag]

Wait so should I retrofit Saratoga

[atomic abyss]

If you have retrofitted Unicorn, Portland, and your starter already, it's worth considering

If you already have bought independence from the core shop, then I'd recommend independence first

[civic crag]

I’ve retrofitted like 10 ships already

[hollow sail]

retro sara is contingent on getting her augment as well

[civic crag]

Oh I have like 500 augment stones that shouldn’t be an issue

[late flame]

hope you also have 21k coins

[civic crag]

That’s what’s standing between me and retrofit Saratoga

[atomic abyss]

Maybe consider independence first then

[civic crag]

I don’t have enough core

Wait so between retrofit Saratoga and independence which is the better cv

[atomic abyss]

Independence used more late game
Although both are very good

[civic crag]

Ight time to retrofit Saratoga because to me yellow>purple

[atomic abyss]

Independence has retro too...

[civic crag]

Oh Fr?

[late flame]

gotta be fun when he finds out about Warspite

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[civic crag]

I alr finished warspite

[atomic abyss]

Indep retro is more important

[civic crag]

That’s where all my money went

[atomic abyss]

Well there goes a lot of resources

Including future URs

[civic crag]

Yea I’m acoustic

[civic crag]

? Wdym

[atomic abyss]

To get the item to retrofit warspite
You used specialised cores

The same specialised cores used to buy UR bulins

To MLB URs

[civic crag]

Oh but I have like 10k lying around it’s all good

[tired condor]

which ur ship to choose after getting 400 draws

[late flame]

ah to have that sweet innocence

[civic crag]

Wat

[atomic abyss]

10k is 2 bulins

Not enough for 1 UR

[atomic abyss]

Shinano

[civic crag]

+1 from cruise season

[tired condor]

shinano is betyer than nj and shimikaze?

[late flame]

yes

[atomic abyss]

Did you even touch your HMS Vanguard

[atomic abyss]

She's the only one still used at the top of the meta

[civic crag]

Uh

I didn’t bother lmao

[late flame]

bro sleeping on vanguard smh

[atomic abyss]

URs are the best ships in the game (except warspite)

Not sure why you're sleeping on them

[civic crag]

Yeah but I don’t need any more BBs

[civic crag]

That warspite part so true she is so fucking ass

[atomic abyss]

You need a full fleet of BBs for opsi

[civic crag]

Oh well time to MLB

[late flame]

his answer tells me he doesnt* know what vanguard (bb) does

[atomic abyss]

Let's see

[tired condor]

dam i didnt know warspite was a ur

[atomic abyss]

What BBs do you even have

Her retro is

[atomic abyss]

Who do you even have

[civic crag]

Uh

B2 NJ and VGD

[late flame]

not worth the resources, since she has been powercrept

[atomic abyss]

Are any of them mlb

[civic crag]

B2 and NJ are fully maxed

[atomic abyss]

So you can't MLB vanguard?

[civic crag]

Except for gear because I don’t play that much

[rapid grail]

does Hood's RLD buff affect everyone in the fleet

[civic crag]

Uh no

[atomic abyss]

All backliners

[plain saffron]

increase your Main Fleet's RLD by 20% (40%) for 8s.

[atomic abyss]

This aged really well

[rapid grail]

Lol, thanks a lot. Was doing AL JP progression so thought I'd ask here

[plain saffron]

[atomic abyss]

If you didn't retro Warspite, you'd have 3 UR bulins + 1 from cruise pass

And you'd have a MLB vanguard

[civic crag]

Oopsy

[atomic abyss]

So yeah you may want to consider popping by here more often

If you intend to push pass w13

[civic crag]

Yeah I don’t know what I’m doing I just play this game for fun lmao

[late flame]

i actually did consider retrofit warspite for fun if manjuu decides to let me whale UR bulins

[atomic abyss]

So stick with w12 and your events then

[civic crag]

Until when tho

[atomic abyss]

I mean

If you intend to just play this game for fun, then forever I guess

[civic crag]

I wanna finish it tho

[atomic abyss]

W15 takes 2 years of concentrated effort

[civic crag]

Dafuq

[north gazelle]

They will add a new world next year

[atomic abyss]

w15 is the current end game of AL

[late flame]

just do /w15 in #bot-spam

[atomic abyss]

Dude doesn't even have the gear for w13

Let alone w14 or 15

[civic crag]

Am I gonna have to clear opsi before w13

[atomic abyss]

You don't have to farm opsi that much for w13

[bright tusk]

for combat purpose, who's the best between halford, daisen, and bayard?

[late flame]

not required but it helps

[atomic abyss]

But for 14 and 15 lol

[sinful escarp]

getting 1pc of gear for it takes a while, multiply it by the number of ships that needs it

[civic crag]

Ok time to go back to ML bye everyone

[atomic abyss]

All are just "good" and not expected to make an impact on the current meta

[north gazelle]

Ml?

[atomic abyss]

So it doesn't matter which you go for

[civic crag]

mobile legends

[north gazelle]

Mlbb

[civic crag]

The MOBA everyone keeps shitting on but still plays

[sinful escarp]

w15 is just not really a requirement
you can just keep your progress at w13 or something

[atomic abyss]

He said he wants to complete the game so

[north gazelle]

Ah its a fun game. It becomes problem when you lose 10 in a row

[civic crag]

Ok I’ll just do w15 if I can

[atomic abyss]

You can't

You can't even clear 13

Not with the gear you showed here

[civic crag]

How’s my BB gear tho hang on

[north gazelle]

Let bro face the plane spam

[sinful escarp]

and azur lane is not a competitive game, you can just do what you want at your own pace

[atomic abyss]

If your CV gear, which is arguably the most important for w13-15 is trash

No amount of BB gear will save you

If your goal is w15
Then you have to put in the effort, no matter how slow or fast

[atomic abyss]

That's why I said it's probably better for you to sit back in w12

[civic crag]

Oh ok

[keen sable]

i'm scared

[atomic abyss]

Bismarck decent all round, NJ trash main gun

[civic crag]

Yeah Idh a good main gun for NJ

[atomic abyss]

The best non gear lab/event BB guns are purple

[peak crater]

What are those +9 and +8

[keen sable]

the one you got for free for clearing 2-4. a purple mk6 or something

[civic crag]

Is this better

[late flame]

not using staag or even hazemeyer though, man

[peak crater]

For light armor

[civic crag]

Gear enhancement level

[atomic abyss]

Yes it's already much better

[keen sable]

it's too good

[high latch]

Just keep on farming gold plates along exp/PR ships and levelling your whole dock, its a game of patience

[keen sable]

make it worse and yet better

[civic crag]

Ok thanks for the advice guys

[atomic abyss]

But yeah this is the main issue

I would say, take it easy, rest back in w12 and enjoy the game as is

[peak crater]

Yeah should be atleast +10 expect the main gun in NJ your first showed because it’s bad.

[civic crag]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

If and when you want to actually work towards your goal of "completing the game"
Feel free to come back here for a full break down

[hallow iron]

Hmm anyone here acrually use bellona as an ara? Was thinking of building her if next month shop refresh isn't a Cl selector (for sirius)

[atomic abyss]

Sirius isn't even ARA

[civic crag]

Wait one last thing which planes here are good if any

[keen sable]

currently use? no

[civic crag]

Thanks lots

[atomic abyss]

Seafangs, hellcat
That's all

[high latch]

hellcat

rest are filler till you get better

[keen sable]

hell cat sea fang that's it. come back on 15 for the messershit

[lime lichen]

Who to mlb next? Or should I wait for next UR?

[atomic abyss]

What are your other URs

[hallow iron]

Wait who is ara then, I was digging old massage and found her as an option

[atomic abyss]

Kazagumo

[keen sable]

air raid assistance

[high latch]

the btd destroyer plane is ok for gear lab crafting

[pearl quarry]

What do i do with elite cat box

[atomic abyss]

Sirius' skill stacks with ARA

[lime lichen]

Shinano and NJ are MLB

[atomic abyss]

Alsace then

[keen sable]

open then

[hallow iron]

Is she obtainable in selector

[atomic abyss]

No

[pearl quarry]

I cant

[atomic abyss]

Unlock the cattery at commander level 40

[late flame]

whats your commander level?

[pearl quarry]

19

[lime lichen]

Wait shoot I also have vanguard

[late flame]

ignore it for now

[pearl quarry]

Ok

[lime lichen]

Alsace or van?

[atomic abyss]

Alsace then Soyuz

[lime lichen]

Aight

[atomic abyss]

Vanguard's strength depends on how strong everyone else is

[civic crag]

Wait I just read through Sara and indep skills and aren’t Sara’s skills much better

[atomic abyss]

Much more damage oriented
Much less support oriented

She's dropped in later maps because she can't counter enemy planes as well

[keen sable]

did you read all of sara's skills? like her aug?

[civic crag]

She only has 1 support skill no?

[civic crag]

Yea

[hallow iron]

Is kazagumo available in standard pool?

[atomic abyss]

Independence can boost carrier reloads across different fleets
She can also launch her airstrike earlier

[hallow iron]

Oo that's nice

[keen sable]

it's not nice if you decide to go do something about it

[civic crag]

So it depends if I want an offensive or balanced main fleet?

[atomic abyss]

No, it depends on what content you're doing

Independence is almost mandatory for w15

[hollow sail]

you also only need 1 wyvern to get most of indep's potential out, while you'd need 2 tenrai for sara

[atomic abyss]

And is much more useful for w13 too

[civic crag]

Oh

[atomic abyss]

Because she can counter planes
Saratoga cannot

[keen sable]

they're both about the same in practice. what indy does is transfer current fleet power into other fleets

[civic crag]

I cant really differentiate just by reading the skill descriptions so I’ll take your word for it

[north gazelle]

Is the level 70 commander pack worth it?

[keen sable]

assuming you're pretty far under 70...

[north gazelle]

I am level 48

[lime lichen]

About how many shells do you need?

[keen sable]

a few

[high latch]

at least 5 pairs i'd say, enough to equip your BBs for 4 teams in opsi

[north gazelle]

In event about how much points I should do. I am newbie and can do only b3

Which is 80 point per run

[high latch]

a bit more for opsi for ease of use when you can afford it

[atomic abyss]

3 white shells for a new player
Maybe 2 black shells
You can get more later if needed

[keen sable]

as much as you can but a better strategy is to rush for HT1 using campaign

that should actually be easily doable if you do buy the command level boost. and maybe a little extra effort to just lift yourself into HT2 and cost limit

[civic crag]

Y’all Should have gotten the admiralty table last week

[keen sable]

still can if you have points leftover

[north gazelle]

Wait ht2 doesn't have oil cap

[civic crag]

Idt people gonna have 10k points left dawg imma be real

[north gazelle]

My fleets are only level 80 and require a lot of oil(61 per run)

[civic crag]

Damn I remember when my fleets didn’t need the whole of the middle east’s reserves to deploy

[north gazelle]

Ok thanks

[high latch]

I see oil reduction available in HT2

[keen sable]

you can't do it as is though. note the L95 boss

but that's why the strategy I'm suggesting is to go get xp efficiently using campaign and then focus on HT2 after a few days

[elfin hollow]

what do you unlock first? of space, dorm, skill training or dock space

[undone plover]

1 dorm slot
2nd floor
Dock space

[high latch]

Dorm then docks

[elfin hollow]

Thank you

[spring bolt]

or 💳 to get them all

[silk helm]

How do I beat this boss keeps healing

[north gazelle]

Ok so I do the campaign to level up my ships and then try ht2

[undone plover]

Use bb fleet to knock it down to ~40 hp

Go in with triple CV fleet
Hold airstrikes until 6/6 then fullsend and pray it is enough dmg

Otherwise u will need to just outdps the heal

[hollow sail]

get it down to as close to 30% as possible then let the fight end. use a new fleet or refresh the same fleet you used by going to the bottom right and fighting the mob that's there exactly for that purpose. enter fight and finish the rest, or make sure you get past 30% this time then one last fight to close it out

[nova halo]

does the spearfish good for mobbing? the rainbow one in gearlab

[north gazelle]

Which boss is this?

[undone plover]

It is good yeah but very expensive for what it does. Only craft it if u have an excess of ordnance reports and no prio for other gear

[spring bolt]

and using subs will make it easier

[undone plover]

C4 abyssal in opsi
U can see the name on top

[north gazelle]

I didn't unlock opsi

Sorry

Is there any guide for opsi as a newbie

[undone plover]

You are new so it is fine
Can you even start it?
If u can you should do it since it gives good materials for gear

Focus on finishing the opsi story
The red exclamation marks on the map

Then clear everything else after it

[sinful elk]

Chat is napoli gun good

[undone plover]

U dont need much of a guide tbh
Just use the same fleets u use for campaign for now
Later on when u have options u can work on getting better opsi fleets

[north gazelle]

I have only a single fleet at level 70

[nova halo]

okay

[undone plover]

Then it is probably too early to care about opsi
Get to chapter 9
Build a second fleet

When opsi unlocks at commander level 60 just try and do as much as u can

[atomic abyss]

So this is my current 13-4H fleet
I've gotten it to clearing mode ( )so I'm working on optimising the boss fleet

Any tips on how I can optimise the boss fleet (or what I can throw for cross fleet in mob)

[undone plover]

Probably niche anti medium CL gun
But ply gun exists so I doubt it will be used much

I am not a vanguard weapon expert tho
Too complicated for me

[keen sable]

Yes

[north gazelle]

When should I build the second fleet?

[sinful elk]

[atomic abyss]

As said, w9

Is where you can start looking into a second fleet

[undone plover]

When u get to ch9 come back here and ask for recommendations for second fleet

[north gazelle]

Ok

[keen sable]

unicorn + 5, finish the story asap

if you're stuck in ops, have absolutely nothing else to do, and are bored, farm C1

[north gazelle]

C1?

[keen sable]

corrosion level 1

[north gazelle]

Ok

Thanks

[undone plover]

Can you replace uni and alsace to try and get green ACV?
I stopped at 13-2h so idk if green air is feasible on 13-4h tbh

[atomic abyss]

In at superiority currently
So go for supremacy is what you're saying?

[keen sable]

are you sure it's not green inside?

[undone plover]

Oh I see
I mean might as well but AS is good enough I guess

[atomic abyss]

It's at AS currently

[sinful elk]

Daisen gun is also niche too right

[atomic abyss]

Yep

[undone plover]

Iirc niche usage on musashi yeah

[sinful elk]

Heard people saying its knockoff georgia gun

[slender heart]

What is knockoff means?

[undone plover]

Like a cheap version

[keen sable]

if by knockoff you mean does 25% less damage per salvo while being 10% slower then sure. it's a slightly improved mk5

[viscid swift]

it's just worse than the 457 in every way

the only reason it's notable at all is because it's IJN

[atomic abyss]

Musashi L basically

[spring bolt]

it can't be used as a downgraded 457, too slow

[high latch]

Btw, how effective is Napoli so far ? About to finish Nakhimov and i'm hesitating between Napoli and Bayard.

[atomic abyss]

She is not gonna be comparable to current tank options unless she's d25

[spring bolt]

unlocking is like the 1st step of 100 so, pick the one you like more

but, on the other hand, new french ships has exp boost, so it's probably better to farm bayard exp during this event

[high latch]

Yeah, i'll do Bayard next then. Got a liking for french ships anyway hehe.

[sharp socket]

is twin 406 mk4 any good or just intermediary to 457

[echo vector]

I can't find anything worth of note on strasbourgh's number 6 and 9 here. Feels like just regular tap conversation. Anybody got input for no.6 and 9 ?

[atomic abyss]

That's something you're better off asking #al-general

[echo vector]

Okay

[soft raft]

#al-general is more horny inclined to dive into the little details of skins than most of the regulars here

[spring bolt]

come on guys, that is legit gameplay

[echo vector]

I know it's part of the gameplay

Lololololol

[viscid swift]

considering a good chunk of us here are F2P, skins aren't exactly our forte

[keen sable]

i think it's fine, but you'll get some visceral reactions to it here. that being said i don't have one although my alt isn't what i would call poor ||i'm definitely talking about stras and not mk4 yeah||

[atomic abyss]

Gen is where you can find the whales that'll have skins yes

Either that or Reddit

[cobalt rapids]

gph is f2p

[slender heart]

It's too fast, used in pvp tho

[sharp socket]

wdym too fast

[slender heart]

The reload is too fast, you can't sync it

[sharp socket]

so i can use it for mob bb?

then when i get enough for 457 just upgrade

[soft raft]

I wouldnt go out of my way to raise that when IJN Twin 410 is right there for the same function

[sharp socket]

or dont bother and just stick to champagne gun

[slender heart]

Stick to champy
Save your gold

[polar lion]

Which is better? Wyvern or La9?

[soft raft]

They dont even share the same slot
Wyvern is a TB and La9 is a Fighter

[spring bolt]

in rare cases for carriers with multi funciton slots, wyvern has interception and good for mob, la9 can't intercept and better for bosses

[icy mountain]

which armor type does fdg excel at?

[south sequoia]

Technically light armor due to her defensive barrage, but she doesn't really have a preferred armor type since she is more shelling based

Also don't think about her defensive barrage all too much if the boss isn't getting too close for her to proc it
If you wanna see a fight that actively procs it you have to wait for san diego challenge mode

[polar lion]

Aight thanks

[signal pollen]

before I craft three ryuusei, can I assume all boss fleet cv will run one slow support and three ryuusei?

[sinful elk]

Chat is bremmerton worth to up lvl 125?

[soft raft]

the plane loadout varies on timings
You may end up using the Junkers TB or the VIT Mode Change or other planes to adjust timing as needed

[sinful elk]

What about Enty?

[signal pollen]

Timing? I thought all cv deployed planes at the same time?

[viscid swift]

what no
CVs individually have their own airstrike cooldown times

you want to sync your CVs to whoever is slowing

hence why Saiuns, Ju-87ds, and Ryuusseis are all timing sidegrades of each other]

[signal pollen]

Oh. How do I check the cooldowns for timing?

[earnest flare]

second mk7 or ur dd gear lab gun first?

[soft raft]

UR DD gun

[viscid swift]

tap on the gear tab assuming your CVs have no reload budding skills or use a calculator

[polar lion]

Which is better to craft? Wyvern or Spearfisk?

[atomic abyss]

Wyvern is a far more important gear to craft earlier on

[soft raft]

Spearfish is also more expensive

[atomic abyss]

Because it helps with pushing w13-15

Don't take that to mean spearfish is bad
It's just not as high priority

Where planes are not an issue, the spearfish is better
Unfortunately, planes are an issue in campaign

[frank pulsar]

iirc wasnt spearfish better than wyvern in w15? provided you have sufficient aa from other sources

[warm flax]

Can I skip the ship from event shop?

[atomic abyss]

You can, but usually that's not recommended

[signal pollen]

Is it the thing that says 22.20/s

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[echo adder]

When will the 6th anniversary be?

[ornate narwhal]

how do i get core data?

[vale spindle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource you will get less than listed here cause earlier stages

but locations are the same

[inland shoal]

mid aug

[vale spindle]

The update will likely be the Thursday after the stream

[viscid swift]

what exactly were you using to try to clear SP in the first place

you tried one fleeting?

[lean lava]

What does that mean ?