gameplay-help

[plain saffron]

Math guide

[agile sky]

if a drop ship is not boss exclusive, am i better off blasting every escort i see? Will that save a bit more oil? Or does the boss stage have slightly better rate?

[viscid swift]

No

Because the boss is the only node to guarantee a ship drop

[vale spindle]

you can if you want, but the oil efficiency gain is negligable and you lose oil efficiency on the clearing rewards which are significantly more valuable

[plain saffron]

You save slightly more oil but in return you have to manual, and lower clearing rewards

[wary timber]

Or I could build it for Helena which is using the twin 114mm as a secondary gun and then give that twin 114 to another DD that needs it

[agile sky]

i choose to be lazy then lol.

Thnx!

[vale spindle]

ingraham has better priority for it than helena

[viscid swift]

Helena would also probably not be the highest priority recipient of the 100 kai

[wary timber]

That's only till I get Sandy into a level where she can fight

[viscid swift]

You have 9 UR main gun designs already?

[wary timber]

I'm missing like 1 which isn't an issue in maybe an hour or 2

[viscid swift]

Did you convert them?

From selectors

[wary timber]

Leftovers from my 1st Wyvern yea

[viscid swift]

Should have started saving for Wyvern number 2

[hollow gust]

I only have 2 rainbow plane

[wary timber]

Dosent help when I don't have a Firebrand to begin with

[stark quiver]

core is an option

[viscid swift]

UR design plans will be by far the biggest limiting factor even more than electronics for crafting UR gear

[wary timber]

I don't even have enough electronics or cores to get one

[novel condor]

You can make them wdym

[stark quiver]

Damn bro

[novel condor]

Well back to grinding you go

[stark quiver]

Happens to me a lot too, after a month of grinding only 100 electronics

And literally 1 piece of ur gear would eat that up

[wary timber]

And u end up having hundreds of purple ones instead

[plain saffron]

Are attack pvp fleet cross device?

[calm rose]

I think so, recently i upgraded my phone and its the same fleet. But correct me if im wrong gph

[hollow gust]

Yes

[plain saffron]

Thanks

[brisk shard]

is this gun worth +13?

[hollow gust]

Not gun but yes

[calm rose]

thats a torp but yes

[brisk shard]

ok

[plain saffron]

Pvp rank update on relogin right not hourly

*leaderboard

[hollow gust]

99% sure it's relog

[plain saffron]

Thanks

[woeful laurel]

when's the next UR supposedly?

[atomic abyss]

...next UR event is this week

[plain saffron]

Vanny rerun next maint

[atomic abyss]

Next new UR is, likely around JP's anniversary in September

[plain saffron]

Hms Vanguard

[stark quiver]

Are all UR events 3 ships in pool and 1 milestones, minus shop

[atomic abyss]

We won't know if that's the case until Shima comes out this week

[plain saffron]

Bis zwei is 6 ships

Or 5, I don't remember but extra 1 ship

[atomic abyss]

Sorry I misunderstood

Poorly worded question

[plain saffron]

If you mean permanent all UR is in both heavy and special it's confirmed by dev, idr jp or cn

[stark quiver]

~~ my english bad~~

[merry trench]

If a gun has a 2x3 Rnd shooting profile and a Volley Time of 0.15 seconds, does that 0.15 incur twice or is that for the entire firing animation?

[light trail]

which one should i get first? im at the point where i dont need more high priority core data shop things and i have chang chun (not yet retro'd tho)

[rain vine]

missile

[light trail]

ty

[sweet delta]

2x3 on the wiki means 2 volleys of 3 bullets, so the Volley Time is just the time between the two volleys.
If you meant 3x2, then Volley Time is the total time between the first volley and the last volley, so Volley Time / 2 between volleys

[light trail]

oh wait i'd have to buy their retro items too. is chang chun worth spending 1000 UR cores on?

[merry trench]

If there was a 3x3 salvo, would it
shoot three rounds, wait for VT to expire
shoot three rounds, wait for VT to expire
shoot three rounds, begin reload countdown
?

Lots of questions sorry just trying to ensure I understand how it works

[sweet delta]

VT/2

[merry trench]

Oh okay

[sweet delta]

and yes, reload begins after the last volley shoots

if there is 5x1, then VT is the time from first to fifth volley, meaning that there is VT/4 between each volley

[merry trench]

so VT is the ABSOLUTE time taken to complete the entire animation. If you had a 100x1 salvo with a VT of 0.15 it would shoot like a gatling gun

Thanks a bunch!
Another question: Kronk has a skill that increases her secondary slot's efficiency by 45%. She has a 55% efficient slot baseline, does this raise it to 100% efficiency or is it multiplicative?

[crimson glacier]

all buffs are additive

[vale spindle]

is alvitr barrage flag locked to a significant amount

[sweet delta]

not at all

[vale spindle]

[modern aurora]

What's the fleet comp for an oil-friendly farming team?

[hollow gust]

Farming in world with oil cap

[novel condor]

Just reach the oil cap stages tbh, world 9 and above usually

[modern aurora]

and for war archives?

[crisp wadi]

Why you need WA in the first place?

[plain saffron]

Also oil cap on D1-3

[modern aurora]

Guaranteed ships on D3 and blueprints

[plain saffron]

There could be multiple reason

[zinc turret]

did help also x2 the D3 clear times at WA ?

[plain saffron]

Fleet tech, collection, waifu, some good ship, gear skin, story, guaranteed equip drop. Pick one

2x everything except number of run

60 is number of run so nope

[zinc turret]

i see

[ancient trout]

How to scrap Augmented (Special) gear from Depot, i had too much common gear & i cant scrap them unlike normal gear. 🤷

[inner delta]

use as upgrade fodder

[plain saffron]

Upgrade good one, feed bad one

[stark quiver]

How to get more fortune meta crystals

[plain saffron]

Wait for them to add another way to get them permanently

Also can we share dorm template with other people?

[silver lintel]

Fortm isnt meta anymore, blame alsace

[stark quiver]

oh shit, let’s just say I have have used all of my meta books things for her

[silver lintel]

Can i start cubing at 900 cubes

[inner delta]

idk can you? what do you feel

is it enough for you or not

[hollow gust]

900 is , expecially if you still don't have all the URs

[silent latch]

is bristol overall good

[hollow gust]

She is only used for very very specific circumstances, if you don't know then , then she is meh for you

[silent latch]

what about kazagumo

[hollow sail]

very good

[silent latch]

ok

[warm flax]

Good CV buffer

[clever sun]

What is hit stat?

[crimson glacier]

counters evasion stat

[clever sun]

Is heinrich need hit stat?

[crimson glacier]

no

[clever sun]

Ok

[zinc turret]

tank only need hp and eva , damage is just bonus

[plain saffron]

/accuracy

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Accuracy determines the chances of hitting or missing the enemy. It is affected by several stats, such as attacker's Hit, defender's Evasion, and Evasion Rate, as well as Luck stat of both. Full maths and factors behind it can be seen here.

Same factors also affect Critical Hit chances, maths behind which can be found here.

[woeful laurel]

okay thank you

[silent latch]

takao or prinz eugen

[inner delta]

portland

[silent latch]

already done portland

[inner delta]

then you don't need either 2 of those

[silent latch]

ok

[thorny bay]

uhhh, how do i get out

[inner delta]

press exit on the bottom scren

[thorny bay]

or exit angle

[plain saffron]

You can't use that to exit hidden zone

[iron meteor]

is nagato for boss fleeting?

[atomic abyss]

She is for extremely niche boss comps with Hakuryuu and Shinano for specific meta fights

Completely outclassed anywhere else

[iron meteor]

oh

i dont have new jersey idk who else to add with musashi and shinano

[crimson glacier]

well who do you have

[crimson glacier]

is that musashi even worth using

[atomic abyss]

If you don't have bulins to MLB her
It's not worth tbh

[iron meteor]

oh

[atomic abyss]

You unironically have a better boss fleet in Monarch Duke of York and Howe lol

[crimson glacier]

id have shinano in there

[atomic abyss]

Fair

[iron meteor]

aight ty

[clever lance]

Fleet help

[inland shoal]

Soo do yall have MLB Michita by now?

[sweet merlin]

Does w 14 drop cog array

[inland shoal]

No

Cog arrays only drop from daily

[warm flax]

How's the new fighter against heavy armor?

[sweet merlin]

Damn

[inland shoal]

Best

[round maple]

How to unlock missions? :/

[frank pulsar]

have you completed opsi story yet

[inland shoal]

The answer is no

[zinc turret]

clear chapter 4 opsi's campaign

[inland shoal]

Follow the red !

[warm flax]

Best plane or best fighter?

[inland shoal]

Best fighter

[frank pulsar]

on single target

[crimson glacier]

so basically best outside of campaign

[ocean shard]

I'm sad I probably won't reach sirens until after wichita's gone

[zinc turret]

hhmm aint ended meta showdown will going to dossier latter ?

[ocean shard]

you're askin the wrong newbie lol

[fresh gale]

hi what is halford and bayard's 120 tech bonus?

[tame jungle]

according to wiki, both are +1 EVA

[fresh gale]

thanks!

[honest stirrup]

I have a question about researches. I know the H researches that costs cubes are the best for ships and they're more optimised at blue rarities, but is the latter part also true for cognition researches (D, that cost coins)?
Do I need to focus on blue cognition over purple and gold cognition or is it only a H research thing

[iron meteor]

whats this?

[zinc turret]

ended event

[iron meteor]

oh rip

[zinc turret]

its ok all u miss is just best gold torp

[inland shoal]

It's mostly a thing for cube researches. For other researches shorter is better if you would actually prefer a different research, but if you do want the research it depends a little. For ships I think the results were that shorter is a little bit better. But in exchange you ofc only get it for shorter, which isn't great if you really want the research

And for G researches the picture isn't as clear anymore at all

[steady beacon]

Trust the G4 conspiracy

[whole crypt]

thanks but they're already 120 and gone

[whole crypt]

shorter researches may give you better prints per time but you're not guaranteed the ship's face showing up again after refresh so it's not exactly clear cut

some people prefer taking longer researches for DR faces because of higher guarantee

[hallow iron]

What's the chances to get gold retro mats from research? Trying to think wether it's worth doing gold research for retrofit

[whole crypt]

not worth burning cubes for

at the end of the day retrofit prints are things you end up with massive excesses of

if you push cubing it should only be for rushing ships and coping for chips

[ocean shard]

Just be like me and trust in catte showing up

(there's a second purple one that wasn't part of this. And hilariously she's closer to being build able for me than literally any of the PR2-6 botes)

[crimson glacier]

why are you posting this here

[whole crypt]

basic research is 🚮

[ocean shard]

Mostly as a springboard for "what the hell do I focus on for researches instead of throwing them at whatever"

[whole crypt]

the focus depends on what your goals are with the series

[crimson glacier]

your research picks are kinda awful for most ppl who look for advice

[whole crypt]

the more endgame oriented folks who want their 4-5 La-9s by PR8 are mostly focusing gear at this point

[hallow iron]

Ngl I'm a very impatient guy XD, I just need 1 more retro for fdg

But understandably, rates for retro on those cubes research are low and not worth

[whole crypt]

have you bought from medal shop already?

I would honestly recommend spending the 100 medals over gambling cubes for this

[hallow iron]

My unlucky arse only got those retro print from medal shop 💀

[whole crypt]

well all I can say is patience pays off for AL

[hallow iron]

When will they implement pity for hard stages

Giglb 1 retro every week plz

[ocean shard]

When would y'all suggest to start on operation siren in earnest?

[whole crypt]

as early as you can manage

[ocean shard]

I have like 4? level 100 ships atm and I'm not sure the rest of my mlb ships will do much there with what I've witnessed in there so far

[whole crypt]

4 what

[ocean shard]

(accidentally hit enter instead of the question button whoops)

[whole crypt]

in that case you probably aren't in a good position to push through story for resets, but I do recommend spending up what AP you have to repeat at least C4 zones, better C5 if you can manage

[elfin hollow]

Hello, is the website of tech stats still alive? The thing where we can filter Faction, Role, Stats given for level 120, build, or max lb?

[whole crypt]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/ works for me

[ocean shard]

I can't even reliably clear 2 C1 stages without going back to port lmao

[whole crypt]

then you likely have a gear issue

[elfin hollow]

Nice thanks, I forgot its name

[whole crypt]

where are you for main campaign

[atomic abyss]

or lack of a healer

[ocean shard]

I just unlocked 8-1 a week ago or two ago and just never got around to going in there trying to do the event

[hushed dawn]

How good is Centaur with her new augment?

[atomic abyss]

not good enough to be any more relevant than she already is (so not really)

too restrictive on team comps

[whole crypt]

with lv100 ships you should be working towards ch9, if you have trouble progressing might want to get your ships and gear checked out

[atomic abyss]

best you're getting is impla centaur ark kai

[whole crypt]

if you didn't use Centaur before the augment you won't start using her for the augment

[hushed dawn]

Guess I'm saving up the coins then for now.

[ocean shard]

oh. Granted idk what to do with gear, but I'm tryin to enhance my ships as much as I can manage at least. I think I might be fine for ch9? will find out tomorrow

[strange sphinx]

[wary timber]

Remind me again... Flapjacks are better at intercepting than the Tigercat and Sea Hornet right

[steady beacon]

Ye

[wary timber]

But their bomb payloads are basically the same right

[hollow sail]

equal payload

[steady beacon]

Exactly the same, yep

[hollow sail]

only difference is reload/flight speed/crash damage

[wary timber]

So if I wanted to maximise bombing damage which is better

[hollow sail]

the damage is the same, if you want to damage faster, then sea hornet is the fastest (but it is not at all worth building them, it's not even really worth building tigercats much either, also the next event will have farmable sea hornets)

[turbid dawn]

Am I missing a lot of NP+SN ships or is there just not many to choose from?

[wary timber]

Wait really?

[hollow sail]

yes really

[whole crypt]

more importantly they're faster by enough to actually give you faster launches anyway

[dusk maple]

You're missing some. Those unleveled ships give good tech anyway, just use them.

[spring bolt]

there are like, 58 NP+SN ships in total, not including new DRs

[wary timber]

Ah I see. Map D2

[strong tartan]

You're missing a few but I'm assuming this is for Nakhimov research you honestly should be fine using what you have

[turbid dawn]

Yeah I already have max FP for BBs I think it's the reason I haven't levelled them 2 yet

[whole crypt]

this is literally how little difference it makes between the 3 2x1000lb bomb fighters

[rose cosmos]

Brest is a must have right? I just unlocked both her and bayard

[whole crypt]

good to have but not must

at some point she's just another CB

[wary timber]

Then ill have Enty's VF-17 Corsiar squadron replaced with Flapjacks

[hollow sail]

your hunting bow needs some augment conversion stones

[whole crypt]

I have plenty I just can't be bothered

[dusk maple]

max BB FP tech is +87, you're not maxed

[steady beacon]

Yep, Litto, Andrea, Gangut are all FP

[dusk maple]

no Roma & Sevastopol either, event limited ships

[wary robin]

fount this one on cn https://www.bilibili.com/opus/954663490913566720?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0
".....so it is likely that the first 5 bullets of the barrage will not cause any damage, and the last 5 bullets are fine because of the extra 0.1 second delay."
Is it gona be a problem?

[steep estuary]

Just wondering roughly how much oil do you guys spend for 1 DR ship exp farm?

[left gull]

Out of kron musashi mogador alsace uvh what should be my prio for ur bulins

[inland shoal]

What is this about?

Ah Nakhimov

[steep estuary]

It depends on what other UR ships u have

[left gull]

That's the only ur ships i have rn aside brest

[steep estuary]

Oh my bad I thought you mean what UR ship should u prioritise beside those ships

[left gull]

Nah im looking for who i should prio first

[eager mulch]

musashi or Alsace

[shell willow]

you should probably show what other bbs u have

[steep estuary]

For me I’ll choose Musashi and Alsace first. If ur vanguard is weak I’ll also go for Kron

[hallow iron]

Which one from what i have is BiS for FdG

[eager mulch]

Purple mk6 or prototype triple 406

[steep estuary]

But at the end of the day, you will still be maxing all of them out

[wary robin]

What you think about it ?

[left gull]

These are my bbs rn

[eager mulch]

Alsace then

[shell willow]

just finish alsace

[inland shoal]

I am still calculating

[steep estuary]

Yea Aslace is good

Can’t be wrong

[hallow iron]

I forgot what's the reason we use ap again?

Is it for heavy armor enemy?

[shell willow]

heavy and medium

[atomic abyss]

med and heavy

[hallow iron]

Ok thx

[inner cobalt]

I'm new to this game and I managed to get a ship to 90% Affinity. How do I get her to 100%

[inland shoal]

So idk where they got 75 from, the aim range seems to be 80.
This means it will fire at a distance of 80. Then 0.3s delay means the plane still moves 30 units before dropping the torpedo, so the distance is 50 if the target is right in front. If the target is at a sharp angle for some reason the distance is somewhere between 50 and 80. Plane movement logic should prevent sharp angles, but idk how good it is at actually doing that

[steady beacon]

@inland shoal , is the weird bug with Wichita META's Ashen Might still occurring?
If so, CN patch notes suggest they are fixing it in the coming maint

[wary timber]

What's a good gun for Roon btw

[inland shoal]

Yes

[blazing shale]

Sortie

[inner cobalt]

I'm guessing I should have her be the MVP a lot?

[blazing shale]

No

MVP is for 1:1 fleets mostly

[inner cobalt]

Oh I see. Thank you so much for the info! Gotta sortie Eugen a lot haha

[inland shoal]

So yeah, the angle required between plane direction and line connecting plane to target to completely miss is uhh arccos(5/6) = 33.56° for the first torp and arccos(4/6) = 48° for the second torp I believe

Assuming the plane continues those 30 units in a straight line and that the target doesn't move

(If it moves your torps are gonna miss anyway )

[eager mulch]

nah, id win

[wary timber]

Worth for Roon or something else would be better

[inland shoal]

Also this does not include hit box size shenanigans which should reduce the numbers slightly / increase the necessary angles

[iron meteor]

is this guaranteed gems?

[inland shoal]

No

[tame jungle]

but do it anyway

[inland shoal]

Btw when you use Béarn META in OpSi, do you get the "Flickering Light - Béarn" banner popup at the start of the battle?

[inland shoal]

Eh idk if I'd say worth it

IF you want it you can do it ig, it doesn't cost too important mats, even though you're kinda poor

[wary timber]

In terms of plates yes

[kind needle]

Any problems on the fleet or no? (Kinda want to put alsace but she’s 102 and plymouth but she’s dev 22)

[blissful hamlet]

will a 2nd gaming table worth +13?

[calm rose]

@inland shoal does skill get cut off if it stacks too high? Etc too many skills activate at once? If not i dont see the "flickering light"

[inland shoal]

Yes, but usually just in the way that all the banners start to be on top of each other so you can't see them anymore

[warm flax]

What do the armor mods numbers mean?

[inland shoal]

Atm my theory is that they use some special function to display buffs that start at the start of battle and it doesn't register OpSi specific buffs properly

[warm flax]

I mean are they added to the formula or something

[inland shoal]

Sure, you usually don't need that many aux plates anyway

[inland shoal]

They are a multiplier in the dmg formula

/wiki Damage Calculation

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations

[frank pulsar]

think of it as a % modifier
e.g. base dmg (150) x medium armour modifier (1.4) = final dmg (210)
this is extremely simplified example

[hollow sail]

imo this gun isn't worth it

[atomic abyss]

not worth crafting at least

[hollow sail]

if you want a good and pretty cheap CA gun i'd say get baltimore gun instead

much cheaper, basically equal DPS against light/med while being a little better against heavy

[calm rose]

Its supposed to be triggered at the start? The "flickering light"? Ya can confirm i dont see if even if bearn is the only one in the fleet

[inland shoal]

Yeah it is

[warm flax]

It's a ratio?

[frank pulsar]

no, 1.4 is the same as 140%
i just thought itd be easier to read so i used 1.4, the specific formula is in wiki link thorin linked earlier

[warm flax]

I'll look into it

[steady beacon]

Was this already resolved
I 120'd her for AVI tech but haven't tried bringing her in OpSi
But I can check if you'd like

[inland shoal]

Uhh read this pilica?

[steady beacon]

Sorry, only read your message, replied, and didn't check anything on the way down

[whole crypt]

I've been using Bearn META in OS for the past 2 months but no one asked

[steady beacon]

Anyone know/remember how many prints the Sea Hornet takes to build
Checked my depot (alas, no prints), EN wiki, and CN wiki, and have come back with nothing

[calm rose]

15

[whole crypt]

not research gear should be 15

[tame jungle]

Should be 15 like non-prototype gold yes

[steady beacon]

I wish it were that easy, but then we have weird exceptions like Tashkent gun, HVARcat, and post-bug fix Breguet
But thanks for checking y'all

[calm rose]

Breguet has a bug fix? For wot?

[plain saffron]

15 to 25 bp for 1 plane

[steady beacon]

During the event itself it was erroneously constructible with 15 prints
(Thank God)

I think they modified it like uh... 1 week after the event ended or something

[calm rose]

Ouhhh

[silent latch]

is Eskimo good overall

[icy mountain]

looks like ill be farming d2 instead of d3 for the sea hornets

[spring bolt]

not bad among elite dds, but gold and rainbow ships exist

[silent latch]

Le Malin or Eskimo for sortie

[spring bolt]

both are not strong enough for hard contents, use the one you like more for now

but if you are new, use Eskimo as she costs less and use purple bulin to lb

[undone plover]

This event will be the last source of DR4 prints right?

[steady beacon]

Should be iirc

[forest palm]

if it was the last event before PR5 released

[steady beacon]

Think we had Princeton rerun, then Angel of Iris (stuff from that already made perma), then Aquilifer's (which had first PR5/DR5 prints)

[forest palm]

probably the last event with purchasable PR4 prints

[undone plover]

[steady beacon]

Oh how could I forget, Shinano rerun with PR5 implementation
(But that, of course, had PR3/DR3)

[undone plover]

I will need 40 haku prints for fs5 after this
Do I change focus or just keep 6 and take the odd haku print when it shows up?

[forest palm]

40 prints like...maybe 2 ~ 3 weeks of fishing, which honestly I'd rather do over just maybe hoping a Haku com pops up
there's always the forbidden prints for protocores

[shell willow]

1 print for 120 cores has to be the biggest grief

[undone plover]

Actually not a bad idea now that you mention it

[forest palm]

it is that's why it's forbidden lol

that said there's always medal exchange prints if you have the econ for that

[undone plover]

I dont wanna lose 3 weeks of potential progress on pr7

[undone plover]

I always get them but they are pr6 now

Actually wait they wont be updated for 7 anytime soon right?

[steady beacon]

Prob not till Jan

[low bobcat]

Is getting purple skill books pure luck or do u buy them in shop?

[undone plover]

[inland shoal]

PR6 can still be used on PR4 (Don't do it if you don't have PR6 finished tho)

[forest palm]

doesn't stop you from using them on Haku

[undone plover]

Good idea
So between protocore and medal I wont need to swap focus
Thanks Taz you are a smart fella

[sleek spade]

so vanguard rerun this thursday right?

[steady beacon]

Yep

[shell willow]

yeppers

[sleek spade]

nice

[inland shoal]

You get them from the pass where you get the ship
You get them by luck
You get them in several shops
You can craft them from blue books

[undone plover]

Purple skill books are t2 I think no?

[inland shoal]

Anyway purple books are plenty abound, gold books are the actual struggle

[undone plover]

Oh nvm skill books

[inland shoal]

Yes they are, so?

[low bobcat]

Ahh okay. My meta ships in a stalemate level till I get couple those books not to mention crystal fragments for shop parts

[forest palm]

as long as you have the econ, and understand the resources you're using are of high value

[inland shoal]

Purple meta ships are bad anyway

[undone plover]

Medal and protocore econ is easy

[steady beacon]

Do it Faer
Like I did with DR5 prints for Agir/Haku

[low bobcat]

This the meta ship I have n was trying to update

[forest palm]

me using CDC speed up on Roon cause I cbf to grind KMS

[silk sphinx]

Who needs that much protocore anyways

[forest palm]

doomsday preper mentality

[left cedar]

i use alot of protocores just cuz i can, so yeah, i need alot of protos

[low bobcat]

Well gonna try n beat 6-4 but doubt I’m strong enough yet. But I working on it still

[inland shoal]

Yeah ik, I saw her in the background
She's bad
But if you rly wanna raise her cuz waifu, go ahead ig

[low bobcat]

TTYL

[low bobcat]

She’s the only meta ship I have

[steady beacon]

META is, sadly, not the same as meta

[left cedar]

i got only 13k of protocores, and use something like 600/m to buy some Gear Prints to gear all ships in my dock

[undone plover]

If I max out haku will pr4 ships start showing again in research? Focus on 6 > 7?

[low bobcat]

Theses 2 my chrent favs. Just got my yellow Cartier a few days ago

This 2

[undone plover]

Lusty is okay but long island is pretty bad
Imo get to chapter 12 with good ships then start raising whoever u want

[steady beacon]

I swear I get this wrong every time...
But I think if PRx is done and you are focusing PRy, x \neq y, then PRx faces stop showing up...

[low bobcat]

Im still in 6-3 just completed yesterday

[left cedar]

if she is the last one, them yeah, after she got FS5 all others from PR4 it will be appearing again

[low bobcat]

Still new to Al

[steady beacon]

Oh, so even if unfocused they'll show up again

[low bobcat]

Before those was the Oklahoma

[undone plover]

Similar to prinz in 5 right? So maybe better if I delay both as much as I can

[undone plover]

What is your current fleet u are using?
All 6 ships

[elfin hollow]

The rate of d research appearance doesnt change

[hard mesa]

I dont think i saw nonPR7 face when researching

[undone plover]

Is that confirmed?

[low bobcat]

Let me grab screen shot of fleet 1

[undone plover]

Fleet 1

[inland shoal]

No, but it certainly doesn't decrease to 1/5 if you finish 4/5 ships

[inland shoal]

Yes, it just doesn't show completed ships from different seasons while you have unfinished ships in the season you focus
I do not know if it can still show unfinished ships form unfocused seasons, cuz I have never been in that situation

[steady beacon]

I'll keep an eye out tbh
I have 4 and 5 completely done, focusing 7

[low bobcat]

Okays fleets 1-4 as well as 2 sub fleets though still short one sub in fleet 2

[forest palm]

I tried this back in the day, it really is just placebo to leave unfinished ships

[forest palm]

you really shouldn't be making that many fleets for where you're at in the game

[low bobcat]

They works in prgress. I’m lower then lv 60 still

[left cedar]

here i'm at end game and still only with 2 fleets, cuz its useless have more than that

[low bobcat]

Mainly use fleet 1-2 and sub 1

[forest palm]

ignore subs, and focus on just 1 fleet

you won't use a 2nd fleet till world 10, and it won't be a necessity till 12

[low bobcat]

Subs are only leveling in battles they used in. Not contracting on them

[left cedar]

no one mention about he spliting equally the LBs ...

[low bobcat]

My campaign level is this

My stats at the moment. Only been playing few weeks though

[left cedar]

first, dont focus on build more than 1 fleet (for now, cuz u are too early on the game)
second, focus in just 1 ship till MLB (max numbers of stars) specially the gud gold ones cuz they got a huge boost from being MLB
third, without a healer and a proper fleet build ur push gona be a pain

[low bobcat]

Conctrating on illtrusions because making her my main waifu. She cute

Ironically own the entire dragon empire set but space on basic expansion so can’t display all, Laughing My But Off (LMBO)

Trying to save up gems to unlock last 2 spots in dorm

[silk sphinx]

? Six spots?

You know there’s a second floor right? And that gems are pretty much approximately finite

[stone sluice]

If my main fleet is 1 BB and 2 CVs, is it better to go for one cat that buffs BBs and one for CVs or one cat for CVs and one that buffs vanguard ships?

[silk sphinx]

Your cat is likely bad tbh

[low bobcat]

Haven’t unlocked a second floor yet

[inland shoal]

Go for 2 cats that have flame and some stuff that is helpful

[keen sable]

Probably going to end up ant command

[silk sphinx]

But hey good to know you’re having fun. Do be a bit more careful with gems though, you can’t rly farm them

[stone sluice]

Let’s assume the cats are flawless

[silk sphinx]

You unlock second floor upgrade after expanding your dorm to max area (just takes dorm coins for expansion) second floor takes gems

[low bobcat]

Yeah the gotcha game gems can be a pain.

[inland shoal]

Then probably sth like that
Though a perfect campaign cat could be combining BB and CV buffs, idek

[eager mulch]

soulful warrior bisha

[earnest flare]

im finishing pr4 rn but pr5 is next after, should i take the Brest research for the future?

[halcyon quarry]

Ello! Little question to some of the Top team builders out there: whats would be the best PvE pure Northern Parliament fleet right now? (Including Nakhimov) Thanks if anyone can help!!

[hollow gust]

Depends on content

[forest palm]

not like you have a lot of options for SN to say "Depends on content"

[dawn crest]

I remember being told that faction fleets were not worth the effort.

[hollow gust]

Well yeah

[forest palm]

it really isn't, if someone wants to do it that's their choice

[shell willow]

i mean sure

[nova halo]

good tanker

[sharp socket]

how should i go about making an auto stronghold fleet comp

[halcyon quarry]

Well- i know they aren't worth the effort, but because of that there is also none i can just copy from. I am terrible at building teams, however i do have all of the SN ships and they are also my favorites, so i am just wondering what would theoretically be the most efficient line up if you would only use SN Ships.

[hollow gust]

Making a good fleet

[sharp socket]

do i make a balanced mob and fleet comp, or tanky frontline and boss backline + healer

[hollow gust]

Just run a tank with dps ships , ofc you need a healer

[calm rose]

Fdg/uni/indep, CB/flex/flex with good gears should 1 fleet stronghold

[sharp socket]

i mean i could just send my dock and ask for a solution but id like to also learn how to build fleet for content properly

[forest palm]

all you really need a Unicor, FdG, and a vanguard that's good at not dying

[viscid swift]

Again for where exactly though

Even with the restriction of a faction fleet it still depends on the content

[halcyon quarry]

/PvE in general. Story Stages mostly i would say. I don't really have anything crazy in mind with them.

[viscid swift]

General isn't really a thing

And for farming it's better to use ships that need leveling

[sharp socket]

alright so in short i cant do it yet cause other than getting agir and fdg to d30 i have to level agir

[hollow gust]

Any UR bb would be fine , if anything if you have spare bbs such as NJ you can run her as crossfleet . It's mobbing opsi , basically anything works

[hollow gust]

No? You can literally use your current campaign mob fleet and it will be fine

[halcyon quarry]

Well yes, but i didn't ask for what's better... I get that it's not optimal to use a pure faction Fleet, but i play the game for the characters and mostly for fun, i don't even build them properly half the time. I guess i just want to use what works together. Like i don't want to use 6 SN ships that barely got any synergy together if you know what i mean.

[sharp socket]

that is actually what i was using until portland died at the 3rd miniboss

[hollow gust]

Just use Soyuz Nakhimov Volga Kron then whatever vanguard you have left

[halcyon quarry]

Currently i am using Kronshtadt, Kiev, Avrora in Vanguard and rossiya, belorussiya and Soyuz in the main fleet if that helps.

[viscid swift]

well there wouldn't even be that much synergy even in a full NP Fleet
you would be looking at something like Soyuz, Volga, Chkalov/Nahkimov, Kronshtadt, Chapayev, Kyubshev

the only synergy between NP ships there is Soyuz buffing other NP ships

[halcyon quarry]

I see, i see. Well that already helps a lot.

[hollow gust]

Smh forgotten voroshilov, who happens to work well either nyakimov to

[pseudo hearth]

What's your whole team?

[halcyon quarry]

Ahh okay okay!

[left cedar]

do u guys already got Nekomov D30 !?

[hollow gust]

I have 25 prints of her , I'm so slow

[sharp socket]

hood uni indep portland laffey1 takao

[pseudo hearth]

Ah

[hollow gust]

Last year at the same time ,my kear was over 50 prints

[viscid swift]

I'm the one who's snail

[steady beacon]

No substitute for good luck tbh

[hollow gust]

Are you cubing?

[sharp socket]

takao despite being rated higher than portkai in ehp chart doesnt actually live more when having the same gear

[viscid swift]

yes

[left cedar]

better than i, 19 Neko, 16 Dai and Nap

and that is it, are the onlys i'm gona do anyway

[viscid swift]

RNG really didn't wanna give me Nahkimov researches

[left cedar]

git gud

[hollow gust]

Ouch , that's rough

[pseudo hearth]

Ya, replacing Takao would probably be good here

[silk helm]

look those blue print counts tho 👀

[noble tulip]

You guys are getting face researches ?

[hollow gust]

[sharp socket]

i have a lack of CAs unfortunately, though eugen and roon are getting up as a result of cdc farm

[pseudo hearth]

You don't need a CA to be the off tank

There are a good few CLs and DDs that can off-tank just fine

[silk helm]

how many bp do you have for nakhimov

[sharp socket]

would jda work

shes not 120 yet but i can level her in the meanwhile

[pseudo hearth]

Probably not? I don't use her, but from what I understand she can be a little squishy

[sharp socket]

i can place her in the middle and get 1affey to off tank

[keen sable]

Are you sure you are comparing apples to apples and not oranges?

[sharp socket]

tbh i dont know either

i am aware that charts like those are largely a generalisation and probably not very accurate on a case by case basis

[steady beacon]

Of course

[left cedar]

dammmm, meBot probally crying rn

[steady beacon]

It's more... take it as... indication, just not gospel

[keen sable]

Start with are they both the same level

[pseudo hearth]

One thing I have to ask, does your whole team have their retrofits and unique augments they want?

[steady beacon]

Also, among other things, the over 3% higher variance will lead to increase chance of random accidents

[sharp socket]

im pretty sure i screwed up everyone’s augs but all the unique augs i have

[left cedar]

Augments arent that much recommendation to begginers, they are extreme expenssive and mostly of cases isnt a huge boost, and some arent even a boost compared to general

[sharp socket]

of course

[hushed cliff]

Should I run any of these guns on Heinrich over the purple triple 283mm

Or should I just stick to the pocket battleship gun

[keen sable]

And what is your fleet comp...

[sharp socket]

OS boss and OS mob, ill state my goal again which is to auto stronghold

[left cedar]

depends on content, mostly of the cases, a Twin 234 should be fine all around, exceptions to places with ALOT of shields, them u should run Tri283

Tri234 even better to all around, but ... isnt something plp have to spare to a simple Hein

[silk helm]

what content is independence good for?

[sharp socket]

mob

[eager mulch]

i use her in boss sometimes

[silk helm]

anything else?

[left cedar]

she buffs CVs in other fleets, have a gud dmg for a CVL, and buff others CVs in her fleet, so worth it when u got several CVs in Mob/Boss

[silk helm]

okay ty, ill probs buy her this month. I alr have 2 pairs of black/white

[left cedar]

she need her Retrofit to work like wut i said

[calm rose]

Hmm that backline will prob work. But i think your frontline is not competent enough.

I used smth like this to clear stronghold. Our gears are in a very different situation too. So idt you're ready to one fleet stronghold

Just work on your agir/fdg for now i would say

[wary lake]

i'm farming for the PR 7, i can't complete 12-4 with full sardegna/northern ships, should i continue in 12-4 with mixed main fleet or go to lower chapters? which one is more efficient?

[sinful elk]

Chat will Shima be avaliable for UR exchange

[steady beacon]

Yep

[calm rose]

You can try 12-1 until your ships are more leveled

[sinful elk]

is she better than mogador

[steady beacon]

Relatively similar roles, except their armour preferences skew in opposite directions and their primary mode of damage comes out in wildly different periods

[patent pivot]

you wouldnt happen to have read somewhere if cat stats are floored or used as percentages would you

[calm rose]

Also mogador is alot tankier~

[viscid swift]

I would honestley take Mogador over Shima

[sinful elk]

I kinda lack dps though i already have anchorage and kron for tanking

[steady beacon]

Uhhhh
You mean the three inherent stats?
They just convert to percentages if you're talking about calculating for their skills

[viscid swift]

Mogador is worse than Shima against heavy but not by much and she practically blows her out of the water against light and medium

[patent pivot]

i mean is 150 stat just counted as 1 stack of 100 or is it 1 and half of whatever % buff

[steady beacon]

Multiply the percentage directly through the whole stat, no flooring

[patent pivot]

k thanks

[steady beacon]

They're both DPS
Shima's, though, is primarily massive burst every 20s
Mog's is more constant over time
On the whole Mog is easier to use in most situations
I would still choose Shimakaze every single time, though

[sinful elk]

[steady beacon]

Oh I should also point out (only just recently realised this)
The skill stat percentage bonuses stack in the usual way with other stat bonuses (so like, Bisha Lv 1 skill stacks with, say, Yorktown's AVI buff as 15 + 1.288 = 16.288%)
But the inherent stat percentage bonuses (one on the left side of the screen when you click the ship in the cat house) apply to ship's base stats (no gear, aug, tech etc., but does count oath)

[patent pivot]

._.

[steady beacon]

Blame their cursed spaghetti code, even percentage bonuses don't work consistently

[patent pivot]

well let me just go throw away like a third of my fancy cat function

[icy tree]

Is it normal for my main fleet in exercise to not fire their barrages? Did Azur Lane add in a ship that prevents them from being fired at?

[icy tree]

oh :c

[steady beacon]

Yes, if the enemy backline is all unrevealed

[calm rose]

You dont fire at all if the cv is concealed and is alone, but other than that, you should fire as per normal

[viscid swift]

/detection

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553

For more information, consult the wiki

[icy tree]

But the thing is that the enemy vanguard was still alive

[tranquil gyro]

Is Shinano better use for boss fleet or mob fleet?

[calm rose]

Then it should fire as per normal

[viscid swift]

sounds like a bug/desync

[icy tree]

I see, thank you

[keen sable]

Full wasn't necessary in the first place

[blazing shale]

No need to rush the PR exp, should probably start farming during Vanguard's event though

[spice phoenix]

do i craft or buy the firebrand to get wyvern?

[pseudo phoenix]

Once i finish my last personal PR6, is Halford a good pick for Mob Fleet?

[atomic abyss]

no

[atomic abyss]

none of the gold rarity PR7 ships are expected to affect the meta in any way

especially a DD

she might have some use in BB fleets but like, the timing on her skill just doesn't fit well with them

[atomic abyss]

craft for sure

[forest palm]

I find Daisen to be the least impactful, or useful out of PR7

[atomic abyss]

i mean, is that not wrong?

UR BBs aside
Owari exists

halford at least you COULD argue use with 457s

[forest palm]

it's a problem more so to do with a generic kit, and an extremely oversaturated hull type

[atomic abyss]

ok well, admittedly bayard leaves me more confused

[left cedar]

any PR have any impact ?
mostly of the already "UR" only

[atomic abyss]

personally i believe halford is the only one that'll see any form of use from 7

[forest palm]

Shimanto, August, Harbin, Anchor, Odin, Seattle, Champaign, Gascogne, Monarch....

[eager mulch]

source?

[atomic abyss]

or do you mean in general

[left cedar]

only Shimanto and Ancho have some sort of use nowadays, and Ancho probally getting replaced by a DR

[atomic abyss]

oh you mean in general
then yeah shimanto, anchorage, cheshire, harbin, avp

[forest palm]

oh, ya Cheshire as well

[calm rose]

Hmm halford cannon dmg debuff is actually closer to 17~18 seconds right

[atomic abyss]

personally

i think there might be some possibility of inserting her into BB fleets

[forest palm]

there's plenty of SSR Research ships that are, or were impactful, it's just when you have a dog shit kit you're just gonna fall to the wayside

[atomic abyss]

but that scuffs your timings to higher rof guns

[forest palm]

also Halford may be interesting for 14 ~ 15, but need testing

[atomic abyss]

i mean at least you can theoretically come up with some use for halford, turtle

[patent pivot]

???

[atomic abyss]

i have absolutely no idea what bayard and daisen are meant to do

[patent pivot]

are you sacking hinde for a mistimed buff?

[atomic abyss]

dude i said possibility

[patent pivot]

i dont see how its even that

[atomic abyss]

why can't people read

[calm rose]

I can see it lining up with twin guns

[pseudo phoenix]

[viscid swift]

15 seconds is still too fast even for 457s

[calm rose]

Since it takes time for the plane to get to the enemy and the rockets to hit the enemy

[patent pivot]

you get 8% or whatever on first salvo with HPFCR then nothing

[atomic abyss]

my point was that halford might see more use than bayard and especially daisen

[calm rose]

So its closer to 17 to 18 seconds instead of 15 seconds

[atomic abyss]

that's all

[calm rose]

If i read the skill correctly

[atomic abyss]

i never claimed that she WILL be of use

yahoo please

ultimately without actual testing in battle it's all meaningless conjecture

[patent pivot]

ill run tests after nakimov

[atomic abyss]

and just to entertain your point about hinden
agreed - but not everyone will have hinden

[hard mesa]

screenclear

[atomic abyss]

and there is already some thought that it *might *be worth skipping pr6 straight to pr7

[patent pivot]

imo if you dont have pr6 for kears then pr7 is moot

then again maybe campaign changes shit

[spice phoenix]

are any of the ib or se AA guns even worth using or should i just stick to the RN AA guns

[atomic abyss]

assuming we talking the AA guns from tech boxes only
roombas and quad bofors

[steady beacon]

In before RN here means "Italian"

[atomic abyss]

if you include gear lab and research options, then there are others

[spice phoenix]

nah i’m talking all R&D gear and printed gear

[atomic abyss]

and what, SE is sardegna empire?

[eager mulch]

Bayard is like Scylla 2 is what I’m hearing

[atomic abyss]

the rainbow AA gun is french anyways

[eager mulch]

didn’t they give Bayard a barrage with similar base damage to sushi barrage?

[steady beacon]

I thought it was Sakura Empire

[atomic abyss]

it is dammit

[eager mulch]

survivability expert

[steady beacon]

Super effective

[patent pivot]

idk sycllia dps

[atomic abyss]

bayard to me feels like michita that might actually live to tell the tale

[steady beacon]

Scylla practical DPS depends on how many targets tbh

[atomic abyss]

the issue with bayard is, how do you calc her "increased dmg with lower HP" buff
as in, what value do you use

unless her barrage really is that ridiculous to carry her alone

[viscid swift]

I don't know why Manjuu thinks Adrenaline Rush works in AL

[calm rose]

they tried

[atomic abyss]

now if they gave that kinda skill to mogador who yeets herself into danger

maybe it might have made more sense

but no, unless the rest of bayard's kit is strong enough as is, i just don't see how she gonna be any notable use

[viscid swift]

she's CL EVA tech so that already gives her some notability at least

[atomic abyss]

...well she has useful tech i guess
dammit too slow

[steady beacon]

She's also cute, so that gives her even more notability

[atomic abyss]

as for daisen

the only somewhat notable part of her kit (i think) is

When this ship's Main Guns finish loading: launches a recon plane and targets the enemy furthest from this ship, increasing this ship's DMG dealt to that enemy by 10% (20%) for 10s.

[vale spindle]

also the heal if the plane gets shot down some number of times

[atomic abyss]

now if only she was a DR...

[vale spindle]

shes off-flag so thats already a plus

[atomic abyss]

cos that's quite a substantial debuff no?

[vale spindle]

its only for herself

[viscid swift]

it is

[atomic abyss]

well sacrifces had to be made
oh well

[urban grail]

u guys use gold botes?

[viscid swift]

well, tech is tech

[eager tide]

mlb guam or soyuz?

[urban grail]

soyuz clear

[viscid swift]

probably soyuz, but it's dependent on what you have and if you're planning to tackle W15 anytime soon

[atomic abyss]

soyuz probably
assuming you don't already have a very strong UR BB fleet

btw. for vanny rerun, there is a rainburin in the milestone right

[eager tide]

okay, thanks!

[late heron]

any opsi team recomms? i have most(?) of the good ships except alsace and soyuz
all pr and drs are dev30 fs5 except azuma and drake

my old teams are like haku ark royal shinano // anchorage kazagumo helena
idk whats good anymore lol

[steady beacon]

All the time

[frank pulsar]

shld be

[steady beacon]

15k (after reduction)

Also, what the heck happened to JP patch notes

[viscid swift]

no clue, CN revealed there wasn't much interesting and there is a stream soon anyway

[steady beacon]

CN revealed what we already know
I want JP to get an early clue into next event's format

[viscid swift]

BB Boss: Musashi, Bismarck Zwei, Vanguard, Agir, Helena, Plymouth
CV Boss: Shinano, Hakuryu, Implacable, Guam, Kazagumo, Sirius
Mob: Unicorn, Independence, +4
4th fleet: whatever

probably SP or raid with how things are going

[knotty dome]

is rerun ~2 year after original, and then WA ~1 year after rerun?

[undone plover]

Missed a BB cheeky

[viscid swift]

in excess of 2 years for reruns, the average is like 26 months for reruns right now
the order for WAs is so fucked right now I can't even comment on that

[knotty dome]

thanks

[viscid swift]

I'm serious
the order originally should have been something like Shinano, Inverted Orthant, Bellorussiya, Aquila, NJ, Shima
it's been Inverted Orthant, NJ and Shinano, Bellorussiya, Angel of Iris, Shima

[knotty dome]

have they stopped rate up on WA patch? there wasnt any for iris and i think nj/nano, i dont remember any on bellorussiya

[viscid swift]

not since NJ and Shinano no

[calm rose]

So aquila got skipped and its all jumbled up

[forest palm]

they're clearly withholding information till stream
like holding a sneeze during class

[viscid swift]

yeah, Shima's getting added not even a year since she reran but Aquila's been MIA for close to a year and a half now

so it makes getting a gauge on the average a real PIA

[steady beacon]

Like everything in this game, it's decided by darts thrown at the wall while blindfolded

[rapid grail]

W devs for not giving the newbies Aquila

[cobalt rapids]

the chance of getting aquila even when she hits perma is 🤏

[calm rose]

Was there a event name for the x10 skill book insta-complete thingy?

[forest palm]

at least we got one of the least relevant URs

[cobalt rapids]

rapid training or smth

[forest palm]

[soft raft]

Why hasnt the fleet tech bonuses in datamine been replaced with English text yet

[steep gulch]

Shimakaze and Vanguard, which one is priority?

[forest palm]

Vanguard

[calm rose]

Vanguard~

[forest palm]

Shimakaze doesn't even have a rate up afaik

[dire burrow]

if im running biszwei, musashi and vanguard against arbiter, outside of the 18s guns for vanguard and ijn gun for musashi, what gear should i give biszwei

[steep gulch]

[forest palm]

also she fell off

[rapid grail]

backline URs > frontline URs in terms of MLB priorities

so Vanguard

[steep gulch]

Alright thanks!

[sweet delta]

What's an 18s gun, you probably don't want that

[dire burrow]

is it not worth 18s reload time to proc barrages? or should i j use the triple 406mm for all

[sweet delta]

For this month's hard arbiter, put a -15% aux and a triple 406 Mk7 or mk6 for both Bisz and vanguard, and twin 410 Kai for musashi

It's never worth using a fast weak BB gun to proc barrages against single target bosses

[dire burrow]

ah ic tyty

[signal pollen]

For Marco Polo combat data two, who should I upgrade for to use for my third main fleet member ? I’m planning to use centaur and monarch

[dire burrow]

and generally for aux is black or white shell better to keep

[errant mauve]

Does roon muse contribute to Iron blood EXP in research?

[sweet delta]

Ark royal would be more useful than monarch (and indeed, centaur too)
And implacable if your fleet can handle the dead weight would be a bigger investment for the future

[errant mauve]

Ah ty!

[sweet delta]

Or illustrious if you're a chapter 1 to chapter 15 speedrunner

[wary timber]

Wow chapter 12 is quite literally throwing planes at me already.my main bossing fleet shoots most of them down but some slip by

[calm rose]

Its okay for some to slip through, as long as your main fleet doesnt die, its okay

[tame jungle]

If the plane pressure is high make sure you use the AA strategy thing (bottom right menu)

[signal pollen]

I’m just gonna be grinding 12-1 over and over again. But ark royal? Really?

[sweet delta]

I mean what use do monarch and centaur have

[novel solstice]

Your destroyers will thank you for keeping Ark Royal busy.

[signal pollen]

So true

[dire burrow]

for vanguard aux, is it still generally toolkit and hydraulic gear

[sweet delta]

Ark is good if you dont have both fs5 AvP and MLB implacable

[wary timber]

But for AA guns is it better to arm high alpha dmg AA guns to ships with better AA stat like say Helena Meta and the rest has maybe the quad bofors or other accelarators

[sweet delta]

For cruisers that's a near perfect baseline, but for DDs drop the hydraulic for more HP

[sweet delta]

For chapter 12, high range like twin 113 is best on everyone unless there's a truly shit AA ship which you probably shouldn't be using anyways

[frigid linden]

Is Independence a boos or mob fleet cv?

[sweet delta]

Both works

[wary timber]

Ah shit I don't have any twin 113s

[tame jungle]

Both works but desync + barrage she shines more on mobs

[sweet delta]

Independence is squishy though so sometimes she could die in boss

[frigid linden]

Hmmm who should I pair independence with?
I have Saratoga, Unicorn and Enterprise.
I’m doing 2 cv each for boss and mob

[shell willow]

what content?

[frigid linden]

Just campaign

[forest palm]

that still doesn't help....

[atomic abyss]

different campaign maps need different fleets

[granite flume]

can someone help me building my fleets i dont have the knowledge with it :/ if someone has time just dm me thx <3

[atomic abyss]

uh

are you new to the game or

[granite flume]

i played a long time ago

but i dont know very much about the game

[atomic abyss]

in that case, create a thread and post what ships you have there

[granite flume]

okay can i upload screenshots there?

[atomic abyss]

yes of course

[keen sable]

For 15 one fleeters indy would go on boss. Otherwise she's a mob ship

[soft raft]

yes
that's the whole reason for the thread so you dont clog the main chat

[keen sable]

Which means unicorn

[granite flume]

Help me with my Fleets

[dire burrow]

for cvs with an aircraft slot, which type is generally best for bosses

[atomic abyss]

torpedo bombers since you can use converging ones to focus a single target
but that's not how you should select them

you need to see the carrier in question

[dire burrow]

For nano haku and implacable?

[atomic abyss]

TBs for sure
but the priority should still be syncing them together

[dire burrow]

How does syncing work for cvs?

[atomic abyss]

you change their planes or auxes until they can strike at almost the same time (+- 0.2s)

[dire burrow]

is that the fr on the gear

[atomic abyss]

yes the FR once equipped, or using an airstrike calculator

[dire burrow]

ty

[eager mulch]

airstrike calculator better cause in game doesn’t take skills into account

or cats

[sweet delta]

A general loadout is quite suboptimal. Hvar fighter does significantly more than TBs against light bosses. Bf109g does more than TBs against light and medium . TBs are only optimal on heavy

[sudden rain]

I have a question is RN Aquila in normal pool?

[viscid swift]

no

[atomic abyss]

no

[forest palm]

snubbed by Shimakaze

[sudden rain]

[hollow gust]

Aquila should be in special eventually

[stark quiver]

so aquila isnt gonna be archived along with shima?

[atomic abyss]

she's not perma

[forest palm]

Nyakhimov CDC was RN + SN, right? no other faction?

[gritty gull]

prob asked before but is shimakaze going to be in the 400 selection like shinano and jersey?

[orchid tulip]

Hi, how many Meta ships' skills can I have actively leveling at the same time? unlimited? do they level up slower when stacking too many?

[steady beacon]

Nope, they all level independently of each other

[hollow gust]

Unlimited

[orchid tulip]

woah nice

[silk helm]

this good for non-manual or naw

[steady beacon]

Auto? No
Manual? Also, honestly, no, there are better things one can use these days

[silk helm]

kk cool, scrapped

[stark quiver]

Well you could’ve just put it on a ship you don’t use

[silk helm]

🤝 ill do that next time

[steady beacon]

Ye lol
Esp since I'm 99% sure it'll be the first step in the chain to building Shima torps one day

[scenic escarp]

As a new player should I really care about Shipyard?

[silk helm]

what if i never plan to manual play :v

[soft raft]

are you at at least W9 yet or nah

[scenic escarp]

no

[soft raft]

Then no not really
But you may as well give this a read in the meantime https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[scenic escarp]

tyty

[sudden rain]

Which bb should be my focus? I have enough to max New Jersey but not all

[atomic abyss]

how many rainbow bulins do you have

[sudden rain]

4

[viscid swift]

Soyuz first

[sudden rain]

Or should I wait until the 18th?

[viscid swift]

neither Vanguard nor Shima would take priority over Soyuz

[sudden rain]

OH because of the spd debuf?

[viscid swift]

no, Soyuz is just overall more versitile

[white agate]

what has soyuz over vanguard btw?
less restrictive use?

[viscid swift]

she functions better solo and in campaign

[atomic abyss]

she can work pretty well in mob too, vanguard isn't as good in mob
very strong cross fleet

[sudden rain]

Thank you everyone Soyuz recommendation has open my eyes

And that smile won it over.

Or my imagination?

[earnest flare]

do non-permanent skins go on sale during Black Friday or anything like that?

[bold salmon]

do i use my ur bullins for moga or wait till vanguard?

[viscid swift]

probably wait for Vanguard

[bold salmon]

ok thanks

[atomic abyss]

anni and black friday

[soft raft]

Up to a certain cutoff point yes

[silk helm]

when's soyuz coming back

[viscid swift]

not anytime soon

[silk helm]

damn i missed it

[forest palm]

considering Soyuz was this year...

[silk helm]

Which one should i do next: Mainz, Odin, Prinz Rupprecht, Brest, Felix Schultz, Hindenburg?

[undone plover]

Have you done one from pr1-4 for the rookie missions?

[silk helm]

ye, i did roon, izumo, chesire, anch, avp, agir, harbin

[undone plover]

Doesnt matter much then tbh
Can do either of those
Can also try and do marco to coin her and get her research out of the pool

[silk helm]

okay, i don't have the tech points for mp yet, but ill keep that in mind

[elfin hollow]

Honestly, Brest and Hindenburg > the rest

[soft raft]

Have fun waiting

[eager mulch]

i wont

[silk helm]

only 12 events to go

[loud scarab]

how do you all deal with this?

[cobalt rapids]

i use em

[atomic abyss]

It's very easy to burn coins so

[silk helm]

i've never seen that pop up

[atomic abyss]

Go reroll your cats

And the coins will disappear so fast you'll wonder how it disappeared

[half plover]

my leveling fleet is ripped and I have to run unicorn at 12-1 even tho everyone is lvl 90-115 fully geared 😭

[atomic abyss]

"Wait, what do you mean I only rerolled like 10x"

[atomic abyss]

What are you talking about

[half plover]

maybe I am using a super bad fleet

but my ships all die really early at 12-1

[silk helm]

threat level safe?

[half plover]

yes

[atomic abyss]

What is the fleet in question

[half plover]

main is penny, chen hai and AvP, vanguard is anch, mogador, saint louis

[eternal sluice]

Hello everyone, I recently came back to Azur Lane so I am currently doing the Homecoming Returning missions.

One of them is developing 1 piece of gear in the Gear Lab but after crafting 2 gears, the mission has not been fulfilled.
Does anyone know what counts as fulfilling this particular mission?

[tame jungle]

dev levels on the 3 research ships?

[soft raft]

This is gear lab

[atomic abyss]

Gear lab is not depot

[half plover]

avp fs5, anch dev30 saint dev30

[tame jungle]

hmmm

[atomic abyss]

Lack of AA, lack of fighters

Ofc you're dying

[half plover]

would a retro sandy instead of mogador solve the problem?

[atomic abyss]

It would be overkill if anything

[half plover]

I'll try after the run

lmao

I finished sandys retro skill yesterday but didn't try her out yet

[atomic abyss]

Well if the Chen Hai was retro she'd work

[half plover]

I dont even have planes for chen hai

[atomic abyss]

[half plover]

so yeah not retro yet

[atomic abyss]

You do realise even the simplest seaplanes aren't hard to get right

[half plover]

I think I have two purple

let me check

[atomic abyss]

But yes basically you only have 2 fighters and not even decent AA on the frontline

And probably levels missing here and there since it's a grinding fleet

If Chen Hai was retro you could have 2+5 fighters

[half plover]

nvm I dont run anch, it was brennus

[atomic abyss]

so 2 fighters and trash AA on everyone else
with lack of levels

not surprised

[keen sable]

Are you one fleeting? Not that it matters to dying in two fights

[atomic abyss]

even 12-1 needs someone with at least ok AA

[half plover]

no I run two fleets, but a lot of good ships are either done or got moved to my boss fleet so they dont level that fast

my boss fleet doesnt survive yet with FdG flagship and arizona lvl 70 as third ship

[atomic abyss]

the chen hai is the cause of all your problems honestly

[half plover]

I heard I should raise her but I didn't think she would be that much of a problem

[keen sable]

You need to show everything in a thread

[half plover]

uhm

[atomic abyss]

i mean yeah seaplanes don't AA so

she is going to be a complete burden

[forest palm]

Not even a STAAG

[keen sable]

Is every ship like that

[atomic abyss]

assume you basically only have 5 shi-

[half plover]

ofc not 😭

[bold salmon]

the new fighter intercept?

[atomic abyss]

bruh...

[half plover]

I don't have great gear on everyone yet but at least somewhat decent from pre opsi

[tame jungle]

don't +7 that camo

[keen sable]

Pretty bad

[silk helm]

why not?

[keen sable]

Healerless with no toolkits...

[atomic abyss]

no, it's a better rocket fighter

[frank pulsar]

its fine to use it, +7 is max lv for blue gear anyway

[half plover]

everything in a thread

[shell willow]

ranger's quick takeoff is able to proc infinitely or theres a limit?

[stark quiver]

rng

[atomic abyss]

can proc infinitely

[stark quiver]

nothings impossible with ranger

[forest palm]

theoretically could crash your game

[novel solstice]

There's a limit in that it takes a few seconds each time, and the battle eventually would end with her launching.

[hollow gust]

Ranger , ricest favorite boat

[pseudo hearth]

Yeah, Ranger is a beast. There's a reason why we haven't gotten another ship with that skill set. Although, heavy reliance on RNG there.

[signal pollen]

Are there CV/CVL that apply slow?(preferably better against bosses)

[pseudo hearth]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

implacable, august, formidable freeze enemies outright

ark slows

[signal pollen]

Oh thanks. I see why august is a priority for some people now.

[atomic abyss]

her fs5 is priority since only then is her freeze guaranteed

formidable's isn't

and ark is the most accessible option

[signal pollen]

Fs5 😭 DOes agir have a FS?

[atomic abyss]

no

[tame jungle]

not yet

[atomic abyss]

not like she needs one

[signal pollen]

Wait does it actually take 200 prints to go from 27->30

[atomic abyss]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[signal pollen]

What's the differnce between priority and decisive

[crimson glacier]

decisive is better

[atomic abyss]

priority are the golds like august
decisive are the rainbows like agir

[pseudo hearth]

Priority is Gold, Decisive is Rainbow

[signal pollen]

Thanks

[tranquil saffron]

Wait, I thought dr ships required less prints than pr ships

[pseudo hearth]

I'd say, if you can, level up your Ark Royal and Retrofit her for what you want to use now, but in the meantime, do the thing to get August, and when she's a high enough Dev level, switch Ark out for her.

[atomic abyss]

[pseudo hearth]

No, definitely not. They're the UR of research ships after all

[atomic abyss]

avp before fs5 shd not be used over ark

[pseudo hearth]

Why would they be easier to complete

[tranquil saffron]

This whole time I thought I was crazy

[sweet delta]

You are

[pseudo hearth]

I understand that, it's why I mentioned not to use her before a certain point, I just couldn't remember the exact point where she becomes better, so I didn't want to give specific but wrong info.

[eager mulch]

crazy? i was crazy once-

[atomic abyss]

at the very least dev 30
for her full plane load out
but even then ark will just deal more damage anyways

[eager mulch]

all ships max stars or bust

[pseudo hearth]

Definitely... Or you can just use Implacable

That requires you to have her though

[eager mulch]

implacable undeniably based

[pseudo hearth]

She's still the best at what she does

And probably will stay there until she gets directly powercrept

[flint wyvern]

Does shinano pair well with musashi?

[atomic abyss]

they don't have any notable synergy outside of musashi counting towards shinano's 3 IJN ship requirement

[eager mulch]

whether i use shinano with musashi very well depends on where im using them

[atomic abyss]

you likely won't use them in the same fleets tho

[flint wyvern]

Copy copy

[stark quiver]

most of the time u run kazagumo in vanguard to get the 3rd ship

[eager mulch]

what’s ur reasoning behind this

[atomic abyss]

if it's w14/15, sushi is preferred on mob usually
so another UR BB will end up in the boss fleet

[eager mulch]

so you can’t mob nano with her?

[atomic abyss]

in opsi, musashi is stuck with other UR BBs

i mean, w14/15 advise 2 healers for mob
nano isn't a healer

[eager mulch]

why not though? perfectly viable choice

[stark quiver]

doesnt make her bad for mob

[eager mulch]

doesn’t mean she can’t mob either, musashi is also good for boss fleets

[keen sable]

You can use off meta ships and end up with off meta results

[atomic abyss]

it's more of "why would you use nano for mob when there's likely better picks?"

most people will end up running aqui/volga with uni

hence why i said "not likely"

[eager mulch]

so are we assuming every player has aqui/volga?

[atomic abyss]

are we assuming every player has mlb nano?

potato potahto lol

[eager mulch]

of nano aqui and Volga only one of them is perma

[stark quiver]

soon™️

[atomic abyss]

ryuuhou works too anyways

[pseudo hearth]

Perseus

[atomic abyss]

you wouldn't run percy with uni

[keen sable]

Ryuuhou isn't tiered. Dunno if failed or time

[pseudo hearth]

Oh ok, I don’t have Percy so I wouldn’t know, I just figured that she would be fine being one of the two healers along with Uni.

[crimson glacier]

percy isnt that good with uni

[pseudo hearth]

Yes, we just talked about that

[signal pollen]

Is it okay to run anchorage and agir in the same team?

Or is there jot a situation I would need that much survival

[cobalt rapids]

usually split, sometimes together

[signal pollen]

Alright, thanks

[slow fox]

In every situation, you should maximize eHP.

[sweet delta]

I maximized ehp and timed out 10 minutes on CM

[strong tartan]

Veneto doesn't need flag right

[half plover]

do I want 3 white and heavy shell sets?

[eternal moth]

Take the gold?

[forest palm]

do you care to push prints, or do you wanna take a shot at the UR Plane?

I'd personally take the UL though

[viscid swift]

same

[hollow sail]

i'd say take the 30m researches if you can spare the resources because they're very rare to see and good

[elfin hollow]

which ones are good to collect blueprints

[forest palm]

which blueprints...

ship, or gear?

[elfin hollow]

ship

[shell willow]

face researches of course

[elfin hollow]

when does the event starts

[eager mulch]

cube research

[vale spindle]

whenever patch notes say it does

or twitter etc. some official social media

usually its thursday

[stark quiver]

i thought it used to be wednesdays

[forest palm]

about 42 hrs till the event hits

[vale spindle]

Always is Thursday server time

[keen sable]

Unless it's not

[kind thistle]

For OpSi CV bossing: Sirius, Gumo, and what's a good third vanguard? The CVs are shimano combo & implac

[forest palm]

Guam

[kind thistle]

What if Guam dodged me

[forest palm]

just any tank really

[sweet delta]

Do you expect to kill bosses within 50 seconds or 2 airstrike loads?

[kind thistle]

The idea is 2 airstrikes, since all the good gear is on that fleet

[sweet delta]

If the boss is dead in 50 seconds, then you don't need a tank and can use Sirius Kazagumo Helena

Or various other buff/debuffers like Aurora for Temperance, the weaker Scylla for any boss, or the RNG Bristol for any boss

[kind thistle]

Thank you

[little tree]

Does vanguard dmg even matter when I look at dmg reports it's like 80% from main fleet?

[stark quiver]

well theres a 20% from vanguard

[inland shoal]

No it's a scam, my QUL I took today gave me only 1 PR gear print and is definitely totally representative
I honestly take ULs whenever they appear even if they're off season. I think about it a bit longer if it's H-UL

[little plinth]

does morale regen happen every hour, or is there a more granular tick speed?

[little plinth]

do ships in battle not regen then? I could've sworn they do, but my girls have been stuck at 0 morale for a while now

[soft raft]

They should, try force closing and relaunching the game, could be a desync

[little plinth]

yep it was desync, ty

[inland shoal]

You can also just go to battle, that also fixes it usually

[errant mauve]

what is the difference between XTB2D-1 Sky pirate and XSB3C-1 in gear lab

[hollow sail]

skypirate is a torp bomber, xsb is a dive bomber

[errant mauve]

ah I'm stupid sorry

[humble iris]

Guys is anchorage still meta

[errant mauve]

but how good is the sky pirate?

[alpine pawn]

I take it there's no way to speed up the account deletion process? Want to bind my guest account but I have to wait until nearly the end of the month to do so

[remote yarrow]

She's always been one of the best tanks in the and will probably stay that way for a long time

[humble iris]

Whose the best tank currently

[hollow sail]

it's good for a gold torp bomber. but you should be looking to make wyverns asap

[errant mauve]

alright tysm!

[humble iris]

I'm assuming it's one of the UR ships

[remote yarrow]

There's no "best tank" honestly

[humble iris]

Oh

[noble tulip]

it depends on the content but agir/brest/guam/laffey 2 are your best bet

[sage sluice]

heavily depends on content, like most things

[remote yarrow]

But Agir,Brest,Guam and Napoli are the best ones without any context

oh Laffii too

[humble iris]

Those are so hard to get so much farming