gameplay-help

[undone plover]

then do what thorin suggested
thorin u have this months medal shop list?

[inland shoal]

It's on wiki

[pale wasp]

this?

[plain saffron]

/wiki medal shop

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Medal_Shop

[pale wasp]

ok and what am i looking at?

[royal cloud]

is there's a way to change gmail to an acc that ur binded?

[plain saffron]

contact customer service

[cobalt rapids]

servers that have bb or cv in the July column

[red stag]

have they announced the event after the Vanguard event or not yet

[plain saffron]

french event iirc

[cobalt rapids]

french event

[undone plover]

damn double BB is possible

[red stag]

[pale wasp]

does it matter between bb and cv?

[inland shoal]

So loterally anything but Amagi

[pale wasp]

guess ill go little enterprise then since thats the newest

[cobalt rapids]

i prefer cv but doesnt rly matter

[inland shoal]

Double SS is also possible

[red stag]

wait wheres the sauce of the bb news thing i cant find it in JP AL twtr account

[cobalt rapids]

weibo

[red stag]

figured

[plain saffron]

didn't jp also tweeted

[viscid swift]

CN also announced it yes

[keen sable]

Sandy best. Cv most important for hard mode

[pale wasp]

so going little enterprise was a no no

guess ill switch then

[inland shoal]

Bb news?

[cobalt rapids]

beautiful baguettes news

[keen sable]

Bulgy baguettes?

[haughty dust]

is this character any good? I just pulled her today from a single daily pull.

also, somebody had claimed that you couldn’t get to the same character in the research area at the same time. However, this happened yesterday.

[shell willow]

that somebody was wrong

[plain saffron]

idk who told you but that's not true

[haughty dust]

thank you for the information.

[keen sable]

That's not what they said

[haughty dust]

Well, that’s the way I interpreted it

[undone plover]

they probably meant u cant get same duration of the same character
like 2 2.5h haku

[plain saffron]

it's either they wrong or you misunderstand

[keen sable]

You don't even have any duplicates there...

[plain saffron]

i guess it's something like no duplicate research?

[haughty dust]

2 Haku right next to each other

[cobalt rapids]

.

[inland shoal]

Yeah but one 5h one 2.5h

[keen sable]

They don't look the same to me

[inland shoal]

So long as this name is different the research is not the same

[haughty dust]

Yeah, but still same character, though even if it’s not the same exact research

[plain saffron]

yes but what they said is same research not sacme character

[inland shoal]

Yeah but they meant to say that you can have the same character 4 times, just not the same research twice

[keen sable]

She's actually tiered usable I believe but not the ship you are looking for

[haughty dust]

wdym?

[broken kernel]

yes

[worn beacon]

Sovyetki Soyuz with 406mm right?

[haughty dust]

trying to get her to fate simulation five right now alongside Agir. Meanwhile, coining Cheshire.

[inland shoal]

He meant Dido μ

[knotty dome]

are La9 "worth it"? for 1 +13 La9 i could +13 3 bf109 or the gold heavy rocket. especially if you're partway through, like i have 4 +13 bf109, if i +13 4 gold heavy rocket it would cost 480 plates but 4 La9 to replace everything would be 1440 plates

[haughty dust]

oh ok

[viscid swift]

well, post your dock in a thread then

[viscid swift]

I certainly didn't say that

[shell willow]

misunderstanding

[balmy matrix]

Can formi paired with other carriers for her stop skill?

[eager mulch]

sure

[undone plover]

even at +10 the La-9 is better than a +13 bf109
so any gold plates into the bf109 would just be a waste at this point since u will slowly phase them out
the only thing is the RLD but u can always work around that (mostly)

also dont +13 the gold heavy rocket plane it is not worth it
but also why did u have 4 bf109 at +13

[knotty dome]

> even at +10 the La-9 is better than a +13 bf109
wait really? i didnt realize the jump was so big

[eager mulch]

acting like +13 bf109 is a bad thing

[undone plover]

it is not but at this point there is a better plane so not high prio like before imo

[eager mulch]

what better plane

[undone plover]

La-9

[knotty dome]

i have 4 +13 bf109 PRIOR to PR7, i did them months ago

[undone plover]

yeah that is fine

[eager mulch]

hvars are event limited so not everyone has them, La9 takes months to get one of and takes 3x the gold plates bf109s do

[undone plover]

there is nothing wrong with +10 Bf109 tho

[hard mesa]

having more than 3 +13bf still isnt bad

[viscid swift]

you could say that about just any equip though

the Bf-109G certainly has lower priority now but to say you shouldn't +13 any of them is uhh yeah

[eager mulch]

like fuck im supposed to just wait to +13 my la9s now?

[viscid swift]

also, how long do you think it'll take to get enough of them in quantity to replace the Bf-109G fully in your fleets, a few months at least

probably closer to a year

[undone plover]

i suppose I am thinking more in terms of min/maxing gold plates

[eager mulch]

best anti-medium cv comps will take like 4-6 rocket fighters

[undone plover]

sure thing but what is wrong with leaving them at +10

[viscid swift]

I retiterate, by that logic what's wrong with leaving Champaign Guns, Tenrais, Ryuusseis, etc at +10

[undone plover]

well it is not exactly similar is it? champy is still BiS tenrai is still BiS afaik

[viscid swift]

well consider this, why do you want to +13 gear in the first place

[clever sun]

What plane should i equip for my saratoga?

[hard mesa]

Prob same problem better +13 tenrai than goldiver

[viscid swift]

the comparrison isn't really apt

[whole crypt]

Tenrai over Goldiver is a matter of rarity and Tenrai already does more than goldiver +13 at +10

[undone plover]

1 La9 at +13 and 2 bf109 at +10 will out dmg three +13 bf109 i believe unless my calcs are wrong
and it takes 360 plates for both

[viscid swift]

Tenrais you need in much smaller quantity and are much quicker and easier to get

[whole crypt]

also you don't use tenrai in 4-strike comps

[viscid swift]

what cals exactly?

[undone plover]

assuming u have 360 plates investing in 1 LA-9 will give u better total anti-med dmg vs 3 bf109

[viscid swift]

the issue still stands though, to get 5 La-9s, you need the best part of a year of continual PR7 research focus, on average one every 3 months

[undone plover]

anyway like I said u make good points
depends how much the person wants to min/max

[whole crypt]

why are you thinking of a La-9 +13 when you don't even have 10% of a La-9

you'll probably have the plates for it when you get there even if you did a BFG or 2 first

[viscid swift]

coincidentally, 3 months is also how long it takes roughly to get 360 gold plates

[distant grail]

Guys, are they rare or not? I don't see them in the game's tier list

[reef flume]

Littorio is meh

Enty is very strong

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure Enterprise is high on the tier list, try looking again

[distant grail]

🤔

[distant grail]

Tysm

[eager mulch]

depends on the tier list ig

[reef flume]

Enterprise is perfect for the boss fleet

[whole crypt]

why would we refer to anything else besides ectl here

[distant grail]

So how I can make she stronger?

[whole crypt]

you read this yet? https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[distant grail]

Ah no

[undone plover]

you could invest in Torpedo bombers first (6 total)
then save plates for 3 months
at 9 months of progress getting 1 LA-9 is probable assuming the person has focus on pr5 > pr7

anyway this is getting rly protracted and pointless so I will leave the gold plate advice to u guys

[whole crypt]

while Enterprise is a good option you may have trouble raising her early between getting the gold bulins needed to LB her as well as the coin costs

[viscid swift]

yeah, I agree with you and Umi that TBs take priority now with the La-9

[distant grail]

Ty for help, guys

[whole crypt]

converting TBs were always first priority for plane plates

[viscid swift]

but I don't agree that +13 Bf-109Gs are off the table entirely, especially as no one even has one to use yet

[eager mulch]

it’s not like +13 is a necessity in the game

[eager mulch]

what if I got really lucky and got one

[viscid swift]

I would accuse you of cheating

[whole crypt]

well there goes my plan to +13 a second spearfish

[sharp socket]

is spearfish just timing sidegrade to wyvern

[eager mulch]

it has rockets but doesn’t passively intercept planes so

[eternal basalt]

Nope https://www.bilibili.com/opus/954338292907638802

[keen sable]

Your interception load goes down by like 5% in exchange for killing something is the theory

[forest palm]

ah, yes use information only just posted to prove your point that at the time wasn't verified to validate yourself, and needlessly ping someone

[eager mulch]

what if I really need to ping you

[forest palm]

it's probably be more relevant than w/e the hell that was

[eternal basalt]

That the July event was coming, as everyone knew?

[shell willow]

is the UR rerun gonna last 1 week?

[forest palm]

yet that's speculative, and channel rules are a thing?

[forest palm]

ye, reruns tend to be a week

[shell willow]

[eternal basalt]

Vanguard: yes Shimakaze: No

[eager mulch]

shimakaze isn’t a rerun I thought

[forest palm]

it really ain't

[silver lintel]

@viscid swift

[viscid swift]

what

[eternal basalt]

Missed rrerun, just read UR

[forest palm]

EN moment

[viscid swift]

why was that a ping

[eager mulch]

[exotic wren]

to make you pause your anime what else, smh

[whole crypt]

poggies a Vichya specific event?

[eternal basalt]

That's what it says

[whole crypt]

I wonder if that's what the upcoming stream will be about

[eternal basalt]

#gameplay-help message

And the August event will be OUR stream...

[shell willow]

french UR retro would be neat, its been so long since yuudachi

[whole crypt]

rainbow retrofits have never been a regular thing anyway

[eternal basalt]

Retro's are for JP anni, but yeah, UR retro seems unlikely

[whole crypt]

it's just a "nice if we got one" thing nowadays

[calm rose]

Was the first UR retro warspite or sandy

[whole crypt]

pretty sure Warspite wasn't JP anniversary

[shell willow]

sandy

[whole crypt]

Sparkling Battle Star was JP first anniv

[eternal basalt]

Sandy for your b-day... the horror

[heavy zealot]

Do i limit break her?

[crimson glacier]

if you dont have other UR BBs

[heavy zealot]

I mean, its a dupe

[whole crypt]

do you have another copy that's not MLB

[heavy zealot]

Ye,

[whole crypt]

then use this to LB

[rain bobcat]

mushi biszwei soyuz or vg zwei mushi/soyuz for medium?

[icy mountain]

vg zwei soyuz should be better no?

[rain bobcat]

does vg buff really offset mushi's massive dmg advantage

[steady beacon]

Used properly she does, yes

[rain bobcat]

what does proper entail

[icy mountain]

unfortunately musashi is restricted by faction gear

[steady beacon]

Legit wrote a whole paper on this
But some key factors are keeping the backline well-synced with Vanguard and the vanguard output being sufficient (considering both the vanguard itself and the circumstances of the fight) to make the most of Vanguard's debuff

[gilded shale]

which auxiliary gear should I craft?

[elder gyro]

anyone have a good fleet suggestion to farm plymouth in 12-4?

[viscid swift]

3 Royal Navy vanguards that need leveling and 3 main fleets that also need leveling

[shell willow]

for 15-2 boss is there some kind of tell when ise/hyuuga will fire? i cant see anything from all the projectiles/planes/lag lol

[soft raft]

Without knowing what you have and how much you have of each, cant go wrong with toolboxes, Hydraulic steering, and steam catapults

And like 3 HSFCRs

[gilded shale]

I got all the materials, from blue to purple. Just don't know which one is the most beneficial.

[tall sandal]

I am level 34 and I'm not sure what kind of things I should be spending my oil on

[exotic wren]

Nothing else but grinding maps

[soft raft]

grind grind grind and get to W9 asap

[tall sandal]

I can do all the things that are limited like hard mode and dailies but for the regular missions..

I heard of grinding to get commissions that drop cubes and stuff, but not sure if just doing harder ones instead is better

[exotic wren]

Oh no

[soft raft]

purple, gold, gold, and gold rarity respectively for the gears I mentioned

nothing else that's craftable really sees much use except maybe fire extingushers for W10-11

[exotic wren]

You shouldn't be grinding maps for commissions,

You shouldn't be grinding maps before world 9

[soft raft]

With your lvl, dont bother with grinding for comissions, that's mostly a myth with no substantial evidence to warrant specifically focusing on

[tall sandal]

oh ok : )

[viscid swift]

you may as well just take SSs and post all of what you have, much more efficient this way

[tall sandal]

I make oil faster than I have time to play the game tho so I always have extra to afk

[soft raft]

are you even at W9 yet?
If not, you're not really in a position to afak unless you're blocked by commander lvl requirement

[tall sandal]

I'm working up there but I have a bunch of extra just sitting around because I don't have time to play that much to burn it all on new stages

[silk helm]

Any of these give ur prints?

[viscid swift]

they could potentially

[warm flax]

Can I move to pr6?

[viscid swift]

you can move on but I would reccomend PR7 not 6

also you finished PR4 yes?

[warm flax]

Yeah no

Fs5 Haku left

[viscid swift]

do you have 2 Tenrais? and how many prints off from finishing Haku?

[warm flax]

188 prints, I have 2 Tenrais

19/50 for 3rd Ply gun

[viscid swift]

move onto 7, you can finish Haku's fate sim with prints from reruns and the medal shop

[warm flax]

Alright but why 7

[viscid swift]

overall it's better than 6

[sweet epoch]

do you need to 3star a stage for the ssr to drop i.e 14-4/15-4

[viscid swift]

no

[strange sphinx]

Luck

[sweet epoch]

i need to get luckier then

[strange sphinx]

[stoic badger]

what is the best map for grinding exp

[eternal basalt]

It does increase your chance if S-Rank

[viscid swift]

12-1 or 12-4

[short matrix]

are the high angle aa guns good for anything?

[left cedar]

probally 12-1 overall for XP, cuz each single oil have a better XP Rate
but either 13-1, 12-1 or 12-4 works

[strange sphinx]

man I focused on Pr6... so how good is the Rainbow CA gun?

[viscid swift]

you mean the fuze AA guns? no

[finite crag]

is the support fleet in w15 affected by level advantage

cool thanks

[viscid swift]

it's good

[strange sphinx]

44/50 so might aswell Take it before I move in PR 4 focus

[worldly pewter]

the question is can u defeat the c6 abyssal

[silk helm]

lets just say... not in one go 😂

[worldly pewter]

u have 2 mobs in the corners to reset the fleets

[silk helm]

have tolls of war debuff too 😦

[sweet delta]

pay 50 AP or just don't let your ships die

[worldly pewter]

manual and don't die

[silk helm]

ill try that for the next c6 abyssal (paid 50 ap last time)

[worldly pewter]

as long as u can defeat it with the mechanics available

[quasi slate]

Which formation is generally the best to use? Single double or circular?

[silk helm]

for what content?

[rain vine]

double in most cases
circular if you need aa

[left cedar]

farming single
pushing Double or Circle for AA(mostly W13 and W15 only)

[quasi slate]

Hard mode campaign

[rain vine]

isnt single line useless?

[quasi slate]

I’ve always just used double but I was wondering if anyone saw upsides from single mainly

[left cedar]

buff FP in Vang ships so isnt useless if u are farming ... in thousands of run that make u bit faster

[sweet delta]

I farm with lower level not tanky ships, so single would kill them

[left cedar]

in 12-1 ? idk man ...

[novel condor]

just try single line and see if they die or take too much dmg

[forest palm]

I'll be honest I tend forget about that mechanic

[left cedar]

i also forgot that, so when new chap came i generally get fucked cuz my fleets are in single

[stoic badger]

Can someone help me form a team for chapter 10 played for a while but still dont know 70% of the gameplay

[viscid swift]

do you have any UR and SR Bullins to work with?

[stoic badger]

Only have sr bullin

[viscid swift]

how many?

[stoic badger]

5+

[viscid swift]

exact number please

[stoic badger]

4

[rose whale]

From AL's booth in cn. Seems like nakhimov + kearsarge + soyuz + halford + plymouth + kuybyshev. I'm curious, is this a good fleet? 🤔

[stoic badger]

i just used 1

[viscid swift]

on what?

[plain saffron]

1, depends on content, 2, we only know some numbers for new ships

[stoic badger]

i19

[viscid swift]

rip, well that's -1 bullin

[stoic badger]

idk

[viscid swift]

let's move this to a thread now though

[strong jasper]

i barely know anything about stats but would la malin be better or slightly worse than laffey if she is retroffited?

[plain saffron]

don't look at stats only

[viscid swift]

fleet help

[vale spindle]

worse than laffey retrofit because you also have to look at skills

[novel condor]

Laff retro better than Malin overall, stats n skills included

[strong jasper]

thanks was just wondering as i saw that her live 2d bunny skin would come back, and im close to retrofitting laffey so was wondering, as i would 100% go and work hard to build la malin alongside buying her skin if she was just a little bit better

[vale spindle]

you can use malin if you think shes hot or something, but just know that objectively speaking gameplay wise she is worse than a laffey retrofit :)

[spice phoenix]

what is ideal aux gear for an indep-uni mob fleet?

[inland shoal]

4x steam cata

[silk helm]

why doesn't the gear lab guide recommend any guns to craft for ca?

[vale spindle]

cause twin 203 from kms tech box is good enough
also i do recommend going ijn twin 203 purple -> twin 203 purple kai

and going from there to no3 gun if you have the mats and really need it for some reason

dont i also have algerie gun mentioned too

you might have to open the image in a new tab to see the updated version

[vivid aspen]

shima comin in perm UR pool? #game-news message

[tame jungle]

what was the reset timer for opsi sub support again? an hour?

nvm i found it

[cedar willow]

can i ignore affinity/morale messages in auto mode?

[forest palm]

there's no way to remove it, nor should you continue to use those ships if that pop up occures

[cedar willow]

ic

[sonic fossil]

im pretty sure they stop gaining exp when their morale hits 0 💀

[forest palm]

they continue to gain xp, however they start losing affinity

the xp recieved however is halved

[tame jungle]

the xp gained is also halved indeed + your boat women will hate you

[rain vine]

more importantly, you will keep getting the low morale popup every time they enter a new battle, so you cant auto

[dire burrow]

Is there a way for strategic search to not pause when I land on the one that says submit item for hidden materials

[tame jungle]

yeah it should be something along the lines of "automatically use items in auto search"

no wait i'm wrong

it's this one, set that to "no"

[sonic fossil]

[dire burrow]

Tyty

[gentle tendon]

Is there any ijn healer carrier?

[viscid swift]

Shouhou, Ryuuhou

[surreal dragon]

Is it worth it getting the spearfish bomber or it's better to get the drake gun from the gear lab? Trying to figure out what to use the UR ordinance testing reports.
I have a Hindenburg gun already but don't have the drake gun.

[keen sable]

#wiki-feedback

[silk helm]

Any diff between the two purple Qs?

[rain vine]

the plates you use

[silk helm]

Okaythx

[calm rose]

is Gorizia the only ship with such a ridiculous homing strength on her Barrage(AoA)? it can completely miss the enemy and still hit them in the back

[soft raft]

It would certainly be a fleet
and would be terribly unoptimized for most things outside of campaign up to W12 and non-tryhard OpSi mob

Plus no one even has any of the new PR7 ships so it's difficult to tell how good they are in practice

[eager mulch]

how do you know that no one has them

[pseudo hearth]

He's got Clairvoyance, obviously

[loud scarab]

i've been stuck with this for a while now, what would be the quickest simplest least oil way to complete it?

[crimson glacier]

id just do it on w12 while farming exp

[forest palm]

not me waiting 48 hrs to unlock Napoli

[eager mulch]

auto call subs and play normally

[keen sable]

Seriously? You can't handle real ship girls.

[trim sparrow]

Sup guys you think the middle row minus avora would be a decent two fleeter to farm Nap? Or should i use others?

[loud rover]

I would say use whatever is below 120 while you’re grinding

[signal pollen]

Should I cog awaken my unicorn to 125

[viscid swift]

eventually yes

[signal pollen]

I’ll do it rn. Thanks

[forest palm]

here's all the relevant ships
#gameplay-help message

[slender heart]

When a debuff bullet hits, does it register the debuff first or the damage first?

[cobalt rapids]

damage first i belive

[slender heart]

Thanks

[honest stirrup]

So... Am I supposed to go battle like this or do I need to change my CVs
And if it's the second option then what do I change? Each CV I've sent seemed pretty important to me

[cobalt rapids]

why do u have 2 healers

is this w13 h ? use a healer only in mob

[honest stirrup]

oh ok

[cobalt rapids]

ig its 4 healers actually

[honest stirrup]

I'll probably swap Unicorn for Hakuryuu and idk about Volga, I'll see

[cobalt rapids]

volga can stay

[still merlin]

why does the commission with 8hrs sometimes doesn't reset after reset time?

[cobalt rapids]

just give uni to mob instead of percy and yea use haku

[still merlin]

that's pretty frustrating

[rain vine]

would use volga and uni in mob, aquila in boss if you really need her

[cobalt rapids]

coz u were logged in when reset happend

[still merlin]

I mean, I even relog or wait after the reset time to log on but sometimes it's still no change

[keen sable]

Unicorn is better than perseus so that's a bad idea

[honest stirrup]

I've set Unicorn in the mob fleet

I don't have a lot of boss fleet CV though. I guess I'll go with AvP

[stark quiver]

bit late but, you dont need acv, but its better cuz u dont get bombed everytime u move on map

[honest stirrup]

isn't the bombing thing just recon, and ACV being important for aerial supremacy?
Not sure I want to fight Taihou while not making her planes deal less damage beforehand

[cobalt rapids]

yes you ideally want both recon and acv green to make ur life easier

[slow fox]

no neko

[stark quiver]

dont be like me

[eager mulch]

no neko?

[sweet delta]

Do duke's shells from the first volley do different damage on medium/light?

[cobalt rapids]

i tested with sushi

mby its on case by case basis ?

[slender heart]

Crap

[cobalt rapids]

no actually its the same for dork aswell

first shell

2nd

[stark quiver]

can u use subs in harbiter fight

nice, i just learned abt it lol

[sand wraith]

I don't quite understand this gun's passive: it grants a bonus if equipped by a DD (Destroyer) yet it also says below DDs CAN'T equip it so like, is it a mistranslation or something?

[keen sable]

Something

[cobalt rapids]

nope just a case of misinformative UI

[noble tulip]

There are a few dd's that can actually equip it

[sand wraith]

Who are they? I might have them

[noble tulip]

Notably Felix Schultz and Otto

[keen sable]

Several ca and cb also...

[sand wraith]

I have Otto but not Felix

[keen sable]

Cvl

[loud rover]

German DDs can equip CL guns. It’s Felix’s gun

[viscid swift]

Type 1936A DDs like Z23 can equip it

[sand wraith]

I'm still trying to get Anchorage currently so Felix might be a while

[eager mulch]

trying to get ancho but has a pr6 gun makes sense

[vale spindle]

It does cause you get 300 prints + coinup so why not focus pr6

[eager mulch]

I didn’t say it didn’t make sense

[vale spindle]

i hate English

[loud rover]

worst first language ever

[knotty dome]

i have a lot of gold bulins stocked in dockyard and merit points. other than mlb things that are new or recently rerun, is there any overall strategy on how i should spend them? like, for ships that are in perm pool mlb2 them in case of dupes (and raise elites in the meantime), or to focus on main fleets first and raise elite vanguards in the meantime, something like that?

[eager mulch]

ships with tech

[knotty dome]

any point distinguishing between main and vanguards or not really?

[cobalt rapids]

backline over front line prio for tech applies for gold bunins aswell

[knotty dome]

ok thanks

[granite summit]

so...... SAP CL gun now? looks okayish against medium armor but not that good overall at all or am i seeing wrong?

[cobalt rapids]

not seeing wrong

[granite summit]

so much for hoping for new shiny stuff from VII

[cobalt rapids]

but its superseeded by plygun like all cl guns

i mean overall pr7 gear is pretty good

[elfin hollow]

otto von can equip it

use it for otto

[willow dock]

How do we already know pr7 gear is good?

[patent pivot]

just checked, another NP slow has to be active

[keen sable]

Math

[soft raft]

because the gear doesnt take 2+ months to be fully ready to use
And people prob already have copies of said gear from spamming gear researches

And also math

[silk helm]

flunked outta math so im relying on the geniuses here

[patent pivot]

admin comp tests are further delayed because doing things is hard

[willow dock]

It hasn't even been a week.. :v

[noble tulip]

The math isn't exactly complicated

[willow dock]

I mean who would already have the gear

[knotty dome]

what is howe's niche if any? is her skill ever better than just throwing in another rainbow bb?

[keen sable]

You don't need gear for math to work

[cobalt rapids]

howe doesnt replace any rainbow bb

[knotty dome]

so if you have all the ships there's never really a use case for any gold BBs?

[cobalt rapids]

yeap

[soft raft]

Outside of BC for hard mode reqs because there's no UR BC

[cobalt rapids]

ig we dont have a rainbow bc for hardmode reqs

[soft raft]

Hood Supremacy

[knotty dome]

ok thanks

[left cedar]

kinda i use gold BBs, even ELs ones, cuz i dont have any hardenough content to prevent me to use several waifus around, specially Op.Si ...

and nowadays with lack of ships to lvl, generally i'm using Blue or even commons in events

[slender heart]

Is there any image of enfeebled debuff mark already?

[left cedar]

Thuring, Belo, Brun and goes

[knotty dome]

who is goes

[left cedar]

much more examples than i have will to write it

[patent pivot]

pretty sure it does not have special icon

[slender heart]

So it's a guaranteed proc?

[patent pivot]

?

those are not at all correlated

[slender heart]

This one right?

[undone plover]

If u mean NP slow=enfeebled then yes
Outside of neko slow herself

[patent pivot]

yeah no special icon

[viscid swift]

thanks, RIP to those ideas then

[slender heart]

Yes i meant that. Nakhimov's is the crashed one

[slender heart]

I see, thank you

[undone plover]

Btw are rockets like torps where they can miss on slow as well?

[patent pivot]

also if yall have any admin tests that arent alr listed yell at me and ill run them when i get stupid simulated cats and crossfleets working

Shinano/haku/implac
guam/kaza/unzen

Shinano/admiral/soyuz
Guam/kaza/uzen

Haku/admiral/soyuz
Guam/kaza/uzin

Shinano/haku/implac
Helena/kaza/sirius

Haku/admiral/soyuz
Helena/kaza/sirius

[slender heart]

This is against med/heavy?

[patent pivot]

currently yes, im running a couple med tests to be sure but everything listed is for heavy

[left cedar]

if u mean by skills, probally should be something if the need hit and target moves fast or teleport, like CL Siren or Helena Showdown for examples

[undone plover]

Oh true some bosses have that gimmick

[left cedar]

some slows need just to lauch for example, AvP, others need hit the target

[loud rover]

i'll be able to mlb another UR next month, my main concern is between alsace and vanguard, but i also have laff2, nj, and mogador so who should i mlb? my other UR BBs are fdg and uvh
i will have enough cubes/tickets to get vanguard when her reun drops

[undone plover]

I meant more for a mostly rocketplane fleet is slow good enough or do I still need stops like plac?

[slender heart]

If the enemy move fast enough rockets does miss faerlein. At least slow them down if not stop

For slow moving target, no. Just launch

[left cedar]

mostly of imes, yes u need the target freezy, cuz different from bombs that have a huge AoE, rockets are a tiny box, so if they move a bit all ur dmg goes to 0

[undone plover]

Good point

[signal pollen]

Does Azur lane ever do gem special offer for dock space?

[undone plover]

Imo Alsace —-> Vanguard
U could also wait and see if u get any vanguard dupes and MLB her first if u do

[left cedar]

if u mean discounts, them no, never see it

[reef flume]

W take

[signal pollen]

Aw. I was hoping they made more special offers like buy two oath rings for a slight discount

[soft raft]

is this counting her debuff being peramently active or nah

[hollow gust]

Alsace only cause your other UR BBs are old asf

[undone plover]

I meant prio for MLB
Ask yahoo about 1v1 comparisons

[soft raft]

oh lol

[reef flume]

Musashi is old af but no BBs powercrept her except Zwei so nah

[loud rover]

grey being a meanie

[cyan sierra]

Alsace does do great damage on her own unlike vanguard.

[slender heart]

Against light

[lyric stump]

yo guys will cv and bb change?
meta was alsace + soyuz + bis2 for bb and shinano + haku + incomp
will now take musa bac like alsace(vanguard) + musa + bis2 and nakhi + soyuz + haku

[soft raft]

Pending testing
Alsace is still a bit contensious and we'll have to see how viable forcing Nahkimov freeze is for CV comp since it's more gimmicky than Implacable but I doubt it'll change much

[lyric stump]

also i heard kearsarge with la9 can eat helena's radar

[soft raft]

[lyric stump]

u need soyuz to get a 100% freeze

[soft raft]

the fuck you mean eat

[lyric stump]

i mean use

[hollow gust]

You still use Musashi in opsi if you have all the BBs ?

[soft raft]

Either Soyuz, Chkalov FS5, or Kron Crossfleet, not just Soyuz

[reef flume]

I don't have Musashi (I'm on lil enty)

[lyric stump]

hm?

[reef flume]

But if I had her I surely would

[left cedar]

Kron cross fleets isnt gona be synced

[soft raft]

Soyuz isnt the only NP ship with a low, that's what I mean

[hollow gust]

It's now a mix of Soyuz Zwei Alsace and Vanguard

[reef flume]

She is still great

[hollow gust]

Musashi is still giga busted in mobbing but if you had a choice you won't use her in meta fights or Opsi

[lyric stump]

doesnt nakhi also have?

[undone plover]

Kron cross would only work for 1st rotation (if it can even be synced)

[lyric stump]

ive kicked my vanguard out already lol

[hollow gust]

[reef flume]

Only mobbing? Nah, she is perfect for bossing with Yamato gun or Izumo gun (and maybe with Daisen gun too if it's strong)

[hollow gust]

[slender heart]

Against heavy

[lyric stump]

daisen is a better izumo gun basically

[reef flume]

Yes, her debuff is not as high as ships like Vanguard or Alsace but she compensate with having the highest damage in game

[soft raft]

not exactly

[hollow gust]

Disann is a 457 for Musashi, how is it a Izumi gun??

[lyric stump]

for me musa isnt being used but if soyuz gonna go cv then musa will be brought back

[soft raft]

Yamatao gun takes too fucking long to sync
Daisen gun is too quick to sync

[hollow gust]

Bro doesn't even know how to sync bbs

[lyric stump]

or we wait for a shikishima or satsuma or maybe a yamato (all 3 will be 99% not gonna happen this september

[reef flume]

For her debuff yes but her high damage is still present

[reef flume]

Bro got mad

[lyric stump]

maybe we get a long radar later who knows that goes with a long reload boost

[hollow gust]

wut? seems like you are mad that i said musashi isnt a tip top choice for meta and opsi. There are now better combos then her

[patent pivot]

where is alsace ceontensious

[slender heart]

Run her against med/light, and post the results here. Compare it to bzwei/alsace/vanguard

Because I've seen the test result

[soft raft]

I mean from what I've seen, i havent seen a definitive answer to Alsace or Vanguard to fufill the buffer slot

[reef flume]

Didn't got mad

[hollow gust]

hell even in heavy due to the izumo gun performance musashi is a coinflip

[slender heart]

You use musashi against heavy, yet you can use bzwei/alsace/vanguard for light and med

[patent pivot]

musashi only in heavy if you are NOT running hinde and you do not need BiZ hole

[hollow gust]

it doesnt matter if she has the highest potential output if she isnt hitting her stuff

[reef flume]

Daisen gun/Yamato gun+fire control radar or table (for the first salvo)
Problem solved

[hollow gust]

that desyncs

yamato gun syncs better with CVS then BBs

[patent pivot]

also putting this out here again, alsace perma debuff is a trap

[hollow gust]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/battleship/
try again

[patent pivot]

results at best were compareable to non perma comps and that was only on a comp specifically designed to use perma

[crimson glacier]

whats happening

[hollow gust]

isnt her debuff only gonna be reliably procced after 2nd ?

[patent pivot]

what?

its on a priority targeting insta hit laser

thats about as reliable as it gets

[hollow gust]

i mean full effect of Divine sanction

[patent pivot]

if you want to argue that long form fights (CM) would rather use twin flangun and neuter dmg to get buff then go ham, but results are not in your favor and i do not believe for 4 salvo (the longest i would call a normal fight length) is going to bump twin flangun up enough

[granite summit]

Polikarpov VIT-2 (Mode Change Prototype) got no AA guns installed? there any point to use over the junkers?

[viscid swift]

it's another timing sidegrade

highest damage of any of the converging TBs but also the slowest

[soft raft]

Timing adjustment
And also in the enviroment where you care about syncing and timing, AA is not as much of a concern

Also Figheter planes exist to take care of enemy planes

[granite summit]

right i sometimes forget theres cases where you want to be slower.... do they have later dropoff too or are they like ryu?

[viscid swift]

what

[wispy creek]

what is a "long range AA gun" for North Carolina's skill

[soft raft]

Out of curiosity (and yes Ik "Wait until testing") if Im to move Hindenburg to OpSi BB fleet, who would have the higher DPS to take her spot in OpSi Mob, Drake, Napoli, or someone else? (in a fleet comp of Brest and Unzen)

[inner delta]

hinden ofc

[patent pivot]

napoli is barely above agir in terms of dps (against med)

[soft raft]

AA guns with a circle like this
They're extremely extremely niche and not really worth craftin in general, even for NoCal who herself is already extremely niche

[patent pivot]

chart if you care

[wispy creek]

im leveling her just to level her and might as well craft one to use her as a healer

[soft raft]

W12 safe farming isnt difficult enough to warrant a healer

[wispy creek]

it is when im running level 90 NP ships

[soft raft]

Just have Unicorn babysit them

[wispy creek]

but the point of doing this is to level ship. NC should be enough to keep them alive for a few levels

ive got a gazillion prints and im sitting on like 300K coins so its no harm

[soft raft]

If you're worried about Unicorn stealing MvP, welp MvP control is a waste of time

[wispy creek]

no, more im trying to level 6 ships at a time instead of 5. if i dont need uni, why use her

[soft raft]

fair enough
but your levelling fodder shouldnt be struggling with W12 enough to warrant a healer if they're at least lvl 100

[torn phoenix]

is it possible to just give Unicorn abysmal gear to have the healing but remove her damage capabilities

[hollow gust]

just dont give her anything lmao, but thats a waste of time

[wispy creek]

thats the thing. theyre not level 100 atm. i think ive got Gorizia at 113, Popeo at like 109, Kursk at 90, NC at 111, Poltava at 99 and sevastapol similar.

NC is keeping them alive just fine this run.

[hollow gust]

NC being useful

[keen sable]

Halford is monster dps?

[wispy creek]

shes cute AF, that makes NC useful

[soft raft]

use her if you want ig, I just personally find shilling the money for her augment a waste regardless of how many resources you have considering how little you'll end up using her

[wispy creek]

i mean, im chasing 100% fleet tech at this point, i hardly have things to spend on

[viscid swift]

I rather doubt you need a healer

I've run far worse in W12 without a healer no issues

[shell willow]

blue or purple G for gear?

[jaunty vault]

purp

[shell willow]

[left cedar]

if its only for Gear, them Purple G, if timewise to others reason for example D30 that PR, them Blue

[keen sable]

You believe 4g is better than cycling for Q?

[left cedar]

if gear focus, then G have more gears so u can take more prints from it, but if ur objective is UR Gear + D30 that PR Season, them go for Blue G

G have low chances to give Ships Prints, and they can also give u Ships that already being D30, so its quite waste of time to bet on that, so go for faces + Q if that is ur focus

[faint jacinth]

who to build on pr2
not unlocked fdg yet

[viscid swift]

FDG then

[loud rover]

Fdg probably the only ship in that season you’ll want

[pseudo hearth]

I'm actually sort of curious, do you guys think Monarch is still viable for end game, or is she too dated for today's end game?

[hollow gust]

She's only better then hood on medium and heavy

Also azuma still being doubted

[viscid swift]

depends on what you define as "end game"

[pseudo hearth]

W14/15; later OpSi

[left cedar]

end game isnt 15-3 and 15-4 ?
them if no ... idk how to define as "end game"

[stark quiver]

opsi maybe, w15 no, dunno abt 14

every1 has their own end game

[viscid swift]

for W14 I would rather take Nelson retro

for OpSi I would rather take a fully kitted out Izumo

[left cedar]

imo 15-1 and 15-2 are training room for true W15
W14 is already a farming option ... so stupid easy to be called as "end game"
and Op.Si is already easy enough to be beated with only 1 fleet for 99% of time

[pseudo hearth]

It's almost tragic though. Monarch used to be one of if not the best BB in the game, but now she seems to fall short of everything you'd want her to do.

She hasn't aged as well as some of the other Research BBs

[viscid swift]

she's also over 6 years old

[stark quiver]

mfw backline goes boom in 15-2

[left cedar]

going from the fact that my KMS Only did 15-2 its training room

[pseudo hearth]

Yes...
The only cope left for her is the fact that she will probably get an augment at some point in the near future. Which, even then you have to hope they don't drop the ball.

[loud rover]

I mean I use monarch in a second BB fleet, but only cause of Howe and the buff she gets when paired with monarch or kgv BBs

[stark quiver]

i have monarch at d15 since i first started

[pseudo hearth]

Speaking of Research ships, what's a good team for the XP farm for Gascogne?
She gets XP from French and Russian Backline, but I don't have any of the UR options, and my Russian ships are sort of limited.

[stark quiver]

shitters who want to be leveled for tech

[pseudo hearth]

Trying that, Backline keeps dying

Usually at the 5th fight or so

[left cedar]

that seens ... odd, wut are u trying and gears

[pseudo hearth]

Rich Mid, Clem side, Painleve side

[left cedar]

for comparation why i'm saying that

[pseudo hearth]

Gear wise, it isn't bad either

[stark quiver]

what level are they

[left cedar]

wut isnt bad either ?

[viscid swift]

where are you leveling them at?

[pseudo hearth]

Clem and Rich are 100, Pain is 85

[left cedar]

inb4 quad guns comets and me155 all around

[stark quiver]

you 1, spam cross fleet
2, use a really good vanguard

[pseudo hearth]

12-1, after I realized they died way too much on 12-4

[viscid swift]

sounds like gear is the issue

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, I have ok gear, it's not like I have terrible gear on them

[left cedar]

so are we talking about Tri406mk6, Helldivers and Hellcats etc ?

[pseudo hearth]

I can't give exacts, I'm away from my tablet at the moment

[left cedar]

cuz u know, trully gud gears for mid game are purple majority of time, not gold ...

[pseudo hearth]

I've been playing since around the release of EN, I understand the concept.

[faint jacinth]

oh ye what happen on max fate5 pr ship, do their bp still appear or not on research?

[inland shoal]

They don't
So long as you still have an unfinished ship in the same season

[pseudo hearth]

I disagree, I still get Anchorage BPs every now and then, even though she's max, and I still have Marco Polo left to do there.

Now, you don't get the focus research for that specific ship. But you can still get their stuff from the random BP research.

[inland shoal]

A ship counts as finished as long as you have enough BPs to do it no matter if you actually use them or not

[vagrant panther]

Tenrais is stop at 2 and move on to season 7 right? Assuming I have nothing else for season 4

[pseudo hearth]

I definitely don't have enough BPs to max Marco

[vagrant panther]

Including purchased proto shop

[viscid swift]

yes

[inland shoal]

Well their bp appear from random researches ofc just the faces disappear ye

[little tree]

Are any of these good enough I need exp for fdg I don't have iron blood main fleets levlednaf all

Gotta farm exp

Or I could just use my 300 combat exp packs

[viscid swift]

not really, Thurringen and Tirpitz are FP tech though

[hollow gust]

Any of these you can use for fleet tech

[little tree]

I'm need to use them in a fleet I have fdg being researched

Can I farm w 12 with them

[warm flax]

Maybe not

[viscid swift]

yes, at current levels though probably not

[hollow gust]

With those levels hell no

[little tree]

I could use combat data for the 1.2 mil I need

[left cedar]

anything that is KMS can be used to Farm KMS PRs ... even if they are shitty, but if u wanna do it for gud techs, them go by RLD, FP/AVI

[viscid swift]

please don't, the prototype cores are much more valuable

takes this as a lesson in how to prep ships for leveling

[silk sphinx]

Is cvl rld really valued?

[viscid swift]

before they're needed start getting levels on them with the dorm and/or XP packs

[silk sphinx]

Not sure why you’d include them

[little tree]

I thought z23 iron blood would count but it has to be main fleet

[viscid swift]

slowly get them up to around 90-100 and then you can pretty comfortably start farming W12 with them

[little tree]

Okay thank you!!

[silk sphinx]

Worse case add in unicorn or some other good ship as a handicap till they’re higher level

[left cedar]

idk, probally a bad mainfleet with gud AA vang can deal with 12-1

something like Guam or Shimanto or Sandy pretty much deal with any issue to bad main into 12-1

[viscid swift]

good gear is my carry

[silk sphinx]

Oh right farming main fleet here

Also set formation to circular ig

[noble tulip]

Run 1-2 cv on your main fleet and stick a flapjack on them and you'll be just fine

[silk sphinx]

They want to farm IB main fleet exp

[left cedar]

i dont expect everyone to have all ships in they docks gearead at least with really gud gears, so thats why i'm give them alternatives

[viscid swift]

and they only have battleships to work with

[noble tulip]

Yeah their choice is pretty much unicorn carry or aa carry atp

[earnest flare]

is it worth keeping all the random purple u boats for anything

[left cedar]

maybe Thurin solo and averange AA vang but gud surface dmg can deal with 12-1

[silk sphinx]

As esdeath put it just use good vanguards

[silk sphinx]

Eh some are easy to reacquire, some are not

They’re pretty useless though as a general rule though

[earnest flare]

I don’t really plan on ever grinding ss tech

[silk sphinx]

But if you’re not a collector then sure trash them

[left cedar]

imagine, dont pushing hard for tech even for SSs, smh

[silk sphinx]

Considering you’re one of those who doesn’t spend their gems on dock space and trashes a lot of ships, that’s rich of you

[little tree]

120 sandy as my only aa Will work on 12 1 safe ?

[left cedar]

if u are farming really bad main fleet with low lvl or low AA capabilities, for example WW1 ships from Emden event, yeah

[earnest flare]

what’s generally the best gear lab to craft with ur ordnances? or better to wait to craft a tenrai once it gets added

[little tree]

With the new ur being added to the pool will the old ones go away ?

[viscid swift]

T3 Ordinances, a 457 or 2

[soft raft]

no why would they do that when they've already been added to perma pools

[left cedar]

u mean NJ, and Shin ?
no, they will keep being add there and everything it will be there to be a option to u take

in a distant future like 6y+ u can expect like 10 UR Ships

[light trail]

rerun events are shorter than first runs right?

[forest palm]

1 week

milestones are reduced as well

[light trail]

is there usually another event right after

[viscid swift]

most likely

[light trail]

oh also, im assuming not, but if you missed the first UR equip, will a second one show up available for purchase?

[viscid swift]

no

[light trail]

damn fml

[little tree]

This worth crafting for tripitz

[left cedar]

kinda Tirp itself isnt worth it
that noted
if u like Tirp and really wanna use her even knowing she is shit, them yeah, its worth it

[little tree]

I don't want to use her but I have to for fdg

[left cedar]

not needed, way to expensive

[keen sable]

Better to craft what you need

[keen sable]

Boss? Sure sandy could solo boss even before augments and newfangled gear.

[little tree]

It was mob it did good

Only got 1 % a run fdg will take a while

[normal crane]

Is Ägir usable at dev25? Or she needs dev30

[left cedar]

define usable ?
for lvling ? any its usable if u got some lvls
for easy content like W12 pushing (idk how someone it will do this shit) D15 already enough

for hard/end game basicall only D30

[stark quiver]

do i get oil cap on a stage after i full clear it

[forest palm]

if it's available for the stage sure

[stark quiver]

oh nice

[soft raft]

she has all of her bulk at D25 but D30 is still Strongly reccomended

[lost folio]

Does anybody know why my bottom battleships started firing purple?

[normal crane]

I'm still at w12 yeah, for now im preparing for W13, i just farm on 12-1 atm

[forest palm]

sounds like SAP ammo, what are you using on that ship

[forest palm]

yup that looks like SAP

[viscid swift]

you're using a SAP gun on her, that's why

[soft raft]

Ah yes marco Polo gun
stop using it

[lost folio]

Oh ok i started putting those guns on some of my bb.. thanks!!

[lost folio]

why?

[left cedar]

dosnt seens a gud thing use Agir for W13 in general, and in W14 maybe only in bosses, but still i dont recomendd her to 14-3 boss since its a DD duo with high TRP dmg ...

[soft raft]

its good against medium armor and only against medium
Meanwhile champagne gun is good against both medium and heavy armor

[normal crane]

[lost folio]

ah ok thank you!

[normal crane]

Is there any guide for w13?

[left cedar]

W13 its quite old and quite easy nowadays, we got ALOT of strong aa options for ships or planes with gud AAs to cover, aside we got several powerups for our CVs and alot of tech, so not needed, pretty much 3 CVs with AA capailities and strong dmg, and 1 Strong BBs for Bosses cuz in bosses have AA boat in some waves

[normal crane]

[agile sky]

when doing opsi, you'll naturally get the coordinates just going around doing stuff right?Like is there a way/need to maximize it or nah?

[eager mulch]

you can only get 200 a day so not really a need to optimize it

[forest palm]

isn't there multiple things named coordinates in ops

[glossy spear]

Is Laffey worth limit breaking with bulins?

[stark quiver]

laffey2 yes , laffey1 yes if new/no better options

[agile sky]

in any case then, how do yall usually go about doing opsi in terms of the stages? Like u do daily missions? U go for the yellow/red/pink chest stages? The file zones? or the siren stages?

[glossy spear]

My options right now is laffey1, z1, and z23

[eager mulch]

all of the above

[stark quiver]

go for r3 loggers + above, do dailies, abyssals, strongholds, then just farm c5 for stuff

[keen sable]

That didn't really clarify. But you believe for gear 4G is better than 1.5G + 2.5Q or maybe 1.5G ×2 + 1Q as worst case if you think q is low probability.

[stark quiver]

oh yea also, for buying loggers in shops, i should sdtill buy the r2 loggers, but jsut dont use them correct?

[novel solstice]

If you aren't going to use them, not much point in buying them.

[stark quiver]

vouchers exist

anyways i forgot if the exchange rate for buying them is better or not so someone tell me pls

[novel solstice]

If you are farming c5 at the end of the month, you're getting so many vouchers that you don't need to buy stuff just to see it convert.

[stark quiver]

how much ap boxes do i want at end of month, cuz i have none rn

and my only option is pray for akashi

[left cedar]

ops, yeah i did forgot the 4 b4 the first G, so it will be
"if gear focus, then 4G have more gears so u can take more prints from it, but if ur objective is UR Gear + D30 that PR Season, them go for Blue G"

if u keep rotation and choising the lowest time G, Q fast it will be to u get Face researchs to finish that PR Season, or get more chances to get 30 min researchs

[lost folio]

did you buy the logger thing for 5000 oil? it gives you some ap packs iirc

[stark quiver]

used it to clear start of month

[hollow gust]

That's not that logger works

5000 oil essentially sweeps the map clearing all the stages , which means that the boxes you will usually get clearing the stages are automatically given to you

[formal zenith]

What's the best place to farm these?

[silk helm]

is worth to get?

[silk helm]

hard stages x-4

[hollow gust]

No? Not if you manually clean the map

[formal zenith]

Yeah but which specific one

[silk helm]

oh so it only allows u to auto it ?

[formal zenith]

Everyday I'm trying so many different ones and I haven't gotten any

[eager mulch]

it’s a quality of life purchase it doesn’t give anything more than not buying it

[lost folio]

oh, i somehow managed to clear everything including all the hidden zones with some ap boxes to spare

[agile sky]

what does the hiden/explorable/secured area option mean in opsi?

[eager mulch]

different zone types

[agile sky]

like...what is the difference? Difficulties or...?

[lost folio]

explorable means you haven't cleared it yet, secured means you cleared it

[stark quiver]

whats the most optimal way to farm for AP boxes, ik people end up with like 1k ap worth of stuff at the end of month, and i got 0, am i doing something wrong

[lost folio]

i get mine by clearing all the zones, daily missions, idk if sirens/arbiters give it to you but i do those too

[loud rover]

yeah, clearing zones and buying any and all from akashi stores and the ports

[woeful quarry]

read this for some good detail - https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren

[stark quiver]

i may have done all that

[lost folio]

are you using the ap boxes to strictly clear zones? or to also do hidden zones clear strongholds and abyssal zones?

[stark quiver]

my map is empty other than r2 zones that i dont bother clearing

[lost folio]

the zones could give you some boxes

other than that daily missions at this point

[signal pollen]

Is ad-1 skyraider a bis (for Yorktown2) or specifically only against light boss

[frank pulsar]

its bis db for light and med single target

youd use tenrai outside of that

[signal pollen]

So tenrai would be a good bis for everything?

[keen sable]

5000 oil let's you auto explorables without recon. But if you play 24x7 then recon isn't a problem and 5000 oil most certainly is

[frank pulsar]

tenrai works if youre lazy but its not bis for light and med single target
theres a large gap between them there

[signal pollen]

Damn I really wanted to cheapen how much I could build

[frank pulsar]

for reference, my albion is able to compete with my yorkii when she is given the skyraider on light/med

[keen sable]

Don't use them...

[frank pulsar]

cv is expensive to max, it is what it is

[signal pollen]

But it’s not like opsi has any heavy bosses right?

[viscid swift]

there are plenty

[keen sable]

Best brainless?

[signal pollen]

Drats!

[viscid swift]

arbiter is heavy 1/3 of the year

[warm flax]

Is Shima on the perma pity?

[viscid swift]

she will be after the upcoming update

[signal pollen]

Should my next plane be a fighter or the flex slot? I will probably focus light/medium boss first

[viscid swift]

is this for +13ing gear or

[little tree]

Is Shima good or is she good but been power crept by pr Dr?

[eager mulch]

La9/Skyraider/La9 yt2 would go hard

[viscid swift]

she's close to the bottom of the priority list for limit breaking

[signal pollen]

Just farming. I think maybe HVAR since I gotta get two of them for light bossing

[viscid swift]

farming what exactly?

[eager mulch]

farming HVAR he said

[viscid swift]

you can't even get the HVAR right now

[eager mulch]

you can’t

[signal pollen]

You can’t? I didn’t read 😔

[viscid swift]

yes it's event limited, same with the Skyraider

[signal pollen]

Aye I should read the fine text more

Well hers my current planes on my yorky

Wait the gear guide is this one? https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

I have been reading this one

[viscid swift]

yes

[light trail]

wait a sec, how many chapters are in opsi story mode

[stark quiver]

5 i think

[light trail]

ok phew im almost there i think

[stark quiver]

chapter 5 is just arbiter fight

[light trail]

about halfway thru chapter 4 rn

[vale spindle]

it will get updated this week too

[warm flax]

How many of this should I get?

[blissful hamlet]

the left you want them for your high dps vanguard assuming it's not plane heavy world

don't craft the right one

[warm flax]

Alright

So just for vanguard

[soft raft]

realistically i've only used that in META fights

[forest palm]

I have practically used the 134 everywhere, but 14, and 15

[tidal meteor]

Come back next Jan for HVAR farming

[loud rover]

probably later than that

[plain saffron]

I use those on all vg for farming

[sly parcel]

is it fine when using all purple gears?, idk when should i spend time for getting gold gears

[elfin hollow]

really dumb question, how do i find the main quests in operation siren?

[signal pollen]

:misery.:

[agile sky]

how come sometimes in opsi, when i turn on auto search, it'll say disabled because no more exploration targets even though there's an enemy right next to my fleet?

[viscid swift]

You should be using good gears and quite a few purple gears are really good

[viscid swift]

You mean campaign? Tap on the information tab and it'll show you the story missions

[viscid swift]

Is this in hidden nodes?

[warm flax]

Has there been a case where Haku's first slot doesn't use a fighter?

[viscid swift]

Yes

When she's being used against a single target heavy armor boss

[warm flax]

Endless grind for +13

[agile sky]

how do i tell if it is lol

[viscid swift]

That's a hidden node

[sly parcel]

i used the least gear of this list, it fine r?

[viscid swift]

well, not like you have much other choice, i'll serve for the short term

[sly parcel]

oh i see, ty

[glossy spear]

Does affinity matter that much?

[agile sky]

i was. Thnx.

When i click on the stage at the center of the big red swirl and it says to secure nearby zone, does it mean to 5/5 star all the stages touching it or....?

[frank pulsar]

yea, it gives 6% extra stats

[glossy spear]

Oh I didn’t know that because it was telling me if I continue battling my affinity will decrease

[frank pulsar]

you get exp at half the normal rate with 0 affinity as well, no point in doing that

[viscid swift]

no, you just need to clear a node next to it

[viscid swift]

0 Morale not affinity

[frank pulsar]

right mb

[vale spindle]

torpedo bomber when you need it for timing or something

[low bobcat]

Was kind of curious. How do you get a expansion token for your dorm?

[keen sable]

Keep tapping and buy it

[neat nacelle]

Commissions give tokens.

[low bobcat]

So the commission missions are most commonly the way to get the tokens in?

[vale spindle]

yes

[soft raft]

they're basically the main (and kinda the only) way of getting dorm tokens

[vale spindle]

also your daily missions too

[keen sable]

You need decor tokens to purchase expansion tokens but there's no shop to buy expansion tokens. You just try to use it

[low bobcat]

OK, I see how it works. I need 1000 decor token so I can expand. Finally managed to find by the entire dragon Empire set. But due to my dorm size, I can’t utilize everything.

This is as big as I can set up my dorm

[keen sable]

Tap the construction worker

[atomic rock]

Mainz pre-fs5?

[low bobcat]

Yes, I figured that part out now. It seems like I need 1000 decor tokens so I can expand.

[rain vine]

what about her?

[atomic rock]

she good enough to use?

[south sequoia]

Good enough to use but not impressive

[soft raft]

She's decent enough at D30, gets better at FS5, but ultimately she's powercrept

[keen sable]

Good enough to use for mainz cdc...

[rain vine]

use mainz for mainz cdc
makes sense

[south sequoia]

Using mainz for mainz cdc

[soft raft]

Mainzception

[vale spindle]

mainz muse

[pseudo hearth]

Use her to get your second Mainz

[kind needle]

What for ply?

Or should I go 155 kai

[rain vine]

right

[eager mulch]

what dev level is ply

[kind needle]

22

[eager mulch]

[rain vine]

wouldnt use ply at that point

[forest palm]

she certainly is usable at that point, but not recommendable

[eager mulch]

I personally would not use Plymouth unless she is dev 30 and with a ply gun

[forest palm]

eh...the 152 is optional the BB Buff is forever

[eager mulch]

I personally would not use Plymouth unless she is dev 30 and with a ply gun

[lime lichen]

Should I start research on FdG or AvP?

[signal pollen]

is the sb2c hell diver good vs all armor types?

[rain vine]

fdg

[vale spindle]

yes

[signal pollen]

aye, thanks

[kind needle]

Are +13 golddivers expensive?

[vale spindle]

yes especially since tenrai better

[zinc turret]

But why tenrai not red in +13 priority tho ?

[vale spindle]

cause rockets and converging tbs do more for you damage wise

[hollow gust]

How many people can actually run those tho.You can +13 way before you know how to sync airstrikes and maximize effects of converging

[plain saffron]

With the price a tenrai(1 slot) you can max 3 gold plane(3 slot, more dmg)

Even shit timing probably do more dmg

[vagrant spoke]

So in case of flex slot, torpedo planes better than dive bombers?

[plain saffron]

Mob db boss tb generally iirc

[vagrant spoke]

And where do rockets come in

[hollow sail]

the higher the enemy density the better dbs perform since they can hit multiple enemies (torps can as well technically but the splash range is very short)

[vagrant spoke]

And do fighters with bombs outperform rockets

[hollow sail]

rockets are for bossing

[soft raft]

Bossing when AA is NOT a concern
Which means META Showdown 99% of the time

[vagrant spoke]

So under the assumption aa is not a concern, generally:
Db = mob
Tb = boss
Rocket = boss

So between rocket vs tb which one would be better?

[hollow sail]

well tbs can be for mobs if they are parallel (they can also be used for campaign boss to kill dangerous non-boss enemies, when there's more than one boss enemy, when it moves a lot etc. but for META fights, opsi and such you want to use a ship that uses slow/freeze so converging torps all hit)

rocket vs tb is down to the armor modifiers basically, torps have better heavy armor damage, rockets are more light/medium armor

[vagrant spoke]

Mmm I sees… nvm I only have two brain cells, can someone just give me the answer of which planes to equip when fighting against every opsi arbiter type for a shinano, haku, avp fleet

[stone epoch]

might be a dumb question but is there any way of trashing non-unique augment modules?

[hollow sail]

also one thing about dive bombers, the bombs are aimed at enemies as soon as the airstrike is launched, so it can introduce a bit of inconsistency if there's one enemy further ahead of all the others might cause all the bombs to be aimed at that one enemy

[vagrant spoke]

They can be recycled for another augment module exp?

[keen sable]

Feed them to each other

[stone epoch]

cool, thanks

[vast apex]

Would you guys be willing to take a look at my fleet? I’d prefer you were nice but if you must criticize harshly then do as you will

If you need my lineup and options feel free to ask for them

[tidal meteor]

It's okayish I suppose? I presume you started out not too long ago?

[vast apex]

Yeah like four days ago I think

Maybe five

[tidal meteor]

If you're starting out then gear and levels is more important

[calm rose]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips you might wanna read this first~

[tidal meteor]

That too

[calm rose]

it shows the good ship to get as a starter

[zinc turret]

fosh meta is suck dont ever upgrade free purpol meta

[vast apex]

okay

[vast apex]

Does it matter for the campaign or not really?

[calm rose]

like all content, it gets harder and harder to use bad ships as you progress

[rain vine]

more like "you cant use her because of no max limit break"

[vast apex]

The only ship I’m intent on using throughout the entire game will be Cassin

[viscid swift]

Even with MLB she'd still be shit

[vast apex]

I’m willing to switch around other stuff but Cassin must stay

[calm rose]

if you understand that you'll be basically wasting a slot then its okay

[vast apex]

I understand lol

[viscid swift]

Your call, just so you know she's shit and only used for low cost farming

[vast apex]

Let me screenshot my options and hopefully they’re somewhat good

[rain vine]

open a thread

[sweet delta]

Unicorn is more than somewhat good

[vast apex]

Not sure how so it might take a minute

[clever lance]

Is there a recommended zombie fleet for each faction to use to farm exp for shipyard ships?

[vast apex]

How do I create a thread with picture perms?

[hollow sail]

hover over the channel name, click see all, then click create on the top right

[vast apex]

I’m able to create the thread but I’m not allowed to post images in it

[hollow sail]

hm

[vast apex]

[viscid swift]

Create it first

Then you can post images

[vast apex]

Ok I think I fixed it. Thanks

[rain vine]

you dont need a zombie fleet
farm with a 3:3 fleet in world 12

[vast apex]

Thread successfully created. Feel free to take a look

[zinc turret]

what is zombie fleet ?

[clever lance]

Is there a thread with recommended comps for each faction?

[vast apex]

Plants vs zombies on a boat

[rain vine]

for pr farming?
just use 3 ships that match the requirements for the exp and farm 12-1 or 12-4 on safe

[zinc turret]

recommended comp is just dont use faction fleet

[viscid swift]

The reccomendation is use 3 ships that meet the xp requirements and need levels and 3 other ships that need levels

You only ever need main fleet or vanguard XP so faction fleets are pointless

[clever lance]

I’m speaking in terms of just strictly farming for the shipyard xp goal… like farm 1,000,000 mil xp with iron blood ships

[zinc turret]

its only vanguard / main fleet only

[viscid swift]

Yes, I'm speaking of the same thing

[zinc turret]

u cant just slap 6 ship in faction and expect getting faster progression

max is 3 ship per fleet for same faction if u plan to grind cdc

[clever lance]

Oh… didn’t realize there was a limit of 3 ships… thought you could use as many as you wanted

[viscid swift]

Read the requirements more carefully

[zinc turret]

u can but this ...

[viscid swift]

All of the missions either require main fleet or vanguard XP

Never both

[zinc turret]

vanguard only have 3 slot per fleet and main fleet only have 3 slot per fleet

[warm flax]

Does the morale boost stack when I put a ship in both rest and training slot

[keen sable]

Zombies are overrated anyway. Or maybe appropriately not given much weight

[calm rose]

they cant both be in first and 2nd floor if thats what you meant

[warm flax]

Oh

[frank pulsar]

these stat buffs only affect uss or the whole fleet

[south sequoia]

all ships

[plain saffron]

All MLB ships

[mortal roost]

is new orleans any good keeping it?

[stone sluice]

It’s the first time I’ve seen an Oathed Cassin. I like it. She cute

[stone sluice]

By all ships you mean ALL not only USS?

[south sequoia]

ALL as long as they have max stars.

[forest palm]

when IJN gives the least meaningful Tech comparative to other factions

[forest blaze]

Anyone know who''s this ship? Looks like...kinda SMS Yorck? I've never seen this skin

[forest palm]

KMS Yorck

[strong tartan]

It's Yorck yea

New skin but i forgot what event it came with

[calm rose]

that skin was released during alsace event iirc nvm it was heart linking harmony

[forest blaze]

When did that skin become available?

[hybrid spoke]

Alsace event yeah

[strong tartan]

Oh it was during the muse event

[forest blaze]

Oh crap really? How did I miss it? Damn. Thanks guys, i'll wait a very long time then

[strong tartan]

Not that long, should be available during Black Friday

[calm rose]

should be available during black friday

[forest blaze]

[hybrid spoke]

Oh really? The one with muse formidable? Hm. Sounds about right

[strong tartan]

Yea the most recent one

[hybrid spoke]

[light trail]

these are all my RN + NP vanguard ships, what's the most solid vanguard (with some levels and LBs ofc) to mindlessly auto 12-1 or 12-4

i can make the goal just be "stay alive" and have the main fleet do all the damage if these are no good right?

[viscid swift]

Just about any combination works

[light trail]

wonderful

[calm rose]

kirov, giuseppe both have +2 fp at 120, so use those + 1 more

[viscid swift]

As a matter of convenience though

[urban grail]

Lvl 100ish ships with proper gear should be just fine, as long as ur backline could clear fast enough

[viscid swift]

Zara, Pola, Garibaldi

[light trail]

that's what i was gonna do yeah

[forest blaze]

[light trail]

ty for the suggestion btw

[forest blaze]

Use 2 thicc cruisers to unlock another thicc cruiser in research

[slow fox]

Yeah

[zinc turret]

huh ?

[kind needle]

Which should I get? Alr have 3 white shells, and an indep

[plain saffron]

Ignore them

None tbh

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[plain saffron]

Would prefer buying cogs first

And beacon for cv timing if needed

[kind needle]

So, black shells?

[plain saffron]

Ouh you only have white, yeah go black next

[kind needle]

Alr have 2, and mostly using hsfcr

[plain saffron]

Yeah 3 is enough

[sweet delta]

2 black is enough

[plain saffron]

Elaborate

[sweet delta]

2 black is enough because mostly using hsfcr

[plain saffron]

Even in campaign?

[sweet delta]

i wouldn't use 3 black white BBs in campaign

if there are 2 fleets and 3 BBs, then by the pigeonhole principle, at least 1 fleet has at least 2 BBs. The only way both BBs could use black white while still staggering is with a 457 + a triple gun or by being a special BB. And then the triple gun one will not be much desynced from the third main fleet ship

[plain saffron]

Fair enough (understand nothing)

[stark quiver]

what even is the pigeonhole principle

[forest palm]

For Nyakhimov, what factions can you use for CDC

[viscid swift]

Russia and Italian

[finite crag]

if n items are put into m containers, with n > m, then at least one container must contain more than one item

[stark quiver]

I see

[zinc turret]

i see ( didnt get it at all )

[rain vine]

i mean, shes alright, but by the time you get her, shes not exactly going to be useful

[agile sky]

is there any recommendation for low oil cost drop farming?
Specifically houshou from 7-4.

Like is the strat to run 1 ur vanguard 1 ur main? Or are there some cheap but really good epic/SRs that can carry?

[stark quiver]

Uni + ddg

[wary timber]

100mm kai worth building? I have a few DDs waiting for that gun

[hollow sail]

it's good but not the highest priority. if you can build a 406mm mk7 instead that'd be better

[agile sky]

thnx

[wary timber]

I have one MK7 already on NJ

[agile sky]

perseus should be fine too right?

[plain saffron]

Yes buy more expensive

[agile sky]

ah, nvm then

[stark quiver]

Does Perseus have healing every strike

[hollow sail]

feel like most people would say a 2nd mk7 is better than 1st 100mm kai; you can do it if you want though

[wary timber]

In which I can't cuz I just built a wyvern that ate one of the main resources for that gun too

[stark quiver]

rip

[hollow sail]

ah yes, the dreaded electronics drought

[agile sky]

lol...kinda funny watching this ship zooming on her tiny missle and melting ships with cat paws...ddg r nutty...

[hollow sail]

most good gear uses it so yeah

[vale spindle]

given

3 champy:

2 richy:

try pairing the to the

there will always be one with 2 no matter what
now expand this for some number (n) and some number (m), where n > m , and you get pigeonhole principle

[wary timber]

Another ship I'm pushing into service is Ingraham. Seems like she's an AA spec DD so I figured that the 100mm kai would be perfect to build

[stark quiver]

No electronic? No problem

[viscid swift]

Not really

[wary timber]

Considering that I'm only missing a couple of parts for it

[viscid swift]

The AA stat from the guns is negligible

[wary timber]

In that case I'll use it to break shields

[viscid swift]

You want it to go to your strongest DD gun slot on a vanguard which is almost certainly not ingraham

[vale spindle]

twin 100 kai is the best option for ingraham but she doesn't have the highest priority for it, if that makes sense

you probably will have a dd gun slot in your fleet that can use the twin 100 kai more effectively
but if you have twin 100 kai for everyone then go for it