gameplay-help

[silk helm]

are there any non ur aa carried or nah

[atomic abyss]

sandy augment makes her viable without retro lol

[remote yarrow]

She's TEX now atleast

[cobalt rapids]

w13 comps differ from w14 comps and w14 comps differ from w15 comps
even if maybe 1 comp can do all its not a general rule

[strange sphinx]

W13 is.. plane spam

[signal pollen]

Since I'm doing world 13, I do need some good AA right?

[cobalt rapids]

and theres multiple roles for vanguards
like survive, aa, dmg and later asw
as long as u fulfill the criteria ure good, doesnt need to be a cookie cutter template

[remote yarrow]

Shimanto, Cheshire, Juneau, Isuzu, though I haven't really tried the latter two

[silk helm]

ty

[cobalt rapids]

w13 wants survive then aa then dmg but consider that aircraft carriers contribute considerably to your aa aswell

well the good ones with fighters

[signal pollen]

I need the gear lab plane for AA don't I? I think I recalled reading a torp plane had AA(i might be wrong i wasn't reading carefully)

[remote yarrow]

Flapjack? it's a Fighter but you don't need it

[cobalt rapids]

no gear is needed, using less means u have to compensate more
or sometimes less is alr enough

like 2x500lb like hellcat is alr fine for w13

[remote yarrow]

W13 is easy enough for you to not need any gearlab gear

[cobalt rapids]

the torp bomber with aa as in it passively intercepts like a fighter in gearlab is the wyvern which is good to have regardless

[signal pollen]

maybe I should get to it then. i've been farming 12-4 with one fleet for the xp needed for research

[remote yarrow]

I always forget Wyvern has intercept

[slow fox]

When are they coing to give CA guns intercept

I want to watch my twin 203mm skc fly over the sky and shoot down planes

[cobalt rapids]

u can or u can just sit in w12

[signal pollen]

wait doesn't that mean it's mandatory for sandy to have a good AA gun?

I've been kinda sleeping on her aa gun

[cobalt rapids]

imho pushing above w12 is for flex,gems, collection or lategame when u are and u prio other stuff like cogs

[remote yarrow]

You can give her a Roomba which isn't hard to come by

[agile sky]

Does it take longer, faster, or same time to get an old meta ship vs the one currently up. Just a copy not mlb.

[viscid swift]

how about a large cruiser that carries planes

[cobalt rapids]

its not mandatory but sandy is usually the best candidate for ur best aa gun

[signal pollen]

I do have a roomba slotted on her 😔 I just don't kill the planes for some reason

[cobalt rapids]

could be for multiple reasons

is ur acv green in the first place?

[signal pollen]

What's an acv

[cobalt rapids]

these 2 ontop should be always green

[signal pollen]

it's both red

[cobalt rapids]

acv is the right one

[remote yarrow]

Well that's not the best

[cobalt rapids]

start by fixing that first

[undone plover]

Old meta u can get 1k sync points per day
New meta max is 975 sync points per day

[signal pollen]

How do I fix it? gear up my team for it?

[stark quiver]

more planes, more avi, more eva

[sterile jolt]

More CV in your fleets

[cobalt rapids]

acv tldr is more cv in fleets
recon tldr is more avi and eva

[signal pollen]

Okay, I have 4bbs on my team 😔:

Centuar or independence retrofit?

[stark quiver]

[cobalt rapids]

if u have the stage to safe u can go for less when xp farming but even then u should pad ur boss fleet with cvs for an easier time farming

[signal pollen]

In theory, it would be better to farm xp with 12-4 with one team vs 13-4 needing a second fleet to kill the boss right?

[atomic abyss]

why would you farm 12-4 with 1 fleet even

[viscid swift]

it would be better to farm 12-1 or 12-4 with 2 fleets

[atomic abyss]

it means your 12-4 fleet has to be strong enough for choukai/maya on 0 ammo

which defeats the entire purpose

[cobalt rapids]

consider the fact that w13 is much harder than w12 and getting away with a full fleet of lvling ships might not be feasible

[signal pollen]

i dunno, i've been farming main xp for research with level 125 stat sticks. It does work

[cobalt rapids]

its wasted xp

[remote yarrow]

Well that's a pretty big waste of exp

[signal pollen]

0 ammo gives less xp?

[cobalt rapids]

u can farm for cdc while using ships that make use of that xp instead and killing two birds with one stone

[remote yarrow]

No, you are just wasting exp by using a lv 125 ship

Instead of leveling another one

[viscid swift]

no, but it does raise the requirement of your leveling fleet significantly to tackle the boss without ammo

[signal pollen]

yeah you guys have a point. mb

But uni is kinda core for mobbing, is it okay to let her xp overflow?

[cobalt rapids]

w12 on safe can be farmed without uni

[stark quiver]

no because 12-1 doesnt require uni unless the shitters are really ass

[remote yarrow]

umi? umi no neko?

[stark quiver]

like my full lvl 100 dd fleet

[signal pollen]

how much level diff is it from 12-1 compared 12-4 (counting fuel efficiency)

[remote yarrow]

Yeah a full fleet of 90+ can beat 12-1 safe without much problem

[cobalt rapids]

12-1 has slightly better xp /oil

[remote yarrow]

And 12-4 has a higher coin/oil than 12-1

[eager mulch]

wb 15-3?

[cobalt rapids]

better houshou/oil

[stark quiver]

turtle on the hoshou grind?

[signal pollen]

oh my god I've been farming the wrong node :misery:

[eager mulch]

not yet, doing nakh grind in 12-4

[cobalt rapids]

just do it in 15-3 silly

[eager mulch]

I’ll do it in wows 🧠

[inner delta]

[grave ridge]

Is there a better main gun for helena or just stick to this?

[glossy spear]

Should I keep duplicate of Portland if I already have her max LB for now?

[remote yarrow]

wdym "max LB for now"?

[inland shoal]

I'd just keep that for now

[remote yarrow]

Is she 5/5 or not?

Cuz if she is, don't get a dupe

[grave ridge]

Just stick to the current?

[remote yarrow]

Yeah, until you get your second Plygun since the first one goes to Ply herself

[grave ridge]

Thx

[grave ridge]

Don't have her yet sooo

[little tree]

Should this work fine for 11 2 hard for 3 star*

[remote yarrow]

Probably? Though move Nelson to flag

[sweet delta]

you can 3 star hard maps without fighting all mobs in 1 run

[cobalt rapids]

and brennus to tank and idk about mob fleet vang

[sweet delta]

by clearing it to 100% and then doing 1 run against the boss

but there are still more mobs needed for the second star

[remote yarrow]

Oh yeah that mob fleet vanguard is kinda weak

[little tree]

Torpedo stat is hard to get with other Ship combos

that mog is not even MLB

[remote yarrow]

Well that might be another problem

[little tree]

Surly the 120 ships carry

[stark quiver]

how hard is 11H

[slow fox]

It's 11
11 hard

[little tree]

116 boss 115 fleet

11 hard

[remote yarrow]

That liverpool will probably die ngl

[slender heart]

Looks dead

[stark quiver]

both vanguards will proably die

[soft raft]

The hell is Kimberly META doing there

[little tree]

Torpedo stat block

[cobalt rapids]

what u should do instead is move the statstickers into the other fleet and one fleet it instead

[little tree]

well 1 ship lived in the vanguard wich is good enough

[glossy spear]

Oh I don’t know if there was anything other than LBing that required dupes

[eager mulch]

retrofit

[remote yarrow]

Yeah retrofit needs either a dupe or a bulin over at the "Modernization" node

[eager mulch]

San Diego would like a word with you

[little tree]

~~sandys skill requiers one as well right? and the first one ~~

[eager mulch]

and warspite

[little tree]

~~ who even uses warspite anymore~~

[blissful lynx]

hi all, after like 5 years of playing on and off and just throwing resources at shipgirls i like i'm trying to play this game a bit more consistently and thoughtfully
first is my current effort at a gen purpose boss fleet, then my current pool for a mob fleet
any thoughts?? advice?? any good tutorial videos on fleet comp??

[hollow gust]

Make a thread

[knotty dome]

do the cube commissions have higher chance to give cubes or give more cubes the longer the commission?

[eager mulch]

unknown

[glass quest]

when should I use the 406mm Mk7 as BB Main Gun and when the 457mm Mk A?

[eager mulch]

mk7 for light armor bossing and 457 for mobbing/campaign respectively

[glass quest]

what is light armor exactly

[stark quiver]

light armor, its a type of armor, heavy, medium, light

[remote yarrow]

Well enemies can have 3 types on armor, light medium and heavy

[glass quest]

and how do I know which one they got

[remote yarrow]

And guns have different type of shell types, HE and AP
HE is good against light and AP is good against Med and Heav

Well mostly knowing what armor ships have over at the wiki (if the enemy is a ship) or by checking in here https://azurlane.nagami.moe/nodes

[stark quiver]

you go on wiki and search up ship, or you ask

[glass quest]

oh okay I thought there might be something ingame that shows me that, thanks

[spring bolt]

for overnight commissions, only the 8h one may give you 2 cubes, rest are limited to 1 max.
Enemy Attack I/II/III are 2/3/4,
Merchant Rescue I/II/III are 2/2/3
daily 1/2 hr ones are all 1 except lv 40 fleet exercise and fleet escort ones may give you 2
chances to get cubes are about 1/3

wait, lv 50 dailies may give you 2

and typo: enemy attacks should be 2/3/4

and Merchant Rescue is 2/2/3
jeez i need a coffee

[little tree]

W 13

[knotty dome]

chances to get cubes are about 1/3
for all commissions?

[karmic pebble]

Educate me what is the meaning of this

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Faction_Technology

[spring bolt]

yes, according to CN's community data research

[karmic pebble]

Ohh permanent stat bonus

[knotty dome]

do you know if it's chance per cube (i.e. for multiple cube comms, 1/3 to get 1 cube, 1/9 to get 2 cube), or is it 1/3 to get one or more cubes?

[karmic pebble]

Did we have this before or it came with this recent update

[rain vine]

its been there for a really long time

[stark quiver]

been here for a long time now

[karmic pebble]

I'm a fucking moron

[atomic abyss]

That has been there since the first PR series

So 2019 for EN

[spring bolt]

numbers are fixed, for example, for enemy attack II, 2/3 chance to get 0, 1/3 to get 3, no chance of getting 1 or 2

[knotty dome]

oh i see. thanks, very helpful

[rain vine]

you do it for the potential 3600 cog chips and 1800 cog arrays

[spring bolt]

np

[knotty dome]

oh sorry 1 more followup. what does "fleet exercise" fall under? i mean the ones that are normal, after the dailies are done. there's also "fleet cargo transport, fleet cargo exercise, fleet combat exercise"

[spring bolt]

im also comparing EN commission names with CN, 1 sec...

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Commissions#Extra_Commissions
should be these 2, right? both gives 2

[knotty dome]

yes the extra commissions

[spring bolt]

if lv 40. lower level ones give 1

[knotty dome]

i see. thanks again

[spring bolt]

np

[keen sable]

It's saying press upgrade

[grizzled sundial]

Do Exp gain from commission count toward PR ship development ?

[soft raft]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

• Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
• Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
• Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.

[rough vale]

Anyone know if the loading screen art is archived anywhere?

[soft raft]

the wiki

[light trail]

i know it's not gameplay but to piggyback, is there a page specifically with guest art btw bc only way i've found how to see them is by going to character gallery pages

also what are these for? i got a yellow one earlier

[wild oyster]

shows hidden sectors, basically the yellow chests on the map

[soft raft]

afaik no, and those thingies are mainly hidden zone/abyssal zone loggers

[light trail]

so that means they lead to boss fights for good rewards?

[soft raft]

abysalls yes
hidden zones are mainly for gold plates iirc

[viscid swift]

that one no

[light trail]

question about PR btw, i just wanna know if it's worth to go back to other pr seasons after finishing pr4 (agir dev30, haku fs5, another tenrai; already have avp and anchor fs5) and before going to pr5 for ply. i have:
pr1: monarch fs2, roon fs5
pr2: kitakaze fs5, fdg fs55
pr3: cheshire fs5

[viscid swift]

that's a Hidden Node Coordinate, you fight a few mobs basically for a few gold plates and some mats

[viscid swift]

you would never want to do PR1, 2 or 3 research focus

[light trail]

hell yeah

[remote yarrow]

Hey Cheeky am I wrong for thinking this is enough for W13 or am I underestimating how hard it is #1262181193948856381 message

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't exactly want to try it

[supple canopy]

Does opsi give u exp? Or nah

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message (Yes but it's very 🤏)

[light trail]

i put the amount of each equip i own in the top left corner. how many more from this selection should i go for by buying prints from the proto shop?

[viscid swift]

none

[soft raft]

1 IJN Triple 410 for Musashi
and a 3rd champy gun if you dont have Soyuz gun

[light trail]

lmao i have this on her already tho

[soft raft]

Still get it anyways since she still has a place in the triple BB comp against heavy armor

[light trail]

oh wait triple 410 not twin 410, i thought u were memeing

i wish the musashi event gun was good

[silk helm]

whats the best way to farm yellow gear lab items from opsi?

[soft raft]

farm C5 zones

[whole crypt]

assuming you're done buying out from shops and cleared out all special zones then it's just farming C5
also gets a bit better when you can hit up the lv95? 100? gear box raid

[silk helm]

ty, should i clear strongholds and abyssal first?

[whole crypt]

yes

[silk helm]

ty

[crisp wadi]

Need help for 3 starring w13. It seems my mob fleet always die before all the mob destroyed

Especially 13-3 and 4

[soft raft]

is your W13 on safe threat lvl yet?
And what's your fleet looking like?

[whole crypt]

have you repeated unitl safe?

[crisp wadi]

Something like this, also my bad I mean 14-3 and 4. Do I need to change something ?

[whole crypt]

same deal, have you gotten the stage to safe?

[crisp wadi]

I think is no, if not safe it'll deal more damage to my fleet isn't it ?

[whole crypt]

safe pads your level advantage with the map's base threat level, ch14 is fully in scalable range so getting to safe first makes a huge difference

usually the problem would be your ASW not cutting it on 0 ammo though so using better ASW ships may help

[hollow gust]

How is that not killing tho

[viscid swift]

well a bit more asw wouldn't go amiss for 3 starring

[rain vine]

what about your mob fleet is dying?

[whole crypt]

assuming the ships are actually 125, +10 hedgehog + 1 ASW plane doesn't sound super reassuring for 0 ammo subs

[crisp wadi]

Its when i need to defeat all enemy in the map, especially my fleet backline always low before defeating all the enemy

[whole crypt]

like almost definitely subs then

[atomic abyss]

Probably best to 3* on safe then

[viscid swift]

replace the RPG aux with a Purple depth charge launcher

[whole crypt]

get to safe, +13 the hedgehog

*purple depth charge

[soft raft]

definetly sounds like a need of more vanguard ASW

[rain vine]

would suicide boats be a concern with that vanguard?

[whole crypt]

less than the subs

[soft raft]

the subs are prob what's killing his backline

[whole crypt]

and it's usually just everything adding up

so if you get rid of the subs then the suicide boats alone won't be doing enough damage to be a serious issue

[crisp wadi]

Who should i change then?

[soft raft]

Just give Yuudachi a purple depth charge

[whole crypt]

enhance hedgehog to +13, fit a purple depth charge on Yuudachi
possibly just pick a DD with better ASW

[opaque galleon]

Perfect sync is possible now

[sinful elk]

Chat does muse ship exp count toward shipyard development

[soft raft]

yes but they just dont give any tech bonuses whatsoever so consider other options first if possibl

[sinful elk]

[candid meteor]

who should i give a wyvern out of haku, shinano, or ryuhuu just for 12-4 farming and independence or unicorn for op si

[remote yarrow]

Is there an Unicorn option?

[candid meteor]

my unicron is maxed so im farming with the 3 sakura

[atomic abyss]

Nano probably

[candid meteor]

should i replace the bf109 or the saiun

[sweet delta]

replace the bf109g with a fighter with bombs too

[short wagon]

whats this and how do i get it

[candid meteor]

pr7 research

[short wagon]

oh..

[sweet delta]

something you shouldn't worry about

[short wagon]

yep

[soft raft]

new TB from PR7
basically the PR5 TB if it had 2 less torps, 1s faster reload, and is converging not parallel

[dawn crest]

Did you use the Airstrike cooldown calculator to make sure?

[hollow gust]

Don't need too

[alpine pawn]

How should I go about leveling in the early game? I'm currently grinding before attempting 4-1 but I'm wondering if what I'm doing is the best. Right now I'm grinding on 2-1 for coins to buy tech boxes alongside leveling.

[hollow gust]

It doesn't run beacon or manjuu so that timing is accurate

[signal pollen]

in opsi, the nodes with a golden treasure chest hovering over them, is it worth doing 3+?

[undone plover]

read this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

grind highest map u can do

dont buy tech box with gold

[remote yarrow]

Yeah that's isn't probably what you should be doing, just try to push campaign, are you using the recommended starter fleet?

[opaque galleon]

Hey so since the la9 is so good at anti medium, will that mean double fighter slot carriers are that much better than single fighter carriers like haku now?

[undone plover]

Yeah consensus is 3+ is worth for hidden zones

that includes 3

[dawn crest]

even with meowfficer?

[signal pollen]

Okay, thanks bro

[sweet delta]

which double fighter slot carrier is better than haku? besides nakhimov maybe?

[hollow gust]

Meowofficers affect all the CVs? it's generally not big enough of a different

[alpine pawn]

thanks, also gotcha kind of thought that was what I needed to do in the beginning to get better gear

[sweet delta]

those three CVs literally have the exact same RLD and there's no faction-specific RLD buff in effect

[alpine pawn]

I believe I am. Currently one of the ships I'm leveling is Portland, I bought graf spee when I first started this account since I kind of want to build an iron blood fleet later on

[undone plover]

u will slowly get gear over time
tbh u dont even need good gear to push early game
just pick the right ships (the guide recommends an optimal starter fleet) and level them and MLB them they will clear everything

[opaque galleon]

YK2 ig, or is there still an argument to use haku in medium

[atomic abyss]

This game is a slow grind

[remote yarrow]

Why do all newbies want Iron Blood fleets

[alpine pawn]

lmao as soon as I opened that link I realized it was the guide I got earlier

[atomic abyss]

The same reason why chuunis in anime use German for their lingo

[alpine pawn]

technically it's not my first time playing. If I didn't lose my old account I'd be a bit better off lol

[atomic abyss]

Don't question it

[remote yarrow]

Faction fleets are bad, they slow down your progress and are worse than normal fleets

[atomic abyss]

Spee is cute and all but there are many better Ironbloods

[silk sphinx]

because the IBs have red and black drip

[remote yarrow]

Holy edge lords

[silk sphinx]

as long as they use unicorn they'll do mostly fine

[alpine pawn]

I didn't mean a full blown iron blood fleet but one that uses a majority of them. should have been a little clearer I suppose

[remote yarrow]

That doesn't make it that much better

[silk sphinx]

it does make it much better actually

[remote yarrow]

In any case use the recommended fleet for now
Penny,Unicorn, (Random)
Portland,Starter DD, Helena

Later on when you reach W9 or W12 better you can look into adding Iron Blood ships to your fleet(s)

[agile sky]

how many runs do yall typically take to beat a meta boss? is 1 run the norm or rare?

[candid meteor]

i typically do 1 and get my guild to finish the rest

[alpine pawn]

luckily I got alvitr when I started since the event was still ongoing so I didn't actually buy penny. And yeah I was planning on doing the hard grind later on I was just curious on for the early game grind so I wasn't underleveled

[soft raft]

1 is hyper min-maxxing
2-4 is prob the average for most people

[agile sky]

but typically 1 run or 5 doesnt matter except saving time right?

[soft raft]

Id still raise Pennsylvania tbh
Altvir isnt really worth the cost, especially when early game, you have to be pretty selective on who gets your SR Bullins

[remote yarrow]

Depending on your server you might be able to grab Hood or Enterprise from medal shop

[opaque galleon]

Out of curiosity, if a new player starts during an event and manages to roll or grind out like 3 copies of an ssr, would it then be more efficient to just finish lb ing that ship or go with the standard new player options like hood/Nelson

[remote yarrow]

Depends on the ship that's currently on the banner

[silk sphinx]

this META fight is very hard, even with very optimized fleets and high fleet tech and +13 you can still fail, especially without oaths

[soft raft]

depends on who that ship is in question

[alpine pawn]

I didn't plan on limit breaking her anytime soon, just figured I'd let her level and when she caps she caps. But I can still buy penny and have her for backup, out of curiosity what about repulse? Is she somewhat comparable to penny

[silk sphinx]

if you can two shot it then you're doing very well

[soft raft]

Repulse is just flat out worse

[remote yarrow]

Nah she's bad

[viscid swift]

That's even worse

[alpine pawn]

roger

[silk sphinx]

if you can occasionally one shot it then it's probabaly as good as your fleet can be

[viscid swift]

If you're gonna use her you either commit fully or don't

[alpine pawn]

If I recall she was my intro gacha pull so I ended up using her until I got alvitr just thought I'd check before buying penny

[remote yarrow]

Well, we recommend her for a reason

[alpine pawn]

I get that but it still didn't hurt to check just in case

[remote yarrow]

Yeah dw

[keen sable]

There's no point to a hypothetical. It depends entirely on the specifics

[dawn crest]

One question, I already have 3 Flapjack, however the fleet I intend to use in chapter 13 clear, I need to use 5, I have the resources to make 2 more, but the question is really worth it, I already have an F7F Tigercat +10, and an F6F Hellcat +10?

[sweet delta]

why do you need to use 5

chapter 13 was powercrept long before flapjacks were added

[dawn crest]

1 perseus, 2 centaur, 2 illustrius

[keen sable]

I wasn't aware the game could force you to have a quint stack of flapjacks for breakfast

[remote yarrow]

5 flapjacks seem really overkill for how easy W13 is

[alpine pawn]

yup yup also thanks again for the assistance

[hollow gust]

Also 2 CVLs and 1 CV is more of a concern then flapjacks

[remote yarrow]

Yw, feel free to come ask whatever question you got

[hollow gust]

Thats definitely not enough for air supremacy

[remote yarrow]

Also where's your Unicorn

[dawn crest]

why ?

[hollow gust]

When you enter the map you have air supremacy, with 3Cv/l?

[viscid swift]

What fleets are you planning to use exactly and what what gear

[vale spindle]

its not

you just need it to be not red which is achievable with only 3 cvs especially if your vanguard has enough aa

if you enter the map and you see in the top left the plane icon is red then you need to change stuff up

[dawn crest]

@nagamiii i'll send the image, a moment.

[remote yarrow]

Why nagami

[spring bolt]

we are all nagami

[steady beacon]

So Nagami and cheeky are actually the same person, the conspiracy's been exposed

[vale spindle]

thats fine

[dawn crest]

i leveling the low level ships

[hollow gust]

My comment is how you don't need flapjacks , as much as getting getting air superiority tho? You can do perfectly fine with f6fs. 10% aerial damage decrease vs increase 10% damage increase is noticeable

[viscid swift]

I don't really like Javelin in the boss fleet

But other than that looks fine

Beaver badge on your boss tank though

[dawn crest]

Four flaps are enough?

[hollow gust]

you dont even need flaps for w13

[frank pulsar]

i did w13 with just hellcats

[viscid swift]

W13 was released well before the gear lab was a thing

[vale spindle]

you could have achieved similar results with f6f instead since its w13

[frank pulsar]

youre overestimating w13 a lot

[dawn crest]

someone told me it's an airplane hell

[hollow gust]

it used to be 4 years ago

[soft raft]

nowadays it's relatively tame compared to W15

[hollow gust]

w15 has like 3-5x the planes

[dawn crest]

So I can use 2 flaps on the centaur, 1 on the perseus, illustrious with 2 hellcats, enty f7f, without any problem?

i got it

[viscid swift]

You could use f6f hell cats on all of them and it would clear no issue

[dawn crest]

le malin or le terrible for alsace skill, is good on her place?

[hollow gust]

dont bother with it

[viscid swift]

Not particularly

[remote yarrow]

Wouldn't it be better if you showed your dock in a thread?

[dawn crest]

is more a gear question then a fleet build

[hollow gust]

only french ships worth it , brest or mogador, and a massive maybe jeanne

[viscid swift]

The 2 go hand in hand

[dawn crest]

thanks

[agile sky]

So someone told me that the limit for old meta ship is 1k sync pts per day? Can someone tell me why theres this limit? Is it an energy cap thing or a hard limit?

[soft raft]

200 META Coordinates -> each fight costs 100 coords -> Each Dossier META kill is worth 500 pts -> 500 * 2 = 1000

[novel solstice]

You get 500 points per battle, you earn enough for two battles per day. You can earn a lot more than that in one day if you've let your coordinates pile up for a week, but the sustained rate is 1000/day.

[agile sky]

Ah...then i guess i haf coordinates piled up cuz im at 1.5k with another battle active and was hecka confused...

So if i got 1k coordinate, i can unlock an old meta in 1 day?

[viscid swift]

no, you need 5k sync points to get the first copy

and 25k for MLB

[agile sky]

So i can get the first copy in one day but its gonna be trash basically?

[alpine pawn]

will do

[soft raft]

if you're able to get enough runs in for 5k pts yes and yes

[agile sky]

Question...why are some ship crystal in the meta supply? R they from cruise or event or something?

Also...would i be right to assume old ship priority helena meta first and then maybe jintsuu?

[viscid swift]

they're from events

and Jintsuu isn't in the dossier yet

the order doesn't particularly matter, by the time you do get one ready to do they'll probably be displaced anyway

so they're just tech

[agile sky]

Ah...unfortunate....collection purpose it is then lol

[wary timber]

So I got my first wyvern recently. I'm assuming you're gonna tell me to build another one?

[viscid swift]

pretty much

[atomic rock]

is 12-1 better than 11-1?

[soft raft]

overall yes
only thing 11-1 has going for it is that it's the best oil/xp ratio

[wary timber]

Other than that I'm assuming that the 100mm kai is a close second? Or am I mistaken

[fresh tangle]

Slowly working on Sakura tech while I develop FdG and AvP. Any recommendations for next MLB?

[loud rover]

really just depends on what you need

[wary timber]

Everything. I need EVERYTHING

I scrapped too much stuff

[wind hazel]

probably 457 next for later chapter pushing

[glossy spear]

What is considered low aa ship?

[loud rover]

low aa stat

[glossy spear]

How low is low

[eager mulch]

mutsuki maybe

[glossy spear]

Is 100 low?

[wind hazel]

yes

[light trail]

what are helena meta's use cases

[eager mulch]

tech

[loud rover]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ships_by_Stats#Level_120-0 set whichever ship type you want to level 120 or 125 and sort by AA

[light trail]

no other use?

[steady beacon]

Small universal debuff, some help for vanguards in OpSi boss, reasonably good personal damage

[loud rover]

you dont need to be very concerned about AA until you reach w13, but you could start leveling a couple AA carrie sin w12

[earnest flare]

is the post pr4 (2 tenrai + agir, haku, anch, avp) recommendation now pr7 or still the normal pr4 > pr5 > pr6 > pr7

[eager mulch]

do you guys consider the tempestas as low aa

[wind hazel]

still plymouth

[loud rover]

all pr4, plymouth (maybe brest, at least i am), idk about pr6 but pr7 is probably next after ply and brest d30

marco polo still a good ship and you'll need SE tech for nakhimov and napoli anyway

[earnest flare]

i have literally 0 SE tech lol, yeah i was planning on doing Marco polo when i finish making chesh (just planning on coining after i finish coining avp and anch fs5) and using bps and coining after chesh

[stark quiver]

you pick up plymouth, maybe ply and harbin, then probably shimanto for aa carry then pr7

[loud rover]

i guess if u dont have guam/laff2 on top of sandykai then shimanto would be a good pick

[soft raft]

she'd still be a top pick even if you had Guam and Laffey II but yee she gud

[loud rover]

hey blaster, if i'm working on d30 ply and brest rn, who should i build next? i could do harbin since im in pr5 already and maybe chkalov if i'm gonna use naki
all pr4 done and i have either most or all of the useful ships from pr1-3

[wind hazel]

doesn't matter if you don't have the BPs now, so pick whoever to develop next

got BPs? develop her
no BPs? doesn't matter

[blissful hamlet]

hipotetchically if tiny tims fighter exists, does it still make LA-9 worth to +13?

[loud rover]

fair enough, guess i could just complete pr5 since d30ing two DRs gonna suck and be time consuming

[soft raft]

yeah you may as well

[steady beacon]

Had a stroke reading that first word
But I would personally say so, yes
In any case, it's better to work with what we have than to worry about stuff we might or might not get in the future

[blissful hamlet]

thank you pilica best gph people

[viscid swift]

we have no idea what a Tiny Tim rocket fighter would even look like

yeah we have tiny tim rockets but that means jack when so much can change if we do end up getting a fighter with it

[blissful hamlet]

there's a USS event soon right? tiny tims will be there

[viscid swift]

possibly, stay tuned to the stream on the 19th

[steady beacon]

How you don't overdose on copium I'll never know, serenity

[blissful hamlet]

I hoard my plane plates for this moment

[viscid swift]

besides, no one is gonna get the La-9 in quantity for quite some time

[loud rover]

copium is like water to them, they need it to stay hydrated

[signal pollen]

Is opsi just grind the practice battle for stronghold and golden treasure nodes 💀

[soft raft]

and the abyssal zones, arbiter fight, and spamming C5 zones

[signal pollen]

Do those refresh? Or do I have to grind practice battle for them

[loud rover]

what about spamming C5?

[steady beacon]

Just where you spend your remaining AP

[soft raft]

you have to do the practice arbiters before you unlock the real arbiter fight that rotates every month

[steady beacon]

Fish for cat nodes when you've already used up all your other zones

[loud rover]

why not c6 then?

[signal pollen]

Wait there’s a real one? No way 💀

[soft raft]

more AP Cost for no real increase in cat nodes

[steady beacon]

More expensive for same number of potential cat node spawns

[loud rover]

ok so its a cost efficiency matter

[steady beacon]

(You can also do C3 but you drain your AP slower, so some may not like it as much)

[loud rover]

and a hard version

[signal pollen]

Guh

[wary timber]

Also reminder to do the file zones for opsi but only when your fleet is well above lv105. The rewards are real good

[signal pollen]

What’s a file zone

[soft raft]

the classified loggers from the voucher shop

[vagrant spoke]

Does it give out ur prints

[soft raft]

1 selector print at the end of each one

[signal pollen]

This voucher?

[wary timber]

Btw be prepared for the last zone. You're in for a nasty surprise if your fleet is underleveled

[soft raft]

you can just leave, heal and come back tho so eh I dont really see the need to specifically mention that

[hollow sail]

strongholds and normal arbiter are cheesable with a lot of leaving and healing

abyssals more concerning

[wary timber]

I used 3 fleets + submarine support for the enforcers at the last file zone. My average fleet level is around 105 with ships like Enterprise and Unicorn capping out at lv120

[loud rover]

just wait till they fight a c6 zombie with hp shield there's a reason to be concerned

[wary timber]

Yea some enforcers have a crazy heal

[signal pollen]

I thought gear would take priority over level

[loud rover]

3/5 of them have a repair overdrive my abyssal zones gonna suck. i have so many saved up already

[soft raft]

Just Out-DPS them bro

[hollow sail]

best thing to do if you're struggling with the heal ones is bring them as close to 30% as possible then let the fight end there

[loud rover]

i can its just my BB fleet loves to whiff shells

[wary timber]

Another SLIGHTLY annoying one is the one with the impenetrable shield

[hollow sail]

then refresh that fleet with one of the two hidden nodes to wipe the debuffs/use another fleet to dps past the 30% threshold after the heal

[loud rover]

watched my bb fleet miss a stationary CL abyssal

[wary timber]

Just... manual

[steady beacon]

Solution is don't use BBs

[wary timber]

I manual everything to maximise damage dealt and minimise damage taken

[earnest flare]

I have 34/50 on the ap ur bb pr2 gun, is it worth protoing (working on pr4 now, already finished fdg and azuma)

[steady beacon]

Not at all a bad thing if you are willing to
Manual is the great equaliser
Compensates a ton if you are short on ships and equipment

[steady beacon]

Which other protocore stuff have you already bought

[loud rover]

rip gear lab 457 ig

[soft raft]

have you gotten at least 3 champy guns, Tenrai, and plygun yet?

[earnest flare]

I have 3 champy, tenrai, no plygun

[wary timber]

The 457 dosent really have much going for it except it's fast reload

[soft raft]

plygun first

[earnest flare]

alright thanks

[soft raft]

It's got value as a mobbing gun tfym

[loud rover]

its only one of the best mobbing BB guns, but i guess thats not a lot going for it

[eager mulch]

it’s damage isn’t lacking

[loud rover]

its twin barrel, ofc its damage will look "lacking"

[steady beacon]

Especially when you can 4-salvo an Arbiter and finish at 00:20

[wary timber]

Just that it won't do much against light armor enemies

[loud rover]

its got AP as its ammo

[wary timber]

Overpen intensifies

[stark quiver]

so everything in game is light and ap is useless?

[loud rover]

so is the other 5 ships in ur fleet not capable of dealing with light armor?

[viscid swift]

you do know most high priority enemies in late game mobs are medium and heavy armor right? and it still one-shots might light armor mobs

not to mention the immense amount of stagger it can provide

[wary timber]

Stagger eh. Guess I haven't used that gun enough for now

[loud rover]

wdym it should be on ur mob BB at all times

[wary timber]

Most of my BBs use the MK6

[loud rover]

mk6 is fine for general purpose, but 457 is best for mobbing and champy is best for bossing med/heavy

[sleek spade]

how good is Halford?

[wary timber]

I was still early game at w6 when I got that 457mm and not really caring much to deal with opsi then

[sleek spade]

so Halford is good

[stark quiver]

tbd

[hollow sail]

no one has her so it's hard to say for certain

[stark quiver]

its been a good 3 or 4 days since release

[sleek spade]

hmmm ok

but she's cute so she's probably good

[steady beacon]

She's very cute
But apart from some paper calcs and Yahoo's simulation testing, there isn't much concrete we have on her
Give it a month or two

[sleek spade]

ogey

[viscid swift]

Halford is still a few weeks off at this point

[steady beacon]

I shall be getting her in three days' time

[hollow sail]

given the seaplane she wants to use fires rockets she's inherently more boss oriented. on paper the seaplane has good stats, but halford herself doesn't really have great stats, and she can get very limited help from cats or tech in terms of helping her seaplane damage

[broken kernel]

whats the best iron blood only team that i can get my hands on?

[stark quiver]

already halfway thru cdc2

[wary timber]

Speed

[viscid swift]

For what content and what do you have your hands on right now

[forest palm]

getting half way through CDC2 is nothing

[steady beacon]

Nah that's a pretty normal pace if you're a veteran

[viscid swift]

I'm probably a bit slow if anything

[steady beacon]

Pre sure there are some who've already just flat-out finished the CDCs

[stark quiver]

im at a good 0% cuz no oil

[forest palm]

it's been like...12(?) hours since CDC2 opened

[stark quiver]

how much oil do you all have in storage

[steady beacon]

Uh... 13h and 20min
If you logged as soon as maint ended (early) and chose your ship

[broken kernel]

just restarted the game, and operation siren or general farming

but thinking longterm whats the best possible iron blood team

[finite crag]

enough

[earnest flare]

who is bb reload tech

[viscid swift]

General farming is using 6 ships that need levels

Operation Siren really depends on what you have

[stark quiver]

go wiki fleet tech

[viscid swift]

Usual disclaimer though that faction fleets are sub optimal and are only for personal preference

[viscid swift]

Not to mention the best IB fleets involve 2 gacha URs and a bunch of PRs and DRs

[forest palm]

when ya don't sort

[earnest flare]

thanks!

[viscid swift]

So to make doubly sure, do you want to go through with this because it will be a massive handicap in terms of progression

And soft locks you out of some content without an insane amount of effort

[forest palm]

a rich man's build

could be worse though, could be people that like to use historically accurate weapons for each ship

[stark quiver]

mikasa gun

[wary timber]

So just cuz I'm starting on FDG now. What kind of BB is the FDG. A boss or mob oriented ship

[forest palm]

she can do both, but ends up being best in mob

[quartz wyvern]

Wasn't Indomitable a preferred carrier for support fleets in w15?

[soft raft]

yes

[quartz wyvern]

Sweet. Another ship to help me progress.

[wary timber]

So I'm assuming a good enough starting gun for FDG is the MK6?

[forest palm]

like most BB, yes

[sweet delta]

the enough in good enough always depends on the enemy and your fleet strength

[steady beacon]

Valid, just not on Mikasa

[silk helm]

who should i use my pr6 general prints on?

[steady beacon]

Personally? Shimanto
But your mileage may vary

[forest palm]

Shimanto, and Kears seem like the most reasonable spare print eaters

[silk helm]

thanks. only 700 sakura fleet tech away from shimanto so close i can feel it

[hushed aurora]

I can start developing bayard is it worth it?

[hollow gust]

Do pr4 first

[sweet delta]

Focus on your pr4 or 5

[hushed aurora]

I still miss a lot of tech points because I started playing with alsace banner

I could develop brest

I just feel like I waste my time in devolping the pr1 because they currently the only ship I can develop beside brest and bayard

[silk helm]

How many Ib points u have?

[mortal roost]

is brest priority pr?

[hushed aurora]

no

[mortal roost]

so just like extra cb?

[hushed aurora]

This?

[viscid swift]

Where are you in the main campaign right now?

[hollow gust]

How is it wasting time? You won't be able to get to pr7 for at least a year

[silk helm]

nah like for fdg

[hushed aurora]

12-3

[sweet delta]

450/630

[silk helm]

lmao i see now

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

Read that then and work on getting more Iron blood tech for FDg

[wary timber]

How good is Felix Schultz as a DD

[soft raft]

Tanky DD but she's overshadowed damage wise by other DDs and overshadowed tankiness wise by typical tank material and Laffey II

[wary timber]

So is it a good option if I don't have Laffey II

[forest palm]

Felix is far from a Laffii adjacent, so no

[soft raft]

Yeah she can't fulfill the same role Laffey II does

[wary timber]

I see. I'm assuming Hindenburg would be a more optimal ship to research if I need more IB ships ?

[sweet delta]

why do you need more IB ships

[wary timber]

I would pull a Stroheim line but then again it's to improve tech and have more variety

My Eagle tech is at lv5 while my sakura and IB tech is at lv3

[viscid swift]

One, there are more efficient ways to get tech
2, both will be useless for a long time thanks to no BPs so the variety you're looking for won't come to fruition for quite some time

Are you even in w12 yet

[wary timber]

I'm already at 11-4 so essentially yes

[viscid swift]

Nah, being in w12 means being able to farm it endlessly for coins and XP

At least clear w12 before you even think about delving into PR and tech any further

[slender heart]

Probably biased reasons cheeky, let him be

[wary timber]

Yea a W12 push is on my list of things to do.

[viscid swift]

It should be top of the list frankly

[wary timber]

Clearing 11-4 has to come first before w12 -

[viscid swift]

It cannot be understated just how much better it is than anything else before it and how much it allows you to do

Sigh, clear 11-4 then

I don't know how you've managed to stall in 11-4 and yet you've got a wyvern

[steady beacon]

I probably know more than a few people who've done the same or similar ngl

[clever sun]

Is prinz heinrich skill worth upgrade?

[wary timber]

A Wyvern AND Tenrai

[wind hazel]

[steady beacon]

If you are using her/intending to use her, then sure

[clever sun]

Ok

[cloud fractal]

Is there a specific technique to rapidly power level ships? I’m working on Agïr and the 2.4m cdc is Vanguard IB and all I have leveled is Roon.

[keen sable]

12+

[silver lintel]

Use 3 relevant vg and farm w12

[steady beacon]

Definitely aim for full vanguard of appropriate faction(s)
Using just one literally cuts your efficiency by a third (and potentially worse)

[wind hazel]

exp book them

get the other two to lv90+ with exp book

[cloud fractal]

Right. I get that. But I can’t farm, if they’re not leveled to handle the mob fleets. Do I just stick one in between two leveled vanguards? I’m not asking how to farm the cdc. I’m trying to figure out how to rapidly get two more up to snuff to farm cdc effectively.

[wind hazel]

e x p b o o k

[steady beacon]

Exp books as Mori said then

[plain saffron]

Exp book to 100 ish
Farm in 12-1
Profit

[mental prairie]

What to do in war archive

[steady beacon]

If it's 12 safe you only need like 90 so long as there's some carry in the backline

[zinc turret]

tbh i think lv 70 enough for 12-1

[plain saffron]

Get exp from using that ships, keep the exp book from those for next ships
Repeat

[steady beacon]

(And, ofc, your eq isn't disastrous)

Positive feedback loop

[silver lintel]

As lon as u dont try 1 fleeting, lvl 70 with unicorn is enough lel

[slender heart]

Progression-wise, getting ships for tech. Other than that, i feel like i should be the one to ask that

[steady beacon]

Unlock story

[slender heart]

great answer

[steady beacon]

(Tbh though, as a practical matter, might as well just read Nagami's story player)

[mental prairie]

Thanks

[cloud fractal]

If that’s the case I might run Eugen and Eugen muse with Roon since they’re at 70. But Uni is 120. And I’ve got plenty of power in the back line.

[slender heart]

No worries

[steady beacon]

Zero effort on one's part, just no pictures (for now)

[silver lintel]

Farm jda and cosmic kicks

[keen sable]

Better idea work on some actually useful ships

[agile sky]

How long after a new Pr series release before we get the general BP tp trade for on supply shops?

[steady beacon]

Iirc PR6/DR6 blueprints were added to medal/proto in January, so probably same timeline
All subsequent new events will have PR7/DR7 in their event point shops though, no delay on that

[light trail]

i was reading up a bit but kinda skimmed but it wasnt clear, is most of the content in the game light armor or med/heavy?

[atomic abyss]

Most of the actually challenging content is med

[steady beacon]

Idk about actual statistics on this but at the very least, you see more medium/heavy enemies in like high end campaign

[atomic abyss]

Aka W13+

Or rather

Most of the enemies that actually poses a threat to you in the later campaign maps are med

[light trail]

what about w12 and event mobs

[atomic abyss]

Too weak to matter

[light trail]

understandable

[zinc turret]

w12 is basically just the ideal farming zone cuz its just that easy to the point u can use lv 70 fleet for mobbing ( with uni so they wont die )

[atomic abyss]

Event it really depends on the event anyways

[light trail]

to avoid having swapping around a lot, can i just leave AP guns on my BBs then

[zinc turret]

for early game i think most player use 406 mk6 purple

[atomic abyss]

You will have to swap them a lot in late game

Especially for bosses
Cant run away from that

[slender heart]

BB boss fleet? Definitely pay more attention to it. Mobbing is stagger optimally

[atomic abyss]

For BB on mob
Just use twin 410 if you're lazy to switch
Swap to 457 once you have it

[sharp token]

got 454 cubes wondering if i should pull for vanguard?

[steady beacon]

Sure, but use the free tickets first

[sharp token]

im saving for musashi rerun can my cubes keep up?

[steady beacon]

You get
Uh
EN I'm pre sure is 1 less
So 44 free builds

[worldly pewter]

jp anni is before musasi too

[stark quiver]

You get 168(?) gaurenteed cubes a month

[atomic abyss]

And Vanguard is more critical than Musashi anyways

Not like Musashi is coming soon anyways

[sharp token]

i don't want to miss an IJN ship

[tulip dawn]

UR reruns are around 3 months apart from each other like normal UR events right?

[worldly pewter]

pray for no pity on vanguard and jp anni then

[steady beacon]

Ngl, that may depend on your criteria for value
In the BB boss fleet, sure, but I think in other contexts Musashi could be considered more valuable

[south sequoia]

Looks like it judging from this years schedule but not enough to definitively conclude

[keen sable]

That's just going to cause you to miss amagii or whoever is next

[stark quiver]

Musashi is more valuable in campaign, but can be replaced by other Ur bb

[south sequoia]

January - UVH
April - Kronshtadt
July - Vanguard

[tulip dawn]

[worldly pewter]

not very consistent but it can be averaged out on 3 yes

[sharp token]

when did musashi released?

[steady beacon]

Instructions unclear, used Warspite Kai, had considerable issues

[tulip dawn]

JP anni 2 years ago

[stark quiver]

September 2022(?)

[worldly pewter]

fake UR

surely her unique will fix her

[vale spindle]

i used warspite kai for my w13 lethal clears and had considerably no issues :)

[forest palm]

almost like it's content from 2019, and that's the year she fell off

[steady beacon]

[stark quiver]

smh didnt last a year

[forest palm]

War Kai stayed relevant in PvP for like a year or 2 after, but modern SSRs of the time were catching up or passing her

it really doesn't help she costs so much for mediocre performance

[sharp token]

is jp anniversary guaranteed new UR?

[steady beacon]

At the very least, it can be said it has consistently been the case for the last 4 years

[keen sable]

About as guaranteed as a non guaranteed thing can be

[steady beacon]

That is a glorious line tbh

[worldly pewter]

the true question is
is jp anni guaranteed 2 new UR ?

[eager mulch]

[iron meteor]

was musashi given a free skin before>?

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm this fleet can survive 12-4 safe mode (Exp farming) , I hope? well I want to replace Ayanami with An shen but she still doesn't have The missile and yat sen but, I need CA blueprints for Anchorage

[steady beacon]

Free skin, no
Rn she has one normal skin and an oath skin

[light trail]

are these campaign markers? i dont see any more red ones

[steady beacon]

That's daily mission marker

[wind hazel]

that's daily mission

[light trail]

im confused, where do i go now then? last number i remember seeing was like 3-4 or something

[iron meteor]

tf when did i buy a skin

[crimson glacier]

probably under some other icon

isnt there a menu where you can see the quest location

[steady beacon]

Tap "Information" and check for next zone

[light trail]

ah, so just keep going until it's done?

[steady beacon]

Yep

[light trail]

ok cool

[static harbor]

Wait so if I'm already at the 200 pulls for the UR and haven't chosen yet, can I choose Shima when she's added or?

[steady beacon]

If they don't do a big dumb, you should be able to, ye

[static harbor]

Noice

[lime lichen]

Should I be coining Fate simulation or move on to dev another ship?

[slender heart]

Fatesim for who?

[lime lichen]

Roon

[slender heart]

Move to pr4

[iron meteor]

hello, ive just finised pr1 who should i move on to, is it alright to start with plymouth?

[slender heart]

Or fdg

[slender heart]

Same answer, fdg then pr4

[bright tusk]

any best stage to grind low level/lb0 main fleet affinity?

[clever sun]

When should i focus on fleet tech?

[jaunty vault]

after you're done with raising ships used for endgame content

after raising meta ships so as to say

[eager mulch]

what if the ships im using for endgame content give fleet tech

[jaunty vault]

[fresh tangle]

Should I fs5 FdG then AvP or just keep her at dev30?

[sweet delta]

why not both?

[clever sun]

Is this game have any good meta type ship?

[fresh tangle]

Can only use so many coins in one place at a time

[sweet delta]

do both but buy fewer for each

[willow dock]

At this point we have a lot of Meta ships. Are you new?

[clever sun]

I played 1 month, i just curious about META ship because their skill is cool

[plain saffron]

Meta or META

[slow fox]

Or MeTa

[plain saffron]

Some of them are good for a SR

Tldr gold good, purple bad

Except fortune for pvp

[clever sun]

So META gold ship is good, elite is bad right?what is tldr?

[steady beacon]

Too long, didn't read
Basically, that's the "summary"

[clever sun]

Thanks

[strong jasper]

How can i change wich character i have as my pfp in the ingame chat?

[tawdry sluice]

Should be fine, worst case you'll need a separate fleet to kill the boss

Also run Perseus on the other fleet for some minimal but extra healing

[silk sphinx]

I’ll note that fortune meta struggles against alsace comps

Or rather, she’s extremely squishy…

[willow dock]

✍️

[silk sphinx]

Anyhow top fleets don’t use her anymore apparently

[willow dock]

No need to tell me twice

[slow fox]

We don't use that around here.

[cobalt rapids]

its ur left most static secretary aka not the ones random selections

[steady beacon]

Well, except for those Avrorans who keep her on def fleets to troll those who tried to switch back to Shima vanguard

[fresh tangle]

Slowing down both seems like a bad play

[strong jasper]

Thank you

[silk sphinx]

I did… heh haven’t run into any fortms in a very long while

[steady beacon]

Ye same

[rapid grail]

amagi good

[worldly pewter]

farm 12-4 harder

[sweet delta]

[rapid grail]

atm, for Dossier METAs I would rec getting Helena and Souryuu. Helena's pretty good for a gun CL and Souryuu META's stronger than Hiryuu META. Plus she gives +2 CV RLD

if u care about CV HIT then get Hiryuu META as well

[fresh tangle]

Fine I’ll get 12-4 safe. Was doing 12-1 for FdG CDC

[sweet delta]

you can buy 10 fdg and 0 avp
but why not buy 9 fdg and 4 avp for the same(?) price

[fresh tangle]

What’s the coin difference between 12-1 and 12-4?

[sweet delta]

/wiki chapter 12v

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_12

[fresh tangle]

Might just stay in 12-1 for the exp and ride it out

[drifting pecan]

what the difference between air and firepower?

does it drop different loot?

[crimson glacier]

in firepower you need to use unit that use firepower, and in air you need to use aviation

[worldly pewter]

yeah diffrent plates

focus on the firepower imo

[vale spindle]

yes the plate types are skewed differently

[drifting pecan]

so, you need specific fleet for get specific loot too?

[crimson glacier]

you need specific fleets to not lose

[vale spindle]

the boss takes massively reduced damage from specific attack types, which the game should tell you on your fleet select screen

[crimson glacier]

isnt it just massively increased dmg for the correct instead of reducing others

[vale spindle]

could be i forgot

[crimson glacier]

thats how ppl love to fake screenshots of shit stuff getting mvp

[drifting pecan]

ah i see, thanks

[still merlin]

Guam's skill said "if the ship above flagship is BB/BC/BBV..." mean this spot?

[hollow sail]

that is where you put uvh

[willow dock]

Is it ever worth doing C4 and below if (according to the game) you can do C5 and onwards? Just looking for a optimal grind since I'm kinda late on OpSi this month

[cobalt rapids]

c3

and the game is rly bad at estimating ur fleets strengths

[willow dock]

So the only numbers I should trust is the 3 numbers being 205-205-225?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[hollow sail]

doesn't the game only look at those numbers to determine the level anyway

[cobalt rapids]

idk how this is calculated but its not something u should follow nonetheless regarding what zones u can do, simply to try and see
as long as adapts are 203/203/156 ure good to go

[hollow sail]

if you're looking to burn AP for cat nodes then it's either C3 and C5, they have similar rates but C3 provides more akashi spawns which can provide more AP which lets you keep going longer. but it requires more attention/time from your part as a result

[willow dock]

That's an easy fix as long as I have the "stop auto at merchant.." tho no?

[hollow sail]

yes, as long as you can burn all AP before the end of the month it's not a problem

[willow dock]

I usually never even burn all ap and just reserve it for strong holds

I guess if it's there I may as well use it

[hollow sail]

it's something you do after you're done with all hidden zones/abyssals/strongholds

[cobalt rapids]

only do it after u cleared all explorables, all r3+ loggers, all abysalls, all strongholds

[willow dock]

Oh

[calm rose]

Arby harby doesnt use ap

[tame jungle]

No

[forest palm]

[still merlin]

Isn't that how most game with combat numbers belike?

[worldly pewter]

i don't think so
AL is a mixture of ships and gear
i think these numbers only reflect the ship stats

[cobalt rapids]

no, for games with linear upgrades the numbers work
but for al most of the stuff is situational so it doesnt

[still merlin]

Non-related to AL but some certain game I played with combat number, they don't reflect correctly when the team is built to maximize dmg output but the game doesn't count in the passives and skills

Likewise, AL ignored the support ships so some of those ships has a normal combat numbers but pepega dmg coz their purpose is to support main fleet
Personal thought, I could be wrong

Eternal wait !

[crimson glacier]

damn 1 research off from the worst possible

[cobalt rapids]

wrong room but

[calm rose]

Why

[sacred parrot]

Oh shi
SORRY

[calm rose]

Each gold basic is like 12 hours right? That gives almost nth

[still merlin]

Some can cost 6hrs, some with 8hrs

[steady beacon]

Ye, but the one thing they all have in common is appalling returns

[still merlin]

Most ppl don't recommend taking it but for those new players with no resource, ig they have no other option

[steady beacon]

Yep
I remember doing them when new with no resources
Beggars can't be choosers

[inland shoal]

Just don't be poor

[calm rose]

proverty solved

[spring bolt]

new players can aviod C as well, they just don't know how and spent resources on stuffs that can be delayed

[lilac jacinth]

Who is the 3 double fighters for W15 support again?

[cobalt rapids]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[lilac jacinth]

Can someone help me screenshot this part with the pics?

[lilac jacinth]

Thank you

[wary robin]

is Nakhimov detection gauge regeneration being good (2 for 5s), or bonus too small and jsut cosmetic?

[inland shoal]

I don't think it's going to be a game changer like ever

[signal leaf]

how do i get more general plates or plates in general 😭

[atomic abyss]

Farm maps
If it's purple plates, w13+
Gold plates, opsi
Any other plates, w12

[signal leaf]

thanks

[clever sun]

What shipyard should i develop first?

[frank pulsar]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[clever sun]

So roon first or FDG?

[frank pulsar]

if you havent done a pr1 ship yet, then roon
otherwise fdg

[light trail]

which plates are in the highest demand

[hollow sail]

aircraft/mg

[inland shoal]

I usually get 5 of each plane and mg

But you can also just go for the ones you need for the next gear you want to +13

[steady beacon]

"Game changer", no
But working in a relatively similar way to York II/Implac, she can def keep her concealment more easily, which can be of importance in some (boss) fights where concealment is under heavy pressure

It's actually an enlightening thing to observe the difference betwen the IJN fleet and the USS fleet in this regard, but probably only a small handful of people would ever care for this detail

[modern aurora]

Is investing into the German U-Boats as a fleet worth it or is it like a side gig?

[steady beacon]

Investing in a sub fleet (U-boat or otherwise) is worth doing at a certain point, when you have the resources to properly invest in the sub fleet
But it shouldn't take priority over the surface fleet(s)

[modern aurora]

oke

[inland shoal]

It's just 10 ticks every 25 seconds

I don't see that being helpful almost ever

[steady beacon]

Only really Arbiter tbh
But when Shina/Haku are revealed by third rotation while YorkII/Implac are hidden, you notice the difference

[whole crypt]

just research for collection no worthy foe exists in-game

[spring bolt]

iirc natural regen is 5/s, her skill is 10 every 25s so that's about 8%, and need to reach 25s mark...
trival tbh

[steady beacon]

That's the real problem isn't it

[dire burrow]

will perseus ever rerun or is she j in standard banner now

[steady beacon]

Percy is perma special

[dire burrow]

damn

is there a timeline for the special pull event where u can choose ur ship?

[inland shoal]

Tbh I'm not entirely sure it's just because of that skill
For Yk 2 the skill increases the natural regen by 40% 28% of the time so it's ~11% (technically slightly less cuz it doesn't trigger at the start of combat)
For cat it's 40% 20% of the time so 8%
Another difference is that usually Yk will trigger before the airstrike and cat after the airstrike I believe

[steady beacon]

We'll get one during EN anniversary middle of August

[dire burrow]

ok tyty. sry havent logged on in a while. does EN anni include new UR or is that Jp only

[jaunty vault]

cant say

[steady beacon]

So just to check I'm reading this correctly, you're saying you expect it will be less impactful on Nakhi due to the timing compared to Yorktown's version of gauge decrease?

[jaunty vault]

past EN anniversaries never had UR events atleast so don't get your hopes up

[dire burrow]

and does the summer skins come out during anni? or already past

[steady beacon]

To this day I'm not 100% sure how skin themes are picked for when

[jaunty vault]

we can never say for certain what future events happen until they're announced

[steady beacon]

We can ask Thorin for sure-fire ™️ stat predictions from the stat hex though

[whole crypt]

do you want her because she's waifu or do you want her because you saw she's T-Ex on tier list or heard good things about her

[jaunty vault]

in my defence, stat hex does get announced

[steady beacon]

And in my defence, that was just a joke, please don't shoot me

[jaunty vault]

[dire burrow]

been tryna get her since i missed her first banner

[inland shoal]

Yes

• unsure about the impact of Yorkii's skill too

Best way to use Nakhimov is make her hit 40% roughly in the mid of battle

[steady beacon]

I mean
In York II/Implac's case, I'm not really sure how to objectively quantify the impact
All I can say with certainty is that it is on average harder to break their concealment than with Haku/Shina
How much other factors play a role is an open question, but the key difference I see in Implac/YorkII is their gauge mitigation skills

[whole crypt]

EN anniversary will likely have a wishing well but I won't really recommend pulling for her unless you're just wrapping up collection at this point, Unicorn basically just replaced her with her retrofit

[steady beacon]

Maybe I should stop with my BB nonsense and actually spend my time studying the ships I actually like to use
Still not sure how to set up a good test though...

[dire burrow]

yeh thats fair i like her preload tho i feel like itd make farming faster

[novel condor]

Unicorn retro have preload also wdym

[dire burrow]

Perseus has 2 tho rite

[novel condor]

yes but she has overall less sustain damage over time, she's only really useful if u can end fights quickly

[atomic abyss]

2, but she's completely scuffed for the rest of the battle

[whole crypt]

Perssus only does like 0.6-0.7 per strike of Unicorn

[atomic abyss]

Her individual airstrikes already do less damage than uni
And she's basically useless for the rest of the battle

95% reload increase is honestly dumb

And frankly even without the reload increase she's already scuffed enough with the shit efficiencies

[whole crypt]

you can end fights quickly without Perseus but if the fight doesn't end quickly then Perseus makes it worse than Unicorn

[atomic abyss]

With that said she's still the 2nd best healer in the game

The nail in the coffin is that uni is just so much easier to get
And retrofit

Perseus you need to luck her out from the gacha

And honestly if you got Percy from the gacha, feelsbadman
That could have been an Enterprise

[novel condor]

And she costs purins which early on is quite important to reserve other gold ships

[dire burrow]

O damn I feel like a yr ago they were both generally considered equal

[atomic abyss]

Pre retro certainly Perseus is far ahead

[novel condor]

After uni retro she falls way behind

[atomic abyss]

Retrofit really meant that there's no reason to use Percy now unless you want to level her up too I suppose

If Perseus was a CV as opposed to CVL she would have a smidgen more use I guess

Then you could put her as solo CV and 1:1 C2 farm or something

But noooooo

[jaunty vault]

blame the brits

[frank pulsar]

^^^ i only ever used her for w15
0 use outside of that

[cobalt rapids]

i use percy in opsi mob, shes very good i think

[clever sun]

Is TBF avenger worth upgrade?

[cobalt rapids]

what tbf avenger

[exotic wren]

i just translated that to "to be fair avenger" damn it

[strange sphinx]

the bb TB

VT-18 squadron

[cobalt rapids]

not worth getting in the first place

[dawn hamlet]

Hi During the rerun event of Vanguard, are we also getting a free SR with the invitation?

[jaunty vault]

i dont think we'll be getting the invitation, but if we do, yes

invitation was CN anni specific so it most likely won't be returning

[dawn hamlet]

ah make sense, thanks for the info
well I'll get Graff Zeppelin another time then

[undone plover]

EN anni will most likely have an invitation

[dawn hamlet]

oh I still have hope then, thank you

[jaunty vault]

it may not have GZ

[tropic parcel]

iirc the invitation is only during the various anniversaries so likely not

but the ships they give out with it change all the time and GZ may not be in the next one so if you really want her wait for the next wishing well

[strange sphinx]

best poverty tb plane for independence?

[cobalt rapids]

i wouldnt call it poverty

[frank pulsar]

best poverty tb are barracuda and tenzan kai

[strange sphinx]

sigh, I can craft Skypirate but It will rat my military supplies

[cobalt rapids]

not worth crafting either

[tame jungle]

don't just go crafting random stuff guys

getting berke ptsd

[eager mulch]

I have a skypirate

is my acct bricked?

[tame jungle]

yes just uninstall

[eager mulch]

damn, just got a 30 min nakh too

[exotic wren]

.....I have 3 sorry, guess I'll quit the world

[tame jungle]

whole account ruined

[broken pivot]

What's with a skypirate?

[strange sphinx]

Hmmm have Vt-18 avenger (Bought it like 1 year ago)

[frank pulsar]

it just very expensive for a okayish upgrade iirc, its not by any means a bad plane

[eager mulch]

[rose cosmos]

Vanguard is must pull right?

[eager mulch]

I’d say so

[cobalt rapids]

+1 hit

[rose cosmos]

I hope 130 cores are enough then

[tropic parcel]

if you have every single other UR BB not exactly must pull but otherwise she is the strongest BB buffer in the game

[frank pulsar]

isnt she like the strongest buffer in the backline

[cobalt rapids]

for bb

[calm rose]

pull her during the 44 free pulls

[icy mountain]

should i buy a homing beacon to sync avp in opsi?

[cobalt rapids]

if got enough shells and indep

[tropic parcel]

she is but i believe with alsace and soyuz the numbers are quite similar even without the vanguard buff

[icy mountain]

got 3 pairs of each and indep

[cobalt rapids]

sure then

[tropic parcel]

and recent meta fights have been so specific with lineups that you don't use triple BB fleets that often

[late heron]

should center main always be the mvp for pr main exp grind

or does it not matter

[cobalt rapids]

doesnt

[pale wasp]

what do i do here?

[atomic abyss]

1 light build a day outside events

[pale wasp]

might i ask why?

[atomic abyss]

to save cubes for event builds, which have limited ships, and also ships from the permanent pool

[pale wasp]

[atomic abyss]

also - there is a mission for building a ship, which gives you 1 cube

[pale wasp]

a day?

[atomic abyss]

1 light build a day means you re-coup your investment

a daily mission yes

[pale wasp]

i see. that makes sense

i started over a year ago and stopped playing but am not to far in to the game. i dont suppose it matters right?

[atomic abyss]

in that case

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

will likely still be applicable to you

[gritty gull]

is there a unique augment tier list or a certain order It is better to do them in?

[atomic abyss]

well it depends on what ships you're using

[sinful elk]

Is these gears good for kron or needing some changes

[atomic abyss]

i.e, if you're still using hood, then hood augment is the highest priority

[atomic abyss]

as good as it gets if you lack better secondaries and PR rudder

[sinful elk]

PR rudder?

Oh that I got 2 but i placed them on helena and anchorage

[atomic abyss]

yeah they want them more

[gritty gull]

Is it worth building hood just for her augment?

[atomic abyss]

the better question is, what do you have that makes you not use hood

because unless you're rolling in UR BBs, you will almost certainly find use for Hood

especially given that she can fill up BC slots

[sinful elk]

Does the 155mm kai work better than tbtsk

[atomic abyss]

it's as good as it gets really

assuming you actually have 1 to spare

[sinful elk]

Yeah i got one but is seattle good for pushing ch13 above

[atomic abyss]

seattle gun or seattle herself

[sinful elk]

Herself

[atomic abyss]

very meh

not the worst option given US CL but there are many better options

[gritty gull]

It looks like Amagi might be my only other BC

[atomic abyss]

then you should absolutely invest in hood anyways

well, maybe not invest in her aug until you're ready to use her at least

[sinful elk]

I kinda find it struggling to fight planes since my sandy is yet to be retro and my boss fleet often eats a lot of bombs

[gritty gull]

how many BCs even are there?

[atomic abyss]

sandy even without retro with her augment is already way better than most AA ships in the game lol

[atomic abyss]

not many
but the ones that beat hood are all PR locked

[gritty gull]

ye I missed tamaki during the rerun since I was on a break from the game :/

[sinful elk]

[atomic abyss]

so if planes are an issue
just get sandy's aug

[sinful elk]

Nah its like where i put her the other fleet struggle

[pale wasp]

got it. ill check em out

[atomic abyss]

anyways
the most notable ones are
Hood, Saratoga, Shangri-la, Kawakaze, Sandy
honourable mentions to montpelier, taihou, u-47, z-46 and kagerou

[pale wasp]

should i just restart cause why not?

[atomic abyss]

i wouldn't personally

[pale wasp]

i assume the fact ive got 25k of that oil (idk what it does) also helps in me not restarting

[atomic abyss]

time to get cheshire then

from PR3

[pale wasp]

what does the oil currency do?

is it energy?

[atomic abyss]

essentially, yes

[sinful elk]

My seattle is dev 26 so i guess i don't need her that much

[pale wasp]

any of these yellow ones decent aight?

[spring bolt]

the most valuable ship in this screenshot is unicorn

[eager mulch]

kawakaze with Aug is a pretty good damage dealer

[pale wasp]

lowkey hurts my soul

is there someway i can revert the levels of my ships?

[spring bolt]

why would you do that?

[tame jungle]

There is not

[pale wasp]

so i can level my other ships instead i guess

[pale wasp]

unfortunate. so i gotta live with my mistakes

[spring bolt]

you can simply level other ships and leave leveled ships there
also indomitable is no 2 valuable so you are fine

[sinful elk]

Chat is this good enough to do 13-4

[pale wasp]

[spring bolt]

and stop leveling bulins, they are lb material

[pale wasp]

i wonder what warranted me levelling laffey

[undone plover]

helena should be in boss fleet
switch her with laffey

and put her in center. off tank sandy

[sinful elk]

Thats everything?

[atomic abyss]

Seattle was never that good to begin with
Even on release

[undone plover]

fleets are decent
check ACV before sortie
u want it green
i think 4 CV is enough for green

[pale wasp]

this for me? what is a bulin?

[spring bolt]

yes.

[sinful elk]

Was planning to use 6 cvs to make sure of that too

[pale wasp]

ah that. yea idk why shes lvl4 lol

[undone plover]

nah that is overkill
current backline is rly good
i think it should be green ACV just double check

[spring bolt]

when i was new, the reason that stopped me to level a bulin was "what kind of nation would name a warship 'universal bulin'? something is off for this ship"

[sinful elk]

Its not green have to replace alsace with theseus is that good?

[urban grail]

even ur current fleets alr overkill

just try it and find out

[drifting pecan]

you got me there, in my early day those bulin look suspicious too, i mean what kind of ship using hammer as their weapon, while other use shield, sword, and kind of

[whole crypt]

have you tried reading the bulins' skills

[undone plover]

how close are you? when u clock the ACV button what is the number?
it can change when u sortie since it takes AA into account after u start the sortie
tbh even if not full AS+ it is fine having alsace cross will help mob and she is great in boss fleet anyway

[sinful elk]

3453/4630 well putting theseus in only change it to 4k so i guess i'll just keep alsace

[undone plover]

i dont remember 13-4 ACV req being this high
as long as u have one of these 2 it is good

also hopefully recon is green so u dont get hit with ambushes

[sinful elk]

Got the AS one ty homie

[pale wasp]

ive actually decided to just begin anew and was wondering if the server i play on matters at all?

[undone plover]

between the EN servers there is no difference
only slightly matters for PvP and if u have friends u want to be on the same server with

[pale wasp]

friends? what is that?

[inland shoal]

Ig you could start on one with
BB/CV in medal shop
Dunno how fast you're gonna get those 80 medals tho

[undone plover]

oh yeah that too

[pale wasp]

nah but dont have any friends that play this game and i dont think i paticuarly care about pvp.

[pale wasp]

i could try that i suppose. what server would i join for that then