gameplay-help

[uncut oar]

I have her in dock, I have the table and Hamaal was joking about me forgetting that table #2 is the one thing I need from the Vanny banner

[calm rose]

jokes on you, now that you dont need to get another vanguard, you are gonna get one

[willow dock]

Just realized ply gets main gun base + at 6 stars
Dosent that technically mean she has 2 sloted main gun mounts?

[signal pollen]

For opsi, will it matter for bb main gun or do all sirens have the same armor

[eternal moth]

She actually has 3

[uncut oar]

It will matter

[calm rose]

they dont have the same armor, hence the need to choose between AP and HE

[signal pollen]

would it be easier to op for cv for opsi then since I don't have to choose armor?

[calm rose]

cv need to choose the right planes for the task too

[eternal moth]

No, because then you have to choose the right planes

[uncut oar]

You still have to choose planes, either ways you're thinking about gear choice

[native folio]

triangle

[eternal moth]

CVs are actually tougher to gear for than BBs

[signal pollen]

pensive sobbing

[uncut oar]

BBs at least have the out of HE everything at the cost of some damage on med/heavy if you really absolutely must be lazy

But please just choose the right gun it's not hard

[hollow gust]

There is like 10+ different meta planes you can pick

[eternal moth]

BBs it's just knowing whether you need HE or AP; if it's light armor, you use HE. If it's anything else, you use AP. And you will generally only use a couple of different guns: MK6/7 for HE, and Champaign/Soyuz for AP. There are exceptions, but as an overall guide that's all you really need

[calm rose]

~~whats with the triangle ~~

[native folio]

lmao oops i meant to search for it

[signal pollen]

Do I just craft and equip whatever I can? also how do I change equips mid opsi?

[eternal moth]

These are the only 2 battleship guns you really need, unless you're using Musashi or someone else that requires a different gun due to skills

[uncut oar]

Read what Hamaal said for gun choices to craft. Also, opsi doesn't lock gear

[soft raft]

dont just go crafting willy nilly
And you change equips like you normally do, nothing special

[eternal moth]

Change gear by clicking and holding on the picture to the left

[cobalt rapids]

why is fdg gun red bordered

[remote yarrow]

Ask Sam

[uncut oar]

@ sam moment?

[signal pollen]

Alright thanks, I'll just spend the rest of my protos on buying the 406

[remote yarrow]

slamhart

[uncut oar]

[sweet delta]

What does red border mean

[cobalt rapids]

high priority

[remote yarrow]

High priority

[uncut oar]

Recommended gear

[calm rose]

important

[inland shoal]

Best at something

[sweet delta]

Why is Soyuz red while Flandre isnt

With how hard it is to use Soyuz gun for 4 salvo showdown

[silk helm]

bruh i was following this guide like the bible...

[remote yarrow]

I mean it's not a bad guide at all

[sweet delta]

Better than following kimo like a cardinal

[eternal moth]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Glossary.jpeg

[uncut oar]

It's not bad at all, I think fdg gun is red because it's explicitly a HE barrage gun and in that niche it is the best iirc?

[cobalt rapids]

but we got green outlines for niche

[silk helm]

preach

[eternal moth]

I use FdG gun all the time for mobbing

[uncut oar]

Yeah, I know, I'm just saying that's why I think the decision was made

[eternal moth]

It's not niche, it's just not high priority

[uncut oar]

I'm not saying I particularly agree with that

[silk sphinx]

Wait why is fdg red

[forest palm]

there's nothing the Twin 406 SKC does that the Twin 410 Kai does, so no it's not BIS by any means

[calm rose]

yall uses fdg gun!?

[cobalt rapids]

why isnt fdg gun niche

[eternal moth]

You can throw it on anyone and have it be decent

[uncut oar]

I know 410kai is a thing but I also remember fdg gun being like. Slightly better as a technicality. I would use the 410kai over fdg gun myself just because it's cheaper

[cobalt rapids]

so like all the other guns ?

niche for me means a situation where u would specifically pick that piece of equipment be rare

[calm rose]

who actually prefers dual gun over mk6? i seriously just toss mk6 onto the bb im using ever since i got it. not counting UR twin ofc

[forest palm]

if you truly need a Barrage Gun regardless of armor type the 457 will invalidate all

[cobalt rapids]

maybe when ure running multi bb and u want stagger

[sweet delta]

Who runs 3 BB in mob

[calm rose]

ahhh, never thought about multi BB mobbing

[uncut oar]

I mean stagger still is a thing with 2bb

[calm rose]

Im sorry i use two CV one BB for mobbing so i seriously didnt know

[strange sphinx]

hmmm is it good to run Implacable with Ark royal for slow meme and British fleet meme

[atomic abyss]

no reason to run ark if you're running impla

well

[sweet delta]

good meme is whatever you think is good meme

[cobalt rapids]

u can slow meme with nahkimov

[atomic abyss]

unless you're missing every relevant carrier i suppose, enty included

[silk sphinx]

There are slightly more battleships than cvs, so if you’re a tech farmer you may eventually have to do 3bb fleets

Heck, bms maybe

[uncut oar]

They did say hms meme but wouldn't lusty class be better meme than running ark with impla at that point

[hollow gust]

No? Lusty has terrible damage

[strange sphinx]

I mean I have Uni, Sara, Enty, YT2, Independence, still working for AvP but pretty much good in CV, but meh with Vanguard, really bad

[uncut oar]

I'm aware, that's the point, but bringing it up might not have been the best idea anyways even for me

[zealous cave]

how "bad" is the triple 310mm compared to other cb guns?

[signal pollen]

Dumb question but this is medium armor right?

[uncut oar]

Yes it even says so

[tame crypt]

yes

[eternal moth]

It's HE, not AP, so not usually recommended

[cobalt rapids]

it says under the lvl

[remote yarrow]

Reading can do wonders

[reef flume]

Good against light armor only

[wispy pendant]

310 is best light armor CB gun.

[cobalt rapids]

where arrows

[forest palm]

that chart means little to people that lack the knowledge to parse it

[zealous cave]

oh rip

[signal pollen]

I was just making sure 😔

[uncut oar]

If the game flat out tells you the armor type I think you can trust it

[remote yarrow]

Idk about that, the game tells me Siren is weak against CVs or BBs when it doesn't work

[atomic abyss]

well for one the opsi bosses weakness thing just isn't a thing

[soft raft]

bold of you to post a off-topic image in the presence of a admin wink wink

[uncut oar]

okay at least for opsi armor types I don't think there is an actual mistake??

[wispy pendant]

Is this better?

[forest palm]

it's pointless really

[earnest flare]

when specifically going after DR prints (pr4, also doing fs for anch and avp), is 1.5, 2.5, or 4 hr G most efficient?

[forest palm]

waste of effort for what could be concisely typed out in few words

understand posting that is just visual garbage

[wispy pendant]

i mean we could have an auto bot just respond with Samheart's compendium of guides for anything posted here with that attitude.

[cobalt rapids]

best light armor ?

[soft raft]

just do the typical 1.5 and 2 hr ones
Only real way to make getting DR Prints faster/more efficent is getting the PRs to D30 (Or if they have it, FS5) to get rid of their face research from the pool

[forest palm]

and now you're goal post moving

[earnest flare]

ok sweet, and which of the rigging analysis (Q?) most efficient for tenrai prints

[wispy pendant]

pretty sure the one at the top is the best against light armor still, don't think there is a catch.

[calm rose]

its actually at the bottom

[small fern]

How do I get good gears as a new player

[lean warren]

is Vanguard a must have? I saw she's having a rerun but I'm saving for the new US ship

[wispy pendant]

is that because AP pierces, or are we not considering the hype that is burns from HE, or am I missing something that makes ply guns plain dps numbers not translate well against light armor?

[cobalt rapids]

techboxes till u transition into research and gearlab gear

theres many factors that wiki dps doesnt consider

geohitrate being the biggest culprit for one

[calm rose]

[signal pollen]

A bit scared to ask but why is there timing in the bb section? is it for things like helena debuff?

[soft raft]

Yes absolutely
All gacha URs are worth going for

You also get free tickets on reruns so cant hurt to use those

[small fern]

They're rare though

[cobalt rapids]

among others yes, timing is important in this game

[forest palm]

almost like what I said originally was right to begin with, funny shit

[wispy pendant]

feels like I need a jimmy test youtube

[small fern]

Yay more urs to roll for , even when I'm like 20 pulls away from Ur pity

[uncut oar]

There's also Vanny's buff conveniently for BB timing given she's next banner

[small fern]

Is Shinano a good ur

[calm rose]

the top gold light gun is event exclusive too

[cobalt rapids]

why do u need a test ytube when u can see normal 155 rated higher than ply

[lean warren]

anyways anyone knows if the new US ship will be UR or something?

[small fern]

how do I get the gear lab gear stuff

[wispy pendant]

because I haven't seen a test against light armor that shows it

[soft raft]

Definetly not a UR (Or at least I find it extremely unlikely)
We have a livestream for next Friday

[small fern]

like materials, opsi?

[uncut oar]

Opsi for the most part

[calm rose]

by playing op si mainly

[small fern]

NGL my dumbass didn't know how to exit

[wispy pendant]

so vanguard rerun will be going at the same time as the live stream?

[soft raft]

Vanguard rerun starts 7/17
Livestream is on 7/19

[forest palm]

https://www.youtube.com/live/d1RLo09l6_4

[remote yarrow]

Youtube bad

[forest palm]

I don't know this is pretty basic shit, though EN doesn't know how to read

[remote yarrow]

~~I get confused with US dates just use DD/MM/YY ~~

[signal pollen]

wouldn't soyuz gun be the overall better pick since it has med damage?

compared to champy

[soft raft]

Well you can only have one Soyuz gun (until Soyuz rerun) so you're gonna have to use Champy either way

[forest palm]

that's Japanese though you fool, also Youtube auto converts everything lmao

[uncut oar]

Heavy damage for one thing, and it's a little slower also which can matter, very slightly slower

[wispy pendant]

so new event likely 24/25th? 🇺🇸 🦅

[signal pollen]

oh I didn't read that I couldn't get it 💀

[remote yarrow]

Oh 🚪 🏃

[signal pollen]

Does progressing in the opsi storyline up any rewards or am I fine at ch 5

[worldly pewter]

u need to make sure about the fact that u can auto the stage
1 cleared already
2 enough moral

[soft raft]

after you finish chapter 5 you unlock the monthly reset which lets you grind the whole map again every month for resources
And be sure to do the practice arbiters to unlock the arbiter fight as well, that's a good source of materials esp with the selectors it drops

[signal pollen]

What's a practice arbiter

[livid creek]

Someone was able to resolve it for me, it was a setting on showing duplicate ship drops lol

[wispy pendant]

for practicing with different load outs to flex your results, or something

[soft raft]

no that's not it

[calm rose]

is it the story quest arbiter fight or smth?

[soft raft]

Yeah that

[wispy pendant]

oh, not the one after you clear harbiter?

[calm rose]

the one you're thinking about is after harbiter

[uncut oar]

What part of "am I fine at ch5" made you think we're talking about the one after harby

[soft raft]

also "to unlock the arbiter fight"

[wispy pendant]

the one where I don't read previous posts before I post

[signal pollen]

Where do I find arby

[uncut oar]

Maybe that's something you should... Iunno, start doing?

[calm rose]

the red swirly thing at the center of opsi map

[wispy pendant]

is there a guide somewhere I could reference?

[signal pollen]

oh i gotta unlock it then. thanks

[uncut oar]

Guide for what

[signal pollen]

This should be good for light and heavy/medium right? Or do I have to change aa as well

[eager mulch]

i dont see a good light loadout

[wispy pendant]

aa is fine, but you can use a better shelling HE gun like mk6 or mk7 instead of fdg's gun

[soft raft]

give her a 406mk6/406mk7 instead of FdG gun for anti-light
Twin guns dont sync reliably with Helena debuff

[calm rose]

you use mk6/7 for light but the current loadout is the correct one for med/heavy

[uncut oar]

That AA is good btw

[signal pollen]

okay. Thanks for the help

[calm rose]

your gold gun plate should be used on the champy gun instead of FDG gun btw

[signal pollen]

I will note that next time I have gold plates. thanks for the tip

[glossy spear]

Should I be using my gems to buy more dock space? Also is there a reason to keep commons or should I just use them to enhance my ships so I don’t need to buy more space?

[soft raft]

yes esp if they're F2P gems
And yes use commons for enhancement fodder, otherwise scrap (But you should still be buying more dock space as often as you can)

[glossy spear]

Ok also is there anything else I should be spending gems on

[uncut oar]

there's also specifically a few commons (Nevada being one of them) with good Fleet Tech and therefore should be 120'd at some point, but that's something you worry about when you run out of better things to do

[soft raft]

2nd floor of dorm and 3rd dorm slot, esp if you grind alot since 3 slots on both floors is enough for a full fleet

[copper girder]

Where do you get super heavy shells at

[uncut oar]

core data

[soft raft]

core data shop

[copper girder]

Any other way

[soft raft]

nop

[glossy spear]

Thx

[wispy pendant]

in trying to grind Napoli, I'm discovering the lvl 100 Trento sucks pretty badly

[soft raft]

🆗

[forest palm]

[wispy pendant]

who would likely be better used later on at lvl 125, tashkent, avrora or voroshilov? I'm leaning avrora

[calm rose]

Avrora

[stark quiver]

do i earn less xp in 12-4 compared to 12-1

[soft raft]

Uh did you confuse Avrora with Aurora?

[calm rose]

Avrora is the russian right?

[sweet delta]

Be real, are you going to use Tashkent or voro in endgame at 125?

[candid meteor]

yes

[wispy pendant]

avrora is for vanguard damage memes or maybe semi serious

[eager mulch]

ive seen avroras being used the most of those three

[dapper musk]

What’s vanguard specifically good for?

[viscid swift]

I've been grinding with Trento just fine

[wispy pendant]

don't they have a freeze that will help with Nakhimov?

[soft raft]

BB buff utility

[sweet delta]

Be real, are you going to throw a vanguard slot away for that?

[eager mulch]

for avrora? maybe

[wispy pendant]

Trento dying in w12-4

[viscid swift]

try 12-1 then?

[wispy pendant]

10-4 (means affirmative)

[viscid swift]

what

[soft raft]

huh

[sweet delta]

ten four

[calm rose]

...

[undone plover]

Level 110 ships
How is anyone dying?

[forest palm]

poor AA, among other things

[stark quiver]

do they have half decent gear?

[calm rose]

Qbsolute doodoo aa

[sweet delta]

skill issue maybe

[eager mulch]

gear issue maybe

[wispy pendant]

the kids these days say "bet" instead of "10-4"

[sweet delta]

Also trying to use Trento as a main tank

[wispy pendant]

okay fine, i'll swap trento out for pola

[worldly pewter]

farm a bit for levels in easier maps
i think underleveling is the issue

what do u have in the crossfleet ?

[wispy pendant]

also zero cog chips makes it hard to unlock level caps

[wispy pendant]

nothing, they all leveling too

[soft raft]

Like as in your boss fleet is full of levelling fodder?

[wispy pendant]

yes

[soft raft]

Bruh why

[wispy pendant]

because, why not?

[calm rose]

If the boss fleet aint dying. I dont see the issue?

[wispy pendant]

I guess I still have implacable there, but everyone else is leveling. I had her there for w13-1 carry earlier, haven't swapped her out

This is my boss fleet now

[undone plover]

Well if u said yourself you are out of cog chips what is the point of the extra xp u get

[wispy pendant]

they can store up 3 million

[calm rose]

Im more surprised at your boss fleet vanguard surviving

[undone plover]

True
But your xp income will outpace cog chip income regardless

[wispy pendant]

yeah, but nothing will outpace my copium

You saying I should throw in another UR or something to speed things up?

[crisp wadi]

How long from vanny till new ur ?

[soft raft]

Mid/late September

[crisp wadi]

Is it recommend to get vanny ? I'm at 200ish cube rn. She's the only one ur I still don't have

[soft raft]

She's very worth it

[wispy pendant]

yes, good luck

hope you get her with rerun tickets

[soft raft]

we also have like two months before the next UR, you got plenty of time to rebuild your cube stock

And reruns give free teickets

[sweet delta]

Use free tickets and not cubes

[undone plover]

Basically yeah.
I mean only u know your xp income and cog chip income/usage personally but maximizing xp efficiency does not matter after some point

[wispy pendant]

fair, i'll throw in something to speed it up

nothing like finishing combat data 1 on a DR before combat data 2 is unlocked

[undone plover]

That is why u wait like me for both to unlock

[forest palm]

too lazy la

I do like to use HELP for CDC farming

[uncut oar]

I mean is there really any other good use for HELPs? just event farming and CDC right?

[eager mulch]

war archive map drops

[soft raft]

they're mainly for if you lack time to grind

[uncut oar]

! right. forgot warchives

[undone plover]

HVAR farm during rerun

[soft raft]

True...

[silk sphinx]

Because they’re completely timegated you can use them to brag

[cobalt rapids]

but my hit

[uncut oar]

imagine bragging

[silk sphinx]

Once you finish all mainline ships and are left with only vanguard ships then it’s fairly ok

Especially if it’s only purple stuff and below

[undone plover]

I already do 13-4 mainly tbh
But that is cause I have 30-40 ships that need awakening

[wispy pendant]

someday over the rainbow

[unborn owl]

any suggest fleet for preparation in W14?

[soft raft]

if you're looking for fleet reccs, post your dock in a thread

[half plover]

is it recommended to switch from pr4 prints to pr7?

I finished AvP and anch

[remote yarrow]

No, finish pr4

[cobalt rapids]

Focus ? No finish pr4

[soft raft]

Yeah stick with PR4

[half plover]

okok

ty

[sweet delta]

Seems like a troll

[soft raft]

Damn

[unborn owl]

sorry, i forgot.

[cobalt rapids]

Doesnt it get boring after 2 y

[soft raft]

Surely you'd have better material by this point

[unborn owl]

what kind of material

[stark quiver]

ships and gear

[unborn owl]

should i gonna make the thread or someone might be called me troll again?

[stark quiver]

i mean if you really are struggling after a year then make a thread

[cobalt rapids]

U can make thread ppl here give the benefit of doubt multiple times

[unborn owl]

many times

[cobalt rapids]

Many times

[native folio]

should i keep buying the elite and rare ships in the guild shop until i MLB portland and unicorn?

[stark quiver]

if you have excess coins to

if youre new thats gonna eat up all you have

[remote yarrow]

Probably not for Unicorn but Portland maybe yes

You can just use Bulins for Unicorn

[native folio]

hmm why use the bulins for unicorn but not portland?

[cobalt rapids]

U can but elite ships are expensiver

[echo adder]

How do i get more royal navy Tech points?

[remote yarrow]

expensiver

[cobalt rapids]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[unborn owl]

can DDG survive from kamikaze ship in w14?

[stark quiver]

yes, granted it kills said rammer ship

[echo adder]

Seems like ill have to use alot of bulin's

[soft raft]

yes that's the whole point
A huge bulk of your tech points will be from obtain and MLB

[atomic abyss]

they certainly can't face tank a bomb boat, but they can kill them so

[viscid swift]

just post your dock in a thread, a lot more efficient than this back and forth

[unborn owl]

W14 Fleet Suggestion

[sweet delta]

#1166347356522938409 message tell me how this isn't trolling when they're already at 15

[cobalt rapids]

Unfortunate

[stark quiver]

maybe 3 star

nope they are farming

[unborn owl]

farming dude.

[sweet delta]

Use your 2 year old fleets dude

[unborn owl]

[bronze crane]

what UR ships are in the build pool?

[remote yarrow]

Nano and NJ, but pulling for them is not adviced

[bronze crane]

ok

[signal pollen]

How am I supposed to get this 😔

[remote yarrow]

Iris libre tech boxes

[signal pollen]

Is there a way for me to get those boxes?

[unborn owl]

i suggest to wait for another UR.

[stark quiver]

shops

[bronze crane]

alr thanks

[cyan sierra]

Medal Shop.

[signal pollen]

Thanks

[unborn owl]

does unzen good with this gun?

[remote yarrow]

If you need AP/are against Med/Heavy

[unborn owl]

okay

[fathom sable]

Where do i move to once i'm done catching up every PR4 ship?

[viscid swift]

you mean who to select next for catchup?

[copper girder]

What happens when you compelte every pr1

[sweet delta]

You get their tech points

There's no achievement or trophy

[copper girder]

How do i get the blueprint thingys

In protoshop

[viscid swift]

might wanna give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#protocore

[copper girder]

Your so nice

[warm flax]

When was pr4 coining added

[remote yarrow]

You should focus on PR4 if you haven't yet

[remote yarrow]

October 2023 iirc? I'm so wrong

[keen sable]

The gold weapon blueprints?

[copper girder]

I made roon prinz rupperchet and im working on agir rn

[remote yarrow]

Oh, get FdG first and coin her
Then Anchorage > Agir > rest of PR4

[viscid swift]

January 2024

[soft raft]

FdG > All of PR4 > At least Plymouth and maybe Brest > Everyone else

[copper girder]

No protocore

[copper girder]

Ill do her after

[remote yarrow]

Wait what happened in October 2023? Did I just pull that out of my ass?

[keen sable]

Convert combat data packs is one way

[stark quiver]

its july 2024

[remote yarrow]

mb

[viscid swift]

Tempesta, W15 dropped, uhhh

[remote yarrow]

ooh it was W15

That's what I remembered October for

[zinc herald]

Any pr7 that should be prioritized or can be used early?

[remote yarrow]

Early in what? Development no, get them to Dev 30

[forest palm]

Napoli maybe? but eh...

[remote yarrow]

And by early game, follow the recommended guide of FdG into PR4

[unborn owl]

it's been 2 days

[keen sable]

Don't they have a discord too? Go complain there

[atomic abyss]

don't expect proper evaluations for PR ships for at least 3 months

DRs even longer

[remote yarrow]

Idk you mean it as "it's been 2 days where's the evaluations" or you were answering the guy "it's been 2 days since it released we don't know if you should focus PR7"

[zinc herald]

Yeah I meant pre dev 30

[atomic abyss]

none tbh

[sweet delta]

Best you can do is Napoli at dev 25

[forest palm]

no research ship has been "good" sub 30, just usable

[remote yarrow]

Yeah probably only Napoli

[atomic abyss]

at that point just use an existing ship

[static dome]

about guild contribution
I know that 15 is normal number (3x con for 5 days)

but how did the 1st one get 22? is it bug or sth

[unborn owl]

should i said both?

[remote yarrow]

No? Cuz first one is pretty dumb to ask since we haven't even got them Dev 1, and the second one seems reasonable

There's simulations but that doesn't mean that much I guess

[eager mulch]

someone got bullied in ectl so hard they left after asking for Bayard tiering

[eager mulch]

I think returning players get something that allows them to donate more or smth

[static dome]

oh, okay

[keen sable]

Never said it wouldn't be ☢️

[eager mulch]

it was funny so it was ok

[remote yarrow]

This thingy?

[eager mulch]

yes thingy

The guild is once again asking for your financial support

[sweet delta]

once again asking for your financial support

[cobalt rapids]

[keen sable]

if you send it to me i will make sure the guild masters get it

[remote yarrow]

Sure, lemme just mail it to you

[dim summit]

did a dumb thing and bought the pr4 voucher pack, insta-fs5 Kitakaze or Mainz (yes i know they're coinable) or convert to protocores and buy Tenrai #3. my b if dumb/obvious question

[remote yarrow]

But those are PR2 and PR3

[viscid swift]

I would rather do the latter

[eager mulch]

one is pr2 even

[cobalt rapids]

tenrai #3

[eager mulch]

[viscid swift]

assuming you have no higher priorities for prototype cores

I presume they mean the 343 PR4 prints that come with the pack

[eager mulch]

rip monies

[remote yarrow]

-15

[dim summit]

meant the 343 bp since pr4 ships are all fs5 already. also yes rip money

[remote yarrow]

Yeah probably convert them to protocore

Use them all on any of the PR4s and just coin the other ships

[ancient kettle]

What everyone’s fleet for researching Admiral Nakhimov? I’m gonna use Soyuz, Belorossiya and Volga. I’m not sure what to use for vanguard

[sweet delta]

3 ships who want experience

[cobalt rapids]

musashi unicorn + 1 sn ship

[remote yarrow]

Well it doesn't matter since she only gets experience from Main ships

[viscid swift]

I'm currently waiting/coping for more new NP or Sardenega main fleets

[remote yarrow]

But probably Marco,Impero and Chkalov once I'm done with Napoli

Actually what do you guys think I should do for Nakhimov's?

[cobalt rapids]

do u guys think bf should be demoted for +13 plane parts prio ?

[viscid swift]

not really

[cobalt rapids]

cesare poltava chkalov

[viscid swift]

getting La-9s in any significant quantity will take a lot of time

[remote yarrow]

[ancient kettle]

Stupid idea, but I’m gonna go for Chkalov after I’m done with Nakhimov

[cobalt rapids]

yes but so does plane parts

[remote yarrow]

And I'm using those 3 for Napoli currently, out of Gold bulins so I just used the Sr ones I got MLB, but does any of the Elites have good tech?

[viscid swift]

on average it should take 3 months for a piece of UR gear, anecdotally thats roughly the same time needed to get 360 T3 plane plates assuming those are your focus

[eager mulch]

idk about you guys but im getting 720 gold plane plates for 6 +13 vit2s

the ryuusei fleet is evolving

[sweet delta]

Bf should be demoted from red border 3, to nonredborder 1 or 2 copies +13

[cobalt rapids]

i know but im thinking sitting on +10 bf might be better till la-9 and instead focus on the other planes till then

[viscid swift]

it'll depend to be honest

[cobalt rapids]

i the short run it might be worse but in the long run ull be on + for gold plates

[viscid swift]

other than Trieste nope

[remote yarrow]

Aight

[undone plover]

Short term CV fleet will not perform as well as BB anyway especially vs light/med
So sitting on the +10 should be fine imo

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ships

[undone plover]

Well I assume enty avp 3rd carrier is early game
After u can get Nano/haku but they are mainly anti heavy so u can +13 the TB first I suppose and then decide after

[viscid swift]

I dunno tbh, there's arguments for it either way, it's one I'm just gonna sleep on for now

[undone plover]

That is fair
It is only 360 plates anyway but every plate counts

[viscid swift]

I think the lynchpin might come down to how much the Bf-109G ends up costing when it's moved to the gear lab in about 6 months

[cobalt rapids]

yes but bb fleet is also not shiny for early aswell
but then again it entirely depends on the timeframe u play anyway
but yea i also would prio conv tb now instead, +13ing stuff knowing theres a direct upgrade as permanent option doesnt sit right with me

[undone plover]

Are you going to stop recommending pr4 focus

[viscid swift]

there's a distinct possibility of that happening once all the ships are coinable and the gear is added to the lab

[long leaf]

i cant see difference between flapjack and tigercat

[cobalt rapids]

tbf cheeky, even before DRs are coinable maybe pr4 focus should be switched

[sweet delta]

I will stop recommending starting pr4 focus before it goes into gear lab

[viscid swift]

maybe, but right now I don't think we're quite at that point yet

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[remote yarrow]

Changes is the gph recommendation meta?

New gph patch

[cobalt rapids]

the future is now old man

[viscid swift]

I'd say, maybe October to December around there is gonna be the cut off point

[undone plover]

U think starting in october can get you a tenrai by end of jan?

[viscid swift]

that's my thinking yes

[sweet delta]

I don't think so

[eager mulch]

hater fr

[cobalt rapids]

i think first UR gear is like 3-4 months
considering no real gear focus + goofy research choices

[wispy pendant]

how fast can one go from zero to w12-4 safe?

we should have some recent data from lil enty server

[sweet delta]

I don't think tenrai before january is the factor for pr4 focus

[viscid swift]

what do you think is then?

[remote yarrow]

Like for a newbie or for someone who knows what to do?

I think about 2 months?

[wispy pendant]

someone who knows, theoretical fastest... with reasonable sleep and bathroom breaks, no auto clickers

[sweet delta]

New players don't have tech for pr7 anyways, so we are left with pr4 ships vs pr5 or pr6 ships. And pr6 gear is mid

[viscid swift]

like a week

[remote yarrow]

A week?

That's fast

[wispy pendant]

that's sweaty as hell, oh my

[eager mulch]

new speedrun category let’s go

[viscid swift]

well, that was on Little Enterprise with that incredibly over powered campaign

[cobalt rapids]

but that is true rn aswell

[remote yarrow]

Scratch to 12-4 safe any%

[sweet delta]

Say a new player can get tenrai from pr4 focus in 3-4 months and from protocore in 3-4 months and from opsi in 4-5 months

You only have much use for 2 tenrai to start

[remote yarrow]

And what about without the overpowered campaign?

[wispy pendant]

pretty sure you can't do a week without buying oil, right?

[undone plover]

I am sensing sushi wants to recommend pr5

[viscid swift]

let me put it like this, with that you could get Unicorn fully retrofitted day 1

[remote yarrow]

That's dumb

[wispy pendant]

lvl 70 day one is also wild

wait, don't they have to be lvl 90 for full retro?

[viscid swift]

yes

[wispy pendant]

day 1 uni retro is wild

[viscid swift]

that event gave me so many XP packs I couldn't even use them all

[wispy pendant]

okay, no gems on oil, no money in shop, only f2p gems on dorm, speed run scratch-w12-4 safe any %

can we full coin even the DRs in PR4 now?

[viscid swift]

no

[remote yarrow]

No

[cobalt rapids]

im also sensing that and im also inclined in that direction aswell
starting tenrai in like a month in research focus and near completing it or completing it a few weeks earlier than tenrai in gearlab doesnt do much but my caveat is that it requires preplanning tbh

[wispy pendant]

k, but the PR golds we can, right?

are we saying new players should pr5 and just coin the ships in pr4, or tenrai too important to farm one copy and buy the second copy in shop with core?

[viscid swift]

I don't know if I fully agree to be honest

[undone plover]

Tenrai in gear lab might need the t3 ords which will be a pain

[wispy pendant]

are we guessing Nakhimov is good all by herself, or does she really need that NP slow to be good?

[viscid swift]

a lot of it is gonna come down to what stuff get added in the next 6 months and how much PR4 gear is gonna cost in the lab ultimately which is a lot of unkown

[cobalt rapids]

if ure saving for example from october ull have enough just as u would have researched it in december-jan, but that time was spent researching in 5 instead which boosts ur overall progression

[wispy pendant]

are people using more than 3 tenrai's at a time? I'm guessing we're going to want 4+ of the new rocket fighter?

[cobalt rapids]

ppl arent using more than 2 tenrais at a time usually unless its their own cooking

[sweet delta]

I use them for farming

[undone plover]

Yeah I think short term pr4 is good but overall it will delay your shipyard progression

[wispy pendant]

I'm impressed lol

do you have 5-6 ply guns also?

[viscid swift]

5 is the next logical starter season since it has catchup abd the PRs should get coining the same time 4 is retired but I don't know, 7 I think is stronger overall

[sweet delta]

Short term means during your 3rd and 4th month, not your first 4 months

[cobalt rapids]

7 is tough on reqs
5 has catchup so u can get harbin out fast

[sweet delta]

How much empery tech is in guild shop?

[viscid swift]

yeah but 5 isn't exactly the easiest either

[wispy pendant]

enough i think

[cobalt rapids]

enough for harbin with just mlb no wait u need maybe 2-3 120s*

[sweet delta]

My number of ply guns is neither 5 nor 6

[remote yarrow]

I have 2

[eager mulch]

1 for 1 for ?

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[worldly pewter]

ngl 5 is hard in terms of tech

[echo adder]

Best place i can farm these on?

[worldly pewter]

imo unless they do something about the situation going roon fdg pr4 should not be changed

[viscid swift]

either way, the real loser of the change is Hakuryu

[crimson glacier]

what change

[cobalt rapids]

the shipyard prio of pr1> fdg rush / ancho still applies
in the meantime harbin tech can be farmed from guild shop

[eager mulch]

idk if that fleet can even clear 9-1

it’s just shit

[echo adder]

Bro its a bad fleet, i just need them to lvl 100 so i can unlock champagne

[sweet delta]

Maybe with a sprinkle of good non-HMS ships it would be better

[eager mulch]

you can’t even get them to lv 100

[sweet delta]

Nothing happens at level 100

[echo adder]

Wdym? Ill raise their stars when they reach the max

[cobalt rapids]

u need lv70 for max stars not 100

100 is just for fate sim

[echo adder]

Dont u get like a small % for reaching lvl 100?

[viscid swift]

no

[atomic abyss]

nope

[sweet delta]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[echo adder]

F

Then to lvl 70, what map for xp?

[eager mulch]

no

[cobalt rapids]

dorm/books

[echo adder]

Used all my books

[cobalt rapids]

the former option then

[echo adder]

Dorm is alright

[sweet delta]

1. Don't use a full fleet of low level ships
2. Don't farm below chapter 9
3. Don't farm below chapter 11 if you have 11
4. Don't farm below chapter 12 if you have 12
5. Don't rush champagne

[worldly pewter]

TBH before investing into anything try to look from a global perspective

[eager mulch]

what

[keen sable]

Execute Vicky and 12+. I have faith in unicorn

[echo adder]

Bruh why not rush champagne, only worth PR3 for me

[eager mulch]

how

[echo adder]

Cuz i already have ships that replace every other PR3

[silk sphinx]

Champs is mostly just for tech nowadays

[keen sable]

You forgot rule #1 if 11 push to 12

[undone plover]

Any good Bb can replace champagne as well

[echo adder]

Im in 12-2 rn campaign is boring

[cobalt rapids]

dont need to push further

[eager mulch]

I think champy is the most replaceable tbh

[echo adder]

Ikr, i would skip pr3 but i need the quests

[worldly pewter]

push opsi ?

[keen sable]

Good then this should be easy for you

[echo adder]

Idk my fleets are a mess and i need to get time to organize fleets and gears

[eager mulch]

you don’t need champy

[echo adder]

Who do i need in pr3 then

[keen sable]

Easy solution. Organize less trash

[undone plover]

Get odin
Use fdg + 2 other kms ships

[cobalt rapids]

i believe u should be lvling ur good ships instead

[echo adder]

Alright

[eager mulch]

pr missions aren’t going anywhere, yet

[echo adder]

Like Musashi, Shinano and FDG, i know

[cobalt rapids]

exactly

[echo adder]

Just wanted to get rid of the newcoming

[eager mulch]

time to live with the fact that you’re a new player

[echo adder]

Uhhhhh if i max out my Musashi, do i run it with Shinano and who?

[viscid swift]

depends on the content

[echo adder]

Ive been playing for years and stopping from time to time

[cobalt rapids]

depends on content, top ships can be run anywhere

[echo adder]

Idk thinking about, clearing a lvl faster

[eager mulch]

no unicorn in that ss

[echo adder]

Its 105

[viscid swift]

for just farming? don't worry about clear times, use whatever needs levels

[cobalt rapids]

most of the game is lvling ships, and then using the lvled ships for the othe 5% part of the game

[echo adder]

Bro 😭

[keen sable]

You went over this yesterday. The answer is champy because everyone else sucks

[echo adder]

Yeah

Maybe Odin

For KMS fleet

[keen sable]

But fdg uvh biskii exist

[echo adder]

Is azuma good?

[viscid swift]

What

[cobalt rapids]

why not cheshy

[keen sable]

They don't want anyone who is obsolete or powercrept

[viscid swift]

Champaign is powercrept though

[cobalt rapids]

how do u give em the news about with 3 ur bbs in dock

[echo adder]

Lmao

Should i get the other UR in pr2

[viscid swift]

You have read the research guide yes?

[cobalt rapids]

no since ur still coining fdg

[echo adder]

Whats that

[remote yarrow]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[echo adder]

2 more lvls, been coining since 2022 i think

[remote yarrow]

You've been what

[viscid swift]

impossible

[remote yarrow]

My guy has been getting 2 BPs a day for the past 2 years

[viscid swift]

FDG only got coining in 2023

[cobalt rapids]

longer than fdgs been coinable

[night pumice]

for research ships is it better to spend a couple thousand coins a day, or just grab the two free coin-up

[viscid swift]

if they're ships you plan to use the former

[echo adder]

What

[echo adder]

I stop playing every 3 months

Missed like, most of the birthdays

[viscid swift]

like I said, FDG only got the ability to be coined in January 2023

[cobalt rapids]

coining fdg means buying her blueprints with coins, thats what we meant

[echo adder]

I see

I meant like, building her since 2022

Didnt know about coining

[echo adder]

Using 10

[worldly pewter]

just follow this standard recommendation
try to get anchorage then the rest of the pr4

[echo adder]

Alright

[meager gyro]

should i use avp?

[sweet delta]

Do whatever they told you in the thread

[meager gyro]

wow, really great help

[tame jungle]

No problem man

[signal pollen]

should I do map coordinator or coordinate loggers corrosion 4 and lower?

[cobalt rapids]

r3+ including are worth doing

[signal pollen]

Is it still worth doing 2 and 1?

[eager mulch]

they make R1s?

[cobalt rapids]

2 arent worth, r1 doesnt exist yea

[thin haven]

[noble tulip]

do we know the akashi spawnrate on r2 ?

[undone plover]

i think sushi said it was 0

[noble tulip]

so truly useless then

[zealous cave]

how many ryuuseis do i want

[cobalt rapids]

like 3

[zealous cave]

ok

[fathom sable]

Correct

[wide marsh]

What 140/150 means if I use catch ups in research (pr1 ships)?

[cobalt rapids]

it means x prints/ max till finished catchup but only DRs have 150 prints, PR have a shared pool of 300 and theres no DR in season 1

[wispy pendant]

no DRs in pr1 tho, so not sure

[tired stream]

are there any rewards for clearing challenge mode again if you already have all the rewards from the last time it was here?

[cobalt rapids]

some coins

[thin haven]

Common ships

[sinful elk]

Chat these gears work good on her right

[thin haven]

I wonder how much longer it can hold? You know what l mean

[sinful elk]

[stark quiver]

secondary isnt good

[wispy pendant]

use the mk6, omg

[cobalt rapids]

aux gun is fine for poverty
main gun depends on content

[wispy pendant]

why does ECTL list FDG over the mk6? probably confusing the new players

[tired condor]

how significant is the marriage buff

[sinful elk]

Alsace is shelling?

[cobalt rapids]

6% extra base stats

[wispy pendant]

yes... but also preload, so more yess

[noble tulip]

very important for pvp, marginal for pve

[remote yarrow]

Just oath your waifus

[sharp socket]

tactical oath is not recommended for f2p

[tired condor]

the mk6 is better than the other gold gun?

[thin haven]

Is this good?

[stark quiver]

no

[slow fox]

MobNano

[wispy pendant]

oath for stats, don't know why we recommend waifu reasons in gameplay help channel... we going to start recommending skins to use also?

[stark quiver]

if oath for stats its all or nothing, because it affects timing

[cobalt rapids]

because its not affordable to tactical oath without being a spender

[ancient kettle]

For poverty? I’d say it is

[sharp socket]

we recommend oath for waifu as f2p because the stat gain is minimal for something that costs money

[tired condor]

replace this gun with the mk6?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[wispy pendant]

then we should say oath everyone or no one

[cobalt rapids]

do u have every1 oathed usui

[remote yarrow]

Why does it need to be one or the other

[wispy pendant]

ofc i do

[sharp socket]

well u see not everyone has 5000+ usd

[slow fox]

holy

[tired condor]

i thought u wanted alsace to fire more shells

[slender heart]

What's the hardcap on dock again?

[thin haven]

Actually it carries me up to 11 chapters

[ancient kettle]

Hawt dang

[cobalt rapids]

3030

[slender heart]

Including the guild ones?

Thank you

[thin haven]

Could you recommend some gear for her kinda struggle on 12 chapters

[cobalt rapids]

then ig u can recommend them to oath every1
just attach the cost to it so they know if its affordable

[ancient kettle]

I can send you the link for the recommended gear from the EN ship gear guide

[thin haven]

That would appreciate

[sharp socket]

to oath every ship is about 5000+ usd, though prices may vary depending on your country tax if it affects the price

[ancient kettle]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cv?ship=shinano

[thin haven]

Ty

[ancient kettle]

No problem

[slow fox]

I think it's obvious that the oathing priority should be descending eHP order

[cobalt rapids]

agreed

[slow fox]

Unless they're a DD.

[silk sphinx]

I think some of the slowest ships can be oathed, like musashi wont be affecting much

Cv it gets touchy though

[cobalt rapids]

i think u can oath any1 unless u wanna copy homeworks

[wispy pendant]

K... it looks a lot worse than izumo gun in the damage... why would i use this? Just a little bit faster?

[cobalt rapids]

yes its quite faster and on heavy its not much worse

[echo adder]

Which should i use for BB's (NJ, FDG, NJ, Brunhilde)

[stark quiver]

what are you trying to do?

[soft raft]

406 mk6

[sweet delta]

Time to buy some 406/50 blueprints (season III) from prototype shop

[summer sable]

Does opsi xp count for PR

[soft raft]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

• Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
• Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
• Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.

[worldly pewter]

can u show ur fighters ?

[echo adder]

Kill things

[stark quiver]

throw on anything i guess, without context, that question means nothing

[elfin hollow]

What gear should I use for Haku if she is below dev30

[soft raft]

you dont use her before she's D30

[elfin hollow]

Im using her to level up

[cobalt rapids]

same as d30, u dont rly use 3rd slot for db ever

[echo adder]

Bro i mean, whats the highest damage for operation siren

[cobalt rapids]

in this game most stuff is situational

[stark quiver]

just throw on mk6 then doesnt really matter of youre only farming

[cobalt rapids]

u have to adapt ur gear to what ure facing, theres no highest damage in opsi generally

[faint jacinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845072379327021058/1261318801014919218/Screenshot_20240712-215018.jpg?ex=6692862c&is=669134ac&hm=60af5864c202f2c1c5966ae78809bb08718719d94a5be813fa7c63fe1eae6d94&
any good stuff here?

[echo adder]

Bro this requires too much braincells

[cobalt rapids]

then throw mk6 on everything like said

[stark quiver]

rudder

[cobalt rapids]

rudder always good

[inner delta]

maybe its time to write up sometime more general kited toward people that doesnt need any specific thing, then if fail then ask again

[faint jacinth]

[cobalt rapids]

just disclaiming that stuff is situational as always

[soft raft]

huh what
That's just a AP CA gun

[elfin hollow]

Wait did i confuse it with a different gun let me check

[remote yarrow]

Probably with Nep gun

[cobalt rapids]

yea with nepgun

[elfin hollow]

Yea i did

[soft raft]

Also 155 exists for intercepting

[elfin hollow]

This one i meant

[short wagon]

bruh whys it so hard to get steering and higih standard fire control blueprints

[silver lintel]

Eventually u gonna swim on hundreds of them

[grizzled sundial]

Is U version of a ship generally better than its counterpart ?

[sharp socket]

its just an alternate version of the ship

[wispy pendant]

about the same, also, muse version doesn't give fleet tech, so lower priority to even work on, imo

[eager mulch]

it can be better or worse than their regular variant because it is an entirely different ship

saying “they’re about the same” isn’t true

[vale steppe]

If I am gonna get exp for Bayard, I gotta figure out which is a good French tank. I can get Mogador and Le Terrible to do damage. I got plenty of exp chips so levels aren’t a worry

[rain vine]

dont really need much of tank if you farm 12-1

[eager mulch]

12-1 or 12-4 with unikai if your ships are dying but I’d recommend to not use mog

[sweet delta]

i don't think that mogador will do much damage

[vale steppe]

If Mogador won’t do a lot, who can?

[eager mulch]

someone who’s mlb like triomphant right there

[calm cradle]

No? Because she's not LBd at all?

[sweet delta]

jeanne will do damage and make everyone into tanks

[eager mulch]

jeanne good

[wispy pendant]

max limit break ships... don't use ships before they are max limit broken

[vale steppe]

I have enough spec cores to max LB a UR ship. 17K

[wispy pendant]

that said, you don't need to max limit break mogador to level her up, she just won't do as well without being max limit broken

nah, save your UR for better ships imo

[vale steppe]

Guess Mogador will just only be for the voice lines

[wispy pendant]

do you have alsace, NJ, shinano and any other URs already done? do you know vanguard is rerunning next week

[vale steppe]

I have enough to max LB one of those. Wonder which one first

[viscid swift]

Zwei

[eager mulch]

Bismarck zwei easily

[vale steppe]

Alright then

I’m guess Bismarck Zwei is that powerful?

[rain vine]

yes

[fossil shard]

Because she’s not mlb? Or is she not a damage dd in the first place?

[rain vine]

not mlb

[keen sable]

not particularly but your condition was only one so only one. it would be much better if you had 2 or 3 or 4 or 9

[silver lintel]

Bz>>>>all

[faint jacinth]

oh ye guys how is peter strasser?

[echo adder]

Whats the name of the new green haired ship girl, its for research purposes

[echo adder]

My favorite ship ong

[cobalt rapids]

admiral nahkimov

shes a reasearch ship yea

[keen sable]

Nahki

[faint cloud]

nah

[echo adder]

Alot of researching to do then

[viscid swift]

she's mediocre

[faint jacinth]

she look like a kurumi 😭

[cobalt rapids]

usually 2-6 months to fully dev depending on ur proj prios

[mystic glen]

Which is the best to get Parliament or Sardegna pulls in building atm? Light/heavy/special

Tryna meet PR7 reqs

[echo adder]

Idk, im still in Pr4 😭

[cobalt rapids]

stick to 1 light build / day since its refunded outside event banners

[faint jacinth]

meanwhile im stuck at pr4 hakuryuu bp farming 😭

[mystic glen]

I see

[viscid swift]

I reccomend giving that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#rn

[mystic glen]

Thx fam!

[clever sun]

Is this plane good?

[mystic glen]

I run em if I got em. I've pulled like 8 of em. q.q

[clever sun]

Im building saratoga gear

[grizzled sundial]

So if i max lv break these ships i may have enough for the highest tech point requirement for PR ship ?

[viscid swift]

it quite literally has no bombs so it doesn't do surface damage

[clever sun]

So is it kind of bad?

[rain vine]

its good for getting purple plates

[viscid swift]

if you max limit break then and get Marco Polo yes

[clever sun]

How to know what gear is good or bad? Is there a sign?

[keen sable]

math?

[viscid swift]

refer to a gear guide, read sam's in #bot-spam /equip

[clever sun]

What fp do?

[keen sable]

increases firepower damage?

[clever sun]

The guide doesnt inclue all purple equip so it is a little hard for me to get some good equipment in that guide

[keen sable]

general rule of thumb is if you don't have anything on the guide then you use the T2 version of what IS on the guide

[clever sun]

Ok

[viscid swift]

if you don't have any of the equips listed including the stuff at the very bottom
you're basically just left picking between garbage so at that point it doesn't matter too much what you use, it's just a very short term stop gap

[clever sun]

Should i level up T2 version of those equipment?

[keen sable]

as little as possible yes

[clever sun]

What stat that BB, CV, CL, DD need? Can you list it for me? Ill try to rate those equipment that dont have in guide

[keen sable]

weapons are almost universally not rated on how much stat they give

[clever sun]

Oh, also is the game tier list can be trusted?

[vale spindle]

in game gear recommendations are very hit or miss

[viscid swift]

mostly miss

[vale spindle]

if you are very new then just equip whatever you have, you can use equipment guides later

[keen sable]

The Tn in the game is to compare between versions of the same gear. It is not for comparing between different gear.

[eager mulch]

just believe in yourself

[clever sun]

Thanks guys

[merry leaf]

What troops y’all be using for Napoli

[viscid swift]

Pola, Trento, Bolzano

[merry leaf]

@viscid swift what maps u use to grind boss <3

[viscid swift]

12-1

[merry leaf]

okie ty smooch

[echo adder]

Gonna get Hakuryuu after anchorage

[lofty blaze]

so is vanguard and indomitable a must-pull?

[hollow gust]

well vanguard is hella op, no rerason not to get her

[lofty blaze]

aight bet

hb indomitable?

[merry leaf]

@viscid swift last question boss, but what do u put for ur backline? i got myself unicorn as my backline but shes always getting all the mvp exp

[viscid swift]

I don't bother with MvP control

[merry leaf]

<3 preciate it

[glossy spear]

Should Erebus replace Pennsylvania as my flagship?

[hollow gust]

lol no

[glossy spear]

Ok

[ancient kettle]

The 406/46 Mk.6 is the best one out of all of these for HE wise, AP would be the Triple 410 and 460, but the 460 is quite slow to reload…

[echo adder]

How do i know which bullet for which ship?

[hollow gust]

depending on enemy boss armor tye

to be safe just slap MK6 on everything early game

[ancient kettle]

As much as my wife Vanguard is in there, Zwei is just that powerful, so do Bismarck Zwei first.

[ancient kettle]

Click into the gun and it’ll show you

[echo adder]

I see

[echo adder]

I meant like, when to use AP or when HE

[ancient kettle]

Oh, that. Use it on all BBs, BCs, and BBVs

[rapid grail]

what's the Arbiter armor for this month

[viscid swift]

gear is situationally dependent
for BBs you use good HE guns against light armor and good AP guns against medium and heavy armor(which you don't have)

[remote yarrow]

I don't think you are understanding his question

[ancient kettle]

Yeah I’m probably not…

[echo adder]

Amazing

[rapid grail]

ah, today is jellyfish. Light armor

[forest palm]

you have a very basic understanding, not enough to articulate it properly

[ancient kettle]

Oh… I got it now lmao, uh use AP for medium and heavy armor, HE for light armor enemies

[echo adder]

😘

[ancient kettle]

Sorry didn’t understand it for a few seconds 😂😂

[forest palm]

it's fine they're some long time players that will call something like Aurora anti-light, when that's not the case

[echo adder]

No need for unnecessary beef

[remote yarrow]

I'll fight Taz

[stark quiver]

theres never beef in gph

[remote yarrow]

Yeah that's not allowed

[echo adder]

Mb

[sonic fossil]

why's w14 so hard?

[stone sluice]

I plan using Pamiat Merkuria to grind exp for Napoli… is her retrofit worth the coins or can I farm 12-4 no retrofit without any trouble?

[stark quiver]

devs made it like that, requires actaul fleet building

[eager mulch]

retrofit for collection %

[forest palm]

Pam is good tech

[sonic fossil]

14-1. I can't get to the boss without actually loosing the mob fleet 💀

[remote yarrow]

Are you trying to full clear?

[sonic fossil]

trying for 100%

[viscid swift]

start a thread and post your dock

[remote yarrow]

So not getting the "Kill all enemies" thingy cuz that might be hard on Lethal

[stone sluice]

Pamiat merkuria retrofit is around 30k coins, right?

[sonic fossil]

k

[sonic fossil]

i honestly think that's impossible

[forest palm]

here's all the worthwhile RN, and SN vanguards to raise for 120 tech

[eager mulch]

[remote yarrow]

It isn't, I did it

[glossy spear]

What chapter is best to get purple blueprints?

[remote yarrow]

But lowering the threat makes it way easier

[remote yarrow]

Like retrofit ones?

[glossy spear]

Yeah

[eager mulch]

smo0tie how do they lower the threat without 100% first?

[zinc turret]

Guild shop

[glossy spear]

Oh

[remote yarrow]

They were saying killing all enemies before lethal is impossible tho

[eager mulch]

its not, i did it

[remote yarrow]

Don't

Retrofit blueprints in medal shop are really expensive

[eager mulch]

guild shop is the acceptable shop source

[soft raft]

you mean medal shop
and no

[glossy spear]

Guild shop also has purple blueprints for me

[remote yarrow]

Wait I'm fucking EN

[eager mulch]

im sorry

[remote yarrow]

nvm

[cobalt rapids]

hi sorry

[zinc turret]

Wut ? I literally say guild shoo

[glossy spear]

It cost 50

[eager mulch]

you get purple retrofit bps from the highest hard stage you can do that give the type you want

[soft raft]

huh they do?
I've never seen purple BPs in guild shop tf

[eager mulch]

they exist

[soft raft]

wild
then sure yeah that's not a bad idea

[glossy spear]

Yeah but it’s only two which is unfortunate

[eager mulch]

guild shop bps are rng but are not expensive, medal shop bps are guarateed but are a scam

[zinc turret]

After u buy everything u need u can reset the shop again for another 50 guild coin

[sonic fossil]

i had to redo the fleet

[glossy spear]

Ok but after that I just have to farm hard?

[eager mulch]

I don’t think I’ve seen them either

[zinc turret]

Yea

[agile sky]

Is 12-1 the actual best stage to farm exp for research? Or is it just recommended because its easier?

[eager mulch]

both

[remote yarrow]

In any case you can get Retrofit blueprints from hardmode, but it's better to do World/Chapter 3 and above for the chance of getting Gold ones and it also depends on which one you do, X-1 gives DD ones, X-2 gives CA/CL, X-3 BB, and X-4 CV

[eager mulch]

I infected smo0tie with the EN

[soft raft]

12-1/12-4 take your pick
doesnt really matter too much besides 12-1 being easier and better oil/XP ratio

[glossy spear]

Got it thanks

[remote yarrow]

Me no engrish me no understando

[sonic fossil]

w14

[glossy spear]

Also what should be the main things I should be buying from the guild shop other than blueprints?

[eager mulch]

gold plates

[remote yarrow]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#guild

[agile sky]

so like the chpts beyond arent really a huge benefit to farm?

[eager mulch]

less xp/oil

[soft raft]

On paper they give more XP and gold but in reality they are more difficult to drag low lvl shitters through, have worse oil efficency, and take longer to clear

[eager mulch]

have an amagi chan nomming an amagi chan while being nommed by an amagi chan

[remote yarrow]

Self vore

[zinc turret]

They farm w12 cuz w12 is ez , for mob i can farm it with 1 unicorn + 5 random ship included lv 70 ship

[eager mulch]

i can farm it with 6 random ship

[remote yarrow]

Professional

[zinc turret]

Well if u have cross fleet sure i guess

[remote yarrow]

Not really, 12-1 safe is easy enough for you to not need a healer if all of them are like 90+ without needing to rely on crossfleets

[eager mulch]

more like mog keeps stealing mvp from my np main fleet because i didnt level mog because i took a break from the game

[worldly pewter]

14-1 is like ch12 difficulty

[eager mulch]

cap

[soft raft]

Bullshit lmfao

[remote yarrow]

And that's a lie

[rain vine]

depends on gear and what ships youre using

[worldly pewter]

the difficulty spike in the ch14 is weird

[eager mulch]

14-1 is definitely harder than 12

[novel solstice]

14-1 certainly seemed a lot harder than 12 to me. I can't imagine doing 14-1 without a healer, whereas I run random rubbish through 12-1 to level it up (usually starting at lvl 100, though; if a ship is lvl 70 I dump xp books on her)

[worldly pewter]

i could kill all the escorts in 14-1 very easily then 14-2 was a little bit challenging then afterward it straight impossible

[sonic fossil]

🧢

[pale niche]

Finish PR6 or switch focus to PR7? (PR4 and PR5 already finished)

[stark quiver]

doing it easily and calling it easier than 12 is different

[rain vine]

did you not have a hedgehog and asw aux plane for 14-3?

[forest palm]

who do you have left?

[worldly pewter]

no there is someone who did it without a single healer

[soft raft]

he hasnt got there yet lol

[eager mulch]

but has he cleared 15-4 yet

[worldly pewter]

i was speaking about killing all escorts

[remote yarrow]

Mainly +10 purple gear, tho Bearn does have a Wyvern

[eager mulch]

smh napoli grinder

[pale niche]

Only Shimanto is d30 in PR6

[forest palm]

what's the rest look like

[remote yarrow]

She caught my eye more than Nakhimov

[eager mulch]

nyakhimov~

[worldly pewter]

it is just the difficuly spike is very weird that is all i wanted to convey

[eager mulch]

ok but you said "14-1 is definitely harder than 12" which is just flat out wrong

[stark quiver]

thats right

turtle u good bro?

[rain vine]

14-1 is not the same as world 12

[eager mulch]

wait thats what i said

[remote yarrow]

But you said you liked Cruisers and CVs are cringe oh wrong game

[soft raft]

I think you meant "as difficult as 12"
Is the EN'ing affecting you too?

[eager mulch]

ok but you said "14-1 is like ch12 difficulty" which is just flat out wrong

[remote yarrow]

Are we all wrong?

[worldly pewter]

i m just bad at explaining bro just forget it

[forest palm]

honestly see more reason to just finish out PR6 than start 7

[soft raft]

^

[eager mulch]

i have 4053 pr in my ranked games so far in my atlanta

[clever sun]

Unique argument is always good right?

[sonic fossil]

w14 is actually painful wdym

[soft raft]

Not always
you have to consider the price of the unique aug, how good the aug is, and if you're gonna use the ship the aug belongs to or not

[worldly pewter]

u aren't prepared

[clever sun]

Ok

[soft raft]

only like Hood, Taihou, Saratoga, and Kawakaze's (and prob like 1-2 others) I would say are very worth the price

[worldly pewter]

if u think that 14-1 is painful then what will u say about 14-4

if u know how w14 works u should breeze though 14-1 then u experience the true taste of it later

[pale niche]

What's the coin hardcap?

[remote yarrow]

600k

[clever sun]

Thanks

[eager mulch]

smo0tie its really fun to sit broadside to a BB and not get punished in atlanta hull

[slender heart]

Does collab ships counts towards fleet power?

[south sequoia]

[soft raft]

they should
tbh Fleet power doesnt really mean much outside of flexing anyways

[slender heart]

Ok, thank you

[echo adder]

Is Helena still very good?

[stark quiver]

yes, irrelevent for campaign w14 and up, very good for bosses

[echo adder]

Nice

[unique lantern]

is this really still better than the super heavy shell on alsace? even with the preload? its event rerun is coming up and im already thinking where to put it

[echo adder]

Bro when will that shipgirl comeback?

[soft raft]

It's basically a better HSFCR
And most often White shell is paired with HSFCR

[unique lantern]

it just came, prolly in a year

[sonic fossil]

In 2 years max

[echo adder]

Noooooo

[soft raft]

Alsace? in like 2 years
Vanguard? Next week

[cobalt rapids]

Hpfcr still affects preloaders and bb auxes depend on content/timing

[remote yarrow]

Which one Alsace? Like in 2 years at minimum

[echo adder]

Should i try getting vanguard? I dont have it

[remote yarrow]

That aux is coming back next week

[eager mulch]

Helena is very good and that’s not my bias

[unique lantern]

so the preload does not count as "first main gun volley"?

[south sequoia]

Nope

[soft raft]

Yes
Gacha URs always worth going for

Esp when we also gonna get build tickets on reruns

[unique lantern]

nice, then my alsace gonna be spicy

[echo adder]

Nice

[south sequoia]

Helena is a commanders best friend and worst enemy

[eager mulch]

wife

[south sequoia]

She'll always be relevant since no other ship has as big as an amplifier as her, you just gotta live with that 60% chance.

[eager mulch]

90% of gamblers quit before they hit their 4th radar scan in a row

[remote yarrow]

~~Helena Unique Augment for 100% ~~

[unique lantern]

oh ya, i just got my alsace 125 and now need to level fdg, but i dont think i can get through w13 stages with the main fleet im leveling.
this wont survive 13-3, will it? 😂

[south sequoia]

Frankly if they added a ship with a guaranteed proc like her with that big of a debuff we might as well delete the bosses

[soft raft]

not when that FdG isnt D30 that's for sure

[cobalt rapids]

4 star fdg is deadweight

[unique lantern]

thought so, well i dont have any other main fleet ships which need leveling

[viscid swift]

~~ RN 406mm HE says high~~

[unique lantern]

also i feel like my hood is going to be dead weight once i have odin :v

[south sequoia]

Ehh

Its more like the other way around

[soft raft]

Eh I'd rather use Hood instead of taking the time to raise Odin

[south sequoia]

Wait no