gameplay-help

[calm rose]

There isnt a rush to complete cdc, no point in trying to control mvp. Esp for vanguard

[whole crypt]

just don't bother with MVP control for vanguard XP

[sharp socket]

im not doing mvp control, the map just dies before the vanguard kills things

[calm rose]

Its fine? They dont need to kill stuff to get exp

[viscid swift]

Also maybe consider dropping Unicorn for another ship that needs levels

[sharp socket]

they dont?

[calm rose]

As long as theyre in the fleet participating in the fight. They gain exp. No matter the damage they do

[sharp socket]

i was worried theyll die because theyre 15 levels under enemy level thats why unicorn is there

but i also have volga there who im leveling

if i dont need uni then ill put in avp to level too and ill have an almost full IB fleet in there

[viscid swift]

I reiterate, w12 on safe is not rhat difficult

[sharp socket]

i dont want my ships to die cause they lose morale when dying

[viscid swift]

Who said anything about corpse dragging

[calm rose]

If youre only fighting mob, chances are they wont die. Keep your low level one in the protected slot

[sharp socket]

i guess eugen roon and z23 arent that squishy, even if 15 levels under

[fickle parcel]

I want to level super awful frontlines to 120 using story mode. I mean like Beagle, Z21, Aoba type ships. Once they're level 100, which maps should I throw them in without them dying?

[viscid swift]

W12

[sharp socket]

12-1

[fickle parcel]

With a strong backline and the entire frontline built only for survival, it can full clear 12-1 by itself on auto?

[keen sable]

if you're timing out you are doing something very wrong

[viscid swift]

You should be using defensive auxes on the vanguards anyway and I reiterate

W12 on safe is really easy, don't overestimate how much you need to farm it

[sharp socket]

it was referring to wichita meta

[silver lintel]

12-1 is easy with good gear, you can 1fleet with 6 shitters

[fickle parcel]

@viscid swift Thanks a bunch!

[fickle parcel]

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but can they go right at 100 or should I push them to 105, etc... first?

[eager mulch]

how long until datamine

[stark quiver]

100 is doable

[calm rose]

Theyre always different level, mine ranges from 75 to 105 most of the time

[fickle parcel]

tyty everyone!

[viscid swift]

For reference this is what I used to farm w12 a while back

It did 12-4 exclusively and never once suffered a loss

[fickle parcel]

Wow, you really can just yolo it.

[viscid swift]

And no one during farming was ever pushed past level 100

[fickle parcel]

Thank you for the reference sheet!

[keen sable]

i've done 12-4 with better and died. you won't even know you died unless you relgiously check morale

[viscid swift]

Oh trust me I check regularly

[calm rose]

Doodoo ship + doodoo gear will get you killed though. Decent gears are needed

[stark quiver]

i just run unicorn + 5 shitters with half gear

[eager mulch]

[viscid swift]

3-4 hours off still at least

[eager mulch]

ogey

[forest palm]

#gameplay-help message

[sharp socket]

i think i reached my limit with michi, 400-600k depending on how helena feels, still a 3pan most of the time, this was a great improvement and taste of endgame content

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[native folio]

what are the first things to spend gems on? another shipgirl slot in the dorm?

[soft raft]

3rd slot in dorm and 2nd floor (Esp if you grind alot)
Then afterwards it's full send into dock space and nothing else

[native folio]

i saw some video saying not to get the 2nd floor

[soft raft]

99% of the time you're better off not trusting AL YT content

[spring bolt]

get them all if you are not f2p

[whole crypt]

best dorm for F2P is 3 slots + 2/F

[wind hazel]

well yes, context wise if you only play the game for 1hr everyday, getting 2nd floor is a waste

[forest palm]

I'm just curious if PR7 will make CN Community raise their pitchforks

[whole crypt]

context wise if you only play game for 1hr everyday you probably don't need to bother with dorm slots at all

[wind hazel]

also true

[whole crypt]

they're probably preparing to pounce just waiting for datamine

[eager mulch]

YouTube may have told you to not buy the second floor but I am not YouTube and I’m telling you second floor is a good purchase

[silk sphinx]

Why would it?

[slow fox]

Because it has a 180% ship

[candid meteor]

who?

[forest palm]

I think just about every(?) PR season CN has been the disgruntled community when a ship doesn't meet their expectations

[wind hazel]

180% what, ehp?

[slow fox]

180% Portlands

[wind hazel]

[slow fox]

[livid thunder]

Hi ! have Pr7 ship been added to the game or are they just announced and the will be here soon

[eager mulch]

napoli is known to be a tanky mfer

[wind hazel]

after maintenance today

[candid meteor]

it iwll be out tomorrow

[silk sphinx]

They’ll be there tomorrow

[forest palm]

in about 15 hrs

[livid thunder]

Okay thanks

[jaunty vault]

taz are you accounting for extended maint

[whole crypt]

they have been somewhat on point depending
PRake in particular

[signal pollen]

How do i speed run affinity? Also if I don’t care about affinity i can keep making them work with no other demerit right?

[whole crypt]

0 morale also halves XP

[frank pulsar]

demerit is that you lose stats and gain half exp

[silk sphinx]

Well it gets really annoying in addition to the half exp when farming

[soft raft]

and there's that warning popup as well

[silk sphinx]

Imagine having a pop up at every single fight

[signal pollen]

Misery. Okay, thanks

[silk sphinx]

Just the affinity buff, it’s the other stuff that’s bad

[whole crypt]

speed running affinity is kind of pointless unless your ship's already maxed otherwise

[signal pollen]

I don’t even know now to recover it fast either 😔 do I wait 4 hours to do a few runs?

[candid meteor]

mlb guam or shimi

[silk sphinx]

Well affinity rushing; stick them in second floor, then run with them continuously; if you can, make them mvp

[soft raft]

Guam

[whole crypt]

do you mean morale or affinity, they're not the same thing

[stark quiver]

guam probably

[viscid swift]

do you have Vanguard?

[signal pollen]

Morale

[rapid grail]

how 2 get xp for pr7 botes

[candid meteor]

no

[rapid grail]

or at least prepare for CDC grind

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity#Morale

[soft raft]

oh right Vanguard rerun soon

[viscid swift]

what UR BBs do you have right now?

[candid meteor]

everyone except vanguard and musashi

[soft raft]

You take 3 applicable ships + 3 other ships and go grind your ass off in W12 as per usual with research ships

[whole crypt]

wait for game to go up
take 3 ships that work for the XP req
grind ch12

[silk sphinx]

Chicharon is not a new player I think they’re trolling

[rapid grail]

Musashi deadge nowadays, just get Vanguard and you're good to go for BB fleet content

[whole crypt]

but I must fit every BB for cross fleet because reasons

[soft raft]

Musashi still good for Anti-heavy
She's mainly held back by a lack of a good HE option that can sync with Helena

[silk sphinx]

Not what I expected from a pvper also

[signal pollen]

Is vanguard worth pulling

[soft raft]

very worth

[rapid grail]

yes. Buffs for BB salvos and entire fleet is too hard to ignore

[signal pollen]

Ok

[polar lion]

Is it wurf to keep farming event for the gold plates? I haven't got them all yet coz been slaccing

[sweet delta]

I did

[silk sphinx]

It’s pretty oil cheap

[rapid grail]

just get gold plates and then slack after wards. no need to get the rest* if you only want the gold plates

[sweet delta]

Very high points per oil

[polar lion]

Ayy sureee. Gonna keep farming till I get the last plates milestone then

[silk sphinx]

I did runs in coalition 1:1, this is one of the highest points per oil for any event

Also low morale expenditure rate since you’re running three fleets

I ran continuously without dorm and it was fine

[whole crypt]

you can get like 18pt/oil if you low cost normal

hard on coalition there's basically no point to not full fleet

[polar lion]

Yea me just full fleet hard to keep on continuing my journey to get em all grills to 120 for fleece tech

[whole crypt]

oilcap for hard is 25, like any 2 MLB ships is already going to be a significant portion of that if not over

[forest palm]

do you remember which PR ships the CN community went off on?

[whole crypt]

Agir

her dmgred used to be torp specific

Harbin got her EVA tuned, can't remember what else they upped for her

[slow fox]

Harbin, too. She was not tanky enough, then they gave her a smokescreen.

[silk sphinx]

Oh lol I thought it was higher. Welp

[viscid swift]

they also went off on Hakuryu and Drake's Fate Sim

[viscid swift]

she got her smokescreen, originally she didn't have it

[whole crypt]

Drake was rambled on both release and FS

I didn't pay attention for Hakuryuu

[stark quiver]

whats wrong with haku fs?

[forest palm]

was it CN, or EN that wasn't happy about Izumo?

[whole crypt]

don't think there was anything for 6 though

[viscid swift]

there was not

[viscid swift]

not her fate sim, when she first released

[keen sable]

drake must be sortied with hms ships was just an awful idea

[whole crypt]

didn't Izumo exist before EN

[forest palm]

yes, but I think FS was around for EN

[whole crypt]

well EN would have gotten it late so it'll be way past any complain window

[forest palm]

that is true

[blissful hamlet]

Is datamine up noe

[whole crypt]

no

[blissful hamlet]

[forest palm]

in like 2 ~ 3 hours

[rapid grail]

just wait pepega

[forest palm]

if AL CN doesn't explode

[slow fox]

Which is it Taz, 15 or 2

[whole crypt]

well the main issue with Izumo was her barrage was lacklustre, her burn meme was way overblown anyway

[rapid grail]

im here to eat popcorn for pr7

[whole crypt]

the FS fixed her barrage somewhat but it still was kind of ehhh

[tidal meteor]

First rocket fighter that can intercept

[forest palm]

I remember people would intentionally leave Izumo FS4 which was hilarious

[whole crypt]

the FS barrage is actually better so I don't see the point

[forest palm]

I think the argument for the time was the shielding thing, it's been ages for me

[whole crypt]

next thing you know they let it intercept but with shit guns

[whole crypt]

if anything FS barrage should work better against shields

[forest palm]

[tidal meteor]

C'Mon, 4×23mm autocannon shouldn't be bad

[forest palm]

can't wait for the Enterprise buff 👏

[vale spindle]

the argument was after fs you lose pierce on half the barrage permanently

so you trade ur unshield performance for shield performance

personally im on the yes u should fs5 side

[forest palm]

ok ya, that's exactly what I was thinking of, and I kind of found it silly cause FS5 was just better

[whole crypt]

you lose pierce but it does have splash so it's not a 1 to 1

[sweet delta]

It doesn't matter nowadays

[whole crypt]

well it's Izumo, it stopped mattering 6 years ago

[vale spindle]

matters now with 100% barrage

[whole crypt]

still not worth that much unless you're trying to recommend for PR1 voucher

[sweet delta]

She's weak in mobs with or without fs5, so the pierce debate doesn't matter

[vale spindle]

[whole crypt]

by the time you pump Izumo out you'll probably have a better BB

[forest palm]

the debate only existed when the scope of content wasn't past world 11

[sweet delta]

I saw that

[whole crypt]

mebot

[forest palm]

was there any controversy with PR2

[slow fox]

You guys are delusional smh

[uneven cave]

FdG bad

[vale spindle]

6 months after pr2 -> pr3 dropped
*for en

[whole crypt]

I didn't pay attention to CN forums for PR2 but off the top of my head not much was talked about

[forest palm]

oh, right EN got ram rod with that

it was honestly better that way with the way research used to work back then

[hushed dawn]

How do you get Mikasa's gun?

[whole crypt]

by getting Mikasa

[hushed dawn]

Damn, no way of getting it elsewhere?

[plain saffron]

That's why her gun ask for codes when you scrap them

[sweet delta]

It does?

[vale spindle]

[plain saffron]

[vale spindle]

i saw that special n

[dusk maple]

what is mikasa gun?

[vale spindle]

It does?

[forest palm]

must be a new thing

[sweet delta]

No you didñt

[plain saffron]

What's the name again

[whole crypt]

it does not

[wind hazel]

smh

[plain saffron]

Damn literally unplayable

[forest palm]

here I thought I was having a memory hole

[whole crypt]

now let me go buy a new copy

[blissful hamlet]

isn't that always the case for unique gear

[whole crypt]

no

[stark quiver]

so whats the gun called

[forest palm]

the Russian Gun has a code on it, ye?

[blissful hamlet]

gangut gun for example

[sweet delta]

/wiki twin 305ms

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_305mm_(41st_Year_Type)

[stark quiver]

oh that one

[tidal meteor]

Roomba barbette

[whole crypt]

thank goodness this month BB is my pool for this month's medal

[stark quiver]

looks like i scrapped it

[forest palm]

what's the tech with this thing?

[viscid swift]

PvP

[dusk maple]

no tech

[whole crypt]

it's the single fastest IJN gun

[hushed dawn]

Need the gun for PvP.

[forest palm]

PvP 🚮

[whole crypt]

just use 356 or 410

[blissful hamlet]

you don't need it for pvp unless you follow quyet guide

[forest palm]

I cbf to do PvP, imma be real

[whole crypt]

it's not fast enough to outweigh not having any damage on the gun at all

[hushed dawn]

I'm following the one in the pins. Says that the Mikasa gun is great for more aggressive comps. And I like being aggressive.

[blissful hamlet]

blue gun ijn gun is better for pvp cuz it's HE and can inflict burn

[loud rover]

huh the FBA 19s also ask for a code regardless of rarity

[blissful hamlet]

pretty sure it's not recommended as the best equip

[whole crypt]

just use 356 kai

it's green recc alongside 356kai on PvP guide

[steady beacon]

It's a fine option
But Idk whether you should necessarily feel obliged to get Mikasa just for it

[blissful hamlet]

huh wait mikasa gun is on the sheet now lmao

[loud rover]

something special about her gun that needs a code to disassemble?

[steady beacon]

Has been for a while now, seren
Where have you been lol

[hushed dawn]

Yeah kek.

[blissful hamlet]

smh shamelessly copying quyet fleet again

[steady beacon]

Borgar literally gave us the equipped GoT comp like
A week after Alsace dropped

[whole crypt]

it's honestly not worth the trouble

[blissful hamlet]

I need to consult the higher ups for this

[steady beacon]

Serenity on his way to demand Yakuza be TEX again

[loud rover]

wait you straight up cant see gangut's gun when you disassemble from the gear screen in depot. whaaa

[whole crypt]

all gear that needs confirmation cannot be picked for mass scrap

[loud rover]

then why can i pick my mikasa gun 0-0

[whole crypt]

because Mikasa gun doesn't need confirmation

[signal fog]

are there any maintenance later ?

[loud rover]

better not accidentally scrap that then. pure chance i had a spare lv1 mikasa around cause i'm too stingy to use a bulin to mlb her

[whole crypt]

I scrapped it just to test, was BB pool on my server this month for medal anyway

[remote yarrow]

Datamine waiting room

[tidal meteor]

[loud rover]

oh my server has BB this month too. still missing massachusetts from there tho

[native folio]

shoul di wait for an expansion licesnse for the dorm? or just expand it with 100decor tokens

[hollow gust]

u buy expansion with decor tokens

[whole crypt]

the only way to get the license is with the tokens

[plain saffron]

Yes, but somehow mikasa gun doesn't

[whole crypt]

did it just exist before the scrap confirmation thing was added

[signal fog]

no wonder all my commissions are 8 hrs

[eager mulch]

[plain saffron]

It replaces the type name in

[native folio]

whats the priority for things tto do in the dorm with the decor tokens? expand it unttil you can get second floor?

[plain saffron]

Same checking, different thing to type

[whole crypt]

yeh but what was the first gear to need name entry

[plain saffron]

[whole crypt]

because Mikasa first launch was Dec 17

i.e. it predates even PR1 gear

[forest palm]

the locking mechanism is a lot newer than you'd think

that or it wasn't as noticably prevelant

[nocturne shoal]

what level do purple SB2C Helldiver designs drop?

[soft raft]

Dont bother farming campaign for gear

[worldly pewter]

yes

[soft raft]

There's only 2 stages it drops from anyways

[nocturne shoal]

[plain saffron]

I mean even if it was newer someone would expect them to put it on mikasa gun anyway

[remote yarrow]

3 or 4 slots + 2nd floor for F2P players

[light trail]

how significant is agir at dev25 to agir at dev30 to agir at fs5? does she only get +luck stat from fs?

[plain saffron]

I can't find exact dates from patch notes

[soft raft]

She gets the rest of her damage and can take advantadge of fleet tech at D30 and she currently does not have a FS5

[plain saffron]

Ouh predl up

[sharp socket]

they can dont have an fs5?

[light trail]

oh so the fate sim number for bp is just like a placeholder? also i didnt realize fleet tech bonuses require mlb

im sure fleet tech makes a hell of a difference

[remote yarrow]

Change the display

[soft raft]

Research ships dont come with a FS5 on day one
It takes roughly a year for the PRs to get theirs and it takes ??? time for DRs to get theirs, there's no set pattern as to when and/or who

[plain saffron]

Yeah it so you can save for fs in the future

[soft raft]

yeah that's just a placeholder so people can save up and the devs dont have to keep going back in to adjust as Fate Sims come out

[remote yarrow]

But you should use those BPs for Haku really since she needs Dev 30 to work and actually has an Fs5

[sweet delta]

11.7s, 65 Avi, 4 rockets with 225 damage at +10 and 80/140/80 armor and pretty standard splash/apread

[plain saffron]

Bro wtf

[soft raft]

ah what Anti-med? Boooooo

[sweet delta]

No interception

[patent pivot]

what ._.

[plain saffron]

@inland shoal wake up

[patent pivot]

actually gives me a gross idea for new antimed comp

[light trail]

are these the bonuses agir would get? how significant are these bonuses?

[sweet delta]

So best anti med and anti heavy rockets by far

[remote yarrow]

📣 Thorin

[soft raft]

iirc CBs take CA, CB, and BM tech
And outside of EVA and FP, none of them are urgent prios to grind

[plain saffron]

dd is aa gun seaplanes

[blissful hamlet]

is datamine up?? are you guys talking about datamine now??

[tidal meteor]

Bruh

[whole crypt]

you mean slot 3 for seaplane? or what

[blissful hamlet]

where's the start of the discussion

[plain saffron]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQ3T7EHtAomrCU74pWYk1q5zmUjH7IUAOuHFObcQWwZetcH3fFvZo-LSIGNU6vVWYAAubOsKlYbeI9N/pubhtml

[blissful hamlet]

:OMEGOD:

[stark quiver]

cant read

[viscid swift]

Google translate that shit

[stark quiver]

good idea

[fervent hearth]

[native folio]

is it worth to retrofit javelin? or better to save materials to retrofit another DD

[forest palm]

someone tell me if Daisen's Gun has potential

[whole crypt]

just learn moonrunes

[sharp socket]

should i bother getting ayanami to 120 if im just using her for torp statstick

[wind hazel]

you'd want to retrofit one of the starter DD for rookie mission

[whole crypt]

nakhimov is a 60% slower

[viscid swift]

huh, Nahkimov has a 60% slow

[soft raft]

[eager mulch]

[sweet delta]

Freezer

[blissful hamlet]

yes since you also need her retrofit for the rookie mission

[kind needle]

Nep gun worth to craft for ply or no?

[viscid swift]

eyo she also has a freeze

[soft raft]

Nahkimov slow + Chkalov FS5 slow = 100% slow 🧠

[blissful hamlet]

implacable killer

[whole crypt]

when airstrike debuff AA and EVA of 1 enemy, damage buff 6s priority target

[soft raft]

It's pretty whatever in general
nowadays it's a Boomer equipment and not worth going out of your way to obtain

[viscid swift]

When launching an air attack, it will reduce the air defense and mobility attributes of an enemy unit by 5%, and increase the damage it receives by 5%, lasting for 6 seconds. This effect will take effect first on elite targets (humanoid units); it will be affected by other Northern Alliance Enemy units affected by the deceleration effect of camp character skills will enter the [Vulnerability] state. When an enemy unit in the [Vulnerability] state is subject to [Impact], the unit's speed will become 0 for 2.5 seconds; when the enemy unit is in the [Vulnerability] state, its speed will change to 0. Enemy unit's critical hit damage increased by 40.0%

[tidal meteor]

Actually anti heavy too

[light trail]

oh i didnt see you could scroll down

[kind needle]

So, BelGun Kai better for her or should I gib her my only seattle gun?

[plain saffron]

is this right, the equip already ingame?

[slow fox]

I was lying I swear (noskills)

[soft raft]

155 Kai
Seattle gun is also in the same realm as Nep gun

[blissful hamlet]

huh nakhimov have slow or freeze

[viscid swift]

both

[plain saffron]

ouh nvm typo

[kind needle]

I mean I alr have seattle gun equipped on my helena, so 155 good option for me?

[whole crypt]

if enemy slowed by another NP ship nakhimov's slow turns to stop, also takes a debuff that takes higher crit

[blissful hamlet]

nakhimov op

[whole crypt]

nakhimov is slow with conditional stop

[wind hazel]

free implacable?

[blissful hamlet]

soyuz, chkalov, nakhimov will be the meta

[tidal meteor]

Though still less so than Ryusei; 720 dmg against heavy for La-9 vs 1014 for Ryuseu

[whole crypt]

didn't Kronshtadt also slow

[plain saffron]

new seaplane is equippable to all except IX

[whole crypt]

I'm hesitant with Chkalov for boss

[plain saffron]

and have intercept

[patent pivot]

put her with soy

[viscid swift]

wait so it goes in the fighter slot or?

[plain saffron]

still seaplane type

[blissful hamlet]

is it a fighter?

[tidal meteor]

Helldiver is 739 on avg for comparison

[calm rose]

Which slot does it goes into

[plain saffron]

just no hulltype restrictions

[blissful hamlet]

huh so which slot it wil fit?

[tidal meteor]

Yoooo
Hwah Jah and Chen Hai finally viable

[plain saffron]

SEAPLANE slot

[eager mulch]

so still seaplane

[sharp socket]

whats a seaplane

[blissful hamlet]

fusou good now

[sonic arch]

Does anyone have a link to datamine?

[kind needle]

The one that IJN BBV’s equip

[plain saffron]

wait it's 3 plane

[tidal meteor]

Is there Tiny Tim though?

[plain saffron]

so that's how they gonna give the DD 3 planes

[remote yarrow]

3

[kind needle]

DDV’s incoming

[whole crypt]

I don't see what Bayard's role is supposed to be based on those stats and skills

[sonic arch]

It's a bearcat so yes should have two tiny tim per plane

[eager mulch]

is halford as good as she is in wows?

[stark quiver]

@sonic arch

[plain saffron]

bearcat skills
it's in sheet now

[sonic arch]

Thanks a lot!

[viscid swift]

she looks exactly like she does in WoWs, confused and more gimmicky than anything else

[blissful hamlet]

is that the skill of the plane?

who's other destroyer have plane slot

[plain saffron]

so the dd can have AA 1mgm but 3 plane

[eager mulch]

so we’re getting black next with smoke and radar scan right?

[viscid swift]

Shirakami Fubuki

[plain saffron]

shirakami fubuki

[tidal meteor]

LET'S FUCKIING GOOOOO

[whole crypt]

napoli 1 CA mount 2 CL mounts

[eager mulch]

napoli is a secondary cruiser in wows after all

[blissful hamlet]

is this the floatplane?

[calm rose]

Sounds about right. Shes a focused secondary ship afterall

[tidal meteor]

Yes

[viscid swift]

like I said, seccondaries are her bread and butter

[blissful hamlet]

lmao

[whole crypt]

I don't remember is 7.3k HP high for rainbow CA

[blissful hamlet]

op plane on shit slot

[eager mulch]

and being an absolute cockroach to kill

[night pumice]

if I've got 230 cubes right now could I hit 400 by the time the UR rerun hits its last day

[eager mulch]

no

[whole crypt]

rerun has tickets

[plain saffron]

The dd could be good?

[soft raft]

You only have a week for reruns

[whole crypt]

lol Napoli also has special seconds

[ember totem]

Nakhimov makes every slowing NP into bisko2?

[calm rose]

Ontop of the 2 cl guns?

[eager mulch]

170 cubes in 2 weeks doesn’t sound feasible to me unless you use the power of 💳

[night pumice]

oh. I don't like my chances then with this UR, might just skip and wait for the one after this

[eternal moth]

Wait, bearcat has tiny tims?

[slow fox]

extremely

[soft raft]

Also you'd need 170 cubes to reach pity which would take just over a month

[kind needle]

Wait what loadout does Nakhimov have?

[whole crypt]

within 40units distance Napoli ignores shields

[viscid swift]

I've been saying that for the past few days...

[eager mulch]

Same as implac

[whole crypt]

3F/3v/3T

[remote yarrow]

Don't skip pray that you get her in 44 free pulls and then do 3 daily pulls atleast

[night pumice]

do we know how good the PR7 ships are yet

[eager mulch]

but with 140% eff in all slots

[blissful hamlet]

is the torps plane a converging?

[whole crypt]

140 is good

[tidal meteor]

Absolut balans strikes again

[kind needle]

So, Fighter, Versatile, TB?

[remote yarrow]

Datamine is out, but on paper is different than in game

[eternal moth]

140 is real good.

[eager mulch]

Ye

[kind needle]

How about the tech points needed?

[eager mulch]

literally same kit as implac but with 10% more eff in slots 2 and 3

[sharp socket]

that sounds very powerful

[remote yarrow]

Implac powercrept

[forest palm]

you literally get 44 free pulls...

[whole crypt]

lolwot @ napoli's smoke skill

[eternal moth]

Nak has an enemy slow. Oh no

[kind needle]

Smells TEX

[slow fox]

WHHHHHHHHHH

[viscid swift]

full-throttle smoke, she can stay concealed even when moving at full speed

looks like they translates that into AL

[remote yarrow]

It looks interesting to say the least

[calm rose]

isit exhaust smoke?

[whole crypt]

when in her own special smoke secondaries +100% eff

[forest palm]

wow Napoli lookin more useful than Hinden already

[kind needle]

Dev 20 Ply Usable on Arbiter fights?

[calm rose]

Napoli looks crack tbh

[eager mulch]

DR ancho, I called it

[whole crypt]

different use

[viscid swift]

is this the part where I say I told everyone so

[eternal moth]

Gotta love Google Translate: "During the battle, the player's forehead equipped special sidearm weapon level 2 (one attack per second, skill level based on form)"

[forest palm]

as a support only, she's pretty flimsy, and does no damage mind you

[forest palm]

listen you know I value utility

[loud rover]

napoli=forehead ship

[calm rose]

All the wows gamers literally predicted the same thing.

[rapid grail]

how's Halford

[night pumice]

doesn't do anything for my shit luck 👍

[tidal meteor]

Holy crap the damage and modifiers on the Tiny Tim beyond my wildest dreams

[kind needle]

Any leaks what ships needed for Nakhimov’s CDC?

[calm rose]

Its free..

[kind needle]

The only NP Backlines I have are Soyuz and Volga💀

[whole crypt]

lol Daisen wtf a heal skill that doesn't work outside of ch13+

[blissful hamlet]

how's the torps bomber

[loud rover]

more than me i only have gangut

[blissful hamlet]

how does that works? it doesn't works when there's a plane?

[ember totem]

wait what is this conditional heal?

[remote yarrow]

That's a pretty defeatist attitude you got there

[sharp socket]

where r u guys seeing this btw

[whole crypt]

it works when her recon plane gets shot down

[remote yarrow]

Datamine

[soft raft]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQ3T7EHtAomrCU74pWYk1q5zmUjH7IUAOuHFObcQWwZetcH3fFvZo-LSIGNU6vVWYAAubOsKlYbeI9N/pubhtml#

[whole crypt]

and your planes never get shot down outside of ch13+

[sharp socket]

sankyu

[blissful hamlet]

how's the torpedo bomber?

[remote yarrow]

What's a tiny tim btw

[silver lintel]

Nakhimov stop only works with soyuz lmao copium

[night pumice]

I'm currently on a gacha pity streak, so yeah I might be a bit defeatist
anyhow, is that magnetic quad torp from the current event any good

[hushed dawn]

Synced vs De-synced Kearsarge against Wichita META

[blissful hamlet]

should work with fs5 chkalov too

[whole crypt]

in case anyone isn't already aware outside of PvP the only places where your planes will meet any AA at all is ch13+

[calm rose]

Its an upgrade to the regular quad mag

[ember totem]

Also Kron has a slow

[remote yarrow]

Best mag torp in the game, about a 16~30% dmg increase from Gold Quad Mag

[eternal moth]

What do you mean?

[night pumice]

oh okay

[blissful hamlet]

isn't it only her cross fleet

[silver lintel]

Need slow from other np ships@eternal moth

[remote yarrow]

Something about if target is already slowed by a NP ship she stops it for 2.5s

[ember totem]

now that you mentioned it, probably yeah

[verbal mulch]

BiS torp for auto

[viscid swift]

okay, so I did some number crunching on the new 410mm
it's an okay AP barrage gun for Musashi
it's 2 seconds slower base than the 457 and before ammo modifiers are taken into account it's about 11% behind for raw damage

[soft raft]

yup it is
40% slow

[night pumice]

ah. I'll throw it onto my mobbing destroyer then I guess, dunno if it should go there or to my boss fleet

[eternal moth]

Oh, I think I get it now. She has a slow, but if that unit is already slowed by an NP ship, it acts as a stop instead

[remote yarrow]

Now my question is Napoli or Nakhimov first

[calm rose]

U got like 0 bp doesnt matter

[remote yarrow]

Yeah but to focus on getting bps first

[whole crypt]

Halford if slot3 plane, on odd airstrike smoke, on even airstrike heal self + remove burn
if AA gun +AA/TRP and 12% dmgred, 15s barrage

[eternal moth]

Nak IMO. We don't lack for tanks as it is

[verbal mulch]

Btw, Mistral AI "next" is free to use and can perfectly translate chinese to english

[remote yarrow]

Yeah true

[ember totem]

not like both are gonna be ready anytime soon

[calm rose]

Oh you meant for research

[slow fox]

Napoli first. It's always good to develop tanks imo.

[whole crypt]

"perfectly"

[calm rose]

Yea i would go for napoli first too

[whole crypt]

just learn moonrunes

[slow fox]

Always to research in order of descending eHP of coruse

[verbal mulch]

I gave it "战斗开始时，自身航空、命中属性提高15.0%，暴击率提高20.0%；自身发动空袭时，使用额外编队进行一次特殊航空攻击Lv.10（威力依据技能等级），在场的所有敌方单位1.5秒后受到【冲击】，【冲击】状态下的敌方单位自身航速降低60%，持续5秒" and it gave me "When battle begins, the unit's aviation and accuracy attributes increase by 15.0%, and its critical hit rate increases by 20.0%. When the unit launches an airstrike, it performs an additional special airstrike (Level 10 power based on skill level). All enemy units on the field will be affected by "Shock" 1.5 seconds later. Units in a "Shock" state will have their aviation speed reduced by 60% for 5 seconds."

[tired condor]

wat this do

[verbal mulch]

Seems decent to me

[whole crypt]

expand playground slots

[tired condor]

idk what playground slots are maybe i havent done event enough

[whole crypt]

you gave up on new best torp and gold plates?

[remote yarrow]

It's for your ships to get a +10 morale recovery boost

[drifting wedge]

Hey, I've spent around 300 cubes and didn't get U31 (elite 2,5% pull) from the banner. I got plenty of the rare one while they got less % pull.
Am I very unlucky there or is there a known issue ?

[eager mulch]

unlucky

[tired condor]

its the best torp?

[remote yarrow]

Best auto torp

[whole crypt]

the quad mag at 8000 points is the new best torp launcher

[tired condor]

i got the torp already but i dont see where to use the playground slot expander

[whole crypt]

have you tried looking at the event screen

[remote yarrow]

Well, on the playground itself on the event screen

it's on the bottom left iirc

[rapid grail]

how's Halford

[tired condor]

o its useless got it

[whole crypt]

not that it matters now, event's ending anyway

it's useless if you're not grinding enough, yeh

[whole crypt]

gimmicky

so 410ModA is 410 but AP

[forest palm]

[wary robin]

So, what exact VIT-2 changes, just armor modifiers, and nothing about pattern?

[whole crypt]

is it just me or does the FR look slow

[eternal moth]

Bayard seems pretty mid to me. Am I missing something?

[viscid swift]

^

[verbal mulch]

So I'm getting that Napoli is basically Anchorage but with better damage

[eager mulch]

looks like it, my predictions were right

[blissful hamlet]

how's the torps bomber

[whole crypt]

how does Musashi ModA sound going with triple AP on other BBs now

[eternal moth]

And even more health

[eager mulch]

not converging

[remote yarrow]

Do we know how much Tech points are needed to develop?

[rapid grail]

also a tad slower than it or even the 457mm... Not like something I'd look out for
at least its a new toy to play with

[remote yarrow]

Infinite

[whole crypt]

well if it's faster than Izumo gun it might time better for Musashi?

[stark quiver]

infinite points nice

[ember totem]

he's thinking in terms of pvp

[viscid swift]

I haven't checked but the timings kinda sound scuffed

[whole crypt]

no I'm thinking BB fleet

because Musashi is naturally slow and Izumo gun is even slower

[viscid swift]

I think it's pretty much just a mobbing gun for Musashi in later campaign stages

[eager mulch]

they gave bayard fake adrenaline rush?

[ember totem]

oh yeah i know that's what you were thinking in respect of was mentioning the other guy's perspective

yeah it does sound like a late campaign mob gun for her

[whole crypt]

so what's changed about VIT-2's mode

[viscid swift]

I'd rather run other UR BBs for a boss fleet still as is

[viscid swift]

from what I see, you lose 2 torps for barely 1 second faster reload base

[rapid grail]

not just pvp, yes it looks nice on pve

[eager mulch]

holy dogshit

[viscid swift]

torps do the same damage for both individually

[plain saffron]

What else needed

[eager mulch]

so it’s bad huh

[stark quiver]

made it more shit smh

[eager mulch]

Sara pics pls

[viscid swift]

do we have XP and tech requirements?

[whole crypt]

do we even need the new pasta guns?

[plain saffron]

Wtf

[verbal mulch]

Devastated the Daisen gun isn't HE

[eternal moth]

No, that's good; it gives more options for Sushi

[eager mulch]

you will use purple twin 410 and you will like it

[stark quiver]

back to confetti gun

[patent pivot]

who uses sushi in anything but mobs?

[light trail]

this is kala ideas's tech bonus and she's a CB, is this what agir would get or is it more? i thought faction wasnt necessary for fleet tech so idk

[eager mulch]

sushi floof

[forest palm]

would rather grab an MK7, and Apple Sauce if I needed a BB for Anti Light

[calm rose]

Is 40 units far?

[eternal moth]

Agir should get the exact same

[plain saffron]

哈尔福德
白鹰阵营科技点数达到<color=#92fc63>950</color>

大山
重樱阵营科技点数达到<color=#92fc63>950</color>

那不勒斯
撒丁帝国阵营科技点数达到<color=#92fc63>300</color>、北方联合阵营科技点数达到<color=#92fc63>200</color>

纳希莫夫
"北方联合阵营科技点数达到<color=#92fc63>300</color>、撒丁帝国阵营科技点数达到<color=#92fc63>200</color>

贝亚德
自由鸢尾阵营科技点数达到<color=#92fc63>230</color>

[eager mulch]

longer than average AA range iirc?

[eternal moth]

So many moonrunes

[light trail]

that doesnt seem very substantial, or am i missing something? does that mean she's pretty much great starting from dev25? (of course not counting the 15% efficiency missing)

[plain saffron]

There's dev30 bonus

[calm rose]

Oh so napoli basically is gonna be ignoring shield almost all of the time

[whole crypt]

faction has CB tech as well, they all add up

[remote yarrow]

And how much tech points do we need to develop?

[eager mulch]

unless your auto decides to hug the left

[stark quiver]

free ducktail

[plain saffron]

I Just sent

Idk cn so someone translate

[whole crypt]

Halford 950 USS
Daisen 950 IJN
Napoli 300 pasta 200 NP
Nakhimov 300 vodka 200 pasta
Bayard 230 Iris

[calm rose]

with how frequent my ply dash infront of michita to meet her early demise, i dont think i need to worry about that

[remote yarrow]

oh I thought those were the tech bonuses mb

[stark quiver]

how to check points for factions

[forest palm]

wow PR7 is infitely better than PR6's disappointment

[slow fox]

slander

[whole crypt]

PR6 was great

[viscid swift]

okay, some more number crunching, without taking into account the extra AVI
the new UR rocket plane still looses to the HVAR against light but blows the Bf-109G out of the water for medium armor
it's also almost a full secconds slower base than the 2 SR rocket fighters

[plain saffron]

Outside the 4 factions you can't really check

[whole crypt]

at least I still use Kearsarge

[eternal moth]

Is Bayard really underwhelming, or am I missing something?

[slow fox]

PR6 has Hindenburg, too smh

[remote yarrow]

I see

[stark quiver]

time to manually add i guess

[whole crypt]

Bayard looks really meh

[dusk maple]

4 major ones you can see, the game will tell you for the minor ones at the ship development screen

[remote yarrow]

Should I just skip PR6 and go to PR7? Kear is 18 and Hinden 15
21/50 for Gun

[whole crypt]

just have 30k total faction tech and you know you won't be behind

[fervent hearth]

ez clap

[verbal mulch]

She's like a modern Neptune. Which is super meh

[stark quiver]

brest singlehandedly carried my iris points

[plain saffron]

Just wait and see on the ship itself

[whole crypt]

Alsace singlehandedly carry all needed Iris tech

[viscid swift]

oh yeah, do we have tech bonses for the new ships yet?

[stark quiver]

i have a good amount of 0 pasta tech

[whole crypt]

if you have Brest you already have more than enough for Bayard

[spring bolt]

nothing important, bayard cl eva+1 at 120

[whole crypt]

any CN complaining about Bayard yet

[calm rose]

Im truely not sure. I used kear way more than expected

[whole crypt]

oh Bayard is great then

[forest palm]

[whole crypt]

tech fodder is still better than not even being tech fodder

[spring bolt]

they are kinda complaining about how little improvement daisen gun brings to musa, no riot, yet

[south sequoia]

Huh, details are here already?

[viscid swift]

good 120 tech does a lot for a ship

[south sequoia]

Cn is dropping these patches quicker than I thought

[whole crypt]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQ3T7EHtAomrCU74pWYk1q5zmUjH7IUAOuHFObcQWwZetcH3fFvZo-LSIGNU6vVWYAAubOsKlYbeI9N/pubhtml#

[eager mulch]

nice virus

[forest palm]

so what is the CN community generally saying about the season?

[whole crypt]

Bayard as a ship is dogshit but good tech is good

[south sequoia]

Compared to twin 410 kai?

[spring bolt]

not much as patch dropped much earlier than expected

[viscid swift]

couldn't even give her MBRB

[viscid swift]

it's basically just a budget 457 for her to use in late campiagn stages

[whole crypt]

no talk about Bayard at all?

[viscid swift]

it's nothing spectacular but I'll take it

[eager mulch]

they gave her off brand AR instead

[south sequoia]

This was an hour or 2 faster than regular datamine patches

[eternal moth]

It's an IJN 457, which is important for sushi

[spring bolt]

compared to izumo gun, as daisen gun on musa is basically same speed as izumo gun + autoloader

[south sequoia]

Ohh

Wait, is daisen gun AP??

Bruh

[soft raft]

yeah

[viscid swift]

called that once again

[south sequoia]

I thought we were gonna finally get something for her for light armor

[eager mulch]

You are gonna use purple twin 410 and you will like it

[silk helm]

let's go cheeky

[verbal mulch]

Doesn't Halford's first skill trigger too fast to be relevant for BBs? Seems like it would only be good with a fleet using 3 457s. Though I could just be not understanding it right

[tidal meteor]

[viscid swift]

or just not use an IJN gun or better yet not use Musashi at all

[south sequoia]

Let me guess this straight, nakhimov has a psuedo freeze as long as the enemy is slowed by another NP ship?

[worn lake]

*yawn

[viscid swift]

anyway, La-9 probably not the HVAR replacement everyone was hoping for
it's a Bf-109G replacement ironically enough

[spring bolt]

tbh this patch is way too early, i am expecting a second patch

[verbal mulch]

That's how I understand it

[eager mulch]

Kear anti heavy fighter

[south sequoia]

Probably, we did get an agir and haku patch during pr4 before the update even officially launched right?

[viscid swift]

that was only after rioting from CN

and so far things seem pretty calm from them

[verbal mulch]

What got patched?

[remote yarrow]

Non colored name Pin

[spring bolt]

that was too early, i don't remember it lol

[whole crypt]

Cleo was lazy to dig the original link

[eager mulch]

white names rise up!

[plain saffron]

Way too early it I'm panicking

[south sequoia]

What original link

[remote yarrow]

#gameplay-help message Here is Nagami's message btw

[whole crypt]

that

[viscid swift]

oh shit, Napoli is our first heavy armor CA
kinda expected that

[remote yarrow]

Se he can edit I guess

[forest palm]

as I said Napoli lookin more useful than Hinden

[plain saffron]

So which ship need to see barrages

[spring bolt]

not yet, just saying there might be a second patch as there are 4 more hours till CN maint ends

[remote yarrow]

Take your time Nagami

[whole crypt]

who knows they maybe early preloaded to let CN see stats and check the pitchforks

[south sequoia]

What the fuck

[wary robin]

Nakhimov ofc

[south sequoia]

Napoli increases your entire fleets EVASION RATE by 40%?

[forest palm]

that is probably it

[verbal mulch]

Napoli seems to be the best ship of the season. She's super chonky

[whole crypt]

that's just smoke

[calm rose]

Btw napoli doesnt have a barrage except for her AoA? Im not sure if google translate is correct

[stark quiver]

the fuck?

[south sequoia]

Yeah but still, thats insane for a smokescreen

[stark quiver]

oh its the smoke? damn

[whole crypt]

it's higher than older smokes I think? but yeh

it's still just smoke

[south sequoia]

So looking like a rainbow anchorage

[viscid swift]

I mean, Harbin and I believe anchorage give 35% EVAsion rate

[remote yarrow]

I'm guessing Nagami did an oopsie

[forest palm]

Nakhimov seems just as appealing tbh

[whole crypt]

Anchorage doesn't really do damage, Napoli is going to do damage as well

[south sequoia]

^^

[viscid swift]

no, Anchroage is 40% as well

[forest palm]

I like how we've not talked about the Horse just looked at every other ship

[remote yarrow]

Hmmm replace Anchorage or have a 3rd UR CV

[viscid swift]

what is there to say about Daisen, she's an SR BB with barrages

[eternal moth]

It looks like she has 2 AoAs

[whole crypt]

I already looked at the horse, nothing of note besides a heal that only works in 3 chapters in the game

[forest palm]

she that generic?

[remote yarrow]

🐴

[viscid swift]

pretty much

[south sequoia]

Mmmm, napoli 1st skill... im confused
Is it like sandys augment?

[forest palm]

lol

[soft raft]

the PR BB curse continues womp womp

[whole crypt]

Daisen has a heal, if that's special enough for you, but it only works in 3 chapters

[verbal mulch]

I do like how Napoli's smoke isn't dependant on TRP launches

[eager mulch]

hort

[stark quiver]

which day of research does cdc1 come

[forest palm]

how does the heal function?

[whole crypt]

by her recon plane being shot down

[calm rose]

Oh yea, her sec gun triggers one too

[forest palm]

ew....brotha ew~

[south sequoia]

So basically, napoli is chonkier anchorage with damage?

[viscid swift]

so 12, 13, and 15 is where it's practically applicable

[south sequoia]

[whole crypt]

at least she doesn't launch it before AA ships spawn like Shangri-La

[verbal mulch]

This is how it translated for me "When the main gun of the unit's equipped weapon finishes reloading, it summons a recon plane that marks the farthest enemy unit. For 10 seconds, the unit deals 20.0% more damage to that enemy. If the recon plane is shot down, it immediately restores 8.0% durability to all allied vanguard fleet members. If the recon plane is shot down twice in one battle, it additionally restores 5% of the maximum durability of the allied vanguard fleet member with the lowest durability percentage. This effect can only be triggered once per battle."

[wary robin]

Ghost gun instead of barrage, but she has 2 AoA procing from mg and ghost gun respectively (ghost gun proc torpedo AoA)

[viscid swift]

basically
as I called

[eternal moth]

So technically it looks like Napoli has 3 secondary guns?

[whole crypt]

2 secondary mounts + special secondary

[calm rose]

2 cl 1 special it seems

[viscid swift]

not technically she does

[forest palm]

ya that's just ah goofy

what's the deal with Halford exactly, shit moved too fast for me

[verbal mulch]

Use an AI language model. Google Translate is terrible at moonrunes

[calm rose]

Do we have details on how strong the special secondary are?

[south sequoia]

70% efficiency is a bit sad but to be expected since it is secondaries

[whole crypt]

2 mounts good though

[eternal moth]

10% self buff, and a heal if the plane is shot down. Not terrible, but not good

[eager mulch]

+100% when in smoke

[calm rose]

It gets buffed by her smoke

[whole crypt]

+100% in her own smoke yeh

[south sequoia]

Huh
So it becomes 170%??

[wary robin]

2 AoA for Napoli is also good thing

[south sequoia]

Oh what

Thats kind of insane

[forest palm]

curious what the paper test for Napoli's damage looks like

[stark quiver]

napoli pog

[eternal moth]

It doesn't work for her ghost gun, but it does for the CL mounts

[eager mulch]

it’s almost like secondaries is what she’s known for and cheeky has been yapping about this for a week now

[south sequoia]

Looks like we finally have another user of plygun that actually deals damage

[whole crypt]

looks like we need another copy of plymouth gun

[south sequoia]

Well top damage

We do have other plygun users who do deal damage just not rainbow top level

[viscid swift]

right after you farm 5 La-9s

[plain saffron]

What's wrong

[eternal moth]

TFW you already have 5 copies

[plain saffron]

Other than dev15 is missing because i fucked up

[whole crypt]

I don't have 5, I have 7

[south sequoia]

looks like soyuz cv fleet is not a meme anymore

[eager mulch]

I don’t have 7, I have 2

[remote yarrow]

Oh nvm I EN'd I'm stupid

[plain saffron]

Faction flee

[viscid swift]

actually maybe 6 cause you could potentially Nahkimov, Implac, and Yk2 now in one fleet

[eager mulch]

infected by the virus

[remote yarrow]

I thought thas was the skill tab

[whole crypt]

you actually can use all 7 copies

[remote yarrow]

First time seeing a PR datamine woops

[stark quiver]

la9 ur?

[blissful hamlet]

is the UR rocket good vs heavy or is it cope just like focke?

[eager mulch]

good

[viscid swift]

is it?

[stone sluice]

I need vanguard Italian ships to grind the exp. Besides Trento from the merit shop, is there any other easy to get?

[eternal moth]

It's a rainbow BF-109

[verbal mulch]

nagami.moe is missing all the PR7 gear

[sweet delta]

i can use more than 7

[blissful hamlet]

that wasn't my question

[whole crypt]

I already need an 8th for Soyuz and Napoli will make #9

[viscid swift]

it still looses to the Saiun against heavy armor if I got the numbers right

[slow fox]

Here Napoli with skills

[whole crypt]

but La-9 higher priority now I guess

[blissful hamlet]

is it the best fighter vs heavy or is it cope like focke?

[left cedar]

Napoli seens a fucking machine gun ...
she got 2 secondaries, and ignore shields if close range ...

[viscid swift]

let me check against the Focke real quick

[calm rose]

3 secondaries actl

[south sequoia]

Can u compare it with anchorage and agir?

[blissful hamlet]

thank you cheeky

[south sequoia]

So I can have all 3 side by side

[sweet delta]

bayard has very high dps

[viscid swift]

it's a lot better but still looses to converging TBs against heavy

[south sequoia]

Ooh slightly less tankier

[blissful hamlet]

should be better than bomb fighter right?

[forest palm]

but with more damage

[eager mulch]

what’s the La-9 reload compared to tigercat and focke

[viscid swift]

yes but that's without taking into account loss of intercept potentially as always

[viscid swift]

about 1 second slower base compared to the Bf-109G and HVAR

[eager mulch]

tigercat and focke

[south sequoia]

What the focke

[cyan ravine]

I was already going to go for Napoli first

[viscid swift]

focke is half a seccond faster

[calm rose]

Is 150 eff on 1mgm good? Or is it normal across 1mgm CA?

[viscid swift]

tigercat is 2 seconds faster base nearly

[stone sluice]

Higher or way lower than Ply?

[whole crypt]

it's not bad but Napoli's main profile will be her secondaries

[vale spindle]

she has 2 secondary guns to compensate

[verbal mulch]

What forums do CN players use to discuss new ships anyway?

[eager mulch]

3*

[vale spindle]

[viscid swift]

Napoli's new main gun can ignore shields I guess, that's the only thing I find remotely interesting about it

[calm rose]

Yea im just curious. I know napoli has 2 cl + 1special sec

[eternal moth]

2 plus ghost gun

[whole crypt]

150 isn't that bad for single mount anyway

[eager mulch]

not like it’s the main focus of her kit

[sweet delta]

Bayard every 10s
targeting TargetNil
23 dmg, scaling on 100% of FP, 100% coefficient,
60 bullets of Normal ammo, 100/100/100% armor, 100±0 range, 15 velocity.

targeting TargetNil
68 dmg, scaling on 100% of FP, 100% coefficient,
25 bullets of Normal ammo, 120/120/120% armor, 100±0 range, 15 velocity. {"ignoreShield": true}.

Bayard AoA
targeting TargetNil
25 dmg, scaling on 100% of FP, 100% coefficient,
48 bullets of: bullet_79987 is a CANNON with Normal ammo, 100/100/100% armor, 100±0 range, 1 velocity. Has acceleration

targeting TargetNil
60 dmg, scaling on 100% of TRP, 100% coefficient,
3 bullets of TORPEDO with 80/100/130% armor, 3 diameter, 150±10 range, 4 velocity.

[eager mulch]

[vale spindle]

very black

[viscid swift]

wtf is that barrel length

[remote yarrow]

That's pretty long

[calm rose]

Long af

[whole crypt]

hoooooorse

[forest palm]

Japan, building it bigger = better/longer

[mint fox]

Do we have a beginner guide here? I'm new to the game

[whole crypt]

it's not that long in WoWs?

[eternal moth]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[soft raft]

Kinda is

[plain saffron]

That's what she said

[calm rose]

It is hilariously long in wows compared to normal ships

[left cedar]

ironic ... i think i hit the spot

[forest palm]

oh ya the augments are a thing, they do anything?

[south sequoia]

🫏

[vale spindle]

NOPE LOL

[remote yarrow]

Read that guide thar Hamaal sent, feel free to ask any question you got in here
As a tip,
If you plan to stay F2P don't buy these with your gems: skins, rings,packs,oil,cubes,coins,etc

[eternal moth]

PRetty minimal

[forest palm]

not surprised

[south sequoia]

What does centaur aug do?

[viscid swift]

Centaur got a faction buff thing
Leipzig is a rare base...

[forest palm]

faction buffing in 2024

[south sequoia]

... wow

Thats a whole lot...

Of nothing.

[remote yarrow]

How hungry 🐴

[whole crypt]

Leip was expected but Centair RIP

[forest palm]

I love borzois

[fervent hearth]

deleted MONKAS

[soft raft]

lmfao

[south sequoia]

As funny as it is, no memes here please (please post it in general the world needs to see borzois gun) @verbal mulch

[novel condor]

leeks out ic

[forest palm]

not even leeks, it's fuckin datamine

[faint cloud]

is modified vit2 converging or parallel？

[south sequoia]

Leipzig ended up doing more for herself than centaur

[soft raft]

It's a allied bomber so parallel

[remote yarrow]

HMS Faction Fleet

[calm rose]

Centaur one makes me sad

[left cedar]

do we know the fire pattern for CL and CA Gun ?
the new ones in PR7 obviously

[plain saffron]

Not yet, later probably

Though from the datamine you can already see how it looks

[eternal moth]

I asked about this earlier, but the new rocket does mean a buff for Enty right?

[left cedar]

like, i can see number, but 155 have theorically same pattern than 155kai, and we know the huge diff that this shit take

[blissful hamlet]

how does nakhimov freezer works? does her slow has to take effect first or does other NP slow has to take effect first or it doesn't matter in which order

[viscid swift]

yes but literally every other CV as well

[left cedar]

she lauch, if enemy got a slow, bang, they frooze
other slow than herself

[plain saffron]

Sara

[viscid swift]

not to mention a new DR CV that can equip 6 fighters this patch as well

[plain saffron]

Now when ur aux

[mint fox]

Another question, do we also have a list here of good fleets a newcomer can make to have good progression in the game?

[sweet delta]

Daisen
因果锚定·锚定解除
targeting TargetHarmRandomByWeight
160 dmg, scaling on 100% of TRP, 100% coefficient,
8 bullets of TORPEDO with 80/100/130% armor, 3 diameter, 200±10 range, 5 velocity. {"diveFilter": [2]}.

targeting TargetHarmRandomByWeight
156 dmg, scaling on 100% of FP, 100% coefficient,
8 bullets of BOMB with attach_buff [{"buff_id": 19869, "level": 4, "rant": 10000}], HE ammo, 145/110/90% armor, 15 diameter, 16x16 spread, 120±10 range, 15 velocity. {"accuracy": "chargeBulletAccuracy", "diveFilter": [2], "gravity": -0.05}.
barrage exposes by 10 units

[eternal moth]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

Go to https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/ for a number of other useful guides as well

[eager mulch]

ok gn gph see you in 11 hrs

[blissful hamlet]

so it doesn't matter in which order does the slow occurs?

[remote yarrow]

Is on the begginer guide itself, Enterprise is a filler, if you didn't pick Javelin she's replaced by Z23 or Laffey

That fleet should be enough for you to get to World/Chapter 9

[plain saffron]

Read that in order

[left cedar]

matter,s enemy must be slowed b4 she lauch, for example, for top of my head the only slow from Np that is viable in top notch its Soyuz

[hollow gust]

Why does Napoli feel like a better anchor

[sweet delta]

Napoli AoAs
targeting TargetNil
60 dmg, scaling on 100% of FP, 100% coefficient,
9 bullets of SHRAPNEL with SAP ammo, 65/125/65% armor, 1 pierce, 12±0 range, 15 velocity. {"ignoreB": true, "ignoreShield": true}. Each split into:
1 bullets of SAP ammo, 65/125/65% armor, 1 pierce, 100±0 range, 15 velocity. {"ignoreShield": true}.

targeting TargetHarmRandomByWeight
75 dmg, scaling on 100% of TRP, 100% coefficient,
4 bullets of TORPEDO with 80/100/130% armor, 3 diameter, 150±10 range, 5 velocity.

[left cedar]

Soyuz need to fire faster than her, but not fast enough to desync in future lauchs

[remote yarrow]

She's less tanky but has more damage

[verbal mulch]

Cause she is

[remote yarrow]

Also Heavy armor

[blissful hamlet]

so either chkalov or soyuz has to slow the enemy first and the does her slow turn into a freeze?

[calm rose]

Napoli aoa looks like plys skill barrage

[eternal moth]

Napoli has heavy armor?

[worldly pewter]

is this PR basically an anti medium focused series ?

[blissful hamlet]

does that mean napoli sucks at plane heavy world

[eternal moth]

Oh damn, I missed that

[viscid swift]

it's almost like I've been saying she will be for a week

[eternal moth]

That's only the second vanguard ship to be heavy natively right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[blissful hamlet]

I won't doubt cheeky speculation anymore

[hollow gust]

I don't see Nakhimov power creeping implacable in every senario though

[calm rose]

The targeting targetNil means its not aimed?

[blissful hamlet]

she has higher plane efficiency

[hollow gust]

So?

[remote yarrow]

More than speculation they were educated predictions

[blissful hamlet]

[uneven cave]

holy shit chien's alive

[viscid swift]

she also needs another NP ship to proc the root which is limited to Soyuz, Chkalov, and Kronk's cross fleet

not terrible options but you're limited still non the less in what to use if you want a freeze

[hollow gust]

60% slow is not strong enough for light sometimes , even if her damage is nicer then implacable , a stop is just better

[ember totem]

[eternal moth]

She can give a stop if you have another NP with a slow

[plain saffron]

So uhh who's barrage matter the most

[slow fox]

How many times can we expect Halford's plane to launch? (proccing her smokescreen?)

[left cedar]

new Twin 410 its basically a weaker version of 457 ... ironic ...

[whole crypt]

the problem with Nakhimov's stop is it's conditional

and slow won't be enough for bosses that matter

[left cedar]

the only one i see that can be used toghether is Soyuz ...

[blissful hamlet]

she needs to be paired with either one of 2 incredible strong ship I see

[left cedar]

and Soyuz opens some potential combinations, for example Haky or Y2

[wary robin]

I would just use Voroshilov with her permanent snare

[viscid swift]

I would not

[blissful hamlet]

lmao

[viscid swift]

there's a lot stronger options to consider than Voro

[whole crypt]

once you throw Soyuz in the fleet's off balance for OS bossing
Kronshtadt maybe

[blissful hamlet]

just pair her with soyuz or chkalov

[whole crypt]

Chkalov is not that much for bossing

[eternal moth]

I was thinking Soyuz/Nyak/YT2 sounds pretty good

[blissful hamlet]

[whole crypt]

maybe ch14/15 I don't know

[hollow gust]

One of the most effective anti light and even anti med fleets is Yorky kearsarge , using nakh means ditching one of them , or ditching a frontline slot

[whole crypt]

but for meta bossing it's not going to fly

[blissful hamlet]

her slow probably works good enought considering you use rockets on anti light

it's not like you lose 90% of the damage

[whole crypt]

have you actually considered what the comp will actually be when forcing nakhimov in

[viscid swift]

I'm not sure how well you could actually sync them up and not to mention the freeze is just 2.5 secconds and ends right after like AvP
you're just less flexible than using Implacable

[whole crypt]

Implacable's slow is longer and she's incredibly easy to time

[hollow gust]

You lose enough damage where the improvements of nakh doesn't outweigh what the rest of the fleet does

[plain saffron]

oh wow new UI

[remote yarrow]

New UI?

[forest palm]

fancy

[blissful hamlet]

sounds like you need more skill to use nakhimove effectively

[remote yarrow]

Time for ppl to complain yet again

[calm rose]

Nice

[left cedar]

yo, new DD/BBV plane, wut is the skill ?

[strong tartan]

oh thats nice

[whole crypt]

running out of space to fit series

[eternal moth]

I guess at that point it would be Soyuz/YT2/Nak/Ply/Kaza/Helena?

[hollow gust]

Nakh will be a fantastic anti heavy CV, where you don't need the time stop

[whole crypt]

sounds like you need more skill to actually properly theorycraft

[blissful hamlet]

anyway how's the new torps bomber?

[whole crypt]

floatbear gets extra planes if launched from a DD as a gear skill

[eternal moth]

garbo

[wary robin]

So, its anti-boss barrage?

[whole crypt]

Halford herself is gimmicky as fuck though

[viscid swift]

it's worse than the one from PR5

[blissful hamlet]

why garbage?

[hollow gust]

Nakh is gonna be a sidegrade to implacable just like how eagle is a sidegrade to sakura. Each are effective in different areas

[viscid swift]

you loose 2 torps for 1 second faster reload
torps do the same damage for both planes

[soft raft]

-2 torps for barely -1s reload time

[blissful hamlet]

it's still parallel?

[viscid swift]

yes

[blissful hamlet]

[sweet delta]

Nakhimov
5 planes, each with aimed at an enemy within a square
200 dmg, scaling on 100% of AVI, 100% coefficient,
2 bullets of TORPEDO with 80/100/130% armor, 8 diameter is large, 60±0 range, 6 velocity is extremely fast.

compared to a +13 ryuusei:
TORPEDO that is aimed at an enemy within a square
307 dmg, scaling on 100% of AVI, 100% coefficient,
3 bullets of TORPEDO with 80/110/130% armor, 3 diameter, 100±10 range, 3 velocity.

[hollow gust]

Sounds like it's for timing

[blissful hamlet]

what faction does nakhimov need for her exp grind?

napoli too?

[signal pollen]

does asking for help in opsi lower the rewards?

[whole crypt]

no

[calm rose]

Meta fights? No oh tb, still no

[soft raft]

nope
the rewards from the puzzles are pretty eh anyways

[whole crypt]

I imagine the TB puzzles

[crimson glacier]

Whadup gamers

[signal pollen]

Like when TB gives you the deadest stare for being stupid

[whole crypt]

Napoli pog

[blissful hamlet]

what faction does nakhimov and napoli wants

[crimson glacier]

How's it lookin

[whole crypt]

yeh the reward is shit regardless but no difference if you wait for TB's help

[wary robin]

For stupid - how good is this nakhimov barrage?

[strong tartan]

brit + russian and brit + italian

i think let me recheckj

[wary robin]

Not brits

[signal pollen]

so are they worth skipping or might as well do em?

[blissful hamlet]

brits

[strong tartan]

oh

[whole crypt]

do them, they can get in the way with auto clears later on

[faint cloud]

soyuz+nakh+hakuryuu kinda good

[blissful hamlet]

so what is it?

[sweet delta]

Halford AoA
targeting TargetNil
20 dmg, scaling on 125% of FP, 100% coefficient,
36 bullets of Normal ammo, 100/75/40% armor, 80±5 range, 15 velocity.

[strong tartan]

check it yourself

[wary robin]

Can it be changed. In 1 section it says Northern Parliament, in another Soviet Navy. It also makes confusing Sardegna with Royal Navy

[whole crypt]

good for what

[viscid swift]

how exactly?

[whole crypt]

you just listed 3 strong rainbows of course they're good

[calm rose]

Isnt this tech points needed? Not to farm cdc?

[hollow gust]

Sounds like some fat copium

[forest palm]

I honestly forget the in game faction names, and always get confused

[wary robin]

Code posted says its NP + Sardegna in reverse types

[strong tartan]

ou tech points needed

[crimson glacier]

So Napoli is just giga london

[eager mulch]

DR ancho

[eternal moth]

That looks like Northern Parliament and Royal Navy, and Royal Navy and Sardegnian to me

[calm rose]

Napoli is anchorage with damage actl

[blissful hamlet]

so nakhimov wants british and NP
napoli wants british and sardegna, is this correct?

[strong tartan]

thats what i said

[whole crypt]

more like London + Anchorage

[uneven cave]

Wait the bearcat has tiny tims
Someone please tell me it's better than the hellcat HVAR

[blissful hamlet]

it's fot the exp grind too?

[whole crypt]

without averaging the two

[viscid swift]

it's a seaplane

[steady beacon]

Uh
Both DRs are Italian/Russian exp
Front/back for Napoli/Nakhi

[eager mulch]

is nakh rld relatively slow compared to other ur cv

[strong tartan]

what type of plane is the la9 and how does it look compared to the other rainbow planes

[uneven cave]

Chen Hai for wichita meta when

[blissful hamlet]

thank you pilica

[viscid swift]

it's a rocket fighter

[eager mulch]

UR rocket fighter

[strong tartan]

finally

[viscid swift]

best fighter against medium and heavy armor
still loses I believe to the HVAR againt light

[eager mulch]

loses*

[plain saffron]

https://streamable.com/o7bqqy

[strong tartan]

exciting

[vale spindle]

7/11 Maintenance FAQ

Links

• Datamine 7/11 (PR7): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQ3T7EHtAomrCU74pWYk1q5zmUjH7IUAOuHFObcQWwZetcH3fFvZo-LSIGNU6vVWYAAubOsKlYbeI9N/pubhtml

FAQ

How good are the PR7 ships? Which one should I pick first?

It doesn't matter which one you pick first; the bottleneck is always the prints anyways. See the datamine for pre-evaluations. (coming soon)

How good are the PR7 gear?

It's pretty good, but most of the gear is on the niche side outside of the rainbow gear. See the datamine for pre-evaluations.

How to get Tech Points for new ships?

Read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology for a list of ships, locations, and tech points!

What counts as EXP? Does ___ give PR grind EXP?

Do /prgrind in #bot-spam for more information.

more information coming soon ™️

@south sequoia pin this plz thanks

[slow fox]

Here my final eHP deliberation