gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

no

just max her enhancements and skills

[sweet merlin]

i only have 3 backline ships. why is the counter 4?

my backline

[undone plover]

One is alsace which can hold an extra salvo

[calm rose]

alsace

[sweet merlin]

ah ok

for medium armour do i use ap or he?

[cobalt rapids]

for bb good ap guns are better

[silent latch]

just got akagi is she good

[viscid swift]

no

[cobalt rapids]

akagi u is decent, akagi normal not

[silent latch]

yorktown or normal akagi which is better

[cobalt rapids]

dont use either

[silent latch]

what about taihou u

[cobalt rapids]

nop

[silent latch]

intrepid

[cobalt rapids]

post ur dock in a thread

[knotty dome]

#gameplay-help message
is there anything similar to this for w15? it costs a bit more than w14 but idk if the coin and chip are better

[cobalt rapids]

15-1 is best chip
15-4 is bad coin

[knotty dome]

so 14-4 or 15-3 is best for coin?

[cobalt rapids]

14-4

[knotty dome]

ok, thanks

[wide marsh]

What is "guild tech leveling criteria" that increase cost of tech facilities?

[inland shoal]

I have no idea what you're talking about tbh

[wide marsh]

So it means "your guild still don't have this teched, but you can build it as if you was in public guild"?

[sweet merlin]

any good alternative to this? cant have evry bb/bc ship needing me to have this on thim. it a bit too expensive

[cobalt rapids]

mk6

[wide marsh]

406 MK6

[undone plover]

Basically yeah
U can upgrade beyond your current guild tech level but at a very high price
Unless u are attached to your guild u can just leave and join one where they have maxed out the tech already

[wide marsh]

Low ammo reduce AA damage?

[silent latch]

which one to buy?

[cobalt rapids]

only fighters aa

[wide marsh]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority

[sweet merlin]

my boss fleet is alsace, bis2 and enty. when vanguard comes, who should i replace?

[undone plover]

Boss fleet for what?
Campaign? Opsi?

[plain saffron]

Guild research to increase lvl
each player buy, capped at guild lvl

for example, if guild is lvl10
you start from 0. can buy up to 10

but if public guild on that server is lvl 15
after lvl10 you can buy from public guild but with higher price

[sweet merlin]

campaign

[cobalt rapids]

she replaces no1

[undone plover]

In campaign u want CV so probably replace no one there tbh

[sweet merlin]

ah k

for opsi my team is bisk2, alsace and sovetsky. anyone to replace here?

[undone plover]

@steady beacon

[cobalt rapids]

she can potentially replace one from alsace/soyuz

but i wouldnt replace either aswell

[sweet merlin]

my mob is fdg,uni, indy

[undone plover]

Current one is fine tbh
Depending on UR bulin situation u might even wanna hold off MLB vanny

[cobalt rapids]

u can shove als or soyuz into mob then

[sweet merlin]

i have 2 ur bulin atm

[undone plover]

Do u have nano MLB?

[sweet merlin]

nano?

[cobalt rapids]

shinano

[sweet merlin]

nope

[steady beacon]

Still a deep believer in Vanguard
But SBA isn't a bad fleet either

[cobalt rapids]

u can show all ur URs

[cobalt rapids]

save 4 for shinano then yea

[eager mulch]

[steady beacon]

Why are UvH and Mog partially limit broken?

[sweet merlin]

dupes

[undone plover]

Dupe

[steady beacon]

Ah

[plain saffron]

duplicates

[silk helm]

if a ship dies in combat, does it get reduces xp

[plain saffron]

yes

[sweet merlin]

nope

[undone plover]

The whole fleet gets A so yeah

[sweet merlin]

(for that fight only, then it gets no xp)

[undone plover]

And the ship wont participate in following battles if there are any so she gets even less xp

[silk helm]

well im on 12-4 boss battle, i was just planning to throw a low level ship in to just squeeze out that cdc2 xp. it dies so I get an A but won't participate in further battles. is that okay?

[undone plover]

I wouldnt do that no
Shouldnt be very hard to ensure she doesnt die

S also guarantees a ship drop which on 12-4 could be

[silk helm]

lvl 70 ping hai (with no other dragon empery ships) just gets one shot... i mean i can replace it with like a tankier ship

[sweet merlin]

why is not lvl 100?

[silk helm]

cause im poverty

[exotic wren]

And on w12

[undone plover]

If u want to squeeze out more xp put the DE ships in opsi mob fleet.
Probably gets u similar results with much less headache

Use a good tank and uni

[vagrant spoke]

What’s the upcoming gear update?

[viscid swift]

PR7 gear

[silk helm]

who r u gunna research first

[viscid swift]

kinda depends on some of the ship's CDC requirements

[sweet merlin]

any new gear coming out with pr7?

[silk helm]

yea

[wet prairie]

What armour is wichita again, I forgot

[sweet merlin]

time to see if any of them will turn meta

[south sequoia]

Light

[wide marsh]

Should I swap mobtank for one more high AA CL for w12-13 or is it just gear/lvl issue with too many enemy airplanes?

[undone plover]

Hard to guess what u are running
Show current fleet

[cobalt rapids]

w12 and 13 are quite a jump in diff

while something may work in 12 doesnt mean it would in 13

[sweet merlin]

what ship is the most tankiest in therms of raw hp / high evd+ any health/ zombie related skill?

[haughty dust]

So just unlocked Roon. I am thinking I am going to finish unlocking all IB PR ships that I have not finished unlocking next while at the same time getting Agir and Haku to FS5. What do you guys think? That way I can get all of one faction done first then move onto another faction in terms of unlocking. I already fully maxed out several other ships including Monarch, Anchorage, FDG, AvP, and Saint Louis. I think I just started Hindy after finishing unlocking Roon, but have to double check.

[eager mulch]

unlock and dev good ships preferably

[hollow gust]

As long as you are only getting prints for one season at time unlocking is whatever you want

[eager mulch]

from the same series starting from pr4 preferably

better to do one series at a time rather than jump around series to different ships

[haughty dust]

like what? Like I said those ships I mentioned at the end are already maxed FS. Haku and Agir are over Dev level 20 rn but having a hard time getting their bps to drop from research. Then my thinking about finishing IB first is so I do not have to change my xp grind formation back and forth too many times. My PR 4 is almost finished unlocking minus Marco Polo. Every other ship is fully finished or in progress with dev levels.

[eager mulch]

XP grind is whatever as long as you can coin at least one ship

[haughty dust]

currently grinding bps for Agir and Haku rn, but currently coining my last ship I unlocked of Chesire and she is also over dev level 30. Besides Her and Roon the only other ship I can coin rn is Seattle, but focusing on finishing coining Chesire first before the other two.

[viscid swift]

I'll be blunt, after gettining the initial few PR ships unlocked like FDG and Anchorage

it really doesn't matter which PR ships you unlock next so long as you have at least one ship being coined and one PR ship from each season unlocked

[sweet merlin]

should i swap laff2 with hatsuzuki?

[wind hazel]

more like kick off portland

[viscid swift]

the older PRs are just tech and prototype cores at this point and newer PRs you won't have bleuprints for them for quite some time so there is no point in rushing to unlock them

[dim laurel]

is there a website that has builds for various ships? (looking for loadouts for Saint Louis)

[sweet merlin]

slimuda

[sweet merlin]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ca?ship=saint_louis

[dim laurel]

ok ty

[dawn crest]

Hi, I'm farming the PR ships by faction, at the moment the JN ships, is Dansei worth farming now, or just farming pr1-pr6 first? Finishing Haku I would farm her, before starting Azuma and the other vanguard ships.

[sweet merlin]

after you have done the "must have" i think you should be able to dev anyone you like

[viscid swift]

well you won't have blueprints for Daisen for a a month at least so no reasont or rush unlocking her

[dawn crest]

Who are the must have?

[sweet merlin]

fdg/ agir/ ancorage iirc

[valid spoke]

is the Prototype BF-109G worth over getting ur gear prints

[sweet merlin]

should i farm 14-1 or 13-4 for exp?

[jaunty vault]

whats the context

[cobalt rapids]

14-1 is more chips

[jaunty vault]

you should farm 12-1 for exp

[worldly pewter]

if he is farming 120->125 14-1 isn't bad right ?

[jaunty vault]

13-4 is more coins btw

[cobalt rapids]

im farming lvl100s in 14-1

[sweet merlin]

tell me your fllet

[jaunty vault]

no but 12-1 is more efficient

[cobalt rapids]

3 carries + 3 lvling ships
u should farm w12 like coop advised unless ure a rly lategameplayer

[jaunty vault]

14-1 is where you go when you dont need xp

[valid spoke]

i have one copy, and i dont know if i should buy more prints with protocore instead of getting the ur prints

[viscid swift]

it's not
focus on getting 2-3 champaign guns and the UR gear prints

you'll get enough Bf-109Gs just from doing PR4 research

[worldly pewter]

the BF 109 isn't worth getting with protocores

[valid spoke]

ok so for the ur prints do i get tenrai even tho my research is focused to 4

im close to getting ply's gun

[silk helm]

do you alr have tenrai?

[valid spoke]

just 1

as for champaign gun i have 2

[viscid swift]

you want 2 before you leave PR4

[worldly pewter]

ur progression doesn't make sense TBH

[valid spoke]

i remember you telling me that, but im asking if i should just get it through research and just buy other gear

as for the champaign guns i have 2 about to get the third next month

[viscid swift]

no, getting 2 tenrais just from research will take far too long

[valid spoke]

ok got it, thank you

[wild whale]

I did some searching around and learned that the La-9 is a 'skip bomber' why do people believe it will be a fighter?

[icy mountain]

i just did 1 +13 for sandy and thats it

[undone plover]

That is fine
I think +13 sextuple and rainbow aa should be next when u get them
But always better to ask again at that point

[icy mountain]

atm, i should probably prioritize getting my 1st 457 b4 my first rainbow AA gun

[verbal mulch]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavochkin_La-9

[undone plover]

For sure
U can let cats fish enough of the AA rainbow designs and keep selectors for the other stuff (wyverns and mk7 being a high prio)

[verbal mulch]

Cause it’s a fighter according to Wikipedia

[soft raft]

It's also a rocket fighter in WoWs

[gloomy mesa]

Wait what thought 11-1

Dang it, wasted oil

[wild whale]

so is its closest equivalent right now is being a UR hvars?

[soft raft]

on paper that has the best oil/XP ratio but 12-1/12-4 is better overall in terms of general gold and XP gain

And also cog chips

[icy mountain]

should i try to get my 3rd wyvern or should i just stick with 2 wyverns for now? and save my electronics for a 457?

[soft raft]

It's a HE Rocket fighter in WoWs so yes that's looking to be the case
Wont know for sure until datamine though

[silk sphinx]

We don’t know its armor mods yet

[wild whale]

cool thanks, I don't have any HVARs so that'll be nice

[soft raft]

Just use the BF109G
People used that for anti-light long before HVAR existed

[undone plover]

2 wyverns is enough for now
Get the 457 when your t3 ords allow it
After that u can try and get one mk7 (using the gold gun route) or just hold on to mats till u decide what is your next priority

[icy mountain]

Okay then

[sinful fern]

will the current banner that feature new jersey change?

[wild whale]

that's not a banner its the permanent pool

[soft raft]

It wont update with more ships for a while
it's also a perament pool so she wont be going away

(Insert obligatory note to not hard pull Heavy or special pools for perma URs)

[sinful fern]

no i mean right now she has a rate up right?
after a while will that rate up for her change or no since ive seen her high in a tierlist and i wanna get her

[soft raft]

That is not rateup

[whole crypt]

NJ is not on rate up, that's just her in the perm banner

[soft raft]

she has no "Rate up" symbol next to her

Also just save your cubes, NJ aint going anywhere and we're getting a UR rerun next week so I'd save my cubes for that instead

[sinful fern]

oh mb but why is she on the banner like she appears when you go into the heavy gacha

[plain saffron]

Most recently added usually on those

[whole crypt]

perm pools features ships at the top, doesn't mean there's rate up
NJ and Shinano are both in heavy and special sharing the 1.2% UR rate

[undone plover]

Other gacha have standard banners as well
Not every banner is event banner

[worldly pewter]

u need to understand how the game works first before deciding

[soft raft]

Because she's a BB
And Heavy pool hulltypes are CA/BB/BC (And one instance of CB that's currently event limited)

Shinano is also there and NJ is also in Special for UR reasons ig

[plain saffron]

Or anyone that is interesting enough to make player pulls

Not helping that AL doesn't have list for ship rates

[whole crypt]

they only have rarity rates so

only rateup lists ship rates

[plain saffron]

Yes so just what i said

[glossy spear]

Is Foch Meta worth replacing any of my ships

[plain saffron]

Nope

[soft raft]

Nope

she's dogshit
Doesnt even give good tech which would be the usual saving grace for Elite METAs

[whole crypt]

these will basically be the ships you will use until they're lv90-100 or so up to ch9 at least

[glossy spear]

Oh ok so I’ll just level up my ships and she just looks kinda good but sucks

[worldly pewter]

looks can be deceiving

that is why we read

[whole crypt]

you'll want to start LBing them soon and start making some progress by the looks of that

[glossy spear]

Yeah I’m working on unicorn right now I’ll probably do Portland next, thanks

[reef flume]

Does anybody here have tips/advices on how to get UR gears bps (Tenrai, Hindy gun, Plygun and so on) more easier/faster? Cuz seriously how can y'all craft those gears so fast?

[soft raft]

Q and G researches

[zinc turret]

its not fast lol its take arround 2-3 months to get 1 ur gear

[sinful fern]

i dont really understand whats BB CA and BC?

[reef flume]

I mostly get E and O researches I never saw Q and G researches. How do I get those

[tame jungle]

rng

[reef flume]

(I also never saw rainbow research projects)

[soft raft]

you dont need rainbow projects to get rainbow gear

[worldly pewter]

it is how the US army named ( coded ) their ship hull types

[soft raft]

Hulltypes
In this case:
BB = Battleship
BC = Battlecruiser
CA = Heavy Cruiser

[viscid swift]

the ARMY? you sure about that

[reef flume]

Forgive me for my ignorance but: what's that?

[tame jungle]

random chance

[sinful fern]

so basically she's permamently there and the reason why shes feature on the banner is not because of rate up right?

[reef flume]

Ah k

[worldly pewter]

i think i read the wiki article of it when i joined the game
did i en read ?

[zinc turret]

random number generator , basically depend on ur luck

[undone plover]

Read this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#research_project_priority
Outside of picking good research nothing else u can do

[soft raft]

She just happens to be the most recent addition to the perma pools yee
Her art will most likely be replaced later in the future as another event gets archived (or prob not cuz shiny UR)

[viscid swift]

do you know what the army is...
ever heard of the navy....

[tame jungle]

argue in dms?

[reef flume]

Thank u

[sinful fern]

wdym "another event gets archived" is she available in an event

[worldly pewter]

i don't know if they are different or similar TBH i m not that knowledgeable in the military stuff

[viscid swift]

the navy is the branch of the armed forces with the ships

[soft raft]

No her event has already been archived

When a event gets archived, its map is avaliable to be playable again, the banner ships are added to perament light/heavy/special pools or merit/guild shop, and sometimes a gear drop might be added to core data shop

And all of this is perament

[sinful fern]

so would doing her event give NJ as a reward?

[undone plover]

I will add it is probably better to focus on ship face research not gear research
Since getting one copy of most UR gear by the time u finish a season is good enough for most ppl
Unless u want to spend 6-7 months per season focusing the gear

[soft raft]

Nope
The only event ship you can get from doing the WA maps is the SR Shop ship

[finite crag]

were it so easy, but no

[sinful fern]

whats WA?

[undone plover]

Tbh it is even easier
Just need to be patient
NJ is essentially free at this point just gotta wait a few months

[finite crag]

war archive

[soft raft]

War Archive
The whole system I've been explaining

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/War_Archives

[finite crag]

even if you obtain nj this early on, shes not gonna even be good because youll lack the ur bulins to limit break her

[sinful fern]

the game is shockingly complicated

[sinful fern]

whats UR

[finite crag]

ultra rare

rainbow 🌈

[soft raft]

eh it's not as bad once you wrap your head around it

[sinful fern]

all theses shortened words are killing me

[worldly pewter]

have u played another gacha game ?

[sinful fern]

yeah i have

[soft raft]

what does that have to do with this
Even if you know terms in another game, that doesnt neccesarily mean they can easily grasp terms in this game, esp when they're fresh new

[inland shoal]

(As long as you don't sweat the details)

[worldly pewter]

u should know then that gacha games are usually overwhelming on the knowledge side
so u want to take it easy and go slowly

[silk helm]

i feel you, azur lane has a learning curve for sure

[sleek spade]

Is there anything of note for the new gear labs stuffs?

[sinful fern]

one key difference i see is that the game is kinda chill unlike ba or nikke which light fire under you trying to convince to get meta units so you dont suffer afterwards

[worldly pewter]

if u don't want to make mistakes it is here where u ask

[viscid swift]

there's no gear lab update, new gear is for PR7

[soft raft]

Gear lab? What gear lab update?
This is research update

Wait till datamine

[worldly pewter]

if u don't want more headache take the answer with no more questions

[sleek spade]

Ah brah I thought it was gearlab lol

[silk helm]

azur lane meta units are really nice to have, but you can get a lot of really good units outside the gacha

[sinful fern]

wdym outside the gacha

[tame jungle]

many ways to cut the cake for most content nowadays

[silk helm]

like you don't need to pull for great units (i.e. unicorn)

[worldly pewter]

nikke is techincally an idle game that i personally don't include them in the usual classic gacha games
i don't know what is ba TBH

[ember totem]

There's ships from places like the Guild Shop that can help you progress well

[finite crag]

and this game isnt an idle game?

[soft raft]

For example, Unicorn is basically the most cracked healer in the game and she's obtainable from guild shop for basically free

[worldly pewter]

yes it isn't

[sinful fern]

free? ive never seen her before tho

[strange sphinx]

Sorry this is not an idle game

Unfortunately

[eager mulch]

it’s an auto game

[soft raft]

Have you tried actually clicking on "Elite ship"? It's a selector and she's part of it
(Also give this a read when you can)
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[strange sphinx]

?????

[sinful fern]

ba is blue archive
i dont really consider nikke is an idle game cause i play it on pc and i actively participate in the battle so its more fun

[finite crag]

tomato tomato game plays itself

[ember totem]

semantics o'clock

[soft raft]

[south sequoia]

[red stirrup]

gud cat? thats main accuracy on left and flame aggression on right

[south sequoia]

I don't recall this being #other-games discussion

[cobalt rapids]

aight cat

u rolled 1/4 basically

[forest palm]

I see Iron Blood Talent 🚮

[soft raft]

Iron blood faction buff cringe but flame is pog

[forest palm]

it's a Cat with only one worthwhile talent, it's basically a filler that can be thrown away

[left cedar]

quite impossible to know if its gud or no just by pics ...
that can be rld, fp+hp, or fp talents, and rainbow can be flames, but can be forestry ...

[worldly pewter]

yeah then i can see why AL might get u overwhelmed on the knowledge side
that is why u want to take it easy at the start or even make ur own thread to ask people whatever u like and get a dedicated advisement

[sinful fern]

playing it yourself is more fun tbh

[finite crag]

cool have fun

[cobalt rapids]

theys said what the talents are

[sleek spade]

So… will we be having PR6 catch up soon tm?

[left cedar]

imagine backread

[strange sphinx]

[forest palm]

not immediately, but eventually

[south sequoia]

[sleek spade]

I surely need them DR6 bp

[strange sphinx]

Man, Give oil, can't farm

[south sequoia]

Eventually, when is eventually?

[strange sphinx]

[left cedar]

somewhere between tommorow and never ?

[viscid swift]

if you consider 6 months soon then yes

[tame jungle]

there's not actually a pattern is there

[sleek spade]

Breh

[ember totem]

Eventually is when you eventually ban someone
Also hi cleo

[south sequoia]

[red stirrup]

my current oscar is loading battleships, lookout main, helmsman large ships, and artillery main. better or worse?

[worldly pewter]

are u still going in w14 without a healer ?
note that 14-1 is like 1/5 the difficulty of the latter stages

[forest palm]

eventually is what you tell your kid, when you don't plan on giving them something

[strange sphinx]

[left cedar]

W14 is doable without healer, u just need more effort, and manuel
also doable with 1 faction only ...
well, at least ones that have SSs

[ember totem]

Yeah it's been proven to be done but you need the ships, knowledge and skill

[south sequoia]

And gear and enhancements

Maybe even tech too

[silk helm]

nice, i have 0/6

[left cedar]

i'm not the one that will reduce my own tech and go try to beat 14-4 without any tech and monofaction

W15 beat the shit out of me, so i'm retired, at least till i got my H-39 UR CV

[viscid swift]

no thank you, I'd prefer not to have PTSD 3.0

[whole crypt]

it starts idling once you get there

[silk helm]

which pr7 ship r u doing first?

[whole crypt]

depends on why you want to know

[glossy spear]

If your farming a stage do you want clearing mode on or off

[whole crypt]

on

[silk helm]

just curious

[whole crypt]

nakhimov

no, not because of cat or faction or meta

[lament cave]

so which map is the best to grind exp?

[whole crypt]

generally ch12

[viscid swift]

I just hope they don't copy Chkalov's requirements for for her first CDC

[whole crypt]

why would that be a problem

[viscid swift]

all of my NP and Sardenega main fleets are 120

[whole crypt]

just be like me and it stops being a problem

[left cedar]

probally i will do Nakhi > Napolli > IJN one
and that is it
i'm quite curious to see how Nakhi it will be, more of the same, or something "new"

[whole crypt]

well I'm just going lazy mode with Soyuz/Volga/Chkalov

[dense eagle]

are there going to be any events soon? im pretty low on cubes rn so wanna know if i should be prepared

[viscid swift]

Vanguard rerun is next week

[whole crypt]

next event is Vanguard rerun, maybe next week

[left cedar]

kinda Pr7 needs cubes, so its kinda of event, but its doable
and then the rerun next week

[whole crypt]

we know it's next maint, we're just not sure if it's next week

[dense eagle]

i alr have every UR, any new ships?

[viscid swift]

no

[whole crypt]

no new ships in reruns anymore

[dense eagle]

also why does pr7 need cubes exactly

ive not been keeping up

[whole crypt]

all ship dev takes cubes and cube researches take cubes

[viscid swift]

you need cubs to unlock the ships

[left cedar]

every shipyard need cubes

[dense eagle]

huh guess i forgot then

[whole crypt]

last step for all ship dev is coin + cube

that's even if you don't do cube researches

[dense eagle]

what research do i focus after i have every pr ship max

[left cedar]

its 5 and 15 ? (PR DR)
idr the values

[spice phoenix]

which SR CVs are worth MLB? (worlds 13+ and arbiters)

[dense eagle]

yeah i remember now thanks

[whole crypt]

PR7 after maintenance

[whole crypt]

Enterprise and maybe Shangri-La

[dense eagle]

now? is focusing pr6 good? ive had all maxxed for quite some time but ive just had it on pr6 the entire time but idk if it was a good idea

[spice phoenix]

shangri-la it is

[whole crypt]

there's like half a day until maintenance, what you pick now won't be much difference

[viscid swift]

you should have been focusing on getting UR gear in the mean time

[whole crypt]

otherwise you pick based on what gear you want/need

[left cedar]

PR6 have a CA UR Gun
LOL
imagine wasting time with CA DMG, since basically only 1 CA trully its capable of do dmg (with guns)
but isnt a totally waste of time

[dense eagle]

is it the prototype triple 203mm skc main gun mount because i quite literally have the EXACT amount needed to craft it

[cobalt rapids]

unzen can do dmg with guns

[whole crypt]

it's generally the best CA gun now, except for specifically anti-light

[dense eagle]

alright good to know it wasnt a complete waste, thanks for the help

[whole crypt]

well 1 copy sounds pretty bad, did you start PR6 late or just not really picking good researches

[left cedar]

pretty sure her gun DMG isnt the biggest piece of her cake ...

[dense eagle]

what i do to research is i either choose g412 or i choose the one with pictures of shipgirls

[cobalt rapids]

i dont think she does more dmg with her torps vs her guns

[dense eagle]

i dont really know what to choose so

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[viscid swift]

so you kept taking face researches after maxing everything and not taking Qs for UR gear prints, yikes

[whole crypt]

after you finish ships generally the focus should be on rigging analysis to get gear

[left cedar]

2 MG Vs 2 TRP reloading simultaneous
i quite doubt her gun can beat that, maybe works againts light

[whole crypt]

or actually just focus gear along the way anyway because ships will finish regardless

[viscid swift]

2 main gun mounts remember

[dense eagle]

dude idk im a casual player man i just do all events and use up my oil

[cobalt rapids]

i would believe it on heavy

[tame jungle]

doesn't change the fact that it's a massive waste of resources. no issues, it's just a game, just don't do it again

[whole crypt]

it's twice the Ibuki

[dense eagle]

ok got it

[silk helm]

whats a massive waste? taking face researches after its alr been developed?

[worldly pewter]

waste of time mostly

[whole crypt]

and coins

[tame jungle]

protocore copium

[viscid swift]

taking face researches after everything has been maxed not focuing on getting more coppies of UR gear

[whole crypt]

unless you're just coping for prints to turn into protocore

[viscid swift]

you're just getting prototype cores for nothing at that point

[silver lintel]

Just cope with drake gun

[worldly pewter]

isn't it one of the best ca guns

[whole crypt]

why cope with drake guns when you can pick what guns are appropriate for the situation

[urban lynx]

double catapults or shells for Kearsarge?

[left cedar]

even if its for Protocore farming, its quite a waste, cuz even if u dosnt focus on farming protocore, if u got every PR maxed u will farming protocore more than u need to expend ... mostly cuz the guns in protocore its the same u have a giant mountaion without use to be craft

[viscid swift]

shells and/or fire control radar/table

[left cedar]

me with 12 Drake guns in depot, and someshit like 6 then +13

[whole crypt]

can confirm I have absolutely no use for proto cores besides buying gear prints for fun

[sweet delta]

How do I do the "and" and put 4 auxes on kear

[left cedar]

teach me, my FdG need a boost

[viscid swift]

step one, download World of Warships

[silk helm]

which pr7 ship r u doing first?

[tame jungle]

~~new anti powercreep feature? ~~

[silver lintel]

If i dont have hvarcat what plane do I put on kear, is bf109g copium

[tame jungle]

bf109g is fine

[cobalt rapids]

its not as good but what can u do

[viscid swift]

or just wait for the new UR rocket fighter

[sweet delta]

No

[whole crypt]

depends on what you're using Kearsarge for, you can also just use normal USS fighters

[left cedar]

a UR Fighter it will be funny

[viscid swift]

it's been confirmed, Nahkimov's rocket fighters will be the UR gear for this season

[soft raft]

Yup
Most likely gonna be anti-light since it's HE in WoWs

[left cedar]

why i'm thinking that will be capable of intercept and be quite broken on it

[whole crypt]

wait for datamine

[plain saffron]

no

[tame jungle]

no

[eager mulch]

no

[silver lintel]

So hvarcat will be powerceeped?

[cobalt rapids]

wait for datamine

[viscid swift]

Saratoga won't be released early

[whole crypt]

well you guys have fun with PR7, I still have 2 more days of imas to go

[viscid swift]

distinct possibility but wait and see

[plain saffron]

wait for datamine and wait for saratoga to get into my dream and reveal the gameplay

[cobalt rapids]

what gameplay

[jaunty vault]

time for you to sleep nagami

[whole crypt]

AL gameplay nagami you funny

[plain saffron]

but it's only 12am

[jaunty vault]

[viscid swift]

anyway
5 new ships, 6 new pieces of gear and 2 augment modules
lots of fun

[silk helm]

lots of fun for old players

[left cedar]

yeah, really funny, ships that it will take at least 30~ days to know for sure the potential, and someshit like 50~ days to know the potential of UR gear ...
easier to know the next UR potential b4 UR gear and DRs

[plain saffron]

so fun i considered taking a day off to suffer

[silver lintel]

After finishing pr6 i still need to go back to pr5 for d30 brest and a copy of plygun so prolly pr7 a month later lol

Does d face give ur gear print

[whole crypt]

already took days off for other game no leave for AL

[cobalt rapids]

it has a chance yes

[whole crypt]

starting PR7 a month late is fine

the only real issue with starting a series late is needing more prints for FS before face goes away, which won't happen to PR7 for quite a while

[glossy spear]

Is it worth buying t3 tech packs from the shop

[whole crypt]

not really

[worldly pewter]

what about starting pr7 a year later ?

[tulip zenith]

is shima still best torp

[cobalt rapids]

no its unzen

unless battle ends in 1 preload

[tulip zenith]

fair play

if i dont have unzen tho should i use shima

[cobalt rapids]

do u need specifically a torp ship ? shima is a good dps regardless so sure

[tulip zenith]

ok thx

[novel condor]

U sleep also u Goober, it's past your bedtime

[keen sable]

you should use ships that clear the content you want to clear

[twin spoke]

I need some good HE DD guns, which should I look out for?

[sweet delta]

Why HE

[worldly pewter]

the event ur one is cracked

[twin spoke]

Because I got some AP ones already, and "normal" sucks lol

[keen sable]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#dd_guns

[sweet delta]

But normal doesnt suck

[twin spoke]

I could technically build the UR IJN one but... that one seems off with the AA stat idk

[cobalt rapids]

the best ap dd gun deals better with all armors than any he dd gun for gun dmg

[jaunty vault]

[twin spoke]

Wat

[cobalt rapids]

100kai is only the second best dd gun

[sweet delta]

AA stat and ammo type? I think you're looking at all the wrong things, just read the guide

[jaunty vault]

for gun dmg

[twin spoke]

The game doesn't exactly tell ya anything comprehensive sooo

[sweet delta]

So use the guide

[twin spoke]

Guide it is then

[keen sable]

listen to your heart. but it's not always right. in fact so far it's 0 for 2.

[sweet delta]

Or wiki for (possibly) more advanced gaming

[twin spoke]

Because of the pierce?

[sweet delta]

Because it's just the best

[cobalt rapids]

not because of pierce but because the cumulative factors

[whole crypt]

it just does more damage

[twin spoke]

Mogadors gun seemed kinda busted but for some reason doesn't really do damage against BB enemies for example, the damage numbers get smaller and grey

[keen sable]

game tells you almost everything you need to know. At worst you will be around 13% off based on the ONE thing the game doesn't tell you which generally isn't going to change relative rankings much

[whole crypt]

that's because mog gun only has 55% on heavy armour

[cobalt rapids]

if mogador gun doesnt do dmg for bb enemies the other ones will do even less

[keen sable]

true. now try an he one and watch it do even worse.

[whole crypt]

but you won't find a gun that deals more damage than mog gun against heavy still

[twin spoke]

It do seem very strong

[native folio]

Can someone help me build 2 fleets?

[sweet delta]

DPS in azu lane?

[keen sable]

you don't have ships for it

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[twin spoke]

So the 100 Kai do be good? I might just build one then xD

[whole crypt]

next best DD gun if you can afford it

[keen sable]

are you basing that on something or just asking?

[twin spoke]

Not like I can get another mog gun

[polar venture]

i got krond in tank spot in boss team. is good idea?

[sweet delta]

If she's 6 stars already

[polar venture]

yes she is

[keen sable]

depends on your fleets

[sweet delta]

It's at least a good idea, don't know about great or amazing idea

[polar venture]

I was trying to put Roon u in there but IDK who I would take out

[keen sable]

good ideas clear the content you want to do. all other ideas are bad.

[polar venture]

i know my DD arent optimal atm

[sweet delta]

They're very suboptimal

[soft raft]

Where is your starter DD

[native folio]

Ok I should just stick to one fleet rn? Who should I put on it besides unicorn Helen Pennsylvania and Portland? Or should I not even put those characters on it

[keen sable]

you would replace kitatrash

[polar venture]

shes placed high on tier list

[keen sable]

yours isn't

[soft raft]

You are nooooooooooooooooooooooowhere close to a 2nd fleet right now with those lvls

Your starter DD and ig currently Long island ig

[forest palm]

wtf am I reading....

[keen sable]

Pennsylvania, Unicorn, Long Island, Portland, Helena, Laffey

[soft raft]

not at D10

[viscid swift]

sigh

[forest palm]

Unique being weird, and not explaining shit

[keen sable]

mogtrash also, just kita even worse trash

[twin spoke]

Was going for Helena Meta in Dossiers first the right choice? Normal one seemed very useful to me so thought Meta one would be even better xD

[hot bobcat]

I need help making a decent temporary vanguard of iron blood ships so i can get roon out of the way and start getting FdG and those PR4 ships...

[twin spoke]

Ok now it's getting unhinged xD

[polar venture]

soooooooooooo, who should get replace with roon u?

[soft raft]

Helena META doesnt see as much use in the long run as her regular counterpart but eh doesnt really matter who you go for first there

[keen sable]

nothing good about a LB1 mogador

[soft raft]

Prob Breenus in terms of tankiness but tbh you wasted alot of time raising Roon Muse

[forest palm]

would rather replace the low dev Kitakaze, or the low LB Mog

[twin spoke]

Would need a fairly strong max LB replacement then no?

[worldly pewter]

can u tell why the choice of separating mog and alsace ?

[rain vine]

you throw any 3 ironblood vanguards into your mob fleet and farm world 9+, ideally world 12

[keen sable]

no why would you? LB1 vanguards aren't even remotely good

[polar venture]

i really prefer to pretty much only use ships with a future. i hate using something ill just throw away later

[soft raft]

because they dont need to be with eachother to function properly?

[twin spoke]

I mean, some people started recently, me included

[forest palm]

the problem is Roon U doesn't particularly have anything redeeming to her

[twin spoke]

There's people in here who haven't been no-lifing for 3 years xD

[polar venture]

pretty much no thought went into that. kita went on one team and mog went on the other

[keen sable]

so? where's portland, starter, helena, whoever you used to get kitakaze

[hot bobcat]

Well fuck... thats gonna be a pain in the ass on not dying

[crisp estuary]

[soft raft]

That's where the Unicorn retrofit hypercarry comes in to keep them alive
And/or farming lower difficulty content where they wont be as prone to dying spontaneously

[keen sable]

and if you paid for kitakaze, you should pay $5 more and MLB her...

[twin spoke]

I max LB'd and fully retrofitted Javelin, she does very okay damage

[worldly pewter]

yeah but being together should function better right ? theoretically

[twin spoke]

Portland on the other hand is uhh... Idk if that retrofit would save her

[polar venture]

would prinz heinrich be better? theyre in the same tier so idk

[keen sable]

it'll still be significantly more than kitakaze

[twin spoke]

Don't have Kita, wouldn't know

[rain vine]

portland's tankiness comes from her retrofit nodes

[soft raft]

you have to do like 85% of her retrofit for rookie missions and you may as well do the rest of it

Not like she's terrible either, she's your best budget tank for early game

[polar venture]

nah i didnt pay for her. i paid for odin

[twin spoke]

Kazagumo is surprisingly good tho? Might be just me

[tame jungle]

No

[soft raft]

In terms of her utility yes in certain scenarios

[cobalt rapids]

good in certain scenarios

[soft raft]

stat wise she's nothing really special

[tame jungle]

ARA buff good

[polar venture]

is roon u or prinz heinrich better?

[hot bobcat]

Well its a good thing than the war archives and other stuff gave me a shit ton of bp's for gear and also got bombarded with lots of t3 and t4 loot

[twin spoke]

I got both Heinrich and Eugen in my first 2 days of playing back then so Portland kinda got left behind haha

[cobalt rapids]

pretty equal but hein gives tech so hein

[native folio]

Who are best 2 to put in my dorm rn?

[soft raft]

You should've raised Portland instead of Eugen
Eugen on paper is very bulky but she's too expensive fwiw compared to Portland

[hot bobcat]

Prob unicorn and portland

[polar venture]

roon u doesnt give tech???? really?

[soft raft]

Yeah Muse and child ships dont give tech

[keen sable]

unicorn and laffey

[viscid swift]

you know there's tech right?

[cobalt rapids]

with 2 slots ull have to rotate based on morale

try to get one more slot + 2nd floor asap

[twin spoke]

Idk, worked out in the end I guess

[polar venture]

i read what you said but i didnt understand you

[viscid swift]

after a certain point you'll run out ships to level you'll actually use
so you start leveling ships to 120 for the stat bonus they when they're level 120

either way though, Kitakaze is still a few weeks off at least from being usable
and mogador potentially months off

[polar venture]

hmm okie dokie

ill keep that in mind, thanks

[twin spoke]

The thing still keeping me from building Haku despite the hard IJN grind since I started ;w;

[viscid swift]

but anyway, what content are you even trying to clear with the ships you just shwoed

[hot bobcat]

Current gear available

[polar venture]

i just got to world 11

[glossy spear]

Should I only focus on the campaign or are there any event or daily raids I should do?

[viscid swift]

then you should absolutely not be using Moagdor or Kitakaze

[polar venture]

do you get tech from shipyard ships?

[jaunty vault]

yes

/fleettech in bot spam for more info

[abstract latch]

Which shipwoman should i buy from medal shop?

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#medal

[abstract latch]

Thank u

[plain saffron]

Btw official term is shipgirl

[abstract latch]

Ok

[tame jungle]

Boatwife

[plain saffron]

Shiphag

[modest moat]

Boatbitch

[left cedar]

garotas navio, in PT/BR

[abstract latch]

Btw what about this priority ships, who should i pick?

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research give this a read

[glossy spear]

Are the level 10,20, etc packs worth purchasing with gems?

[cobalt rapids]

only if ure whaling for cubes which is not a high prio to whale for

[glossy spear]

Oh ok but if I just started I shouldn’t buy it

[cobalt rapids]

nope u got way better spendings for ur gems
also dont touch stuff outside 1-2 dorm slots + 2nd floor and dockspace if ure f2p

[abstract latch]

Thank u

[abstract latch]

What does DRs mean btw?

[cobalt rapids]

decisive rarity

rainbow equivalent for shipyard ships like PR is for SR

[abstract latch]

Ohh

[turbid dawn]

Bit of a strange/specific question but I know PR7 comes out tomorrow. I’ve been farming PR6 since it came out and I was stuck on 35/50 for the gun for about 4 months then over the past week I’ve gotten 13 prints out of nowhere. Would it be better to get PR7 started or get the last 2 prints?

[stark quiver]

get last 2

[cobalt rapids]

how many hindy guns u got, i would finish it but yea

on avg u should be done in like 4 days

[turbid dawn]

I have 0, throughout the whole season this is all I've gotten

[stark quiver]

finish it pls, only 2 off

[keen sable]

2 years later...are we there yet?

[stark quiver]

soon™️

[turbid dawn]

It's stupid as well because I'd say it's been a good 4-5 months of mostly rigging analysis and approx 900-1000 prints for each ship and I got next to 0 gun prints

[cobalt rapids]

5 months of 0 gun prints is very very unlikely, consider the projects u pick outside riggings

[turbid dawn]

It was from about Feb I stayed at around 35 until re3cently because I tihnk about 1month 1/2 ago I asked in here if I was doing something wrong because of the lack of prints I was getting

[cobalt rapids]

G4h, G1h30, E2h are some u should be aiming for not faces if ure picking those, outside riggings ofc

[turbid dawn]

Then starting last week I just got 13 out of nowhere without changing anything

I got 3 in 1 day even

[crimson glacier]

going a month without any prints is insanely rare

[keen sable]

It it makes you feel better i have about 600BP of each ship and almost 3 guns.

[worldly pewter]

yeah i think even u did the worst effeciency one u could have gotten some

[turbid dawn]

Well thats why I came in here and asked a while back if there was some sort of pity or something for it because it felt ridiculous

[eternal basalt]

Maybe they run ONLY q research

[cobalt rapids]

i mean i cannot deny reality but yea consider mitigating/improving ur rng more with good projects

[quartz onyx]

Just got back into the game again and picked up the prototype 152 gun. Who deserves it the most?

[crimson glacier]

you had to do something wrong if you get nothing for months

[turbid dawn]

I basically do rigging>1:30 Qs>UR faces>then w/e after that

[keen sable]

third most important bb?

[quartz onyx]

Cant it go on a front liner too? I thought that's where it would work best.

[cobalt rapids]

Qs are rigging and theres no 1:30 Q
and the w.e matters aswell

[turbid dawn]

Whatever the 1:30 grant donations are. The whatever would mostly just be w/e the fastest face one is

[keen sable]

what you pick in rigging matters

[cobalt rapids]

well G1h30 has worse rates than D-UL

[turbid dawn]

I'll awlays just go for the longest one

Unless the 30m is there

[sour compass]

Is my team build good?

[crimson glacier]

that warspite is just complete waste of a spot

[keen sable]

take whoever you were using before warspite and presto?

maybe whoever before eugen also...

[sour compass]

thanks

[worldly pewter]

try to put portand instead of eugen

[eternal moth]

/oilpsa

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468804119377739776/949345167092105277/Untitled_presentation-page-001.jpg

[wary timber]

So if I'm having issues with w11 I can spam w10 for levels and stuff right. Since it's more cost effective there

[viscid swift]

yes

[eternal moth]

Isn't 11-1 the most cost effective stage in the game?

[undone plover]

depends what the issue is
could be an easy fix

[eternal moth]

Obviously that isn't an option if you can't beat it

[wary timber]

Some of my ships are taking heavy damage and barely surviving at w11. So w10 it is till I can solve this issue with something that can tank all those issues

[eternal moth]

Front or back line?

[wide marsh]

Why "recommended" button don't want to autoselect my 100+lvl ship for commission? Its not in pvp/fleet/event.

[eternal moth]

It might be in a hard mode fleet on some stage

[wary timber]

Both. The ships in question are newer or underequipped ships I pushed to service to get Agir

[undone plover]

check hard mode all the maps and war archive C and D maps

[wide marsh]

Will do. Brb

[eternal moth]

Get w11 to safe before running anything underleveled

[wary timber]

True

[wide marsh]

Yes. It was in hard mode. Ty very much

[wary timber]

I ran out of planes for Graf Zeppelin. So she's stuck using Shidens while I try to get another squadron of F6F Hellcats built

[eternal moth]

Getting a stage to safe gives you essentially a +20 level advantage on any ships you're using

[wary timber]

At least I have the D4 variant of the Stuka available

[wide marsh]

Stukas are not so good unfortunately.

[wary timber]

My ships are mostly up to lv105 or up to 115 tops

Only NJ and Unicorn are at 120

[eternal moth]

Keep in mind that Graf only needs a single IB plane, so using even a purple Corsair or Hellcat is fine if you're using a Junkers

[grizzled sun]

Which ship should I get from the new comer award?

[eternal moth]

Enterprise if you don't have her, Hood if you do

[grizzled sun]

Enterprise it is, thanks!

[eternal moth]

If you have one, you can also use a rocket plane (BF-109g or FW-190A) and then give her a barracuda and helldiver

[wary timber]

That's the issue. I scrapped most older planes I didnt need. And the better planes are on Unicorn , Enterprise and Perseus. I only have gold planes like unupgraded suiseis and unique planes like the BF109G or even the tallboy Barracudas left

[eternal moth]

Purples are good enough

[wary timber]

I'll have to see. Don't think I have any available SB2Cs left to build for now

[crimson glacier]

and perseus doesnt even have much use anyway if you have uni

[wary timber]

Unless both fleets need healers like what I'm doing

[crimson glacier]

never situation like that

[eternal moth]

They never do

[slow fox]

Full healing fleet

my beloved

[eternal moth]

Don't worry about grinding XP on your boss fleet, just throw your best ships in there

Here's a loadout that could work for Graf (the barracuda or cata can be purple, it's fine)

[wary timber]

Unicorn and Enty are on my boss fleet. I use Perseus on my mobbing/leveling fleet

[eternal moth]

Drop Percy, move Uni to mob, profit

[wary timber]

Only reason I need perseus on mobbing fleet is cuz my main fleet ships take damage too

[eternal moth]

Uni heals the whole fleet

[keen sable]

sounds like a great reason to use unicorn on mob

[eternal moth]

Assuming she's retrofit

[crimson glacier]

ships just take less dmg in general with uni around compared to percy

[wary timber]

Hmm

I'll have to see to that. Cuz moving Unicorn to mobbing fleet might .. take a bit more.

[worldly pewter]

sounds like u are running into a massive gear check situation

[wary timber]

Don't worry I'll be replacing her with Implacable... once I can get enough planes, catspults and get her to lv100

[crimson glacier]

imp cant replace unicorn

[wary timber]

What I mean is moving Unicorn to my mobbing fleet. And having Enty and Implacable as CVs to nuke bosses

But yea. I lack a lot of gear in the first place

[eternal moth]

You can run double BB on boss

[wary timber]

Then NJ and Howe?

[eternal moth]

That'd be fine

[native folio]

at around what player/shipgirl levels are you able to start retrofitting? I can't get any of the retrofit blueprints yet

[keen sable]

push 12 and all your problems go away

[wary timber]

Well well. I got a lot of work ahead.

[eternal moth]

You need to do hard modes for them

[native folio]

what levels do i need to be around to do hard modes?

[eternal moth]

Beat 1-4 and you can do 1-1 hardmode

[glacial heath]

is mogador good in ch 15?

[keen sable]

25 maybe would be nice

you can do it day 1

[native folio]

Ok yeah I didn't know what the threat level was so I thought I couldn't do them haha, I was scared to do the lethal threat level ones

[loud rover]

Every level regardless if it’s hard mode or not starts as lethal. You constantly running that stage steadily brings it down to safe

[worldly pewter]

as long as u overlevel the enemy u should be fine

[tranquil saffron]

Can I get a kinda detailed run down on how and when to use this thing

Primarily just what ships are the priority to use it on

[eternal basalt]

Use on everyone (except AA fanatics like Sandy)

[tranquil saffron]

Huh?

I need an explanation

[viscid swift]

the 57 is in effect the best accelerator AA gun in the game, it's a direct upgrade to thw twin 90mm you've probably been using up to this point

[tranquil saffron]

You're probably going to be very disappointed, I have no idea what an accelerator AA gun is or does

[viscid swift]

to oversimplify things by a lot, AA guns can in effect be divided into 2 categories,

your "Carry" AA guns which are basically the Sextuple and Roomba, AA guns with high damage but relatively slow reload as a consequence
carries are the other category, they basically try to bring the average reload of your AA Guns(remember, AA gun reload time is averaged across the fleet) which is pretty much everything else

it's of course not nearly that simple but min maxing AA guns is uh yeah......

[slow fox]

Min Maxing AA mentioned

[tranquil saffron]

Thank you for the monkey explanation, I really appreciate it

So ships with strong AA get sextuple and Roomba while everyone else gets the faster stuff

So is the Roomba the best AA for sandy?

[viscid swift]

it's contextual

Roombas and Sextuples aren't quite intechangable
The sextuple does more damage per wave but it has much worse range than the roomba
so the roomba is better when you're dealing with infrequent waves and sextuple when planes are just being spammed at your ships

[wispy pendant]

I didn’t know that, good to know

[turbid dawn]

Bit of a question while I'm reading this, do ships like Guam who have x2 AA gun mounts, does the RLD double because she has two or she's just shooting the same AA gun twice at the same speed

[viscid swift]

the latter

[wispy pendant]

When would you use ur AA gun over these, or when would you want to use these instead of ur AA gun?

[turbid dawn]

So double AA mounts I'm presuming want the 'carry' AA guns then?

[viscid swift]

they don't really compete to be honest
the 57 would be replacing the twin 90s you're using

[stoic ore]

yo so im new to this game started playing a week ago just seeing if anyone has any tips and should i be building as many ship as i can in the early game or wait and save cubes?

[hollow sail]

isn't the reload counted twice for the purposes of averaging it on the ships with 2x mounts?

[viscid swift]

I reccomend giving that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
also save your cubes, we have an event rerunning next week

[stoic ore]

ok thank you

[viscid swift]

not necessarily, you'd want the ship with the single strongest AA gun slot regardless of of the number of mounts to have the "carry" gun
which is basically slot efficiency*AA stat

I should also say when in like W15 you really don't want more than 1 sextuple/roomba in the fleet

[keen sable]

having two copies of a gun would enhance the bad qualities of a gun. On the other gun if the gun had good qualities it will enhance those such as range.

[keen sable]

do not use when you want offense...

[wispy pendant]

What’s the nickname for twin 90?

[viscid swift]

the twin 90

[hollow gust]

[eager mulch]

what other twin 90s are there

[forest palm]

PastAA 2.0

[wispy pendant]

I guess that’s it. I guess I wasn’t using twin 90’s much.

[night pumice]

are there any ships that are worth pulling for in the upcoming rerun (I think there's one?) or should I save cubes for a UR

[eager mulch]

Vanguard and indom

[night pumice]

oh next week is a UR rerun? huh

[little tree]

Isn't vanguard considered the best bb ship ?

[forest palm]

one of

[strange sphinx]

one of

[crimson glacier]

if i had to pick only one rainbow BB, it would be either musashi or zwei

[forest palm]

I wouldn't bother considering Musashi at all it's only Zwei

[eager mulch]

if I had to pick only one rainbow BB it would not be vanguard

[crimson glacier]

musashi for campaign clear

[forest palm]

a lot of shiny BB and gold BB can do that

[crimson glacier]

but they are nowhere near musashi

[night pumice]

is vanguard better than alsace or fdg? because I'm not sure if I have the cubes for her, and if she's not better than the options I have I'm not gonna bother pulling

[forest palm]

campaign isn't that high a bar

[crimson glacier]

well its harder than opsi

[forest palm]

about the same really

[crimson glacier]

and musashi is basically cheating in w15

[dawn hamlet]

I'm curious about that too

[forest palm]

either way you have Vanny, Alsace, Soyuz, Musashi, and Zwei

[tranquil saffron]

Can you please explain
If I shouldn't use the twin 57 then what should I use?

[crimson glacier]

fdg is better than vanguard on mob but vanguard is very good support for bosses

[forest palm]

why bother with FdG though

[strange sphinx]

hmmm does vanguard event have UR equipment?

[forest palm]

AFCT

basically HSFCR but better

[strange sphinx]

so that's what I'm looking for

The table

[night pumice]

is she not good?

[crimson glacier]

fdg is excellent mobbing BB

[forest palm]

FdG is still good, it's just the more URs you pile on to your collection she drops off

[eager mulch]

2nd AFCT

[dawn hamlet]

are we gonna get vanguard event too when she reruns?

[strange sphinx]

Aw man, Vanguard is the first UR I got before my former acc got hacked so I will try to het her

[night pumice]

ah. I have one UR and it's alsace so I guess she has her uses in my fleet

[dawn hamlet]

oh wait does that mean we're also getting one UR bullin in UR rerun too?

that's very nice, thanks for the info

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[glossy spear]

Is there a certain amount of time it should take me to reach chapter 9 of if I just started?

[eager mulch]

not particularly

depends how much time you dedicate to the game and how much you meta game

[glossy spear]

Ok

[bold salmon]

this good for w15?

[eager mulch]

no

[soft raft]

complete doo doo

[eager mulch]

not even complete doo doo it’s just doo doo

[elfin hollow]

is there a date for UR rerun

[forest palm]

18th

[copper glacier]

Are these worth the 300 price tag?

I have no idea how to read this map. Which zones should I tackle first? Green, red, or yellow?

[eager mulch]

anything that has a special symbol

ideally the exclamation point chat bubble first

[undone plover]

Red symbol is story
Do that first
turtle where opsi guide

[eager mulch]

otw (when I’m not working 50 hrs a week)

it’s started

[elfin hollow]

Thank you, do we have any idea who it is, thanks

[remote yarrow]

Vanguard

[elfin hollow]

Oh nice I don't have her

[eager mulch]

Vanguard

[elfin hollow]

Is there going to be a table too

[remote yarrow]

Yes

[elfin hollow]

Very nice

[undone plover]

How does recon work?
Does it check one fleet? Or both fleet stats matter?

[keen sable]

highest

[undone plover]

And how does it interact with acv
When as+ says it gives 8% reduced ambush rate what does that mean?

[keen sable]

8% reduced ambush means you will get ambushed. recon disables ambushes entirely

[fervent hearth]

Mona Lisa

[remote yarrow]

My dude, can you stop

Not only you already said this 3 times but you @'d me 3 times for the same boring joke

Thanks

[fervent hearth]

wow man you seemed cool at first guess not

[remote yarrow]

I'm guessing everyone else would not like getting @'d for nonsense but I guess I'm the asshole

[uncut oar]

This channel's for asking questions, if you wanna shitpost and ping people for said shitpost please don't complain about getting told off

[fervent hearth]

Ye mb I didn’t expect him to react in a cuck way

[inland shoal]

Can you stop?

A joke is fine, no need to blow it up this much tho

[sweet delta]

Make him

[calm rose]

Do we have mlb michita already?

[remote yarrow]

I think JP does

[calm rose]

We do? Guess i missed a day or smth

[forest palm]

you can make it 28 days under certain circumstances, but the usual is 29

[tranquil saffron]

I've got an mk7 already so should I go for a second mk7 or type 98 kai?

[forest palm]

there's no need for a type 98 kai

[undone plover]

Does new sandy replace guam/shimanto/laffey in 15 mob?

[calm rose]

Have been using sandy in my boss fleet, she prob doesnt replace any of those 3

[tranquil saffron]

What main fleet are you running with that?

[undone plover]

I ran soyuz uni volga pre sandy augment
Was just curious not rly asking for myself

[tranquil saffron]

I was asking for myself because I'm preparing for w15

[rocky fjord]

only shimanto fills that similar role

[stone sluice]

I used Laffey II, Sandy and Guam

[undone plover]

There is a /w15 command
Go read all of it
Better than what I can tell u
I started late and missed a lot of cracked ships
If u have musashi and aquila u want to run them instead

[rocky fjord]

shimanto's only up over sandy is her fire cleansing

ofc, maybe you could just use both across mob and boss

[tranquil saffron]

I've already read a decent chunk of that, that's why I'm currently leveling like 5 ships

[undone plover]

Good luck u got this

[warm flax]

Cleared 15-3 with this, am I good to go for 15-4?

Also everything is level 125

[rocky fjord]

some room to upgrade sub torps, backline rudders are quite bad

[viscid swift]

also, why are you using rudders on the main fleet when they're only needed for 15-2

JDA is also running 2 tool boxes and not a rudder, AA radar is a somewhat dubious choice for Sandy as is pearl tears on Guam

[calm rose]

You might want rudder+bulge for jda too, also give her the crossbow aux

[viscid swift]

just a lot of small baffling decisions all around

[kind needle]

Should I or skip?

[calm rose]

Skip

[viscid swift]

skip with that cube count

[warm flax]

Oh yeah

Maybe torp bulge on Guam and rudder on jda and Sandy?

[calm rose]

A single crossbow aug for each fleet is ideal

[warm flax]

I can do that

[calm rose]

Guam shimanto and jda uses rudder/torp bulge. I think you can manage this right?

[warm flax]

Light work

[calm rose]

Btw i see your indep has a +11 fighter. Gold plate priority is not on those fighters

[undone plover]

Laffey should also use elite maintenance manjuu
Unless there is some secret laffeyii rudder tech I am unaware of

[viscid swift]

also stick any gold plane in the TB slots on of your support fleet CVs

[warm flax]

Thanks

[uncut oar]

Elite maintenance manjuu? Where from?

[viscid swift]

momentos

[undone plover]

Collection
Yorktown class

[uncut oar]

The one that modifies airstrike timing?

[calm rose]

Nope, the one that makes u not sink for 8 seconds if EU ship

[uncut oar]

Oh. Damecon

[undone plover]

Oh god it happened again……

I cant get the name right ever

Elite DAMAGE CONTROL manjuu

[uncut oar]

I think I just hear it called manjuu

[spring bolt]

yellow chicken

[calm rose]

how do one even equip the airstrike timing manipulation aux on laff2

[uncut oar]

You sent me into a coughing fit dfg thanks

[spring bolt]

that's... literally what CN players calls manjuu... not a joke

[heady pier]

finally managed to develop her

[blissful hamlet]

is datamine up now

[soft raft]

check back in like 4-5 hours

[blissful hamlet]

[spring bolt]

CN maint starts in about 2 hours and 22 minutes, datamine is usually 2-3 hours after that

and if no datamine until 7 hours later, CN maint extends and i will die

i mean, i even emptied my research queue

[blissful hamlet]

should I finish my 49/50 3rd hinden gun or just move on with series 7

[whole crypt]

definitely

[viscid swift]

I'd finish at that point

[uncut oar]

Finish it, a day or 2 won't make or break anything

[calm rose]

Finish it up, its one print

[blissful hamlet]

definetly what?

[viscid swift]

you can afford to wait a few days

[whole crypt]

definitely yes

[blissful hamlet]

I just assume you mean finishing the prints

[whole crypt]

then you'll have 4 copies when gun goes to shop and no CAs to use them on

[viscid swift]

cope Napoli is dps I guess

[blissful hamlet]

imagine if napoli use CB or CL gun

[whole crypt]

well if Napoli doesn't turn out to be another PRake then you'll be having it on Hindenburg, Unzen and Napoli

[calm rose]

Shes a CA

[viscid swift]

Napoli is a a CA and her main gun is in this next wave, Triple 254mm

[blissful hamlet]

oh right

[warm flax]

Btw someone said back then that I can use the pr6 BB gun, how does that work

[viscid swift]

but so is her aux gun, Triple 152mm....
and Napoli is renowned in WoWs for her very potent secondaries

[eager mulch]

but her main guns in wows are bad

[blissful hamlet]

is that CL gun?

hinden powercreep

[whole crypt]

the PR6 triple 380 or something, is AP, and sidegrade of champagne gun

but yeh, either DPS or utility CA, because tank CA genre is basically dead

and if DPS it has to be at least comparable to Hindenburg or fill niches that Hindenburg doesn't

[viscid swift]

well, I wouldn't bet on the last one in the case of Napoli, I'll just leave it at that

[blissful hamlet]

[whole crypt]

I'm not saying she'll be a tank, just saying that genre is dead

[blissful hamlet]

maybe she's a tank that does something else like guam

[forest palm]

I'm just coping Daisen's good is actually good

[calm rose]

u meant gun?

[worldly pewter]

is this for me ??

[undone plover]

gathering data for future reference , maybe... maybe not

[whole crypt]

then it'll still be the extra utility that floats her, CA tank just doesn't fly anymore compared to CBs

[spring bolt]

im more curious about what plane slot would the devs put on the new DD

[forest palm]

the cope really is that Musashi gets a buff thanks to Daisen's gun, and Enterprise will be buffed yet again by the new UR Plane

[whole crypt]

cope for fighter, but likely seaplane

[viscid swift]

they did mention that the new Bearcat was a seaplane
and that's Halford's signiture plane

[stuck coyote]

hi~ is that entirely new gear in the upcoming gear lab?

[calm rose]

Yes its pr7, research, not gear lab

[whole crypt]

float type bearcat, but was it on any of the patchnotes specifying seaplane?

[viscid swift]

let me double check

[whole crypt]

and even within seaplanes they're split anyway

[warm flax]

Halford uses planes?

[soft raft]

This specific version of her yes

[whole crypt]

if I remember correctly some of the tenders can't use the full suite of seaplanes

[soft raft]

IRL she didnt use sea planes outside of a brief experiment
in WoWs she's equipped with her sea plane configuration

[viscid swift]

no, Halford in WoWs has a completely fictitious armament of Floatplane Bearcats

[whole crypt]

or might have been the BBVs

[undone plover]

this is EN patch notes

[whole crypt]

yeh but it doesn't explicitly say it's a seaplane, though chances are it is

[calm rose]

Youre thinking its a fighter? Just the picture is a seaplane?

[whole crypt]

I'm thinking it's a seaplane but there's still a slim chance it could be a fighter if you want to cope for halford's slot to fit more than seaplanes

[spring bolt]

or they just give her a seaplane/fighter slot

[whole crypt]

copium either way

[spring bolt]

and 🍝

[viscid swift]

all I can say is that's it

[whole crypt]

but 🍝 is just normal AL

is it literally a bearcat with floats riveted in below

[soft raft]

How dead is the Tiny Tim copium

[whole crypt]

wait for datamine to see plane count, slot eff and skills I guess

[slow fox]

thanks nnktt when datamine

[viscid swift]

4-5 hours off still at least

[whole crypt]

why me I'm not a miner and not on CN

[slow fox]

I like to keep my datamine pipeline at least four degrees of separation off.

[blissful hamlet]

is this halford plane?

[viscid swift]

yes

[blissful hamlet]

[calm rose]

u own an halford?

[whole crypt]

I mean I can probably get myself a proper CN account, I'm actually registered and confirmed on bili

[viscid swift]

no, but I do have access to the armory

[sinful elk]

Chat what stage is the best to farm exp for PR

[whole crypt]

but I'm not getting around into the datamining stuff

[blissful hamlet]

w12

[whole crypt]

ch12 is basically the answer to all XP-related problems

[sinful elk]

Why w12 though 🤔

[whole crypt]

do you have a reason to want to do anywhere else

[sinful elk]

Idk i usually do the farming in w13

[whole crypt]

I mean you can, it's just harder and less XP/oil

[sinful elk]

[whole crypt]

getting more XP per fight or morale isn't really that useful, you can finish CDC2 in 3 days regardless if you bother

[keen sable]

12+

[elfin hollow]

Will there be a ur on this next event

[soft raft]

There is no event
though there will be a UR rerun next week

[elfin hollow]

Whats the Ur rerun

[soft raft]

also if we really were gonna have a UR event, 1) we would've had a stream ast week and 2) there would be significant more amounts of hype

[elfin hollow]

Vanguard?

[sinful elk]

Vanguard right

[whole crypt]

VG

[soft raft]

Vanguard yes

[elfin hollow]

Isnt it also the ur fire control

[whole crypt]

yes AFCT

[elfin hollow]

I already have vanguard so Imma get it

[forest palm]

someone throw the M Wichita template fleets

[steady beacon]

Give me about a day

[forest palm]

not that the actual fleets used for the fights

[whole crypt]

https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=40597727&_fp=7

[spring bolt]

these?

[forest palm]

there we go

thanks

[whole crypt]

are those the same ones as on nga?

hm mob fleet fell short of killing BB abyssal without full adapts...

[spring bolt]

almost same, i believe

[sweet delta]

Is the BB fleet meant to 4 salvo?

[steady beacon]

Yes

[spring bolt]

yes

[sweet delta]

I use 3 salvo

[whole crypt]

4-strike comps are pretty cope though

[steady beacon]

3-salvo on 2 scans?

[whole crypt]

that's the usual isn't it

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message 2 scans often kills, sometimes doesn't

[sharp socket]

does max enhanced in wiki mean +13 or +10

[steady beacon]

Fascinating
Ah, your diff is Ply

[sweet delta]

It means maximum enhanced

Which is +13 for gear that can go to +13

[sharp socket]

what about max stats

[whole crypt]

10

[forest palm]

[sharp socket]

alright thanks

[whole crypt]

or up to 10, lower if blue

[sweet delta]

Max stats includes all rarity levels of gear, and gear is enhanced to the highest level that doesn't change the coefficient

Max rarity is the same but with only the highest rarity version of each

[sweet delta]

But then this definition doesn't work for auxes so idk
It's probably some hardcoded thing in wiki

[jaunty vault]

so you just made it up

[steady beacon]

What are the odds of the vanguard surviving to fourth rotation to clean up the remains if 3-salvo isn't enough

[jaunty vault]

why harbin

[calm rose]

Smoke, makes your vanguard more tanky

[sweet delta]

Smoking is good for their health

[jaunty vault]

but Tobacco causes cancer

[sweet delta]

Someone survived to kear last airstrike like 3 out of 16 times, and someone survived even longer to the BB fourth salvo like 1 out of 16. But it's not actually out of 16 because it was only if 3 strikes didn't kill

[steady beacon]

[jaunty vault]

poggies

now i just need to finish raising my alsace

[sharp socket]

my vanguard sometimes lives to timeout about 50% of the time

[calm rose]

Whats your cl reload tech?

[sweet delta]

25

[calm rose]

Thats maxed right?

[jaunty vault]

/wiki max cl reload tech

[proud vector]

Was this worth to make for Battleship AA gun?

[loud rover]

no, any main fleet AA ahould be staag or hazemeyer

[steady beacon]

Currently so, ye

[soft raft]

Not at all
Unless you really really really really really really want to use North Carolina and you made her unique aug for some reason

[sweet delta]

It's worth only for North Carolina augmented, and North Carolina augmented is likely not worth

[proud vector]

Ok

Try get more rainbow aa gun but is slow

[sharp socket]

you can use bofors staag

i think unicorn preload and my crossfleet is reducing xp gain to my cdc farming vanguard