gameplay-help

[forest palm]

someone was on some shit making world 9 maps

[glossy spear]

What does PR1-PR5 and DR mean?

[novel solstice]

The lab ships have "seasons" 1-5, and are either gold (PR) or rainbow (DR) rarity.

[plain saffron]

Imo yes but i can't make the decisions

[novel solstice]

When you do a research, it is labelled with what season it comes from, which tells you what ships are in the pool of blueprints it might give (and what gear, if it gives gear prints).

[eternal moth]

1-6*

[glossy spear]

Ok I may not have gotten that far because I have zero clue what research is

[steady beacon]

At the behest of someone who could concoct a viable scenario better, I can report that Laffey's disappearing act DOES work in PvP
If you can figure out a way to make it work usefully, though, please let me know

[whole crypt]

you won't get to deal with it until I think commander level 30 or so, even then in early game you don't really have any much resources to work with it or to bother worrying about it

[eternal moth]

It's not recommended to worry about research until you reach 9-1

[agile sky]

when the new PR series drop, will the shop drop the PR4 pack that lets u instantly MLB one PR4 ship?

[silk helm]

i think so according to #game-news

[plain saffron]

Yes

[wind hazel]

newbie p2w anchorage

[frank pulsar]

new players have it good 😔
back in my day there was no coining for pr4

[remote yarrow]

being able to p2w Anchor

[silk helm]

okay grandpa

[fresh tangle]

Does that mean you can basically skip Portland?

[wind hazel]

well no

[frank pulsar]

you still need her for rookie missions

and ancho is just one tank, you need 2

[fresh tangle]

Ah yeah rookie missions. Forgot about those

[steady beacon]

Back in my day, there was no coining for PR2

[stark quiver]

rookie missions?

[forest palm]

the red tab on the top left of the main UI

[silk helm]

how long has pr4 been out?

[sweet delta]

You thought wrong, 9-2 followed by 9-1 are the worst for 2 fleets

9-3
Number of sorties: 50000
Avg mob battles per sortie: 5.697
Avg oil cost: 214.20
chance for Small    4.52%
chance for Medium  37.61%
chance for Large   57.87%
Avg base exp/oil per ship: 19.479
    split 13.996 for mob, 5.483 for boss
chance for 5 mobs:  39.06%
chance for 6 mobs:  52.22%
chance for 7 mobs:   8.72%```

[steady beacon]

Fascinating

[sweet delta]

now refund my 10 million oil

[steady beacon]

July 2021 so coming on 3 years

[viscid swift]

Take that up with Nahkimov

[sage nebula]

How much reload does vanguard get thru enhancement? Like if you didn't enhance her reload at all and leveled her to 125, what would her reload be?

[silk helm]

hopefully i can p2w pr7 in 2027 then

[keen sable]

48 possible reload. but it's silly not to enhance fp at all

[dusk maple]

is there a rainbow prints pity? I've gotten 1 ply gun prints after every 1 week of not getting any.

[sage nebula]

Never mentioned not enhancing fp

[viscid swift]

Not that I'm aware of

[dusk maple]

Hmmm

[viscid swift]

Well you can't enhance just her FP though

[keen sable]

doesn't matter whether you mentioned it or not. -48 reload from no enhance is only possible if you don't enhance firepower

[steady beacon]

Low RLD Vanguard attempt spotted

[viscid swift]

Everything but CVs give FP and reload enhancement and CVs only give reload for enhancing Vanguard

[tender lotus]

Any guide for fleet tech?

[sage nebula]

Good to know

[hollow gust]

BB: HIT FP RLD
CV: RLD HIT AVI
Vanguard : FP HIT RLD TORP

[tender lotus]

Okay noted thx

[stark quiver]

does retrofitting a ship count towards collection

[remote yarrow]

I think it does

[stark quiver]

bruh

[loud rover]

should i build chkalov after gascogne (building her for the +2 rld tech) to prep for nhakimov? i think my only NP main fleet is gangut

[remote yarrow]

No Soyuz?

[eternal moth]

Wait until tomorrow to find out what the requirements are. They may be able to use a second faction you have more of

[hollow gust]

you are not going for pr7 either way lmaoo

[loud rover]

i stopped playing a little bit after UvH rerun and came back to the game somewhere in the second half of may

[silk helm]

says the new player

[hollow gust]

we shall see with my dev 30 nyakimov in 2 months

[eternal moth]

If you REALLY think he's new you need to pay better attention

[hollow gust]

actually no 3 months, not rushing this year

[silk helm]

haha i know. i'm going to change my name to (veteran player)

[remote yarrow]

He's the oldest new player

[loud rover]

crap i probably wont get pr7 for a while. plymouth only d14 and i only have 1 ply gun. then i need kear or hinden from pr6 and a couple hinden guns. ughhhhh

[little tree]

To dev 30 fast does it require the Cube Reaserch to do it?

[eternal moth]

I'm trying to decide who to research first. I'm tempted to go 🐈

[remote yarrow]

Yes, and it's really costly

[hollow gust]

i got kearsarge done in 63 days, i was 600 cubes deep

[eternal moth]

My gacha luck is too bad recently to do that, unfortunately.

[shell willow]

even with 600 cubes it took that long

[hollow gust]

i was super slow compared to CN, i swear they have boosted rates

[eternal moth]

I'm down to 1k cubes, and want to make sure I don't get screwed on another event

[remote yarrow]

63 days is way faster than more than 90

[silk helm]

how fast does cn do it

[hollow gust]

more like 100+

[hollow gust]

i saw a dev 30 kearsarge a weak before mine

[silk helm]

[little tree]

Coining Dev 30 wont take nearly as long correct?

[eternal moth]

You can't coin PR7 off the bat

[shell willow]

depends on how much coin u spend daily

[little tree]

I need FDG so im going for her and Brest atm

[eternal moth]

If you mean for earlier seasons, then yes

[silk helm]

fdg will take longer cuz dr is more expensive

[hollow gust]

did u skip 4?

[little tree]

Long story

[silk helm]

i did lolll and now i can p2w it

[hollow gust]

no you cant?

[remote yarrow]

If you coin FdG from scratch it should take you about 36 or 37 days if you do 10 per day and if you did her catchup, for Dev 30 ofc

[hollow gust]

the best ships in that season are literally the DRs

[viscid swift]

You know you can only get one ticket right for each season?

[silk helm]

i can p2w anchorage

[little tree]

~~ i have 50 BP not sure if that counts~~

[viscid swift]

And you still need to get gear, and do the DRs

[remote yarrow]

Guess you aren't getting enough for 2 Tenrais if you spend less time on PR4

[silk helm]

well agir will take a while right?

[hollow gust]

agir should only take around 2 months to dev 30 even without cubes

[remote yarrow]

You might get 50bps if you do Haku's Fs5 I think

[loud rover]

brest worth getting (already have guam, agir, and ancho) or should head to pr6 after getting d30 plymouth and a second ply gun?

[remote yarrow]

If you don't maybe you will need to stay a little longer? Since you are buying Anchor

[soft raft]

Yee she is

[silk helm]

ah well i do intent on finishing pr4 i just dont have the tech for anchorage, mp, haku sooo

[viscid swift]

You may as well finish her at that point

[silk helm]

only got the ib tech for avp and agir

[viscid swift]

And at this rate it's likely you'll be off to PR7 not PR6 first

[loud rover]

but i dont have any hinden guns

[whole crypt]

why rush PR7 ships when you'll end up being stuck farming La-9s

[viscid swift]

The new UR gear is a rocket fighter

[remote yarrow]

It is?

[hollow gust]

enty getting buffed again, such a based ship

[viscid swift]

Yes

[little tree]

Are these farmable in any way or just gotten thru events ?

[loud rover]

until we get told its for light armor

[hollow gust]

so?

[viscid swift]

It is HE rockets so

[remote yarrow]

Any stats? Or did they just said it was gonna be a Rocket

[silk helm]

wait how is enty getting buffed

[whole crypt]

wait for datamine

[soft raft]

not farmable
those are mainly freebies

[viscid swift]

Just said it was rockets and I say HE because that's what the rockets carried by the planes in WoWs are

[hollow gust]

it just cements eagle on light

[whole crypt]

Enterprise's skill scales directly on better gear damage, every time there is gear that improves her damage it scales on her skill

[remote yarrow]

It's a joke that everytime something new that Enterprise can use is good it's a buff for her

[soft raft]

Owarida intensifies

[silk helm]

[remote yarrow]

AP Skip bombers when

[viscid swift]

New gun for Musashi as well new TB and a new Rocket Sea Plane

Point is there's a lot of potential for this upcoming season

[whole crypt]

any idea if 410MkA will be AP or HE based on WoWs?

[hollow gust]

eww halford is gonna be a seaboat dd, why not just give her the fubuki treatment

[viscid swift]

Kind of a toss up, I'd bet on AP though

[whole crypt]

if it's AP it's just a better gun for 14/15 though

[soft raft]

So it's basically her equivalent to Georgia gun

[viscid swift]

Potentially

[whole crypt]

then again unless we get an IJN triple HE that will never change

[soft raft]

Had my hopes up that it'd be a viable HE gun that could sync with others for her but alas that was copium from the start since it's twin barrel

[whole crypt]

I'm more curious if floatbearcat will have any better use on Chen Hai if it's really a seaplane

[eager mulch]

datamine tmrw?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[eager mulch]

so 24+ hrs from now and not a couple hours from now right?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[eager mulch]

ok cool i have to work early tmrw morning nice that I don’t have to stay up for datamine tn

[remote yarrow]

Good night?

[eager mulch]

gn I have to wake up in 7 hrs for a 7 hr shift

[silk helm]

[forest palm]

Centaur, and Leipzig are getting augments, right?

[left cedar]

i cant w8 to see "Tactical Command: Cruisers" buffed and get a shit barrage

[whole crypt]

all par for the course

[tired condor]

is san siego retrofit good

[remote yarrow]

Really good, but also really expensive

[tired condor]

better than plymouth?

[remote yarrow]

I don't think so? I don't remember how good her dmg is with her Unique Augment

But also do you mean better than Ply as a whole or what?

[tired condor]

damage

[glossy spear]

What should I do with excess coins?

[cloud fractal]

Sub Help

[whole crypt]

Plymouth should still be the top damage CL, as well as added damage support for flag BB, there's basically no competition

[whole crypt]

LB ships, retrofits

[remote yarrow]

Also define excess coins

[whole crypt]

also upgrading canteen/merchant

[remote yarrow]

Cuz like 20k over your cap isn't that much

[whole crypt]

you should still be rather new so the coin cap is very low, the coin disappears rather quickly once you spend

[glossy spear]

What stages give t1 blueprints?

[remote yarrow]

All of them

[whole crypt]

hard mode, depends on type you need

[glossy spear]

Oh you have to do hard mode

[glossy spear]

I’m trying to get carrier ones right now

[remote yarrow]

Wait what stage are you?

[whole crypt]

yes, it's just a harder version of the exact same map, with entry requirements

[glossy spear]

Not high 3-2

[remote yarrow]

How do you have excess coins in 3-2

[glossy spear]

Idk

[whole crypt]

x-1 drops DD, x-2 cruisers, x-3 BBs and x-4 CV, so pick the map based on what you need

[remote yarrow]

What's your fleet btw? Have you tried limitbreaking them?

[whole crypt]

but you'll probably quickly run out of coins from enhancing gear and LBing ships

[glossy spear]

Right now I’m focusing on limiting breaking unicorn but here’s my fleet

[soft raft]

if you're trying to get below your soft cap to claim from your HQ building, no real need to

[glossy spear]

Oh yeah that’s what I was trying to do

[remote yarrow]

Yeah.... I wouldn't bother spending coins in other stuff that isn't your fleet rn

[whole crypt]

get some prints and start putting retrofits on Unicorn and Portland

[remote yarrow]

Keep in mind only Hardmode Stage 3 and above drops Gold retrofit BPs

[soft raft]

Yeah dont
the actual coin cap is 600k and your main source of gold income is from grinding maps anyways so the HQ building is pretty inconsequential in the long run where you'd want to generally have at least 100-200k coins saved in bank

[whole crypt]

also the coin cap isn't a hard cap so you can continue to store coins earned from commissions and sorties, you just can't collect merchant

particularly for low level merchant you don't really lose a lot of coins anyway

[glossy spear]

Thank you very much for all the help

[cloud fractal]

When someone gets a chance, if they could look over my subs and tell me if there’s a certain combo that I’m supposed to be operating with, it’d be appreciated… I posted a thread!

[remote yarrow]

For now I would say don't worry about your coins,keep pushing campaign and limit breaking your ships, for portland you can get copies of her from guild shop if you want

[cloud fractal]

Honestly, I’m still struggling with coins. I made it to Chapter 11 so it’s not as terrible, but I’m still burning coins ridiculously quickly. I imagine once you have some fleets put together and fully leveled it slows down and you can accumulate.

[sweet delta]

I burn 30k+ coins a day

[whole crypt]

if you just reached ch11 don't worry about subs

[remote yarrow]

I used 60k today awakening ships

How important is 125 for Harbiter? I just noticed my AvP is the only 120 on my CV fleet
and she only has 300k exp banked

[cloud fractal]

I didn’t just reach it. I’ve been lazy about continuing, though I should have continued to 12 for the chips lol. I turned most of my focus to farming cdc for FdG who I finally completed and am leveling rapidly. I’ll probably push to 12 tonight.

[remote yarrow]

If you don't even have FdG I wouldn't bother with Subs tbh

[cloud fractal]

I do now. She just awakened past 100

[remote yarrow]

Cuz you probably don't have many BBs for mobbing

[steady beacon]

Not the end of the world if you are not aiming to min-max

I mean... if I'm not wrong, Arbiter came before the 125 cap did it not? (edit: Nope, Arbiter came slightly after 125 cap, mb)

[remote yarrow]

And FdG is one of the best ones for W14+ which is when you actually use Subs

[whole crypt]

you don't really need subs until 13 or 14

and they're shit to level in actual stages anyway so just be ready to XP pack them

[remote yarrow]

For now just throw the ones we told you into your dorm

[cloud fractal]

I’m actually okay on them. NJ, Alsace, Biscuit, Penn, Hood (that’s a BC though).

Yep, I did. Not really interested in doing much with them right now. Just slotting stuff for soon since most of my stuff is making the final push to either 120 or 125.

[remote yarrow]

last 2 won't have much use in W14 I think and idk how good NJ is for mobbing

Also I'm surprised you got over 700 ships but not many of them seem strong do you not retire or limit break at all or what

[whole crypt]

if that's OG Bismarck that's 🚮

if it's BisZwei then alongside NJ and Alsace they're enough for pushing on, assuming MLB

[cloud fractal]

She was leveled with Graf and Peter for FdG farm. Who has now created 100 as well.

She’s been abandoned lol

[whole crypt]

doesn't mean she's worth using for 13+

[cloud fractal]

Oh hell no. Sacrifice for FdG.

[whole crypt]

but if she's already 100 then awaken her for tech I guess

[cloud fractal]

She’s 113. I’ll probably finish her eventually, but imma let her go for now.

[cloud fractal]

I don’t waste the coins. But yeah. Hypothetically, I have a crap ton of stuff that can be MLBd. But there’s only so many resources available in a day/sitting/oil.

[remote yarrow]

Well that could've been fixed if you pushed to W12 instead of staying in W11

[cloud fractal]

Easily distracted. And that sticker was massive

[remote yarrow]

Stickers are massive that's why we don't use them

[cloud fractal]

Is there another spike between 12 and 11? The guide only indicates that there’s a spike at 11 and that chips are the primary reason to be at 12. I have a butt ton of chips, so I figured I could sit at 11.

[steady beacon]

Difficulty spike? Not really, just paradigm shift to planes

[whole crypt]

if you're reading the ectl guide it's kind of old

[remote yarrow]

Isn't W11 harder than W12?

[steady beacon]

But the coin returns and especially the cogs make 12 generally more attractive than 11 for all but pure exp/oil ratio

[whole crypt]

ch12 is a different threat than ch11, but general gameplay wise it's easier

[eternal moth]

You THINK you have a lot of chips. You don't.

[zinc turret]

idk about w11 but w10 yes , nagato scary when she angry

[balmy matrix]

What gun should I use for CA that only can use dd gun? I mean the secondary

[remote yarrow]

~~I wish they removed it from /guide but I'm too lazy to #1020044605053476994 ~~

[whole crypt]

most people don't realize they're short of chips until they actually level fodder

[eternal moth]

Rainbow

[remote yarrow]

🌈

[balmy matrix]

Can I use dd main gun guide?

[whole crypt]

for CA secondary guns just check tier list gear rec

I don't think you have enough guns to be prioritizing using the shiny ones

[balmy matrix]

None rainbow

[cloud fractal]

It’s the cog array chips that I don’t have a lot of. The regular ones I have lots of right now. But yeah. I haven’t leveled fodder, so I haven’t used them except for my priority ships so far.

[finite crag]

out of curiosity how many cog chips?

[whole crypt]

we're talking about chips, not arrays
super lategame players have excess arrays after they're done with leveling the shit needed for meta
but we run out of chips for awakening fodder

[cloud fractal]

25,000 still. I haven’t dipped below 20,000 at any point so far.

[remote yarrow]

Honestly that's nothing considering you haven't started leveling fodder

[finite crag]

yea

[whole crypt]

my highest point was 6 digits

[shell willow]

coin is way more of a bottleneck for me than chips

[whole crypt]

then oilcap happened

[finite crag]

you want to stock up on as many chips as possible, when you actually need them youll be glad you stocked up

[whole crypt]

I am holding 16k now because waiting for PR7

during most of the year it's probably closer to 1k

and that's with buying chips

[shell willow]

are you raising everything for tech?

[whole crypt]

at this point I'm raising everything for shits and giggles

[cloud fractal]

I’m not doubting what y’all are saying. It’s all been great info, so there’s no argument from me. I’m just still catching up and because I’m chronically working on 2 or more ships at a time, I’m consistently bottlenecked by the coins. So it’s really just me not prioritizing well, which is why I have all the excess chips and stuff. (And still not w12 lol @remote yarrow )

[whole crypt]

most of the useful tech is already done, I'm not prioritizing any particular tech anymore

at least not until they release mroe main fleet RLD/HIT

[finite crag]

alot of these issues can be somewhat alleviated if you move onto w12

[shell willow]

there is a lot to spend coins on, so its not necessarily you prioritizing badly

[whole crypt]

yeh midgame is a massive coin sink

everything costs coins

[cloud fractal]

Well, I’m probably going to have to dodge out of the chat because one of you will likely punch me for fully retro’ing Sandy so early 😂

Talk about a coin sink

[finite crag]

your choice

[whole crypt]

we've seen worse

[viscid swift]

People really overestimate the difficulty of W12

[eternal moth]

With her augment it's far less bad a decision

[cloud fractal]

Yeah I have it.

[whole crypt]

like at least San Diego's retrofit is good, even if it's expensive

[remote yarrow]

though 80k before W12 kinda hurts

[eternal moth]

I'd say retrofitting Warspite is a far worse option at this point

[cloud fractal]

I have her, and I want to real bad.

[whole crypt]

or just any fodder ship out there, even if cheaper they're practically useless

[viscid swift]

Well it was even before Sandy's augment

[remote yarrow]

Don't bother she's a huge dissapointment

[cloud fractal]

But someone pointed out that I spent 60k plus on Sandy and I was like oh. Whoops.

So now I’m leery to do it.

[eternal moth]

I used her quite a bit, but that was also before the advent of any rainbow BBs but NJ

[soft raft]

Sandy retrofit isn't a oops if done at the appropriate time

Warspite retrofit is a oops no matter where your progression is while you're still pushing content

[sweet delta]

Some people (not naming names) like sushigummy used warspite so much that she has 4.09m exp stored

[cloud fractal]

That was what everyone was saying. It wasn’t a bad choice just a questionable time. Because I retro’d her at W6.

[hollow gust]

Only?

[stark quiver]

"only"

[remote yarrow]

isn't the cap 3m tho

[sweet delta]

Show me your warspite with 5 million stored

[remote yarrow]

Am I missing a joke or something

[sweet delta]

No, there's no joke

[remote yarrow]

Wait what

[sweet delta]

No cap

[stone sluice]

Whut

[steady beacon]

Truly no cap
Even exp cap is a lie

[sweet delta]

👴

[remote yarrow]

I'm guessing they introduced the 3m exp cap after that

[stark quiver]

actually 👴

[steady beacon]

Also, ASW plane in aux slot 1, based

[remote yarrow]

I don't get it

[hard mesa]

Exp overhaul when 125 1st introduced

[sweet delta]

I mean asw plane cant go in aux slot 2

[icy mountain]

hm, so sandy uses low cd guns

[sweet delta]

She can use low cd guns, but mogador gun is her strongest gun currently

[icy mountain]

thought she uses high damaging guns like mog gun

oh nvm then

[viscid swift]

When 125 was added the xp needed to go from 100 to 120 was reduced

[icy mountain]

so should i do twin 100 kai or 457?

[uncut oar]

Not the other mog gun though (155 kai), she specifically wants DD guns

[remote yarrow]

Is the bug still present?

Or is it just the way it is?

Small indie company

[steady beacon]

Do people really call Mogami gun "Mog gun"

[whole crypt]

4.09M is just old 120cap moment

[wary timber]

So if one dosent have the mogador gun.... what's the next best option? The 100mm kai ?

[whole crypt]

I don't see mogami gun being referred to as mogami gun very much, the gun existed before mogami was added to the game and you basically never use it on her

[hard mesa]

i thoght its belgun

[eternal moth]

There was testing done, and it was found that Sandy's aug is fine as long as she's fighting a single target. It MIGHT bug out if she kills something in the middle of a barrage and switches target

[steady beacon]

"Bel gun" is cursed

[whole crypt]

it's called belgun because back in the day belfast loved it for being the only semiusable HE CL gun

[eternal moth]

Find me a video of her barrage screwing up at any other time.

[uncut oar]

get Belfast to develop better tastes in guns tbh

[whole crypt]

technically her favourite gun now is guichen gun

[uncut oar]

Guichen gun?

[wary timber]

Isn't the best option now the 152mm prototype that u can build in gear labs too

[sweet delta]

#known-bugs message

[wary timber]

..unless u have that gold French gun that's only available in an event

[blissful hamlet]

does the bug make her worse or better?

[sweet delta]

/wiki 1930 h

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(Mle_1930_HE)

[steady beacon]

Triple 152mm Mle 1930
Event CL HE gun from uh
What's it called
Fool's Scales

Soon to be known also as the "Bayard gun", probably

[eternal moth]

You're the one that posted it, you can't just give me the video?

[wary timber]

I won't lie it's design looks very French to me

[blissful hamlet]

what you mean the research gun is the same as that gun?

[steady beacon]

No

[sweet delta]

#bug-reports message

[steady beacon]

It's not a PR7 gun
Just that Bayard's WoWs main gun is precisely that gun

[blissful hamlet]

:ranchSexCalm:

[soft raft]

Iirc it's a different year model but it's essentially the same caliber and etc

[viscid swift]

The new 152 is Napoli's secondary gun

[soft raft]

Ah

[blissful hamlet]

how you know?

[viscid swift]

Because I have her in WoWs among other things

[wispy pendant]

If you were 8 BP away from a 5th ply gun, would you stay till it was finished or change to pr7?

[uncut oar]

I'm embarrassed for not knowing about Guichen gun because that was the first event I skipped out on during hiatus

[viscid swift]

Good ship

[eternal moth]

So as I said, her barrage is screwed up when switching targets

[blissful hamlet]

I thought the patchnotes mentioned the faction or something

[uncut oar]

<--- never got past t4 in wows

[soft raft]

Until we know more about PR7 in detail, try to get those 8 BPs

[eternal moth]

I specifically said there was no issue on a single target

[sweet delta]

Her barrage is screwed up at all times not depending on the enemy

[remote yarrow]

Isn't it screwed when shooting her second gun?

[steady beacon]

... We can extrapolate from knowing which guns belong to who

... I should have included that detail in the patch notes summary, actually
Not that you'd have read it anyway, serenity

[sweet delta]

And my video shows that on the same target as well

[blissful hamlet]

:ranchSexCalm:

pilica knows what I'm saying

[steady beacon]

... This is why we PvPers are outcasts tbh

[wary timber]

Hmm looking at the new PR Russian CV ... aren't we gonna get a new DP gun

[remote yarrow]

I thought it was a reference to a certain song

[noble tulip]

Hinden is fair

[viscid swift]

No

[sweet delta]

#trophy-room is that way

[blissful hamlet]

is it normal for alsace to do that low of damage

[sweet delta]

What's a DP gun

[calm rose]

Dual purpose gun

[steady beacon]

Dual Purpose I'm guessing

[wary timber]

Dual purpose gun

[blissful hamlet]

what's dual purpose gun

[noble tulip]

+10 geo gun ig

[viscid swift]

No quad 130mm for you

[hard mesa]

itd be suprising if we get the DD gun instead

[eternal moth]

Gun that can target ships or planes

[sweet delta]

Don't we already have that in game?

[calm rose]

Its quad. Quad barrel 130mm nvm read wrongly

[sweet delta]

/wiki type 3 shell

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_410mm_(Type_3_Shell)

[whole crypt]

as a matter of technicality all guns can target planes and ships, it's just a matter of whether you can hit it

[blissful hamlet]

confeti gun good

[plain saffron]

It's dp usually dd gun

[glossy spear]

is there any way to increase the 3 a day limit for hard mode or is that it?

[remote yarrow]

That's it, welcome to hard mode

[wary timber]

Ah yes the most useless BB gun ever to try and deal 0 shelling damage

[plain saffron]

/wiki dual purpose

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

[glossy spear]

oh

[whole crypt]

/wiki 127mm

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/127mm_AA_Type_89
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_127mm_(5"/38_Mk_38)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Single_127mm_(5"/38_Mk_30)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_127mm_(Type_3)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Single_127mm_(SK_C/34)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_127mm_AA_(Type_89_A1_Mod_2)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_127mm_(KM40)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Single_127mm_(5"/38_Mk_21)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_127mm_(5"/38_Mk_32)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Single_127mm_(Type_3_Mod_B)

Jul 10, 2024, 5:07 AM

[remote yarrow]

If wiki says so it doesn't exist

[eternal moth]

We know what guns we're getting. And Leipzig and Centaur augments

[sweet delta]

/wiki dp

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(6"/47_Mk_17_DP_Prototype)

[viscid swift]

No

[whole crypt]

just aim higher

[little tree]

Is there any diffreance between the 2 aux slots or they exactly the same?

[south sequoia]

Exactly the same

[plain saffron]

Quite a few

[sweet delta]

They're exactly the same except on specific ships like warspite

[wary timber]

I never understood why they added that 410mm gun that exclusively fires type 3 shells

[steady beacon]

Bizarre historical quirk

[remote yarrow]

And also cuz devs wanted to

[steady beacon]

There are actually quite a few strange things in the game that are explained by "bizarre historical quirk"

[whole crypt]

poorly implemented mechanic, like time-fuse AA

[wary timber]

Just ... add a type 3 shell into the game like your type 91 APs ....

[viscid swift]

anyway #game-feedback that way

[whole crypt]

it's technically not even historically accurate because the type-3s were basically fireworks and barely scratched planes in practice

[steady beacon]

So... just like in-game then

[whole crypt]

you can actually damage planes in-game, if you hit

[steady beacon]

Can you shoot them down?

Hilarious

The IJN could have used that magic IRL, then

[south sequoia]

[strong tartan]

Datamine out tmr right

Thx

[tulip zenith]

When does pr7 come out

[whole crypt]

"tomorrow"

[zinc turret]

soon ™️

[remote yarrow]

After next maintenance which is in 25:30 hrs

[plain saffron]

Tomorrow

[tulip zenith]

Epic

[zinc turret]

wait , today MT ?

[plain saffron]

Tomorrow

[tulip zenith]

July 11

[remote yarrow]

I literally said in 25 hrs

[plain saffron]

You made it sounds like maint ends in 25h

[remote yarrow]

Hmmmm I guess I did

[tulip zenith]

Is there gonna be any new pr1 augments

[plain saffron]

Nope

[tulip zenith]

Rip

Also with sovetsky soyuz would it be good to use chkalov and kron

Or is the faction buff insignificant

[vale spindle]

insignificant

[tulip zenith]

Ok thx

[vale spindle]

you can pair her with chkalov and kron cause both are good ships not necessarily cause they are russian

[sweet delta]

Is samval for little academy dead?

[vale spindle]

it will come out after next maint

[remote yarrow]

In any case here's the timer for maintenance start <t:1720681200:R>

[sweet delta]

Here is alvitr boss DPS, all with +13 triple AP gun and +10 black white, considering that rupp gets some secondary guns and torps blocked and alvitr loses some boomerang spears and alvitr red skill is level 9

[vale spindle]

warspite good pogu

[remote yarrow]

Doing less dmg than Warspite Warspite good or Alvitr bad

[zinc turret]

alvitr bad

[sweet delta]

Please refer to this Samvaluation for warspite

[remote yarrow]

Samvaluation ™️ ?

[cloud fractal]

Did we just coin a term for ship evals done by Sam?

[remote yarrow]

Huh? Sam himself calls them samvaluations is not a new term

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/samvaluation

[steady beacon]

All these years later, I'm still not sure if there's a pun in there I missed

[frank pulsar]

warkai actually pulled ahead of ruppy

ig i overestimated ruppy

[dusk maple]

underestimated spoot

[frank pulsar]

ive used spoot all the time back in the day and she was pretty disappointing

[gusty olive]

Justice for Warspoot

[hollow gust]

Yeah cause you are a newbie

[frank pulsar]

ive tried her out before with +13 stuff and she still disappointing

[hollow gust]

Maybe it's because warspite retrofit is older then your account by at least years

[signal pollen]

How do I re order my fleet so Helena stop tanking

[hollow gust]

[stark quiver]

go to a blue port(idk if that is one), order, fleet formation, then change as u like

[signal pollen]

oh thanks. I thought I reordered it but it turns out I didn't.

[blissful hamlet]

click on the fleet icon on the minimap

[sweet delta]

And then drag the ship as usual

[blissful hamlet]

or turn off the fleet lock, click on enemy, and reorder the formation

[signal pollen]

oh so that's what fleet lock did. Thank you

[stark quiver]

theres more features?

[blissful hamlet]

northampton 2

[hollow gust]

Still gonna shit on your best fleet

[blissful hamlet]

huh I just realized you're doing faction fleet

you should've used indomitable instead of ark royal

[steady beacon]

Oh God, serenity

[hollow gust]

[steady beacon]

Well, at least that wasn't as bad as putting Kear into a CV fleet with no other USS main...

[hollow gust]

[blissful hamlet]

ark royal in the same fleet as aurora and sirius is

[steady beacon]

Don't stare at me Grey, stare at serenity and ruthlessly judge him

[hollow gust]

Wait who did that, waiiit I remember serenity doing it

[gusty olive]

Wha-

[blissful hamlet]

it was a mistake I forgot about kear skill

[hollow gust]

[steady beacon]

"Forgot"
I'm putting my money on "just didn't know"

[plain saffron]

I forgot about new pr skills

[gusty olive]

I can't read

[hollow gust]

My man is still complaining about Yorky and Keary being weak

[whole crypt]

they're 7 days?

[blissful hamlet]

doesn't matter I still think indomitable is better than ark royal there

[blissful hamlet]

they will be op after this update

[whole crypt]

Indomitable is better than Ark Royal

[hollow gust]

[steady beacon]

Apparently not OP enough for serenity yet

[stark quiver]

Am I tripping or was hinden able to use 2 guns

[gusty olive]

Me when no Indomitable:

[whole crypt]

just depends on your use case

[crimson glacier]

hinden d30 can

[frank pulsar]

hinden can use 2
her aa slot can equip a main gun at d30

[steady beacon]

Uh... yes lol
That's one of her most prominent features, even

[blissful hamlet]

indomitable will be op too after this update

[hollow gust]

She can use two CA guns , the other one replacing her AA gun

[stark quiver]

Oh wait it’s d30 💀

[crimson glacier]

thats what i said

[stark quiver]

Anyways time to start pr6 grind

[gusty olive]

I heard new augments are coming

[south sequoia]

For centaur and lepizig yes

[steady beacon]

Centaur and Leipzig ye

[steady beacon]

Indomitable soon

[zinc turret]

alsace augment when ?

[gusty olive]

Too lazy to log in, but I atleast have 200+ coobs for Vanguard

[remote yarrow]

Soon as, somewhen next year

[blissful hamlet]

patchnote said after the next next update

[gusty olive]

Indomitable is during Vanguard event rite?

[steady beacon]

Yep

[hollow gust]

She came with Vanny , so should be soon actually

[gusty olive]

Guess I'll just need to get lucky

[steady beacon]

Smootie, are you confusing Indomitable and Implacable again...

[remote yarrow]

Yes

[steady beacon]

[remote yarrow]

[whole crypt]

probably around this time next year, Implacable

[gusty olive]

In a mainfleet of

Zwei, Soyuz, and FDG

Who should I replace for Alsace?

[south sequoia]

fdg

[hollow gust]

FDG easily

[blissful hamlet]

there's still musashi and york2 to be reruned

[whole crypt]

thus this time next year

[blissful hamlet]

what

[remote yarrow]

What he means is somewhere around July next year

[gusty olive]

@steady beacon does adjusting Alsace into the mainfleet will affect the timing?

[whole crypt]

I'm already counting around 2.5 years after original run

[blissful hamlet]

[remote yarrow]

Hopefully earlier cuz I want her

[agile sky]

idk why but for some reason i have like 43 T3 battleship retro fit and 20 T3 destroyer but then 0 of the others...i def didnt farm or buy or doing anything in particular so is there a reason why i got so many of these two specifically?

[stark quiver]

rng?

[south sequoia]

rng

[whole crypt]

unless you're telling me the next 12 months isn't enough to rerun Musashi and Yorktown II

[south sequoia]

It is what it is

[zinc turret]

i tought fdg is good but she replaced that easily ?

[agile sky]

and that would be from where? like a stage or....?

[south sequoia]

it also probably comes from the daily hard mode stages what you have been farming daily

[remote yarrow]

Maybe you didn't farm the stages the others drop from?

[hollow gust]

Or you just don't grind hard mode uneven you and use more of the other classes

[blissful hamlet]

she is good, but most UR BB are better

[remote yarrow]

Did you too X-1 and X-3 or what?

[south sequoia]

-1 dd -2 cruiser -3 bb -4 cv

[hollow gust]

FDG is older then most of the accounts here , it's about time

[crimson glacier]

i wouldnt say that replacing fdg is easy

[zinc turret]

which one better ? FDG /NJ ?

[steady beacon]

Uh
No, actually, I think FDG and Alsace have the slowest RLD in both cases...
You can try to still adjust the timing to get Alsace to go first but it's a bit cursed lol
If you're doing this month's Arbiter, just put Mk 7 or Mk 6 on all three and ignore the sync order
Trying to order them with HE is a waste of time
AP is a different story, ask me again next month

[crimson glacier]

depends what you need

[whole crypt]

FdG is a better mobber than NJ

[south sequoia]

NJ for single target
FDG for mobbing

[remote yarrow]

She's still a pretty decent Mobbing BB

[crimson glacier]

id say fdg is more useful in general, but NJ is better in meta battle

[agile sky]

full disclosure i have only farmed 12-1 and 1-1 hard.

1000% stoopid i know but back then i just wanted the quick clear for daily mission.

Pretty sure 1-1 hard doesnt drop ANY T3 retro lol

[blissful hamlet]

[whole crypt]

NJ is better for boss but also more easily replaced by newer rainbows for boss

[hollow gust]

FDG and Alsace has very different timings

[crimson glacier]

but like every rainbow BB we get just beats NJ in everything

[gusty olive]

Mk7 and Mk6? The dual aps?

[remote yarrow]

It doesn't, only world 3 and above does

[crimson glacier]

so i wouldnt use bulins on NJ if i didnt need to

[silver lintel]

Vanguard rerun tomorrow?

[steady beacon]

What, does your FDG fire before Soyuz or Bismarck?

[cloud fractal]

She was my first. She got bulins, 125, a ring 😂

[agile sky]

yeah so im hecka confused how i have so many...

At first i thought maybe we all naturally get this many but there's just more ships that used the other 2? Doesnt seem like it though...

[steady beacon]

Nah the HE guns

[hollow gust]

Read FDG skills , she should be closer to Nj timings , not Soyuz or Bismarck

[remote yarrow]

NJ might be better than FdG in some stuff but FdG doesn't require you to use 4 UR Bulins that could be used on better BBs or CVs

[steady beacon]

... So what the heck is your contention?

[elfin hollow]

guyz help me how i can get bismacrk zwe?

[crimson glacier]

you cant

[hollow gust]

You can't, not until a few years

[remote yarrow]

Wait a really long time for her Rerun

[blissful hamlet]

wait for her event to get rerun

[elfin hollow]

[steady beacon]

All I'm saying is that the firing order will be FDG last and Alsace last if either is in a fleet with Soyuz and Bismarck (assuming equal guns, naturally)
If you wish to contradict this, please present your evidence

[elfin hollow]

what is rerun?

[whole crypt]

when an event gets ran again

[elfin hollow]

oh okay

when its gonna happen by guess?

[crude kelp]

8 days

[blissful hamlet]

nobody knows

[whole crypt]

given the current scheduling I'd say in around 1.5 year's time

[elfin hollow]

[remote yarrow]

Probably somewhere around 2025 or even 2026 if it gets delayed

[elfin hollow]

okay, thank you guys ❤️

[lament bay]

is wichita meta good? or do i need to wait a couple more days to ask

[whole crypt]

glass cannon, I can test her but there's not much point to

[hollow gust]

Fdg should fire before Soyuz and Bismarck zwei if all use the the same equipment. She has rld buffing by skill

[remote yarrow]

Wait you already got get MLB?

[steady beacon]

...

[whole crypt]

FdG has timing problems because her reload thing goes on and off every other shot

[remote yarrow]

Did I miss a day or something? Cuz I only got 22k points

[steady beacon]

Here's a suggestion... TRY that and tell me what happens...

[whole crypt]

JP

[remote yarrow]

Oh

[hard mesa]

Fdg still fire last

[blissful hamlet]

:ranchSexPopcorn:

[crude kelp]

You did.

[steady beacon]

Have you ever... even USED FDG in triple BB before...?

[lament bay]

i see i guess i wont prioritize her then

[whole crypt]

and yeh 22k you're missing at least a day

[hard mesa]

Even with buff, her buff isnt permanent

[remote yarrow]

Well shit

Not like it matters tbh, wasn't gonna use her

[remote yarrow]

I also don't get max points from helping iirc

[whole crypt]

if you get 73pt assists then 1 day later

[remote yarrow]

I get 73 if I'm not mistaken

[whole crypt]

but 22k you definitely missed more than just 75pt assists

[remote yarrow]

I think I missed a whole day

[crude kelp]

Looks like you almost missed 2.

[hollow gust]

Yeah I'm definitely not wrong , FdG jumps nj , who is faster then ships like Bismarck

[remote yarrow]

of actual fights, and 2 of supporting iirc

[slow fox]

spreadsheet spotted

[whole crypt]

it's just for charting META ladder

I vaguely remember FdG going ahead then after NJ depending on cycle

[steady beacon]

Seriously, if you can prove that, feel free...
Looking over my recordings from May, FDG can jump Soyuz by second rotation
Maybe Bismarck by fourth? Too lazy to check that, but if you want to show it, please do

... Actually, you probably can even get Alsace in front of Soyuz by second rotation if you know what you're doing, but that's a whole other story...

[blissful hamlet]

[warm flax]

Do I strictly need twin57 for w15, if so what's the minimum

[sweet delta]

I feel like I've told you thrice already, you don't NEED the best, but if you are missing too many bests, then you fail

[frank pulsar]

i dont think its necessary, but it does help out a lot

it was the make or break for me cuz of how shit my stuff is lmao

[strange plank]

anyone know if this main gun is good or bad? Just got it from a tech pack

[frank pulsar]

terrible

[strange plank]

damn

okie, i will stick with my mk6 then

[blissful hamlet]

use the purple mk6 if you need good gun

[sweet delta]

This was all you needed to point out

[remote yarrow]

That's the gun you will use for most cases

[hollow gust]

Mb Bismarck is faster then nj , soyuz was the one slower then NJ .Either way my point was fdg odd salvo buff effects the order of BBs. My fdg jumped nj by 2nd salvo and stayed faster then her.

[strange plank]

should I disassemble all the trash gold gear? or keep 1 for collection?

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II Maybe give this a read

[steady beacon]

[strange plank]

kk

[remote yarrow]

If you wanna save one go ahead but you won't give it much use

[strange plank]

I c

ty

[steady beacon]

I feel like the intent of my original message got last somewhere in the muck of all those unrelated concerns tbh

It wasn't even about FDG fundamentally, it was that Alsace is a PITA to time

[remote yarrow]

What I remember before that is me confusing Indom with Implac

[sweet delta]

They're both pita to time

[remote yarrow]

What's pita

[whole crypt]

pain in the arse

[frank pulsar]

pain in the as

[steady beacon]

Well, fair, but I'm not losing a 12% debuff because I can't time FDG right

[remote yarrow]

Oh never heard that before

[hard mesa]

[remote yarrow]

~~Added to the list of english slangs ~~

[steady beacon]

The solution I've discovered is use her with Kear and Musashi... no worries there

[hollow gust]

[zinc turret]

alsace is PITA to time ? , so far my alsace always shoot after my helena scan tho

[steady beacon]

Nah, time to Helena is sweet
It's getting her order right with her sister BBs

[sweet delta]

Who is in Alsace class?

[steady beacon]

Flandre

[south sequoia]

Musashi is still faster than kear right? I assume her rld buff is carrying a bulk of her timings

[remote yarrow]

They don't look alike at all

[south sequoia]

... with other ur bbs

[steady beacon]

Probably not completely correct, but anyway
I'm using "sister" here not in the class sense, regardless

[south sequoia]

It isn't that hard to get it to have alsace go off with helena
Its just that alsace snails behind her peers

[remote yarrow]

~~Just make all BBs have the same rld 🧠 ~~

[cobalt rapids]

one is vichy and the other is iris

alsace faster than musashi

[steady beacon]

If one wants to get technical
Flandre is Alsace variant 1, 3x triple 380mm guns
Alsace is Alsace variant 3, 3x quadruple 380mm guns
But this is gph so

[south sequoia]

Huh? Alsace is still faster than musashi? I could've sworn musashi can outspeed with her rld buff even for a little

[steady beacon]

Nah, Alsace is faster

[calm rose]

200 aff 181.5 musa and 187 als

[sharp socket]

do i need agir d30 for w14

[steady beacon]

Dev 40

[calm rose]

Fs10

[sweet delta]

RLD isn't everything

[south sequoia]

Just 25 would do

But 30 is better for better damage

And stats

[steady beacon]

And tech

[cobalt rapids]

trip 410 is slower than champy aswell yea

[calm rose]

Sucks that ijn 410 is slower than champ too

[steady beacon]

Solution: join the Georgia gun cult

[south sequoia]

Well it is what it is when you have exceptional damage hindered by a faction gun lock and slow ass reload

[cobalt rapids]

cannot im alr in musashi cult

[steady beacon]

Who said those are mutually exclusive?
We accept all BBs, including Musashi

[south sequoia]

Musashi is still top heavy bb dps right?

[remote yarrow]

Do support carriers need to be leveled for W15?

[cobalt rapids]

yes, lvl adv matters

[remote yarrow]

[cobalt rapids]

assumming no gimmicks yea, the diff between bz + 2 other from the 3 is minimal tho

[remote yarrow]

~~No I'm not trying W15 yet btw ~~

[hollow gust]

Why use bbs , CVs sre basically better at everything

[remote yarrow]

I don't have neither of the recommended BBs nor Aquila

Do they have a replacement?

[cobalt rapids]

yes many

[sharp socket]

are there PR in pr5/6 that are good

[jaunty vault]

yes

all of them are good

[remote yarrow]

Harbin is pretty decent

[cobalt rapids]

consult /w15 tierlist

[sharp socket]

currently i need a better frontline, and maybe CV

[remote yarrow]

Chkalov was too iirc

[jaunty vault]

chkalov is really good

[remote yarrow]

The suchi video?

[cobalt rapids]

the bot command

[crimson glacier]

chakalov bout to drop from the best NP CV real soon

[jaunty vault]

word

[blissful hamlet]

There's only 2 NP CV so far

Also most people probably use volga more than chkalov

[remote yarrow]

I can't seem to find the w15 tierlist

[crimson glacier]

i feel like you took that about 400x times more seriously than what it was

[remote yarrow]

oh nvm it's a doc

[cobalt rapids]

its a full guide

[remote yarrow]

I think I'm gonna wait for Sashi

[inner delta]

why, you arent fcing anyway no?

[remote yarrow]

I think I underestimate my capabilities ngl

[sharp socket]

with my super protocore saving method ill be able to get all 4 UR gears in gearlab, but is it actually worth to grab all of them

[inner delta]

dude not fcing just mean you can get away with alot of shit

like its so much easier than you imagine

[sharp socket]

tenrai is good, plygun is good, but the rest i have no idea

[jaunty vault]

whats fcing

[inner delta]

fullclear

[crimson glacier]

full clear

[remote yarrow]

Full clearing

[shell willow]

fullclear

[silver lintel]

W15 no sashi no aquila, its easier than u think

[cobalt rapids]

drake gun is lowest prio

[sharp socket]

which one is drake gun

[cobalt rapids]

triple 234

[remote yarrow]

But my cats also suck and I don't have much tech too I might give it a try next month and see how it goes

[crimson glacier]

easier than you think feat: 7 rainbow ships

[cobalt rapids]

and volga

[remote yarrow]

Oh I gotta farm JdA

[cobalt rapids]

would be ideal

[south sequoia]

No laffii is sus

[inner delta]

i didnt use jda before

and it went fine

[remote yarrow]

Oh that too, my Laffii is 4/6

[sharp socket]

is it maint now i havent checked

[shell willow]

no

[jaunty vault]

i fced without jda

[cobalt rapids]

smoothie if u want w15 planning open a thread and post ur dock yk the rules

[soft raft]

Maint will be in 24 hours from now

[silver lintel]

Laffi is 4/6

[sharp socket]

what are we getting in the next patch anyway i didnt hear about an event aside from pr7

[south sequoia]

Oh

[remote yarrow]

That's it

[south sequoia]

Pr7 patch
Augment modules for centaur and leipzig

[elfin hollow]

which is better? using 2 different feelt or just 1 main fleet?

[sharp socket]

dead week? damn alright oil saving week

[south sequoia]

It's too early in the month to expect an event all of a sudden.

[sleek spade]

any event comin up soon tm?

[remote yarrow]

What campaign stage are you at? Cuz one fleet is enough up until W9 or 10

[south sequoia]

Vanguard rerun next week

[silver lintel]

Wym oil saving, gotta farm cdc lol

[sleek spade]

nice

[cobalt rapids]

depends on where u are at, one fleeting is advised till u reach oilcap and u dont have resources/options for 2nd fleet
after u should expand to 2 fleets

[elfin hollow]

10-3

[remote yarrow]

Then you should have or work towards 2 fleets

[south sequoia]

By w10 you should be stable enough to be making a 2nd fleet

[elfin hollow]

oh oki, thanks

[sharp socket]

wait vanny rerun is in 1 week?

[cobalt rapids]

true

[crimson glacier]

seem so

[elfin hollow]

but im poor, how i can get better guns?

[remote yarrow]

We can help you with that if you drop your dock in a thread, sorted by level and leaving out commons and rares

[sharp socket]

ah shit coin saving time

[cobalt rapids]

tech boxes for now then gearlab and research

[soft raft]

Finally, 2nd AFCT

[sharp socket]

time to get my first and only AFCT

[elfin hollow]

idk any meta. i just playing when im free time in work

[remote yarrow]

in a thread

[elfin hollow]

oh sorry

[remote yarrow]

Also read again what I said, all your dock sorted by level and filter out commons and rares

[elfin hollow]

We can help you with that if you drop

[warm flax]

Sorry

[rose whale]

Between Kron and Vanguard, who to mlb first? I have all the other UR and DR

[remote yarrow]

Vanguard

Kron doesn't have much use in most cases

[rose whale]

okay, saving bulin for her then

thanks

[shell willow]

can we expect any UR bulin from rerun? or do they not do that

[whole crypt]

same in milestone, half points req

[stark quiver]

Ur events rerun always 30k for bulin?

[shell willow]

[whole crypt]

first run 30k, rerun 15k

[warm flax]

Who got the most aa between Guam, Laffey II and Shimanto

[soft raft]

If this is for W15 you basically just slap the three of them together in mob fleet

Pretty sure Shimanto and Laffey II are pretty close to each other from what I remember

(Tho the W15 command also shows gears so that would technically answer your question as well)

[hollow gust]

Laffey is noticeably worse then Guam and shimato , with shimato being best

I think mebot has a AA sheet too

[slow fox]

Mebot mentioned

[hollow gust]

[remote yarrow]

Isuzu

[zinc turret]

sasuga sandy , namba wan

[slow fox]

This is updated for augment.

[cobalt rapids]

where is guam vh

[slow fox]

[remote yarrow]

She throws her VH to the planes

[slow fox]

???????

[hollow gust]

What's the link to this ?

[remote yarrow]

Becareful it's laggy

[slow fox]

I think the SlamHeart guide also has a link to it.

❤️

[remote yarrow]

Or atleast it lagged my PC when I was playing some game

[hollow gust]

You got a link?

[remote yarrow]

Isn't it Nagami?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HF6_hLEB8m_v0stp4DLGnIoDjgojvo7fjYz-cysjTMc/edit?gid=756671274#gid=756671274

Yeah it's in Nagami's website

[hollow gust]

Isn't that ehp ?

[zinc turret]

source : trust me bro

[remote yarrow]

I mean this says eHP too

[cobalt rapids]

slamheart guide link to it isnt updated

[slow fox]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/tools

[remote yarrow]

Damn slamheart

[slow fox]

O I'll update RIGHT NOW

[cobalt rapids]

take ur time

[wary timber]

I didn't know u could find these from the meowfficer nodes in opsi. Is there a list of stuff that could be found out there ?

[shell willow]

wiki

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki operation sirenn

[remote yarrow]

you put in an extra N

[slow fox]

done

[calm rose]

In the wiki

[wary timber]

Oho

[slow fox]

/wiki operation sirennn

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

[elfin hollow]

There is new UR on 11? or Just PR7 release? Thank you

[remote yarrow]

PR7 + Augments for Centaur and Leipzig

[elfin hollow]

Thanks

[fiery swan]

No pre evaluation for new ships?

[remote yarrow]

Sam said after next maint #gameplay-help message

[eternal basalt]

18 Vanuard rerun

[eternal basalt]

Once they actually release, wait 24h. Can only evaluate their hotness, cat wins.

[steady beacon]

The current event released like two weeks ago though

[shell willow]

the fella said pre evaluation, prolly meant pr ships

[eternal basalt]

Incase there is uncertainty about Sam's word, he mentions after next maint CN SIDE.
So basically, once they are actually released.

[steady beacon]

Ah
Well, we can't pre-evaluate anything but hotness as Hassat said
We literally know nothing about them apart from that (and their stat wheels; consult Thorin for more info)

[inland shoal]

Ah cuz of PRe evaluation, got it
Maybe I should add an evaluation to my predictor, it just looks at the generated stats and if they're below average it says collection only, otherwise good or if the stats are like top 20% or sth great

[eternal basalt]

Skill +20% stat

[pale tulip]

I'll look into that lmfao

[fiery swan]

I meant the ironblood ones

[eternal basalt]

Should I pull for these ships?
Reasons you should pull for the ships, in no particular order:
Waifu
Collection
Better than some permanent options at their hull type (only for gold ships, check the evaluations linked above for more information).

*Note: There are 2 more UR events scheduled for 2024, plus potential (unconfirmed) UR rerun events, spend cubes wisely.

[inland shoal]

All of them are mid at best

But why is tech not included there, lotsa FP tech

[eternal basalt]

Ask sam

Why pre evaluations on the final day of the event, btw

[pastel kindle]

hi, I need some advice, I have 3 bulins, should I upgrade one of these ships or wait for the next ur event?

[shell willow]

oh not because of the pun i just thought asking for "pre" evaluation of ships that have been out for like 2 weeks is less likely than ships releasing in ~2 days

[lament bay]

should i do first mk7 or second wyvern?

[whole crypt]

by 3 I assume you have 2 more you can exchange
just go for Shinano, next is VG rerun and you kind of have enough UR BBs to cover for now

[worldly pewter]

also don't slac on coining fdg

[pale tulip]

need help for survivability aux

[steady beacon]

Personally, unless you're wanting to play the Wichita fight seriously (which probably isn't a good idea rn) I'd go for second Wyvern

[frank pulsar]

its literally just double toolkit for shima

[pale tulip]

thanks :)

huh. there's another.

[frank pulsar]

most dd use double toolkit, if you wanna minmax can use some other aux with 500+ hp with toolkit

[pale tulip]

Action Report

[frank pulsar]

uh, iirc it buffs fp...? not useful for shima
just use goldburn or smth as second aux

[pale tulip]

alr

[pastel kindle]

OK thank you

[strange sphinx]

hmmm ic, I still have question about research, In Newcomer mission, there's always a mission where you need atleast research per season right, My question is should I bother to dev 30 them and fate sim or focus in PR4?

[plain saffron]

You can use coin on older season and do research for season 4

[eternal basalt]

Ägir and Anchorage are still amazing ships

[silver lintel]

Is flandre as good as fdg for mobbing?

[jaunty vault]

no

[dawn hamlet]

Hi I think I've read a guide giving some tips/direction on how to raise tech points for shipyard quickly but I can't find it, anyone got it?

iirc there was tips for each faction

[whole crypt]

this? https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[jaunty vault]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

[dawn hamlet]

ah it's this one yes, thank you a lot guys

[lament bay]

my concern is i dont have as good BB fleet on light compared to USS cv fleet and possibly new pr7 having a light figter upgrade

[rose whale]

anyone tried mogador in w15? can she survive?

[steady beacon]

Wait, so do you have the USS CV fleet?

[lament bay]

i have yk2 enterprise avp

[hard mesa]

Yes mog fine in w15 but need to do something with her lack AA

[steady beacon]

Oh then
If you have that for anti-light, you don't really need to worry too much about doubling up an anti-light BB fleet imo
Unless you want to use Kear alongside YII
The other question is whether you intend to go into W13+ in the near future, since that's arguably the area where having Wyverns is the most helpful... if you're not too concerned with progressing campaign right now, you can afford to put more Wyverns a little behind in priority

[lament bay]

im doing 14-1 but yeah i guess at one point ill do it in the near future; need a bit more flapjacks and +13 gear

[steady beacon]

Ngl, ever since CVs died hard in PvP, my regard for the Wyvern has dropped off precipitously...
And I would value my Mk 7s more than my Wyverns
Doesn't help that I only "really" used one in W15

[inland shoal]

Eh Mk7 is a small improvement, Wyvern isn't

Especially considering that you won't +13 Mk7 that soon if you're somewhat new

[steady beacon]

Ye, which is why I think I'm a bad source of advice for new players
Can't wait to get yelled at when I finish the guide

[steady beacon]

The way each research gear seems to be rendered in EN
The lack of capital "M" in "mod.A" triggers my OCD ngl

[dawn hamlet]

I know R7 is coming tmrw but do we have any event?

[plain saffron]

Hmm so bearcat float instead of flying?

[shell willow]

free skin event only

[strange sphinx]

where's my datamine

[steady beacon]

Augments for Centaur/Leipzig
Collab skin 7-day mini-event
Vanguard rerun is the week after

[plain saffron]

In my basement, follow me to see it

[steady beacon]

Can't mine data that we don't have yet lol
Give it uhhhh... about 18hrs-ish

[cobalt rapids]

datamine only up after cn predl

[dawn hamlet]

thank you a lot

[strange sphinx]

Vanguard, BB gang

[steady beacon]

Sorry, I'm in the CV gang

[strange sphinx]

there are candy down there? Oji san

[plain saffron]

Yes

[strange sphinx]

~~Should I pulk for vanguard though ~~

[eager mulch]

there isn’t candy down here

[cobalt rapids]

u should use ur 44 free tickets and pull afterwards for vanguard if u dont have her yes

[strange sphinx]

Ic

[calm rose]

does spearfish win ryuusei if only rocket hits? assuming +13 for both planes and light armor

[strange sphinx]

so Bearcat float is not UR?

[steady beacon]

Should be SR

[cobalt rapids]

if only rockets?
it needed 1.2 torps to beat saiun at same + iirc

[calm rose]

i see, thanks

[steady beacon]

These are the calcs I did trying to check for this against Wichi

[cobalt rapids]

+12

[steady beacon]

Plane plate poor
Soon to be even poorer

[hard mesa]

Spearfish rocket=65*4=260= 1 ryuusei torp

[steady beacon]

Tbqh, on account of Wichi liking to hug the edges of the screen, I'd personally keep Ryuusei on Implac (timing is also a bit nicer)
If using Shangri or Enty in that cursed 4-strike setup, then I'd be more inclined to bet on Spear

[cobalt rapids]

u forgor the mods

[steady beacon]

+13 vs +13 vs +12 btw

[kind needle]

Should I continue? PR7 is tomorrow but…

[sharp grove]

hellow guys, i would like to ask what are the recommended fleets and gears for w15

[whole crypt]

finish what you started, you don't need to go straight to PR7 when it starts

[whole crypt]

#bot-spam /w15

[kind needle]

Could my oil survive?

[whole crypt]

you don't look like you'll make much progress in PR7 even if you switched, just take your time

[shell willow]

not like the ships are usable right away anyways

[icy mountain]

is it okay if i +13 roombas?

[undone plover]

I would hold off until u think u need to +13 sth
U will probably only need +13 aa for 15 and 13h
And the 15 example fleet doesnt use roombas last time I checked

[jaunty vault]

it's okay but not recommended

[ebon verge]

is there a gold oil ratio graph for w15?

[jaunty vault]

there is one

i dont have it

[eager mulch]

I can’t read

[cobalt rapids]

me neither

[elfin hollow]

how many BP is needed for DR fs 5?

[cobalt rapids]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[eager mulch]

215 iirc

[elfin hollow]

thank you

so much protocore

[calm rose]

what do you mean so much protocore?

[eager mulch]

215 bps = 4300 protocore

[calm rose]

i mean yea thats alot of protocore, but one just do research normally and not use protocore right?

is he buying ship BP using protocore?

[cobalt rapids]

i believe some do buy ship bps with protocore

[elfin hollow]

no i had 266 bps of agir

sold 51 to get 1k protocor

which rainbow weapon should I get

[calm rose]

ah, then thats fine

[cobalt rapids]

between those two get 457

[south sequoia]

Tenrai
If tenrai and quad 152 already finished pick 457

[elfin hollow]

Thank you guys

[jaunty vault]

you're welcome 😁

[cobalt rapids]

you're cooper

[plain saffron]

i'm welcome?

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

you’re mfw enty buffed again

[south sequoia]

[elfin hollow]

Who do I give 457

[cobalt rapids]

depends on content

all would want it except sushi in some places and non would want it in other places

[elfin hollow]

Is OpSi good answer

[cobalt rapids]

not for me

[elfin hollow]

HE or AP ?

[cobalt rapids]

for opsi depends what ure facing but most often than not u would want to benefit from helena therefore running good 20s guns

[eager mulch]

I use 0 457 in opsi

[elfin hollow]

[cobalt rapids]

and u might want also for ur other 2 bbs to benefit from bz blackhole therefore having similar timing to her

[jaunty vault]

i use 1 457 in opsi

[steady beacon]

Does it count as "using" 4 if one is padding cross-fleet?

[jaunty vault]

use is use

[cobalt rapids]

no gatekeeping

[calm rose]

personally was using one on FDG before i changed my mob fleet BB to Musashi

[late flame]

i have it mostly on either kear or uvh

[elfin hollow]

These timers are just confusing, I just want good gun on my ships

[jaunty vault]

just do two BB mob fleet

[elfin hollow]

BB FdG is my mob, I can put it on her?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

its a good gun u can use it for campaign or med/heavy bossing, but u just might have better options

[elfin hollow]

Thank you

I'm too dumb or lazy, rainbow > anything for me

[steady beacon]

And that's how the backline was armed with all Z-flags

[warm flax]

Isn't it too early for a boss

[wet prairie]

how VG ended up with rainbow oxytorps

[cobalt rapids]

15-3 has 2 bosses
15-4 has 3

[warm flax]

Crazy

[forest palm]

so the La-9 is the UR Plane?

[eager mulch]

UR plane #5 lets go

waiting for my UR converging TB

[undone plover]

What about your 6x ryuusei fleet

[shell willow]

i just realized that the update preview has images of the new gear

[whole crypt]

15-3? there's 2 bosses

[tender lotus]

What's the type of the new UR plane ?

[finite crag]

Fighter

[sweet merlin]

waht should i set for researh pri: the pr6 as i need bps for kesarg and hidenburg, or pr4/3 for bps of equpis i need?

[undone plover]

Are you close to finishing 6?
At this point wait for tomorrow to decide
Let us see what pr7 brings

[cobalt rapids]

not 3, if u meant 4/5 then u can move onto the next season if u got it completed + a ur gear from research depending how close u are

[sweet merlin]

dev 15 for both ships

agir also is only at dev 24...

[cobalt rapids]

focus 4 then..

[viscid swift]

go back to PR4

[cobalt rapids]

dont jump around seasons u just get a bunch of incomplete ships

[sweet merlin]

who to mlb nest>

[cobalt rapids]

wait for Vanguard

[sweet merlin]

what is it?

[cobalt rapids]

Vanguard rerun is in 1 week, one of the top bbs

[sweet merlin]

ah ok

does shinano xfleet effect depend on her level or the stats of the attacking fleet?

[cobalt rapids]

her stats, buffs of the attack fleets flag

[undone plover]

Do yall recommend min/maxing vanny rld from enhance?

I have read she is hard to work with at max rld