gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

sir #trophy-room is that way

[wet prairie]

Do we know if the 410 is IJN? (Copium for good fast AP gun)

[wary hawk]

I thought serenity would be the one to predict this

[turbid glade]

course it is IJN, there's no other BB than Daisen in PR7

[viscid swift]

I mean it'll probably be better than the HVAR against light, better than the 109 against medium it'll be a bit of a coin toss

[blissful hamlet]

different than my prediction

[whole crypt]

just decide when datamine comes

if it's a good plane then do harder gear focus

[eternal basalt]

Have to focus PR7 anyways

[viscid swift]

meh, just throw cubes at it

[whole crypt]

that's a given, but if the plane isn't amazeballs you can focus ships over gear and go back to q152s

[blissful hamlet]

you can't get gear with cubes research

[turbid glade]

Nakhimov with a full UR anti light plane setup

[blissful hamlet]

it will be a heavy rocket

[lament bay]

is pr7 dropping on the 11th?

[viscid swift]

I was implying your rush to finish the ships by heaily doing cube researches so you have more time or gear research

[whole crypt]

doubt she'll fit 3 fighters

[wet prairie]

3 DBs

[ebon verge]

is messerschmitt a good alternative for w15 support fleet if i dont want to craft fw190?

[turbid glade]

idk i'm lowkey expecting a 4/3/2

or 3/4/2

[whole crypt]

no, as in 3 fighter fitting slots

[viscid swift]

no

[inland shoal]

Not rly, I forgot the name of the other fast AA plane, Skyrocket?

[whole crypt]

I'd rush cubes up to 1 PR finishing at most, you can just prioritize rigging there on and wrap up ships with face

[turbid glade]

well my comment earlier on rainbow setup is with the rainbow DB from Yorktown II event + that one niche TB for the shiny memes

[whole crypt]

otherwise you end up sitting around taking in excess ship prints anyway while doing gear

[turbid glade]

If you mean the USS one, Skyrocket yeah

[late flame]

play the long game get prints for future FS5

[whole crypt]

you get them anyway?

I focused gear enough for 3 hindenburg guns and I still have PR6 ready to FS

and that's moving back to PR5 besides the 3 guns

[late flame]

rng must hate me.. nowhere near 2nd plygun and 49/50 hindy gun

[wide marsh]

What is luck and what it affects?

[plain saffron]

/accuracy

[whole crypt]

I maintain it's a matter of resaerch choice

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Accuracy determines the chances of hitting or missing the enemy. It is affected by several stats, such as attacker's Hit, defender's Evasion, and Evasion Rate, as well as Luck stat of both. Full maths and factors behind it can be seen here.

Same factors also affect Critical Hit chances, maths behind which can be found here.

[wet prairie]

I’ve been doing PR4 for agir and have enough to FS most of PR6

[turbid glade]

3 Hindy guns before PR7 released

[ebon verge]

so which one is better between the 2 purple planes?

[inland shoal]

Skyrocket is good

[whole crypt]

[turbid glade]

yeah exactly, i was saying that i had 3 too

[viscid swift]

both are good, I reccomend a 50/50 split of the 2 myself

[whole crypt]

well at this point 3 feels par, unless you really had no use for more than 2 and hopped to another series

more rather 4-5 pieces of rainbow gear per year sounds normal, 3 is already accounting for poor 🎲

[forest palm]

wow not having them all at +13

[whole crypt]

give me your gun plates for that

[forest palm]

3 ~ 4 of a singular research UR piece within a year sounds reasonable tbh

[whole crypt]

it should be if you're picking the right researches

I was at 4+ q152s by the time PR6 came

[blazing shale]

Siren Hinden > Unzen?

[forest palm]

I mean generally Hinden is stronger than Unzen, but it's very 🤏

[keen sable]

One is ok...

[steady beacon]

Also kind of depends on armour type ngl
And if Bis Zwei is in the fleet, Hindy receives a noticeable boost

[exotic wren]

This vit, no idea yet if it's converging or parallel like it's other half right?

[blissful hamlet]

[steady beacon]

No confirmation yet
Will have to wait for the datamine

[forest palm]

only so much can be discerned from gear names as AL has a track record of being fucky with these things

[whole crypt]

mode change to DB

[plain saffron]

but russian is azur lane so i doubt it'll be converging

[whole crypt]

didn't VIT-2 already have unique torps

[plain saffron]

but is it converging

[whole crypt]

nope

[plain saffron]

wyvern also unique

until they change the name to common in a patch

[whole crypt]

wiki still says torpedo wyvern

[plain saffron]

yeah because nobody noticed it got changed

i doubt someone go through tens thousands of line changes

[kindred flicker]

to retrofit my unicorn do i have to fulfill the whole tree

[viscid swift]

no

but you'll want to do all of it either way

[silk helm]

who is better than enterprise in terms of bossing CVs

[whole crypt]

rainbows, Shangri-La (aug) if Lucky E fails to proc

[forest palm]

Ent can stay relevant even among URs

[whole crypt]

Enteprise pairs well with Yorktown II anyway, but kind of loses out to using Kearsarge when the third ship is Implacable

actually does Kearsarge skill work with russian planes too?

if it does it means you want a La-9 for Kearsarge too...

[steady beacon]

It indeed does

Up to now, though, we've never gotten a Russian fighter

[whole crypt]

well it should be at least situationally better than rocketcat, if not just a complete upgrade

when you're not using bomb fighters at least

[viscid swift]

there is also the possibility of the new Bearcat, depending on if Floatplane is just a descriptor or if it will be resricted to floatplane slots

[whole crypt]

well it'll be sad if it's really just floatplane because seaplane tenders are 🚮 and Halford's slot will be rather restricted... though I'm not holding my hopes up

[blissful hamlet]

is it good?

[whole crypt]

wait for datamine

[blissful hamlet]

[viscid swift]

Well bear in mind it has Tiny Tim rockets in WoWs, I wouldn't exactly dash hopes just yet

[blissful hamlet]

is tiny tims rocket good in wows?

[viscid swift]

in WoWs and IRL yes

[blissful hamlet]

:god:

[silk helm]

is fdg okay to use without fate sim? still d30

[strange sphinx]

my mob fleet, gonna come back here if my team died in 14-1 also W14 also have subs right?

[wispy pendant]

Sure, she’s better with fs5 tho

[silk helm]

im just hoping to run 3 IB main fleet for avp cdc2

[knotty dome]

what kind of cats should i use for w15 with this? https://renhex.github.io/alft/194
double CV cats on both fleets or something like that? and what if i dont have 4 CV cats?

[steady beacon]

If you're just grinding PR go for it

[viscid swift]

that's your mob fleet for W14?
also 14-3 and 14-4 do have subs in recon nodes

[viscid swift]

any cats with Flame's Aggression/Mountain work
just pick the ones you feel are the best

[knotty dome]

ok, thanks

[inner delta]

it's not wtf

[viscid swift]

what

[inner delta]

[viscid swift]

no really, would you care to ellaborate

[keen sable]

Flame or mountain

[inner delta]

im just giving my piece in it

[keen sable]

Looks like an awful mob fleet

[kindred dust]

Hoping new ijn bb gun will be good, wonder how much musashi will benefit

[keen sable]

You're not running monohulls. Good cats > bad cv cats

[blazing shale]

PR4 is already coinable right?

[plain saffron]

coin shouldn't happen until cny next year if they follow last 2 years

[south sequoia]

Yes just not the drs

[verbal elm]

How to access memories for the shipgirls?

[icy mountain]

should i farm for DoY? considering that vanguard rerun is almost there might as well not right?

[plain saffron]

start them? set as secretay and tap on them in main ui

[verbal elm]

Tap them anywhere?

[plain saffron]

as long as it's on them yes

just note that not all ship have it

[novel solstice]

You can see which ships have them (and view ones you've already unlocked) in (double arrow button next to Formation on main screen)->Memories->Memories->Character

[viscid swift]

if you have the bullins ready for Vanguard then Duke of York is just +2 reload tech at 120

[icy mountain]

bulins r ready

for vanguard

[knotty dome]

i see. thanks

[strange sphinx]

also in W14. In auto, the ship will activate the lighthouse or no?

[viscid swift]

you mean with autosearch? no

[plain saffron]

the path should be cleared so you can go take manually then auto search if you wantr

[tulip zenith]

whats the best bluestacks version

[left cedar]

refresh my mind, its "today" the datamine ?

[gaunt oracle]

it might be a dumb question but, how does oath skin work in ships with alt skins? like should i marry yorktown II for the alt oath skin, or marry elite yorktown in order to have the oath skin for yorktown II

[viscid swift]

datamine will be tomorrow

[viscid swift]

you marry the ship you want to have the oath skin for

[gaunt oracle]

oh ok thanks

[plain saffron]

32bit nougat works fine for me

[strange sphinx]

I thought it is on july 11?

[steady beacon]

Yes, it should be

[frank pulsar]

for most its 5, but everyone has a different experience
if bluestacks 5 dont work can always try other emu

[steady beacon]

Unless cheeky is in a timezone where the date has already rolled over

[plain saffron]

australia people?

[steady beacon]

Those in the east would be one, ye
NZ as well

[tame jungle]

those don't exist

[viscid swift]

let me clarify, we're still more than 24 hours off from the datamine

[tame jungle]

datamine usually available when files are made available for dl for CN right

[steady beacon]

Also, what kind of insider info have you got Nagami to know for sure Enty gets buffed?

[elfin hollow]

Its hard to mine data that doesnt exist yet

[viscid swift]

it takes a bit longer than that, things needed to sifted through and compiled into a readable format after all

not to mention this one is gonna have a lot of stuff

[south sequoia]

Enty buffed? I thought the modules for this month would be only for centaur and leip?

[tulip zenith]

ok thx guys

[blissful hamlet]

Enty get buffed?

[calm rose]

prob cuz of the gear we'll be getting

[viscid swift]

probably referring to the new UR rocket fighter

[south sequoia]

Oh

Makes sense

[plain saffron]

better gear = enty buffed

[blissful hamlet]

With that logic every CV in the game will get buffed too

[plain saffron]

i'm sick of enty, everytime dev add new gear she gets buffed

[viscid swift]

good thing they're adding another rainbow CV this patch

[plain saffron]

yeah but have you see other CV in meta fleet

[blissful hamlet]

Can't wait to use my buffed unicorn

[steady beacon]

Dw, as long as you're faithful to Sara, she doesn't need any buffs

[plain saffron]

yeah she doesn't need any in bed

[blissful hamlet]

Sara fighter slot is kinda underwhelming

[plain saffron]

ouh wait i forgot sara have fighter slot

[blissful hamlet]

She'll be very op when they released another skyraider

[steady beacon]

Nagami about to do something very cursed

[abstract solar]

How good is alvitr

[viscid swift]

she's okay

[south sequoia]

Every cv with a fighter slot*

[abstract solar]

Soo like around roma level kinda?

[viscid swift]

about that ballpark yes

[blissful hamlet]

Isn't only chkalov and shouhou that don't have fighter slot?

[viscid swift]

Ranger doesn't either, or Hermes

[blissful hamlet]

Ranger

[steady beacon]

Or Hwah Jah (and pre-retro Chen Hai)

[abstract solar]

Also is klaudia without mystic robe, elixir and augment still very good?

[viscid swift]

yes

[abstract solar]

Mm thx I'll raise her I think

[vale spindle]

augment is a big upgrade unfortunately

without the augment your uptime on the heal is more scuffed

the auxes are just generic stat stuff, she doesnt rely on them more than any other ship

[whole crypt]

Enterprise just scales very well with good new gear because flat double damage

[frank pulsar]

every patch with new gear is enty buff

[tame jungle]

[sharp socket]

whats the shiny bubble aux gear skin called

[abstract solar]

Man idk what I was doing when she first came out
I also have ryuuhou so I can maybe raise her first

[steady beacon]

... Sam, am I tripping?
Doesn't the Astrumnox only upgrade skill 3 to Fatal Drive?
Her heal has nothing to do with her aug or even the fleet's AP count

[sharp socket]

as in this shiny bubble thing that my guild mate has

[tame jungle]

i think mana shield

[plain saffron]

one of the aux skin

[silk helm]

when do you use white and black shell vs white shell + fire control radar/table

[vale spindle]

oh im dum

[viscid swift]

a shell plus fire control radar/table is basically the default for me at this point
double shells is when I don't want the timing of the fire control radar basically

[wide marsh]

Is there ane reason to grind current event past new dd and golden torpedoes?

[vale spindle]

Nope

You can if you want but its not that important

[viscid swift]

yes, Gold plates and cognitive chips

[whole crypt]

gold plates, rainbow book

[steady beacon]

Dw, just needed to check
I wouldn't blame you for forgetting the precise mechanics of a collab ship from almost two years ago when I can't even remember what I had for breakfast this morning

[whole crypt]

oh yeh and chips

[vale spindle]

doesnt help that other ryza ships require augment to prevent ap cucking

[whole crypt]

just don't use Ryza ships

[steady beacon]

Just get their augments, they didn't even cost anything

[soft raft]

anyone got the link for JP Notes?

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.jp/news-item.html?i=1373

[undone plover]

is soy better on mob for OOA nodes for 3 star than alsace?

[polar venture]

Would yall say nano is worthy of an oath?

[tame jungle]

don't oath for meta, oath for waifu

so if you really do like her sure, if you're doing it for the stats then just leave it

[plain saffron]

unless you're a whale

[strange sphinx]

Question in auto search, do you guys put the subs in Attack mode?

[keen sable]

Free stuff, onsen

[keen sable]

NM yes, I almost always use attack

[strange sphinx]

[keen sable]

Autocall not so much

[strange sphinx]

Oh well my mob fleet died but because I push them to the limit to clear all Escort ships(Mob)

[worldly pewter]

ur only healer is alsace ?

[strange sphinx]

Wait she heals?

[whole crypt]

normally if you see that your mob fleet isn't going to make it you stop
just wait until stage is safe before doing all mobs

Alsace has a single zombie heal for the first ship in the fleet to hit low, it's not going to be enough if your fleet doesn't cut it

[strange sphinx]

Well technically last battle did Northampton and Belfast died but Laffey is still kicking with half hp

[whole crypt]

well is stage safe, if not come back when it is, or when your ships/gear better

[strange sphinx]

still clearing it so,

[tame jungle]

just lower threat level before trying that man

[strange sphinx]

lethal but Doable

[whole crypt]

there's no reason to do it during lethal, it costs you more oil too

[viscid swift]

considering your mob fleet had no dedicated healer...

[whole crypt]

only the folks who want to flex or want to save the stage for testing bother with lethal 3stars

[strange sphinx]

I mean I only did it to have 2 star but when it is kind clear specific amount of mob to make the boss show up, they're all alive

[clever sun]

What submarine should i use and limit break them? Last time i was busy so i couldnt read the respond

[viscid swift]

like, I don't know what the cook behind this was

[whole crypt]

I personally think recommending a mob fleet in lethal without a healer is just trolling

[viscid swift]

81 plus 96 from the medal shop and 37 from the Inverted Orthant War Archive or merit shop

[strange sphinx]

[clever sun]

Thanks

[whole crypt]

are you at a stage to actually need subs

[keen sable]

We already told you that mob fleet is bad

[clever sun]

I need to do daily raids

[whole crypt]

buy royal fortune from core shop

it's easier to cheese sub raid with blue guns on Royal Fortune than bothering with subs

[clever sun]

Thanks

[plain saffron]

or learn to do it properly

[clever sun]

Royal fortune right?

[keen sable]

But you should not use attack mode. Calling relocated passive subs is the biggest benefit. (Also costs the most oil)

[steady beacon]

Why do it properly when you can cheat?

[viscid swift]

I'm not a particular fan of reccomending getting Royal Fortune just to clear the sub raid

[whole crypt]

it's just far easier than raising subs from scratch

he doesn't even have a LB'd set

[clever sun]

Oh, she is too expensive. I think ill take pr7 advice to get less pain

[whole crypt]

raising your subs will be expensive too

[plain saffron]

But subs will be useful after that

[whole crypt]

well good luck getting subs into a state that can clear sub raid on 65

[clever sun]

Yea a nightmare for me

[viscid swift]

it's not that difficult, a MLB I-58 can do it at like level 70 solo

[worldly pewter]

suchi always promotes the idea of solo i 58

[clever sun]

What sub should i mlb and level up for clearing high stage raids now?

[wind hazel]

dont you need to raise RF as well, if you plan on recommending it

[viscid swift]

the 3 subs I mentioned, you can start with 81 for now if you can divert resources to subs

[wind hazel]

like... that's the same thing, just performs better+more expensive

[whole crypt]

gearing is less complicated

[clever sun]

I only had 1 of them

[wind hazel]

surely a lv100 purple sub can do it with purple gear as well

[clever sun]

Die of poor

[whole crypt]

I personally recommend RF because it's just way easier, but I guess if purple subs are cheaper for you

[wind hazel]

i think you're just underestimating the value of 1500 core data to a relatively new player

[viscid swift]

but it's also 1500 core data and 4 gold bullins

plus level 100+ to do the hardest one

[wispy pendant]

RF gear available these days?

[whole crypt]

I think players at that level don't need to worry about subs and sub gear at all as well so

[whole crypt]

you can cheese sub raid with her stock blue guns

[viscid swift]

nope

[clever sun]

How?

[worldly pewter]

tbh when i was new too i had the luxury to buy an oxy from the core data i think it is doable but yeah it is expensive

[viscid swift]

manual play and doing the bare minimum to get an S clear

[clever sun]

How to get the s clear? Kill the boss or time out?

[worldly pewter]

it is written on ship selection screen

[keen sable]

2 cargo ships + all bosses + no deaths

[whole crypt]

is gold oxytorp enough to cope for sub raid

[clever sun]

That is insane for me now

[keen sable]

Ammo is ammo. Triples even better

[whole crypt]

or just don't bother about it for now, you don't really need subs until much later

it might be easier if you can start collecting the torp prints earlier but it's not a must

[wind hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYFzdjTD_eQ

literally free game

[clever sun]

Ill try

Thanks i finished the lv 65

[clever sun]

Ill take note it

[whole crypt]

well you cleared it so now you can just skip your 4 weeklies

should have enough MkVIIIs in about half a year or so

[clever sun]

Ill try the lv 75 later 💀

[whole crypt]

65 is fine if just for picking up MkVIIIs

[clever sun]

What is that?

[whole crypt]

the purple torp needed to craft bidders

[tame jungle]

inb4 "what are bidders"

those are the top sub torps

[whole crypt]

I repeat he probably doesn't even need subs yet

[wind hazel]

getting a head start is better than late

[whole crypt]

so worry about it later

[wind hazel]

just spam the 65 until you can craft bidders in the future

[wide marsh]

How cursed is Shinano Akagi Kaga main stack for grinding 12-1? Or is it at least ok?

[tame jungle]

did 12-1 have bomb boats

[viscid swift]

you can use anything for grinding XP and in W12 on safe

[clever sun]

Thanks

[wide marsh]

Almost none

[whole crypt]

do you have any IJN main fleet that's not maxed

I assume this is for grinding Daisen

[wide marsh]

My fleet somewhere around lvl105

[nova halo]

can i grinding PRs in w13?

[whole crypt]

you can but it's more troublesome than 12

[viscid swift]

Considering I was running that sometime back in w12

[whole crypt]

it's also less XP/oil than 12

[nova halo]

considering

[clever sun]

Should i delete all the blue items?

[wide marsh]

Repulse and bogue at w12. Brutal.

[viscid swift]

there's a safe to scrap guide in #bot-spam /equip

[nova halo]

u rly don't it need then scrap

[whole crypt]

it's going to be around 24k oil for a PR in 12-1, if you do it in 13 then that number can go up

[clever sun]

Thanks

[whole crypt]

like the only reason I'd imagine you'll want to do it in 13 is if you're not pushing too hard and want more XP per morale

[nova halo]

way to go

the most stupid thing that manjuu ever created was the morale mechanic

[viscid swift]

#game-feedback is that way

[nova halo]

can't even rushing PRs

[viscid swift]

one, you can
two, there's no reason to rush PRs when you won't have blueprints in substantial amounts for any of them for at least a month

[whole crypt]

what? you can already hit CDC cap before 6 days is over as it is without 20% morale bonus

and that's in ch12, not 13

I don't know how much faster you want to rush than the timegate

[nova halo]

prob 2 months

[wide marsh]

Speaking of PR. How much BP I should buy in shipyard daily? I feel like 10 is way to go to save coins a bit

[whole crypt]

if you're taking 2 months then morale isn't your problem

[viscid swift]

depends on how much you can afford
I wouldn't reccomend more than 15 a day for PRs and 10 for DRs

[blazing shale]

Then would PR5 be coinable next excluding the DRs?

[viscid swift]

should be in about 6 months

[whole crypt]

I bloody min-timed PR6 on ch12 without keeping morale bonus, I don't see why morale is a problem if you intend to take 2 months

[nova halo]

holy fuck my Ita's vanguard

[south sequoia]

#al-general if you have nothing to ask nor answer please thank you

[whole crypt]

for reference Marco Polo accepted XP for one more faction besides pasta

you may not need to exclusively use pasta vanguards for Napoli's grind

also if you happen to have filtered out non-SR units, they would work fine too

[left cedar]

inb4: but they dont shiny, they should be useless

[whole crypt]

but those 4 shinies are also useless

[left cedar]

ppl cant understood why rarity dosnt matter in quality here in AL ... thats why i will be always joking with it

[whole crypt]

well rarity only matters if you're a natural rainbow

and even then it only holds up for ships, not gear

[left cedar]

in a near future i kinda doubt on it ...
with 4 new UR per y + 2 DRs ...

[whole crypt]

older ones can get crept out but it doesn't mean the old rainbows are bad, at least not until dev come up with something more challenging

[stark quiver]

I’m going for the last Brest bps, what am I even supposed to pick here

[whole crypt]

2hr E

[silver lintel]

2hr e just to cycle

[whole crypt]

it's the shortest you have that doesn't cost cubes and also has a chance to drop q152

if you haven't finished 4 then the cube could still be an option but otherwise not worth the spend (unless you're chip coping)

[silk helm]

why not h?

[whole crypt]

PR4

[silk helm]

ah okay

[winged mauve]

Is there a way to get rid of the full coin notification?

sadge

[keen sable]

spend it

[hollow gust]

Just dump like 20k into cats and no more coins

[eternal basalt]

Same for too much oil... (ugh, saving for Thursday)

[wary robin]

Gold cap still ingame?

[eager mulch]

yes

[eternal moth]

Gold cap is 600k, though, so it's hard for normal people to reach it

[dense finch]

Is alvitr good?

[kindred dust]

Apart from shimanto, are there any good japanese boats i can use for aa in w15?

[kindred dust]

Slightly worse brunhilde

[dense finch]

Like, which tier is she in? 1, 2, 0, EX? I wonder whether should I build for her banner

[eternal moth]

WTF are you talking about?

[eternal moth]

She's a rainbow BB. That should be enough

[shell willow]

[kindred dust]

Alvitr is the new event ssr bb

[shell willow]

shes ssr

[dense finch]

What does the term “rainbow” mean?

[eternal moth]

Oh wait, derp, never mind

[crimson glacier]

isnt alvi like super mid

[kindred dust]

She's a decent bb for new players

[eternal moth]

BTW, JP patch notes are up. New gear listed

[kindred dust]

You're late

[shell willow]

ssr bb doa

[dense finch]

So nothing so crazy about her? Then I should save my cubes

Any ideas when the next UR units rerun?

[shell willow]

jp notes said "next mt", likely next week

[eternal moth]

No, that means the maint AFTER next, I think

[shell willow]

and its vanguard event

[shell willow]

yes

[ashen berry]

huh its over for me then, i have 0 cubes

does anyone have time to look at my opsi fleets and improve them after looking at my dock?

[hollow gust]

Put it in a thread

[stark quiver]

Just save

[sweet delta]

Learn from ur mistakes

[wide marsh]

Do I still need fire extinguisher in world 12 on BB or I can swap for damage aux?

[cedar willow]

is there anyone good here?

[viscid swift]

aside from the 2 obvious ones not particularly

[cedar willow]

im farming XP Lab but both UR are maxed so wanna take advantage to farm XP for other ships

[viscid swift]

use ships then that meet the requirements, need levels, and preferably ones with good tech

[blazing shale]

Any inv links to the JP server?

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.jp/news-item.html?i=1373

[blazing shale]

Discord server

[winged mauve]

Was janus released alongside jervis?

[viscid swift]

does AL even have an official JP discord server
you can try checking #international-port I guess

[wide marsh]

Can type 91 AP (purple shell) stack with type 1 (gold shell)?

[blazing shale]

Okay, thanks for the link though #gameplay-help message

[viscid swift]

the skills won't stack

[cedar willow]

?is nelson kai worth retrofit

[blazing shale]

Yeah

[vale spindle]

the playable character no, the design was though yes

[elfin hollow]

what gun works better on richelieu, nj gun or fdg gun

[viscid swift]

with your line up and Vanguard rerunning soon not particularly

[stark quiver]

So vanny rerun is gonna happen in about 2 weeks?

[soft raft]

Nope, it took her this long to actually become a obtainable ship

And raid events don't rerun so she'll prob be instantly added to Perma light when they get around to that

[ashen berry]

whats the command for the gearlab thing?

[inland shoal]

Did you try /gearlab?

[eager mulch]

maybe something like /gearlab

[ashen berry]

/gearlab
thought it was ?gearlab for some reason

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[inland shoal]

Don't use commands for yourself in this channel

[ashen berry]

my bad

[eternal basalt]

Angry Zuihui noises... Janus didn't take that long

[eternal moth]

[uncut willow]

Do I need to have Azur Lane backed up to iCloud? It’s taking up like 70% of my storage lol

[eternal moth]

As long as your account is tied to a YoStar account, you're fine

[uncut willow]

Nice, ty

[lunar arrow]

If you have 2 types of exp bonus from dorm food,they combine or just the highest one applies?

[rain vine]

they stack

[lunar arrow]

So, it's good idea to stack all 3

[eager mulch]

it’s dorm xp it’s still worse than grinding 12-4

[wide marsh]

How good is Royal Fortune without gear for frigates? Any way to farm cannons for her except for rerun?

[eager mulch]

bad, no

[leaden wigeon]

Can I get confirmation that the PR7 ships are 2 PR DDs a PR BB a DR BB and a DR CV want to make sure I have the retro prints for them when I'm unlocking them

[soft raft]

the DRs are a CV and CA
the PRs are DD, CL, and BB

[leaden wigeon]

Thank you

Don't remember where I got those stats from but they appear to be way off
ed I ment in my original question

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

ddv

[forest palm]

the patch notes confirm that?

[eager mulch]

no

it’s just what she is

[viscid swift]

well, Halford probably will have a plane slot

[eager mulch]

best T9 DD in wows

[viscid swift]

seeing as her Bearcat Floatplane is one of the new gears

[tranquil saffron]

I already have NJ, UvH, FDG and Alsace
Should I try get Vanguard or is she not important?
I'm quite poor on cubes at the moment.

[soft raft]

Is the Tiny tim copium still alive?

[eager mulch]

rocket seaplane

[stark quiver]

you have time to save for vanguard and shes good

[soft raft]

She is very worth it

[viscid swift]

one week but sure, it's something

[stark quiver]

vanny next week?

[soft raft]

oh it's been confirmed?

[silk helm]

i mean, are any URs skippable?

[viscid swift]

most likely
Jp patch notes listed her rerun in the future notices section

[reef flume]

So it's vanguard this week or next week? Cuz they seemed talking about it for THIS patch

[reef flume]

Ah alr

[stark quiver]

i see
no pr7 grind for me then

[tranquil saffron]

It wouldn't make sense to have her rerun so soon after pr7

[eager mulch]

why not

[forest palm]

we have a literal dead week just for PR7

[tranquil saffron]

AL generally bounces from 1 event to another

[soft raft]

counterpoint: They've reran a UR right after a UR event once so

[stark quiver]

rip cube

[leaden wigeon]

They have rerun UR events right after new UR events before wouldn't surprise me if her rerun was next week

[tranquil saffron]

I didn't get zwei but I got NJ

[forest palm]

Vanny is gonna drop on the 18th, and you get 44 free pulls for it

[worldly pewter]

only one was kron

[viscid swift]

all I can say is, it's not exactly unusual to have an event drop the week after or even rurun during a PR season's release

[stark quiver]

whats vanny event called

[forest palm]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Pledge_of_the_Radiant_Court

[stark quiver]

thx

[eternal moth]

JP notes confirmed that her event will rerun after the next maintenance. Not this week, but either next week or the week after

[forest palm]

yup, so 18th

[eternal moth]

I figure it'll be next week, giving us time to start the EN anni at the end of July

[reef flume]

Me who thought it was this week🥲

Whatever the gap is just one week so not much of waiting, I can endure it

[eternal moth]

Wait, is my timing off and EN anni is in August?

[shell willow]

damn 44 is a lot

[silk helm]

yeah last yr started mid aug according to wiki

[knotty dome]

does AA or level advantage affect w15 support fleet?

[wet prairie]

Wait is VG next next maintenance

[tame jungle]

the one after that

[eternal moth]

Yes, the 18th

[cobalt rapids]

aa no, lvl advantage yes
fighter aa scales with avi instead so that one affects it

[wet prairie]

Fk no cubes

[cobalt rapids]

u get 44 free pulls

[stark quiver]

smh everyone pulled this event

[viscid swift]

Yes

[knotty dome]

suchiguma's w15 example fleet alft194 has illustrious in support with hunting bow instead of unique augment, is that a mistake or am i missing something? unique aug would give 5 more AVI, no?

[silk helm]

you expect me to wait till the end of the event to pull?

[tame jungle]

wait, that many free pulls?

bros i think we are cubemaxxing this event

[cobalt rapids]

maybe sushigummy considered the cost of 5 avi not worth but best to ask him

[worldly pewter]

and someone only has the policy of pitying every UR banner

[forest palm]

it lowers pity to 312 cubes

[knotty dome]

i'll try to remember to ask him. but so far as you know, if coins isn't an issue the unique aug SHOULD be better right?

[viscid swift]

Yes, but it's 21k coins basically for 5 more AVI

[knotty dome]

ok thanks

[bleak shuttle]

which stage for the highest drops chance of t3 cruiser retrofit

[viscid swift]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[stark quiver]

x-2 iirc

wait no thats 3 star

[forest palm]

a smart thing to do with Reruns if you want to maximize your tickets is do 3 ticket pulls per day, you get the event mission credit, and you net 4 cubes per day

[bleak shuttle]

i don't know how to use this

[stark quiver]

its rng

[bleak shuttle]

yeah but what stages has the best rng

[stark quiver]

highest u can do

[novel solstice]

Drop rates are not published, including drop rate for retrofit prints. So we don't actually know if 13-2 hard drops more than 4-2... So just do the highest you can for maximum core data.

[worldly pewter]

higher is the best in term of core data that is it just focus on that point

[eternal basalt]

It's announced Alsaca is far in the psast now so why not?

[glossy spear]

If I’m new should I use my wisdom cubes or do I save them? And if I should use them, on what banner should I pull on?

[eternal basalt]

EN anni is in August

[worldly pewter]

save for the highest rarity ships UR
there is a event in 9 days

[eternal moth]

Yeah, wait for Vanguard's event on the 18th. She's one of the most useful ships in the game at the moment. Until then, just do 1 light build a day

[stark quiver]

when was anni livestream last year

[eternal basalt]

13-2 is def better than 4-2 since chapter 4 doesn't drop t3 bps Apparently starts at ch 3 so nvm

[eternal moth]

You'll also get around 44 free pulls if you do all the event quests

[eternal basalt]

August

[forest palm]

August 16th

[worldly pewter]

i heard from w3 onward they drop t3

[eternal basalt]

Yeah, my bad

[strange sphinx]

Arg why August, 1st week of my 2nd year class, wryyyy

[eternal basalt]

Cause sept JP anni

[forest palm]

September 14th

[native folio]

new to the game, is the Build menu basically the gacha mechanic? You build a ship and then wait for 5 hours to see what you rolled?

[leaden wigeon]

Yes but you can speed it up with quick finishes

[novel solstice]

Yes.

Though you don't usually wait for the five hours, the game gives a lot of quick finishers that you can use to avoid the waiting.

[eternal basalt]

Def skip 5 hours

[soft raft]

You dont have to wait 5 hours but yes
you also might want to give this a read before you haplessly splurge all your cubes https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[eternal moth]

5 hours means you got what is likely a good battleship

[native folio]

ok should i save up or just spend on the event banner rn?

[eternal moth]

Save, we have a UR event in a week

[eternal basalt]

18 is the UR rerun

[soft raft]

just save
We've got a UR rerun coming up sometime in the future (possibly next week) and a new UR event in September

[eternal basalt]

Definitely next week

[tribal rose]

Who would take priority in equipping the better DD gun, Emden or Yuudachi?

[eternal moth]

I'd think Yuudachi.

I just thought of something. Does the rainbow fighter mean Enty just got another glowup?

[glossy spear]

Ok thanks

[uncut oar]

Does Kearsarge have any place in any opsi fleet that isn't explicitly for light arbiter at the moment?

(and more generally, where would she go?)

[jaunty vault]

any opsi fleet

[jaunty vault]

yuudachi

[soft raft]

replace enty in the Enty/Yk2/AvP comp

[sweet delta]

Yes, you can pay 15 cores and 21k coins for 0.6% higher interception damage

[uncut oar]

I am not running a Yorktown 2 comp atm

[jaunty vault]

you do not need to tie down ships to specific roles when their skills do not tie them to those specific roles

[knotty dome]

[uncut oar]

Yeah, I know for a fact she works in that role but that's why I excluded it when asking, because I am already aware

I'm just struggling at the moment to figure out a place to put her because I don't think any other meta BB or BB comp-relevant vanguards off the top of my head relies on that burn

[jaunty vault]

you completely and entirely misunderstood me

[uncut oar]

gomenasai

[jaunty vault]

[uncut oar]

Just to check again, there is no viable Vanguard timestop support in the game right now, is there?

(or, rather, at all)

[cobalt rapids]

nothing relevant

[jaunty vault]

nothing viable

[sweet delta]

Mogador is viable

[uncut oar]

I... am unsure if there's a world where you'd conspire to drop Implac and Kazagumo for Mogador and Kearsarge.

[cobalt rapids]

michita

[jaunty vault]

witchim

[strange sphinx]

Witch

[jaunty vault]

no

[uncut oar]

I'm unsure about michita mechanics, so I'll take umi's word for it, but on a more general note how does Kearsarge's personal damage stack up vs Implac?

[eager mulch]

[strange sphinx]

Why do we comparing two different Hull type? Unless Implac is not the one I know of

[jaunty vault]

you can compare damage
... kinda

then again I haven't really compared them so i wouldnt know

[cobalt rapids]

i believe kear should be higher on light

[eager mulch]

i believe implac should be higher on heavy unless she misses her aimed tbs

[uncut oar]

We're comparing different hull types because they can both work in the same role as a support for CV comps

[strange sphinx]

Oh sorry, I use my Implac as DPS

[jaunty vault]

their support roles are different and do not coincide

[strange sphinx]

[uncut oar]

They do not but the other role's being filled regardless in my case. How much would Implac win by on heavy under ideal conditions for both ships?

[jaunty vault]

what's your other roles

cause implacable support wins by a landslide

so we do not need to compare DPS

[cobalt rapids]

consider u could run also hull restricted buffers

[uncut oar]

The two roles in question are ARA and timestop. Kearsarge fills ARA whereas Mogador fills timestop, with Implac, Kazagumo would be ARA

[cobalt rapids]

mog doesnt rly fill time stop

its impossible to sync her beyond 1 strike

[uncut oar]

Do CVs also have that first launch timing thing?

[cobalt rapids]

hpfcr? no

[uncut oar]

No, I mean the thing where iirc a BB's first reload has a different reload time compared to other reloads in and of itself

I could be entirely hallucinating

[cobalt rapids]

oh u mean the 1.5s battle start delay? yes thats universal

[uncut oar]

So I assume then that the CVs are too fast after strike 1 which is the issue?

[cobalt rapids]

yes, mogs freeze is 2 short and planes have travel time meaning u cannot exactly sync them to mogs stab

the only way they would resync is in a cm by coincidence after a ton of time

[uncut oar]

And it's also not possible to slow your airstrikes enough, and even if you could you would be losing sync on strike 1

In which case you also cannot do the funny thing of using implac crossfleet for strike one because that's a 20-22s timestop

[cobalt rapids]

u would have to slow ur planes incrementally for each consequent airstrike

[uncut oar]

A.k.a. the build in theory works, but only in manual play

(until/unless we have a plane setup that reaches 24s airstrike for all 3 ships, on top of a timestop crossfleet that starts at 25s or something similar for strike 1)

[cobalt rapids]

in michita u take her because she provides dmg and coincidentally can sync yk2 first strike timing which is the one where she rly moves
but yes for proper freeze support dont even consider mog

even if u get 24s timing like i said planes have travel time and mog freeze 2 short = desync

ud need the planes to strike 3-4s before mog freeze every airstrike

[uncut oar]

... absolute reload.

Yeah. That'd be an issue wouldn't it

Even if you can get a frame-perfect sync (in theory)

Welp. Was a fun exercise to consider what would be needed for that to work

[cobalt rapids]

abs cd doesnt interfere even if u only sync 1 cv

its just not possible to match the time frame of airstrike + plane travel time to mogs timings + freeze duration for multiple consequent airstrikes

[uncut oar]

I see

[cobalt rapids]

mog timings are like this : 12, 24, 36, 48, 60, 72
lets say u time cv at 21s to match first
then its 21+3 for first airstrike hit ( sync ), then its 42 + 3 for second ( desync ), 63 + 3 for 3rd ( desync ) etc.

[eternal moth]

Are people using YT2 in Michita fights?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[uncut oar]

There's also the small issue (I think?) of Mog's freeze timing actually being variable because that depends on the axe actually landing as a projectile

[cobalt rapids]

abit yes and she can also miss it

[uncut oar]

obligatory mogbad because RNG joke here

[hollow gust]

shes in basically every comp

[spice phoenix]

should i grind for wichita META ?

[hollow gust]

just do opsi and u natrually get it, it takes like 6 min for 3 runs

[uncut oar]

is there anything particularly noteworthy from the sync rewards outside of the META ship in and of itself?

[cobalt rapids]

cog chips

cat boxes

[eternal moth]

META fortification material mostly

[uncut oar]

... cat boxes might actually be a better reason to do that than coggies for me rn

I slacc hard enough to be swimming in coggies and actually don't have good bases for cats

[hollow gust]

lazy commander moment

[uncut oar]

(not even Flame for the most part, outside of my sub cats)

[spice phoenix]

which ships should i 120 for BB tech?

[cobalt rapids]

rld > hit > fp

[spice phoenix]

ok thanks

[strange sphinx]

How much do you have

[uncut oar]

40k+ and basically only spending them on fleet tech at this point, while thinking about content in which fleet tech fodder don't have a place in my fleet (w14~15) or I'm saving up books to bring them up to usable levels (opsi)

[strange sphinx]

[elfin hollow]

Is this set up good?

[strange sphinx]

42849

[viscid swift]

It's fine

[cobalt rapids]

its aight

[stark quiver]

gun could be better but looks good

[strange sphinx]

[cobalt rapids]

consult /plus13 before u raise stuff above +10

[elfin hollow]

I dont have UR guns yet im still focusing on getting blueprints for pr4

[stark quiver]

ah, that guns works fine then

[elfin hollow]

Imma make a thread

[cobalt rapids]

for what

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm Idk I'd make mistake in +13.... MK7, The AA that have hit, White shell and tpose radar are no +13

[stark quiver]

+13 mk7 isnt that bad

[cobalt rapids]

consult /plus13

[spice phoenix]

when does timing matter? (besides slows and helena)

[cobalt rapids]

everywhere

but some stuff can be bruteforced so u wont notice a lack of proper sync(desync)

[spice phoenix]

oh ok

[uncut oar]

You also specifically want desync for mobbing but that's another and easier matter

[strange sphinx]

Well I don't Why I did it, but Now NJ have all +13 except for the Secondary gun

I manage to craft twin 128...now I'm contemplating if I craft The Twin137 or 155mm kai

[loud rover]

EU BBs cant equip CL guns nvm i thought you meant for NJ

[strange sphinx]

well for my musashi

[sage nebula]

where can i find armor types for the guild bosses?

[stark quiver]

Guild wiki

[sage nebula]

ty

[gloomy epoch]

btw does agir not have fate sim? only dev lvl 30?

[undone plover]

no she does not have it

[viscid swift]

she does not have a fate sim yet

[gloomy epoch]

kk

[strange sphinx]

question why It is advisable to go for 155mm Kai instead of Neptune gun?

[sage nebula]

it depends on the context - in single target situations - 155 kai has higher damage. in a mob setting, the pierce from neptune gun might offet the weaker damage

neither is a great gun

for CL guns - generally speaking - you want to use seattle's gun - which is triple152mm - it is a good all-rounder - and then transition them into plymouth gun when you collect enough UR blueprints

[strange sphinx]

I mean my Musashi secondary gun

[sage nebula]

Oh, I'm not sure. Musashi has a sakura gear requirement - but this should always be fulfilled by her main gun - and if not by her main gun, then at least with the white shell

for Musashi's secondary just use neptune's gun. her gear requirement is already met with white shell. and ideally you should also be using a Sakura gun on her

[sage nebula]

are you asking me for my opinion?

[static harbor]

Just got Hind to Dev 30, is it worth replacing Helena with her? Or Agir?

[strange sphinx]

I'm Contemplating if I will make Proto Twin 137mm for NJ so I can Swap the Twin 128 to laffey or Make a Triple 155mm kai for musashi

why the both gun have the same Mats wryyy

[sage nebula]

personally, I don't think musashi is a good partner for new jersey. this is just my personal preference - but each BB has a different speed.

Vanguard is on the higher side of the speed spectrum
Musashi is on the lower side of the speed spectrum

I like to pair BBs that are similar in speed. New Jersey syncs well with Soyuz and Alsace - who easily line-up

[worldly pewter]

do u have enough asw ?

[strange sphinx]

Laffey with Hedgehog

[cobalt rapids]

seattle gun for bb aux

[sage nebula]

at the time i typed that, i wasnt aware it was an aux question

[worldly pewter]

what about recon ?

[opaque galleon]

Is there a 2bb 1 cv or 1bb 2cv fleet to one shot this meta fight?

[cobalt rapids]

theres both

alsace kear yk2 or kear yk2 implac

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm Belfast, laffey and Northampton, my CV are YT2 and Enty while bb alsace for mobbing

[opaque galleon]

Gear?

[worldly pewter]

do u have the gauge green ?

[sage nebula]

cv fleets will have an easier time because witchita has really higher EVA and luck - and CVs can mitigate this with Sirius. so the yorktown fleet with kearsarge is a strong option for this fight

[viscid swift]

is this for W14?

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm wait can you explain it more

[strange sphinx]

well yes boss

[viscid swift]

sigh, just start a thread and post your dock at this point

more efficient than all this back and forth

[worldly pewter]

when u choose a mission to do on the fleet screen
there are 2 bars on the top of the fleet composition

[viscid swift]

also, in response to your original question, the 155 kai is better than the Neptune gun in W14 because it's much better at taking out the kagero ramming ships

[viscid swift]

why aren't you running a healer at all....

[worldly pewter]

don't u see one there

[opaque galleon]

Thanks

[stark quiver]

why are the cvs flag

[strange sphinx]

W14

[eager mulch]

why not

[viscid swift]

considering that's W14...

[stark quiver]

if it works it works(which id assume isnt working)

[static harbor]

Is it worth replacing Agir with Hind?

[sweet delta]

w14 without healer

[viscid swift]

they do different things
Agir is a tank, Hindenburg is DPS who is less tanky than Portland

[static harbor]

Hows Ply as a tank? This is for OpSi btw

Cuz I heard that replacing Helena for Hind isn't ideal

[viscid swift]

I would just run Agir, Helena/Hindenburg, Plymouth if this is a BB fleet

where did you hear that

[static harbor]

It's a BB fleet, and it was a few weeks ago here

[left cedar]

w14 without healer and monofaction with 15 ships

[signal pollen]

Will there really be a pr7 on July 11

[cobalt rapids]

real and true

[viscid swift]

yes, JP and CN patch notes have confirmed as much

[signal pollen]

Will there be a new UR on July 11 or just PR?

[viscid swift]

there will be 2 new DRs released with PR7 if you count that

[eternal basalt]

Old UR (rerun) 18th

[signal pollen]

No, I was looking for an excuse not to burn the bulis on Bismarck zwei cause I was worried a new UR comes out and she gets out meta’ed

[viscid swift]

Zwei has priority over Vanguard

[cobalt rapids]

feel free to mlb zwei

[eternal basalt]

BisII beats Vanguard imo

[signal pollen]

Okay. I will burn my buli in her without fear. Thank you

[cobalt rapids]

shes like number 1 prio among all URs, if a new UR comes that outmetas zwei then shell only be 2nd prio

[eternal basalt]

DRs don't take bulins either

[keen sable]

It's at least the third post of the same failing fleet today with the same response of its bad each time. 🧌

[heady pier]

is this trio good?

or do i still need u-81

[keen sable]

It's usable

[worldly pewter]

why ask after mlb ?

just use

[elfin hollow]

Is Alvitr good

[heady pier]

well i had a random elite one so i would use it even it was bad and i got extra bullins

[viscid swift]

she's okay

[elfin hollow]

Thanks

[slow fox]

Alvitr is mommy 🥺 tier

[noble wren]

if you dont have NJ gun whats best HE boss gun to +13 for BBs?

[viscid swift]

Mk6s which you don't enhance past +10

Monarch gun technically exists but it's just a massive waste of gold plates

[noble wren]

this thing?

[viscid swift]

no, this

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/45_Mk_6)#Type_3-0

[noble wren]

ah the purple one

is it cause the gold one has such shitty reload?

[viscid swift]

among other things yes

[noble wren]

well at least i dont have to spend a shit ton of gold plats then

[wispy creek]

only way to get EXP books is cruise pass and the trickle from the lecture hall right? trying to grind out Fleet tech and really dont wanna farm a gazillion blues

[eternal basalt]

Trickle? Just use lvl 100+ ships

[inland shoal]

Basically
Dunno if I'd call lecture hall a trickle though

[wispy creek]

i mean its like 66 books a day max

and its like 700 books to go from 100-120, so nearly a month for 3 ships is a trickle on just books

[viscid swift]

well, don't use XP packs on ships you can easily level in W12 for a start

[remote yarrow]

Why would yo use that many books just farm in 12-1/12-4

Get them to 70~80 with books and carry them

[wispy creek]

because im tired of using Hornet in 12-4 haha

and there are a LOT of ships to level to 120

[viscid swift]

W12 is not that difficult

[remote yarrow]

Well the game is grindy it's either that or using 1000+ books each time

[wispy creek]

yes, i am aware. ive cleared W15. i know this project is hyper grindy, i was just seeing if there was any way to speed it up

im chasing max fleet tech, which i know is like the final grind

[viscid swift]

there is none, not to mention your main bottleneck will be cog chips not XP

[wispy creek]

luckily i havent hit that bottleneck yet

[viscid swift]

oh trust me you will, so don't rush things too much

[wispy creek]

good news is Fleet Tech Tracker says i "only" need 490K chips

[forest palm]

easy enough

[tulip zenith]

should i do one daily pull of the event

[whole crypt]

ships are pretty meh just do your daily in light

[tulip zenith]

Ok thx

What’s a good w12 fleet with this

[hushed aurora]

Where can I get the chips to upgread my ships to 125?

[whole crypt]

lv100? chip raid
core shop, event shops
leveling faction tech
3-starring ch12 and 13 hardmode

[remote yarrow]

Keep in mind Arrays are really scarce and you shouldn't 125 random ships
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#coggies

[whole crypt]

they're scarce until they're not

[hushed aurora]

I just used them for laffey, alsace and unicorn

[remote yarrow]

Laffey might've been a waste

[whole crypt]

as long as you only keep to top members you'll actually use for harder content you'll eventually run out of ships to awaken

[tulip zenith]

w12 fleets plz

[hushed aurora]

ok fair enough

[whole crypt]

Laffey II is okay to 125, OG Laffey isn't

at least not until you have excess

[remote yarrow]

I think he's new so he doesn't have Laffii

[native folio]

what are the rental outfits? it says I have 3 tickets

[hushed aurora]

I am currently just farming all 3 stars. Just finished chapter 8 and might do 9 but I think I will just farm 12-1 now feels like my ship cant consistantly clear 12-3 right now. Also should I slowly look into submarines?

[whole crypt]

just level up more

[remote yarrow]

Basically what it says, you can use them to rent new skins for 3 days iirc

[native folio]

like should I save my tickets or do you get a lot of those tickets

[whole crypt]

subs shouldn't come into play until at least ch13, so you can start preparing to level/gear them, but they shouldn't be needed for clearing 12

[remote yarrow]

You get 3 each time a batch of skins or event comes out, old ones expire so you can't save them

[whole crypt]

typically 3 per event and they only last during the event

[native folio]

ok so basically just use all 3 every time?

[whole crypt]

yes

[remote yarrow]

if you wanna

[native folio]

what if you don't even have those characters

[whole crypt]

well at least you get rid of the notification

[remote yarrow]

Well you can't use the skins, then again they are rentals so I wouldn't worrry

[whole crypt]

you lose the tickets either way

[remote yarrow]

I look at them as a test to see if I wanna buy the skin

[whole crypt]

I mean technically that's what the rentals are for

[blissful hamlet]

datamine up today or tomorrow?

[viscid swift]

Tomorrow

[blissful hamlet]

[native folio]

when I go back to try and 3-star a completed level, is there a way to make the autoplay kill all the escort fleet?

[worldly pewter]

nope

[native folio]

ok so you gotta do it manually

[worldly pewter]

after clearing the stage u can do some auto then before the boss u continue manualling

[native folio]

should I turn clearing mode off?

[worldly pewter]

i think clearing mode gives u oil cap

[whole crypt]

turn autosearch off, keep clearing mode on

they're separate things

[dense finch]

It seems like vanguard will be rerun in the following update, not this one

[calm rose]

@whole crypt since ply "pathfinder shroud" barrage is in 2 parts. If she gets chained before the 2nd part fire, it gets cancled right? In michita

[whole crypt]

yes it was part of the upcoming section

timed skills barrages are not stopped by chain

[calm rose]

Mm nowonder 2nd strike has lower damage sometimes. Kear doesnt get the increase damage

[whole crypt]

is that barrage proccing per shot or per time

because if it's per shot it's slower whenever Plymouth doesn't shoot but if it's per time it shouldn't be affected at all

lower damage can just be missing, if no Helena RNG

[calm rose]

Ply debuff barrage is time based though. But its in 2 parts. I noticed if she gets chained before the 2nd part starts. It gets cancled. And iirc you need the entire thing to hit for it to be permanent debuff right?

[whole crypt]

as long as the barrage hits at all it should give the debuff, but you may get like half a second more between the first bullet and the last

so if chain does stop the barrage midway then

I'm actually really lazy at checking these things, as long as I get a consistent 75 and preferably consistent 1shots after barrage

[agile sky]

This is the mob team im running rn on 12-1 for research farming. Could i swap in a lvl 70 4* agir with any of the vanguard and still easily auto run or would i risk failing?

[whole crypt]

would help if you could throw in any carriers or more AA

[viscid swift]

and used some better gear

[whole crypt]

also no healer sounds sus for bringing underleveled stuff

[agile sky]

i mean...healers are all main fleet ships and im farming ironblood main rn so no point doing that.

I'll probably just wait until pt2 when i need vanguard exp and swap in unicorn.

also....best gears i got lol

[whole crypt]

and yeh the gear is really bad

[agile sky]

i havent touched opsi so im aware how shit it is ToT

[whole crypt]

no, you're just making bad gear choices, it's not about lab gear

[viscid swift]

I rather doubt that, Bismarck's main gun just atrocious among other issues

[whole crypt]

and if you're farming main fleet XP and can't bring a healer, just forget about bringing underleveled junk in vanguard

Bismarcks' main guns. both of them.

also all using wrong aux

[viscid swift]

yeah....

[nocturne shoal]

Where do i get these?

[viscid swift]

Operation Siren

[whole crypt]

only in OS

[nocturne shoal]

ok thanks

is it a drop or can I buy it

[whole crypt]

by the looks of that are you trying to enhance a purple gear to +11? don't

[undone plover]

maintenance is not today right? should be in ~30 hours?

[viscid swift]

correct

[whole crypt]

it's both a drop and in shops

[nocturne shoal]

fuck i aleeady did that 2 times

[whole crypt]

purple gear only goes up to +11, +11 weapons only get +4% damage and is the lowest increase per gold plate spent

usually the recommended gear are gold bossing weapons to +13 first

[agile sky]

would it help if i swap out ssr bismark with graf? Even if there is a 10 lvl difference?

[whole crypt]

start a thread and post dock/depot

we have more to fix than just that

[stark quiver]

maint is just pr7 release and nothing else right?

[viscid swift]

no, there will be a mini event as well with a free collab skin and 2 new augment modules for Leipzig and Centaur

[soft raft]

And Eskimo WA

[stark quiver]

new mini event?

[whole crypt]

skin event, probably just the usual 2 tasks a day

I'm not sure if it's a collab in CN but it sure as hell isn't one on JP/EN

[worldly pewter]

in the past we were having sam updating the pins now who does that

[nocturne shoal]

should I use this or grind for a quad bofors

[agile sky]

12-1 Farming (Iron Main Rn)

[stark quiver]

nope horrible gun

[whole crypt]

sam only updates the pins if it's a message he posted, what are you after

[whole crypt]

technically neither, maybe state your problem more specifically

[nocturne shoal]

replacement for this thing

[worldly pewter]

usually whenever a datamine or patch note he promptly makes a summary

[main latch]

How can i fix this ? if anyone knows

[stark quiver]

restart game

[whole crypt]

patchnotes no, datamine yes and that will be tomorrow

[soft raft]

Try force closing and relaunching the game, if that doesn't work, go ask the guys in #tech-support

[whole crypt]

network issue, check wifi, restart game

[whole crypt]

what ship and what map

[nocturne shoal]

Noshiro, chapter 11

[whole crypt]

then the AA isn't really relevant

[nocturne shoal]

ok

[whole crypt]

start thinking more about AA if ch12 planes give you trouble

but pompom isn't it, and in this current age not really quad bofors either though it should still work

[sacred skiff]

Anyone knows if aquilia gonna be added to perma banner anytime soon?

[forest palm]

potentially the next War Archive we get, when that may be, no one knows

[left owl]

How important is this event?

[whole crypt]

which one? the current one not really

[sacred skiff]

Thanks for info

[whole crypt]

it's also incredibly easy to farm for 10k points to get the torps (good) and ship (collection)

[left owl]

Ok thanks

[forest palm]

the event gear is definitely worthwhile

[nocturne shoal]

need help with my fleet for ch11 (wait let me create a thread)

[blissful hamlet]

what's the best way to farm grey plates other than scrapping blue gear

[whole crypt]

buying in medal shop, just keep grinding unless you're strictly grinding 13+

coping with B1 farm during events

[blissful hamlet]

I'm farming 12-4 but it seems like it gets lower than it is higher

[whole crypt]

are you enhancing a lot of gear or something

[blissful hamlet]

1h rigging analysis

it adds up over time

[whole crypt]

it does

[novel solstice]

You occasionally see them in the coins shop as well, and if you are at the point of grinding 12+, coins are easy to come by.

[whole crypt]

coin shop doesn't sell greys IIRC

[soft raft]

they're in medal shop

[blissful hamlet]

shops isn't really reliable income

I need more

[whole crypt]

spending more than you get is either you're not grinding hard enough or you're lucky to be getting a lot of 1hr riggings

[blissful hamlet]

both it seems

[whole crypt]

it is legit a problem for lategame players, grey plates

[blissful hamlet]

or should I stop researching lol

[whole crypt]

when you go far enough, your case you're probably just not farming hard enough

[blissful hamlet]

I'll try farming B1 then

seems like it's the only thing I haven't tried

[whole crypt]

no point if you can't 3 or 4-oil it

like how low are your grey plates

[blissful hamlet]

I can

[novel solstice]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#General_Shop
The wiki certainly claims that there are gray plates in the coins shop...

[blissful hamlet]

around 7k

[whole crypt]

I may have missed it, but it's just not regular enough anyway

[blissful hamlet]

oh wait just realized medal shop give 3k lmao

how I didn't realized this

[whole crypt]

more like 300

they're in units of 10 and up to 30 stacks

but yeh it's quite a bit if you're really going low

[blissful hamlet]

well my main gun was around 7k and now it's 11k

what's the explanation for that

[whole crypt]

my explanation is you probably looked at the wrong numbers somewhere

[blissful hamlet]

I'm 100% sure I wasn't cuz I pick main gun cuz it was the lowest of all at 7.3k

[whole crypt]

shop clearly says 10s and 30 stacks of them

[blissful hamlet]

if it's a bug I hope they don't fix it

should I do the lower level of daily raids to get grey plates

ah wait I'll lose gold plates

[viscid swift]

you would be sacking your gold plate income to do so,

I wouldn't take the trade off

[blissful hamlet]

maybe I just have to accept the fate of the boomer

[native folio]

if I already built one event banner ship, I don't need to build a light ship for the daily bonus thing right?

[analog swallow]

can you use the same account on two devices

[silver lintel]

Yes

[soft raft]

You don't but technically you lost 1 cube by using the event banner for the daily compared to getting a refund of the cube for a net gain/loss of 0 of you had done it on light

[bold salmon]

is the breguet worth buying in the store?

[blissful hamlet]

Yes if you're getting to w12 and w13

It's just barracuda that can intercept

[stark quiver]

when vanny was released was pr5 also a thing yet

[blissful hamlet]

Pr5 was couple of months after vanny

[stark quiver]

bruh

[blissful hamlet]

Same with alsace and the next pr

[viscid swift]

Vanny was released in May 2022, PR5 was in July that year

so no PR5 prints in rerun shops until we get to Roma

[stark quiver]

i thought i could get some pr5 bps but

[whole crypt]

Vanguard is last event with PR4 prints?

was it Gorizia raid after that

[steady beacon]

Nah it was uh
Joffre raid

Gorizia was a year after that

You mean Gridman

[viscid swift]

too much stuff to remember

[whole crypt]

Joffre was Angel of Iris right? so already done and gone

[zinc turret]

Random question , did u can clear w15 only with +10 gear & no gearlab gear , cuz lets say someone just dont want to do opsi

[viscid swift]

strictly speaking you can, practically speaking I wouldn't want to do such an endevour

people really overestimate the OpSi grind

The first clear is a bit of a PIA because it's all new stuff and the puzzles but after that it becomes much easier to settle into routine

[stark quiver]

with enough optimization probably, but dont be that oersib

[zinc turret]

Well i do my opsi but just wondering

[steady beacon]

Ye

[whole crypt]

I'm more curious why someone who doesn't engage in OS at all would want to seriously bother with ch14/15

[viscid swift]

completion and collection mainly I suppose

without understanding just what they're getting themselves into

[whole crypt]

I would assume completionists include OS because METAs are also a thing

like you don't have to be really into it but you'd at least be engaging with OS

[zinc turret]

Well maybe cuz Opsi take lots of time to clear all exploreable , hidden , abyss , stronghold

[whole crypt]

it also happens to be a lot of time you don't need to be looking at the screen once you get the setup right

[viscid swift]

said people would do the absolute bare minimum of OpSi to get the META showdown bosses
not not engaging with it but not enough to get anything done
I should know because I was one of said people for the longest time

[whole crypt]

and being able to make that setup would at least partially prepare you for 14/15 anyway

[novel solstice]

OpSi takes a lot of time if you're trying to clear everything every month, but you can get a moderate amount of rewards with a minimum of work.

[glossy spear]

If I just started the game what should I be aiming for?

[whole crypt]

I don't vouch for how much other materials may have been missed along the way but between my main and my rally, the latter got about 1k vouchers than the former by just going auto from last month

[stark quiver]

when did you start taking the game seriously?

[viscid swift]

I would reccomend giving that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[glossy spear]

Oh push to chapter 9 ok

[zinc turret]

Yea at endgame by spending 5k oil & 1k voucher

[viscid swift]

seriously, I would say about when late 2021 early 2022 was when I started to take PR seriously

OpSi though was later still

[drifting wedge]

Is it normal in exercise that BB don't shoot on a CV while gauge is above threshold ? Is it fully concealed ?

[eternal moth]

It means the CV isn't revealed yet

[drifting wedge]

So basically in exercise if you loose your vanguard and only have BB as main then you automatically loose

[steady beacon]

... Dear God that would cause me heart palpitations
Pre sure 3 BBs ganging up might still win here but damn
And yes, she's only revealed when there's the ! and the gauge is completely filled

[glossy spear]

Is it worth limit breaking Portland, unicorn, Pennsylvania, or Helena?

[viscid swift]

yes, all of them are worth limit breaking

[steady beacon]

Also note that there is no way to recover the gauge in PvP

[glossy spear]

Which should be my first one

[stark quiver]

i see, cuz i started in like april of 2020, but actually started taking the game seriously at around march of 2023, which explains my bad progression

[viscid swift]

yeah, your account is older than mine's, I only started in December 2020

[zinc turret]

Unicorn op

[stark quiver]

i think for game consistency, i started end of summer 2023 which isnt ideal for me lol

[glossy spear]

Ok also one more thing in the guide it says focus bulins on one ship at a time so should I use 5 of them on unicorn?

[eternal moth]

You should be limt breaking as you level, but if she's at 0LB, yes

[soft raft]

You only need 4 to MLB
Unless you also accounting for the bullin needed for Retrofit but a dupe can fulfill that requirement as well

[zinc turret]

U need retrofit her to make her usefull tho not only mlb her

[agile sky]

anchorage is the top dog for pr 4 yes? So if i need 100 bp to get her mlb and i have 100 pr 4 bp, should i use them all or...?

The other two are still locked for me rn fyi.

[glossy spear]

Oh ok I’ll focus on unicorn first thanks

[soft raft]

*Correction: she doesn't hard require the retrofit to be considered good, she's useable enough before then and becomes turbo cracked afterwards

[soft raft]

In that case you can go ahead and use them on ancho if you want to then continue coining her to FS5 to make getting BPs for the other PR4s faster

[whole crypt]

more like if you get detected it's probably because the vanguards are there, and by that point there's no way to remove them for long enough to recover

[steady beacon]

... No, it is literally impossible to naturally recover the gauge in PvP
This is just a mechanic of the game mode

... Actually, one method I haven't tried to verify yet is Laffey II's disappearing act, although (i) I have no idea how one could even viably make that work and (ii) it'd be weird if it and no other method worked (edit: verified that it actually DOES work. TIL)

[sweet delta]

do not auto search 9-2 with escort and boss roles

Number of sorties: 50000
Avg mob battles per sortie: 6.530
Avg oil cost: 230.85
chance for Small    4.93%
chance for Medium  52.33%
chance for Large   42.74%
Avg base exp/oil per ship: 19.630
    split 12.567 for mob, 7.062 for boss
chance for 5 mobs:  23.16%
chance for 6 mobs:  31.40%
chance for 7 mobs:  23.48%
chance for 8 mobs:  13.18%
chance for 9 mobs:   8.79%```

[plain saffron]

You mean like do more mobs?

[sweet delta]

sir green name can you figure out if this should go on the wiki oil/coin tables

[plain saffron]

I still don't understand

[steady beacon]

I think it's because uh
9-2 is super congested right?
So spawns might block the boss

[forest palm]

map design wise the flow of world 9 maps is pretty piss, and it's easy to get blocked

[sweet delta]

Your fleets spawn on opposite sides, mob fleet clears a path to the boss, but then boss fleet also has to clear a path to the boss

[steady beacon]

[forest palm]

9-3 is my favorite

[steady beacon]

Ye I was about to say...
Eyeballing 9-3's map, it should have the same problem in principle, I'd think

[worldly pewter]

9th chapter is the worst