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I apologize
October 2021 and 2023

Honestly...
alright, i'll level up shimanto first, and bring down threat level to safe
since pr7 already announced and anniversary also on near
i thought, i can fully clear w15 within one week
EN Anniversary is still more than a month off
Why do you not run bz with cert for mobbing if trying to 3 star?
it's getting busier, especially in August there will be a lot of things that need to be taken care of..
i want to enjoy and relax on late august:D
anw, appreciate for all~
already did it, every 1 run, im changing the flagship
dunno why, nj is more suitable for me
imma be honest...idk how Operation Siren works and the wiki page doesnt really help.
It is the method for how to get Meta ships yes? Besides cruise?
OS is one of the modes to get the top gear in the game
Trying again on safe is prolly easier, fyi this was what i used to 3 star 15-4
is OS more for gear or more for Meta ships?
oh yea i forgot to ask, at that time, did you have good tech
after finishing the story part of OS/finishing ch4 you will unlock the monthly mode for OS
Gear lab mats and gold plates are the main reasons to do OPsi
The os meta ship are only from os so you dont have a choice either way
Big map consisting of multiple zones
Clear zones to secure them
Get rewarded for clearing maps
In occasion random events can happen in some zones when you obtain map coordinates
Random events result in more rewards
The harder the event the bigger the reward
gear is the main part, the META ships aren't the main focus for doing OS
I doubt the fleet tech are that relevant, think i have like 30fp tech for bb lol, cats give way more stats
Its more about your rld
This is what i see rn and i have no idea what my goal is? I thought it was to reach the red thing?
Clear zones witth the red exclamation point since it progresses the story
Your goal right now is to clear the OpSi story
Yes the red thing to the left
that red thing means its a story mission
see that red exclamation mark? follow that and complete all of them, thats the story mission
even without good cats, just passing 15-4 is possible right? i leveled indep to 121 and alsace at 125, brest is 116 and 14 bps away from d30
Does Hindenburg also ignore enforcer XIV shield?
Only go to the red thing in the middle if you want to die
the more stuff you have, the easier it will be to do harder content
I cleared w15 with d25 brest so d30 is just nice bonus, its more about the heal@stark quiver
Ofc its easier with more 125s
when yall say focus is on gear, is it through drops, mission reward or exchange?
Open gold boxes
exchange for opsi, sometimes you get lucky with cat explorations
all 3, you just end up doing everything eventually but youβre not there yet, progress through the OS story missions
I didn't and the answer is actually do everything imo
All of the above
You mean from OpSi? You get gear labs mats from pretty much every where in OPsi which are then used to craft gear in the gear lab
ah i see, ima try to copy your fleet from your thread and see how it goes, i have to just throw cats with "decent enough" talents for now, hopefully 120 brest works
Opsi is a lot of work, though after the first month a lot of that work is 90% afk
You just gotta get through the hard part now
Nothing mentioned about new gear lab gear for PR7 yet right?
Nope
you have more than enough resources and time in the monthly mode to just clear everything it has to offer for the month
We dont typically get any gear announcements until the update drops
Only gear announcements are for gear lab afaik
We don't need gear announcement*
What
That is also true yes
i want better gear if it is available 
Anyway, we'll find out in a few hours probably when the CN patch notes drop
After a few months? Yeah
with a lot of the good gears requiring electronics (even UR BB guns) what would be recommended to use them on? Besides flapjacks/tigers?
/gearlab
should I even use them to craft sextuples?
Check out that graphic, it should help
You only need like 4/5 flaps for w15 though
you need 0, you just want more of them
wyverns
already have 2 wyverns. Any need to craft a 3rd?
3 wyverns is needed as much as 2 wyvwrnsn
Can prolly cope with breguet for w15
you can have 0 wyverns and prolly cope with breguets
but it doesn't change the fact that wyverns are bette
which plane is breguet?
/wiki breguet
its in core data shop
where do u get the other stuff need in gear crafting? The Components and purity metals, and design plans?
of course.

and when do i unlock auto run for opsi? I dont have it but i see ppl on utube do?
Nice flex?
#trophy-room
do trophy posting somewhere rlse please
this one is hidden zone farm, which dont appear often and requires hidden zone logger
clear story
im not flex im using example 
Doesnt seem like it
alright we should stop ganging on the new dude too
i do this to show people why opsi can give alot of stuff and why doing it is good

okay i guess to my earlier question regarding endgame fleets example. What would be a good level/difficulty of opsi to consistently farm and what is a good fleet to run to farm that. I get that the type changes so often but id imagine there'd be some mainstay ships at least?
you can just run your regular mob/boss setup for 99% of the content in ops
Depends on what you have?
I mean asking for the very best fleet doesnt make sense when you probably dont have half those ships
but youd want all your ships to be level 110+
not necessarily
Oh, im asking for other ppls here, like the long term players for examples of what i should aim for in the future. I know what i got rn is nowhere good enough lol
what you use for ops is dependent on your roster
Then again asking for specific fleets isn't really reliable, many ppl use different mob fleets for opsi
endgame opsi fleets are mostly URs
but generally just your mob and boss fleet that you use for campaign is serviceable
its just your strongest ships
ops is actually very easy with decent team building and gearing and levels
which you will also be doing for w12 if you got there
hey mona lisa
since u guys didnt like me sending my ops example of stuff i removed it
i dont see why its a problem but ill stick to the safe side 
I liked it
It's as simple as aim to pull and MLB every UR ship
Speaking of URs...for the DR ships and research ship in general. Yall basically mlb them by slowly waiting 8hrs for 2 to 3 bp from researchs? With like the occasional 10s from monthly shops or event shops? Is that it?
thats the gist of it ig
i mean isnt that what ur supposed to do in this channel?
its useful
mods think its a flex so i suppose it is 
mod check

I mean there's a difference between posting to genuinely ask
And posting to just flex

In this case it's more of the former I assume so
i had no intention to flex but im not gonna argue this

what is perceived can be different from what is intended 
how do you get gems?
you pay for them
π³
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#finite-currency or by swiping π³
Before you do anything with your gems, if you plan to stay F2P don't spend them on random stuff like skins, rings,coins,oil,packs,cubes,etc if you don't wanna screw up your QoL
i dont think ive wasted a single gems
If you are F2P that's a huge waste 
yea, but i play this game mainly for the skins so i think its worth it π
what ive learned is that most people dont play the game long enough for gems to matter anyways
Have fun with -80 dock space I guess 
Am I blind or did EN still not get the cat announced?
i can manage with it lmao
Like in #game-news ? Nope
thats the EN announcement spot
lets just hope the honeymoon peroid after the purchse last long enough so you dont have to experience the regret that comes with this decision
or you move onto the next gacha like most people do
Yeah, if you are gonna collect ships you are gonna regret buying those skins
Since you just wasted mode than 1/4 of your total guaranteed F2P Gem income
is gem the only way to expand docks?
bingo

feel free to point it out brotha
doing gods work
this fleet's vanguard keeps dying on 15-4 third boss, help.. using this fleet to fight first and third boss and only 20% hp lost on first boss
is UR ships very hard to get or sum?
not really
What dies,? Sandy needs to not aa radar
sandy died last
also scepter is always better than bow
I'm just pointing out facts tho 
Who dies
anchorage and unzen first then sandy
no subs
Isn't that fleet missing AA or not? 
Show your support fleet too
ts took too long to fill up, and i never got it from the gacha π
support fleet
Yet another mistake, pulling for permanent URs 
have you tried both circle formation and double line to see if it makes a difference?
You didn't read newbie guide did you?
died on double line
Just use subs and end the battle 20 seconds earlier
someone share it to me i havent read it
i always gacha on event banner tho
try 457 over champy ig, idk how you dying with that
no subs they said
fair
yeah I think I'll try with subs first
i jave multiple ideas why they dying
457 can help with damage over champy?
no 457 has better uptime
more uptime means it helps with damage, yes
Gold plates could also be distributed better, but no use crying over spilled plates
Also, is he killing the two enemy air support carriers first when mobbing?
you can get 30 from guild but that's all free one
yes
that's why buying skins with gems is a bad idea
how to buy skins with skins
so 457 on alsace and use subs right? will try
cats or no cats
where's your manjuu at
cats 30 both
don't go actively for that spark, just play normally and you'll get it eventually. because if you get them right now not like they gonna be usable. because they need 4 UR bulins to be good
what's better distribution of gold plates? I thought mine is pretty good
Multiple +12 and +11 equals bad
so +13 is better?
The damage gain per plate spent is higher from 12 to 13 than from 10 to 11, also if you had a 13 then it could have a greater effect on the stronger slot
Like two +12 flapjacks is worse than one +13 flapjack for haku's stronger slot and +10 for shinanos weak slot
I see
And there is the unfortunate 75 plates spent on Roon gun
If your mob fleet is doing very well, then you should also give better guns to the boss fleet, like mogador gun for sandy and drake or hinden gun for Unzen, moving Unzen gun to Anchorage
follow /plus13 for general good gear
don't have hinden or drakes gun sadly, I'll try mog gun on sandy
Isn't Twin 100 better on her than Mogador gun?
U prolly need jda and/or secondary healer like volga
or subs or be stronger
its at least better than tash gun
not having jda still haunts me to this day also volga loses damage?
jda is free in wa
Vanguard exploding in 15-4 boss is normal without jda
I see 
Suck it up and grind wa
Soyuz gun worth upgrading to +13?
u can manual alsace preload and hold it for 2nd wave instead
not happening
I either randomly got her from pulling or no jda account forever
Then don't complain about it 
I mean it's a good gun, but I'd personally probably wait until I actually want to use it for timing or whatever
How does it perform at +13 compared to Champy? 
Still the only 20s ap gun for kear
similar, timing sidegrade
slightly better than champy at med, slightly worse than champy on heavy
mostly timing gun
is it bugged?
I see. 
Aight, thanks. 
Mostly worse timing 
it doesnt even let me fight it 
Have you tried relogging?
Can't fight something that's dead
ok that worked
Any estimate for next ur banner?
Before the end of the year
September is all but guaranteed to have one, but it's unknown if that is the Next one
I run haku indep for w15 just for the crossfleet,mobbing is harder after all
Shinano is the worst UR CV for chapter 15
Ah guess Iβll sit on her then
TY
But that doesn't mean much
its funny how that statement can and will be used to provide misinformation
done
Add a "but it's still pretty good in many other content"
But Kearsarge is the worst rainbow BBV in the entire game
Well too late
i thought she was the best rainbow BBV in the game
She's both at the same time 
If Warspite is equipped with an ASW plane, does she become a BBV? π€
Even more?
on her usual state she is a pile of sadness
π
is spearfish better than wyvern for mobbing in opsi?
maybe
Anything new about PR7?
Nope, just wait till the 11th
Yes, all of it is new
That is also true
No gear info yet? Damn
Well, patch notes tomorrow
Attendre et esperer
they will have skills
gear can cast barrage ? 
What should i buy by gems?

let me make a guess, they are shipgirl, and new desings
Some can, in a way, ye
3 dorm slots and 2nd floor, everything else into dock basically
That is if you plan to stay f2p
You can do whatever you want if they come out of your wallet
No memes pls
gomen, lack of oil does my brain hurts
Why "in a way"? Also to be clear this isn't secret info you have on PR7 gear right? 

I'm guessing for skills that require certain gun to work? 
He's not talking about PR7 gear specifically right?
Just noting that like RPG aux and Goldburn are gear that fire barrages
"In a way" bc Idk how the actual thing is attributed... like who actually fires it
Like it isn't "inherent" in the gear is it? It's fired by some ship?
is there like a site/thread for ships equipment or tierlist.
It is inherent in the gear. Though yes it uses the position, stats etc. of the ship that equips it. Basically just adds the thing to the list of skills the ship has so to say.
check samns compendium in /guide or /tierlist

for w15 tierlist u can check /w15
Well idk he replied to Naga saying "they will have skills", I thought it was supposed to be a joke assuming Naga also meant the gear with they
B-13 twin gun for DD worth it to buy it? I looked into coreshop guide but it says nothing about gold guns which looks really nice and I lack golden gear right now.
Oh derp 
Didn't follow the whole convo
not worth, use harbin gun from pr5 as sidegrade or use better guns
Just blame nagami
well you know tenrai have skills right
I literally run with purple guns now.
then u got better coredata prios
armor break ?
yeah that's a skill
Like what? Shells for BBs?
yes, check /coredata
imagine . gear with cross fleet barrage skill 
How do i clear the lvl.95 backline disruption?
is there any methods to get gems fast?
topup
what do you mean?
buy it with real money
use 2-3 subs with enough lvls and gear
I kinda run out of torps and cant kill the final boss π¦
or 1 royal fortune then afk 
read the S rank requirements on wiki and dont waste more torps than needed on non-boss
are u shooting only the minimum cargos for S rank ?
Speedrun main compaign for 3 stars/steal mom's credit card.
ok
Yeah just 3 cargo ships and the 2 bosses
that is the only way to get gem right?
are u using oxytorps auxes?
Is investing in warspite worth it?
You can complete collection challenges, get gems from RARE sorties and get some from events.
She looks pretty cute
thanks
what u even need gem for ?
dock space, skins
if u want a not painful experience say byebye to skins as f2p
ok :c
there is a cursed way to get gem tho
Saiun for bossing, Barracuda for mobbing?
spamming low campaign with 1-1 low oil fleet to trigger commision and do the gem commision
Well report back in 6 years when you could afford your first skin from that
for late game stats sure
You can farm affinity in the mean time too.
that why i say its cursed
not exactly but usually ud use good converging planes on boss and good parallel planes on mobs but theres exceptions for both cases and depends on ur setup
no, for the price and since there are straight up better options
u can get her tech without retroing her
yea
Is it like Saiun is less convenient against moving bossess unless i use a ship with slow and whatnot?
conv tb on average perform better than parallel unless boss has special movement to dodge torps
even without slow
Just did it with s grade. Thx
can i report rn
Ok... so what's the best series 1 and 3 PR ship to build
Assuming I haven't done the research mission for PR1 cuz I decided it'll be fun to build Georgia for PR2 instead of finishing Neptune or Roon for PR1
if you need the tech do roon, otherwise imho it dont really matter who you build for pr1
anchorage
how can i get 3 stars in hard mode on the first chapter? my OCD is triggering me but it seems that its impossible because there are no escort fleets?
disable clearing mode
isnt that just what turns auto search on or off?
no
if u use clearing mode the escort wont come out
How does the whole 24hrs swapping research ship thing work?
i see, ty.
Like i cant work on a new ship for 24hrs or i cant swap back?
there's 24hr cooldown once you've started on a ship
eg you're working on plymouth. you now switch to harbin. for 24hr, you can't swap to plymouth or other ship anymore
once you select a ship to work on you cannot change within the next 24 hours
I can't remember if they changed it for finishing a ship, i.e. will you be stuck with the timer if complete before timer is over
you choose a ship to develop> you cant change who to develop for 24 hrs> after 24 hrs you can change who to develop
but its better to wait until you finish the one you are currently developing
but generally you should pick a ship you can finish, then finish that ship before switching
the timers all stop once you swap out of it so there's no real benefit to hopping between ships
Wanna ask, planning to level up independence to retrofit her, where do I put her in fleet when leveling her up?
i'd remove howe
and consider removing the 120s and raise others as well, unless you're struggling without them like unicorn
Got it, also before leveling her up in chapter 12-1, I should make sure the heat level is safe?
id remove hood, replace with nelson, move howe to boss and indep to mob
should be fine even on lethal, 12-1 is very easy
for reference, i farm/level 12-4 with mostly lvl100 ships just with unicorn as a carry when at the start, and it works
yeah unicorn OP 
I see
So no one here knows whether the 24hrs cooldown stays after i finish a ship right?
Cuz rn the ship im working on is missing the t3 retrofit, so was thinking id switch to another ship while i wait on that.
just switch
Gotcha. Feels bad...
tbh you arent losing anything, just switch
even if you'll be stuck you'll be wasting less time than waiting
unless you're sure you can get those prints within a day
if you finished a ship i recall you can just do another one, i don't think 24 hours restiction stays, at least i don't remember it
best way to level up units before chapter 3?
Btw for armor break, the strongest armor break debuff applies or can it be stacked
use them at 2-4
... or 2-3? does 2-4 exist?
should i replay it on hard
you should always do 3 times hard everyday, on the highest stage you can do
you can't beat Ch 3? you should be able just body all the early chapters
i see
hard mode is not really an extension of normal
it's the same maps but harder and with entry restrictions, and you can only run up to 3 hard maps a day
HM is mainly for collecting core data (one of the shop currencies) and retrofit prints
i see ty
Different IDs stack, otherwise just prolong the duration (There is no difference in strength within the same ID [unlike burns])
So basically if Anshan deals armor break and Agir does armor break both stacks?
I see. Interesting ..thanks
usually the one with diff id is called Special Armor break
So far the only ships I have that can or will cause armor break is NJ and Anshan retrofit. Won't be long before I add Agir in in the next few days. Maybe
it stays
(had it happen to me like a week ago)
when start a ship, add cooldown, nothing will remove/change the cooldown
13-1 is good exp for research ?
man, my fleet 4 died in 13-3 in mobbing

hmmmm is skyraider a boss or mob Plane?
How many wyverns should one aim to get on their account? also are wyverns the first UR gear lab gear you should try and make? or what're the priorities for gear lab..
2 is fine before w15
hello, do we have a guide/site on what ships to level for specific stats
yes
thank you
wb the 2nd part of my question?.. if you know that is..
look at picture guide in bot spam, there is gearlab priority pic
imo its the best gear lab rainbow equip
Anti-light/medium bossing I think
You would use tenrai everywhere else
Does it matter how many cargo ships I destroy at weekly supply disruption in terms of loot or i could just "auto" it if i dont care about XP?
have you guys ever spent oil for energy on operation siren? (I have too much oil, i dont want to overcap on gold)
Do I just overcap my gold
Why do you want to not overcap on coins?
It's just a softcap, after initial expenses you usually spend most of your time way above it
I suggest you invest your oil into dorm food. 1000 oil for 100 energy seems bad for me.
hmmm in terms of gold in gearlab, should I mass produce Quad mag or Flap jack?
PR7 coming this week so that's another coin sink upcoming
hmmm should I craft junkers or stick with Ryusei?
ideally you will make both, to swap when you need the difference in timing
Junkers also goes onto AvP
i just realized that i only have 10 
AvP?
August von parseval
hmmmm ic
Any opinions on the gold SSR wolfpack sub for this event?
isn't the sub purple
sub?
not SSR at all
submarine
thanks for the clarification π
oml I thought z47 is sub
she most definitely is a DD
that's a zerstorer
whoops
anyway i dont think any of teh ships in the event are that good
should i make another Ju-87?
yeh even the golds are meh
if you have the spare materials, you basically want up to the number of TB slots you will bring to a boss fight
tb?
torpedo bomber
u-31 is above average puprple wolfpack sub. She moves towards enemy which is good to place 2 mines which is awful
ight ill make another then
above average purple is still worse than gold
Better than nothing
unless you're really coping for subs, but like 2/3 of the wolfpack is already in shops
do evasion rate debuffs stack? like aurora with chapayev
I dont think i can buy gold wolf sub at the moment
the thing is you probably also won't need one
true too
there's no reason to cope with a purple sub than just wait for a good set of golds
but purple subs are good transitional option to farm weekly sub challange in advance
RF?
seems a bit cheesy way of sub weekly, but still a good option. I will keep that in mind
it's better than trying to do it with subs without sub gear
wew, almost there wyvern 
Gameplay-blogging
Well, i cleared lvl65 with just puprple wolfpack. Cant do 75 tho. Need to at least MLB them all and get some aimed torps + aux
I did all sub raids with subs because tempesta didn't exist back then, but the point remains there's an easier option now
I wonder if there is an option to turn off Shinano portrait upon using airstrike. Fluff is good and all but her sprite literally cover entire screen for a good couple of seconds.
No

Why would you want to see the screen in a bullet hell?
Best you can do is not display bg
main fleet ship protraits blocking the screen is an age old problem they seem to have no intention to address
not that it matters on auto 
To dodge some torps maybe?
airstrike clear torps too iirc so you dont need to dodge
Airstrike clears a lot of projectiles but not all of them, same issue is present on BBs and they don't screenclear
if you think the airstrike animation is too long, you can also press the pause button i guess if you are fast enough to wait till its over
this has been moaned about since day 1, I don't think devs care and the game difficulty isn't enough for that to be an issue anyway
Some bosses just spam them so this is not working all the time
Its not a big issue but still annoying
When is Michita getting artillery support? 
should be coming weekend
can't remember if it starts on day 30 or 31, Thursday is day 29
pr7 rainbow gear π
Is there more way of getting rainbow siren coordinates aside from buying it in port and exchange shop?
Not a consistent one afaik
Wuzzat
What
just making sure but lvl125 ships can still contribute to gaining xp for research ship development right?
are we getting any Italian rerun event anytime soon? 
during anni all skins become available to buy again right?
anyone know why my azurlane isnt starting? (cannot play it in the past weeks
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During black friday skins before a certain time (I think June 1) become available again not anni
during blackfriday up to a certain cutoff
ahh, thnx. got the two mixed up since I only started at the beginning of the year 
Hi
Is there a command for opsi shop recommendation?
do u have the compact shop ?
New or old OPSI shop
voucher shop prio is in sams guide
no prio for ports
but its pre reset = buy all
post reset = loggers, plates, mats, ap boxes
sorry I meant the voucher shop I think
How to get more UR siren coordinates? Aside from buying it
okay nice, thank you a lot 
Keep the classified files till next month when you hopefully have more vouchers
You mean zone vi abyssal? Luck really
cat node 
Fml
daily missions too
?
You get a shot finishing each lvl 6 node too
Need more for ur weapon prints
I can get ur weapon prints on zone v abyssal right?
All abyssals, arbiter, cat nodes
Alr alr thanks
Pr7 comes out on the 12th of this month right?
are u from australia ?
11
Hey for opsi I need 4 fleets, right? What should I build? CV/BB/Mob and x fleets?
the 4th fleet can be another BB/CV or crossfleet
Okey so BB/CV/Mob/Cross?
if u need a 4th fleet ull want a proper fleet else it can be w.e
depends on who you have
who is a good alternative option for domitable in support fleet for w15?
check /w15
it's chen hai retro i guess
That means I should concentrate on BB, CV and Mob first before thinking about a potential 4th fleet?
Do I need dev 25 for all of the PR/DR ships to be able to use them efficiently?
go down the tl linked in /w15 on ships u got
d30
Oof alright, thanks
what makes the pressure resistant hull better than the rainbow torpedo for subs?
or do they simply both offer a different ype of performance?
it makes the sub move forward which give them better geo hitrate
depending on fight oxytorp might be better but generally no
ok, so generally pressure hull is better due to more hit on target?
more physical hit yes, not hit stat
yep, thanks
some subs already have skill that move them forward, that's when you don't use pressure
What Vanguards do I want for a BB opsi fleet? Or can I just choose whatever I want? I mean CA/CL/DD and so on
good ships
ply and agir
?
usually its aegir helena ply but feel free to use something else
so it doesnt matter if I use only CAs or CLs, I dont have to mix them up?
u dont have to mix but keep in mind opsi bb boss vang has 2 roles, survive and deal dmg either pers or buff
so the standard template is tank + dps/support + dps/support
and roles arent tied to hulls necesarilly
Okey thanks
i wnna ask(new to azur lane) what happen if your fleet ammo (the 5/5 thing everytime u do a sortie) run out?u cant fight anymore?or u do less dmg
you can continue fighting, but you'll do half damage
ahh i see
i wanna farm 3-4 but idk if my second fleet can handle as good as my main
so get a little concern
any reason to do so ?
is that the most difficult map you can clear currently?
well not that
usually ur commander level won't get stuck until around chapter 6
me get stuck at world 3.... have to get to lvl 20 before proceeding
are u using a full fleet ?
yes
once you can continue on, you should stop farming at that stage. ideally you read this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
the best way to use oil at that point imo would be trying to 3β the maps
i did 3 star so i can get retofit mats earlier
and get max used of the daily 3 times cap
thats hard mode actually.
thanks
yes it is
i think he did everything and still got stuck at w3 because of the commander level 
i mean.... not anymore rn
you can just abuse levels early on yes
the main issue is finding gear and leveling
ahh i see
maybe my way of just max prep instinct kicks in
well thanks
With PR7 coming, is there any change about coinable ships? 
hello, who worth on dossier META ship? i already done with helena META
new coinable ship has always been different from new season in release, and afaik theres no pattern to when stuff gets coinable
if you have a decent fleet and some UR, you can just go for whoever you like
who is the latest one in dossier again~
i think arim
I see thank you for the info 
What's ariM good at again? Mobbing right?
then i would just go for soryuuM > hiryuuM/arkM. for their level 120 tech 
mmm
so there is still the possibilty for them to make pr5 coinable in the next update
?
that sounds like major cope
theres no merit to releasing coining tgt with a new season
coining doesnt get release along with new PR season iirc
coin u π³
Can shields block rockets from bf109?
rotating shield? nope
these does though, the sirens ones
coin usually on CNY/LNY which is next year
Meow?
soup said that it doesn't have a fixed pattern so i got my hopes up 
CNY is the closest we've gotten to a regular schedule since they started doing it
I can't remember when PR1 and 2 got theirs
last 2 years has been like that
PRnew around this time
PR new -1 fs and catchup on EN anni
PR new -2 (and possibly DR - 3) coining on CNY

would musashi out damage nj on light, using a non ijn gun
its for whichita
been running nj, alsace, vanguard, and im short that tiny bit to get 75 points, wondering if musashi might help
Why stare at me I'm shy

nothing in particular but leans to mob, if her zone was longer she couldve had potential
Danke Ren senpai, I thought she had some use
is arizona good
not really
how hard 12-4? im almost done on 12-3
for me it was about the same, i just did it too. maybe a little easier cuz less aircrafts
i see
How hard is it to get 9 UR main gun design plans in a single month of OP Sci?
RNG dependant
unless you haven't done your loggers
and have enough vouchers to buy them
hi guys for the event missions where you cant use a specific hull type when it says multiple that doesnt mean all fleets right just 2 is enough 
i would assume multiple fleets is a misl10n of coalition
thanks for clarifying before i attempted them 
Just do this 
#gameplay-help message
The 2nd is second best bbv if you have her
what if i dont have a single one of those ships 
is prinz eugen good?
@silk helm is boss hard on h12-4?

Just have a run where it's all BB and CA for 3 fleets. Then a run where it's all CV and CL/DD. Clears all those missions
i was struggling a bit, so i moved my tanky units to the vanguard and it was p easy. enty and alsace carried for me and just had the vanguard stay alive
i see
nope, bad

do you need a two run youtube video 
Yes thats my plan
The issue is i have no coins to level more gear so gear swapping around is pain 
i guess cause its hard difficulty some can go gearless
Oh i can just 1:1 im dum 
UR spam here we go
i copied a suchiguma proposed wichita meta BB 1 shot from june 17, is there any updated/confirmed fleets?
also does gear (like FP from guns) affect crossfleet?
some like musashi says dmg is based on skill's level but idk if it really means only skill level or it just omit this?
theres no enemy subs in w13 right?
correct
is there a definitive best ammo type or is it just based on gun stats
based on what you fighting
yes, xfleet dmg is based on the stats for the ship that xfleets and the buffs of the flagship that gets xfleeted
the buffs of the flagship that gets xfleeted
what does that mean? if the flagship has a skill that says +15% FP then crossfleet ships would also get +15% FP?
How to get gold fast, free, no hacks, 100% working?
wat w13 danger again?
no since that buffs her stats but for example if she has a buff like siren killer or smth else that gives %dmg then that would buff it
do the ship that xfleets benefit from self skill stats? like musashi skill2 increases FP by 20%
is the sub oil cost added here if you enable auto call subs or how does it work
pretty sure no since the skill activates in battle, its just pre battle stats
ok thank you
so it consumes more oil than shown if i let auto call subs on?
farm 12-4
that was for wakatsuki person, the oil isnt calculated if u check subs
skills are basically just multiple smaller skills stitched together
For crossfleet stuff, only the crossfleet part is called when the other fleet battles, not all the smaller skills that make up the overall skill
mainly lots of planes
Implacable stop is not boss position dependent for reliability like AvP right?
it is still preferable to have her go 2nd
avp fs5 also not really boss dependant 
wdym by boss dependant
oh i see 
farming CDC2 for agir, will this vanguard live 12-1
The position of the boss
Whenever the boss goes to the corners the followup TB whiff even when synced perfectly
most fleets use a combination of kear yk2 and helena
im out of xp books
you have healers, they'll probably live
I think it is cause her slow is too short
if they can't then just go to 11-1
alr
implacs freeze is longer
should i retro z23 for this
if you want; also retro doesn't affect the xp rate
that's launch order dependent not boss position dependent
i don't have max CV rld or even very close, so i was trying to avoid this. oh well
thanks 
if your torps are whiffing then the sync probably isn't tight enough
most fleets rn aim for 3 strike and u dont need max cv rld or close to it for that
yes it does
ill just halfway retro her because i dont wanna use too many mats
12-4 best farm area right?
Crossfleet skill level
FP stat (base + gear) of crossfleet ship
Damage Ratio Bullet modifiers on FLAGSHIP on other fleet (ex. If Tirpitz flag u get +40% crossfleet dmg too)
overall yes
is this still relevant then? somebody who helped one of my fights used the exact mainfleet setup but used laffey2 helena sirius, not sure if there's any better vanguards?
not really
yea it pretty good and forgiving for your fleet
that's what I'm running
oh i see this is my fleet
the cv after avp has 3.5s to make it to the target
the cv after implac has also 3.5 for freeze but the return is gradual so u have more leeway
if that answers ur question
which part are you struggling with? boss?
I cant login atm but I am sure it was synced properly 
There is Abs CD so cant be tighter than 0.5 right?
go level up those ships somewhere in w12
and then start leveling up other ships that you want to level up
i would not attempt this with low cv rld, this is a 4 strike comp
Im still in 11-1
ngl im fine with boss its just some of my front line at low health at end
do you happen to have the 3strike handy?
farm 11-1 then and start pushing to W12 asap
oh nice, then u can get it to safe and put ships u want to level in there
i see
this is what i use for 2scan 3 strike kill but ur mileage may vary
aight
thats my 3 strike comp
oh sry no reply so i didnt check what you were talking about 
When is EN anniversary guys? 
mid August
oh still one month then, thanks 
any reason why kear is flag and not alsace?
kear deals more dmg and ply buff is stronger on her
coz i only have 2 hvars, feel free to use 3 hvar
thanks
should i convert my ur gear design plan to this to get my first wyvern ? or wait
convert till u have 2-3 wyverns then convert till u have 1-2mk7 then convert till u have 1-2 100kais
aight thankyouu
consider it as getting 3 UR ships in the first multi possible but not realistic
might happen to 1 / 100kth player
of course she is
you could try fixing by using avgas 
it's not even followup. placy will miss if target is too far away. try it against sendai or something
Oooh, I just reached 100% affinity with Alvitr
Should I vow her?
oath who u like
Is there a limit or something?
rings are limited for f2p, consider that
i said f2p
Yeah
gems are also limited for f2ps
I mean
and are not recommended to be spent on rings
I guess
What are the benefits of oathing though?
as f2p u take ur beginner rings and anni rings and w.e devs give em
6% -> 12% stat boost
oath skin/ new lines/ pretty border/ 6% extra stats compared to love
Oof
Alright, so I have to pick carefully huh?
Would Hood or Unicorn be a better choice?
dont oath for meta its not something f2p should do
just do this
Give me five years to get Shinano π
if you play regularly and pull normally it will not take more than a few months
u can get her faster just play consistently and ull eventually guarantee her with 1 year or so depending on SR banners
that's some incredible luck. you would have to 5 pull every event to take that long
Oh AL is this generous?
yea
Damn I underestimated this game lmao
shinano is FREE
you can literally get her from pity, and every pull barring those on UR event banners count towards pity
even your daily free light pull
just have rotten luck and you can have her tomorrow.
I wasted like 38 wisdom cubes on the UR banner ahahaha
permanent banners are traps, stick to 1 light build / day since its refunded
there's a reason we say pulling on heavy and special is a trap
unless whaling and can mlb her with dupes 
Yep realized that pulling on the UR banner doesn't contribute to the pity thing far too late
what UR banner, we dont have any rn
the timed UR banner ?
and limited UR banners are very much advisable to pull for even if they dont contribute to perma pity that is quite irelevant
I meant the Heavy, sorry
heavy contributes, still a trap
Wait what
the number should have gone up but u didn't notice
where's the write up I did
So the only time it doesn't increase is if I happen to pull a UR, correct?
should have read the ingame tip 
Shhhh
if pull on a limited UR banner, because they have their own spark and it contributes to theirs not permanent
it will always increase, it's a spark
wait, did someone pinged me?
~~dw just get NJ on 400 point and spark shinano
~~
Sweet, thanks
Oh I get it. Thank you.
do we know what UR is next to be added? to the perm UR pool
assuming it's a context question, SMKZ
next ship should be Shimakaze, assuming "normal" archive of around 1 year after rerun we're not expecting it till end of the year
but we have no actual idea of when
a totally fantasy Russian CV comming first than a totally KMS CV, unexpected to me
me when mvr:
, me when nakhimov: 
for chapter 15 mob fleet should i use shimanto instead of ogne? (ill 125 her of course and also not all of the ships have gear at the moment)
i was thinking maybe there would be good synergy being NP and having heals and stuff, but yeah i thought that shimanto helping with burns might still be more important
the heal is nice but nothing spectacular, faction buffs also do less than people tend to think
why dont u just use the classic laffey shimato guam
Shimanto also has much more AA than Ognev
putting guam in the main fleet. honestly ive no idea how exactly i want to make my fleets. Im just kind of winging it
this is the first time im even trying chapter 15 lol
have you read the W15 guide in #bot-spam /w15
no but ill go check it out now
was agir tank and ply offtank or other way around?
the former
thanks
what is Max Firepower 
maximum power of fire
isnt that just the buff name
it is
no it's called Full Firepower
translators probably forgot that skill already exists
Is kearsage and Yorktown a back line duo? I just unlocked kearsage but Iβm not too sure where to use her
yes Yorktown II is Kearsarge's best partner
the pair is usually used in anti-light boss comps
her second best is independence, for mobbing purposes
is this okay for the boss fleet (chapter 15)? i think percy isnt the best pick, but im not sure about the survivability of the fleet without her. I have shinano and and haku 125 and oathed, if that would be a better pick
also the gear isnt optimized yet. so the stats may look weird
one way to find out
you looked at the sample fleets in the W15 guide yes?
can stronghold respawn?
yeah but im not exactly swimming in CVs lol
theyre usually bis tgt yea, but kear is pretty good in bb fleets as well
like how long? week?
u said u have haku and nano 125 oathed 
what do you mean by that exactly
once a week, up to 3 at any time can appear
oh nice, i thought it was one time only
and if ure doing the mob - boss - mob strat then mob takes guam
it your main source of purple token
2 + 1 every following monday. you can only see 3 at a time but they queue up. there is no "respawning"
"reset"
i forgot you get extra strongholds at start of month
speaking of which, is doing opsi every other day often enough to stop ap from overcapping or not
i dont have yorktown 2 or aquilla or implac/indom or klaudia. im just missing a lot of the CV's that get recommended
24 hours is 144 AP so you do the math from there 
are the new PR gonna drop this week?
Is z43 good?
prob thursday iirc
average
Nothing really to write home about besides being tech fodder and DD FP tech
I guess start a thread and post your dock then
average trash you mean?
just cuz ur exist doesnt mean average stuff is trash
one of the sample fleets wasnt loading, i got it to load finally. i can do this. Is alsace a better pick over soyuz?
that's a pretty hot take and I'm one of the last ones to call even T3 or 4 stuff trash
if nimi is trash then what about the stuff worse than her
What about z47?
you know Z43 is an elite right?
nimi is z23?
oh 43, i read 23
im dented
both can work just fine
Pretty much the same thing
None of these events ships are particularly noteworthy outside of tech
Bet imma stop building then
to quote, that's a lot of doing things that aren't free win
as a f2p how much dock slots should i buy?
there isn't really a set amount, and really depends on more so if you just want to be comfortable, or collect every ship
also after unlocking the 2nd floor of the dorm how many slots do i unlock for free?
2nd floor mimics 1st floor
oh cool so 3rd slot and beyond huh
Buying the second floor will double your available slots
u want 3 slots on first floor and 3 slots on 2nd for 6 slots full fleet
should I upgrade and give this to Plymouth?
π€
how much is 3 of luck compared to a what FUMO gives you?
Both are equally π€ compared to typical CL/CA auxes
what's the typical? washing machine and hp?
yeah
that's the usual for Cruisers
okk
which world should i train low level characters on? (like just unlocked, level 1, no level 10 skill set)
Dorm
ok
Or xp books
Dorm or exp book to 70
Till they survive in w12
ok thanks
Hey so i got saint louis research done. What other ship should i try to get next on the list?
Roon , pr4 izumo , etc
Roon if you lack enough IB tech > FdG > All of PR4 > At least plymouth from PR5 > Everyone else
what is better for me, full sakura team or mixed crimson axis?
Izumo is pretty good, but only once you're able to get her to dev30 and her augment
Faction teams < best ships team
never a faction fleet
idc, i dont want to use the allies

fleets should always be dictated based on content and the best ships you have available to tackle that content
meh
Have fun missing out on the best healer in the game but welp it's your decision
Well ure asking here
then why are u here
?
so long as you're aware it's a self inflicted handi cap with no inherent game play benefits
im here to see if i should use IJN + KMS or just IJN
They're asking Sakura only vs Sakura + Ironblood + all the other crimsons
Ur question isnt specific enough either way to give u a helpful answer
Full crimson axis then
well its just IJN and KMS ships im asking about
Choosing good ships from more factions is better than choosing good and bad ships from one faction
meh
IJN for mobbing, KMS for boss then I guess. That's the only real option you have
If you don't like the answer to the exact question you asked then 
You're limiting yourself to Ryuuhou for healing
Not that bad, some people make it to 12 without knowing about healers 
I could probably make it to world 12 with nothing but rares and commons, that's not that big an achievement
I believe kms players made it ti 15-3 without healers
hi again, is the Arbiter Hard of Opsi the same ship from Normal?
Increased stats and diff modifiers
he left the discord
I shouldve answered full sakura
Some questions have only one right answer
can I know which modifiers before entering?
Disable fleet lock
Wiki Operation Siren
I mean before entering the map
wiki
Unless it's hermit first month then wiki is useless
I wonder if first month hard hermit would match December's
Arbiter Normal gave me a bad time because she had the anti healing debuff
You shouldn't be using healing anyways
Anti healing should never be an issue if you have a proper fleet setup
that's why I want to know the debuffs before entering, so I can modify my fleets
No, I mean you shouldn't EVER have healers in your boss fleets
use scan on the boss then 
It doesnt cost anything to enter but like said check wiki it has all harby mods per month
I know, I know, but I had to use all my fleets to tackle it down
You have 4 fleets, and only 1 should ever have a healer
Or 0
Meh, I like having Uni in my opsi mob fleet
can I enter the map and then leave without penalties?
I might try subbing her out for Klaudia though
If you enter the map, scan, and leave, there's no penalty
Also, is Alsace or Soyuz the better choice for a BB fleet?
Right now I'm using Soyuz/Van/BZ
If you leave the hard arbiter map, then she resets to full HP
thx a lot 
I dont think ull notice a diff but having both als and soyuz somewhere is nice
real? like UR bb tier?
No, not that good
High gold BB tier in bossing, mid in mobbing

Is this good for light bosses?
Why
Stick with triple 406 mk6
Mk6 is just better
Too slow, and terrible spread, IIRC
4 barrels is not better than 3 barrels
There's a reason most battleships used double or triple barrel guns.
It has terrible damage too, even assuming all shells hit
So what are better heavy armor guns as well
champy guns
Champaign gun/ triple 406 mle
Triple 406 MLE, Soyuz gun, and for Musashi, Triple 410
Mle?
just the name
it's in the name
What does it look lole
soyuz gun is also a good sidegrade to that
you can just use 2 champy guns and 1 soyuz gun
just cope with a 406 mk6 for now then ig
or get Triple 410 for Musashi if she's one of those 3
You can craft champy gun in gear lab
Oh ok
Who should I 125 next?
Alsace
She is already
UNicorn then
not easier than recon fleets and air formations
I crafted my 2nd champ gun
BB guns, especially the AP ones, and converging torpedo bombers are the first priority for +13 BTW
If you can't +13, make sure to take them to +10
Hmmm should I +13 ryusei?
That and Soyuz are the best AP BB guns for BBs; you don't actually need to +13 a 457, even though it's great for mobbing
the UR BB Ap gun?
Do you have 3 rainbow BBs yet? If you don't have 3 rainbow BBs, or at the least Vanguard, then I'd say yes
yes.
2 rainbow BBs atm, alsace and fdg
I think DoY would go pretty well in that team then


