gameplay-help

[jaunty vault]

depends on what parameters you set tbh

alright ships just dont make the cut anymore

[spring bolt]

fair enough, considering all the rainbow bbs

[jaunty vault]

[steady beacon]

Prob fine taken in the entirety of the golds
A bit unfortunate to be stuck with probabilistic barrages in 2024 though

[icy mountain]

should i craft 1 sextuple just for sandy?

[jaunty vault]

sure

[whole crypt]

if in lab I'd save electronics

[icy mountain]

for what gear though

[whole crypt]

rainbow AA, planes

457 if you still need more

[icy mountain]

hmm, ill just craft one sextuple since ill do twin 100 kai first

[whole crypt]

well the alternative would be getting proto cores for PR3 prints
you'll live without sextuples anyway

[icy mountain]

okay then

[wary timber]

So I need opinions cuz I can only choose 1 for now
1: save for wyverns to replace barracudas
2: build XSB3C-1 to replace SB2Cs
3: save for Tenrais instead
4: save for Rainbow Bofors L60
5: build Rainbow Akizuki gun
6: build another Flapjack to replace F6F Hellcat on Enty

[atomic abyss]

2 should never ever be an option

[atomic abyss]

You want to craft 2 wyverns first
Tenrais are from research so they're obtained via completely different methods from the other gear there

Rainbow Akizuki are lower priority than mk7

[wary timber]

True but getting Tenrai parts are a pain

[atomic abyss]

Doesn't matter
Sb3c are waste of mats by comparison
Unless you're willing to +13 them

[wary timber]

But the aviation boost tho

[atomic abyss]

Even then the upgrade in damage is too small

To be worth the mats

Just save the mats for other planes

[wary timber]

Ok I'll keep the SB2Cs. So what about Flapjacks to replace the F6F Hellcats

[atomic abyss]

Well, they are an upgrade
And shd be prioritised if pushing w13-15

[wary timber]

I'm planning on those for general use

The upgrade to 1000lb bombs helps a lot

[atomic abyss]

Well if you got the gear lab mats sure I guess
But they should go to wyverns first

[wary timber]

I mean I can do it now but if I saved for a little more I'd be able to get a Wyvern

[frank pulsar]

if you dont have the ordnance report for flapjack, tigercat is alw an option

[wary timber]

I actually have enough for those and to get more from opsi

I need like 10 more military grade electronic components for a Wyvern.

[tidal pelican]

hi, i wanted to know, are z47 et avra good ? 😮 i'm coming back on the game after a LONG break

[wary timber]

From my time using Z47, she's actually pretty darn good.

[south sequoia]

z47 is good

[tidal pelican]

okay good, because i have a team i tried, and don't really know if it's good xD But it's META Foch, Prinz Eugeun, Z47, Hood, Enterprise and Bismarck

[south sequoia]

Replace bismarck with unicorn

replace prinze eugen and foch with your starter and portland

[wary timber]

Or replace Prinz Eugen with Prinz Heinrich

[south sequoia]

Well no

As great as heinrich is, still gotta get the starter mission over with before thinking of going all in with heinrich

[tidal pelican]

i dont have Heinrich xD

and unicorn too in a matter of fact

[south sequoia]

Buy unicorn from the guild shop

you don't need to be in a guild to purchase there

[tidal pelican]

and replace prinz with z23 ? 😮

[wary timber]

Prinz Eugen does very little damage

[tidal pelican]

oh, i have San Diego almost max, is that a good remplacement ?

[south sequoia]

Yep

[south sequoia]

I specifically recommended the starter and portland because of the starter missions

[tidal pelican]

starter mission ?

[south sequoia]

On home page

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Beginner_Rewards

[south sequoia]

There is a starter mission

[soft raft]

(It's a red ribbon next to your commander lvl)

[tidal pelican]

oh the newcoming thing ?

well, i cant do that

i'm stuck in the "retrieve oil" part xD

[soft raft]

then just like spend oil on dorm food or some shit

[tidal pelican]

well, i know

but i have like 20k oil, and my limit is 5.5k ._.

[inner delta]

time to spam campaign more

[soft raft]

Oh
Grind + buy dorm food then ig

[tidal pelican]

and i don't have porland too

[south sequoia]

Finish the first set

[soft raft]

You can get her from the guild shop quite easily

[south sequoia]

it'll give you portland

that or you can just buy her in guild too

[tidal pelican]

Okay, but can i switch prinz by san diego ? i heard she is pretty good

[south sequoia]

^^^^^^

But in the mean time

I guess so

[tidal pelican]

i already put z23 in the team, i switched META Foch for it

[south sequoia]

if your sandy doesnt have augment (you most likely do not) or she isn't retrofitted, swapping them wont really make much of a difference

[tidal pelican]

oh okay. So i leave prinz for now ?

[sacred parrot]

How many coins do i spend daily for dev

[soft raft]

at most 10 BPs per day

which is like 3k for PR and 7.3k for DR

[haughty dust]

Are Kearsarge and Plymouth good ships for Op Si once I get around to getting them maxed out?

[plain saffron]

anyone happen to know how long the cooldown if you put in secondary password wrong 5 time

i really don't want to test myself

[inland shoal]

I mean sure? They're just really good ships in general

[haughty dust]

ok just going to be a while before I do since I got other ships to work on first. Which btw I thought they were coming out with a PR 7 level? Any news on when that might be?

[soft raft]

we already got the announcements so most likely next week

[haughty dust]

I see that is cool. Yeah right now just trying to finish unlocking Roon since I started but never finished. I plan on finishing unlocking the characters I did not finish yet.

[shell willow]

is there data somewhere on how long it takes an avg player to dev 30 new season DRs ?

[viscid swift]

4-6 months

[inland shoal]

Depending on how hard you focus I'd say sth along the lines of 3-6 months is normal if you keep up 24/7 queue

[viscid swift]

assuming you're doing things correctly

[shell willow]

[mellow remnant]

Do strongholds have a chance of giving you rainbow gear design plans?

[tame jungle]

Check wiki for reward pools, but i’m pretty sure they’re not in the pool for strongholds

[mellow remnant]

Agonizing pain

[tame jungle]

Do your siren coordinates and pray to the gods

[steady beacon]

Also, very small chance to fish from cat nodes
But ofc it goes without saying to take every single cat node you possibly can

[forest palm]

it's good to note that Cat Nodes are independent of all other loot sources, so if you're confused, and somehow got a UR design out of a stronghold, that's why

[grizzled sundial]

Where do i get these high efficicency combat plan ? Never seen it drop be4 and i think i got mine from specific 1 time quest reward :/

[soft raft]

Free weekly pack and operation siren voucher shop

[fresh tangle]

You get them for controlling zones in opsi as well but I don’t think that resets every month?

[whole crypt]

you get them as exploration rewards which are one-time in OS
besides that it's weekly pack and OS voucher exchange each month

[jaunty vault]

one time means it doesn't reset

[blissful hamlet]

how long does it take from starting developing a PR ship until unlocking the task that cost huge coins?

[steady beacon]

Six days minimum

[blissful hamlet]

so six days to gather the coins :ranchSexHodo:

[finite crag]

no nitro moment

[whole crypt]

pretty sure you'll get enough coins from the XP grind unless you spend it elsewhere

[blissful hamlet]

I do spend it elsewhere

[steady beacon]

[blissful hamlet]

[wispy herald]

Out of the four free SRs you can claim at the end of the newcomer quests things, which one is the best?

I already have Hood from the medal shop. Should I get her again so I can mlb her

[steady beacon]

Hood or Enterprise, depending on your needs

[blissful hamlet]

I'd pick enty since you already have hood

[wispy herald]

Alright

[blissful hamlet]

who was the other two pick? illustious and sandy?

[soft raft]

Enterprise > Hood > San Diego > Illustrious

[wispy herald]

Yep

[silk helm]

just got fdg, is it a mistake if i go for harbin next? i have a good amount of bps for her

[wispy herald]

Thanks for the advice guys

But what is Enty generally used for? I'm a bit hesitant on replacing Unicorn with her

[jaunty vault]

bossing, damage

[wispy herald]

Ah so she's a boss fleet ship

[dusty tulip]

unikai and enty do different things
yes she fits more in bossfleet

[wispy herald]

Gotcha

[jaunty vault]

if youre one fleeting, you can use her along with uni

[finite crag]

you dont replace unicorn with anyone actually

[steady beacon]

How's your progress with PR4?

[dusty tulip]

well you can coin FdG's prints, so its' fine to go ahead as long as you have the prints for harbin + PR5 priority in the meantime to get prints for Harbin

Though looking at PR4 lineup first would be better though

[silk helm]

0

[dusty tulip]

no PR4 ship researched???

[steady beacon]

Right, then I second what beth said above

[worldly pewter]

he is still new

[slender heart]

Ancho

[silk helm]

nope, i don't have enough points for anch or mp

[wispy herald]

Sounds good to me

[silk helm]

i could do avp

[dusty tulip]

hmm, you have the tech points for harbin already?

[wispy herald]

Thanks guys

[silk helm]

yeah idk how

[worldly pewter]

do avp while working on anchorage tech points

[silk helm]

ookie, how many bp to max out harbin again?

[dusty tulip]

Ahh alreight then, would recommend PR4 focus for now since it's a very solid PR lineup both in ships and gears.

Start with Abdou's suggestion, after that you can then work on the tech points for both Aegir and Hakuryuu

[dusty tulip]

/devbp look at PRs

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[keen sable]

Avp is pretty meta if you don't have placy and biskii

[silk helm]

okie, so 343 + 165. i could basically get harbin to d30 instantly cuz i did her catch up

[silk helm]

avp good for campaign content? like w13?

[worldly pewter]

think about the addition that the ship will give to ur fleets

[slender heart]

Bossing

[dusty tulip]

AvP is more of a bossing ship. OpSi bosses is where she shines at

[keen sable]

Avp is for syncing bosses

[soft raft]

Her main use case is not really suitable for campaign
she's more for syncing comps in OpSi

[dusty tulip]

Content where you care more about damage and syncinc to maximize damage

[silk helm]

i def need that cuz i went to the port like 20 times during a boss fight in opsi

ty for help all

[dusty tulip]

Stronghold?>

[silk helm]

yeah and the logger thing from end of month

[fresh tangle]

My main line for so long was Hood Enty and unicorn

[dusty tulip]

you're doing good alright, good luck

[silk helm]

wait also is there a recommended number of coin ups to buy per day for fdg

[slender heart]

10 bp, or however many you can afford

[fresh tangle]

I was told 3000 coins but as said, if you can afford more and want to speed her up then go for it

[worldly pewter]

spending over 3k is grief

[fresh tangle]

I think it was you Abdou who told me 😂

[dusty tulip]

7 bp or 10 bp
the less bp u buy per day, the longer it takes to finish coining a PR ship

also farm w12+ and manage your coin expenditures for other stuff

[worldly pewter]

told u what ?

[silk helm]

camping 12-4 for eternity

[fresh tangle]

Don’t spend more than 3k coins on bps

[viscid swift]

it really just depends on how much you can afford
I always reccomend no more than 15 a day for PRs and 10 for DRs

[sharp socket]

anyone got the guns vs suicide boat killing chart

[dusty tulip]

Didn't know these things exist

[jaunty vault]

me neither

[keen sable]

it's kind of simplistic. plygun good

[sharp socket]

i saw it one time before so i know it exists

[steady beacon]

Prob mean suchi's list
No idea what keyword I'd need to find it, though

[dusty tulip]

was it for w14 in particular? or w15?

[keen sable]

/w15

[jaunty vault]

@sweet delta hi

[sharp socket]

im pretty sure it was for w14

[steady beacon]

Can't remember the criteria
All I remember is something like Plygun > Twin 137 > ???

[jaunty vault]

dont we have moggun now

[steady beacon]

Don't ask me where it fits

[dusty tulip]

if it was w14 then it was most likely Plygun > 155kai > anything else

[keen sable]

guess really should have called it belgun

[dusty tulip]

don't exactly remember where I saw it but that was the findings

[sharp socket]

i found it

[keen sable]

let's try mikumagun

[keen sable]

^

[steady beacon]

Mikuma gun still less cursed than Belgun tbh

[forest palm]

just call it 155 at that point

[sharp socket]

me when 155 kai is worse than 155 according to chart

[dusty tulip]

Weird, 155kai was all the rage when I did my w14 clears

[viscid swift]

it is, for W14, those are W15 rankings

[forest palm]

also when the 155mm cannon was signature to the Mogami Class, and not Mikuma smh

[sharp socket]

oh i see

is triple 152 mk25/nepgun a good CL gun

[dusty tulip]

can't relate, just spammed plygun

but alright, good to know

[steady beacon]

At least Mikuma is Mogami-class, so it is technically Mikuma's gun

[forest palm]

it's alright, not worth making

[keen sable]

155 kai only redeeming quality is a lot of he bullets straight ahead. that essentials deals with only one thing. searchlights. anything off angle and fast moving is really sus.

[keen sable]

~~yamatogun maybe? ~~

[sharp socket]

i have a lack of not poverty CL/CA guns

[forest palm]

155 will always be Bel Gun to me and that's just a boomer thing

[forest palm]

I'd blame the progression of PR for this, and the otherwise costly crafting trees, because it used to be you go to PR2/3 for progressive gear

[sharp socket]

actually theres not alot of CL/CA guns that are not poverty

[forest palm]

PR1 as well

[sharp socket]

they tend to be event locked or UR

[forest palm]

could craft some Twin 234s

[keen sable]

you've got a double neg there?

[sharp socket]

i was looking at the wrong thing, theres a bunch that are decently craftable

[forest palm]

Triple 203 SKC is also cheap to craft

Triple 203 Mk IX for HE as well

[sharp socket]

yeah but i need twin 203 skc which are map drop/research drop and i only have 3 of em

[forest palm]

they literally drop from boxes

[sharp socket]

i need the gold ones though

[steady beacon]

Top left

[sharp socket]

is the wiki accurate one some of these blue/purple CA guns

[keen sable]

yes the spread is accurate

[sharp socket]

oh i forgot to see what its sorted by, nevermind

[forest palm]

may as well be trying to read chicken scratch if you're looking at that without good knowledge

[sharp socket]

its late

[keen sable]

exactly how many ca guns do you need for QoL?

[sharp socket]

4-5 would be good

[keen sable]

just use that already enhanced purple 203 mounted then...

[sharp socket]

actually just 4 is sufficient

[keen sable]

it's very good at killing junk. (90% of the stuff on farming maps is light armor and junk)

[worldly pewter]

do u have the alaska and kron guns ?

[keen sable]

is one of the ca's a dland or other ship that can use bb guns?

[sharp socket]

i have kron gun

uh no

[keen sable]

graf spee, heinrich, carl, adalbert? no oh well. because purple 283 for them isn't bad

[elfin hollow]

Is there a place to learn about what gear is safe to disassemble and what gear I should work towards?

[viscid swift]

there's a safe to scrap guide and gear guide in #bot-spam /equip

[wide marsh]

What META ship I should prioritize grinding with orange data pieces?

[frank pulsar]

doesnt really matter, go for whoever you think you need
afaik all of them are arnd average-good in performance

[soft raft]

And if you care about Fleet tech, currently these four are avaliable in Dossier

[dusty tulip]

What's the armor types of the 2 boss nodes in 15-3?

[steady beacon]

Both medium

[dusty tulip]

Alright, thanks a lot

Phew, thought the cute CVL was light armor and thus make AP shit

[rose cosmos]

Is independence a better investment than shinano?

[whole crypt]

cheaper yes
better depends

[frank pulsar]

what should i do with rainbow torp print? make 95 kai or save?
also what should i +13 with torp plate, i got quite a few quad mags, the new quad mag and a rainbow quint at +13, should i start +13 sub torp or smth

i got a tea torp +13 as well

[sacred parrot]

Is Shinano worth the mlb even if not in a sakura fleet?

[frank pulsar]

yes

though her best partner is free from research, idk why you wouldnt get her (hakuryuu)
the third sakura ship can be azuma if you lack kazagumo

[sacred parrot]

Is sakura fleet worth building if i have an mlb Shinano?

[frank pulsar]

full sakura fleet will perform much worse than mixed(half sakura?) fleet assuming both are optimised

[sacred parrot]

alright then. Right after Anchorage.

[sacred parrot]

Noted.

[steady beacon]

Ngl, I'm personally quite fond of the Type 95 Kai
But the biggest question is: do you have/use the submarines that can best take advantage of it?

[jaunty vault]

do you not have any bidders at +13?

[frank pulsar]

nope

i havent touched sub torps at all

as for the subs i use theyre ldv, 556m and u37

i plan to replace u37 with flasher eventually

[frank pulsar]

honestly, i have no idea
i know next to nothing about subs besides basic gearing

i need to sleep rn so ping me if you reply and ill answer tmr

[blazing pecan]

Is there a ranking on the new IB ships yet?

[sweet delta]

Ask the tier list makers

[blazing pecan]

uhhh

Samvaluations guy is the only one I know

[sweet delta]

~~He's mia ~~ alvitr and z47 are average golds or average event golds

[soft raft]

If you're asking about on the ECTL, better luck asking on their server but don't expect any stellar reviews

[signal pollen]

Does agir have a fate sim? If yes, is it mandatory?

[undone plover]

She doesnt have it

[signal pollen]

Less farming for me!

Thanks bro

[sudden blaze]

Is it worth to use these?

[eager mulch]

worth is relative

[sudden blaze]

I've only farmed waifus, but the gear and all that is something that as you can see never cared much (I normally buy it on supply/monthly shop)

[worldly pewter]

how many catapults do u have ?

[undone plover]

How much gold is that

[sudden blaze]

I don't buy them, I got them from commissions
What do you mean by catapults?

[candid meteor]

these

[viscid swift]

These

[sudden blaze]

Ah

I have 14+ this

[viscid swift]

yeah you should be using them on your CVs if you aren't already

[sudden blaze]

I do but I don't use that many teams and if I do I just swap the gear

[silk helm]

u have more catapults than i have gold weapons

[sudden blaze]

I was planning on using that on the many UR's that I have and don't use, that's why I was wondering if it was worth to use.

[viscid swift]

well it depends on the state of your existing gear

I would hazard a guess at probably not though

if you have 14 gold catapults

[sweet delta]

[sudden blaze]

Idk, some are not-badly-geared

[sudden blaze]

Yeah, I know it's bad

[viscid swift]

like I said you probably have no need to open those tech boxes, but please don't enhance gear past +10 willy nilly and +10 that skyraider and Alaska gun

[silk helm]

any good gold guns i can make without the ❌

[viscid swift]

I'm also gonna hazzard a guess and say you don't do Operatrion Siren that much if at all do you

[silk helm]

using the ❌ for wyrms

[sudden blaze]

Not much, yes.

[cobalt rapids]

check /gearlab

[silk helm]

roger roger

[viscid swift]

yeah, that may or may not end up coming back to bit you depending on how for you wanna push the main campaign

[sweet delta]

some questionable things

[sudden blaze]

I abandoned main campaign at 13:2 I think

[cobalt rapids]

is that the cn gearlab tl ?

[viscid swift]

is that CN gear lab priority list?

[cobalt rapids]

i abandonded main campaign for 2 years, w12 is a good place to stay

[eager mulch]

what is cn cooking

[sweet delta]

i also abandoned pushing main campaign for 2 years

[viscid swift]

dumplings

[little tree]

is it common for people to play across multiple accounts / servers?

[eager mulch]

I wouldn’t say so

[cobalt rapids]

idk

[viscid swift]

not really, 2nd account is just those who are done with their main accounts and bored

[eager mulch]

I can’t read

[sweet delta]

i can read your name, you don't have to tell me

[cobalt rapids]

blue border is high prio or smth? but then why seattle gun

[sweet delta]

blue is obtainable from elsewhere

[cobalt rapids]

focket is s rank

[acoustic thistle]

Is there a fast way to get the daily 200 from opsi? Like best area to run or rerun etc

[cobalt rapids]

daily mission drop addtional coords on top

[worldly pewter]

why the goddamn skyrider is at +7 and the alaska gun is +0 ?

[cobalt rapids]

usually just clearing dailies is enough

[sweet delta]

if all you want from opsi is the META ship and no gold gear or gold plates, then play a secured C6 zone

[fossil shard]

What about otherwise?

[cobalt rapids]

then play opsi normally

[little tree]

i didnt know you can farm cordinates i just runinto them doing Chapter 2

[fossil shard]

C5?

[cobalt rapids]

if u dont have anything else left sure

dailies and shiny icons over c5 secureds

[little tree]

IS NJ or Aslce Better for bossing

[cobalt rapids]

alsace is better or equal to nj at everything

[reef flume]

Tbh Alsace > NJ

[stark quiver]

Is there a minimum amount of bps that rainbow face research gives

[sweet delta]

at least 4 bps of the face ship

[stark quiver]

Nice

[wary timber]

What's the command to pull up the research thing again

[stark quiver]

Also, I’m 20 bps away from finishing brest, should I already start moving onto pr6 to finish kear

[cobalt rapids]

finish brest

[worldly pewter]

research

[wary timber]

Isn't this like a God tier research thing btw ? Cuz this just appeared out of nowhere

[forest palm]

would just chill till PR7 is figured out

[worldly pewter]

it is the best time efficient research

[cobalt rapids]

not with ur cubes

[undone plover]

Should I focus gear research more?
I want hindy dev30 + hindy gun ASAP

[stark quiver]

Not with 22 cubes

[cobalt rapids]

why 2 pics

[undone plover]

Oh… wrong SS
216 needed for dev30

[cobalt rapids]

how close are u to hinden

[forest palm]

216 is rather steep

[wary timber]

I ... see. My my

[cobalt rapids]

then depends on pr7, if the gear is very good its better to ship rush and move onto pr7 imo

[forest palm]

we're in the awkward in between of a new PR season

[undone plover]

I want both

[willow oasis]

Are sg radars useful? Shold i even keep them?

[cobalt rapids]

sg radar is good for activating sg helena

[forest palm]

SGR is only useful to Helena

[willow oasis]

Ok thanks!

[cobalt rapids]

if u want hinden gun then gear focus but hindy gun might not be a high prio compared to pr7 gear and ure only abit more than half

[little tree]

Whats good to buy in OPSI shops

[forest palm]

I mean...Napoli could end up being more useful the Hindenburg...

[cobalt rapids]

loggers, plates, materials, ap boxes, purple tokens

[heavy anvil]

Which is a better use for my UR prints, second wyvern or first twin 100mm kai?

[willow oasis]

I have like too many sgr lol so now i can get rid of most of them

[undone plover]

Wyvern

[cobalt rapids]

2-3 wyversn > 1-2mk7 > 1-2 100kai

[worldly pewter]

i will be doing most likely aa before mk7

[undone plover]

Everything if u are active on opsi
Get rid of bad item
Next shop spawn good item

But if u have to choose the AP crates + T3 dev pack

[silk helm]

3 wyverns

[cobalt rapids]

i mean for blanks priority, if u got 9 aa plans randomly or torp plans randomly then feel free

[little tree]

im just starting OPSI im on chapter 2 missions

[undone plover]

Advice still stands
If u are active u will get enough currency to buy all the items in the shops
And getting rid of the bad ones will improve your chances of getting the good ones later

[forest palm]

all ops shops have a finite inventory, so just buyout

[wary timber]

Speaking about wyverns. Which CV or CVL would u give your 1st Wyvern squadron to? Cuz my Unicorn is the CVL equipped with the Firecrest now

[cobalt rapids]

depends who ure using

[forest palm]

Firecrest is worse than a Barracuda lmao

[wary timber]

Main CVs also CVLs include Unicorn, Enterprise, Perseus and Graf Zeppelin

[cobalt rapids]

and depends on content

[forest palm]

you'd give Unicorn the Wyvern quite ohnestly

[cobalt rapids]

are u using perseus and unicorn at the same time ?

[wary timber]

2 different fleets

[forest palm]

[cobalt rapids]

interesting

are u the person with 4 lvling fleets?

[wary timber]

Fleet 1 has Unicorn and Enterprise. Fleet 2 has Perseus and Graf Zeppelin

[sudden blaze]

I don't use them

[wary timber]

Technically BOTH fleets will end up being leveling fleets at some point

[cobalt rapids]

well ships that arent in use have no need for gear

they are just inventory space

[wary timber]

It really depends cuz my 2nd fleet a IB leveling fleet and my 1st fleet is more of a everything else fleet

[spring bolt]

wait, EN opsi shop is still refreshing every 3 days? not unlocking in tiers according to numbers of explorable maps done?

[cobalt rapids]

no, its just for newbies that didnt finish chp 4 and pass 1 reset

[spring bolt]

ah ok

someone needs to update the supply shop wiki page

[forest palm]

sure there's a few pages that could be updated

[plain saffron]

Do you know if it also like that for cn

[spring bolt]

yeah, old school 3 days refresh for who hasn't finish opsi ch 4, and unlock by tiers for a fresh month

[inland shoal]

Yeah we had a big discussion about it, someone said he'd design sth in the end iirc and then was never to be seen again

[vale spindle]

Have gpt generate it, probably will get close enough

esp if you give it an example from elsewhere on the wiki

[spring bolt]

what a sad story, but extremely familiar

[vale spindle]

would only have to add the image names then

[spring bolt]

it's good to have the digital slave around

[forest palm]

does the wiki state Meta Skill XP anywhere? total value, and by level?

[vale spindle]

/wiki academy

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Academy
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Welcome_to_Little_Academy
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research_Academy
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Welcome_to_Little_Academy
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Furniture_Sets/Royal_Academy
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Furniture_Sets/Manjuu_Academy_Festival
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Equipment_Skins/Royal_Academy
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Equipment_Skins/Academy_Festival

Jul 7, 2024, 6:42 PM

[vale spindle]

Nvm it's on the meta lab page

/wiki meta lab

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/META_Lab

[forest palm]

mildly confusing, but understandable

[spring bolt]

it's fine, much easier than CN wiki, to find that info

[forest palm]

iirc ya'll just bookmark pages

[short wagon]

is it a good idea to retrofit nelson? currently my 2 main fleets i use hood and bis2

[cobalt rapids]

shes a very good bb slightly better than hood in most situations but consider if u need another flag bb than hood

for opsi maybe she can offflag on bosses

[short wagon]

could I replace hood with nelson? its for mob fleets

[cobalt rapids]

yes but its marginal upgrades

[short wagon]

are the marginal upgrades worth it

[cobalt rapids]

depends at what stage of the game ure at and if theres more substantial upgrades in other areas of ur fleets u could be doing

[short wagon]

chapter 10 and onwards

[cobalt rapids]

then u should probably focus on other stuff

like pushing w12 for example

[short wagon]

if i have extra blueprints can i still do it tho

[cobalt rapids]

its not about the blueprints it about the time restructuring fleets in lower worlds and lvling her up again for a slight upgrade replacement on mob flag

ur first prio is to push w12 asap and if u have fleets capable of doing it then u should do it

and once ur in w12 u can work on substantial upgrades like research ships

[short wagon]

I think fleet2 is a bit underleveled for w12 rn, they sit somewhere around lvl 102-106, with hood being 118

but as I said im still in w10 so I should have enough time..?

[cobalt rapids]

a mlb bis 2 can carry a fleet of 110s till w12

[short wagon]

i put bis2 in my boss fleet should i change that

[cobalt rapids]

its fine, u can put bis 2 in w.e fleet needs more help, bosses should be slightly harder till late campaign anyway

[short wagon]

also im just curious but why when i asked for fleet help they told me to keep hood when i have a retrofitted warspite which is at 120

[left cedar]

simple than u imagine, she is bad

[short wagon]

oh lol

[cobalt rapids]

hood is better for mob campaigning

[sweet delta]

warspite is better for boss

[left cedar]

pretty sure than hood it will be quite equal if no better than war in campaign till W13 around
ps: for bosses

[short wagon]

understood thx

[cobalt rapids]

how many rainbow quints would u do before 95 kai

[wide marsh]

What is average chance for drop of map golden gear blueprint?

[viscid swift]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[cobalt rapids]

we dont know droprates except akaga

[wide marsh]

Will do for me

[wary timber]

So for AA is it better for say a vanguard formation to all have the same aa gun or a mixed variety depending on their aa capabilities would be better

[cobalt rapids]

mixed or same , depends on content and on guns and what u have available

[grizzled wave]

12-1 or 12-4 for lab ships? which is more oil efficient

[stark quiver]

12-1 for xp usually

[wary timber]

Any recomended ship levels to start tackling w11. The ships I'm facing there are starting to deal heavy damage to some of my ships

[inner delta]

going to be a lot of bomb boat and BBs enemy, lv is idk prolly like 80-90 is enough depend

[wary timber]

I have DDs and CVs taking massive damage at this point

And they're all averaging around lv 105

[hollow gust]

sounds like a comp and gear issue

[silk helm]

create a thread w all ur ships

[wary timber]

Gear and comp. Wait I think I know what I did wrong on one ship

[hushed cliff]

How is the damage difference between these two? Might be a stupid question but I’ve always been unsure how much the flat +20 more firepower makes a difference compare to just the shell damage

I would just use the proto 406mm but I only have 1 at the moment

This is for Belorussiya

[sweet delta]

20 fp is worth about 2% damage for the BB

and there are also hidden multipliers, so you can't just compare 133 to 154

[hushed cliff]

So which should I use

For general use

[sweet delta]

they're similar enough that it doesn't matter for general use

[hushed cliff]

Then I’ll just use the faster one thanks

Until I get another proto 406 at least

[sweet delta]

if by proto 406 you mean this, then it's not worth getting

[cobalt rapids]

just use mk6

[sweet delta]

also consider non-fast guns like just use mk6

[hushed cliff]

I thought that gun was good for on-fire special barrage BBs

Like Marco and Belorussiya

cause you just wanna shoot asap

[cobalt rapids]

using better guns is better

the only ship who specifically likes twin 410 is musashi but thats because shes musashing

[sweet delta]

unless the fast BB gun is desynced from the other main fleet ships and you want desync, using a higher damage gun is just better

[dim summit]

if im maxed on daily meta logs is it still worth clearing opsi zones?

[cobalt rapids]

yes, daily meta logs are like the 3rd reason to do opsi

[dim summit]

k thx

[sweet delta]

What are the first and second reasons?

[cobalt rapids]

1st is gold plates
2nd is mats for gearlab gear

[fathom sable]

I've got a CV cat but should i get the heart of the torpedo?

[cobalt rapids]

no, vang specific talents in general are not worth seeking

[remote yarrow]

Vanguard buffs in cats are not really recommended

[sweet delta]

Buffing kazagumos torp by 3% is not as good as buffing carriers by 1%

[fathom sable]

Vanguard buff cat stay on that fleet and the same goes to the main fleet?

[remote yarrow]

wdym?

[shell willow]

the 2 cats added to fleet both apply to main and vanguard

if thats what youre asking

[cobalt rapids]

u can check ur cat buffs by click the 2 cats in ur fleet formation
if it doesnt specify a hull it means it buffs every1 in that fleet
if a hull is specified then it only applies to that hull from ur fleet

[fathom sable]

What i mean is, say i got a cat that buff the vanguard then the abilities to come should only be used to upgrade the current ability/abilities and the new abilities that i should get is one from the same category such as CL or one that applies to the whole fleet

[remote yarrow]

Abilities you get are random, if that's what you mean, but then again vanguard buffs are way worse than BB/CV buffs

[left cedar]

with luck in 2y-4y u can get a set of purfect cats, u can also do with less, but if u do, consider urself the luckyest motha focka around

[sweet delta]

10y

[shell willow]

the best talents are ones that apply to whole fleet and you should aim to get those ideally
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide also this explains stuff well

[left cedar]

idk if "the best" fits to Mountains in general, or even worst to forest or wind alacrity ...

[shell willow]

maybe not the best wording, just read the guide instead

[fathom sable]

Upgrading is pretty much like "upgrade if there's no new ability that i need/want for the fleet i use"?

[fathom sable]

About to ask that! thank you!

[shell willow]

i meant mt/flame

[strange sphinx]

So what's Harbiter again next reset?

[tame jungle]

Check wiki

[hollow gust]

Medium

Heavy light med

[strange sphinx]

Wew Kinda clutched the Harbiter rn

[hollow gust]

[strange sphinx]

Yeah engrish

Explanation, Cleared the Harbiter but with miniscule amount of time

[modest moat]

Maybe not gph related, but is there supposed to be another DR announced for the pr7 set? Or am I tripping

[tame jungle]

Nakhimov, Napoli

[remote yarrow]

No, there's only 2 DRs that have been announced and it's almost impossible there will be another one coming

[modest moat]

Oh, did I miss an announcement?

[remote yarrow]

You maybe did

[heady pier]

welp now i gotta wait to finish 2m exp

[tame jungle]

I think so yeah, idr if nakhimov was posted on english twitter?

[remote yarrow]

JP Twitter

[modest moat]

I only saw Napoli in the game news channel

Ah, well maybe that’s why lol

[tame jungle]

Then that must be it, so yeah english news channel sucking

[remote yarrow]

DR
Nakhimov - Northern Parliament CV
Napoli - Sardegna Empire CA
PR
Bayard - Iris Libre CL
Daisen - Sakura Empire BB
Halford - Eagle Union DD

[modest moat]

Yeah, I was only missing nakhimov

Ty

[silk helm]

no iron blood ship?

[warm flax]

No

[remote yarrow]

wdym by "😭" there's been IB ships in every season until now

[soft raft]

🦀 No IB Ship 🦀

[strange sphinx]

[loud rover]

the EU DD gonna be interesting, its got a B rank AVI

[strange sphinx]

hmmm Halford gonna have a reconnaissance skill

[modest moat]

It’s a happy day

[somber raven]

hello, everyone

[low juniper]

What gear should I put on Alvitr

[somber raven]

i am newbe

[verbal mulch]

Probably just a barrage of rocket planes every 20 seconds or something. Vanguard airstrikes seem to be really busted if they work the same as CVs

[tame jungle]

Same as on every other bb. Alvitr is not quirky like that

[somber raven]

i need a help with my fleet

[strange sphinx]

Create a thread, my friend

[somber raven]

whut is this?

[modest moat]

Well, make a thread, post your dock, and ask for help with specific activities

[remote yarrow]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips Give this a read first

Then come back here if you have any questions

[somber raven]

i am just did this, now its not so good in 11-th world

[tame jungle]

Troll

[somber raven]

who?

[strange sphinx]

you know, maybe I take what I said earlier

[remote yarrow]

You know that 3/6 of your ships are literally useless right?

[tame jungle]

Don’t feed the troll

[somber raven]

why?

[remote yarrow]

There's no why, Bulins are useless in battle

[somber raven]

well, i think its not so bad

[sweet delta]

@south sequoia theres troll

[viscid swift]

it's completely shit

you picked possibly the worst 6 ships you could have used in the game

[remote yarrow]

ok he's trolling

[somber raven]

its not right

[south sequoia]

[somber raven]

i am literally dont have any troll things

[south sequoia]

How can a newbie own and have this much resources for bulins only and be on the 11th world? I suggest you cut it out or else you'll get a smacking

[remote yarrow]

He's a newbie but he's L135

[viscid swift]

not to mention commander level 135

[hollow sail]

135 just gives it away entirely

[somber raven]

well, my account reg in 2020, i think?
but not so active

[sweet delta]

skip the cut, straight to smack

[somber raven]

its my friend

[south sequoia]

Yeah no

Cut it

[viscid swift]

that's somehow even worse then if you admitted to what I think you just did

[remote yarrow]

Account sharing is against ToS too

[somber raven]

wut?

[remote yarrow]

So you are doing 2 things, either trolling or using someone else's account, which both are big nonos

[south sequoia]

It is against this games rules to share an in-game account

And since you've also exposed the account name.

You could say goodbye to that as well

[somber raven]

its screenshoot, where its illegal?

[strange sphinx]

Dorime for you my friend

[wide marsh]

Dude with funny name do funny buli memes

[soft raft]

Rip bozo, he won't be missed

[wide marsh]

Also i suggest you rename your mewloficer to PIVO

[somber raven]

стоп, тут русские шоле есть?

[wide marsh]

da

[south sequoia]

I've already told you to stop and sent you a warning, do you want me to double down with a mute as well?

That account is already in sights of banning too since you have openly admitted to breaking ToS.

[remote yarrow]

I love it when ppl self report

[somber raven]

for wut?
its just screenshot
its screenshot made my friend, and he send it me,
so?

[south sequoia]

Sharing accounts

You said he gave you the account

[somber raven]

i am not have access to he account

[remote yarrow]

Then why doesn't your friend come in here and ask for help, you just made a big misunderstanding that might get his account banned

[somber raven]

my english not soo good D:

[strange sphinx]

[little tree]

Should I reset talents on this ?

[fickle iris]

You should reset the meouwficcier. It's trash

[stark quiver]

depends what the starting talents are

[south sequoia]

You've contradicted yourself a lot of times and you're trying to double down, I suggest you stop now

[little tree]

Ace and cheif

[stark quiver]

yea u could reset, next time, dont pick a faction talent

[remote yarrow]

Might wanna give this a reead cuz that cat isn't so great
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[sweet delta]

no

[remote yarrow]

Just don't bother resetting it and just look for a better one

[sweet delta]

also for future reference, don't pick the last talent point if you plan to reset

[wide marsh]

i do belive i saw another cat guide

[modest moat]

Does the last talent point spike the cost or something

[strange sphinx]

And here I thought, the only troll here is that guy

[stark quiver]

that doesnt show anything

[little tree]

Wrong SS my bad

[viscid swift]

using it will increase the cost to reset

[stark quiver]

so if cat bad, dont bother using talent points and just reset?

[viscid swift]

if a cat was bad you wouldn't bother investing in them at all

[remote yarrow]

That's why getting perfect cats is a really big coin sink

[agile sky]

How much morale pts is used per 12-1 run?

[rain vine]

2 per battle

[little tree]

What I currently use but not sure how helpful cats are.

[rain vine]

the things that determine if a cat is worth upgrading are the starting talents
if the start talents are bad, then you straight up shouldnt be investing in the cat

[remote yarrow]

All those are awful

Don't bother with resetting them at all

[little tree]

If carrier ones are good this guy is un leveled can swap him in to level

[remote yarrow]

Well that one isn't so bad

Level him if you want but then again read Riceist's guide so you don't pick bad talents like you did with the other cats you got

[keen sable]

10 to 20% if they're good

[little tree]

THATS Pretty Significant okay im pay more attention to them

[sweet delta]

not much you can do

[sweet delta]

just don't pick bad talents like this

[keen sable]

Bad cats are turned into soylent meows

[left cedar]

can be used as cmder one, cuz bishamaru is staff and its pretty decent, but get flames and ace ... its going to be a huge headache

Flames/ACE/Officer Carrier(3)/Mechanic(3) its the ideal for this one

[sharp socket]

i heard about this fog thing in w14, what does it do

[remote yarrow]

Just get the Lighthouse asap and you are fine

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Suchiguma/Concealment iirc this explains it

[sharp socket]

very interesting thank u

[whole crypt]

concealment aside just avoid fighting in fog

technically enemies take longer to break your concealment as well but as is usual killing shit faster is better than trying to tank them

[stoic badger]

which one should i take:
New Jersey or Shinano

[remote yarrow]

Shinano

[remote yarrow]

There's other and better UR BBs so get Nano

[soft raft]

No one really needs that in most mainline scenarios

[forest palm]

HPAA is near useless

[kind needle]

Who should I give my first wyvern? Uni/Percy or Indepkai?

[forest palm]

Uni

[kind needle]

So, Indepkai fine with skypirate?

[forest palm]

until you get another Wyvern, ya

[whole crypt]

1hr cube or 2hr scrap E

[forest palm]

E Scrap if you want to be cheap tbh

[sharp socket]

why doesnt yostar topup take visa/mastercard

[soft raft]

idk go ask #tech-support

[frank pulsar]

what else use rainbow ordnance besides spearfish, 457 and drake gun(?)

[whole crypt]

well it's pretty much coping for chip or q152

[forest palm]

I'd rather go cope for chips in 13-1 than take an H I didn't need to

[stark quiver]

Going back to this, is there a maximum it could give

[viscid swift]

Nothing else for now

[fathom sable]

Which are the best stage to farm for coins? the story stage i mean
I have chapter 12 unlocked

[forest palm]

12-4, 13-4, 14-4, 15-4 in that order

[silk helm]

do we know whats after this event? is it a dead week

[whole crypt]

13-4 is better yield but takes more effort and probably a bit more time

[forest palm]

PR7

[viscid swift]

Pr7 release

[forest palm]

they dedicate a week to PR release

[silk helm]

ohh okay, is there like event maps or nah

[soft raft]

we're also getting Eskimo WA

[forest palm]

W H

[whole crypt]

more like they give you a week of nothing so you can take time to grind PR XP without using event stages

[soft raft]

Yep #game-news message

[whole crypt]

is EN still missing anything after this?

[forest palm]

some collab stuff that'll never see the light of day afaik

[whole crypt]

just forget utaware exists

[forest palm]

there's also the Lawson stuff, Bilibili DDs, some outfits we never got those kind of collabs

[stark quiver]

When Aquila event added to wa

[whole crypt]

did EN ever get nico and stardust collab skins?

[forest palm]

potentially the next WA

[soft raft]

unkown when but it's the next major event in line to be added

[whole crypt]

lawson and bili were CN only

[forest palm]

I don't remember EN getting the Nico Aya outfit

[whole crypt]

stardust unicorn?

[forest palm]

yup

EN Got that

[whole crypt]

so besides anything CN only and nico and utaware then

[forest palm]

sounds about right

[blissful hamlet]

will bayard require both iris and vicya ships for exp grind or just iris?

[soft raft]

prob the former, but we wont know for sure until PR7 drops

[blissful hamlet]

will nakhimov require NP ships or sardegna

[remote yarrow]

She's NP so NP I guess

Napoli will require Sardegna

[soft raft]

tho Chkalov did allow Sardenga for CDC1 and American for CDC2 so it might be the case for her too but 🔮

[remote yarrow]

Oh right

[blissful hamlet]

Chkalov doesn't even accept NP ship

[forest palm]

what was Brest CDC

[loud rover]

i thought she does. isnt it SE and NP for cdc1 and EU and NP for cdc2?

[sharp socket]

does chang chun/tai yuan do more damage than suzutsuki

[loud rover]

french ships, either nation works though its main for cdc1 and vanguard for cdc2

[forest palm]

then Bayard will probably follow suit

[loud rover]

makes sense that a french CL will allow both french factions

[agile sky]

okay im a bit lost rn, if im working on agir rn and i got 3 ironblood vanguard rn, i should be getting at least 1% per run on 12-1 right?

[remote yarrow]

It depends on which one is it CDC 1 or 2? Oh it's 2 since vanguards

[viscid swift]

1% 0f 2.4 million is 24k XP

which is a bit of a push for just one run of 12-1

[agile sky]

ah okay then thats fair. I felt like i saw someone say that 1% per run was low so i was a bit lost why i wasnt moving 1% once every 3 run.

[sullen wagon]

I got agir by trying war archives and using logistics plans.

[remote yarrow]

How long did that take you

[sullen wagon]

Double the exp but double the use of oil is the downside

[remote yarrow]

Cuz iirc War Archives give less experience than 12-1

[sullen wagon]

I did hard mode of Microlayer Medley D3 last year

[karmic pebble]

Noshiro muse or normal noshiro who's overall better

[sullen wagon]

About 12k to 24k exp I've gotten but I was grinding for Bremerton since I've missed the event

[whole crypt]

overall for what

as is usual for muses they don't exactly have the same skillset

[karmic pebble]

Yeah I wanna know if nosh muse has better skills than normal one

It should be noted I'm not using other muses

So the buffs are useless

[whole crypt]

Moshiro's buffs are not muse specific, she's a timed torp buffer

[soft raft]

She's pretty whatever
Her only real value is torpmeme

[sullen wagon]

@remote yarrow took me a month or 2 I don't remember it's been a while lol

[karmic pebble]

Okay so normal over muse

[remote yarrow]

Well that's really slow

[whole crypt]

Noshiro is still the evasion tank with a generic torp buff that adds to less than Moshiro if Moshiro torps are timed right

[karmic pebble]

Bet

[soft raft]

By a good margin yes
But even then you prob wont use regular Noshiro much either

[whole crypt]

more like neither, depends on how you use her

[sullen wagon]

@remote yarrow yeah back then didn't have this game on my phone only on my home tablet

[karmic pebble]

Are there better torp buffers I don't know about

[whole crypt]

Jintsuu META maybe? not like there is strong reason to use torp memes anywhere

[fathom sable]

Do i want to play 4 stages of War Archive daily?

[whole crypt]

no

[karmic pebble]

Is champagne viable in today's bb meta

And Prinz rupert

[soft raft]

Champy is kinda whatever and Rupper is decent on paper
it's just not worth investing in either of them for any form of mainline use

by the time you unlock either of them, you'll prob already have at least FdG, NJ, and other good SR BBs that are more acessible

[karmic pebble]

True

[hollow gust]

Todays bb meta is all URs

[karmic pebble]

But Felix is viable in the DD meta right

I heard she does ur damage

[soft raft]

Ehhhhhhhh
She doesnt really stand out in particular to me

[karmic pebble]

I've been lied to

[soft raft]

Huh where did you hear that from because that sounds 🧢 af

[karmic pebble]

Somewhere in general🤦‍♂️

[soft raft]

moment

[karmic pebble]

Might as well finish her I'm halfway there

[remote yarrow]

Well general says alot of stuff they don't know about

[torpid robin]

Anyone got any gear recommendations for Alvitr?

[glacial heath]

is next update just pr7 and no new event?

[soft raft]

Typical BB stuff

[soft raft]

PR7 and Eskimo event being Archived

[steady beacon]

Eskimo has already been archived on JP right

[soft raft]

yeah
EN is the only major region that doesnt have it archived

[fossil shard]

We’re behind

[soft raft]

We've been behind by only Eskimo WA ever since Shinano and NJ got added to perma

[steady beacon]

Alright, explains why it wasn't in JP's preview
That's good

[sharp socket]

some napkin math is telling me i get 196k coins per week from academy coins and spending all my oil on 12-4 excluding commission oil, -72k for 1 PR and 1 DR coining i gain upwards of 120k coins per week, yet im only getting something like 90k coins after factoring in spending on gear/limitbreaks, where is 30k going

[eternal moth]

I wonder if this means we're actually going to be permanently caught up now

[soft raft]

Judging from the look of it, yes

[sharp socket]

i should also be getting something like 140k coins not 120k profit because of maint mail oil

where the hell are my coins going

[eternal moth]

Gear upgrades, research, limit breaks, there are a lot of places to spend coins

[sharp socket]

hmm might be research then, though i avoid coin research alot

[forest palm]

cog chips as well

[eternal moth]

Unless you're finished with every season you shouldn't be avoiding coin research

[sharp socket]

as in the big ones like soul forming and for ships i dont want

i dont want marco/avp face research, only agir/haku

[eternal moth]

Do you have Imp? If not, you really want AvP

[sharp socket]

i have avp coining

[steady beacon]

You mean Implac

[eternal moth]

Oops, yeah

[sharp socket]

shes now dev30, just need fs5 which will take just over 2 weeks

then i can add another 21k to my weekly coin profit

[eternal moth]

Just remember that if you finish them off you're MORE likely to get Haku or Agir face research

[sharp socket]

my gear upgrades are like maybe 60% done by now so that shouldnt be that large of a deficit soon

the good thing is that theyre not being time gated, but rather by how much i can grind

if i were to hypothetically oath for stats, which one here is best

[soft raft]

Just oath waifu bro
Tatical oathing is only for those who can 💳

[sharp socket]

yeah thats why i said hypothetically

[forest palm]

If you're going to tactical oath you're gonna need to do it in threes for main fleet ships

[sharp socket]

it affects rld stat?

hold on this sounds really useful now

[uneven cave]

[sharp socket]

you saying i can timing adjust with oathing

[forest palm]

200 Aff is 1.12x to stats as opposed to the 1.06 at 100 Aff

It doesn't affect LCK, and Speed

[sharp socket]

so if i oath alsace she can fire faster than soyuz to apply debuff before soyuz hits

[forest palm]

Probably won't be that fast you can go play with bomb's calculator if you wanna see this stuff

[sharp socket]

i think ill just save it until i get a ship that i like alot and has an oath skin

[steady beacon]

If you want Alsace to fire in front of Soyuz, you might as well play with guns than to oath

Soyuz is still relatively amenable to timing with Als
Unlike Bismarck

[sharp socket]

will NJ be relevant to be used when i have soyuz, alsace, fdg and soon maybe vanny

[soft raft]

Not really but she's BB FP tech

[forest palm]

I'd rather use NJ over FdG, and relegate FdG to mob, however you throw in Vanny, then you'd still move FdG

But basically the more shiny BB you have the more NJ, and FdG drop off

[sharp socket]

alr

do the banners cycle between shiny BB, CV, and vanguard options

[soft raft]

We have no clue

[remote yarrow]

wdym?

[sharp socket]

like they do shiny BB for like 6 months then change to shiny CV for a few more months, then shiny CA/CL/DD for a few months then back to shiny BB

[sly parcel]

any advide about war archives ?

[remote yarrow]

By Shiny you mean URs?

[sharp socket]

yes

[remote yarrow]

Have you not seen how many UR BBs there are compared to UR CVs? that's not how it works

[viscid swift]

you mean the perma URs or what?

[sharp socket]

order in which gacha URs get released, is there a pattern to it

[remote yarrow]

The devs just add whatever they like

[viscid swift]

well let me give you order
CV
BB
DD
BB
CB
BB
BB
CV
CV
BB
CA
CB,DD
BB
BB,DD

[soft raft]

there is really no pattern besides that they've been in Feb/May/Sept/Dec

[remote yarrow]

CV BB BB BB DD BB BB CA

[wind hazel]

only thing that has been consistent is CN anniversary=BB so far

watch next year it's not BB anyway

[sharp socket]

alright then so theres no order

[stark quiver]

basically

[remote yarrow]

I wish it followed a pattern cuz then we wouldn't have to decide who to use between 8 UR BBs

[dusty tulip]

Alsace and Soyuz

[sharp socket]

half expected this because there is minimal gameplay focus in the game

[blissful hamlet]

how you know?

[stark quiver]

we dont

[blissful hamlet]

he said it's not BB

[wind hazel]

you're missing the point

[finite crag]

non english speaker moment

[blissful hamlet]

smh being ironic in gph

[crisp estuary]

[whole crypt]

you don't seriously need to decide between which UR BBs to use though, just pick 3 you prefer in the boss fleet and the others are cross fleet

[cursive saffron]

Is pr7 gonna be added next maintenance?

[viscid swift]

yes

[cursive saffron]

NICE

[blissful hamlet]

do you have any prediction for the gears?

[whole crypt]

#al-general 🔮

[steady beacon]

Apart from just checking the WoWs wiki, you could just check the PvP Disc tbh

[forest palm]

Sure we'll k ow with patch notes, then inevitable have to wait for datamine for further details, and then have to physically use them in game to get event further details

[blissful hamlet]

pvp best source of information

[blissful hamlet]

what's the fastest time to finish a DR or UR gear?

I never do cubes research

[wary timber]

So for DDs which DDs are worth retrofitting other than the ones that can be retrofitted to DDGs

[blissful hamlet]

if you already have DDG then none

but the starters is pretty good also you need to retrofit them for rookie mission or something

[wary timber]

All my starters are retrofitted too.

[blissful hamlet]

then no need to retrofit the other unless it's DDG or for collection

[wary timber]

All I have left is Tai Yuan then. But she uses a different retrofit thing than Anshan and Chang Chun right

[soft raft]

yuh

[wary timber]

Ah I don't have the thing needed

[steady beacon]

Fastest I've seen DR done is like
2.5-3 months iirc
Think I was done with Kear just a few days short of 3 months
As for UR gear... well, my best luck so far is about 3 months also
But def people (those who have like 5 or 6) can do it in less, presumably

[blissful hamlet]

should I finish my 3rd hinden gun (46/50) before doing series 7 or should I do series 7 and then finish the hinden gun

[viscid swift]

Up to you

[blissful hamlet]

I hope I get lucky in this 3 days

[steady beacon]

6 Plyguns ready to go except I now need 7

[sweet delta]

When were Q projects buffed?

[blissful hamlet]

you don't need that many, you should've get more tenrai instead

[steady beacon]

5 is more than enough

[blissful hamlet]

:god:

[sweet delta]

When was queue added?

[blissful hamlet]

somewhere near vanguard event if I remeber correct

[viscid swift]

With the release of PR5

[steady beacon]

Ye, with PR5

[viscid swift]

So July of 2022

[steady beacon]

Swear I wasn't even aware that Q projects were buffed
Did their rate of gear drop increase or something

[blissful hamlet]

skill based game mode

[jaunty vault]

serenity on fire today

[whole crypt]

7 plymouth guns isn't enough

[steady beacon]

Which is why I'm going back to PR5 once PR7 is done

Well, unless there's a UR plane; then I'm stuck in PR7 until PR8

[viscid swift]

Instructions unclear, UR rocket fighter incoming

[sweet delta]

No speculation allowed in gph

[steady beacon]

~28 more hours

[forest palm]

Should have some idea of what we're working with when patch notes land

[whole crypt]

well we will at least know what the rainbow gear is

whether we'll need farm it will depend

[jaunty vault]

No speculation allowed in gph

[forest palm]

[wary timber]

Oh right. Is West Virginia and Colorado worth retrofitting now or just good for collection

[steady beacon]

Well, do you need what they provide?

[blissful hamlet]

who's your best BB that already mlb

[wary timber]

NJ, Howe

[blissful hamlet]

I wouldn't retrofit them if I were you

[stark quiver]

does she have 100% barrage?

also shes a sidegrade to other cheaper options

[wary timber]

Hmm

Their skills are close to max now if that's what u mean

Lv 8-lv9 as we speak

[stark quiver]

if im gonna answer just that question, without knowing what ships you have, then no, not really worth it

[remote yarrow]

Neither of them have a 100% barrage btw

[wary timber]

Or should I instead go retrofit Nelson. I'm looking to replace my NC and South Dakota

[stark quiver]

nelson retro

[little tree]

Any of the ships worth getting or just get a bullin

[stark quiver]

just for collection, idk abt eldrige

[remote yarrow]

Isn't Eldridge bad?

If so just collection

[stark quiver]

i dont know much abt subs

[sweet delta]

Why tf do you need to replace NC and SD if you have NJ and Howe already

[noble wyvern]

is there a update in the game?

[remote yarrow]

She's a DD

[wary timber]

Low evasion proc chance and she needs to take dmg first

[stark quiver]

huh weird

[little tree]

what im hearing is a bullin so i can get more tech points

[stark quiver]

i always thought she was a sub lol

[wary timber]

Also NC and SD are flagships of my 3rd and 4th opsi fleet which I do use every now and then.

[elfin hollow]

Can I scrape by 12-1 by upgrading crappy aa guns or do I need to grind better ones?

[echo axle]

You can just grind through it with levels

Guys, is this decent enough for 12-4 cuz she keeps getting destroyed at the boss

[worldly pewter]

save

[stark quiver]

no its not

[echo axle]

I have no better gear 😔 It also depends on the level doesn't it?

[stark quiver]

youd want a bb aux, not the sg radar

[agile sky]

could i see a few examples of yalls endgame fleets?

[echo axle]

Aight, thanks, I guess that was a lil cursed for you to see 💀

[remote yarrow]

Define endgame

[stark quiver]

its different for every situation

[worldly pewter]

meta showdown 1 shot fleet for example

[stark quiver]

something like a high standard fire control radar, if you can a triple 155 cl gun, but that gun isnt that bad for secondary

[viscid swift]

Gear could be better but the rest of your fleet is probably really shit

[echo axle]

maybe

[worldly pewter]

yeah u want musasi to carry u in a plane heavy chapter

[echo axle]

I'm getting there, just more time to farm to get my gear crafting

[worldly pewter]

at least have 2 fleets
decently geared
and keep the AS to a decent level

[agile sky]

can handle meta showdown and can clear event SP stage consistently.

[viscid swift]

What even is the rest of your fleet

[wind hazel]

inb4 3 BB

[stark quiver]

1 fleet is possible for 12-4

[viscid swift]

A level 111 Musashi with half decent gear should be pulling a lot of weight

[remote yarrow]

Those are two really diferent fleets SP is way easier than Lv 15 meta showdown

[echo axle]

Ummm, Enty, Uni, Portland, Bremy and Sandy

[viscid swift]

Are you still one fleeting

[echo axle]

2 fleets, my other fleet is carried by Zwei and uhhhh Volga

[eager mulch]

marvel movie

[viscid swift]

Why is Unicorn in the boss fleet then....

[remote yarrow]

That's my joke

[eager mulch]

our*

[wind hazel]

im surprised you're not winning 12-4 with those ships

[viscid swift]

Also what gear, levels, and limit breaks are we dealing with

[echo axle]

I have to keep them heals up cuz my sushi kept being unalived by boss

[echo axle]

Most of the ships are Lvl 120, only sushi is 111

[wind hazel]

how

[viscid swift]

Unicorn literally only heals main fleets for her first airstrike

[sweet delta]

did you remember to put gear on your ships?

[echo axle]

I just started my sushi grind thats why The rest been there since i started

[viscid swift]

Also if you're failing with 120s in w12 your gear is really really shit

[wind hazel]

here's an idea. put musashi unicorn mob, zwei volga boss. go try that

if you're still losing, idk

[viscid swift]

SP is just Unicorn plus a DDG

Meta showdown fleets change from each showdown

[echo axle]

Perhaps

[viscid swift]

Like, what gear is everyone even running

Show it, I'm genuinely curious at this point

[eager mulch]

picture time

[echo axle]

I forgot to upgrade my Volga mind me

[finite crag]

Huh

[remote yarrow]

How is this failing

[eager mulch]

could be worse

[worldly pewter]

i thought u said that ur boss fleet that is keeping to fail

[drifting pecan]

is there any alternative aa oriented ship for mob w15?
(already using sandikai for bossfleet)
(shimanto and brest currently still on 110ish)

trying to get 3star but always get rekted on last mob

[viscid swift]

Still have no idea how you're failing to clear w12

[worldly pewter]

that is his mob fleet

[stark quiver]

theres guam, laffey 2

[finite crag]

Level them then theres no rush

[echo axle]

I think it's my boss fleet, let me switch some things around

[remote yarrow]

Perhaps he's leaving it afk but in manual? so no salvos nor airstrikes

[remote yarrow]

He just said he just geared his Volga with no enhances

[frank pulsar]

my advice is dont cut corners for w15, grind out the gear and upgrades you need before you do it
alternative to shimanto and sandy is literally just guam and laffii

[stark quiver]

how will juneu retro do in w15

[drifting pecan]

already use and pair them up, always ended in last mob

[frank pulsar]

she'll prob explode

iirc shes pretty squish

[stark quiver]

i mean theres always cheshire

[eager mulch]

at least she’ll heal the others when she does

[wind hazel]

eh, i've seen people use her and winning

[worldly pewter]

i read this TBH and assumed he was already using volga

[eager mulch]

.

[frank pulsar]

its not gonna work for 3*

[echo axle]

I apologize for not elaborating

[worldly pewter]

do u have a tenrai ?

[drifting pecan]

woah, never think it before

i'll try it

[echo axle]

Not at all, I don't even have enough blueprints to craft it

[wind hazel]

@fickle scarab did you 3* with juneau?

[worldly pewter]

the dive bomber u are using won't help u against the enemy planes

[frank pulsar]

is that on safe or lethal

[wind hazel]

lethal

[stark quiver]

wait whos in your mob fleet

[eager mulch]

how will tenrai change that

[viscid swift]

That's hardly make or break in W12

[echo axle]

Should I switch it for other bombers?

[viscid swift]

With lvl 120 ships

[frank pulsar]

the db is literally the smallest of his issues rn, getting a better fighter or getting his stuff to +10 would make a much bigger difference

[eager mulch]

I think it’s 🧵time

[viscid swift]

You should be using a Helldiver instead but that's beside the point

Yes quite, post the gear fro all the ships being used in a thread

[echo axle]

Let me see, Im back at boss fleet, lets see if i can beat it this time 💀

[viscid swift]

And probably your depot as well, include gear equipped on ships by tapping equipped on

[drifting pecan]

main = nj, unikai, aquila
mob = guam, lafey2, JDA

[stark quiver]

try putting shimanto in mob fleet, and put her in the middle, when shes leveled up btw

[silver lintel]

No shimanto= cope against bb mob

[viscid swift]

Are you using subs and is the map in safe

[little tree]

okay what should i save for

[stark quiver]

if you dont need it atm, dont get it

[fickle scarab]

That I did, brest Juneau harbin

[drifting pecan]

map threat are medium, and yes im using subs

bout shimanto, she still on 112, i forget to level her up, since im too focused for wichita raid, and level up other ship

[finite crag]

Then just level her up? W15 isnt going away

[viscid swift]

Get it down to safe first before trying to 3 star

[stark quiver]

how well does harbin perform in w15?

[echo axle]

Let's go, I finally beat 12-4 Thank you so much guys for the help. I swtiched around some gear and found out that my frontliner's ships were unequipped cuz I had to unequip them when I was switching gears for my Sushi

[sweet delta]

[viscid swift]

You're missing some damage reduction and all the damage buffs