gameplay-help

[keen sable]

i assume sr retro means sr to ur not elite to sr?

[spice phoenix]

yes

[fresh tangle]

406mm is the one just to make sure yeah?

And follow up: Alsace would be a good BB to put it on? It’s either Alsace hood or Nelson

[keen sable]

it's terrible against light...

[sweet delta]

a clearer CN video (clear as in distance, not resolution ) they used harbin gun.
But really it should be easiest to see with single 113 or blue 76

[spice phoenix]

any ideas with what to do with weekly universal bulins?

[sweet delta]

spend them

[spice phoenix]

on what? i’ve already finished most retrofits that are worth it

[sweet delta]

have you max limit broken every Elite and lower rarity ship?

[spice phoenix]

no

[sweet delta]

most of them are tech you'll eventually want to get to level 120

[spice phoenix]

ok thanks

[rocky fjord]

were the tempesta frigates + ARs able to do all the hardmode restriction missions at once?

[warm flax]

Is uvh a better mobber than indep

[sweet delta]

BBV IXm IXv AR AE SS IXs SSV

if there are suicide boats and the other 2 don't have suicide boat defense, then UvH would indeed likely be better than independence

[keen sable]

#gameplay-help message

oh umm no kears hmm

[warm flax]

What about opsi, would anyone be likely faster to clear

[keen sable]

or 2nd hmm

[sweet delta]

uvh is very slow because of BB bullet time

[rocky fjord]

if bbv allowed for missions, then it's good

[sweet delta]

one of the fastest for most able players is Aquila Unicorn and a 50% load time carrier

the 50% can be the 70% independence for crossfleet

[warm flax]

I heard last time that Chise is good

[sweet delta]

chise would be a sidegrade to aquila

[warm flax]

So it's okay to run 3 cvs

[sweet delta]

could fail to strongholds if you're not strong

[warm flax]

Well soloable with fdg in middle, maybe I shouldn't bother changing it really

[spring bolt]

@sweet delta i tested a few guns
for 76/single 113, the bug was happening almost constantly
for rainbow twin 100, the bug was there only for first 2 salvos, when thrid salvos for the 2 mounts were fired, no bug
for mog gun, only for first salvos
for cl guns, not happening at all

[sweet delta]

expected, short time between two mounts = bug

twin 100 and mog gun will drift apart, but if you go out of range of the boss, wait for both mounts to reload, and reenter range, the bug will appear again

[spring bolt]

yup, very familiar taste of al 🍝

[warm flax]

3rd wyvern or 2nd twin57

[keen sable]

sandy is always the poster child for this 🍝 shouldn't attilio have this?

[sweet delta]

attilio barrage has no volley time

[spring bolt]

am i out of my mind or i just saw attilio lost a gun mount when using single 113?

also happens with blue 76...

seems also happening to other duo gun mount dds
and sandy as well

[sweet delta]

maybe you're out of your mind

[spring bolt]

https://streamable.com/otk3a8
lost 1 gun mount in every 2 salvos

[sweet delta]

that is expected

it's actually 1 2 pause 1 pause 2 1 pause 2 pause [repeat], not 1 2 pause 1 pause 1 2 pause 1 pause

[spring bolt]

well in my video it's 2 1 pause, repeat, one cycle is a little more that 1 second...

[meager gyro]

is this ok?

[elfin hollow]

Change to dps gun

[candid meteor]

do you have a purple toolkit> and are you in stag that you need anti sub for

[meager gyro]

No

[candid meteor]

for both questions?

[meager gyro]

To what now?

[meager gyro]

First part, no clue what the other part is supposed to mean

[candid meteor]

as in are you in a stage that has submarines

[whole crypt]

pretty sure he's not

[elfin hollow]

Copy this https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/dd

[candid meteor]

yea iirc you're in chapter 11, which has no submarines? so you can switch hedgehog for something else

[meager gyro]

Idfk

[candid meteor]

you're still on 11-3 right

[hollow gust]

[meager gyro]

Yeah

[candid meteor]

ok so yea, you can replace the hedgehog with another aux that can. anything would be better tbh

[meager gyro]

And it doesn't look like it's gonna change soon

[elfin hollow]

How is 3+2 torp?

[candid meteor]

its good but inconsistent on auto i think

[elfin hollow]

No auto so no problem.

[candid meteor]

so it should be pretty good for u

[meager gyro]

Have nothing else from that list

[whole crypt]

there are no subs until 14-3 so you can leave the hedgehog aside for a good while

[candid meteor]

syou can use anything thats an aux, hedgehog is just a waste of slot rn

[elfin hollow]

Do research and get more gear.

[sharp socket]

are any of these worth 125’ing and if so in what order

[candid meteor]

do you have any tech boxes?

[meager gyro]

Just filled anything from the list that I could

[elfin hollow]

Enty

[candid meteor]

im guessing ectl?

[exotic wren]

Indep, Helena, maybe enty

[candid meteor]

helena, enty, independence

[stark quiver]

enty and helena are good options, if you could indep, but hold off from 125ing them until you need to

[spring bolt]

helena >>> indep > enty, rest no

[meager gyro]

?

[sharp socket]

alr ill do helena and enty

[viscid swift]

Enterprise first, Helena and Independence maybe later on if you need them

[candid meteor]

which list, is it this one https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/dd \

[whole crypt]

did you get the gun from the event

[meager gyro]

Yes

[meager gyro]

What gun from what event?

[candid meteor]

the mogodor event, the twin 138

[stark quiver]

dis one

[whole crypt]

the gun from the same event you got that ship

which would be that rainbow gun, yes

[meager gyro]

Not sure atm

[whole crypt]

you could start by checking?

[candid meteor]

are you able to check? or are you away

[meager gyro]

I'm not imgame anymore

[silk sphinx]

It was in the event shop.

[whole crypt]

well come back again later then, we can't tell you what to put on Mogador without knowing what you actually have

[candid meteor]

ok so anyways, when you go ingame use that gun if you have it and swithc the hedgehog for ANYTHING else in your aux page

[late flame]

he should ask again when game is in maintenance

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't say just anything, if we're going to fix the gear we might as well fix it in whole

[sharp socket]

can mog live in w14 by any chance

[silk sphinx]

Far as I reckon itheberke has major gear issues so

[whole crypt]

she's fine for 14

[viscid swift]

yes, she can

[candid meteor]

im pretty sure he does, since hes stuck on 11-3

[silk sphinx]

I don’t rly consider w14 to be that difficult these days, especially if you have many other BIS ships

[whole crypt]

he does, which is why I'd rather wait until there's access to his gear list and tell him what to use 1 for 1

[sharp socket]

great so for the slot im missing in the comp you recommended me cheeky, is mog fine there in 3rd slot boss with jda and agir

[meager gyro]

Major is an understatement imo

[stark quiver]

youre correct

[viscid swift]

uhhh, you can try...

[whole crypt]

just come back when you're on the game, can't tell you what to use when every thing we ask you to swap you have no idea or don't have the gear

[candid meteor]

ok so yea you do have the twin 138 butyou're using it on z23 rn

[whole crypt]

let's just come back to this in whole later

[candid meteor]

yea

we should keep this conversation in the thread that has been created already

[whole crypt]

well good luck with that, I don't really have time for him this week

[silk sphinx]

I’m too busy in general

[viscid magnet]

Fleet recommendation

[silk helm]

babe wake up new berke lore dropped

[inland shoal]

I'll be going to bed, someone ping me pls when when you actually active peeps get MLB Michita

[loud rover]

do you think getting a d30 plymouth is more important than swapping to pr7 on release? she's d14 atm

[silk sphinx]

We don’t know anything about pr7 yet, but Plymouth is very good

[viscid swift]

that's still nearly a week off at this point

[viscid swift]

it would depend on how the PR7 line up turns out
can't really say for certain until at least the datamine

[candid meteor]

whos michita? wichita Meta?

[silk sphinx]

I prefer wichim

[inland shoal]

I completely lost track, so I don't think I'll regain my bearings in that regard

[viscid swift]

here's where I'm up to right now

[candid meteor]

how many sync points are you able to get a day?

[inland shoal]

975

[stark quiver]

with 3 supports or something?

[whole crypt]

earliest MLB is Wednesday if you didn't miss more than 11 points

should be similar timeline for maxing her skill if you didn't miss too much

[forest palm]

Should be like 2, or 3 days before MLB if you put in the maximum effort

[whole crypt]

you can miss up to 11 points, up to that point you'll finish on Wednesday (day 28)

so if you've been doing 73pt assists then chances are you'll be a day late

on that note 73pt assists doesn't delay your 70k, at all

[forest palm]

I was talking about Skills

[late flame]

i just threw books

[whole crypt]

eh yeh, skills if you do 30k everyday from mintime acquisition you'll finish like 2 days ahead of MLB

[little tree]

HOW do u get 975 i get like 300

[whole crypt]

975 is total of 2 self and 3 assists

[little tree]

burh i get 163 from self each and 63 from assiust each

[whole crypt]

at tier 15

[little tree]

Im guessing you guys can kill witchta

[whole crypt]

doesn't matter

[candid meteor]

you get infinite attempts to kill it right>

[forest palm]

is Meta Skill total XP the same as regular ships

[soft raft]

you should be killing her anyways regardless of how many times it takes

[whole crypt]

your own fights are always max as long as you kill, regardless of number of attempts or having assists kill for you

[late flame]

yup infinite attempt
(leme go find that wiki linklol)

[forest palm]

feel like it isn't

[little tree]

I ment on your assit my Wtictha is level 3

The assist are level 15 i only get 63 each

[whole crypt]

even if you die entering the fight on T15 you get like 63

killing only gives you 75

[candid meteor]

yea i get 71 and i only do like 500k damage

[whole crypt]

well doing at least 70% gives you 75

so between dying on entry and killing the difference is 36 points a day

[soft raft]

(which iirc is like 950k damage)

[late flame]

anyway i fail math
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/META_Showdown#META_Showdown

[whole crypt]

945000 apparently

[soft raft]

57+ runs 💀

[whole crypt]

oh I got there before doing tests

once you're at that point testing is free

[late flame]

i did that once when i was just starting out lol
60 runs or something (before i knew support was a thing)

[whole crypt]

when support barrage kicks in you won't even make it past 20 attempts

[little tree]

is witchita meta a good ship ?

[whole crypt]

glass cannon

I'll just say she's not the worst showdown META we've gotten

[candid meteor]

what would you say was the best>

[soft raft]

you most likely wont be using her much besides getting her CA FP+1 fleet tech bonus

[balmy matrix]

Do Sandy needed in w12?

[late flame]

nope she'd be overkill
(disclaimer : i run full mainfleet cvs so maybe it seems that way for me)

[whole crypt]

she's not needed anywhere but she's nice to have from 12 onwards

the threshold for 12 is to just not have absolute rubbish AA

[late flame]

+sandy isnt exactly cheap to retrofit +augment

[balmy matrix]

Is 200 AA enough?

[whole crypt]

it's not about AA stat

[little tree]

Its about if the planes die

[late flame]

as long as your fleet has air parity minimum , or better yet air superiority

[agile sky]

why is 12-1 the exp stage and 12-4 the coin stage? Why wouldnt 12-4 just be the exp and coin stage?

[forest palm]

12-1 is easier, but yes, you can do just that

[soft raft]

that is in terms of oil efficency
12-1 is better if you care about the XP/oil ratio (but mainly it's easier)
12-4 is better if you care about the Gold/oil ratio

[whole crypt]

I do 12-1 because better chip/oil and I don't need the coins

[late flame]

12-1 is also better for levelling sub given that its a smaller map

[forest palm]

I'm just waiting for PR7 to drop...sitting at 24k oil

[little tree]

After PR5 should i back track to do PR4

[soft raft]

You should've done PR4 first
unless you're already done and just farming extra

[whole crypt]

if you intend to start PR7 on schedule no

[little tree]

I am aware but i did this 2 months before i joined the discord

[whole crypt]

what do you have left for PR4 or have you done any of it at all

[little tree]

none of Pr4

[late flame]

so no anchorage , avp and haku

[little tree]

nope

[soft raft]

Ok then yeah do PR4

[little tree]

I dont even have Tech to get them atm anyways

I have ~200 BP for Brest

[whole crypt]

well if you're willing to suck it up you can probably do PR4 now and get a Tenrai + finish all ships before series goes into retirement

[forest palm]

we don't even know if PR7 will be worth investing over current high valued PR Ships

[soft raft]

(Provided that PR7 indeed fully powercreeps PR4)
But even then, they would still have higher tech pt requirements than PR4

[whole crypt]

if you don't have enough tech then just work on something you have enough tech for

[little tree]

none of the ships

[soft raft]

Get on the tech point grind then

[agile sky]

at max efficiency, aka 3/3 ships, how much oil would it take on 12-1 to clear both exp parts of a research ship?

[late flame]

not enough tech can be overcome by throwing some exp books and.or levelling some ships to 70

[whole crypt]

I don't mean from PR4, I mean from across the board

[viscid swift]

okay let me rephrase the question, what's your research focus been set to

[whole crypt]

just develop a ship you can actually unlock even if it means taking up a PR1

and yeh focus is another business

[little tree]

the ship focuis is Brest atm

[soft raft]

286 * However many runs you need to do = a absolute fuck ton

[whole crypt]

that's not focus that's catchup

[viscid swift]

that's catchup, I mean what season

[soft raft]

That's Catchup
He's asking about what season your focus is set to

[little tree]

OH im not sure that is set let me see

[late flame]

check research screen

[little tree]

no focus

[late flame]

oof

[soft raft]

Damn

[viscid swift]

ok now that's bad

set it to 4 asap

[agile sky]

how'd u get 268 per run?

[little tree]

I was Wrong dr 2

[soft raft]

6 mob fights before boss shows up at 39 oil each
then the boss fight is 52 oil

This is assuming no submarines which would be a additional 17 per fight they participate in

[late flame]

doesnt matter. change it to pr4
P.s. do not confuse it for catchup

[little tree]

I now know they are seprate its on 4

[whole crypt]

12-1 is 296 a run

[agile sky]

ur mob and boss are both with 6 ships or 4?

[whole crypt]

you're looking at roughly 75~80 runs for a ship

[soft raft]

There is no excuse to do anything less than 6 due to oil cap

[whole crypt]

more if DR

[late flame]

+using less ships = gimping your exp gained

[soft raft]

the old PR Grind strat of 1:3/3:1 has been outdated ever since Oil cap became a thing

[agile sky]

ah.

[whole crypt]

so let's just say about 24k per ship

[grizzled sundial]

Wait wat ? So i need to use full team if i want to grind XP for PR ship development ?

[agile sky]

oof...in that case, if used efficiently, i got about 1 more ship in me cuz im at 25k in mail

[whole crypt]

the old grind strat was 1:3 or 1:1 depending on vanguard or mainfleet

well you also get 4k from pack each week, as well as commissions

[soft raft]

Imo a easier way to equate research grind is that 1 run of 12-4 is roughly the equivalent of like 4% XP for PR CDC1 and 2% XP for DR CDC1

Then for CDC2 you roughly half that to 2% and 1% respectively

[whole crypt]

not forgetting this will be replacing your regular XP grinds so it's not like you're spending extra oil on other stuff

[agile sky]

oh does 1 fleet 2 fleet matter in any way?

[whole crypt]

12-1 is also around 4%

it'll go up and down depending on MVP, morale, and if main fleet your flag bonus

[soft raft]

I still do 2 fleets
Mob fleet is the one with the CDC grind ships
Then the boss fleet remains unchanged so I can nuke the boss as fast as possible, there's little point of having your CDC fleet fight the boss for that bit of extra XP

[late flame]

yes the less ships you use also means less exp gain

[whole crypt]

I think I was down around 40k in storage last year by the time I finished PR6

but that's pushing mintime anyway

you don't have to do mintime

[soft raft]

yeah
and you gotta wait like 3 days or so before CDC 2 unlocks after you start the grind

[whole crypt]

that one in particular if you spend the first day finishing CDC1 you end up needing to find stuff to spend oil on for day 2 and 3 before CDC2 comes

remind me so we have NP carrier, pasta CA, IJN BB, USS DD and baguette CL?

[soft raft]

Essentially yes
the DD is more like a DDV

[whole crypt]

I don't care what the ship does, I'm just checking for what ships to use for grind lol

[viscid swift]

They haven't actually said what hull type Halford is yet have they

[forest palm]

she's a Fletcher, so saying DD is fair

[soft raft]

Nah they did
#game-news message

[whole crypt]

DD

[viscid swift]

Yeah but she's also a Hybrid in WoWs

Bearcat Seaplanes with Tiny Tim rockets

[whole crypt]

just wait for datamine

even if they did give her a plane slot it doesn't mean they need to add a classification

[forest palm]

they didn't for FBK, so~

[whole crypt]

that was more of a gimmick than a hull thing

who knows

[forest palm]

I mean being a hybrid is a gimmick, yes

[agile sky]

question. In terms of farming, is there any need to 3* a stage?

[whole crypt]

gems

[little tree]

matts

[agile sky]

I could get the stage threat lvl to safe first before 3*-ing it right?

[whole crypt]

most of your free gems are locked behind 3-starring campaign
and yes you can get it to safe before attempting 3star

[dawn crest]

Finally got my first mk7, if I use it in a sync BB fleet flagship, with the other two using a mk6, white shell and black shell, and Duke of York using the HPFCR and a black shell, still sync?

[slow spoke]

are there any resources for recommended builds on lesser used ships

[viscid swift]

Builds are based on content not ships

The same builds you use on your UR BBs are pretty much the same builds you'd use on Nevada and Oklahoma

[slow spoke]

so there is no such thing as a general BiS in this game?

[candid meteor]

no

[viscid swift]

No

[slow spoke]

and how would you go about picking which gear to use on a ship? whichever one has the bigger numbers?

[elfin hollow]

For 15-3 and 15-4, which boss should a mob fleet engage?

[elfin hollow]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/dd

[stark quiver]

Either 1 or 3 or just 2

[viscid swift]

No, gear is all situationally dependent and there's soft factors to consider in addition to the hard factors

Read Sam's gear guide in #bot-spam /equip

[slow spoke]

alright

[viscid swift]

Depends on your fleet

[stark quiver]

Same goes for boss

[whole crypt]

depends on what BB you're using

[eternal moth]

Bigger numbers in one place don't always tell the story either. There are coefficients, ammo type, and a number of other factors that affect it as well.

[dawn crest]

FdG, Howe, Duke of York

mk7 on FdG

[whole crypt]

HPFCR dork might work try throwing the fleet into CM to see how well the timing works out

[eternal moth]

Mk7 is good if you're fighting light armor, but against med or heavy AP is better

[whole crypt]

but longer fights may drift Dork too far back

[dawn crest]

i using Dork, while i don't get vanguard

[agile sky]

is there an augment priority list?

[viscid swift]

Not particularly

There's a few unique augments that are high priority if you're using the ships

Otherwise it's just purples which are relatively minor

[dawn crest]

MK7 for light, Champ for heavy, and Soyuz gun for med, right?

[loud rover]

which ships you consider having high prio augs?

[eternal moth]

Personally I just use Champ for medium and heavy for the most part. The damage difference is small enough that it doesn't really matter

[viscid swift]

Both Soyuz and Champaign gun for medium and heavy

The difference isn't big and you can only get one soyuz gun

[viscid swift]

Saratoga and Hood are the 2 main ones usually

[dawn crest]

i got it

[loud rover]

fair

[eternal moth]

Sandy as well, if you're using her.

[loud rover]

isnt she still broken?

[viscid swift]

San Diego whenever people get to retrofitting her and on occasion Shangri-La, Taiho, and Kawakaze

[eternal moth]

Define broken

[soft raft]

Prob her bugged aug

[loud rover]

thought there was a vid posted earlier today of her "when she fires main guns" star barrage not working properly

[eternal moth]

Oh, I hadn't heard that

[sweet delta]

she loses some damage but is still high dps

[dawn crest]

i have 2 champs and a soyuz gun, so i can stop farming another champ?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[frank pulsar]

how many +13 mk7 should i have? 3? i currently already have one +13 mk7 and one +11 mk6

[whole crypt]

not that important but you want then up to 3 I guess

[sweet delta]

i dont have 3

[frank pulsar]

2 then?

[sweet delta]

but im not a boomer

[frank pulsar]

sometimes i forget youre not a boomer even though your acc is mega dalao

[whole crypt]

I made 3rd Mk7 but only 2 +13

[sweet delta]

actually how is it possible for 12-2 to be blocked

[whole crypt]

so 7 fights is when boss node is blocked?

[sweet delta]

🏃‍♂️ theres a bug

[whole crypt]

well I'm probably sticking with 12-1 because I like 1-fleeting

fleet 2 is usually just all crossfleet including vanguards

since I'm mostly only leveling vanguards now anyway

[zinc turret]

How about avg coin obtained

[forest palm]

the micro data

[sweet delta]

The wiki table with fewer than 100 runs per stage is the best we have

[vale spindle]

12-2 worst for leveling confirmed

[sweet delta]

That extra mob goes to the boss fleet imagine having to set up a leveling boss fleet

[whole crypt]

stops being a problem if you 1 fleet it

[uncut oar]

Tbf setting up a second levelling fleet is actually not a bad shout if you play in bursts and run into morale issue, just flip the fleets

[whole crypt]

I just keep going as long as green

[cold nacelle]

just started. as a starter, how much time should i put in everyday?

[soft raft]

There's no real answer to that outside of "Do your dailies" which is pretty quick

[viscid swift]

you might also wanna give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[cold nacelle]

i gave it a read

my smol brain is smoking

[whole crypt]

there's no how much time you "should" play, you can wrap up in half an hour or you can grind for 3, depends on what you want out of the game

[remote yarrow]

Depends on you really, dailies take about 20 minutes then it's on how much you are gonna afk farm/grind or push campaign/event stages, doing Opsi,etc

[eager mulch]

20 minutes for dailies, 20 hours afk

[remote yarrow]

You got enough oil for 20 hours of farming?

[eager mulch]

I got enough oil to sit in main menu for 20 hours

[agile sky]

does 1 run for 1% research ship on 12-1 sounds about right?

[whole crypt]

a little on the low side but 10k and 19k both show as 1%

[zinc turret]

Depend on which research too

[sharp socket]

the more time u spend doing stuff, learning the game, asking questions and doing more stuff more efficiently means you progress faster to whatever goal you have

[clever lance]

Is chapayev worth maxing out?

[remote yarrow]

Define maxing out, 125? probably not, 120 sure

[cold nacelle]

well there are ships i want. ill just play the game slow and steady

[clever lance]

Poor choice of words. Leveling up

[plain saffron]

yes ish

[soft raft]

Depends on who you have

[boreal oriole]

What does this do?

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Data_Loggers

[remote yarrow]

That's very broad ngl, some ships are event limited or map drops from higher stages but like I said, dailies take about 20 minutes and the rest it's up to you

Though if you are gonna be collecting you may need to progress the campaign for gems and do mementos for dock space if you plan to stay F2P
In any case any question about the game is welcome in here

[cold nacelle]

ill probably stay f2p

[stark quiver]

f2p best ngl, games really generous about the resources

[eternal moth]

Personally I'm a collector, so I need lots of gems for dock space.

[remote yarrow]

If you plan on staying that way for a long time;
Dont buy these with your gems: skins, rings,packs,oil,cubes,coins,etc
Probably ask in here before since Gem income is really low for F2P and a skin is like 1/4 of your total guaranteed income

[eternal moth]

I'll typically buy a lucky bag every once in a while

[stark quiver]

i was really bad with gems as a beginner so i had to buy more to get dock space

[cold nacelle]

im sticking with laffey forever

[remote yarrow]

What does that have to do with the gem tip tho?

[cold nacelle]

what are gems for?

[late flame]

instructions unclear all gems spent on laffey skins

[remote yarrow]

What we recommend you to spend them on as a F2P is mostly dock space and dorm slot 3 + 2nd floor

[warm niche]

TO BUY SKINS

[remote yarrow]

Please don't

[soft raft]

Go meme somewhere else

Especially when we've got a clueless newbie here

[cold nacelle]

okay noted

[sharp socket]

gems are for dockspace and dorm

[late flame]

(not mine but this be a good read)

NOT RECOMMENDED refers to everything on next page
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13KVOhAOz9wwZK0gQON0PLJrDkPEp6vg66Fh8U2LoYG4/edit

[sharp socket]

if casual, or whale, then skins, dockspace and dorm

[remote yarrow]

Whatever comes out of your wallet is your own choice, but for F2P is really only those two if you don't wanna screw up or slow down your progress

[stark quiver]

If you just want to enjoy the game and have someone visually pleasing, then skins, if you want to improve gameplay and get better than dock space etc

[cold nacelle]

ill just listen to the advice here and try to play efficiently and if one day i decide to get skins ill just buy with money then

i only have 450 gems

ill just pretend it doesnt exist

[warm niche]

how do i upgrade my dock space

[stark quiver]

shop

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dockyard#Dockyard_expansion

[stark quiver]

shop > items > dock space

[blissful hamlet]

[sharp socket]

guild shop also

[cold nacelle]

do i get that now?

i am level 18. on the second chapter

[sharp socket]

buy dockspace when you need to

[stark quiver]

you dont need dock space for now, push as high as u can, using fleet recommended in the beginner guide

[stark quiver]

idk how to answer that, i have a screwed up progression

[remote yarrow]

Do it when needed, I recommend you have like 30~40 free dock space most of the time for farming

[cold nacelle]

thats what im doing. i was confised a little by the guild shop stuff

[stark quiver]

oh yea dont worry about that for now

[remote yarrow]

I think they are talking about getting the guild shop ships

[sharp socket]

i have existed with 170 dockspace until w12 and now have 250 with 130 free slots most of the time

[cold nacelle]

the weapons on the ships im also confused by

[sharp socket]

which part are you confused with

[slow fox]

eHP chart updated (now modern)

[warm niche]

is there a point to play war archives?

[stark quiver]

farming tech for Iron blood, and collection

[jaunty vault]

story

[sharp socket]

tech ships in war archive

[stark quiver]

oh yea also jda if u dont have her

[sharp socket]

namely divergent chessboard for iron blood ships

[warm niche]

what's iron blood?

[stark quiver]

iron blood tech mb

[cold nacelle]

all of it. i have gray weapons

[sharp socket]

have u read the newbie tips yet

[remote yarrow]

For the guild shop ships
Shop > Supply > Guild
You are gonna see this tab, from Elite Ship one get Unicorn and from the Rare Ship one get Portland
Then you refresh the shop on the top right and now you get Helena from the Elite one and Pennsylvania from the Rare one

[lethal bolt]

wanna ask,about indipendence,is she usuable pre-retrofit or is her retrofit required?

[late flame]

retrofit is recommended

[cold nacelle]

i tried but i have a smol brain it seems

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't bother with her pre retro

[sharp socket]

read it again and carefully

[stark quiver]

dont read all at once, just one section at a time

[late flame]

bookmark those links and read at your own pace and time

[cold nacelle]

i got them. what is the gear stuff

[warm niche]

im like still lost. I have no ideo what iron blood tech does. I thought i would get the characters if i beat it lmao

[viscid swift]

You mean the plates? That's what's used for upgrading gear

[cold nacelle]

i already had portland and i accidentally got her from the guild shop. is that bad?

[remote yarrow]

No, you can use her copy to limit break her, which you'll wanna do

[viscid swift]

Iron blood tech is mainly used to unlock certain PR ships

[stark quiver]

basically, each faction has their own ships, and in the shipyard you need a certain amount of tech points to research & unlock ships

[uncut oar]

Or, more specifically, unlock the quest that allows you to unlock the PR/DR ship

[cold nacelle]

okay i just did that

[warm niche]

ahh i see this is how i would get characters like azuma or new jersey?

[remote yarrow]

That may take some time to explain and understand, for now just use whatever you get from T3 tech boxes
For now what you should do is:
Compose every T1 and T2 boxes up to T3 and then open them
You do that over at Depot > Item > Tap the Box > Compose

[uncut oar]

Azuma yes NJ no

[viscid swift]

Not NJ

[stark quiver]

azuma yes new jeresy no,

[lethal bolt]

but i can use her just to do some lower chapters of hard mode? i dont have much of good cvs yet to fulfill the some stage requirement with multiple cv

[warm niche]

I need azuma lol I got an l2d for her

which war archive do i do to get azuma?

[viscid swift]

If you really need the extra slot filled sure I guess
Just remember she's a CVL

[stark quiver]

shes a research ship, in the shipyard pr2

[viscid swift]

Where are you in the main campaign exactly?

[warm niche]

ye I think i got like 109 out of 900. Where do i get more of that?

[whole crypt]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[remote yarrow]

Please tell you didn't get a skin as a F2P

[warm niche]

nah Im in too deep

[cold nacelle]

so the boxes only? what about the folder looking things

[warm niche]

I upgraded all the stuff i need like my dock, dorm, etc but i had left over and bought some skins

[remote yarrow]

Oh those are used to enhance your gear

[cold nacelle]

it doesnt give me an option to compose. only to use

[viscid swift]

Those are upgrade plates, used to enhance your gear

[remote yarrow]

You need 5 to compose into a higher one

[stark quiver]

normally, youd want to spend all gems on dock, but your gems your choice, if u like skin thats all it matters

[remote yarrow]

For a T3 one you need 25 T1

25:5:1

[cold nacelle]

do i need to earn more i buy them in shop?

[remote yarrow]

No, you get them as map drops by just playing

[whole crypt]

they come from daily raids and drop from maps as you grind

[warm niche]

Yeah, my main goal rn is to get azuma

[remote yarrow]

Only ones you should buy are the T4 ones from Event shops, though currently this Event doesn't have a shop

[warm niche]

Just to clarify Im not F2P i spent 30 dollars on this game alr

[viscid swift]

Where are you in the main campaign right now?

[cold nacelle]

okay. ill just play the story then and come back here if i have questions or if i make a decision. thanks!!!!!!

[warm niche]

chapter 4-4 cant beat the boss. so hard

[whole crypt]

you shouldn't really buy T4 boxes from events unless you're really green and need gear to help you grind the event

[remote yarrow]

Well they are new

[whole crypt]

yeh but they won't be that new by the time next event comes

[viscid swift]

Forget about farming tech for any PR ship then
Push the main campaign to w12 first
Trying to farm tech at this stage will just make things longer and more difficult

[warm niche]

Im trying but I die to the boss everytime

[remote yarrow]

Hmmm idk about that, there's some new players that've been playing for a couple months and still struggle with getting gold gear

[viscid swift]

What ships are you using, are you limit breaking them, are you using the best gear you have etc

[whole crypt]

4-4 is not hard, if you have trouble with it you have some ship, gear or level issues

[remote yarrow]

Did you get your fleet set properly like the one in the guide?

[warm niche]

yeah I can seen you my dock rn

[stark quiver]

make thread

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[whole crypt]

but you don't need gold gear

[viscid swift]

Give that a read if you haven't already

[warm niche]

I read it already\

[uncut oar]

You read it already but did you retain any of it

[stark quiver]

so id assume youre using the reccomended beginner fleet?

[warm niche]

There were some parts I didnt understand bc Im still pretty new to the game

[cold nacelle]

i dont have enterprise. laffey is in the front on the right but everything else is the same

[warm niche]

Yeah the fleet that that the guide recommended

[viscid swift]

What parts didn't you understand

[whole crypt]

well start a thread, post your dock and depot and let's see if we can get you fixed up

because if you've been following the newbie stuff 4-4 shouldn't be particularly difficult

[remote yarrow]

Oh enterprise is a filler, just put in whatever like Ranger, she's decent early on
And the position matters too so probably move Laffey to the middle

[lethal bolt]

Oh guess I'll hold off clearing hard stages that requires 2 or more CV ships then, another question, is there a ship in my arsenal i can build to help fulfill the torp requirement? Heres the fleet I'm using and it's 1149/1200

[cold nacelle]

alright

[whole crypt]

Kazagumo is good

I don't know why you locked both copies, you can use one to LB the other

[viscid swift]

You know all you need for a fleet to qualify is to have one main fleet and one vanguard hull type requirement met right?
Also throw some torp stat boosting auxes on some ships to meet the requirements

[remote yarrow]

Do skills matter for W15 support fleet?

[whole crypt]

no

[remote yarrow]

Aight I guess I'll leave Indom 1-1-1 then

It just feels weird not having anyone relevant to upgrade

[earnest flare]

New pr7 DR is northern parliament and sardegna right

[remote yarrow]

Yep

[viscid swift]

Yes

[earnest flare]

sick thanks

[warm niche]

Here’s my fleet

[remote yarrow]

I suggest you download a screenshot app or something

I use ShareX

[warm niche]

i can hop on my phone rq

[remote yarrow]

Nah it's fine

[viscid swift]

Vanguard positioning is a bit questionable and your main fleet ships are lacking limit breaks

[remote yarrow]

Just for the future for clarity purposes

[viscid swift]

Scratch that almost everything is lacking limit breaks

[whole crypt]

easier to just use discord on PC and put screenshots directly

[stark quiver]

u can windows + prinscreen then just control v here

[viscid swift]

Are you deliberately waiting till they're about to be level capped to limit break your ships if you are don't

[cold nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/shikimori-anime-anime-girl-shikimoris-not-just-a-cutie-kawaii-dake-ja-nai-shikimorisan-gif-26182588

[warm niche]

I dont have enough to limit break

[cold nacelle]

that broke my brain

[lethal bolt]

i locked more than one to use as my mlb material, and before you say theres a check box to prevent over retiring,i dont trust myself to properly do config it

[plain saffron]

something2 no unrelated gif in gph

[viscid swift]

You have no bullins or dupes to use for limit breaking?

[whole crypt]

have you collected weekly mission rewards, otherwise you can buy dupes from guild shop, or bulins from medal/merit shop

[warm niche]

nope

[whole crypt]

please don't post unrelated gifs here

[lethal bolt]

what are the torp boosting aux?

[remote yarrow]

Oh for future reference, don't post unrelated gifs or stickers, so mods or admins don't you

[viscid swift]

Look into changing that then and quickly

[viscid swift]

That also wasn't meant for you....

[cold nacelle]

my bad!

[charred wagon]

Haven't done pr 5 or 6. Which one is better to do first?

[whole crypt]

potentially 7, just pick something to do for these 4-5 days while waiting

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Type_93_Pure_Oxygen_Torpedo#Type_2-0

You can get these from IJN tech boxes

[viscid swift]

Have you finished PR4 yet?

[charred wagon]

The weapons is 6 are better than 5 aren't they?

[whole crypt]

they're not better, they're different

[plain saffron]

tbh ider any gear from 6

[whole crypt]

hindenburg gun

[charred wagon]

Eh, I'm basically fate sin farming 4 at this point

[viscid swift]

Have you got 2 tenrais

[remote yarrow]

Hinden gun and that's about it

[warm niche]

what does this mean?

[viscid swift]

Exactly what I said....

Get some bullins and dupes to limit break your ships asap

[remote yarrow]

What he means is limit break your ships whenever you can

[lethal bolt]

ok thx

[whole crypt]

have you claimed your weeklies? can you buy any bulins/dupes?

[warm niche]

I just fully limit break unicorn

[whole crypt]

portland would really like that LB HP to tank...

[warm niche]

I just have to level her up more to get her fully LB

[charred wagon]

I'm almost fs5 on everyone in 4 and I have one tenrei and I'm it even close to a second, I'm 35 away

[whole crypt]

Helena will definitely want to be LB'd to do more damage

[viscid swift]

Have you bought the tenrai prints from the prototype shop yet

[remote yarrow]

wrong @ , shit

[remote yarrow]

You can probably buy a copy of her from Guild shop so you don't use Bulins that could be used in Helena instead

[whole crypt]

those levels should have no issue with 4-4, besides LB you might want to share what gear they're using, might be some problems there too

[charred wagon]

I haven't bought any, I don't really have proto cores, not really sure how to get those

I have 500 cores

[warm niche]

I can stream my game to you in a vc. that would be easier for me tbh

[whole crypt]

eh, are you using discord on a phone and playing on PC

[warm niche]

on PC

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#protocore

Give that a read then

[whole crypt]

just screenshot on PC and paste it

[remote yarrow]

Have you Analyzed your combat data packs?

[viscid swift]

And if everyone in pr4 is at least dev 30 switch to pr5 asap

[uncut oar]

I think a lot of people here are helping while at work etc. and not really able to do VC

[whole crypt]

I'm definitely busy being a producer

[charred wagon]

No, I have thousands of whatever those are lol

[warm niche]

you want to see all my gear right?

[remote yarrow]

Analyze all of those for protocore

Never use them to rush Combat Data Collection missions

[whole crypt]

easiest way is to go to your depot, toggle on equipped gear then screenshot

then you don't have to screenshot every ship

[remote yarrow]

Ha he @'d the wrong person

[whole crypt]

lazy to fix, they can read

[fathom sable]

Is there a map to grind for SS torpedos?

[whole crypt]

best source is weekly sub raid

[remote yarrow]

This event I guess but it's a miserable amount just stick to Weekly sub raid

[whole crypt]

the thing is ultimately you want to make bidders and you can't get MkVIIIs anywhere else

[whole crypt]

your vanguards seriously lack durability gear

[remote yarrow]

Yeah... not much to work with honestly

[whole crypt]

do you have any gear boxes to open?

[remote yarrow]

Do this if you haven't yet #gameplay-help message

[fathom sable]

I just need 2 more and looks like the one on the event is magnetic which is better than normal?

[whole crypt]

this needs to go on Portland and/or Helena, Unicorn has no use of it

[remote yarrow]

She be dodging BB shells

[warm niche]

I was on my phone

[remote yarrow]

And maybe give Sam's guide a read too https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[warm niche]

i have like common and rare. Ive been composing them to T3

[whole crypt]

so no more boxes now?

[warm niche]

just T1 and T2 rn

[whole crypt]

not enough to craft up I suppose

[viscid swift]

You know

If you really want to you can buy the 5 dollar lvl 70 commander boost

It'll remove a lot of the early game commander level gates

And help you with the gear and bullin situation a bit

Well, gear a lot in this case

[sweet epoch]

for w15 what torp bombers would work I dont have any more wyverns/spearfish/breguet

[whole crypt]

how about just waiting until you have more of them

[viscid swift]

If you don't have enough to fill your 2 surface fleets I'd seriously question if you're ready for W15

[sweet epoch]

do the support fleets need wyverns

[viscid swift]

No

[warm niche]

to get more T3?

[whole crypt]

no that was for SSAP

[sweet epoch]

suddenly i have wyverns

[remote yarrow]

Since you already spent some money why not do what Cheeky said?

[viscid swift]

You might wanna read /w15 in #bot-spam

[remote yarrow]

Lv 70 commander boost is pretty decent for ppl who can afford it

[whole crypt]

this is one of those cases I'd actually say go back and grind some toolkits

foxmine can get you toolkit and maybe a corsair, will be slightly better than that purple hellcat
otherwise 4-1 for saratoga, 4-3 for purple eugen gun
all maps will drop boxes so you can farm some for now

or if like they said you don't mind dropping another $5 then sure go for the lv70 pack

[warm flax]

Isn't spearfish bad for w15

[whole crypt]

it isn't

[warm flax]

Why

[whole crypt]

less overkill on torps and rockets help kill side trash
Wyvern intercept only accounts for very little of your total AA in that chapter if you're properly setup

[sweet delta]

i've never seen spearfish rockets help start the next wave

[agile sky]

is it worth getting an shan or chang chun's retrofit mat in the proto shop? Like any reason i should wait? Or should i just keep saving for UR bulins?

[whole crypt]

if you're still waiting for bulins to LB URs I'd say hold

[fresh tangle]

Is next UR event Vanny or new?

Poor Mogador sitting in my dock. Right thank you 😂

[soft raft]

Next Rerun in general is Vanguard
Next new UR is in Sept

Vanguard might rerun before or after the Sept UR, who knows

[fresh tangle]

Either way I’m only on 4 bulins now so will just hold and see what the situation is. I think generally main fleet is better than vanguard in terms of priority as I’ve only really got Alsace, Hood and Nelson

FdG should be sorted this week depending on my luck with retrofit prints

[hallow iron]

Me 2 weeks of no gold retro drop 💀

[fresh tangle]

I feel that pain. At the mercy of RNG. I may get to a point where I feel like buying them with medals

[hallow iron]

I already buy 4

[remote yarrow]

Buying retrofit BPs with medals is a scam

[finite crag]

you get so many medals anyways so it doesnt really matter

[hallow iron]

I have 0 patience 💀

[remote yarrow]

I doubt you do early on like these guys

[fresh tangle]

I figure so long as you can get your gold bulins every month you gotta do what you gotta do 😂

I’m definitely noticing my medal income increase now I’m comfortably in w12

[hallow iron]

That smootie guy get 3 gold retrofit every week, can't compare to that luck sacc

[remote yarrow]

It was just an estimate considering how many I got since it's rng, I wasn't counting really

[stark quiver]

Shops exist?

[agile sky]

about how much avg gold per run is the difference between running 12-1 and 12-4?

[sweet delta]

/wiki chapter 12x

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_12

[agile sky]

got it. thnx

Also, can someone explain to me, why when i look at auto-repeat cost, i see 296 for 2 fleet and sub, but when i take out the sub, it stays the same? Shouldnt it drop by like 17 or something?

[sweet delta]

because game can't estimate whether your subs are in range of enemies

so it just doesn't count sub oil in that screen

[remote yarrow]

Also subs only consume oil when used in battle not when they shoot in the map itself

[whole crypt]

that cost isn't fixed anyway, it's just the sum of mob cost until boss spawn + boss cost
if you get blocked and do one more mob node you'll spend one more mob fleet cost as well

if for some reason you lose a ship along the way her cost also stops counting

[crisp estuary]

[icy mountain]

is it worth it building nagato for shinano haku fleet in opsi?

[sweet delta]

worth building implacable or august for shinano haku fleet

[hollow gust]

Nagato is some mega bait

[agile sky]

used in battle meaning pressing the sub button yes?

[sweet delta]

yes this button

[signal leaf]

Little late on this question but is the event gear good? and why or why not?

[sweet delta]

it's the greatest torp of all time for auto

[signal leaf]

why

[sweet delta]

gold quad kms magnetics and rainbow quint magnetics were the best for most situations already. And the event torp is a significant upgrade to gold quad mag

[remote yarrow]

Atleast a 18% damage increase from Quad Mags iirc

[sweet delta]

expect 15 to 30% better

[remote yarrow]

Wasn't it you who said 18 to 30% before?

[signal leaf]

and I only can get 1?

[remote yarrow]

Everyone can only get one, not only you

[signal leaf]

yes that was what i was asking ?

[sweet delta]

16 to 30%. Take it or leave it.

[jaunty vault]

how better vs quint mags

[jaunty vault]

that's how event gears work 😔

[plain saffron]

uhm actually not really

[remote yarrow]

~~Surely they'll add it to gearlab some day ~~

[plain saffron]

some event gears is farmable, this one nope

[signal leaf]

this so not alpha 😔

[subtle grove]

Which one?

[remote yarrow]

For what?

[jaunty vault]

left for manual play

[plain saffron]

left for manual, right eh

[jaunty vault]

mag torps for auto play
right is not mag

[plain saffron]

right one is better version of quint non mag, it's not bad but not worth when you can craft quad mag(one of the best for auto) instead

and quint non mag is good enough if you can't craft quad mag

[subtle grove]

Okay thanks 🙇🏼‍♂️

[kind needle]

What’s the diff between tigercat and flapjack again?

Excluding the mat costs ofc

[forest palm]

Flapjack has better AA which will matter more

[jaunty vault]

that and timing which matters less

[steady beacon]

Flapjack is slightly slower in cooldown (11.0 vs. 10.81, a detail which can be exploited for timing purposes)
In terms of flight speed, Flapjack has an incredibly slow flight speed, which allows it to have more effective interception capability
It also has one of the fastest intercept cooldowns in the game, which further lends to its effectiveness as an interceptor

[bright tusk]

Any good vanguards for yt2, kearsarge, and indepence fleet?

[forest palm]

Sirius, Kazagumo, Aurora come to mind

[steady beacon]

Why would you double up ARA though

[late flame]

tank where

[kind needle]

This fine or no?

[forest palm]

you'd take Guam + Aurora + Sirius if you're fighting CLs, and DDs

[crimson glacier]

i guess thats alright for campaign bosses

[steady beacon]

Fine in principle, but what you are using it for will greatly determine its suitability

[kind needle]

I’m using it for opsi, med to heavy ig.

[late flame]

+who is implac paired with

[forest palm]

then it depends on the other 2 CV you're using

[kind needle]

Yt2 and Enterprise

[crimson glacier]

i mean that doestn really matter itself

[steady beacon]

Need to sync, so that will also depend on what planes they are carrying

[crimson glacier]

what matters is that they all need really similar reload time

[kind needle]

But the issue, enterprise gets faster than implac, Enty and york uses Hellcat, Tenrai, and Ryusei

[plain saffron]

as long as enty is after york, she will be always right after york

if enty at 95% rld, it will be 100%, not 100+%

[kind needle]

Idk if I should go tigercat or flap since they both use hellcats

[steady beacon]

Adjust the planes to get something like Implac --> York II --> Enty
Or Implac in centre, if you can manage that

[steady beacon]

If it's for OpSi bossing, the key thing is to get your sync right
So choice of planes is largely for timing purposes, with less concern on the other factors in the Tigercat vs Flapjack comparison

[kind needle]

Is it fine for the vanguards for Implac, YT2, and enty are Ancho, kazagumo and sirius?

[steady beacon]

Sure, that's fine

[late flame]

+aviation manjuu or homing beacon in place of gold cata as needed

[kind needle]

Don’t have any beacons, tho. I just bought my 3rd white shell

[steady beacon]

Do you have any Saiuns

[gloomy mesa]

This a skin or is she actually that hot?

[finite crag]

take a guess

[steady beacon]

Nah that's her base skin

[whole crypt]

if Implacable is too slow you can give her a DB

for syncing anything goes

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Implacable/Gallery

[gloomy mesa]

She FINE, HOW I GET HER?

[woven rain]

Limited event only, until now

[worldly pewter]

are u new to the game or something

[woven rain]

And check the link above, her event in there

[whole crypt]

you wait for this to rerun https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Revelations_of_Dust

which will probably end up around a year from now

[woven rain]

Or more

[whole crypt]

I already padded that, original run was Feb 23

[gloomy mesa]

Yes, 😂. Started playing when the Shinano-chan event was running

[woven rain]

Pretty..new

[worldly pewter]

yeah i meant at least the notion of an original run and a rerun should have popped somewhere in ur progression path

[icy mountain]

now that i got my 3rd champy gun

where should i focus my protocores now?

457?

[steady beacon]

I'd be inclined towards Tenrai, but I'm also a carrier nut, so you might want another, less biased opinion

[icy mountain]

hmm, the tenrai in my shop is still at 20/50

will the amount restock next month?

[plain saffron]

no but buy all anyway

[icy mountain]

sad

[plain saffron]

20 add up to your current bp for getting another tenrai

[icy mountain]

lmao i can only buy 14

welp

[plain saffron]

maybe more aa gun or something? idk

is there length limit on commander name?

[steady beacon]

Idek what the protocore prio order is tbh
I never even bought any Champ guns

[whole crypt]

priority depends on what you have, obviously

it's not a straight "get this first"

[plain saffron]

anyone remember what event is this

[steady beacon]

Uhhhhhh
Is that Akashi's skin quest

[whole crypt]

is that not returnee?

[steady beacon]

Checked wiki, don't think it's a skin quest
I have no idea what returnee looks like, so I'll defer to you

[sharp kestrel]

This is good?

[plain saffron]

how tf searching akashi pointsin wiki make you go to enty page

hmm old returnee i guess

[whole crypt]

yeh might be old returnee, I don't remember it very well either though

[whole crypt]

the gun is 🚮

[stark quiver]

Could use a fire control radar, guns not the greatest

[plain saffron]

also augment might be good or bad depending on situation

[whole crypt]

also I don't understand +12 STAAG but AA plates aren't that much of a problem

[warm flax]

What's the proper aa setup

[whole crypt]

depends on your ships and what AA guns you have

[stark quiver]

Are the weapon efficiency just damage multipliers

[sharp socket]

yes

[sharp kestrel]

What gun should I use?

[sharp socket]

champagne gun for heavy/medium, 406mm mk6 for light

change around when needed

[whole crypt]

depends™️

[sharp socket]

premium options mk7 for light

[plain saffron]

if i set secondary password can i remove it later?

[steady beacon]

Wasn't even aware you could set a secondary password

[plain saffron]

well ingame name is just password

i guess second tier

[whole crypt]

it basically prompts for an extra passcode for things that prompts you for confirmation code

[steady beacon]

[whole crypt]

no off button on EN?

[plain saffron]

ouh there is

so if i turn this off it's off forever i assume

[whole crypt]

yes it just prompts you to enter the passcode then it goes back to off

[plain saffron]

and if i enable again it ask for new password?

[whole crypt]

yeh

[plain saffron]

oh wow they do know how to make a bigger popup after all

[whole crypt]

basically just to avoid random people screwing your account if they get your phone

[slow fox]

Why does that calculator only have multiplication

[plain saffron]

meanwhile change name popup so fucking small

[inner delta]

#game-feedback

[remote yarrow]

Can confirm it works after I left my phone on the couch and a friend of mine tried to unlock ships to retire

[blazing shale]

They should make one for the login screen as well

[whole crypt]

time to unfriend them

[quick mason]

New Jersey was permanently added to the standard pool, right?

[blazing shale]

Yeah

[whole crypt]

yes

[remote yarrow]

Yes but don't pull on standard/permanent banner

[plain saffron]

yes, before you get idea to pull for them, don't

you still get the spark points from event(that doesn't have other UR)

[blazing shale]

Idk about UR events but any other event banner counts for her ticket

[whole crypt]

UR events don't
all other events do

UR event builds count only to the event's pity

[fathom sable]

Saiun or Barracuda for Chise?

[quick mason]

Alright thanks (:

[whole crypt]

depends™️

[fathom sable]

Used her on the boss fleet if that's the right call

[whole crypt]

depends™️

[sweet delta]

Likely not the right call

[fathom sable]

Full BB then?

[whole crypt]

boss fleet for what content
not that Chise does well for bossing in any case

[fathom sable]

General

[whole crypt]

my understanding of "general" in AL terms means "shit is too easy just use anything"

[sweet delta]

Assuming that general equals easy, then it doesn't matter

[plain saffron]

does CN have secondary password for cats, or just ship and equip like EN?

[whole crypt]

I suppose it does

[steady beacon]

"General" just indicates someone forgot they're playing a naval game

[whole crypt]

"Admiral"

[sharp kestrel]

Is this gun good for someone?

[whole crypt]

not really

[plain saffron]

on niche battle

[atomic abyss]

Well, it's fine on Musashi if you're willing to gimp your auxes to hit good reload times
Usually no tho

[remote yarrow]

Can't sync with anything iirc

[whole crypt]

even Musashi with loader is pretty sus with 460

[steady beacon]

Like one META fight and uh
Preload cheesing against some EXs probably

[plain saffron]

well you can sync with CV

[sweet delta]

It's only good for syncing with the boss's death at 25 seconds into the battle

[whole crypt]

only if your CV RLD is shit

[plain saffron]

it's intentionally set to low for that one meta fight

[steady beacon]

Oh and if you want to do some cursed things with Seydlitz in PvP
Forgot about that

[plain saffron]

why?

ouh you mean you forgot

[obtuse knoll]

which formation do i use on w15?

[remote yarrow]

#bot-spam /w15

[obtuse knoll]

its either im blind or its not there

should i use circular?

[whole crypt]

if not enough AA sure

[sweet delta]

Circle if your main is dying, double if your vanguard is dying, cry if both are dying

[remote yarrow]

Oh formation I thought you meant fleet mb

[whole crypt]

instructions unclear can't find formation shape called cry

[remote yarrow]

I can roll in a ball and cry if that works

[obtuse knoll]

I'm running w15 without rainbow AA

[steady beacon]

Circular ball formation

[sweet delta]

It's there btw

[obtuse knoll]

completely missed it

[remote yarrow]

So I'm EN and he's blind

[fresh tangle]

Must be real lame when you’re pulling SRs you already have mlb’d right? Free medals or trophy I guess

[remote yarrow]

+10 Medals

[shell willow]

"free"

[remote yarrow]

It is free, like Choukais

[whole crypt]

just another day in AL

[wide marsh]

Which purple tier mag torpedoes better to use to grind maps on auto and why? 5x (t1) 4x (t2) or 3x (t3) ?

[remote yarrow]

None really, just use these ones if you don't have either Gold Quints or Gold Quad mags
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Quadruple_Torpedo_Mount#Type_3-0

[wide marsh]

Why so?

[remote yarrow]

iirc Purple mags don't really have that much dmg, and these ones have lower reload time and can be upgraded in gearlab to quad mags so you can recover your plates

[clever lance]

Cats?

[atomic abyss]

best damage and reload

purple quad mags are super slow

at that point, use the purple triple mags

[wide marsh]

Yeah. I see the point now. I should choose either normal quad or triple mags to gearlab them later on. Thanks.

What purple tier AA is good options except for roombas and quad bofors?

[atomic abyss]

dat's all really

[remote yarrow]

That's about it but, octuple pompoms aren't so bad I guess

[atomic abyss]

up till then you shdnt be worried about AA

[sacred parrot]

I just finished developing FDG, so I'm doing Anchorage rn. But after that can I just develop whoever

[jaunty vault]

would recommend to start with everyone from PR4

[sacred parrot]

aight

[fresh tangle]

Daily light pull so yes free

[shell willow]

[ashen berry]

which research focus

[undone plover]

Set focus to series 4

Make sure u dont mix up catchup and research

[jaunty vault]

depends™️

[ashen berry]

should i still do series 4 if i dont have these ones yet?

[jaunty vault]

how new are you

[plain saffron]

the gear in season 4 would prob get used more depending on how new you are

[undone plover]

You get the first 2 from protoshop and gear lab
Last one you will get later when u focus series 6

[ashen berry]

not too new, i just havent done much research

[plain saffron]

prob better to see what you already have

[whole crypt]

PR4 also has rainbow gear, don't see why that'll be any less important than those 3 guns

[jaunty vault]

assuming you're a complete noob in research, you should start with PR4 focus in Research Academy

[ashen berry]

i got 1 pr4 rainbow already

[whole crypt]

have you finished the PR4 ships

[ashen berry]

i finished all of pr1 through 6

[whole crypt]

and did you buy any tenrai prints

[undone plover]

Finish means dev30/FS5 not just researching the ship

[ashen berry]

ohh

ill focus 4 then

[whole crypt]

if you bought any Tenrai prints to finish that copy you'll want to research to finish a second copy anyway

[undone plover]

And u want to research pr4 to finish haku and agir as well

Once u have agir + haku at dev30 + fs5 and u get your second tenrai u can move on to pr5 (or 7 once we know more)

[ashen berry]

thanks

[jaunty vault]

np

[wide marsh]

Should I swap CAs repair kit or naval camo for fire extinguisher at w11 for more survivability?

[atomic abyss]

You only use fire extinguisher for your BB/C flagship in w11
There should be no changes to your frontline gear aux wise

[jaunty vault]

maybe try levelling your vanguards for more survivability

[wide marsh]

Thats why they are at w11, not w12+

[atomic abyss]

W12 has less vanguard pressure than w11 tho

[whole crypt]

12 just has less pressure for everything besides planes

[wide marsh]

I need to grind some waifus at w11 to save me bullins

[whole crypt]

how does this save bulins

[atomic abyss]

You can use like level 70 ships in w12

[whole crypt]

more like you can carry lv70 ships

[jaunty vault]

on safe

[wide marsh]

I don't want to waste resources for purple buli for rare ships. Grinding Juneau for later AA/PVP use

[jaunty vault]

[whole crypt]

what does that have to do with leveling in 11

[wide marsh]

11-3 drop Juneau and give some exp in the mean time

[late flame]

uh.. purple bulins are dime aplenty

[atomic abyss]

I feel like you're putting the cart before the horse here but

[wide marsh]

Not in early/midgame when I'm low on them and wasted my buli mindlesly while being newbie

[whole crypt]

you still get like 2 every week?

[wide marsh]

I need more obviously

[frank pulsar]

ive been retiring purple bulin even back when i was new player

[jaunty vault]

[late flame]

i've been throwing purple bulins to randomly mlb ships to save dock space back then lol

[whole crypt]

I mean you're at 11, you probably should be starting to explore SR and research ships, if you're not already using some URs, the purple bulin spend shouldn't be high by this point

unless you're still randomly LBing purples and blues for tech

[unique lantern]

so i finally got ägir to 25, are the 1k hp already enough to replace friedrich carl as tank for the boss fleet? getting the remaining 180bps is gonna take ages :v

(the skills being obviously wip)

[wide marsh]

7.5k or 1k hp?

[unique lantern]

dev level 25 gives a phat 1k extra hp and some aa and eva

[wide marsh]

Oh. Got it now.

[wispy herald]

Is Richelieu any good

[undone plover]

She is usable at 25
Not sure exactly who is tankier between dev25 agir and fried carl

[wispy herald]

Pulled her instead of Shinano

[undone plover]

Richy is decent
Better options exist

But dont pull perma banner
Save your cubes for events
Current event is also skippable if u are low on cubes

[unique lantern]

(oops shoulda saved cubes)

[wispy herald]

I got surprisingly lucky and got enough to max mlb alvitr and that submarine girl

So I’m using the daily free curves to pull on heavy instead

[unique lantern]

but wouldnt you still want to pull 3x daily? perma banner costing half seems the best way to conserve cubes

[atomic abyss]

Richelieu is probably one of the best BBs a new player can chance upon from the gacha so

[wispy herald]

I do currently have hood though

[late flame]

ah yes, to be lucky every pull

[atomic abyss]

Well hood can't fill BB slots after all

[wispy herald]

Oh wait

[atomic abyss]

As strong as she is

[wispy herald]

You’re right
Hood ain’t a BB

[wispy herald]

Nah I wish bro

[atomic abyss]

And well you can get hood from non gacha means so that's what I mean

[unique lantern]

oh ye, wait a moment, what do i fill bc slots with? i have a lot of bbs but whenever hard mode demands bcs i only have mediocre/garbage ships

[atomic abyss]

Well hood is the most obvious one

[wispy herald]

Gotcha. Should I develop Richelieu now or wait until a bit later?

[unique lantern]

guess imma go fishing for hood when im done farming money (these researches cost way too much money like damn)

[atomic abyss]

Besides the PRs like Odin and Rupprecht

I suppose Brunhilde, Seydlitz and Amagi are your next best BCs

Oh right
There's Repulse Meta too

[undone plover]

If u have hood already develop her instead of richy

[unique lantern]

what is the difference between main gun mount +1 and main gun base +1? does mgb add an extra projectile to each shot and mgm adds an extra shot?

[undone plover]

Also never pull 3x daily just for the mission

If u are still pulling an event to get the ships then spreading em out and doing 3/day is fine but the tokens from the mission are not worth the cubes

[atomic abyss]

Main gun base+1? Presumably on Alsace or Gascogne? Means they can store 2 shots

[wide marsh]

I dont like Seydlitz. She want wonderhistory ship but I dont want to waste my gold buli to level Lutzow for her. I got Thuringen, but she is bad imo.

[atomic abyss]

This is Azur Lane server
Not Genshin

[unique lantern]

mogador 🙃

[wanton smelt]

My bad. Sorry

[whole crypt]

the difference is inconsistent translation
1 MGM = pew
2 MGM = pewpew
3 MGM = pewpewpew

[atomic abyss]

Inconsistent wording then

[unique lantern]

aight, so same as mgm gotcha

(i dont even have the coins to lb to see for myself 😭)

[plain saffron]

official tl use base

except for older retrofit desc they didn't bother to update

[plain saffron]

you can tap and see the vid, well it's not really that obvious but you can see it shoot 2x instead of 1

[unique lantern]

also one last question
considering alsace kit, she is definitely better used as a mob fleet ship, right? she got preload, a heal and a supportive ability affecting the other fleet

[frank pulsar]

she work in both
she just as good in bossing as in mobbing afaik

[plain saffron]

if she is more dmg than your other BB definitely put in boss

[frank pulsar]

alsace part of top 3(4?) bb atm as well

[unique lantern]

asking since i already have a mlb fully upgraded NJ

[frank pulsar]

alsace has more dmg than her

[plain saffron]

she's better than NJ

[unique lantern]

o.o

i thought nj was the best dps bb there is

[plain saffron]

well she is when she came out

[frank pulsar]

nj is near bottom of the barrel when it come to ur bb
still much better than ssr though

[plain saffron]

then newer ships release with more dmg

[whole crypt]

NJ stopped being best DPS for a while now, it wasn't even Alsace that displaced her

except for PvP I guess

[unique lantern]

aight thanks, time to forget about the server for a week and come back with 10 more questions when i remember

[atomic abyss]

If you lack the other UR BBs
Alsace should be prioritised for boss because you'll want the damage she provides anyways

[unique lantern]

currently just leveling.
if alsace is going into the boss fleet this would be the fleet then with moga->helena, anything wrong here?

[whole crypt]

Enterprise and Sandy

[unique lantern]

dont have a replacement for enterprise and sandy is there for aa, what else would you put there, got yuudachi, kawakaze or suzutsuki left as vanguards

[whole crypt]

boss fleet for what content

[unique lantern]

currently w12, once im done farming some money (no time for manual) ill do w13 and w14

[whole crypt]

why not just stay in 12 and grind to 120/125 before bothering, and with the right ships

[unique lantern]

im doing that while farming coins anyways (research is hungry and i cant even lb my ships anymore because im always near 0)

have 3 bulins to get my moga to mlb but its so expensive :c

[whole crypt]

mogador isn't that high priority anyway

[unique lantern]

moga is love, moga is life 😔

[balmy matrix]

Should i buy Seattle gun from protocore or craft them from gear lab?

[jaunty vault]

whatever resources you have more of

[hazy marten]

so how's alvitr? any reason to pull, cause i dont see evaluations

[whole crypt]

I don't recommend crafting it from lab, if you have spare protocores I guess you can get them

[balmy matrix]

And what UR gear should i get first in the protocore?

[whole crypt]

did sam not samvaluate this time?

[jaunty vault]

tenrai ig

looks like it

[hazy marten]

i didnt find anything for this event

[whole crypt]

ah well, pretty meh ships

[jaunty vault]

@vale spindle stop being lazy 😡

[steady beacon]

Why don't you do it, cooper?

[jaunty vault]

coopvaluations coming soon™️

[hazy marten]

i got them all but alvitr, dunno if i should push for her

[jaunty vault]

only reason you should push for her is collection

[novel condor]

[hazy marten]

then its a pass cause slots

[steady beacon]

BB FP+1

[spring bolt]

isn't alvitr alright as a gold bb/bc?