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yeah do that for a little bit u will get enough tech in no time
Get grinding then
(If you're able to clear with less than 3:3)
D maps also have oil cap
oh yes jump straight to the hard maps
i can skip A maps?
yeah start from C
Tho some of the ship drops are on A maps only but they're like Rare and Common rarity shitters so they're kinda nonconsequential
After testing these level 120 BBs with +13 champ gun and black white shell on Spee, I can use my 🔮 to extrapolate to less-shielded bosses of other armor types who don't summon claws.
Spee: off flag rodneym > off flag Stella = flag izumo > off flag nelson > flag Marco
Light: Stella = rodneym >>> izumo = nelson > marco
Typical medium: Stella = rodneym > izumo > nelson > marco
Heavy: Stella = rodneym > izumo > nelson >> marco
Note Stella will lose 10% against fast bosses, and note slow reload BBs often need autoloader
how big is >
Mby 5-10% on the ship
what is stella?
constellation
/wiki stella
No wiki pages found.
ah
What is the Tech command again
/fleettech or /wiki fleet tech
strongholds still make me sad 
TIL dewey is a map drop ship
Do you like have a question or are you continuing this cycle of bitching?
wanna know what im even supposed to do at this point, nothing helps
literally read and apply what we've told you many times over
even a +10 wyvern does nothing
A single plane isn't gonna be an insta win key
pretty overhyped then

Im not sure i have asked this before BUt Cruise pass Meta ships is there a way to get more crytals for them to MLB them?
cruisepass metas you get more crystals by finishing the cruise pass missions and progressing the thing
i could almost say that the wyvern made it worse
this is a past one sitting at 4 starts if i didnt complete it am i screwed on MLB
i don't think you have the analytical skills to come to that conclusion ithe
Instead of your fleets that are evidently not prepared at all for it?
well i didnt even get to the boss this time so its worse
all the ships im using are well geared
you ready to post your fleet you're using so we can give some help (or laugh at you)
when football is over, sure
i can just put the subs in attack mode to weaken the boss and then also call them in, right?
subs do not weaken the boss iirc
aww snap
however you can call them into battle
bro why tf do i get warned when asking for help
warned by who exactly

by this guy
wow i'm mod?
None of the commands work on bosses
nimi /z23 says the warning reason does it not
Here we go again
"we"
With this guy, Man it's 5:30 am in the morning 
Opsi mobbing. Should I switch out Kitakaze for Hinden?
I think I’m addicted to Kitakazes machine gun approach.
wew
If hinden is dev 30
Hinden is almost 30, so when she hits it I will switch her out.
I’ll miss kitakaze, been with me for a long time.
Wew alright, what armor is Shoukaku?
medium iirc
Medium
are there any cvs with heavy?
taihou
Tai, Shin and Haky iirc
illu and formidable too, theres a few
Nakhimov probally its gona be Heavy iirc
she is a Soyuz hull, so ...
nakhimov is kinda squishy in the game so it can go either way
Nah, plating plays more a factor than citadel size when translating this stuff
rememeber it's a different game
i'm just considering the fact that she is a Soyuz Hull, so i think she is gona be heavy
would it be better for me to use my pr4 blueprints to finish haku fs5 and then go to another season or just grind it out using researcha nd save the bp for agir?
Just use them for Haku at this point
That should be able to auto all but the boss for strongholds if decently geared, but lots of improvement to be had if you want.
Helena isn't very tanky and is better suited on a "boss fleet" and not on your mob fleet. Roon is okay, but a lot better options out there. Essex is okay, but lots better options.
Dont you have anchorage dev 30?
what's your adapts looking like?
not enough stuff for a boss fleet
i wonder if you die after one mob or are you trophying that you can't one shot
but no gear
yep one shot trophy
we've told you that heals on the stronghold boss can hurt you
give roons gear to her
has this been answered yet? this is probably the first question to ask about stronghold difficulty
132 137 132, aiming for 400 this time to see if it helps
so, what we did when we didn't have enough gear for two fleets in opsi is we swap gear when we swap fleets... it's not that hard.
400 will definitely help
waaaaaaay too much work ngl
188/188/144 will give you the best results on strongholds.
you know what's too much work. one shotting is too much work
your poor planning doesn't constitute my emergency. If you don't want to do "work" don't come here and complain
oneshotting is impossible
so why do you insist on it. devs gave you three boss fleets and free heals. use them.
i dont wanna oneshot
it's kind of hard for ingeneral... give up trying until you can come back and say you're easily farming w13. You're not even out of w11 yet, yet have a 125 fleet and can't gear a second fleet. lol
there are presets, its barely any work at all. save presets - and you can easily equip and unequip
why would i attempt something thats impossible
He's been told that 4 times in the past 4 days already
i don't ask your reasons
you have 1 fleet
sounds about right
yeah bc i dont have enough stuff for a second
it feels like we've had this exact conversation multiple times already
because we have
Is there a cat min max guide?
gold cats good + edelweiss?
this should help you out
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide
Yipee!
just suck it up n deal with it smh, switching gear ain't that big of a hassle nowadays with presets. Just save one n swap for each ships.
wtf are presets
Mob fleet cats should buff dd while boss fleet cats should focus bb right?
Top right
Depends on the fleets, but 99% of players never want DD cats
thats a cursed loadout on uni, btw - unless you are really really new
I'm beyond poverty also 3 months nee
okie
you'll get there 😄
So cats should buff my cv/bb?
Ah 3 months in
, you'll get there as usui said 
0.999% of the time you wish you had Justice for the skill only. 0.001% of the time you actually have justice
Yay! Thanks
so, basically, if you're using bb, use cats that buff bb, and if you're using cv, use cats that buff cv.
Tune in for more tips
so what do i need to do do complete stronghold
Ok I will
please explain how this is a good faith question
more fleets
Just gear em up properly, if not enough just swap gears around
, that's what we used to do anyways
take your boss fleet, same one you try and fail to clear 11-3 with and smash it. if you fail you fail. 11-3 is easier than stronghold boss so i think the 11-3 failure is telling
The talents are honestly more important than the meowfficer skills - so pick the cat with the best talents and dont worry too much about the contribution of the meowfficer skills
how do i do that?
gear up what?
What aux does laffeyii want? Eva or hp or offensive?
Gear up your fleets?

she wants a USS aux - so the pearl tear or manju are good to fill the req. then give her a toolbox for the 2nd one
What is a cat skill 💀
go do /catguide in #bot-spam
cat skills are the blue things, talents are the colored squares that you roll for
homework time
Ok thanks
Did you even read the page Danna linked you?
Depends on her limit break level and enemy
why u don't want to push to w12 man ?
we all did that with purple ships at lvl 100 
it isn't that hard
u have a massively overkill fleet
but cat's contribution is largely marginal - i mainly use them for reload. i have my submarine cats for +40 RLD and my CV cats for +40 RLD
bc i literally cant
Not fully. I was weeding through the talents and comparing it to my cats
Is laffey ii better to mlb than vanguard? I can get 4 to mlb laffey but I haven’t gotten vanguard yet.
You could have legit steamroll 11-3 ships wdym u can't 
you definitely can, i easily got past w12 with a unicorn and level 100 ships i was leveling
depends on your ships and whichever you need more, vanguard will usually be better in most cases but as always depends on your account
well i legit cant
🌊 remember this dock? 🏃♂️
giant oil waste currently
what game is berke even playing? How can he honestly have a hard time with this game?
The long troll is impressive. No way this is real life
how that is you can't? What is the problem this time
is this 2021? Q_Q is oil still a limited resource?
Legit this, HOWWW when other new players are getting through just fine 
its been more than 15 hours since reset and i am sure i didnt take 8h ones that means even if the prev were 2 * 5h + 1 * 5h right before reset this still makes ply the 6th in queue at least
Either bait or you're running the cursed no gear setup on your entire fleet
idk i just see the failed screen
show gear
Hi, returning player here.
Just realized I have units from the sss gridman collab, is there a way to get their gears as of right now or should I just abandon them until a possible rerun?
farming ply gun?
on?
stronghold is more like w13 difficulty
if u aren't courageous enough to push campaign forget about it 
I'm just convinced this guy is a troll at this point, even if he says otherwise
just don't bother if he doesn't wanna take you guy's advice, that's what I did
your fleet you showed us
No way to get their gear currently
go to their thread, youll find gear
Fair nuff 
unless another collab, unlikely you'll ever get them
Rip
Gridman fleet is really nice tho for op si
Sorry for the cut dock. Was trying to fit all ships. What do you think?
then pay attention to the game and see WHY your fleet dies
You only excluded 8h so 12h is still a possibility
I see you're a man of culture
tell me how im supposed to push campaign?
Fr
The tenth thread 
So, are the gridman units worth maxing without their special gears and such? Or nah
have you tried pulling campaign instead of pushing? Because whatever you're doing, you're doing it wrong.
special gear, you mean rikka's gear? or the augments?
pulling?
But ok, what now? Extend it to 6? I got 6th once before actually, but only counting refresh which I attributed to refresh not increasing the counter, but ofc I have no actual idea how it works
Both
if you're pushing w15 or pvp, I'd go laffey 2, otherwise vanguard
yeah, whatever you're doing, do something different... like try actually taking advice
I’m stuck on w14 rn. 14-3
oh, well rikka isn't worth it. chika and akane are fine without their augments, you can use them.
Not like you've been told over 5 times already, but you refuse to take advice and just do whatever you want and we come back to the same problem yet again 
my refresh is still up, idk
900+ since I last played according to akashi, I have no idea what i'm doing tbh
Then go laffey 2
they are absolutely unusable without their gear.
Ty for the info
mby its not as much as impossible to get post first 5 as just chances drop drastically ?
incrementally maybe
I'll just say 6
Which is kind of a weird number, but ig it's the exact amount of researches you can queue right away?
How are your stuck on 14-3 exactly
5 in queue + 1 out yea
but projects existed before queue 
ill keep an eye out for more exceptions
I can clear it like 50-50. My mob vanguard sometimes gets nuked and loses like all hp in a single battle.
just for the record, rikka is the only one that has a special loadout. chika and akane are both normal ships and can use normal gear - and both were decent ships prior to their augments, so if they want to level akane or chika, they can do so
well guess to being back hardstuck again
Also thought about that cuz I couldn't observe a pattern for first 5 but 6th seems to be considerably more rare (Assuming refresh adds one for now)
just stop with the pity partying
so to clarify, the map is still on lethal and not 100% cleared yes?
wtf am i supposed to do when nothing works?
Oh look there's an orange name, can they deal with this?
and it's the out if ammo node that get's you yes?
Like actually take people's advice and improve your fleet for once in your life
Usually yea.
i do
if you can't be bothered to look at your screen and figure out why you're failing, and you can't be bothered to take our advice, why are you bothering to continue to play the game or pretend to ask for help?
🧢
~~new gen
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i mean you arent following what we're saying at all. yoou can't expect to suddenly beat campaign/opsi without doing anything
might be a bit of a long shot but can you double check what fleet formation you were using
when I'm farming escort fleets for 3 stars, is it better to do runs with bare minimum fleets before boss, or fight every fleet before I fight the boss
I'm surprised he hasn't recieved the salty belfast treatment yet 
Which one should I be using?
except that im doing everyting i can
double
Circular for W13
Double for basically everywhere else
you could get the world down to safe then 3 star
just take an L and move on, plenty of other gacha games
you arent even willing to swap equipment to use more than 1 fleet. ???
at this point its a routine
No you haven't, you just have the biggest defeatist attitude I've seen even when ppl handheld you through atleast 5 threads
Lmao I was using circular. Maybe that’s the problem.
that would definitely not be helping
i'm pretty sure if I had your account, I would have 12-4 on safe farm mode before end of the day
Then surely you can tell us how exactly your fleet dies at least rather than just saying "defeat screen"
Don't give him account sharing ideas 
That's the funny part, he cant because he doesnt pay attention to the game (I wish this was a joke)
does unzen have better dmg vs heavy armor than shimakaze?
on auto yes, manual I think Shima still has her beat
i only play on auto
Then yeah Unzen
If the battle lasts for more than 10s
the funny part is we keep paying attention to his posts 
like he has to be trolling us now, its actually been a week since this has started
much longer
so ive been neglecting leveling both unzen and hindy because they are strict dmg dealers - but is there like a chart which charts their dmg next to other big hitters? i am interested in top vanguard dmg dealers and what exactly is the difference
the only pure-damage dealer i recently leveled is mogador because she is funny, and i've been pretty impressed by her
is that real or cynical? I am struggling on 14-3 to get the full clear (on lethal still) but have only used single line.
is this the trp bulge stage
?
Considering that single line is the worst...
Unzen seems to generally do better than Hind on most content.
single line is just for torps, circle is AA
idk whats failing
that's surprising to hear. what's the reason for that?
retry the stage then look at how you die
does javelin go on right side or middle in a fleet? other two vanguard ships are portland and saint louis
then go into 11-3, and look what at what kills your ships
No reason because it's false
middle if same lvl or less
What do you mean? I’m using bulges if that’s what ur asking. Sorry I think i need clarification
double torp pre-load and double torp reload is wild.
Hind is good if you can double +13 her guns, but that's expensive.
ah. she's higher than saint louis so would she go on right
Eh, only one +13 is more than enough
so is unzen the strongest selfish dps vanguard ship?
because i don't think of another scenario that nukes the vanguards other than the trp
are u on auto ?
they are close if you +13, but yes Unzen is very strong if you can keep her alive, she's also kinda squishy
And also keep in mind that hindi can taillor her gear towards the boss she's fighting whereas unzen is stuck with torps
if only 1-2 lvls or still middle
Yea. I basically only play auto
survivability isnt in question - because whatever ship i use for the purpose of damage dealing - they would be in middle of vanguard since i already have a tank and off-tank. i am just determining the relative DPS of the strongest vanguards
Unzen isn't exactly a slouch on light either, she still has a very strong main gun mount
auto doesn't dodge so u most likely need to accept the gambling
okay, when I have enough oil saved up I'll try 14-3 with double line again and see how it goes.
tbf, i had no troubles in w13 normal with single line, but I'll keep circular in mind for hard mode. thanks for the randomly picked up knowledge 🙂
She's not the top but she doesn't fall out of the top 5 even on light
eh... just use both hind and unzen then
I dont have two slots, tho, middle vanguard is 1 slot
No doubt, but if you had to chose between hindin and unzen on light/med which one would you go for realistically
What’s the ratio between Unzen’s mg and trp dmg
why don't you have a slot in "off tank" for hind?
Oh absolutely Hindenburg
off tank is plymouth obviously
who tank?
guam
I’ll retry the stage again when I have the time to manual. Thnx for help.
for what content? Ply can tank most content tbh
Well of its in a BB fleet Hindenburg can get buffed by Zwei
if you arent dryng in w13h to planes, you could honestly run double as well
what exactly does retrofitting do to independence? I saw something about torp bombers but I didn't read the whole warning before I tapped on proceed
plymouth cant tank relevant content, she is better in off tank
running out of time actually
haha, you can't be serious
I don't even wanna
are youa ctually using no gear or what
He has to be running the foulest gear setup known to man at this point

Blue gear 
you know what, he's probably leaving it on manual, and not actually shooting any guns or planes
hes definitely using confetti gun
no
I only tried 13-1 hard once and my boss fleet died. but I was distracted when it happened so I don't know what happened. will retry with circular one day. (whenever I get enough oil to waste)
whats that?
+0 confetti 
no way he has full 125 fleet and running out of time with w11?? !! haha
what even is the confetti gun? I've heard it mentioned before but idk what it does
Should i replace Warspite by NJ? So i can have a full USS fleet
fyi, warspite isn't the coolest BB anymore.
shoots like confetti, gold twin 410
Bro im stuck in 2021 😭
ah. utterly useless gun, or does it have a use
buy shooting confetti i means nothing fucking hits lol
0 practical use
Just like confetti, looks nice
no use besides being the meme gun of the game
It’s exactly like shooting confetti in a real war
It shoots alot of pellets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ-ANXGUF8c here's a demo from suchi if you wanna look at it
stat stick
faction fleets bad
non mlb ships also bad
Oh yeah, Musashi might get a new gun soon
so what should i change to not run out of time?
you know what, he's probably leaving it on manual, and not actually shooting any guns or planes
Did you show us your gear on your ships
Daisen AP gun 
turn on auto of you havent
damn it really is confetti
Nah HE gun please
a few times already
Actually true tho, Musa’s been booted out of my AP BB team
I guess I'm blind, I can't find it
its in some seperate chat somewhere
What does this say on your fight screens? @meager gyro
this is counter intuitive, but it should say manual, not auto.
You did enhance your gear right? It's not all at +0 right?
its as high as my parts allow
i think its better to move focused discussions in a thread
You do know Daisen's gun is a twin right?
Still can better then a twin 410 Kai 
Another one to the collection 
I must say that I concur with your esteemed opinion
I"m looking for the last time he posted gear, and I don't think it's been recent.
Last time there was gear it was all blue
I'm convinced he has it in manual mode, and he's not even air striking or BB barraging
just checked again, its all as high as my ressources allow
even blue gear would pass w11 with that fleet
Yeah if you want help again, make another thread, post your w11 fleet there with your full gear loadout ig
At least I can't find a thread like that, unless discord search is acting up
I'm surprise he doesn't have a active thread
it's not up to us to find your old thread. if you don't want to repost stuff when needing help remember your OWN thread
since u got nitro, care recording screen and sending?
Looking at his past posts, I'm not sure he's capable of giving straight answers to "post your gear"... which leads me to think he's trolling
how do i make a thread again?
figure it out, its very very basic
By clicking this
alright thanks for the help
wheres this?
https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1254145175132045373 this one was a few days ago 


the lag between his responses makes me think his attention is divided and unfocused
there's a lot more to it than that 
what's the little gauge next to carriers in fights?
/detection
Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553
For more information, consult the wiki
Can someone clarify Nubian's Skill 2. In-game says she only buffs the damage that Nubian deals. But the wiki says that it buffs entire fleet
Idk if it's just me but I don't see any mention of a fleet wide buff there
In game was patched and wiki was not updated
oh okie, ty
if a ship says an enemy receives "increased dmg" - that's a fleetwide buff
similar to vanguard's skill 1 - which "increases dmg by all BBs"
Oh that part
Btw @cobalt rapids didn't have much success with the fleet you recommended so far. But I managed to die with 20s left 2 times today
Must be cuz my DD gun is only +10
did it perform less than ur prev fleet ?
also yea i basically never get to end of battle but as long as 3 strikes happen and maaybe kear 4th airstrike
Yeah I tried it as well and it didn't particularly impress
Pretty much same I think
And 4th Kear is kinda same as surviving till end of fight for me
which comp
for me it performed better than harbin/aegir variations
at the very least it upgraded my fleet to 2 scan able to kill
It was the usual Kearsarge, Alsace Yk2 comp but with Mogador instead of Agir
Kear Y2 Als Mog Hel Ply

For some reason the comp did a lot better with Guam over Ägir for me
wait u ran mog off tank right ?
no pearl?
I did
But I don't have any of the oaths there
do you only get one copy of the white and black shells or can you get more
core shop refereshes every month
Per month only 1
one of each per month
no pearl coz it performed worse than report
if helena is doomed to die on 3rd strike she dies anyway coz ply never dies

ah well maybe tomorrow, if I remember to...
I wouldn't bother investing in that, see if you have the Twin 90 AA gun
both guns are 🚮
Sigh... I need it for 12-4
if you need better guns those are not them
check if you can craft the Twin 90
📣
i don't think i do
Pr4 enjoyer > Pr6 enjoyer
i think the iron blood one can work
right
?
If it aint on ECTL, chances are that it's not there for a very good
It is 🤏 stronger than the purple quad bofors, but consider the cost
but sam's equipment guide lists it so i figured id ask
did you see what the guide listed it as though
"fast reload, decent damage, and good range"
The guide listing twin 90 in the same row as quad bofors and below single 90 is disgusting though, low AA ship or not
I have to find an active guild. Anywhere that people recruit on the discord specifically?
guild recruitment channel
sam needs to sort out the AA list...
Thank you for the link. I don’t know why I don’t see that one.
how do you link a channel?
how is Pomp, and Attilio damage? 
Type # like #gameplay-help
#bot-spam
ty
are you actually asking?
obviously
against light armor or how do you want me to answer/
just need a general idea
so pomp is pretty low, i would maybe put them a little bit above z23
attilio is a little bit below the DDGs
interesting, ya I'm just trying to figure out what to use for PR7
ran out of SN, and RN tech 
just use all of them
Damage? If 20% or 30% is "a little bit" then I might agree
these are all the aa guns i have, the quad 30mm isn't worth investing over the purple quad 40mm?
I'll probably run Luigi + Giuseppe + Atillo 
can't wait for faction fleeting while grinding new PR season.
@silk helm
oh okok ty sushigummy
If you need to spend plates and coins, then do it on a different gold gun
was this directed towards me? feel free to correct anything incorrect i say. are you saying i overstated attilo's dmg?
the only DDs "a little bit" below the DDGs are the rainbows and Nubian
Technically he also said that Pom is 20-30% better han Nimi
What did Nubian eat?
no idea, CN has her high
Chicken nuggies 
I just leveled her and forgot about her, like about 95% of ships
i didnt even mlb her lol
Can't get that +1 dd fp without mlb
a doubler is like running it twice
well Attilo is on the high end, but it's not close enough to DDGs
Yes unless your ship morale crossed a threshold
how do i get data keys?
Press the button once a day for 4 keys
Oh, when did DDGs get a new missile? 😅
This LNY
Alrighty, I had no idea
Ty I beat 12-4 without investing a lot into the golds
Hearing that you got past w11 and was able to beat w12-4 without much trouble gives me a lot of joy. 
i give all my thanks to the masterminds of gph
usually once you get into the pace of 12 beating 12-4 is more of a level issue, and the AA req for boss fight is actually slightly less than 12-3 because boss moved from CV to CA
We saved him from the clutches of kimo cheese
saving the lost ones one at a time 
Some people can’t beat w11 with decent lvl 125 ships.
I know someone like that, yes
but it's not because they listened to some shitty youtuber, it's just that they're casual and don't care about what they're actually using
Idk what went wrong but it's all +13 gun/torp/missile and no offensive aux, and ark royal is timed to instakill the torp shields. Divide tai yuan by 1.13 or whatever for 5 levels
I’m reading FdG’s skill and looks like she does not require flag, is that correct? Only thing I could be missing I think is her barrage that would make her want flag
Is Flapjack cheaper than Tigercat but slower?
Her barrage before fs5 wants her to be flag
being slower is a good thing
probably missile damage > torp, also hit rates, and barrage hit rates
So, how many flapjacks do I need?
flapjacks cost 1 less electronic but costs ordnance reports if you're working on anything else that uses T2/T3 ordnance
base plane is "cheaper" since you need purple corsair instead of gold hellcat
the launch time "slower" doesn't really affect actual airstrike timing very much but has faster intercept cooldown
also slow move speed giving more onscreen time for AA
I'm working on my first wyvern rn so, it's fine or nah? (Waiting for UR Aircraft design)
depends on how far you're at, you might want to skip making flapjack or tigercat at all
I'm at firecrest rn, just waiting for UR Aircraft Design
Also, I have only 1 flapjack, don't have tigercat
I would use a different gun but eh sure
Use quad mag
Sitting in the middle (only dodge claw) for maximum torp hit rate of > 50% and perma 100 kai in range (ply gun Otto, mog gun attilio, 100 kai tai yuan, normal quad mags and normal sy-1)
Z47 is a gun dd, right? She wants a decent gun
do you have enough of all other materials besides UR design, and how many designs are you short by? also any easy/fast designs like file zones you can pick up?
oh wow this whale aux is truly brutal
4 designs
missiles still just hit better than torps and didn't Tai Yuan's barrage home?
have you picked up UR designs from this month's port shops? any file zones you can clear
Yes that's part of what makes tai yuan a lot better than these gold DDs
Didn't clear opsi this month yet
well if you can get on with it you can probably finish that Wyvern this weekend
Idk if these fleets are good for now, kinda underleveled but still working.
OS grinding isn't hard, the only thing that should give you problems at all is arb
i thought yuan was the same as the other two, do you have a gif of her barrage?
That’s the problem
and you don't even need the arb design to hit 9 designs if you work on file zones
Does OPSI require 4 good fleets or are 2 fleets fine
most people do 99% of OS with 1 fleet
proximity works better if flag
cuz you know it helps to be proximate
Identical to other DDGs except that bullets are blue colored and the 15s barrage is aimed with high accuracy and speed at the closest enemy
so her 15 sec barrage - its like plymouth?
is hood’s special barrage damage type based on her gun type
Any else should I buy from voucher shop?
scroll down?
you cut out the most important stuff, can't tell if you bought it or not
a hidden zone logger was not the best choice
two r5 siren is better than one r6 siren for the same voucher cost i guess
these are easy UR prints but you'll need to start getting more vouchers for each month
they're one-time so do them when you actually have the spare vouchers
so if i give hood an AP gun it doesnt affect her special barrage damage?
or does her special barrage have its own damage type
Now I’m confused which should I get, R5 siren or File Logger?
only the FP stat of the gun affects damage by a tiny bit according to the standard FP formula
nvm, i found it, that's really good
this happened 
nothing play ops more
I haven't tried it yet what's the gimmick for Cancer? 
two R5 siren, one R6 coord, and one R5 coord
read the boss skills
I'm busy with another game rn 
it snatches your vanguard and eats them
do you have to 3 star stages and beat the next stage for it not to be Lethal anymore?
~~how would anyone ever get 15-4 safe if that was true
~~
all barrages have their own stats, your gun only affects it by the FP stat or if the ship has a specific skill that modifies the barrage based on gun equipped
100% the current stage and then beat the current stage N more times
Can't do, short of 100 vouchers
According to this picture you have enough
Pay attention to the difference between siren and coord
should i buy all the loggers from opsi exchange shop
not the special ones cause i already finished those
yes, more materials for gears
all coord items in exchange are worth it
so after i buy those, and the books, i just buy HELPs?
but you need to actually clear them
Guys are both nakhimov and napoli both bb or one of them is cv..the new pr7 dr
nahkimov is a cv and napoli is a cruiser
so far the only announced BB is the IJN PR
yes
Ohh ok ok ig i got.confused
What is the stage people use to farm for commissions to get gems?
I just farm 12-4 like usual
there's no real spot to grind gem comms
Whats best fleet line up for wichita meta fight?
I'm using that
Gear reveal
cheeky what are your predictions for daisen kit
I predict that he will be wrong 
I don't have too much hope for her TBH
At least in terms of having a memorable kit
it's a stage called real life, you grind actual work then buy the gems
coping for gem commissions is unrealistic
most SSRs fall to the wayside, Daisen would have to match, or go above Owari to be worth a damn 
that's just the "normal" comp so far isn't it
Alr imona try it
Guys the usual number of pr/dr ships released are 5 yea??..
as of the last 3 years yes
It's a workable comp , honestly implacable is more worthwhile
Why does my roon u (boss fleet tank) get shredded?
shrug I'm using basically that, didn't see better mileage from Implacable when I tried
What content are you doing?
Operation siren stronghold boss
there isn't really much to say about Daisen, she has torps, she has better than normal secondaries, uhhhh
like probably her main contribution is bringing another good IJN main gun for Musashi
What's the rest of the fleet looking like?
Doing stronghold so early , sounds like adapt

then she brings a torp
I'd hope they give us an actual good IJN HE gun 
Yeesh Warspite
I’m a poor man
we don't know if IJN BB gun coming right?
no but Daisen has a unique main gun not in game yet
so there's a good possibility
Look at my bb dawg I’m going to hell 😔
I'm curious what the UR Gear will be, surely not another CA Gun 
if you want start a thread, may need to rebuild your fleets
that boss comp looks scuffed
I'm between 4 options right now
UR 254mm AA Gun, UR CL Gun from Napoli, and a UR Rocket Fighter or HE Skip Bomber from Nahkimov
Would be neat if we got actual skip bombs
has there been a dr ship thats been shit since release
well depends on how you define shit
Boss fleet.
most underwhelming would probably be Drake
yea underwhelming is the word
I guess Brest to a degree but she's actually aged better as time has gone on if anything
VIT-2 is supposed to be Skip Bomb, and AL's devs made it so "torpedoes are launched in two waves of three" 
what no
Will brest will be ig better if fs5 comes.to her
speaking of brest, is she widely used in w15 because of her healing?
People who
on Brest when she came out doesn't know how the game works
Drake is effectively the worst DR ship but she's still just underwhelming, to say she's shit would only be relative to the investment required for her
idk Azuma is right there
dunno how much but FS5 is generally a improvement for everyone to some extent
Azuma is actually fine
no? she is tankier then ptheroptions
we're talking about on release bear in mind
In her fs5..yea??
you're still not going to find a ship much more durable than her outside of the other CBs and maybe Laffey II
poor achor
Azuma has aged kinda poorly with the influx of new UR CBs but bear in mind she's from 2019
she predates all the other modern tanky vanguard options by 2 years
Agir..guam..yea and brest..
Anchor is what really killed Azuma for me, far less investment, better performance 
to me Azuma, and Drake are equally the worst performing DRs the game offers
Can anyone help me build a boss fleet?
Post your dock in a thread
Drake Unique Aug when 
HMS doomers will say aug is shit and chuck Drake on the roadside anyway
they're also the oldest DR vanguards, it's just a matter of not aging well
and Azuma was less underwhelming on release than Drake was
Dps ships being the easier to powercreep , what a surprise 
dps, *and tanking
it's just something else to see Shinano still standing strong despite being the first UR
because outside of Impy they haven't done anything crazy with UR CVs
because we haven't had that many rainbow carriers in comparison to BBs
What a lack of actual competition for big damage CV does to a mf
if they released as many UR CVs as they did for BBs now it's likely something would have crept her
like Haku, and Shinano are very replacable 
huh?
Seems like Su-2 and VIT-2 don't have any guns?
not like it matters
kinda does
I suppose it means they can hold off from implementing the funny 23mm guns for a while
no guns means no AA for the plane
Sukhoi is just not worth bothering
VIT is like a midway TB you use for a bit before making Wyverns
assuming you did PR5 for long enough while waiting, otherwise barracudas are fine, and now there's bregeut in core 
even if it was a plane hell situation the lack of guns on those 2 planes shouldn't be the thing making or breaking your fleet
@viscid swift are the Tiers always the same as in WoW if they’re present there?
i gotta make firebrand and firecrest first to make wyverns right?
I forget which one specifically but you can buy one of those two in the core data shop
I went for that to save the electronics
firebrand then firecrest
You don’t have to do that by the way, core income is pretty slow too
Big brain I'll probs do that maybe
just among PRs I'll have to check but for all ships definitely not
You can buy firebrand for core
Thank you.
yes but at the point where you have enough materials to craft a wyvern cores shouldn't need you to prioritize something outside of firebrand
a ships face researchs will only disappear once the ship is d30 correct?
when ship is maxed for current available max, if ship has FS it'll only go away after FS5
Eh… shells, sub stuff, indep… core can definitely be lacking somewhat
bruh, i havent seen a brest research for a while now, 26 away from d30 
Whereas you can in fact rush a wyvern due to guaranteed ur plans
you cannot because you will need to unlock OS and be able to beat a good portion of it first
D30 or if they have it, FS5
that rarely happens before you at least have Independence and at least some shells
You’re saving 21 electronics… not going to break the bank
21 electronics can be a whole month for a new player in OS
Vs 800 core… one is much slower than the other to get I think
you get like 1800 cores a month if you do your HM on ch8
if you can't do your HM on ch8 or higher I honestly think it doesn't matter
I don’t remember enough about early game so I’ll take your word for it but my, that is much lower than I expected or remembered
just look at the enemy levels in c5, c6, strongholds and abyssals, and compare to what point in progression you'll need to be able to clear them without pulling your hair out, and otherwise grinding currency for shops
I'm not saying core will entirely cease to be a problem, but you can probably spare 800 cores by the time you gather enough materials for 1 wyvern
getting a zombie mod abyssal as a new player is fun
that's assuming you even have fleets that can kill a non-regen abyssal
is al able to be modded
no

Anything is doable, is it also bannable? Yes
this isn't some KR gacha game that doesn't care if you mod
what drops gold electronics
there's no designated drop location
would strongholds and high corrosion be the best to get them?
closest thing to guarenteeing Electronics is defeating normal difficulty arbiter and using the selector boxes on them
that or abyssal
the simple answer is to just clear everything with an icon on the map
hope pr7 will be good
it has cat girl, it must be good 
Do different levels on meta boss list give different amounts of sync points
for your own runs no
for your assits, iirc the damage thresholds for the pts are different and the total # of pts is different as well depending on the lvl
that's for damage though, if he means tiers then higher tiers more points
not that you should be doing anything below 15 by this point
and for your own fights once you clear a tier it only goes up until 15
is it Worth it given cube count?
if you have more than 400 maybe but yeah not worth
I wouldn't do it even if I had 1000 cubes
^
I only do those if they're the only good option I have in that rotation
what's worse than that
the only case I'd imagine it'll be the best research is if everything else on the lineup was basic or 6hr E's
which is what you keep refreshes for 
never. it's awful actually
Is there any way to get UR gear design plans other than the 3 in the ports?
File mission, cats, arbiter, abyssals
do research ships go into special dock? since there's new batch coming
ouch
you can choose to not research ships, it's hard to not obtain META ships
and the usual Just buy more dock space™️
so its more of a meta dock rather than special
that was what it was announced to be to begin with, yes
wait, is the meta dock infinite
Just buy more dock space™️
we really just get a PR Fletcher

yeah its in game news
Finally, another vanguard that can equip planes potentially
would be neat

She's a Hybrid in WoWs
but they've shown planes in art work before, and have made them attached to skills

Did you foresee this cheeky
Hahaha ha, no
Chikuma should've been a hybride 
Gonna have to revoke your speculation license
i foresee no IB ship in PR7
cheeky wake up halford dropped
hopefully halford will be as good as she is in wows
if she's a DDV that'd be interesting since we only have Fubuki
First Hybrid Vanguard since fubuki let's go
Avi stats but just barrage also a possibility
man...PR7 already looking more intersting than PR6
what stage do rockets not work?
None
okay
What do you mean not work, like be bad?
yes
Chapter 13+
cheeky when you say it takes around 4 months to complete a season, were you jsut doing any face researches you see or do you focus on one
How does fubuki work in combat?
Has an airstrike button just like ting an
Can bullet clear?
DR faces get prioritized over PRs
slap Tenrai on FBK, she'll air strike every like 24 seconds that's it
Would fighter slot or db be better
If Halford gets an actual plane slot it'd be fighters probably since she uses Bearcats in WoWs
question is if we can slap normal planes on halford 
I mean say in boss or mob
I'd take a fighter slot for hybrids
i can see them making her seaplane locked but adding f8f bearcat seaplane as her pr gear
I can see mods stopping useless speculation. Or not
Potentially, she's absolutely gonna have a plane gimmick one way or another
So having fighter slot would be better
I'm not asking about the pr. Like generally
Shes still a DD not new type
noted, and then if no face then grand donations?
Devs gave up on splitting sub type long ago
Rocket Planes on a hybrid would be more valuable to me than a Tenrai imo
That or Qs
nice thanks, depending on how 7 looks, ill do that
so potentially one more PR to announce, unless they want to make this a 6 ship season 
they haven't done a 6 ship season in like 4 years right
still no VAs I care about worst series since PR5
Will northe parlioment get a DR ship?
They have
it got one
Nakhimov
its gonna* get one
not announced in game news yet
cat
Finally a faction i have tech points for
nyakhimov
is it just me or does halford have the ability to carry planes? cuz i noticed she has air power as a destroyer
skipping pr5 andpr6 for this for sure
She has planes, it’s like her whole gimmick in wows
Wait for datamine
Blog in #al-general
mb
speculations in #al-general
...
At least a plane barrage, unless her bullet barrage scale of avi for some reason
Wait for datamine

gph no fun these days 
would g projects be the best research for finishing a entire season after cube missions?
Make gph fun in #1020044605053476994
is there a list somewher that shows how many BP to dev 30
/devbp
depends on what you mean by "finish" because gear exists

if gear probably Q and G
as in just ships dev levels
face
DR D > G for sure, and probably PR D > G too
was trying to check how many more BP i would need fro brest
Not gear
does d missions just give 1 ship or does it give bp for more
former
PR5 gear very important
wait what does D researches take
gold
the thing is ship prints are far less RNG than gear prints
which was why i assumed that grant donations in general would be better for getting all the ships to dev 30 rather than focusing on a certain ships
if you end up coming back to PR5 for more q152s then you'll just be sitting on excess Brest prints
The D rate is simply higher than the G rate for ship bps
D is face?
yes, unless thats a O
then yeh
JP players be like
you're guaranteed ship prints and it's also guaranteed to be of that ship
D is face, yes
How do you do this?
isnt that rng
so if i was trying to finish a pr season quickly for ships, i should do 1 hour cubes and the d missions, correct?
the funny move tiles that exist in every secured zone
the long chain is dr and the best way to get dr is to eliminate pr. if you take g's you'll end up with 513 of each ship.
so repeat map 15 times and you're done 
Funny move tiles?
so i should do the pr ships research first in order to get rid of them and dr research will be easier to aquire right
welp, comprehension not my strong suit it seems
dr > elimination pr > rest
what would elimation pr be?
just do faces as they come, take DRs first 
so if using pr6 as a example, if i had dr research i would take that and if not i would take shimanto and everything else after
More or less
there's no need to think too much about it
🫠 i think too much
just don't 
focusing faces alone should already be enough to wrap up season in about 3-4 months, there's also event prints
assuming gear will be good I'll prioritize rigging though, just wait for datamine 
At least 1 per zone spawn
PR7 July 11th 
PR7 Datamine July 11th 
only if secure
they'll ask anyway 
This may a stupid question
Where do I fight Arbiter?
the very middle of the map
can cv protect themselves from planes?
cvl can, not cvs i think
Says unavailable-
what are cvl aa guns for then
like ark is going to have issues if you use russian planes
it got added to the circle
did u clear the zones around it?
Not yet. I'll go do that
prob because they want it to have less plane so fill the empty slot with aa gun
then give it more plane anyway
if i am doing w13, should i kick out enty from my boss fleet?
really depends who u have, and enty is good bosser
prob nope, depends. also did you use normal fighter
who are you kicking her out for
she always gets to low hp during boss fights
that's not an Enty problem
bruh just dont fight escort using ur bossing fleet then
why do you think i am killing mobs with my boss team?
he probably just doesn't have enough AA or DPS is too low so fights are too long
or rocket fighter
cuz u say enty hp become low when u fight the boss ?
What even are your fleets?
you can lose enough HP just within the boss fight itself if your setup is scuffed
well that ur AA problem not enty problem , enty job is dealing damage not tanking the plane thrown at u
particularly when you get planespammed by carrier bosses in 13
imagine asking damage dealer to tank 
u need more AA in your vanguard
or better DPS
both honestly if possible
well he said he want to replace enty at w13 boss fleet cuz her hp drop fast
thats cuz theyre leaking planes
Is this gun not craftable in Gear Lab? I realise I can't find it in the Gear Lab wiki
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_100mm_AA_(Type_98)
this isn't vanguard there's no tanking involved
how did that becoming they asking enty/dmg dealer to tank
hms enterprise
PR1 research only
Huh you would think that would be in gear lab but hmmm
it's not a great gun anyway, just forget it exists
Devs probably forgor and no one complained because it fucking sucked 
Moment

team
you probably want another carrier, and probably some serious gear issue
drop bismarck
That's Zwei
fuck
ibuki gun 
how do you even identify that
zwei has that skin?
ur frame?
oil cost?
i can use old skins on her
oathed can use both ver
alters can use other skins
Rainbow background
huh thats new to me
gear issue.
as long as 100 affinity
if you want to fix that start thread with gear shown
it's been there like since the start of II
someone didnt pay attention when yorktown oath skin was a thing
this was before oath skin sharing
true, its just that during that time there was questions like almost every few hours or so regarding whether alters can use such skins lol
Thread
i more or less dont care about skins
Uhh, where can I see Freidrich Carl's barrage animation?
guam has an oxytorp 
wait thats bad?
its so random
yes?
i wanna say wiki but couldnt find it hmm
Ye I looked on there
look at her profile where you LB her
should agir or guam have my triple 305?
She doesn't even have torps so it's literally deadweight on her 💀

Prob on CN Wiki
Going from 0 trp to 100 trp will double her torp damage 
0 x 2 is still 0
infinity% increase
is alasce better in a boss fleet?
She works fine in both
This goes for basically all Gacha UR BBs as well
Context and options dependent on where she would specifically go
finnaly got someone to thorw akane out?
go to thread pls
you mean like essex? for sure
I thought that Helena skin wasn’t released yet 👀😂
Ah limited 😭
just wait for black friday during nov for some skin reruns
Yeah apparently Black Friday has a bunch of skins. Better put some gems aside for that 😂
only if prepared to whale
f2p should really just do dock space
I’m definitely not f2p
is the fair winds cruise good value?
only if you like the skin
I’m at 360 dock space and rising
if u want skin sure
why is the ui like that?
they deleted
yeah lol
deleted what
the message
it's been like that for a while
the question on unique sticker that comes with skin (purchase) , nagami
is putting those bgm changing aux on CVs a good idea for the accuracy bonus, or just double steam catapults
which aux? there are too mnay bgm mchanging aux
any of them, they're all 36 hit
worth against enemies with like 150+ eva, which don't exist in pve ||yet||
juat in case you ment event ones, like the ssss. collab one
only one more PR ship that hasn't been revealed right?
if it's 5 ship yes
who could it be 
if normal schedule should be soon...
I hope it's a CV 
gonna be CL
calling it IB bb
it's going to be a BB/BC/CV/CA/CL/DD *strikeout as appropriate
sepculation is this way #al-general
you miss BBV
might as well add AE and AR then
and submarine
frigate
but BBV is actually good 👆 🤓
We don't have repair or ammunition ships in WoWs
also miss the <@&472236072743600148>
?
whole page of speculation and off topic

was a whole moderator ping really needed for that?
Yeah as much as we want to avoid that just pinging me or any of the other gph mods would suffice...
But thanks
Lessen the speculations and theorizing for who and what and where next time, next time this discussion pops up you guys will get a slapping

can i get away with having no flapjacks in w15 ?
Maybe
where do i use medals of honor?
medal shop in shops
Or requisition but that's a complete scam
ah its in the monthly section ty
wasn't the flapjack lab update after ch15 launch?
i'm asking for a friend who for some reason only has tigercats lol
I don't actually remember crafting any flapjacks for starting ch15 because already had a bunch of tigercats
mmkay danke
well it'll probably be easier with flapjacks but you shouldn't need them per se
no single ship or piece of gear is needed to win
are you saying you can win without ships and gear

