gameplay-help

[frank pulsar]

i dont think bowgun is used outside of heavy armour, unless the boss got low eva or smth

[cobalt rapids]

not rly unless it was that one EX

[jaunty vault]

on the ship stat page, click on archive, and then click on details and then look at top right

[strange sphinx]

SN= Northern parliament

[sharp socket]

whats sardine empire prefix

[frank pulsar]

RN i think

[inland shoal]

Wait I thought Eagle was HMS

[sour osprey]

also, does anyone know if “combat data collection” in the shipyard mission works with xp books? or do i have to manually get a million xp

[frank pulsar]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

• Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
• Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
• Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.

[strange sphinx]

HMS =His/Her Majesty Ship, just hkw

[calm rose]

sardine yea its RN for them

[sour osprey]

yikes, i’m assuming itll take a very long time then?

[frank pulsar]

nah, just 2-3 weeks for normal player

[sour osprey]

so should i just not grind it and just let it accumulate passively

[sharp socket]

grind

[strange sphinx]

PRAN and ROC =Dragon Empery

[frank pulsar]

if you have oil capped stage available to you i dont see why not just grind, running 3 ship of relevant faction in 12-4 makes it pretty quick

[sharp socket]

u need like 3-3.6m xp, so just load up 3 ships of the faction and grind the xp on oilcap like 12-1

[frank pulsar]

it good excuse to grind tech at same time to

[sour osprey]

oh, I’m still on like chapter 4

[calm rose]

yea then you should first make your way to oil cap stage. dont focus on farming xp for PR ships first

[sour osprey]

gotcha ty

[atomic abyss]

you can ignore the research ships till then yeah

[frank pulsar]

you dont have to worry until youre at w12 then
at that stage you dont even have a working second fleet, push to w9 first so that you can grind for coin and exp more easily

[strange sphinx]

FFNF = Iris Libre, What FFNF does even mean

[calm rose]

free french navy french no idea what the last one is

[atomic abyss]

free french naval forces or sth

[sharp socket]

france’s french navy (from) france?

[frank pulsar]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips give this a read

[wide marsh]

What are good FLAK options at purple tier (except for QUAD boffors which i dont have enough to gear up whole fleet)?
Is golden octuple POM-POM better than purple Quad-boffors of same enhance tier?
Should I swap repairkits for AA to ease my 12-1 farm?

[atomic abyss]

frontline shd still carry their usual HP/Evasion gear
if you lack sufficient gold roombas and bofors, feel free to use whatever else AA you have to spare

[sour osprey]

are any ships aside from unicorn worth picking up from “elite ship” in guild shop?

got all in the beginner guide

[atomic abyss]

i'm assuming you have helena then
if so then not really for the short term

[sour osprey]

alright

[wide marsh]

If you got some spare tokens you can invest in subs i think. Wolf pack is good option

[strange sphinx]

MNF= Vichiya Dominion

[atomic abyss]

not worth in short term

[sour osprey]

submarines? just making sure i don’t buy the wrong thing

[atomic abyss]

subs are more late game thing anyways

[sour osprey]

oh alright

[lofty blaze]

Retrofit worthy ships for mid-late game?

[atomic abyss]

san diego, the DDGs, Saratoga, Nelson

ofc, assuming you mean like w12

[lofty blaze]

Yes thank youu

[atomic abyss]

you shd have already retrofitted stuff like uni/port earlier ofc

[undone plover]

indep

[atomic abyss]

oh yeah indep too

[strange sphinx]

Welp, still waiting for my indep to finish her skill upgrade

[lofty blaze]

DDGs? As in the three starters?

[atomic abyss]

no, as in tai yuan/an shan/chang chun

[lofty blaze]

Ah, I retired tai🙏

[calm rose]

its fine, shes in the guild shop, under the elite category, but unless you have her retrofit item, you dont need to get her

[fresh tangle]

Helena surely

[zinc turret]

For 12-1 1 unicorn retrofit can carry 5 ship for mob fleet

[brisk shard]

is Howe good?

[jaunty vault]

yes

well it depends where you use her

[brisk shard]

what is her role?

[jaunty vault]

boss damage and support

[loud rover]

drake gun worth getting or should i just save protocore for better options?

[worldly pewter]

depends on what u have

[soft raft]

not a high prio in general
Esp if you havent gotten Tenrai and Plymouth gun from there first

[loud rover]

Not much for CAs I only have one damage CA being unzen

[whole crypt]

not for CAs, your overall gear situation, CA guns aren't particularly high on the hierachy

[forest palm]

we up to 3 PR7 ships, ya? or did CN release anything?

[whole crypt]

release as in?

[forest palm]

a teaser

[cloud fractal]

Do you get double exp for using high efficiency plans or just double drops.

[steady beacon]

CN has added nothing as yet

[whole crypt]

doubles everything

[cloud fractal]

Excellent.

[whole crypt]

including costs

[late flame]

think of it as doing 2 runs in a single run

[forest palm]

so Daisen, Napoli, and Nakhimov so far

[forest stratus]

anyone know where do i use this things?

[whole crypt]

CN announced what JP announced

[meager gyro]

time to build my first wyvern @whole crypt

[whole crypt]

prototype shop for buying UR bulins and retrofit items

[forest stratus]

thanks

[whole crypt]

good for you

[worldly pewter]

don't scrap it later for plates

[meager gyro]

not enough gold

[whole crypt]

the usual, keep grinding with oilcap

expenditures at that point in the game gets rather high

[meager gyro]

whats oilcap? is that a ship or an item or what?

[whole crypt]

ch9+ stages where oil cost is capped on clearing mode

basically what you're already doing

[soft raft]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[whole crypt]

campaign maps with cost cap will also drop bonus coins based on the oil spent as well as bonus plates, so you should be fine as long as you keep that up

[worldly pewter]

did he reach 12-1 yet ?

[meager gyro]

we dont talk about that

[balmy matrix]

How many slots will be unlocked if i buy 2nd floor dorm? (first buy)

[half plover]

as many as you have on the first floor

[silk helm]

does this shop every refresh? i swear wiki said every 3 days

[half plover]

it refreshes every month

[plain saffron]

wiki still have the old one

[silk helm]

ohhh okay

[balmy matrix]

Like 6 slots unlocked in the first buy?

[half plover]

sandy retro on 12-1 is way too overkill ngl

[half plover]

basically when you buy slots in dorm you buy it for every floor

so if you have 4 on the first you will get 4 on the second, same with 6

[balmy matrix]

Ok I see

[meager gyro]

who gets the wyvern?

[novel condor]

I just use em on Uni tbh

[grizzled sundial]

How do i delete cat in the cat lodge ?

[novel solstice]

Feed it to another cat.

[elfin hollow]

feed them to other cats

[sour osprey]

does enterprise have any skins?

[shell lantern]

yes

[novel condor]

She has yes

[shell lantern]

lots

[sour osprey]

is there a way i can sort by ship in the skin store

[novel solstice]

Go to your dock, tap on a ship, and then tap skins to see a preview of all of the skins for her.

[sour osprey]

tyvm

[shell lantern]

She even has a oath skin i think

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Enterprise/Gallery

[fluid shore]

When pr 7 is released, will pr 5 become coinable?

[finite crag]

we'll know when we get there

[cobalt rapids]

based on prev years coining for pr follows close to new pr release

[viscid swift]

If you class 6 months as close then yes

[elfin hollow]

I don't know it is the appropriate channel to post this but, I just got Houston 2 this morning, which was the last ship I was missing but my completion rate is 99.9%. I checked and I miss no ships nor retrofits nor META ships. I only miss the neptunia and the vtuber thingy but I know they do not count. What could be missing ? (repost because post was drowned in other messages)

[cobalt rapids]

oh yea it was fs5 for pr not coin, mb

[viscid swift]

Check if you have retroed Colorado

[elfin hollow]

That's it thank you. But it's weird, she doesn't appear in my "not obtained retrofit" category in the memento

[crimson glacier]

coz thats not how not obtained works

[cobalt rapids]

not obtained means u didnt obtain the ship not the retro

[soft raft]

What's the Arbiter for this month again? Light?

[cobalt rapids]

temperance light

[half plover]

whaaat

[cobalt rapids]

what

[atomic abyss]

[half plover]

is this normal on ships when you marry them? that they look different without having an unique skin

[atomic abyss]

some ships have unique oath lines

[half plover]

but doesnt she usually have a mask on

[cobalt rapids]

not normal

post oath some expressions are maskless yea

[half plover]

ooh nice

is illustrious a good ship to mlb?

[cobalt rapids]

not rly

[soft raft]

at best W15 support fleet material

[cobalt rapids]

she delegated to support in w15 but not worth over other alternatives till then

[half plover]

oh I see, ty

and between noshiro and z47?

[cobalt rapids]

not rly worth either, depends on ur dock but there most likely better options

[half plover]

I am not sure but I think the highest tiers I saw were amagi and suzutsuki right?

I could mlb 2 sr ships

[dawn crest]

So is there any data mine of pr7 ships and weapons?
PR5 ships will be coin up, haku and agir too?

[whole crypt]

no datamine until next Thu

we don't know if PR5 coining will come yet, DR4 will probably be later too

[dawn crest]

mlb what you need most now.

[viscid swift]

Next batch of coining won't be for another 6 months at least

[half plover]

I need dragon empery but I got nothing lmao

[icy mountain]

is this gun worth it?

[dawn crest]

no

[cobalt rapids]

none of these golds are particularly usefull

[half plover]

I see

[icy mountain]

what about this?

[soft raft]

Not really
It's basically the American and HE Equivalent of Yamato gun

[soft raft]

Timing sidegrade to champy gun

[dawn crest]

so next year

[icy mountain]

hmm, if only u played during soyuz event

i couldve gotten the new AP gold gun

[half plover]

when my enty hits lvl 120 crysis starts

[sour osprey]

what do blueprints do?

[cobalt rapids]

what blueprints

[sour osprey]

special general blueprint

[cobalt rapids]

u can turn em to dr prints so u can enhance them

but u can save season 2 and 3 prints for protocores

[sour osprey]

enhance them?

ohh like their retrofit?

[tame jungle]

No

[sour osprey]

huh i read that on the wiki

[tame jungle]

Just let them sit for now, i’m pretty sure you’re too new to be worrying about that

[sour osprey]

alright got it ty

[tame jungle]

Don’t wanna make it too complicated early on lol

[cobalt rapids]

its shipyard related which u shouldnt worry about till u reach w12

[finite crag]

they have nothing to do with retrofit just let them collect dust for now

[viscid swift]

basically you use blueprints to enhance and limit break PR ships instead of commons and bullins like normal ships

[unreal bloom]

I have 350 pr3 exp combat data packs. Should i get cheshire or drake with them?

[cobalt rapids]

protocores

[nocturne shoal]

how do I get my recon value up?

[cobalt rapids]

avi and eva

[unreal bloom]

It is just 700 protocores. That is just like 10 or 12 blueprints

[nocturne shoal]

ah so more cv than gun then

alr thx

[viscid swift]

you don't buy ship blueprints with them for one, you use them to get gear blueprints
2nd, it's still much more valuable than XP for which the grind can be done in under a week

[soft raft]

Always convert to protocore
And dont spend said protocore on ship BPs

[unreal bloom]

Yeah

[nocturne shoal]

should I use my UR bulins for shinano or save it for FDG

[unreal bloom]

They are like 10 12 tenrai bp

[cobalt rapids]

u cannot use ur bulins on fdg

[viscid swift]

FDG doesn't use UR Bullins

[nocturne shoal]

oh 😭

[finite crag]

10 more than you would have otherwise

xp grinding is the easiest part of the pr grind

[unreal bloom]

But i dont like it and my question was cheshire or drake. Not other things. I think i was clear enough

[elfin hollow]

Is the bonus damage from Siren Killer and 11-13 gear additive or multiplicative

[finite crag]

well the answer is neither

[steady beacon]

Additive up to max 20%

[elfin hollow]

Word, tyvm

[viscid swift]

and I'm telling you neither, it's a shit use of combat data packs

[unreal bloom]

Not all of us have the time and battery to grind exp on auto all day.

[finite crag]

using 700 protocores to aquire mid ships faster is not a smart use of the packs

[lament bay]

is bf109 or a ryuusei better against medium armor?

[cobalt rapids]

bf

[finite crag]

youre not missing out on anything by not getting cheshire and drake either

[viscid swift]

so be it, that's all the more reason to not use them for XP, neither Drake or Cheshire are particularly high-priority targets to unlock

[finite crag]

they arent exactly meta defining

if you cant find the time to grind out the xp imagine trying to get a tenrai especially without the help of those 700 cores ouch

[unreal bloom]

I am not minmaxxing here. I just ask which of them is better to go for because i want one of them. It is a simple question of a or b. Why cant nobody answer this ffs. I have tenrais already

[finite crag]

then just pick whichever one gets you hornier idk

[crimson glacier]

when both are meh it doesnt matter which one you go for

[viscid swift]

this isn't even close to min-maxing, it's just smart usage of resources

[crimson glacier]

so just pick the one you like more

[viscid swift]

and even if you have Tenrais, there's other things to go for in the prototype shop still
457, Plymouth gun, Champaign guns if you don't have them for some reason, etc

[sharp socket]

i figured out i can grind xp even faster by using 2nd floor more efficiently, so im not going to use the cdp for agir/haku but itll still take like 3 weeks because im capped by oil gain

[crimson glacier]

but how can you be capped by oil for that long

[sharp socket]

i maxed out all the soft caps and now im getting hard capped by oil

[crimson glacier]

when i could do the grind within time gates just with natural oil regen

[viscid swift]

why would you deliberately let yourself get hard capped on oil

[sharp socket]

no i dont mean that

i mean im at less than 500 oil every day

[crimson glacier]

he is saying that oil gain is gatekeeping him from doing it faster

[sharp socket]

i spend all my oil, every day

[zinc turret]

sadly but true , if u didnt care about meta then prioritize waifu META way to use combat data is to turn them to core

[sharp socket]

maybe i should look into mvp prioritizing

[viscid swift]

no you shouldn't

it's an utter waste of time

[sharp socket]

what does it do anyway

how much more xp can i gain from it

[viscid swift]

100% more XP to the ship that get's MvP

[crimson glacier]

its double exp

[sharp socket]

so thats 25% more total exp gain

alright how do i do mvp prioritizing

[finite crag]

you dont

[crimson glacier]

how did you get 25%

[icy mountain]

should i upgrade my hellcat into a tigercat?

[keen sable]

Ops more. Easy peasy

[sharp socket]

3 ships farming xp, so example 300 xp per fight

one ship gets double so 400 xp total

[crimson glacier]

and 400 is 25% more in your world?

[sharp socket]

100/400 is 25% more net xp

[icy mountain]

just deal the most dmg

[viscid swift]

that's not how the math works....

[finite crag]

holy math 😭

[crimson glacier]

how much is 300 times 1.25

[sharp socket]

nevermind its 33.3% more

[crimson glacier]

🙂 👍

[sharp socket]

even better, guess ill drag the main guns off my backline

[viscid swift]

it also depends on if it's main fleets or vanguards because the flagship get's 50% more XP by default

[sharp socket]

50% more on top of the 100%?

[crimson glacier]

all exp boosts are multiplicative

[viscid swift]

if the flagship get's MvP yes

[icy mountain]

should i do it or nah?

[sharp socket]

im not mathing that i suck but ill assume thats very big

[crimson glacier]

so flag getting mvp gives more total exp than other backliners

[sharp socket]

man i shouldve learned this earlier

maybe avp wouldnt have taken a month to cdc then

[keen sable]

It's not.

It takes about 40k oil to develop a ship. That's less than two weeks.

[viscid swift]

it's not worth bothering with frankly, you'll have to gimp your main fleet hard if you want to give a vanguard MvP which has other knock on effecs like less consistent and longer clears

not to mention AA damage distribution can also screw over who get's MvP

[crimson glacier]

well it depends on the ships

some vanguards get mvp easier than others

[sharp socket]

thats a bad reason because i have access to power points, a charger and i only need to click a button every 20 minutes

i can do this fine after i figure out how to do it

[exotic wren]

~Tbf as long as none of your backline has a preload and the ship you're trying to mvp has a high enough DpS it should MvP pretty consistently imo~

[sharp socket]

hey i can also do this to level my ships

[viscid swift]

yeah, that's one of the main qualifying factors in which ships you use for CDCs

but you can't exactly farm CDC if your ships keep dying and losing morale as a result

[sharp socket]

out of eugen, roon and z23, which is most usable in harder content

[keen sable]

Obviously you shouldn't be using 120s to farm anything if you can help it. Ships like oknv, li, and fusou won't raise themselves.

[viscid swift]

they're just tech at best

[sharp socket]

fine ill go look at it myself

[whole crypt]

at least Napoli would give me a reason to level the pasta DDs first

[viscid swift]

meh, good thing I saved Pola, Bolzano and Trento for her

[sharp socket]

roon it is, she has the most useful 120 tech of the 3

[viscid swift]

you know you should be using 3 ships for XP grinding right?

[sharp socket]

i am using 3 ships

[reef flume]

I have only Zara🥲
Hopefully she'll be like Marco Polo aka that to grind her either IB or Sardegna ship are fine. If she can be grinded only with Sardegna ships then I'm cooked

[sharp socket]

the 3 i listed, but roon will be the one i want mvp on

i just realised i have to give a CA highest damage contribution, this might suck a little

[keen sable]

I doubt it. If you have to ask you probably still need to downcycle gear. Ie when you get a better gear you give former gear to another ship that still needs better gear.

[viscid swift]

you can get Trento from the merit shop

along with some other Italian vanguards

[sharp socket]

my CAs are pretty bad at doing damage and theyre 120, yeah this will suck to do

[reef flume]

I'll check. But rn Napoli isn't the next ship I wanna research

[night pumice]

damn, Italian pr ship

[nova halo]

when will the new PR ships drop? next week?

[viscid swift]

yes

[nova halo]

kay tks

[night pumice]

which ships give most tech for uh sardegna (i am assuming this ship will be okay just because its a dr and i dont have any), do I just go run war archive and grab every Italian ship available

[nova halo]

the triple 254mm of Napoli might be the new UR gear

[reef flume]

Me hoping her gun will be SR:

[viscid swift]

just wait and see

[nova halo]

or one of Nakhimov's planes

[keen sable]

#off-topic

[nova halo]

@keen sable still in-game disscusion

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki fleet technology

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

[keen sable]

Speculation is not in game discussion because it's not in game

[cobalt rapids]

i use this

[nova halo]

should be in #al-general, but that's ok

[cobalt rapids]

one shot if helena scans twice

[nova halo]

fully auto or manual?

[cobalt rapids]

auto

[whole crypt]

not like it matters if you're just burning 12

[viscid swift]

it does if you're trying to prioritize good tech still

[reef flume]

What's this website again?

[whole crypt]

more like I'm already done with the CAs so

[cobalt rapids]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[reef flume]

Thanks

[whole crypt]

won't have any time to do any serious grinding till Saturday anyway

[nova halo]

are u guys also clearing strongholds for more pts? in OPS

[viscid swift]

yes of course

[cobalt rapids]

im clearing strongholds for gold plates but yes u should clear em for mats and alot of purple tokens

[nova halo]

it's a bit laggy so i'm not clearing these zones

[viscid swift]

there's also a good chunk of gold plates to get from strongholds

[nova halo]

they should add the auto clear fuction for strongholds

[cobalt rapids]

u can auto clear strongholds

[nova halo]

how? i do manual all the time

[cobalt rapids]

unless u get fked by fog u just go in click recon and then auto

[nova halo]

gonna test it tks

oh fuck it worked tks

[forest palm]

[fresh tangle]

What are the recommended adaptability numbers again for strongholds in opsi?

[steady beacon]

Stronghold is uh
188/188/144

[nova halo]

how i can get more of this? i bought all of them in port shop

[calm rose]

Pray akashi spawn for you in opsi

[nova halo]

kay

[viscid swift]

you also get them from clearing explorable nodes
some are guaranteed to give you 100 AP

if you want to rush OpSi, you need to hunt down and clear them first

[whole crypt]

they're also rewards from some daily missions, so there's that

[nova halo]

tks guys

[fresh tangle]

I think hidden zones can end up giving you net positive ap too?

[viscid swift]

that's only if you run into akashi
which appears to happen more regularly than secured but still not guranteed4

[whole crypt]

hidden zones don't guarantee you scamcat and they're limited

[fresh tangle]

Feel like I get her a lot tbh

Maybe not quite 50% but not far off

[whole crypt]

doesn't matter, you clear up your hidden zones regardless, whether they end up being AP positive is not relevant

[fresh tangle]

Ah so you only get a fixed number of hidden zones per month. I thought they might refresh

[delicate lance]

Wanna ask, what is the alternative for flapjack

[whole crypt]

it's not fixed but you do run out

[atomic abyss]

tigercats
tho they're more expensive to craft sooo

[whole crypt]

shops only have so many, then you're up to RNG from missions and cat dives

[atomic abyss]

unless you mean what's a "poverty" flapjack

[soft raft]

Tigercats if campaign use
Focke Wolf/Skyrocket for W15 support fleet

[delicate lance]

Can i use hellcats? I dont have materials to craft them now

[soft raft]

yeah

[atomic abyss]

sure
they'll be more than sufficient for w13 at least

[delicate lance]

Tigetcat?

Okok i saw the fighter

[atomic abyss]

it's a gearlab upgrade of the hellcat iirc

[delicate lance]

I saw

I need more wyverns

[soft raft]

You only really need like at most 3 Wyverns

[delicate lance]

Oh right

Is the funky bi-plane that release 3 torps that cause flooding good to use

[soft raft]

no lol

[delicate lance]

I think i overcooked. I got 5 of those

[steady beacon]

Dw, that's not an overcook

[inland shoal]

Now if they're all +13...

[steady beacon]

Pre sure I know some people who have 3 or something +13 tbf...

[left cedar]

i got one just to

[steady beacon]

Same, but there was an actual reason tbf...

[delicate lance]

All +10

Not enough gold plates

[icy mountain]

okay then

[steady beacon]

Most people don't +13 it
Usually you would want to prioritise a long line of planes before the Wyvern

[delicate lance]

I was like

funny rainbow planes
I grind

[viscid swift]

probably gonna get a bit longer soon

[delicate lance]

Same for tenrai

Lol

[sharp socket]

are gold bidder torps better or gold g7e acoustic

[steady beacon]

Oh God not that topic
Short answer: it depends
But firstly, what sub fleet have you got?

[sharp socket]

u96, u37 and u522

wolf pack but its mildly scuffed

[steady beacon]

Alright then, just make life easier and go for double Bidder vs boss and mixed vs mob
There may come a time one day where you want to really optimise for bosses but worry about that when that day comes
In any event, you'll want to get some copies of both Bidder and G7e anyway

[sharp socket]

watdehell subs have a boss/mob setup too?

[whole crypt]

RLD reqs aside Bidders are just easier to use, G7es aren't going to consistently outperform even if you meet the reload req

it's easier to just not think about it

[steady beacon]

It's more of a uh
Staggering thing

And you only really care for it in like
W14+

[whole crypt]

just don't be like me and put G7es AND Bidders on your subs

[sharp socket]

alright uh so which do i make more of

or do i want 6 of each

[whole crypt]

the question is how many prints do you have

[steady beacon]

Ye 6 of each is fine
Have fun getting 6 Bidders, though, bc that can be slow

[cobalt rapids]

6 of both

[whole crypt]

6 bidders should be achievable in like within a year nowadays shouldn't it

[sharp socket]

a tiny bit of mats

[cobalt rapids]

more like half than that

[whole crypt]

I don't even remember how long it took back then

[steady beacon]

Idk tbh
Pre sure mine was between half and a year
But I also did SOS so hard to say how it should be now

[sharp socket]

half of these mats are reserved for other stuff when i get lucky and get the rainbow prints i need

[keen sable]

it's not like you can make 6 bidders right now so...

[whole crypt]

what are you even doing to want sub torps now, they're not high priority

G7es will need to wait till you actually have the prints, bidders will need actually enough MkVIIIs and lab materials

[keen sable]

you'll be lucky if you can even make 2 probably

and one of those two is guaranteed

[cobalt rapids]

just make sure u do ur weekly 65 raids

[sharp socket]

uhh itchy finger scrolling through gearlab

[whole crypt]

so just forget about it

[sharp socket]

i can make 3 bidders actually

[whole crypt]

yeh but you don't need them

[sharp socket]

i was also told to start looking at my subs if i want to start hitting w14

[whole crypt]

and you don't have the lab materials

[sharp socket]

wdym i dont have the lab materials

[whole crypt]

you don't need to go straight into using subs, if you have to start using subs from 14-1 you're probably not going to like 14-2 onwards

do you have enough quad mags?

[sharp socket]

i havent looked at my torps in a long time because ive not been using torp botes

[whole crypt]

you'll almost definitely be using ships that use torps in 14

[sharp socket]

but heres my torps situation

[whole crypt]

are you doing HM on 13?

[cobalt rapids]

not a single quad mag

[keen sable]

there's literally one right there

[whole crypt]

he technically has 1, kai

I'd rather you spend those torp prints on quad mags
unless you intend to play KMS box gacha

[keen sable]

you have suspect taste in torps...

[sharp socket]

someone told me T2 quadmagtorps were bad and to use the T3 gold quintorp

[whole crypt]

he did say he's not using torp boats, for which I suspect he hasn't done 12HM, which is certainly not a problem if he's doing 13H of course

[atomic abyss]

that is why you make the better ones...

[whole crypt]

which is why you make T3 quad mags

[sharp socket]

so i just make T3 gold quadmagtorps i wanna call them QMT in lab?

[keen sable]

nm that wasn't me. i did tell someone to use triple mags recently

[sharp socket]

im still leveling like 2 DDs just to fulfill torp req

[keen sable]

you don't need a lot of torps if you're willing to swap but another quad mag would probably be good

[sharp socket]

i can make some of those

[polar venture]

Should I get amagi, tosa, or Bismark? Waifu recommendations only lol this list is coming from SR BB in the shop

[cobalt rapids]

why are u asking us for waifu recommandations only

[keen sable]

#al-general pick amagi

[sharp socket]

i dunno what u mean by “waifu” but amagi IJN tech, bismarck KMS tech + cdc xp farm

[polar venture]

Amagi it is

[whole crypt]

#al-general is that way if you want waifu options

[sharp socket]

you can also use amagi for cdc farm aswell i suppose

[cobalt rapids]

u can use all for cdc farm

[whole crypt]

if you can't decide I recommend this 🎲

[left cedar]

inb4 "wut is cdc

[keen sable]

don't forget to buy red kite respite while you are at it

[whole crypt]

what is cdc?

[viscid swift]

Center for Disease Control

[sharp socket]

should i get chang chun or tai yuan for my future ddg plans

alr

[whole crypt]

I assume you have all the retrofit items

[left cedar]

climate disaster control

[atomic abyss]

cdc stands for cut dis crap

[sharp socket]

i am farming 11-1h so yes

[whole crypt]

no, the items needed for the DDGs specifically, not the retrofit prints

[sharp socket]

theyre in spec core shop right

[whole crypt]

not for Tai Yuan

[sharp socket]

im doing chang chun

[dawn hamlet]

Hi I'm thinking of xp a new ship, between batimore/avrora/kazagumo which one would you recommend?

[whole crypt]

then you're fine I guess

[sharp socket]

since i got left arrow’ed

[worldly pewter]

where u here during the cny ?

[atomic abyss]

kaza

[sharp socket]

i was told to redeem taihou

[whole crypt]

well if you had the seals I'd say Tai Yuan is better

doesn't matter though, the seal is from some random side event

[sharp socket]

hold on i have tai yuan item

[worldly pewter]

the seal was during the cny he should be having it

[sharp socket]

aw man

[keen sable]

cc is just more relevant anyway. they're not particularly meta in 6 ship fleets and cc is far better solo

[sharp socket]

oh well, ill just continue with chang chun

[whole crypt]

if you want better solo An Shan is best

[worldly pewter]

why u want to spend cores ?

[sharp socket]

chang chun more flexible?

[worldly pewter]

no

[cobalt rapids]

anything works for 1:1ing with uni, if u have ty retro item go for ty

[keen sable]

that wasn't the question

[whole crypt]

that was a lazy answer too

[sharp socket]

i was looking to get a ddg because i heard theyre really strong and also they sound cool

[whole crypt]

I don't think you'll see much difference between which you make anyway

[cobalt rapids]

-1000 spec core for a downgrade

[keen sable]

if you have ty retro item, ty is better than spending spec core on cc item...

[sharp socket]

hmm

[whole crypt]

anyway Tai Yuan is still relevant DPS for a full fleet, depending on your options and what content you're doing

[sharp socket]

i already spent 1600 guild coins on chang chun… should i change to do tai yuan

[whole crypt]

there's no simple answer which is straight out better

[keen sable]

^

[whole crypt]

guild coins are free and you should be overflowing

[keen sable]

are you really sure you have it though?

[sharp socket]

im pretty sure i got the right one

[polar venture]

Are any of the SR BB on the monthly iron blood, Sakura empire, royal navy, or eagle union?

[whole crypt]

there's some for like every faction, what do you want

[keen sable]

dw just get them both for harbin

[sharp socket]

i recently spent a ton on dockspace upgrades so im slightly broke on guild coins, in the sense that ill spend them faster than i can make them

ill probably slow down after i finish MLBing tech ships

[whole crypt]

as long as you have enough left to buy books and gold plates

[sharp socket]

i run out of food more than books

[cobalt rapids]

food doesnt matter

[whole crypt]

food isn't important anyway

[soft raft]

Shouldnt be that hard to tell (or you can litereally just look on the wiki) but:
British: Hood, Warspite, Wales
American: North Carolina, Washington, Massachusetts
French: Jean Bart
German: Bismarck, Tirpitz
Japanese: Amagi, Tosa, Nagato, Mikasa

[cobalt rapids]

just starve ur girls if needed

[whole crypt]

do you guys ever have promoted pawns spawn nothing?

[viscid swift]

yes

happened twice this month

[sharp socket]

theyre just gonna have tempura instead of regularly scheduled curry daily 24/7

[whole crypt]

the whole point is dorm still works even if you have no food

[sharp socket]

i wont run out of food, but ill run out of food that gives xp bonuses

[whole crypt]

then it's even less relevant

[sharp socket]

if i dont buy curry i can farm more

[whole crypt]

you should always farm before you spend on curry

[cobalt rapids]

exactly

[whole crypt]

curry is just there if you're in a pinch to clear up excess

like if you were lazy for a week and need to quickly dump some to claim weekly pack

[sharp socket]

but i farm until the sun sets, and then i farm some more

alright no more curry

[whole crypt]

that's par for the course I'm just busy these 2 weeks

[sharp socket]

i mean when my exams hit then ill be busy, so i might skip some days of farm so ill buy curry again

[cobalt rapids]

id rather do the 1200 oil comms than curry

[keen sable]

well that explains why you can't farm more and take 1 month for each pr

[rain vine]

does alsace barrage require her to be flag?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[sharp socket]

wdym

[whole crypt]

kicking off from maint which day of the week does first cdc2 unlock?

[sharp socket]

also thats a slight exaggeration i fluctuate from 50-3000 oil per day because im also lazy to only sortie 3x a day instead of 9-12x

even though it is more efficient because 150 morale

[cobalt rapids]

did u upgrade ur canteen, are u doing ur comms ?

[sharp socket]

i do my comms yes

i should probably sleep its 12:01am

[whole crypt]

CDC2 unlock is 72hrs after start?

[undone plover]

I believe so yeah

[keen sable]

1. oil to xp in dorm can be quite bad especially if you are new.
2. it contributes nothing besides xp and it doesn't even do that well (see point 1). no cdc, no drops, no coins, nothing but xp

[keen sable]

should be wednesday aka 6 days

contrary to popular belief it does not take a week or 7 days to finish a pr ship

[whole crypt]

I know it's 6 days I'm trying to see how much time I have to catch up for CDC1 because I won't have time till Friday is over

[stark quiver]

How do I grind cdc efficiently, I have minimal oil

[cobalt rapids]

use 3 ships that fit the cdc req + 3 ships u wanna lvl

[whole crypt]

just shove 3 ships that fit req and run ch12

[keen sable]

ahh then i won't comment on this picture

the implication is of course it has been 19 hours since i started ruppy

i need to put this on wiki...

[undone plover]

Yeah wiki needs this

[whole crypt]

I almost always 6-day my ships even if not intentionally

[stark quiver]

Do you just have a lot of oil lying around

[whole crypt]

I think 40k in mail storage...

[exotic wren]

Considering I just started stocking up on mail oil recently and am at 11k that seems low

[fresh tangle]

Was hoping for some Thursday maintenance oil. It’s real easy to burn through oil early on

Does me really nicely into Monday 😂

[whole crypt]

I've been spending it because cats, definitely not the height of my storage

[stark quiver]

I have 5k in storage

[undone plover]

Save oil for HVAR farm
Rushing CDC wont do anything

[exotic wren]

?? HVAR farm when?

[cobalt rapids]

when yk2 reruns

[whole crypt]

I only intentionally rush CDC if ship is voiced by VA I give shits about, but as it stands just grinding anyway gets me there unintentionally

[exotic wren]

That feels like a year away

[stark quiver]

you play with sound?

[undone plover]

Well unless u buy the trade pass u cant stock much oil even in a year

[whole crypt]

that's the fun part, my sound is off 90% of the time

[shell willow]

what is cdc

[undone plover]

The xp grind for shipyard ships

[cobalt rapids]

combat data collection
shipyard mission for building ships there

[shell willow]

ah

[knotty dome]

how do i get rid of blue augment modules

[cobalt rapids]

feed to other or convert up

[eager mulch]

new pfp who’s that

[worldly pewter]

ur aim is 100k in storage in 9 months
which is impossible for a f2p but this tells u to not spend them anymore

[fresh tangle]

Why would my aim be that when I can use it to progress now

[whole crypt]

why should there be an aim to how much oil to store, you just spend what you need

[worldly pewter]

they released a figher for light armor bosses
that can only be obtained through map drops

[whole crypt]

so?

[stark quiver]

I doubt you need 100k to farm it, even if u did, it’s the game telling u to stop at this point

[undone plover]

It is good to be aware of it
If u dont want it dont farm for it that is perfectly fine

[lament bay]

does the "S" in shelling for the new research BB means she has UR BB damage?

[cobalt rapids]

no, it doesnt mean anything

[tame jungle]

it means nothing

[whole crypt]

stat wheel is meaningless

[tame jungle]

don't trust the stat wheel, it literally doesn't matter

[undone plover]

I did some napkin maths a while back and it depends
It might need more than 100k it u want 5

[worldly pewter]

TBH my aim is 3
100k should be enough right ?

[whole crypt]

you don't need 5 and the plane will eventually make it to shop/lab

[undone plover]

Stat wheel is for thorin to speculate on

[cobalt rapids]

we dont know if we dont get anything better than hvar till then either

[undone plover]

Also true

[stark quiver]

Nice, I have a very large amount of 5k in storage

[cobalt rapids]

past 90 u wont get from secretary anymore, sortie ur ships

[lament bay]

even the C in torpedo means nothing?

[cobalt rapids]

yea stat hexa doesnt mean anything

[eager mulch]

Stat hexes are bad

[viscid swift]

all I will say is this for, now Nahkimov in WoWs has HE rockets

[eager mulch]

Plymouth B fp

[undone plover]

Probably but there is no hard data so unless u need the oil just save

[whole crypt]

they're just very rough ranges, but sure a C in torp generally means a shitty torp ship, but most ships in the game are shitty at torps anyway beside torp meme members

[worldly pewter]

if we are getting something it should be 1 plane from a random new event or something
this game doesn't seem to be allowing gear powercreep that fast
or am i wrong ?

[cobalt rapids]

i cannot tell you that

[worldly pewter]

there is a decent chance that i can hit 100k by the rerun not sure though

[whole crypt]

and again, you do not need 4-5 copies of rocketcat
they're nice to have if you manage it, but 2 is probably fine

and even if you don't manage 2 copies it's not the end of the world

[viscid swift]

this entire discussion may also be rendered irrelevant in about a week

[cobalt rapids]

i burn my oil to 0 and never had a "wish i had stocked on oil" moment

[worldly pewter]

doubting the first ur converging tb

[whole crypt]

point stands regardless, there's no reason to hoard a large amount of oil just to cope farming for a single piece of gear
not to mention rerun is 1 week, you're not going to like your odds compared to original run
we don't even know if rerun will have bugged rates so just take what you got and be done with it

[brazen jackal]

How do I increase from crush to love? Its just stuck at 90 affinity right now

[whole crypt]

you need to use your ships in oil-consuming stages

[shell willow]

[worldly pewter]

use them in campaign

[brazen jackal]

I have but it does nothing

[whole crypt]

it does, it's just slow

[tame jungle]

grind harder

[cobalt rapids]

it takes time, u wont notice it after 1-2 sorties

[whole crypt]

it takes around 16 fights for 1 affinity if not MVP

[sage nebula]

Vanguard rerun is next, right?

[whole crypt]

if you're asking if it's the next rerun, then yes it should be
if you're asking if the rerun is coming right next then we don't know

[sage nebula]

i was asking the first thing, ty

[grizzled sun]

Just got my first UR gacha, Shinano a good one to invest my UR bullins into or wait for another? (She’d be replacing Yorktown) or just use her has a 3* for now?

[whole crypt]

first disclaimer you shouldn't have been pulling in heavy/special

[tame jungle]

and don't use unlimitbroken ships

[grizzled sun]

Oh, I save most for events, just did it for my daily, guilty pleasure to see what I get :p

[whole crypt]

well 0LB URs are still rubbish

[eager mulch]

literally shitnano rn

[grizzled sun]

I could 4* her…but seems like consensus to just save and put her on a shelf for now then

[whole crypt]

1LB is still shit

[tame jungle]

MLB or bust

[grizzled sun]

Gotcha, only a few days to get enterprise and I can mlb her when i finish the exam

[keen sable]

if you want to speculate it means she has torps like a lot of the ijn bb's

[tame jungle]

well yeah daisen has torpedoes in wows

[lament bay]

i didnt know bbs could have torpedos

[whole crypt]

probably just going to be some torp barrage thing

[keen sable]

some even equip torps

[whole crypt]

several BBs have barrages that have torps which scale on TRP
a small handful of BCs actually have torp slots

by small handful I think there were 2...

[viscid swift]

Odin and Scharnhorst META

[whole crypt]

but that's a BC

[lament bay]

so its just a damage formula thing? they dont fire torpedos all the time?

[whole crypt]

the only BB/BCs with an actual torp slot are Odin and Scharnhorst META, none of the other ones will have a "normal" torp charge and launch
they will have a skill or barrage that shoots torps, which uses the TRP stat for calc

[lament bay]

so like they fire torpedos when they fire their barrage, but you cant change which torpedos they fire since its fixed

[verbal mulch]

It’s why main guys on battleships have such girthy barrels. They gotta be able to fit the torpedoes inside

[stark quiver]

historically accurate

[exotic wren]

that's what 11 days of WoWs do to a human(?)

[undone plover]

I actually have a Q about BC torps

Does the gear actually do anything outside of the TRP stat?
Is shima torps best for someone like odin or are the torp properties still used

[whole crypt]

they actually load and shoot the torps

[keen sable]

you have to read or ask but odin changes the pattern

[whole crypt]

I can't remember Scharnchorst but Odin shoots any torp it uses in a modified pattern

[verbal mulch]

The torps just come from the main fleet, so they travel a lot further.

[undone plover]

So since the pattern is modified which torp is best? Still quad mags?

[whole crypt]

but it's just shit anyway

this are not the torps you're looking for *handwave*

[nova halo]

ideal stat for fighting the 2nd arbiter boss in OPS?

[worldly pewter]

do u mean the harbiter ?

[keen sable]

strat?

[nova halo]

stat, that 3 stats

[steady beacon]

Oh
You mean adapts?
203/203/156

[whole crypt]

kill it with fire

[nova halo]

oh tks

[steady beacon]

It's the same for both normal and hard though

[worldly pewter]

[nova halo]

currently fighting the hard one with ~190 adapts

[inland shoal]

Eh ig quints since they're parallel anyway? But yeah they are pretty inconsequential anyway

I can tell you that Mogadorps were definitely the best for that for a rather short while

[whole crypt]

the adapts you need for arb/harb should really just be 203/203/whatever

[weak turret]

Are the ships available for merit/core data the only way to get those ships? If so worth grabbing for tech points?

[forest palm]

I just slap UR Quint on Odin due to the higher TRP stat

[cobalt rapids]

no, ull have to check wiki for other sources like wa and construction

[wispy pendant]

wiki will tell you all the different places to get those ships, some are in build, some are only available in certain places. Not sure if anyone is merit only.

[weak turret]

Ok thanks

[wispy pendant]

I think the core ships are only in core, like Independence is only in core... just check wiki, some core ships are also in WA

[undone plover]

West virginia and a couple more are WA and core shop

[nova halo]

fuck i did it, i beat the hard harbiter

[whole crypt]

the ships "moved" into shops are mostly to get them out of the perma build pools, other methods of acquisition are usually not affected

unless they were added directly to shops to begin with, then yes they tend to be shop exclusive

[zinc turret]

is there any way to stop the game stop my repeat sorty when i get new ship ?

[viscid swift]

incomplete but the first page has all the ships from the shops mapped already
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12yRYYYVKa7VlpdrhQ5QfBvFh6tiNvG5ox0YE0fm2dcI/edit?usp=sharing

[whole crypt]

didn't they add an option to auto lock the ship

[cobalt rapids]

turn on auto lock

[zinc turret]

that thing exist ?

[cobalt rapids]

its private

[whole crypt]

just last patch I think?

cheeky refusing to share his secrets

[forest palm]

even if you get a new ship it shouldn't burn it

[cobalt rapids]

cheeky teasing his secrets

[sleek spade]

What’s the UR equipment for PR7?

[viscid swift]

we don't know

[forest palm]

build a time machine, and tell us

[sleek spade]

Awwww

[viscid swift]

soonest we'll find out is tuesday

[sleek spade]

Okie

[exotic wren]

Wait is it gonna drop next week or next next?

[sleek spade]

Should I do double CVs or double BBs with Soyuz in opsi bossing?

[viscid swift]

next week

[forest palm]

right after the event end

[wispy cosmos]

mags still home, then quints>quads because they cover more area with odin's modified parallel pattern
so rainbow mags

[steady beacon]

Both are possible, depending on what you want to do/who you want to fight

[forest palm]

[whole crypt]

monty aug skill doesn't care which union gear you use as long as she has union gear right?

[wind anvil]

This is my first time ur research, is it worth spending my cubes?

Ok, ty.

[unreal bloom]

Who should i prio next to research Kearsarge, Plymouth or Brest?

Or chkalov, harbin, anchorage, flandre

[atomic abyss]

anchorage by far

[hollow gust]

Finish one season at a time , 4 then 5 then 6, set your focus to 4

[atomic abyss]

the real question should be why haven't you researched anchorage already

[unreal bloom]

Bcz i focus first on who i like and onlyn after do meta

[finite crag]

Then keep focusing on who you like

[unreal bloom]

Well got them all except these

[finite crag]

Youve got your answer

[unreal bloom]

Ok thx

[hollow gust]

Getting the ship is whatever,Getting the prints is the important part

[unreal bloom]

Who should i use for the 2 frontlines to farm anchorage. Helena and sandy probably will be there but is anyone here good to level or just rotate them all?

[unreal bloom]

Well guess it will be easier for anchorage as i have all other pr4 ships and atm i am finishing hakuryuu fate sim.

So i do already get a lot of anchorage research projects

[finite crag]

San fran i guess idk close your eyes and tap on a random ship

Achieves the same thing

[unreal bloom]

So they are all meh

Then i will rotate them based on morale i guess

[wide marsh]

What is ACV stat? (nvm, its AirControlValue)

[vale spindle]

/wiki combat

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat_Preparation:_Iron_Blood

Jul 5, 2024, 5:59 PM

[atomic abyss]

san fran is pretty strong all things considered
just that she is a jack of all trades and master of none

[strange sphinx]

hmm. Northampton is also decent

[little tree]

Should I wait till volga is level 110 before I do 13 1

Ignore mog im just leveling them to 100

[sweet delta]

Taking level 100 ships to 13-1 lethal does not seem like a great idea

[slim brook]

how do i get design plans for weapons lab?

[soft raft]

grinding Operation Siren

[slim brook]

thanks

[stone sluice]

Doing w15 one fleet counts by having another fleet for the crossfleet barrages even though I don’t use it or is it only one fleet during the sortie?

[atomic abyss]

If you are challenging yourself - you make your own rules so

[stone sluice]

[steady beacon]

Just define 1=0 to reduce all considerations to the trivial ring

[cobalt rapids]

some1 i know who did onefleet 15-4 lethal meant no 2nd fleet, subs or support fleet

[shell willow]

does this mean there are no subs in 15-1/15-2?

[cobalt rapids]

yep

subs are actually only in recon nodes from 15-3 and 15-4

[shell willow]

[obtuse knoll]

ship skills from support fleet on w15 is useless right? just making sure

[inner delta]

support fleet doesn't activate skill yes

[tiny gulch]

rate my mogador gear

[hollow gust]

It's good

+12 gun

[tiny gulch]

main gun plate heck never ends

[queen plank]

Unusual choice for auxs

[tiny gulch]

i'm using her in wichita META

[wary timber]

Should I waste 4000 fuel to try to get Yuudachi, level Z47 and let my full IB vanguard fleet earn exp for agir's pr research at the same time or should I like attempt to clear 11-1 in which I realise I'm not ready for yet

[hollow gust]

There is nothing wrong with auxes? That's quite normal

[sweet delta]

you said it yourself, it's a waste. I'll add that it's a massive waste...

[wary timber]

I still have the free weekly pack to gain back that 4k fuel

[queen plank]

Well the watsanumi notes is unusual

[sweet delta]

I don't think spending 35 gold plates for +1 FP is normal

[tiny gulch]

https://i.imgur.com/YWlRkHo.png it's pretty strong vanguard AUX against META fights

[hollow gust]

its firepower and free damage

[sweet delta]

A waste is a waste no matter if you gain back the wasted oil. Because if you didn't waste it, then you'd have the unwasted oil plus the 4000 weekly pack oil

[queen plank]

Your vanguard wont do much damage against her, they pretty much are there so the main fleet can sink her

[hollow gust]

its probaly to proc alcase better, its fine

[wary timber]

So where should I go to level a lower level ship up + use a fleet with basically some hastily built temporary augments and equipment at

[queen plank]

I use Brest, in fact now I remember what I am using ... Brest, Agir and Plymouth

[hollow gust]

[tiny gulch]

mogador doing pretty good damage

[queen plank]

But yes, new players have limited options when it comes to Iris vanguard

[hollow gust]

new player

[hollow gust]

its could just be fleet tech diffs, some people just dont do DD tech

[queen plank]

Brest isnt really a option, this meta fight is just muder on vanguard since its set so your ships lose evasion

[tiny gulch]

ah yeah could be, my DD fleet tech is almost maxed,

i still haven't been able to one shot this fight though

[hollow gust]

just use harbin/plymout helena sirius

[tiny gulch]

i lack the HVARs

[hollow gust]

well yeah , the meta boss this time around is EU's bitch, other comps suffer hard

[queen plank]

I would suggest if you have to use the Tears aux on the vanguard that often croaks the first time to extend the fight

[tiny gulch]

i have it on brest

and emergency manjuu on Guam

[queen plank]

Does Brest sink first? I know in my case is Aegir

[hollow gust]

best way is to ditch brest for helena

[queen plank]

No, Helena croaks too fast in my opinion

[viscid swift]

you'd also be better off using Agir

[hollow gust]

she is literally the best ship for consistent oneshots

just protect her and its oneshot territory

[viscid swift]

I'm sticking with this for the rest of the season probably

[stark quiver]

how much time was left when you killed it?

[queen plank]

If you are a new player, you arent going to oneshoot a META fight at max level

[viscid swift]

I don't remember tbh

this is a 3 salvo set up though

[hollow gust]

who is a new player

[sweet delta]

@hollow gust you're a new player, what do you know

[queen plank]

Your tag

[hollow gust]

im sorry ;-;

[tiny gulch]

so ditch brest for helena?

[sweet delta]

One shotting Helena meta not very relevant

[tiny gulch]

man i hate using helena

[hollow gust]

its close to impossible to oneshot the meta without helena, you need to cruit fish

[viscid swift]

unironically I find Helena more consistent because surviving to the end of showdown is even less consistent than radar scans

[queen plank]

I dont use Helena either but then again I am content if I can just do it wth a couple of fights

I hated Rodney META fight because of it stealing 10 seconds of the fight

[worldly pewter]

but 10 seconds isn't impactful in that fight i think

[silk helm]

imposter...

[hollow gust]

new player skill problems

[queen plank]

It was enough to disable my last Hakk/Shinano attack from doing damage

[hollow gust]

just use unzen comp

rice cooked

[sweet delta]

It gave you 10 extra seconds, and then took away 10 seconds. No difference from all other showdowns

[wispy pendant]

what is mogador's damage output comparable to and tankiness comparable to? Does she belong in top end fleets who have the rest of the ships, or is she kinda whatever, like Drake?

[queen plank]

Well felt bad, never noticed it took longer ... well thats over anyway so ...

[valid spoke]

to craft a wyvern do i have to craft the planes leading up to it or are they obtainable elsewhere?

[hollow gust]

haku nano users

[sweet delta]

Above plys personal damage, around Portland tankiness

[wispy pendant]

decent damage, but otherwise kinda whatever it seems

[sweet delta]

There is a plane in core shop, but just crafting it with electronics may be cheaper

you mean ply dmg is only decent nowadays

[hollow gust]

lmao drake crying

[viscid swift]

and she'll be crying even more when we see Napoli's kit

[queen plank]

We will see ...

[wispy pendant]

i feel like if you're not buffing the back line, you're meh

i want more back line buffing ships

[stark quiver]

when pr7 drops, do i go for any face researchs i see or do i pick shortest time researches and then only focus on 1 ship at a time

[inner delta]

if you want fast then do H

[sweet delta]

Depends on your goal

[queen plank]

I always go face unless it wants cubes or 8k coins and I cannot afford it

[cobalt rapids]

is this killing for u in 2 scans?

[wispy pendant]

I'm doing purple grants and memories, focus on DR faces.

[viscid swift]

I believe so

haven't been paying too much attention to my runs

[queen plank]

I mean, thats standard I think ... if face and possible always prioritize DR over the others

[stark quiver]

is it more efficient to go for one d30 at a time or all at the same time

[sweet delta]

Then what's your success rate

[viscid swift]

like 40% or so

[sweet delta]

Efficient for what end goal?

[stark quiver]

getting all ships in the series to d30

[sweet delta]

Then all at the same time of course , with focus on DRs if equal projects

[wispy pendant]

the real based take is focus on gear from the get go.

[viscid swift]

I'm a new player, don't judge

[cobalt rapids]

consider ships are more or less guaranteed by the end of the season while gear not

[left cedar]

if 🌊 say that i can belive it

[queen plank]

Tell me about, I dont even have a single Hind gun

[stark quiver]

so its mostly d and h researches if ships

[wispy pendant]

did you dev 30 the DRs and PRs already?

[undone plover]

Sushi is doing G and Q best for maximum UR gear? And just let events and G research slowly give u ship bp?

But I want to use my ships fast

[queen plank]

No, Hind herself is Dev22 or 23 ... PR6 is not completed ... PR5 and PR4 yes, also most of the other PRs are done, all the non-PR6 are also completed and either Ev30 or FS5

[viscid swift]

honestley wait and see first if the gear is actually worth jack first

[undone plover]

G over Q? Or opposite?

[stark quiver]

i mostly do shortest time grant donations and rigging analysis until i get face research for a ship, am i doing something wrong

[cobalt rapids]

opposite

[wispy pendant]

flexing 3 copies of UR research equipment is way better than beating everyone to a dev 30 DR ship by a week.

[undone plover]

And on average how soon do u finish a series this way? 6 months?

[queen plank]

I currently leveling Izumo as I farming for coins

[cobalt rapids]

about that yea

[undone plover]

[sweet delta]

7 months if you pure focus optimal gear

[wispy pendant]

you can complete boats faster with cube research

[strange sphinx]

Ok, what are the Code for research? what is G? what's R?

[undone plover]

And u get 2-3 UR gear in that time?

[queen plank]

You do know why I have this username? do you know how many Cubes did Carl took? how many Numbians I got as a result?

[inner delta]

in game code

[strange sphinx]

I mean what are those?

[tame jungle]

Do /research in bot spam

[wispy pendant]

cube research isn't the same as ship building

[queen plank]

Maybe but when it took me over 500 cubes for a SSR I am just not testing the odds if I can avoid it ... same with Enterprise and Manchester that both were over 400 cubes and they are Elites

[wispy pendant]

I’d much prefer if we referred to the names of the research “grant donation” or cognition rather than “G” and “O” tbh

[queen plank]

Then I Wish Well Baltimore after years of not getting and first 10 roll ...

[sweet delta]

not handshake

[undone plover]

The letters are more efficient
Why write more when u can write less

[wispy pendant]

that's true, I don't really recommend cube researches either.

[strange sphinx]

Watch them do funny, UR fighter

[wispy pendant]

because I always have to look up what the letter means.

[inner delta]

i mean like in the end it doesn't matter, both "grant" and "G" is in game

[worldly pewter]

another tb doubter

[inner delta]

use it whatever you see fit

[cobalt rapids]

as long as the other person understands

[wispy pendant]

Q for rigging... it just doesn't work for me... but I don't ask research questions or give answers, so I'm fine with not learning what the letters mean.

[eternal basalt]

Q is better than whatever it stands for...

[stark quiver]

are H researches the cube ones and if no cubes do i just mostly do D

[cobalt rapids]

and face-UL

[inner delta]

again like it doesn't matter what use what, use whatever you see fit. No one will have the same preference

[stark quiver]

its been a few days since ive seen a brest research, do they just go away at a certain point, or bad rng for me

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#research_project_priority you can follow this tierlist for shipfocus

[wispy pendant]

rng

[stark quiver]

[wispy pendant]

they do go away if you have them dev 30 and one of the rest of the ships isn't dev 30 yet

they come back when you've finished the rest of the ships in the season

[stark quiver]

im 26 bp away, rn im just farming event until 50k for the extra 3 bp

[wispy pendant]

have you finished the rest of the ships yet?

[stark quiver]

i have ply at d30 and thats all

is harbin pr5 cuz i have her fs5 as well

[wispy pendant]

if you finished the gold ships, then brest will be the only face left in that season, and she'll show up often

[stark quiver]

i dont have Rupprecht and chakalov unlocked

[cobalt rapids]

u only need enough bps for em to be fs5

[wispy pendant]

iirc, if you have enough prints to take them to max, those ships faces will go away also even if you haven't built them

[stark quiver]

you see....

[tiny gulch]

good gear for these two?

[stark quiver]

iirc, i havent finished a single season

[wispy pendant]

you'll still get random faces from grant donations even if you have enough to fs5

[inner delta]

i mean sure lol, those gear is pre much standard

[wispy pendant]

people like black us torps now?

[inner delta]

depend

[sweet delta]

Improved quad mag is where it's at

[tiny gulch]

i think more ppl like them than when they first came out but they're still pretty polarizing afaik

[wispy pendant]

give me moar

[tiny gulch]

i just like using them over typical quad mags cuz the difference is likely marginal either way but using 7 year old gear feels bad to me

when improved quad mag becomes farmable i will drain the oil reserves

[worldly pewter]

[inner delta]

it's pretty good if you really need for the torp to focus on 1 target like killing elites and stuff, but quad mag would obv better in standard stuff

[worldly pewter]

marginal difference does it mean large or smol ?

[tiny gulch]

negligible

[wispy pendant]

think the margins on the edges of a page when you're printing... margins are smaller than the rest of the page... therefore marginal means "small"

[tiny gulch]

how are the new ships btw? they all seem pretty whatever but the two new DDs give FP tech at 120 right?

[cobalt rapids]

all are fp except the sub

[viscid swift]

pretty underwhelming, FP tech though

[tiny gulch]

hopefully z47 can step in for mogador with this jabroni fleet and not sink it in 12-4 when mogador is done affinity farming 🥹

[soft raft]

FP tech (except for the Sub) and Iron Blood Tech Points
Otherwise pretty whatever

[eternal basalt]

Sub gives TRP so also good techwise

[tiny gulch]

i fear this fleet is going to sink when i sub mogador out

[viscid swift]

I've leveled worse than that in 12-4

you'll be fine

[inner delta]

nah it wont

[tiny gulch]

i'll still be at air superiority so i guess it should be ok

[stark quiver]

im pretty sure planes are the least of your problems

[tiny gulch]

running jobbers through 12-4 at air denial is pretty rough

[candid meteor]

on average how long would it take to complete a entire pr season with catchup, ex. pr5

[viscid swift]

with or without Fate Sims

[candid meteor]

without

[viscid swift]

3-4 months easily

[candid meteor]

would you recommend me finishing the previous seasons before going to pr7

[viscid swift]

depends on your progress on said seasons and how the PR7 line up turns out

[hollow gust]

Well u have to finish 4 and 5 for sure first,

[inland shoal]

Eh depends on who you switch in ig. Looks kinda rough imo. Though I've been running with Air Parity so my view may be biased

[inner delta]

wait for skill to be announce so can know how important they are

[wary timber]

Btw research rewards are random right... been trying to get Tenrai parts but I don't think I've ever seen Tenrai parts drop after completing a research.

[tiny gulch]

i'll be swapping in a ~95 Z47 with max red skill only

but with air superiority

[soft raft]

randomized depending on the research type
have you been doing any Q or G researches?

[candid meteor]

im almost done with pr4, just have to finish haku fs and i havent even started pr5

[stark quiver]

i already have shimanto at d30, so in pr6 is anyone else outstanding or depending on how pr7 looks, just move on to pr7

[worldly pewter]

it is somewhat a low chance to get it

[wary timber]

Q or G researches ?

[keen sable]

as random as opening EU boxes for mag torps

[viscid swift]

again, it depends on how PR7 turns out

[soft raft]

Realistically tech point fodder
And max them out anyways to make getting Kear and Hindenburg prints faster

[soft raft]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[keen sable]

i highly doubt you should finish seasons. Season maybe.

[stark quiver]

im almost done with deveoloping hinden, only have 100 of her bps and and kear is d20

[worldly pewter]

Q is 4-5% G is 1-2% / hour

[wary timber]

Yea I occasionally do Q and G ones when i have the resources to spare I keep getting Hazemeyer parts from those

[soft raft]

*Note that these are circumstantial drop rates based off of community data so take that with a good pinch of salt

[tiny gulch]

d30ing all the new ships doesn't take that long relatively speaking, if the rainbow gear is really good then things get dicey. you can d30 all the ships in a few months and have more than half a year to do whatever you want, but if the gear is really strong then you might end up wanting to stay in PR7 forever

[worldly pewter]

they got like 30k sample size i think

[inner delta]

30k is no means large

[worldly pewter]

i think for something that is above 1% it is respectable

i come from a game that has 0.1% drop rates

[inner delta]

i mean yeah, it's good enough

[tiny gulch]

i finished PR6 in like 4 months with 1 CA gun and went back to get more plyguns and only managed like 1.75 plyguns that whole time 😔

[wary timber]

Tho I do G research more than Q and C a lot more than anything else cuz of a severe lack of materials needed for others

[worldly pewter]

u have more coins than plates ?

[wary timber]

Yes

[inner delta]

C is by far the worse of the worse that you shouldn't do it

[worldly pewter]

this is a special case

[keen sable]

C is just horrid but not the worst sadly

[worldly pewter]

C and T are very comparable to each others but C can give ship bp

[keen sable]

considering using medals for grey parts if you don't play that much

[wary timber]

My plates all go to making my equipment +10 and above. Ships like my Kawakaze are stuck using lv6 gold akizuki guns still

[candid meteor]

i heard thats it best to prevent one pr ship from getting 343 bp while researching, why is that?

[viscid swift]

where did you hear that

[worldly pewter]

for someone who started in 2018 and still suffering from plates is kinda surprizing

[candid meteor]

tbh idk

[viscid swift]

sounds like terrible advice from years ago about try to min-maxing gear print farming

[sweet delta]

Fortunately for you , a +6 blue gun is better than +13 gold akizuki gun for kawakaze

[wary timber]

There's already a gold gun better than that blue gun for kawakaze now

[viscid swift]

marginally better

[wary timber]

Iirc a single barrel 113mm

[viscid swift]

if you're not rich in gear lab mats just don't bother with it

[wary timber]

Eh my Kawakaze is there till I can get my Shimakaze ready

[sweet delta]

I'd imagine someone who can't afford Q researches and +10 gear is not rich in gear lab materials

[wary timber]

Gear lab stuff cost me all my plates

[little tree]

Cheeky any good ships to get from this or just tech points at this stage

[viscid swift]

what ships were on that again, as I recall it was all just tech

[little tree]

iLLUS Toasa Amagi Siruis Chapayev Tashkenta Graf zepplin prinz Heinrich

Chapy is highest on tier list

[worldly pewter]

check ur medal shop first i think

or just hold onto it for some more time

[little tree]

i got Tripitz from medal for Tech

[worldly pewter]

sirius and illustrious 2 good ships that are in the medal shop

so BB DD for this month ?

[little tree]

DD are z46 Yukki 2 french ships

From Medal

[wary timber]

One of the stupidest things I've done that ended up being not so stupid is using gear labs to build like 3 to 5 hazemeyers. And that ridiculously strong 6 barreled Bofors AA gun

[worldly pewter]

if u want better choices ask here before crafting

[candid meteor]

im so glad that you listed the ships, i totally forgot about this and i really needed sirius :D

[little tree]

i been holding on to that for a while\

[wary timber]

Actually those Hazemeyer guns are bolstering up my AA cuz they replaced a lot of absolutely garbage purple and blue AA guns

Mainly pom-poms

[little tree]

are any of thoes ship Iron blood

im 100 tech away from FDG

[candid meteor]

prinz and graf

[soft raft]

oh invitation not medal shop

[worldly pewter]

iron blood tech doesn't require using this letter to get enough for even hinden
one of the easiest tech to get these days

[little tree]

i can spend all my Gold bullins on Triptz for 80 and i just need like 20 from other ships after that

[worldly pewter]

did u spend some time in divergent chessboard wa ?

[little tree]

I dont know what that is

[worldly pewter]

go to the war archive and search in the first page