gameplay-help

[remote yarrow]

Maybe give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[signal pollen]

How do I get more purple tokens?

[remote yarrow]

Clear zones, hidden loggers, abyssals, strongholds and whatnot

[viscid swift]

Strong holds will be your main source

[signal pollen]

Okay thanks. What’s the best way to spend the brown tokens though?

[ivory crown]

after completing w12, my primary focus rn is just to get better gear via grinding opsi and work on my shipyard ships (anchorage)? if i dont need to farm w12 rn for levels should i just use oil to crank hella opsi

[viscid swift]

the coins? basically use them to buy everything from the shops when they show up to ensure you get all the valuable stuff

[signal pollen]

Everything? Even those healing thingies?

[viscid swift]

yes

[soft raft]

Yes to thin the pool of possible items when the shop refreshes

[light trail]

what's with the permanent events? are they good for anything?

[viscid swift]

collection mainly if that's what you desire

[soft raft]

Divergent chessboard to farm IB tech points
Skybound for JdA

Outside of that, purely collection

[light trail]

i mean this

[remote yarrow]

Mostly yes, but I don't recommend burning your oil buying AP in opsi, just use it to farm coins on 12-4 or something

[jaunty vault]

you get free skins

[signal pollen]

Okay thankies

[light trail]

is that all

[soft raft]

Yes

[light trail]

damn ok.ty

[soft raft]

purely collection for those as well since it's often complete shitters that get free skins

[worldly pewter]

why u didn't finish the ch4 before the monthly reset ?

[jaunty vault]

no you also get a bunch of other resources

[signal pollen]

Ch4 of story line? I did it

[jaunty vault]

he means operation siren story

[signal pollen]

There’s a siren story?

[jaunty vault]

yeah

click on the information button in opsi

clearing story unlocks monthly reset and other stuff you dont wanna miss out on

[soft raft]

your shop also no longer refreshes its selection every 3 days

[signal pollen]

I spent the last year only playing this game by clearing commissions and daily quest, only recently got into siren cause I thought it was skippable before

[jaunty vault]

that's alright

once you clear story, you can just use strategic search and let it be

check every few minutes and do something else

[signal pollen]

Okay thank you.

[warm flax]

How much better is a +13 mk7 than a +10 mk6

[worldly pewter]

19% more coef 40 more FP

[viscid swift]

approximately 26%

[low juniper]

If I have all the available materials to craft either a triple mk7 or a Wyvern, should I do it? And if so, which one?

[soft raft]

how many of both do you have?

[low juniper]

None

[undone plover]

Should be 19% coeff better if u consider +10 mk6

[viscid swift]

if you have neither, Wyvern first

[worldly pewter]

slow i already corrected it

[undone plover]

Fast edit

[low juniper]

Who should get the Wyvern first?

[icy fog]

Enty

I'm joking btw

[low juniper]

Why Unicorn

[icy fog]

Idk how to play the game correctly

[remote yarrow]

Then why troll on gph

[plain saffron]

Joke?? In my gph?! :madge:

[icy fog]

I was about to ask for help

[remote yarrow]

Then do it instead of joking

[icy fog]

Sorry

[plain saffron]

Unicorn or indep because mob ship

[low juniper]

Oh is it for mobbing?

[remote yarrow]

Yeah Wyvern's torps are screen wide/parallel

So, good for mobbing

[plain saffron]

It's parallel so mob

[worldly pewter]

well there are some theories
since she is the carry most of the time she can wipe the screen for u easier
but if u don't want to use her and have a mob fleet that can survive without her and want to level another ship u can totally do that
ark royal or independence

[low juniper]

Oh I don't mind using her as I use her all the time, I was just curious about the reasoning and didn't know it was a mobbing plane

She has the gold F6F and Wyvern now

Double gold steam catapult and gold quad bofors

Is there another AA gun I should work on giving her or is all that fine

[remote yarrow]

Either Hazemeyer or STAAG

The latter being the better one

[low juniper]

I can make another STAAG

[icy fog]

How do i get more cog arrays?

[low juniper]

Does the gear level stay when you craft it into another

[remote yarrow]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#coggies

[remote yarrow]

No, but you get all mats refunded

[low juniper]

Oh okay

[uneven cave]

coggies

[sour osprey]

where do i craft stuff?

[remote yarrow]

Either at your depot > Craft or Gearlab

[low juniper]

Is it worth crafting a champ gun or should I only get it from proto shop

I have one already

[sleek spade]

well, if you have enough proto

[remote yarrow]

Mostly protocore

[low juniper]

Well I already bought out this and last month's supply

[uneven cave]

Is there anything in proto shop that I could be crafting loads of?

[sleek spade]

depends on what your priorities are imo. I have electronics to spare so I craft . it's expensive in lab imo so use proto cores if you can

[soft raft]

Only craft as the need arises

[remote yarrow]

Not really, just craft whatever you need at the moment or will need

[low juniper]

I should make the XSB3C for Enty if I can right?

She's just using SB2C

[sleek spade]

SB2C is fine tho

[remote yarrow]

Like the Helldiver upgrade? No, stick with it

[low juniper]

Okay

[sleek spade]

isn't that thing like, cope Tenrai?

[low juniper]

Is there anyone who actually wants the upgrade or is Helldiver just fine

[sleek spade]

well I crafted one cus I don't have enough Tenrai lol

[remote yarrow]

The Helldiver is just fine until you get Tenrais

[sleek spade]

but it sure is expensive

[viscid swift]

the Goldiver is literally just a Helldiver you can +13(which you don't wanna do) and has 20 more AVI stat

[sour osprey]

all of them are grayed out and i cant click them

[remote yarrow]

Well that means you can't craft anything cuz you don't have blueprints or materials

[sour osprey]

ohh i see

[remote yarrow]

You seem new, give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[sour osprey]

i was told i should craft boxes into higher rarities though

[remote yarrow]

Yeah you do that over at Depot > Items > Compose

[sour osprey]

i already did actually, helped me a lot

[remote yarrow]

Well feel frree to ask whatever question you got in here

[sour osprey]

ohh i missed it tysm

[remote yarrow]

It's not on the guide itself but if you plan to stay F2P please ask us before spending your gems

[sour osprey]

probably not going to f2p tbh the skins are amazing

ive bought a few dock slots so far

[remote yarrow]

Yeah that's the #1 bait for F2P players to fuck up on

They buy skins that are like 1/4 of their total guaranteed income as F2Ps

[remote yarrow]

Yeah you mainly spend them on dock space and dorm slot 3 or 4 + 2nd floor

[sour osprey]

does 2nd floor also give slots for training or whatever it’s called?

[remote yarrow]

It doubles your slots but without the passive exp part, but it does have a higher morale recovery rate (10/hr higher)

[sour osprey]

alr tyvm for the help

[light trail]

now that sd is a lot better, is it worth 125-ing her

[remote yarrow]

Yes, but probably not one of your priorities

[viscid swift]

eventually yes, she's not a high priority still for 125 though

[light trail]

it's just the resources, i have enough xp on her to get her there right away bc i just use her a lot

[remote yarrow]

You are better off 125ing like an UR BB or something

[light trail]

i've also unlocked the daily mission that gives arrays so now i have more array income

[viscid swift]

125 vs 120 for most content does not matter, but when it does it really does matter

[remote yarrow]

Also 1.3k is not alot

[viscid swift]

so if you don't really have any standout options it's best to wait until you need ships at 125 to uncap them

[hushed dawn]

Probably a lil early to ask but how good is Michita?
Like what tier would you give her?

[viscid swift]

she's a glass cannon

[remote yarrow]

Ask on the ECTL discord for tiering

[viscid swift]

I don't rate her particularly highly given her issues with living but she is CA FP tech

[remote yarrow]

But probably not high since her glass cannon gimmick may lead to her dying?

[hushed dawn]

Oof. 😔

[worldly pewter]

most games that have this mechanic ( since i came from gbf ) will also has some sort of countering to the weak point by either timed immunity or something that inceases the ehp on hp decrease

having the attack goes up on hp decrease without any defensive mechanic in most games is just total garbage imo

[soft raft]

Ehhhhhh that's not really as prevalant here as they would be in a MMORPG

[worldly pewter]

[soft raft]

Depends on how they design them but game design is a sepreate discussion not for this channel

[wind hazel]

one thing is that raising her is easy. she just doesn't sink most of the time

[soft raft]

The Unicorn hypercarry

[wind hazel]

i shoved her into opsi mob since lv1 lol

[worldly pewter]

did anyone make a graphical representation about her attack increase the more her hp decreases ?

[eager mulch]

HP: 📉, dmg: 📈

[worldly pewter]

[serene estuary]

hey so i just made an azur lane account for the first time- kinda suprised i didnt get any rewards in mail as a new player is their something i have to do to get them or codes to use? or is this game not f2p ffriendly

[eternal moth]

Game is extremely F2P friendly, it's just not front loaded

[eager mulch]

this game is very f2p friendly but doesn’t front load a lot of stuff

[remote yarrow]

No, and yes really F2P friendly if you are active

[eager mulch]

commence the new player guide posting

[worldly pewter]

play the game and enjoy the smooth progression

[eternal moth]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

It's pretty widely considered one of the most F2P-friendly major gachas on the market right now

Mostly because you get a lot of the main resources, especially cubes which are used for gacha, daily and weekly just for playing

[remote yarrow]

On the topic of F2P, if you plan on staying that way;
Dont buy these with your gems: skins, rings,packs,oil,cubes,coins,etc
Probably ask in here before since Gem income is really low for F2P and a skin is like 1/4 of your total guaranteed income

[elfin hollow]

is it safe to analyze the combat data packs? that would be waste, no?

[eternal moth]

No, analyzing is recommended

[remote yarrow]

It's the other way around, using them is a waste

Analyze all of them

[eternal moth]

Getting gear is worth more than spending a little less time leveling

[novel solstice]

Always analyze them, because getting XP to acquire a ship takes a lot less time than getting the blueprints to make a ship useful. So speeding up the xp grind just means you'll have a useless ship sitting in your dock longer.

[stark quiver]

Especially when you can get xp from just grinding

[remote yarrow]

1 week of farming exp is way better than using them and missing out on months of protocore income

[elfin hollow]

yeah, you're right

[stark quiver]

I got Cheshire from just data packs, it still pains me

[remote yarrow]

Ha idiot, same for Roon

[eager mulch]

noobs, i got chesh for money

[worldly pewter]

i discovered this c1 forbidden tech not long ago and i can say it is scary i might finish the second cdc in 1 day

[forest palm]

you can do CDC in 1 day through just 12-4....

[eternal moth]

Can confirm

[worldly pewter]

i tried doing so it didn't work for ply

[stark quiver]

Oil was an issue for me

[worldly pewter]

yeah it is technically impossible to do it in 1 day through 12-4 alone
the best i could do is 1% per run and each 3 runs were costing 950

[eternal moth]

If PR7 is coming next week they should start previews tomorrow right?

[viscid swift]

filthy casuals, I used all of my CDC1, 2 and 3 packs for XP

[forest palm]

should roll out soon

[viscid swift]

I made a lot of stupid choices early on...

[worldly pewter]

glad to learn from other's mistakes

[forest palm]

you can easily do CDC1, or CDC2 in a day

[calm rose]

followed youtube guides before i knew AL discord gph

[ember totem]

who's saying you can't do CDC 1 in a day

[forest palm]

children it seems

also I used CDP on Roon back in the day when KMS ship selection was caca

[ember totem]

just need to plan out multiple fleets so you don't get affected by the 0 morale stuff

[blissful hamlet]

should I stop doing research if I start lacking in coins? I'm farming for 3rd hinden gun btw

[eager mulch]

if youre farming for hinden gun then youre not using coins

[viscid swift]

how have you run out of coins exactly?

[blissful hamlet]

not all research is rigging analysis

[eager mulch]

so how are you running out of coins

[blissful hamlet]

I'm keep around 60k to 80k while my cap is 100k

[stark quiver]

Research

[forest palm]

if you're going for UR Prints you usually do Qs....

[ember totem]

just do a few more runs in 12-4/13-4 or something unless you don't have them unlocked

[blissful hamlet]

I'm also coining drake

[eager mulch]

if its greater than 0 then its fine

[blissful hamlet]

I'm running out of oil too

[blissful hamlet]

I haven't pulled the current event so it's not fine

[viscid swift]

honestley I'd just slow down coining drake

[ember totem]

yeah you need to slow that down given your situation

[blissful hamlet]

oh wait forgot to mention I also buy gear skin from shop

[ember totem]

[forest palm]

ya that's yike

[worldly pewter]

this looks like credit card angle

[viscid swift]

well I could tell you to not but I don't think that's an option....

[stark quiver]

I’m like 90% sure that’s why

[blissful hamlet]

so which should I stop buying gear skin, research, or coining drake?

[ember totem]

1 and 3

[blissful hamlet]

[viscid swift]

stop buying gears skins first, then slow down coining drake if the first isn't enough

[forest palm]

gear skins are one of the most egregious purchases you could make

[stark quiver]

some admin named takagi

[blissful hamlet]

I just realized I spent 21k +7200 + research coins every day

[forest palm]

brotha ewww

[ember totem]

do you have a maxed out Canteen?

[blissful hamlet]

I mean it is limited so I'm afraid I will never get it again forever lol

[ember totem]

please say you do

[blissful hamlet]

yes

[ember totem]

reruns exist so they won't be gone forever

[blissful hamlet]

yeah of course in 5 years lol

anyway I should have enough gear skin for now

[stark quiver]

Reruns are also 2 years later

[blissful hamlet]

I should have 21 gear skin from this event, it's enough right?

[viscid swift]

that's even assuming this even reruns at all

[sharp socket]

i get all my gear skins from arcade

[stark quiver]

Theres an arcade?

[soft raft]

^
We arent close to Frostfall rerun (or at least when it would be supposed to happen) for a good while so yeah we'll have to wait and see if that reruns to see if this will

[sharp socket]

akashi arcade

[blissful hamlet]

I hope they update the arcade shop

[forest palm]

Gear Skins are a feature I've ignored since its release

[stark quiver]

Seeing as I don’t even look at the game half the time, I never bought gear skin lol

[forest palm]

the Auxiliary Skins were what I originally expected out of Gear Skins, but well...ya

[ember totem]

I wish i got the force bubble

[sharp socket]

where does the force bubble come from

[forest palm]

most all Auxiliary Skins come from Cruise Pass which is different from pass to pass

[calm rose]

Is this normal? Cant seem to change formation layout. Specifically when holding onto alsace

[soft raft]

possible desync? Try force closing and relaunching the game

[forest palm]

it's a little buggy with the horse

have you tried moving around other characters?

[calm rose]

Yea it justs doesn't work for alsace. Thought it was a bug

[forest palm]

might be dsync, I can move mine around

[loud rover]

alsace's big head can't fit anywhere else

[smoky palm]

Sooo.. since PR7 is coming out soon.. does that mean once it does we will be able to do Catch-up for PR6 to get easier prints for a ship we want?

[forest palm]

not immediately, but eventually

[viscid swift]

that won't drop for a few months still

[loud rover]

or just hard focus on doing grant donations and face researches so you can get a fat protcore payday

[remote yarrow]

Which will probably slow down your progress 150 is alot of time without catchup

[loud rover]

game is a grind

[smoky palm]

ooof.. once it does would the 150 catchup prints be enough to get my Kearsarge from PR 23 to 30? Not sure how many prints it is per level and whether the prints you need go up exponentially each level..

[candid meteor]

you can check by using bp exchange, it tells you how many it needs for dev 30

[soft raft]

/devbp or approximate it off of this

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[forest palm]

that's 217 prints, so no

[sweet delta]

#trophy-room message this is a 2x plan result right?

[smoky palm]

ahhh, so 150 would almost be enough.. for dev 30.. :d

[soft raft]

Probably yeah

[remote yarrow]

It's gotta be cuz there's no way this is true #trophy-room message

Unless hax

[calm rose]

Dude says no

[candid meteor]

how many bps does it say you need until dev 30 in bp exchange?

[sweet delta]

According to the wiki, chapter 3 drops 1 spec core

[smoky palm]

ahh, 239.. didnt notice that button lol

[worldly pewter]

up until now i never saw a node that dropped 2 ships

[smoky palm]

watchu talkin about?..

[plain saffron]

2 sr drop

[plain saffron]

Wtf hacker, ban pls

[forest palm]

self reporting is always good

[smoky palm]

oh dang, some people do get lucky lol

[sweet delta]

Ruthless @remote yarrow ~~ be nicer~~

[remote yarrow]

No lying in my watch

[smoky palm]

I remember getting Bunker Hill in my first like 10 runs not even 2x while getting 13-4 to the safe level lol

[remote yarrow]

Well that's rng for you

[forest palm]

like how I got BH on my second run

[sharp socket]

it has been 135 sorties since my last choukai

[forest palm]

I have months where Choukai just doesn't leave me alone

I think the most dreaded grind is the Isuzu hunt

[undone plover]

Just do 15-1

[stark quiver]

Fox mine 3-4?

[forest palm]

eh...

I've heard worse stories out of Isuzu farming than I did Akaga

[stark quiver]

Lemme rephrase that, is 3-4 the fox mines?

Alright

Guy for sure used 2x

[forest palm]

if they actually didn't that's one funny self report

[remote yarrow]

He's defending himself but I cba to argue in trophy room

[forest palm]

is what it is

[plain saffron]

Something² solar flare flip a bit in yostar server giving them 2 ship instead of 1

[sour osprey]

I really want to just get 1 or 2 SRS, which banner would be the best one to build on? light or event?

[remote yarrow]

Normally event but these event ships don't look too great so just save

[calm rose]

1x light construction a day until a event with good ships or UR event

[sour osprey]

yeahh but so many of them look pretty

[remote yarrow]

And you don't need an SR at all to progress early on

If you wanna roll for pretty ships do one light build daily

[sour osprey]

alright ill save for now

[soft raft]

Read this if you havent already
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[sour osprey]

hopefully i get something good from light soon

[calm rose]

Hood / enterprise etc are SR

[calm rose]

Only 1x per day, you needa save yer cubes

[sour osprey]

yep ikik i get 1 back from the mission

[remote yarrow]

For now just wait for next Event or UR event

If only the Anson incident didn't happen Carl would've been on this banner and it would've been worth to roll

[sour osprey]

is there any idea of when those would come around?

[remote yarrow]

Nope

[calm rose]

stilk have no idea if they meant it as a joke or did they really wanna release that anson

[soft raft]

New URs have basically been unofficially confirmed (until otherwise) for Feb, May, Sept, and Dec

Other than that, no real clue until announced

[sour osprey]

guess ill be saving for a while. thanks for the help

[forest palm]

first DR annouced

https://twitter.com/azurlane_staff/status/1809074222079123724

[calm rose]

Al Jp twitter?

[forest palm]

Admiral Nakhimov

[calm rose]

Soviet?

[blissful hamlet]

what should I do after I have 4 tenrai, 4 plygun,3 hinden gun?

[elfin hollow]

Holy Molly

[forest palm]

more Plyguns until PR7

[remote yarrow]

A cat

[calm rose]

Coulsnt read but those turret looks similiar to smolensk hence the guess

[remote yarrow]

Well #game-news there's the other one

[blissful hamlet]

LET's GOO!!!!!

[calm rose]

Wait napoli also?

[plain saffron]

Huh are cn gonna announce another 0ne

[forest palm]

well

lol

[remote yarrow]

istg if we get 3 DRs

[forest palm]

so a CV, and a CA

[eager mulch]

rip no USS Austin

[calm rose]

Was austin also a paper ship?

[forest palm]

there's like 2 ships that used that name iirc

[viscid swift]

Ah fuck no, this is PTSD 2.0

[remote yarrow]

Explain?

[eager mulch]

super toxic in wows

[viscid swift]

Have you tried playing against a Nakimov in WoWs

[calm rose]

What, you dont like bouncing bombs?

[viscid swift]

https://youtu.be/BMSDjMBztPU?si=cUs41eO8IA1LXcm0

[eager mulch]

[soft raft]

Haven't checked WoWs but there were 2 IRl
One was a destroyer escort and the current one is a modern transport dock

[viscid swift]

Yes, fucking Called Napoli

[remote yarrow]

I just have a tier VI DD

[viscid swift]

@left cedar

[eager mulch]

which one tho

[calm rose]

i hope they make it as tanky as wows version of napoli, agir can take a rest from tanking

[forest palm]

how funny they give a Nakimov a mecha kaiju

[remote yarrow]

I'm going for Shima

[calm rose]

well it is a menace

[crimson glacier]

Hi is the new CA good? 🙂

[eager mulch]

rat shima player

[loud rover]

al gets skip bombs now?

[forest palm]

Drake bad

[forest palm]

we have a skip bomber

[blissful hamlet]

will they also reveal the equip or will it be on the patchnotes?

[calm rose]

Didnt people say chakalov is supposed to get skip bomber

[viscid swift]

tankier than Agir and has smoke

[blissful hamlet]

heavy rocket

[hard mesa]

on pacthnotes

[remote yarrow]

~~We about to get bonked for off topic real soon ~~

[viscid swift]

Chkalov does have skip bombers in WoWs

[blissful hamlet]

I hope nakhimov have slow like ark royal

[calm rose]

Yea i meant in al~

[forest palm]

the VIT-2 is supposed to be a Skip Bomber

[blissful hamlet]

soyuz, chkalov, nakhimov will be the most op cv fleet

[eager mulch]

I’m still taking musashi haku nano

[blissful hamlet]

trust serenity

[eager mulch]

I’d rather trust cheeky

so uh

Nekomav

[remote yarrow]

Am I a bad person for thinking this looks fun?

Well 🚪 🏃‍♂️

[eager mulch]

literal scum of the earth

[bright tusk]

will nakhimov exp be grinded from two factions, or will just NP only?

[blissful hamlet]

I hope the UR equip is a backline gear

[eager mulch]

we don’t know

[frank pulsar]

when is pr7 expected to drop

[viscid swift]

July 11th

[remote yarrow]

Cheeky says after this event

[viscid swift]

We know there will be a patch that day and JP said new ships would be in that patch

[remote yarrow]

I'll finally have more than 2 UR CVs

[viscid swift]

They're also starting to reveal the new PR ships so...

[frank pulsar]

theres new dr cv confirmed?

[forest palm]

The drop date was to be expected

[eager mulch]

Napoli and Nahkimov

[calm rose]

Napoli and nahkimov 🐌

[remote yarrow]

It's a cat https://twitter.com/azurlane_staff/status/1809074222079123724

[eager mulch]

Nekomav

[forest palm]

Nyakomav

[eager mulch]

Nahkimov in AL: , Nahkimov in wows:

[little tree]

another stupid cat (like ches)

[soft raft]

Are we expecting any more announcements tonight or is that gonna be tomorrow

[viscid swift]

Who knows

[calm rose]

Do they always show off the DR first?

[viscid swift]

Nah

Shimanto was the first revealed last year

[kindred dust]

shimanto in wows 🤮
shimanto in AL: ❤️

[candid meteor]

cant wait to dev 30 them in a year and a half 🥳

[little tree]

Dev 30 takes that long?? dang

[viscid swift]

4 months is easily doable for the entire season without cubing

[candid meteor]

nah its just because i havent maxed pr 4 yet

[calm rose]

Unless you spam no cost research, shouldnt take a year and half

[candid meteor]

4>5>6>7

[viscid swift]

That might change

[candid meteor]

yea it might

[little tree]

~~ (me who hasnt got a ship beyond Pr 1 ) cant wait for the thingy to change~~

[viscid swift]

Considering Nahkimlv and Napoli are the DRs

They're pretty much in direct competition with Agir and Haku in terms of roles anyway

[plain saffron]

But CA

[candid meteor]

yea im almost done with pr 4 anyway, just finihs haku fs and save for agir

[calm rose]

But napoli

[plain saffron]

Muh arching gun

[viscid swift]

Napoli in WoWs is tankier than Agir and has a smokescreen to boot

[plain saffron]

Sounds more and anchor

[eager mulch]

DR ancho

[little tree]

hopefully FDG will be Relevent still

[plain saffron]

She will always be

[blissful hamlet]

does ships performance in wows reflect their performance in AL?

[viscid swift]

How they play in WoWs definitely has some affect on their design in AL

[plain saffron]

Design yes good/bad ehh

[blissful hamlet]

is that always the case for all research ship?

[viscid swift]

It's relatively easy to predict the kits for PR ships for that reason

[plain saffron]

Well all the PR is from wows collab

[silk helm]

do we know what the next event is yet?

[eager mulch]

I learned about shimanto AA from Al before I did in wows

[viscid swift]

Same

[blissful hamlet]

I mean the in game performance

[eager mulch]

then my Malta squadron got wiped by a bot shimanto

[plain saffron]

Like good bad or the kit?

[blissful hamlet]

theyr general performance

[plain saffron]

Good/bad 🔮

[blissful hamlet]

like for example cheeky said napoly gonna be tankier than agir and have smoke

[calm rose]

Educated guess for al performance

[plain saffron]

Good/bad 🔮

[blissful hamlet]

speculation

[eager mulch]

example we knew ancho had smokes in wows but I don’t think her tankiness is properly reflected

[viscid swift]

Like you can quite me on this Napoli will be a stupidly tanky CA with a smoke screen and strong secondaries

Calling it right now

[wind hazel]

[plain saffron]

I've screenshoted it and made multiple copies in 5 different cloud

[blissful hamlet]

are you real or did you pull that out of your ass

[remote yarrow]

📣 Mods bonk the coper

[little tree]

[viscid swift]

Basing that on how she is in WoWs

[plain saffron]

Prediction/speculation

[eager mulch]

I think Nahkimov is going to be a damage focused carrier

[blissful hamlet]

I'l going to pull something myself if that's the case

[plain saffron]

Educated guess is not the same as pullling it out your ass

But as always, until it's out we can't say 100%

[blissful hamlet]

gameplay speculation

[viscid swift]

Like I wrote up predictions for 5 and 6 on what the kits of these ships would be and I was right in the ballpark for everything

[eager mulch]

pr7 has made me reinstall

[plain saffron]

Now predict next sara skin

[blissful hamlet]

kid named huge coincidence

is cheeky the only person in gph that's allowed to make prediction

[viscid swift]

All I can say is try playing WoWs and you'll start to see the connections and similarities

[polar venture]

What are you supposed to do on the supply line disruption? I keep dying

[viscid swift]

Get better subs and manage them better

Also read the conditions on the wiki for S clears

[plain saffron]

No

[remote yarrow]

Or use a frigate if you got one

[remote yarrow]

Does having a Fubuki work?

[calm rose]

time to grind coal for napoli to understand

[blissful hamlet]

where can I get a prediction license

[viscid swift]

Smh not even a T10

[remote yarrow]

I'm sorry

[eager mulch]

shima rat player

[little tree]

is it possible i start farming now to get all copies of Witchita meta for MLB?

[plain saffron]

Convince people and provide base/proof

[eager mulch]

wows Nahkimov has planes, therefore I think al Nahkimov will have planes

[remote yarrow]

That's a pretty good deduction

[eternal moth]

Imagine that, the CV will have planes

[strong tartan]

Okay but do you see planes in her art

[blissful hamlet]

who's ass can I consider a good source of prediction?

[remote yarrow]

Cheeky I guess

[plain saffron]

My ass

Just trust me bro™️

[viscid swift]

All I can say is this combines my 2 main VG interests so this is my bread and butter so to speak.

[eternal moth]

Important gameplay question: Italy finally got a DR, will the complaining finally stop?

[wind hazel]

no

[soft raft]

The copium never dies

[eager mulch]

cheeky aren’t you a BB main

[rapid grail]

chat how does one think napoli and nakhimov's kit is going to be

[soft raft]

No fucking clue

[eager mulch]

napoli tanky, secondary damage, smokes; nahkimov just raw fucking damage

[sharp socket]

why AL so closely related to wows

[eager mulch]

bote game

[candid meteor]

isnt nahkimov that cv that unloads all of her planes at once

[little tree]

boat

[eternal moth]

Nahk more likely to be anti-light, anti-heavy, or both?

[eager mulch]

anti everything

at least in wows

[viscid swift]

PR is a collaboration with WoWs and the devs do play WoWs

[sharp socket]

so they have 6 collabs with wows so far

[viscid swift]

Kinda depends on what new planes we get as well

[calm rose]

including anti fun, if its aiming for you

[eternal moth]

What's she known for in WoWS?

[eager mulch]

HE rocket fighters, HE (skip) bombers and torp bombers huh

[eager mulch]

killing shit

[soft raft]

From what I can tell, the carrier equivalent of "Fuck you in particular"

[viscid swift]

https://youtu.be/BMSDjMBztPU?si=xGx6PAXUCK_OysUN

[eager mulch]

the Russian CV line gimmick is that their attack squadrons go all at once so she has high alpha strike damage which also indirectly means she does less spotting/support for the team

[eternal moth]

Oh, fun. So we might be seeing the death of IJN supremacy finally. I'm excited for the eventual datamine then

[stark quiver]

ever since i quit wowsb, my mental health has become better

[calm rose]

Did you casually forget EU with their kear/york2

[eternal moth]

For anti-heavy I'm pretty sure Shinano/Haku still do more damage

[left cedar]

nice, Pizzaland

for context, Napoli its literally Deutschland but made with Italy tech

[calm rose]

Yea, but they lose in light dont they

[eternal moth]

I really hope she's better than Deutschland

[left cedar]

she is a DR, so, yeah ... ur hope its pretty much garanteed

[eager mulch]

Drake

[left cedar]

but i kinda doubt she will be somewho usefull, its CA ... and Italian one ... so i have quite huge doubt about her being usefull

[viscid swift]

New planes may or may not change things

Because her TBs are the same as Chkalovs

[eager mulch]

HE rockets and skip bombers

[left cedar]

Drake still kilometrs better than Desuland in everything ... so ...

[eternal moth]

Oh, Napoli's a TX in WoWS? Is that the first or second we've gotten?

[eager mulch]

Hindenburg

[calm rose]

Ply, haku, hinden is TX too also shinano

[viscid swift]

4th or 5th

Hakuryu, Plymouth and Hindenburg are also T10s

[eager mulch]

wake me up when USS Austin comes

[left cedar]

cope time, where my H-39 CV UR KMS ?

if its too much, where Scheer !? the last Desuland Sisters, i need her

[viscid swift]

You will have a Russian CV and you will be happy

[eternal moth]

If I have to wait for Midway, you have to wait for Scheer

[fresh tangle]

So I’m being more conservative with my 125s ships and this feels obvious but should I 125 Alsace?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[eager mulch]

I want my nevsky UU

[viscid swift]

Speaking of which Nahkimov is a Soyuz conversion

[eager mulch]

wait cheeky does nahkimov share the same skip bombers as chkalov too?

[viscid swift]

I checked and no

[sweet delta]

is this the autosearch pathing priority order?

[unreal bloom]

Bruh imagine we have to use zara and pola for farming pr7 exp

[eager mulch]

So they have the same torp bombers but different skip bombers?

[crimson glacier]

whats wrong with zara and pola

[unreal bloom]

Aren't they really bad?

[left cedar]

better than Tren ...

[crimson glacier]

there is no bad ships for exp grind lol

[mystic glen]

Is it worth investing in Iron Blood CVs?

[crimson glacier]

anything can clear w12

[inner delta]

no and yes

[viscid swift]

Same upgraded TBs

[soft raft]

For mainline use? Only AvP

[eternal moth]

They aren't bad, they're just not good

[crimson glacier]

and isnt pola basically just better version of portland anyway

[unreal bloom]

Emyia Shirou be like

[viscid swift]

Zara is FP text and Pola is CA hit

[eternal moth]

And by not good, I mean they're not T1+. It shouldn't be hard to clear 12-4 with them, I've done it with far worse

[remote yarrow]

Holy I almost don't have Italian Vanguards

[fresh tangle]

I cleared 12-1 with a lot of guidance but ultimately used Bismark/Thuringen/Turp 😂 level 90 and good vanguard

[left cedar]

both are gud to lvl for .... eeeeeeeeeeh .... Hindy and that is it

[remote yarrow]

Pompeo,Vicenzo,Zara and Trieste

[unreal bloom]

The sad part is i dont have other italian vanguards. So not even 3 ships

[viscid swift]

People really overestimate how hard W12 is on safe

[crimson glacier]

clearing w12 is a lot different than farming w12

[unreal bloom]

I hope we can use a different faction too

[left cedar]

this still shows how patethic can be 12-1

[eternal moth]

There are enough permanent Italian ships at this point that I doubt it, but we'll see

[remote yarrow]

I can predict some ppl are gonna complain that they don't have 3 Italian vanguards

[mystic glen]

Rip. I've dumped mats into Graf and Strasser. Guess I'll stop q.q

[eternal moth]

This should be all of them I think

[viscid swift]

Pretty much

[eager mulch]

“I thought PR7 was the best because it was the newest”

[viscid swift]

Oh wait no you don't have Attilio smh

[remote yarrow]

That too

[left cedar]

ooooh w8, flex time for Italians?

[remote yarrow]

[plain saffron]

Tbh i don't remember

[eternal moth]

Oh right, that's one of the few I didn't get. And I tried REALLY hard

[eager mulch]

not while is here

[viscid swift]

3 of them give good tech at least

[remote yarrow]

Atleast I got enough

[vale spindle]

from my limited experience with no hard evidence to back it yes

[viscid swift]

And remember 115 to 120 is 875k XP each

[remote yarrow]

Which ones?

[viscid swift]

Not the elite DD

[left cedar]

i have the opposite problem, pretty much i have all italians lvled ... sooo ...

[remote yarrow]

Welp

Time to save bulins

[eternal moth]

Actually, it's about the same number as Dragon Empery, so maybe we will have a second faction

[crimson glacier]

yeah i have practically all of them at 120

[eager mulch]

nahkimov art has smolensk guns, cheeky it’s only a matter of time before smolensk

[inner delta]

[eternal moth]

Nahkimov I fully expect to have a second faction available, since there are so few NP main fleet ships

[mystic glen]

The Italians look kinda mid tbh. But new ship gorls are nice.

[stone sluice]

What are the new ships?

[eager mulch]

Napoli and Nahkimov

[left cedar]

its to combine with her utility, since she is a CA and gun focused ... them we can already pretty much knows she will be a side grade to hindy ... or they gona force her down to a tanker ... wut it will be funny, since she is a Desuland but with Pasta tech

[unreal bloom]

Wait where did you see nahkimov? Or is it datamine

[eternal moth]

#game-news has Napoli, the other has only been announced on JP

[remote yarrow]

JP Twitter

[calm rose]

Did cn annouce anything?

[crimson glacier]

even EN announced

[inner delta]

it doesnt always reflect how they are in other game so no speculation its useless

[unreal bloom]

Is there any link or photo of nahkimov?

[eternal moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AzureLane/comments/1dvp0au/pr7_admiral_nakhimov_announced_northern_parliament/

[unreal bloom]

Thx

She kinda looks nothing like a np ship

[stone sluice]

Ships who reached the 3M points cap can’t contribute to the experience for DR/PR construction, right?

[eternal moth]

They can

[crimson glacier]

they contribute just normally

[stone sluice]

[eager mulch]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

• Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
• Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
• Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.

[inner delta]

@cobalt rapids @whole crypt rice said the equipment is tiered on how they perform generally on normal campaign and why ap is lower is because how they set it up and it has a description why its lower smth smth like that

like all the ap except 457 is lower there

[sharp socket]

should i buy tri152 mk25 from protocore shop

[inner delta]

just use 155

[sharp socket]

also why the 155 higher than 155 kai

[forest palm]

Who is this for?

[sharp socket]

accessibility isnt the issue here because 152 mk25 is pricey

[sharp socket]

vanny

its the same as other UR BBs in there like soyuz/alsace

[forest palm]

Oh...Aux gun is a stat stick after a point, but 155 Kai is generally what I'd use, the mk25 is worse, and more of a stat stick

Mk25 exist for boomers

you really should look at the descriptions though

[vale lotus]

does ply need both van and main fleet xp or just van (I forgot and can't check lol)

[stark quiver]

vanguard

[sharp socket]

another question, subs use snorkel + hull or snorkel + oxytorp

[eternal moth]

AFAIK the only ships that need both are CBs

[stark quiver]

hull + snorkel

[forest palm]

generally Snorkel + Hull, some can drop Snorkel for Oxy

[vale lotus]

thx

[flint arrow]

how to get this shit

[forest palm]

you can't, it's limited for now

[flint arrow]

[eternal moth]

You can get the ones for An Shan or Chang Chun though

[remote yarrow]

Should've asked before starting her retro

[icy mountain]

should i get the IB sub in the exercise shop?

[flint arrow]

whatever rly

i have tons of these materials dont mind

[wet prairie]

Pr7 likely next week?

[eternal moth]

Which one?

[forest palm]

June 11th

[wet prairie]

Will we expect anything outside of pr7? Any FS abir cope or only pr7? And do we know all ships/gear or wait till launch

[eternal moth]

You know enough by now to check #game-news

[forest palm]

won't see PR6 FS for a month more than likely

we only have the DRs announced so far

[icy mountain]

the one with u- something

[eternal moth]

That's literally all of them

[icy mountain]

uhh

the one with red outlines in her hair

[forest palm]

the only one in the Merit shop is 37

[icy mountain]

ye dat one

[wet prairie]

Was wondering if JP got announced earlier

[hallow iron]

Does dr4 become coinable after Pr7 is out

[forest palm]

nope

[wet prairie]

Iirc coinable is a seperate update

[forest palm]

we have Nakhimov(CV), and Napoli (CA) both DR, just gotta chill, and wait for more

[forest palm]

what other subs do you have

[icy mountain]

the purple kms subs

[inland shoal]

Technically yes, I mean they won't be coinable before pr7

[icy mountain]

i dont have any subs invested

Other than the subs i use that r at minimum mlb'd

[forest palm]

and where are you content wise?

[icy mountain]

12-4

will do my w13 attempt once i have my fdg at dev30

for now im just farming 12-4 and doing opsi stuffs

[forest palm]

well 37 is not a bad pick up, but your overall subs seem lacking

[icy mountain]

ye, i dont have the subs that r in gacha sadly

[zinc turret]

should i do catch up as much as i can ? i just started play this game for less than 2 month and i done fdg catch up

[plain saffron]

Do all the DR

Save PR for protocore once you dev30 a ship from the season

Except pr4 for anchorage i think

[cobalt rapids]

u can wait on azuma and drake catchup and turn to proto aswell they are not important
but use catchup on ancho asap

[zinc turret]

okaay thankyou

[strange sphinx]

Alright so C4 abyssal zone only need 80 ap then C5 needs 100, so what's C6?

[plain saffron]

100

[mellow remnant]

Is this better on Sashi?

[strange sphinx]

[blissful hamlet]

better put in on actual DD

[strange sphinx]

I rather give her CA gun

[mellow remnant]

[inland shoal]

Technically yes, cuz more FP, but a huge waste

[strange sphinx]

Oh well, I gave the morg gun to Sandy

[inland shoal]

And if you have actual intercepting to do it depends

Also +11ing that gun

[strange sphinx]

+11 Belfast gun

wait did you watch some old guid

[calm rose]

Atleast you get the gold plate back someday

[strange sphinx]

yeah... it is waste to use it on gearlab ver?

[inland shoal]

155kai past +10 is still a waste yes

[lament hazel]

META Wise: Heinrich, Adalbert, Kronhstadt, Musashi, Owari, Guam

can anyone make the arrangement from the best to worst?

[cobalt rapids]

as in investment priority? ( they are mixed tho )

[inland shoal]

Sth like Sushi Guam Kron<>Owari Heinrich=Adal ig (Purely in "strength")
Not that I see how this is useful

[blissful hamlet]

musashi > guam >= kronk > the rest

[lament hazel]

no, as in their META Perfomance

[lament hazel]

noted

[lament hazel]

noted

[finite crag]

has there been any more news on pr7 yet

[hollow gust]

Just the DRs

[finite crag]

who are they

[cobalt rapids]

napoli and nakhimov

[strange sphinx]

NP

[finite crag]

more importantly are there images

[strange sphinx]

where's my USS UR

[sweet delta]

#al-general might have them

[remote yarrow]

#game-news for Napoli and JP Twitter/X for Nakhimov

[cobalt rapids]

napoli is in #game-news
nahki on jp tw
https://twitter.com/azurlane_staff/status/1809074222079123724

[finite crag]

cv and ca?

[cobalt rapids]

ye

[finite crag]

cool thanks

[uneven badger]

who should i use my bulin

[cobalt rapids]

alsace

[zinc turret]

wait till u have 4 bulin

[remote yarrow]

Also save the next 2 for her

[uneven badger]

is alsace that strong?

[remote yarrow]

Partially limit breaking is a big nono

[cobalt rapids]

she doesnt have competition among ur options anyway

[inner delta]

his uhv is higher kinda a waste to just let it be

[strange sphinx]

Do all gacha UR BB habe unli cross fleet?

[remote yarrow]

I feel like delaying UvH for Alsace is more value

[inner delta]

i know in the end alsace is just better

but already put in bulin in uvh

[crimson glacier]

its just 1

[cobalt rapids]

maybe it was a dupe

[remote yarrow]

Yeah that's the problem

[inner delta]

aight then

[crimson glacier]

id much rather go for alsace

[strange sphinx]

sigh they Aug with Sandy right, Warspite Aug when

[cobalt rapids]

when devs feel like it

[strange sphinx]

[uneven badger]

alright then

it's alsace

[kindred dust]

Somehow doubt that will make her any better

How is uvh v alsace?

[cobalt rapids]

alsace is stronger in most content

[kindred dust]

So uvh is completely powercrept now?

[cobalt rapids]

no she still has her gimmick which might be favoured depending on fight

[shell willow]

whats the problem with warpsite anyways?

[kindred dust]

W15 when not out of ammo?

[cobalt rapids]

no, her half rld

[strange sphinx]

Are we in trial room, why it's sounds like it is a court case

[hollow gust]

New ships are more versatile and do more damage then her

[kindred dust]

Im guessing uvh edges out in long battles (bosses)? Idk how alsace does in long battles, just thats shes super good for short ones

[remote yarrow]

Her retro is too expensive for a mid BB that's worse than quite a few of SRs, basically powercrept

[sinful escarp]

power crept to oblivion, + her skill aim for the furthest ship, which most of the time is a suicide boat

[shell willow]

[cobalt rapids]

uvh edges in battles that favour her half rld like kirov meta ( maybe )

[kindred dust]

Thats just 1 niche use case

[cobalt rapids]

why i said alsace is stronger for most content

[kindred dust]

Yeah

Ill take it as 99% of content

[cobalt rapids]

sure

[kindred dust]

How much does she lag behind tho

[cobalt rapids]

depends

[kindred dust]

Am i missing anything major by just sticking with uvh, i got her in my opsi mob fleet

[cobalt rapids]

short vs long battles, campaign vs other content with their own gimmicks on top

ure missing alsaces amazing crossfleet but uvh is also good so put em both somewhere

[kindred dust]

Crossfleet?

[cobalt rapids]

/crossfleet

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Cross-fleet_Effects.jpeg

[smoky palm]

sooo bois.. Tenrai?.. just got enough to make one of the 3

[eternal basalt]

Wait a week and see if they drop the next, otherwise Tenrai

[cobalt rapids]

u want 2 not 3
so just craft ur one and get the 2nd from protocore
if u got ur 3x champy guns alr

[smoky palm]

the next?.. what would be next?..

[remote yarrow]

I think he means 1 of the 3 UR gears

[smoky palm]

why do I need champy guns tho?..

[eternal basalt]

July 11 for PR7, would be the PR6 gun then (and who knows what other changes_

[remote yarrow]

Cuz it's the best BB gun against Heavy and Med

[cobalt rapids]

coz they are what ull want be using against med/heavy bossing

[kindred dust]

Where to best put alsace, given fleet 1 is mob

[remote yarrow]

And you want 3 for a BB fleet for opsi

[cobalt rapids]

instead of fdg

[kindred dust]

Dont use fdg at all in any fleet?

[cobalt rapids]

yea i en

yea u can drop her

[kindred dust]

Its so over for mom

[sweet delta]

Consider if you need to optimize specifically for temperance

[cobalt rapids]

or dont it wont rly make a diff with ur fleets

[kindred dust]

Do u have any suggestions to improve my fleets

[cobalt rapids]

for temperance u can swap musashi out of bb fleet for alsace
and put musashi in mob fleet
and slot aurora somewhere for her aswell
and sirius is very good this and next month and good over 2 months so use her aswell if u want
replace tico with kear
but depends if u need these optimizations or not

[smoky palm]

I mean I feel like im fine without them tho.. Like I have these already..

and I can craft stuff in the gear lab if I really wanted to too

[cobalt rapids]

u have 2 triple good ap guns, so get 1 champy

[smoky palm]

would rather have UR gear over champagne guns

[finite crag]

dunning kruger effect

[kindred dust]

I didnt raise aurora, why is sirius good this month?
Sadly no kear

[cobalt rapids]

coz her hitrate buff works on top

[smoky palm]

which 2?..

[smoky palm]

and should I wait a week like Hassat said still? just to see..

[cobalt rapids]

idk what would change in a week

[kindred dust]

Ill keep the alsace in bb fleet in mind, raising her rn

My friend who works in a french company kept shilling the french boat skins to me zzzzzzzzz

What gun is good for alsace?

[zealous yoke]

What’s a decent fleet i can make?

[cobalt rapids]

same as any other bb

[remote yarrow]

And you can scrap these tbh

[smoky palm]

I mean I can craft another triple 380mm so Is there really a need for a champagne gun? since that put me at 3..

[remote yarrow]

Maybe he was hoping for something to be added to protocore shop?

[kindred dust]

I assune champy gun would work fine?

[cobalt rapids]

not for this month harby

use mk6/7
else yes champy/soyuz guns are fine

[kindred dust]

Icic thx

[cobalt rapids]

like i said previously use
nelson unicorn li - portland helena laffey
and look for a li replacement if possible like ranger

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm what are the converging TB in gearlab?

[remote yarrow]

There's Ryuusei and Ju87

[cobalt rapids]

tenzan kai, junkers and ryuusei
craft tenzan kai for pov
craft junkers as highest prio for electronics and plane plans
craft ryuu if ure done with junkers and u still have less than 3 ryuuseis

[kindred dust]

Pov?

[cobalt rapids]

mb, poverty

[smoky palm]

whats so bad about them? are they like complete trash or somethin?..

[crisp estuary]

The left one is useful on like two ships that has better options. Gascogne muse and Massachusetts super AP mode

[remote yarrow]

Yep, left is awful and right one's only use is for KGV who's a bad ship herself

[strange sphinx]

I have like 4 Ryusei rn

also, what is Junkers, Am I dumb or it is a nickname

[cobalt rapids]

yea its nick for ju87 - d4

[smoky palm]

well since I have these 3 now is it fine for me to pass on champagne guns?..

[frank pulsar]

imho get at least one

[strange sphinx]

also the ryusei we talkingt about is the Aichi B7A ryusei right?

[smoky palm]

and should I just grab a tenrai now.. or wait a week on the off chance something gets added with PR7..

[remote yarrow]

Aren't champy guns better than the one on the right? Although those are decent iirc

[frank pulsar]

sidegrade, slightly more dmg but slightly slower or smth like that

[calm rose]

Gun in the right is Slightly faster than champy

[cobalt rapids]

would rather have champy unless ure doing some tight syncs or smth

[strange sphinx]

Man looks like I crafted too much flapjack

[smoky palm]

I just figured a new UR gear I dont have would be better than a sidegrade to gear I already have..

[cobalt rapids]

u can grab tenrai ig

[strange sphinx]

It is not a waste that I crafted 3 Flapjack

[smoky palm]

I mean could be me.. I crafted 2 and im not even using them yet

[strange sphinx]

So why Junkers is more consistent rather than ryusei? or it is other way around?

[calm rose]

Why not

[strange sphinx]

Hedgehog not leveled

[cobalt rapids]

they are sidegrades to each other

[smoky palm]

would you say to wait a week on the small off chance cuz of PR7 or grab it now?

[finite crag]

why would pr7 have anything to do with you getting a tenrai

[cobalt rapids]

like i said i dont know how pr7 release would change protocore prios

[remote yarrow]

Just ignore what hassat said

That probably won't happen

[smoky palm]

[calm rose]

Even if hinden gun gets added to proto, tenrai would still be my pick, backline weapon > frontline

[remote yarrow]

Junkers has a better pattern for a slightly lower dmg

[strange sphinx]

Ic

[remote yarrow]

But they are kinda similar

[strange sphinx]

hmmm so Implacable uses those

[smoky palm]

Part of me wants to just craft 3 G7e sub torps and slap 1 on each of my subs to pair with each of their Bidders..

but part of me wants to just hold out till I can craft 3 more bidders and not waste mats

[strange sphinx]

I mean Ryusei and Junkers

[cobalt rapids]

if u use ur subs then craft

[calm rose]

You mean junkers? The 3 converging torps are similiar, you choose which one to use for timing.

[cobalt rapids]

g7e mats are usually not a bottleneck

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm question, what's the difference between Converging TB from Parallel TB?

[smoky palm]

ik.. just would have to see 3 of em sitting in my storage once they're replaced lol

[calm rose]

The pattern, converging goes to a single point and is aimed while parallel goes in a column and is not aimed

[tame jungle]

Pattern. Converging torps are aimed at a target at the moment of dropping

[strange sphinx]

so Parallel are good for Mobbing?

[calm rose]

Basically converging is for bosses, parallel is for mobs

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm I only Have VK-107 as parallel TB for now

[calm rose]

Thats good, i think the only upgrade to that is a wyvern

[strange sphinx]

hmmm idk, Should I bought Blackburn fire brand in Core data to upgrade in Firecrest for Wyvern or it is kind of waste?

oh sorry it is black burn

[calm rose]

Im sorry i actually do not know that, i have alot of cores so i just lazy and use blackburn. You should wait for someone that knows

[remote yarrow]

You can buy blackburn to save some mats iirc

Yeah you save 21 electronics if you buy it

[strange sphinx]

well I already bought Independence so might save for it

[tame jungle]

If you have independence and enough shells it’s fine to go for that

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm 5 ap shell

[frank pulsar]

go for indep then

[inland shoal]

Do ppl already have Michita LB1,

[crimson glacier]

i think so

[calm rose]

its 2 alr

we got 2 dupes already~

[inland shoal]

I'm too busy for OpSi lately
Anyway could you put her into OpSi and tell me or show me what her AoA looks like?

[calm rose]

aoa1?

[inland shoal]

Yes
In OpSi

[strange sphinx]

already have and retrofitted

[inland shoal]

Cuz if I understand the code correctly it won't fire in OpSi

And should also show the banner "Flickering Light - Béarn"

Well and in normal maps I think the AoA still damages her even when below 50% hp, but that's a bit hard to see since there doesn't seem to be a dmg popup

[remote yarrow]

That doesn't sound like it works as intended

[calm rose]

huh interesting, im not seeing an AOA

[cobalt rapids]

so thorin understood the code correctly

[inland shoal]

But you see the Flickering Light skill banner popup?

[calm rose]

nope

[shell willow]

what are these?

[inland shoal]

Cat skills

[jaunty vault]

skills

[calm rose]

your meowficcer skills oh wait its mine

[remote yarrow]

Event Meowfficers

[shell willow]

oh so no longer available

[remote yarrow]

Tempesta event limited

They gave us Drake,Kidd and Bellamy

[shell willow]

i missed a lot

[crimson glacier]

out of everything you can miss, cats are probably one of the most meaningless things

[inner delta]

yeah

[zinc turret]

Why she didnt shoot like at the meta showdown

[calm rose]

the lasors are in her skill, but no chains

[unreal bloom]

How do i make sure my vanguard gets mvp for getting pr exp? Do i remove the planes/guns of the main fleet ships? Or should i not worry about the mvp bonus?

[inland shoal]

Both

[calm rose]

dont worry bout mvp control

[inland shoal]

You shouldn't worry, but what you described would be the way to do it

[unreal bloom]

Thx

[inland shoal]

Chains would've been very cool

[iron ridge]

What are those new Meowofficers?

[crisp estuary]

From an event

[shell willow]

here

[crisp estuary]

Meowficcers for the wooden ships

[iron ridge]

👍

[inland shoal]

I don't rly understand why you would reply to a question that has answers with the exact same question

[crisp estuary]

People are looking at discord in their phones and sometimes miss a line or two

Its normal

[sharp socket]

are fleet comps for w14 very limited

[inner delta]

no

you can use a lot of ship

[crimson glacier]

its fairly limited

[sharp socket]

can portland do front tank

[crimson glacier]

portland is weak

[sharp socket]

ehp chart seems to rank eugen higher than portland

[inner delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245451176753758290/1246733465383079967/image.png?ex=6688f805&is=6687a685&hm=0ebf7a824bb09bb6bddcb7f1b3c0cbfd577abacc1aad497fb8fd1e287ba93883& something like this can be the mob template

can be subbed

[crimson glacier]

4 rainbows

[inner delta]

i mean no need shinano nor breast

ply is the one that a bit hard to replace

smth like replace brest with harbin/sandy is viable

shinano is not needed here

going to aquila/volga is fine

[sharp socket]

is this for me or other person, i didnt scroll up

[inner delta]

who else is asking about w14

[sharp socket]

oh jesus so many rainbow

[inner delta]

.

the gear doesn't need to be all these rainbow

[sharp socket]

i was suggested this by cheeky that im currently working towards

[inner delta]

yea like i said earlier

can be replaced

it's just a template

[remote yarrow]

Yeah W14 is kinda flexible, better gear and ships just makes your life easier, this is what I used

[sharp socket]

do people really do w14 that late when they have all this stuff

[inner delta]

i mean older player literally have nothing to do until it release

[remote yarrow]

14-1 and 2 are easier than 3 and 4 btw

[sharp socket]

or is it because yall do it on release and have been playing for really long

[inner delta]

playing rly long for me

[remote yarrow]

I just slacked off too much

[sharp socket]

alright then, but its doable with much less right

[calm rose]

some people just dont advance in the campaign

[inner delta]

yes

[remote yarrow]

Could've beaten it like 3 or 4 months ago but I didn't

[inland shoal]

Hmm what gun did you use?

[sharp socket]

thats great, i was worried i needed like 2 years of progress to do w14

[remote yarrow]

So I beat it on Emden rerun since I already had all the event ships

[calm rose]

saint louis's

[inland shoal]

Ok I see she's already LB2 so 2 mgm

[sharp socket]

should i stick anchorage with triple 550mm torp or use double 550mm torp

[remote yarrow]

Both work

I think blue/twin is faster by like a second?

[frank pulsar]

personally i use blue twin since i prio survivability over dmg, but there shouldnt be big difference iirc

[sharp socket]

alr then

[inland shoal]

Would you mind putting her into another OpSi fight together with less ships that activate skills at the start of the battle? Just to see whether the Bearn thingy pops up at the start of battle

[calm rose]

sure, no problem

[frank pulsar]

i have the unpopular opinion that tanks should just tank and their dmg is a bonus

[plain saffron]

:madge:

[inner delta]

i mean for anchor the torp dmg literally doesn't matter

[inner delta]

but that's a wrong way of thinking tbh why tank and dmg is a bonus when you can just do both

[sharp socket]

i also wanna know when i use twin 113mm AA, twin 90mm AA, accelerator AA or hazemeyer AA

[frank pulsar]

twin 113 goes on highest aa vanguards, twin 90 on the rest of the vanguards and accelerator for shit aa vanguards
hazemayer and staag are usually used by backline but some vanguard ships use them as well

[sharp socket]

whats a high aa

[frank pulsar]

whoever has best aa capability in your vanguard

[sharp socket]

so only highest AA in van takes twin 113?

[sharp socket]

also i forgot to include sexy bofors, are there cases where other AA guns are better than it given that ECTL says they are “great general use with high alpha and dps”

[frank pulsar]

depends on your overall fleet aa
if youre able to shoot down all the plane use 2, if youre leaking a lot just use one and use more twin 90

[frank pulsar]

yea it is a general use aa gun, personally i think i mixed it with a twin 113 and twin 90 for w15

youll still want to use accelerator on the less good aa ship in your fleet over sexy though

[inland shoal]

Can you tell me in words? I don't have wifi rn and have to be frugal with my data

[sharp socket]

so using my above example fleet with sandy, suzutsuki and anchorage, which one do i replace with a sexy bofors if i have one? sandy?

[calm rose]

only her "Honed through adversity" activated

[frank pulsar]

sandy gets it yea

[sharp socket]

does twin 113 move to anyone else?

[frank pulsar]

imho no

[cobalt rapids]

btw thorin this comp for me one shots with only 2 hvar on 2 scans and im not max tech so mby u can try if u want

[sharp socket]

alr got it

[frank pulsar]

your current fleet alrdy overkill aa for w14 anyway with sandy in it

[steady beacon]

Can second this, if you can match the +13s this should work on two scans

Also beacon Yorktown

[strange sphinx]

Hmmm what's better for alsace... the Fire control or the Heavy shell?

[cobalt rapids]

depends on content but most of the time u run white shell and hpfcr
but just like i posted sometimes 2x shell is better

[inland shoal]

Guess I'll have to finish my Mogus
Any particular reason for the quints?

[cobalt rapids]

nope, just leftover +13 torps i had on hand

[calm rose]

what torp is that on mog? the gear lab one?

[cobalt rapids]

ah on mog its the anti light ones in lab yea

[strange sphinx]

also, why officer sword?

[calm rose]

bowgun will make you deal 5% less damage to light armor

and extra hit helps

[strange sphinx]

so what's the Armor of 13-2 boss?

[jaunty vault]

/wiki 13-2

[cobalt rapids]

w13 is med med med heavy

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/13-2
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/13-4
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/13-3
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/13-1
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/11-2
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/10-2
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/12-2
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/14-2
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/1-2
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/%2B13

Jul 5, 2024, 9:58 AM

[sour osprey]

where can i see what unions my ships belong to?

[inland shoal]

%2B13

Unions?

[sour osprey]

like their factions

[frank pulsar]

ship prefix tells you
e.g. hms = royal navy, kms/sms = iron blood, etc

[strange sphinx]

hmmm so bowgun is useful in W13?

[cobalt rapids]

the prefix under their name

[sharp socket]

after getting suzutsuki raised is there any situation where ill need to use tashkent over her

[inland shoal]

Also I think it says in details?

[frank pulsar]

their general attire and name also hints/tells you what faction theyre from

[sour osprey]

what prefix is eagle union?

[strange sphinx]

USS =Union
HMS = Navy
IJN= Sakura
KMS= Ironblood

[frank pulsar]

uss

[sour osprey]

tyvm

[inland shoal]

Bowgun is useful against heavy armour

[sharp socket]

if they have an eagle its most likely american