gameplay-help

[icy mountain]

Mobs r light armor right?

[cobalt rapids]

some, but not the highest threats

[icy mountain]

okay thanks

[viscid swift]

you could also swap FDG for another CV

[icy mountain]

will do some attempts when i max fdg

[icy mountain]

i could do sara?

[viscid swift]

I would take her over FDG

[icy mountain]

okay so indy, sara, and uni

i would probably do volga but i didnt get her at the rerun

[viscid swift]

or, you have FDG move to the boss fleet and swap her with Shanrgi-La

[icy mountain]

does fdg need to be flagship? Or can i just flagship enterprise?

[viscid swift]

if she's not FS5 she would want it

[icy mountain]

seems better?

[icy mountain]

okay then

[viscid swift]

yes

but swap Helena and San Diego's AA guns

[icy mountain]

oh yeah i got 2 roombas

ill just put those on them

how many gold plates do i need to +13 a gold gun?

[viscid swift]

120

[icy mountain]

ty

[remote yarrow]

I got pinged twice

Oh yeah pretty sure last month was BB CV
#gameplay-help message found the pic

[worldly pewter]

use the search function
mention : type ur name

[remote yarrow]

Yeah I did it was Thorin

[hot bobcat]

Wait you need a bulin for this???

[viscid swift]

yes

[hot bobcat]

Bruuuhhh

[hot bobcat]

Is it the elite or gold?

[shell willow]

elite (same as base rarity of the ship)

[hot bobcat]

Ok good

If not, i was gonna have a conniption about that

[cobalt rapids]

dupes also work

[remote yarrow]

Yeah like Umi said, you can also use a dupe from guild shop to save a bulin

Or if you got one laying somewhere

[hot bobcat]

Oh, well, uhh, totally did not just waste 600+ guild tokens for more blueprints and t3 boxes

[remote yarrow]

Hmm the T3 may have been a waste, not the BPs those are fine

[stark quiver]

600 is nothing, youd have a few thousand at least

[icy hazel]

Currently with 1700 core and never bough anything with it, what should buy I buy first?

[hot bobcat]

Well bright side is im getting really close on getting laffey and port retrofitted which means im getting to the finish line on fleet one

[remote yarrow]

You got Unicorn done yet?

[hot bobcat]

Shes gettin there. Just need more coins and 2 BP's of T4

[remote yarrow]

Ok nice, you are doing good

[hot bobcat]

Mhm thats what i used the guild tokens for was nothing but carrier BP's T3

[stone sluice]

For crossfleet barrage, is it better to have New Jersey or Bismarck Zwei?

[hot bobcat]

@remote yarrow so, after fleet one production is completed, i can now start production of fleet two, yes?

[remote yarrow]

What was your fleet again?

Was it the one that we told you to finish MLBing and leveling some more?

[low juniper]

What does champ gun look like again

[hot bobcat]

Mhm. Fleet one is this one. And i already got all the parts for each ship sorted out already

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)

[low juniper]

Just got my first

[hot bobcat]

As for fleet two... it needs a whole retrofit lmao

[remote yarrow]

That's bad

[hot bobcat]

Yeah i NEED to get it fixed

[low juniper]

Out of Alsace, Soyuz, Nelson and Constellation who should get champ gun first

[remote yarrow]

Guns are situational for content

[tame jungle]

Whoever is facing medium or heavy armor

[remote yarrow]

Use it when needed against med/hev

[low juniper]

Is there a way to tell what's what in campaign

[remote yarrow]

Most is Light up to W12 or so

[low juniper]

I've cleared all of W13

[remote yarrow]

I guess you can check out the Wiki

[tame jungle]

If you wanna make sure you can check nagami.moe node overview to see what you’re facing exactly

[remote yarrow]

or yeah nagami's website too

[hot bobcat]

Fleet two ships needed

[low juniper]

Okay but assuming I'm facing the aforementioned armor types in opsi which ship in my bb fleet should get it; Nelson, Alsace or Soyuz?

[remote yarrow]

Either of the URs

If fight is less than 80s Alsace, more than 80s Soyuz iirc

[low juniper]

So if it's more than 80s who should I give Soyuz's gun to?

Cause she has her event gun

[remote yarrow]

Oh her gun is a sidegrade to champy just give it to Alsace then

[low juniper]

Oh okay

[haughty dust]

Is there a campaign or war archives node you can farm bps for this at?

[low juniper]

And does champ outperform 406 mk6 in general content or does 406 mk6 have its content that it performs better in than champ?

[remote yarrow]

You could've just scrolled down a little

[haughty dust]

I did and did not see anything. I need more roombas but the crafting area says I am still at 5 of 15

[loud rover]

every gear shows a "obtained from" section at the bottom of the page

[haughty dust]

woops also wrong image. I am referring to the Gold version of those

[loud rover]

so is smootie :v

[remote yarrow]

Yeah I am too

[haughty dust]

I meant this one:

[loud rover]

the wiki even tells you the preceeding equipment it needs in gear lab

[remote yarrow]

Like I said, I am refering to that one too

[loud rover]

we are talking about the same roomba, stop ignoring what we're telling u

[silk helm]

Is the triple 155 better than the upgraded gear lab version?

[loud rover]

155kai is better, but usually used at BB secondary for w14

[low juniper]

?

[haughty dust]

I wasnt ignoring you. I was simply on the wrong rarity

the blue one does not have any sources listed at the bottom.

[silk helm]

I see ty

[stark quiver]

champy gun and 406 are completely different, one is AP and one is HE, theres no general content

[silk helm]

Does it have any other uses? Guide says it's a top prio

[remote yarrow]

mk6 is mostly for mobbing and vs light, Champy is mainly used for Med/Heavy bossing

[silk helm]

What's the full name of champy gun?

[remote yarrow]

In game? Prototype Triple 406mm /50 Main Gun Mount

[loud rover]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)

[silk helm]

Ty friends

[wispy pendant]

This is what it says in the gear guide:

[loud rover]

triple SAP for medium armor

[wispy pendant]

Soyuz gun I think is even better than SAP

[loud rover]

i took a break after uvh rerun and came back in like late may so i missed soyuz

[little tree]

Should I + 11 this ?

[viscid swift]

there are high priorites than that for +13

[little tree]

I'm guessing they are all gear lab.

[remote yarrow]

And just +11 is not worth, you either +13 or you leave it at +10

[wispy pendant]

never +11, either leave it at +10, or plan to go to +13

[remote yarrow]

#bot-spam /plus13

First ones should be your Champy guns

[little tree]

How do I get champy?

[remote yarrow]

And also upgrading UR stuff requires three times more mats

[viscid swift]

Prototype shop is the preffered method

[remote yarrow]

Also Gearlab but yeah protocore is better

PR3 too but that's not recommended at all in case you were thinking about it

[little tree]

This?

[viscid swift]

yes

[remote yarrow]

30

[little tree]

I don't know how to get them

[remote yarrow]

Have you analyzed your CDPs?

[stark quiver]

you have enough for 1 print

analyze the data packs

[little tree]

What are cdp

[viscid swift]

combat data packs

[little tree]

Oh let me see if I can

[remote yarrow]

Please tell me you didn't use them on CDC

[little tree]

525 series 1

I did use some to get the roon exp

[remote yarrow]

That's a big yikes

[stark quiver]

hold up isnt 525 converted like a thousand

[remote yarrow]

Don't ever use them again to rush Combat data Collection missions it's a waste

[remote yarrow]

1050

[remote yarrow]

Well, now get yourself 20x of the Season 3 ones

[stark quiver]

nice npw u have enough to get champy gun

[remote yarrow]

Emphasis on Season 3

[little tree]

Is ot that first gun on the left?

[stark quiver]

search it up, better to learn

[remote yarrow]

No, you get them from these

[viscid swift]

that's teh Champaign Gun

[remote yarrow]

You buy 20 each month until you get 75 BPs for 3 guns

[remote yarrow]

Where's the red arrows

[little tree]

I got it I was talijg about thr ur guns in the shop not the thing scrolled down

[remote yarrow]

Oh the first thing you should save for is the plane

It's 3000 protocore for all 50

[slender heart]

Just curious, do you guys swap your opsi fleets every month? The bb and cv fleet one specifically

[remote yarrow]

When needed or when I get better ships/options

[stark quiver]

I kinda just change the guns, and the planes

[remote yarrow]

I think some guys in here haven't touched their Opsi fleets for a long time, unless they put Alsace in

[slender heart]

I change ther gear ofc, but shimakaze good against heavy, mogador better against light. I'm contemplating

[viscid swift]

the difference is honestley not worth carring about if you're comfortably beating Harbiter already

[remote yarrow]

For boss fleets it's better to have supports or ships that have support abilities towards the Main fleet rather than just plain vanguard damage dealers

[slender heart]

I know but my optimized self screaming out loud. Maybe i should just stop bothering

[stark quiver]

If you can one to two fleet harbiter, then nothing needs to be changed honestly

[slender heart]

Got it, i have agir and ply alongside those two

[viscid swift]

after a certain point, optimization get's you no practical benefits

[wispy pendant]

the angrier the red markings, the better

[inland shoal]

Yeah thx it seems I was just wrong all this times about no repeats

Especially Lexy makes it obvious

[icy hazel]

Anything that I should buy with these first?

[viscid swift]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[icy hazel]

Aight thanks

[hollow gust]

I changed my mob fleet with Alsace , what tf is a BB fleet

[elfin hollow]

thank you

[short wagon]

@viscid swift gang i MLB bismarck zwei what do i do now

[viscid swift]

Remind me again who you have still to limit break

[short wagon]

u said to go for yk2 next right

[viscid swift]

Yes I did

And that still stands

[short wagon]

what do i do with bismarck zweir

[wispy pendant]

she's good, use her, what do you mean what do you do with her?

[soft raft]

plop her wherever you need Beeg damage BB

[nocturne shoal]

you marry her

[short wagon]

do that in agust

[nocturne shoal]

[short wagon]

yeah where gang

[wispy pendant]

wdym

[whole crypt]

you can use BisZwei almost anywhere, the fleet comp depends on what you're doing

would not recommend oathing unless waifu

[wispy pendant]

use her while playing azur lane

[hollow gust]

It's a UR bb, they shit on basically every SR bb ingame in every content

Also finish a ship before you swap to another

[whole crypt]

it's not about who else you have, you can use her just about anywhere but we can't tell you how or what to do without a context of where you want to actually try

[short wagon]

story

[wispy pendant]

sometimes questions have to be intelligent enough to get an intelligent answer

[short wagon]

gang idk what im supposed to ask

[whole crypt]

which chapter

[short wagon]

chapter 10 and onwards

[whole crypt]

it basically doesn't matter until ch13 then, just use her anywhere you'd normally use a BB

[short wagon]

should i replace anybody for her in curent fleets

[whole crypt]

yes like your not-MLB New Jersey

[hollow gust]

Well that NJ , she isn't even Max limit broken

[wispy pendant]

biz2 is great thru chapter 14, I'm not sure she's meta in w15

[hollow gust]

She is missing like a third of her damage not being mlb

[short wagon]

should i just move the gear from nj to biz2

[stark quiver]

not really meta, but usable

[whole crypt]

well BisZwei can use CL gun for secondary, so besides that

[hollow gust]

Well Bismarck 2 gets to use a CL gun

🐢

[whole crypt]

Chinese gun

[viscid swift]

I didn't know DE had guns in the game

[whole crypt]

they technically do and it happens to fit in that slot

[soft raft]

Retextured TashGun Harbin gun go brrrrrr

[short wagon]

does this work? what should i change

[frigid pine]

im far behind on units because of not playing for years out of the Pr1 Pr2 and Pr3 which one would be best to get if i buy the full upgrade for $14.99?

[viscid swift]

Poverty but it works

[frigid pine]

i have Monarch Neptune and St Louis from Pr1 already

[soft raft]

that pack isnt really worth it
the only one there remotely worth the price would be Cheshire but even then, that's a stretch

You cant buy FdG with it either so

[short wagon]

yes poverty

[viscid swift]

Izumo from PR1
Kitakaze form PR2
And Cheshire from PR3

Not that I particularly reccomend buying them in the first place but well

[whole crypt]

or just save that money and buy something more useful like gems or cruise pass

[frigid pine]

giving back to the game the enjoyment it gives me

[whole crypt]

not saying you shouldn't spend money on the game, just saying the PR vouchers aren't great spends

[viscid swift]

I would rather spend on Gem Packs

[soft raft]

Just buy gems

Esp with the 2x bonus rest being imminent in a month

[short wagon]

what do i change if possible

[wispy pendant]

I mean, you've played the game this far, I think you would be able to formulate a guess of an answer better.

[whole crypt]

equipment guide exists, at this point you should start learning lategame gearing

[short wagon]

the thing is, I dont. I have no idea how I got this far in the game, and i thought its better late than never to ask for help

[worldly pewter]

his bz is on avg lvl 6 skills so i think he took a very long pause

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[frigid pine]

also i have Takao Atago Belfast in fleet 1 and Portland Laffy Retro and Sirius in fleet 2 is there someone i should focus on farming/upgrading to replace any and i have recently retro Yuudachi if it helps?

[short wagon]

i logged in once a month between 2022 and 2023

[wispy pendant]

have you read the newbie guide and read the gear guide? It'll probably help you understand a lot. You're further along than the need for the newbie guides boat recommendations, but maybe it'll help you understand some things

[viscid swift]

Something like that

[whole crypt]

you probably should go back to https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips and https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

[short wagon]

whats the secondary aux

[viscid swift]

High standard fire control radar

[wispy pendant]

white shell from core and hpfcr from research

[hollow gust]

Not using 457

[viscid swift]

It's from research

[short wagon]

alr

[viscid swift]

What makes you think I was using Zwei at all...

Only threw the Mk7 on there because that's what they had

[short wagon]

is type 1 better or super heavy better

[wispy pendant]

white better than black for most situations, iirc

[viscid swift]

Minimal difference but it is usually preferred especially on Zwei

[whole crypt]

where the HIT isn't statistically better the FP is usually also wasted

BisZwei is also guaranteed some crits so critdmg better than critrate

[sharp socket]

should i try to +13 my wyvern or tenrai first

[viscid swift]

Tenrai

[whole crypt]

assuming you already have other key planes +13'd

[viscid swift]

But among aircraft neither is first

[sharp socket]

uh i do not

[viscid swift]

Bf-109gs and converging TB bombers come first

[whole crypt]

rocket fighters and converging TBs first

[sharp socket]

alr

so saiun kai or bf109 first

or are there other converge i should have

ju87?

[viscid swift]

Depends a bit on your set up

[cobalt rapids]

Bf109 first and u should have a mix of all conv tbs so u can adapt

[sharp socket]

having different converge is for faction gear buffs on certain ships right

[viscid swift]

No

[cobalt rapids]

No its for timing

[sharp socket]

oh ok

[viscid swift]

They're all timing sidegrades of each other

[whole crypt]

in the case of TBs it's more for timing

[viscid swift]

2 of each is good to start

[whole crypt]

in the case of most other weapons it depends on the enemy

[short wagon]

for the sr fire control thing from research its just luck and gambling to get bnlueprints rignt

[sharp socket]

alr then

[cobalt rapids]

Right

[whole crypt]

it's only gambling if you think short term

[sharp socket]

so i should make ju87 when i need a different timing adjust?

[whole crypt]

you're guaranteed research gear through persistent (good) reserach, that's how statistics work

[short wagon]

alr

[whole crypt]

check research guide if you have to, or ask here if you're not sure, sounds like you might not have been up to speed for research either

[sharp socket]

currently if we use wich meta as an example, for me enty with saiun kai hits first strike, hits second strike and misses 3rd strike but helena almost always dies before 3rd strike

[short wagon]

im behind on like everything lmfao

[meager gyro]

which of these should i buy? already got 11 prints for the triple rectangle gun

[soft raft]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Guide.jpeg

[soft raft]

Also do you have any idea how vauge "Triple rectangle gun" is

[meager gyro]

this one

[soft raft]

Bruh why

[meager gyro]

why what?

[soft raft]

[whole crypt]

probably bad researches in the past, pretty sure he's not focusing PR3 now

[short wagon]

do i get the quadruple CL gun and throw it on bis2

[stark quiver]

~~um thats a square actually ~~

[whole crypt]

gentle reminder generic advice doesn't really work for him

[meager gyro]

idk what i did now again

[whole crypt]

as far as I can tell nothing

[silk helm]

Nvm can't read

[soft raft]

vanguard ships have prio for it over backliners so no unless you have enough to spare

[whole crypt]

at least nothing that would have been the result of your past 3-4 weeks

[short wagon]

ok ill throw it on like helena?

[viscid swift]

Bismarck Zwei would not have first priority for it nor would it be first priority from the Prototype shop

[soft raft]

Plymouth > Basically every other gunboat CL > Everyone else

[short wagon]

not there yet

im finishing up anchorage then im doing fdg azuma then pr4 then ontp pr5

[sharp socket]

so dont get it, unless again you’re in excess of protocore

[calm rose]

Unless you're using a full rocket loadout or you know when the enemy stops, not having slow/stop debuffer in your team is bad

And by timing, we meant timing with your slow/stop debuffer and helena's debuff so the unit in question hits the enemy while the debuff is still in effect

[short wagon]

yeah i have some sitting around

[sharp socket]

i have no slow/stop debuffer is the thing

[meager gyro]

so, which of the guns or plane should i buy

[soft raft]

honestly would still like a slow/freeze with Rocket fighters since there's still Torp Bombers that need to land their shots

[stark quiver]

why do i feel like youve asked this same question before

[calm rose]

No avp/ark?

[soft raft]

damn if only there were a bot command that could answer that question #gameplay-help message

[meager gyro]

thats advice for a normal account that isnt as cooked as mine

[sharp socket]

i dont know exactly when the boss stops, because im lazy to open emu and measure every frame to figure out its movement pattern

[viscid swift]

Said advice does not change no matter the state of the account

[calm rose]

Why do you still believe your account is cooked

[odd flare]

What is this Agir side quest ??

[viscid swift]

It's a secretary story

[sharp socket]

avp soonish

[odd flare]

oh fun ! thank u

[stark quiver]

so youre just not gonna take normal advice and leave your account as is?

[spring bolt]

an alternative is to learn Chinese, as CN publishes every meta boss move pattern in datamine

[sharp socket]

i can read chinese but not china chinese sadness

[meager gyro]

everything i do is just wrong huh

[sharp socket]

sir you need to think positively

[vale spindle]

[soft raft]

Your whole ass mindset is wrong

[viscid swift]

For the love of

[cobalt rapids]

Can we not start again

No1 is forced to follow advice but ure not forced to give it either

[viscid swift]

How many times do I need to say this, things like this take time to fix but if you follow advice and just play the game you can easily turn things around

[jaunty vault]

[viscid swift]

I should know, because for the first few months of this game I was probably even worse off than you are currently

I broke pretty much every rule there is to be broken on what not to do early game

I didn't enhance gear, I stopped to farm for ships, I bought every single ship from the core data shop before buying any gear, I didn't finish the rookie missions until after I had reached W12 over 6 months after I started playing, I used CDPs for XP instead of converting them to prototype cores, etc

[stark quiver]

oh my

[sharp socket]

hes starting to sound like me now

[jaunty vault]

bros going in a monologue

[stark quiver]

dont worry i spent gems on the in sortie repairs

[viscid swift]

And you know how I turned things around, I listened to advice, started doing things I should have and over time I caught up and fixed my account

Was it quick, no and I made plenty of mistakes along the why like not doing OpSi

[frigid pine]

Atago isnt anywhere in the Fleetbuilding Guide so should i replace her with Yuudachi Retro or Neptune untill i get cheshire?

[viscid swift]

But it is very much possible, you just need to listen

[cobalt rapids]

What fleetbuilding guide

[jaunty vault]

is neptune in the fleet building guide

[frigid pine]

yeah neptune is under mob main tank

Yuddachi is under damage

[slender heart]

You're all over the place, they are totally different from each other

[sharp socket]

are u referring to the tier list

[low juniper]

Should I craft the sextuple bofors and give it to Guam instead of her having a gold roomba?

I have more than enough resources for it and idk if I really have any other priority

[cobalt rapids]

Then replace the roles within roles but alot of ships arent worth going for

[frigid pine]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding referring to this

[meager gyro]

Guess I don't buy anything for now

[frigid pine]

My Current Lineup is Takao Atago Belfast - so i was wondering if i should replace Atago with either Neptune for extra Tanky or Yuudachi Extra damage for boss Fleet

[slender heart]

Without further context, yuudachi (if she's retro'd)

[left cedar]

idk for wut, but seens quite bad, all this 3 ships are quite weak

[frigid pine]

okay i was going to replace with Cheshire later on down the line once i unlock her due to being a boss tank and multiple other categories

[slender heart]

I don't get it

[cobalt rapids]

U build fleets around content

[viscid swift]

I can't remember if that was something reccomend in a thread or not

[copper girder]

who should i build first agir or higdenburg

[cobalt rapids]

Agir

[frigid pine]

you recommended Takao Atago Belfast a boss fleet Vng and Portland Laffey and Sirus as Mob Fleet Vng for stage 10

[viscid swift]

Oh yeah I did, use that until W12

[sharp socket]

yeah u do not need to build and dev a cheshire for w10

[cobalt rapids]

U shouldnt do any pr grind before w12 at all

[viscid swift]

Trust me, that was what they had leveled and the alts were yeah...

[frigid pine]

lol yeah my list is shabby

[viscid swift]

But yeah, push to W12 first before you even think about switching to farming XP for PR

[frigid pine]

okay what units should i focus on getting for after?

[sharp socket]

you should be doing catchup anchorage along the way

[frigid pine]

catchup anchorage?

[sharp socket]

research focus pr4, research catchup anchorage

[stark quiver]

if im only doing researches for a certain ship, for example brest, what i should be doing is only going for her face print researches, and if there arent any, go for the lowest time rigging/gd research correct?

[sharp socket]

afterwards you can do fdg in pr2 if you have enough tech points, if not roon first then fdg

[short wagon]

where do i get the AA

[sharp socket]

research

[viscid swift]

Primarily Research as well

[silk helm]

Wait how u have so many coins

[frigid pine]

im on 513/850 for Union which was why i was doing cheshire as i seem to get 90% Navy pulls

[slender heart]

That's what i did too, except i went for q/d

[viscid swift]

I'm finished with Research, have no gear to enhance, and farm W12 non stop

[sharp socket]

yeah but u can do catchup while doing your grind up to w12, and build roon in the meantime

[frigid pine]

cancel cheshire then and start roon?

[sharp socket]

you can come back to cheshire anyway

roon is purely just for tech so you can get to fdg

[worldly pewter]

all gacha games need time to progress
it is the core of the fun of these games

[frigid pine]

Freiderich der grosse?

[stark quiver]

oh ye and that, i usually go for lowest time that takes either plates or coins

[sharp socket]

yes

[frigid pine]

i take it FDG is going to be a main?

[sharp socket]

she will go into mob/bb fleet eventually

[blissful hamlet]

should I +13 the new torps?

[viscid swift]

I did

[sharp socket]

shes also coinable

[blissful hamlet]

[sharp socket]

itll take 73 days of 7.2k coins/d but its alright cause youll be at w12 by then

[frigid pine]

Okay Also i have Shinano New Jersey Alsace and Mogador which UR should i be upgrading with the UR bulin?

[viscid swift]

Alsace first

[sharp socket]

alsace

[agile sky]

Really shouldve done this earlier, but could i ask for help here to build a low oil cost yuudachi farming team?

[frigid pine]

thank god i just pulled NJ so been working on alsace to +5

[stark quiver]

unicorn + ddg, cuz according to cheeky ranger+mahan no work, which is correct

[sharp socket]

is ddg cheaper oil than starter dd

[viscid swift]

Costs the same actually

[stark quiver]

its 20 oil per run

[sweet delta]

Jumping straight from 4 oil to 20 oil

[sharp socket]

if no ddg then just use regular gun dd?

[frigid pine]

just about to head off is 5* Alsace better than 5* retro Warspite?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[stark quiver]

infinitely

[sweet delta]

There is no 5 star retro warspite

[soft raft]

It's not difficult at all to beat Warspite retro
She's been powercrept hard since like 2019

[sharp socket]

that is visual bug

[viscid swift]

That's a visual bug

[agile sky]

what level would the ddg have to be? And is there gear requirement?

[sharp socket]

hotswap your best gear

[frigid pine]

ahaha im tired just clicked on her properly and shes 6* so is 5* alsace better than 6* Retro warspite then

[viscid swift]

At least 90 since that's what level you need to finish the retro

You could try running a 0 LB Battle Monitor and 0 LB Cassin and Downes

[balmy kindle]

hello, can someone point me to the direction of fleet builds. (iron blood)

[agile sky]

...where do i get a missle like rn...i have nothing...

[viscid swift]

As I recall that's what was used back in the day

[viscid swift]

Core data shop

[heady pier]

should i start to 125 units or no?

[soft raft]

Insert obligatory "Faction fleet bad" statement here
No such dedicated guide exists

[heady pier]

my unicorn for example stuck on 120lvl 3m exp

[frigid pine]

thankyou for your help guys I really appreciate it ❤️

[viscid swift]

As I said Unicorn isn't top priority for 125

[balmy kindle]

i see, my bad.

[viscid swift]

Better to wait until you need ships at 125 before uncapping them

[agile sky]

would u say her special auxillary thing is more important here or the torpedo?

[viscid swift]

The missile is more important because there's literally nothing else you can equip in that slot

If you don't have the resources for a DDG though any competent vanguard works

Like your starter

[agile sky]

if i cant get the missle, is the ddg strat still possible or nah?

[viscid swift]

I would can the idea of using a DDG at that point

[sharp socket]

use a normal dd like your starter

they should be sufficiently leveled anyway

[sweet delta]

Unicorn ddg is massive overkill

[copper girder]

what does ddg mean

[sharp socket]

i use laffey 1 indep for 1:1 stuff

[viscid swift]

Guided Missile Destroyer

[copper girder]

🙀

[undone plover]

sushi
ik u explained the "10 fake levels" at some point but I have forgotten how it works

using an example:

if my ships are level 80 and enemy is 105 with threat level 10
i deal -50% less damage and enemy does +50% damage right?

now same map at threat level 0 (safe)
i deal 30% less damage and enemy does +10% damage (-20 from map and -20 from the fake levels?) to me
is that correct?

[sweet delta]

Iirc technically the enemy loses levels, not your ships gain levels

[undone plover]

should have the same effect tho right?

[sweet delta]

The damage from map and damage from fake levels is probably multiplicative but I forgot

It doesn't matter, just tldr safe threat = ggez

[undone plover]

tbh I dont need the exact numbers. just wanted confirmation that it is not only the 20% dmg red but also 10 levels worth of dmg reduction/buff which makes a huge difference

[vale spindle]

It is yes

[keen sable]

it's very contradictory

[agile sky]

okay im sorry...why is tai yan so broken?
she zooming, she melting the boss, and she's barely losing any hp and she is super low oil cost.
Why is an elite ship turn ssr so amazing ???

[vale spindle]

The map damage / damage red buffs are seperate from level advantage

and stack with it

Wiki explains it better than i can

[viscid swift]

because Missiles are good and that's what the devs decided for her retro

among other things

[keen sable]

did you know a decrease of minus 3 is an increase

[agile sky]

...im not using any missles lmao

slots literally empty.
ur telling she could be alot better?!?!?

[vale spindle]

Yes lol

[viscid swift]

yes, missiles are like what 40% of the damage of a DDG

[keen sable]

are you farming 2-1 or something?

[agile sky]

lmao, she feels more like a UR ship than most of my UR ships.

[candid meteor]

sh would just be a dd without the g

[agile sky]

nah 6-4

but still, feels like she's clearing fast than when i was running a full team with URs, maybe its just her zooming animation that gives me that vibe?

[keen sable]

you ran a team of over 80 oil on 6-4?

[agile sky]

ToT I know....

[keen sable]

nice

[eager mulch]

nice

[agile sky]

I wasted sooooo much oil for soooo long

[strong tartan]

Solemnly pats back

[kind olive]

Heyyo.. does FDG do crossfleet barrage? I think I remember she does but idk how to proc it. But the skills description doesn't seems to say anything bout crossfleet activation

[strong tartan]

No she doesn't

You're probably thinking of UVH's barrage since hers and FDG's are similar except UVH just has a crossfleet

[kind olive]

hmm... maybe. I guess im doing auto too much and didn't see how they really works

[sour osprey]

is the only way to level up my ships doing battles

[kind olive]

battles, put them in dorm, use exp book

[viscid swift]

it's your main method

there's also dorms and XP packs but dorm takes a while and XP packs are scarce for new players

[clever sun]

Guys, i got diego, unicorn, z23, portland all retrofit. Who should i retrofit next?

[soft raft]

Independence and Helena
then afterwards besides the DDG retrofits, they're mostly collection

[eager mulch]

independence good, helena good

damn I’m turtle today

[sour osprey]

where can i level them up with xp books? sorry i might be missing a tab

[kind olive]

dock => choose the ship => tap the exp bar

[sour osprey]

ty

[soft raft]

And you primarily get XP books by grinding with lvl 100+ ships

[sour osprey]

are any of the common ships from the story worth using? i have a lot and theyre just sitting around

[heavy gyro]

some i think

i just use em for enhancement

[soft raft]

Outside of extreme poverty options and the few that give good fleet tech? nope

[sour osprey]

gotcha

[clever sun]

I can only get inde from pulls or core shop right?

[soft raft]

core data shop only

[clever sun]

Thanks

[finite crag]

Didnt they confirm there was gonna be an italian ship in pr7

[soft raft]

yup DR CA

[finite crag]

Cool

[viscid swift]

they confirmed there would be an Italian DR CA in PR7

[sharp socket]

are 155 kai gonna replace my CL main gun/BB secondary or do the other guns still have use

[viscid swift]

155 Kai is only better in W14

[jaunty vault]

on backlines

[viscid swift]

everywhere else it either doesn't matter ir it's worse

[soft raft]

*As a BB Aux

[loud rover]

aw man i'm cooked for the DR7, i only have 168 sardegna tech points and only 5 non-mlb ships

[sharp socket]

alr

[loud rover]

any more SE ships we can get outside of cubes aside from Conte in tragicomedy?

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#rn

[sharp socket]

wiki says 155 kai is better than twin 150 tbtsk almost all of the time

[vale spindle]

As a main gun yes thats correct

[loud rover]

huh i didnt know trento was italian, guess i should look at merit shop ships more often

[novel condor]

Goober u white name now

[uneven cave]

Daedalian rerun isn’t too far off right

[sharp socket]

so if im not doing w14 yet but i can make 155 kai, should i do so to replace CL main gun for some of my ships

[viscid swift]

you can but it's a lower priority

[eager mulch]

humanity restored

[jaunty vault]

[soft raft]

Yes it's the next major event in line to be archived

[uneven cave]

Oh archive I don’t remember the rerun

[soft raft]

It reran last March lol

[stark quiver]

and aquila will be added to perma pool and nowhere else?

[sharp socket]

i have materials for mk7 and im not going to make it anytime soon so itll be fine right

[soft raft]

yup

[sour osprey]

is the event banner worth building on as a new player?

[tender lotus]

When is indomitable rerun?

[soft raft]

Next event in line to rerun
No clue when

[uneven cave]

I don’t know why but I misread indom for implac

[eager mulch]

someone forgot indom is in vanguard event

[eager mulch]

sorry, EN virus is contagious

[tender lotus]

I missed vanguard event.....

[stark quiver]

rerun soon™️

[sharp socket]

vanny rerun has the AFCT in there right

[eager mulch]

yeppega

[tender lotus]

Ugh many will have 2 AFCT then

[blissful hamlet]

boomer

[eager mulch]

forget 2nd AFCT give me a 2nd skyraider

[blissful hamlet]

does drake still want HE or normal gun vs med/heavy boss

[eager mulch]

whichever has higher raw dps, both get swapped to her special HE

[blissful hamlet]

but what about vs med/heavy boss? would AP gun better than the special HE?

[left cedar]

i dont need a 2nd AFCT, i need a H-39 CV UR

[viscid swift]

so Manfred von Richtofen, cope for PR8

[brisk shard]

is saratoga worth retrofit?

[blissful hamlet]

are you real

[fresh tangle]

Yes

[steady beacon]

Based on UvH, they could just take the concept and give her another name tbh

[eager mulch]

cheeky is not real, he can’t hurt you

[steady beacon]

And make her standard UR

[soft raft]

She's pretty good
Esp if you lack enough good options

[blissful hamlet]

speculation

[sharp socket]

where pomfret

[brisk shard]

what is helena and sara role?

[steady beacon]

Serenity, shall I share your speculations?

[eager mulch]

debuffer and damage

[soft raft]

Debuffer and Mobbing/Damage CV respectively

[sharp socket]

avp is solely boss for slow right

does she do more damage than sara

[steady beacon]

Well, she can probably plausibly do better focused damage than Sara depending on how you choose to calculate...
And if one were to measure the effect of the stop as contributing to AvP's effective damage, in that all your aimed ordnance suddenly hits with perfect consistency, I'd say she effectively wins
But again, depending on how you choose to measure this...

[brisk shard]

thanks

[sharp socket]

drop her into CM and check damage value after 10mins

same gear same tech same skill levels just semi-vacuum test

[steady beacon]

Hardly a fair test this month given that AvP has the "type advantage"

[sharp socket]

alright nevermind ill just assume shes better

[eager mulch]

what even is Sara’s kit isn’t it fighter/db/db?

[steady beacon]

At the end of the day
Even if AvP's damage were worse
I'd still use her so that her two partners don't hilariously whiff as the boss dances around the screen and dodge all their conv torps

And probably their rockets, too

Damage, interestingly, is not everything there is to this game...

[sharp socket]

so she will just go into cv fleet for ops

[fresh tangle]

That’s what avp will largely be for me but I’ve only got budget avp (arc Royale) atm

[steady beacon]

Indeed, that is a good place for her

[undone plover]

She doesnt have to be opsi only but her stop isnt that valuable in campaign since most of the time u want to stagger your boss fleet not sync it (in the hard chapters where using good ships actually matters)

U can use her for meta fights as well especially if lacking implacable

[sharp socket]

another question is ddg more damage than suzutsuki

[steady beacon]

Instinctively, should be
And prob by a pretty good margin, at that

[sharp socket]

so should i build suzutsuki which i have currently or a ddg

actually can i obtain one of them even

[wind hazel]

chang chun can be bought from guild shop

[blissful hamlet]

you can get chang chun from guild shop

[wind hazel]

tai yuan too, if you have her retro item

[blissful hamlet]

suzutsuki is good at mobbing if you lack mobbing DD but DDG is good at everything

[undone plover]

The only bad thing about ddg is u need to eat the 1k spec core cost which if u are in UR bulin debt kinda hurts

[wind hazel]

need core data too 💸

[stark quiver]

smh shouldve been here during cna

[wispy herald]

Should this ever be used?

[jaunty vault]

fleet power ranking

[sharp socket]

ill be done with shells and snorkel next month so itll be fine

[stark quiver]

0 cuz 0 worth

[wispy herald]

Alright then ahaha

[noble tulip]

I’ve calculated my gold plates and found something puzzling, the amount of auxiliary gold plate acquired seems very weird given I’ve never bought any from the guild shop, if anything it should be closer to my AA/Torp plates, anyone knows if aux plates are somehow weighted higher from random drops ?

[novel condor]

Sounds like rng to me

[noble tulip]

Perhaps but a whopping 1000 extra gold plates sounds weird to me

[stark quiver]

rng is like that sometimes

[noble tulip]

I guess I’ll ask my guild mates and see if they found the same result

[loud rover]

azuma or brest gun any good?

[sweet delta]

Azuma gun is the best gun for Guam against light

[fossil shard]

Which gun is azuma’s?

[eager mulch]

triple 310

[stark quiver]

does farming c5 give ap boxxes

[silver lintel]

From akashi spawn only

[stray jasper]

I have 940 gems as a ftp player, is there anything good to spend it on or should I just go for skins?

[sharp socket]

dockspace

all dockspace, after dorm 3rd slot and 2nd floor

skins are for whale, or if you dont care too much about collection

[stray jasper]

Ahhhh okay gotcha, thanks man

[forest palm]

not sustainably, if you like smashing your head against a wall that'd be C1 spaming

don't really recommend either way

[jaunty vault]

its akashi that gives you the AP boxes so if youre gonna strat search, make sure you have it set so it stops on mysterious merchant

[sharp socket]

does auto exchange work with akashi

what does auto exchange do then

[forest palm]

that just consumes ESD, and nothing else

which is basically for towers, and boxes

[fresh tangle]

Need one more black shell then should I get Independence?

[forest palm]

sure, woudln't hurt to have Indy

[fresh tangle]

Cool she’s a a hit away as she’s 1200 but good to know even an elite is still worth picking up.

[forest palm]

she has a retro, which gives her a lot of her value

[fresh tangle]

Ah so it’s her retro which really boosts her usability. Thanks, good to know.

[fresh tangle]

Ah standard triple CV bird shenanigans

[forest palm]

she's generally good for mobbing

[sweet delta]

Do you need another black shell? And independence isn't that useful either unless you want to pay all the retrofit costs for 4% avi and rld for your opsi carriers

[earnest flare]

is york2’s damage because of timing issue?

[sweet delta]

Due to not having an eagle union plane

[earnest flare]

ah i forgot that’s crazy thanks

[sweet delta]

What damage were you expecting out of her?

[earnest flare]

something similar to enty

[forest palm]

doesn't help that you're fighting a Light Armor target with a jank build

[earnest flare]

ok thanks, im bad about looking up the armor types and haven’t memorized them

[sweet delta]

Consider that Enty is 6 levels higher, oathed, has max skill, probably procced lucky e 100%, is being buffed by Yorkii, and is expected to do more damage than Yorkii all else being equal anyways

[earnest flare]

ok thanks!

[fresh tangle]

Yeah two of each. Got two white and a black

[wary timber]

So.... what's this radar good on anyways.

[sweet delta]

Then black first and then consider whether you actually need independence yet

[stark quiver]

if youre dying to planes, but mostly nothing

[sweet delta]

Niche, just don't use

[wary timber]

Welp imma build a ton of these to scrap. Why do I even have over 100 parts for this

[sweet delta]

Why would you do that

[wary timber]

Why not -

[sweet delta]

Whatever floats your boat

[stark quiver]

its kinda a stupid waste of time, considering the parts dont even take space

[earnest flare]

where do you get the planes that build junker

[sweet delta]

Ironblood tech box T3 or T2

[fresh tangle]

You don’t make resources building and scrapping. Just leave it

[wary timber]

U get general parts

[sweet delta]

500 coins for 1 aux plate is a deal?

[wary timber]

Plus I need a few pieces more to upgrade some steam catapults to +10

[stark quiver]

or heres a good idea, play the game and theyll appear

[fresh tangle]

Just sortie and do opsi you’ll get them that way

[wary timber]

[sweet delta]

[stark quiver]

you can get a good total of like 5 plates for 125 prints

[rose whale]

do we have maint today?

[plain saffron]

No

[fresh tangle]

Damn. Wanted the oil 😂

[slender heart]

Nagami-san. Why is alsace not shooting?

[sweet delta]

Not in range

[slender heart]

Kear reaches it just fine

[sweet delta]

Kear is flag

[slender heart]

OOOO

Arigato sensei

[frank pulsar]

bb have limit to their range...?

[sweet delta]

200 range iirc and whatever angle

[slender heart]

What do i do? I can't help it

[frank pulsar]

manual

[slender heart]

Shit

[frank pulsar]

youll have much better survivability if you manual for this meta anyway

[plain saffron]

50-200

So theorically if you somehow make a BB move forward they'll be useless

Before someone mentioned Richy in story battle that's custom made

[jaunty vault]

is that even richy richy

[plain saffron]

Well 2nd gun still work

[jaunty vault]

custom made means its not richy richy

[plain saffron]

Yeah

[jaunty vault]

[plain saffron]

The battle story all custom i think

[jaunty vault]

makes sense

[elfin hollow]

Is there a way that I've overlooked to make tb not constantly speak in operation siren?

[frank pulsar]

settings > turn on reduce tb guidance

[elfin hollow]

Guess I'm stupid ty I'll look again

Yup found it don't know how I missed that ty again

[earnest flare]

How many prototype/specialized gear upgrade parts are needed for +13

[frank pulsar]

for gold equip 135 t4 plates and 5 gold gear plate
for rainbow equip 360 t4 plates and 5 rainbow specialised gear plate

for purple just 35 t4 plate and 1 gold gear plate iirc

[zinc turret]

wow purple so cheap huh , should i +13 mk6 ?

[finite crag]

you physically cannot

[slender heart]

You can't

[zinc turret]

why ?

[slender heart]

+11 for purple

[zinc turret]

so is it worth it to +11 mk6 ?

[stark quiver]

no

[plain saffron]

Depends

Iirc yes?

[zinc turret]

its for my alsace

[plain saffron]

Bcs it's the 2nd best, but since mk7 craftable now i guess no?

[stark quiver]

its a little more oomph

[plain saffron]

+11 is cheap also

[slender heart]

I think it depends on how far you are from mk7, if it's still miles away might as well do it

[plain saffron]

And mk7 is expensive also

[stark quiver]

it depends how much resources u have ig

[plain saffron]

I think i have like 5 mk6 +11

[zinc turret]

aint i get all the plate back if i use mk6 to craft mk7 ? but i heard craft mk7 from the gold 406 better ...

[plain saffron]

Yes and yes

[slender heart]

It is better, because it's cheaper

[wind hazel]

realistically speaking i havent seen any situation where +11 make the difference compared to +10

[plain saffron]

Well it does in this meta if you use triple bb and is using mk6

[wind hazel]

would rather cope for more helena proc than +11 and still have to rely on the rng

[steady beacon]

Fwiw

[plain saffron]

Explain pls

[stark quiver]

whats that

[wind hazel]

numbers

[plain saffron]

But that's an image

[steady beacon]

I should do a

Drops random numbers
Doesn't explain
Leaves
bit

[tame jungle]

Is that +11 mk6 vs +10 mk7

[steady beacon]

Correct

[stark quiver]

gph probably has enough braincells to figure out

[steady beacon]

And I added an extra term to account for adding an extra 1% Siren Killer

[tame jungle]

Activated my inner

[plain saffron]

But that still need crafting mk7

[steady beacon]

But the TLDR is +10 Mk 7 still slightly edges out +11 Mk 6 in all circumstances

[stark quiver]

do +13 mk7

[plain saffron]

The original question is should someone +11 mk6

[wind hazel]

most would say it's not worth

[steady beacon]

Ye, which is fair... just I probably wouldn't +11 unless you intend to like
Eventually build one Mk 7 by Mk 6 route to regain your gold plate investment

[plain saffron]

So it's worth before but not anymore now?

[steady beacon]

Gold plates are too precious to be thrown on something you'll eventually replace imo, if there's no chance of regaining your investment

[wind hazel]

even before this it's not that worth

[stark quiver]

not worth bc, if youre optimizing that much, it means you have no better gear , try again next time w/ better gear 👍

[wind hazel]

unless like someone said, you're too rich with plates

if you're still +13ing stuff it's not worth

[calm rose]

Isnt it used to be worth cuz theres only a single 406mk7 and the 2nd best is +13 monarch gun?

[plain saffron]

Tell me how you're supposed to get better gear when mk7 is limited and mk6 is the 2nd best

*Ignoring monarch gun

[stark quiver]

fuck my phone overheated

[zinc turret]

pretty close , only 7 ur left

[plain saffron]

Iirc it used to be worth unless it's Saratoga shows up in my dream and gaslight me again

[steady beacon]

Oh, in the past, I +11'd my Mk 6
I think back when Mk 7 was gated, it wasn't necessarily a bad investment
And it's pretty lucky that it can be built from Mk 6 so I can regain my plates
But even if it couldn't, for those years missing the Mk 7 I think it was worth it

[slender heart]

That's pretty far lol, you have to +10 it remember?

[plain saffron]

+10 is cheap though

[zinc turret]

not if im broke

[chrome fox]

Hello, when does the current event end?

[steady beacon]

Does Sara often show up in your dreams to gaslight you?

[stark quiver]

how to get more grey aux plates

[plain saffron]

2-1

[wind hazel]

farm or open blue box and scrap the gear

[stark quiver]

7-10

[plain saffron]

Yes, sometimes it reveal me some footage also

[steady beacon]

July 10th or 11th, depending on your timezone
But 2359 July 10th by server time (GMT-7)

[chrome fox]

Ok thanks

4:59pm July 11th. Got it

[stark quiver]

good idea

[steady beacon]

It's useful to have a waifu who's also SecDef huh
Nagami gets all the juicy reveals in advance

[stark quiver]

does nagami care about collection

[slender heart]

Dude's pretty new (don't mind this, wifi ded)

[steady beacon]

Only collection of, by, and for Saratoga

[stark quiver]

owns all the pink hairs

[steady beacon]

PvPers speak of Sandyfication
Nagami dreams of Sarafication

[chrome fox]

Where in Opsi can I get UR gun designs?

[stark quiver]

rng

also port shop (3) and arbiter (1)

[slender heart]

Cats

[chrome fox]

When you say rng, which maps

[steady beacon]

And the uh...
Limited loggers if you haven't used them up yet

Any maps C3+
You basically have to fish in cat nodes and pray

[chrome fox]

;-; so that’s how I randomly got some UR plane design or something

[zinc turret]

i got one in c5 safezone lol .. but like ... 1 in 100 map

[zinc turret]

i mean ..u still get atleast 3 selector design each month from shop

[steady beacon]

Ye it's a pretty brutal three-step process
(1) Spawn a cat node
(2) Actually get a rare item
(3) It be a UR design of the kind you want

Abyssals can also drop UR designs at random, but pre sure not guaranteed except for I think C6

[chrome fox]

Well….. I have horrible rng so…..

Time to pray to the AL rng gods

[steady beacon]

... Oh nope, looking at the wiki rainbow designs are a chance for any Abyssal but none guaranteed...

It's the gold ordnance plan that's guaranteed specifically from C6 Abyssal

[chrome fox]

That’s even better news….

Welp

[steady beacon]

If it makes you feel any better
No matter how bad your RNG may be
Know that mine is probably worse

[chrome fox]

Wdym by probably…

[slender heart]

Well the point is we all going through that, experiencing it first hand. Just grind, don't think about it

[plain saffron]

for the UR prints
General print, guaranteed
3 from port shop monthly
1 from arbiter normal monthly
1 per onetime blue logger

Random type, rng to get
Abyssal
Cat nodes

[chrome fox]

Ok thanks

[lament bay]

on average how many days does it take to get 1 tenrai blueprint from research

[zinc turret]

depend on how much coin u dump

[tame jungle]

Plates*

[hollow gust]

It takes like 3 months for each weapon so 90/50

[tame jungle]

There’s some data collection site out there, you can probably calculate from that. Let me see if i can find it

[inland shoal]

If you focus on it ig like idk 2 or sth
It's pretty rng tho

[lament bay]

yeah i figured

[slender heart]

I second this, 2 months in my case

[steady beacon]

Idk how badly your RNG sucks
I just know mine sucks terribly

Like the rainbow prints is kinda a good example
2 months, even hyper-focused and taking every possible good research I get, is a pipe-dream that I've genuinely never achieved before

[chrome fox]

Same

[steady beacon]

Pre sure just short of 3 is the best I've ever had

[inland shoal]

I only achieved 2 months of not seeing a single UR gear print

[steady beacon]

In before the punchline is that this was during PR1

[tender lotus]

[inland shoal]

PR3. And I was done with ships so just focusing gear But no queue so a bit worse uptime

[steady beacon]

Ah, fair
God, I don't even want to remember how bad my research was pre-queue

[tender lotus]

Should i pick 8hrs oil commission?

[steady beacon]

You mean the Large-Scale Oil Extraction?
I mean, I personally do bc I'm chronically short of oil and at least it gives oil even if it takes forever
Unless you roll the emergency commissions with better oil returns (Gear Research or the gem escort ones) there is no permanently available comm, apart from the DREs, that gives better oil returns

[inland shoal]

Surely DRE is a commonly known abbreviation

[steady beacon]

Is it more or less confusing than "Indy" for Independence is my question

[inland shoal]

I only take it if I know I won't grind the next x hours, I don't like it taking the spot of potential urgent comms I might want to take for so long

Less, at least it's not sth you'd associate sth else than you mean with afaik

[steady beacon]

Fair
If I'm around, I always stagger my urgent comms anyway (assuming I even roll 4 I want to take)

Damn the people who get the urgent comms when they go to sleep

Incidentally
If not for everyone using Portland
I wonder if Indy for Independence would be more commonly used and accepted?
Since I'm pretty confident most people wouldn't even know who Indianapolis is if not for Portland...

Well, that and I guess the naval nerds

[tender lotus]

I forgot that Indianapolis exist

[fresh tangle]

Portland with Indy’s skill at lvl 1. “Is your Portland maxed?” Uhh yep 👀

[steady beacon]

[inland shoal]

Not like her other skill is much more impactful tbh

[fresh tangle]

Yeah I mean I’m not entirely sure it’s ever saved me especially when you’ve got unicorn. Makes me thing is there another ship you could level as unicorn effectively makes her defense skill pointless anyway or rather even less impactful

[sinful fern]

should universal bulins used to enhance other ships or in battle?

[steady beacon]

The former for all but those most committed to memes

[keen sable]

neither? unless by enhance you mean limit break

[zinc turret]

for limit break only

[fresh tangle]

My first day I did use a bulin in 1-3 😂 do not use them in combat they do nothing

[sinful fern]

so i should keep it at level 1 right

what about stats what do they mean
everything is shortened like AA so i cant understand what it means

[sharp socket]

game explains this too but AA is antiair

[sinful fern]

where can i find the in-game explaination?

[sharp socket]

tap anywhere on the stats part

[kind needle]

is gascogne still good at mobbing? (just finished her to d30 since I'm bored)

[inland shoal]

Meh

[south sequoia]

Oh that reminds me, how does nelson kai hold up vs gascogne in terms of mobbing

[keen sable]

If you must know, Increases her damage means 1% for every point. So +1 FP for a ship with 100 FP is only a 0.5% relative damage increase.

[hollow sail]

she's an old manual-oriented bote in a game where most people don't play manual. she's prob at her best in chapter 14 mob if manual

[vernal shoal]

hi is it possible to send my dock here and ask for team building help? im new

[sharp socket]

do it in a thread

[keen sable]

that's simply not true

gascogne is geometrically accurate. she is what she is.

[sharp socket]

just send your dock sorted by level excluding commons and rares in a thread and importantly state what content you’re trying to do

[hollow sail]

no idea what you mean with this

[vernal shoal]

need beginner help

[sharp socket]

i know that gascogne has the special +2 bb rld tech at 120

[steady beacon]

Because she gets bullet time with all her salvos, the geometric/physical accuracy is greater, compared to the second and third salvos of other battleships

[hollow sail]

i know that, but don't see how it makes what i said "not true"

[keen sable]

only bad manuallers need geometric assistance

[steady beacon]

Oops

[modern aurora]

What's the fleet comp this time against Wichita META?

[cobalt rapids]

kear yk2 helena and stuff

[modern aurora]

Kearsarge? Huh...

[south sequoia]

Whats so odd about kear?

[steady beacon]

Honestly, I kinda wish there were just one

Actually, in saying that, looks like Kear is the common denominator in all the fleet comps...

[wild elbow]

Is Elbing good

[cobalt rapids]

no

except for her tech

[wild elbow]

She is indeed shit, but her skills are decent

[wild elbow]

Any suggestions for her build

[cobalt rapids]

standard cl

[wild elbow]

Ok, I'll use Iron Blood tech

[cobalt rapids]

idk what that mean

just give her good guns and like any other light cruiser quad mags rudder and toolkit

[wild elbow]

Ok thx

[wary hawk]

Whats a yk2 alt for lil ent players?

[cobalt rapids]

uh bb fleet ig

[wary hawk]

That's fair, ty

[cobalt rapids]

idr if it was pre or post bz but if pre then just bz alsace kear

[wary hawk]

yea i figured bz

[steady beacon]

LE was added before B2 but very early on

If no B2 hmmmmm... I'm kinda fixed on Kear/Als but third slot I'm not so sure...
How much attention should I pay to working out LE alternatives?

[split umbra]

So I have gotten x3 sets of black & white shell & independence from Core shop. What else should I get next?

[wary hawk]

Yes please

[cobalt rapids]

/coredata ddg stuff/sub stuff/cv timing stuff

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[inland shoal]

I'd say Vanny, but ig that's also not an alternative for Lil E

[steady beacon]

It comes down to Soy or UvH I guess

[split umbra]

So the greens one just need copy each will do?

[steady beacon]

Well, I'll go and try something, I suppose...
Granted LE is supposed to have Bis II so
But I understand, of course, not everyone on LE started so early

[inland shoal]

Also a friend of mine cooked up a Kearless fleet (also w/o Helena cuz they hate Helena) that can kill and I'm beginning to wonder how much of a difference oath really makes for the Kear comps

[cobalt rapids]

i would start with cv timing stuff but 3 beacons and 3 manjuu ideally
sub stuff only if needed but ull want 3 pairs of hull + snorkel
ddg stuff only if needed aswell

[steady beacon]

Triple BB with Vanguard?

[split umbra]

Okay will do thanks!

[steady beacon]

Hmmm, interesting...
I will include it as a remark, at least...
I don't particularly like giving up the last possible screenclear, but for people without oathed Kear it may possibly work out better

[inland shoal]

I personally just have only 2 HVARs and none of the units oathed and my best result with a copy of a top fleet so far is like 1.2m with 3 Helena scans
Was too lazy to work out if there's any timing issues I could somehow work around tho

[steady beacon]

Is that the Alsace/YII/Kear 3-rotation comp?

[whole crypt]

what ships exactly?

[turbid dawn]

Is the only 'consistent' way to get SR boxed through the buying 15 a day? Because it feels like I only get 1 every 2-3 days and it just feels bad after going through over 300 SR boxes and getting only 3 good cats

[steady beacon]

I'm amazed you can go through 300 SR boxes and even get one good cat

[turbid dawn]

There's 1 perfect cat the other 2 are usable

[plain saffron]

There's opsi cat nodes

[turbid dawn]

I do fully complete OpSi every month

[inner delta]

that is your only consistent way yes

other than event shop

[plain saffron]

Technically they're consistent, 2+ per month

[inner delta]

yes they are

[turbid dawn]

Idk it just feels bad with how little you get in actually good ones while spending 18k a day on it

[inner delta]

yeah that is cat

until they update it, it will just be like that

[plain saffron]

[inner delta]

there's a reason why people say cats is shit and just forget about it

[plain saffron]

Get 2 lvl30 sr and be done with it

[turbid dawn]

I already have 1 of every SR cat max level, and most epics too

[cobalt rapids]

1 perfect cat in 300 boxes consider urself lucky

[steady beacon]

But I need my 40 RLD CV cats

[inner delta]

then go suffer

[steady beacon]

Been there, done that

[whole crypt]

still suffering

[plain saffron]

Imagine suffering

[sour osprey]

is there a benefit to 3*ing stages

[whole crypt]

3star rewards

[sour osprey]

all of mine are 2 star for some reason even though i killed everything

[whole crypt]

look at what the last star asks you to do

[sour osprey]

defeat escrot
fleet 8/10

[steady beacon]

So kill two more escort fleets then

[sour osprey]

but i already sank all the ships?? i don’t understand

[sour osprey]

oh it doesn’t have tocbe in a singular run?

[steady beacon]

Ah, the defeat all escort fleet req typically cannot be achieved in a single run

[whole crypt]

it's a cumulative counter, it's not the number you do in a single run

[sour osprey]

ahh thanks for the help, had no idea

[whole crypt]

later stages often require you to repeat more to fulfill that objective

[sour osprey]

is 3*ing also the way to unlock hard mode? i need it for a mission

[whole crypt]

yes
3-starring is also going to be most of your free gems

[sour osprey]

gotcha

[inland shoal]

What Pilica said Kear Yk2 Als

[cobalt rapids]

what vang

[shell willow]

is the exact % of xp transferred when feeding 1 cat to another known?

[whole crypt]

I thought you said kearless
Kearsarge/Yorktown II/Alsace is like the basic template now

[worldly pewter]

does this mean feeding the same cat is 50% more exp than feeding a different cat ?

[shell willow]

thx

it says 20% there

but idk if its 20% of total xp or the already reduced

[worldly pewter]

20% should be above 100% because i kinda felt the difference from the table above that sentences

so 120-70

[shell willow]

no shot its 120%

[cobalt rapids]

its not

[opaque galleon]

What are you on about lmao

[cobalt rapids]

should be 20% xp from the reduced

[sour osprey]

how do i change the character on my menu screen?

[opaque galleon]

It should be 70%*120%, ergo 84%

[worldly pewter]

did u test it ?

[shell willow]

[whole crypt]

icon on the top left corner in main screen to change your secretary, if that's what you mean

[frank pulsar]

press top right button
press secretary (leftmost slot gives affection to your secretary, with a max of 90)
press the 🔄 button at left side of your home screen to cycle through them after youve set them

[sour osprey]

tyvm!

[cobalt rapids]

mb its 90% no its not i was right i had the 10% extra xp skill..

[inland shoal]

Kearless is what someone else did with B2 Als Van and Brest Guam Ply or sth
Just for me Kear Yk2 Als with tank Helena Ply didn't work that well

[steady beacon]

[cobalt rapids]

idk what causes it to be off by 400 xp

[tame jungle]

meowfficer tax

perhaps the base given by meowfficer? idk the exact amount a lv1 gives

[worldly pewter]

or is it a base exp ?

[cobalt rapids]

oh yea the base

[worldly pewter]

i have this one from 2700 exp bisha

[sour osprey]

skills automatically activate by themselves right?

[worldly pewter]

it is too much to do everything on manual

[worldly pewter]

so why do i have 90% after reducing the 400 xp ?

[cobalt rapids]

does ur bisha have the 10% xp talent

also base doesnt get reduced

[cobalt rapids]

in my case its missing the 300 * 1.2 ( same cat ) * 1.1 ( xp talent ) = 396 so the calc fits

[worldly pewter]

the level 6 bisha has 3 regular skills

or it doesn't work the same on jp ?

[whole crypt]

it should be the same

[worldly pewter]

then i messed up the current exp on the lvl 6 bisha

[cobalt rapids]

if i have to put it in formula its
(base xp * same cat multiplier * xp talent multi ) + ( 0.7 * accumulated xp * same cat multiplier * xp talent multi )
where same cat multi is either 1.2 or 1
and xp talent multi is 1.1 or 1

[plain saffron]

If cn probably. But jp is same as en

[eternal basalt]

CN too for cats, they have differences for gear and ships though

Also note SR cats take more XP to level than Elite cats

[plain saffron]

Can't believe sara take longer to max in EN 😔

[worldly pewter]

[steady beacon]

Wouldn't you want to put in a little bit more effort for your darling waifu?

[plain saffron]

It gets tiring after 8th one

[elfin hollow]

poverty? or bench her?

[tame jungle]

not dev30 so questionable rn

[eternal basalt]

Bench till D30

[elfin hollow]

ok

[silver lintel]

D25 brest is pretty usable, i used her for w14/15 clear

[tame jungle]

ok

[shell willow]

thx guys for the testing ✌️

[whole crypt]

Brest is usable from 25 but the gear is really questionable, depends on where you are in the game may not be a real issue

[sour osprey]

what “banner” should i build on? i was told the event one wasn’t worth it, so do i just save my cubes for now

[elfin hollow]

some of the gear is from gear labs or something

[tame jungle]

how many cubes do you have

[whole crypt]

build on light once a day

[sour osprey]

32

[whole crypt]

research

[tame jungle]

then do what nntktt says

[finite crag]

do 1 light a day and just save until actual good events like a ur event for example

[sour osprey]

ty

[finite crag]

also cool pfp

[sour osprey]

how do i get more gear? i need anti-air guns because fleet keeps dying

nevermind, figured it out. i have a few packs lying around

[strange sphinx]

Aw man, is the Arbiter hard is hard?

I mean in terms of killing it in auto?

[finite crag]

If youre new, sure

[strange sphinx]

hmmm so it is advisable to manual it?

[jaunty vault]

i wouldn't advise it

[frank pulsar]

if you dont have enough dmg to kill it in the first place manual or auto wouldnt make a difference

[strange sphinx]

oh well

[jaunty vault]

manual could make a difference

[frank pulsar]

hard arbiter should be doable in like 4 or 5 months for new player, maybe earlier idr

[crisp estuary]

[frank pulsar]

even if you cant kill you should still attempt it to at least get some of the earlier milestone rewards

[fresh tangle]

Can Alsace crossfleet barrage hit planes?

[jaunty vault]

it shouldn't

[sour osprey]

are auxiliaries the only gear that can grant hp/evasion etc? bit confused reading a gearing guide rn, none of my guns seems to have stats aside from damage