gameplay-help

[arctic aspen]

all my years I was playing I was never once told that people shouldn't oath / that it affects timings

so when someone said not to oath ships I thought he was trolling

[stark quiver]

all or nothing, or adjust timings manually

[arctic aspen]

but the vanguard can be oathed freely right

[plain saffron]

Oath is more stats
More rld stats = cd changes
Need to readjust or not depends on existing timing

[stark quiver]

if it doesnt effect main fleet i think so, which i dont think affects vg

[plain saffron]

Just take a quick glace and readjust if needed

Vanguard not vanguards

[arctic aspen]

can any of the ships themselves be minmaxxed?

aka replaced

[plain saffron]

All looks good

[arctic aspen]

[stark quiver]

the main 2 damage dealing fleets look good, which is probably all youll use for bosses, 1 if not 2

[zinc turret]

did hood good at bossing ?

[sweet delta]

Worse than warspite against light and much worse against m/h

[patent pivot]

Alsace instead of Vanguard at the very least

[blissful hamlet]

Warspite good vs light

Her barrage is AP tho

[plain saffron]

Mfw the mobbing ship bad for bossing

[crimson glacier]

warspite really aint that good

[blissful hamlet]

Also t1 ship worse than t2 ship

[stark quiver]

tiers dont really matter in certain cases

[plain saffron]

You know ectl tier on main campaign only right

[zinc turret]

yeah like perseus tier ex for mob but suck at bossing

[crimson glacier]

suck at everything since uni is just better

[blissful hamlet]

[stark quiver]

ectl is just giving you a "general" idea on how each ship does, it changes a lot when you are faced with something past w12 n stuff, and basically everything else in game

[plain saffron]

Also doesn't Warkai have skill against dd or something

[stark quiver]

this is why gph on top

[sweet delta]

Serenity

[frank pulsar]

how big is the difference?

[silver lintel]

Mobbing should run hindy harbin unzen, change musashi to aquila for more speed

[stark quiver]

im pretty sure those fleets already delete everything, but if u wanna get down to the details..

[silver lintel]

U want harbin to kill stray production boat off center, also staggered torp

Fastest mobbing is prolly aquila bearn meta unicorn

[arctic aspen]

The mobbing one is a hybrid of mobbing and soloing strongholds

would your version be better at soloing a stronghold?

[silver lintel]

Pretty sure it can solo stronghold just fine

[jaunty vault]

doubt that

[plain saffron]

Depending on final boss skills triple cv may or may not solo it

[jaunty vault]

Depending on final boss skills hindy harb unzen may or may not die

[midnight bluff]

Can we go out and heal and come back to the fight for arbiter hard mode or is it not like normal mode

[jaunty vault]

its not like normal mode

no external healing

you get 4 fleets to kill it
if you cannot, stop wasting your time and do something else

and come back stronger

[midnight bluff]

ok thx

[south sequoia]

What armor this month

[stark quiver]

Light iirc

[stark quiver]

Also just a tip, after each battle with a fleet, you can go Home Screen then swap gear, so each fleet gets best gear going into each battle

[jaunty vault]

you dont need to go to homescreen to swap gear

[stark quiver]

Where to go?

I just press the home button then swap gear

[jaunty vault]

fleet button on mini map

or press and hold on ship icons on left side of screen

[tawdry topaz]

can someone help me with opsi fleet pls :prayge

[fervent hearth]

Is there a % chance of getting a specific ship from the PvP shop? Or is it like Mega random

I’ve been trying to get Duke of York and it’s been a bit Ive even been thinking of doing the archive at this point kek

[vale spindle]

Its mega random cause theres no guarantee but each gold ship has the same fixed percent chance of appearing in a gold ship slot

[cloud fractal]

Aww nuts. I just went to go look for an event store… no event store… RIP

[zinc turret]

well atleast the point easier to get than the previous event

u just need arround 9k oil to get 55k point

[cloud fractal]

I don’t often worry about the points so much. I was hoping to get Z47, but unless I can farm a significant number of cubes, she might slip past.

But I also want to save since Vanguard is rerunning in a bit, I think. Not sure how to farm a bunch of cubes in a short amount of time.

[rain vine]

if you are under or close to 400 cubes, just save
cubes are just playing daily, you get at least 168 cubes per month by playing every day

[zinc turret]

how long till next ur event ?

[graceful meteor]

New ur probly couple months, rerun dunno

[reef flume]

New UR will be in september. Next rerun UR should be in august probably, depends if in EN livestream they'll announce it

[zinc turret]

so roughly 1 month left huh for next ur event i guess i can reach 400 cube when ur event coome

[reef flume]

I have 432 cubes so I can reach a pity

[zinc turret]

im at 290 atm

[reef flume]

U can do it. Just do daily missions everyday and a lot of commissions (cuz sometimes appeare commissions where you may find cubes or a 10h commission where you get between 5 and 8 cubes)

[fiery swan]

how good are the new ships

[zinc turret]

average / decent

[unreal bloom]

Who else has good aa besides cheshire and sandy for ch13?

[jaunty vault]

well who do you have

[graceful meteor]

Guam/laff2 if you have them, can even run stuff like scylla or ham2

[unreal bloom]

Just tell me 4-5 ships, i will probablly have at least 1 of them. I need 1 more strong aa ship for my mob fleet.

[jaunty vault]

guam, laff2, shimanto, juneau

[unreal bloom]

Thx

[zinc turret]

i have none of them

[graceful meteor]

that said if you run enough cv, Sandy ches probly enough

[jaunty vault]

[unreal bloom]

I have 6 cv but mob fleet still struggles sometimes

[jaunty vault]

sandy chesh is more than enough if you run enough CV

[unreal bloom]

Sandy fleet is fine tho

[graceful meteor]

sound like gear/lvl issue

[unreal bloom]

Nah

Just comp issue. I never said i have cheshire

I just know she is good at aa

[graceful meteor]

Bruh, I did it with only sandy, shtty AA gun, hellcats
Sound like skill issue

[unreal bloom]

Bruh, try mobbing w13 with an ib frontline. I just did a test run to check if otto regensburg and heinrich can mob

[zinc turret]

why faction fleet tho

[graceful meteor]

I can just wiki search for highest aa, then run something like indep/uni/aqui and still beat

[eternal plinth]

Although it was on safe, I ran a full ib fleet with two rondo ships without aa guns, no healer, and barely managed to beat all the mob fleets so

[unreal bloom]

@eternal plinth yeah and this guys here yapping skill issue

I had the same performance as you but i am not satisfied

[eternal plinth]

Without good gear or high level w13 is a pain though

[unreal bloom]

I just wanna swap out heinrich for another cl probably and all will be fine

[calm rose]

W13 is full of plane, running IB vanguard is pain since their AA is 🤏

[unreal bloom]

Yeah, but surprisingly regensburg and magdeburg who are pretty shit according to a lot of people have good aa

My regensburg did like 80000 dmg in one run

[graceful meteor]

with the amount of good gears rn, even if you're wooga bunga with sub 200 AA vg, w13 just lul

[calm rose]

I mean there are alot btr choice. Dk why you're tryna run a full ib vanguard

[unreal bloom]

Hey, if it works like this why try smth else

[graceful meteor]

guy just doesn't accept skill issue lul

[inner delta]

[calm rose]

Well if you're willing to change, it'll be alot less painful

[polar raft]

Should I stop trying to pull for alvitr?

[calm rose]

How's your cube count

[unreal bloom]

Bro what skill issue? Are you dumb? I just did a blind run with an ib vanguard for mobbing and in one fight perseus died. So that means smth has to change and i will try smth else. Etf is wrong with you?

[polar raft]

80🌝

[unreal bloom]

Plus what pain are you talking about? My fleets did not struggle at all execpt that one unfortunate fight. Boss got blasted, everything else died

[calm rose]

Yea good time to stop. No point going all out for her

[inner delta]

that's just mean too many fighter leak and killing your backline, the iron blood vanguard doesn't have as good as aa

[polar raft]

Ok thx

[graceful meteor]

You ask for suggestion, I did reply, then you're start yapping about it, are you stupid or just cognitive fail to accept better solution

[inner delta]

can you 2 not

[cobalt rapids]

[unreal bloom]

Yeah ik, and i want to replace some vanguard ships. Never said i want it to remain full ib

[frank pulsar]

stella has fp tech right

[inner delta]

yea just follow what people suggested earlier sandy, juneu etc

[unreal bloom]

I asked for some good aa ships. That is all. Anything else is not what i asked about

[calm rose]

Eva

[frank pulsar]

there is list of tech on wiki right?

[graceful meteor]

You're the one start yapping about ib vg, it's easily doable but you cant do it, hence skill issue, you just can't accept you don't have the mean

[calm rose]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

[inner delta]

do you like trying to pick a fight everytime "skill issue this, skill issue that" just stop

like if you aren't happy don't answer

adi you need to stop replying to him too instead of become bigger issue

[unreal bloom]

You are probablly right.

[zinc turret]

please fight in pm

[unreal bloom]

It was just annoying because i came here to ask for advice and he starts bragging how easy was w13 for him

[frank pulsar]

no but w13 actually not too difficult, its probably doable with your ib vanguard
just need better aa gun setup, like two twin 90 + a roomba or smth

[unreal bloom]

I just want to swap heinrich with another cl

[inner delta]

ya just swap it with sandy

[unreal bloom]

She is carrying the boss fleet

[frank pulsar]

sandy aa good enough to carry one fleet, you can use your better aa gun in other fleet

[inner delta]

uh then juneau or smth

[unreal bloom]

Yeah

[frank pulsar]

try move to mob, you can get by with low aa if you can kill fast enough

[hard mesa]

if you want use ironblood ship, Z46 with Aug is probably one of good IB ship with good AA capabilties

[hollow gust]

Her aa is incredibly meh , just use nurnburg

[unreal bloom]

I dont want only ib

It's ok thanks y'all

[hollow gust]

If it's mob then your frontline doesn't need good aa , if it's boss bring a aa carry , Sandy Juneau , Cheshire etc

[wispy herald]

How is Eugen?

[hollow gust]

Poop, just use Portland

[wispy herald]

Ah

[frank pulsar]

decent, but not worth for new player
just use portland since you need to use her for newbie mission anyway

[wispy herald]

No wonder she's the 8 day login reward

[frank pulsar]

dev put her there cuz they know she good at attracting new player

[hollow gust]

Well most of the best ships are basically free

[frank pulsar]

but shes newbie trap

[echo axle]

But she's hot tho

[exotic wren]

What are the conditions for PR/DR faces to not appear again? Dev 30/FS5 if possible right?

And if say all of them are complete, no faces will appear again or all of them will appear again?

[hard mesa]

appear again

[exotic wren]

Oof

[zinc turret]

if face not appear again past dev 30 how to upgrade past dev 30 to fs5 ?

[exotic wren]

...oh so those that will appear again are the ones that aren't fs5 yet even if they don't have it

[inland shoal]

Smh so last month was CV BB then?
Guess I'll have to start asking for screenshots, keeping the order right seems to be hard

[inland shoal]

Uh no, just all of them, even if you have 3 million BPs they will still appear

[exotic wren]

Le wat, like if pr1 - 5 golds are fs5, their faces can still appear?

[inland shoal]

If you have enough prints for all the ships in the season to reach their current max, you can get faces for all the ships in the season

[south sequoia]

It will still appear if the ship has fs5 existing

If a ship has fs5 it will only stop appearing once you complete fs5

[exotic wren]

Oh

[inland shoal]

If your rainbow ships are not maxed, no
If your rainbow ships are maxed, yes
Season by season

[exotic wren]

In that case, if I manage to max out every ship before pr7 release, by that time only pr7 faces can appear right?

[inland shoal]

No

[exotic wren]

my brain won't compile, don't know why

[inland shoal]

The rate for face researches from a different season always stays the same anyway

[rain vine]

faces for season 1 and 2 will never show up unless you set research focus to them
cant remember if they expanded this to season 3

[whole crypt]

they did

and Soon™️ it'll extend to PR4

[inland shoal]

Let's just say only face researches exist. Season 1-3 thankfully don't appear anymore. 3 slots are reserved for your focus, let's say PR6. The other 2 are random, let's say you rolled a PR4 and a PR5 face (33% chance each).
Now PR6 faces you can roll depend on the ships you have maxed. If you have enough prints to max all the ships all faces can show up. If you have enough prints to max all the ships, but are still missing 2 Hindenburg prints you would get 3 Hinden faces in our example.
Max here can be dev30 or fs5 it doesn't matter, it just takes whatever max a ship currently has and eliminates that face from the pool if it is above its max and there is a ship in the same season that is not above its max

[exotic wren]

Bless you thorin for dumbing it down to me

[inland shoal]

Also the chance for the pool of faces aka to get any face research from a season also stays the same. Which means that the chance for a specific face gets greater the more ships from that season you already finished.

[inland shoal]

As long as it helps I'm happy to

Wait you were the provider of this information

[sharp socket]

which meta dossier should i do after i finish getting helena shards

[native robin]

to activate the skill of Frontier Medal (Auxiliary) ,do I have to make the carrier a flagship?

[plain saffron]

Does it say so. If not, then no

[sharp socket]

should i just do all of them a little bit to get chips

[plain saffron]

I guess do which have good fleet tech

[inner delta]

hiryuu and soryuu does

[sharp socket]

doesnt meta fleet tech only affect meta faction

[inner delta]

no

it affect everything

[crimson glacier]

there isnt any faction specific tech in the game

[south sequoia]

Yes, and please remember the passive only works in exercise
If you use it anywhere else its just a visually different steam catapult

[sharp socket]

oh i got misinformed/dementia again then

[inner delta]

are you thinking about tempesta

because that's the hull lock not faction

so you just confused them?

[plain saffron]

There is faction tech points, and fleet tech
Fleet tech affect all MLB shops

Faction tech points for the faction tech levels and dockyard

[sharp socket]

another question do i want soyuz or alsace to hit first

[unreal bloom]

What armor type is wichtia meta boss?

[inner delta]

light

[inner delta]

pre sure alsace

[sharp socket]

alr ill adjust their stuff then

[unreal bloom]

Is it worth pairing alsace mogador and marseillase?

[crimson glacier]

no

[inner delta]

alsace and mog pair is fine but marseillase isn't exactly a good ship

[unreal bloom]

I thought the buffs may be worth it but ok

[crimson glacier]

its fine pair if it happens naturally, but there isnt any reason to force them to be together

alsace doesnt care about other french ships at all

[unreal bloom]

Does she not increase their crit and they help her stack s2 faster?

[crimson glacier]

her s2 is irrelevant

and most frenchies are so bad that even with buffs they arent worth using

and the ones that are good are good even without it

[plain saffron]

Unless there's new op ships that can take advantage of it yeah it's not that relevant

[inland shoal]

I guess the thing about medal shop not refreshing into the same was just wrong?

[plain saffron]

I guess so

[crimson glacier]

its pointless to talk about IFs before it happens

[plain saffron]

Yes talking about if helena proc is pointless

[unreal bloom]

Is champagne gun better than twin 457?

[crimson glacier]

it does more dmg per shot and syncs with helena

[steady beacon]

Depends on the intended use

[blissful hamlet]

Only better if you have helena on your fleet

[crimson glacier]

thats not true

[blissful hamlet]

Explain then

[crimson glacier]

if you get same amount of shots then champ does more dmg

[blissful hamlet]

If 457 get more shots it'll do more damage

[crimson glacier]

obviously

[blissful hamlet]

[unreal bloom]

How does strategic search work? Is it like the auto search in campaign?

[steady beacon]

It's a tad more than that, because it also can allow you to move zones

[unreal bloom]

I would have liked it if you could also set what fleet should fight what type of enemy. Clearing 50 zones almost monthly feels like a chore

[crimson glacier]

it doesnt matter eventually

its normal that you use the same fleet 99% of the time in opsi

like only arbiter and some abyssals would need something else than the basic mobbing fleet

[unreal bloom]

For mobbing i use 2 more fleets for those minibosses or idk how to call them with resistances: a cv fleet and a bb fleet

The standard mobbing is perseus unicorn and rupprecht

[crimson glacier]

perseus is just bad there

mobbing fleet is basically just like any other fleet but it has unicorn

[rose whale]

does new PR always come with new fate for older PR ships?

[plain saffron]

Yes but rarely nowadays in meta fight etc unless you're new ish, but then why would you craft 3 457mm

[steady beacon]

Obsession

[steady beacon]

Uh... usually FS for the previous season's PRs get released like... a month-ish after a new season

[plain saffron]

Fate for previous season on EN anni

[steady beacon]

As for DRs, that's utterly random

[crimson glacier]

for previous season minus the DR

[plain saffron]

Coining for -2 on feb next year

[unreal bloom]

I mean i just threw her in for the preload. Is she that bad there? I didnt have any problems till now and clears are fast

[crimson glacier]

coz opsi is that easy

unicorn perseus is just really bad duo, too much preload

[inner delta]

too much preload in the front overkilling 1st wave

[crimson glacier]

and after preload perseus becomes one of the worst ships in the game

[plain saffron]

2 ships attack at same time
1st ship kill everything, 2nd ship does nothing

[unreal bloom]

They usually wipe 2 waves

[plain saffron]

What gear you're putting on them

Usually it's better to stagger a bit. Like preload and indep is good

[crimson glacier]

the thing about mob fleet isnt that you would struggle with basic trash

its that you make it strong enough to solo entire strongholds

[unreal bloom]

I mean the stagger is not intentional but perseus has a wyvern and the launch is like perseus uni perseus

[crimson glacier]

and it can do most abyssals too at that point

thats not stagger

[unreal bloom]

Yeah ik

It is just how the game works

[crimson glacier]

yeah but thats nothing like stagger

the launch order is irrelevant when its just non stop spam all the 3 launches

[unreal bloom]

Yeah but the torpedoes are naturally deleayed a bit. Enough to usually kill first and 1/2 or 2/3 of wave 2

Its not like 1 line of torps

[crimson glacier]

thats still not stagger

[plain saffron]

0.5s is not stagger

[unreal bloom]

You 2 are missing the point

If it dies does it matter if its stagger?

[plain saffron]

I get it, you still kill 2 wave

But how about the 3rd and more

[crimson glacier]

you are missing the point

[unreal bloom]

3rd is ruppy salvo

I dont care about auto strongholds with 1 fleet

[plain saffron]

When 1 preload and vanguard can kill 1st 2 and 2nd can do 3rd
And not all mobs are that easy

[finite crag]

there must be a reason you have to do this

[finite crag]

then you can literally use anything at that point

[unreal bloom]

Yeah cuz i saw once a guide that said to use 3 fleets

[plain saffron]

Only 1 is mob

[finite crag]

or you could simply kill it with 1

[unreal bloom]

Yeah

[plain saffron]

The rest are bosses fleet

[plain saffron]

Usually 1 mob, 1 CV, 1 BB, 1 CV/BB/crossfleet

[unreal bloom]

Thats what i have

But in strongholds i usually just go with the bb one to kill everything. Not saying its optimal but its the fleet i never worry about not being able to handle stuff

[plain saffron]

Anyway go try uni indep ruppy and uni percy ruppy and see for yourself

[unreal bloom]

Ok

[strange sphinx]

wew worst for me, Sara, Uni and Alsace

[lethal bolt]

Wanna ask, are there any ship in my dock I should start building?
And are there anyone I should start replacing in my fleet?

[crimson glacier]

you probably cant afford it but sandy retro is really strong

kazagumo is also good for some stuff but idk about her general usefulness

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm do JP have a news for new PR7 or same with en?

[tame jungle]

Kinda the same as EN

[plain saffron]

They announced it officially

[tame jungle]

Like it’s just this

[plain saffron]

Ouh EN also announced it

[inland shoal]

EN giving actually good advice?

[lethal bolt]

im only missing retrofit blueprints for her,should i build her now?

[crimson glacier]

do you really have the 50k gold to throw away too

[inland shoal]

Nvm it's the jp tl

[strange sphinx]

So to auto the daily missions in Opsi, you need to set the Strategic in to random secured zones

[lethal bolt]

not really,need 20k to mlb alsace and atleast 10k to complete retrofit tree for nelson, so just save for now?

[strange sphinx]

nvm, it sucks

[crimson glacier]

also do you have the microphone for her

[unreal bloom]

Is it normal for this loadout to do only 40k dmg vs wichita meta if she is light armor?

[inland shoal]

Nah you can't strat search dailies, just go to the respective zone and auto there

[valid apex]

I just want to ask, why do you lock multiple copy of same ship? you only need 1 unless you are doing some waifu stuff like equiping different skins and putting them in dorm at same time for viewing purposes

[crimson glacier]

if your fleet has awful setup then sure i guess

[unreal bloom]

Ok

So considering no other buffs it is normal

[crimson glacier]

that should do 300k+ on good fleet tho

[inland shoal]

If your vg dies very early sure

[crimson glacier]

why not just show your fleet

also bow is never good aug

carriers always use scepter

[unreal bloom]

Ok

[crimson glacier]

not that it makes a huge difference for this meta but just for the future

[lethal bolt]

i just lock them for the future when/if i start lbing them for collection

[plain saffron]

Fair enough, though auto retire can be setup to not do that

[lethal bolt]

not yet but could buy it this month

[lethal bolt]

its just really my instinct to lock my dupes that is used for doing lbing

[meager gyro]

is this guy good?

[crimson glacier]

its niche

[meager gyro]

what about this guy?

[crimson glacier]

also niche

the torp plane is weaker than ryuusei but its faster, so its used for some speed tuning setups

[meager gyro]

i have no clue what that is supposed to mean

[crimson glacier]

and that fighter has no bombs and cant do AA, but its good in opsi vs light and med single target

[unreal bloom]

I found the problem with yk2 dmg

But idk how to solve it completely

Changed the fleet a bit but the bigger problem is that kazagumo gets permalocked in chains and killed

[steady beacon]

I would avoid Kaza in the WichiM fight

And really any ARA without some pretty serious thought
It's Kear or bust it feels like

[unreal bloom]

Back to bb i guess

[whole crypt]

the plane launches torpedoes in a pattern than converges in on the target and is good for some bossing cases
this particular one launches less torps but is faster than the other options and we use it for timing
none of this is within what you need to worry about for now considering your current options

[crimson glacier]

Even without any support yk2 could do 200k easily I'd imagine

[unreal bloom]

No

Idk why but without sirius and kaza mine did shit

[steady beacon]

I mean, you can always go for hybrid
If you have Kear + YorkII, you can just slot a second BB instead of a CV

[crimson glacier]

If your front line dies then dmg is bad

[fresh tangle]

I learned this recently too haha

[unreal bloom]

Without a cv supporting frontline that doesnt die she still did shit

[steady beacon]

You can use Sirius tbf
Since her support is not tied to staying afloat
But you do need someone staying alive ofc

[crimson glacier]

are you using anyone to stop wichitas movement

[unreal bloom]

Yes

[crimson glacier]

and are you using that ship correctly

[unreal bloom]

But they are rockets so i dont think it matters

[crimson glacier]

ofc it matters lol

[unreal bloom]

Yes they sync

[crimson glacier]

they can miss just fine

[steady beacon]

Is your stop AvP? Implac?

Also, it's not a major thing (and definitely not the reason for a 40k flop), but switch York II's slots 1 and 3

[unreal bloom]

Avp

[steady beacon]

And third ship?

[unreal bloom]

Graf

[steady beacon]

Oh yikes

Granted, even if Graf is subpar at best, there's no particular reason for Yorktown flopping unless your vanguard gets wiped really early
Did you see how much time was left on the timer when the battle finished?

[unreal bloom]

So if i used a supporting vanguard with sirius and kazagumo they died pretty early and probably that is one of the problems. But even then she did 70k more than having a frontline that did not die but did not buff her. I will try to experiment more and i will bring some feedback

[crimson glacier]

70k is still like pathetic for yk2 standards

[unreal bloom]

But frontline died early

[crimson glacier]

this is like a midroll for me with sirius helena and kear

like even if you remove like 70% of her dmg

its still much higher

[unreal bloom]

Is 23.6 launch time good to slot in helena in the fleet? Or how should i improve it

[crimson glacier]

thats awful

[unreal bloom]

Idk how to improve it. All planes are 10 10 10 and it is just rocket planes

[crimson glacier]

you could use the beacon

[atomic abyss]

And get more fleet tech in the long run

[crimson glacier]

i wonder if you are only getting 2 launches in

[unreal bloom]

Ok so that totals 12+4% reduction on yk2

Thats 19.9

[cobalt rapids]

no supporting vanguards

[unreal bloom]

I dont have any more dailiy tries to test things aghhhh

[crisp estuary]

[unreal bloom]

Is helena meta light armor in boss battle? I can try there

[cobalt rapids]

yes shes light

[steady beacon]

Fair reasoning, but note that Helena META's fight is like
Light years removed from Wichita in terms of difficulty

[unreal bloom]

Another thing i forgot to mention

She is not max level yet

[cobalt rapids]

[unreal bloom]

But dmg is a lot better than vs wichita

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm rate

[cobalt rapids]

could be good or bad depending on content

[forest palm]

that's a build alright

[eager tide]

how many gold plates do you need to +13 rainbow gear???

[crimson glacier]

just know that scepter is basically always better than bow

[forest palm]

360

[stuck nexus]

i ba wha bruh, im after a few days grinding im still at lvl 39

[cobalt rapids]

360

[eager tide]

okay

[stuck nexus]

im using more oil to level up than actually plying

[whole crypt]

sounds normal

[frank pulsar]

this game is mostly time spent auto grinding same stage repeatedly anyway

[south sequoia]

Nothing wrong with that

[stuck nexus]

oh, good to hear that, somewhat comforting

[novel solstice]

If you finished everything in a week, you'd get bored and leave the game. Game design is all about trying to get you to spend more time in the game before you feel like you're done, because the moment you feel done you stop thinking about sending them $$$.

[whole crypt]

commander lv152 and just leveling fodder but game is still just mindless grinding

[strange sphinx]

Is Tenrai for Light armor or Heavy?

[stuck nexus]

ill never, spend money

[stuck nexus]

:D

[unreal bloom]

Last question for today. I dont have a lot of electrical components and i was wondering if it is better to get a lot and focus on crafting mk7s or to craft multiple flapjacks to have at least 3. Or french aa ur gun or sb3c or other stuff

[whole crypt]

F2P players are fairly common, nothing special about that, just much easier if you can drop a few bucks

[forest palm]

it should be the best available Dive Bomber you can get for all armor types

[whole crypt]

the only DB better for light is event limited
depending on your setup the DB slot might even be your timing adjustment slot anyway

[strange sphinx]

her UR Dive bomber?

[whole crypt]

not sure who you mean by her

[strange sphinx]

the UR DB in her event

Ad-1 skyraider

[whole crypt]

Yorktown II's event yeh

it's best for light/med single target

[strange sphinx]

ah it is for Light armor

[whole crypt]

Tenrai is still better for heavy and generic bombing

[strange sphinx]

ic

hmmmm why implacable doesn't need Tenrai?

[whole crypt]

she can use it

at the end of the day the bomber you choose depends on the enemy, you carrier setup and the timing you're going for

[frank pulsar]

she can use it, its just less effective as compared to other options cuz she stops enemies

[whole crypt]

you could end up using 0 rainbow DBs even if it's a heavy boss

[strange sphinx]

Yeah I'm using double Ryusei in implacable

well planning to push the W13

[whole crypt]

Implacable has a reload bonus if she uses a DB so you may not want a DB just to slow her down

campaign doesn't really use converging TB, usually just 1 slot in ch13+ to deal with command ships

[strange sphinx]

She is in boss fleet

[whole crypt]

well it works for her since she brings stop, converging TBs just usually aren't that much a thing for campaign otherwise

[strange sphinx]

oh well I guess Either I use Tenrai or stick with Ryusei Until I get Skyraider

[frank pulsar]

mk7 is not a high priority since the difference it and mk6 isnt bug enough to justify it
its better to have a mix of tigercats and flapjacks so that youre able to have more options when adjusting timings for cv sync
french ur aa gun is not needed outside w15, you can sit on it for as long as you want, experimental helldiver is not worth it as its identical to purple helldiver at +10
check /gearlab for infographic on prio

[split umbra]

So is there a 1:1 fleet setup that i can use to bring along 4 low lvl ships to lvl in 12-1? (or what fleet setup is good to lvl the most ships at a time)

[forest palm]

1:1 is pointless just use a full fleet

[inland shoal]

He doesn't mean true 1:1, just 1+2:1+2 carry

Anyway I'd still rather use 6 ships that need levels

[split umbra]

Ya I mean 1 main 1 vanguard that is strong enough to carry 6 ships for lvling

[novel solstice]

Depends on just how low the low level ships are. Unicorn in the backline to keep everyone healed plus five ships leveling up can work; Unicorn plus any good tank standing in front of the lower-level vanguards will be even better for leveling fragile low level ships.

I usually just throw some books and dorm time at the low level ships though, and then run six things I want to level up. No wasted XP that way.

[whole crypt]

Unicorn + a good tank

[split umbra]

About lvl 70+ ships, O is 1 unicorn enough? I been pairing it with NJ

[crimson glacier]

i just use 6 random ships

[whole crypt]

if 70s Unicorn alone isn't enough

[split umbra]

Okay then roughly around what lvl can I change to a solo unicorn + a good tank (any recommendation?)

[inland shoal]

I just use 6 random ships at >90~100

[hallow iron]

Is this to farm 12-1??do i need to gear those 6 ships?

[whole crypt]

of course you'll need to gear them

[jaunty vault]

i think uni + good tank vanguard can easily handle 12-1 with the other 4 being lvl70
unless you wanna solo the entire map(mob+boss)

[hallow iron]

What about if I use unicorn +tank, do I need to gear the 4 ship?

[whole crypt]

preferably

[inland shoal]

Ships without gear just suck hard

[whole crypt]

at least give them toolkits so they don't die

[novel solstice]

You don't need to have perfect gear on them, but at least give them something decent.
Toolboxes and rudders will go a long way to helping low level vanguards stay alive; good guns help a lot in actually killing enemies.

[split umbra]

Hmm okay , what about gear wise? Is there any good general setup?

[whole crypt]

having no AA will also weigh down the fleet

[forest palm]

gear is the most crucial aspect of this game

[whole crypt]

I can't give very exact estimates of what's needed since I don't have much chance to level anything below 100 without a main fleet carrying

[hallow iron]

Damnn how long have u played? Do u have 100% collection+

[fresh tangle]

I’ve been working on doing 12-1 with the help of @worldly pewter and @undone plover and nothing in 70s is surviving

[split umbra]

Oh okay no worries, I just kinda wanted to create extra set of gears just for leveling or I dont have to keep swapping them around

[inland shoal]

With high lvl uni and good tank?

And air superiority and good aa?

[fresh tangle]

Three mediocre IB main fleet for FdG and mediocre AA

Got it to 5 S rank escorts and A rank on the sixth

[whole crypt]

100% is fairly common among vets though, most folks who know what they're doing with at least 4 or 5 years in their pockets should have everything
I personally have been on JP since Oct 2017

[fresh tangle]

Been a fun experiment in just “how low can you go”

[whole crypt]

was that A a timeout or did you lose someone

[fresh tangle]

Bismark

[whole crypt]

because I think I can probably use Unicorn + Guam or Shimanto to carry all mob fights in 12-1

[silk helm]

How's this for absolute poverty? Should I even be using this ship

[fresh tangle]

I’ve got 125 unicorn but my vanguard is not Guam level and the debate is do you use 2 and unicorn or just wait for full main fleet for the FdG exp grind

[jaunty vault]

that doesnt look absolute poverty

[whole crypt]

if you can't survive with 3 KMS main fleet then you don't really have an option do you

[jaunty vault]

use a helldiver

[fresh tangle]

Bearn meta is a nice mobbing girl but need to enhance the gear to at least 6 I’d say preferably 8/10

[jaunty vault]

and enhance your gear

[fresh tangle]

Wait until I can put more books onto them so they aren’t level 80

[inland shoal]

Still don't have 15-4 lol
But yeah you can't rly compare Unicorn to 3 IB main fleets

[whole crypt]

or you can bring stronger vangaurd to make sure nothing leaks

[hallow iron]

Ancient 7 years 💀, thx 4 sharing, i like a game where people can stay for yearsss, kinda tells me game is doing something right

[silk helm]

ty all

[whole crypt]

well it depends on the player, I personally don't really look for new games to play and I like afking AL

[fresh tangle]

Yeah working on tweaking vanguard atm to prevent leakage. Thuringen just kind of folds when she’s touched.

[whole crypt]

same old (faction) lacks a healer for 3 main fleet grinds
Brest might help I guess, but generally need strong vanguards if whole main fleet under

[unreal bloom]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[silk helm]

do boss fleets usually have 2 cvs? or does it depend on content

[inland shoal]

Depends but in campaign often 2CV works well

[hallow iron]

Between ju-87 d4 and barracuda, which one would u use more for bearn meta?

[whole crypt]

if for own use do it in #bot-spam

[jaunty vault]

different planes for different situations
but bearnM is more of a mob ship which means barracuda would be used more since its a mobbing TB

[hallow iron]

Can i assume ju to be boss plane?

[jaunty vault]

kinda

[hallow iron]

Is it cause it's converging?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[hallow iron]

Parallel for mob converging for boss

[jaunty vault]

for converging TBs you want the enemy to be stationery

[hallow iron]

Noted and thanks

[split umbra]

So when will I be able to get San Diego from the medal shop? Is the rotation random every month? (im in little enterprise server)

[plain saffron]

random yes

[digital cloud]

How do I clear chapter 9

[whole crypt]

depends on what trouble you have with it

[digital cloud]

Probably leveled the wrong units / not building my team correctly

[keen sable]

Generally underleveled but also bad

[digital cloud]

Yeah I know I'm just not able to figure out all the intricacies of this game since I started playing in 2018

[frank pulsar]

starter fleet like this is capable of one fleeting it

[digital cloud]

Okay.... I just need all those gold equips

[keen sable]

Your food is touching

[frank pulsar]

theyre all obtainable from boxes

[strange sphinx]

Imagine Sara have unique aug while laffey doesn't

[keen sable]

Do you have a boss fleet? If so, which one?

[frank pulsar]

laffey aug isnt worth it

shes replaced way too quickly for it to be worth

[digital cloud]

I don't know how to build a fleet for bosses haha

[whole crypt]

unique augs are expensive and you had to choose then Saratoga's is more valuable

[keen sable]

They have a compulsion to not mix hull types

[frank pulsar]

[strange sphinx]

couldn't be me, No one will follow me anyway, Kinda stuck in W7 with 125 Ships in both fleet because of laziness

[fresh tangle]

I keep forgetting to get laffey’s unique and keep making other generic augments 😂

[strange sphinx]

Oh well Pushing W13... DON'T HAVE OIL

hmmm is it worth to get the new Gold DD gun from Royal navy for my Shimakaze?

[raven hare]

which BB should i put this gun on?

[silk helm]

I just beat this boss but it took me like 20 tries. R ppl able to beat it in one battle?

[keen sable]

You should probably make a thread so you can post lots of pictures of what you have and get detailed help

[keen sable]

Generally not musashi and gangut.

[stuck nexus]

ill maybe, spend money

[worldly pewter]

is that the normal arbiter ?

[whole crypt]

depends™️

[silk helm]

not sure what an arbiter is... but it dealt so much damage lol

[strange sphinx]

is it C6 Boss though

[frank pulsar]

yoru adaptability is very low thats why

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Arbiter

[strange sphinx]

Do tell the level of the enemy

[worldly pewter]

if u have weak fleets don't try hard fights with low tuning

[silk helm]

114

[raven hare]

if you need more info i have nj, fate sim V fdg and alsace, all level 125

[whole crypt]

fleet doesn't look that great either

[keen sable]

Is that a 4, 5, 6 but either way adapts seem a bit low. You're lucky it's not a healer.

[whole crypt]

depends on what you're fighting too, not just the ships you're using

[raven hare]

can you list the different use cases for that gun and some situations that i should and shouldn't use it?

[silk helm]

yeah i waas kinda locked into my fleet and couldn't change. what is adapts and tuning?

oh wait is that like the buffs and stuff?

[tame jungle]

Check equipment guide (do /equip in #bot-spam)

[whole crypt]

generally? PvP and ch14 and 15 mobbing. specifically maybe the odd META that likes the timing

[frank pulsar]

this is tuning

[slow spoke]

is it possible for old units to get retrofit upgrades

[frank pulsar]

you need 203/203/155 or smth like that before you attempt arbiter

[whole crypt]

you can do with less if fleets are good

[silk helm]

im poverty

[slow spoke]

i ask this as a Sheffield enjoyer

[silk helm]

wait so the thing i was facing wasn't an arbiter right?

[frank pulsar]

i think thats an enforcer

[silk helm]

im so cooked

[plain saffron]

yes it's the blue logger

you can left and come back but it will reset the HP

[silk helm]

well i beat it after using all my healing kits i know now to create a better fleet + get more adapt before i try another one

[undone plover]

It usually is the old ships that get retrofits
Latest being colorado
So it definitely is possible
I wouldnt hold my breath for it tho
They dont do retrofits very often

[inland shoal]

Surely Maryland next

[digital cloud]

Helping cleanears

[forest palm]

would just laugh if they retro Mutsu, or Nagato

[sinful escarp]

Nagato II

[slow spoke]

I see... and how far behind are global servers compared to JP

[forest palm]

not at all

the major servers are on parity

[plain saffron]

14 hours

[slow spoke]

Then where can I get Sheffield Meta

[plain saffron]

you need to wait for them to add a way to get past purple METAs

[slow spoke]

?

[undone plover]

Iirc it is only hms eskimo that is not archived in global so far
Otherwise we are on par with the rest

[plain saffron]

you need to wait for them to add a way to get Sheffield Meta after she was released for limited time long time ago

[fresh tangle]

Did Colorado retrofit actually make her more useful?

[slow spoke]

Oh I see

[plain saffron]

she will become permanent eventually, the question is when and how

[slow spoke]

Pretty lame how they didn't give her a rarity upgrade but still made her limited

[plain saffron]

pretty much almost all ships are time limited

then rerun, and permanent

some skips rerun part

[strange sphinx]

if will be funny if they retrofit Enterprise

[slow spoke]

Alright

[plain saffron]

before someone mentions PR ships that's why i said almost

[forest palm]

pretty sure the devs have discussed making Cruise Ship Meta permanently available, but not any indication of when they would implement that

[strange sphinx]

mah girl, the face of AL yet not ship, nor upgrade

[plain saffron]

she's still relevant enough. also she's only poster for EN

others have Sara :sarawink: as poster

[slow spoke]

Still working on base sheffy but I want them all

Even micro

[plain saffron]

it's been so long so might be anytime
also it's muse not micro

[forest palm]

Enterprise will stay relevant as they release newer gear

actual good game design is wild

[plain saffron]

i'm tired of enterprise

[patent pivot]

They already released a second enterprise

She just happens to be a British light cruiser

[forest palm]

and she far intents, and purposes is forgotten

[plain saffron]

but she doesn't have II in her name that's why she's bad

[late flame]

ngl i forgor hms enty exists

[sharp socket]

is there a meta ship that isnt useless

[worldly pewter]

so u were attempting it with the toll of war debuff each time ?

[silk helm]

yes.

idk man i just wanted to be done with it

[worldly pewter]

yeah don't do that in future

[vagrant spoke]

After I’m done with pr4, should I do pr5 or pr6?

[rapid grail]

try PR6 for a while, though i would prefer to look for what PR7 has in store next week0

[keen sable]

I guess you could try to sneak a catchup out of 5 but is D30 harbin really that useful?

[vagrant spoke]

Ehh I thought it would be whether plymouth vs hindenburg

[keen sable]

7 is coming

[vagrant spoke]

How soon

[rapid grail]

july 11 or smth, news will be disseminated in the meantime

[undone plover]

5 would be better than 6 tbh
Unless u are very close to dev30 shimanto or sth like that

[keen sable]

soon™

[silk helm]

Anyone know the enemy level in this stage

[keen sable]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Abyssal

[rapid grail]

lvl 115 or smth.

[silk helm]

ahhhhhhhhh

[worldly pewter]

c4 are around 100

[keen sable]

imo don't do it. sort out your ops fleets first

[silk helm]

yessir 🫡

[worldly pewter]

that is c6

[undone plover]

Besides level make sure when fighting abyssals you are using the right gear for their armor
Although it u started recently u will probably just have the mk6 bb gun to use

[viscid swift]

Considering JP has already dropped a teaser, I think my prediction is pretty much apot on

[keen sable]

it's 112...

[worldly pewter]

oh he meant the abyssal

[balmy matrix]

Should i craft flapjack or ju d4 first?

[worldly pewter]

also know how to clear the toll of war instead of depleting the potential vouchers

[viscid swift]

Ju-87d

[small linden]

Is there an updated core data shop guide? Need it for a friend who recently started playing.

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /coredata

[balmy matrix]

Around 3 for cv fleet yes?

[keen sable]

you can probably only get away with 1 before wyvern

[viscid swift]

Depends on your syncing needs

[silk helm]

i was scared i was gunna lose my progress if i went to a port

[keen sable]

you will on abyssals

[worldly pewter]

it doesn't matter of it was the file zone

[balmy matrix]

I can't even make any ur tho

[worldly pewter]

yeah abyssal u better get ready and know how to clear the toll

[keen sable]

less than a month if you do it right

[small linden]

Thank you.

[worldly pewter]

are we getting pr7 ships reveal one by one starting from tomorrow ?

[vale spindle]

who knows

They might just have a new ship at ax randomly like the past couple years

[worldly pewter]

so no pattern ?

[undone plover]

U cant really clear the toll debuff on abyssals (unless u use the repair command). U can clear low resolve by fighting the mobs

[keen sable]

the ship who must not be named

[worldly pewter]

oh i think u are right
the D ranking is what gets u toll right ?

[undone plover]

Which research season drops roomba?
Checking this on wiki and it doesnt list it
Or does any gear research have a chance?

[keen sable]

bottom

[undone plover]

Any ship dying gets the toll of war debuff

[keen sable]

actually umm

[plain saffron]

sunk -> toll of war, per ship. remove need port repait or regroup
lose -> low resolve, per fleet. remove need kill 1 enemy

toll of war disable skills
low resolve gives you debuff and prevent fighting boss at tier III

[silk helm]

i had both of those 😂

[undone plover]

U cant rly fight bosses with low resolve tho

[keen sable]

it's called Equipment Design and you just look at it.

[plain saffron]

smh wiki incomplete

[keen sable]

ima gunna let a green name know how i really feel

[worldly pewter]

[undone plover]

~~Some green names hide behind purple flair ~~

[inland shoal]

It's basically everything golden from tech boxes except mag and sub torps, with Reppü and Ryusei in exchange
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Equipment#Equipment_box_contents at the bottom

[meager gyro]

should i use z47? just got her

[undone plover]

Not worth the gold bulins
Save em for someone that will actually make a difference

[meager gyro]

ok

[silk helm]

Help Creating OpSi fleet~

[meager gyro]

i also crafted these guys, hope that wasnt a mistake

[plain saffron]

not a mistake

even if it's a mistake you only lose some coins

unless you crafted from gear lab...

[undone plover]

Ask before u craft next time if unsure
Or reference sam’s equip guide

[plain saffron]

also yeah stop asking AFTER you do something

[undone plover]

Not much point asking after making a mistake

[plain saffron]

ASK BEFOREEEEE

[meager gyro]

[plain saffron]

[novel condor]

Thought gph ded today

[crisp obsidian]

Hello. A couple of questions.

1. Is Z47 good and worth the time to lvl her up?
2. I hate golden T3 retrofit thingies and is it sensible to buy 1 of them from the medal shop to retrofit my unicorn.
3. Does my fleet need any improvements?
   (I'm lvl 62, currently on 7-3)

[viscid swift]

1. No
2. no, too expensive
3. eventually yes, whether or not you should right now is dependent on where you are and what you have

[plain saffron]

yes someone killed me

[novel condor]

Guess they didn't do a good job of that

[crisp obsidian]

What info should I provide to explain the 3rd point?

[novel condor]

Prob show your dock, filter out commons and rares

[viscid swift]

tell us where you are in the main campaign and show your SRs and Elites

[balmy matrix]

Between ryuusei or ju-87d they're basically same or one of them better?

[viscid swift]

they're timing sidegrades, along with the Saiun

[undone plover]

Ryuusei has better raw damage but u use either one to sync your carriers

[crisp obsidian]

Would it make more sense to create a thread so I won't flood the chat with my screenshots or 3 images won't hurt anyone?
(Also, as stated in the first question, I'm on the lvl 7-3 Unprepared of the main campaign.

[viscid swift]

yes

but any changes you do make to your fleet won't be until after you get to 9-1 in the main campaign

[forest palm]

mildly surprised they announced PR7 now, and not on the weekend, but it's all forseeable

[whole crypt]

no time for PR7

[crisp obsidian]

Then I'll return after getting to 9-1, also, I don't know how to create threads.

[viscid swift]

is this the part where I say I told you so

[forest palm]

the writing was on the wall

[viscid swift]

hover over a message and tap that icon

[whole crypt]

I'm not doubting, I just refuse to confirm non-announced info

[forest palm]

at least people can get the FP from Eskimo

[viscid swift]

finally I can stop saying we're just caught up in terms of new events

[undone plover]

You might reach a point where your commander level wont let you progress to chapter 9

At that point u can go to war archive and farm divergent chessboard (if u have the stat requirements)
Or passionate polaris
Those maps will have oil cap meaning they are more efficient to grind than maps before 9-1

But if u can progress to 9 just do that
@crisp obsidian

[unreal bloom]

Any tips on how to balance farming opsi with leveling up ships and also doing pr. I still need to finish hindenburg blueprints and then get anchorage kearsarge brest plymouth and others and i feel overwhelmed

[viscid swift]

farm OpSi when you run out of morale or oil

[whole crypt]

oh EN getting Eskimo?

[silk helm]

whats eskimo

[plain saffron]

The ship in #game-news

[forest palm]

a character that had to have its outfit revised cause burning someones ass is too much

[silk helm]

[plain saffron]

EN finally 95% catched up

The other 5% is weapons coeff and stat scaling ingame

[amber wharf]

does anyone know best fleet for 1 shoot lvl 15 witchia M?

[silk helm]

What yall choosing from here

[amber wharf]

Catapult

Btw how you can do that?

[silk helm]

no idea

[amber wharf]

[undone plover]

I think it is from the lvl 70 commander pack right?

[icy mountain]

i dont think its from the lvl70 commander pack

[silk helm]

ngl i have no idea what its from, maybe cruise thing?

i buiy like random stuff in the shop sometimes, maybe one of the packs

[whole crypt]

it's not cruise... but not like it matters where it's from

[icy mountain]

its the sr gear development pack

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure it's a paid pack somewhere

[icy mountain]

theres like 3 packs that contain those boxes

[whole crypt]

the best comps now are still just like 60%

[keen sable]

new commander support pack II or III

[whole crypt]

that explains why I have them lying around, not that I remember why I bought the packs

[keen sable]

i'm proud to help a leviathan

[high breach]

How fo I get more cubes than relying on the Homecoming event and my daily missions?

[strong tartan]

What is homecoming

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure I'm not that big a spender on this game

[high breach]

This one

[keen sable]

commissions, mail, events, lots of sources besides the 168 guaranteed

[strong tartan]

Oh

[high breach]

Thanks

Wdym by the "168 guaranteed " part?

[strong tartan]

168 cubes pretty much guaranteed each month if you play like daily

[keen sable]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#currency

[uncut oar]

all monthly guaranteed sources of cubes give you 168 cubes in total, assuming you get all login cubes etc

[high breach]

Oh yeah.

Forgot about that bc i didnt count

[lament bay]

how many flapjacks you need?

[whole crypt]

0

[lament bay]

how do you spend your t2 reports then

[keen sable]

are you actually asking what number you might want to have?

[lament bay]

well i think i might use them for ch15

[keen sable]

well there's like 11 possible fighter slots so...

[lament bay]

i have 2 already, idk what else has priority of test reports

[worldly pewter]

based on ur need

[lament bay]

is that for the support fleet as well?

i thought the purple plane was better on those

[high willow]

I just started the game, I’m only on chapter 3 rn. Can anyone give me some minor advice on what to do for the time being? I’m a bit lost

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[high willow]

Thanks!

[frigid linden]

I read that Shinano can equip any type of plane in the first slot, how do i do that?

[keen sable]

137, mogkai, izumo, 457, champy(??). not much actually. it's generally used to make old research gear

[soft raft]

she has to be MLB first

[frigid linden]

Ohhhh I see I see

[soft raft]

nvm she only has to be LB1
But you should still only be using her at MLB anyways

[keen sable]

plot wise, push for a few days and then focus on event

[high willow]

Which events? I did a few missions and got Foch META but that was it

[keen sable]

Hub, top right, then tap Operation. (there are other ways to get to the fighting part)

[vagrant spoke]

When is it worth 125 a ship?

[high willow]

Okay thanks. I’ll give it a go

[keen sable]

when it's not bad for starters

[vagrant spoke]

Fair enough, but what’s the difference between 120-125

[forest palm]

level advantage, and a negligible amount of stat points

[soft raft]

lvl 125 is mainly for W15 to be at most just 4 lvls underleveled compared to the enemy instead of like 9

[forest palm]

either way you'd 125 meta defining Ships more often than anything else

[keen sable]

tiny bit of stats and approximately +10% damage dealt and -10% damage taken

[vagrant spoke]

Is it 2% per level?

[forest palm]

yup, capped at 50%

[vagrant spoke]

Uhh anyone got like a quick tier list of all the top vanguard dps ships?

[whole crypt]

somethingsomething Hindenburg, Mogador, Unzen, Plymouth, DDGs, Harbin, Shimakaze, no particular order

[vagrant spoke]

Are the dps differences between them insignificant?

[finite crag]

depends on which of those ships youre comparing and where youre using them

[vagrant spoke]

Fair enough

[icy mountain]

is the new dd gun worth +13?

[clever sun]

Is hood better than amagi?

[soft raft]

I like her barrage more than Amagi's

[keen sable]

depends on your priorities

[icy mountain]

hm, ig tenrai +13 comes first

[keen sable]

probably but do they even conflict?

[icy mountain]

Wyvern or tenrai?

[whole crypt]

probably Tenrai because there's very little case where you'll use Wyvern for boss

[icy mountain]

I got limited number of rainbow stuff for now

[lament bay]

is 1 spearfish worth doing?

[soft raft]

not really worth the price

[whole crypt]

Spearfish is kind of low down the priority lane due to cost

[lament bay]

because of the other material cost?

[forest palm]

is it cost, or scarcity, or both

basically while the build path is pretty straightforward when looking at a Spearfish, the Ordinance needed to craft it is more scarce, while it's much simpler to just craft a Wyvern

[whole crypt]

ordnance report priority goes to flapjacks and 457/Mk7, potentially you'll want to save up for when Tenrai gets added too

[lament bay]

the rainbow HE gun? It wants design plans; the twin 457 if used you need it for all 3 bbs basically?

[soft raft]

you'd only want like at most 2, and they certainly wont be used in a majority of triple BB comps

[keen sable]

the prereqs

[forest palm]

you do not upgrade an MK6 to an MK7 btw

[whole crypt]

Mk7 has more than 1 craft path and the one that uses ordreps is "cheaper" than the other path

like I don't know how many ordnance reports you have on hand but it costs quite a number to make a spearfish

[lament bay]

i think i have 8 golden and 2 rainbow, so i was thinking for the future mostly

[whole crypt]

just think about it when you actually get there

[lament bay]

i only see the ones that take 9 and 11 designs

[soft raft]

that's not the only difference

[keen sable]

tap the mkd...

[whole crypt]

crafting from Mk6 costs a lot of electronics and 2 more rainbow designs
the MkD itself costs 6 gold ordnance reps

[lament bay]

yeah i mean it doesnt cost the rainbow ones (but i guess you consider the rainbow ones as a craft from golden ones)

[sudden briar]

Does AA damage count towards the victory screen damage counter

[keen sable]

total aa damage is divided proportional to aa stat or something like that

[forest palm]

yes, AA damage is mixed into the end screen

[whole crypt]

ah yes, copying "consistent" comps and then failing to oneshot on the first attempt...

[crisp wadi]

About pr7, is it better to go straight to 7 eventho just started 6 ?

[forest palm]

for now we don't know

[whole crypt]

depends on what actually comes in PR7

[forest palm]

gotta wait on the ships themselves, their skills, the potential gear

[south sequoia]

We also gotta wait for onfield tests too

And considering this is pr...

[whole crypt]

I'm mildly amused at how every single time I test these "consistent oneshot comp" and end up with 0 oneshots for that day

back to Agir and Helena tomorrow I guess

[forest palm]

idk PR6 looked mid initially, still is now

[whole crypt]

I do remember this one isn't too different with something I already tried, probably just different auxes and vanguard order... unless you're telling me Plymouth oath is the crux of it I'm just convinced people are cherry picking a couple of oneshots and pretend it's consistent enough

[wary timber]

What's good on the opsi supply shop again

[cobalt rapids]

loggers, plates, mats, ap boxes

[low eagle]

Is there any reward for ex?

[forest palm]

500 cog chips

[undone plover]

This might be a bit late but you should consult the /plus13 command

Gold plates are really scarce.

For planes prio is sth like 3xbf109> 4-6x converging TB (mix of ryuusei/junker/saiun) then tenrai

For main gun it is 3 x champy (or 2x champy + soyuz gun) > plymouth/mk7/georgia gun I believe

Rainbow gear +13 costs 3x gold gear and should probably never be the first thing u +13

[forest palm]

a sense of accomplishment, I guess

[low eagle]

That is for beating the first boss right?

[cobalt rapids]

win any 1 battle from the coalition battles

[lament bay]

whats the good of pr6 research? kearsarge for EU cv fleet?

[pulsar hornet]

What's the soyuz gun again?

[viscid swift]

The DRs and Shimanto basically

[undone plover]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(MK-1)#Type_3-0

[meager gyro]

when will i be able to do strongholds?

[stark quiver]

when your fleets are good enough

[worldly pewter]

when indeed

[meager gyro]

this good enough?

[eager mulch]

looks dead in W15

[meager gyro]

im at 11-3

[wispy pendant]

Guys, we're not talking w15, we talking w11

[worldly pewter]

stronghold isn't campaign

[wispy pendant]

It would be good to have a little more vanguard AA, but that is fine for clearing w12 mobs if you have decent enough gear.
Are you working on Anchorage or Agir yet?

[hollow gust]

That should shitstomp through w12 if you have enough gear

[undone plover]

Why are you guys answering for campaign when he asked about stronghold

[meager gyro]

i have both, anchorage is dev30

[undone plover]

What is your adapts like?

[worldly pewter]

last month he cleared one at 300 tuning after 7 resets

[meager gyro]

101 107 92, gonna try for 400 this month, maybe this helps

[vale spindle]

For everything except the main boss yes

[wispy pendant]

strongholds you can leave and re-enter after you heal up at dock... so almost anything can eventually clear strongholds... just not most stronghold bosses have a skill that turns healing into damage for you, so it's good to have a boss fleet that doesn't have any healing.

[vale spindle]

U don't need more than 203/203/156

[wispy pendant]

they are better than roon

[undone plover]

188-188-144 is enough for stronghold
And your fleet is good
Your gear I am not sure about

[vale spindle]

Game literally doesnt give u any benefits past that

[wispy pendant]

probably because reading comprehension, I didn't look up at the first question.

[meager gyro]

no gear for them

[undone plover]

U can replace roon and put her gear on anchor
But what level is anchor

[sweet delta]

I have a feeling you and other people have told him that 5 times already

[meager gyro]

but i need roon for hindenburg xp
105

[undone plover]

Do that when u finish the stronghold

Level 125 roon is prolly better tbh
Just keep her for now

[wispy pendant]

but you use the same gear you use on Roon?

[willow oasis]

So quick question, ive gotten to w12 and working my way through but how should i set up fleets if i want to level ships i want to use?

[meager gyro]

?

[sweet delta]

Unicorn plus 5 exp ships in mob, whatever in boss

[wispy pendant]

ie, you don't use Roon at the same time.

I feel like I'm falling into a trap again, where giving additional help is not actually productive or satisfying.

[sweet delta]

Don't try to fight mobs and boss with one fleet, set up your boss fleet for enemy boss

[viscid swift]

you don't even necessarily need Unicorn to carry the fleet anyway in W12

[willow oasis]

So as an example unicorn and like the rest lvl70-100 for mob fleet and then boss is whatever that can kill the boss with?

[sweet delta]

You have a keen eye to discern that trap correctly

Yes, but if you've just reached chapter 12 then level 70 might be too low for your level of gear. And you also must get the map to safe threat first

[wispy pendant]

are we talking w12 and strongholds at the same time? Nvm, we helping someone else now

[willow oasis]

Gotchya that makes sense

[lyric night]

which is the better path?

[sweet delta]

The bottom path is better for most people

Save 2 design plans and a lot of electronics

[lyric night]

Gotcha, thanks!

[meager gyro]

well i cant do either of them

[wispy pendant]

here we go again

[strange sphinx]

weeeee this guy again

[stone sluice]

If I got 3 stars on 15-3, can I beat 15-4? or is 15-4 way harder than 15-3?

[cobalt rapids]

harder but not much harder

if u 3* lethaled 15-3 ure more then rdy for 15-4

[keen sable]

11-3 still too hard

[gloomy mesa]

Is she better than her name suggests 😂?

[viscid swift]

Le Terrible is not (Le) terrible

[gloomy mesa]

What's her general use case?

[viscid swift]

she's basically the equivilent of a maxed out starter give or take

so mainly just tech

[gloomy mesa]

Dang it

[zinc turret]

kinda bad i guess since starter need purple bulin and farmable from almost everywhere

[viscid swift]

when I say maxed I mean with their unique augment

[keen sable]

french power creep. better than her sisters for some reason and worse than mog

[viscid swift]

and Le Terrible is DD FP so she could be worse

[gloomy mesa]

So she could replace épée ?

[viscid swift]

yes

[keen sable]

lots of ships can replace epee...

[gloomy mesa]

Well mean for Brest exp grind

At least she'd contribute more than épée

[worldly pewter]

wait how are u already on the brest grind ?

[stark quiver]

it wouldnt be wise to raise a ship just for exp grind, and if epee is like mlb n stuff then just use her

[viscid swift]

she would contribute exactly the same as Epee in that regard

[keen sable]

ehh epee is evasion
at the cost of 4 bulins for le terr there's cheaper stuff to start tech with but you also just gotta start somewhere

[gloomy mesa]

Lol

[gloomy mesa]

Let's try again. No tech for Anchorage so thanks to Alsace I could start Brest After unlocking roon

This fine lady any good?

[worldly pewter]

did u finish fdg agir haku ?

[gloomy mesa]

Hell no

[gloomy mesa]

Well guess I'll MLB her just for tech

[gloomy mesa]

Lol my IB tech is way worse than my USS

[worldly pewter]

this doesn't warrant u to jump series TBH unless simping

[cobalt rapids]

u should fix that instead of focusing on brest grind even if u have her unlocked at dev 0 she wont do anything for u

[gloomy mesa]

I mean... Should I ignore the shipyard?

[cobalt rapids]

just prio stuff that are usable in the near future instead

[stark quiver]

you should work towards getting tech if you dont have enough

[gloomy mesa]

How does one fix something that's based mostly on luck?😂

[cobalt rapids]

what is based on luck?

[gloomy mesa]

Don't I need to pull the ships for the tech first?

[cobalt rapids]

u can gather all ib tech for fdg from permanent available sources with 0 pulls

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms and if u follow this with 0 gold bulin invested on top

[worldly pewter]

false prejudice as always

[viscid swift]

we wouldn't reccomend anything if there was a huge amount of luck involved to set it up

[gloomy mesa]

Guess I'll ignore Brest

[heavy anvil]

Where do I get Sakura fleet tech

[gloomy mesa]

Luckily I didn't drop any blueprints on her yet.

[silk helm]

is there one for eagle union?

[stark quiver]

obtaining, mlbing, and 120(ing) sakura ships

[heavy anvil]

Just Kii/Kaga BB from war archives?

[viscid swift]

@heavy anvil , both of you give the table a look
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Tech_points_per_ship

[cobalt rapids]

Getting tech points for some factions (Eagle Union, Sakura Empire) are very easy. For others, its challenging. Below are the easiest ways you can get tech points for obscure factions.
no guide for sakura and eagle

[silk helm]

ohh okay i see. guess i'll just start mlb eagle union ships

[left cedar]

yo, iirc getting USS and IJN Tech with no events its like, u need every single ship mlb
for all PR ships

[silk helm]

well if i don't have anchorage unlocked. what should i do after fdg? avp? agir?

[heavy anvil]

Oh I know how to get fleet tech, it's just I've got enough to start kearsarge and Hindenburg but I can't even do kitakaze yet. I guess for now I pick up both the BBs from WA and then amagi from monthly medals

[viscid swift]

AvP, then Agir

[viscid swift]

EU, RN, and IJN tech is scattered all over the place

there is no one spot to farm like Divergent Chessbaord for IB, you just have to hunt down individual ships

[zinc turret]

but need to keep in mind not all ship give fleet tech

[sturdy flame]

hey guys, I decided to stop being lazy and finally push to world 15.

Could someone please give me a quick break down on the CV support system, do I just shove my best CVs in?

[viscid swift]

read the guide in #bot-spam /w15

[sturdy flame]

cheers

[verbal rivet]

Is this a horrible team

I own these is there anything I should just swap

[meager gyro]

how long does it take to get this?

[sleek flower]

a few hours

[meager gyro]

hm, then ill be able to craft this plane

[undone plover]

U will be better served by reading this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

Change the vanguard to the recommendation in that guide

Backline can be hood penny unicorn

[tame jungle]

no

[elfin hollow]

hello do we have a fleet composition for OpSi

[verbal rivet]

Thank you

[undone plover]

Mob fleet: unicorn+5 ships
BB boss fleet: triple BB, tank, helena, flex
CV boss fleet: triple CV (include ark royal/AvP/Implacable), tank, ARA ship, flex
Flex fleet

If u dont have enough ships for 4 fleets stick to 2 and use your campaign fleets

Any more specific open a thread and post dock

[silk helm]

🐐

[candid meteor]

dwhat ur gear should i go for next after buying the tenrais in proto, ply gun?

[undone plover]

Do you have the champy gun (triple 406/50 mle) from pr3?

U want 3 copies of that gun (300 protocore per month for 20 BP)
u need 75 prints total

Excess protocore can go into the ply gun

[candid meteor]

ok

[little tree]

hown do u get proto core

[undone plover]

Mainly by analyzing the combat data packs u get from rookie missions and cruise pass

U can get more by converting excess blueprints of dev30 ships
For example if roon is dev30 u can set her on catchup in the research academy and any new blueprints u get u can analyze for protocore
I recommend reading this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#catch-up_min_max

[gloomy mesa]

So ignore story for now and just farm chessboard?

[viscid swift]

since you need Iron Blood tech and are in W12 yes

[gloomy mesa]

Okay 👌🏾

Any specific stage you guys can recommend?

[viscid swift]

D4

[gloomy mesa]

How are my chances at 2:2

[viscid swift]

D4 has an oil cap

[gloomy mesa]

NVM than

Mogador is supposed to deal some decent damage, correct. Does she need some special gear for that?

[viscid swift]

not particularly

[gloomy mesa]

Hmm maybe her skill lvls or her lvl itself is too low

[eager mulch]

wtf is that

[candid meteor]

wow crpyto

[viscid swift]

<@&472236072743600148>

[little tree]

someones account got hacked

[inner delta]

/ban 751838043367014441

[odd root]

andras5639#0 got banned.

[candid meteor]

:D

[wispy pendant]

i never bought crypto, don't know if that is smart or dumb

[sweet delta]

Ban this virus too

[eager mulch]

[fathom sable]

Do i always want to take the research with higher rarity? also, there's 1.5k and 3k gold cost. Is it better to take the former?

[rocky fjord]

sometimes

[fervent hearth]

Archive doesn’t have oil cap? Or does it D3

[rocky fjord]

what's the armor order on EX

5 chinese medium ok

[icy mountain]

which one should i equip on sandy? twin 128 or a 155 kai?

[wispy crag]

Recently returned to playing after a long break (1000+ days lmao). Is anyone able to help me with some fleet building for opsi/w12 and w13? I'm beginning to get my ass beat and I only have older gear/ships

[rain vine]

start a thread and post your dock

[icy mountain]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[rain vine]

each level is 2%

[wispy crag]

W12+/OpSi Fleetbuilding help

[bold salmon]

which permanent stat should i focus first?

[wispy pendant]

fleet tech? probably BB and CV rld

[bold salmon]

ok thanks

[icy mountain]

is this okayish for w13?

[fervent hearth]

Anyone know how fast the archive chips charge?

[icy mountain]

ill attempt w13 once i lvl120 my anchorage

[wispy pendant]

3 per day?

[viscid swift]

Swap San Diego and Mogador

[icy mountain]

More planes when in boss? also what r the armor mods in w13?

[viscid swift]

First 3 are medium and Taiho and the Command ships are heavy armor