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[hollow gust]

13-14k

[keen sable]

13000

[stark quiver]

10k since no grind

[nova halo]

i only got like around 5k5

[viscid swift]

the issue is UN worded that very poorly
they already have Alvitr being worked up, so Hood is of somewhat less imediate value

[nova halo]

how tf did u guys have so much pts?

[hollow gust]

That's a major skill issue

[cobalt rapids]

grinding

[keen sable]

Alsace I believe not Alvitr. Alvitr would be new info to me

[viscid swift]

that is their current fleet

[wispy herald]

Yep that's me

[keen sable]

ok misremembered. alvitr hmm

[nova halo]

how can i grind for 14k exchange pts in ops?

[rain vine]

completing the entire map and buying only the important things from shops

[cobalt rapids]

use all ur ap

clear all shiny icons

[nova halo]

oh so that's the way

[wispy herald]

So, replace Penny with Hood, and give Hood all of Penny's weapons?

[keen sable]

~~still don't really like multiple bb starts ~~

[inland shoal]

I got 6.4k
Didn't do either Arbiter and only 2 strongholds and pretty much only played like 5 days of OpSi this month though, did fully get rid of 3k AP in the last day and do all my abyssals and hiddens though

[whole crypt]

the norm is closer to 12-13k, you don't need and shouldn't be spending 14k every month anyway

[viscid swift]

potentially

[nova halo]

ik but i always have like ~5k every month

[keen sable]

number one boost is likely harbiter

[hollow gust]

Well you can still get 14k by clearing shop , just gotta tryhard

[stark quiver]

What am I even supposed to buy in exchange shop, I kinda just buy all the loggers and the mission things

[whole crypt]

a lot of it is behind harb actually

[nova halo]

same, only buy exp packs and loggers

[whole crypt]

and also assuming you buy all and spend all AP proper

[clever sun]

Is new gold gun in event good?

[rain vine]

a lot easier when you arent burning coins on meta upgrade mats

[inland shoal]

Skill books, maybe help, loggers, maybe adapts, maybe coins

[whole crypt]

event deosn't have gun does it

[vale spindle]

gold TORP is good yes

[keen sable]

Four barrel 21 inch guns are not a real thing. torps are though

[whole crypt]

plates and lab materials

[nova halo]

i mean ops's exchange pts, not these currency

[stray jasper]

Is Foch META good? Been trying to keep up with the different tiers but haven't found much on her?

[rain vine]

no

[stray jasper]

HAHAHA okay that was quick

[clever sun]

Thanks, how many level it worth to upgrade at max?

[nova halo]

all elite metas are bad

[keen sable]

you didn't look down far enough

[stark quiver]

So what’s the arbiter boss armor this month

[zinc turret]

basically most purpol free meta is suck , specially from the pass

[cobalt rapids]

light + medium jelly

[elfin hollow]

is the new characters worth to get or naw

[rain vine]

no

[elfin hollow]

wait there a new torepdo?

[whole crypt]

but yeh if you clear up everything in OS proper and don't waste AP there's no reason to fall short of 10k vouchers each month

[keen sable]

best in the game?

[whole crypt]

the expendable items not including tuning shouldn't add to 10k each month

[humble gale]

What can I farm to get steam catapults?

[vale spindle]

Gold tech boxes

[weak turret]

If i have the fleets for coalition battle in the event, should I use coalition battle or solo, whats more efficient?

[stark quiver]

coalition gives more

[weak turret]

aight thx

[hot bobcat]

@keen sable so, i have my fleet one almost at max LB, just one more lb for helena and its done, should i begin to build up fleet 2 for funsies?

[eternal moth]

You'll need a second fleet eventually, so it's a good idea.

[hot bobcat]

Sweet i heard saratoga and nelson are good apparently for fleet two startup

[eternal moth]

Sounds like a good start to me.

If you aren't using her and have her, Enterprise would be a good third

[hot bobcat]

Oh shes in fleet one with unicorn and hood

(Hood is the flagship for fleet one)

[eternal moth]

Then I'd get Independence from core data and start on her retro. Once she's ready to go, move Enty from mob to boss and put Indep in

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't yet

[keen sable]

I wouldn't.

[eternal moth]

[viscid swift]

they have a lot of retrofits to work on still
Unicorn, Portland, starter, Nelson, Saratoga

not to mention shells still to get for the battleships

[whole crypt]

if you're already working Saratoga there's no a lot of reason to start on Independence yet
and yes you'll need to cores for shells too

Saratoga is a great mobber as well so while you're still using a BB in fleet Independence doesn't have any place to be slotted in

second fleet is going to take a while to set up anyway

[hot bobcat]

Unicorn and laffey are almost maxed out.on retrofits since i had so many blueprints in my depot i didnt know what to do with them till now

[whole crypt]

you won't be in a hurry to retrofit another DD soon, but I'm not sure if you'll have enough to do both Saratoga and Independence

[hot bobcat]

Rn im trying to get helena and portland to catch up with the other two on retrofits but laffey gobbled up the blueprints for them unfortunately

[keen sable]

it's the almost that takes the longest

[viscid swift]

I rather doubt it, not to mention you still have to get the vanguard sorted with the 2nd fleet

[whole crypt]

Portland is more important

[keen sable]

they don't use the same bp unless you mean you intentionally did X-1H

[hot bobcat]

I dont think i did

Last time i recall

[whole crypt]

Portland and Helena will take cruiser prints, if you don't have them you should start doing your hard modes on x-2

[keen sable]

Unicorn almost maxed out.on retrofits

[whole crypt]

well I don't know what he's missing for Unicorn, if it's the gold prints for the last nodes then x-4 first I guess

Helena's the only one who has no priority there anyway, it's going to take some time

[hot bobcat]

This is where im at so far

[whole crypt]

oh you're in for a long ride if you're missing T3 prints

[hot bobcat]

Yeah ;-;

[whole crypt]

just keep doing x-4 then

and make sure to check guild shop if prints show up

[hot bobcat]

I haven't even done any x-# numbers at all since i started playing

[whole crypt]

the only regular source of retrofit prints is hardmode

[sweet delta]

[hot bobcat]

Ah i see

[whole crypt]

and you'll need to do it anyway for core data

[hot bobcat]

Yeah which def what im gonna need for LB's for UR's also

[whole crypt]

that's spec cores

[hot bobcat]

Oh

[whole crypt]

there's a bunch of different currencies, core data is the one you buy shells, Independence, DDG gear and snorkels with

[weak turret]

is this mini event even that efficient for grinding through? There are no bonus coins right?

[whole crypt]

it's 🚮

[keen sable]

It's ok and wrong

[whole crypt]

get to a milestone you want to hit and forget the event exists

[weak turret]

Hmm ig i should probably stop around now, already got the improved magnet torps

when is it optimal to stop then?

[whole crypt]

10k is the ship
45k? is the last gold plates

[sweet delta]

Is this bonus coin a lie?

[whole crypt]

if you're hot about the rainbow books then 55k

[weak turret]

well i mean the clearing reward isnt nearly as high as if I say went to any other event or a campaign map

[keen sable]

personally? 55k

[whole crypt]

looks shite to me regardless

[weak turret]

yea to me that looks like no bonus coin clear reward XD (even if factually not true)

[whole crypt]

there is bonus coins, it's rubbish though

[keen sable]

is that solo?

[sweet delta]

Around 33% bonus is huge ||relative to single fleet||

[keen sable]

4:1 is 4:1

[whole crypt]

coalition, it's 3 fights notice there are 4 coin drops

but the amount is dogshit

[weak turret]

ah so its an ~80-90 coin bonus

[keen sable]

that doesn't prove anything just saying. solo could drop a bonus also

[forest palm]

[ember totem]

[weak turret]

well i am doing a coalition on 5x so i can screenshot what it drops but last round p sure it was trash

[keen sable]

i only collected number from coalition

it's approximately 4:1. it is what it is. good enough to not do long com

[whole crypt]

let me hit up a solo real quick but I don't see any bonus in the list...

[weak turret]

but this is gonna take a bit, i let my less used ships actually run for once

[whole crypt]

but the rates are rubbish regardless

[forest palm]

it's useless data when the pay out isn't worth the time

[weak turret]

i mean i could be grinding out 12-4 with this oil or ig pushing w13 now that sandy retrofit skills finally finished

[whole crypt]

I'm just wasting oil on my rally account

[weak turret]

sandy retrofit should it be on last slot of vanguard or middle? (with augment)

[whole crypt]

depends

[keen sable]

it's your game. if you hate free stuff then stop.

[whole crypt]

well bottom line you'll want more of the milestone rewards than just the torps

[weak turret]

but like it isnt free the opportunity cost is oil in 12-4 grinding

[keen sable]

you can never get more gold parts from 12-4 as an example. 2,000,000 oil later and still 0 gold parts

[whole crypt]

if you care about the opportunity cost do low cost on normal

that and yeh stuff in the reward list isn't going to drop from 12-4

[weak turret]

true

ngl i didnt really read the reward list past like 20 k so oops

[viscid swift]

you know that's literally -1 cube for each day you've not done hard node right?

[hot bobcat]

Oh i do the hard mode but only for that and the weeklys

[whole crypt]

reward list for solo mode hard

[hot bobcat]

But thats it

[viscid swift]

why....

[whole crypt]

well now you know, do all 3 daily, do it consistently, and do it on as high as you can for x-4 for CV prints

[keen sable]

so let's call solo 3.5:1?

[hot bobcat]

Tbh i think its bc i just waited on it as i was managing other stuff like the LB's and such

And the gear upgrades

[whole crypt]

the point isn't the coins anyway, you just want to get the points for milestone and gtfo

[keen sable]

that's fine. there's no event you're supposed to infinite farm anyway ~~except maybe hvar ~~

[vale apex]

what bb and dd to get from medal shop

[ivory crown]

i have a lot of gold bulins should i mlb any of these for fleet tech or just build a good ssr

[whole crypt]

well like I said if you care about cost opportunity of the oil cost in event do low cost normal

[forest palm]

Fran is an option

[whole crypt]

she even costs 1 bulin less because you have a dupe

[keen sable]

+1 dock space

[whole crypt]

Alabama is still an okay mobber but that kind of depends on what your other SR options are for bulin spend

[vale apex]

.

[whole crypt]

if you really just want USS tech then the BBs first

[ivory crown]

i can post rest in a sec

[keen sable]

aren't you past caring about medal shop hull specifics?

[whole crypt]

whatever you need > whatever you don't have

[vale apex]

huh

[vale apex]

but are any of them good besides hood

[whole crypt]

no

[vale apex]

alright

[whole crypt]

maybe the KMS ones for tech but that's about it

everything else in the pool is going to be tech/collection

[keen sable]

nagato was good 4 weeks ago and then she's not so good again

[viscid swift]

still makes no sense, it's just 3 runs a day and even if you weren't doing "the correct" map something in this case woud have been far prefferable to nothing

[whole crypt]

if you mean for Rodney M I wasn't using Nagato comp for like half the season

[rose whale]

any estimation for next batch of UR? 😄

[whole crypt]

new UR is most likely JP anniversary, we don't know about reruns

[viscid swift]

mid Spetember for the next new UR event, rerun, who knows

[whole crypt]

new UR schedule is pretty much fixed

[viscid swift]

it could be in July or maybe it won't drop until October

[rose whale]

I see, thanks

[ivory crown]

anything here to dev to spend gold bulins on or

[hot bobcat]

I just didnt really know what to do on it so i just saved on it for later

[viscid swift]

not partciularly, you can start looking into limit breaking ships for tech I guess

[viscid swift]

well now youy know don't

always do you 3 hard node attempts daily

[hot bobcat]

@viscid swift uhh what are the x levels again?

(Im a kinda dum tbh)

[cobalt rapids]

1 - dd
2 - cruiser
3 - battleship
4 - carrier

[hot bobcat]

I mean like this ;-; idk where to find the levels...

[uncut creek]

are the ur mag torps just a strict upgrade to the quad mags or does the lower reload influence it much?

[warm flax]

Do I just ignore the "or below" part?

[viscid swift]

check the wiki

[viscid swift]

they're sidegrade

[keen sable]

Ur mags do not put more torps onto a SINGLE target

[keen sable]

Go to a chapter. Tap hard

[rain vine]

X- means any world

[hot bobcat]

Oh

Alr

[heady pier]

ill have about 4 bullins this months reset what should i mlb? or should i save to vanguard?

[forest palm]

these are all the UR you have, yes?

[heady pier]

yea

[forest palm]

Shinano

[errant fog]

What's the best fleet comp for Wichita Meta fight? AP focus fleet, yes?

[cobalt rapids]

wichita is light armor

[heady pier]

i heard shinano needs other ships i think it was hakuryuu no?

[errant fog]

Eh... didnt the symbol shows CA

[cobalt rapids]

yea shes a light armor CA

[errant fog]

oh...... so the modifier is still light armor huh

So I guess USS backline comp?

[worldly pewter]

not need but it is a strong pair and also with kazagumo they make the ijn trio

[cobalt rapids]

ye

[heady pier]

so even to shes alone its better to mlb her right?

[worldly pewter]

i potentially would save until jp anni but it isn't a bad investment overall
also where is laffei

[heady pier]

well i kinda didnt want to play the game because i didnt know how to play it at that time so i just got guam from somewish and quit the game and returned at alsaces banner

[wary timber]

So.. is Z47 a good DD to use

[vale spindle]

yes

[heady pier]

whens that?

[vale spindle]

mid-late sept

[candid meteor]

should i mlb shimi or guam

[worldly pewter]

i'd save TBH u won't be having haku ready in 2 months and the jp anni might have something ( even though it is very low chance )
u have enough cores to buy 2 more ur bulins ?

[heady pier]

yea exactly 8k

[errant fog]

What's the best plane to fight light armor again? HVAR?

[warm flax]

Best fighter yes

[forest palm]

Guam is far more useful than Shimakaze

[worldly pewter]

save a little bit until 3 more weeks
if no vanguard rerun go for nano imo

[heady pier]

i thought we would have anni by august whats the difference with jp anni?

[heady pier]

yea thats fine i can save for now

[errant fog]

tqvm. For the vanguard, who should I put? Hindy with double HE and...?

[worldly pewter]

also note that ur ships can level to 120 without investing any bulins in them so u can start leveling her from now

[cobalt rapids]

vanguard dpses are cucked by chains

[candid meteor]

theres cn, jp, and global anni

[errant fog]

oh lmao. So just make sure they survive huh

[heady pier]

its the same event but different time lines i assume?

[cobalt rapids]

use a combination of helena + laffii/ply/aegir/harbin/guam/ancho/brest

[heady pier]

yeah ill farm her in 12-1 while i afk sometime

[errant fog]

noted. tq

[worldly pewter]

the major difference is the same topic that we are discussing now
ur ship vs non ur ship

[forest palm]

May 25(CN), Aug 16th(EN), Sept 14(JP)

[strange sphinx]

does flapjack good for light?

[heady pier]

what did cn get for their anni ?

[forest palm]

Alsace

[worldly pewter]

bossing ?

[viscid swift]

each Anni has it's own event but all servers get the event

[candid meteor]

all 3 servers get the same events at the same time, but a different event for each anni

[heady pier]

ahh okay so what you guys mean is global server will get 3 anni per year yeah?

[viscid swift]

the only things we don't get during each other's anniversery are the Anni handouts like the free path ring

[candid meteor]

yes all servers get 3 annis

[reef flume]

I wonder why all the others anniversaries we get ships of other factions but in JP anni we get only Sakura ships I don't understand this

[heady pier]

ahh ok thats makes sense since i didnt understand the concept of differences on annis

[wispy pendant]

don't think too hard

[heady pier]

not all anni banners have their UR ships right?

[forest palm]

almost like EN is a generalized term for the west, and encompasses more than the US

[keen sable]

EN does not historically align with the UR schedule

[candid meteor]

no

[heady pier]

so its ur-sr-ur? normally?

[stark quiver]

i believe its random

[vale spindle]

theres only URs in late feb, late may (cn anni), late sept (jp anni), and late december guaranteed
any other times its random

[candid meteor]

every cn and jp anni has a ur event, en dosnt

[forest palm]

that's exactly what we're talking about Sam

[vale spindle]

i know dates pog

[forest palm]

feel like we just caught up in an unnecessary dialog

[candid meteor]

oh well

[heady pier]

well alrighty thats what i needed to know so i have a good amount of time till sept

[forest palm]

could've contextualize it better but they're right

[keen sable]

never going to get yamato with that attitude

[heady pier]

is there an specific amount of URs in a year or is it also randomish?

[reef flume]

Lmao

[reef flume]

4 URs per year excluding reruns

[worldly pewter]

26k cores and 2 passes ( if u didn't get this one's )
so in theory u will have 10 bulins enough for 2 ships

[stark quiver]

at least 4 i think

[forest palm]

so far it's been 4 new gacha specific URs, not including any reruns, or URs in the event shops

[heady pier]

so 4 urs + reruns + event shop URs

[forest palm]

potential event shop URs, there's still no real pattern on them

[keen sable]

- reruns + archives - archives achieved

[silk helm]

omg i hope the next rerun is bismarck zwei

[worldly pewter]

what are these event shop urs ?

[forest palm]

lol no

Laffii, and Mog so far I believe

[viscid swift]

not even close

[worldly pewter]

bz is at least in a year from now

[reef flume]

UR Reruns only if they get announced in livestreams

[wispy pendant]

it'll be vanguard... Bis2 is not for a while

[silk helm]

[reef flume]

The order is:

Vanguard
Musashi
York2
Implacable
BisZwei

[wary timber]

Any tips on how to equip Z47? Like Z46 she has a extremely low FP

[viscid swift]

same as other DDs

that's what I'm using on her while she's being leveled

[sage igloo]

Ok thanks

[inland shoal]

How can this be the same as other DD when there's only one EM thing?

[desert tapir]

Sooo any notice on if we're getter more lab ships this year. Because I still have 84 BP before she's complete and I'm not really pulling her face card alot here

[candid meteor]

im so mad that i missed york 2 by 3 days, and have to wait a year for her

[viscid swift]

PR7 should drop next week

[heady pier]

is jp or cn ahead of us? if thats so do we know whats the upcomin events or banners i was kinda lookin EN and jps twitter accounts back to back and they post it too randomly

[reef flume]

Dw York2 reruns should be in december

[viscid swift]

nope, all 3 servers are caught up and in sync

[worldly pewter]

no one is ahead
the only game that i know that has this is arknights

[errant fog]

WAIT WHAT

[candid meteor]

i hope so

[keen sable]

So give her a gun with high fp

[lament bay]

how many +13 gear u need to max the multiplier bonus?

[desert tapir]

Welp I tried 🙃 thanks for the heads up

[polar venture]

Is alsace or saint louis iris libre?

[wary timber]

I ran out of aux equipment and aa guns Plus I'm running into planes so my entire aux equipment is just there cuz there's nothing else.

[viscid swift]

they both are

[worldly pewter]

how did u calculate that ?
december is the new event

[inland shoal]

Well we're definitely getting PR7 soon™
But you should probably see any news on that in #game-news not long after anyone else finds out about it

[reef flume]

Ofc if her rerun gets announced in livestream, which is why we don't have Vanguard rerun yet (UR reruns usually are announced in livestreams)

[keen sable]

2 to 7?

[reef flume]

Either december or beginning of January

[polar venture]

What iris libre vanguard ship should I use? I'm just trying to develop brest

[heady pier]

well arknights banner schedules been pretty messed up iirc

[lament bay]

how do you calculate it if it differs?

[errant fog]

Hmm.... Didnt reached 1mil with this experimental fleet... Who should I change with? There no prob with loadout, alr did hvar, HE focused gun and etc

[glacial heath]

Jeanne d'Arc?

[viscid swift]

have you actually taken a look at the time line and how reruns have been handled in the past?

[patent pivot]

@viscid swift Brest results

[viscid swift]

I use that

[silk helm]

if i click this will i get a virus

[viscid swift]

thank you

[worldly pewter]

in december there is the new event it is impossible to run a rerun in december
i asked about how did u calculate it
so it was about vanguard and musasi reruns

[patent pivot]

its a pdf, no

[candid meteor]

u wont i clciekd it

[polar venture]

Can you put saint louis in the vanguard?

[reef flume]

I did. However mine are just ramblings because usually URs reruns are announced in livestreams if they are announced. We could even get Vanguard rerun in november if they decides to announce her rerun in november

[unique lantern]

is this actually just an improved version or is there a drawback with the spread?

[reef flume]

Literally all URs reruns were announced in livestreams

[errant fog]

Sadly my French ribbon girl ia not leveled yet. But everyone else can be deployed. I'll try this fleet, tqvm

[viscid swift]

it is just a straight upgarde, no downsides

[worldly pewter]

she is a very bad tank by today's standard but can work as an alsace skill requirement in very niche cases
off tank for example

[candid meteor]

wait i just realised i actually missed implacable by 3 days, which make sit even worse

[reef flume]

I said only when I think it will be but mine are just ramblings

[polar venture]

How do I know if a ship is iris libre?

[reef flume]

She have FFNF before her name

[stark quiver]

google

[worldly pewter]

there is an ingame filter

[keen sable]

cap of 20%. pr ships have 15% already. probably a few other exceptional cases like KGV

[patent pivot]

hopefully that dispells any misinformation about brest or mog comps

[polar venture]

Where is the vanguard in the positions? I want brennus to be in vanguard position for example

[silk helm]

bro? screenshot?

[lament bay]

i see

[worldly pewter]

best screeshot i saw in a while

[keen sable]

all three on the right are vanguards

[stark quiver]

vanguard is the front 3 ships, not a position

[polar venture]

So why am I not getting credit in developing brest?

[keen sable]

because you are only using alsace for one?

[stark quiver]

you are, just a molecular amount

[keen sable]

did you finish combat data collection 1?

[reef flume]

Anyway if two ships have debuffs skills, does their debuffs stacks?

[polar venture]

It literally says 0%. I'm using brennus and alsace idk why it's going like this 😩

[candid meteor]

brest only gets exp from brennusfor 2nd and alsace for first

[stark quiver]

can u show me brest like the development screen

[worldly pewter]

i think when they don't they put it in the skill text

[reef flume]

I asked cuz I wanted to know if I could stack Helena's debuff with Mogador and Alsace's debuffs

[inland shoal]

Yes

[silk helm]

u gotta do the first one

[rain vine]

"Vanguard ships" = frontline

[keen sable]

@polar venture

[silk helm]

uniquename predicted the future

[inland shoal]

But that is cdc 1 he has open...

[candid meteor]

thats II

[polar venture]

No

[silk helm]

i think cdc1 is 1.2m

[stark quiver]

they can do both cuz alsace and brennus are both in fleet, but anyways, you are probably getting it, but a small ass amount

[inland shoal]

Wait it's just cutoff wtf game

[worldly pewter]

they don't go in parallel
u have to do them in succession

[zinc turret]

cdc 2 wont count till u finish cdc 1

[keen sable]

so finish cdc1...

[inland shoal]

Well they can still do both with Alsace and Brennus...just not at the same time

[silk helm]

🐌

[stark quiver]

if cdc 1 is also 0%, just use 3 iris backline and 2x thingy, gives like 4% per 3 12-1 runs

[silk helm]

thats a good strat, but i tried and i can't live without uni

[stark quiver]

uni good

[signal pollen]

What’s the missing quest asking me to do? I don’t understand.

[zinc turret]

if u have good cross fleet its doable to carry ur mobbing fleet lol

[keen sable]

uni bad. like a drug

[keen sable]

it's locked by day

[inland shoal]

CONVERT

[signal pollen]

I know it’s locked by the day, but I don’t know what the quest is asking me to do

[keen sable]

actually sorry

[signal pollen]

Oh. Thank you

[keen sable]

convert an augment after you +10 it

[signal pollen]

Thanks

[inland shoal]

Nah pretty sure it's just the stat "reroll" thing being called convert

That's why the reward is also more of the stones you need for that

[keen sable]

actually no. previous one gave what you need to convert an elite. that one gives unique aug which is too late to help.

[candid meteor]

do main fleet battles give more exp than whatever the one with the cruiser is called in campaign

[keen sable]

90% of the maps probably have more initial main 3* than escort 3* though

[zinc turret]

mvp = more exp

[elfin hollow]

should I do it? I already got the Tenrai

[fervent hearth]

duke of york still shows up in the pvp shop right?

[viscid swift]

have you got 2-3 champaign guns already?

[elfin hollow]

yes

[viscid swift]

sure then

[elfin hollow]

thx

[wispy pendant]

yes

[earnest flare]

I’m still missing shinano, is it worth doing heavy/special daily builds or just stick with light to save cubes? I have mlb NJ and 525 cubes

[viscid swift]

just stick to light

you'll get her in due time

[bright current]

was tehre a rerun of the skyraider?

[worldly pewter]

should be around next spring

[eager mulch]

source

[stark quiver]

trust me bro

[soft raft]

We are still quite a ways off from Yorktown II event rerun so no

[silk helm]

basically between now and vanguard is a not gunna be a rerun?

[candid meteor]

yes, vanguard is next rerun

[worldly pewter]

cheeky estimation

[neat junco]

is there a ranking of UR BB/CVs for opsi/w14+?

[wispy pendant]

w14 very different than w15... there is a bot command for w15 help

[frigid linden]

What weapon blueprint should I buy in Prototype store?

[worldly pewter]

the remaining 35 prints for the ply gun

[shell willow]

that was someone else

[worldly pewter]

champy gun >=tenrai >ply gun ~ georgia gun

[bleak shuttle]

I need help building 2 fleets, knowing who to raise and how i should be gearing them

[viscid swift]

start a thread and post your dock

[worldly pewter]

looks like cheeky answered him already

[short wagon]

gang whenever i use autosearch to farm 9-4 it alwasys uses boss fleet for mobs and mob fleet for boss

[forest palm]

did you check the roles tab

[fossil shard]

What’s the Roma event?

[keen sable]

go to Role and change it

[forest palm]

Aquilifer's Ballade

[soft raft]

damn that's crazy

[forest palm]

might as well call it Da Vinici event

[worldly pewter]

is that aquila event ?

[forest palm]

lol no

[worldly pewter]

[forest palm]

that's Daedalian Hymn

[remote yarrow]

Aquilifer =/ Aquila

[worldly pewter]

got bamboozled

[soft raft]

Aquila event already reran before I made the list, it's next to be archived but we dont know when

[forest palm]

which already reran

[short wagon]

ok

[shell willow]

is sea hornet having lower plane hp compared to like flapjacks an issue usually?

[eager mulch]

no

[forest palm]

its flight speed is however an issue

[shell willow]

how come

[forest palm]

so with the Flapjack, and Tigercat the flight speed is slower, and lingers on the screen more, which is better for AA

[worldly pewter]

i think as an interceptor fighers having lower plane speed is beneficial but also u need to factor in their hp too right ?

[eager mulch]

no

[shell willow]

oh damn, thats interesting

[eager mulch]

plane hp is mainly used for crash dmg calcs

[worldly pewter]

the fighters don't intercept during an airstrike ?

[eager mulch]

they do

[worldly pewter]

i thought the hp was basically their survivability not damage

[short wagon]

do i spend my free gems on more dockspace

[remote yarrow]

If you already got your 3rd dorm slot + 2nd floor go ahead

[short wagon]

yeah i got those

[soft raft]

You also dont craft Sea Hornet in the first place because it's pratically twice as expensive to make as Tigercat due to its direct pre-req plane being gear lab exclusive

[eager mulch]

timing

[short wagon]

how many dock expansions do i buy

[eager mulch]

all of it

[soft raft]

as many as you can buy
all future F2P gems you get is towards that with no exception

[remote yarrow]

I tend to stay at 30~35+ free dock space

[short wagon]

ok

[shell willow]

ahh i was just looking at vanguard event drop and considering i still only got 2 flapjacks i thought i could just farm the event

[short wagon]

i just bought like 70 dock spaces

would yall farm 9-1 9-2 9-3 or 9-4

[remote yarrow]

For what reason

[forest palm]

Seahornet is not something I'd recommend actively farming

[short wagon]

anchorag

[remote yarrow]

Nope

Get to W12 before you start grinding research/shipyard ships

[eager mulch]

i think Taz replied to the wrong person

[short wagon]

cuz like im doin wmth else rn and i just wanna afk
\

[eager mulch]

maybe not idr vang event drops

[soft raft]

it was the D2 SR gear drop in vanguard event

[eager mulch]

oh wtf seahornet I just EN’d so fucking hard

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

I thought Taz said Scharnhorst

[soft raft]

[shell willow]

lol

[remote yarrow]

I suggest you just try to push campaign or maybe Divergent Chessboard for IB Tech points if you haven't yet

[short wagon]

kk

[forest palm]

but, ya it's not worth farming D-2 for a Seahornet, it's just simpler to farm D-3 for points, and be done with the shop fast

[fossil shard]

Does the current event has a shop?

[soft raft]

Nope

[forest palm]

it does not

[remote yarrow]

Nope

[fossil shard]

Thank you all

[strange sphinx]

weww opsi is generous today

2 flap jack for my Yorktown II

[remote yarrow]

Cool? Blogging goes to #al-general tho

[strange sphinx]

hmmm is it advisable to clear the strong hold?

[inland shoal]

Yes

[strange sphinx]

oh well already cleared one, gonna do the other later

gonna buy more hidden

[grand solar]

I just saw they finally made a gun that was better for Ayanami than the 76mm AA gun. Is this true?

[viscid swift]

it is, but it's a very minor upgrade

[grand solar]

Well better is better.

[grizzled sun]

What’s the best vanguard dps from PR1?

[remote yarrow]

None of them to that much dmg honestly, but pick either Sanrui or Roon for IB tech points towards FdG

[viscid swift]

no one is remarkable in that department, whoever you choose is just gonna be tech in the end

[loud rover]

What should my next UR gear be from gear lab?

[remote yarrow]

Probably one or two more Wyverns

[rapid grail]

DD gun for DDs (though diminished due to Mog gun)
AA gun/s if you wanna clear W15 ASAP
Wyvern/s for convenience

[dim summit]

i've been dragging my feet on crafting rainbow gear since i get bored with OpSi quickly, what should i prioritize for w15? (i am 3/9 UR plane plans from Wyvern #1)

wait dude just asked my b

[soft raft]

eh you can only have one mog gun until Alsace reruns so Duck Gun kai still has some value

[frigid linden]

I finished W9, so what now?

[undone plover]

w10

[eager mulch]

W15

[agile sky]

is it worth to run 6-4 to do exp farm and yuudachi farm at the same time? Or should i just focus on one or the other?

[gloomy mesa]

Anything good?

[wispy pendant]

we have a gear guide

[gloomy mesa]

I mean it's not worth farming a Stage just because of a ship, until you hit w9 and unlock oil cap just farm the highest stage you can.

[wispy pendant]

the DDG retrofits are just as good as yuudachi, come back to yuudachi later for completion sake

[remote yarrow]

6-4 doesn't really give any exp tbh, if you are gonna farm for Yuudachi just 1:1 or use a low oil fleet instead, but don't do both at the same time, it will lend to wasting oil for really little exp return

[remote yarrow]

Quad Torp bad, Saiun good used for timing purposes, Agir gun good for CBs, Seafang is fine if you don't have any better fighters

[hollow gust]

Fire control is good broke people bb aux , and purple cat is purple cat

[gloomy mesa]

Thanks for advice

[signal pollen]

Does 5 staring an corrosion 6 siren op make is drop better loot

[soft raft]

Got no clue

[signal pollen]

I am in mad need of golden material for crafting :(

I don’t even know how I’m supposed to get 72 of them

[elfin hollow]

Keep farming

[signal pollen]

What do I farm? Corrosion 6 nodes?

[soft raft]

C5

[signal pollen]

Wait I can farm yuudachi 6-4

[remote yarrow]

If you already did eveything else, sure go farrm C5

[remote yarrow]

What does that have to do with gold mats?

[signal pollen]

So true. I didn’t do everything does c5 mean corrosion 5?

[soft raft]

yes

[signal pollen]

Okay thanks

[normal crane]

What gear should i use for Friedrich?

[soft raft]

Typical BB stuff, nothing special

[remote yarrow]

Standard BB gear check sam's guide in #bot-spam /equip

[normal crane]

Thankies

[forest palm]

mk6 + twin 150 + STAAG/any purple AA + Type 91 + FCR is the msot basic I can think of

[keen sable]

realistically everything with a funny symbol. ap dump is the worst source of anything

[sinful escarp]

is there a list of equipment that we can get from techboxes?

[eager mulch]

what if he means friedrich carl

[forest palm]

that's on them

[keen sable]

der Smol

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Equipment#Equipment_boxes

[sinful escarp]

thank you

[remote yarrow]

Scroll down a little bit

[keen sable]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Equipment#Equipment_box_contents

no need to scroll

[forest palm]

when it's one pass of the scroll wheel

[eager mulch]

some people dont have a scroll wheel

[exotic wren]

Sorry what

[forest palm]

what are we in the 90s with Macintosh 128ks?

[flint wyvern]

How do I get the augment module for u81?

[eager mulch]

you make it

[forest palm]

she has to be MLB first

[keen sable]

maybe you should practice with a different aug first

[flint wyvern]

Ohhh okayyy

[soft raft]

Not like Augs are really urgent anyways

[eager mulch]

nah man my sub min maxing plz understand

[forest palm]

[silk helm]

should i invest in izumo with the new aug? can she be used in w13+

[stark quiver]

pls dont

[viscid swift]

no particular reason to, she still get's outclassed by UR BBs

[silk helm]

what about if ur poverty (no ur bb)

[stone sluice]

For w15 support fleet. If I’m on budget and have no flapjacks for it, is it better to use 2 skyrockets or 2 fw-190 on each carrier, or better to mix skyrocket and fw-190?

[soft raft]

Just use Hood W/ Aug
And you frankly should at least be working on FdG by the time you're at W13

[slow gale]

is warspite and z47 good?

[silk helm]

ohhh okay cool yeah im funding fdg right now

[viscid swift]

I prefer a 50/50 split

[soft raft]

Complete dogshit and tech fodder respectively

[stark quiver]

warspite too expensive

[viscid swift]

no and not really

[silk helm]

well if i'm funding fdg is there a reason to invest gold into roon/izumo for fate sim?

[viscid swift]

no

[stark quiver]

for tech , even then not worth the time

[silk helm]

okie that'll help save some gold at least

[soft raft]

You don't get tech points from FS5 and Izumo isn't even a German ship

[stark quiver]

oh wait fs? no

[forest palm]

it's not even that Warspite is expensive she just aged like milk, no real future proofing whatsoever, she's only worth her 120 tech

[eager mulch]

warspite is hit tech right?

[viscid swift]

+2 hit yes

[eager mulch]

so shes not completely dogshit

[soft raft]

Yes her tech is her only saving grace, but if someone is asking if Warspite is good or not, then I doubt her +2 HIT is currently a high prio for them right now

[forest palm]

would have to wonder if a UE would fix the Corgi, but at that point she'd just be too expensive to justify

[eager mulch]

stronger asw

[soft raft]

BBV Conversion

[eager mulch]

bro shes already a bbv if you put an asw plane on her

[frigid linden]

What to do after W9

[soft raft]

get to W12

[livid thunder]

Hi! I’m working on my cv’s and I’d like to know what lineup would do more damage against bosses (like operation siren cause max difficulty still is a pain to me) . I was thinking of either :
Implacable + shinano + hakuryuu
Or
Implacable + Yorktown 2 + enterprise.

[viscid swift]

Both are competitive against medium armor

EU wins on light and Sakura on heavy

[soft raft]

As for campaign bosses, depends on context but definetly not Triple CV

[livid thunder]

May I ask why Sakura against heavy?

[sweet delta]

triple CV campaign bossing?

[sweet delta]

Sakura have more torpedo bombers, eagle have more fighters

[livid thunder]

Would that be a problem ?

[livid thunder]

Ohh okay… your talking about their barrages right?

[viscid swift]

Because they can equip more torpedo bombere

[livid thunder]

Oh okay

[sweet delta]

Both barrages and equipped planes

[livid thunder]

So torp >> bombs against heavy but torp << bombs against light

[viscid swift]

No, torpedo bombers are worse than Rocket fighters against light and medium armor

[sweet delta]

Torps and bombs favor anti-heavy and medium.
Rockets favor anti-light or medium

[livid thunder]

So these thing right

[sweet delta]

https://renhex.github.io/alft/46
From top to bottom, sample gear for bosses with heavy, medium, light, medium, medium, light, or light armor

[sharp socket]

why is T3 gold quintorp better than T2 purple quadmagtorp

[sweet delta]

Good question

[livid thunder]

Stats I suppose?

[sharp socket]

the purple quadmagtorp can actually hit things

[livid thunder]

Hey again sorry for being a pain but there any vanguard shipgirl I should be aware of to buff the backline (cv’s again)

[sharp socket]

there are many

oh for cv, kazagumo, baltimore (EU cv only)

[south sequoia]

sirius

[livid thunder]

Is Helena viable or is there timing mismatch ?

[south sequoia]

Helena is very much viable

[sharp socket]

you adjust timing then

[sweet delta]

T2 purple quad mag would be better than T3 gold quint from tech boxes against single bosses. On mobs, gold quint may be better

[sharp socket]

in this case is the 3+2 torp good on mobs

[sweet delta]

Ok like other nonmagnetics

[sharp socket]

alr then

what is bracketing vs lock on for CA guns

[sweet delta]

Whatever the devs decide to write there

[sharp socket]

does it have a difference

[sweet delta]

In the current cases in game, bracketing means it shoots arcing shells like a BB gun

At least when I look at bracketing on the wiki

[sharp socket]

so looking at these guns, what does the green and red damage mods mean

[sweet delta]

Whatever the wiki people decide to color it (probably compared to the "standard" CA AP armor mods)

[sharp socket]

i thought you wrote the wiki unless its another guy or another wiki

[ivory crown]

my mob fleet's backline is getting smoked by planes on 13-1, do i just need better AA?

[soft raft]

you lack a AA Carry in your vanguard

you might also want to run triple CV

[ivory crown]

ok

should i post roster to find those

[sharp socket]

do it in a thread

[soft raft]

post your dock in a thread yes

[ivory crown]

my mob fleet's backline is getting

[light trail]

can you use HELPs on hard mode and still do 3 runs

[sharp socket]

no

[light trail]

damn, almost had em. thanks

[still sage]

Who should I choose? Tripitz, amagi or Jean Bart?

[hot bobcat]

Bench or keep eye on for future fleets?

[forest palm]

all of those don't see much use

[soft raft]

Whoever belongs to the faction you need tech points for
Their only real value is tech points and BB FP fleet tech

[grizzled wave]

is the little academy good for exp farm? im trying to use for kearsarge 2.4 mil exp

[rain vine]

nope

[soft raft]

Doesnt really feel like it

[grizzled wave]

i am only up to 11-1

[viscid swift]

Bench

[soft raft]

Meh ship with just as meh fleet tech bonuses
Realistically just tech point fodder

[south sequoia]

She is a great dust collector, aka she will just sit in your dock

[grizzled wave]

is that a good exp farm?

[rain vine]

which is perfectly fine for exp

[viscid swift]

11-1 would be better

[soft raft]

getting to W12 would be more idea but that's a decent enough place to farm for the time being, it's definetly better than this event rn

[viscid swift]

Preferably though you would push to W12 and farm there

[grizzled wave]

where can i ask for fleet formation? i can screen shot my ships

[soft raft]

Post your dock in a thread

[hot bobcat]

Hmm.... totally not thinking about the 10 medals i can get out of her for future purposes i may need

[grizzled wave]

how do i do this im sorry ive never made a thread. do i just reply to myself?

[viscid swift]

Getting 10 medals is easy

[soft raft]

This

[viscid swift]

Don't go retiring unique ships for reasons like that

[hot bobcat]

Aw... shit... thought i could get away with that one

[viscid swift]

I don't reccomend it for any ship

[sharp socket]

what about akashi

[viscid swift]

Like I said, you get more than enough medals each month just by retiring dupes

[grizzled wave]

Fleet formation

@soft raft here i posted my main 2 fleets as well for mob and boss but ive been using von hutten/enterprise/indepence backline with san fran/shimikaze frontline to farm xp for kearsarge

[ivory crown]

what do people usually farm in story? like i heard w12 is good for farming, is it just to run 3:3 fleets for leveling?

[soft raft]

Yes and Yes

[hot bobcat]

@viscid swift so than what about ship collecting? Cause im trying to get george out of this and uhhh help... i need a good fleet but also meets the requirements

[sharp socket]

12-1 for exp, 12-4 for coins

[livid thunder]

Hey guys quick question is there a way to check how old my account is?

[viscid swift]

Wait until you're further in the main campaign and when you can actually meet the requirements before farming for her

[sharp socket]

theres also ship drops in earlier stages that people run 1:1 for the ship, including the infamous fox mines

[sinful escarp]

you guys think there will ever come a day where we can compose purple techbox into gold techbox?

[soft raft]

idk but you can cope about that possibility in #al-general

[south sequoia]

There is no real way to know outside of the english server anniversary

[livid thunder]

Hmm okay

[soft raft]

or if you remember the first event you were part of and search it up on the wiki

[south sequoia]

Another way is I guess your first oath

[livid thunder]

My first event was visitors dyed in red if I recall correctly

[hot bobcat]

Ughhh alright... ill just put the campaign thing on auto and just prob watch something else while it passes by

[livid thunder]

Although that have been on my lost account (;-;)

[vale spindle]

if you binded to twitter / facebook, they tell you when you binded

however its not that accurate especially if you removed / changed binds

image from 2021 vs now when i check

[worldly pewter]

for me i just need to check my first message in this discord

[sharp socket]

2 week old question but is the grandma hood

[viscid swift]

Yes

[sharp socket]

whats the reason behind this one or is there no reason
or is it a #al-general question

[vale spindle]

if you want more TRP for the requirement, better off replacing tashkent and leveling sandy to 120

tashkent has one of the lowest trp stats in the game for a dd

[viscid swift]

Another CV would give you more fighter cover and higher air space control value so you take less damage from planes

[vale spindle]

you can also replace hood or one of the other backline ships for a backline ship that has a trp stat too

[viscid swift]

Among other things

[sharp socket]

yeah im cooking 12-2h, i just need to level ayanami now

also how many gold catapults should i be having

is 6 a good amount

[viscid swift]

As many as you need to equip the CVs across 2 fleets in campaign

[sharp socket]

is the aviation tank skill really useless

[viscid swift]

Yes

[sharp socket]

alright then, guess ill spam boxes

[grizzled sundial]

Do repair box stack ? Like 2 boxes = more hp heal ?

[sharp socket]

should i scrap the numerous enhanced aviation tanks and purple catas that i have

[soft raft]

skills dont stack but the stats do

[viscid swift]

Why, among other things you don't even have enough catapults potentially to be able to afford to

[sharp socket]

i have about a thousand purple boxes to open, surely ill get 5 more gold catas from there

[soft raft]

pretty sure purple boxes dont give gold gear in the first place

[viscid swift]

You know gold gear can't drop from T3 tech boxes at all right

[sharp socket]

i thought they dropped from there

[slow fox]

They do not rip

[sharp socket]

well this sucks, maybe i get lucky from my 80 or so gold boxes

[forest palm]

literally a ship from 1916, making her one of the older ships in AL hence grandma

[plain saffron]

I thought grandma is mikasa

[slow fox]

Nygamillionaire

[forest palm]

both are to me

[worldly pewter]

for someone who has a thousand of purple boxes and doesn't know that gold gear doesn't pop from them is kinda a little bit uncommon

[viscid swift]

Honestly the Temepsta ships really moved the post for what's considered to be a Gramdma in AL

[candid meteor]

which hard stage is cruiser from, x-2?

[forest palm]

yup

[sharp socket]

i spend oil like a madman doesnt mean i can read

[forest palm]

EN players' number one allergy

[sharp socket]

should i get 4-6th slot dorm, 120 dock space or 4th and 5th slot and some dock space with 1200+1200 gem pakeji

[sinful escarp]

you have the 2nd floor dorm?

[viscid swift]

I would go with the 120 dock space

[sharp socket]

yes

[soft raft]

Full send on dock space

[sharp socket]

my purchase after topup refresh will be half dockspace and half for a skin

[candid meteor]

which skin

[wind hazel]

[sharp socket]

i dont know yet which is why ill buy that when the time comes

if i manage to play for 2 years without a skin that i like to whale for, i will be disappointed

[fresh tangle]

Finally got Wichita meta but she’s useless until she’s whatever it’s called for meta MLB right which seems like a far stretch away

?

[viscid swift]

like with every other ship yes

[wind hazel]

if you've been doing meta diligently it's not that far away

[viscid swift]

it'll be around 20 days until you can MLB her

[sharp socket]

is black friday on 29 nov server time

[forest palm]

pretty sure it's just late Nov

[forest palm]

could just drag her around Ops for Skill XP, not punished by any means if she sinks

[fresh tangle]

Haven’t been doing her diligently only just got my first copy and nowhere near being able to clear the showdowns efficiently

[forest palm]

that doesn't matter when it comes to using a Meta, if you just plop the meta in your mob fleet you can start working on leveling their skills cause in ops

• ships don't lose, or gain affection
• lose moral
• earn xp even if sunk

so you can literally drag their corpse if you want to raise them

provided you actually want to raise a meta, this also applies to any ship you wanna get some xp on

[sharp socket]

does abyssal give alot of xp compared to other opsi enemies

or stronghold bosses for that matter

[forest palm]

nope

[sharp socket]

sadge

[forest palm]

the best ship XP in ops is the first clears of the month

[loud rover]

whats a pr2 to build that gives good tech. didnt realize i had almost finish building azuma beforehand so now i wanna get a pr2 to get more catchup prints to turn to protocore

[forest palm]

pretty sure all of them give good tech

[viscid swift]

pretty much all the PR2 ships give good tech

[forest palm]

throw a dart and you won't miss

[viscid swift]

I think the ony PR ship with bad 120 tech off the top of my head is Marco Polo

[fresh tangle]

Meh yeah I’m not too worried about meta ships. Currently dragging a couple crap iron blood main fleet around for FdG

[loud rover]

well she's the whole this started was cause i ifnished building her lol

[crisp estuary]

[loud rover]

hmm georgia or gascogne would be nice. +1hit/+2fp or +1fp/+2rld respectively

[clever sun]

Guys, if i do one stage in hard mode but i will retreat before killing the boss. Will it count as a stage completed in hard mode count? Also will my kill in that stage still count?

[keen sable]

no yes

[forest palm]

maybe Ibuki, and Cheshire

[clever sun]

So i can use that tricm to get enough enemied kill right?

Thanks guys

[loud rover]

iirc we have a cap on the amount of tech right? if so what is the cap on BB rld and fp?

[viscid swift]

cap in the sense there's only so much available right now

and not on how much you can actually have period

[loud rover]

pffft i only have 1 bb rld tech. think its gonna have to be gascogne

[forest palm]

this is all the BB ships that give RLD, the rest is from Faction

[steady beacon]

So every single BB RLD tech point comes from ships

[loud rover]

luckily i have most of them (account too young for the METAs), guess i gotta dive into tragicomedy for a second to get Conte

[forest palm]

actually, it's 17 from ships, 11 from faction

or are you having an EN moment

[loud rover]

oh wow i never knew the higher the fleet tech levels, the better the stat buffs. hell i never knew fleet tech GAVE stat buffs, i thought it was from ships only

[sage nebula]

If Odin is in top position, does she still trigger Guam's armor break. Reason I ask is because I know Odin repositions herself and just checking if this doesnt interfere with Guam's armor break requirement

[forest palm]

here this demonstrates what you get per level of each faction, I believe USS, and KMS give RLD, and Hit, all factions give a varying amount of FP
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Faction_Technology

[silk sphinx]

You’re the one ENing Taz, hit is at 28 not rld

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

my EN moment was contagious I’m sorry

[forest palm]

also looks like IJN is the least important faction for tech

[eager mulch]

need me my ssv avi

[forest palm]

enjoy your sea slug

[silk sphinx]

I’d argue it’s still IB but oh well

[forest palm]

KMS has Hit which is very good

[eager mulch]

what does IJN have

[forest palm]

TRP + FP + AVI + HP

[silk sphinx]

Ijn gives 10 BB FP and 7 CV AVI

IB gives 3 BB hit

[eager mulch]

pretty good

[silk sphinx]

Then you have the vanguard and SS tech in which yeah IB takes the victory

[forest palm]

to me it's USS → HMS → KMS → IJN

[silk sphinx]

Hm. Was it IB tech that I took the longest to bring to lv9?

[wispy herald]

What are tech points

[forest palm]

both HMS, and KMS can take a while

HMS gives low amount of tech per ship, while KMS has few ships, but higher gains, but overall it depends on the faction you focus most

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[silk sphinx]

The number of points needed for IB per level is also higher I think?

[forest palm]

#gameplay-help message

[wispy herald]

Thanks!

[silk sphinx]

Faction Fleet technology points are needed to unlock shipyard ships, as well as better fleet technology faction stat buffs

[forest palm]

I feel like it's average

[wispy herald]

Ah I see

[stark quiver]

how much ships approx would i need to MLB , if i want to get 9999 faction tech

[wispy herald]

Thank you!

[forest palm]

na, ya KMS does require more lol

[silk sphinx]

I don’t think you can even meet 10k faction points for a single faction

[sharp socket]

cheeky suggested me this to work towards for w14, do i need the flapjacks that much

[silk sphinx]

Very large range of points given per ship

[stark quiver]

rip, im at like 6565 faction tech

[forest palm]

it'll help with 15 a lot, so yes

[plain saffron]

I would say at least 10 ships

[sharp socket]

this is for w14 tho

[forest palm]

yes, but it's future proofing

[stark quiver]

doesnt hurt to prepare

[plain saffron]

Even all ships is like 36k i think

[stark quiver]

a third of the way there i guess

[silk sphinx]

So the number of tech points I think goes from 15 to 256 for a maxxed ship I think

[stark quiver]

i mean i could mlb uvh, but thatd be a waste considering we have vanny rerun

[plain saffron]

Wait until next meta need uvh again. It wont be a waste anymore

[silk sphinx]

She does have 2 bb rld which you don’t need mlb for obv but meh yeah you don’t rly need her

[plain saffron]

Nobody can fill uvh niche

[eager mulch]

uvh can

[plain saffron]

Inb4 next UR does

[stark quiver]

oh yea shes at 120 got the rld but not the mlb tech yet

[viscid swift]

I reccomended the flapjacks because you have a lot of work to be done still so they should easily be done by the time everything else is ready

[warm niche]

hello guys im pretty new to this game any tips for beginners?

[sharp socket]

the flapjacks will eat into my wyvern making, thats why i ask

[stark quiver]

here comes beginner guide spam

[viscid swift]

yeas, read that
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[silk sphinx]

Check out the newbie guides, don’t use YouTube, don’t spend your gems before being completely sure it’s useful, and ask any questions you have here.

Very active channel, we answer anything from conceptual questions to making fleets and suggesting gear

[forest palm]

I have 59% of KMS ships at 120 or higher, and the rest of the 41% is MLB for total of 74 ships, which amounts to 6,177 KMS Fleet Tech

[viscid swift]

they will be competeing with wyverns for electronics but considering you need 2-3 months to the UR design plans needed for the wyvern
you can easily get enough electronics for the wyvern and a few flapjacks in that time

[sharp socket]

im getting the wyvern a month early because the game likes me

[viscid swift]

my points still stand

[sharp socket]

alright then

[sinful escarp]

do the file loggers in opsi give the same rewards?

[warm niche]

could you help me build a fleet and explain like the different roles and such

[viscid swift]

yes

[sinful escarp]

ok, thanks

[silk sphinx]

That’s a lot of stuff to cover, have you gone through the newbie tips first?

[viscid swift]

use the fleet reccomended in the newbie tips

[sharp socket]

also is the mkD good anywhere or solely exists as intermediary to mk7

[silk sphinx]

Also check out the fleet building guide on the same website before we go into that. After that feel free to ask questions

[viscid swift]

the latter practically

[keen sable]

Pennsylvania, Unicorn, someone, Portland, Helena, Laffey/other starter. Anyone you don't have, buy them from Guild Shop.

[silk sphinx]

Also yep early game just use the standard copy paste newbie fleet suggested in that guide

[warm niche]

this is my fleet so far

[viscid swift]

again, read that

[silk sphinx]

There’s a lot to take into account, and as a community there’s a lot of specific lingo that you should first get acquainted with through the linked guide

Otherwise it’ll take forever just to explain what some of the words we use mean

[warm niche]

i already read the guide

[viscid swift]

then make the changes it reccomends to your fleet

[silk sphinx]

Aight. Still, swap in Portland and Helena

[fossil shard]

Is it better for AVP’s airstike to launch first because of her slow?

In OpSi

[viscid swift]

2nd

[silk sphinx]

Slow takes place as soon as she launches, and has a limited window of efficacy

[eager mulch]

just make the sync tighter

[fossil shard]

I have shinano, hakuryuu and AVP. Who should launch first?

[silk sphinx]

It takes time for planes to travel from your backline to the enemy in addition to just the normal reload time, take too long and it’ll find itself outside of that window

[viscid swift]

doesn't really matter so long as AvP goes 2nd

[fossil shard]

Alright

[steady beacon]

Mfw I had a mini heart attack that I was somehow missing 11 BB RLD
Taz you bloody spreader of misinformation...

[silver lintel]

When does yama/fusou meta return, need my 2 rld

[forest palm]

throwing the blame to turtle

[forest palm]

we don't know, it's in the pipeline, but the devs haven't given any specific date

[steady beacon]

Lel

[eager mulch]

out here spreading the EN plague

[ember totem]

[forest palm]

it really started with Nagami

[ember totem]

even after all these years, it's always nagami smh

[eager mulch]

my eyes saw “Seahornet” but my brain went “hmm, Scharnhorst”

[stark quiver]

itll end with nagami dont worry

[crisp wadi]

Does flame aggression stack ? Also what other cat stats I must prio?

[steady beacon]

It does indeed stack

As for what to prio, consult Rice's guide: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[void turret]

how do i grind KMS main fleet exp for AvP mission?

[hallow iron]

Is the event torpedo better than the one I have now?

[rain vine]

yes

[icy mountain]

ye, also dont lvl up gold quints theyre doodoo

[steady beacon]

You... get a bunch of German main fleet ships and... grind...?
It's not any different to any other PR grind

[void turret]

is there like a preferred setup?

[viscid swift]

3 IB main fleets that need leveling

[stark quiver]

no throw whatever kms backline u have, as long as they dont die

[icy mountain]

what i meant was the magnetic quints not the non magnetic

[viscid swift]

Preferably ones that give good tech

[eager mulch]

can you do W15 without gearlab?

[stark quiver]

ask suchi

[hallow iron]

Ahh icic, for the magnetic one, we want quad right?? I didn't notice mine is quin

Thanks for telling me

[eager mulch]

why ask suchi when there’s a perfectly competent individual here who also has a T7 CL as a pfp

[ivory crown]

which high priority gear lab equip from the guide sheet should i make first

[icy mountain]

ye

[stark quiver]

~~wows player ~~

[viscid swift]

Funny thing is my pfp is actually of the Belfast captain in WoWs

[stark quiver]

sad i missed the collab in blitz

[ivory crown]

? should i show gears

[viscid swift]

Aircraft would be the first priority

[ivory crown]

wait actually can i get a full gear check rq

[viscid swift]

And everything else on a when you have spare resources basis more or less

[ivory crown]

so make the flying flapjack?

[steady beacon]

Oh uh
Sure, I suppose
It would help if I'd ever actually read that prio guide myself

[stark quiver]

wyverns if not already

[viscid swift]

Ju-87ds and Wyverns first

Then Flapjacks

[ivory crown]

so is it worth to do preliminary upgrades (ie fulmar to blackburn) or can i like hope to unbox them or something

[viscid swift]

Purple mats will be plentiful and not used for anything important really other than crafting intermediates so you can

[silver lintel]

Buy blackburn from core data

[viscid swift]

But Blackburn specifically doesn't drop from tech boxes

[ivory crown]

ok i did do the upgrade to blackburn woops

ill buy from coredata in the future

[viscid swift]

Yeah don't

[ivory crown]

dont for the upgrade or for the core data

[viscid swift]

800 core data is harder to spare in the short term than the extra mats

[ivory crown]

is there a prio for the op sci supply shop or naw

forgot waht coordinates do

[viscid swift]

Yes, in Sam's shop priority guide

[ivory crown]

oh woops

[signal pollen]

do you get yuudachi in hard or normal mode?

[rain vine]

can get in either

[signal pollen]

yay, thanks bro

[stark quiver]

i wouldnt reccommend actively farming it tho

[signal pollen]

but isn't yuudachi retro a good dd?

[stark quiver]

shes good, but there are other/better options, and expensive to upgrade honestly, and oil wasted farming for her

[rain vine]

she drops from a map that doesnt have oilcap

[signal pollen]

so I should use a low cost zombie fleet?

[viscid swift]

Do you actually have Yuudachi's retrofit item

[stark quiver]

you could if you really want her, seeing there are other options for her

[flint arrow]

any fleet that 1 shots wichita on auto or not really?

[signal pollen]

yes

[stark quiver]

anyways, her retrofit item is 2k spec core, which is better off going to a UR ship, seeing as she doesnt see much use

[viscid swift]

Where are you in the main campaign

[signal pollen]

12-4, haven't tried 13-1 yet. farming anchorage research xp

[steady beacon]

Guide very soon ™️
But basically every setup currently known is probabilistic at best

[viscid swift]

If you really wanna farm for Yuudachi then do it as cheaply as you can

[steady beacon]

Funnily enough, I still haven't figured out a consistent manual kill
Laziness contagion

[signal pollen]

yay! how cheap is cheap? 80?

[stark quiver]

below 10 per sortie or like battle or whatever u call it

[signal pollen]

😔

[viscid swift]

At max no more than 20 oil per battle

[stark quiver]

kinda just ranger+cassin/downes both 0lb lvl 70

[sharp socket]

i have doubts that 10 per sortie is possible

[signal pollen]

i was hoping my random level 90 juno would have it's use

[viscid swift]

That won't work in 6-4

[zinc turret]

how good yuudachi compared to mogador ? i see both of them tier 0

[stark quiver]

6-4?

weird

[sweet delta]

Mogador is Yuudachi pro plus

[viscid swift]

It's not

Enemies in 6-4 are level 68-69 plus you have to fight the boss without ammo

Even with cross fleets that's not exactly stable with a 0 LB Ranger and Cassin/Downes

[zinc turret]

hmm maybee just use 2 fleet ? 1 fleet cassin + ranger and 1 fleet 1 1 ship with cross fleet ?

for boss only

[viscid swift]

A stacked cross fleet would be absolutely destroy oil efficiency

[stark quiver]

i see

would running both of them at 120 mlb defeat the purpose of low oil

[sharp socket]

im pretty sure its still really low

[stark quiver]

its a good 18 oil per sortie

[clever lance]

I’m using hood, unicorn, Saratoga, laffey, helena, and Portland. What level should each one be awakened to? Currently ch 8

[viscid swift]

120

[sharp socket]

if you’re gonna do that then may as well run a normal 1:1 fleet comp with golds at 20 oil

[sharp socket]

reply to this

[stark quiver]

yea kinda just run uni + ddg

[clever lance]

For every char?

[stark quiver]

yes

[zinc turret]

is it good for cassin ? i wanna try farm low cost yuudachi if yuudachi worth it to get

or should i use twin 127

[sweet delta]

Rainbow or bust

[stark quiver]

u can do better than that right maybe a 114

[signal pollen]

wouldn't it be cheaper for two meta units to solo 6-4(it'll be around 22 right?)

[zinc turret]

i mean i can use mog i guess

[sharp socket]

just hotswap your best gear on them

[stark quiver]

if youre 1:1 i dont see why not

[zinc turret]

should i try to get yuudachi cuz her torp stat damn high or should i upgrade aurora and replace chapy to meet the torp requirement ?

[stark quiver]

farming poi for that is just a bad idea, anything with torp stat works just get +300

[agile sky]

i just wanna double check im not doing something wrong. To farm yuudachi, I just go to 6-4, and just repeat it right? Do HELPS or running on auto vs manual affect any of the rates or....?

[zinc turret]

yeah chapy have 0 torp lol and aurora have almost 300 torp

[viscid swift]

Yes, no, no

[zinc turret]

HELP basically double ur run and reward

[stark quiver]

to be exact you need 267 torp

anyways, aurora + whatever torp will work

[agile sky]

mmm....im on run 100 rn and still nothing. Statistically i should get one in my next 30 so here praying my luck isnt worse than avg...

[stark quiver]

rngesus

[zinc turret]

yeah build my aurora will fix that

[signal pollen]

where do I check how much oil is being consumed per sortie

[zinc turret]

why yuudachi is poi ? is it cuz at kancolle yuudachi really like say poi ?

[stark quiver]

precisely

[zinc turret]

um just add each of ur ship oil cost ?

like 0 lb cassin is 1 oil

[dusk badge]

Tells u in formation

[signal pollen]

ok thanks

ah whatever im just gonna an shan alabama 24 oil duo

[vale spindle]

oil cap is 25 though

so for 1 more oil u can use 4 more ships

[arctic aspen]

Can this be minmaxxed any further?

last slot is mobbing team

[stark quiver]

since nano is oathed, have you adjusted timings for cv fleet?

[signal pollen]

💀

[arctic aspen]

most likely not lol