gameplay-help

[zinc turret]

yea , the event didnt cost morale

[dense finch]

should I research roon?

[uneven cave]

It's good yes, but once you're at the stage where you're power farming every ship to lvl 120, you're gonna be really short on chips (and definitely not coins)

[dense finch]

I'm a new player

[viscid swift]

Research probably shouldn't even be a primary focus depending on how new you are

[wary timber]

I read all 3 buffs. There was no heal buff at all

[dense finch]

Thanks, but like I have unlocked all of the missions and have all of the materials to research her. I just wonder is it worth it?

[keen sable]

Unless you lucked into like FC, researching Roon is a big setback for most accounts.

[viscid swift]

Where are you in the main campaign

[dense finch]

9-3

[viscid swift]

Probably not then

You probably don't have any IB vanguards to farm XP for her without stunting progression and all those resources are better utilized elsewhere

[mossy void]

Random question. Which DD has the strongest AoA?

[wary timber]

The damn enforcer was firepower spec. Then it changed suddenly and game me a 2nd weakness exploit found and it changed the first buff

[viscid swift]

Frankly speaking, screen shots or it didn't happen

[keen sable]

you can keep claiming that but abyssals have 3 skills and you keep mentioning only 1.

[dense finch]

thanks. And also, I'm kind of stuck at this chapter. Do you have any suggestion how to level up my team? I'm trying to retrofit Unicorn and javelin

[wary timber]

Cuz the one that changed was the first one. The other 2 were the same

[viscid swift]

Grinding the main campaign and the event

[wary timber]

Man I should have freaking screenshotted the damn thing

[dense finch]

To upgrade gears or what?

[viscid swift]

For XP, coins, plates and Tech Boxes among others

[keen sable]

+10 of the right gear would certainly help

[viscid swift]

Also probably looking into a 2nd fleet at this point

[mossy void]

Going to guess no one knows?

[dense finch]

Thanks. I appreciate your help

[viscid swift]

No problem

[cobalt kettle]

wait so event map doesnt cost morale?

[viscid swift]

It does

[cobalt kettle]

[zinc turret]

what stuck at chapter 9 with that fleet ? how about ur bossing fleet as i think that must be ur mobbing fleet

[mossy void]

It does but it also has a section to get morale quicker

[dense finch]

That's my boss fleet.

[viscid swift]

Unicorn in your boss fleet...

[zinc turret]

why use unicorn at boss lol

[mossy void]

Unicorn is for healing mob fleet.

[keen sable]

is that not your only fleet?

[zinc turret]

use enty

[viscid swift]

Something is definitely not right

[signal pollen]

What makes anchorage better than aegir for research prio? Don’t UR stars have base stats?

[viscid swift]

Anchorage is much easier to max

And low development level PR ships are useless regardless of if they're rainbow or not

[dense finch]

I have another fleet but it is really bad. I'll send a screenshot now. Maybe I need to try it again, the last time I attempted to clear it was 3 days ago, when my shinano was not max-limit break yet.

[mossy void]

Uh

[keen sable]

development order barely matters and realistically you can't develop anchorage before agir

[viscid swift]

That's really bad

[zinc turret]

u have saaratoga ?

[signal pollen]

Aren’t blueprints still a pain in the but to get? I thought you could only get them from medal shop and events and research

[mossy void]

For one, cruise pass metas aren't ideal to use

[dense finch]

Yeah, and Helena but both of them are not limit-break yet.

[viscid swift]

Catchup gives you a dev 28 Anchorage basically for free and she can be coined as well

[zinc turret]

mlb them and leveling them

[signal pollen]

Oh for real? Yipee

[zinc turret]

sara & uni should able to carry ur mob fleet , and put helena to ur boss fleet

[dense finch]

Thanks. But also I have noticed that her damage is extremely strong once in a while. Why shouldn't I use her?

[viscid swift]

Just start a thread and post your dock at this point

This is gonna need a lot more work

[mossy void]

You might get away with using her, but definitely need better units to help her out

[dense finch]

okay I understand. How can I start a new thread?

[viscid swift]

There's numerous reasons but the gist of it is she's got a higher floor compared to most of your ships but a much lower ceiling so she'll get outclassed very quickly

[mossy void]

On mobile hold down a message and it will say start thread

[keen sable]

those ships suck but that's not the reason. you have poor fleet construction and low levels. The primary way to fix this is to play more but the gear you use does also matter.

[sweet merlin]

Is the new limited meta ship mid?

[whole crypt]

cruise or showdown, they're all time-limited

[sweet merlin]

Showdown

[whole crypt]

are you just lazy to do showdowns or do you actually want to know if she's useful

[stark quiver]

Isn’t she only really decent for some aspects of pvp

[whole crypt]

Wichita? no

she's just a glass cannon CA like her OG self, but looks like she's got better damage and a zombie skill

besides the fact none of us can actually test her yet

[sweet merlin]

Does laffey count as a ship with a zombie skill?

[whole crypt]

Laffey no Laffey II yes

[stark quiver]

What’s a zombie skill

[whole crypt]

if you're lazy to do showdowns then my answer is it's up to you if you want to skip on point ladder rewards
if you want to know if Wichita META is actually usable she's probably mediocre but no one has her in a complete state to test

[eager mulch]

when below X% hp, regain Y% hp

[stark quiver]

Ah

[whole crypt]

basically skills that help a ship heal or extend survival when hitting low HP

[mossy void]

Phoenix, Mahans, and Minny are good examples of zombie skills (I used those examples since prob more familar)

[eager mulch]

monarch

[viscid swift]

Kuznetsnov

[plain saffron]

wichita meta?

[sweet merlin]

What do they do?

[eager mulch]

.

[mossy void]

What they ^ said lol

[whole crypt]

obviously not reading

[eager mulch]

they “come back to life” hence zombie

[sweet merlin]

I mean laffey 2 turns invincible when her zombie skills procs so

[eager mulch]

Laffey doesn’t have a zombie skill

[whole crypt]

Laffey II doesn't turn invincible

[agile sky]

For the SP stage in the event, we NEED to have 4 fleets?

[plain saffron]

does laffey ii heal?

[zinc turret]

ye

[sweet merlin]

Just run 1:1 fleets

[south sequoia]

Lafii has no form of healing

[whole crypt]

Laffey II does heal but it's conditional

[eager mulch]

if a cv/cvl launches during her skill proc

[south sequoia]

Wait what

[eager mulch]

bro read I said laffey

[south sequoia]

oh that

I forgot, is that all fleet healing?

Or herself

[whole crypt]

Once per battle, when this ship takes DMG that would sink her: negates that DMG and deploys a barrier that can negate up to 5% (15%) of this ship's max HP in DMG. While this barrier is active, when a ship in your fleet launches an airstrike: restores 2% of this ship's max HP (the 5th time this healing effect activates, the barrier vanishes).

[eager mulch]

if I meant laffey 2 I’d say laffii

[stark quiver]

I don’t think laff exists anymore to gph

[south sequoia]

Oh

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure no one was seriously referring to OG Laffey at any point

[plain saffron]

who

[late flame]

[viscid swift]

Who could forget about DD FP tech

[eager mulch]

[sweet merlin]

Is there a update on july 11?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[sterile jolt]

Yes

[whole crypt]

pretty sure there's going to be an update at the end of this event, we just don't know what is in it exactly

[viscid swift]

JP patch notes explicitly said there would be an update on July 11th

[stark quiver]

~~yes I know it’s hypothetical ~~

[uncut oar]

is anyone in new banner dd fp

[late flame]

nah its july 32nd

[eager mulch]

both the dds are

[plain saffron]

they mentioned gear but we don't know more than that, PR7 is just a speculation

[stark quiver]

I pray that everyone in pr7 is bad

[uncut oar]

insert mental scream here oki thank you

[slender heart]

No don't

[plain saffron]

3 of them are not rainbow so already bad

[sterile jolt]

Why?

[stark quiver]

no incentive to grind

[plain saffron]

imagine needing ship to be good to grind for them

[sweet merlin]

It is a head cannon of mine that all odd prs are bad and all even prs are good

[whole crypt]

even if they were all 🚮 you'll grind anyway

[sterile jolt]

Only for pr7? Or below too?

[stark quiver]

Gotta get that collection

[whole crypt]

I'd rather they be good for that

[viscid swift]

We already know new ships are dropping July 11th

[plain saffron]

that's just a joke, bcs some people in gph like to think anything not rainbow is 🚮

[viscid swift]

It being anything other than PR7 is highly unlikely at this point

[sterile jolt]

Xddddd ok, ok

[whole crypt]

we know there will be maintenance on 11th
we know there will be new ships dropping
we just haven't been announced to explicitly they'll be PR7

[plain saffron]

yeah but anything not confirmed is still a speculation. a speculation with a lot of evidence(?) idk the word

[viscid swift]

an educated guess

[whole crypt]

which is why I refuse to speculate 11th is PR7

[uncut oar]

Shimanto is an example of a gold ship who isn't easily replaced by rainbows for instance

[whole crypt]

I have about 80% confidence it is, but I don't speculate anything less than 99% based on precedence

[inner delta]

[sterile jolt]

Like Harbin btw

[whole crypt]

because devs just throw darts for schedule

[jaunty vault]

yuki when are you banning cheeky for speculations

[sterile jolt]

Xd

[sweet merlin]

Isnt shiman to a ur?

[restive escarp]

Fleet update

[jaunty vault]

no

[slender heart]

Pr6

[sterile jolt]

No

[uncut oar]

in what world is shimanto a UR to you

[tame jungle]

My world

[sterile jolt]

In w13 and w15

[uncut oar]

she isn't even a gacha ship she'd be DR if she's rainbow

[sweet merlin]

Oh wait its shinamato

[jaunty vault]

smh guys stop being tosic mistakes happen

[uncut oar]

shinano and shimanto*

[plain saffron]

no i want to be toxic

[sterile jolt]

Shinamato? Shimanto? Shinano? Well, all of them

[eager mulch]

[jaunty vault]

shimanto is a PR CL from Pr6
shinano is a UR gacha CV

you're welcome 🤗❤️

[whole crypt]

just learn the moonrune names no ambiguity

[eager mulch]

I’m turtle

[jaunty vault]

youre no longer on vacation

[whole crypt]

my turn to be on vacation

[stark quiver]

3 stages of vacation

[south sequoia]

[mossy void]

~~Roon would like a word with you. ~~

[whole crypt]

Plymouth

[eager mulch]

Drake

[tame jungle]

Like the rapper??

[whole crypt]

Cheshiregood, also champagne gun

if you want to cherrypick bad things from the odd PRs you can do the same to the even ones

[sweet merlin]

Unzen vs shinano?

[stark quiver]

Ones a ca and ones a cv

[slender heart]

Wha..?

[whole crypt]

how do you compare a torp CA to a carrier

[mossy void]

Why you saying versus

[stark quiver]

Unzen would kill shinano if that’s what you’re asking

[plain saffron]

shinano win bcs she's more fluffier

[whole crypt]

but Shinano can also kill Unzen

[sweet merlin]

I mean, usually we prioritise the pr 2 fdg, 4 agir and ancorage and pr6 hidenburg but we do jot really prioritize odd pr

I meant shimanto vs unzen

[eager mulch]

I’d take 5 over 6 any day of the week

[whole crypt]

?????

[inner delta]

they do different thing

[plain saffron]

[inner delta]

[mossy void]

I give all of them love

[stark quiver]

Unzen still wins

[sterile jolt]

Pr5 all usable, pr3 have usable, pr1... Is just pr1, like nothing special

[plain saffron]

pr1 is usable though

[sterile jolt]

Yeah, for sure

[whole crypt]

Plymouth >>>>>> Hindenburg for priority, we say prioritize FdG because she's a reasonably easy to access rainbow BB to spend your daily free prints

[plain saffron]

so all are usable

[mossy void]

nothing special anymore*

[sterile jolt]

Yeah, yeah. Right

[whole crypt]

it's got nothing to do with "even PRs better"

[eager mulch]

hey we’re getting pr augs now so

[strange sphinx]

Headcanons are scary, it can make you dumb

[inner delta]

pr5 you have ply, harbin, brest, pr3 you have ches and drake there

[sterile jolt]

Thx for izumo Aug... Now she can do so much things

[plain saffron]

also comparing 2018/9 ships with newer ships no suprise they're not top tier anymore

[left cedar]

woaw, i came right into cope time, FdG aug to her reign be undeniable

[strange sphinx]

so after Fdg... who will I need to research in PR3?

[whole crypt]

are you done with 4

[sterile jolt]

Helena... Just the fcking "incredible" Ship

[whole crypt]

Helena is a 2017 ship, so is Enterprise

[stark quiver]

ranger

[keen sable]

you can research whoever you want. it barely makes a difference

[plain saffron]

because nobody replaced her role yet

[sterile jolt]

Mmm

[inner delta]

and she's fucking awful if you want consistency

[mossy void]

We all have a love hate relationship with her it's okay. Love her when she procs, disappointing when she doesn't

[whole crypt]

which is why we try to ditch her where we can shove enough overkill

[strange sphinx]

Idk what will be the Newcomer mission no 3 so..

[eager mulch]

chesh ig

[whole crypt]

Cheshire is going to be much faster to get into a usable state than Drake, also useful if you're still doing/getting to ch13

[mossy void]

So Yuki I had a question earlier but no one answered. You might be able to answer mine if you can

[inner delta]

what?

[strange sphinx]

Cheshire it is

[mossy void]

A friend of mine asked me what DD has the best AoA. Strongest*

[maiden crown]

What’s the best way to farm for pr ship exp if I’m in the mid game?

[sharp socket]

does lower framerate reduce the speed of the game when sortieing

[whole crypt]

best AoA for what

60FPS is only eyecandy

[plain saffron]

10fps is still a second compared to 60fps

[stark quiver]

60max

[mossy void]

No idea they just asked.

[plain saffron]

you get less frame per second. it's still 1 second

[whole crypt]

there's no "best AoA" without some conditions defined

[viscid swift]

define midgame, if you're not in W12 it should not be a primary focus

[mossy void]

True, I'll have to get a more specific details. Let's say they meant for w15?

[whole crypt]

if it's for ch15 you shouldn't be asking about ships based on AoA anyway

[mossy void]

That was just one of my guesses but you right

[plain saffron]

especially specific hulltype

[mossy void]

Is there one for general use?

[whole crypt]

no

you wouldn't pick a ship based on AoA anyway

[plain saffron]

if you mean what DD good on w15, laffey ii is one

[viscid swift]

you wouldn't decide anything based solely on AoA

[keen sable]

ktkz would be on the shortlist

[whole crypt]

AoA is just going to be part of a ship's whole profile at the end of the day, good ship good and bad ship bad regardless what the AoA does

[sharp socket]

normally a 3-sortie takes me 15mins on phone but now its taking 25mins on bluestacks

[mossy void]

I guess I'll have to get more information from them before I can answer/get answers, or it's just something that doesn't really matter

[plain saffron]

it's prob because longer loading time, not frame rate

[stark quiver]

+10 minute loading time

[shell willow]

how do people level subs?

[strange sphinx]

What is the consistent Frame while farming

[plain saffron]

exp packs until max then wait for raid event to raise the affinity

[viscid swift]

same way as normal ships

[keen sable]

OPS

[plain saffron]

dorm also works

[strange sphinx]

or old and reliable Dorm

[mossy void]

Sortie, dorm, xp packs. Even if you don't need them just send them out even last moment would help lol

[slender heart]

What cheeky said pretty much

[whole crypt]

the only difference with leveling subs is they won't be in every fight like surface ships

[plain saffron]

and take longer time

[whole crypt]

also you don't lose morale ever if they don't sink

[shell willow]

i see

[whole crypt]

they take the same time if same number of fights, it's just longer because they fight less

[plain saffron]

yes, hence longer in real life time

[fervent hearth]

it be like that om

[light trail]

this is agir gun right? how many do i wanna go for

[forest palm]

no, that's a 406 BB gun, and has no value

[light trail]

oh okok. what's agir gun again

[forest palm]

you're looking for the Triple 305 SK C/39 CB variant it looks like this

[light trail]

ohhh gotcha. how many of those do i want

[forest palm]

in my opinion craft as needed

[light trail]

so a few would be good if possible/closer to ideal?

[forest palm]

it depends on the CB you are currently using, you won't need more than 2, or 3

[light trail]

okok

[heavy gyro]

[cobalt kettle]

how often does wishing well come back

[south sequoia]

2 per year

[cobalt kettle]

also how long after a rerun will ships be put in the perm pool

like aquila

[whole crypt]

a bit over a year for archive

[fresh tangle]

Yay or nay? Supposed to be Saving cubes but kear looks good

[cobalt kettle]

i dont ever research those, just always save cubes

214 is too little

[late flame]

i would skip. lack resources

[fresh tangle]

Alright cube accumulation mode continues

[cobalt kettle]

how many 406mm mk7s do u need, 2?

[crisp estuary]

[cobalt kettle]

[inland shoal]

Well if you run triple bb on current meta it's 3
Not high prio tho

[sharp socket]

how much better are flapjacks over hellcat or seafang

[steady beacon]

Considerably
Since Flapjack has 2x 1000lb bombs vs. the aforementioned two having 2x 500lb bombs
Even before factoring in interception capability

[crimson glacier]

so like 10% more dmg

[jaunty vault]

11~21% depending on what youre fighting

considering bomb hit rate

[sinful escarp]

its 50%, it either hits or misses

[jaunty vault]

[vestal thistle]

Finished 9 4

Where to farm exp

[uneven cave]

Highest world you can auto through without dying (w9+)

[crimson glacier]

except that w9 might be better than w10

since w10 is big difficulty spike

[vestal thistle]

Is it?

[tame jungle]

It is

[atomic abyss]

it is

[vestal thistle]

I think I am over leveled

[tame jungle]

W10 suddenly has a lot of backline pressure which will cripple your main fleet with the burn

[crimson glacier]

i mean you saw the enemies being below lvl 100 right

[lament bay]

can you get gems from guild logistic?

[tame jungle]

Oh mate you’ll blast through nvm

[crimson glacier]

and URs are broken op for anyting that isnt w14+

[vestal thistle]

Is the new ship any good?

[sharp socket]

youll be fine, start doing a second fleet while you get to w12

[vestal thistle]

Trying to farm exp for roon then agir

[crimson glacier]

just use the kms ships you already have

[vestal thistle]

?

[steady beacon]

Can from daily supply
Tiny chance though

[vestal thistle]

The Fortune teller one

[uneven cave]

who the heck is the fortune teller

[vestal thistle]

Alivitr

[steady beacon]

There's a fortune teller?

Oh, I guess she's... vaguely witch-like...

[uneven cave]

[crimson glacier]

all the event ships are kinda whatever

[vestal thistle]

Is she good for anything?

[inland shoal]

She's an okay BC

[inland shoal]

I think they refer to her introduction and her name kinda meaning allknowing, but idk

[vestal thistle]

Yea

[steady beacon]

[thorn tartan]

this event has vouchers to upgrade buildings..... but i don't know where to upgrade any buildings......

[steady beacon]

The vouchers allow you to upgrade the playground
Bottom left tab in the school interface

[sharp socket]

should i +11 the mk6

[thorn tartan]

oh ok ty

[fresh tangle]

At least this format is fairly light on oil expenditure

[sharp socket]

i also just noticed i can freresh the guild shop with guild coins, should i have been doing this more often

[south sequoia]

Yep

[sage marlin]

Sooo, how do i leave the hard difficulty arbiter zone?
The Buoy at the start doesnt do anything

[echo nexus]

i keep going way past the max coins and i cant get the extra coins from the merchant
is there anything i can spend coins on so i can go back under the max or should i not worry about it and just let it go towards the hard cap?

[jaunty vault]

exit button on bottom right

[jaunty vault]

latter

[echo nexus]

okie dokie, ty

[sage marlin]

I need more sleep

[jaunty vault]

well atleast you aint the first person that asked this

[echo nexus]

you arent the only one lol, i couldnt find it either when i first did it 👀

[sage marlin]

I dont think i will take pride in that

Lmao

[crisp estuary]

[thorn tartan]

why does the limited rare ship cost 2000 in the guild shop? it's a blue ship....

[crimson glacier]

why not

[shell willow]

2000 is like nothing

[thorn tartan]

why not 4k then?

[sharp socket]

homing beacon makes enty hit first strike, miss 2nd strike and hit 3rd strike, so she now does big damage

[crimson glacier]

go put that in the #game-feedback

[thorn tartan]

just wondering why it is more expensive

the other blue ship option cost 300 i think

they purple one is 800. what is special about the 2k blue?

[crimson glacier]

limited

[thorn tartan]

i guess my question is , what does limited mean>

[crimson glacier]

monthly login reward ships

[thorn tartan]

i just start grabbing any of them i don't have......... that's what I do with everything now

[shell willow]

when pr7 drops we will have pr5 coinable and maybe agir too? or do they not do these changes right when new season comes?

[crimson glacier]

i doubt

especially the agir part

[shell willow]

[lament bay]

i saw a red thing when i claimed the guild thing and idk what it was

[steady beacon]

Prob gems then

[lament bay]

yeah i was asking if it was possible, cant find a list of drops you can get from the guild thing

[heavy gyro]

is washington good? (story wise) i just got her

[south sequoia]

Im not sure what you mean by "story wise" but shes decent

Hood is better

[heavy gyro]

oh uh what i meant by that is completing stages in the story and events and stuff

[south sequoia]

Judging by your fleet right now at the top ships you are missing key members

Namely unicorn and portland

You need portland to complete your beginner missions, plus unicorn is the best healer in the game right now

[heavy gyro]

[south sequoia]

You can redeem these two in the guild shop

No you dont need to be in a guild

just go to the shop then scroll until you see guild

[heavy gyro]

thanks

[south sequoia]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

take this while you're here

[heavy gyro]

[gilded shale]

What's the difference between solo battle and coalition?

[whole crypt]

coaltion must be done with multiple fleets but gives more points

[balmy matrix]

If I equip gear that increase speed in the main fleet (BB), will it affect front ship too?

[crimson glacier]

no

[whole relic]

how much faction technology does little friedrich give?

[atomic abyss]

none

[whole relic]

yeet

[atomic abyss]

little and muse ships don't give faction tech

[whole relic]

i see, was just about to ask about muse too lol

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

[whole relic]

very noice, thank you

[ivory crown]

can you do the event sp stage with only 1 fleet or do you have to use 4

[sage igloo]

Thanks, gonna have to read it

After like, 3 weeks playing this 💀

[plain saffron]

have to use 4

[versed elk]

new torp good?

[south sequoia]

better than quad mag

[versed elk]

thanks

Also did anyone find out a way to break 18.3k for ex

[inland shoal]

It's just quad mag with slightly more dmg and a bit longer homing range

[versed elk]

thanks thorin

[fresh tangle]

Just to tag onto this, find a guild asap. Doesn’t have to be a crazy high end guild. Just one running operations it’s a great source of coins and the guild shop is just another stream of resources. Would be a shame to ignore it.

[heavy gyro]

[real shuttle]

for farming this new event, better on coalition with full ships or just do 1:1 for each fleet?

[plain saffron]

coalition more rewared

[real shuttle]

but is it gonna reduce the morale fast?

[whole crypt]

if anything morale will go down slower per ship since they're in less fights

[real shuttle]

i see

[whole crypt]

it's just whther you have enough slots to keep everyone on 120+ since there's 3 fleets to fill on hard

[hushed dawn]

Are there any new, more consistent comps that have come out against Michita or is the Kear, York II, Implac / Sirius, Helena, Harbin comp still one of the better ones?

[atomic abyss]

nope, no new comps

[hushed dawn]

[atomic abyss]

i mean for those lacking reload tech, you could opt for plymouth instead but...

[steady beacon]

At best everything so far seems to be refinements of the bases that were established early on
But everything is still probabilistic, irrespective of whether you rely on Helena or not
Since all you need is a bad roll for your vanguard to get hammered

[atomic abyss]

it's one of the hardest metas in a long time

[late flame]

oops my bad

who am i kidding

[steady beacon]

... You mean Rodney right

[late flame]

oh wait rodney

[steady beacon]

Idk whether I'd say one was easier than the other so much as they are just different kinds of problems

[hushed dawn]

Modney became cakewalk for me when pilica showed me how to do it manually.

[late flame]

i can feel my lack of RLD tech ugh

[whole crypt]

how consistent do you want, I don't think we have any comps that are significantly better than 60%

[steady beacon]

It's a "do you want to be shot or hanged?"-type scenario

[whole crypt]

you can more consistent Wichita by saving your airstrikes

[steady beacon]

I've been lazy with my manual lately tbh
Still haven't gotten around to figuring out a consistent manual comp yet

[hushed dawn]

One shot per... 2 over 5 fights.

[whole crypt]

since Wichita does 5% more damage per 5% damage taken you can wait until a later Helena proc to unload planes in one go to take less damage

[frank pulsar]

how should i go about with prioritising backline tech? im currently close to 1/4 done with cv tech but ive only got a bit of fp for bb, and im wondering if its better to bring my bb to the same level before i switch back to cv

i still have only 2 bb rld

[whole crypt]

just do all the RLD tech first

[atomic abyss]

CVs are far more tech reliant

[cobalt rapids]

rld > hit > fp/avi
i would max bb rld first since its faster than cv and that gives u ready state to copy meta bb comps

[frank pulsar]

i continue with cv then

[whole crypt]

RLD tends to be on low rarity ships anyway so you save the trouble of dealing with them later

[frank pulsar]

so bb or cv first

[cobalt rapids]

after u max rld u can mix and match since its linear increase and not breakpoint increase like rld

[atomic abyss]

depends on what yo use more honestly

[whole crypt]

why not both, you can 2BB1CV or 1BB2CV in 12

it's not like you'll exclusively only level one tech at a time

[frank pulsar]

i usually end up using bb, ill do bb first then

[frank pulsar]

no its more of i have some ship for both hull, and idk if it a good idea to level both at once or focus one at a time hence the qn

[whole crypt]

you can level BBs and CVs at the same time

yes level both, because you won't only use one hull type when leveling

[frank pulsar]

ty guys

[inland shoal]

I kinda ran out of CVs to level quite a way before BBs

[whole crypt]

because you tend to use the stronger BBs with the weaker CVs
also the tendency is 2CV 1BB

[inland shoal]

Probably ran too much 1BB 2CV

[blissful hamlet]

does the new torps is the best magnetic without any drawback?

[inland shoal]

I'm not sure if they're always the best, for some bosses the USS thing might still be better with its tighter spread, but in general this is the go to mag torp, yes

[atomic abyss]

[cobalt rapids]

for stationary bosses for ships without tight spread mby

[atomic abyss]

i think there might be an argument to be made than unzen or might prefer the rainbows but

[cobalt rapids]

well mby for high density

[atomic abyss]

i mean CAs benefit from the torp stat sticking far more than any other class

[cobalt rapids]

yes but for st 20 trp from quints wont make up

[blissful hamlet]

let me reprashed, does the new torps better than the old quadmag without any drawback?

[cobalt rapids]

18% to 30% better than quad mags depending

[blissful hamlet]

sounds like the best torps then

[crisp estuary]

[inland shoal]

Wait 30%?

[cobalt rapids]

ye

[whole crypt]

depending on what

[cobalt rapids]

situation/ship

[blissful hamlet]

if gph said it then it must be true

[cobalt rapids]

moving vs not moving / normal spread vs tight spread

[inland shoal]

Idk if I evaluate the 2 homing range that highly

[blissful hamlet]

do you think the new torps isn't that good?

[crimson glacier]

you take the 2 range, multiply the dmg with it and thats your result 🙂

[inland shoal]

It's a clear upgrade to quad mags, there's no question

[blissful hamlet]

still best torps then

[tranquil saffron]

Is this an ok sub fleet?
(Don't mind the levels I'm working on it)

[bleak mica]

are U31's mines close enough to the bosses so they get hit?

[subtle acorn]

I have reached 400/400 in draws, but I have mlb both Shinano and NJ. If I keep it like this, if they change the UR you can pick, will I be able to use them?

[vale spindle]

yes but theres no overflow so any pulls you do until then wont add to the count

[steady beacon]

It's fine enough
It'd be improved if you could get Albacore (perma in merit) over U-556M but it's not a groundbreaking difference

[subtle acorn]

That's cool, as long as I can use it in the future there is no reason to use it now. Thanks!

[crimson glacier]

arent the next 2 URs shima and uvh or am i forgetting someone

[fresh tangle]

I’m 95% sure none of these are good and subs aren’t exactly vital to progression but is there a group of three I should throw in the dorm?

[steady beacon]

That would indeed be correct

Whether they also get implemented in pairs is another question though

[crimson glacier]

yeah and both of them are kinda whatever

im not really saying they are

[tranquil saffron]

If I use albacore who should be the flagship?

[vale spindle]

yea but have you considered uvh +2 bb reload

[crimson glacier]

but if they are it still wont really make it any better

[steady beacon]

If it comes to it, I guess throw the three Us in
At least there's synergistic prospects available within the trio, plus you can swap in any gold U-boats as you get them

[forest palm]

even if your sub collection looks like a dumpster fire, you at least want to do Lv 55 ~ 65 of sub raid, after that you can just wait for good subs

[steady beacon]

Mhm

[fresh tangle]

Yeah I can do the 65 no problem

Just feels like the dorm is the best place for subs tbh as I’m using books on IB ships to get FdG exp

[forest palm]

ya, just chill till you get better subs

[subtle acorn]

Shit I have them mlb too welp

[forest palm]

wouldn't let what Torva says dissuade you, they're still useful in their own right

[fresh tangle]

Didn’t even know there was SR subs tbh they feel like such an insignificant aspect of the game

If shima and uvh are next im cool with that i think. Only got Alsace and Mogador atm

[forest palm]

you certainly can clear all content w/o subs though

[wispy herald]

How does one gain more medals

[forest palm]

burning ships

[wispy herald]

Will any ship do?

[crimson glacier]

anything that isnt a common rarity

[wispy herald]

Ah

[shell willow]

higher rarity gives more

[wispy herald]

Got it thanks guys

Glad I joined the server early before I made any more critical errors ahaha

I cannot believe I did a requistion roll and almost sold Portland

[half plover]

I forgot to check today but how many event points can we get daily with all missions including the 3 built ships / day + sp?

so basically everything but grinding the event stages

[whole crypt]

around 1550

[half plover]

and the event is up for 3 weeks?

[whole crypt]

2

[half plover]

oh ty

seems like I can farm 12-1 again

[forest palm]

you can do the event in a day, or 2, the simplest thing you can do is go to like phase 23 for the DD, and stop, or proceed for a designated reward, but I'd stop before the rainbow boxes

[half plover]

yeah I got told it is best to always go for all gold plates

I am at 23k already

[whole crypt]

off the top of my head SP is still more expensive than normal

[half plover]

really?

[whole crypt]

well depends on how low you push normal with

[half plover]

my ships are super weak in the event lmao

[whole crypt]

I'm doing normal with 9 oil so

[half plover]

wow

I am using 375 for 5 runs

[whole crypt]

normal if you're doing hard on oil cap

[half plover]

ah nvm I meant I am doing hard

[blissful hamlet]

show fleet

huh wait why do normal if you can 1:1 hard

[plain saffron]

because normal 9 oil is cheaper

[blissful hamlet]

show fleet

[crisp obsidian]

Is Z47 worth investing into?

[whole crypt]

you can't 0LB this hard so you might as well oilcap

[plain saffron]

show fleet

[blissful hamlet]

show fleet

[sage igloo]

show fee..

[whole crypt]

Ranger/Mahan and Erebus/Mahan

[glacial heath]

i use like 615 oil for 5 run hard

[blissful hamlet]

who's mahan

[plain saffron]

cassin downes

[blissful hamlet]

where's the mahan comes from

[whole crypt]

they're Mahan class DDs

[blissful hamlet]

[whole crypt]

get rid of subs unless you're grinding the subs too

anyway first fight not too reliable if you don't shove good gear on, maybe monitor/Mahan will be more reliable for first fight too but cost 1 more oil

[shell willow]

how to get tai yuan retrofit item? i thought it was in core shop but neither of those is actually hers

[whole crypt]

it's not

they didn't add it as quickly like they did for An Shan and Chang Chun

[shell willow]

bruh moment

[blissful hamlet]

huh ranger has lower oil than erebus

time to farm ranger

[ivory crown]

can i get comp help for the event sp stage?

[silk helm]

can i ask when u would use cassin downes?

[whole crypt]

extreme lowcosting

[silk helm]

so like if there's an event u would use it to clear a b c ?

[undone plover]

What is the sp reward on solo (no coalition)

[ivory crown]

i think you have to do coalition for sp

[undone plover]

More or less
It cant do C
U can use it to clear the easy maps or just continue grinding B1 instead of D3
Probably not recommended in your first couple of months since u should be raising your fleets for campaign and opsi

[silk helm]

ohhh got it. i usually just 1:1 a b c but im broke on oil

[plain saffron]

you can't

[undone plover]

Oh I see
In that case ignore SP tbh
The tokens for hard mode are good enough

[whole crypt]

I do it when I'd rather save oil than save time

[whole crypt]

B1 farming is a thing for late game too if you want to save for grinding 12+ instead

not like I'd recommend pushing 0LB units for a newer player that can't do C

[undone plover]

Yeah that is what I meant
I wouldnt b1 farm my first 2 months since u should use the grind to raise fleets

Mid and late game B1 is objectively better
It is just tedious

[whole crypt]

very but it also gives me grey plates

[signal fog]

how good is mogador now ?

[whole crypt]

very

[signal fog]

they already fix her ?

[undone plover]

Very good dps DD
Low prio for UR bulins imo if u dont have a stacked backline yet

[whole crypt]

they fixed her long ago

[signal fog]

i see

[whole crypt]

like 2nd week of event?

[signal fog]

any gear suggestion for her ? lol

[meager gyro]

should i attempt this?

[atomic abyss]

didn't you already attempt one previously

[meager gyro]

idk

[atomic abyss]

and had to sit through the boss 20x

[modern aurora]

Who's better for boss fleets? Shinano, Taihou, or Hakuryuu?

[whole crypt]

I mean he should be able to deal with it much better now

[meager gyro]

ohhhhh, yeah it was 22 attempts

[whole crypt]

I'd say just hit it up end of month anyway

[atomic abyss]

hakuryuu + shinano together

[modern aurora]

thanks

[fresh tangle]

Maybe the next UR will be trash so I can MLB moggy instead 😂

You end up with about 4 UR bulin a month right?

[ivory crown]

what are the sources of UR bulins?

[whole crypt]

2ish

[steady beacon]

Good Lord, 4 would be some kind of crazy lineup...
Def don't expect 4 on average, at least lol

[undone plover]

Ik some people were mentioning eva gear or fire extinguisher for mog aux slot but I think that was just a meme usual DD aux is probably better (the ones that give 500 hp)

Also for aa gun u want to give her fp statstick for more dmg (if somewhere planes dont matter) or accelerator aa guns (or the rainbow aa if u have a surplus) if planes are a concern

[fresh tangle]

I’ve not been playing that long and I’ve got 4 and MLB’d Alsace. I only started at the end of baby shinano

[steady beacon]

Ye but you're new and got the uh
Collection plan one
Then there was a UR event and also a cruise pass

[whole crypt]

you can get 4 in a month if you include all the newbie shit

[steady beacon]

But 4 on average is definitely not realistic

[whole crypt]

but average income is closer to 2.5

[undone plover]

1.5 per month if u max out spec core + buy spec core from medal shop (total 6k spec core)
1 every 2 months from free cruise pass
1 every new UR event and UR rerun

[fresh tangle]

Ah that makes sense. I’ve had two from cruise passes. They’re ridiculously easy to max out

[whole crypt]

you're basically guaranteed 2/month on average from core and cruise, 4 new UR a year is 0.33 each month

[sleek vault]

I haven't gotten any commissions while doing this event, am I just unlucky?

[whole crypt]

so you just throw in reruns for a bit more

[fresh tangle]

So you really do have to be picky with how you spend your UR bulins then

[whole crypt]

early on yes, but it's enough to catch up over time

NJ and Shinano don't need bulins just wait for dupes for now, if you got them waiting

[undone plover]

Also occasionally u might get dupes from pulling UR banners
You shouldnt pull for dupes or chase the pity though

[silk helm]

I'm stuck on 2-5 where is the energy matrix platform?

[plain saffron]

see the ! and use scan

[whole crypt]

chances of dupe on UR banner not high unless you pulling for other banner ship

[undone plover]

True

[whole crypt]

story map don't think you can scan that one

you'll just have to poke around until you find the thing

[plain saffron]

just use map then

[silk helm]

Nothing shows

[whole crypt]

that's the thing you need to bring it to

go the other side of the map and find a black block looking thing

[silk helm]

This thing?

Okay

[blissful hamlet]

is +10 spearfish better than +13 saiun for light armor boss? assuming all saiun torps hit

[hard mesa]

Saiun with stop is better

[blissful hamlet]

what about spearfish with stop

[hard mesa]

Stop has little effect on parallel torp. Spearfish need at least 2 torp hit to be better

[blissful hamlet]

what if both of them is +13

[frank pulsar]

spearfish better if both same enhance

[meager gyro]

6 attempts in on the boss and its still not half life

[whole crypt]

you choose the one that gives you the righ ttiming

[steady beacon]

Depends on how many parallel torps hit
And it depends on the carrier itself
I calc'd Spear vs Ryuusei both at +13 for WichiM, found that ~30% of the parallel torps must hit for it to be worth on Implac...
Suppose that Saiun at +13 is ~0.93 of Ryuusei and account for the ~18% difference from +10 to +13...
Assuming these estimates, Spear must hit ~33% of torps

[meager gyro]

fuck this

[whole crypt]

screenshot fleet and boss

[blissful hamlet]

both give the same timing, which is why I ask which is better

[blissful hamlet]

sounds like I need a lot of skill for the torp to hit with spearfish

[steady beacon]

Don't take this as gospel obv, since this is nothing more than very rough estimates...

[hard mesa]

Under above condition, +10spearfish better than +13 saiun
+10spearfish: 288×80%×2+65×110%×4=746
+13saiun: 427×80%×2=683

[patent pivot]

Anything more than 50% hitrate on parallel torps is extremely cope

[steady beacon]

Ye

[patent pivot]

I generally assume 25% on stop 50% without

[blissful hamlet]

I can't +13 spearfish then

[silk helm]

Is opsi supposed to give xp or nah

[atomic abyss]

some nodes don't give exp

[eternal basalt]

No, but it cost 0 oil

[uncut oar]

How do the event missions work?

[frank pulsar]

it supposed to yea but lesser
not all node give exp though

[eternal basalt]

The blue ships give no xp, red ships do

[signal fog]

noted, thank you !

[eternal basalt]

Current event? Same as always.. what do you have an issue with?

[blissful hamlet]

don't expect to farm opsi to raise exp

[silk helm]

Why do some maps have auto search and not this one

[uncut oar]

The one that says "clear arts building using multiple fleets without (hull type here)"

[eternal basalt]

Cause its a mission map

[uncut oar]

Does that mean at least 2 fleets must not contain the hull type, or all fleets?

[eternal basalt]

You have to play hard and all 3 fleets need to NOT have that shiptype (and use coalition of course)

[ivory crown]

how much dock space do you start with?

[atomic abyss]

150

[undone plover]

That boss has a stupid heal reverse buff which means your unicorn is killing you instead of healing you
Do you have another fleet to use?

[eternal basalt]

You can get +20 from guild but the rest is paid

[silk helm]

who's ur flagship ship?

[meager gyro]

no

[atomic abyss]

do everything else besides the boss and retreat then i suppose

[wispy herald]

EIGHTH PULL BAHAHAHA

[meager gyro]

#trophy-room is that way

[wispy herald]

Use or not use?

[silk helm]

ok

[undone plover]

I mean u can manual and hold the airstrikes I guess
And then use them all when at 4/4
Maximize damage this way

[atomic abyss]

keep such posts in #trophy-room please
also she's very meh

[wispy herald]

I see, but I was wondering if I should use it

[eternal basalt]

It's not the under 30% heal, those don't even appear in strongholds

[atomic abyss]

that's the turn all heals to damage one

[undone plover]

No I mean dont use uni airstrike until last minute
Get a couple NJ salvos

[white agate]

do meta ship work for the faction exp gauge for pr/dr ships?

[atomic abyss]

no they do not

[inland shoal]

Inb4 we get a meta PR

[eternal basalt]

META ships support META faction... unleess PR7 includes a META they don't

[white agate]

thanks

[meager gyro]

ah fuck this shit, how do i leave this zone?

[ivory crown]

oh wait how, is there like a guild buff that only applies to members that are in the guild? or is it like you can buy it using guild currency

[silk helm]

same bro i hate opsi

[undone plover]

Just click out of the map and enter a port to repair your ships. There is no special leave mechanics for strongholds

[meager gyro]

thanks for showing me an abysall game

[eternal basalt]

Anyone can buy... the public guild just is more expensive

[meager gyro]

anything left to do in opsi?

[eternal basalt]

Farm out your AP

[atomic abyss]

do all the abyssals

do arbiter

[meager gyro]

what does this mean?

[atomic abyss]

use up all your AP on hidden zones

grind again the next month

[crimson glacier]

all zones once

[meager gyro]

[undone plover]

Have you done all your icons on the map? And the center boss?
And check the port shop and buy the good stuff there

[plain saffron]

some of the stuff converted to voucher on monthly reset

[signal fog]

keep training till all your fleet 125 and gacha all the UR ship, you will be stronger sooner or later

[meager gyro]

i could do this again

[undone plover]

Next month when opsi resets there will be another shop where u can use this
The exchange shop

[undone plover]

If it is the hard arbiter u cant rly beat it
U can try to get it down to 75% for some minor rewards tho

[silk helm]

how do u access the opsi shop

[plain saffron]

blue port

[meager gyro]

eh guess im hardstuck again

[undone plover]

Not really. U finished your opsi this month. Good job
U will have an easier time next month since u will be stronger

[silk helm]

how do you even get the currency? i have a different one

[plain saffron]

wdym by hardstuck, you just lose rewards from that one boss
everything else works like usual

[eternal basalt]

Which currency?

[undone plover]

And hard arbiter is mainly for mid-end game players not for your first month on opsi

[eternal basalt]

You unlock it when completing chapter 4 and getting reset

[silk helm]

so there's nothing i can buy if im stuck on chap 2?

[undone plover]

Well you can buy stuff in the 4 port shops. But also try and finish ch4 of opsi

[eternal basalt]

Just regular port stuff, if those are empty you really should try to finish the story asap

[silk helm]

i'm stuck on the seal level

and i have no more stamina

[eternal basalt]

You don't need to complete the puzzles (and they offer to solve it to you if enough tries)

[undone plover]

Also iirc opsi story doesnt need “stamina”

[silk helm]

idk there's some like golden anchor thing, i don't need that?

[undone plover]

U can check your storage and open some AP crates if u have them

[pale niche]

Which UR rerun is next?

[eternal basalt]

Vanguard

[undone plover]

What does this part mean in wiki?
Travelling to story node doesnt cost AP

[eternal basalt]

Once you're done you are dropped in the active node and take AP

[silk helm]

whats the difference between a node and a zone

[eternal basalt]

Nothing

[undone plover]

Well if we are being technical a node is inside a zone but small difference

[silk helm]

what do i buy with the operation supply coins

[cloud fractal]

Vanguard the UR or Vanguard Fleet?

[atomic abyss]

the UR

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Vanguard

[undone plover]

So you cant “refuse” to enter the zone after doing the story for that zone?
I should rly grind my second acc to lv60 been slaccing

[lament bay]

yeah when you enter a story node it costs 0 ap, but from what i noticed you need enough ap to unlock the node you are standing on after completing the story there to progress on next chapter

[eternal basalt]

Nope, not that I found 2+ years ago

[undone plover]

I see thanks
Good to know

[cloud fractal]

Is she any good by UR standards? I know people were speculating Musashi.

[lament bay]

it will "refuse" to unlock it if you dont have enough AP, but when you tap on the story redirect it throws you into that stage again and asks for AP to unlock it

[atomic abyss]

vanguard is very very very strong lol

[eternal basalt]

People speculate if Musashi drop this year or not

[atomic abyss]

she is mandatory in UR BB comps

[patent pivot]

Actually not anymore

[crimson glacier]

yeah i wouldnt say mandatory

[silk helm]

Do I buy any thing

[patent pivot]

I finished running tests, let me grab the results sheet

[eternal basalt]

Everything

[atomic abyss]

i thought the results were inconclusive

[silk helm]

Ty

[patent pivot]

Those were old tests, these new ones are much better

[worldly pewter]

hidden zones are troll zones
the more steps u do the more fleets they spawn and these don't give exp

[silk helm]

Where do I spend these

[plain saffron]

i would buy all, because the item pool is fixed, and each reset it pull 8 items from pool, so the more you buy the mroe chance for good item to spawn. it only for 1st months anyway

[undone plover]

Cant open on mobile mind screenshotting the relevant part if it is short?

[silk helm]

weird i don't have that

[atomic abyss]

this

[plain saffron]

it's from here...

[silk helm]

do you need to finish chap 4?

[eternal basalt]

Have what?

[undone plover]

Well there is 2 days left in month anyway so kinda doesnt matter now

[silk helm]

oh i see wait i have 57k i can only buy 2k worth?

[undone plover]

Unless u dont finish the story

[meager gyro]

i got an abysall boss to half health in one attempt but not a stronghold boss

[patent pivot]

TLDR is that you run soy/biz/alsace with alsace flangun and biz with soygun and soyuz with either flangun or champgun. If you run flangun then you CAN run mog and be the same as hinde. Otherwise hinde is required

[worldly pewter]

that is the currency that u use to buy stuff at ports
u are in one of them now

[eternal basalt]

4 shops around the world (and akashi)

[atomic abyss]

cos stronghold bosses cause your healing to damage you instead

[plain saffron]

well the skills boss have are rng and there's multiple type of bosses with diff attack patterns and stats

[meager gyro]

so how do you beat a stronghold without brute forcing it like i always did

[plain saffron]

it might be the abyss you get is easy, could be thestronghold you get was hard

[atomic abyss]

you use a built comp without healers...

[plain saffron]

it's called having a built fleet with enhanced gears

[cloud fractal]

So maybe not mandatory, but she’s still a strong pull worth cubes is what I’m gathering.

[eternal basalt]

4 fleet yahr

[undone plover]

By having a number of good fleets that can deal with different bosses
Or just having cracked fleet and gear that it doesnt matter what boss u get

[atomic abyss]

mandatory if you're missing one of the other key UR BBs basically

[worldly pewter]

do u check on the boss armor type before attempting the fight ?

[atomic abyss]

she's like the helena of UR BBs i suppose

[cloud fractal]

Yeah. I don’t have Biscuit 2 or Soyuz

[patent pivot]

She still has the possibility to make a comeback if we get a stronger dmg BB than BiZ

[atomic abyss]

then you absolutely should get vanguard

[meager gyro]

nah, dont even understand alla tht

[plain saffron]

and that's why you don't do much dmg

[undone plover]

It is fine u did your best this month
Next month when u have more gear and ships u can do harder content

[plain saffron]

you need to read the boss and adapt to it

[patent pivot]

I'm going to run more exotic gun comps sometime next week, don't expect them to do more but I am interested I'm the results

[plain saffron]

3 yamato gun?

[worldly pewter]

it isn't that hard but tedious since someone has to change gear depending on the armor type
there are 3 : light medium and heavy
and usually there are fixed weapons we use for each one of them

[cloud fractal]

Roger. I just finished Mog. So every UR is MLB now. Prime time to start another one.

[crimson glacier]

heavy and med just use the same stuff

[patent pivot]

one day

[undone plover]

Unless planes

[plain saffron]

if light armor
BB HE gun, CV rockets
if med/heavy armor
BB AP, CV torp

[worldly pewter]

for BB yes i think but not planes

[crimson glacier]

planes just use same stuff for all

[meager gyro]

[plain saffron]

only fighter changes, or flex slot

[patent pivot]

I'm curious about the viability of a near completely desynced backline

[late flame]

brings hvar cat to med/heavy boss

[crimson glacier]

torp carriers beat anything that isnt a meta boss or 1 fight arby

[undone plover]

But where is the fun in that

[meager gyro]

guess theres nothing left to do in opsi

[crimson glacier]

use all your AP before month ends

[meager gyro]

on what?

[undone plover]

Do your daily missions too for tomorrow*

[atomic abyss]

and then you start the cycle again next month

[crimson glacier]

c5 zones

[late flame]

corrosion lv 5 zones

[meager gyro]

theres nothing

[crimson glacier]

irrelevant

[atomic abyss]

you can challenge zones again

even if there's nothing

[undone plover]

Just let it auto and your cats will find you some materials

[meager gyro]

[late flame]

the aim is to gain more currency to exchange for tickets - to buy stuff from opsi shop at start of month

[worldly pewter]

did u buy stuff from the shop ?

[whole crypt]

you have so much conceptually wrong about the game you'll just need to fix these things one by one

[meager gyro]

which one?

[atomic abyss]

See?

[worldly pewter]

the port shops

[silk helm]

U have so many coins

[meager gyro]

how the fuck do you have so much power

[atomic abyss]

fleet power is irrelevant

[whole crypt]

by having proper fleets

[tame jungle]

I mean that many coins is kinda normal lmao

[whole crypt]

[tame jungle]

At a certain point you run out of things to buy

[silk helm]

U can't spend on anything?

[atomic abyss]

you clear the shop and yeah nothing

[tame jungle]

They get converted to vouchers

Those vouchers can be used to buy stuff after the reset

[whole crypt]

yes you run out of things to buy and just get these converted to vouchers

[silk helm]

Do u need to clear chap 4 for vouchers

[tame jungle]

Yes i believe so

[atomic abyss]

yes

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Currency

[silk helm]

Okay so mine just turn into dust

[whole crypt]

you need to clear ch4 to get resets active, and you get vouchers after you first reset

[undone plover]

Or u can just finish the story
U have 2 days left

[tame jungle]

You also don’t reset if you don’t have ch4 cleared

[whole crypt]

if you don't have ch4 cleared you just don't reset at all

[lament bay]

after first reset theres no rotations on the shop right?

[whole crypt]

yes you go into new shop format after first reset

[silk helm]

U can finish story in 2 days? I'm stuck on chap 2

[tame jungle]

Yeah probably (if you have AP and can clear it)

[silk helm]

I see

[tame jungle]

I think i locked in and did the entire story in like 3 days but i also had a bunch of ships at lv120 already

[eternal basalt]

(and then it took 1.5 months first time, half of dev and whole jan)

[silk helm]

I gotta beat all these zones to finish chap 2?

[keen sable]

you need to do what it asks you to do

[lament bay]

its just lengthy to manually do all the puzzles, i wouldnt say its too hard but i was overleved as well

[eternal basalt]

Read what it says in your questlog

[whole crypt]

check info tab to see what's your current progress

[keen sable]

puzzles have nothing to do with progress

you could actually never do them if you were so inclined

[eternal basalt]

They block zone completion till done though

[late flame]

just wander around until TB solves puzzle for you
or alternatively..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_RNFiEeJos

[eternal basalt]

Puzzles in OPS are just the worst, suddenly high level bosses for no reason and ZERO reward for any of them

[late flame]

luckily they are an* one-time thing

[keen sable]

too bad they should make new ones. what have they (the sirens) been doing for 2 years

[eternal basalt]

Fighting X

[vestal thistle]

How good is the new free gun

[tame jungle]

Straight up solvin it. And by it, well, haha, lets justr say. My puzzle

[eternal basalt]

What free new gun, of past event?

[vestal thistle]

Of current

[tame jungle]

Idk i kinda liked the puzzles but i can imagine them becoming tedious after a while

[eternal basalt]

There is none

[undone plover]

It is a torp

[tame jungle]

Probably the mag torps, they’re good

[vestal thistle]

Improved somethings something

[keen sable]

a 4 barrel 21 inch gun

[tame jungle]

Pretty sure they’re a straight upgrade of the usual gold quadmag

[silk helm]

is the quest log in the port? i have no missions left

says chap 3 is locked

[eternal basalt]

Information tab...

[worldly pewter]

there should be more missions under that

[hushed aurora]

honestly should I even farm all in the new event it feels kinda bad and I would rather want to progress in main story

[silk helm]

okay i'll try checking later ty all

[eternal basalt]

Not really, just farm what you need and move on

[late flame]

the event is.. child's play

[silk helm]

i just hit 10k and went back to w12

[keen sable]

you never farm all normally so.,,but maybe that wasn't the question?

[fresh tangle]

Idk the logic is the campaign is always there events aren’t and the items are good but yeah the event is easy. Think I’m gonna get myself to 40k or whatever it is and stop.

Do we know how long we’ll have between this event and next?

[hushed aurora]

Again i am new but for example I farmed last event so I get all the event ship + copys for max lb

[keen sable]

gatcha events are always at the end of the month

[tranquil saffron]

Get the upgraded mag Torps and optionally the ship then go back to normal grind

[plain saffron]

at least 0 days

[late flame]

event is 2 weeks till july 11th

[eternal basalt]

No, but atleast one week of PR respite

[tranquil saffron]

Is there a good possibility of a UR rerun between now and September or not likely?

[keen sable]

most people wouldn't bother farming gold cranes for example.

[eternal basalt]

Reeruns always in mid

[fresh tangle]

If there’s a UR I’m there definitely. If not I’m still there

[atomic abyss]

good chance

[tranquil saffron]

0 cubes life

[undone plover]

Next new UR is in Sep
Vanguard rerun is uncertain for now

[eternal basalt]

As in July 19 likely...

[tranquil saffron]

Vanguard?

[eternal basalt]

I think... nothing official yet, but keep it in mind with cubes

[tranquil saffron]

How many free builds do we get with reruns?

[hushed aurora]

Is it worth to use 100 medals for t3 retrofit ?

[eternal basalt]

44 for UR

[hushed aurora]

so rather buy a sr bullin? before reset in medal shop?

[keen sable]

spec core > gold bulin?

[hushed aurora]

What about the sr ship for 80 medlas

[silk helm]

both haha 😆

[undone plover]

Which hulls do u have as option?
Gold bulin worth more than some hulls tbh

[soft raft]

Enterprise > Hood > Evyone else in terms of priority from there

[hushed aurora]

Have both so I can just buy them for collection? and follow this guide I guess. https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority

[undone plover]

Sure if u can do both that is good

[keen sable]

only avrora has enterprise though. and lexi got the shaft

[silk helm]

what about sirius?

[hushed aurora]

Sirius is not in the medal shop anymore?

[undone plover]

She is a good pick
Get her if u can
The other good CL is sandy but u can get her from rookie missions as well and daily builds

[keen sable]

sandy and washington only. sandy isn't great either with CA, CL but at least you can get Sirius or Sandy

[silk helm]

okay thanks

[keen sable]

not for Lil E

[undone plover]

Not on lil-e server this month
The options change every month and are different for each server

[silk helm]

i hope lil e gets sirius next month

[turbid dawn]

How do the new torps look? From first glance it just seems more dmg but more realod, how do the numbers add up for it?

[atomic abyss]

better than the usual quad mags

[meager gyro]

is there any way ill ever be able to do an abysall?

[silk helm]

yeah bro keep believing

[atomic abyss]

if you actually listen to the advice given to you

you'll get there

[keen sable]

rng should do it someday

[silk helm]

if i can beat chap 2 u can beat abysall

[turbid dawn]

How much better we talking? Just higher raw DPS? It seems everything else is the same

[tame jungle]

The homing is also improved i think

[atomic abyss]

aye

[turbid dawn]

Ahhh, wish it showed stuff like that in the gear info

[eternal basalt]

What should it show? (except coefficient)

[tame jungle]

Turn rate maybe

[eager mulch]

I mean, it does say “improved” in the name so

[turbid dawn]

But like I said, just looking at the gear in depot the only differences you can see are higher torp dmg but longer RLD, stuff like 'turn rate' for maghnetic stuff would be a good idea

[whole crypt]

you need to stop doubting in your progression and start thinking and asking what you can do to fix what's not working

[undone plover]

Doesnt it have exact rld of quad mag?

[soft raft]

a lvl 119 Alsace should still work somewhat find for WitchitaM right?
I ran out of XP books so I cant raise her any further

[whole crypt]

like this has been the bloody recurring theme for about a month now, at least some things are getting fixed

[rocky fjord]

he wants to improve that much in one month?

[turbid dawn]

Ahhh my bad I was comparing equipped vs non-equipped

[whole crypt]

I don't know what he's expecting, he doesn't seem to believe how people are doing better than he is but then he's also not following through with advice

[undone plover]

I didnt know that is a thing
Thx for letting me know

[meager gyro]

im trying

enterprise for example is now mlb @whole crypt

[turbid dawn]

Neither did I lol, only had 1 +10 Quad to compare to so

[whole crypt]

good, now you can continue leveling her to 120 or 125

you're already doing way better now than you were 3-4 weeks ago, but when things don't work you need to ask properly what needs to be fixed instead of just dunking it again

[hushed aurora]

Is it worth it to upgrad all my equipment to +10 or 8 enough

[sly parcel]

Any guide for chap 13 plss?

[atomic abyss]

carriers carrriers and anti air everywhere

[whole crypt]

you don't really want to enhance stuff you won't use again later in the game or can't recycle to +10, but if you really have no better gear options and the enhancemenet helps then go ahead
if you're not sure about any specific piece you could ask here first

[soft raft]

if you need fleet building help, post our dock in a thread

[keen sable]

neither. you need to upgrade what you need to upgrade to get s rank of what you want to do. generally that can mean +10 for main weapons and +8 for other stuff but again that is generally.

[undone plover]

Use enough CV + AA
Use circle formation

If unsure open thread and post dock and fleets

[silk helm]

why is this gun recommended for cheshire but not prince eugun

[whole crypt]

because Cheshire has good AA and Eugen doesn't

[ivory crown]

for guild tech if you leave the guild do you lose it all

[rain vine]

because chesh actually has good aa

[atomic abyss]

cos eugen's AA is shit
that AA gun is for AA DPS

[keen sable]

use better gear guide

[rain vine]

no

[hushed aurora]

Its just so confusing with some purple planes beeing better als gold due to the attacks so I dont real know what real is the best alternative when on the website I try to copy only gold equipment gets shown

[whole crypt]

you keep anything you have bought but you can't upgrade any higher if it's already above public guild level or the tech level of your next guild

[undone plover]

If u are unsure u can ask here
If u have a lot of questions tho better to open a thread

[silk helm]

so prince eugen has bad aa so what aa guns do u put on her?

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[sly parcel]

Maybe gonna do some resreach before ask, tks for advice y'all

[whole crypt]

which site

[soft raft]

he's prob talking about ECTL

[keen sable]

/w15 will work for 13 but is overkill

[hushed aurora]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[whole crypt]

because I highly recommend not following ectl gear rec if you have no context

[keen sable]

113 is good

[atomic abyss]

[undone plover]

Italian twin 90 or uss quad bofor early on
But u can use triple roomba (the aa gun u posted) in ch12 tbh

[atomic abyss]

i mean if you have enough 113s to go around sure

[whole crypt]

you can 113 on all your vanguards for ch13 if you don't know what you're doing

[atomic abyss]

otherwise 113s for your AA carries like cheshire, and then just throw on other gold AA like quad bofors elsewhere

[whole crypt]

it's not something you need to actually worry about until ch13 anyway, and if you have trouble with 13 it might be worth time to actually start learning how AA works than just asking which guns to use

otherwise it's going to be posting your dock and depot and asking folks to handhold you through the stage

[hushed aurora]

Gear on my current Ship I use. Any tipps?

[silk helm]

agreed i mean ideally id want to learn why equipment is rated as good and why certain gun works better for cheshire vs prince eugen

[atomic abyss]

so in this case

cheshire is one of the best AA ships in the game

most other CAs, eugen included are meh or shit at AA

[whole crypt]

don't start from the ships, start from the guns

look up the equipment guide and see which guns are recommended for what sort of ships, then go back to determine which ships are actually within that category

there's far more ships to pick from than AA guns, so understanding your guns first will be easier

[keen sable]

113 does everything you want. it's good on EVERYONE. 57 is even better.

[soft raft]

only problem is its reload time

[whole crypt]

which is somewhat alleviated by its range

the reload time thing is blown over the top

[keen sable]

aa gun reload is worthless anyway. even accelerators barely do anything when absolute cooldown is 0.75s

[silk helm]

interesting

[undone plover]

Tldr for aa gun is that aa damage and reload is averaged for your fleet

Aa guns that have good damage usually have low rld
Which means u want to use high damage + slow guns on aa carry ships (since they amplify the dmg more)

and fast guns (with lower damage) on your other ships
There is also range to take into account especially if u auto