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Royal Fortune
I'll remind you, you can't alt-tab and win sub weekly without RF
and whats that?
why would you insist on "alt tabbing"
cause this guy alt tab and refuse to dodge
you have a short memory
that's because berke keeps alt tabbing out which means he has zero clue why his shit is getting rocked
tell them to actually look at the screen then
they are 
and do some manual play
Guy wants to play the game but not play the game and ask for advice then ignore or intentionally misconstrue what’s being told
She's been the ship we've been discussing for the past few mins
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Royal_Fortune
can rf with stock guns auto weekly?

she can, but you need her at higher level to compensate
RF + mog gun ? 
can’t
she can't use regular guns
am i to lazy to be annoyed by this event making me introduce the fleets for Every Entry?
it's an old account. maybe can just use whydah fuck not if cost bothers you 
question mark but I don’t see a question
wut i tought mog gun is dd gun ?
Wiki BAD
all of the frigates are restricted to using cannons
"Normal" DD guns have a trait that says no IX
the last time I checked they were scrapping good gear because they had no gold plates and have literally not done any daily raids for the past 4 years
it's an old account yes but it's got fuck all in terms of resources
can you even get gold plates out of non > +10 gear 
no
jesus christ
What loadouts are people using for witchimet
luckily even with a depot of 7 items whydah will still have her guns
should I get royal fortune from data shop
can you equip her with gear?
don't tell me you're incapable of manual sub either 
did he even play for 4 years without any break tho ? or he take some break
there were definitely breaks in between
doesn't really matter though, the state of the account is still a mess made worse by inept decision making and refusal to take advice
idk I don't usually do sub stuff
I only have one sub though so I was wondering if I should get her since I do have the data for it
I would only recommend RF if you were totally inept at the game and even then maybe should just wait for Halloween.
i can buy either a second ply gun or a second 457 from protocore shop, which one should i get?
do you have Musashi and are you planning to tackle W14/W15 anytime soon
what happend at haloween ?
did i get free RF ?
i have musashi and im at w15-1
2nd Plymouth gun then
Maybe more Tempesta ships?
mary celeste was free 
When is QE Meta going to be added to the archives?
we don't know
btw who do i put it on besides plymouth
Is z47 gacha only
Helena, use it as a BB aux gun, etc
ah.
why specifically if I was horrible at playing the game tho, does RF do something different
she’s like a squishier DD in a sub slot
she basically ignores the sub weekly mechanics
tempesta didnt use torp she use different weapon
ikr youtubers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmZ27PVEAs
among other things the devs didn't anticipate the affect of unlimited ammo and quick firing guns would have on a node balanced around ships having limited numbers of torpedoes as their primary and only offense
Google azure lane royal fortune sub weekly 
basically u dont have to worry about aiming the torp just focus at dodge
instead of thinking how you want to spend your torpedo and dodging, RF just have guns so you just kills everything
U can just auto if levelled and geared properly
you don't need to dodge. probably just cause most people to run into more torps anyway
What loadouts are people using for witchimet
Is Helena retro worth 125? Was told to be more conservative with who I take to 125
eh lets give 11-3 another try
for meta fight having 125 is pretty nice since it's closer to lv difference but not super important
so she's just a cheese ship for the weekly and that's about it? no use in later worlds?
yes
yea, i mean she's not bad but sub are just better in the long run
ah. guess I'll save my data then
helena is frequently the last ship standing so...
I’ll chill with 125 for now. Ended up doing 3 and got the rewards but will hold off
are you not doing mitchita with helena or ops? helena is very meta. i don't see much point in waiting.
Is it just me or is swiping left and right when enhancing ships kinda broken lately?
me 2
all 3 (except Z43) are construction only, right?
yes

are the elite good?
I’ve done witchita meta several times now yeah but tbh haven’t paid too much attention to comps as I don’t have the URS people talk about
new torp good?!???!???????
Yea
how do you set up the strategic research to spend daily stamina on OpSi? If i use it while inside that zone map, it restarts twice before going on auto search, sometimes i see Akashi on the restarted run so if it can skip rng like that it looks pretty cringe; it doesnt consume more AP so idk if its doing it correctly or not
I need help. Currently I have 745 ships out of 748. Game is only showing that I have 2 ships unobtained and I have no idea what the last missing ship is from. It's not a meta or retrofit
have you got Z43 already
Nope.
Only need z43 and Houston 2 but that would only make 747 not 748
just take some screen shots at this point with the not obtained sections of your archive
One sec
Hmmmm How should I build my Alvitir?
iirc you're unable to sort retrofit to unobtained. could be missing a retro tbh
And ofc relog first to be sure
With cubes 
just to show what im talking about
already, 2 pity, so what's her main gub
Just equip her like any other BB
I am missing a retro
That is just the Akashi you already met way back in the Explorable version of that zone
Im missing on retro, it doesn't have it show when it's selected on unobtainad and it was Colorado
hmmm not bad
aahh so its not the secured zone
Yes, strategic search goes to the (empty) explorable to reset the secured
quick question
is the "coalition battle" = more reward compare to solo challenge?
hmmmm who should I get in PR2 After fdg
yes
really? how so, how much?
do you know if that akashi shop in explorable resets? i found that i didnt buy anything in it, maybe i just forgot
Well you see how it says "Base reward" and "Coalition Bonus"?
no, i'm not logged in at the moment.
It doesn't, otherwise you could just leave and go back there all the time for unlimited profit 
yea I can figured that already but unsure about how much higher it compare to solo
No one, do PR4 or sth
scammer getting scammed
priority in Pr 4p? Archo?
anchorage then the rest, stay till they are all finished and you have a couple of tenrais

Well kinda waiting for the time for FDG to unlock all of her
not sure what you mean, but do FDG with coins, not actually researching PR2. Feel free to set catchup to FdG though.
I mean the timer still running

aka those requirements to unlock her
The developing phase of FdG
Ah, cool, seems like it's mildly worth it, but will be weird morale wise
these points, is it possible i can save them for anything other than nj and shinano?
maybe guam?
doubt they will add anyone else any time soon
Guam not gonna be in exchange for a loooooong time
does thw event have more of this 
no, only 1
Is there an objective list of what Rares and Epics I don’t need to keep copies for MLBing? Trying to clear out some space, but I don’t want to waste time and coins leveling some of the potential junk.
for prinz rupprecht, the secondary gun with increased range is the ghost gun and not the gun i equip in her secondary slot right?
anything that doesnt give good tech at 120 would be on this list tbh but u dont wanna retire event exclusive ships since it will be a PiA to get them back again. there are some elite ships that see usage though
like aurora and others like helena, unicorn and the DDG (although they become SR with retrofit, etc
u can check guild shop and map drop ships and start retiring those if dockspace is an issue and u cant buy anymore
How exactly do u wanna farm this event?
Can't farm the EX cause man, My first fleet die
if it's her special sec then not the one you use, if it's like bismarck then it's the one you use
alright. thank you 
farm hard
you can just farm hard
Is Mogs Gun good on Helena?
no
if shes the only one that uses DD gun in your fleet then use it on her.
helena's secondary efficiencies are atrocious
mog gun good in any DD slot. That said, Hela's secondaries bad, who else could use it on your fleet?
use it for DD that have high main gun efficiency and mgm/mgb +1 and higher fp = better
Its on Z23 was just wondering if its better on her
z23 would want it far far far more
keep it on z23 then
1 more question is Kiev worth MLB after i do sandy?
thats too vauge. what other ships are you using. they're different roles afterall
Z23 is my only Leveld DD i beleive
if we are multi fleeting, does dorm morale make a difference?
Not sure if i need more Well only MLB DD
Depends on how lazy you are
hmm, im not sure whats the situation of your dock. but shes a decent mobber DD 
u gonna need more dd eventually
cuz some hard mode need high torp stat which force u to use more dd
I have mog but only LB once and not sure if i want to spend my UR bullins on her
Thank you for the Information
time for torpedo aux padding
just don't use helena, or level up your DDs a little more
are they max enhanced?
yea
what world hardmode is that
uh 11-1
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ships you can sort by torp, some random elites and rares have really high torp stat
This is a list of ships by their in-game ID number. You can see this through the top button of the Collection interface.
To sort by multiple columns, first sort by the highest-priority sort (by pressing on the headers of the table) then Shift + Click on each of the subsequent priority sorts.
As of Thursday, 6/27/2024, there is a total of 585 reg...
u can also just give this to one of your ships https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Type_93_Pure_Oxygen_Torpedo#Type_2-0
or the rainbow version if u have any
definately my z23 need more care 
i just noticed 3 starters are in your hardmode fleet 
/reqhelp
is farming the hard mode of the event good for gold? or should i go back to 11-1
well they easiest dd to get since they drop everywhere from 2-1 above so u can mlb them pretty easily
Who do i want to get while rerolling?
rerolling is not needed in this game
you get too little resources to even do a 10 build
Okay 👍
are you done for event? 
why not w12?
anything really good that you could roll will be useless anyways
idk someone said 11-1 is more gold or something
and i just hit 10k points on the event
they meant more exp per oil, but w12 is more gold
its 12-1
okay idk if i can even get that far but i'll try
theres stuff after the 10k mark actually.
how hard is ex? can I 1:1 IT?
i think you should farm more than that 
i could haha when r u gunna stop? 30k?
me? prob 55k. i want the gold plates and stuffs~
niceee maybe i'll go for those maybe. this even is easier to get points IMO
wtf i didnt know you only needed to fulfill one requirement
Uh u need fullfill all
but what about the top right picture then, is that just misinformation
wait, if this is like frostfall, I don't have to clear all of ex to count as a clear, does anyone know if that's true?
nice, easy 500 cogs then
this event is surprisingly chill ngl
whats wrong with it? 
11-1 isn't good for anything compared to 12. Not exp, not gold, not even easier.
What about it?
will my new lvl 100 ships be able to survive 12-1
depends, but why not cog release them
what kind of level 100 ships.
not terrible fleet of level 100 shouldnt be an issue for mobs. esp with unicorn
not enough cogs 😦
with safe ofcourse~
also, 1st clear and lethal is different than safe mode
You can carry even L1 bulins with two healers. Without healers
depends how bad and how badly geared they are
Owh , the ship requirement huh , i tought u talking about stat requirement 
i have uni retro is enough?
To carry any L100 ship, plenty
depends, try and see, the rest of us hardly remember what first clear w12 was like
haha you guys r pros
gear cannot be too ass though. cuz if u take too long to kill the enemy. they'll eventually kill you~
i remember i used like a scuffed fleet for 12
only berke and i rembr w12 cuz we noobs
we all came from the same place yknow 
im new
Berke doesn't remember 12. Still stuck on 11-2
berke can't even remember our advice

sorry if im being silly but, i cant seem to figure out how to switch the event to show hard stages, or are they not out yet?
there are no hard mode stages, the stages u see, from easy to ex are all there are
the level you "farm" is "Hard Arts Building"
is the xp given during the hard stage very small
yes
Ive been off for some years, can somebody help me keep up with what to do now, whats meta or what, i can provide my stuff so yall can help
sure but post it in a thread
what is the enemy level on SP?
wait yea 110
Thanks 
sp was easy to 1:1 with good ships
why 1:1 if it has oil cap
gotta level for tech 
i dunno, i'm used to 1:1 on first clear and was lazy about building full fleets
sp should be done using 1:1 for oil efficiency according to the pins 
I might change it up tomorrow
crossfleet isnt a thing right? in this format?
prob not. didnt see alsace cross fleet earlier. but correct me if im wrong~ 
actually yeah the oil cap is a bit high
I will just 1:1 then thanks
is there an estimated timeline for when more UR ships (like shimakaze) will be added to standard pity?
We dont know, probably not until later this year
They are very late in adding Shima, since Shima came just a couple months after NJ, so we just don't know when they will add her. @potent tinsel
when the first 2 were added it was quite literally an oddity, as one was made perm way ahead of it's time
so just have to wait, and see 
how bad are the loli ships? are there any good ones that can at least clear w14?
there's a lot of loli in this game, do you mean children?
nano chan was the best one iirc
not sure how good FdK is 
right I mean the -chan characters my bad
child ships are lower grade version of their original form. i dont think they can clear W14 lethal on auto tbh. FDK/nano/ches are the better ones
thanks
amagi-chan is the cutest
Child Renown is actually better than her original
right there was lil renown
lil lusty sabotage
akagi-chan for EX 
does she have special bonus against ex?
its a joke
they dont have any special power against EX
should i use mogador over z23 or tash?
is she mlb
yes
sure
Alvitr worth to spend cubes or should I wait for a UR event ?
hows your cube situation
50
worth is subjective
save it then 
Thanks @calm rose
Is sandys Augement worth crafting
Insane skill
i pulled personally just cause i tend to just whale for shit
thats fine
think I should provide feedback that it would be nice to make event stages better exp and gold, or think that's pure cope?
pre retro sandy isnt good
Im missing 2 golden Cruisers
isnt pre retro sandy with aug alright?
I got everything esle for the Retro out of hard mode today porlly 2 days she's Retro fit
ya, pre retro sandy w/ aug is respectable for use
She is my only AA ship I need that for W13
you don't need to hard invest into AA with world 13, just gotta make sure you're using CVs with good planes, and have at least another moderately good AA Vanguard ship aside from Sandy
depends on ur dock
i dont recommend pushing w13 when ure still running non +10 gear tho
Gear is my biggest downfall i have 1 Rainbow Gear its DD gun
you dont need UR gear to clear W13~
rainbows are expensive to +13
you just need to have correct gears at +10
I saw a lot of ppl complaining before about the event stages
it looks like hard gives 420 per 75 oil which is 5.6 token/oil
that is better than low oil cost normal events 
what was the big issue?
I don’t know but reaching to 8k doodles (event points) to get the torps took me less than one hour
Now how much coin per oil
but u can farm the whole event with 8k oil and then go back to 13-4
also dont u guys always say u are above softcap anyway?
i’m different 
its been a year since ive even hit soft cap
ah yes softcap, for those insane enough to waste 90 to 100 oil on a single fight within a stage. would never recommend going over it, be oil efficient until you unlock oil limit
staying above the soft cap doesn't mean you're safe in terms of not going broke
is perseus good for a mobbing fleet? i have unicorn and volga in there at,, should i swap either?
and the issue with these event stages is they're extremely unrewarding
there is 0 reason to stick around after you're done getting the milestone rewards you want
the XP and coin income sucks, you get no ships for using as enhancement fodder, and there's no event so you're not getting nearly as much value out of the event points
it honestly depends on where you're at in the game, I have practically run out of shit to spend coin on, so I sit around 450k ~ 500k in between events 
not to mention the more efficient way to farm is to run multiple fleets making maintaining morale a real PIA
event bad go next 
yeah not having a shop kinda sux
but being able to farm the whole event with 2 days worth of oil income is kinda nice
also farming 2k tokens with 1 autorepeat is nice 
you can literally do the whole event in a day, so you could technically ignore it....lol
that's another issue as well, the event is literally done in one or 2 days
how long does this thing last? 14 days?
Do higher stages Yeild more Part Drops or chances to drop more gun and plane parts ETC
yes
i mean that is a bonus when I wanna go back to ch 13 
2 weeks for an event that's a nothing burger
say i have a ship at lvl 100, how many 12-1 runs would it take to get her to 120
like we got a glorified 2 dead weeks to wait out for PR7
yea. abit long 
you farming w13 with unicorn? 
Frostfall's timing last year only exasperated the issue, you could very well argue that next to nothing happened for a 5 week period last year
I think around 300 runs for non-rainbow ship
250 runs if it also fights the boss node
not to mention i forget to pull for my last lvl120 BB FP
as peparation for 15-4 since skill issue , im just leveling indep, also for tech
if u flag her and mvp she will do it much faster
also put her in your opsi mob fleet for some free xp
why can't we use efficiency plans ? 
not if i have 30 of them
why not
this kinda event allows for HELP? no right 
unfortunately no
wdym help?
High-Efficiency Combat Logistics Plan, the x2 thingy

fwiw it looks like the gold per oil on the hard stage is 4.5
which is similar to 10-1
i forgot what event D3 was like but I dont think it was much better 
isnt that basically nothing
D-3 is typically 11-1 oil cap with 10-3 rewards
usually when there is new furniture the game will
you
i think there is just one piece in the missions
thats odd
I think some events just dont have it
i remember Kron event had no new dorm theme which I found odd and that was a UR event
yea
how do you farm these design plans? I feel like ive done a lot of opsi but havent got any.
mainly from shop/abyssal
usually the other materials are a bigger issue like electronics
i have never ran into trouble with these designs tbh
its always electronics
there's also a certain one that gives you the option to select certain ones, so you can use a couple of those if you're missing some
how does you never have problem with design gonna help with that question
EN virus spreading to gph
I mean I am not trying to flame the guy. Just mentioning that with time you should have no issue assuming u clear everything... gives a perspective into how rare they are
if your experience is different I would love to hear it
Does Echoes of Reliquished Time (aux for Akagi) work for Akagi-chan?
no, it's specific for akagi
i need some gold should i farm the event hard or 11-1?
if you looking for coin then campaign is better, the event is really bad so just get the reward and go out
someone said 12-1 is better for gold
Sp is just 1 time/day?
what is abyssal?
the coordinates
well i got to 20k for the event ig its fine ?
Also for hard do i farm the single battle or the coalition one
on the map u see them as red chests
is that what all this stuff is?
coalition give more reward / solo is less ship used
the last 2 are abyssals
what should I use all the ther ones for then?
i don't remember the milestone, the important one is grabbing the ship and the gear, the rest is up to you
are they very difficult? its giving me a warning.
the warning is if you leave you cannot come back
Heavy heavy med light light?
just for tokens I guess? I actually am not sure I just strategic search because I'm lazy
what fleet(s) are u using?
also what is your adaptive tuning? the numbers on the right side when u are in the opsi map
yeah it was 8k-10k for both i got them all ill get the extra dupe because why not
Do i really need to have 4 functioning fleets for this SP event stage?
you shouldnt really need 4 full fleets, nor is it worth it to have full fleets
all the bosses are medium armor
thx
1/5 right lmao
How was I supposed to guess
Most bosses in the game are medium, it's rare that they're heavy or light.
do the event stages have subs
dont believe so
Help me out
thanks guys
Do the shooting game
i just do the match 3 one to 3k points and bail
The shooting game takes like 15 seconds per run and is super easy to get full points
for the playground thingy, is morale gained only for the event
its like onsen
How high is the morale consumption?
kinda low coz 1 fleet only does 1 battle so its 2 morale / sortie
and pt income is also high so u can speedrun it in a day
New mag torps > regular mag torps?
direct upgrade
Damn nice
phase 19 in milestone rewards
it has same reload, higher damage and same multipliers
and better homing range
This means not any BB/BC in any of the 3 fleets right?
no BB, BC, or BM in any fleet yes
I just cheesed all 3 of those at once with CV and DD
it's probably easy enough to just run Vestal + Hindenburg 
then again I don't expect many players to have that at Lv 120
Why does haku attacks went from slash attacks from air support to barrages and kamikaze attacks
Had to wiki to remember who Vestal was ngl

?
Cuz her barrage changes with plane loadout
what's a BM?
Battle monitor
battle monitor... lol, those don't count as ships
Battle mage
Pocket Battleships aren't that bad, just DDs with big fuck off guns 
Out of the typical ships I'd be using for OpSi and Late campaign (I have all the top ships relevant for that), Unzen would be the most likely canidate for the new torps right
how good is erebus meta? Or is she about as good as erebus?
BMs are meh, there's nothing about them that is exactly redeeming
Is vestal even worth leveling?
they have CA tech, lol
hell no lol
cheap oil cost 
RLD Tech 
I'm just a like 6 y/o player that happens to have Vestal at Lv 120
yea probably, unless you have someone who has better torps
Which one works best with fighter or w/o?
i maxed them all for early agir coping lol
playing AL at 6 years old, amazing 

but i do have 4 vestals at each lb stage
Did they delete accounts that haven't been checked in 2 years?
fighter vs medium/light armor
Torpedo bomber vs heavy
fighter in campaign
Is San Diego a good replacement for Baltimore in my boss fleet?
Why would they 
And I highly doubt they do
- Sandy Good,
- Baltimore is cope
Idk I'm putting my email but it made a new account
is azuma main fleet or vanguard?
Vanguard
they dont really do the same thing nor are they the same hulltype but Sandy prob categorically beats her wholesale in terms of overall value
CBs are vanguard ships
Alright bosses are beating me and blati is not working
their guns are sorted as "BB" guns, CBs are weird
hull types 
Idk, try logging in with another mail/login option or ask for help in #tech-support
Whats a good vanguard fleet for w13 (with sandy)
Guam, Sandy, laffii maybe
I do not have guam, unfortunately
tough luck
And as well laffy
do a thread if you need more help
laffey 2
so we shouldn’t pick names out of a hat for him to use in w13 
Ik i dont have her
u could just run anchorage, sandy helena
It was the server lol
Bruh
Forgot they were different in progression
Yeah i have all of them alr thanks
trying to decide if I want to grind to 45k, or just stop like at 13k
ok and?
Is this gun good for ships with poor aa?
It's bad and really ugly 
it sucks even as a accelerator gun
can someone show me their wichita meta fleet? I'm not doing enough dmg with mine.....
Not sure I've gotten one gold bp drop all day, hope no one was hoping to farm g7e's

What do rainbow research task mean? Are they like must grab or...?
Who got MVP?
<-
who is that?
yorktown 2
From top to bottom: Kearsarge, Implacable,Yorktown 2, Plymouth,Helena,Sirius
Which one? D-0XX-UL? It's really good but it depends on how many cubes you got
Where do i get Yorktown 2
Limited UR event
which planes for light armor dmg?
skip bc low cubes and for ship u can coin
the more important question
I only got FdG and Gascog avaliable so figured i focus on them?
PR2 is in no way worth it because you can get everything there from other sources more easily
which carriers have a stop skill, Avp, Implac and someone else?
Formi 
Ark royal Retro
AvP
terrible idea because you can coin them
There's really only AvP and Impla
Everything else relies on rng or is just a slow
looks like i need to put together a stop and converge type of fleet for wichita meta
so it's better to focus on a season where not all the ships can be coined like PR4 which is what it should be set to
If you don't have that specific lineup, don't
i have avp
At fs5?
are 4 hour rigging researches good
i think so, yes
Wichita is light, convergings rly aren't that important
I tried out HakuNanoAvP and it does less damage than a triple BB fleet with MK6 
Okie, i moved it to pr4
i'm using triple bb with mk6 and doing only 350k. they are only lvel 10 mk6s
maybe the torpedo vangarud isn't helping much
It depends on which ships also and your vanguard
what do you recommend for vanguard
im really close to 400 mark and i have NJ should i get shinano from here? but there is a slight problem even tho i have NJ im not even close to her MLB 2/4 bullins atm should i still get shinano?
Depends on what you got
season 3 and 4, all the UR ships since unzen
Get Shinano and forget about NJ as a whole, there's better options for UR BBs
@remote yarrow btw, last time u rec i work on anchorage after FdG. Who would u suggest i work on after her? I was thinking about a vanguard since my main fleet can carry when exp farming but not really my vanguard but at end of day, idk...
anybody has the link to the sync calculator?
hmm alright also i have an other question rn i have 340 anchroage bp should i stop selecting her from the preferences if so what do i pick next?
I told you more than that tho 
i have all the pr dr ships through season 4 done. i have all ur ships since Unzen
FdG > Anchorage > Agir > Rest of PR4 > Plymouth
If you don't have the other UR BBs, NJ is still very good.
well this is pretty much my URs anyways
With Vanguard rerunning soon ™️ idk about NJ
are you about to exchange for shinano?
Oooh, u right! Sorry i forgot about that bit and i couldnt find my specific thread anymore.
yeah ill in a week if i pull lights everyday from now on i used pretty much all my resources on alvitr
If you want a strong carrier fleet, shinano is your pick @heady pier
problem is UR bulins for you
Idk I use this, you might replace UvH for Alsace if yours is MLB and maybe Unzen for Plymouth
forgot the image
more like she's the more long term pratical pick because they rarely make gacha UR CVs compared to the 9 rainbow BBs jostling around at TEX
yeah i used everything on alsace and need to get some more bullins ill get the next ur bullin on the Battlepass thing im at 94 at least
Though it's nowhere near oneshot ofc
should i also change my anchorage to Fdg?
Oneshot requires you to have really good gear and most ships
Fleet tech too
mainly max RLD
what do you mean change from anchorage to fdg?
what is the second ship from the top?
for the catch up thing i have about 340 for anchorage and i think it was 343 for needed
finish off anchorage. you need 508
343 is for D30 yee
you need more for fate sim though
you can finish anchorage catchup and then change it to fdg
Isnt Pr4 coinable?
ahh ok i think i misunderstood that one then. ill stay on anch thx
Vanguard,rerunning soon ™️ we don't have a date yet
it is, but not the DRs, and might as well use the catchup
2nd AFCT 
but you can coin the PR and then use the catchup for proto cores
ugh, don't think i have aux plates ready to +13 another table
yeah, you can do that with all the rest of the PR1-PR3 catch up also, and you don't need that many core imo
Still good to have Anchorage asap, but if you wanna minmax and slow down your Anchorage go ahead 
huh, Is the new topedo good for z47?
not even sure what is good to buy with core these days besides champ gun when you skip season 3 research
new mag torp good on everyone
yeah I can see that
The new torpedo is an upgrade from Quad Mag which many ships can use, not only for Z47
just a slight bit for damage
still better than the previous best is good
good on everyone that can use it but Z47 will most likely not be a high prio for it depending on your options
what level is the normal (2nd) stage?
and should i solo or colaition? i see colaition says it gives more rewards?
coalition
50
thanks 
how far apart do you time each cv to sync with AVP reliably?
.2 seconds if I'm not mistaken
Within like 0.8s on the last strike of the battle
AvP wants to be 2nd with the other 2 to be within 0.2 seconds of each other
For hard mode don’t u wanna farm the solo stage? and not coalition? Or Nani 
if you can do it coalition nets you more points
how many maps are there?
5 including SP and EX
Hey im an old player coming back into the game. Does anyone have any advice on what i should be doing. Last time i played the game PR2 was the newest thing 😂
everything? but uhh start with maybe focus 4?
This might help as a reminder
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
Whats 4? XD
And like Unique said, research PR4 https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
oh pr4
we have up to pr6 now, with pr7 coming very soon in terms of research
Well im wondering if i should at least try and finish my PR1 Roon as she only has 2 things left being gather experience I think
eh that can come later
This should be your Research prio
FdG > Anchor > Agir > Rest of PR4 > Plymouth
focus 4...then when you have time you can learn how coining works and why you focused 4
a lot has changed since 2019
Gotcha, I apparently have some decent characters but teambuilding and gear im at a complete loss for
What was decent back in 2019 won't probably hold up to today's standards 
especially if its called Warspite Retrofit
Best stage from 1 to 12 to farm gold?
I have a few t0 units apparently from some tier list site but idk if its up to standard
12+
12-4
Bruh im in 12 - 1 😭
I suggest you go ahead an drop your dock in a thread sorted by level, leaving out commons and rares
12+
12-1 then
you mean this? https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home
It just udated like two days ago
Granted dont treat it like the bible since it only works for campaign up to W12-13
I can do that, where do i make the thread?
Yeah that one
what's the most low oil or oil efficient way to farm on this event
what fleet can 1:1 SP?
why does it only work until w13?
because you have to be good at the game after w13, and the makers of the tier list aren't that good at the game.

point makes no sense
I’m genuinely curious why blaster thinks it doesn’t work for W14/15

Aren't they mostly veteran players who already beat W15 tho
The evaluators I mean, which are the ones who put the tiers
I've never seen a screenshot of their testing, I have my doubts.
3 shimanto guns in a fleet will work as long as it's on different ships right
Question about the event missions. Do you need to uphold the conditions for all 3 battles in hard mode? Or is one battle enough?
yes, not that you should necessarily
you need to uphold them for all 3 fleets
Basically, we have samheart, cheeky, and jimmy, why do we need ectl?
Samheart hasn’t even done W15
uhhhh
yeah, but his guides are great
also, is that true?
ask him
reminder that I need to do w15, so I can feel helpful there
~~Are you mad at them cuz they gave you the shitposter role?
~~
i have no idea how this event is supposed to work. there are 4 or 5 fleets that stack up somehow......
tbh, it hurts a little
throwback to jimmy’s scuffed unzen tests
There are multiple bosses per stage. You need a fleet for each one.
but saying they have no skill is just something
no one asked them to make the tierlist yet they did anyways
with no financial gain
there are many many allegations you can lodge at the ECTL and it's contributors
saying the evaluators don't understand the game is not one of them
and anyway, this is not the place for this sot of discussion
Main weaknesses of ECTL are:
- Often out of date/not updated.
- Limited to campaign performance.
- Does not consider cost.
only thing that annoys me about ECTL is that they keep up a newbie guide that's out of date, and misleading
my reasoning is mainly because after that you cant just throw random bs in, and due to the more compositional nature of W14 and 15, some ships that are relatively lower tier are valued more highly in those worlds due to a need for the niches they fill (Like JdA for example)
the change in gear reccomendations that the tierlist cant exactly convey welll is also another thing that people might not be able to easily tell
but of course that's just my opinion
Saying they don't understand the game is a bit excessive though just due to the nature of a tierlist, even if they have a good basis for tiering (I submit that theirs isn't fantastic) you're going to be sacrificing niche roles
what's the most low oil 1:1 fleet for SP?
Not really annoyed by this itself, the thing that annoys me is that it's on the /guide command when it's outdated 
nothing like recommending farming Hiryu, and Soryu in 20-fucking-24
Time to #1020044605053476994 to get it removed
You only run SP once per day, I wouldn't go too crazy with trying to lower cost on it. Use whatever good ships you have that can 1:1 it.
the hard difficulty map? no need to when oil cap
Oil cap
it's level 100 enemies so you need at least Unicorn and a DDG which only saves 5 oil per battle
you can go lower

so for hard difficulty map, you just fill the 3 fleets or whatever and go
Yes
You can go lower but you're wasting oil by going lower.
Think of it this way. Let's say oil caps at 40 per run (I have no idea what cap is for this event just an example)
If you use a fleet that is 1:1 and uses 15 oil per run, you're saving 25 oil and getting 1x exp.
If you use a fleet that is 3:3 and uses 90 oil, you're saving 50 oil and getting 3x exp.
the oil cap for hard is 25
I don't care about exp
the event stages grant affinity right?
yes
thanks
If all you care about is the event tokens and nothing else whatsoever then go ahead and 1:1 for low oil fleets I guess. That's the only area you can get any sort of advantage by doing low oil.
are the new botes any good?
do these 3 fleets in the hard map get exp and help toward getting season ships?
not particularly
that is exactly the reason why I ask for the lowest oil 
Just for the tech points
oh okay, but the new torp is good right
straight upgrade to the regular german quad mags
can i get fdg lv120 tech before mlb tech
Ok quick question what do I do about my very very full dock.
i think you can but you dont get fleet tech from MLB, only tech points
Also why wouldnt you have her at MLB if you're grinding to lvl 120
because coining is slow 
How many points per run does Hard give? (On Coalition)
Use dupes for Limit Break if they aren't maxed, or if they are MLB retire for Medals
or buy dock space
You got quite a few Bulins too so use them
im only at dev20 and shes at 110
id be making her 120 anyway because id use her in mob
or just wherever i need more bb
I have so many of them. but none of the characters that i have dupes of are lvld and i have 0 books lol
for the event, do you have to start with easy mode?
if you're gonna use her in serious content outside of farming, she's ass before D30
yeah you gotta clear Easy -> Normal -> Hard -> SP -> EX (Optional) in that order to unlock the stages
i asked about her tech, and whether i can get lv120 tech before mlb tech
Use commons for enhancing then, or get dock space if you didn't your gems on random stuff back in the day ofc 
Are you F2P? if so don't buy skins
if that's F2P gems, dont
oh jeebus, buy dockspace
Yeah im a f2p player
You cannot. The ship needs to be max limit break before it can reach level 100, which is when you can start doing cognitive awakening.
Then don't spend you gems on anything more than 3rd Dorm slot + 2nd floor and dock space
Skins,rings,oil,coins,packs,etc are a waste of gems 
Oh, for a PR/DR. Those can reach 120 without being dev30
125 even
sir you can 
I seem to have 4 dorm slots atm, whats the 2nd floor for? just to increase comfort?
improved morale regen
morale mainly
is anything worth farming in this event?
improved morale regen (No XP gain in return though) and it copies the same # of slots as the first floor
No, it basically doubles your dorm slots and has a higher morale recovery than first floor without having the passive exp part
so get the event points for the milestones and then we are done?
Ok well ive bought the 2nd floor
Is it worth using BPs to get anchorage to fs5? Or just coin her when you can?
you can consider this another 2 dead weeks 
then full send all 1.5k of those gems into dock space and nothing else
Then go dump everything else in dock space if you don't plan on spending money any time soon
also if you’re looking for more gems look at memento
her fate sim itself is low prio but you'd want to do it to get her face research out of the way
just coin it, no need to specifically convert blank BPs for it
I want to spend money on anchorage skin but both unavailable and not event limited 😭 wiki doesn’t help
Alright yeah will do thank you very much.
Just wait till Black Friday in November
Good, because i'm going to be pretty busy and I still need to grind out yet another month of opsi
does 2x topup refresh
every anniv yes
Yes, every EN anniversary
alright when is that
Mid August
ya it'll only take about a day or 2 to grind out the event, not much going for it
i have time still alr then
Should I develop Roon next as a stepping stone to FdG! Or just dump elite bulins into existing IB ships?
i did roon on the way to fdg
you won't use roon for long but that's true for a lot of ships
The latter first, if you don't have enough then you can maybe do Roon
These are my IB vanguard ships
I'm guessing you already did Divergent Chessboard, you didn't 
you can use tech ships to store your gear
Nope haven’t touched it
How much are u off by
476/630
~~2 locked karlsruhes
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Was mlb’ing shhhh don’t judge
Fixing dock now
8000 event points gets you the improved torps, and everything else is whatevs
Gold plates seems important too tbh
I mean doesn’t hurt to grind 5 more runs and get the free ship
There's 40 arrays from missions 
yeah, i'll get the ship
So i tried using 1:1 fleets for sp stage and.. is it usually this brutal to run 1:1 fleets?
are you in a position to use three bad vanguards?
Am i forced to run 4 different fleets for sp?
that was for ravenclaw
if URs are struggling to 1:1 then it’s a gear/skill issue
Pardon my lack of understanding but why are you asking me that?
For Roon, the assumption is you have 6 good vanguards and would need to switch to 3 bad ones you showed. Some may just be bad because they don't have enough levels.
Yeah I mean as you saw my options are limited 😂
Am i forced to run 4 different fleets for sp?
yes
theres no event shop?
yes there no event shop
so if you have 3 AR at about Lv 100, and 3 strong vanguard you can knock out a lot of missions 
What tier is Alvitr right now?
She'll probably be around Tier 2
So worth getting or just collection ship?
Better ask the ECTL ppl 
exactly
Why is this btw?
You did some testing?
Is there any ECTL in here?
I'm going off of what the evaluators said lol
I meant over at their discord 
no they've been persecuted out of existence
either way if you want tier listing talk go to their discord the link is publically shared on their website
how do you edit auto sortie again?
tf you doing here
I've been here lel XD
Role tab i guess, Wdym specifically by edit
like I wanna make my fleet two attack the boss
that's what the role tab is for
instead of fleet one fighting everything
okay i forgot how to do it and ask, mb guys
Nah nothing wrong with asking
there's oil cap, right 
HARD one cost less oiil then the other 2
for hard mode and SP yee
checks out
is cheshire worth it?
if you need a AA carry yes
She's basically Portland but with lots of AA
if I lack good boss dps, should I go for impeccable or new jersey? on the github, it says impeccable has good anti boss
Where's the stage with all the challenges?
i mean i have 354 prints for chesire but idk if its worth my time becuase i have tons of AA carrys
I think she can tank w15?
Ex stage is the one with all 5 bosses
she's a poverty option at that point
guam just better
I mean not everyone has Guam or laff2
I think it's Arts Building - Hard?
the ones where you have to not use certain hulltypes?
those are on the Hard difficulty
Is portland a ship that will last in W14+?
and you can cheese all three of them at once with CV/DD fleets
by that point you should have better options than her

Got one better

Repair ships 
those are indeed repair ships
Time to head back to the fox mines
I guess the question is how do you enable the hard stage?
Wdym
By beating Easy then Normal? 
it's just a node
I did but there are only 2?
did you do normal?
Should be the third building if you did normal
this is sequential
I could've sworn I did it during the story. Maybe it was easy.
Well Story is a different thing
story progression has no impact on your stages whatsoever
anyone else getting stuck on 99.39% loading on the 4th story stage?
yea i had to close it and it counted as completed...for several stages
yeah same ;_; ill have to read the story through memories once its fixed
stop at Phase 23, or is there something ya'll think is worth pushing past the ship? 
Is new banner worth pulling?
or is it skippable
Mostly collection, they don't seem that good 
Maybe the plates at 45k?
but yeah these rewards don't look so good 
at most I'd rather just hard stop at 25
Current banner is worse than the previous so
the banner is only worth faction/fleet tech, and collection
I'm surprised on how "meh" they are/look
that's what it feels like
But certain thing happened 
now we have anson but German dd
san diego ofc she's tier ex
You are comparing 2 different Hulls, but I guess Sandy
What's the easiest way to get illustrious
Medal shop
The tierlist brainwash is real on this one
sandy for the usefulness in w13, 14 and 15
lusty you can get in shop, recommend getting her soon™️ once you plan to clear w15
Thank you!!
Check pins
do note sandy needs investment in the form of her UR retrofit and her recent, unique augment
Check pins
Even without retrofit aug is a huge boost
I’ll check pins when you do W15
you can live with sandy aug no/partial retrofit for a while and shes still good
yeah but just saying since retrofit is a big deal as well in the stages i mentioned
yea its a big improvement but since early game can be cleared by almost anything theres no harm in dragging along ships with potential
true dat, fair points
wanna ask,is the event milestone torpedo good?
Maybe I’m missing it, but do we have ship evaluations for the current event? Or are these brand new ships?
ship evals take time and will be up in the datamine
Brand new ships
They look horrendous tho
That stinks. Alvitr has got a pretty cool design.
That reminds me. I need to work on Hood. My only BC is Kongou muse
New ships Worth it??
Not particularly unless for waifu
Eh
Check pins 
can i stack dorm and playground
Playground? Only know onsen 
Is hard the most pt efficient this time around?
We dont
They are coming soon tm as stated in the pins
No proper evaluations yet, especially when they havent even been out for 12 hours
When to stop farming event?
When you get enough points to get good stuff/what you want
which WA do i farm for sakura empire tech
Is the torp farmable?
ti has oil cap, so sure
would not farm gear this event it is just awful, go to phase 25
how many prints to dev25 agir
None
You farm the campaign maps
/devbp
New torp nope
it should take more than a day really
It's not farmable but do get the one that is available
i have a funny idea
go to pr3
build cheshire to finish research mission
advance to pr4
get combat data packs
use on the ships in pr4
don't use CDP like that...
Bad idea lol
Awful idea if it involves using CDPs 
just get proto cores n get a tenrai or something
fdg catchup will net me one protocore UR gear
Fdg catchup is a bad option for protocore unless it's already maxed
but i can coin fdg
Yes but using that bp on fdg will make her usable 15 days faster
i also dont need her right now because im not pushing w14 yet
i get conflicting advice alot
Wdym 
Catchup is really just personal perference, some people prefer to protocore it, some prefer to use it, there is no right or wrong answer
If he wants to protocore it then let him lol
yesterday they told me it was a good idea
We've never adviced using FdG's catchup for protocore 
I never advise convert dr catchup to protocore
how many event points I get from daily mission each day?
750, 1550 with SP stage
Im surprised one of the regulars didn’t verbally smack whoever recommended that.

tbh it also depends on what BB UR you have
there are some questionable people here
but usually you'd wanna get FdG up and running ASAP too
FdG is UR though so personal recommendation is to use it like samheart pointed out
He has Alsace and maybe Soyuz?
Not too sure about the second one 
then it's pretty 50:50
yes i have both u mentioned
But then again you are delaying your FdG by 2 weeks 
2 weeks is nothing, and alsace+soyuz are enough for whatever he is doing
Who you could be using for a BB fleet if you don't already have one
i need better vanguard anyway rather than backlines
But w/e 
nelson 🏃🏼♂️
opsi is fine for me, i 2 shot stronghold bosses and abyssals
There's no wrong answer but its just not efficient
Exp is farmable, protocore isn't
I made a further note here
How long is Alvtir build time?
Well nobody never recommend protocore ing fdg anyway
It's recommended to do on pr1/2/3 never dr
Can't find anything in pins
Check the Datamine 
And that gives enough protocore so can use DR catch-up mormally
In any case 5:05:00 
Straight answer is better than making the one who asked doing tour all around internet man
Wdym all around internet
it's literally 3 or 4 clicks away why do you gotta get mad 
Also I don't remember it in my head so that's why I'll tell people to go there
im kinda close to perm UR exchange, NJ or shinano
Also this 
Because.. I seen that same 'pin' answer for about 100 times already
Yes because
- It's in there
- We don't remember
And takes my precious time
How about my precious time then
im gonna take a gander that its shinano i need given my 3 UR BBs + vanny soonish
Unless you expect me to spend my precious time to go to that page and check
Then come back here to tell you
yes shinano is the more solid choice if you don't have either
I'm feeling madge today 
no madge, it's friday
I mean like everything in 1 datamine sheet is already as less effort as it can be
oh alright, wife jersey ill come get you next year i suppose
Unless you want me to put everything scattered here instead
~~They gotta spend their precious time drawing some anime stuff I guess ~~ 
I’m real excited for vanny, hood and Nelson served me well but it’s time for the big girls to play 😂
FdG is kinda a big girl 
is vanguard always act as a tank/support for the backline or can they do damage too
Tank?
that's not what she does, she buffs your other BBs
frontline vanguard
vanguard as opposed to main fleet
Oh
got confused with what Ravenclaw said about Vanguard(the ship)
i thought vanguard the ship was referred to as vanny
they can do damage too. but not as much as the backline most of the time
Yeah there's only a handful of vanguards that can do quite a bit of dmg
Your damage is mostly coming from Mainline
are those the research and gacha URs
i just started playing the game is rerolling worth it?
No, you are gonna waste your time by doing so
most of them yes. like unzen, hindenburg, etc
On top of the game not having "beginner pulls"
i know theres some gold supports like helena and kazagumo
In any case welcome to the game, you might wanna give this a read, any further questions are welcome in this channel 
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
Helena is an Epic that retros to gold, like unicorn. Just in case you don’t have them and are looking for them.
your usual suspects tend to be Kazagumo, Sirius, Helena, Plymouth, Aurora...there's more that escape my memory 
Wait Avrora or Aurora?
where do people get epic from, it's Elite
I meant Aurora 
Autocorrect usually
i mean most games use epic for purple rarity
avrora can be good 
droppin bears
ty
Yeah, what blob said, most games color code Epic rarity stuff with Purple
EN the only one using elite anyway
We get real worked up over word swaps in here though.
C → R → SR → SSR → UR 
Mans had to one up everyone.
