#gameplay-help

1 messages · Page 177 of 1

torn raft
#

how many times can the gem to oil price doubles per day if i keep using gems to buy oil (just asking, won't actually buy)

strange sphinx
#

hhmmm should I give her the scepter for her Augment

viscid swift
#

Either works and for W13 the difference will be minimal

vale spindle
#

what happens when there are 2 enemies on field, 1 has the barrage burn, 1 has the spreaded burn, and the tick for burn spread happens again

#

does the duration extend or refresh, or does nothing happen

#

cause the desc is not clear

#

thank

#

is it extended or refreshed im not clear WarZoom

steady beacon
#

Has this already been answered?
Standard gold quad mag as 14 homing range, 48 deg/s turning angle
Or, at least, I'm pretty sure of that last point

plain saffron
#

Hi guys how do i speedrun the event before maint

sweet delta
#

give up and wait for war archive

steady beacon
#

That's the neat part: you don't

plain saffron
steady beacon
plain saffron
#

As gold quad mag

#

Is there any CN server that's not from bilibili?

#

Like doesn't have the bilibili login

#

Or there's just no way to play as guest

strange sphinx
#

ahm do we have an archive for parallel event?

viscid swift
plain saffron
#

Alright I'll try time machine

steady beacon
#

... I presume Parallel Superimposition?
If so, no

#

Hasn't even been rerun yet, in fact

strange sphinx
sweet delta
#

Z47
With every two AoAs, targeting nearest, 135 dmg, scaling on 100% of TRP, 100% coefficient,
basically a quad mag kai with lower damage and only 100% efficiency

AoA
shrapnel reaim at enemy,
20 dmg, scaling on 100% of FP, 100% coefficient,
32 bullets of Normal ammo, 105/70/40% armor, 100±0 range, 18 velocity.

crude kelp
#

New event is sp event?

idle pewter
#

where did you find this did you make it yourself

viscid swift
crude kelp
#

Whats this?

viscid swift
#

Frostfall

#

If you didn't play that then this will be a new event format for you

keen sable
#

30 ship raid?

crude kelp
strange sphinx
viscid swift
# strange sphinx what's that?
Azur Lane Wiki

Frostfall is the first Coalition Northern Parliament-themed event, featuring three new Northern Parliament shipgirls and a new Hot Spring-themed furniture set.
Also featured are one Easy, one Normal, one Hard, an SP, and an EX map in which Frostfall Pts can be acquired and used to unlock milestone rewards and unlock Intel stages. Additionally, ...

tame jungle
#

Can you switch gear between fleets like in opsi for this?

strange sphinx
#

hah, I feel like I don't remembered that yet I have limited ships and the bathhouse, Why I can't remember the event

tame jungle
#

Zamn

cobalt rapids
#

is coalition good for sub aff farming like raid?

calm rose
#

Is their fleet tech in the pins? RichelieuThink

ember totem
#

Blaster wrote it at as
BB HP+2 FP+1
SS EVA+2 TRP+1
DD AA+1 HP+1 FP+2 (total of both)

calm rose
#

Oh! Thanks KievPray

forest palm
#

generally good tech across the board

vale apex
#

best pr ship in pr6?

forest palm
#

Shimanto

vale apex
#

should i get her before hakuryuu

cobalt rapids
#

dev 0 ships are useless

forest palm
#

do you have any prints in reserve?

keen sable
vale apex
#

shimanto worth getting?

cobalt rapids
#

when shes d30 yes

vale apex
#

is she better than helena

cobalt rapids
#

diff roles

strange sphinx
#

Hmmm how good is marco poloEssexWheeze

forest palm
#

yes

vale apex
#

also kearsgae worth getting if i have soyuz and alsace?

forest palm
#

not really much to say though about Marco, high damage mob BB, somewhat generic, so good yes? replaceable? also yes

vale apex
#

what best ship in pr5 for newcomer mission

plain saffron
#

new patch

#

eh just typo fix

viscid swift
fresh tangle
#

Long maint day is annoying here in SE Asia. 2pm-10pm. At least I’ll finish anchorage today then onto FdG I think

viscid swift
#

You'll unlock all the PR ships eventually and past a certain point unlock order does not matter

kind needle
#

Seyd good or nah?

forest palm
#

similar to Hood

#

it's react like unique's that sometimes make me feel like perhaps we don't need reacts in this channel

kind needle
#

Could I disable the animation for battle end? Kinda annoying

forest palm
#

animation for battle end? ShiWoke

kind needle
#

I mean the one with shows the mvp

plain saffron
kind needle
#

Aight, lemme find it

#

Which mobbing ships have good preload?

forest palm
#

just default to Percy, or Uni, only really need 1 pre load

stark quiver
#

were the stages and sp in frostfall easy

forest palm
#

outside of Special Stages, and EX no event has been really "difficult"

kind needle
#

I'm 800 short for seyd LongCryland

calm rose
#

You had time to farm so... WarPat

agile sky
#

Are event stages worth farming for exp like 12-1, or nah?

#

like maybe D-4 to farm exp and event currency? Or does have to be done separately?

calm rose
#

Event stages are worth farming for the currency. W12 still have better exp/coins

eternal basalt
#

Raids don't do D stuff

forest palm
#

we're not getting a raid event though

eternal basalt
#

But everyone says its like Frostfall ShimaThink

sinful elk
calm rose
#

I wouldn't do above 12-4 because I want to level my stuff without unicorn.

And there's a coin/exp chart for the campaign stages.

#

I don't have the screenshot doe ChampyXD

plain saffron
stark quiver
#

Is rpg the hero event

plain saffron
#

Iirc people call it modified old CM

stark quiver
#

And were there new ships I honestly forgot

inner delta
#

oh yeah frostfall is not a raid

#

it's pre bad tho for exp and stuff

forest palm
#

Frostfall gives like 4 difficulties, you add w/e modifiers you want for points, and you repeatedly punch a boss for points

#

iirc

stark quiver
#

Oh yes those

plain saffron
#

the most hated event because people need to think to even setup their fleet

inner delta
#

it do? MutsukiStare

clever sun
#

Is new event good?

stark quiver
#

So frost fall hard with modifiers?

dusk maple
#

frostfall had modifiers?

stark quiver
#

WarShrug didn’t play it

plain saffron
#

People can't braindead choose fleet then afk farm

#

Need to configure your fleet so it's bad

eternal basalt
plain saffron
dusk maple
forest palm
stark quiver
plain saffron
#

And raid don't have 4 boss per stage

ember totem
stark quiver
plain saffron
#

It's literally old cm but in stages

eternal basalt
#

It even has the raid layout on wiki TorricelliSad

stark quiver
#

Brain dead ass event

ember totem
plain saffron
#

Blame wiki then
It doesn't even use raid files. It have it's own stage file
Rpg meanwhile is reskinned raid
Used raid files
And even have the same 3 years old raid UI fleet selection bug

#

Yongshi pls fix

stark quiver
#

This event structure is gonna be a pain to learn

plain saffron
#

That's why people hate it EssexWheeze

forest palm
#

it's really not that bad

ember totem
#

yeah it's just tedious that's all

plain saffron
#

It's not hard but it's different than the rest so people hate it because now they need to read and understand

stark quiver
#

I’ll do what I did for cruise ship event, just click around until something happens, then spam rainbows

plain saffron
#

Did we have tutorial in pins i forgot

inner delta
#

no cuz it's just build fleet and go in

eternal basalt
#

It's raid but more fleet then 1... what's so difficult about that?

cyan sierra
#

As long as you can grind Sub affection like the usual raid events, this is perfect for my KMs subs.

stark quiver
#

Do fleets have to be particularly strong? Like harbiter level fleets?

inner delta
#

ofc not, it's only event

forest palm
#

the event is really simple

inner delta
#

event is never that lv of difficulties

stark quiver
#

Maybe I’m just overthinking it

plain saffron
#

Bcs it's not raid.... It's not even close to raid

calm rose
#

That's asking too much from casual ChampyXD

eternal basalt
#

/wiki frostfall

plain saffron
blissful hamlet
#

Huh is this coalition event?

fresh spire
#

Is the most recent French battleship good at all?

forest palm
#

Alsace? yes

fresh spire
eternal basalt
fresh spire
#

Like she good for boss mob and how good is she

plain saffron
#

Only thing i can think close to raid is it have easy/med/hard/SP/EX naming

#

But that like saying virtual tower is SP event like hms hunter event because devs use same name

eternal basalt
#

Yes, like From Zero to HeroNagaThonk

plain saffron
#

That's meanwhile literally reskinned raid

#

Minus server wide boss

reef flume
fresh spire
plain saffron
reef flume
fresh spire
plain saffron
#

Anyway ignoring everything else
How can you say frost fall with 4 boss per stage is remotely close to raid even which have 1 boss per fights

#

Rpg doesn't have those

reef flume
# fresh spire Is her barrage any good?

Damage is good even tho not the best damage (but still good). However it can consistently strike multiple targets and the lightning that strike the attack target does good damage too. Also, the target of the barrage takes more 12% more damage

#

In mob it's useful to destroy multiple targets or at least nearly killing them, while in boss is great cause you'll strike a single target (even tho some stages have two bosses) and that target will take 12% more damage

#

U should deploy Alsace with a Iris Libre or Vichya Dominion vanguard ship tho (although it's not necessary) so you can activate her second skill faster

crimson glacier
#

she doesnt care about her faction at all

reef flume
#

Ik. But if u deploy her with a vanguard Iris Libre/Vichya Dominion ship, her second skill will activate faster

crimson glacier
#

and will make your fleet worse most of the time

reef flume
#

I use Mogador in my case

#

You can also make her second skill activate by making her hit an enemy with her secondary gun yes, but it takes more time to do it and it's more unlikely

vagrant spoke
#

What if there are no suicide boats? Would her second skill activate at all?

reef flume
#

That's the point

crimson glacier
#

if your vanguards are good enough at killing production ships then no

reef flume
crimson glacier
#

but the thing is that the skill isnt useful

#

so it really doesnt matter

reef flume
#

It literally makes the dmg debuff last until the battle endsEhhssex

inner delta
#

you already applied the holy judgement skill with red skill

crimson glacier
#

yeah and that isnt useful

inner delta
#

yeah just make her fire sync with the other bbs

#

the infinite duration is not relevant enough

#

if brest/mogador is the better pick for the fight sure but if not it's not worth going all the way to use them just to make the duration infinite

vagrant spoke
#

Wait I’m confused, what makes Alsace so good? Is it just her stats or her skills or both?

crimson glacier
#

she is just strong

crimson glacier
#

eh not really

#

she is just standard dmg dealer

vagrant spoke
#

So if a BB can inflict burn with skills, is there a point in using a HE gun?

crimson glacier
#

i dont think her skill burn counts as normal burn

#

but its kinda irrelevant when you would use AP on heavy and med anyway

inner delta
#

her util is from the red skill, enemy take 12% more dmg

reef flume
#

I still have to understand how her second barrage activates

plain saffron
#

I just treat burn as free extra dmg
Since you prioritize using gun type depending on armor time. Since burn dmg is still lower than using ap gun for med/heavy armor

crimson glacier
#

when your ships go low hp it activates

reef flume
#

Ah okok

plain saffron
#

did JP maint started yet?

inland shoal
#

Are you sure you mean started?

whole crypt
#

we started 3 hours ago

plain saffron
#

what time it ended usually jp time

whole crypt
#

3 more to go

plain saffron
#

that will do i guess

crisp estuary
whole crypt
#

so what's with the quad mag kai

inland shoal
#

It's a quàd mag with a bit more dmg and slightly longer homing range

plain saffron
#

does....jp not run on english devices

whole crypt
#

I'm on a ROG7, does that count

plain saffron
#

hmmm prob need to wait a while

plain saffron
whole crypt
#

might still be doing that system language thingy

#

no idea didn't start game up, let me checb

#

it's up 760MBs

plain saffron
#

thanks

plain saffron
whole crypt
#

guest as in?

#

not sure if you can get in without any binds now but do you actually need to get in-game

plain saffron
#

nvm figured it out there's no guest

blissful hamlet
#

why is the datamine not translated yet

crimson glacier
#

pretty sure it is

crisp estuary
#

Filler banner or filler banner?

blissful hamlet
#

huh it magically translated when I reload

strange sphinx
#

hmmm how good iz the new quad mag?

cobalt rapids
#

better than quad mags

atomic abyss
plain saffron
blazing shale
crimson glacier
#

lol

tawny dirge
#

maybe it's too greed of me wanting a high damage on meta with auto mode and no zwei

blazing shale
#

Does Alsace exceed on med armor and Zwei on heavy?

#

Or are both optimal on heavy

crimson glacier
#

both are good on all

atomic abyss
#

I mean here's the thing

#

You'll always use Zwei on BB comps tho
Cos of her black hole

copper pine
#

just slap in zwei, vanguard and musashi

atomic abyss
crimson glacier
#

that choice is kinda meaningless

patent pivot
#

Zwei+mash comps are just worse than dual buffers, truly don't understand why everyone says that

crimson glacier
#

does it matter when zwei+2 UR BBs will beat anything basically

#

it doesnt matter at all what combination you use

inner delta
#

yeah it doesn't matter

crimson glacier
#

its harder to make it not perform

inner delta
#

even if you fuck up the timing like vanguard goes last still kill arbiter BuckyPrideZoom so like it really truly doesn't matter

whole crypt
#

instructions unclear yamato gun on Vanguard and confetti on 2 URS

elfin hollow
#

Amagi can get CV for JP anniversary?

hallow iron
#

Is this next event a new one or rerun

plain saffron
#

New

hallow iron
uncut oar
#

is my computer being weird or is quadmag kai name not tl'd yet on datamine

#

I'm suspecting it's my pc being weird, but sanity check

cobalt rapids
#

name is not translated

#

ppl will be Omegalilwoo if name is tranlated and ingame name will be diff since no EN predl up now

uncut oar
#

also remind me rq why does the black hole matter on bis2?

cobalt rapids
#

same reason like implac freeze

#

substantial boost to geo hitrate

crisp estuary
uncut oar
#

I figured it was a slow but not similar to full timestop. today I learn

crisp estuary
#

but what about anemo hitrate

cobalt rapids
#

its better than a freeze if theres more than one target but timing is tighter

whole crypt
#

sandy also just scoffs in your face for that in leo CM

uncut oar
#

Sandy numba wan after all

#

insert mental image of sandy gif here

fresh tangle
#

Any idea of when bismark zwei will be available again?

#

Feel like I’m missing the goat ship

whole crypt
#

whenever Vanguard reruns add another year or so

rapid grail
#

Very rough but you get the point

fresh tangle
rapid grail
fresh tangle
rapid grail
fresh tangle
rapid grail
fresh tangle
#

Yeah naming a ship that definitely causes confusion but I understand it’s a real ship so

sacred skiff
#

Does anyone remember if these multi fleet coalition raid type event lowers morale per sortie for your fleets used?

fresh tangle
#

A battleship called vanguard 😮‍💨

whole crypt
whole crypt
fresh tangle
#

Where’s that list of gear you should have before you start making the fancy gear lab stuff? I’ve accrued hundreds of boxes and plan on opening them and sorting stuff out properly after maintenance

whole crypt
#

KMS box for quad mags and maybe get yourself some catapults I guess

#

roombas remain a good AA option

fresh tangle
#

I remember Sakura has the elite shells

whole crypt
#

you'll replace them with white shells form core shop eventually so up to you

#

trying to open all your boxes is a rather futile exercise unless there's something you want in mind

sweet merlin
#

how long is maint?

fresh tangle
fresh tangle
whole crypt
fresh tangle
frank pulsar
whole crypt
#

I just make it a point to call Vanguard Vanguard and vanguards vanguards

whole crypt
fresh tangle
whole crypt
#

EX chip reward is still just first boss

#

patch notes lied

strange sphinx
sweet merlin
#

what new/rerun contnet is coming

whole crypt
#

new event is basically frostfall reskinned

#

oh right frostfall can't spam crossfleet -.-

eternal basalt
#

Neither can a raid, 1 fleet

whole crypt
#

yeh but raid norm is fast and hard is 1 fight

eternal basalt
#

Can you still do one fleet but get punisahed for it? NagaThonk

slender heart
#

If
Backline is Bzwei/Alsace/Vanny, which of these two vanguards setup would you run?
Agir/Mog/Ply or Agir/Hindy/Ply
And why?

crimson glacier
#

hindy coz it isnt mog

whole crypt
eternal basalt
#

3x affection though and xp ShimaThink

rapid grail
patent pivot
#

At perfect gear testing is still incomplete. But very likely hinde > mog even under ideal circumstances (only 1 target ever)

eternal basalt
#

Submarines AkagiLUL

slender heart
patent pivot
#

Total fleet dmg

#

Hinde comps were like 5% better iirc but that was not with perfect gear

#

And also with old backline comp so with soy there now idk

rapid grail
slender heart
patent pivot
rapid grail
patent pivot
slender heart
patent pivot
#

Ye

slender heart
#

Ah ok. Tysm

patent pivot
#

In hinde favour*

steady beacon
#

@whole crypt , did you end up getting to check this fleet?

whole crypt
#

I'm sticking with it now but only 1/5 last night

#

counts on 2 procs anyway so 36%, fair game WarShrug

slender heart
steady beacon
#

MutsukiHyperStare But isn't at least 2 procs like 60ish%

cobalt rapids
#

like 50

steady beacon
#

I'm not tripping, am I?

silk sphinx
#

Seems right

#

You have to take into account that for instance first and second could be scans, or second and third, or first and third

#

Those are separate mutually exclusive events so their probabilities have to be added together

dusk maple
#

Haven't done highschool maths in 8 years, kinda rusty PortDoll

whole crypt
#

eh what was it again, 3c2?

cobalt rapids
#

its just 3

silk sphinx
#

I didn’t know the choose function was called ncr though…

whole crypt
#

lemme excel it, can't work it out in my head PortDoll

cobalt rapids
#

pilicas is right

inner delta
whole crypt
#

well the day before I was 3/3 on that comp so 🤷‍♂️

silk sphinx
#

The math is not that complicated

hard mesa
#

whats .648 mean?

whole crypt
#

I clearly saw Helena not going off on yesterday's runs anyway

#

64.8% chance to get at least 2 procs of Helena out of 3

cobalt rapids
#

but does helena survive consistently for 3rd Noteshiro

whole crypt
#

quite

plain saffron
#

are hk server diff than CN server?

sage nebula
#

any gifs for alvitr barrages?

whole crypt
#

isn't HK shared with TW

sage nebula
#

the spear throw is weird, is that one hit going forward and one hit when it returns?

whole crypt
#

I don't remember a HK server release

plain saffron
#

are TW catchup with CN?

whole crypt
#

still behind and catching up with blazing pace last I heard

keen sable
plain saffron
#

Tbh idk what server is this

whole crypt
#

it's not TW?

plain saffron
#

is that CN CN

whole crypt
#

wait that's simplified Chinese should be CN

keen sable
#

shouldn't there be like 100 server if so...

plain saffron
#

wechat bind says mainland china so idk

keen sable
#

translate one of the server names

sage nebula
#

just to clarify, if she lands 3 hits in one activation, does she get her buff? or does it mean it has to activate 3 times?

whole crypt
fresh tangle
plain saffron
#

huh so there's self published and bilibili published version

whole crypt
#

looks like it

keen sable
fresh tangle
plain saffron
#

idle mode uses local time now

#

and the dialog is not the usual box, it's like subtitle at bottom

#

time to buy a small monitor and put AL there for aesthetic

plain saffron
stone sluice
inland shoal
plain saffron
elfin thunder
#

Is there data mine for the fleet tech?

plain saffron
#

it's the 3rd column right

eternal moth
whole crypt
#

those are probably the non-official servers

plain saffron
#

hmm i see, the published is named manjuu, with package name com.hkmanjuu

#

whatever as long as it's synced

vale spindle
#

hi guys!

#

Welcome to Little Academy

Links

FAQ

New Event Format?

Check datamine for more details.

Oil Cap?

Arts Building - 25 surface / 16 subs
Athletic Field- 40 surface / 16 subs
No clearing rewards are on any of the stages.

Best Places to Farm?

Spam the highest stage you can do (Arts > School > Admin) repeatedideally in coalition for more rewards). Athletic Field is only more oil efficient than Arts if you can 1:1 everything.

Once you get the Torpedo, it isn't worth farming this event for anything else.

How To Get Improved Quadruple 533mm Magnetic Torpedo?

Point Milestone Rewards.

Should I pull for these ships?

Reasons you should pull for the ships, in no particular order:

  • Waifu
  • Collection
  • Better than some permanent options at their hull type (only for gold ships, check the evaluations linked above for more information).

*Note: There are 2 more UR events scheduled for 2024, plus potential (unconfirmed) UR rerun events, spend cubes wisely.

more info coming soon ™️

#

@inland shoal pin plz

plain saffron
#

instructions unclear where is D3

vale spindle
#

wait its an sp event

plain saffron
#

frostfall event

wispy pendant
#

What do we think of the new ships on paper review?

plain saffron
vale spindle
plain saffron
#

oh wow there's this

#

did they show tutorial for this event

eternal basalt
#

Prob that alterred AkagiLUL

whole crypt
#

9 oil vs 75 oil ShiSleep

inner delta
#

yeah the reward is dogshit

whole crypt
#

yeh fondly reminded why I hated Frostfall

vale spindle
#

I edited pins to include frostfall stuff

blissful hamlet
#

There's event shop in this event?

#

The pin mentioned event shop 🤓

eternal basalt
#

Slap samheart and say where AkagiLUL

whole crypt
#

yeh hard enemies are lv100 0LB vanguard won't cut it

rose whale
#

is nagato a must have in fleet of hakuryu + shinano? if not, who can replace her? 😄

cobalt rapids
#

musashi

strange sphinx
#

weeeeeee I hope I havw enough oil

vale spindle
soft raft
rose whale
#

thanks RenownThumbsUp

stark quiver
#

About the sp is more efficient when 1:1, do they mean unicorn and whatever destroyer?

plain saffron
steady beacon
#

Emojistorm EssexWheeze
True to form

steady beacon
plain saffron
#

hmm sometimes alt how to spell her have spear doesn't return

plain saffron
#

alright that's all barrages

#

bye

sage nebula
#

Do you know if Alivie's spear can hit the same enemy more than once? It seems to spin so idk if each spin is a hit

whole crypt
#

the bigger problem is hard is just really dogshit

steady beacon
# stark quiver Got any ideas ?

Honestly, if I remember Frostfall correctly, I'm pretty sure I used An Shan + Seydlitz in one fleet and got bodied by planes, only being saved by Seyd's invincibility
Prob don't go in with zero AA, but apart from that I can't remember anything

steady beacon
plain saffron
#

the spin is just cosmetic

whole crypt
#

I'm just doing Ranger/Mahan + Erebus/Mahan on normal

plain saffron
#

btw how good z47

#

😔

stark quiver
whole crypt
#

why not

stark quiver
#

It’s tragic , cuz I didn’t have time to level up farming fleets

#

And even if I did , 0 skill leveled

undone plover
#

they are fine with 0 skill usually
i dont know if new event will be different NagaThonk

plain saffron
#

time to quit AL

eager mulch
#

no immediate powercreep, life ruined

whole crypt
#

you probably want to level the zombie heal skills on the Mahans if you want to use them

stark quiver
#

Funny thing is I don’t think I even have mahan unlocked

whole crypt
#

Mahans are just Cassin and Downes

viscid swift
#

Mahan isn't in game
Mahan means the class i.e. Cassin and Downes

stark quiver
#

Ah, cuz I remember I heard of a mahan ship, I may have mixed it up with wows

south sequoia
#

is banner 1 cube or 2 cube

eager mulch
#

2

whole crypt
#

should be heavy based

inner delta
#

yea heavy

keen sable
eager mulch
#

heavy pool means amagi-chan can drop SmolAmagiDance

wispy pendant
#

Do we know map drops yet?

inland shoal
night pumice
#

should I skip this event and save cubes for UR

wispy pendant
inner delta
#

that's prolly the better option yes

wispy pendant
#

Do we think the new Z ship is meh? I wanted her to be good, but haven’t heard anything amazing about her yet

patent pivot
#

They're all great FT

wispy pendant
#

If the map drops the new torp, this is going to be a lot of farming.

steady beacon
#

Nah, Nagami already checked that out
Gold drop from hard is G7e

whole crypt
#

quad mag kai is milestone, hard drops G7e

wispy pendant
whole crypt
#

which is just as well because hard is also 🚮

steady beacon
#

Same tbh
I remember Frostfall's utter crap drop rate for the Tashkent gun
Don't want to think about farming the new torp

wispy pendant
#

I was coping it would be new torp with hvar drop rates

whole crypt
#

obviously not happening

undone plover
#

is the new torp just a straight upgrade to quad mag? 8% dmg diff?

fresh tangle
wispy pendant
night pumice
wispy pendant
steady beacon
keen sable
soft raft
whole crypt
#

well the ships aren't amazeballs if you're not after waifu, there'll probably be some time to save again before JP anniv, the problem is what they'll drop for EN anniv

wispy pendant
#

Either totally skip and do 1 light build a day, or do moderate pulling, but UR rerun is vanguard, don’t miss her

sharp socket
#

does vanguard work well with hood on mob

wispy pendant
whole crypt
#

I don't cope or speculate for that shit

keen sable
night pumice
wispy pendant
keen sable
#

hard mode is easy.

whole crypt
#

even if you don't want something that follows pattern but at least don't cope for something that's completely unfeasible

sharp socket
#

she is my only BC option so perhaps

whole crypt
#

you don't need Hood, you just need a BC for those cases, unless you only have Hood

wispy pendant
#

Vanguard UR bb is still meta for buffing BB fleet for boss fights.
@sharp socket

soft raft
# sharp socket does vanguard work well with hood on mob

Vanguard doesnt really work for campaign in terms of getting the most out of her kit since her main value comes out of syncing with other BBs to buff their damage

And Syncing isnt something you want to do much in campaign, much less when Hood generally wants twin barrel guns to get as many barrage procs as possible

sharp socket
#

even without other royal navy ship?

soft raft
#

that is a nothingburger part of her kit

sharp socket
#

i can give her yellow and black shell too right

wispy pendant
#

Vanguard UR BB is a BB buffer for BB fleets. She doesn’t need other Royal ships

whole crypt
#

did Vanguard even have any skills that does anything with HMS ships?

soft raft
inner delta
#

10% fp for ply

undone plover
#

does she have the best aux guns? considering they always crit? MutsukiHyperStare

sharp socket
#

yellow shell will fulfill royal navy gear req right

keen sable
#

vanguard uni 15 meta

whole crypt
soft raft
whole crypt
#

the less plane damage is whatever, nothing else does squat for HMS in same fleet

sharp socket
#

gotta hotswap STAAGs too now PortDoll

whole crypt
#

both AA guns you'd want to use for a BB are HMS

fresh gale
#

What's the fleet tech from the new BC?

soft raft
#

HP and FP

wispy pendant
#

Can we toggle CN outfit? I don’t like the EN one.

whole crypt
#

no

strange sphinx
#

How's the new quad mag?

dusk maple
#

better than old quad mag

strange sphinx
#

is the new quad mag magnetic or no?

inner delta
#

"mag" part of the name is magnetic

sharp token
#

is the event worth pulling?

inner delta
#

you just said "new quad magnetic magnetic"

crimson glacier
#

i dont think any event without UR is worth

sage sluice
#

game is up fyi

sage nebula
plain saffron
#

My headcanon is that they keep moving forward until end of map

stark quiver
#

This 2 week event?

viscid swift
#

yes

stark quiver
#

Nice

sleek spade
#

are the new KMS girls worth rolling or no?

soft raft
#

They're at least FP tech (besides the Submarine)
i dont really have my hopes up when the SR BC has a <100 % barrage proc rate in 2024

sleek spade
#

yea that's the thing...

#

btw how do I get that new mag torp

keen sable
#

huh what happened to the solo vanguard fleet in /w15

soft raft
sleek spade
#

nice ty

fresh tangle
#

Does Hood want a double barrel?

full pumice
#

do high efficiency combat plans also double exp gain?

keen sable
fresh tangle
haughty dust
#

Are any of these new event ships worth grinding for? Also, what faction are they from?

stark quiver
#

Kms ships, not worth since low cubes and only good for tech, not tech collection more

soft raft
haughty dust
#

I see

soft raft
#

75% barrage proc chance BB in 2024 is certainly something

haughty dust
#

middle ship certainly has an interesting design though

stark quiver
#

Is everything usually 100

soft raft
#

at this point the standard for a good BB/BC in the modern day meta is 100%

keen sable
haughty dust
#

so really more fodder or just for waifu and nothing else I assume? I assume that is really all they are good for?

soft raft
#

basically

plain saffron
#

are bottom left unique to this only?

inner delta
#

i dont think so

#

the old coalition also have that i think

#

because it showing which fleet fight what

plain saffron
#

so unique to coalition

inner delta
#

i think so

stark quiver
plain saffron
#

would be nice to have on CM and META fight ShiSleep

vale apex
#

san francisco worth mlbing?

soft raft
#

depends on what other options you have

vale apex
#

i have carl chesire anchorage and will have dev30 agir soon

soft raft
#

then you dont really need to raise her

vale apex
#

alright

soft raft
#

at most she's +1 CA FP at that point

haughty dust
#

I obviously have not unlocked this reward yet. Will this piece of gear be any good once I get to it?

#

Ok then I will make sure I get to it. Who is it good on and will there be a way to get more than one copy of it?

plain saffron
#

almost everyone, no

haughty dust
#

wdym?

soft raft
#

basically everyone, no until this event reruns

haughty dust
#

so you saying you can only get it through the event?

soft raft
#

Yes

calm rose
#

Only 1 sadly

inland shoal
eager mulch
#

alternatively make a second account AmagiNom

whole crypt
#

wait for Frostfall to see if we'll even get a rerun for this format

plain saffron
#

does advice just take top fleet power ships?

viscid swift
#

I think that's how it does it yes

paper timber
#

What is this month arbiter armor mod?

viscid swift
#

heavy

stone sluice
#

Why is the event torps better than quads?

plain saffron
#

huh didn't expect sara to be in top 3

viscid swift
stone sluice
dense finch
#

I am a 10-day player. I currently have 160 cubes. Should I spend these cubes to construct in the event banner, trying to get the event pairs or just one light build a day?

sleek spade
dense finch
soft raft
#

this event banner is mostly snoozeworthy outside of being tech point fodder

UR events are alot more worth it than this

crimson rock
#

just did the event story, why was little spee in the backline in there?

sleek spade
# dense finch How come?

this is a mini event and the event ships are not very good. you should save cubes for the next UR event which will require 400 cubes and a lot of coins which also gives a very good ship

dense finch
soft raft
inner delta
#

daily mission 3x is lower gain, you can ignore it

dense finch
lethal bolt
#

wanna ask,i have only 2 fleets for event, do i do the hardest in solo fleet or farthest one i can do with coalition fleet?

tiny gulch
#

i think one shotting all the missions together is possible, but the game just updated so i'm not sure if it all counted

viscid swift
#

it is, it was done during Frostfall

tiny gulch
#

yep it counted

south sequoia
#

Whats the fastest way to grind a ship from 100 - 200 aff

#

Gonna get grinding for the extra 3% bonus for alsace kear and york

eager mulch
#

using them

plain saffron
#

Use them in farm

jade ibex
#

whats the event drop ship?

lethal bolt
soft raft
plain saffron
#

If you want fast² do easy stage but gonna get morale capped anyway

south sequoia
#

Even if they're 125 I guess its better to just throw them in an oil cap world?

plain saffron
#

Make use of those +10 morale onsen

fresh gale
#

MVP gets double affinity

plain saffron
#

I guess you can also put them in dorm and secretary for the extra affinity but i doubt it's significant

#

Does mvp double affinity mention ingame i forgot

dense finch
#

what's the benefits of putting ships in playground? I don't understand the term "morale"

plain saffron
#

/wiki morale

odd rootBOT
#
Azur Lane Wiki

Affinity is a value used to determine a ship's affection towards you. Stat bonuses may be gained the higher the ship's affinity is. By tapping on the affinity icon, by clicking "stats", using sorting options in the docks or opening the fleet in certain places (like the Dorm or Secretary screen) it is possible to check a shipgirl's exact affinity...

fresh tangle
#

So for SP you’ve got to have four solid fleets?

plain saffron
#

Tldr. Do 1 fight, -2 morale. Die, -10 morale. It regen naturally, those playground and dorm increase the regen rate

#

0 morale, annoying popup and - affinity

main latch
#

Who should i mlb first depending on who is more useful Shinano or Mogador ?

eager mulch
#

shinano

crimson glacier
#

i dont see any use for mog so easy shinano

fresh tangle
#

I’m not loving this event so far and we’ve got two weeks of this 😂

crimson glacier
#

yeah i hate everything about it

soft raft
#

just dip back to the usual grind after you got everything you want

reef flume
fresh tangle
#

I don’t care about the ships tbh so I think it’s just the torp I want tbh

reef flume
lethal bolt
#

Wanna ask about the event,are my current ships in my standard fleet strong enough to do a coalition battle in TC-3 or should I focus farming on coalition battle TC-2?

viscid swift
#

TC-3 is level 100 enemies

soft raft
#

why is Nelson off-flag

crimson glacier
#

to give alsace exp

whole crypt
#

rubbish format is rubbish

fresh tangle
#

Yeah I can’t wait to do the survey for this event it’s awful

lethal bolt
abstract latch
#

The new limited banner shipgirls any good?

soft raft
wind hazel
viscid swift
fresh tangle
#

Wait magnetic torps I thought they were garbage

whole crypt
#

some versions are

fresh tangle
#

Alright I’ll pick them up then. 8000 it is

whole crypt
#

@steady beacon 5/5 today

silk sphinx
viscid swift
#

Frostfall

whole crypt
#

Frostfall was also rubbish

near sonnet
#

is this stage Hard?

hollow gust
#

i hated frostfire

viscid swift
#

the issue is it's only milestone rewards and because there's new clearing rewards either, the return on these maps is atrocious

sage sluice
#

why does everyone hate this so much? Doesnt seem any more or less grindy than usual

elfin hollow
#

Does Alsace want flag?

eager mulch
#

poor rewards AmagiNom

hollow gust
main latch
soft raft
elfin hollow
#

good

viscid swift
whole crypt
#

it's the same grindy as usual if you aim the same usual milestones
and there's no event shop for it
and the drops are shit
and the sortie layout is awful

sage sluice
#

Probably sucks for newer people

viscid swift
#

I still don't get why people like this format, it's different yes but the grind is just atrocious for what you get compared to what we usually have

whole crypt
#

yeh, 6.5 year player too new to like this format

earnest flare
#

is solo or coalition better for grinding?

whole crypt
#

coalition is better points

lethal bolt
viscid swift
whole crypt
#

coalition is a stupid system, you don't have enough slots for 3 fleets in dorm and it's stupid to even try to grind 3 fleets at a time if you don't want to gimp your point gains

#

the XP and drops are all shit too

zinc turret
#

i see loli themed event MutsukiHyperStare

celest turtle
#

I have a question regarding the II ships, do you still get the oath skin if you oath the II ship over the OG?

feral ermine
whole crypt
#

normal gives you less points/run

celest turtle
whole crypt
#

basically you're fucked if you do and fucked if you don't

sage sluice
#

solo seems like less effort lol

whole crypt
#

it is, until you realize you need to do more runs for the same amount of points

fresh tangle
#

I’m chilling. I’ll do a few a day and should easily get the 8000 points for the torps. Will be spending most of my time in 12-1 tbh

whole crypt
#

I'm just lowcosting this rubbish and pressing repeat when I have time to

steady beacon
main latch
#

Dont have enough leveled ships Gladge

feral ermine
patent pivot
#

Frost fall was 2022?

steady beacon
#

Ye

feral ermine
#

ahh thats u are talking about

soft raft
viscid swift
#

the really annoying part is this has the normal milestone rewards so there's gold plates to get up to 55k

nova halo
#

i thought the event would be nice but what the fuck? nothing but a low budget boss rush

patent pivot
#

Thank fuck, only one of these every two years is less awful

whole crypt
#

pretty sure there was pretty negative feedback for the format itself, but everyone was busy with the towel skins

heady pier
#

is this the thing i spam always?

whole crypt
#

it's the least troublesome to run, that's all I can tell you

patent pivot
#

God damnit

nova halo
#

for me this is the most bullshit thing that manjuu ever created

sage sluice
#

once a year oh nooooooooo MutsukiHyperStare

inner delta
undone plover
whole crypt
#

wait there's no repeat button? D:

nova halo
#

sad that these points are milestone

inner delta
#

auto repeat is 5x, there is

nova halo
whole crypt
#

no as in the repeat again after clear

hallow iron
#

Do people summon for these new ships?

#

Initial review seems to rated them harshly

whole crypt
#

if you want to, collector or waifu

viscid swift
#

I do as a collector

feral ermine
#

what level enemys at sp stage?

soft raft
#

mainly for waifu/collection/tech points

whole crypt
#

rubbish ships is sitll a ship for 100%ers

silk sphinx
#

Also their tech is pretty good

hallow iron
#

Understandable,

silk sphinx
#

A lot of older players also have cube stocks in the four digit counts

whole crypt
#

hard was 100, SP is probably around 110

silk sphinx
#

So it’s not really an issue for us to pull for everything

sage sluice
#

Sp is 110

sharp token
#

which is better solo or use 3 fleet?

viscid swift
viscid swift
winter imp
#

Say are there any good gear setups for kearsarge without the rainbow plane?

compact gulch
#

Is alvitr a good unit? Worth 80 cubes?

soft raft
vale apex
#

how do you unlock sp

whole crypt
#

beat hard

soft raft
#

clear Hard

vale apex
#

where is hard

whole crypt
#

after normal

soft raft
#

which is after easy

winter imp
soft raft
sharp token
#

should i buy seydlitz or pass?

whole crypt
#

up to you

compact gulch
# soft raft No

Welp she got me good with them horns and legs I guess cause I got her for 80 cubes lol😭

whole crypt
soft raft
#

Bruh bro didnt wait for a answer and pulled

hallow iron
#

Just to make sure I didn't miss anything, the free event summon (ticket summon) is only availble during rerun right?

whole crypt
#

he probably already pulled which is why he asked 80 cubes

hallow iron
#

Ok tq

white venture
#

Am I crazy or stupid coz oil cost doesnt add up?

sharp token
#

when will the next UR event? a rerun right?

soft raft
white venture
soft raft
viscid swift
whole crypt
white venture
#

Ok i am stupid thanks

wispy pendant
#

Lil graf Spee is mainline ship in story?? Weird.

whole crypt
#

ships appearing odd slots happens occasionally for event battles

#

RPG had super weird slots too

keen sable
#

still want the clevebros super gun

nova halo
#

should i go for solo chall or coalition chall?

rain vine
#

coal

paper timber
#

Wait, does this event have oil cap?

whole crypt
#

solo gives less points
coalition needs more ships

rain vine
whole crypt
#

hard and SP has cap after first clear

soft raft
paper timber
rain vine
#

hard and sp

paper timber
#

I don't see cap on hard

silk helm
#

so are yall doing 1:1 for the hard stage?

whole crypt
#

have you cleared hard

dawn hamlet
#

Do we need to wait tmrw or we can spam hard? HelenaPeek

paper timber
whole crypt
#

should look something like this then

vale apex
#

do you need like super well built ships to 1:1 sp

rain vine
#

you dont have to clear to unlock oil cap

little tree
#

is the only weay to beat this SP have 4 fleets at 110+?

whole crypt
soft raft
compact gulch
rain vine
#

i just started and i see the oil cap

wind hazel
#

same, i saw oil cap lol

whole crypt
#

not like cap matters anyway I'm not doing that rubbish on hard ShiSleep

paper timber
#

Hmm, I see oil cap now

soft raft
keen sable
#

it's a fancy raid event without the doomsday timer

whole crypt
#

the ship

paper timber
#

This event grind really suck, 3 fleet you have to worry about morale and stuff

silk helm
#

oh okay cool

soft raft
thin haven
#

Should l spend gems on dorm or tactic I'm new at the game.

paper timber
#

Dorm

whole crypt
#

dorm up to 3 slots + 2/F
dockspace all the way after that

soft raft
paper timber
#

Tactic is crap trap

thin haven
#

Alright ty for the tip!

paper timber
#

Wait, event map need to me to push to continue, it isn't auto change battle

#

It stuck in waiting screen for the last 2 min EssexWheeze

whole crypt
#

it'll only auto progress if you use the repeat option, just normal sortie won't do it

silk helm
#

wait so theres no event shop?

whole crypt
#

that's even if you only set it to 1 run for the repeat

whole crypt
soft raft
silk helm
#

man... that kinda makes me not wanna farm this event

#

other times u could get so much free stuff w the event coins

undone plover
#

It is still worth farming up to 45k for the gold plates
But up to you how much u want to farm

#

It is 14 days u dont need to do it all today MurmtsukiStare

whole crypt
#

sounds like a steal I only need to do 5k a day

still sage
#

Am I somehow able to change my UR exchange? I've seen some ppl have different UR ships in exchange menu, what's the difference in it ?

whole crypt
#

there's only NJ and Shinano in it

stark quiver
#

how are the ex scores calculated

whole crypt
#

porbably the usual clear times and fleet power shit

still sage
fresh tangle
zinc turret
#

this event way harder than previous event MutsukiHyperStare how i can complete the SP stage ?

crimson glacier
#

they have never added new URs to it yet

soft raft
still sage
#

And I'm wondering if I have to wait or, after redeeming these two I will get another

whole crypt
#

next ship to be added is probably Shimakaze and we have no idea when that will happen, based on the rerun time chances are end of this year or later

keen sable
silk helm
zinc turret
still sage
soft raft
dusk maple
whole crypt
zinc turret
whole crypt
fresh tangle
meager gyro
#

is alivitir good?

still sage
#

Or only with bulimis?

zinc turret
soft raft
keen sable
whole crypt
zinc turret
soft raft
stark quiver
eternal basalt
#

Hmmn, so all get S or A-rank XP? NagaThonk

zinc turret
dusk maple
soft raft
whole crypt
stark quiver
#

i bring 3 actual geared ships and the rest are meat shields

wind hazel
#

is the EX easy? or need 🕹️

whole crypt
#

you can cram shit onto fleet 1 and just kill 1 boss and be done with it

zinc turret
#

i only need kill 1 boss ? MutsukiHyperStare

#

i tought i need to kill all of them

whole crypt
#

this did the job for me and I forgot to even give Guam a secondary gun

silk helm
whole crypt
#

shove junk into the remaining fleets, you need to have all 5 fleets setup

silk helm
zinc turret
#

aight lemme try that

whole crypt
#

also boss was BB but my Guam was using shitty Azuma gun because was testing for META

unkempt mirage
#

this feels like one one of the cheapest ways to get affinity for 125s

cobalt rapids
#

how are u supposed to grind this event?
1:1 it all the way ?

soft raft
#

im just grinding Hard

stark quiver
cobalt rapids
#

with full fleets?

heady pier
#

is it fine to just do to 10k so i get the character once and stop with the event?

stark quiver
#

i just did 1:1 until ex then i went full fleets

whole crypt
# stark quiver ew max tech +oath

this was what Musashi was using, if you're using proper boss gear the oath and tech hardly matters
I also already said Guam wasn't geared properly either and that still killed first boss fine

plain saffron
#

@sweet delta i read and didn't understand anything. Prob because it's too late in the night

dusk maple
cobalt rapids
#

with full fleets?

soft raft
dusk maple
#

oil cap

soft raft
whole crypt
zinc turret
cobalt rapids
#

i was worried about morale

whole crypt
#

well I simply refuse to waste oil for hard and morale is ass

stark quiver
#

if its first boss, then i kinda just ran zwei + otto

dusk maple
#

just change the teams, too many idle ships anyway EssexWheeze

whole crypt
#

using idle ships implies I'll need to gear them

stark quiver
#

since there isnt a store, its kinda just rush milestone then im done right?

also where do i get the mag torps from again

#

wait its in pins

whole crypt
#

milestone

vagrant spoke
#

Is it worth using kazagumo in a triple cv fleet(shinano, haku, avp) over something else(for ex. Tai yuan)

viscid swift
#

yes

whole crypt
#

definitely

viscid swift
#

especially seeing as you need a 3rd IJN to proc Shinano's buffs

loud rover
#

Any of the new ships worth getting or is this a pass? I’d like to save as many cubes for vanguard rerun if possible

vagrant spoke
#

Will kazagumo skill stack with Sirius or nah

keen sable
bold salmon
#

are those magnetics better than the regular magnetic quad?

loud rover
#

Pass then, new torp good?

stark quiver
#

yes

hallow iron
#

Omg 4 fleet?? Plz tell me this can be done easily

vagrant spoke
#

So a CB, kazagumo, Sirius vanguard be good for 3x shinano, haku, avp then

hallow iron
#

Is there oil cap btw

viscid swift
whole crypt
#

hard does

viscid swift
zinc turret
whole crypt
#

you can probably do it with 3-4 ships in 1 fleet at 110+ if properly geared

kindred arrow
#

Does hard drop anything worth farming?

whole crypt
#

across 4 fleets should be able to make it with 12-16 ships

zinc turret
whole crypt
#

yes if you lose you just get nothing

zinc turret
whole crypt
#

that's for EX

zinc turret
#

meanwhile me : cant even clear sp WhydahXD

whole crypt
#

2 weeks to level glhf

wind hazel
#

try having unicorn on fleet 3

zinc turret
static dome
#

so, this event might be same gameplay style like Frostfall right?
since it has that 5 fleet thingy again NagaThonk

zinc turret
#

where is intel ?

near sonnet
#

Is there any other carrier I should retrofit other than Unicorn?

zinc turret
whole crypt
keen sable
static dome
zinc turret
silk helm
meager gyro
#

can anyone make me a fleet for this?

stark quiver
#

what is armor for ex bosses

soft raft
# near sonnet which??

Saratoga and Ark royal ig
otherwise no one really
Yorktown, Akagi, Lexington, and Shinano dont have retrofits as well

near sonnet
#

alr thanks

keen sable
#

afaict there's no reward advantage for doing sp. if you can do it, do it to maybe save some time. if you can't, you can't.

keen sable
meager gyro
stark quiver
#

ew medium armor

silk helm
#

dont auto and save ur cv

stark quiver
#

i gotta redo all my gear

keen sable
sinful nimbus
#

So i do get this right as newer player, in the upcoming months there will be the global anni, japanese anni and also the Vanguard rerun?
Currently debating if i should pull in this event or replace my daily light pull with a daily event pull or even three or skip it all together
Got 580 cubes but too be honest, only Alvitr interest me and even then, i have a bunch of big titty iron blood mommies already

wind hazel
#

can gamble a little, but set a limit

meager gyro
eager mulch
#

they have preloads or launch fast

keen sable
rain vine
#

carriers that start battle with an airstrike loaded or have significantly faster airstrike timers

eager mulch
#

oh wait it’s him smolmagisleep

keen sable
sinful nimbus
#

... i had to pity Alsace so i am kinda skeptical about getting any ship with no problem

soft raft
# sinful nimbus So i do get this right as newer player, in the upcoming months there will be the...

EN anniv is in August and is most certainly not a UR event due to its proximity to JP Anniv
JP anniv is in Sept and is most certainly a UR event
Vanguard Rerun is next in line but we dont know when it'll happen

and 400 cube is pity so you have about 180 cubes to spare give or take, if you really want to be conservative, 1 pull per day. The ships on this banner arent that exciting outside of tech

zinc turret
sinful nimbus
keen sable
zinc turret
#

ship with preload = u already have ammo for the gun u want to shoot at the start of the battle , ship without preload = u coming with empty gun and u have to load the ammo

meager gyro
#

still fails

keen sable
meager gyro
#

?

zinc turret
sweet delta
#

What do you not understand about dodge better?

zinc turret
#

and dodge

eager mulch
#

skill issue in its purest form

meager gyro
wispy pendant
#

Anyone have the boss order and armor type for sp and hard?

meager gyro
#

like what do you mean dodge? dodge what?

keen sable
#

move your ships where the torpedoes aren't

silk helm
#

dodge the attacks

zinc turret
meager gyro
silk helm
#

xD

meager gyro
#

still dies

zinc turret
loud rover
zinc turret
#

could be gear issue too

rain vine
#

gear literally does not matter

fresh tangle
#

Just got T0 tenrai. Who should I put it on? I’ve got Enty too tbh but not currently using her

eager mulch
keen sable
#

do you really want to go down that route? torp bulge on helena retro would be a start WarShrug

zinc turret
meager gyro
#

can someone make me a fleet for this?

eager mulch
#

Is that the fucking sub weekly

silk helm
fresh tangle
keen sable
#

i don't mind recommending alt-tab royal fortune fleet

sweet delta
eager mulch
#

Holy shit it’s the fucking sub weekly

wind hazel
meager gyro
#

how the actual fuck are you even supposed to do this????

zinc turret
silk helm
meager gyro
#

you have like 30 torpedos for like 40 ships and each ships takes like 8 torpedos to kill

eager mulch
keen sable
meager gyro
fresh tangle
viscid swift
#

I rather doubt they should be dropping 1500 core data on RF at this time given the state of their account

sweet delta
#

Reading the wiki might help

keen sable
fresh tangle
meager gyro
keen sable
zinc turret
keen sable
soft raft
meager gyro
#

why are you speaking in riddles

zinc turret
eager mulch
zinc turret
viscid swift
soft raft
eager mulch
viscid swift
#

they still aren't in W12 and everything resource wise is fucked

keen sable