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hhmmm should I give her the scepter for her Augment
Either works and for W13 the difference will be minimal
what happens when there are 2 enemies on field, 1 has the barrage burn, 1 has the spreaded burn, and the tick for burn spread happens again
does the duration extend or refresh, or does nothing happen
cause the desc is not clear
thank
is it extended or refreshed im not clear 

Has this already been answered?
Standard gold quad mag as 14 homing range, 48 deg/s turning angle
Or, at least, I'm pretty sure of that last point
Hi guys how do i speedrun the event before maint
give up and wait for war archive
That's the neat part: you don't
It have same angular so prob same angle

As gold quad mag
Is there any CN server that's not from bilibili?
Like doesn't have the bilibili login
Or there's just no way to play as guest
ahm do we have an archive for parallel event?
2 options
Invent a time machine or start "reprogramming the game"
Alright I'll try time machine
What
... I presume Parallel Superimposition?
If so, no
Hasn't even been rerun yet, in fact

Z47
With every two AoAs, targeting nearest, 135 dmg, scaling on 100% of TRP, 100% coefficient,
basically a quad mag kai with lower damage and only 100% efficiency
AoA
shrapnel reaim at enemy,
20 dmg, scaling on 100% of FP, 100% coefficient,
32 bullets of Normal ammo, 105/70/40% armor, 100±0 range, 18 velocity.
New event is sp event?
where did you find this did you make it yourself
Coalition Battle format
Whats this?
30 ship raid?
I played and didn't like that event 
what's that?
Frostfall is the first Coalition Northern Parliament-themed event, featuring three new Northern Parliament shipgirls and a new Hot Spring-themed furniture set.
Also featured are one Easy, one Normal, one Hard, an SP, and an EX map in which Frostfall Pts can be acquired and used to unlock milestone rewards and unlock Intel stages. Additionally, ...
Can you switch gear between fleets like in opsi for this?
hah, I feel like I don't remembered that yet I have limited ships and the bathhouse, Why I can't remember the event
Zamn
is coalition good for sub aff farming like raid?
Is their fleet tech in the pins? 
Blaster wrote it at as
BB HP+2 FP+1
SS EVA+2 TRP+1
DD AA+1 HP+1 FP+2 (total of both)
Oh! Thanks 
generally good tech across the board
best pr ship in pr6?
Shimanto
should i get her before hakuryuu
dev 0 ships are useless
do you have any prints in reserve?
you can get whoever you want as long as you don't mind -1 dock space
shimanto worth getting?
when shes d30 yes
is she better than helena
diff roles
Hmmm how good is marco polo
yes
also kearsgae worth getting if i have soyuz and alsace?
not really much to say though about Marco, high damage mob BB, somewhat generic, so good yes? replaceable? also yes
what best ship in pr5 for newcomer mission
It doesn't really matter just pick 1
Long maint day is annoying here in SE Asia. 2pm-10pm. At least I’ll finish anchorage today then onto FdG I think
You'll unlock all the PR ships eventually and past a certain point unlock order does not matter
Seyd good or nah?
similar to Hood
it's react like unique's that sometimes make me feel like perhaps we don't need reacts in this channel
Could I disable the animation for battle end? Kinda annoying
animation for battle end? 
I mean the one with shows the mvp
yes in settings
just default to Percy, or Uni, only really need 1 pre load
were the stages and sp in frostfall easy
outside of Special Stages, and EX no event has been really "difficult"
I'm 800 short for seyd 
You had time to farm so... 
is that 135 damage per torp
Are event stages worth farming for exp like 12-1, or nah?
like maybe D-4 to farm exp and event currency? Or does have to be done separately?
Event stages are worth farming for the currency. W12 still have better exp/coins
Raids don't do D stuff
we're not getting a raid event though
But everyone says its like Frostfall 
Huhh is w13-2 better to farm than w12
I wouldn't do above 12-4 because I want to level my stuff without unicorn.
And there's a coin/exp chart for the campaign stages.
I don't have the screenshot doe 
Frostfall is not raid. Rpg is raid
Is rpg the hero event
Iirc people call it modified old CM
And were there new ships I honestly forgot
Frostfall gives like 4 difficulties, you add w/e modifiers you want for points, and you repeatedly punch a boss for points
iirc
Oh yes those
the most hated event because people need to think to even setup their fleet
it do? 
Is new event good?
So frost fall hard with modifiers?
frostfall had modifiers?
didn’t play it
People can't braindead choose fleet then afk farm
Need to configure your fleet so it's bad
FF is a raid 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Ni8Ix09HQ found my forstfall ex vid, pretty basic no modifiers battles
a raid would imply there's an massive HP bar that you take down bit by bit, this is just killing shit
Isn’t it kinda just run tanks and then brute force it
And raid don't have 4 boss per stage
yeah it's a no modifier event
Like old cm?
It's literally old cm but in stages
It even has the raid layout on wiki 
Brain dead ass event
that's why we're running a kindergarten
Blame wiki then
It doesn't even use raid files. It have it's own stage file
Rpg meanwhile is reskinned raid
Used raid files
And even have the same 3 years old raid UI fleet selection bug
Yongshi pls fix
This event structure is gonna be a pain to learn
That's why people hate it 
it's really not that bad
yeah it's just tedious that's all
It's not hard but it's different than the rest so people hate it because now they need to read and understand
I’ll do what I did for cruise ship event, just click around until something happens, then spam rainbows
Did we have tutorial in pins i forgot
no cuz it's just build fleet and go in
It's raid but more fleet then 1... what's so difficult about that?
As long as you can grind Sub affection like the usual raid events, this is perfect for my KMs subs.
Do fleets have to be particularly strong? Like harbiter level fleets?
ofc not, it's only event
the event is really simple
event is never that lv of difficulties
Maybe I’m just overthinking it
Bcs it's not raid.... It's not even close to raid
That's asking too much from casual 
/wiki frostfall
Huh is this coalition event?
Is the most recent French battleship good at all?
Alsace? yes
How so
How is it not close to a raid 
Like she good for boss mob and how good is she
Game data/logic wise completely different
Diff UI
4 boss per stage not 1(literally old CM)
No server wide boss
No 75/50/0% rewards
No annoying thing where you need to fight once before 0% to get rewards
Doesn't have same bug as raid
Only thing i can think close to raid is it have easy/med/hard/SP/EX naming
But that like saying virtual tower is SP event like hms hunter event because devs use same name
Yes, like From Zero to Hero
I tbh use her in my boss fleet and she is great
How so tho
and this #bug-reports message
Damages and debuffs
Is her barrage any good?
Anyway ignoring everything else
How can you say frost fall with 4 boss per stage is remotely close to raid even which have 1 boss per fights
Rpg doesn't have those
Damage is good even tho not the best damage (but still good). However it can consistently strike multiple targets and the lightning that strike the attack target does good damage too. Also, the target of the barrage takes more 12% more damage
In mob it's useful to destroy multiple targets or at least nearly killing them, while in boss is great cause you'll strike a single target (even tho some stages have two bosses) and that target will take 12% more damage
U should deploy Alsace with a Iris Libre or Vichya Dominion vanguard ship tho (although it's not necessary) so you can activate her second skill faster
she doesnt care about her faction at all
Ik. But if u deploy her with a vanguard Iris Libre/Vichya Dominion ship, her second skill will activate faster
and will make your fleet worse most of the time
I use Mogador in my case
You can also make her second skill activate by making her hit an enemy with her secondary gun yes, but it takes more time to do it and it's more unlikely
What if there are no suicide boats? Would her second skill activate at all?
That's the point
if your vanguards are good enough at killing production ships then no
Which is why I use her with Mogador
It literally makes the dmg debuff last until the battle ends
you already applied the holy judgement skill with red skill
yeah and that isnt useful
yeah just make her fire sync with the other bbs
the infinite duration is not relevant enough
if brest/mogador is the better pick for the fight sure but if not it's not worth going all the way to use them just to make the duration infinite
Wait I’m confused, what makes Alsace so good? Is it just her stats or her skills or both?
she is just strong
Both + she have utility
So if a BB can inflict burn with skills, is there a point in using a HE gun?
i dont think her skill burn counts as normal burn
but its kinda irrelevant when you would use AP on heavy and med anyway
her util is from the red skill, enemy take 12% more dmg
I still have to understand how her second barrage activates
I just treat burn as free extra dmg
Since you prioritize using gun type depending on armor time. Since burn dmg is still lower than using ap gun for med/heavy armor
when your ships go low hp it activates
Ah okok
did JP maint started yet?
Are you sure you mean started?
we started 3 hours ago
what time it ended usually jp time
3 more to go
that will do i guess

so what's with the quad mag kai
It's a quàd mag with a bit more dmg and slightly longer homing range
does....jp not run on english devices
I'm on a ROG7, does that count
hmmm prob need to wait a while
did JP get predl yet
might still be doing that system language thingy
no idea didn't start game up, let me checb
it's up 760MBs
thanks
is there guest acc for JP
guest as in?
not sure if you can get in without any binds now but do you actually need to get in-game
nvm figured it out there's no guest
why is the datamine not translated yet
pretty sure it is
Filler banner or filler banner?
huh it magically translated when I reload
hmmm how good iz the new quad mag?
better than quad mags
Filler beyond belief

lol
maybe it's too greed of me wanting a high damage on meta with auto mode and no zwei
both are good on all
I mean here's the thing
You'll always use Zwei on BB comps tho
Cos of her black hole
just slap in zwei, vanguard and musashi
Zwei, Vanguard + 1 more BB
Alsace for light
Soyuz for med
Musashi for heavy
that choice is kinda meaningless
Zwei+mash comps are just worse than dual buffers, truly don't understand why everyone says that
does it matter when zwei+2 UR BBs will beat anything basically
it doesnt matter at all what combination you use
yeah it doesn't matter
its harder to make it not perform
even if you fuck up the timing like vanguard goes last still kill arbiter
so like it really truly doesn't matter
instructions unclear yamato gun on Vanguard and confetti on 2 URS
Amagi can get CV for JP anniversary?
Is this next event a new one or rerun
New
Wow that look cool, huge ass axe XD
is my computer being weird or is quadmag kai name not tl'd yet on datamine
I'm suspecting it's my pc being weird, but sanity check
name is not translated
ppl will be
if name is tranlated and ingame name will be diff since no EN predl up now
also remind me rq why does the black hole matter on bis2?

I figured it was a slow but not similar to full timestop. today I learn
but what about anemo hitrate
its better than a freeze if theres more than one target but timing is tighter
sandy also just scoffs in your face for that in leo CM
Any idea of when bismark zwei will be available again?
Feel like I’m missing the goat ship
whenever Vanguard reruns add another year or so
find out original date of release then add 2 years, give or take some months
Very rough but you get the point
Alright cool thanks. A general rule of thumb works for me. Imagine she’s crept out anyway
nah she'll still be there for a while. Just look out for other UR BBs
Yeah I’ve only got Alsace atm but I’m learning about different comps and seen triple Bb and CVs are a thing
lol, get vanguard next. She's the next UR to rerun and you're essentially free for BB fleet
Pardon my ignorance but vanguard the name of a ship or you mean the “front line”
HMS Vanguard. Also the reason why I prefer the term 'frontline' instead of that since it invites confusion
Yeah naming a ship that definitely causes confusion but I understand it’s a real ship so
Does anyone remember if these multi fleet coalition raid type event lowers morale per sortie for your fleets used?
A battleship called vanguard 😮💨
off the top of my head it does, but we also get playground this event that's a reskinned onsen
just capitalize the ship name to avoid confusion or decide by the context
Where’s that list of gear you should have before you start making the fancy gear lab stuff? I’ve accrued hundreds of boxes and plan on opening them and sorting stuff out properly after maintenance
KMS box for quad mags and maybe get yourself some catapults I guess
roombas remain a good AA option
I remember Sakura has the elite shells
you'll replace them with white shells form core shop eventually so up to you
trying to open all your boxes is a rather futile exercise unless there's something you want in mind
how long is maint?
Yeah I mean I’ve already got one set so maybe I should just save them for research tasks?
3.5 hours left approximately
the reseraches that use boxes are rubbish, just give up on them
Ah so I’ll just end up with a stockpile of them for no reason
just call her vanny, it makes it obvious yr talking about the ship
I just make it a point to call Vanguard Vanguard and vanguards vanguards
lategame looks like this
Going to make a vision board with this screenshot 😂 “late game is this depot”

Oh nice thanks for info
what new/rerun contnet is coming
new event is basically frostfall reskinned
oh right frostfall can't spam crossfleet -.-
Neither can a raid, 1 fleet
yeh but raid norm is fast and hard is 1 fight
Can you still do one fleet but get punisahed for it? 
If
Backline is Bzwei/Alsace/Vanny, which of these two vanguards setup would you run?
Agir/Mog/Ply or Agir/Hindy/Ply
And why?
hindy coz it isnt mog
less points and you still need to do 3 fights
3x affection though and xp 
depends lol, still using hinden here since my moggers isn't MLB even
if you can equip mogador but not hindenburg, then use mogador. She can make Alsace better and has handy minor debuffs to play with
if you have at least two UR CA guns, then hindenburg. With Biszwei's buff, she can deal good damage
At perfect gear testing is still incomplete. But very likely hinde > mog even under ideal circumstances (only 1 target ever)
Submarines 
Testing for damage only? Or other utility as well?
Total fleet dmg
Hinde comps were like 5% better iirc but that was not with perfect gear
And also with old backline comp so with soy there now idk
are you going to calculate the new 3 BB fleet numbers soon
But then again, with imperfect gear she's still better tho i think it's case closed? Or am i missing something?
I started to but I'm in the middle of moving which is taking up a lot of time
i see, take your time then. IRL first
Depends on what you mean by imperfect. When I said imperfect I meant only +10 hinde and mog guns
So the results potentially change if it's+13?
Ye
Ah ok. Tysm
In hinde favour*
@whole crypt , did you end up getting to check this fleet?
I'm sticking with it now but only 1/5 last night
counts on 2 procs anyway so 36%, fair game 
Does the chain reach the backline for you senpai?
But isn't at least 2 procs like 60ish%
like 50
I'm not tripping, am I?
Seems right
You have to take into account that for instance first and second could be scans, or second and third, or first and third
Those are separate mutually exclusive events so their probabilities have to be added together
Haven't done highschool maths in 8 years, kinda rusty 
eh what was it again, 3c2?
its just 3
I didn’t know the choose function was called ncr though…
lemme excel it, can't work it out in my head 
pilicas is right

The math is not that complicated
whats .648 mean?
I clearly saw Helena not going off on yesterday's runs anyway
64.8% chance to get at least 2 procs of Helena out of 3
but does helena survive consistently for 3rd 
quite
are hk server diff than CN server?
any gifs for alvitr barrages?
isn't HK shared with TW
the spear throw is weird, is that one hit going forward and one hit when it returns?
I don't remember a HK server release
are TW catchup with CN?
still behind and catching up with blazing pace last I heard
there's no list...you make good gear when it's available
Tbh idk what server is this
it's not TW?
is that CN CN
wait that's simplified Chinese should be CN
shouldn't there be like 100 server if so...
wechat bind says mainland china so idk
translate one of the server names
just to clarify, if she lands 3 hits in one activation, does she get her buff? or does it mean it has to activate 3 times?
https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/服务器 yeh it's CN
Yeah but I mean like if I looked at my depot right now I could not tell you what is “useable” and what I may as well disassemble. I’d like to learn more about that stuff so I can make that decision
huh so there's self published and bilibili published version
looks like it
you mean safe to scrap? #bot-spam /equip
Well not necessarily just safe to scrap but what makes a weapon good
idle mode uses local time now
and the dialog is not the usual box, it's like subtitle at bottom
time to buy a small monitor and put AL there for aesthetic
finally
gonna us it later
Is that from the new ships?

Probably neither, just means this barrage over the course of the entire battle has to land 3 hits. This is just my understanding of the phrasing though, no time to look at the code
what "channel" means
Is there data mine for the fleet tech?
it's the 3rd column right
those are probably the non-official servers
hmm i see, the published is named manjuu, with package name com.hkmanjuu
whatever as long as it's synced
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New Event Format?
Check datamine for more details.
Oil Cap?
Arts Building - 25 surface / 16 subs
Athletic Field- 40 surface / 16 subs
No clearing rewards are on any of the stages.
Best Places to Farm?
Spam the highest stage you can do (Arts > School > Admin) repeatedideally in coalition for more rewards). Athletic Field is only more oil efficient than Arts if you can 1:1 everything.
Once you get the Torpedo, it isn't worth farming this event for anything else.
How To Get Improved Quadruple 533mm Magnetic Torpedo?
Point Milestone Rewards.
Should I pull for these ships?
Reasons you should pull for the ships, in no particular order:
- Waifu
- Collection
- Better than some permanent options at their hull type (only for gold ships, check the evaluations linked above for more information).
*Note: There are 2 more UR events scheduled for 2024, plus potential (unconfirmed) UR rerun events, spend cubes wisely.
more info coming soon ™️
@inland shoal pin plz
instructions unclear where is D3
wait its an sp event
frostfall event
What do we think of the new ships on paper review?
prob copy tutorial tab from frostfall datamine into this new one
You do it im mobile cucked
Prob that alterred 
9 oil vs 75 oil 
yeah the reward is dogshit
yeh fondly reminded why I hated Frostfall
I edited pins to include frostfall stuff
Slap samheart and say where 
yeh hard enemies are lv100 0LB vanguard won't cut it
is nagato a must have in fleet of hakuryu + shinano? if not, who can replace her? 😄
musashi
weeeeeee I hope I havw enough oil
Fixed
no
Haku and Shinano are strong enough to not really need to give a shit about Nagato's buff
thanks 
About the sp is more efficient when 1:1, do they mean unicorn and whatever destroyer?
Emojistorm 
True to form
If I remember Frostfall correctly, because multi-fleet clearing is forced in SP/EX, you need to form 4 1:1 fleets
There are probably many viable ways to do this
hmm sometimes alt how to spell her have spear doesn't return
Got any ideas ?
alright that's all barrages
bye
Do you know if Alivie's spear can hit the same enemy more than once? It seems to spin so idk if each spin is a hit
it's just once a day anyway, just any 2 non-shoddy MLBs should be fine
the bigger problem is hard is just really dogshit
Honestly, if I remember Frostfall correctly, I'm pretty sure I used An Shan + Seydlitz in one fleet and got bodied by planes, only being saved by Seyd's invincibility
Prob don't go in with zero AA, but apart from that I can't remember anything
it's a big box
Ye the format is... annoying, to say the least
the spin is just cosmetic
I'm just doing Ranger/Mahan + Erebus/Mahan on normal
Why mahan
why not
It’s tragic , cuz I didn’t have time to level up farming fleets
And even if I did , 0 skill leveled
they are fine with 0 skill usually
i dont know if new event will be different 
time to quit AL
no immediate powercreep, life ruined
you probably want to level the zombie heal skills on the Mahans if you want to use them
Funny thing is I don’t think I even have mahan unlocked
Mahans are just Cassin and Downes
Mahan isn't in game
Mahan means the class i.e. Cassin and Downes
Ah, cuz I remember I heard of a mahan ship, I may have mixed it up with wows
is banner 1 cube or 2 cube
2
should be heavy based
yea heavy
that's a dissertation
go ahead and ask about something and we can let you know if it's correct. Assuming you've read everything on the wiki already
heavy pool means amagi-chan can drop 
Do we know map drops yet?
Bullets should generally be unable to hit the same enemy twice iirc
However the axe can hit on the way there and on the way back (when it doesn't decide to not come back for whatever reason)
should I skip this event and save cubes for UR
Probably, still build maybe 3 a day if you want the ships. But UR wants 400 cubes. (Do we get bonus event points for 3 builds?)
that's prolly the better option yes
Do we think the new Z ship is meh? I wanted her to be good, but haven’t heard anything amazing about her yet
They're all great FT
If the map drops the new torp, this is going to be a lot of farming.
Nah, Nagami already checked that out
Gold drop from hard is G7e
quad mag kai is milestone, hard drops G7e
Okay, I’m spared !
which is just as well because hard is also 🚮
Same tbh
I remember Frostfall's utter crap drop rate for the Tashkent gun
Don't want to think about farming the new torp
I was coping it would be new torp with hvar drop rates
obviously not happening
Did you figured out why yet
is the new torp just a straight upgrade to quad mag? 8% dmg diff?
I’ve skimmed it tbh. I’ll break it down into sections. 😂
And maybe better homing?
yeah the 400 cubes is what worries me, if I do 3 builds a day I think that means I lose 3 cubes a day even if I do the dailies so I don't know if I can save 400 cubes in time
5 cubes a day. Three builds is 6 cubes
Compared to quad mag 145 --> 157 damage per torp
And homing range 14 --> 16
Straight upgrade, just limited by uniqueness
you get way more than 180 cubes a month so you can't "lose" anything
you are guarenteed to get like at least 160 cubes per month
Event lasts for 14 days
14 x 6 (3*2 cubes) = 84
well the ships aren't amazeballs if you're not after waifu, there'll probably be some time to save again before JP anniv, the problem is what they'll drop for EN anniv
Either totally skip and do 1 light build a day, or do moderate pulling, but UR rerun is vanguard, don’t miss her
does vanguard work well with hood on mob
En anniversary going to be hype ryza rerun lol
I don't cope or speculate for that shit
does hood work at all on anything hard?
ah. I'll probably skip the event then, it looks like just a sub, a bb, and a destroyer so I'll likely just stick with the ships I have rn
She’s required in some hard modes 😁
hard mode is easy.
even if you don't want something that follows pattern but at least don't cope for something that's completely unfeasible
she is my only BC option so perhaps
you don't need Hood, you just need a BC for those cases, unless you only have Hood
Vanguard UR bb is still meta for buffing BB fleet for boss fights.
@sharp socket
Vanguard doesnt really work for campaign in terms of getting the most out of her kit since her main value comes out of syncing with other BBs to buff their damage
And Syncing isnt something you want to do much in campaign, much less when Hood generally wants twin barrel guns to get as many barrage procs as possible
even without other royal navy ship?
that is a nothingburger part of her kit
i can give her yellow and black shell too right
Vanguard UR BB is a BB buffer for BB fleets. She doesn’t need other Royal ships
did Vanguard even have any skills that does anything with HMS ships?
Two but it's like relatively whatever
10% fp for ply
does she have the best aux guns? considering they always crit? 
yellow shell will fulfill royal navy gear req right
vanguard uni 15 meta
yes but like just use STAAG (which is also a HMS gear)
Yellow shell is not worth it over white shell
the less plane damage is whatever, nothing else does squat for HMS in same fleet
gotta hotswap STAAGs too now 
both AA guns you'd want to use for a BB are HMS
What's the fleet tech from the new BC?
HP and FP
Can we toggle CN outfit? I don’t like the EN one.
no
How's the new quad mag?
better than old quad mag
is the new quad mag magnetic or no?
"mag" part of the name is magnetic
is the event worth pulling?
you just said "new quad magnetic magnetic"
i dont think any event without UR is worth
game is up fyi
I was wondering about that, some gifs show it returning some gifs show it not
My headcanon is that they keep moving forward until end of map
This 2 week event?
yes
Nice
are the new KMS girls worth rolling or no?
They're at least FP tech (besides the Submarine)
i dont really have my hopes up when the SR BC has a <100 % barrage proc rate in 2024
huh what happened to the solo vanguard fleet in /w15
8k event points reward on the event pt milestone ladder
nice ty
Does Hood want a double barrel?
do high efficiency combat plans also double exp gain?
Yes
she is one of the few bb that wants a fast gun
For triggering her barrage more?
Are any of these new event ships worth grinding for? Also, what faction are they from?
Kms ships, not worth since low cubes and only good for tech, not tech collection more
I see
Iron blood ships
They're pretty whatever outside of being tech fodder
I see
75% barrage proc chance BB in 2024 is certainly something
middle ship certainly has an interesting design though
Is everything usually 100
at this point the standard for a good BB/BC in the modern day meta is 100%
yes she is one of the worst shellers of commonly used bb. her barrage does like twice as much damage as her shells on paper
so really more fodder or just for waifu and nothing else I assume? I assume that is really all they are good for?
basically
are bottom left unique to this only?
i dont think so
the old coalition also have that i think
because it showing which fleet fight what
so unique to coalition
i think so
Is that first stage?
would be nice to have on CM and META fight 
san francisco worth mlbing?
depends on what other options you have
i have carl chesire anchorage and will have dev30 agir soon
then you dont really need to raise her
alright
at most she's +1 CA FP at that point
I obviously have not unlocked this reward yet. Will this piece of gear be any good once I get to it?
Ok then I will make sure I get to it. Who is it good on and will there be a way to get more than one copy of it?
almost everyone, no
wdym?
basically everyone, no until this event reruns
so you saying you can only get it through the event?
Yes
Only 1 sadly
Yes, just wait 2 years or sth like that 
alternatively make a second account 
wait for Frostfall to see if we'll even get a rerun for this format
does advice just take top fleet power ships?
I think that's how it does it yes
What is this month arbiter armor mod?
heavy
Why is the event torps better than quads?
huh didn't expect sara to be in top 3
they're the exact same but they do more damage and have higher homing acquisition range

I am a 10-day player. I currently have 160 cubes. Should I spend these cubes to construct in the event banner, trying to get the event pairs or just one light build a day?
1 light a day. we got URs coming soon
How come?
this event banner is mostly snoozeworthy outside of being tech point fodder
UR events are alot more worth it than this
just did the event story, why was little spee in the backline in there?
this is a mini event and the event ships are not very good. you should save cubes for the next UR event which will require 400 cubes and a lot of coins which also gives a very good ship
Okay, I asked because I notice that there's a daily mission of constructing three times a day.
because the devs put her there
And those are pre-built fleets specifically made for the event story so they dont have to follow the usual restrictions
No this does not mean that we can put vanguards in backlines or vice versa anytime soon
daily mission 3x is lower gain, you can ignore it
Got it, I missed the two UR units last time, cannot miss the upcoming ones.
ok, thx
wanna ask,i have only 2 fleets for event, do i do the hardest in solo fleet or farthest one i can do with coalition fleet?
i think one shotting all the missions together is possible, but the game just updated so i'm not sure if it all counted
it is, it was done during Frostfall
yep it counted
Whats the fastest way to grind a ship from 100 - 200 aff
Gonna get grinding for the extra 3% bonus for alsace kear and york
using them
Use them in farm
whats the event drop ship?
wait, can i just split my 2 main fleet to do coalition fleet?
no one
Z43 is pt milestone, everyone else is banner
If you want fast² do easy stage but gonna get morale capped anyway
Even if they're 125 I guess its better to just throw them in an oil cap world?
Make use of those +10 morale onsen
MVP gets double affinity
I guess you can also put them in dorm and secretary for the extra affinity but i doubt it's significant
Does mvp double affinity mention ingame i forgot
what's the benefits of putting ships in playground? I don't understand the term "morale"
/wiki morale
Affinity is a value used to determine a ship's affection towards you. Stat bonuses may be gained the higher the ship's affinity is. By tapping on the affinity icon, by clicking "stats", using sorting options in the docks or opening the fleet in certain places (like the Dorm or Secretary screen) it is possible to check a shipgirl's exact affinity...
So for SP you’ve got to have four solid fleets?
Tldr. Do 1 fight, -2 morale. Die, -10 morale. It regen naturally, those playground and dorm increase the regen rate
0 morale, annoying popup and - affinity
Who should i mlb first depending on who is more useful Shinano or Mogador ?
shinano
i dont see any use for mog so easy shinano
#gameplay-help message second to last paragraph
I’m not loving this event so far and we’ve got two weeks of this 😂
yeah i hate everything about it
just dip back to the usual grind after you got everything you want
I am playing only to get the torps
I don’t care about the ships tbh so I think it’s just the torp I want tbh
And to farm cubes
Wanna ask about the event,are my current ships in my standard fleet strong enough to do a coalition battle in TC-3 or should I focus farming on coalition battle TC-2?
TC-3 is level 100 enemies
why is Nelson off-flag
to give alsace exp
rubbish format is rubbish
Yeah I can’t wait to do the survey for this event it’s awful
so could i or could i not clear it?
The new limited banner shipgirls any good?
looking to be more tech fodder 
you'll clear it ez
Ah
considering that your average ship level is well above that, yes you can clear it quite easily
Wait magnetic torps I thought they were garbage
some versions are
Alright I’ll pick them up then. 8000 it is
@steady beacon 5/5 today
Ehy is it bad? Didn’t we have this format before?
Frostfall
Frostfall was also rubbish
is this stage Hard?
i hated frostfire
the issue is it's only milestone rewards and because there's new clearing rewards either, the return on these maps is atrocious
why does everyone hate this so much? Doesnt seem any more or less grindy than usual
Does Alsace want flag?
poor rewards 
she doesnt need it
Doesnt care
poor rewards, no event shop, yadda yadda
good
economically they're much worse than normal events and I don't think the economy of normal events is that great to begin with
it's the same grindy as usual if you aim the same usual milestones
and there's no event shop for it
and the drops are shit
and the sortie layout is awful
thats fair, I guess i would care more if I cared about the resources
Probably sucks for newer people
I still don't get why people like this format, it's different yes but the grind is just atrocious for what you get compared to what we usually have
yeh, 6.5 year player too new to like this format
is solo or coalition better for grinding?
coalition is better points
is this the first type of layout released for event or has this type of sortie layout happened before?
Frostfall was the first to have this format in 2023
coalition is a stupid system, you don't have enough slots for 3 fleets in dorm and it's stupid to even try to grind 3 fleets at a time if you don't want to gimp your point gains
the XP and drops are all shit too
i see loli themed event 
I have a question regarding the II ships, do you still get the oath skin if you oath the II ship over the OG?
so better doing normal thant coalition?
normal gives you less points/run
Woh, alright thanks for answering. I was having a debate whether I should be oathing both Yorkies.
basically you're fucked if you do and fucked if you don't
solo seems like less effort lol
it is, until you realize you need to do more runs for the same amount of points
I’m chilling. I’ll do a few a day and should easily get the 8000 points for the torps. Will be spending most of my time in 12-1 tbh
I'm just lowcosting this rubbish and pressing repeat when I have time to
Thank you
Dont have enough leveled ships 
I remember there was something system like this before, well I forgot
Frost fall was 2022?
Ye
Frostfall
ahh thats u are talking about
March 2023
the really annoying part is this has the normal milestone rewards so there's gold plates to get up to 55k
i thought the event would be nice but what the fuck? nothing but a low budget boss rush
Thank fuck, only one of these every two years is less awful
pretty sure there was pretty negative feedback for the format itself, but everyone was busy with the towel skins
is this the thing i spam always?
it's the least troublesome to run, that's all I can tell you
No it wasnt 2022
God damnit
for me this is the most bullshit thing that manjuu ever created
once a year oh nooooooooo 
The plates are at 45k which ig is slightly better 
wait there's no repeat button? D:
sad that these points are milestone
auto repeat is 5x, there is
on team preparation
no as in the repeat again after clear
if you want to, collector or waifu
I do as a collector
what level enemys at sp stage?
mainly for waifu/collection/tech points
rubbish ships is sitll a ship for 100%ers
Also their tech is pretty good
Understandable,
A lot of older players also have cube stocks in the four digit counts
hard was 100, SP is probably around 110
So it’s not really an issue for us to pull for everything
Sp is 110
which is better solo or use 3 fleet?
it is
3 fleets if you can
Say are there any good gear setups for kearsarge without the rainbow plane?
Is alvitr a good unit? Worth 80 cubes?
No
There's no rainbow fighter plane in the game yet
just give her like a gold hellcat, TIgercat, or flapjack
how do you unlock sp
beat hard
clear Hard
where is hard
after normal
which is after easy
Bro I got her on my first 20 cubes
Ok and?
#trophy-room is that way
should i buy seydlitz or pass?
up to you
Welp she got me good with them horns and legs I guess cause I got her for 80 cubes lol😭
Bruh bro didnt wait for a answer and pulled
Just to make sure I didn't miss anything, the free event summon (ticket summon) is only availble during rerun right?
he probably already pulled which is why he asked 80 cubes
Yes
only for non-collab reruns yee
Ok tq
Am I crazy or stupid coz oil cost doesnt add up?
when will the next UR event? a rerun right?
do you have any submarines in thefleet
One purple
next new UR will be in Sept
next event in line to rerun is a UR but we dont know if that'll be before Sept or after
you need to 3 fights
so that cost is for that fleet over the battles you'll be doing
I'm guessing 3 fights, that's 31 with 25 cap + 6 for sub each fight
Ok i am stupid thanks
Lil graf Spee is mainline ship in story?? Weird.
ships appearing odd slots happens occasionally for event battles
RPG had super weird slots too
still want the clevebros super gun
should i go for solo chall or coalition chall?
coal
Wait, does this event have oil cap?
solo gives less points
coalition needs more ships
yes
hard and SP has cap after first clear
Hard and SP have it
Which stage?
hard and sp
I don't see cap on hard
so are yall doing 1:1 for the hard stage?
have you cleared hard
Do we need to wait tmrw or we can spam hard? 
Yes
should look something like this then
do you need like super well built ships to 1:1 sp
you dont have to clear to unlock oil cap
is the only weay to beat this SP have 4 fleets at 110+?
pretty sure you do
nah you do
My bad captain should have came here first🫡 I’ll be honest though them devs sure knew how to target me🤧
i just started and i see the oil cap
same, i saw oil cap lol
not like cap matters anyway I'm not doing that rubbish on hard 
Hmm, I see oil cap now
yeah lol
im just bumrushing hard until I get 10k then dipping back to 12-4 
it's a fancy raid event without the doomsday timer
whats at 10k?
the ship
This event grind really suck, 3 fleet you have to worry about morale and stuff
oh okay cool
pt milestone ship because free DD FP tech
and the new torps are at 8k
Should l spend gems on dorm or tactic I'm new at the game.
Dorm
dorm up to 3 slots + 2/F
dockspace all the way after that
if you grind alot, 3rd dorm slot and 2nd floor of dorm
And then everything else is full send into dock space no exception
Tactic is crap trap
Alright ty for the tip!
Wait, event map need to me to push to continue, it isn't auto change battle
It stuck in waiting screen for the last 2 min 
I'll probably do my usual 60k anyway
it'll only auto progress if you use the repeat option, just normal sortie won't do it
wait so theres no event shop?
that's even if you only set it to 1 run for the repeat
there isn't, one of the reasons why this format is shit
correct
man... that kinda makes me not wanna farm this event
other times u could get so much free stuff w the event coins
It is still worth farming up to 45k for the gold plates
But up to you how much u want to farm
It is 14 days u dont need to do it all today 
sounds like a steal I only need to do 5k a day
Am I somehow able to change my UR exchange? I've seen some ppl have different UR ships in exchange menu, what's the difference in it ?
there's only NJ and Shinano in it
how are the ex scores calculated
porbably the usual clear times and fleet power shit
Am I able to change that? Or I have to wait for another UR?
You redeem it for one of those two at 400 pulls
this event way harder than previous event
how i can complete the SP stage ?
they have never added new URs to it yet
you can freely select which of the two you want when you go to redeem it
I know, but I have them both already, and I want something new...
And I'm wondering if I have to wait or, after redeeming these two I will get another
next ship to be added is probably Shimakaze and we have no idea when that will happen, based on the rerun time chances are end of this year or later
same fleet you used for previous SP?
u need 4 fleets to do SP?
Anddd my fleet cant even win the first battle 
So if I have 400 now, it would be better to exchange for shining rn?
they wont add Shima or UvH anytime soon
completely up to you if you want to save the pity (esp if you dont have them yet) or just redeem it now and scrap the dupe
time & sinked ships
are both Shinano and NJ maxed, if yes then just take any one and scrap or keep for trophy
b but i need 4 fleet now while backthen i only need 2
shitty format can't reuse normal setup
Thus adding to my hatred of this format
is alivitir good?
I have Shinano on 4 stars, if I'm gonna take shinano can I upgrade her with her duplicate ?
Or only with bulimis?
at the previous event sp stage i mean
yeah that works
in fact that's the only pratical use for dupes in general
that's because it's bad. are you sure that could even beat previous SP?
dupes and bulins both work
by focusing my ship to 2 team yeah but now i have to split it to 4 fleet
highly doubt she'd be of any value outside of tech
well thats not good
Hmmn, so all get S or A-rank XP? 
i literally only have 12 ship with lv 100 ++ the rest are suck , and i have to make 4 fleet with that 12 ships
keep your ships alive, ez 
have you considered just not touching SP if you cant build enough fleets
dogshit XP either way
i bring 3 actual geared ships and the rest are meat shields
is the EX easy? or need 🕹️
yeah might be
you can cram shit onto fleet 1 and just kill 1 boss and be done with it
this did the job for me and I forgot to even give Guam a secondary gun
it won't even let me start with one fleet for some reason...
shove junk into the remaining fleets, you need to have all 5 fleets setup

aight lemme try that
also boss was BB but my Guam was using shitty Azuma gun because was testing for META
this feels like one one of the cheapest ways to get affinity for 125s
ex?
how are u supposed to grind this event?
1:1 it all the way ?
it could be
im just grinding Hard
ew max tech +oath
with full fleets?
is it fine to just do to 10k so i get the character once and stop with the event?
i just did 1:1 until ex then i went full fleets
this was what Musashi was using, if you're using proper boss gear the oath and tech hardly matters
I also already said Guam wasn't geared properly either and that still killed first boss fine
@sweet delta i read and didn't understand anything. Prob because it's too late in the night
i'm doing coalition on hard mode, pretty fast to reach milestones and bail
with full fleets?
oh u only killed first boss?
^
2100 pts per 5 runs kekw
oil cap
yeah, Hard mode and SP have oil cap
you can't use 1 fleet for all 5 bosses anyway
that change a lot if i can clear the sp stage with only winning 1 or 2 of the battle instead all of them
i was worried about morale
well I simply refuse to waste oil for hard and morale is ass
if its first boss, then i kinda just ran zwei + otto
just change the teams, too many idle ships anyway 
using idle ships implies I'll need to gear them
since there isnt a store, its kinda just rush milestone then im done right?
also where do i get the mag torps from again
wait its in pins
milestone
Is it worth using kazagumo in a triple cv fleet(shinano, haku, avp) over something else(for ex. Tai yuan)
yes
definitely
especially seeing as you need a 3rd IJN to proc Shinano's buffs
Any of the new ships worth getting or is this a pass? I’d like to save as many cubes for vanguard rerun if possible
Will kazagumo skill stack with Sirius or nah
they do completely different things
are those magnetics better than the regular magnetic quad?
they're just tech
Pass then, new torp good?
yes
Omg 4 fleet?? Plz tell me this can be done easily
So a CB, kazagumo, Sirius vanguard be good for 3x shinano, haku, avp then
Is there oil cap btw
yes, says so right there
hard does
that's the standard yes
basically u need arround 24 ship arround lv 110 
Insane
Not for newbie ig
you can probably do it with 3-4 ships in 1 fleet at 110+ if properly geared
Does hard drop anything worth farming?
across 4 fleets should be able to make it with 12-16 ships
I will try thx
yes if you lose you just get nothing
rip
i tought i can clear it by only killing 1 boss
that's for EX
meanwhile me : cant even clear sp 
2 weeks to level glhf
so, this event might be same gameplay style like Frostfall right?
since it has that 5 fleet thingy again 
where is intel ?
not might
Is there any other carrier I should retrofit other than Unicorn?
lemme leveling my ships to lv 110 first i guess before retry the sp
it is exactly the Frostfall format
If a ship you use has a retrofit you should probably do it. Small irrelevant exception for BBV's
oh, okay 
i think i should upgrade enty , z23 , nelson , brenus to arround lv 110 before retrying sp
which??
saratoga
can anyone make me a fleet for this?
what is armor for ex bosses
Saratoga and Ark royal ig
otherwise no one really
Yorktown, Akagi, Lexington, and Shinano dont have retrofits as well
alr thanks
afaict there's no reward advantage for doing sp. if you can do it, do it to maybe save some time. if you can't, you can't.
preload cv and dodge better
whats preload cv and what do you mean dodge better?
ew medium armor
dont auto and save ur cv
i gotta redo all my gear
unicorn, aquila, perseus, indy, akaga, etc
So i do get this right as newer player, in the upcoming months there will be the global anni, japanese anni and also the Vanguard rerun?
Currently debating if i should pull in this event or replace my daily light pull with a daily event pull or even three or skip it all together
Got 580 cubes but too be honest, only Alvitr interest me and even then, i have a bunch of big titty iron blood mommies already
can gamble a little, but set a limit
whats with them?
they have preloads or launch fast
you can get every ship no problem. just do you want to
carriers that start battle with an airstrike loaded or have significantly faster airstrike timers
oh wait it’s him 
all of them can clear the screen 3 or even 4 times
... i had to pity Alsace so i am kinda skeptical about getting any ship with no problem
EN anniv is in August and is most certainly not a UR event due to its proximity to JP Anniv
JP anniv is in Sept and is most certainly a UR event
Vanguard Rerun is next in line but we dont know when it'll happen
and 400 cube is pity so you have about 180 cubes to spare give or take, if you really want to be conservative, 1 pull per day. The ships on this banner arent that exciting outside of tech
basically as soon as the battle start they can shoot their plane , normally u have to wait if the ship dont have preload
Ah, August and September then
Thank you
did you try it yet?
ship with preload = u already have ammo for the gun u want to shoot at the start of the battle , ship without preload = u coming with empty gun and u have to load the ammo
still fails
you actually only need this part
dodge better
?
play manually
What do you not understand about dodge better?
and dodge
skill issue in its purest form
everything
Anyone have the boss order and armor type for sp and hard?
like what do you mean dodge? dodge what?
move your ships where the torpedoes aren't
dodge the attacks
did u not see the enemy shoot bullet and bunch of other thing in the screen ?
nah i just tabbed out and did something else
xD
still dies
yeah that why do this and dodge.
Skill issue imo
could be gear issue too
gear literally does not matter
Just got T0 tenrai. Who should I put it on? I’ve got Enty too tbh but not currently using her
survivability gear definitely does matter
do you really want to go down that route? torp bulge on helena retro would be a start 
really ?
how about maxed repair tool vs no repair tool
can someone make me a fleet for this?
Is that the fucking sub weekly
hey at least hes doing the daily raids now
Don’t bother you almost certainly don’t have the subs for it
i don't mind recommending alt-tab royal fortune fleet
It is the fucking sub weekly
Holy shit it’s the fucking sub weekly

how the actual fuck are you even supposed to do this????
eeeh no one else except sara can use it tho ? and enty
need good ships
you have like 30 torpedos for like 40 ships and each ships takes like 8 torpedos to kill
Tenrai would most definitely by an improvement over the btd destroyer
@meager gyro
whats that?
Oh derp yeah dive bomber.
I rather doubt they should be dropping 1500 core data on RF at this time given the state of their account
Reading the wiki might help
get royal fortune. 120 + max her guns. go.
Bearn meta can
idk what you want from me
you want to provide a solution that will work go for it
i preferr sara tho
exactly what i said
the fuck does this have to do with the submarine weekly
why are you speaking in riddles
wrong reply
it doesn’t go backread
was about to reply him
get I-56 MLB, max her torps and stick with level 65 raid for now
or better yet
wait until they have their gear situation sorted
yeah no that's exactly why I said that

they still aren't in W12 and everything resource wise is fucked
in like 5 years?
yeah I'd still recommend RF
