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Thanks
What's the best place to grind CVs and CVLs for enhancing other ships?
there isn't one

just keep grinding 12-1/12-4 like you should be doing
you should do so while doing other stuff ^
like grinding levels or coins
Why 12-1?
Is it more fuel efficient than 12-4?
you can get away with lower level ships in 12-1
12-1 is if you care more about XP per oil
12-4 is if you care more about gold per oil
eh
Thanks
I always 12-4 for exp
Care more about coin than XP, chips man, chips
No I thought 12-4 give more exp
it does give more exp per run
but it's not as efficient per oil
i don't understand hwah jah i crafted 2 suisei model 21 but she can't equip it
Did you check the her gear if it fits though
hwah jah can't use the 21 iirc
the model 21 is only usable on BBVs
like hyuuga/ise/yamashiro/fuusou retros and kearsage
yea you cant equip the 21 on her
yeah i only have FBA 19 on my depot
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Kawanishi_N1K1_Kyoufuu
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Aichi_M6A_Seiran
one of these
I mean that's light aircraft carrier
hwah jah uses seaplanes
as does chen hai
Yet model 21 is for BBV as you said
wiki told me hwah jah equips seaplanes, and that suisei model 21 are seaplanes
the seiran has better bombs
the kyoufuu has better interception
model 21 is a seaplane that can ONLY be used on BBV
im guessing you didn't check the gear specifically...
hmmm ender, is it worth it to build Princess hime?
see?
oops
she is the best of the munition ships but
best of the worse ain't good
hmmm what's worth? F6F hellcat HVAR or F4U (Don't have enough mats for XF5U)
munitions ship 
fighter
HVAR is specifically used in opsi/meta showdowns for killing light armoured bosses
it doesn't see use anywhere else
as for f4u... which one
So if I only use that ship for General F4U then before XF5U
"Pirate" squad
isnt that core?
well if you already spent your core data on that might as well...
it is the best of the 2x500lb fighters iirc
~~Well still haven't yet, kinda saving for independence ~~
dont buy it then.
don't buy it then 
buy it
use a tech box 2x500lb bomb fighter
just use your other gold fighters (not named comet or me155)
wait how am i here
though Idk if I got lucky and Got Shinano in accident

That's why still contemplating
But oh well might buy independence
just use a seafang or regular hellcat for the time being
lacking either a purple corsair
Is there like a Eventkalender? What is coming next?
indep can be your mobbing and shinano your bossing cv (After you actually get enough bulin for MLB ofc)
there is no event calendar or roadmap really
all we know is what event is coming next
#game-news check game news from time to time
hmmmm should I farm opsi or just wait the reset... kinda got lazy in opsi
farm opsi
farm farm farm. the more you farm the faster your equipment improves

your purple and gold AP boxes dont carry to next reset
don't have one anyway

hmmm next question
by lazy you mean not doing a single thing this whole month
Should I ignore the META boss while farming and it will exceed the daily qouta or just farm
fight it, request for help
do meta boss, its literally free
you farm far more points than daily quota normally
is it recommended to buy the R4, R3, R2 coordinate loggers in opsi?
regarding cats:
is it possible for a gold cat to spawn with S11 or S2; alternatively, a purple cat to spawn with a single S
in other words, a special skill replace 2 skill points?
how does the confort rating affect the morale recovery?
nothing
Comfort Rating exists only to increase the XP earned
it should tell you somewhere in game
either way 300 comfort is good, and after 400 comfort you will be getting small returns
i never paid attention to it. but i just boosted it from 300 to 400!
wow the return is indeed tiny. i have 444 and its 81% 
yes, after 400 comfort gains near plateau
also after a point if you want to further increase confort you're gonna have to pay gems, which really just isn't worth it 
at 400, my gain is 80%
ok
on vacation but suffering?!?!
did everyone get that game survey a couple weeks ago?
when a piece of monthly furniture can randomly bump your comfort score 
I forgot about the survey
taz -> 
Hi
I've a question, how do I get rich? 
farm 12-4 
in term of coins ofc, I feel like research is eating so much coins, I'm always struggling
How much in avg 12-4 give? 
1.5k per 3 run
So 500 each
there's a chart in the pins
thats wayyyyyyyyy too little
no it's like 2k per run
That's because its not true
thank you guys 
real question is: would it be faster to get a job and buy coins with gems 
/wiki chapter 12x
like how many coins can $15 get you
or play AL while you work
with no double gems bonus
like straight coins ?
coins are round
It will definitely be faster for gems though, not coins
like 30k coins
lame
wow thats nothing in exchange for 15 bucks
Or buy oil and convert that on 12-4 
Is chkalov and Prinz ruprecht good?
how many 12-4 runs can $15 worth of oil get you
isnt it like almost 1k oil a run for 12-4
981 iirc for 3
1k for 3
/wiki chapter 12x
oh yea 3 runs
15000 oil if u only buy daily refills
so how many 12-4 runs is that
30k coins is 1.5 rings. I'll take 1.5 rings thank you.
15000 / 981 = x find for x
question about reset in opsi, it does say that all maps that have vae in secured statust will be reset.... does the become dark again?
idk like less than 50
thats a good 15 runs
congrats to that waifu for getting half a ring
2144 it says on wiki oh, oil
nice
don't worry we can just ask more stupid questions like how many gems is 60k coins.
question, does the strategic search can use the request recon?
15 dollars of oil can get you 15k oil, which gets you 32160 coins
1800 right?
I be chinese, give me money, I grind for you 
my math bad
🧵
so If strategic search doesn't use request recon, will it stop from completing the map that is black out?
so $15 of oil can get you ~100k coins from grinding 12-4 while $15 of coins gets you ~30k 
yes buy oil with gems is objectively better
Got 166 + 2064 for 12-4 run
oh well tnx for answering, sadge
that's what 5k oil logger is for...
the lazy
one of us
What's the best mobbing bb, I usually just use FDR?
musashi
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Imo it depends
But at least for w15 and probably also 14? yeah
i got better results in W14 farming with FdG
better with Musa in W15
i got best results with musashi in any campaign for bb mob
my uvh beat out my musashi in W3-4 mobbing
ur sushi sucks
don’t say that 
preloader op in 1-1
Which gun is better for alsace? Or is it more towards the right side if I want her as dmg while left gun for debuffing?
Left useful if u want to stagger her dmg
But u could just do right + radar for that 
right if u use her with helena since the timing matched , left if u want to spam her barrage faster
What barrage
I was using the right side most of the time was just considering swapping to left cause tier list seems to suggest it being better
i feel like 457 is much better on average than mk7
what you feel, and what actually is happening are 2 different things 
odin gun above champys and the like is something
i feel like it coz its happening
sounds like conjecture 
I think I'm just gonna assume left is for more of her debuffing barrage while right is for more dmg...
left is for when u want uptime and stuff expodes, right is for when u need to deal dmg
Sup guys whats the recommended guns for felix?
Her gun is the CL gun from PR6 right? 
Copy that thanks
i like her gun because collection and I don't have spare meta guns for an off meta ship
It depends, if you already are done with research you can do whatever, but for a start you should have atleast 2 tenrais and 2 plyguns and a Hinden gun before going onto getting extra ones from any other season 
how'd you rate felix gun in comparison to other cl AP guns (ply gun excluded ofc)
what seasons are those from
4, 5 and 6 respectively
tenrai pr4, ply gun pr5, hinden pr6
ty
that's all UR equipment
Yeah forgot to say that 
that's why I kept it simple to the question asked
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research if you haven't gotten into research I recommend you give this a read
PR4 has generally the most used equipment, PR5, and PR6 has one to 2 pieces of desirable equipment
Oh 
but i speed ran them so never got to to get the equipment
do PR5 for the 2 weeks we have left until PR7 drops for more Plymouth gun prints if you have 2 tenrais
since the gold for blue prints unlocked so fast
i do have 2 tenrais
ill do pr 5 then first
swapped to pr5 last week to start getting plymouth/brest BPs. already have 2 tenrais and a ply, but should i stay on pr5 even when pr7 comes out since i'm missing plymouth?
depends on the line up of PR7
PR5 until PR7 drops
ok
well, aside from the italian dr CA, do we have any info on the other ships?
none what so ever
darn
I wouldn't expect any reveals for at least the next week
we'll prob start to get some teasers for it like next week
at least halfway thru this upcoming SP event
i hope the entire season isnt game changing so i can focus on at least plymouth, i'll skip brest if i have to as i've got agir and guam. i can always build azuma after i get marco polo finished if i need more tanks
I'd do Brest over Azuma if you need more tanks
i only say azuma cause i can coin her while i work on pr7
Fair
any chance they'll rework this whole opsi thing someday?
and you know, 
Why rework it to start with? 
dont see anything wrong with opsi...
why the hell would they do that
he gonna want the whole thing automated watch
same old grind month after month, i guess that's fine if you are into that
spend 5k oil
The game itself is same old grind back to back 
honestl that goes for alot of gacha games in general
nah, i connected pipes a couple weeks ago.
wait until he finds out that that's secretly the entire azur lane gameplay loop
Épée and fleurette are IL vanguard ships, correct?
dont reveal secrets, the manjuu will come for you
on felix and otto? it's comparable slightly worse like 5% than plygun and far better than seattle 10%? you would never use it on a cl. it sucks there.
i was just curious if it ever changes. no biggie, don't have to do it
GL with that then
They are Vichya Dominion ships
ah ok then
im gonna go ahead and bother people again with this..
its still extremely infuriating to figure out which ships you can limit break with dupes in azur lane. it is by FAR the most annoying and infuriating part of the game. making dock space feels like a huge chore. filtering by which can be limit broken does nothing to solve this issue because it does not show which ships among the ones can be limit broken you have duplicates of. I cant possibly be the only one infuriated by this. every day, I have to spend dozens of minutes, maybe an hour scrolling through all my limit breakable ships and tapping the + sign to see if one or two i have duplicates of
is there still no better way of going about this?

have less ships in ur dock, ez
Filter by Rarity and duped ships appear next to each other
but that doesnt show which can be limit broken
Limit breaks are a 10,30,70 it's not that hard to remember
Wait what
i fucking hate numbers
So they don't count towards Brest exp?
you have to look at two things from what smootie suggested. if a ships has dupes and if that ship passes limit break points

Fleet improvements and upgreads (Started playing again when Alsace came out)
but not everyone of those ships are limit breakable (you might have already limit broken them)
any french ship counts towards her xp, vichya dominion and iris libre work. as long as a cdc is available
they still count
just that vanguard ships only count for CDC 2
can you show me what this looks like? someone suggested this already but I dont see the stars
its just really annoying and time consuming
open the game and look under a portrait card man
its a niche problem for people who got too much dock space and dont want to remove low quality ships when they 120
I still dont get what they mean.. some have 6 max stars.. some 4.. care to elaborate?
Unicorn has all Stars lit, which means she can't be limit broken any further, Le Temerarie has 1 left so that means she can be limit broken one more time 
thanks.. do each limit break add 1 star?
max stars depends on rarity but doesn’t actually mean anything cause all ships need 3 limit breaks 
I use the dupes to enhance or quick retire them. After doing that, if you click on retire, the only ships listed will be the unlocked dupes that can be used for limit breaking.
Just have everyone max limit broken like me 
Srsly though this pretty much only matters for SRs and you should mostly get them rarely enough that you can just crank the lvl up with exp books and LB as you get the dupe
And this depends on rarity mostly but all of them need 3 Limit breaks regardless
Commons have max 4*
Rare and Elites max 5*
SR and URs max 6*
This is ok? Just gonna level her in 12-4
Got someone called Lutzow
Trash
ok good to know
Well, not trash but there's better BBs/BCs out there
Tech fodder 
smo0tie calling people trash tosic 
justified
says the ship will be unlocked at level ten, but it isnt letting me increase its dev level anymore. what do I do?
how?
that's saying that her ship lvl has to be lvl 10 before you can put more dev lvls in
This is their equivalent of mininum lvl thresholds for MLB
OH i thought i didnt have her yet
No, you already got her in your dock, give her exp packs
Tho you shouldn't really use her yet cuz of how low her Dev lvl is
use exp packs
yeah sometimes the text in this game is wonky lol
if i have both ships already limit broken does it rlly matter who i choose or should i wait until they add another UR to the perma pool
Probably wait, assuming it will work that way
does it work that way?
is seydlitz even worth it for her tech or should i spend my event points on something else?
also, if one is caught up on all URs, don't think UR pity is worth anything but medals
she's still worth the tech points
i'm biased, but because she's fast, she was fun to level up
sure you might have all the URs but we dont know how many he has outside of NJ and shinano
is she worth spending all event currency on her instead of everything else
that's true for them
huh why
space (kinda) + got better bbs that are well trained already
i really gotta start focusing on my cvs
are you like one of those collectors or do you just not dump your common rarity shitters on a regular basis
i wouldn’t really call myself a collector and i do scrap commons regularly
i have 20+ space as of rn
scrap her after you MLB her if you really want to, ig
she doesnt give good fleet tech so 
is this event last day?
shop in opsi doesnt reset anymore?
when its all sold out its over no point checking anymore?
the first of the month after your first reset the port changes to a different system. I think it's the same items, just you can pick and choose what you get at which time
yeah new system that unlocks items for purchase based off of the # of zones you've cleared
Since you seem to have the old version, yes, if its sold out its sold out
i have 3700 special cores, the shop resets in 5 days and i already got the specialized cores from weekly quests what the fastest way i can get to 4k for bulin
There's no rush, you can buy the Bulins whenever needed
They're infinite right? No need to do it before reset?
Yeah, they are infinite as long as you got enough spec cores ofc
wait do those not count to the 5k cap?
it dont
It does not
yes, you can earn 6k per month

ya
6k per month makes UR bulin grabs so much better
2 every other month outside of events 
nice for mid game, and new players, kind of w/e for long time players
Well gotta wait till next month, but you also don't need to buy your bulins as soon as they are available, wait till you got 4 to instantly limit break a ship otherwise it may lead into partially MLBing ships which is a big nono 
i guess i'm mid game then despite being at w14 (too much of a pansy to do harby)
Who are the best Sakura CV twins of these 3, Shoukaku & Zuikaku, Akagi & Kaga or Hiryuu & Souryuu?
crashing into world 14 is pretty much a standard thing for mid game players these days 
the first one is generally better for bossing
Kay thanks!
Akagi, and Kaga perform the worst out of those
I've retrofitted Souryuu & Hiryuu btw
yeah i've got fleets made for w14, just absentmindedly grinding till dead week
medal shop
Get Haku and Nano 
hakunano superiority
i have multiple partially mlb ships and @viscid swift told me to mlb bismark zwei and yk2 first so i kinda need the bulin
Oh you already commited the big nono 
pretty sure you were told to work on one at a time 
what if its not capped yet
so question about the 1k in mdeal shop, should you wait till you've hit your 5k cap and then buy them?
do i just grind story
you can buy it any time regardless of how much of the 5k you've grinded so far
We just said it doesnt count towards it
hey guys does anyone know the best way to lvl ships? i have 2 fleets that are around the lvl 100 mark but the rest are below that. Is there a quick way to farm xp for them using my main fleets or do i have to just do low level stage to lvl them to 100?
grind grind grind any stage that has oil cap
Quickest would be XP packs
Most practical would to farm a stage
kk
9-1, 10-4, 11-4 i think have the best xp per oil. 12-4 more for gold iirc
That was my fleet a while back while farming 12-4
11-1 has best XP Per oil but most people farm 12-1/12-4
was about to say SOS is dead
fleet tech difference. i'm too much of a wuss to remove uni for MP cdc2
more like gear diff
is there some max efficency technique to lvl them up when they are really low lvl like 1? i got some new ships but cant use them:(
Well I do also have 5 +13 57s in the fleet which certainly helps
use exp packs
share pls i only have 1
you put them in dorm and/or feed them XP packs until they're like lvl 100 then shove them into a W12 grinding fleet
I'm literally out of useful tech to level
isnt dorm for improving their morale? should i just leave them in there and not worry about my other fleets that are losing morale?
1st floor of dorm gives XP as well
2nd floor doesnt give XP but has faster morale regen in return
Heck I have less than a dozen ships that even give tech at 120 to level still
that's why I just default to quick clears to drag vanguards to 120 
Hi can anyone help me on who to take with the medals? The second screen are all my rares ships i would say
wait i thought the second floor didnt provide anything only for decorations?
Everyone there besides Hood is tech fodder
So, Izumo’s augment. Does it really do much to bring her line with more modern PRs?
What does tech folder mean, srry im new, started last week
Is maintaining concealment vs hermit impossible? 
She's a lot better but she's still no Owari
Tech fodder means that their only mainline use is for faction tech points and fleet tech bonuses (Tech points mainly go towards unlocking research ships)
I see. Wouldn’t it make sense to use both though?
ya, maintaing concealment in ops is a little tricky
yup it wasnt just a empty space to put furniture
Well not if I have BB better than Owari or any better main fleet
will laffey 2 or guam at base limit break be able to carry their own weight in 12-1, or are they more of a liability at that point?
Farming for anchorage and just trynna figure out who to run as eagle vanguard.
ops planes either have no HP, or way more HP than a conventual setup would be able to kill @undone plover
wait this whole time? im lvl 68 and i just learned taht
To push no
For farming just about anything works in w12 in safe
Tbh it is the suicide boats with hermit
My crossfleet just doesnt clear em
Though I would seriously look at all of your options before committing to 0 LB URs even for farming
so should i use 1st floor and put a team there and then leave them there to get xp until 100 and use the secnd floor as a moral boost floor?
memorize it or write it down. you also should be intimately aware of what dupes you have from retire screen. Anything there that doesn't auto retire should be a limit break dupe. if you wanted to keep a dupe, lock it.
yeah that works
ill try
passive dorm xp is super cope. puts ships you use in dorm. if you want to micromanage, cycle in unused ships when not playing
barely touched ToT
bro
you gotta do her retrofit (more like 80% of it but you may as well do the other 20%) for rookie missions
She's a very good budget tank outside of that too
so is there an alternative to level like new ships that desnt require me farming really low lvl stages to get them up?
XP Books
Which are mainly obtained by grinding with lvl 100+ ships
This is what you save your XP packs for
Sooo im using this time to lvl up the fleet one i have. Am i also able to get bismarck by drop rates from doing the n.08 archive?
xp packs
despite being featured on the WA's banner, no
Bismarck doesn't drop period
whats the best way to farm the xp packs? i have ships at lvl 100+ but dont get many xp books
Dammit, so its only through requisition?
literally just go grind your ass off on a map that has oil cap with a full fleet
Upgrade the lecture hall and farm with them
Medal shop (BB Selection)
Requisition is only for if you absolutely love being scammed
She's in the medal shop rotation
stop using them to take ships from 119 to 120?
Ughhhhhh, great....
tank wise, would she be better than montpelier? Cuz thats who i was thinking of running...
ngl Bismarck's pretty mid anyways outside of providing Iron Blood tech so you're not missing much with her
you can't pick bb in requisition...
yes
Its fine, im just having to play the waiting game for it to reset to than pick her cause why not nab bismarck... fantastic
if you make Monty's unique augment, sure she can mob tank
Portland most likely tanks better than her tho
Insert comment about Bismarck being overrated to pass off wehraboos here
Soo is there even a point on doing the war archives besides them being useless?
DC for Iron blood tech
Ships
Divergent chessboard for Iron blood tech points
Skybound for Jeanne if you dont want to get her from merit shop
Passionate Polaris for a oil cap map if you havent gotten to W9 yet
Noted
So, PR ships, I have pretty much all the PR4 ones (except Marco, but idk if she’s really necessary for me). I have Plymouth, Kearsarge, and FdG already, as well as Harbin and a few other PRs. I’m unsure, who should a go for next?
I have a couple ships I’m thinking of, but I’m unsure and want an idea for who’s recommended.
you do Marco and max her out anyways to make getting the BPs for the other PR4s faster
but if you already did all of that, then sure you can skip her for later
You mean unlock and not research focus yes?
Yes
Doesn't really matter at this point if you don't have many BPs for any of them
Cheshire might be useful and Azuma and Drake are a glut of Prototype cores waiting to be farmed
Oh, the others are already high enough.
Agir max, Anch is Sim5, Hakyu is Dev30, AvP is Dev 24 (but since she can use gold I don’t see the need for more BPs for her).
events, 12+. it's not too hard to cap. Income starts at 26 and goes up to 53 a day. You get a bunch from raids and weeklies and cruise also.
for autofarming it keeps using my mob fleet for boss fight what do i do to fix
change role
Change the settings
In terms of CBs, I was kind of considering Brest, as I thought she possibly be of more use than Azuma, idk though.
I have 208 Brest BP
You'll want to get her eventually but there's no reason to rush her is what I'm saying
At least unlocking
You're at the point where you are free to dictate whoever you want to unlock and have it not really matter in the slightest
I mean, gameplay wise, I was considering either Brest, Azuma, or Cheshire. Just general want, I like a lot of the PR2 ships, but the ones I don’t already have aren’t going to be doing much for me gameplay wise. I like Kitikaze and Georgia, but they’re really not going to be doing anything unless they get some random busted augment.
They won't and that's why it doesn't really matter
Gascogne and champagne are good BB tech 
At the same time why not unlock some of your favorites
You're past the initial stage of progression and at the point where you have some freedom to pick and choose what you do
Isn’t Gascogne technically the better of the two gameplay-wise, or no?
Pick whichever ones you want to unlock, it won't matter
fleet tech > favorites. This isn't supposed to be fun
Yeah I think she is the better BB between those 2
Tech is a whole other rabbit hole entirely
I guess getting another French BB would help with doing Brest grind as well…
gasco is fun

Thanks for the help, I have a good idea on what to narrow down to.
Smh binge watching hell's kitchen

how is Sandy's surface dmg post augment? I heard it got a lot better but how much so?
damn
She is bugged currently
But yes should hit those levels on paper
nice to see it
yo where can i find a list of ships suitable for mob or boss fleets
no such list exists becuase that's vauge af
Alot of ships do decently fine for both
If you want fleet building advice, just post your dock in a thread
aight thanks
i forgot to check, will the rerun event exchange shop be open for another week or its also gone with mt?
Who's most likely to be the next UR rerun?
vanguard
The former
shop will stay until july third
alright nice
what's the bug? I didn't hear this yet
good catch, I wouldn't have noticed that as an issue, would've assumed it was what it was
Oh wow no wonder sandy was so far behind from paper
Is the VIT-2 better than skypirate?
about equal
That's the neat part: you don't
Jokes aside, you will almost always get enough of the season-exclusive gold equipment naturally in the process of researching a given season, so there's no particular reason to worry about that too much
It's getting the rainbow equipment that's the difficult part, equipment-wise
is this a bad cat talents
Flame is good, but the rest are middling at best and awful at worst given that Bishamaru is pretty much always built as a pure CV cat
pure CV cat?
Why do you think I said "pretty much" always? I'm well aware there are at least some people who do nutty shit like that
should i use this cat with lv3 talent or my other bishamaru with 3 cv stats at lv1 talent
the other one doesnt have flame also
Why did you pick helmsman in the first place though
Which one should I put in my boss fleet, unzen, Harbin, shimikaze, or yuddachi retro
Boss fleet for what
Does next event have event shop?
I don't think so
Patch notes make it sound like Frostfall

If it's campaign boss fleet then
Unzen > the rest
Have always wondered but what do those gauges things next to carriers mean?
/detection
Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553
For more information, consult the wiki
Bless those who remember the commands so I don't have to 
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Can guarantee I'll forget in a few hours 
Also the "enemy BBs won't attack your CV when hidden" kinda bothers me ngl...
"Can't be chosen as a valid target" sure, but the idea that they "can't be attacked" is a tad misleading isn't it 
Thats one of the several technically wrong things about the command, do you know the others?
the other one was bad
You could have upgraded the cruiser FP
Both cats are mid but I suppose the carrier talents one has more potential so go with that
ok
if i enhance other cat with this cat, will talent level transfer
so should i keep this cat
No, I can't even remember all the commands 
if you have no better then yes
If you have space, keep them
You can feed to better cats for exp and skill level-up if/when you get them
should i feed my lv24 DD purple cat to my other yellow DD cat
actually nevermind ill figure this out myself
I mean in the detection command

I'm guessing we can set aside the unique situation in that gamemode nobody in here cares for...
I probably would take issue with "slowly filled" given that all sources of change to the gauge are discrete and not continuous changes, particularly because some change it so drastically that I would not call it "slow"
Incidentally, do we count submarines as "ships"?
Also doesn't mention natural recovery except implicitly
Also, while it mentions "being spotted", it doesn't mention that there is a separate and extra gauge modification when that plane or ship actually crashes into the backline
And I probably should be pedantic enough to note that not all sources of gauge increase on the part of the ship itself need be "airstrikes" in any reasonable sense of that word
And let's not even get into barrages that modify the gauge irregularly, or even priority order between airstrike and barrages launched on airstrike 
Yeah, maybe one should just leave the command like it is...
what's better for general use SHS or High standard fire control
If anyone ever figures out what "general use" entails, please do tell 
That aside, I prob use HPFCR + white shell > 90% of the time myself
same
that means you think hsfcr is better for general use
I honestley I just interpret "general use" as you set it and forget it basically

thanks i just have shs lying around when im new
Great ||now go revise the command with some help from green names||
Did suchi go EN on my last sentence?
give tldr pls
I can’t read
Reading is for nerds
God's in his heaven, all is right in EN 
is event end in 5h
Y
i can buy seydlitz and DR prints, or DR prints, array and oil
buy seyd if you don't have her already, the PR adn DR prints are for series 4
Incidentally, I'd personally prio cogs over prints if it comes down to that
seydlitz if u dont have her already and DR prints imo(free chunk of protocore if you have a dr4 at dev30/fs5)
boomer
The ironic thing about that cooper is I'm almost sure I started after you 
well i have 350 agir and 310 haku prints
maybe you get older faster

do all the event ships give global stats just for collection?
I'd still prioritize seydlitz first if you don't have her already
i get that alot
Yes
they give global stats on acquire and lv 120
The only ships that don't give stats are muse, collab and lils.
i have no interest in collection nor money but fine ill get seydlitz
I have like 700 coobs, worth chasing the last elite for the boost?
Pretty sure neither of the elites give any notable stats
ty
instead you should give me half of ur cubes
some stats are more preferable than others
Both gacha purples are FP+1
Nice, but I don't think I'd jeopardise my cubes just for that 
But YMMV
good day chat will it be a 8 hour maint today
spending 700 cubes for +1 Cl and CA FP 
with 700 cubes you can afford to risk it a little I feel
Okay, noted. 8+2 i feel today
I'm pre sure I jeopardised my cubes for CV RLD before, but that was Hwah Jah so at least considerably less painful...
CV RLD is worth it considering it's the most inportant tech
me constantly stuck with 400 cubes
As long as it isn't 8+4 
Because then I'm dead
skill based game mode
Prayge
are kimo's game news reliable in any way
Can one truly mess up just reading what is written in the patch notes?
Yes
nope, would've recommended reading jp cn and en patch notes
considering that he took the announcement of Haku's 30 BP catchup as confirmation of her getting a Fate Sim, yes
but alas, expecting EN to read is 
Patch today?
4 new ships and one set of torps to mine
I didn't touch event at all lmao
reading bad more like im bad at reading
what are the stages for exp farming again? 12-1 and -3?
fhak
Is there a chart for best initial skills for each cat and if so where to find it
/cats Prob Rice's guide is your best bet (link at bottom), although you don't necessarily need to roll all the good skills initially to make the cat workable
MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE
What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.
How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!
How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.
What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).
What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.
Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.
Or indeed roll any good skills, if you're doggedly persistent/insane enough
Thanks
Do I switch anyone out for shinano
is this any good?
its good for both bb aux and cl gun
are blue D researches more time and coin efficient than purple Ds?
No one if she's not MLB
Ark Royal if she's MLB
if I get the same face but 2 type of Ds which research should I do?
the shorter one
okie
probably just the catapult on saratoga, enhance to +10, rest seems fine
but doesnt the longer one give more bps?
is it significant enough to warrant the longer time?
oh and quad mag torpedo
hmm okay
is this also worth farming on Iris of light and dark D3?
that gun is shit for all but 1 ship
and even then it's like why
Guys, I don't understand how can I earn more points for the border
like I sortie using the shipgirls but the thing won't go up
- Are they in the fleet that Fights the boss (Very important part)
- If they are, do they live? (This is also a very important part)
Yes they do all that 
are they mlb? Is it the right stage?
Have you done each of them on their respective stage?
Oh
I don't think I did that, thank you
reading is hard 
classic
wats command for +13 guide
maybe /plus13
can someone list all the new ships
but are they good
Well 3/4 probably give FP tech so they're good in my books
157x4 damage, 25.47s
Uhh ship need a while office wifi dying
Where do you even get the data for data mine
🪄
Or some such
z47 torps?
the game
So it's basically just a straight upgrade then to the usual guad mags?
what else would they be
just 4 ships 1 torp right
Should be
is there a way to unlock the fog for this part?
all up but un TL'ed
request recon
Knowing the devs many things
If you know the ectl lore then I’m not worried
where do u get taht
Order > request recon
Do we have the tech for these ships yet?
oh thx but is it a 1 time thing or i can use it on every map?

after you use it the next one costs 9 AP but gradually reduces back to 0 over time
oh ok thx
can finally play that stupid part wihout finding the path myself
how long does the timer reset?
30 mins
oh thats not bad
30 minutes
3rd and 4th stage have oil cap
oh this is cringe, 80% barrage
dogshit
4th is SP stage(?)
Altvir? Oof
Aug when?
Should be
Oh no 2 chance based barrages I hope this is salvageable with sheer power
It use same file as frostfall
Frostfall is TC1 righ?
I think let me check
My scripts doesn't support those so uhh drops when I'm free
new torps just like quadmag but higher damage?
do the new ships powercreep any of the best ships rn
op torps :god:
Stay tuned
tuned to what
how should i prio research highest season to lowest or something else
4 > 5 > 6
But in my opinion based on paper and speculation right now, I don't have high hopes (Yes, I have to clarify everything .)
i should go to the next as soon as i max the first season?
no powercreep unplayable game smh
yes starting at 4
k ty
So just more tech fodder got it
new ship any good?
are the three surface ships fp tech?
3rd stage drops
Submarine-only G7e Homing Torpedo T3 Design
T3 Triple 533mm Magnetic Torpedo Design
T3 Triple 283mm Main Gun (SK C/34) Design
T3 Fire-Control Radar Design
T3 Anti-Torpedo Bulge Design
barrage vids whenever EN predl up 
for frostfall are 4th stage repeatable?
if anyone need it
there is no reason to set focus to anything less than 4. you can develop whoever you feel like as long as you don't mind the permanent dock space loss
hmm they probably change screensaver to use device time
yeah they change to using os time instead of server time
hopefully i'm not wrong
Frostfall 4th stage is SP
Once per day
alright so only this matter
so basically farm stage 3
so same as frostfall exactly, no shop, have milstone
but the most important thing for this event is more pink haired girl 
freidrich carl was the best ship this event
so how did frostfall go
Are the new emojis tied to skin like Ognevoy
i'll check later if i feel like it
yes i think
BB HP+2 FP+1
SS EVA+2 TRP+1
DD AA+1 HP+1 FP+2
i like the dd fp tech and thats about it lol
can Odin use the new torps?
I mean, it still IS a surface torp, so I don't see why not probably?
She probably can
when maint gonna start?
are the milestone rewards right? frostfall didn't give nearly that much
in 3 hours 20 mins
ty
it's the only milestone added this patch
prob improvement after complaint last time 
JP twitter did release a graphic with Mod Quad Mag 
Correct me if I'm wrong
well more like an in game UI of the rewards
But isn't 140% mg eff on the higher end of SR BBs?
well the Big 7 retros have 145%
I mean they are retros to be fair
link pls
she honestley just looks like a worse Brunhilde
I mean, fwiw, Kear has 140% MG eff
prob like in the middle
The Richilleu class have 160% but in return they have like 2 MGM
Even seydlitz has 140% lol its not that uncommon
so milestone with fancier UI 
Owari has 140%
yup
BCs have higher main gun efficiency to make up for lower FP usually
Do they though
it's pretty standard for low fp bc
what's the 120 tech this batch
BB HP+2 FP+1
SS EVA+2 TRP+1
DD AA+1 HP+1 FP+2
Also bleh
The skills look crud
I'm a fucking fortune teller
She's more mid than I expected
unless her barrages are really nutty, I don't see any reason to use her over Brunhilde
Brunhilde is snail and requires autoloader for relevancy in BB boss fleets
prinz eugene muse gives research xp riht?
The tech couldn't even save them too....
Wait no that fp +2 is too good
+2 across 2 ships
it's both DD's +1 FP being added together
oh nvm then i thought it was +2 per. then again that would mean all 1936B and C hulls would have to give +2 FP too
history stuff. idek why i'm trying to apply it to a gacha game

is it worth the time to clear through all the opsi coordinate loggers every reset
or is the gain minimal from them
it's worth
is it just for the sr gear lab materials? Or is there actually a chance of getting ur prints and stuff
Fuck more stuff to level
There's chance for ur and sr prints
surely this c2 coordinate logger can get me UR prints right 
does Alvitr really have a 70% barrage proc 
real
70% barrage proc rate in 2024 
Doesn't seem that high with newer ship
i'm actually criticising it
unless there's something good when 30% hits
helena scan 
Maybe it's equivalent like enty proc 
Helena is Helena though mr turtle
helena has 0% proc when I use her
skill issue tbh, she obviously doesn’t love you
Xd
gotta oath her 
And buy l2d xd
I oathed 2 of her
Oath give higher proc trust
Will do that thanks 
another helena enjoyer inducted into the cult 

helena proc rate for me is lower than stated 
rarity above UR 
the heck are you people doing in gph
i can do 550k on wichita meta when enty gets lucky E and helena gets proc
well mainly its still BBs hitting big number but still enty does perform better than indep
Maybe try Indep with Spearfish?
hard 3 battles, oil cap 25 surface / 16 sub
SP 4 battles, oil cap 40/16
why spearfish?
no new music 
Rockets + some torpedoes
Alas, my +12 one still can't quite make up the difference yet 
the 5 EX bosses. First through fourth battles have mobs.
NAME Armor HP EVA LCK SPD HIT AVI FP TRP AA
理性思维·石膏喵 Medium 180,000 52 30 18 69 310 350 200 400
趣味玩乐·石膏喵 Medium 250,000 64 30 18 75 420 280 0 390
兴趣培养·石膏喵 Medium 500,000 44 30 18 71 0 300 200 460
健康活力·石膏喵 Medium 600,000 64 30 25 110 0 150 400 380
永葆童心·石膏喵 Medium 900,000 64 30 20 75 300 250 260 430```
No Skyraider or triple 406mm mk 7 oof 
Also so true, I have not crafted any spearfish myself either 
New quad mag is just higher-damage quad right?
we getting new quad mag? 
Could I finish the event in under 2 hours?
Huh, at first glance Alvitr seems pretty good for a gold
My target is only seydlitz and currently on D1
how many points off are you
how many event pts do you have
I have 2k points alr
D3 is a piece of cake ig, my ships around 110+
I saw what it was before your edit; you went from being 2k points away to 6k points away
But anyways yeah spam D3 and your double resource thingy
I pulled for lutzow and emden 
"High-Efficiency Combat Logistics Plan"
Is ambush counted as enemy ship defeated?
no
Farming simulator later
Are ships with preload help with the clearing speed?
70% barrage 
she still look like t1 ship to me
imagine looking anywhere but TEX 
nano bad then?


No heals
all the TEX CVs are tagged so
What is the diff between percy and unikai? Seems they only heal (didn't want to read skill description)
Percy has worse planes, 2 preloads, ~40s airstrike times, timed special airstrike compared to Uni
unikai does way more damage and isnt hampered by a 90% longer airstrike timer
difference is that percy healing and dmg falls off a cliff in prolonged fight
otherwise no difference
Percy goes from hero to zero in 5 seconds basically while Unikai has a better damage curve
But percy still TEX?
because she's no means bad
Is there a replacement for tge current one? or if there's one that easily farmed
Percy was the premium option before unikai so yes
likely cuz they want newbies to actually use healers instead of trusting in their ship's bulk
not that percy is terrible anyway unless yr doing w14/w15
other than getting the rainbow mk7 in gearlab? no
Iirc she prefers a barrage gun like FdG's gun or Nagato gun kai
barrage gun only beats shelling gun when you need higher rof

@plain saffron / @sweet delta , would either of you happen to have any info on the homing range and turning angle of the new torps? Are they the exact same as the normal gold quad mags, or is the flavour text promoting "improved acoustic guidance performance and power" a lie on the first count?
if you were mobbing then barrage gun would be better
if youre bossing then a shelling gun would pull ahead unless youre able to get off an extra salvo with the barrage gun (unlikely without high rld)
how do i unlock the last 3 memories of rore
repeat map
which
What are research series again? are the map available on war archives?
B3/D3
quad mag kai has improved tracking
it can find enemies in a range of 16 instead of 14, which will improve hit rate against nonmoving bosses
war archive not worth doing tor equips, read this for research
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
where did my reply go
Just don't pursue the FDG gun

No matter how you get it it's still just a really expensive marginal improvement over the Purple Twin 410mm
Is the 457mm considered as a barrage and shelling gun at the same time?
I'll add it in after lunch
it's a shelling gun on the surface, but can function as a barrage gun
Oh yeah, 457 is fast iirc
457 uvh 
1 DR print is 20 protocore not 100?
Yes
Any translations of the datamine regarding the new ships?
i have been misinfo’ed 
Don't know where the 100 came from
70% barrage proc rate 
Just put it through Google translate
the datamine in pins is translated
That will give you the gist of it
someone told me coin fdg, then get 3000 protocore
that's correct
Yes, by converting her 150 BPs from catchup
150 * 20 turns out to be 3000...
i asked them about using the research mission prints
that 3000 would come from converting the prints from setting fdg as catch-up after you hit fs5 with her
3000÷150=20
If i cancel a commission cost 1200 fuel, will i lost my fuel?
oh its the catchup… 
Is the rainbow thing reward in D3 stage event worth to get?
i thought they meant my 30 DR2 prints could convert to 3000 protocore
i was so hyped to get a free protocore UR gear…
the one from missions? it's just a furniture item, up to you if you want it
Thanks
can i expand my dorm even more in size, furni is too big for how little space there is
once you maxed the expansion for first floor, only thing you can do for more space is get second floor
oh thats sad then
Is the 2nd floor needed or no?
2nd floor recover morale but no xp
I always use my gems at dock space so, never had a chance to buy 2nd floor.
Is soul scamming ok to take as a refresh if I'm over 400 cubes and am trying to get the series done ASAP?
i use the 2nd floor so little that i kinda regret buying it
is 2nd floor really that important than docks
if you don't have 6 slot total from dorm it worth getting imho
unless you alrdy got a lot of first floor slot
So you just wouldn't take soul scamming regardless?
i would take 4th slot on first floor over 3rd slot and 2nd floor
my ships recover morale in 4hrs anyway
why though, that not enough slot for morale regen for one fleet
Which event parts should I 3* on?
The entire point of 2nd floor being recommended is getting to 6 slots which gives full fleet morale regen to mob 
but i put my first floor for tech ships
I just got this item for the first time ever in a rainbow gearbox from the cruise missions. Is it any good for anything?
Poverty AA
imho none, though iirc there is one stage that give a gold bulin so do that if you need it
Just put them in mob during event/farming for exp 
define poverty AA?
Yeah sorry. I checked it out before it got translated. Thank you 
Anyways yeah if I'm doing pr6 you still wouldn't take soul forming for any reason? Judging by ghost going ehh on question
i farm 12 sortie instead of 10, but oil gain is still at a fixed amount
better than purple AA guns but worse than other gold AA guns
Not good, only use when lacking bofors
so what is it like? Just a good placeholder until I get something better?
Yes
i still spend oil faster than i can regen it even without mob fleet in dorm
i wouldn't do cube researches at all aside from relevant rainbow research, especially since your cube count is below 2000
wrong reply 
Will have to check my situation with Bofor AAs.
That's your issue, that doesn't do anything to invalidate 2nd floor as a recommendation because I don't think many others have this issue
its not an issue people have of spending all their oil? 
i never ran out of oil before except during yt2 event
Oil isn't the bottleneck if you have time as a bottleneck already
This AA, the gold ver is general use @haughty dust
Well, this is my current situation with those weapons. If you think I should use it as a placeholder or not.
Which is why we joke you gain oil by touching grass
No, you're good
i thought everyone spent all their oil daily unless theres something coming up
Imo, no. U have better AA options (Roomba, Bofors, etc)
That's the ideal but please remember people don't always or even usually have enough time to do that
like this next event i saved 20k oil which ill probably burn through in 3 days during the weekend
I have no life and I still hard cap oil very very regularly
hardcap? doubt
Torva I actively do
I big slacc
i have never once even soft capped oil in my so far 5 months of playing 
nolife and slacc dont fit together
am i the true nolife, because i thought everyone does this 
I nolife but I slacc because I'm a MMO raider and AL is not my main game

i mean it doesnt matter if you nolife if you dont do anything in AL
thats just being misleading on purpose
I feel like we digressed from the original topic so 
You do remember ships get +20% xp when they're above 119 morale right? Which they can only get past with the dorm
We did, point being not everybody goes dry on oil and there's a reason why 2nd floor good
the event ends in 15 mins?
Anyways since it seemed to have gotten lost in the sauce for everyone except ghost asking again, would you take soul scamming for a pr you're doing if there's no other good research up and you're pity-safe
1 hour and 15
1hr 15 mins

give me a torp to compare to
oh yeah i remember that, i just thought the gain was minimal because 31 morale is 3 sorties out of 10 so its only 6% more xp
Cube research? Yes so long as it's not a 4 H one
It's 30m
compared to gold quad mag same angular
Yes because Cog chips
so only range is diff
Thanks cheeky
Well consider it like this after your first day of the week and you've burned through all the oil you get at the start you'll pretty much be doing no more than that for the remainder of the week
Alvitr
80% barrage: priority target, fast spear like Brunhilde's barrage.
400 dmg, scaling on 100% of FP, 100% coefficient,
1 BOMB with 100% chance to special burn, HE ammo, 140/110/110% armor, 40 diameter, 200±10 range, 30 velocity. barrage exposes by 10 units.
Special burn is 150 damage per second for 5 seconds, and every second, chooses a random other enemy to apply the same burn (non-recursive and non-stacking spread)
70% barrage:
no target, sweep forward and sweep back for 2 hits. The spear has a huge hitbox. By huge I mean 36x36 huge.
285 dmg, scaling on 100% of FP, 100% coefficient,
1 bullets of: bullet_79983 is a SHRAPNEL with HE ammo, 140/110/110% armor, 99 pierce, 120±0 range, 15 velocity. {"ignoreShield": true}. Each split into:
1 bullets of: bullet_79984 is a CANNON with HE ammo, 140/110/110% armor, 99 pierce, 120±0 range, 15 velocity.
imagine if on the sweep back, the spear hits a shield and immediately goes poof
the skill counter looks for the spear touching any enemy three times, can touch three different enemies or touch the same enemy twice while sweeping forward and back, can hit or can miss enemies. super easy to activate.
6% is below my change rate but i guess its good to have from the very start
hmmm question, Alsace or Fdg?
For what?
can i not just submit 20k till this gets completed?
my max gold is only at 45k
your max is 600k
mob fleet
you can go over 45k through coms and maps and stuff
It needs to be in one go and the soft cap isn't hard cap
you can get gold from everywhere else, just cant claim from merchant at 45k
oh thanks
2 barrages? 1 80% and the other 70? Or I'm reading this wrong?
Mobbing where
hmm it might be lower cause its 150 morale instead of 119 that i calced, but i digress
2nd floor is fine because i didnt consider that it would benefit for a long period of time especially from the start
Campaign W13-15 well might Push
read the ship skills
W13 just run 3 CVs, for W14 probably FDG
W15 I doubt you'll be tackling anytime soon
hmmm what is the faction of Independence? Might usw her in with Yorktown II
She's Eagle Union

for more dock space


