gameplay-help

[vagrant spoke]

Even on auto where other gold torps will miss more often?

[atomic abyss]

gold quint mags are bad because of the spread and the atrocious reload

people tend to grossly overestimate how much regular non mag torps miss

[frank pulsar]

i tested before purple triple mag against non mag yellow quad and quint, result was the output is arnd the same
if you dont have any yellow torp just use purple triple mag torp

[atomic abyss]

just don't use purple mag quads or puple mag quints or gold mag quints...

the tldr is, t3 or bust

[vagrant spoke]

I sees

[atomic abyss]

makes sense

the universal quints tend to have around 2-3/5 torp hit rate on auto

[steady beacon]

Tested in what context?

[atomic abyss]

ofc, the enemy density plays a huge role in how effective any torps are on auto

even mags will have hard time hitting relevant stuff if the enemies are widely spaced/launched from further back

[cobalt rapids]

@steady beacon

[atomic abyss]

the mag only "mags" so far after all

[steady beacon]

[light trail]

my dumb joke was that if it's small it'll be done quickly then i sleep bc no event to farm

[vagrant spoke]

Does the extra torpedo damage weak point for opsi bosses apply to torpedo planes?

[steady beacon]

Weak point thing vs abyssals doesn't actually work

[vagrant spoke]

Wait what

[atomic abyss]

the biggest scam in AL

[vagrant spoke]

Not the placebo effect, it can’t be

[steady beacon]

In any event, except in VERY rare cases like Mogador, whenever something refers to "torpedoes" or "torpedo-based damage", it excludes aerial torpedoes

[tranquil saffron]

Who can I use in place of indomitable for support CV fleet?
I've got implacable and illustrious

[vagrant spoke]

Oh yea I think I heard some something about mogador burn mechanic being bugged as in if another ship is on fire will effect mogador. Is that still true?

[frank pulsar]

theres no code implementing the weakness, so if you see the weakness in game it doesnt actually mean anything

[steady beacon]

The classic trick math question, "solve this problem using 'such-and-such' method", while the teacher is cackling in the back because 'such-and-such' method doesn't actually work

[clever sun]

What should i choose? Diego, hood, enter, illu

[cobalt rapids]

enty > hood > diego

depending who ure missing

[elfin hollow]

what is Me-155 can do?

[clever sun]

I already had mlb hood, diego, enter

[cobalt rapids]

messerschmitt? it can sit in depot

[elfin hollow]

I'm using that on Unicorn so she doesn't steal MVP

[clever sun]

How can Unicorn steal mvp?

[cobalt rapids]

preload

[clever sun]

What is preload?

[left cedar]

ME155 in depot seens waste of space ... just scrap it

[cobalt rapids]

starting battle with charge weapon loaded

[elfin hollow]

well I'm grinding pr right now and my Vanguard is weak

[whole crypt]

ch15 support cope

[clever sun]

How to grind pr

[left cedar]

purple wulf >>> Gold Me155

[whole crypt]

and depot space is not an issue honestly, just equip shit off

[cobalt rapids]

can confirm at 800 depot its not an issue

[left cedar]

me with the original 300 and almost all ships in my dock geared with at least good gears

[whole crypt]

most of my lv120 fodder have no gear so

[little plinth]

what does the heart counter correspond to? is it like an extension of affinity?

[whole crypt]

the number of players on your server that hit the heart button in ship details/comments

[left cedar]

but still i have some gears around depot, mostly since i like to just click on my pre made builds for my favorite ships and swap instantly insteed of change manually each one, and i like my things organized enough to quickly identify wut i wanna/need

[steady beacon]

Ngl, my real problem lies in unique gears
Esp since a fair number of unique gears clash on ships between PvE and PvP

Ofc, the real solution, as the PvPers tell me, is to use PvP equipment for PvE

[cobalt rapids]

the secret is to use ur pvp loadouts in pve

[whole crypt]

I just have like 200 slots of junk lying around

I just keep my PvP ships out of PvE as much as possible

[left cedar]

mostly of unique shits i have on DDs that i refuse to lvl and are KMS or SN, IJN and RN i retire them ... so i dont have

kinda the gears i have lying around or i'm too lazy to go gearing a class that still needs it, like Rudders for cruisers, or quad mags for who need ...

[clever sun]

Should i pick enter or hood or diego or illutrious? I has already had mlb diego, enter, hood but no illu

Should i pick illu for collection or diego for her full retrofit?

[undone plover]

Get lusty
U can just use a bulin for sandy retrofit

[clever sun]

I afraid ill run out of gold bullin for other ships in the future

[worldly pewter]

although sandy got stronger in the last update i don't think it is worth the cores unless ch15 imo

[keen sable]

It's all irrelevant in the long run. You seem to understand the tradeoffs, just pick one

[left cedar]

Sandy is one of the mostly expensive retrofits in game ... also she can be replaced easily by cheaper ships for begginers
she only shinys for W15 where her AA and DPS combines perfectly with the map needs

[keen sable]

Maybe I should point out you will also receive a permanent item detailing your life choice

[clever sun]

What is it?

[wind hazel]

just take illustrious

[clever sun]

What can the storage system in mail do?

[wind hazel]

it stores your oil and coin

[cobalt rapids]

store oil and coins from mail

[clever sun]

Oh thanks

I almost fully retrofitted diego in the past, i think i cant go backward now

[opal bone]

Should i do this?

[wind hazel]

up to you

[wary timber]

Also.any tips for Scharnhorst META?

[livid badger]

does the emden event end tomorrow on reset or at the end of the day?

[left cedar]

if u like it, just do it

Oath dont really change much in point to by a huge turnoer
some times the can hurt ur tryhard, some times they help if u are a extreme tryhard

[opal bone]

Okay i think it might be better to use it when my new jersey is usable

[worldly pewter]

oath before retro

[wind hazel]

event ends <t:1719471600:f>

[rose cosmos]

Any of these worth getting?

[cobalt rapids]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[left cedar]

pog chips, but not on ur situation

[opal bone]

I havent done it

[livid badger]

phew tyty

[fresh tangle]

3 of each shell then depending on your dock (I’m told) Independence

[undone plover]

Wait do we actually? Like the invitation thingies? Where is my enty item then

[cobalt rapids]

not for rookies

[undone plover]

Smh got me excited for nothing

[left cedar]

and i'm here thinkin where my have gone ... cuz idr who and where this item are

[worldly pewter]

i was just memeing the priority that is it
because oath costs that ring that mostly costs 600 gems even though the beginner one is free
if u are stuck because of the missions then pick whatever ship u like and use it on her

[opal bone]

Nah im sweeping through story right now i just wanted opinions

[left cedar]

imo, if u like the ship, no other ships that u like more than that one do it, if u are concerned about performance, that dosnt change much
also, if u like them no need to care about rarity
well, that said, if u are a F2P need to note that rings are really rare ...

[viscid swift]

run the hedghog on a vanguard beacuse you'll need to deal with subs, otherwise standard medium armor set ups

[wary timber]

Just one vanguard ship with ASW ? Or do u recommend more

[left cedar]

more like, need to be hedge specifically

[wary timber]

Yea I realised that they target my main fleet rather than my vanguards

[viscid swift]

just hedgehog on a light cruiser is enough

[reef flume]

I have a question even tho it might sound dumb:

Yk the combat data packs? Those that can be used to give 10K exp to a PR/DR Ship? Well, my question is: if I have combact data packs series 3, can I use them on a series 2 ship like for the BP that if they (for example) serie 5 I can convert them into the previous pr series?

[wary timber]

Hm

[eternal basalt]

No, but convert them anyways

[tame jungle]

just a heads up it's recommended to just grind the xp required instead of wasting cdc packs

[viscid swift]

no

[tame jungle]

you can use the protocore they convert into for getting good gear

[reef flume]

Alr

[left cedar]

no, u cant, they have a specific use to that PR
and do that is a huge waste since XP its the easiest resource in the game, and protocore for other hand for begginers and mid players are really rare

[reef flume]

Alr thx for answering

[opal bone]

Who should be my next retrofit

[wary timber]

Btw if I'm going against Scharnhorst or Gneisnau META should I use ships with the Graf Spee gun or just normal AP guns

[tame jungle]

just retro unicorn portland and z23 and ur fine

unicorn prio bc she carries

[undone plover]

Saratoga/nelson/indep if u have em
Nelson maybe highest prio for eventual 2nd fleet BB

[left cedar]

imo
Uni > Port > Helena > Initial DD ...

[undone plover]

After the 3 nube mentioned

[opal bone]

Yeah i figured just wanted to make sure

[tame jungle]

helena retro isn't in the newbie missions iirc so i'd do her last if at all, since most of her strength seems to be in triple 457 comps (which this person will not be running yet LOL)

[left cedar]

u dont need do enterely initial DD to complete the rookie, also, they can be easily replaced in mid game if u wanna/have resources for, and Helena it will be for the entire game, but i'm alot impartial here, since i dont like loli ships

[cobalt rapids]

wdym
sg just changes first scan to 16s not all scans

[tame jungle]

really now, i swear someone said the opposite to me when i asked

[left cedar]

16 > 20 > 20 > 20 ...

[cobalt rapids]

that some1 is big baka then

[tame jungle]

maybe i am also big baka then...

[opal bone]

Okay i guess i Will get to that later for now the focus is unicorn👍

[minor notch]

Guys, what should i do with my lvl 120 ships? Should i just retire them or use it for enhance?

[left cedar]

the wut ?!

[eternal basalt]

125 the good ones?

[tame jungle]

you use the 120s in hard content

or 125 if required

[minor notch]

Nah the rare and elite one, level them up for the tech

[left cedar]

1: keep them in dock
2: if u trully dont wanna them, just the stats, u can retire, but if they are from event, them u need to w8 for rerun or a eventual WA to get them again ...

[eternal basalt]

3: And redo the whole 120 stick if retro is added or otherwise want them again

[whole crypt]

Just buy more dock space™️

[minor notch]

Do i go with option 2? Since i really struggle with the dock space

Broo i expand it until 434 (with the guild also though) but still not enough

[whole crypt]

if you care about collection are there any unleveled ones you have lying around?

[left cedar]

well, have something like 700 in game ... so yeah ... not enough

[whole crypt]

if not then whatever

As of Tuesday, 6/25/2024, there is a total of 581 regular ships, 96 of which can be retrofitted. There are 32 research ships, 65 collab. ships, and 35 META ships. Together, these make up a total of 713 obtainable ships in the game.
less any collab ships you don't have

[left cedar]

u dont wanna me to remeber exactly how much ... right ?

[minor notch]

I already retired all the common one, and only have 36 for the rare ones, but idk which elite ships should i retire

[undone plover]

The easily re-obtainable ones
Check guild ship and map drops on wiki

[minor notch]

Like its getting annoying when the auto search canceled cause of the dock full

[left cedar]

start from one u can drop again in campaign them proceed to one u can drop on WA them one u can build and for last the ones u drop/build in events

[minor notch]

Good idea thanks

[left cedar]

that said, some rares are really rare, some can only be buy from guild shops and they are expensive as fuck ...

[eternal basalt]

Thsnk god those 35 don't take space no more... PR next pls

[left cedar]

isnt more PR ships than META ... at least for now

[minor notch]

Meh i dont even buy from the guild shop

[left cedar]

w8, no, more META than PR ... but this probally it will change by 1 in july

[cobalt rapids]

all those goldplates

[whole crypt]

wasting gold plates and books smh

[left cedar]

20 per week ...
iirc guildshop is a thing for ... 2y ?

[eternal basalt]

Gold parts man, 10 x2 a week

[left cedar]

i dont wanna make the accounts for ... but ... its alot, for sure

[eternal basalt]

20 per week

[left cedar]

yeah, my bad, 10 per cicle, 20 week

[minor notch]

I always forget about it and now i barely remember when was the last time i visited guild shop

[left cedar]

dammm ... its alot, 5~ x 12 x 20

btw, this is 1y ...

[agile sky]

How long does it take for ships to recover their "energy"? I got the notice that a fleet is tired and will lower affinity so i went to bed for 5 hrs. I come back and send them to fight amd theyre immediately tired after like 2 mob battle?

[minor notch]

Aight will buy it from now (if remember though)

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity#Morale

sometimes morale doesn't update correctly, relog the game/restart the client

[elfin hollow]

what's the best way to grind more coins

[whole crypt]

what chapter are you at for campaign

[elfin hollow]

currently 5-1

trying to push to chapter 9

[whole crypt]

what are your ship levels

[elfin hollow]

averaging around 70

[whole crypt]

there's no good way to grind coin without oil cap, if your ships can make it to D1 in event then that

70 is a bit rough

[opal bone]

What is this?

[cobalt rapids]

Project Identity - Raise TB simulator

[eternal basalt]

#1204845559790440488

[whole crypt]

Princess Maker

[meager gyro]

who gets this?

[opal bone]

Does this tb thing give anything?

[meager gyro]

nj has one already

[eternal basalt]

No one since STAAG

[meager gyro]

?

[normal crane]

Is Shinano good for boss or mobbing fleet?

[sage sluice]

Its only used as transition on BB's until you have more STAAG's

[chilly crow]

How long is it going to take for Emden to be added to the standard pool?

[atomic abyss]

It'll be a while
1-2 years

[hushed aurora]

When does the event end tomorrow?

[whole crypt]

any other BBs you're using, I don't think you have any better AA guns on them

[eternal basalt]

Yes

[whole crypt]

if you're still one-fleeting without another BB then put it on Unicorn

[hushed aurora]

Yeah but what time?

[eternal basalt]

Precisely at reset, per usual

[atomic abyss]

Ends with daily reset on Thursday

So tomorrow is your last day to grind yes

[hushed aurora]

Ty

Is it worth it to 3 star all stages? Or just do the ssr bullie on d2?

and with 31k I guess I wont be reaching 40k? I farmed every day with monthly card lol

[whole crypt]

I assume you mean trade license not sure what that has to do with anything unless you're out of oil
if you're doing SP and the daily bonus runs 40k shouldn't be too far off

[hushed aurora]

I mean this

And for today I only have 4k oil left so it kinda looks rough

[forest palm]

you should at least clear C + D, or A + B the missions are profitable overall

[whole crypt]

have you already claimed weekly pack and weekly missions

[hushed aurora]

yes

[eternal basalt]

If you do A+B 3 star them and forget about it on C+D

Every event really

[whole crypt]

well 3-starring B/D3 is just a retrofit print so it's mostly just for completion's sake

[eternal basalt]

Gold T3 are still rare for new players though

[glacial heath]

is this the last day with the event ?

[eternal basalt]

Wednesday

[broken monolith]

should I waste my cubes on this this is my first day on the game.. I meant 2nd day but I only did one mission then stopped playing do yeah oil was not spent

[hollow gust]

You will do better saving

[wary timber]

So is the Monarch gun good on any BB at all lmao. I can build one thanks to the BPs dropping from my research

[viscid swift]

you're not doing PR1 research focus are you?
anyway no

[wary timber]

I'm focusing on a completely different set

[wispy pendant]

no, you want 400 cubes for URs, probably better to just build one a day and use map dropped ships until you build up cubes

[whole crypt]

monarch gun prints shouldn't drop unless you did a PR1 research, what is your focus set to

[wary timber]

Agir

[whole crypt]

that's catchup

[broken monolith]

how do you level up ships? 😅

[viscid swift]

number in the bottom right is research focus

[whole crypt]

using them in battle and putting them in dorm

[undone plover]

Read this guide https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[whole crypt]

you've probably just been doing PR1 research with Agir catchup

[wary timber]

It's set to PR4. But I think maybe a PR1 research slipped in

[viscid swift]

impossible

[whole crypt]

PR1 researches do not spawn if you have focus set to anything besides PR1

[viscid swift]

PR1 researches don't show up unless you have no focus or are on PR1 focus

[left cedar]

PR1, PR2 and PR3 dosnt show up, exceptions only if u set one as focused

[whole crypt]

they can show up if you have no focus set too

[undone plover]

What do you have on this page? The first one at the top

[wary timber]

It's set to PR4 with an Agir catchup . So it could have been a Reppu BP drop that I didn't notice.

[whole crypt]

this is specifically monarch gun though

monarch gun prints literally do not drop from any research outside of PR1

[wary timber]

But reppu parts can drop outside right

[wispy pendant]

When would monarch gun be advantageous?

[left cedar]

never ?
it already a waste once only Mk6 exist
now Mk7 is craftable ...

[wispy pendant]

k, never, good. I never built one

[undone plover]

If u have focus on PR/DR4 it means when u select new research 3 out of 5 options will be series 4
2 options could be anything but not pr1-3 so can be 4 or 5 or 6

[undone plover]

Did u check this page? Make sure first row says 4 for u

[whole crypt]

reppuu can drop, it's not part of the prototype pool

[wary timber]

Oh yea its the Reppu parts that dropped. Derp

[keen sable]

Several ways but using them works. All other ways are generally more passive.

[earnest socket]

can i instant clear the event stages that i have 100%d? or do I have to watch the auto battles

[undone plover]

U mean sweep? No that is not a thing in AL

[earnest socket]

ahh I see. Thanks!

[keen sable]

HELP is pretty instant for the investment.

[whole crypt]

you'd probably be better off explaining what HELP does than confuddling with sweep clears

[steady beacon]

Fun/awful fact: I attempted to calculate whether there is any advantage using Monarch gun on Alsace in order to force her in front of Bismarck for the debuff...
Turns out you might as well get the order wrong with the Mk 7, and by a wide margin

[wispy pendant]

I appreciate your work and sacrifice

[broken monolith]

any little enterprise server guild willing to adopt a total noob? 😅

[forest palm]

#1246721562741178410

[wispy pendant]

if you read and follow the newbie guide, you'll be less noob than most

[steady beacon]

There are plenty of non-hardcore guilds that don't discriminate anyway
As long as you keep activity up, they're usually fine with it

[whole crypt]

3 proc so it doesn't really say much...

[steady beacon]

[whole crypt]

lemme hit up my last 2 assists

besides needing 2 procs I like this one so far

it's not like the 1 proc comps always got off on 1 proc

[steady beacon]

Borderline impossible if anything

Actually, did I ask about the Harbin version...

[plain saffron]

Which fleet was this

[steady beacon]

I've now forgotten

[plain saffron]

I was too distracted didn't have time to test anything

[whole crypt]

3 for 3 today, but I did all get at least 2 procs

[steady beacon]

Supposedly the CV 3-strike comp can get by with one SG, but so far I've not been able to pull it off (missing some +13s though)

[whole crypt]

the harbin comp on NGA claims 1 scan is enough but it never was

[steady beacon]

Could you preserve the kill with 2 scans?

[whole crypt]

and I don't think it really changes whether you pick harbin or ply for that job

[plain saffron]

Also oath and max rld?

[steady beacon]

Yep

[whole crypt]

first try was 3 scans
2nd try was 2 scans with first 2
3rd try I missed whether first scan went off but the resulting damage was slightly less than last 2 runs, finished with 2nd and 3rd scans

[thorny basalt]

I'm using that same lineup except with Harbin instead of Plymouth in offtank

[whole crypt]

I have a feeling this is fairly consistent for 36%, vanguards were generally in good shape at the kill with around 12s left

[thorny basalt]

I missed a one shot by less than a bar just now, feels bad

[whole crypt]

unless your vanguards are dying early Harbin shouldn't really be helping, and Plymouth buff for Kearsarge also counts

[hollow gust]

My ply main tanks survives really well , the oaths actually help I guess

[whole crypt]

like the only selling point of using Harbin versions is smoke cope

[thorny basalt]

Whenever I haven't had harbin they have a tendency to get nuked. Harbin has been letting them survive to at least get 3 shots

[steady beacon]

Ye it genuinely feels that way tbh lol
Ply dying early in main tank happens very rarely for me

[hollow gust]

I have been counting the success rate between ply and Harbin and my ply does much better. People cope way too much

[whole crypt]

I'm curious how much oathing really helps for vanguard survivability for cases like these becasue for vanguard I generally only oath for waifu

[hollow gust]

Cough cough the offtank is tankiest in w15

[steady beacon]

Just to check, you really use +13 Drake gun for Agir in this comp?

[calm rose]

idk what yall feeding your ply but my ply isn't tanking very well in main tank slot

[steady beacon]

Jesus Christ

[whole crypt]

where else do you even use a +13 drake gun nowadays

[thorny basalt]

I don't have a +13 drake gun but maybe I should give her one anyway. I just threw the HE CB gun on mine

[steady beacon]

Well, I don't even have a +13 Drake gun
So I will continue coping with my Alaska gun lol

[hollow gust]

Also why agir ? Isn't this meta damage very eff against heavy armor?

[atomic abyss]

nope

[steady beacon]

Nah, not at all

[atomic abyss]

same mods against heavy and med

it's more so agir or VH won't tank any better

[whole crypt]

nga says slow cope and probably just for tanking, the comp also uses plate so additional reduction

[calm rose]

did yall test this comp out?

[whole crypt]

no idea if an evasion aux will do better

[atomic abyss]

that comp probably won't do very well

i myself am using BB comps
and i can tell you the amount of variation is

[steady beacon]

I've seen tries of that comp with lesser equipment, it is somewhat shaky

[whole crypt]

well bottom line you would rather lose damage than lose Agir's dmgred for HE dmg

[steady beacon]

Correct

[calm rose]

i've tried using 2x +13 and 1x +10 mk7. idk if its dumb luck but somehow im getting better rate of success than the kear/cv fleet with ply main tanking

[whole crypt]

but hey I have a +13 drake gun doing nothing in depot so why not

I'll stick with this for tomorrow and see how it goes, but this one is growing on me better than the previous comps did
mainly because the top one that nga claims is 1 scan can't 1 scan

[steady beacon]

CN magic numbers as always 🪄
Well, I want to see if Nagami can pull it off, but all my attempts so far suggest the CV 3-strike with 1 scan is a pipe dream

Does NGA claim the Alsace version is one-scan-possible?

[whole crypt]

just like when they claimed "70% one shots" or something with Rodney

no, only CV comp

[steady beacon]

OK, at least that's honest

[whole crypt]

it doesn't say guaranteed 1 scan is enough, but as far as I can tell your chances of 1 scan are extremely low

all the other "recommended" comps are 2scan

[steady beacon]

Ye
My best 1-scan try with that comp still is far enough away that I just find 1-scan terribly hard to wrap my head around
But again, maybe they have magic we don't

[hard mesa]

cv with implac?

[steady beacon]

Ye

[whole crypt]

you're probably looking at some lucky crits with scan just meeting that 1 scan threshold, may also be affected by actual vanguard output since you lose a lot of damage when chained

[steady beacon]

More than likely

[agile berry]

I haven’t started the game yet but I wanted to check its discord.
is there a difference between the servers? Avrora, sandy etc…

[whole crypt]

3 strike mixed comp probably feels the most reliable at this point, just how you dice the members

[whole crypt]

functionally all servers are the same, the event schedules and stuff are same across the board

[atomic abyss]

yep

[wispy pendant]

newest server is little enty, probably a good choice

[atomic abyss]

you can't crossplay between servers or anything
and there are different shop rotations
but that's about it

[soft raft]

only main diff is how many tryhards are there to speedrun the raid boss

[agile berry]

oh so there aren’t servers for each zone, like one for asia, one for europe

[viscid swift]

there are

[whole crypt]

even little enty is several years old, there's no real advantage being there besides coping for PvP to be less competitive

[soft raft]

there are sepreate regions and each region has a host of their own servers

[wispy pendant]

pick english server if you don't know how to read japanese, please

[undone plover]

Lil enty is 1 year and 3 months old at this point

[wispy pendant]

that's wild

[whole crypt]

let's be clear here
different regions are different clients altogether
if you're looking at EN they're all EN regardless where you play from

[undone plover]

Closer to 4 months

[steady beacon]

Also affects how hard you might find PvP
But, granted, there is only ONE hard server

[agile berry]

oh alright, so when I begin the game I’ll have to choose one of these servers and the most recommended one is little enty cause it’s the newest one?

[keen sable]

Avrora best, lexy horrid, sandy pretty bad

[whole crypt]

there's really no real advantage to starting on little enterprise, just pick the one you want to start on

[soft raft]

doesnt really matter which one you pick
unless you have freinds who play this game and want to freind them in-game

[keen sable]

This month...

[whole crypt]

for clarity's sake there's no such thing as a Japanese server, just a Japanese client that you can only sideload if you don't access through a Japanese play store or app store account

it really doesn't affect most people who just get the game from their native app stores

[agile berry]

what about this month?

[keen sable]

^

[mellow hornet]

Which ship is better an Shan or chang chung

[keen sable]

If you want enty pick avrora...

[whole crypt]

depends™️

[left cedar]

oooooooooooi, chotto
Lexy is the best, okay ?

[steady beacon]

[atomic abyss]

[keen sable]

gotta love CA/CA

[soft raft]

An Shan if she's by herself
Chang Chun if you're running a majority North Parliment and/or Empery fleet since she's the closest thing to a faction buffer for those two factions

[steady beacon]

How did this turn into server war

[atomic abyss]

dear lord...

[wispy pendant]

what am I seeing when people post screen shots of what looks like japanese or chinese characters? Is that something they can change, or are they stuck with it based on the server they joined?

[atomic abyss]

that is JP/CN client

so an entirely diff app

[wispy pendant]

what's the difference between jp client and a server... can someone join little enty on the jp/cn client?

[atomic abyss]

you cannot

[mellow hornet]

Are the missile destroyers mob or boss and are they better than other torp ships like unzen, shimikaze, or yudachi

[whole crypt]

the different regions' servers are completely disconnected

[wispy pendant]

okay, so the server options are tied to the app

[atomic abyss]

JP client has their own servers
CN client has their own servers

[undone plover]

Server is subdivision of client

[hard mesa]

[whole crypt]

you will never play on a Japanese server with EN, and me on JP will never interact with an EN server

[keen sable]

You can't even use cn client as murican or something easily?

[soft raft]

they're better than a majority of regular DDs and compete with the top DDs, but overall most people use them in Mob

[wispy pendant]

anyways, same suggestion, don't use the CN or JP client if you don't know how to read those languages, please

[whole crypt]

CN is a bit harder to get I think, never really checked it out too much

[atomic abyss]

CN client needs a govt ID

[plain saffron]

Jp client use jp server
En client use en server

[whole crypt]

well you need an ID that's for sure

the process is a bit messy

I never bothered to get to it since I don't see the point of playing on CN

[agile berry]

oh I wished I knew how to read chinese.
although I am chinese

[atomic abyss]

hmm
how did sub summons work on opsi again?

[whole crypt]

auto summon or what

[atomic abyss]

sorry, what happens when you "request submarin support"

[whole crypt]

you get your sub fleet usable for up to 6 fights on that zone

[cobalt rapids]

u summon subs on that zone

[whole crypt]

it resets if you leave zone

[atomic abyss]

[whole crypt]

for zones that actually have more than 6 fights you can summon again after all 6 uses are expended

which is also why my C5-6 hiddens and strongholds usually take 2-3 hours

[keen sable]

Heals them too

[whole crypt]

one day people will understand the struggles of clvl grind

[keen sable]

Have to be careful pressing auto on clean zones

[whole crypt]

I never auto C5-6 hiddens and strongholds so I'm fine there

if you have an active sub fleet it does notify you the subs are reset if you leave, and it only resets if you actually enter another zone

[keen sable]

I meant more like I cleared a zone without subs disconnected and when rejoin press auto out of habit

[cobalt rapids]

as some1 who cares about clvl for i pref to keep my sanity but i respect ur dedication

[whole crypt]

the irony is I actually refuse to buy oil

[rich valve]

what are yall using for wichita fight, my vanguard are getting one shot

[loud rover]

I know Plymouth and Brest good ships from season 5, any PRs worth collecting prints for?

[whole crypt]

Harbin

[viscid swift]

Harbin maybe, Chkalov and Ruppchect don't see much use

[soft raft]

Harbin
Chkalov maybe
And Prinz is decent but because PR BB syndrome

[static harbor]

If both using Mog Gun, does Sandy Kai now outdamage Mogador? Or is it vs. types of armor

[soft raft]

SandyKai woulnt really want mog gun in the first place

[whole crypt]

https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=40597727
if you can't make anything that resembles those fleets then glhf and cope with assists/repeats

[static harbor]

Oh the DD gun from opsi stuff then

[whole crypt]

I've just never really needed to buy oil so far, I did go quite far into my reserves the last few months though so just maybe I might have to buy if I tryhard PR7

[static harbor]

Faster shoot speed

[cobalt rapids]

i mean its def not needed

[soft raft]

yeah the rainbow duck gun would be better for her cuz faster firerate while not losing too much raw damage

[whole crypt]

I have bought oil in some years past but not since 3-4 years ago

pretty sure not since oil cap at least

[cobalt rapids]

i grind alot so even with refills, event packs and 0 mail im below cap

[static harbor]

So Sandy does more since her new thing ignores armor?

[viscid swift]

well she's essentially got MGM+3 now

[whole crypt]

I could grind more and I'll probably need to start buying oil or at least licnese if I do, but so far cruise has been holding up and AL is just a pasttime when I'm not ranking for mltd

the biggest oil spend is usually just PR each year

[static harbor]

Fuhg, I JUST finished Mog awhile ago, now Sandy gets a augment and she shoots up the list

[atomic abyss]

sandy wants the twin 100 regardless

[viscid swift]

which is in 2 weeks roughly

[static harbor]

Aight

[whole crypt]

I saw that but not sure if that's actually PR7 though

still have 43k in storage, should be fine, though frostfall format as far as I can remember wasn't nice on oil eff

[static harbor]

Agir still doesn't have a Fate Sim?

[whole crypt]

nope and probably won't for another good while

[atomic abyss]

she doesn't, and she's still really good anyways

[static harbor]

Huh, weird how Ryuu got hers and not Agir

[whole crypt]

DR FS was never consistent anyway

[atomic abyss]

i mean fdg got hers after drake no?

[static harbor]

Oh yeah, forgot about that

[atomic abyss]

for me i just take it as tho the more OP DRs get their FS later

[whole crypt]

even when they added it for FdG it didn't really feel like she needed it, it felt more like just to get it out of the way alongside pushing DR2 to coin

[sweet delta]

I know why 113 Sandy is shit now

[viscid swift]

it's a bit cryptic yes but well what else could it be, new ships without an event

it is also that time

[whole crypt]

they have indeed added ships without an event before, but yeh

[sweet delta]

If you take a look at a recording, her barrage on the second main gun fire has only one star in it

[toxic tartan]

Idk if this considered gameplay help but how do I change the time on my azur lanes idle screen

[viscid swift]

you can't

[atomic abyss]

it follows the server time

[whole crypt]

move to the server's timezone

[cobalt rapids]

so shes loses 1 mgm every other shot ?

[wild whale]

more of a philosophical question than gameplay so maybe not best here;
What are the drawbacks on them letting us turn in duplicate URs for UR Bulins?

[whole crypt]

#game-feedback

[keen sable]

My oil mail storage is full

[viscid swift]

also someone remind me how the Frostall maps worked exactly? Because I think that's making a return with this upcoming event

[whole crypt]

something like easy 1 fight, normal 2 fights, hard 3 and so on, and you had to set a number of fleets to get full bonus

[sweet delta]

Same happens often with 100 kai

[viscid swift]

Special Battles

1. Tap "Special Battle" at Urayama Academy to go to the Special Battle screen, where you can select the stage you want to deploy on by tapping the stage icon.

You can challenge the 2nd stage by forming a special fleet. Also, when you clear the low difficulty stage of the special stage, the high difficulty stage will be unlocked.

3 There are five special stages in total: the Administration Building (easy), the Classroom Building (normal), the Arts Building (difficult), the Playground (SP), and the Forest Behind the Mountain (EX).

Some stages consist of several consecutive battles, and the number of battles in a stage can increase from 1 to 5 depending on the difficulty level.

4 When deploying, you can organize and deploy fleets for the number of battles. The number of fleets you can deploy can be switched between "Solo Deployment" and "Cooperative Deployment" on the deployment preparation screen.

- In a solo sortie, a single fleet will fight all battles in the stage in succession (the fleet's durability and other stats will be fully restored before each battle).

In cooperative sorties, each party will organize and dispatch fleets according to the stage's battles, and battles will take place with their own fleets.

5. If you sortie to a special stage and win all battles, you will win the stage and receive a "Colorful Scribble". If you sortie with multiple fleets (cooperative sortie), you can receive additional rewards.

6 Easy, normal and difficult stages can be challenged unlimitedly by consuming fuel. SP stages can only be cleared once a day, and EX stages can be sortied unlimitedly, but you cannot obtain "Colorful Scribbles".

7. The "Fuel Consumption Limit" and "Continuous Auto-Deployment" features can be applied to some stages.

sound like that?

[whole crypt]

Some stages consist of several consecutive battles, and the number of battles in a stage can increase from 1 to 5 depending on the difficulty level.

you can solo deploy the harder stages with a good fleet assuming oil cap but it's less points than coop

5. If you sortie to a special stage and win all battles, you will win the stage and receive a "Colorful Scribble"
   this one is probably trophy furniture and unlike frostfall needs to be all battles... IIRC you only needed to beat 1 out of 5 last SP? EX? to qualify

[viscid swift]

for frostfall yeah

[soft raft]

Yup it's a Frostfall format

[eternal basalt]

Finally, again Arrays for EX

[whole crypt]

it's frostfall + rpg

I don't need arrays I need more chips

[rich valve]

is Sirius good?

[whole crypt]

for buffing CV fleets yes

[digital cloud]

Is there a guide for which stages to grind equipment for?

[rich valve]

bruh I thought she was below average so I never raised her 💀

[atomic abyss]

you don't grind gear on maps

[whole crypt]

you don't grind stages for equipment

[inland shoal]

But how?

[cobalt rapids]

so what happens
is it the mgm missing due to weapon queue stalling or ?

[whole crypt]

is this another one of those "ship was low on tier list" things

[digital cloud]

DM me

[rich valve]

yeah lmao, thought Kazagumo is better at it

[atomic abyss]

all the best gear is from events, operation siren or research

[eternal basalt]

Don't grind gear on maps.

Unique equip on D3 maps say whhhaaaat?

[sweet delta]

I'll look tonight if I remember

#bug-reports for video

[soft raft]

This is one of the main reasons why you dont treat ECTl as the bible
It doesnt take into consideration anything outside of Campaign

[whole crypt]

unique gear drops is a different thing
you'll probably hear about it if there's something worth grinding anyway but you generally don't grind for gear from perm stages

[wispy pendant]

I heard someone say we have new mag torps coming... can someone point me to what we know about the new event already?

[inland shoal]

Ig if the weapon has a queue defined it could make sense

[whole crypt]

Kazagumo's and Sirius's buffs are not the same skill, so they actually "stack" by adding different multipliers

[sweet delta]

If this bug would be fixed, then sandy would have Plymouth level DPS as I said on the datamine day, and 113 would be competitive with 100 kai. But as it stands, mog gun is competitive with 100 kai currently because the barrage is broken

[whole crypt]

CN notes probably listed shop gear again let me take a look

[sweet delta]

It's a barrage singlefire

[soft raft]

All we know so far is that it's the same format as Frostfall
Dunno where you heard about new mag torps tho

[viscid swift]

no it's just the standard quad mags

actually no

[sweet delta]

[viscid swift]

they are new ones, "moddified"

[whole crypt]

it's quad mags kai

[viscid swift]

"When the total number of "Colorful Doodles" reaches a certain number, you can obtain rewards such as the SR destroyer "Z43", "Quadruple 533mm Magnetic Torpedo Modified", and limited furniture at Urayama Academy."

[soft raft]

[whole crypt]

but we know nothing else besides that it's called quad mags kai

[wispy pendant]

where did we get told about kai?

[eager mulch]

cheeky just told me just now

[whole crypt]

CN notes usually include what's in shop

[wispy pendant]

where CN notes?

[whole crypt]

https://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=2309405049202693767884 or you can go dig on bili

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.jp/news-item.html?i=1372

I prefer JP myself

[atomic abyss]

#gameplay-help message

there, translated

[whole crypt]

did JP list it as well, I might have skipped over it

[wispy pendant]

reee

[wispy pendant]

thank you

[whole crypt]

oh not shop, milestone

ah well

even better if there's no shop no time to grind for this one

[soft raft]

Not map drop smh /j

[wispy pendant]

dang, I don't remember what frostfall looked like

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Frostfall

[whole crypt]

oh right now I remember why people hated the format

[wispy pendant]

doing the extreme challenge mode rerun will only give coins if we have the frame already, correct?

[whole crypt]

there was no shop and the fights were lame with no good drops, you can't really low cost it either like normal raids

[stark quiver]

is spee cm just brute force

[whole crypt]

you can bruteforce it yes

you can also play bumper bulins with it

[stark quiver]

tf are bumper bulins

[soft raft]

"Ramming Speed!"

[eternal basalt]

No shop is TERRIBLE

[whole crypt]

well just for this once I'm glad there's no shop

[wispy pendant]

ha, even seeing that i can't barely remember that mode. I probably didn't read the story and the maps were easy

[whole crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6hoK_YNg04

[stark quiver]

smh why didnt i even ask

[sweet delta]

Sandy numbah twee

[eternal basalt]

From Zero to Hero was terrible...

[wispy pendant]

Seems like the new mag torps is going to be shop gear, and so that means only one copy. We'll have to see if it's map farmable.

Wasn't the farmable map in zero to hero actually the hard mode and not the sp level?

[stark quiver]

zero to hero was fine, farmable af

[eternal basalt]

But all buffs were only for SP, ruining everything

[wispy pendant]

clearing the temple in zero to hero wasn't that hard... but it was weird compared to a normal shop

[whole crypt]

at least zero to hero used normal raid fight format

[stark quiver]

i forgot abt the buffs

[eternal basalt]

15x hard a day, more was useless

[wispy pendant]

yeah, all the buffs were totally useless since sp was easy and we farmed hard instead. Kinda sad, because the buffs concept was cool

[whole crypt]

and the rewards basically added up to at least half an event shop

frostfall just had nothing outside of milestone, and looks like this will be the same

[eternal basalt]

[wispy pendant]

bah, oh well... just grind the milestone out and leave

[stark quiver]

so this event will be like frostfall?

[whole crypt]

fights will be, map/story may be closer to RPG but not sure until it's on

[viscid swift]

either way it's gonna be a quick but rather dull and unrewarding grind outside of milestone rewards

[cinder galleon]

Is there anyway to change the screensaver clock to my region time? I’m in the UK and it certainly isn’t the morning!

[cobalt rapids]

there isnt

[cinder galleon]

Dang it

[eternal basalt]

Maybe after patch thursday

[viscid swift]

1 Enable standby screen: Turning it OFF will disable the standby screen function.

2 Time display on standby screen: You can choose between 12-hour and 24-hour time display on the standby screen.

3. Play dialogue on standby screen: When this is turned on, the normal main screen dialogue and animation of the secretary ship will be played.

4 Automatic transition to standby screen: You can select the time for automatic transition to the standby screen when there is no operation on the main screen (1 minute, 3 minutes, or 10 minutes).

those are the updates, nothing about changing the time to match your region

[atomic abyss]

i mean

they won't

[eternal basalt]

I see somewhat 2 being ambiguish

[atomic abyss]

CN and JP only have 1 timezones

[eternal basalt]

Why?

[atomic abyss]

EN is literally the only server with multiple timezones

[eternal basalt]

The HQ got both timezones already

[plain saffron]

Where

[inland shoal]

Analogue clock when

[atomic abyss]

the EN server isn't even consistent with the usage of timezones
everything resets at 0000h except for PR coining, which still resets at 0400h like other servers

[plain saffron]

Maybe one day they'll remember there's more than 1 timezone in EN server

[atomic abyss]

given that they did nothing to fix the daylight savings issue as well

[plain saffron]

But didn't JP and CN also resets at 0000 and 0400 only for pr

[eternal basalt]

Maybe one day they realise midnight raids start at 4am for europe

[plain saffron]

Well the servers itself are in us so follow that timezone

[stark quiver]

which server does taiwan use

[eternal basalt]

I swear HQ had current time, but it's not there now

[atomic abyss]

it never has

[plain saffron]

It was cruise event that use device time

[atomic abyss]

given their reluctance to fix minor bugs

i highly doubt they will take feedback to go out of their way to enable phone time to be shown

don't count on it

common EN L

[plain saffron]

They probably thought "nah nobody gonna notice different time between those 2 diff clock" while forgotting EN exist

[atomic abyss]

i mean EN is secondary

[plain saffron]

You mean third

One day they'll fix abyssal weakness

[atomic abyss]

they are finally fixing acknowledging lil illu tho

[eternal basalt]

One day we get Eskimo

[agile berry]

is lützow good?

[whole crypt]

TW have their own region/server for the game

[plain saffron]

So another 6 years for opsi fix

[whole crypt]

I still can't believe it's happening

[viscid swift]

not particularly

[inland shoal]

So only 10 more years until it's fixed

[agile berry]

how about the other 2 super rare units in the rate up banner?

[eternal basalt]

Post every patch it's not fixed, that works for some issues (but they still don't fix other typo's )

[viscid swift]

decent, nothing spectacular though

[digital cloud]

why does this game give me so many purple bulins and what do I do with them?

[agile berry]

what's the difference between super rare and ultra rare? they're both 6 stars
also in which banner should I reroll on?

[cobalt rapids]

limit break elite or below ships

[eternal basalt]

LMB elites / grind to medals

[cobalt rapids]

not worth rerolling

[viscid swift]

practically, they require different bullins to limit break

[eternal basalt]

UR beat SSR

[viscid swift]

not always

[plain saffron]

Don't look at the star, look at the color instead

[eternal basalt]

Unless you mean Warspite

[agile berry]

I don't know what the colours mean
I just started the game

[viscid swift]

UR Beat SR is such a broad statement

you could include stuff like any of the UR CVs are better than Unicorn

[eternal basalt]

Don't look at the colors for gear btw

[cobalt rapids]

dont look at the colors for deciding anythings strength

[modern aurora]

Who are the LEAST shit META ships?

[viscid swift]

yes, everything you need to look at on a case by case basis

it's all situationally dependent

[cobalt rapids]

the gold ones

[stark quiver]

jintsuu meta

[agile berry]

I like rerolling tho

[plain saffron]

I mean like, look at the colors to determine what rarity, instead of number of stars

As usual rarity won't be 100% higher = better

[stark quiver]

then go ahead, they cant force you to stop

[viscid swift]

let me put it like this

the tutorial will take around half an hour and doing just that won't even get you 10 pulls

[plain saffron]

You won't after you seen how long AL tutorial is

[viscid swift]

not to mention there isn't anything even really worth rerolling for right now

[cobalt rapids]

if u just started the biggest boost would be to pick the server with the bb,cv medal options and get em within this month but in the long run it makes little difference
a new player shouldnt roll on any of the current banners outside free tickets but those arent frontloaded anyway for reroll

[agile berry]

isn't the tutorial like 10 mins?

[plain saffron]

QE is top sr bb

[viscid swift]

not for AL

[eternal basalt]

Get 400 cubes for new event is better than rerolling

[atomic abyss]

and even then
the amount of resources you get for a new account is really really shit

[agile berry]

after beating the first stage it lets me do what I want, unless they continue the tutorial after

[merry sequoia]

No point to reroll if there’s already NJ and Shinano guarantee nowdays

[plain saffron]

AL doesn't frontload you with pull currency at start

[merry sequoia]

I think it’s best to join the game during these type of events. Free pulls

[plain saffron]

And how much pulls did you get

[agile berry]

something like

[plain saffron]

Anyway if you want to reroll
Salted account works using yostar bind

[agile berry]

8 pulls?

[viscid swift]

exactly

AL is generous with it's gacha currency but you need time to accumulate it

[plain saffron]

Yeah 8 pulls is like 2-3 days of playing or something

[agile berry]

[viscid swift]

and like I said, there isn't really anything worth rerolling for

[cobalt rapids]

al also has an investemnt cost attached to units
even if u got nj or shinano in day1 they wouldnt boost ur start anyway

[viscid swift]

this current event is by and large a skip unless you really like the ships

[viscid swift]

yep, it'll take at least a month to get either ready to be used even if you got them

[merry sequoia]

There’s also research lab

[agile berry]

nj, shinano? are they good characters?

[merry sequoia]

Yes

[viscid swift]

they're very good but impractical for a new player to use

[cobalt rapids]

they are the permanent ultra rare characters and the biggest newbie trap

[viscid swift]

and a lot of people get baited into rolling for them when they really shouldn't

[merry sequoia]

Game has a Limit Break system that increases their stats by having a copy of them or having the correct rarity Bulin for them

[loud rover]

High cost no reward

Both

Although purple bulins can limit break blues and grays too

[agile berry]

alr I guess ill stop rerolling but between this acc and another who got 4 elites which should I use?

[eternal basalt]

No cost, good reward (for newbies)

[loud rover]

Rerolling useless

[viscid swift]

give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[merry sequoia]

I used Lutzow I think

[viscid swift]

and don't use Luztow

[merry sequoia]

Z23 retrofit is good

[atomic abyss]

most gold ships are poor investments early on

[cobalt rapids]

use the one with better medal shop rotation

[night pumice]

so from medal shop, any bbs or cas I should buy?

[eternal basalt]

Wasn't when I started, and back then I didn't get 4k free oil per week

[night pumice]

already have hood so dunno what else there is for me to get from there besides maybe kms ships

[cobalt rapids]

hood if need bb > tech
cas are all tech

[merry sequoia]

Hood still has a good barrage iirc

[tame jungle]

yep

augment also gives her consistency with it

[merry sequoia]

Like she hits hard

[eternal basalt]

Don;t do augments as new player

[digital cloud]

oops

[merry sequoia]

I wish new players kinda got a lot of ships to start with so they can dump them in commissions

[atomic abyss]

you get those from doing the story

[merry sequoia]

Yeah

Do you think if they just got unicorn as their cv, they would just steamroll through the early stages?

[eternal basalt]

Some of the old war archives give ton of new ships, locked to one map of the campaign

[atomic abyss]

you can literally guarantee yourself a unicorn via the guild shop...

[merry sequoia]

They could not be in one yet

[cobalt rapids]

dont have to

u start with 4k coins

[merry sequoia]

Didn’t know that

[stark quiver]

you get 4k to start and a guild shop, iirc, theres a public guild or something

[eternal basalt]

Winter's Crown (B2, D2)
Empyreal Tragicomedy (A3, C3)
4-4 and 5-4
Save your coin

[merry sequoia]

Iris also gives DD gun

[tame jungle]

Ehhh that gun isn’t that good

Quite inaccurate due to spread

[merry sequoia]

At one point it was the top DD gun right?

[atomic abyss]

back in 2019

[merry sequoia]

I think it’s good to have since you can upgrade it later on

[atomic abyss]

it's not when you're sinking your time and oil into it

[viscid swift]

it is not worth farming for

[stark quiver]

what dd hgun

[tame jungle]

French 138 he

[eternal basalt]

What else to use your keys on?

[viscid swift]

the drop rates are atrocious and there's a lot of oppurtunity cost involved to get what is just a decent DD gun

[merry sequoia]

That’s true. Cost to get them takes times and rng

[cobalt rapids]

chess board for ib tech or just let keys be dont have to use em

[stark quiver]

you kinda just save them

[merry sequoia]

My keys have been capped since it came out

One day Yorktown 2 event comes back PLEASE GIVE ME HVAR PLANES

[eternal basalt]

2025, 2025

[merry sequoia]

Heard HVAR planes are like THE planes to use for meta fight

I only have two

[atomic abyss]

for this meta fight yes

HVARs are the best choice for light armour

[eternal basalt]

Archived meta also 2025

[forest palm]

when they could end up releasing something that is equal or better than the HVAR in the time it takes to rerun Yorkii

[merry sequoia]

I should probably read the current meta skills so i know what to use

Because my current CV loadout isn’t working well

[frank pulsar]

hows bearn meta?

[stark quiver]

its jsut anti light and dont let vanguard die

[soft raft]

decent mobber
but better options exist

[atomic abyss]

bearn meta is one of them fast CVs
decent mobber

[frank pulsar]

no reason to raise then

[soft raft]

AVI tech

[frank pulsar]

i only have 1/3 cv rld

[low juniper]

What faction is SMS?

[soft raft]

Iron Blood

[eager mulch]

KMS but old

[cobalt rapids]

IB

[eternal basalt]

KMS

[atomic abyss]

german

[soft raft]

SMS is WW1 Era Germany

[low juniper]

So ships from SMS counts as IB tech points?

[soft raft]

[atomic abyss]

yes

[eager mulch]

yes

[soft raft]

they just give less compared to their KMS counterparts

[low juniper]

How good are the event ships

[frank pulsar]

emden is niche, the rest are tech

[merry sequoia]

I like Emden. I used her in previous meta fights

[soft raft]

realistically all tech fodder
Emden is the least shit overall but she's been powercrept

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/samvaluation#Rondo_at_Rainbow's_End

[low juniper]

Well I'll keep them to get IB vanguard and main exp when I need them

[eternal basalt]

Remember next event also IB

[low juniper]

Oh

Right it's Alvitr, I really want her

[stark quiver]

how would i want to sync biszwei, sashi and soyuz, in bossfight

[eager mulch]

give them same guns usually

or play around with different guns and see their sync

[atomic abyss]

i think he's asking for the order

[stark quiver]

would i want to fire soyuz,zwei and then sashi

[merry sequoia]

Wait zwei with musashi works?

[eager mulch]

works just like how amagi-chan with musashi works

[merry sequoia]

Never tried the two together.

[eager mulch]

Nothing stopping you from doing so

[merry sequoia]

I just go zwei with uvh usually

[frank pulsar]

...ib enjoyer?

[merry sequoia]

Nah just for the buff

I play whoever works in synergy lol

[frank pulsar]

the buff isnt enough to let uvh pull ahead of musashi on med and heavy

[eager mulch]

but the rainbow spam is enough for most content

[stark quiver]

im running the triple 410 on sashi and double champy guns

[eager mulch]

that’s ok

[stark quiver]

i also havea 457

which idk if i should use cuz desync

[atomic abyss]

nah not 457

[eager mulch]

desyncing is the last thing to do if you’re worried about syncing

[stark quiver]

if i wanted to run 457 id need 2 right?

[eager mulch]

depends on context

I wouldn’t use a 457 for opsi bossing

[atomic abyss]

457 for mobbing

[eager mulch]

457 for amagi-chan

[stark quiver]

im trying to kill soryuuu meta

[forest palm]

mle 1938 and send it

[frank pulsar]

was repulse or renown the annoying one to kill

[viscid swift]

if you're gonna use 457 for bossing you need 3

it's all or nothing

[eager mulch]

no twin 410 musashi cope?

[viscid swift]

repulse is the more annoying but both are a bit of a PIA

[forest palm]

Both were annoying to kill cause that was around the time where one shot consistency grew worse with each meta

[atomic abyss]

repulse for sure

[stark quiver]

i did 1.18m damage, full kill, and idk how to optimize more

[frank pulsar]

ill go for renown then

[patent pivot]

457 mash is the new cope

[forest palm]

I prefer the bench

[stark quiver]

im kinda just doing soryuuM for the fleet tech

[patent pivot]

If you are stuck with only 2 backliners and need to run twins on heavy then 457 mash wins

Not niche at all

[frank pulsar]

uh standard bb fleet can kill renown right? idr if there any special timing or anyt like that

[eager mulch]

are you telling me that musashi is good?

[patent pivot]

In certain situations yes

In anti heavy with no hinde musashi wins over BiZ

[eager mulch]

no way

[stark quiver]

just use them both

[viscid swift]

I tried a lot of 457 Musashi back in the day, fun times

[stark quiver]

fun times indeed

[meager tangle]

Does using same ship factions help to clear chapters currently stuck in chapter 7 my ships all over the place

[stark quiver]

no

[frank pulsar]

nah, faction fleet just makes the game more difficult

[atomic abyss]

faction fleets would actively hamper you if anything...

[frank pulsar]

mixed ships is easier to setup, i suggest you read sam newbie guide if you havent already

[meager tangle]

Man I been playing so wrong 😔

[soft raft]

yeah give this a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations too

[meager tangle]

Should I be maxing out the weapons on them too

[atomic abyss]

assuming they are good ones...

[frank pulsar]

wtf renown killed my vanguard faster than wichita

[soft raft]

for early game at least +6
+10 cane come later, and only for the good ones

[cunning turtle]

guys just asking, is Belfast and Nimi still worth it..? been using em for a years..

[meager tangle]

I saw a video saying to not waste time on blue rarity

[soft raft]

Z23 only as early-early mid game DD
Belfast has been sidelined pretty hard for quite a while

[merry sequoia]

I haven’t used belfast and nimi since like 2019

[atomic abyss]

belfast no
you are required to raise one of the starters for rookie missions
if you have her already raise and retrofit feel free to drop

[frank pulsar]

what comps did yall use for renown

[merry sequoia]

I still use Ayanami some times

[meager tangle]

At this point I'm debating just making a new account

[atomic abyss]

not worth at all

[wispy pendant]

reroll isn't a thing... what do you get from starting over?

[soft raft]

as a general rule of thumb, disregard Youtube guides
They are either outdated (like reccomending you farm 3-4), misinformation, or both

[cunning turtle]

omg..thankiees

[tame jungle]

Nah nothing time can’t fix as a new player

[merry sequoia]

Everything takes time do anything in a game. It’s impossible to mess up in AL

[cunning turtle]

yeaah, any recommendation?

[wispy pendant]

blues are cheap fleet tech ❤️

[meager tangle]

I've used my gold Bulins wrong and leveled up so many other ships that I'm stuck

[wispy pendant]

there is literally no such thing as stuck

[tame jungle]

Wait harder

[strange sphinx]

Just like Bismark faction buff For tirpitz... yet why Tirpitz have that Skill when there's no other iron blood, that she will have that buff

[soft raft]

Dunno when we dont know who you have
if you really want advice, post your dock in a thread

[soft raft]

When there are no non-Iron Blood BBs or BCs in your Main Fleet:
Not "When there are no other IB ships in the fleet"

[meager tangle]

I can't get past chapter 7 I always die cause I'm not high enough level

[merry sequoia]

Not exactly a bad thing. Those you maxed out will help with fleet tech for the future

[wispy pendant]

we can fix this

[merry sequoia]

Everything you do in AL has a purpose for something

[strange sphinx]

@meager tangle ,Make a thread and maybe we can x

[cunning turtle]

how about prinz eugen? is she still worth it or nah

[tame jungle]

No

[merry sequoia]

No

[wispy pendant]

if you threw away your collection rewards, that's a reason to start over

[soft raft]

No
too expensive fwiw

[tame jungle]

She’s pretty tanky but does 0 damage

[meager tangle]

Damn prince eugen is my highest level and y'all saying she not worth FML 💀

[wispy pendant]

we can fix this

[cunning turtle]

me too, lvl 115 rn

[strange sphinx]

Technically

[merry sequoia]

Haven’t used prinz eugen since swimsuit skin was relevant

[tame jungle]

Probably just use portland and retrofit her

[atomic abyss]

eugen was never worth it lmao

[cunning turtle]

kinda agreee

[atomic abyss]

even from launch

[strange sphinx]

She can tank

[tame jungle]

Eugen was worth it for waifu reasons only

[strange sphinx]

but that's ir

[wispy pendant]

even though we said eugen is a waste, many people have her lvl 120 anyway. don't worry

[cunning turtle]

😂😂

[merry sequoia]

I used prinz a lot on the early stages. I didn’t even know Portland was even good until I reached W10

[cunning turtle]

lmaoo alright then

[stark quiver]

i have her 125 and oathed

[cunning turtle]

thanks guys

[meager tangle]

I don't get the whole retrofit thing is that for specific ships? Or for all

[atomic abyss]

specific

[merry sequoia]

Yeah specific

[soft raft]

not all ships have retrofits

[meager tangle]

Should I focus on the retrofitting ships?

[merry sequoia]

You could find helpful guides on who to focus on

[tame jungle]

Unicorn and portland early on are good. Uni still most used as mob healer

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

[merry sequoia]

Even the starter retrofits are quite amazing

[atomic abyss]

refer to that

[meager tangle]

I only been leveling gold ships should I be using purple and blue 💀

[tame jungle]

Post dock in a thread if you want actual advice

[atomic abyss]

refer to that guide
it tells you which purple and blues to use

[merry sequoia]

Depends on who

[meager tangle]

Oki thank you

[strange sphinx]

psychogiggles, post your dock in Thread

[merry sequoia]

I forgot Saratoga retro is kinda insane

[meager tangle]

I'm too embarrassed lol

[stark quiver]

So I’m running this fleet for soryuu meta and it only does around 1.2m damage a run, how can i fix it

[strange sphinx]

Oh come on, how can we help you then

[merry sequoia]

This team pretty crazy tbh

[wispy pendant]

have you read the newbie guide? You can probably easily either go back and do the recommended ships or substitute using what you already leveled... it's totally fixable. You can be back in gear and making progress in like a week, or maybe even a day.

just post a thread and get started.

[soft raft]

Eh no worries, there are most likely people with worse docks than yours out there and that have been here before

[strange sphinx]

[patent pivot]

Run either vang or alsace instead of mash, gayir over uzi if you have her d30

[frank pulsar]

have you tried using cv? it might yield better results if you invested enough into rockets
besides that i dont think it can be improved much except maybe alsace and more +13/higher tech

[keen sable]

I promise to be nice 🤞

[wispy pendant]

as long as you're more receptive than one particular person that complains about not making progress but that's because he literally doesn't take our advice, you'll be fine. @meager tangle

[stark quiver]

cv fleet did worse with 109g, i alsace is at 111 wont be usable until 120

also why would i want to run agir for a boss fight

[patent pivot]

Agir is staple tank for BB

[frank pulsar]

agir tank gud, idr if soryuu pressure is high or low though

[soft raft]

pretty low by modern standards

[patent pivot]

Even if no pressure, you run agir

[atomic abyss]

souryuu is low

[frank pulsar]

if youre doing fine with unzen just stick to it

[eager mulch]

but muh armor break

[frank pulsar]

doesnt unzen output beat out agir ab

[patent pivot]

He's complaining about low dmg, gayir will increase it. AB is cool but not a huge deal. Slow helps phys hitrate

[viscid swift]

that vanguard lives?

[frank pulsar]

slow barely hits though

[strange sphinx]

oh god, he still here?

[merry sequoia]

Oh we don’t talk about the guy from yesterday

[meager tangle]

So what you mean by make a thread?

[frank pulsar]

fuck its 3am i need to sleep 🏃‍♂️ 💨
gl

[patent pivot]

If yall dislike gayir buff, go run some tests and show them. All tests I've done show gayir is staple

[stark quiver]

having bz fire 2nd will give me a higher chance of hitting stuff since black hole

[dry terrace]

are META ships worth playing with?

[viscid swift]

it's not we dislike her, I just think her slow is cope with fire control radar BBs given how little the timings line up

so her slow is basically a non factor esepcially with Zwei

[patent pivot]

I ran tests with HPFCR, still increase

[viscid swift]

with what exactly though

[strange sphinx]

[viscid swift]

on the BBs and Agir

[atomic abyss]

the gold ones are good, but they're not the top ships by any means

[viscid swift]

and I also question how do you know it's the slow that's resulting in the damage increase

[merry sequoia]

Hiryuu Meta I used a lot back then

[dry terrace]

I see, and what about the "little" ships?

[atomic abyss]

unless you're new to the game 🚮

[merry sequoia]

Helena meta still outshines all of them I think

[dry terrace]

understandable, I just got almost all of em and just wondering if they have some secret talents

[atomic abyss]

most of their secret talents are fleet tech related

[patent pivot]

Soy/biz/alsace/gayir or brest/ply/hinde, brest comp was intended to see if better uptime from brest would overpower gayir buffs, results were constantly 5% or worse than gayir comp. A non French would be even worse

[keen sable]

Nano and fds are ok but you will outgrow them (all puns intended)

[eager mulch]

Amagi chan is very cute I’ll have you know

[viscid swift]

yeah but how can you say that 5% was from the slow definitively

[atomic abyss]

[patent pivot]

You van pretty easily look at physical hitrates

[viscid swift]

okay so but what was Agir even slowing at that point?
Soyuz'z last salvo

[patent pivot]

What?

[viscid swift]

Also how much reload tech, oaths torps, etc

I can get the idea that Agir made a different

I'm questioning how feasible it would be for someone to achieve it

[patent pivot]

Firing order during that batch of tests was als/biz/soy, full rld tech for all and no oath

[wispy pendant]

yes, but unsure if he's listening now or not... He asked about bofors this morning

[strange sphinx]

[viscid swift]

Full CB reload tech? And was Goldburn used?

[patent pivot]

Cannot for the life of me remember if that was twin French or triple mag, I know I tried out both but don't remember which that was

[patent pivot]

Yes and no

[viscid swift]

Okay so you can start to see what I'm getting at can't you

This needs at least full CB reload tech and depending on the torps used some torp hitting RNG as well

[patent pivot]

Give me an hour

[sweet delta]

People use agir for slow? She just has armor break

[atomic abyss]

didn't people cope with agir and kirovM for rodM

[keen sable]

Yes but you only need one slow not all

To bridge from 23s to placy or whatever

[atomic abyss]

yeah... and even then wasn't agir even more cope than kirovM

[viscid swift]

seeing as it was only for the first airstrike yes

[wary timber]

Once I finish getting Agir should I start on maybe .... FDG which I basically have no BPs for or should I work on something that's almost done like Kitakaze which i only need to farm exp for and have a lot of BPs

[atomic abyss]

fdg you can coin the BPs
agir you can't

[reef flume]

I see you're a man of culture aswell

[keen sable]

I like free ships so fdg

[wary timber]

But like I said I have almost no BPs for FDG

[keen sable]

And i said Free ship

[wary timber]

Probably only 40 ish while my Kitakaze has like 270+

[atomic abyss]

and just so you know, you can buy BPs for FDG

a ship that will serve you much much longer than kitakaze

[keen sable]

Even better. The less you have the more free fdg is

[atomic abyss]

honestly there are some other easily accessible non UR DDs that are better than kitakaze even...

[keen sable]

How do you do agir and not know what coining is yet?

[stark quiver]

This is like first half of battle

[spring bolt]

why musashi? no vanguard? and helena is not needed

[stark quiver]

Unless I travel back in time then no vanguard

[wary timber]

Look I already have a Shima and Kawakaze. I just want an IJN gunboat + torpboat meme

[atomic abyss]

then that's a you problem

[soft raft]

yeah that's a you problem for trying to stick to the meme

[keen sable]

Look you can do whatever you want. You don't need any of our permission or approval.

[wary timber]

Remind me what coining is again

[soft raft]

using coins in the place of blueprints to work on research ship dev lvls

[wary timber]

Oh right. She same thing I was doing with Georgia not long ago

[viscid swift]

thso you're only getting off 3 salvos with your BBs?

[strange sphinx]

Hmmmmm how days left for OP siren to reset?

[stark quiver]

What?

[soft raft]

the same # of days left in the month
so like 5-6

[atomic abyss]

26, 27, 28, 29, 30

[viscid swift]

how many salvos are the BBs getting off

[stark quiver]

Lemme chrck

[wary timber]

But how much u can do that is limited to the ships level right. Like the fate simulation stops once u reach like say lv30 lv70 right

[viscid swift]

I have a feeling that this may need autoloader tech

[atomic abyss]

that's basically like standard limit breaks

[wary timber]

It's 3am here my brain isn't braining anymore -

[atomic abyss]

the real limit is 15 a day
but that's incredibly expensive - discount decreases the more you buy in a day
most people just do 10 a day

[keen sable]

Stars are still subject to global requirements

[soft raft]

they have the same mininums as regular ships for Limit break (D10/D20/D30 respectively) but Fate Sims are not limited and are a sepreate thing than dev levels

[wary timber]

Ahh

[stark quiver]

Yea 3 @viscid swift

[keen sable]

It has nothing to do with coining either. You can't give 508 bp to a L1 KTKZ even if you had that many

[viscid swift]

okay then, you have 3 options, drop the fire control radars for black shells and fully lean into 3 strikes or try and force 4 salvos out of the BBs with Autoloaders

[stark quiver]

Time for my +12 auto loaders

[spring bolt]

reference video, the guy was using shit vanguards + ply so you should do better
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Gu4m1u79M?p=4

[stark quiver]

Auto loader

[elfin hollow]

Are these two fleets good? I'm new to the game and don't really know much about it. I'm also planning to replace Amagi with Hiryuu and Sovetskaya Rossiya with Seydlitz.

[soft raft]

extremly scuffed
you are in no position to be working on a 2nd fleet right now

Lack of Unicorn is also a big no no when she objectively blows Shouhou straight out of the water in the long run

[elfin hollow]

I was planning to set Unicorn when I got it

[soft raft]

Give this a read when you can
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[keen sable]

Free in guild shop

Along with helena

[mellow hornet]

For sp stage on the event is it one boss or are there mobs with it

[elfin hollow]

I already bought Helen

[stark quiver]

mobs + boss

[keen sable]

Buy retrofit bp if it exists then Refresh and buy unicorn

[soft raft]

have you refreshed the guild shop yet
you can do that for 50 guild tokens once every shop rotation

[elfin hollow]

I forgot about it, I'll do it now

[tame jungle]

if an enemy has a weakness in operation siren, do you have to wait for the "weakness discovered" for it to be active or is it active from the start?

[atomic abyss]

you've been scammed

they have never worked

[tame jungle]

bomboclaat

[viscid swift]

they're also getting off 4 salvos with maxed tech and oathed main fleets

[tame jungle]

so the weakness bs just doesn't matter

[stark quiver]

i in fact do not have max tech and oaths

[soft raft]

never mattered when my mob fleet curbstomps them either way

[tame jungle]

yeah but i'm not at that point quite yet

[stark quiver]

457 on sashi did not work

[forest palm]

to no one's surprise

what's next Twin 406 skc

[stark quiver]

gold 410 twin

[forest palm]

[atomic abyss]

i mean twin 406 is essentially the same as the twin 410/410 kai

[forest palm]

so do wish Musashi got the bonus for just having any IJN piece of gear

[tame jungle]

musashi augment when

[cursive nebula]

Hello, Anyone seen full walkthrough guide for Project Identity for TB ?
Don't have time for this date sim mode.
So far I have seen only 3 guides on YT , but I am looking for the rest of them / or all.

[forest palm]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488

[wispy pendant]

Is anyone using their TB as their secretary?

[forest palm]

ignored it like 2nd day of release

[stark quiver]

i js forgot about it

[wary timber]

So question. Would it be worth attempting to build around Helena Meta's extremely short slow effect window

Stuff like timing an 818 swordfish strike at the same time

[sterile fox]

What do you gain by doing that instead of using regular Helena and a regular slow?

[forest palm]

the radius of Meta Helena's zone is small, and it's positional to where she is, on top of that the gearing is awkward just to facilitate it, so no