gameplay-help

[mellow hornet]

the slot she takes up

[wispy pendant]

she buffs kms ships, is that "worth" it to you?

[forest palm]

faction buffs will never hold much weight, or be a selling point

[wispy pendant]

so the answer is basically no

also, she has horrible AA/non existent AA gun slot

[forest palm]

yesn't, because she has no AA she doesn't drag the average AA down, so it's weighted on the 5 other ships rather than 6 total

[mellow hornet]

so shes under plymouth but more dps than retro san diego?

[forest palm]

if you're talking about pre-augment sandy sure

[soft raft]

No
She was never a BB in the first place, even in WoWs

[strange sphinx]

Me who thought Hood is a BB but in reality it is BC

[soft raft]

ngl cant blame you when the only difference between BB and BC is hard mode requirements

The game doesnt really properly reflect the differences those two had IRL

[ripe bluff]

What the fuck is this world how do I beat it bro

Tweaking

[broken monolith]

so what server should I play in?

[tame jungle]

doesn't matter

[ripe bluff]

[tame jungle]

unless you have friends in one server

[soft raft]

doesnt matter
only major difference is how tryhard they are in clearing raids

or if you have freinds in a server

[sweet delta]

Might have something to do with the fact that unicorn or any other primary healer is nowhere to be seen, and sandy is not retrofitted

[ripe bluff]

I dont have the bulins to retrofit sandy yet but is it really that much of a difference?

[spring bolt]

welcome to ch 13

[sweet delta]

I mean

• you're using single line
• you have effectively zero main fleet healing
• your ships are under leveled
• your gear probably sucks

[ripe bluff]

oh right I forgot formations are a thing

well I ruined my other fleet to bring uni over and it seem to be working for now

time to see how well it stands against large air

[sweet delta]

[hollow gust]

[sweet delta]

Other fleet with unicorn? What?

[soft raft]

dont tell me you were using a healer in your boss fleet....

[ripe bluff]

no I have two mob fleets

[soft raft]

why

[ripe bluff]

I made a second because I realized how bad it was against air

[soft raft]

and yet it's somehow just as bad if not worse
at this point post your dock in a thread

[ripe bluff]

had to swap out damage gear for aa gear on uni

[orchid shoal]

Who's a good ship to support a carrier centered fleet? Im trying all carriers in Wichita fight. My go to right now is Kazagumo. Is there a better support? My carriers are Yorky 2, Alsace, and technically Musashi for debuff.

[spring bolt]

level your sandy, give her a good aa gun, unique aug is not necessary but a plus, and stop using double BC in your mob fleet, instead, put more AA capable CV/Ls in the fleet

[eager mulch]

I didn’t know musashi and Alsace were cvs

[sweet delta]

carrier centered fleet with 2 BBs

[soft raft]

"Carrier centered fleet"

2 BBs

[orchid shoal]

Oh crap I forgot Alsace is a BB LMAO

[soft raft]

[orchid shoal]

Maybe that's why Kazagumo seemed like she wasn't doing anything

[ripe bluff]

[sweet delta]

Dead ships also don't do anything

[orchid shoal]

#bigdum

[spring bolt]

for wichita M, sirius, cuz her buff remains when she's dead

[sweet delta]

Use Plymouth and Helena

[eager mulch]

maybe his carrier is in the center

[orchid shoal]

Actually no 😂😂😂 this was just a fail

[ripe bluff]

wait just reminded me I have an Alsace

[rain vine]

surely you would have noticed something off when going to gear alsace and musashi and see no options for planes

[spring bolt]

anyway the key is: harbin for vanguard survivability, helena for damage buff, the last one can be sirius or ply for popular comps with 1 bb flag and 2 carriers, both give similar result

[spring scarab]

Is there any list which shows ships that should be prioritize and should make them 125 level

[inland shoal]

So you get the Triple 406mm Fighters, triple 155mm Dive Bombers and STAAG TBs

[sweet delta]

125 whichever ships you'll use in endgame content

[inland shoal]

You get enough arrays that you don't have to be too worried imo
Not enough to just 125 everything tho

[spring scarab]

That's gone be hard 😅 but I'm just disposing every common and rare ships because I'm struggling for dock space

[ripe bluff]

ok I think I need to stop using rocket planes and use actual fighters

[sweet delta]

That alone won't fix the issue

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[sweet delta]

When you're only using one carrier, fixing one plane slot won't do much for the fleet

[red stag]

new kms event this week or is it nxt week??

[forest palm]

this week

[spring bolt]

man you only have 1 fighter slot in that fleet... it's a good way to go but get more carriers in the first place

[ripe bluff]

no no that fleet has the fighter my other fleet has 2 CVs but no fighters

[forest palm]

no...that fleet as a whole is problematic

[hollow gust]

Isn't that w12

[ripe bluff]

no
w13

[worldly pewter]

how can u do that ?

[spring bolt]

should be 13-1

[ripe bluff]

yeah 13-1

[hollow gust]

Huh totally forgot w13 had lvl115s

[ripe bluff]

on Uni I use the fw190 to nuke everything with the preload but that isnt working out here so I swapped to a regular fighter and also changed the torp bombers to breguet

[hollow gust]

You know , you can just run all CVs?

[ripe bluff]

chat is using double healer cope

[hollow gust]

Use no Ryuuhou as main healer is cope

[forest palm]

there's a difference between a main healer, and a side healer

[spring bolt]

well usually double healer is 2 healers in mob

[hollow gust]

You can ditch that rupp for unicorn

[forest palm]

Odin could go as well

[viscid swift]

just start a thread and post your dock

all this back and forth is just inefficient

[spring bolt]

also if you really want a healer in boss fleet, aquila is a better choice

[ripe bluff]

copium dock

[worldly pewter]

i think his main issue is just levels and i think he knows it

[orchid shoal]

Thank you so much! I've been struggling. I'm not super good at AL honestly, as shown by my comments above LOL but thank you for the help. I'll have to level Harbin but that should be easy.

If Harbin isn't quite leveled right now, would Agir work as a substitute? Or Any other ship like maybe Roon? I don't have to have the absolute Meta comp, I just wanna do better than 250k damage.

[worldly pewter]

play the game u will do better

[spring bolt]

agir should be better, she has far superior ehp (if she has good ship level and dev level)
harbin's trick is the smoke, if you time the torp launch correctly (in this case, as close to 18.4s as possible), her smoke would cover the all vanguards and greatly improve the survivability

[worldly pewter]

do the chains track the vanguards or they have a fixed pattern that someone can memorize to dodge ?

[inland shoal]

Pretty sure they aren't aimed

[worldly pewter]

[little plinth]

is there a setting to disable the main menu screensaver style thing after you've been idle for a bit? trying to hear the idle lines but don't like having to click every 2 minutes

[spring bolt]

all i know is you will be chained anyway when auto

[orchid shoal]

Awesome. Sounds good. I'll go with that route then and throw in Sirius. I appreciate the help!

[worldly pewter]

yeah auto hard fights is actual a bad idea

[inland shoal]

Uhh you can just listen to them in the skin details menu?

But there probably also is a setting to disable the screensaver

[soft raft]

Settings -> Options -> "No Sleep mode on main menu" -> off

[little plinth]

I set that one to off and the screensaver still showed up

well it's not a huge deal either way, ty

[inland shoal]

Yeah the setting is somewhat broken
I think even switching to old ui didn't help in that case

[spring bolt]

keep clicking this thing i guess

[low juniper]

Should I only use series (x) BPs for a ship in that series (e.g. using series VI BPs for series VI ships) or is it alright to use newer series BPs to get older series BPs (e.g. using series VI BPs for a series IV ship)?

[inland shoal]

You can use newer seasons, but most of the time it's not a good idea due to older seasons being oftentimes worse and also 4 and below is coinable (except for DR4)

[low juniper]

I mean I just wanted to use VI bps for Agir since I have 16 IV bps and 62 VI bps, and I need 174 more Agir bps for dev 30

I haven't started development yet because I'm working on Cheshire for the newcomer mission 3 completion

[inland shoal]

Well a) that doesn't even get your Ägir anywhere special and b) it means a step back for your Kear and Hindy

[eager mulch]

game is a marathon not a sprint

just take your time

[bold salmon]

are vit-2 better than barracudas?

[low juniper]

Wdym by A?

[inland shoal]

I'd consider it if you're done with your 2nd tenrai and just need a few more Ägir prints to finish her

[low juniper]

What does Tenrai have to do with anything?

[tame jungle]

best dive bomber

[inland shoal]

I mean that investing resources whichout reaching a major breakpoint is a waste

It has to do with it that you should usually do pr4 until you have 2 tenrais

[low juniper]

But what does a plane have to do with finishing a CB

Like why 2 tenrais

[tame jungle]

because until you have the 2nd tenrai you'll have time to also acquire Agir bps

and you will want multiple tenrais since it's the best overall dive bomber in terms of damage anyway

[spring bolt]

he meant agir prints is just a by product for tenrai, and you will have excess amout of them anyway when you get enough tenrai

[wispy pendant]

You'll eventually get more out of tenrais then the rest of the boats in season 4

[viscid swift]

getting your 2nd Tenrai also usually comes after maxing all of the relevant ships from PR4

[low juniper]

So should I buy 17 Tenrai blueprints to craft my first one or no

[wispy pendant]

also, tenrai in prototype shop, so that's a third tenrai

[low juniper]

I have exactly enough bps and proto cores to make one

[bold salmon]

next month we have research 7?

[wispy pendant]

you'll eventually want to buy all the tenrai prints and finish whatever tenrai progress till you have 2 or 3

[viscid swift]

most likely yes

[spring bolt]

you will want to buy out the tenrai prints in the shop someday so it's fine to buy them if you got all higher priority stuffs

[low juniper]

Well what's the higher priority stuff

[wispy pendant]

maybe 3 champ guns?

[viscid swift]

past precedence aside when mentioning the Italian DR CA they said see in July during the stream or something to that affect

[low juniper]

What is that

[tame jungle]

tenrai then champagne guns from PR3

[low juniper]

Idk what that champagne gun is

[low juniper]

I don't have a single bp for that

[tame jungle]

because you're not developing PR3 rn i'm guessing lol

[low juniper]

Yeah I'm on PR4

I finished Anchorage about a month or two ago

[wispy pendant]

you buy their bps with core so you don't have to research PR3

[spring bolt]

that's normal, don't worry
just get some from shop

[low juniper]

This?

[bleak shuttle]

what items are worth buying in the items shop with gems

[low juniper]

So champ gun first and then Tenrai?

[wispy pendant]

eh... not sure, feels like champ guns first, but that's me

[low juniper]

I mean all of my bb/bcs have the 406 except Soyuz who has her gun

[wispy pendant]

gems for dockspace only if you already bought the dorm stuff

[worldly pewter]

the mk6 gun is good against light but falls sharply against heavy unlike champy or soyuz guns that are good against heavy and work decently against medium type armor

[spring bolt]

you need 3 so 75 prints, will take you 4 months but i think it's ok if you want to get tenrai first after you got 2
or if you have over 2145 proto core, you can get tenrai now as you have enough anyway

[worldly pewter]

but because i don't know where are u in the game choosing between tenrai and champy is kinda hard
imo the best use of champy in the mid game is abyssals and liften the weight in strongholds so mainly opsi

[bleak shuttle]

what stages do i farm? i'm at chapter 5 and can't do the ongoing event

[low juniper]

I mean right now I'm 10 enemies away from finishing W13

[little tree]

what level are your ships

[bleak shuttle]

average 70-80

[little tree]

Post pictuers of your fleet and dock in a thread here

[worldly pewter]

well TBH i think the champy gun won't be used in campaign
i need verification on this
that is why i said it will be opsi focused

[wispy pendant]

you don't change for light armor?

[stiff isle]

For Meowcifers is it better to focus on single ship types like BB/BC or CA/CL ? And is it better to focus on on skill type like FP or AVI for CVs?

[wispy pendant]

For comparison against different armor types, the champ gun versus the other two HE guns

[viscid swift]

I would reccomend giving this a read https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[wispy pendant]

which 406? there are many

[stiff isle]

Ok i'll give it a read through thanks.

[viscid swift]

/wiki Triple 406

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(BL_16"_Mk_I)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/45_Mk_6)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/50_Mk_7)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/50_Mark_D_Mod_0_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/50_Mk_2)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Model_1940_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(MK-1)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mk_6_Prototype)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_460mm_(Type_94)

Jun 24, 2024, 6:00 PM

[viscid swift]

that many to be precise

[low juniper]

Purple triple 406

[wispy pendant]

it's even more if you include the twins

[wispy pendant]

that still doesn't narrow it down

[low juniper]

And no because I still can' tell what armor is what, but I'm pretty much breezing through W13

[worldly pewter]

i think since he is already at the doors of w14 he meant the mk6

[wispy pendant]

that's good to hear, glad the game isn't giving you trouble

[wispy pendant]

call that one "mk6" for us next time

[low juniper]

Oh

I still don't know how to tell armor differences though, does it tell you somewhere?

Is it the yellow/red arrows on an enemy?

[viscid swift]

in OpSi just turn off fleet lock

[wispy pendant]

click the "he" button with the arrow

[viscid swift]

for campaign, enemies have the same armor type as their playable counterparts

like for intsance, Taiho and enemy Command ships are heavy armor
for which you want AP guns on your BBs

[wispy pendant]

most ships follow their hull type, BB's are heavy, DD are light, are most other things medium unless exception on wiki?

[worldly pewter]

taiho is heavy ?

[wispy pendant]

yes

[worldly pewter]

should be one of the rare cases where a cv is heavy right ?

[forest palm]

it used to be how fast one could kill Taiho with torps

[spring bolt]

she's more ATM nowadays

[low juniper]

Well I never pay attention to thr armor stuff but I still clear

[bronze hedge]

is she good

[wispy pendant]

these are the heavy carriers

[wispy pendant]

decent

[bronze hedge]

ohok

[worldly pewter]

how were u doing abyssals and stronghold then ?

[forest palm]

that's the thing with Ops you don't need to

[wispy pendant]

they aren't that hard

[forest palm]

if you have strong enough fleets you can just not care

[low juniper]

Well I still have some C5-6 siren coords in my storage and I bruteforce and r&r if I die

I already completed the normal siren thing in the center

[viscid swift]

it works

[low juniper]

I can show my fleets for opsi if you wsnt

[viscid swift]

but it will eventually stop working and you'll be in for a rude awakening when it does
so really it's better to start learning sooner rather than later

gear is the single most important thing after all, even more so than what ships you use

[worldly pewter]

yeah i chose abyssals because u have 1 shot to do and for a med progression u will be at max 2 fleets to do the thing
strongholds because of how tedious it is

[low juniper]

Well I mean I don't really have a lot of it, I'm just trying to get more gear lab materials to craft better ones

[worldly pewter]

but the armor applicability extends more than that

[inner delta]

if you have good ship and you dont care about 1 shotting, it doesn't matter

[blazing shale]

Is AL lagging?

[inner delta]

just throw all 4 and don't even need to know the armor

if al lag then it's your phone

[low juniper]

These are my opsi fleets right now, the 3rd and 4th ones are just so it doesn't tell me I need 4 full fleets

[viscid swift]

fleets are all over the place

[low juniper]

How so

[viscid swift]

levels aside, you're missing tanks, not using buffers, etc

it's just inefficient at get the maximum damage from your fleets

[low juniper]

What tanks and buffers?

[hollow gust]

And you are spreading out our best ships

[viscid swift]

tank, exactly what it sounds like, the ship in the lead position which is expected to take the most damage
buffers, ships that buff the damage output of other ships

[low juniper]

That was not my question

I meant what tanks and buffers am I missing/not using?

[hollow gust]

Make a thread , that thing is not a mess you can fix without rebuilding

[viscid swift]

Sirius for a start, a slower like Ark Royal or preferably AvP

but I don't know exactly what you have

[low juniper]

One second

[steady beacon]

@whole crypt , in the three-strike CV comp with Harbin, can you still kill consistently with two scans?

[sage marlin]

is mogador stronger than yuudachi?

[viscid swift]

yes

[sage marlin]

was that @me or for pilica? 😅

[viscid swift]

you

[worldly pewter]

pilica woke up dreaming about the witchita fight

[grizzled jasper]

Can anyone share fleet for 13-4 hard and ch14?

[rain vine]

just make a thread and post your dock

those are also two very different fleets

[hollow gust]

well what ships do you have, you def arent copying the fleets of most people ehre

[hollow gust]

use a w15 fleet

[rocky fjord]

any fleet that can do 15 will do 13 and 14

[agile sky]

if a ship is at max lvl, do they still contribute to PR ships exp or nah?

[cobalt rapids]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

• Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
• Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
• Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.

[agile sky]

thnx

[fickle scarab]

Should I try to get the last 2 lvls?

[forest palm]

it's fleet tech, so yes

[raven kindle]

what are some good 1-1 setups to rotate in d3 so i dont run out of morale

[undone plover]

It is a rerun with a limited shop
Why are u farming it so hardly?
Also how are u running out of morale faster than oil?

Also 1:1 on oilcap isnt ideal

Just do 3:3 and rotate them with another 3:3 if they run out of morale

But anything level 120 with good gear should work for1:1 tbh

[raven kindle]

what about ships that save time irl, are ddgs good for fast clearing?

[rain vine]

i mean, are you out of ships to level?
yes, a ddg is a good ship

[undone plover]

They are good
CV would be best so u dont get the stupid BB slowdown
But I am curious what u are trying to farm?

Is this for the g7e torps?

[raven kindle]

i still need to work on fp tech but thats about it

i wanna get the chips and cat boxes from shop and dont have much time

[rain vine]

then you might as well just do a 3:3 setup

throw in some hard carries along with levelling fodder

[undone plover]

There is still the 3x and 5x for 2 days left and SP and dailies

[agile sky]

coining bp only works after you have the ship right? No way to stock up ahead of time?

[rain vine]

yes, and you need to use any existing bps to do coining

[opal bone]

Why cant i retrofit her?

[calm rose]

anti air node

[rain vine]

press the plus at the bottom

[rain vine]

also that

[calm rose]

the entire bottom row actually

[opal bone]

Do i need to fill the whole thing? Bruh

[calm rose]

you needa complete all nodes before you can modernize

[opal bone]

🥲

[raven kindle]

i was also asking for future reference since i heard yk2 rerun coming and i want hvars

[calm rose]

not anytime soon

[forest palm]

don't even know if HVAR will be relevant by the time her rerun happens lol

[wispy pendant]

you think they will make a readily available improvement to the HVAR?

[forest palm]

that that can happen is certainly on the table since Yorkii isn't till 2025 lol

[wispy pendant]

i guess we'll see with season 7, hope it has good gear

[fickle scarab]

can't wait for another ur ca gun

[forest palm]

PR7, any event in the pipeline between then an now, the next GL update, there's a lot of room

[wispy pendant]

ican see them making HVARs a gear lab option

[forest palm]

basically I don't see the need to worry about HVAR farming when it's so far off, and things could change by the time it does happen

[undone plover]

I dont think that has happened with event gear so far has it?

[wispy pendant]

they'll probably fix the drop rates for them too

[viscid swift]

it's an oddity in that sense yes

[undone plover]

To be fair u need to worry and save oil if u wanna farm a decent number of hvarcats

[uncut willow]

Missed this the event last time. Only pulled Thuringon and Lutzow. Should I start using cubes to try and get the other ships?

[wispy pendant]

how many cubes do you have?

[uncut willow]

About 120

[opal bone]

What to buy in the event shop?

[wispy pendant]

no do not use cubes at all

[viscid swift]

they're just collection tech

[uncut willow]

Ok cool

[viscid swift]

check the pins

[wispy pendant]

you need to save for 400 cubes for next UR rerun or event... you should probably build very minimally even on the new event

[uncut willow]

I only use EU anyhow, but didnt know if any of these drops were exceptional

I have all the UR and enough bulins to MLB them

[wispy pendant]

Emden is good in the kms fleet, but not necessary

[cobalt rapids]

non of them are EU

[wispy pendant]

might as well grind points for Seydlitz

[uncut willow]

I know but I always consider one day I’ll be too far in the campaign to succeed w EU and cave and need to use other ships

[wispy pendant]

You can make a decently strong EU only fleet

[cobalt rapids]

as a true eu user ull want the other factions to serve as free stats for ur eagles

[wispy pendant]

As a true EU user, colonize the world and claim all the factions as your own for 'murica.

[eternal basalt]

Although other said you needd all you need to follow the arrows, top all, bottom 3rd

[opal bone]

Yeah i noticed the arrows 👍

[wispy pendant]

pretty sure all retrofits require you do to all nodes prior

@eternal basalt which one doesn't?

[eternal basalt]

Most really, as said look at the arrows

[undone plover]

The DDGs

I think nelson also has one after the modernization
I know cuz I did it 2 months after benching my nelson

[eternal basalt]

A lot have a node after modenisation, has noyhing to do with it

[wispy pendant]

Can we skip the top row and bottom row and go straight down the middle?

[sweet delta]

Look at the arrows

[wispy pendant]

Today I learned.

[opal bone]

Is there any way to get more of theese than only the weekly challanges

[eternal basalt]

I mean you do want to do them all, but...

[undone plover]

New events in the shops
Sadly emden rerun doesnt have this
And we had a mini event for this as well one week ago

[opal bone]

So nothing right now?

[wispy pendant]

yeah, i just complete them all anyway, but now I'll look carefully if it's a useless ship. I'm done with all the retros up till now anyway.

[cobalt rapids]

daily raid

[undone plover]

No but also a trick to save on these
When creating the purple augments
Upgrade from blue and u save 2 of these

[eternal basalt]

Which is a weekly

[opal bone]

I dont understand sorry

[dawn hamlet]

Hi For combat data xp, "main" like iron blood main ship, it means the backline right?

[candid meteor]

yes

[dawn hamlet]

thanks guys

[undone plover]

Let us say u wanna make a purple BB sword augment for your FdG
Instead of creating purple from scratch
Upgrade a blue augment (sword) to +10 then uncap it
It will cost 2 cores instead of 4

[gilded shore]

is there a limit to how many officers we can have in a guild?

[crimson rock]

yes, 4

[opal bone]

Okay I think i understand. I havent really done anything with this augmentation system yet but i Will try to keep this in mind thanks

[gilded shore]

thanks, was checking the wiki but i couldn't find anything about it there

[undone plover]

Np
It is always good to ask

[crimson rock]

is seydlitz worth it?

[wispy pendant]

free = worth

[cobalt rapids]

worth what

[crimson rock]

8k event currency

[eternal basalt]

8k points, or pull, or drop

[cobalt rapids]

yes worth

[crimson rock]

so i have some grind to do, okay

[wispy pendant]

hope you get her on drop soon if you don't want to grind the event

I have a question: For most core per event point, are the rainbow prints better or gold? I don't need the prints themselves, just going to convert them to core, and unsure I want to grind to buy both.

[viscid swift]

DR

double the cost but 4 times the core per print

[wispy pendant]

k, thanks again ❤️

[crimson rock]

you can turn prints Into cores?

[undone plover]

Protocore. And yes
U need a dev30 ship
Convert the general BP to that ship BP then analyze
DR = 20
PR = 5 protocore

[crimson rock]

ok, thanks

[rough ravine]

Guys how can i remove augments from the storage ?
Cant craft new ones cuz its full.

[mellow hornet]

For farming xp with the lowest oil costs you should always do the highest stage you can do?

[wispy pendant]

i actually don't know what research gear I would buy for cores, tbh. I have enough of everything, it's just for avoiding gear swapping at this point.

[wispy pendant]

you must use some to level up others, hope you can still do that

[slender heart]

You can feed it to the other augment you want to create

[wispy geyser]

If i have 16k prototype cores, it would hurt me if i skip PR and DR prints for cores in this event?

[rough ravine]

Damn didnt know
Was always clicking on auto since i had plenty of mats
Will try thanks!

[undone plover]

Can you actually brick it by crafting too many augments?

[cobalt rapids]

not it wont hurt

[slender heart]

Preferably oil capped maps

[wispy pendant]

I think maybe

[cobalt rapids]

[wispy pendant]

can we buy space with gems?

[mellow hornet]

Like which ones, I've always done 12-4.

[slender heart]

That's good, no need to reduce your ships

[heavy coyote]

what ships are in the UR exchange? all of them?

[wispy pendant]

two only, NJ and Shinano

[slender heart]

Hurt? Depends on your account

[wispy pendant]

maybe more later, likely, but who knows when

[heavy coyote]

Poo, i was hoping for some that i actually did not have. oh well. thanks for the heads up

[viscid swift]

unless you haven't bought anything already from the prototype shop no

[wispy geyser]

that's thing is i have already all buyed, monthly getting weapon prints only

[viscid swift]

then no, you're not missing anything by skipping them

[cobalt rapids]

Fp farmers

[wispy geyser]

ok, thank you

[slender heart]

Cheeky, do you have the updated version of the fleet builder website link?

[viscid swift]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[slender heart]

Thx

[calm rose]

strange question but does cross fleet damage get reflected in result screen?

[viscid swift]

no

[calm rose]

okay thanks

[viscid swift]

it's not attributed to any ship in the fleet

[calm rose]

assuming haku, shinano, implacable in a fleet in harbiter, the damage ranking should probably be smth like haku > shina > implacable right?

[cobalt rapids]

On hermit ye unless some1s ordnance doesnt get to hit

[elfin hollow]

Are CA generally tanks

[cobalt rapids]

No, hulls dont decide roles

And if a hull fills the same role its a coincidence

[elfin hollow]

So I just gotta gamble and pray I get a good one

[soft raft]

bro Portland is right there

[elfin hollow]

I know

[cobalt rapids]

Portland into ancho need no prayers

[static harbor]

So I'm seeing Sandy Kai getting bumped up, what does her aug do?

[cobalt rapids]

big dmg boost, minor aa and surv boost

[viscid swift]

makes her do more damage, give her more AA, makes her tankier

[static harbor]

THAT big? Dafuq?

[forest palm]

ya

[cobalt rapids]

that big

[calm rose]

yep

[wispy pendant]

she numba wun again

[static harbor]

Wow, gonna have to dust off the negative IQ shipfu then

[wispy pendant]

they didn't upgrade her audio, sadly

[static harbor]

Who is she comparable to now?

[cobalt rapids]

plymouth

[wispy pendant]

like, you posted her next to plymouth lol

[static harbor]

Wasnt it Hinden>Ply>Unzen for vanguard damage?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[viscid swift]

no

[cobalt rapids]

harbin is also near ply but she doesnt get to be tex near not support tagged ply~

[static harbor]

Howd it go then? Or was there more to it

[cobalt rapids]

always more to it

at the very least hinde>ply in terms of pers dmg since they function virtually the same as fight mechanics go

[eternal basalt]

It's the CL tierlist, it wont display CA

[dawn hamlet]

I'm soon done with MLB Madagor, I intend to buy (not rn) san diego proto item for her retrofit, is it a good idea?

I don't have any other UR

[viscid swift]

I would still wait at this rate

[dawn hamlet]

for a UR rerun?

[wispy pendant]

she has good damage, but according to the tierlist, she's tiered partly due to her tags, one being AA, and so she's good damage with great AA.

[dawn hamlet]

Next UR rerun is supposed to be Vanguard right? is she a must pull?

[eternal basalt]

Yes, and yes

[soft raft]

Yup

[static harbor]

Ah, ive nowhere to put Sandy, sadge

[wispy pendant]

wdym?

[static harbor]

Like for OpSi shenanigens I mean

[wispy pendant]

you don't really need AA in Opsi, but she can still probably go somewhere

[static harbor]

Here lemme show ya

Hindenburg soon

[wispy pendant]

yeah, she doesn't really replace anyone really, probably a little better than mogador I think

Also, you don't really need a "light armor CV" fleet

I've ditched mine

[static harbor]

I wouldnt know who to replace that with ngl, I mean I have Alsace and Ulrich

and NJ

[soft raft]

just spam it with URs for crossfleet

[fathom sable]

It has to be done?

[soft raft]

/corewarning

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1234503367070449664/image.png?ex=6630f85a&is=662fa6da&hm=54a69b0a628f86ece9e973ea5952798e87f4adf1e5c5931926afa4260f147042&

[wispy pendant]

maxing core by around 20 days is totally normal

[static harbor]

?

[wispy pendant]

just wait for next month

[static harbor]

My poor level 1 Ulrich

[wispy pendant]

do you have more vanguard cross fleet?

[static harbor]

Uhhhh

[wispy pendant]

answer is no, ok

[static harbor]

Who else gives cross fleet? Other than UR bunny

[wispy pendant]

just shima

[static harbor]

Ah, the one that got away

[hot bobcat]

@soft raft alright, i finally got hood so everyone is in their proper place correct?

[wispy pendant]

Portland should be left not middle

helena probably middle

also, limit break them

[soft raft]

^

[gloomy mesa]

Any of those worth it?

[static harbor]

That paw tho

[wispy pendant]

The top right thing is good for BBs

HPFCR is what we call it

the boiler is good for speed

[hot bobcat]

Yep, working on the LB's

[wispy pendant]

also, just follow gear guides

[gloomy mesa]

A comment I can spam?

[gloomy mesa]

Hood, Nelson, Alsace good options for this one?

[wispy pendant]

All BBs, makes them shoot sooner

[gloomy mesa]

Hmm if I show the current gear can you help me find the best fit?

[half plover]

after finishing anchorage dev30, should I focus on her fs or rather push AvP?

also would it be alright if I post my opsi fleets in a threat and ask for updated teams to finish this opsi season and start the next one

[hot bobcat]

Once i get all my ships squared out, should i get concerned about gear and such?

[rocky fjord]

enough to read the gear guides

[hot bobcat]

Alr

[slender heart]

Ancho fs5 is not really that significant to her, you can move to avp

[slender heart]

Yes

[rocky fjord]

just ping someone in that threat

[craggy lance]

also just idle thinking I’ve accumulated 8 agir blueprints from here and there despite having her at d30, save them or spend them?

[viscid swift]

I'd just save them for her FS whenever that is unless you really really need prototype cores

[wispy pendant]

just use gear guides

[half plover]

OPSI fleet update advice

[keen sable]

you should be concerned about gear before then

[fervent hearth]

does anyone know the % chance of HOUSTIN dropping from 15 - 4?

[viscid swift]

no

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /droprate

[fervent hearth]

ligma

[fervent hearth]

i thank you comrade

[viscid swift]

well, no one who's gonna be talking anyway

[wispy pendant]

wait till he finds out we don't know

[keen sable]

it's fairly irrelevant. 50/50. you get her or you don't. if you don't then repeat. This isn't some abusive gatcha that requires farming rare things while risking losing the very rare thing you are trying to farm.

[eternal basalt]

Do those exist... except that JP Azur Lane type game

[forest palm]

when the data collection required to estimate rates is ridiculous, and no one wants to do it

one could surmise that unique campaign/event ships' drop rate is similar to Akagi, and Kaga, but meh

[calm ledge]

if i get a UR dupe, am i making a mistake if i decide to use her to LB herself

[viscid swift]

no, that's what you should do

[wispy pendant]

No, use the dupe for limit breaking, it saves a bulin

Only real reason to keep dupes is for fleet power farming and for displaying multiple skins at a time, both are useless for game progress

[strange sphinx]

Unless you have an abundance of Ur bulin

[loud rover]

This good for h12-1?

[forest palm]

Ulrich mob is a disaster, so no

[loud rover]

oh right, i should switch fdg and uvh

[raven kindle]

Can you go over 999 crystal fragments in the meta supply shop

[forest palm]

Ulrich shouldn't be flag

[strange sphinx]

[wispy pendant]

UVH flag also ?
Not much AA in your boss fleet,
Sandy more tanky than Shima

If you have NJ, she has good AA, better than UvH and FdG for this mode

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm does Fdg need Iron blood Main fleet Exp?

arg

[viscid swift]

Shimakaze and Kawakaze get swapped, Guam and Agir as well for safe measure

[loud rover]

i have a lb1 nj :>

[strange sphinx]

Don't have an abundance of Iron blood Main fleet

[loud rover]

scharn and gneis from d4 chessboard or you can get scharn from core data iirc, but might as well do chessboard

[strange sphinx]

my H12-1 team, Don't mind the Stats cause I stole the mob fleet equipment again

They can survive 12-4 Safe mode.. right if I level them up

[cobalt rapids]

Anything can survive 12-4 safe with proper lvls and gear

[strange sphinx]

Idk if I upgrade and MLB those Main fleet is enough to get Points so I can research Fdg

[cobalt rapids]

Check pts on wiki and calc

But i wouldnt throw so many gold burins

[strange sphinx]

well 630 is all I need and iirc gold give 70 points right?

[cobalt rapids]

Depends on ship

[strange sphinx]

I juat got Plymouth earlier

[soft raft]

it's dependent on both rarity and hulltype

[undone plover]

if u have the gold bulins MLB bisko u can use thuringen and Jade for the other 2, jade gives CVL RLD which is but better than nothing. Ig u can also do seidlitz but that is more gold bulins and also triple BB is harder to level in 12

although how do u have musashi, yorkii, implacable and still no FdG

[wispy pendant]

what is the recommended witchita fleet now?

[cobalt rapids]

Kear yorkii + stuff

[wispy pendant]

k, i'll try it out

[stark quiver]

For these furnitures, do I need to spend both decor coins and gems at the same time for one, or is it an option

[wispy pendant]

it's an option, do not use gems unless you like buying more and want to support the devs

[undone plover]

although it is probably better to save for the event furniture unless u dont care

[stark quiver]

i always have enough for event furni, i just buy the sets that are exclusive to that

[strange sphinx]

Simple my friend, Laziness

like 1 year Hiatus

Technically, I didn't even bother research for like 2 years

[forest palm]

[mellow hornet]

Is the only way to grind sub torps from the daily?

[wispy pendant]

is witchita meta as a ship good?

[slender heart]

Current event d3 got g7e

[wispy pendant]

if you're asking about bidders, yes

[mellow hornet]

Worth the grind if i have none?

[slender heart]

Take it as a by product, cause you're farming d3 anyway

[mellow hornet]

Is the drop guaranteed for the gold torp or what are the chances?

[slender heart]

Rng, don't know the chances

[keen comet]

I have one question: Is this Rerun Event worth it?

[soft raft]

realistically they're all tech fodder

[forest palm]

mm, there's certainly things that are in the event shop that are worth it, and it is German tech, so it's helpful for getting to ships like Agir, or FdG

[keen comet]

Noted

[polar raft]

Where can I get more of these?

[forest palm]

PR4 research

[soft raft]

Pr4 researches

[polar raft]

Thx👍

[soft raft]

Specifically Q and G researches

[wispy pendant]

if you already have two tenrais, you can just buy the remaining prints with core from the core shop... but if you still have more research to do in PR4, just wait there, you'll get bps along the way

[polar raft]

This?

[wispy pendant]

yes, that can be made into the right bps

[polar raft]

Kk thx

[hollow gust]

getting those is such a scam

[wispy pendant]

what do you use core on after you're done with the UR prints?

[hollow gust]

anything but agir guns

[stark quiver]

champy guns, sexys, anything but agir guns and other trash

[wispy pendant]

i mean, I have enough agir prints to make 6 guns from grinding for tenrais... but they asked for more agir prints

[polar raft]

I have 5 ur bulins, I don’t need these ships for my current fleets rn, but which is the strongest?

[wispy pendant]

finish your BBs

[hollow gust]

just finish the bbs you started, then shinano then guam

[polar raft]

Alright thx guys

[stark quiver]

dont partially limit break ships

[polar raft]

Some are partially done cuz I had additionals

[queen plank]

So you go all in, dont stop until their eyes roll back and have a ahogo?

[hollow gust]

[queen plank]

Oh crap, now I realize were I am ... oops ...

But yes, I also have several ships stuck on several stages of limit break because Gold Builins arent that common and lower rarity ships are not really worth doing it most of the time? purples is one thing but blues? I just dont see the point

[tame jungle]

most blue ships not worth even using

[sharp socket]

max limit break gives best results

[queen plank]

UR often is because I am waiting for the U bulins or I am just out of coins

[sharp socket]

dont spread the bulins, max limit break one at a time

[stark quiver]

you just limit break purples and blues with dupes

[sharp socket]

purples can be good, blues rarely and just for tech and memento

[queen plank]

And yes, full limit break is the best but for example, I dont have many of the DOA collab limit broke because I had run out of Gold Bullins and already had better ships

[sharp socket]

memento is great because you get niche auxes and gems

[queen plank]

I am going over my blues but I keep about 8 purple bullins in case a event banner drops

I dont have many left but still enough

Also yes, do memento since gems and you also unlock new ships that way, Ayanami for example

[dense finch]

As a new player, which season in the research academy should I focus on? I notice that PR2 has a really strong ship (friedrick der grosse), but I have heard someone saying that i should focus on PR5 because it gives more stuff

[stark quiver]

pr2 first for fdg

[warm flax]

You don't focus on pr2 because fdg can be upgraded with coins

[sharp socket]

research focus pr4 with anchorage catchup

you stay on pr4 for a long time

[slender heart]

Do 4

[keen sable]

develop is not focus

[stark quiver]

u right, alright so get fdg, work on pr4 and get anchorage, agir, hakuryu, and then 2 tenrais

and august von perseval since shes gonna replace implacable

[dense finch]

Should I fully develop Roon in PR1?

[sharp socket]

develop roon in pr1 for the research mission, that one will repeat twice, then build fdg in pr2, by then you might have enough tech for anchorage to dev her

[keen sable]

if you can and don't mind -1 permanent dock space, sure go for it

[queen plank]

Yes, I would perhaps switch to PR5 since Plymouth is pretty good and Brest works quite well if you have Alsace to trigger the Iris Vanguard requirement

[sharp socket]

remember to change catchup to agir then haku after anchorage catchup is done

[dense finch]

I missed the two UR units, so I don't have Alsace

[queen plank]

That sad, Alsace is a great ship and I mentioned that because Iris Vanguard is a bit ... all over the place and Brest is solid

[keen sable]

that's silly. alsace and brest are just plain good. one does not make the other good.

[elfin hollow]

Which research season gives the best gear overall? I already got enough bp for everyone.

[stark quiver]

what do you need and dont have?

[dense finch]

yes, I am also sad, but what can I do I just started playing last week

[sharp socket]

pr4 has good stuff in it

[patent pivot]

issue with running brest is it means you arent running agir which is a massive hit to your dmg, if you run any french vg its either jdarc for survival or mog for dmg and cope the uptime is better than hinde (still under testing)

[queen plank]

I mentioned that since Divine Sanction requires either secondary hits from Alsace or hits from a Iris Vanguard, those are the trigger requirements

[sharp socket]

noel you dont need to worry about this right now

[dense finch]

I know it doesn't help but I have luckily obtained shinano (2 dupls)

[patent pivot]

in reality you just ignore the buffed version of the skill, its actually more reliable in situations with nonbuffed version since the aiming doesnt get fucked up

[sharp socket]

just do pr4 research focus anchorage

[stark quiver]

were you pulling on perma pool?

[queen plank]

I am already on my 2nd UR Pity from build, ranks up fast

[dense finch]

yeah, when I started. Now I am saving (120 cubes..)

[half plover]

is richelieu a decent BB to mlb? or is she only used in getting fleet exp

[dense finch]

got it, just switched from brest (57 pieces) to anchorage

[viscid swift]

She's just tech

[stark quiver]

i mean shes good or used to be i forgot for ex stages

[queen plank]

Richie is a good ship but its a faction buffer and thats part of the problem, it buffs Iris Libre and not just Iris

[whole crypt]

it's really just her AB isn't it

[patent pivot]

AB is nice, but also the slow

[queen plank]

At least she isnt Jean Bart

[patent pivot]

physical hitrates are huge

[whole crypt]

is there a boss we're referring to specifically though

[viscid swift]

Does anyone actually bother with Agir's slow for BBs anyway still though

[patent pivot]

yes?

[queen plank]

I use Agir as a tank really

[viscid swift]

When Zwei exists

[whole crypt]

like which boss does agir's slow actually significantly help hit

[patent pivot]

basically any moving boss

[queen plank]

Only reliable dumbagron god of the seas, never let me down outside of all the times she did

[whole crypt]

yeh most of the time you're just using BisZwei

[patent pivot]

faster = more improvement obviously

BiZ hole is short and buffers have to go before BiZ

at the very least alsace gets cucked, maybe soy (under testing)

[keen sable]

she's not ur...

[viscid swift]

Yeah but you need so much reload tech it just

[queen plank]

Plymouth is also a good ship, great in BB compositions and quite tanky due to evasion

[whole crypt]

what timings can you even get Agir up to with a triple mag

[stark quiver]

suppose i have all the UR bbs in game, whats the best current anti heavy and anti light comp

[hollow gust]

Just use Alsace Biszwei Vanguard

[queen plank]

Ah Aegis slow ... honestly because of how many slows Manjuu have thrown I didnt even realized she have one

[sharp socket]

your build order afaik is
set research focus to anchorage, when finished do agir, when finished do haku, when finished stay at pr4
-> develop saint louis and/or roon (starting research)
-> develop anchorage or FdG (whichever comes first in your tech progression)
-> develop the other one
-> develop cheshire for the mission later if you want
-> develop august von parseval
-> develop agir (should have enough prints to dev25 by now)
-> develop haku

[warm flax]

Alsace>Musashi?

[soft raft]

*Saint Louis and/or Roon, not just Saint

[half plover]

ty

[sharp socket]

ah yeah you can change it

[whole crypt]

before Alsace you already removed Musashi for Soyuz if it wasn't heavy

[keen sable]

roon is generally an active detriment to progression requiring you to use shit vanguards

[queen plank]

I will say this, right now I am not sure if going for Izumo is a bad idea after her augment, she seems to be rather capable but truth is, for fleet tech you dont need a PR Sakura ship that such

[viscid swift]

The problem with Izumo is time of acquisitions

[soft raft]

If Hood w/ aug and Nelson retrofit didnt exist, maybe
but it's more convient to go for those two than doing Izumo

[viscid swift]

By the time you do it she'll probably have been replaced

[patent pivot]

found my testing for brest vs gayir, brest was roughly 5% worse than gayir comp of same guns on ScharM

[whole crypt]

I'd say Izumo is an option if you want to buy the PR1 voucher, but if development wise by the time you have her in working condition you'd be looking at better options to replace her

[queen plank]

PR1 so coins, I recently just build all PR1-3 ships I had left and been focusing on Izumo

[viscid swift]

Weren't those with like 0 reload tech? And double shells on the BBs

[patent pivot]

wut?

[viscid swift]

What were the parameters of the BBs basically

[patent pivot]

that was 0fp tech to not kill boss to get better numbers

0fp for all, all +13 gear, no oath, scharM

flangun als, soygun biz, champgun soy (so newer comps will be hurt more by lack of gayir since soy wont get biz hole)

[stark quiver]

why no 457

[patent pivot]

?

[queen plank]

The issue I see with Izumo is you dont really need that much Fleet Tech since there are a lot of Sakura ships and not really that many Sakura ships in PR even if, granted, I like Azuma (except she keeps sinking but at least she aint Drake) and Hakk is one of the best carriers in the game but Izumo been a skip until her augment come, she might be a lot better and honestly Sakura battleships avaible arent that great, limited yes but Musashi aint permanent yet.

[viscid swift]

You do need PR ships for Sakura without event ships

Trying to rush Haku without it is frankly ridiculous

[soft raft]

And outside the scope of faction fleeting bs, there's more acessible BBs that are about as good as if not better than her for relatively less time needed to invest

[queen plank]

It really been a while so I dont recall how hard it was, I do recall when I started Aegir I could already do Hakk but IB Fleet Tech is a hell lot harder to get

[viscid swift]

That's just blatantly false

[queen plank]

That was my personal experience

[soft raft]

Divergent chessboard
IB ships give double the usual tech points

[viscid swift]

Iron Blood tech is a lot easier to get because it's much more concentrated and individual ships give more

[keen sable]

hell of a lot cheaper too

[whole crypt]

not to mention the bump you get from Bismarck and Tirpitz in medal

[queen plank]

Oh I grinded Divergent chessboard for drops, I grinded it a lot

[viscid swift]

Like seriously

It's absolutely ridiculous

[whole crypt]

and the SR subs in shops now

[queen plank]

When I started Bismarck wasnt there and it was before you could pick them, Tirpitz shown about the same time the change happened and by the time I got her, didnt need her

[whole crypt]

game's changed since, now KMS PR/DR is significantly less painful to unlock

[viscid swift]

Bismarck and tirpitz are just icing

[whole crypt]

IJN is scattered all over the place with event ships that are now perm pool or the odd campaign drops

plus less tech per ship

[viscid swift]

It was pretty trivial even before Bismarck got added and Tirpitz was just nice to have

[stark quiver]

was the ninja event the last sp event

[queen plank]

Ninja? you mean the collab one?

[hollow gust]

Most people in lil e only needed tirpiz

[stark quiver]

yea

[viscid swift]

Last proper SP event would have been Operation Convergence in 2022

[stark quiver]

whats proper sp?

[whole crypt]

collabs might be slightly different in format

[viscid swift]

Collabs kind of have their own unique event format where they combine the larger pool of a larger event but use the SP style event format

[stark quiver]

i see

[queen plank]

Collab format is "normal" event most of the time, they tend to be easier however

[whole crypt]

there's the extra "SP" stages that non-collab events don't have

also different reward formats

[queen plank]

They been messing with then, Alsace have those "extra" boss fights that arent usual ... I do think the Ninja Collab had those as well

[viscid swift]

I just call them medium events

They create so many new formats its bloody annoying to keep track of

[soft raft]

The EX stage is completly normal wdym

[queen plank]

And then we have the format they used on Shinano event that was "wait, were is the stage I have to farm again"

[viscid swift]

That was normal

The event stage naming was funky but that was it

[keen sable]

it's just fluff. they have store, milestones, and no bonuses

[viscid swift]

Grinding Sp5 is a lot easier for new players than D3 of an event though

[queen plank]

I know, it was just not usual the way the map was with A/C and B/D, confused me a bit

[keen sable]

all midis or as you call them mediums are around the same difficulty. L80 farming. L100 daily bonus. Why do you not consider HLH a real event?

[wispy pendant]

hope the new event has a decent map drop gear to grind

[soft raft]

[wispy pendant]

or something good in the shop

Do we have a gold ship on the drop and in the shop, or not on a sp event?

[viscid swift]

HLH?

[stark quiver]

Heart-Linking Harmony, the muse event i think

[viscid swift]

That I just have labeled as a muse event

Kind of similar situation with collab events

[stark quiver]

idek what you guys are talking about

[viscid swift]

Too large of a roster to be considered a SP event but they still use the SP map format

I never said it wasn't a real event

It's just not quite the SP format

Too many ships on the banner and event as a whole

And when I say SP I mean SP events like Virtual Tower and Operation Convergence not the map format itself

[keen sable]

they're all the same effort basically with the same reward

[whole crypt]

eh did Alsace have special bosses

[viscid swift]

I'm aware

[whole crypt]

EX is normal for any map event though

[keen sable]

something something alt ex

i couldn't be bothered. got 500 chips. left.

[whole crypt]

you mean using enig d for challenge mode?

last 2-3 EX already used that format

[slender heart]

Senpai, how consistent is your wichitaM fleet so far, with the harbin one? Out of 5

[whole crypt]

2/5, was trying a different comp last night so no new data

[stark quiver]

So this steel has alpha wolf and ib talent does this make her automatically bad I’m running fishpack

[hollow gust]

thats a bad cat even for ironblood

[whole crypt]

honestly at this point any comp that's a consistent 75 is good enough, and anything better than 21.6% is fair game

[slender heart]

Mine's sometimes 3/5, sometimes 2/5, yesterday only once. Pretty shit tldr

[whole crypt]

steel you pretty much just want to start with alpha, flame and rld/officer

[sweet delta]

starting with alpha and flame

[whole crypt]

I actually rolled that on my rally but it was a 3pt cat

[undone plover]

can you even start with a rainbow + alpha + another talent? doesnt the rainbow count as 2?

[sweet delta]

Rainbow counts as whatever slot it replaced, could be 1 or could be 2

[whole crypt]

unique talents can roll into the 2-slot but it doesn't need to be

so if you get u-u-1 it's actually a shit roll

[undone plover]

so the perfect starter is alpha, flame and 2 pts in rld/officer ?

[hollow gust]

i have 3x the number of good runs on ply then harbin

[undone plover]

> >

[whole crypt]

this shit is the game fucking with you

[stark quiver]

i have a good amount of 1 flame cat and thats my damn sub cat

[undone plover]

so rolling flame after 4 pt starter is still perfect cat right? since it counts as 1 point as well?

[whole crypt]

to be fair it's still the second best possible steel you can roll by 30, just missing 1 tier of hit or trp

anecdotally I'd say alpha easier to roll from level up than flame

[undone plover]

how many gold cat boxes do you get per day usually when u start buying? it is 15 boxes max right?

[whole crypt]

like 0.2

[undone plover]

so 1 per 5 days average?

[whole crypt]

more or less didn't keep track

[forest palm]

at least it's something that isn't mandatory, and you can just kind of work on it at your own pace

[keen sable]

1 every 20 builds. easy math...

[undone plover]

oh it is 5%
yeah that makes more sense thanks

still not going to do it

[forest palm]

just be me, and sit on a boat load of sub related cats, and not bother to use them for actual content

anyway, Elite cats are far more painful when you look at it

[undone plover]

tbh I have noticed sub cats usually dont have the crap talents
they feel like the easiest to roll good talents on

[undone plover]

oh? why is that

[forest palm]

they roll 1, or 2 talents at start, you have to hope you get flame, or alpha at some point, it's just shit

[cloud fractal]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the rainbow cores for UR Bulins will reset next week at the same time the weekly missions reset, right? So even though I’m maxed in rainbow cores for the month I should just complete the weekly quests as I finish them.

[soft raft]

in this case since the monthly refresh conincides with the next weekly reset, sure

but it's better to claim all the rewards now and burn the overflow than just letting a week's worth of rewards turn into dust (including the Spec Core so either way it's gonna go burn to a crisp)

[cloud fractal]

Right. But the weekly quests will refresh at the same time, so just burn the extra cores and claim the rest of the weekly rewards if I’m reading your answer correctly.

[soft raft]

yeah just claim it now

[cloud fractal]

Roger. Thank you.

[clever sun]

What can secret ticket do?

[viscid swift]

Unlock secrets

[soft raft]

it's basically ASMR
3 secret tickets per ASMR

[viscid swift]

Basically a 5 minute Asmr

[clever sun]

Is it worth to buy?

[viscid swift]

That's up to you

[remote yarrow]

Like getting the actual tickets with gems? Not worth

[viscid swift]

Same boat as skins

[remote yarrow]

The secrets themselves up to you

[clever sun]

What is ASMR?

[viscid swift]

You can

[remote yarrow]

I was saying they aren't worth buying with gems mb

[soft raft]

yeah was about to say lol

[clever sun]

Thanks

[viscid swift]

Why though

Value wise it's still the same as outright buying one with gems
Just you might save some because you get some for free

[hollow gust]

just buy the mogador asmr for free lmao

[remote yarrow]

I don't think you are understanding my point My point is don't spend gems on the secrets at all, just wait for the 3 free tickets

Maybe I worded it weirdly earlier

[remote yarrow]

Basically it's a soft spoken audio of the ship girl right into your ear

[viscid swift]

Basically imagine everyone talks like Shinano

[remote yarrow]

Some ppl get "tingles" or chills from it but that's another topic

[forest palm]

having to explain asmr is a new one, just look up a cam girl on youtube or twitch

[hushed dawn]

Is it worth using this aux on ships that are not Yat Sen Kai? Even just as a stat stick.

[forest palm]

it's very much worth

use that an a rudder, and that's your standard

[hushed dawn]

Aye.

[plain saffron]

Secret are like skins but sometimes you can get 1 for free by collecting the tickets

Worth or not depends on the person. Like skins

[forest palm]

I'd assume that would be in relation to an F2P player

[plain saffron]

Then same as skins

[forest palm]

they're still not worth if it's F2P gems

[plain saffron]

So same as skins

Is it worth spending gems on skins as f2p. no. same here for secrets

[forest palm]

what are you even trying to argue

[plain saffron]

Saying it's as worth as a skin

Worth buying with gems or not depends of you're f2p or not and you like it or not. Like skins

If you're into that shit free ticket might be not enough to buy all. If you want to buy all

[forest palm]

again I was just saying Smoothie was purely talking about F2P gems, and the relation to cosmetics not being worth the gems for them

[plain saffron]

Yes so like skins

[forest palm]

well that is what a cosmetic is

[plain saffron]

I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just saying it's like skins

[plain saffron]

Also this isn't true for all of them smh my head

[forest palm]

[plain saffron]

Also is there new meta fleet cooked?

[hollow gust]

I still hate the Harbin one

[viscid swift]

I'm going with Kearsarge, Yorktown 2, Implacable, Plymouth, Helena, Sirius

Harbin fleets unless you have literally everything need 3 radar scans to kill

[eternal moth]

This fleet works pretty well for me.

[plain saffron]

Is there full setup

[spring bolt]

2 from CN dalaos

[forest palm]

the mix of fighters is interesting

[north topaz]

What's the best gear setup for Mogador in a Mob fleet?

[spring bolt]

bf109g is just for who doesn't have enough hvars, otherwise 5 hvars is better

[forest palm]

ah, alright makes sense

[remote yarrow]

Quint UR Mag can be replaced for Quad Mag

[hollow gust]

Not best smh

[forest palm]

since they are practically the same I just take UR

[forest palm]

put up, or shut up

like the AA Gun is dependent on the content, but for what it is, this is generally what you'd shove on a gun base DD

[plain saffron]

Time to try later

[hollow gust]

[forest palm]

ah, yes let me recommend an exclusive piece of gear that only appeared twice, and will likely never comeback

[hollow gust]

Any gold hp aux is better

[remote yarrow]

UR HP Aux when

[forest palm]

the only Aux that exceeds 550 HP is VH Plating, so you'd be suggesting to +13 what exactly?

S4G?

[hollow gust]

Any auxes with more or equal hp then a toolbox will be better?

[forest palm]

understand, no aux exceeds 550 HP other than VH Plating, to exceed 550 you'd need to +13 a gold aux

[hollow gust]

Toolkit is 500 and effects doesnt stack, any aux that does more then that would be a better 2nd item . Idk what so hard to understand

[forest palm]

yes, and 50 HP isn't making much of a difference

[silk sphinx]

Towel? Since you’re bring up hp

[hollow gust]

I was teasing that it's technically not the best.

[silk sphinx]

I mean technically also hvar only appeared once

[ember totem]

[forest palm]

that's why I prefer when people ask they just show their depot

[woven socket]

so im currently downloading the game.. anything i should know before playing?

[hollow gust]

read the newbie guide

[forest palm]

your starter doesn't matter, and read this
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[silk sphinx]

Don’t use YouTube, ask in this channel. No point rerolling

[ember totem]

in addition to all of that, game is not pay to win, rather pay to skin so yes you can f2p it

[hollow gust]

man i lost my samheart copy pasta after my custom pinning broke

[remote yarrow]

If you plan on staying F2P don't spend your gems on stuff like Skins,Rings,Cubes,Oil,Coins,packs,etc ask us before since the income is really scarce

[silk sphinx]

Ah, don’t spend gems unless you’re sure you’re doing the right thing

[forest palm]

oh, right cubes aren't front loaded

[ember totem]

yeah no front loaded cubes means this isn't a game you can really reroll on, it's more a patient journey
good thing there's already good stuff in the Guild shop at the start to get some stuff from

[silk sphinx]

Why am I getting the middle finger

[forest palm]

[woven socket]

def staying f2pUNLESSSSS

[eternal moth]

This game doesn't need to front-load cubes because it's fairly generous throughout the game

[forest palm]

I mean the real gimmick, and draw of Azur Lane is the outfits, most packs don't offer any sort of P2W functionality

[sweet delta]

Depends on mob where, just don't copy the in game recommended load outs with beaver+rudder

[woven socket]

whats retrofit mean? referring to the newbie guide

[remote yarrow]

And about cubes don't pull on permanent banners, just wait for event ones, for UR ones go crazy, for SR ones ask before if it's worth dumping everything on them

[atomic abyss]

The in game recommended loadout for mogs is beaver and rudder? Tf

[remote yarrow]

Also raising dupes is not needed nor recommended at all

[forest palm]

basically upgrading the ship

[viscid swift]

As an example

[remote yarrow]

It's an upgrade to the ship itself, more stats, upgraded ability or a new one

• an "upgrade" towards the rarity if you care about that

[atomic abyss]

Simply put
Some ships have this like a retrofit tree
So a retrofit involves rarity, and stat upgrades and for the higher rarity ones, skill upgrades

[remote yarrow]

And sometimes changed Hull type

[keen sable]

to furnish with new or modified parts or equipment not available or considered necessary at the time of manufacture

[remote yarrow]

Dictionary

[sharp socket]

retro gives more stats and rarity upgrade

also sometimes new skill, or upgraded skill

[drowsy gust]

im running out of cog chips, what is the best map to farm cog chips?

[plain saffron]

Sometimes changes what the ship can equips or the number of them

14-1

[viscid swift]

15-1, then 14-1, then 13-1, and after that 12-1

[plain saffron]

14-4 over 14-1?

[viscid swift]

well yes
same drop rates but it costs less in 14-1

[clever sun]

Is it applied with all ship girls just one ticket?

[forest palm]

are you asking how the event tickets function?

[plain saffron]

Full context pls

[clever sun]

I mean secret ticket

[forest palm]

no there's only a select few ships with asmr

[vocal sigil]

now that I explored the whole map, should I burn this on hidden zones?

[remote yarrow]

No, you need 3 tickets for just one secret and there's only a few available

[forest palm]

do your hidden, your abyssal, your strongholds, after that spam C5

[clever sun]

Oh thanks

[vocal sigil]

thanks

[north topaz]

W12 and up

[remote yarrow]

Didn't Taz already sent you this? If you don't have those UR Torpedoes can be replaced for Quad Mags and for AA there's a few options depending on content

[forest palm]

change that AA Gun to a Twin 57

[remote yarrow]

Or roomba or 90mm or w/e you got that isn't trash

[rapid grail]

after u do hidden, abyssals, stronghold. Burn it on c3 (if you want more ap boxes + more akashi for ap and cat nodes in the long run for loot) or c5 (ungabunga, chance for 2 cat nodes)
tbh c3 ~= c5 so its up to preference if you wanna farm more (c3) or just want to burn all the ap u have w/out much akashi (c5)

[smoky palm]

what dev level is it fine to start using Kearsarge?..

[forest palm]

Dev 30

[late pike]

guys, i got level 115 roon muse, but now i got maxed out(in reserch) roon at 105, should i replace or not?

[remote yarrow]

They are really similar tbh but Muse is a bit better so no

[viscid swift]

no

[forest palm]

Roon Muse is generally better than Roon

[late pike]

ok then ig she will do awakend commissions then

[smoky palm]

ooof.. have her at dev level 22 rn.. gonna go back to targeting her prints after I finish up with getting Fate Sim V Prinz Rupp

[remote yarrow]

Why did you skip PR5

[hollow gust]

Plymouth is more useful then that entire season

[late pike]

isnt that fate simulation, which is after dev 30

[smoky palm]

I only started in Jan of this year.. been hopping around the diff PR series because of the recruit missions..

[viscid swift]

some really really questionable decision were made

[viscid swift]

my dude, you know those misssions only require you to unlock a ship right
dev 30/FS5 isn't a requirement at all

[forest palm]

why does it feel like they used their CDP on the ships

[soft raft]

wouldnt be surprised....

[remote yarrow]

Oh god I hope not

[smoky palm]

Yeahh.. but I still need prints to finish up getting Fate Sim V.. them im going back to PR VI as my focus

[viscid swift]

don't skip around like this, it's really really inefficient

[late pike]

how tf are u in pr 6 alredy

[plain saffron]

Do you guys really expect average player to minmax everything especially cdp

[smoky palm]

Ik, but I really like Prinz Rupp and wanna have her 100% done in my book ❤️

[soft raft]

You can waifu later after you got all the good units
Rupper aint going anywhere

[viscid swift]

always finish a season in it's entirety before moving onto the next

[forest palm]

no, I expect them to end up ignoring them, or using them

[plain saffron]

But ruppy is good

[viscid swift]

then why didn't you just do PR5 first

[late pike]

no meta then finish right?

[eager mulch]

what’s going on in gph today?

[forest palm]

chaos

[viscid swift]

what?

[plain saffron]

Finish 1 season at a time
Ideally you research newer season while coins older season

[late pike]

geting ships

[viscid swift]

I don't understand the question at all

[smoky palm]

Yeahh.. ik.. so far the Research ships ive built are Saint Louis, Gascogne, Champagne, Anchorage, Prinz Rupp, and Kearsarge.. just 1 from each series

[late pike]

get the best ships of each season and then later get all the ships we taking about Pr and Dr right?

[plain saffron]

If just build then it's fine. But maxing them, do 1 season at a time

[smoky palm]

Was mainly tryna do 1 ship from each series for the recruit missions so I can get them sweet combat data packs to analyze :d

[soft raft]

FdG > All of PR4 > At least Plymouth (and maybe Brest) from PR5 > Everyone else in terms of overall priority

[plain saffron]

Yeah but don't focus too much that you ignored the good ships

[eager mulch]

[viscid swift]

I'm not saying this to obtuse

I'm saying all of this because I know this is incredibly idiotic and it will cause consequences and setbacks later down the line

trust me when I say this, I know because I experienced these consequences firsthand and paid dearly
you don't need to go through the same thing

[late pike]

yes thats right

[plain saffron]

Also research and collect bp for the ships 1 season at a time

[late pike]

i got fdg now doin pr4

[smoky palm]

which UR gear would you all pick next? currently have enough to buy 29 pieces but once Im in the series 4 for recruit missions I should be getting more combat data to analyze..

[plain saffron]

You can jump around for building
But don't jump around for research

[viscid swift]

2-3 champaign guns first then the Tenrai

[woven socket]

is there a tier list?

[hollow gust]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Guide.jpeg

[smoky palm]

Who should I research next now that ive done 1 ship from each series?.. one that can be upgraded with gold?..

[soft raft]

like a ship tierlist?
Closest thing is this but be sure to read the guidelines (And it only really works for campaign up to W13)
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[candid meteor]

is the pr6 ur gun good because im at 48/50 rn but im working on pr4

[remote yarrow]

Yes but don't consider it the bible, use it as a general understanding of how strong a ship is
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[soft raft]

Follow this
#gameplay-help message

[soft raft]

Best anti-medium CA gun
Fairly low prio if you're not done with PR4 yet

[late pike]

i didnt get emden im sad

[soft raft]

🆗

[plain saffron]

There's still time

[candid meteor]

u have 2 more days

[viscid swift]

you still have some more build tickets

[late pike]

i do

[plain saffron]

If you really like her just go use your cubes

[late pike]

i did like 120 cubes

[plain saffron]

Go more

[viscid swift]

I would just stop at that point

[candid meteor]

rip

[remote yarrow]

Please don't overspend

[late pike]

me rn

my brain think is it wise to do more or just stop

[smoky palm]

I got her one my 3rd day of doing 3 pulls each day.. gonna keep saving my cubes and get what I get.. have 486 cubes rn

[late pike]

i got everyone else

[late pike]

bruh enough flex

[plain saffron]

If you're fine with getting her later, stop
If you really really really want her. Go for more

[viscid swift]

like my entire strategy during my first few events was do 3 builds a day then 2 more 10 pulls max on the final day

if I didn't get everyone after that I asked how bad did I really want them and stop there

[late pike]

and atleast 2 copys too

[plain saffron]

I know people would probably disagree.
But if you didn't get stuff that makes you play the game why even play the game

[late pike]

FDG

[remote yarrow]

Casually "flexing" for no reason

[viscid swift]

she will be made permanent in due time and there's a lot more events coming

[smoky palm]

didnt get any of the elites tho somehow

[viscid swift]

pace yourself is what I'm saying

[smoky palm]

shes the only banner ship ive gotten

[viscid swift]

is it flex time

[late pike]

truee i think ill just stop

[plain saffron]

And in due time is few years

[late pike]

need to save up for next Ur

[viscid swift]

100% takes 2-3 years anyway

[plain saffron]

About to flex my 100% lv125 ships

[viscid swift]

just Saratoga isn't a flex

[smoky palm]

how often do even come out like the Chinese New Year one where you can grind XP for subs easier?.. didnt have my current sub fleet back to grind XP for them

but dont really wanna use XP books to raise them past 110 which is what each are at rn..

[fresh tangle]

Do KMS or SMS ships give more fleet tech for IB when MLBing? Got 12 elite bulins to use and want to make sure I’m getting the most out of them

[viscid swift]

it's not really a conistent thing, at least once every Lunar New Year and on average twice a year

when that 2nd one is uh 🔮

[sweet delta]

Subs are the least oil efficient ships to grind with, using exp packs is a good idea after affinity is covered

[viscid swift]

I reccomend checking the wiki

[smoky palm]

ahh, think there'll be another one sometime in the next month or two? since the last one was CNY..

[viscid swift]

aside from the split starting with Rondo it does still depoend on which ship

[viscid swift]

it's consistent as I said

event schedules from 2022 and 2023 for refference

[smoky palm]

what colors are the ones im supposed to notice? green?

[viscid swift]

and 2024 thus far

[viscid swift]

I specifically categorized raid events as "Raid"....

[smoky palm]

ahh, raid ones are the ones where you can grind sub xp then

[late pike]

wait so in calculatin, next Ur is in 3 more weeks

[viscid swift]

what no

[smoky palm]

is that a public google doc or something btw?..

[viscid swift]

it's my own google doc

[late pike]

then?

[remote yarrow]

Cheeky's docs are paid

[soft raft]

Next new one is in sept
we Might get a UR rerun next month but no concrete info

[late pike]

ohh wait mb mb

[viscid swift]

I created it after being thoroughly disgusted at how poorly the wiki's table was laid out

[smoky palm]

ooo its well done! got a sharable link? or just for urself?..

[late pike]

ahh kk

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_-cF_Oin9VyOcVYJmbfjaJRL9bu6f39n-mlZMuoJZIs/edit?usp=sharing

[forest palm]

Cheeky you think this SP'll run into PR7?

[viscid swift]

no, it'll end just before

July 11th is when I anticipate PR7 to drop

[late pike]

whose rerun tho?

[viscid swift]

Vanguard